Latest / The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast / Mini In Depth: Hannah Brown
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- 0:00Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
- 0:03Speaker 1: with I R Radio. What's up bats Nation. I know
- 0:08Speaker 1: what you're thinking, this is in Ben's voice, and you're
- 0:11Speaker 1: also thinking this is in Ashley's voice or if it is,
- 0:15Speaker 1: man pregnancy is really taking a hard left turn for
- 0:18Speaker 1: her vocal cords. Nope, this is your favorite friendly bartender
- 0:23Speaker 1: slash master of ceremonies. Wells Adams, I'm filling in because
- 0:28Speaker 1: guess what you know. Ben's in the Islands with his
- 0:33Speaker 1: brand new bride, Jess, and they are doing sexy stuff
- 0:39Speaker 1: down there, which means he can't host his own podcast.
- 0:42Speaker 1: And Ashley is I assume about ready to pop. I
- 0:46Speaker 1: don't know how these things work, but I do know
- 0:49Speaker 1: that she is carrying a bib, which means, um, I
- 0:53Speaker 1: don't think she can do the podcast today. So yeah,
- 0:56Speaker 1: you get me. Sorry, but that's how it goes. Anyways.
- 1:00Speaker 1: I'm excited to do this show, not because I don't
- 1:04Speaker 1: love coming on the Almost Famous podcasts and chit chatting
- 1:07Speaker 1: with all of you, but because of the guests that
- 1:10Speaker 1: we are going to have today. Hannaby Hannah Brown. She's
- 1:13Speaker 1: got a new book out called God Bless This Mess,
- 1:16Speaker 1: and uh well, she has dropped a lot of Hannah bombs,
- 1:19Speaker 1: to be fair, lots of them. We found out just
- 1:23Speaker 1: a couple of days ago Visa VI every tabloid magazine
- 1:27Speaker 1: that apparently she was hooking up with Peter after a
- 1:31Speaker 1: season while he was still with I don't know whoever
- 1:34Speaker 1: he picked at the end of that thing. Not sure
- 1:36Speaker 1: we're gonna get to the bottom of that. We also
- 1:38Speaker 1: learned more about her relationship with Tyler Cameron. What really
- 1:41Speaker 1: went down during that quarantine crew situation down in Florida.
- 1:47Speaker 1: Were they going to Pound Town during that time? Were
- 1:49Speaker 1: they not? I don't know, but we're gonna get the answers.
- 1:52Speaker 1: So Yeah, decided to talk to Hannah By about her
- 1:55Speaker 1: new book. God bless this mess. So just trying to
- 1:58Speaker 1: do a mental tally in my head. Hannah Be's got
- 2:01Speaker 1: a book out, Ben's got a book out called Alone
- 2:05Speaker 1: in Plain Site. I believe Ashley and Jared have a
- 2:08Speaker 1: children's book out. I believe Peter has a book out.
- 2:11Speaker 1: I believe um Mike Johnson has a book out, which
- 2:15Speaker 1: begs the question were you ever really on the Bachelor
- 2:18Speaker 1: of the bat Serette if you haven't published a book?
- 2:21Speaker 1: Also begs the question, who's writing this stuff? Well, I
- 2:25Speaker 1: guess you guys are, but we're gonna give you the
- 2:27Speaker 1: cliff notes. Today, in other Bachelor news, I saw that
- 2:30Speaker 1: Katie is no longer with Blake shockingly enough, but she's
- 2:34Speaker 1: now with that guy John, which she kicked off the show.
- 2:37Speaker 1: I guess way to go. Also saw that Tasia is
- 2:40Speaker 1: no longer with Zach Claire of course, no longer with
- 2:43Speaker 1: Dale Colton. I guess he's got a Netflix show coming out.
- 2:47Speaker 1: Matt and Rachel are still together, which that one's actually
- 2:49Speaker 1: a shocker. I would just like to say that the
- 2:52Speaker 1: b I p relationships, the show that I work on,
- 2:56Speaker 1: the show that let's be fair, that I host uh
- 2:59Speaker 1: doing well. Dean and Kaylan strong, Hannah, Dylan strong, Joan
- 3:02Speaker 1: Serena strong, Ashley and Jared this is strong. Having a kid.
- 3:07Speaker 1: Tanner and Jade this is strong. Rusta and Riley strong.
- 3:11Speaker 1: I think Noan Abigail are back together, Mary and Kenny strong,
- 3:15Speaker 1: Becca and Thomas they broke up. They're going strong. Listen.
- 3:19Speaker 1: I'm not saying that I'm the reason why it's successful.
- 3:22Speaker 1: I'm just saying that the show that I work on
- 3:25Speaker 1: is killing its Also, my dogs are barking in the
- 3:29Speaker 1: background because they agree with me that b I P
- 3:34Speaker 1: Is the place to go to find love. All right,
- 3:37Speaker 1: off the soapbox, down to the interview. Let's get Hannah
- 3:41Speaker 1: by Online Hannah by Hannah Brown. What's up, dude, Hey,
- 3:57Speaker 1: nothing much, just uh moaning a book. I had a
- 4:01Speaker 1: book come out. I know, should I write a book?
- 4:05Speaker 1: I feel like I'm the only person from the Bachelor
- 4:06Speaker 1: world that has written a book. I mean, why not?
- 4:10Speaker 1: What would mind be about? You? Think? Um? I felt
- 4:15Speaker 1: you have a lot of stories to tell being a
- 4:17Speaker 1: bartender on Bachelor in Paradise. Yes, but I am still
- 4:21Speaker 1: under contract. There is an NDA hanging over my head,
- 4:24Speaker 1: which I assume, Uh, you are free and clear of
- 4:27Speaker 1: hence why this beautiful publication has reached the bookshelves. Well,
- 4:31Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm even free. I think that
- 4:34Speaker 1: it lasts forever, um parts of it, so uh, you know,
- 4:38Speaker 1: I had to make sure everything was was okay. Um,
- 4:43Speaker 1: But yeah, I think we're always under when I'm pretty sure. Yeah,
- 4:48Speaker 1: you never you never get away from it. I gotta say,
- 4:52Speaker 1: you dropped some freaking bombs in this book. I haven't
- 4:56Speaker 1: read it because I believe it's out like today today. U. Um,
- 5:00Speaker 1: but I'm excited to talk to you and go through
- 5:03Speaker 1: kind of all the the stuff that you that you
- 5:08Speaker 1: revealed in it. Um. I will say, I think the
- 5:11Speaker 1: last time I saw you, it was back when we
- 5:14Speaker 1: were able to go to parties and experience the world.
