Latest / Reality with The King / EXCLUSIVE | PETER THOMAS: Prison, Cynthia & His New Love!
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hey, rain Drops.
- 0:01Speaker 2: The Monday Night Live cruise headed to New York City.
- 0:04Speaker 2: We have a live show on Sunday, September twentieth at
- 0:08Speaker 2: the City Winery in New York City. That's right, Come
- 0:11Speaker 2: see me. Carlos King, Blue Centric, Claudia Jordan, and Dustin
- 0:17Speaker 2: Ross live on stage in New York City, Sunday, September twentieth,
- 0:22Speaker 2: City Winery. Get your tickets at Kingdom rankt dot com.
- 0:29Speaker 2: Rain Drops on today's episode Reality with the King, we
- 0:33Speaker 2: have an exclusive. It's his first sit down that he
- 0:37Speaker 2: has been done in over a year. But he gave
- 0:40Speaker 2: it to your boy, Carlos King because as a Hello Libra,
- 0:44Speaker 2: he loves me the most. I'm talking about the Jamaican King,
- 0:49Speaker 2: the king of the night life scene. Yes, give it
- 0:53Speaker 2: up for the one, the only, Not Patricia, but Peter Thomas.
- 1:04Speaker 3: On that one.
- 1:07Speaker 4: Let me.
- 1:09Speaker 2: Do people in your face as a joke, of course,
- 1:13Speaker 2: do they call you Patricia.
- 1:14Speaker 4: That happened probably around maybe five or six years ago
- 1:18Speaker 4: in Baltimore, you know the Negroes in Baltimore, Brave.
- 1:23Speaker 3: They will say to your face, I'm like, really, are
- 1:29Speaker 3: you bad?
- 1:30Speaker 1: Peter.
- 1:30Speaker 4: I'm good, I'm good. You know, I'm good again, you
- 1:33Speaker 4: look great. Thank you appreciate that.
- 1:35Speaker 2: So obviously, you know, listen, the world knows that you
- 1:39Speaker 2: recently got a prison.
- 1:41Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:42Speaker 2: This is your first in person, sit down post prison
- 1:46Speaker 2: interview that you've done. So listen, we all really just
- 1:51Speaker 2: want to know, like, mentally, spiritually.
- 1:55Speaker 1: How are you.
- 1:57Speaker 3: I think I'm great now.
- 1:58Speaker 4: Yeah, that is behind me, you know, uh, not really
- 2:03Speaker 4: completely behind me, because I still have to report to
- 2:08Speaker 4: probation like once a month, you know, so you have
- 2:12Speaker 4: to report to somebody, kind of like I never have
- 2:16Speaker 4: to report to anybody in my life, you know.
- 2:18Speaker 1: So.
- 2:19Speaker 2: Uh and when you say report to somebody, what does that?
- 2:21Speaker 2: What does that look like?
- 2:23Speaker 3: Once a month?
- 2:23Speaker 4: I got a call in or they called me, and
- 2:26Speaker 4: they could pull up on me anytime, you know, any
- 2:30Speaker 4: time in the night, anywhere I am they because they
- 2:32Speaker 4: stay right there, well in our way, you know, to
- 2:35Speaker 4: come and see you. And if they want, they could
- 2:39Speaker 4: find a restroom and have you do a pistest right
- 2:43Speaker 4: there on the spot. And if you if if you
- 2:46Speaker 4: come up dirty, you're going straight back to jail, you
- 2:49Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, so you know, you
- 2:53Speaker 4: you're out, but you're not really out, you know, you're
- 2:55Speaker 4: not completely out until that process, that period is over,
- 3:00Speaker 4: you know. But it's better to be out, you know,
- 3:04Speaker 4: to be honest with you. And when I was going
- 3:06Speaker 4: away and not knowing, like it's like it's like doing
- 3:14Speaker 4: Housewife to be honest with you. You know, your tape and
- 3:17Speaker 4: then four or five months later on a Thursday, you'll
- 3:21Speaker 4: get to see the episode and you you already forgot
- 3:24Speaker 4: about it, and then it came back up and then
- 3:27Speaker 4: you know, the whole world is going to see it
- 3:29Speaker 4: on Sunday and then come Monday.
- 3:31Speaker 3: Is crazy, right, That's how it was.
- 3:33Speaker 4: Right now with this situation is that you know you
- 3:37Speaker 4: got to go to court for it. You know, you
- 3:39Speaker 4: did a plea bargain because there's nobody else in my
- 3:43Speaker 4: case what my brother And when they were talking about
- 3:46Speaker 4: my brother being locked up because uh borrow one Miami
- 3:49Speaker 4: Beach was under his name, I'm like, nah, that can't happen.
- 3:53Speaker 4: You know, my mom and my brother need each other.
- 3:56Speaker 4: So I said, now you gotta get my brother out
- 3:58Speaker 4: of the equation. So they said, what you have to do,
- 4:00Speaker 4: will please, and said, yeah, whatever, you know what I'm saying, Well,
- 4:03Speaker 4: you could get up to five years and said whatever.
- 4:05Speaker 3: My brother is not going to jail for one hour.
- 4:07Speaker 2: So wait, wait, this is the first time I'm hearing this.
- 4:10Speaker 2: So when you were charged with tax evasion.
- 4:14Speaker 4: Yeah right, it's not really tax eVision. It's with olden
- 4:17Speaker 4: Taxes's a big difference.
- 4:19Speaker 1: Yeah, well, explain to me.
- 4:20Speaker 4: The difference with olden taxes is tax eVision is when
- 4:26Speaker 4: you made a lot of money and personal taxes and
- 4:31Speaker 4: you don't pay, you go out and spend all your money.
- 4:34Speaker 3: Like they said, what they sniped it as an example.
- 4:37Speaker 4: Right, Uh, with old in taxes is on the business side,
- 4:41Speaker 4: it's not personal on the business side. I had a
- 4:46Speaker 4: nightclub in Charlotte, and I had a restaurant in Charlotte.
- 4:49Speaker 4: Restaurant was doing phenomenal, but I went, of course of
- 4:52Speaker 4: my ambition. I went and got the nightclub. And the
- 4:55Speaker 4: nightclub beautiful, beautiful spot. A matter of fact, I haven't
- 4:59Speaker 4: walked into any thing that pretty ever, all right, But
- 5:03Speaker 4: the night club was surrounded by Live Nation. Okay, so
- 5:06Speaker 4: Live Nation have three venues, Amphitheater behind me two thousand
- 5:10Speaker 4: cedar and then it has an eight hundred cedar. And
- 5:13Speaker 4: every time I would book someone, they would book heavier.
- 5:17Speaker 4: Then they got more money than we said. The old
- 5:19Speaker 4: book heavier. So the traffic is just one way into
- 5:22Speaker 4: the music factory, one way out of the music factory,
- 5:25Speaker 4: and that used to kill me because my people couldn't
- 5:27Speaker 4: get there. So you start falling behind in the revenue
- 5:32Speaker 4: that you're making, which puts you in a predicament where
- 5:36Speaker 4: you can't pay your staff on time. Okay, you can't
- 5:40Speaker 4: pay your revenue taxes on time. But my restaurant is
- 5:44Speaker 4: doing well, that has a whole parking lot by itself,
- 5:47Speaker 4: and it's downtown that's doing extremely well. So you start
- 5:50Speaker 4: barring from the restaurant to bail out the club, and
- 5:54Speaker 4: it just it got to a point where both of
- 5:56Speaker 4: them was doing bad because I'm trying to hold onto
- 5:59Speaker 4: the club. Should just let it go, but I was
- 6:01Speaker 4: trying to hold on to it as I'm holding on
- 6:04Speaker 4: to the restaurant. And it got so so ridiculous that
- 6:08Speaker 4: I'm like, Yo, you know what, Charlotte is not working
- 6:11Speaker 4: out for me. I'm going to go down to Miami.
- 6:14Speaker 4: So I came to Miami in twenty eighteen and I
- 6:17Speaker 4: found bar One Miami Beach. Remember we started with bar
- 6:21Speaker 4: One on the show back in twenty seventy followed the house.
- 6:29Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 6:30Speaker 4: So I mean that was a great brand, so I
- 6:32Speaker 4: wanted to bring when I left to go to Charlotte,
- 6:36Speaker 4: I didn't bring Bar one on me. I started Sports
- 6:38Speaker 4: one and then I did Club one. And then when
- 6:43Speaker 4: Charlotte got ridiculous, I'm saying, you know what, I'm going
- 6:46Speaker 4: to go back where I started my career in Miami
- 6:48Speaker 4: and I'm just gonna open Bar one. And when I
- 6:49Speaker 4: got down here, I had a beautiful location. So that's
- 6:52Speaker 4: you know, it started picking up. Things started picking up
- 6:55Speaker 4: for me. It got away from from everything that I
- 6:58Speaker 4: dislike in Charlotte to come to Miami Beach.
- 7:03Speaker 3: And at the time, it was.
- 7:05Speaker 4: Like four hundred and something thousand dollars that was old
- 7:09Speaker 4: up there. I figured I make a deal with DIRS
- 7:12Speaker 4: to pay with the olden taxes.
- 7:14Speaker 1: So the bar and Atlanta you old, oh the one
- 7:16Speaker 1: in Charlotte.
- 7:17Speaker 3: No, the one in Charlotte.
- 7:18Speaker 1: The one in Charlotte owed four hundred thousand dollars in tax.
- 7:22Speaker 4: Yeah, between the nightclub but mostly yeah, mostly the nightclub.
- 7:28Speaker 4: And you know, you don't pay them on time. The
- 7:32Speaker 4: interest in the penalties twice as much as the charge
- 7:36Speaker 4: you know, so it grew. I came down to Miami
- 7:39Speaker 4: and I, you know, like I dove into bar one
- 7:42Speaker 4: Miami Beach, and you know, I went back and forth
- 7:45Speaker 4: negotiating the taxes in Charlotte, and the week before the
- 7:51Speaker 4: supervisor signed off on it, and we called and said, hey,
- 7:54Speaker 4: look I just send you. I think I sent like
- 7:57Speaker 4: one hundred thousand dollars on a good fate to pay.
- 8:02Speaker 4: And they said, mister Thomas, we can't move forward.
- 8:07Speaker 3: And I said why.
- 8:07Speaker 4: They said, because Special Investigation Unit got involved.
- 8:11Speaker 3: I said, who are they? How could we talk to them?
- 8:14Speaker 4: The lord me and my lawyers those question and they're like, no,
- 8:18Speaker 4: you can't get in touch with them. You have to
- 8:20Speaker 4: wait until they get in touch with you. I'm like,
- 8:23Speaker 4: so what I do about the payment? Everything is on hold?
- 8:27Speaker 4: I said, okay, so the one.
- 8:29Speaker 1: Hundred thousand dollars he was giving to be.
- 8:32Speaker 3: To, yeah, Charlotte, North Carolina. For we're told in taxes.
- 8:36Speaker 1: You wanted to you wanted to pay one hundred thousand dollars.
- 8:39Speaker 3: On towards, you know, not on top towards.
- 8:43Speaker 1: And they rejected it.
- 8:44Speaker 4: No, no, they accepted the money, but they were to
- 8:48Speaker 4: sign off on the settlement. They didn't sign off as
- 8:51Speaker 4: yet when I send them money was on good fate.
- 8:53Speaker 3: That you know for the arrangement.
- 8:55Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, and by the time I don't think I
- 8:59Speaker 4: should mention her name. But by the time that supervisor
- 9:02Speaker 4: was supposed to sign off on it, she said, you know,
- 9:04Speaker 4: unfortunately we can't move forward because especially investigation unit is involved.
- 9:10Speaker 4: I never I don't know anything about no special investigation unit.
- 9:14Speaker 1: Because because I r asked that.
- 9:15Speaker 2: The thing with them is they'll work with you when
- 9:19Speaker 2: you tried to make a payment plan and installment agreement. Yeah,
- 9:24Speaker 2: but that is something you have to do soon, right,
- 9:27Speaker 2: So how long did you out on the four hundred
- 9:31Speaker 2: thousand dollars before you decided to pay one hundred thousand
- 9:34Speaker 2: dollars towards it?
- 9:35Speaker 4: Probably probably over a year because I had to get
- 9:40Speaker 4: the new business up and running to help get you.