- 5:18Speaker 1: And was it the Was it the Emmy's Yeah, I
- 5:23Speaker 1: think so, yeah, the Emmys it was? Was it the
- 5:26Speaker 1: Golden Globes? Yeah, one of those. Um. Yeah. I feel like,
- 5:33Speaker 1: you know, I had a really weird like I was
- 5:38Speaker 1: a bachelorrette at a really weird time because I went
- 5:41Speaker 1: straight from being on the Bachelorette to like being on
- 5:45Speaker 1: Dancing with Stars and then like I just started to
- 5:47Speaker 1: be able to hang out with people and then like
- 5:49Speaker 1: a pandemic happened. Yeah, so um, and then you know,
- 5:54Speaker 1: had like my own mental breakdowns and stuff. So uh yeah,
- 5:58Speaker 1: I haven't really seen many pool from the franchise since
- 6:01Speaker 1: since then. Okay, well I gotta ask because you, um,
- 6:08Speaker 1: you unleash a lot of I get. I don't know
- 6:10Speaker 1: if it's dirt, but information in this book. Have you
- 6:13Speaker 1: talked to like so I know that like Peter's in
- 6:15Speaker 1: the crosshairs, Tyler gets a lot of love. By the way,
- 6:18Speaker 1: am I in this fucking book? Am I? Do I
- 6:21Speaker 1: have a chapter or something that I don't know about? Um,
- 6:24Speaker 1: you did not make the final Edits okay, good news
- 6:28Speaker 1: for me. I'm just waiting for like the Daily Mail
- 6:31Speaker 1: to let me know that I've done something wrong. So
- 6:33Speaker 1: my first question is this, like, do you give those
- 6:36Speaker 1: people that are in your book the heads up that
- 6:38Speaker 1: you're having a book? Uh that's coming out that has
- 6:42Speaker 1: information about their lives? Um? Yes, and I mean like
- 6:48Speaker 1: Tyler knew because we were kind of writing books at
- 6:51Speaker 1: the same time. Uh. But no, I didn't like give
- 6:56Speaker 1: them the heads up because I really try had to
- 7:00Speaker 1: make sure. Yes, there was things about our personal lives
- 7:03Speaker 1: in there, but we also have shared our personal lives
- 7:06Speaker 1: on camera, and UM, I felt like it was really
- 7:12Speaker 1: important for me to share my honest, true story and
- 7:16Speaker 1: and everything that I put in there. I wouldn't say
- 7:18Speaker 1: it was dirt because I wasn't trying to be like
- 7:23Speaker 1: mean spirited or put blame on anybody for any experience
- 7:27Speaker 1: because I really tried to, um have awareness for how
- 7:33Speaker 1: I played a part and everything too. So UM, even
- 7:37Speaker 1: though yes, there were things that I revealed that people
- 7:39Speaker 1: didn't know. It wasn't in a malicious way or to
- 7:43Speaker 1: like put people under attack. It was just like it
- 7:46Speaker 1: was things that affected me and had last lasting impacts
- 7:50Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people connect with and so, um,
- 7:55Speaker 1: yeah people. I didn't like let everyone know what was
- 7:58Speaker 1: going to be in the book because as I didn't
- 8:00Speaker 1: really let people read the book before, not even my parents.
- 8:04Speaker 1: So everybody is just having all these surprises. Have your
- 8:10Speaker 1: folks read it now? Have my parents read it now? No? They,
- 8:15Speaker 1: I mean they get their books today. My dad was
- 8:17Speaker 1: so sweet he bought he bought a few books for
- 8:20Speaker 1: me to sign when I get back home. But they
- 8:23Speaker 1: do know what's in there, like they haven't read it,
- 8:25Speaker 1: but like I was very honest that I was going
- 8:28Speaker 1: to be honest about the things that affected me from
- 8:32Speaker 1: my childhood and forward. And they're aware that our family
- 8:36Speaker 1: has gone through a lot of challenges but also we've
- 8:39Speaker 1: grown through that. Um. And my parents were like, look
- 8:45Speaker 1: like write your story, we support you, we love you,
- 8:48Speaker 1: and kind of just gave me free range. The books
- 8:52Speaker 1: called God Bless this mess, Learning to Live and Love
- 8:55Speaker 1: through life's best and then in parentheses worst moments, Um,
- 8:59Speaker 1: I hate do this but I gotta ask the questions
- 9:03Speaker 1: about the specifics of the book. I think the one
- 9:06Speaker 1: that that this audience cares about, which is your relationship
- 9:12Speaker 1: with Peter. And so I guess I'm fuzzy on this.
- 9:15Speaker 1: I've read the headlines, but your relationship with Peter. I
- 9:18Speaker 1: guess after he finished um filming Bachelor, you guys had
- 9:25Speaker 1: a hook up session, but he was still kind of
- 9:29Speaker 1: with Madison or Hannah. I don't know who he was with,
- 9:34Speaker 1: but um, so what happened. So the last time I
- 9:39Speaker 1: saw Peter was him you know, I was on Lazy
- 9:42Speaker 1: with Stars. He was a Bachelor. I went on the show.
- 9:45Speaker 1: Last time I saw him, he said he would lead
- 9:48Speaker 1: the show to be with me. And that was really
- 9:53Speaker 1: hard because I felt like I had just gone through
- 9:56Speaker 1: like two pretty major blows to my heart, my ego,
- 10:00Speaker 1: everything with thinking that two guys who told me that
- 10:03Speaker 1: they loved me want to be with me. Um, it
- 10:06Speaker 1: didn't work out, And I think at that point, I'm like,
- 10:11Speaker 1: oh my gosh, the only guy who actually loved me
- 10:14Speaker 1: cared about me isn't out the Bachelor. And now they're
- 10:17Speaker 1: I'm being now I have to go on this show again,
- 10:20Speaker 1: and I'm like a mess. And I think a lot
- 10:24Speaker 1: of emotions just came from me, just not like just
- 10:27Speaker 1: being like it was this even real, Like how have
- 10:30Speaker 1: I let this affect me so much? And now I
- 10:33Speaker 1: do not want to be back in this setting. And
- 10:35Speaker 1: so the last time everybody sees me together with Peter,
- 10:38Speaker 1: but also just for myself before um, everything that happened
- 10:43Speaker 1: after the show, Uh, I was left with I told him, like,
- 10:49Speaker 1: you know, I'm not gonna be dating anybody if it
- 10:51Speaker 1: doesn't work out for you, like I'd love to go
- 10:53Speaker 1: on a date. Well, of course, like we know, he
- 10:57Speaker 1: ends up getting engaged on the show, and um, I
- 11:02Speaker 1: was happy for him and like, but I think there
- 11:04Speaker 1: was still like this weird like that's the last time
- 11:06Speaker 1: I talked to him, was you wanted me to say
- 11:10Speaker 1: I could be with him? So I was really confused.
- 11:13Speaker 1: So we had I think there was talks of us
- 11:17Speaker 1: having a conversation on camera after the fact, because it
- 11:22Speaker 1: was left so unsettled, and I'm like, I'm not doing that,
- 11:24Speaker 1: Like I don't think either, I'm not doing that. So
- 11:29Speaker 1: I think I messaged him was like I think we
- 11:33Speaker 1: were both getting contacted about should we somehow have some
- 11:36Speaker 1: type of resolve. So we just got on the phone
- 11:39Speaker 1: and talked to each other, and um, it was really
- 11:43Speaker 1: good to catch up and I think it allowed us
- 11:46Speaker 1: like there's only a few people that can understand what
- 11:48Speaker 1: it's like to be a lead of that show. It's
- 11:51Speaker 1: it's really hard, and I mean being a part of
- 11:57Speaker 1: the show. I think it's just hard in general. But
- 12:00Speaker 1: that world One really connected us, and I think he
- 12:03Speaker 1: looked at me as somebody that he could talk to
- 12:06Speaker 1: when it was filming, So we kind of like stayed
- 12:08Speaker 1: in touch a little, but nothing like crossing the line
- 12:12Speaker 1: at all. It was just like supporting him talking through
- 12:17Speaker 1: especially like the first two episodes I was in and
- 12:21Speaker 1: knowing he was with somebody, like it was all just
- 12:25Speaker 1: kind of it was weird, and I didn't really I
- 12:29Speaker 1: wasn't really happy about being a part of all that
- 12:31Speaker 1: because I knew I was really emotional. So anyway, how
- 12:35Speaker 1: all that Hannah Godwin and Dylan's party engagement party is
- 12:41Speaker 1: um where we saw each other for the first time,
- 12:45Speaker 1: and it was weird because like Jed was there with
- 12:47Speaker 1: his girl, like his new girlfriend Peter was there. At
- 12:50Speaker 1: one point, they like preparing me that Tyler was going
- 12:52Speaker 1: to be there, and I'm like, oh gosh, this is
- 12:56Speaker 1: going to be interesting because I haven't seen anybody. And
- 12:59Speaker 1: then all the rest of my ex boyfriends were there too,
- 13:02Speaker 1: so it was like I was really nervous going in there. Um.
- 13:07Speaker 1: But Peter was like, I have so much to tell you,
- 13:10Speaker 1: like when we said hello, and I was like what
- 13:12Speaker 1: does that mean? Like he was like, oh, I just
- 13:14Speaker 1: have so much telling you and I was like, well,
- 13:15Speaker 1: let's talk. Well, the producers were there at the show,
- 13:19Speaker 1: I mean at the party, and like kept keeping us
- 13:22Speaker 1: away from each other, and so I was like I
- 13:25Speaker 1: want to know, like what what are you talking about?
- 13:27Speaker 1: So you like texted me afterwards and it was like
- 13:30Speaker 1: come outside, and so we sat we actually like sat
- 13:33Speaker 1: in a driveway for a little bit and like around
- 13:36Speaker 1: the corner and just talked. And it got late and
- 13:39Speaker 1: he like driving me home. We kept talking and it
- 13:42Speaker 1: was all just about the experience and then yeah, I
- 13:47Speaker 1: he was like, well I have a flight in the morning,
- 13:49Speaker 1: Like you want to keep talking and we'll go to
- 13:51Speaker 1: Wooden Hills and I was like sure. It was like
- 13:53Speaker 1: and I'll drive you back, like let's just and I'm
- 13:55Speaker 1: like okay, like sure, like truly not thinking anything more
- 14:00Speaker 1: than we're just like catching up and that's what it
- 14:03Speaker 1: felt like. That's what it felt like. And then um, yeah,
- 14:09Speaker 1: I get there, like he texted me. I mean, he
- 14:11Speaker 1: like tells me in the car as mom texted him,
- 14:13Speaker 1: and he's like, my mom's still up. She would love
- 14:15Speaker 1: to talk to you. Okay. I end up like being
- 14:21Speaker 1: in their living room with barbed for like two and
- 14:24Speaker 1: a half hours. Peter goes upstairs and leaves me down there,
- 14:29Speaker 1: and I'm like what do I do at this point?
- 14:31Speaker 1: Like now I'm like here, Like what do I do?