- 9:44Speaker 4: They invested me for two and a half years. Almost
- 9:46Speaker 4: three years after I spoke to her and she the
- 9:51Speaker 4: deal was dead. I didn't hear from these people again,
- 9:54Speaker 4: and probably until a year later. You know, they just
- 9:58Speaker 4: show up in Miami had restaurant and the interview one
- 10:01Speaker 4: of my.
- 10:03Speaker 3: Manager for over an hour. Yeah, she was extremely bright.
- 10:07Speaker 4: So she retained everything that they asked and write it down.
- 10:12Speaker 4: Shortly after they left, and I believe they went to
- 10:15Speaker 4: my condo looking for me.
- 10:16Speaker 3: I wasn't there.
- 10:18Speaker 4: They left the note in on my building and when
- 10:21Speaker 4: I did call her, she was like, oh, mister Thomas
- 10:24Speaker 4: went to your house. Really nice residents. And I'm like, yo,
- 10:28Speaker 4: thank you, and she said, you know, we want you
- 10:31Speaker 4: to come in and see us. So immediately after that,
- 10:33Speaker 4: I called my attorney, Vincent Flynn, and Vinnie said, uh, no,
- 10:40Speaker 4: give me their number and I'll talk to them and
- 10:42Speaker 4: we move on from there. So from that point on,
- 10:45Speaker 4: it took another year to before there was a settlement.
- 10:50Speaker 3: And part of the settlement since.
- 10:52Speaker 4: Is my brothers was like the CEO of bor and
- 10:57Speaker 4: Miami Beach, they wanted this, said yo, we'll make a
- 11:00Speaker 4: deal if you take of course I want to take it.
- 11:04Speaker 4: My brother really didn't have nothing to do with any
- 11:07Speaker 4: of the decisions that I was making, you know, so
- 11:11Speaker 4: definitely I took that plea and make sure Earl had
- 11:16Speaker 4: nothing to do with anything. And that point on, once
- 11:19Speaker 4: you take the plea and accept the plea, now you
- 11:22Speaker 4: got to wait another year before you're sentencing you know.
- 11:26Speaker 4: So in that two years of all of that going on,
- 11:30Speaker 4: you know, when you have never been locked up before,
- 11:33Speaker 4: the stress was unreal because you don't know what you're
- 11:36Speaker 4: going to face.
- 11:36Speaker 3: You don't know what the judge is going to say.
- 11:38Speaker 3: You don't know.
- 11:39Speaker 4: I start googling the judge, find out his name. He
- 11:42Speaker 4: was appointed by Trump. I'm like, oh shit, I'm done.
- 11:45Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, because I'm anti Trump, you
- 11:47Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.
- 11:48Speaker 2: So the thing that is interesting is when you were
- 11:54Speaker 2: under investigation. Yeah, and they did it after you owed
- 11:59Speaker 2: money for over a year typically and again research has
- 12:05Speaker 2: shown that typically that money would have to last for
- 12:09Speaker 2: years before the Special Investigations Unit at the RS step
- 12:15Speaker 2: Bank because they feel like you're the like you said,
- 12:18Speaker 2: the interest and the penalty having incurred so much, and
- 12:21Speaker 2: it's been years that were.
- 12:24Speaker 1: Coming for you typically within a year or a little
- 12:28Speaker 1: over year.
- 12:29Speaker 2: It is surprising that they decided to come at you
- 12:32Speaker 2: at that point.
- 12:33Speaker 1: Do you think it's just someone tip them off?
- 12:36Speaker 4: That would be some kind of conspiracy theory at this time.
- 12:40Speaker 4: But what I do know is that we had an
- 12:43Speaker 4: extremely successful waterfront property on Miami Beach and I was
- 12:49Speaker 4: I'm extremely vocal by being pro black, and we were
- 12:55Speaker 4: in the lobby of a building that didn't want us
- 12:58Speaker 4: there at all and where we started a lawsuit, and
- 13:04Speaker 4: my landlord was part of that lawsuit in favor of me, okay,
- 13:09Speaker 4: because they were suing him, suing me the whole nine yards,
- 13:12Speaker 4: and wanted to get us out of that property because
- 13:17Speaker 4: my restaurant is ninety eight percent African American Caribbean.
- 13:23Speaker 3: Okay, that means it's all colors of black people.
- 13:26Speaker 4: And it was in a property where they were selling
- 13:30Speaker 4: the lowest unit at that point at the Bentley Bay
- 13:33Speaker 4: probably was around over a million dollars. And we're going
- 13:37Speaker 4: real hard back and forth with the racism shit. They
- 13:41Speaker 4: lawyer got kicked off the case because he wrote such
- 13:45Speaker 4: a vicious letter accusing us of stuff that that never happened.
- 13:50Speaker 4: Where the judge, you know, take him off the case.
- 13:53Speaker 4: She was offended by how deep he went with no proof.
- 13:57Speaker 4: And at the same time, they were breaking ground for
- 13:59Speaker 4: building called Fifth Park, which is the tallest condo building
- 14:05Speaker 4: on South Beach, most expensive building on South Beach. So
- 14:10Speaker 4: you know, the theory in mind is that damn they
- 14:14Speaker 4: it was all good before this building broke ground, you
- 14:18Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, to start construction. And immediately after
- 14:22Speaker 4: they broke ground that the pressure just started coming. Oh
- 14:25Speaker 4: you cannot, you cannot have valet, even though we have
- 14:28Speaker 4: value right in front of our spot. And the average
- 14:30Speaker 4: age that come to my place is forty years old,
- 14:33Speaker 4: so we're not asking them to walk a block. So
- 14:35Speaker 4: they took away the value from us. Then my customers
- 14:39Speaker 4: literally have to walk a whole city block to come
- 14:41Speaker 4: to the front door. Then they took away the planters
- 14:45Speaker 4: from in front of the front door of the red carpet.
- 14:47Speaker 3: Walk up that I had going on.
- 14:49Speaker 4: And this is after two years of me being there,
- 14:52Speaker 4: you know, and we only think that, like why they
- 14:56Speaker 4: start doing this all of a sudden while we can't
- 14:57Speaker 4: have our own valet.
- 14:59Speaker 3: And then when they move.