- 14:34Speaker 1: Like I don't have a ride home, Like it's like
- 14:38Speaker 1: some ungodly hour and yeah, Like then I she was like,
- 14:47Speaker 1: well you want to just stay here? I can like
- 14:49Speaker 1: make you a bed, and I'm like he's like you
- 14:51Speaker 1: like Peter's already in bed at States like by the way,
- 14:54Speaker 1: By the way, Barbara is the best wingman I've ever
- 14:59Speaker 1: heard of in my entire life. She is always trying
- 15:03Speaker 1: to get her son whatever continue on. I know. So
- 15:08Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, whatever, and like she's always been kind
- 15:11Speaker 1: to me, but she was not having Madison. Um Hannah
- 15:15Speaker 1: Ann and Peter had already been broken up like he
- 15:20Speaker 1: had already ended the engagement. So that's what he was
- 15:22Speaker 1: telling me all about like how all that happened, blah
- 15:24Speaker 1: blah blah everything, and then the whole like Madison thing
- 15:28Speaker 1: was going on, and at that point he was like,
- 15:30Speaker 1: I think it's just like over, like I'm just gonna
- 15:33Speaker 1: focus on like and I'm like, okay, whatever. They weren't talking. Well,
- 15:39Speaker 1: I am not in the best emotional place myself, Like
- 15:41Speaker 1: I will be completely honest, it was you know, I've
- 15:45Speaker 1: worked a lot this past year and a half to
- 15:48Speaker 1: like really and like hell from all that. And so
- 15:56Speaker 1: I went to his brother's room and then Peter texted
- 15:59Speaker 1: me and was like, come cuddle, and I was. I
- 16:03Speaker 1: remember like sitting there like yeah, I don't know, there's
- 16:07Speaker 1: obvious there was still like some like chemistry, and I'm like,
- 16:12Speaker 1: you know, at this point, I'm like, none of these
- 16:14Speaker 1: guys loved me and I want I wanted that so
- 16:16Speaker 1: bad and I think because of that, I made really
- 16:19Speaker 1: poor decisions for myself. And I went in there and
- 16:24Speaker 1: I can remember knowing like this is such a bad idea,
- 16:27Speaker 1: like this is just not I don't need to be here,
- 16:31Speaker 1: And when you know, we ended up hooking up, and
- 16:34Speaker 1: it was just kind of like I remember being like
- 16:38Speaker 1: what did I just do? Like this was not good
- 16:41Speaker 1: for anybody, but also being like so confused, and then
- 16:46Speaker 1: like was he into it? Though? Like was it? You know?
- 16:49Speaker 1: Waking up the next morning was like gazing into your eyes? No, No,
- 16:53Speaker 1: it was really I felt really it was like he
- 16:58Speaker 1: had to go into work and I'm like he's like,
- 17:02Speaker 1: all right, well, like I'm gonna I gotta get ready, um,
- 17:06Speaker 1: if you want to come downstairs, my my dad's downstairs,
- 17:09Speaker 1: would love to see you. And I'm like You've got
- 17:10Speaker 1: like you've got to be kidding me, Like I'm dying,
- 17:13Speaker 1: Like what am I gonna do? He's like it's gotten
- 17:16Speaker 1: really late, like I overslept, like I'm gonna have to
- 17:19Speaker 1: go and I'm like wait what and he hands me
- 17:27Speaker 1: money to get an uber ah, And that just like
- 17:34Speaker 1: that was when I was like this is I was
- 17:38Speaker 1: just kind of done after that, which I knew immediately,
- 17:40Speaker 1: like I didn't feel like the chemistry, but then it
- 17:44Speaker 1: was like what is this? And then like I went
- 17:47Speaker 1: home and I'm like I just had coffee with Peter's
- 17:51Speaker 1: dad in a robe. I just spent the night at
- 17:52Speaker 1: his house and I'm like the show so on, Like
- 17:56Speaker 1: I'm like, what what just happened to me? And I
- 17:59Speaker 1: get at home and then like he texted me and
- 18:01Speaker 1: it was like so good to see you, but it
- 18:04Speaker 1: was so great catching like something like really like I'm
- 18:08Speaker 1: glad we have each other. I'm like, wait what, And
- 18:12Speaker 1: I was like, why are you being so nonchalant about this?
- 18:15Speaker 1: Like I don't know if that was such a good idea,
- 18:19Speaker 1: like it was and at that point, and then he
- 18:21Speaker 1: like calls me and like starts wanting to talk about
- 18:24Speaker 1: Madison with me literally the next day, talking about how
- 18:28Speaker 1: he's still like cares about Madison and I'm like, wait,
- 18:32Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm in the position, but I
- 18:36Speaker 1: don't like it, and um, it was just so messy.
- 18:42Speaker 1: And then like I'm watching, like knowing all this has happened,
- 18:46Speaker 1: and I was kind of over after that, like after
- 18:48Speaker 1: the next like the few texts and things between us,
- 18:51Speaker 1: I was like very turn off, Like I already was
- 18:55Speaker 1: turned off by like very turned off about how it
- 18:57Speaker 1: was all handled because I'm like this guy, sweet guy,
- 19:01Speaker 1: He's not okay right now, not making great decisions, and
- 19:04Speaker 1: I'm obviously not making great decisions either. And I think
- 19:08Speaker 1: at that point I was like, there's there's not anything
- 19:12Speaker 1: here anymore, Like it's already dead. I mean, he's making
- 19:15Speaker 1: a lot of f boy maneuvers, maneuvers like the text
- 19:22Speaker 1: message like that's basically like suck you up, and then
- 19:25Speaker 1: like the here's twenty bucks for your uber home and
- 19:29Speaker 1: then like the next day texting you and being like
- 19:33Speaker 1: love seeing your bud. That's not what you say to
- 19:35Speaker 1: someone you slept with and I were hooked up with
- 19:37Speaker 1: the night before, and then want advice about another girl. Yeah,
- 19:43Speaker 1: I was just like what And it's so like I
- 19:46Speaker 1: think Peter has a kind heart. I really do. Like
- 19:51Speaker 1: I'm not trying to like talk shit about him at all,
- 19:55Speaker 1: but I'm just telling the abviious this is what the
- 19:56Speaker 1: experience that I had. And um, then like to see
- 20:03Speaker 1: how he then was with Kelly at some point and
- 20:08Speaker 1: then like how everything played out, and then he starts
- 20:11Speaker 1: doing press and like sends me a text message basically
- 20:15Speaker 1: to make sure that I'm on the same page of
- 20:17Speaker 1: what he says for press. And that was when I
- 20:21Speaker 1: was just like I wasn't gonna say anything anyway, but um,
- 20:27Speaker 1: I was just really over it and that thing. That's
- 20:29Speaker 1: when I really going to be like distance myself from everything.
- 20:33Speaker 1: And um, but he did apologize, Like he sent me
- 20:37Speaker 1: a few messages apologizing even before the book came out.