- 15:00Speaker 4: Our valley to the interest of the Bentley Bay, then
- 15:04Speaker 4: the condo people that's ninety percent white, okay, didn't want
- 15:09Speaker 4: to pull up in front of their driveway and see
- 15:13Speaker 4: all these black customers coming back and forth, you know
- 15:15Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So it gets very It got volatile
- 15:19Speaker 4: to a level that where as soon as the car
- 15:21Speaker 4: pull up to drop off for customers, they would have
- 15:25Speaker 4: a town company, They're like, no standing, they start just
- 15:30Speaker 4: it's cole harassment.
- 15:31Speaker 3: And that went on for a while. And all of
- 15:34Speaker 3: that was going on.
- 15:36Speaker 4: Shortly before I got to know, h there's no deal,
- 15:41Speaker 4: they're not going to sign off on the irs. And
- 15:43Speaker 4: it just got increased like shortly after that, we got
- 15:46Speaker 4: the call that.
- 15:49Speaker 3: That special investigation was now involved.
- 15:52Speaker 4: So we kind of put it together like somebody probably say,
- 15:55Speaker 4: how are we going to get rid of this guy?
- 15:58Speaker 3: You know?
- 15:58Speaker 4: And since I have no record and we don't sell
- 16:02Speaker 4: no drugs and we're making legal money and we have
- 16:05Speaker 4: a waterfront property.
- 16:07Speaker 3: I want to have to think that why would that happen?
- 16:11Speaker 2: So, for the record, you plague guilty and did not
- 16:16Speaker 2: decide to fight it only because you did not want
- 16:19Speaker 2: to involve your brother exactly.
- 16:21Speaker 4: Okay, if I went to court with it then, and
- 16:24Speaker 4: once you go to court with the federal government, you know,
- 16:27Speaker 4: it's very difficult to beat them in court no matter
- 16:32Speaker 4: what what do.
- 16:35Speaker 3: You think your answer is going to be for vindication.
- 16:37Speaker 4: You just can't win against them. And my lawyer is like, yo,
- 16:42Speaker 4: I'll take your money, but you're not going to win.
- 16:45Speaker 4: And once they involve Earl in it, there's no way
- 16:49Speaker 4: I could move forward.
- 16:51Speaker 3: So I said, I'll take it whatever it is.
- 16:53Speaker 1: And what did you take exactly?
- 16:55Speaker 4: At that point, they were saying somewhere between forty two
- 17:00Speaker 4: to sixty months, okay, And I'm like, I did the calculations,
- 17:05Speaker 4: like sixty months, it's five years.
- 17:06Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm going to be old when I
- 17:09Speaker 3: get out there. You know what I'm saying.
- 17:11Speaker 2: Take us to the moment when you first went to prison. Wow, Like,
- 17:19Speaker 2: what was that first day like for you? Cause the
- 17:22Speaker 2: thing is is I know you, and what people don't
- 17:24Speaker 2: know about you is this, despite what they want to say,
- 17:27Speaker 2: you have a good heart and you are sensitive extremely Okay,
- 17:32Speaker 2: So okay we can admit that. Okay, So my my
- 17:37Speaker 2: heart bled for you because I know that. Listen, you
- 17:40Speaker 2: can handle your own I'm not worried about that, but
- 17:43Speaker 2: I know that inherently you have a great heart. You
- 17:47Speaker 2: are sensitive, you love people.
- 17:50Speaker 1: You're not.
- 17:52Speaker 2: You're not trying to like get into any violent like that.
- 17:56Speaker 2: That's never been your thing. Right, So walking into prison,
- 18:02Speaker 2: what was that first night like for you?
- 18:04Speaker 1: Well?
- 18:05Speaker 4: I mean, wow, what led up to it is a
- 18:08Speaker 4: lot of bad decisions because of out of desperation, I
- 18:13Speaker 4: started putting together a restaurant in Northcross in Atlanta called
- 18:19Speaker 4: One Society, and I had sold the unit to get
- 18:23Speaker 4: the money and three four investors come on board. And
- 18:27Speaker 4: it took me liked eight nine months to get it together.
- 18:29Speaker 4: And by the time I got it together, I had
- 18:31Speaker 4: to go away, and I was kind of hoping that
- 18:33Speaker 4: it was up and running and it was doing well
- 18:35Speaker 4: before I go away, but that wasn't the case because
- 18:38Speaker 4: the energy was, you know, the energy of people knowing
- 18:40Speaker 4: me going the roadway probably at shift. You know, no
- 18:46Speaker 4: one was really coming out the way I want them to.
- 18:50Speaker 4: I was in panic mode all the time. I was
- 18:53Speaker 4: doing business with people I probably would never ever have
- 18:57Speaker 4: done business with, just trying to salvage something and and
- 19:02Speaker 4: hoping that my brother and the two other people that
- 19:07Speaker 4: was involved would stand up while I'm going. So I figure,
- 19:10Speaker 4: if I get it together and i'm away, I'm coming
- 19:16Speaker 4: back out to something active that's making money because I've
- 19:20Speaker 4: never had a failure.
- 19:22Speaker 3: So that didn't happen.
- 19:24Speaker 4: I just started dating my girl Alex all right, and
- 19:30Speaker 4: Alex right over there, and she's much younger, Okay, so
- 19:38Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't know what's going to happen. You know,
- 19:40Speaker 4: I'm thinking Alex is going to be here for me,
- 19:42Speaker 4: you know, thirty two years. Okay, laughing, this is what
- 19:51Speaker 4: I get from everybody. But check this out. Okay, look
- 19:55Speaker 4: at it. Oh you said on that one, continue, I
- 20:05Speaker 4: will continue.
- 20:08Speaker 2: This is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King.
- 20:11Speaker 2: Let's get back into the show.
- 20:14Speaker 3: Okay.
- 20:15Speaker 4: But anyway, you don't know what's gonna happen.
- 20:19Speaker 3: You know, your life is crumbling in front of you.
- 20:21Speaker 3: At the time. I'm like, I'm like, wow, I'm getting ready.
- 20:26Speaker 4: I'm getting I'm gonna be My birthday is going I'm
- 20:29Speaker 4: gonna be in jail on my birthday, on my sixty
- 20:33Speaker 4: fifth birthday, I'm gonna be in jail, you know.
- 20:36Speaker 3: And I didn't know how long I was going to
- 20:38Speaker 3: be in jail.
- 20:39Speaker 4: So to me, if if the judge said, fuck all
- 20:44Speaker 4: of that, I'm giving you sixty months. You know what
- 20:47Speaker 4: I'm saying, because it's just right he could do that,
- 20:52Speaker 4: then I'm like I'm done.
- 20:54Speaker 3: I'm over. You know. My lawyer is like, well, you
- 20:57Speaker 3: know you took the plea.
- 20:59Speaker 4: You know, two months before I went to get sentenced,
- 21:05Speaker 4: the prosecutor.
- 21:09Speaker 3: Did the motion to the judge to the court.
- 21:12Speaker 4: The US prosecutor did the motion to the judge that
- 21:16Speaker 4: I should serve no less than two years. Right, So
- 21:21Speaker 4: I'm like, damn, that's a long time, you know, and
- 21:28Speaker 4: my mind of course is not right again, you know,
- 21:30Speaker 4: like this didn't happen when I was in my twenties
- 21:33Speaker 4: or my thirties, right, you know, for what happened, you know,
- 21:36Speaker 4: so late in my life. Being removed for two years
- 21:42Speaker 4: is like being removed for ten years.
- 21:44Speaker 3: You know. I can't jump back like that. So distress
- 21:48Speaker 3: was unreal.
- 21:50Speaker 4: And then the night before I made again, I made
- 21:52Speaker 4: a lot of bad decisions based off me trying to
- 21:55Speaker 4: hold you know, my restaurant in Northcross together, and uh.
- 22:02Speaker 3: And it affects my relationship. So the day was going
- 22:05Speaker 3: to jail.
- 22:05Speaker 4: I had a huge fight with Alex the night before
- 22:09Speaker 4: and Alex said, I flew from I drove flew No
- 22:12Speaker 4: drove from Sarasota to come to go with me.
- 22:16Speaker 3: Viv my sister came down from New York. Earl came
- 22:21Speaker 3: down from New York.
- 22:24Speaker 4: You know, my friends all did like land and a
- 22:29Speaker 4: bunch of my friends Lou talk to everybody, did a
- 22:32Speaker 4: dinner with me. The night before I go in and
- 22:34Speaker 4: I'm seeing all of these people knowing that I'm probably
- 22:37Speaker 4: not going to see them again for a couple of years,
- 22:40Speaker 4: you know. But the judge ended up instead of twenty
- 22:44Speaker 4: four months and my lawyers action for a year and
- 22:47Speaker 4: a day. And after I spoke and he asked me, so,
- 22:51Speaker 4: mister Thomas, how did you get into this situation? And
- 22:53Speaker 4: then I'm like, well, Leanna, to be honest with you,
- 22:57Speaker 4: I was losing my business. And you know, my landlord
- 23:02Speaker 4: is first, my purveyor second, my employees are third, the
- 23:11Speaker 4: revenue department is fourth, and with all in taxes, I
- 23:15Speaker 4: an't thought I would have went to jail from overthow
- 23:17Speaker 4: in taxes, you know what I'm saying, but in that
- 23:20Speaker 4: order in order for me to stay, you know, survive
- 23:24Speaker 4: and get my business back on track. And because I
- 23:27Speaker 4: explained it to him in such a way that he
- 23:28Speaker 4: completely understood what I was saying, he said, well, I'm
- 23:31Speaker 4: not gonna do with the prosecutor's action and give your
- 23:34Speaker 4: minimum of twenty four months, but I'm not gonna do
- 23:38Speaker 4: what your lawyer's action for a year in the day.
- 23:41Speaker 3: I'm gonna do one better.
- 23:42Speaker 4: I said, what's that I'm thinking it's gonna say six
- 23:45Speaker 4: months or something. He said, I'm gonna give you eighteen months.
- 23:48Speaker 4: I'm like, hey, okay, I'll take it. I don't have
- 23:52Speaker 4: a choice but to take it, you know. And it
- 23:54Speaker 4: was just me and early in the Federal courthouse. Alex
- 23:56Speaker 4: was back in the hotel waiting on me to come
- 23:58Speaker 4: back to give her the news because it flew to
- 24:00Speaker 4: Charlotte to make sure she went to court with me.
- 24:02Speaker 4: So when I got back, you know, like when I
- 24:05Speaker 4: walked out of it him like eighteen months. I didn't
- 24:08Speaker 4: know anything about first time act. I didn't know anything
- 24:11Speaker 4: about FSA credits. I didn't know anything about none of that,
- 24:15Speaker 4: you know. So when I the day, the night before,
- 24:18Speaker 4: Alex and I got to blow up in the morning,
- 24:20Speaker 4: she wasn't going with me. So it was just me
- 24:23Speaker 4: Earl viv Er girlfriend and my son Peter that drove
- 24:27Speaker 4: me there, and my friend Abdul my Bessie that all
- 24:32Speaker 4: went there with me and had to walk, you know,
- 24:35Speaker 4: turned myself in and walked and looked at them, and
- 24:38Speaker 4: I thought Alex broke up with me the night before,
- 24:40Speaker 4: so that that kind of hurt sting, you know.
- 24:44Speaker 3: So here I am in jail. And when I walked
- 24:48Speaker 3: in the.
- 24:51Speaker 4: FCI in Miami, my counselor was in the lobby and
- 24:57Speaker 4: he came over and he was just staring at me
- 25:00Speaker 4: for whiles. When I went to the other side, and
- 25:03Speaker 4: you know, they changed your to let you take off
- 25:06Speaker 4: your street clothes, add my tomb for it on, take
- 25:09Speaker 4: my tomb for it off, And they said, what are
- 25:11Speaker 4: you going to do with this? You want to mail
- 25:13Speaker 4: it somewhere. I'm like, nah, donated, you know what I'm saying,
- 25:17Speaker 4: all right, and then you know, they put me in
- 25:19Speaker 4: the over size. I think they did it because of
- 25:23Speaker 4: who I am, because all those black guards at the
- 25:26Speaker 4: time knew who I was, you know, and they're like,
- 25:30Speaker 4: they just made me look like dumb. You know, they'll
- 25:33Speaker 4: give me a pants overall. That's three times side like this.
- 25:38Speaker 4: I probably think they did it on purpose, just to
- 25:41Speaker 4: check me.
- 25:42Speaker 5: Were you like in a real prison or like that
- 25:44Speaker 5: was a real FBC if if f CI in Miami
- 25:48Speaker 5: is a Federal Correctional institute, is is a low.
- 25:52Speaker 4: But they operated like like like it isn't a low.