- 20:41Speaker 1: But at that point I was just especially after all
- 20:45Speaker 1: that and like that kind of being where I'm like,
- 20:47Speaker 1: I want to separate myself from this for a while,
- 20:49Speaker 1: just for for protecting myself and in my heart and
- 20:54Speaker 1: needing to heal from everything. Um. So, yeah, have you
- 20:58Speaker 1: talked to him? Have you talked to him? The book
- 21:00Speaker 1: has come out? Um, he sent me a text about
- 21:04Speaker 1: it and was really kind. Um did it say hey,
- 21:07Speaker 1: come snuggle. No it didn't. It didn't say that, but
- 21:11Speaker 1: he took it really well. I haven't really messaged him
- 21:14Speaker 1: back yet, but um, because I think he wanted to,
- 21:19Speaker 1: you know, talk about it more publicly. And I don't
- 21:22Speaker 1: think there's really much more to say. Yeah, so but
- 21:26Speaker 1: I wish him well, I really do. Like like I said,
- 21:28Speaker 1: like all the guys that I talked about, I am
- 21:30Speaker 1: not trying to be malicious at all, and I all
- 21:32Speaker 1: like I've seen parts of their their heart that are
- 21:35Speaker 1: really great. Um. And and I wholeheartedly say that, but
- 21:41Speaker 1: in this experiences I learned that maybe my old patterns
- 21:45Speaker 1: and um, like the the way that I was feeling
- 21:50Speaker 1: in the emotions I had just didn't allow me to
- 21:54Speaker 1: have a safe, healthy relationship with with anybody at the time. Listen,
- 22:10Speaker 1: I'm running out of time with you. We only got
- 22:13Speaker 1: through the Peter of it all. I do need to know,
- 22:17Speaker 1: like I need to know the Tyler Cameron g thing
- 22:25Speaker 1: into quarantine because it seems like it seems even more
- 22:29Speaker 1: awkward than having coffee with Barb and Peter's dad after
- 22:34Speaker 1: the hook up session the g and yeah, that was
- 22:40Speaker 1: that was really hard. And I think that's where like
- 22:45Speaker 1: I taught I immediately after I got engaged to Jed
- 22:51Speaker 1: was still like very open about like I don't know
- 22:54Speaker 1: if I'm okay, Like I still have feelings for other people,
- 22:57Speaker 1: Like I'm trying to make the best decision. I'm making
- 22:59Speaker 1: this safest decision. But I can remember my parents loved
- 23:03Speaker 1: Tyler and they're like, you can change your mind, Like
- 23:05Speaker 1: I know it's close, but you can change your mind.
- 23:07Speaker 1: And I just felt like I couldn't. So I think
- 23:09Speaker 1: I always had even from the beginning, like was like
- 23:13Speaker 1: that what if, and like did I make the right decision,
- 23:15Speaker 1: and then when all the Jet stuff came out, I
- 23:17Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh, I have the worst picker
- 23:22Speaker 1: in the entire world, and um, and yeah, I was
- 23:29Speaker 1: really upset with that, But I think mostly upset because
- 23:31Speaker 1: there were already some signs with Jet that it was
- 23:33Speaker 1: like just not going to work out. And it was
- 23:36Speaker 1: even before that, like really like the next day, I
- 23:40Speaker 1: was like, what did I just do? And Um. Then
- 23:47Speaker 1: I was just so hurt by like, oh my gosh,
- 23:50Speaker 1: like I had at that time, Lily, but two amazing
- 23:53Speaker 1: guys that I really did care for, and I didn't
- 23:55Speaker 1: have the opportunity to like have that happy ending with them,
- 24:01Speaker 1: like that that love story that I maybe could have had.
- 24:04Speaker 1: And then um, but Tyler, I think was the one
- 24:09Speaker 1: that I was like, I don't think I gave it
- 24:11Speaker 1: a chance enough, Like I wish I would have gave
- 24:15Speaker 1: me in a chance sooner. Why don't you think you
- 24:17Speaker 1: gave him a chance? Was he just like always a
- 24:20Speaker 1: pretty boy? I can't see a future with him, because
- 24:24Speaker 1: that's the perception I got from watching the show. Yeah,
- 24:27Speaker 1: for sure. I think I had a lot of and
- 24:29Speaker 1: I talked about us in the book a lot, like
- 24:32Speaker 1: I kept being reminded how I was the dark horse
- 24:35Speaker 1: of being the bachelorette and like, um, you know didn't
- 24:41Speaker 1: always steel worthy myself. And then I'm like, I just
- 24:45Speaker 1: was always suspect of him. I think of like, what
- 24:47Speaker 1: are his intentions? Why is he on here? It's funny
- 24:51Speaker 1: you were doing that with the wrong guy. You choose
- 24:53Speaker 1: the guy that you were worried about. That exact thing
- 24:55Speaker 1: happened with Tyler, for sure, and like, I own up
- 24:59Speaker 1: to that, but I think there was a part of
- 25:01Speaker 1: me that knew he could really hurt me. Tyler could
- 25:04Speaker 1: and like he and eventually did, because you know everything, Um,
- 25:10Speaker 1: and I think I was scared of that, but like
- 25:12Speaker 1: you said, like I ended up instead happened with a
- 25:16Speaker 1: different guy. Um, And I just I don't know. I
- 25:20Speaker 1: just wasn't sure of his intentions and I'm like, why
- 25:22Speaker 1: does he like me? I don't know. And then I
- 25:27Speaker 1: like I truly did fall on the sword with him.
- 25:29Speaker 1: I was very like, this is how I feel about you.
- 25:31Speaker 1: I called him like I feel like I made a mistake.
- 25:36Speaker 1: I know that like you probably moved on, but like
- 25:38Speaker 1: I just felt like I need to tell that, And
- 25:40Speaker 1: I was like I would just love like I don't like,
- 25:42Speaker 1: real life is so different than being on a show,
- 25:45Speaker 1: Like we really haven't spent that much time together, but
- 25:48Speaker 1: I'd love to get to know you more. And he
- 25:50Speaker 1: was like, well I actually so I called him after everything,
- 25:54Speaker 1: but in which while the show was on, he was like, well, actually,
- 25:57Speaker 1: like I thought we could maybe hang out when I
- 25:59Speaker 1: was in California, like doing the um after the Phone Rose,
- 26:04Speaker 1: and I was like I'd love that, like I really
- 26:06Speaker 1: love that. Well then like the producers like find out
- 26:10Speaker 1: that we have talked and they're like, well, would you
- 26:12Speaker 1: ask him that on the finale? And so I called
- 26:16Speaker 1: to him, I was like are you okay with that?