- 25:57Speaker 4: They operated like it's like a person, and it's a
- 26:00Speaker 4: person you're locked in and sell, you know, but I
- 26:05Speaker 4: wasn't going to that. But when I got there, I said,
- 26:08Speaker 4: oh my god. I thought I was going across the street.
- 26:10Speaker 4: And then my counselor came over and said he introduced himself,
- 26:14Speaker 4: and it said, hey, I'm going to be your counselor,
- 26:18Speaker 4: and somebody's gonna come and walk you across the street. Okay,
- 26:22Speaker 4: Well it's not across the street, across the camp. And
- 26:25Speaker 4: that was the camp was FPC, and that's Federal prison camp.
- 26:31Speaker 1: It's like like what Martha Stewart went to.
- 26:33Speaker 3: Uh, but she probably wanted somewhere much nicer.
- 26:35Speaker 4: It's just probably like where like where Sean Combs is
- 26:39Speaker 4: right now, like where Puff is.
- 26:40Speaker 3: It's in four decks.
- 26:41Speaker 4: So that camp have like two hundred inmates. Uh, they
- 26:46Speaker 4: have four quarters, all right. And the first quarter I
- 26:50Speaker 4: went into was a whole party. I can't talk beyond that,
- 26:55Speaker 4: and I'm like, it's in you this legal and it's
- 26:59Speaker 4: no And when the guards are coming and I see
- 27:02Speaker 4: everybody's hiding their shit, so I'm like, oh, I can't
- 27:05Speaker 4: be here all right. Then they put me into another
- 27:08Speaker 4: unit and the guy three beds over from me, he
- 27:13Speaker 4: had problem where he would he would defecate on himself,
- 27:19Speaker 4: so and then they had the fan blown that way,
- 27:21Speaker 4: so I'll be smelling shit for like two days. I'm like,
- 27:25Speaker 4: I can't do this. I went in, I talked to
- 27:27Speaker 4: my caseworker, all right, and they figured out a way
- 27:30Speaker 4: to move me again. They moved me three times in
- 27:32Speaker 4: four days, and they've moved me into a unit where
- 27:35Speaker 4: I end up staying that unit for seven months you
- 27:38Speaker 4: know after that. And what it is is it's a
- 27:43Speaker 4: huge like dormitory, open, no partition, and twenty five guys
- 27:50Speaker 4: are on one side, and then there's a six foot
- 27:52Speaker 4: wall and on the other side the six foot wall
- 27:55Speaker 4: there's another twenty five guys.
- 27:57Speaker 3: And I go to sleep every night.
- 28:00Speaker 4: Okay, there's no privacy whatsoever with a guy to my
- 28:05Speaker 4: right this this far from me, and then the guy
- 28:10Speaker 4: to my left that far from me.
- 28:13Speaker 3: Yeah. No, all in one open door, one open door. Yeah.
- 28:17Speaker 3: Just it was crazy.
- 28:20Speaker 1: Did obviously everyone knew who you were?
- 28:23Speaker 4: No, because at that at that point, yeah, Well, the
- 28:26Speaker 4: first two places they put me, it was a lot
- 28:28Speaker 4: of brothers in Puerto Ricans. That the third place where
- 28:31Speaker 4: I land, it was like like four black guys. I
- 28:34Speaker 4: was the fifth and then there's a lot of people,
- 28:38Speaker 4: mostly Jewish, that was on that side.
- 28:39Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, so did some recognize you?
- 28:42Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, yeah, a lot of people recognized me in there. Okay,
- 28:45Speaker 4: the case worker know where I was. My counselor knew
- 28:48Speaker 4: who I was, all the guards knew I was. All
- 28:51Speaker 4: the black guards knew who I was. And then so
- 28:53Speaker 4: the words spread. So everybody's looking at me to see
- 28:57Speaker 4: if I'm going to be looking for special treatment.
- 28:59Speaker 3: But I just blended in.
- 29:01Speaker 2: With everybody to test your manhood.
- 29:04Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that that definitely happened a couple of times.
- 29:09Speaker 3: I don't know if I could speak on that, but yeah,
- 29:11Speaker 3: we blows.
- 29:14Speaker 4: People throw yeah, fight in one of the old Peter Thoms.
- 29:19Speaker 4: Some housewife, Yeah yeah, over nothing.
- 29:23Speaker 1: They would pick a fight with you. Yeah, with some
- 29:27Speaker 1: hits land on you.
- 29:28Speaker 3: Oh no, not not on me.
- 29:30Speaker 1: You would fight back.
- 29:31Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I would fight back. Of course you can't.
- 29:34Speaker 4: You cannot not fight back. If you're not fight back,
- 29:37Speaker 4: then what you're gonna look like?
- 29:39Speaker 1: You know that makes me sad?
- 29:41Speaker 2: Why because because I just said, you have a good heart,
- 29:45Speaker 2: you're very sensitive, You're not I know, you could defend yourself.
- 29:48Speaker 4: It was like like mini mouse. I should call his name.
- 29:53Speaker 4: His name is Junior, like mini mouse. You know, you
- 29:56Speaker 4: work out every day. And I think they took whatever
- 30:00Speaker 4: he used to be that way, they took the juice up.
- 30:03Speaker 4: It took it from him to kind of throw him off.
- 30:06Speaker 4: And he wanted to fight me over the TV room.
- 30:08Speaker 4: I'm in the TV room and I'm watching the TV.
- 30:10Speaker 4: It was who was watching? It was the playoff, you know,
- 30:15Speaker 4: the NFL playoff, And he's get upset that I'm in
- 30:18Speaker 4: his TV room that's on his side off, you know,
- 30:22Speaker 4: like I was in Ja. I can't even remember Jay
- 30:27Speaker 4: one two and he was in three four, all right,
- 30:30Speaker 4: And we have a TV over here.
- 30:31Speaker 3: They have a room over there for TV.
- 30:33Speaker 4: Two TV's over here, two TV's over there, but people
- 30:36Speaker 4: who as seniorities get to.
- 30:37Speaker 3: Choose the channel. And because.
- 30:41Speaker 4: The longest, Yeah, and I wasn't on I wasn't sleeping
- 30:45Speaker 4: on in the same wall as he was, so he
- 30:47Speaker 4: didn't think that I belonged in there. And he's Cuban,
- 30:51Speaker 4: so you know, you wanted to flex, you know. Uh,
- 30:54Speaker 4: And he actually came over to where I was. He
- 30:57Speaker 4: didn't even sleep over there to pick a fight with me.