- 26:17Speaker 1: Like I just want to make sure, Um, I think
- 26:21Speaker 1: everyone wanted me to have like this, something to look
- 26:26Speaker 1: forward to and something happy with like an engagement not ending.
- 26:29Speaker 1: And so I like called him like are you okay
- 26:32Speaker 1: with this? Like I know we're not like trying to
- 26:35Speaker 1: like date, but like we just want to get to
- 26:37Speaker 1: know each other again, and he was like yeah. So
- 26:39Speaker 1: when I asked him out, like it was, it was
- 26:43Speaker 1: already like talked about and so I was hopeful and
- 26:46Speaker 1: then we did hang out, um like when because I
- 26:49Speaker 1: had to go to New York and I came back
- 26:51Speaker 1: and it was great, like we just spent the whole
- 26:54Speaker 1: night talking, like we ended up kissing, Like he was
- 26:56Speaker 1: like I haven't felt like he was, like, I have
- 26:59Speaker 1: like talk to different girls, I've been on dates, like
- 27:01Speaker 1: I haven't felt this much even just like a hug
- 27:04Speaker 1: with you than I have with anybody else. And like
- 27:07Speaker 1: you know, I it was very intimate in like vulnerable
- 27:11Speaker 1: and talking about how we still have feelings for each
- 27:13Speaker 1: other and talking about you know, maybe like we kept
- 27:17Speaker 1: getting offered trips and things and like going on these
- 27:20Speaker 1: trips and our mom's meeting, and like I was hopeful,
- 27:25Speaker 1: like I was like wow, like this and and and
- 27:29Speaker 1: at first, like I was timid, like I didn't expect
- 27:31Speaker 1: him to like, yes, be okay, like I knew I
- 27:35Speaker 1: had hurt him, but then I was I was really hopeful.
- 27:39Speaker 1: We talked all the next day and then the next
- 27:43Speaker 1: day and this I've been and when I last saw you,
- 27:46Speaker 1: I can't remember. I did not last, but maybe I
- 27:48Speaker 1: saw you this day. I had to do the whatever
- 27:52Speaker 1: with the ABC UH press day for What's called And
- 27:59Speaker 1: we have been talking that night and then he called
- 28:01Speaker 1: me and he was like Hey, um, you know, I've
- 28:05Speaker 1: been having so much fun talking with you, and like
- 28:08Speaker 1: I really do want to see where this goes, but
- 28:11Speaker 1: I just want to make sure like we're dating other
- 28:14Speaker 1: like that it's okay, we're dating other people, and I
- 28:16Speaker 1: just this is a really quick conversation. I was like, um, yeah,
- 28:20Speaker 1: like I know we're not dating like exclusively or anything,
- 28:24Speaker 1: but like for me, in my heart, I just dated
- 28:26Speaker 1: thirty guys and that didn't work out well. So I
- 28:29Speaker 1: just kind of want to see where this, if this,
- 28:30Speaker 1: if there's any potential in this for me, And he
- 28:34Speaker 1: was like, uh, well, yeah, yeah, I get that. Can
- 28:37Speaker 1: we can we just talk about it later, like I'll
- 28:38Speaker 1: call you later because it was like a quick call
- 28:40Speaker 1: and I was like yeah, sure. I remember I went
- 28:43Speaker 1: to go eat like bossa Nova and then I started
- 28:46Speaker 1: getting these pictures showing up on my phone like a
- 28:49Speaker 1: few hours after we talked of him and Gig together
- 28:53Speaker 1: and I've even talked to him about Gigi following him
- 28:56Speaker 1: And was like, oh, man, like that's really cool, like
- 28:59Speaker 1: you know, talking about it like and that that really
- 29:03Speaker 1: that hurt me truly so bad. I just felt like,
- 29:08Speaker 1: what's going on. I didn't know what was going on
- 29:10Speaker 1: and he didn't call me. And then the next morning
- 29:12Speaker 1: I had to get ready and I was going in
- 29:15Speaker 1: to the fire of press because everything came out, and
- 29:19Speaker 1: I was so confused because like a few hours before,
- 29:22Speaker 1: we were talking about, you know, going on trips together,
- 29:26Speaker 1: like my mom coming to Florida to meet his mom,
- 29:28Speaker 1: like all these things, and uh, yeah, so we had
- 29:35Speaker 1: a conversation on phone. It did not end well. I
- 29:37Speaker 1: was really upset he didn't. I don't think understand what
- 29:42Speaker 1: that felt like for me at that time to have
- 29:45Speaker 1: to go in and now talk about this again. I
- 29:49Speaker 1: just felt really embarrassed and her, and then we didn't
- 29:52Speaker 1: talk for a while, like we were over it. Do
- 29:56Speaker 1: you think that subconsciously he did that to you almost
- 30:01Speaker 1: as revenge because you did it to him effectively you
- 30:05Speaker 1: chose some other person, um and kind of like ripped
- 30:09Speaker 1: ripped his heart out. Do you think that subconscious head
- 30:12Speaker 1: that Um, yeah, we kind of talked about that before.
- 30:16Speaker 1: I think a little. But also like if I had
- 30:18Speaker 1: the opportunity to j g Aded, i'd probably date her too. Um,
- 30:24Speaker 1: But yeah, I think he wanted his opportunity to date.
- 30:29Speaker 1: But at this I think just the way that it
- 30:31Speaker 1: was handled felt really disrespectful, and um, yeah, I think
- 30:39Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I definitely understood, but I think I
- 30:43Speaker 1: needed some communication of like what is going on, because
- 30:46Speaker 1: I mean, I will ask every question. I obviously can
- 30:49Speaker 1: talk to Brick while like I can talk and so like,
- 30:51Speaker 1: I wish you would have told me preparing me a
- 30:56Speaker 1: little bit, because it's not like he was just staying
- 30:57Speaker 1: in some random girls Gigi Hadi like of course that's
- 31:01Speaker 1: gonna come out. Well, yeah, and there's a little bit
- 31:04Speaker 1: of hey, we got passed last night walking out of
- 31:08Speaker 1: Beauty and essex or whatever it is, and I know
- 31:11Speaker 1: this is gonna be coming out, so I better hit
- 31:12Speaker 1: up Hannah before she sees it, Like yeah, there's a
- 31:16Speaker 1: little bit of Okay, I gotta go fix this real
- 31:18Speaker 1: quick because I know it's going to be a thing,
- 31:21Speaker 1: which makes it a little shadier. Yeah. And then then
- 31:25Speaker 1: after that, I was like so like, my I was
- 31:29Speaker 1: so heartbroken, and I but I dried my tears and
- 31:32Speaker 1: I like had to put on the space of being
- 31:34Speaker 1: like this strong, independent woman because that was just what
- 31:39Speaker 1: I felt like I was positioned to be at that point.