- 31:00Speaker 4: So you know, I'm ready. I see him coming down
- 31:03Speaker 4: because you said something when I was in the hallway,
- 31:05Speaker 4: and I kind of ignore him, you know, and walk
- 31:07Speaker 4: away from him, and he said something in Spanish. I
- 31:09Speaker 4: don't know what he was saying, so I just kept
- 31:11Speaker 4: on walking. He's like, hey, hey, he's trying to like
- 31:14Speaker 4: and I kept on walking. So I went back to
- 31:17Speaker 4: my bed and here he comes walking down, you know,
- 31:20Speaker 4: the aisle, and he's walking down the hour where I sleep,
- 31:25Speaker 4: and like, what the fuck are you looking at?
- 31:28Speaker 3: And I looked at him.
- 31:29Speaker 4: I'm like, your mother, because I'm ready to send it
- 31:32Speaker 4: over at that time, that said what you said? You
- 31:35Speaker 4: said to me, I said, your mother, And he came
- 31:37Speaker 4: up to me and he like he tried to pat
- 31:39Speaker 4: everybody at that point got up my roommate, my my roommate.
- 31:44Speaker 3: Uh.
- 31:46Speaker 4: The guy that slept next door to me, jumped up
- 31:49Speaker 4: in between us, and when when Junia swung, I was
- 31:53Speaker 4: he was between me and Junior, so he took the head.
- 31:56Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, all right?
- 31:58Speaker 4: And when I went back to get that Junior, I
- 32:00Speaker 4: don't know if these guys have anything on them, you know,
- 32:02Speaker 4: the first time I'm going to the person you know
- 32:05Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So I want to make sure that
- 32:06Speaker 4: at at you know, you have the lock on my locker. Okay, okay,
- 32:13Speaker 4: the combination lock. So I make sure I take the
- 32:15Speaker 4: combination lock.
- 32:16Speaker 3: I put the.
- 32:18Speaker 4: Ring around the hind part around my man, and I'm
- 32:22Speaker 4: gonna get if I did, if I hear you, I
- 32:25Speaker 4: would have broken joined several places, you know what I'm saying.
- 32:28Speaker 3: So it's the best.
- 32:28Speaker 4: Thing that my my, my guy that up beside me
- 32:31Speaker 4: jump up between us, and you know, like you wanted
- 32:34Speaker 4: to get going, and I'm like, yo, let's go.
- 32:36Speaker 3: You went and he got like eight or nine guys.
- 32:39Speaker 4: Everybody in there is going to see this, by the way,
- 32:41Speaker 4: And when you went in there, when you went and
- 32:43Speaker 4: got those guys and came over there, there was a
- 32:45Speaker 4: bunch of Puerto Ricans that that that I dealt with
- 32:49Speaker 4: that like, yo, they came to s Peter, what's going on?
- 32:51Speaker 3: And I told him what's going on?
- 32:53Speaker 4: And when you come over there with all his Cuban friends,
- 32:56Speaker 4: the Puerto Ricans shut him down like what you doing. No,
- 32:59Speaker 4: you'ren't doing not over here. No, you ain't doing that
- 33:01Speaker 4: over here. You're not gonna touch him and then my
- 33:03Speaker 4: Jamaican friends the next day went and saw him and
- 33:07Speaker 4: tell him, yo, you gotta apologize, you know what I'm saying.
- 33:10Speaker 4: So like an hour later he was he was apologizing
- 33:13Speaker 4: to me, and then it happened again with somebody else,
- 33:17Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And that one we had
- 33:19Speaker 4: to go on the other side of the wall for
- 33:21Speaker 4: that one, you know what I'm saying. But yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 33:25Speaker 4: because I mean he tried me, you know, he felt
- 33:28Speaker 4: like he couldn't.
- 33:30Speaker 3: Yeah, but that was it.
- 33:32Speaker 1: But the thing is this because and tell me if
- 33:36Speaker 1: I got this.
- 33:37Speaker 2: Wrong, the actual unit that you're at, right, I assume
- 33:43Speaker 2: that everybody's there because they did something along the lines
- 33:46Speaker 2: of what you did.
- 33:47Speaker 4: Like it was white most most well, most of the
- 33:51Speaker 4: guys in the campus white collar crime, right, but did
- 33:55Speaker 4: there's a lot of guys I set half the campus
- 33:57Speaker 4: Puerto Ricans, okay, And there's no federal facility in Puerto Rico.
- 34:02Speaker 4: Some of the guys from the Virgin Island sauces, there's
- 34:04Speaker 4: no federal facility there. So if they're doing the kind
- 34:07Speaker 4: of white collar crime, they're going to send those guys
- 34:11Speaker 4: uh to you know, because they are US citizens. They're
- 34:15Speaker 4: going to send those guys to the camp if it
- 34:17Speaker 4: wasn't you know, something like like murder.
- 34:20Speaker 2: You know, like yeah, because you hear about like the
- 34:23Speaker 2: the jails where it's murder and these violent crimes, right,
- 34:28Speaker 2: you kind of will assume that, okay, violence will be there.
- 34:32Speaker 4: No, I wasn't around. I don't believe I was around
- 34:35Speaker 4: anybody like that. But there's guys though, that do want
- 34:38Speaker 4: to prison for I don't know their record, but they
- 34:42Speaker 4: want to like to to penitentiary, then work them their
- 34:46Speaker 4: way down to a medium, then work their way down
- 34:49Speaker 4: to a low, all right, and then eventually come to
- 34:52Speaker 4: a camp. Those guys don't want no no, no problems
- 34:55Speaker 4: because they don't want to go back, right, you know
- 34:57Speaker 4: what I'm saying. But I mean, but at the same time,
- 35:01Speaker 4: when you're in there, you have to you know, there's
- 35:05Speaker 4: a lot nobody wants to be there, you know what
- 35:07Speaker 4: I'm saying.
- 35:08Speaker 3: And you don't know.