- 31:42Speaker 1: And then I was like I'm winning this, dang miraball
- 31:46Speaker 1: like I just really focused on the at because I
- 31:49Speaker 1: was like I need to win. And I think he
- 31:52Speaker 1: like messaged me once for my birthday and I was
- 31:54Speaker 1: just like thanks. And then we saw each other once
- 31:58Speaker 1: at the People's Choice of War and he like came
- 32:01Speaker 1: up to me, and I'll be honest, I was not
- 32:03Speaker 1: very nice, Like he tried to talk to me and
- 32:04Speaker 1: I was like we are not cool, and I'm like
- 32:07Speaker 1: we're not cool, Like I do not want to talk
- 32:09Speaker 1: like talk to you. But then when I saw his
- 32:15Speaker 1: mom and I talked all the time like she would
- 32:18Speaker 1: she really was like a Team Tanna fan and would
- 32:21Speaker 1: like send me like have you are you guys talking yet?
- 32:24Speaker 1: Like send nice things he said about me, and we
- 32:27Speaker 1: just kept a relationship and she I loved her so much.
- 32:33Speaker 1: And um when I saw because I got tagged and
- 32:37Speaker 1: literally everything he ever did that he posted them about
- 32:40Speaker 1: his mom and I had just talked to her two
- 32:42Speaker 1: days before, I was like, what's going on? Like and
- 32:48Speaker 1: at that point, I was like I just want to
- 32:50Speaker 1: reach out and like this is the time that I
- 32:52Speaker 1: want to just be like hey, like praying for you,
- 32:56Speaker 1: and then like he message me. It was like I
- 33:00Speaker 1: was literally just holding my mom's hand, like she loved you.
- 33:04Speaker 1: And I was like, why is he using past hints
- 33:06Speaker 1: and he was like, I was thinking about you, like
- 33:09Speaker 1: she loved you so much, and I'm like what. And
- 33:11Speaker 1: after that, like it was like everything else just like
- 33:14Speaker 1: took a seat and like took a back seat, and um,
- 33:19Speaker 1: I was able to like we we talked. He was like,
- 33:21Speaker 1: I would really love to get on the phone and
- 33:22Speaker 1: just like put everything behind us. And we did. We
- 33:24Speaker 1: really he apologized. We were able to talk to each other.
- 33:28Speaker 1: Like a day later, my brother had an overdose, and um,
- 33:33Speaker 1: I had somebody to talk to with that, and he
- 33:36Speaker 1: was he was there for me and I I don't
- 33:38Speaker 1: think this is a good thing, but I think we
- 33:40Speaker 1: formed a trauma bond where we were both going through
- 33:44Speaker 1: something really traumatic and hard at the same time, and
- 33:49Speaker 1: so we could be there for each other. And I
- 33:52Speaker 1: went down to Florida and during the funeral and everything,
- 33:57Speaker 1: like I was there with him, Like he he made
- 34:00Speaker 1: sure I had somewhere to stay. He stayed with me.
- 34:04Speaker 1: Um we you know, I met all his friends, I
- 34:09Speaker 1: was at everything. He really wanted me to be there
- 34:12Speaker 1: and I was so thankful. And I remember being like wow,
- 34:15Speaker 1: like I really care about this dude, like this guy,
- 34:20Speaker 1: and and telling him and him still saying he cared
- 34:23Speaker 1: about me, but I also knowing he was in this
- 34:24Speaker 1: like really um like terrible situation with like losing his
- 34:32Speaker 1: mom and like having to be there for his family.
- 34:34Speaker 1: So I was not pushing anything, but it was obvious
- 34:37Speaker 1: there was still like something there. And then he invited
- 34:41Speaker 1: me back down. This is before I knew what quarantine was,
- 34:43Speaker 1: and I wanted to get away from my trauma, which
- 34:46Speaker 1: was my brother was a drug abuser and I had
- 34:52Speaker 1: three times the more fat and I'll be like kill
- 34:55Speaker 1: a person. And it was a long time. He had
- 34:59Speaker 1: been struggling for a while and it was kind of
- 35:01Speaker 1: like a little secret our family had, and I was
- 35:05Speaker 1: the person that was able to pay for him to
- 35:07Speaker 1: go to a rehab center, and I like came back
- 35:12Speaker 1: for that and like wished him well, and then I
- 35:15Speaker 1: just wanted to be away because my family was like
- 35:17Speaker 1: just so upset because I mean, he died and it
- 35:21Speaker 1: came back to life like it was it was. It
- 35:24Speaker 1: was traumatizing, and so I left mind my trauma to
- 35:28Speaker 1: go to his. And that was a really like I'll
- 35:35Speaker 1: just say, like that was a hard time to have
- 35:39Speaker 1: any type of relationship. But I don't think it was
- 35:41Speaker 1: really helpful for us because I'm I'm in a place
- 35:46Speaker 1: like I'm not my home territory. I only know people
- 35:48Speaker 1: that are his friends. I'm like staying with his family members,
- 35:51Speaker 1: you know, like I'm staying in his bed with him.
- 35:55Speaker 1: Like there's feelings there, but some days like he just
- 35:59Speaker 1: didn't want to deal with it. But I'm like there,
- 36:01Speaker 1: like what do I do? Did he want you there?
- 36:04Speaker 1: Like I know that you got stuck because of COVID,
- 36:06Speaker 1: but did he want you to stay? Were you like
- 36:09Speaker 1: like almost like a like a comfort for him, like
- 36:14Speaker 1: some sort of pacifier. I think so at some points. Yeah,
- 36:18Speaker 1: I think there were sometimes like he wanted like we
- 36:20Speaker 1: were over each other, like you know, we would literally
- 36:24Speaker 1: not talk for like a day to each other. It
- 36:26Speaker 1: was in a in a small house, But um, yeah,
- 36:30Speaker 1: I think I was, Like I said, I think there
- 36:31Speaker 1: was a trauma bond there that like I was like
- 36:36Speaker 1: literally a figured to be like his comforter or his blanket,
- 36:39Speaker 1: like just somebody to be there. But for somebody who
- 36:42Speaker 1: has emotions and like feelings for somebody it was it
- 36:46Speaker 1: would really toy with my head. And of course I
- 36:49Speaker 1: did want to be like what am I doing here?
- 36:51Speaker 1: And he did not want to talk about it, and
- 36:53Speaker 1: that was really hard and it calls a lot of friction,
- 36:56Speaker 1: and um then it like really messed with my head
- 37:00Speaker 1: because and I'm like, why this guy who said he
- 37:02Speaker 1: loved me and you know, we haven't been intimate, like
- 37:06Speaker 1: he he hasn't even tried to make a move on me.
- 37:08Speaker 1: And then I'm like, oh my gosh, what's wrong with me?
- 37:10Speaker 1: You know? And then I go into what every girl
- 37:11Speaker 1: goes into and not that I don't think he meant
- 37:14Speaker 1: that at all, but like it just caused some insecurities
- 37:17Speaker 1: to come up. Um. But like in all that, like
- 37:22Speaker 1: I think, like I don't I'm not trying to say
- 37:26Speaker 1: anything bad about him. I think he could have handled
- 37:27Speaker 1: a lot of things differently. And then like even after
- 37:30Speaker 1: the fact of like him being like we're still like
- 37:33Speaker 1: I just let's just figure it out. I'm like, what
- 37:34Speaker 1: does figure it out mean? You know? What does what
- 37:36Speaker 1: does that mean? Because figuring out gives me hope? And
- 37:40Speaker 1: I don't want to have like hope if like you
- 37:43Speaker 1: don't want to be with me, and like are we
- 37:47Speaker 1: do you just want to be friends and he's like,
- 37:49Speaker 1: I want to be friends and like see where it goes.
- 37:51Speaker 1: And I'm like, you can't say that. Don't say where
- 37:54Speaker 1: it goes because I don't know how to hand like,
- 37:57Speaker 1: I don't know what to do with that. So we
- 37:59Speaker 1: just had a lot of like, yeah, there was just
- 38:04Speaker 1: a lot that happened, and um, ultimately, I just don't
- 38:08Speaker 1: think that timing ever worked out for us and if
- 38:11Speaker 1: we are really what each other wants, but we have
- 38:14Speaker 1: such we you know, we just had a connection because
- 38:16Speaker 1: of everything we've been through. Well, listen, I feel like
- 38:20Speaker 1: I could do like three more hours with you on this, Um,
- 38:24Speaker 1: But I guess that's a good cliffhanger for everyone out
- 38:29Speaker 1: there listening. If you want to hear the rest of
- 38:30Speaker 1: the story, go by Hannah's new book, God Bless This Mess,
- 38:34Speaker 1: Learning to Live and Love through Life's and through life's
- 38:38Speaker 1: best and worst moments. It's out now. Um, do you
- 38:41Speaker 1: do the audio book? Are you inaudible? I did do
- 38:44Speaker 1: the audio. Yes, I feel like a sound an accent. Well, hey, listen, UM,
- 38:50Speaker 1: it's good to see you. Congratulations on on releasing this book.
- 38:54Speaker 1: I know it's not easy to to write a book,
- 38:57Speaker 1: let alone write a book about your life. Let alone
- 39:00Speaker 1: write a book about your life, which you know has
- 39:03Speaker 1: a lot of ups and downs, which I'm sure was difficult.
- 39:07Speaker 1: So I applaud you for your bravery in doing that.
- 39:10Speaker 1: I imagine this is going to help a lot of
- 39:12Speaker 1: girls out there who are going through not the same thing,
- 39:15Speaker 1: but similar things with boys and stuff. So, UM, you rock,
- 39:18Speaker 1: and it's always wonderful to talk to you. You're the
- 39:20Speaker 1: best interview ever you can. Literally, I can ask you
- 39:23Speaker 1: one question, you'll go for forty five minutes. I know
- 39:27Speaker 1: it's bad. I'm definitely long winded, but I'll give you
- 39:29Speaker 1: all the information. Is there anything else you want to
- 39:33Speaker 1: promote while you're here? Um, yeah, I'm gonna be doing
- 39:37Speaker 1: some uh if you're in the Los Angeles area on
- 39:40Speaker 1: December four, I'm going to have a UM live show. UM.
- 39:44Speaker 1: Tonny rad is going to be my moderator. We're gonna
- 39:47Speaker 1: talk about the book and UM it'll be a good time.
- 39:50Speaker 1: It's December four at the Hollywood Improv. You can get
- 39:53Speaker 1: tickets on my link tree in my bio at Hannah
- 39:56Speaker 1: Brown on Instagram And if you're in Alabama, I'll be
- 40:01Speaker 1: UM doing some book signings at local Barnes and Nobles
- 40:05Speaker 1: and books A millions to check that out, but it'll
- 40:07Speaker 1: all be on my Instagram for any information. Well, thanks again, Hannah.
- 40:12Speaker 1: And also we didn't even get to talk about it,
- 40:14Speaker 1: and I feel bad, but shout out to your current
- 40:17Speaker 1: boyfriend Adam, who's I'm sure having to uh wait through
- 40:20Speaker 1: a lot of crap right now, So shout out to
- 40:23Speaker 1: him for being a good man and having to uh
- 40:27Speaker 1: kind of deal with this right now. Hannah, thank you
- 40:29Speaker 1: so much. It's wonderful talking with you, and I hope
- 40:31Speaker 1: to see again soon, maybe at the next Golden Clube. Yes, maybe,
- 40:36Speaker 1: all right, see you. Follow the Benn and Ashley I
- 40:40Speaker 1: Almost Famous podcasts on I Heart Radio or subscribe wherever
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