- 35:09Speaker 4: I see guys who have you know, they want to
- 35:12Speaker 4: fight over the wall phone. There's five wall phone, only
- 35:15Speaker 4: one work, you know what I'm saying, and you get
- 35:18Speaker 4: fifteen minutes on it. So there's a lot of people
- 35:21Speaker 4: that the conversation might end with whoever they dealing with,
- 35:26Speaker 4: and it didn't end on a good note, and they
- 35:29Speaker 4: put them in a bad mood, and you.
- 35:32Speaker 3: Might say the wrong thing to them and they swing
- 35:33Speaker 3: on you.
- 35:34Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, because they don't want to
- 35:36Speaker 4: be there either.
- 35:37Speaker 3: Their life, everybody life is falling apart.
- 35:39Speaker 4: When you go there, you know, because you know, family
- 35:42Speaker 4: are mismanaging funds that you left out there. Business are closing.
- 35:47Speaker 4: My business closed while I was in there, you know
- 35:49Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Girlfriends are no longer girlfriends. You know
- 35:53Speaker 4: what I'm saying, And a lot of people pretty much,
- 35:56Speaker 4: you know, kind of write you off once you're not
- 35:59Speaker 4: in you know, you're not in society anymore.
- 36:02Speaker 3: You know.
- 36:03Speaker 4: For me, I knew that I had maximum to do
- 36:08Speaker 4: with eighteen months. Okay, I don't count the days every day.
- 36:13Speaker 4: That's worse thing to do is to count.
- 36:15Speaker 1: To days, because if there was what, today's long.
- 36:18Speaker 3: Longer, you know, And then you try to keep yourself busy.
- 36:21Speaker 4: But you know, like you got to eat child at
- 36:25Speaker 4: breakfast at five thirty in the morning, and by seven thirty,
- 36:30Speaker 4: I'm at the gate because I got an outside job.
- 36:33Speaker 3: Shout out to all my friends at the car wash.
- 36:38Speaker 4: I was washing cars, okay, and powerwashing concrete for seven
- 36:43Speaker 4: months at eighteen dollars a month.
- 36:46Speaker 3: That was my pay.
- 36:47Speaker 1: Wow.
- 36:48Speaker 4: So if you don't have nobody to send your money
- 36:49Speaker 4: and you're in there, you eighteen dollars a month, can't
- 36:51Speaker 4: buy anything at the commentsary.
- 36:52Speaker 3: So you just got to eat whatever they gift to you.
- 36:54Speaker 1: What they gift to you is garbage, because I mean,
- 36:57Speaker 1: here you are.
- 36:57Speaker 2: You were married to a supermodel, You lived in nice mansions.
- 37:01Speaker 2: You know, you're pretty much your doll live you. You
- 37:05Speaker 2: had a very privileged life, and being in this confinement,
- 37:10Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure it just humbled you.
- 37:13Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, And you know what it took me, I
- 37:16Speaker 3: would say the first.
- 37:19Speaker 4: I'd say the first ten days, I didn't I didn't
- 37:22Speaker 4: want to talk to anyone, you know, I didn't want
- 37:26Speaker 4: to call anyone.
- 37:26Speaker 1: Did you cry yourself to sleep sometimes at night?
- 37:29Speaker 4: It's not It doesn't take much for me to cry,
- 37:33Speaker 4: of course, because I don't know the people. I don't
- 37:35Speaker 4: know if I didn't sleep, to be honest with you,
- 37:38Speaker 4: for five months, and everybody that's still in the camp
- 37:41Speaker 4: noticed about me, I don't sleep, you know, because I'm
- 37:47Speaker 4: not around anyone that I know you know that really
- 37:50Speaker 4: knows me. So I'm around a bunch of men. Okay,
- 37:53Speaker 4: the bed, the mattress is this stick, and if you
- 37:57Speaker 4: go out and get a mattress that's not issued by that,
- 38:00Speaker 4: they're gonna take it. Okay, you're not supposed to have
- 38:03Speaker 4: any pillows because and my whole body was out of line.
- 38:08Speaker 4: It couldn't even get up and water. I don't know
- 38:12Speaker 4: why they didn't want you to have pillows, but they
- 38:14Speaker 4: didn't want you to have no pillows.
- 38:16Speaker 3: And it's cold as it's cold.
- 38:18Speaker 4: I was in a unit that was like felt like
- 38:21Speaker 4: it was fifty five degrees every day, and they want
- 38:24Speaker 4: you to only have one blanket. And if you know,
- 38:27Speaker 4: it's a good thing that I know somebody that could
- 38:30Speaker 4: got me another blanket. But then they'll do these ridiculous
- 38:33Speaker 4: lockdown and ridiculous raid in the middle of the night
- 38:36Speaker 4: and locked everybody up and then take all your shit
- 38:38Speaker 4: and then you start over again looking for a blanket,
- 38:41Speaker 4: and they don't care if you get cold. One thing
- 38:43Speaker 4: I could tell you about the person system is that
- 38:47Speaker 4: they don't give a fuck about you. You under see
- 38:50Speaker 4: what I'm saying. If I want to see, I got
- 38:55Speaker 4: I was playing pickball. I was a pickleball champ. First
- 39:00Speaker 4: time they had to pick a ball competition, all right,
- 39:03Speaker 4: And I hurt my ankle and I went and got
- 39:06Speaker 4: an xtray. And when I talk about getting the xtray,
- 39:10Speaker 4: you have to write, I find out you have to
- 39:13Speaker 4: write a request to get the xtray back.
- 39:15Speaker 3: And nobody came back at me.
- 39:17Speaker 4: So for five months I couldn't really walk properly or
- 39:20Speaker 4: running there. So I walked every day. I walked the
- 39:24Speaker 4: My piece was going out to the track and walk
- 39:28Speaker 4: the track every day because the track was outside. So
- 39:31Speaker 4: as long as I could be outside, I would be outside.
- 39:34Speaker 4: I get to look at the stars, you know, see
- 39:37Speaker 4: the birds, see the planes, the trees, the wind blowing.
- 39:41Speaker 4: Anything was peaceful to me. Anything like that. The moment
- 39:44Speaker 4: they locked the door, don't boom me you hear that
- 39:47Speaker 4: lock or it there's a lockdown, because I don't like
- 39:51Speaker 4: to feel like I can't be outside. The third day
- 39:56Speaker 4: and they had a nervous breakdown and two officers that
- 40:01Speaker 4: saw me at three point thirty in the morning, I
- 40:04Speaker 4: felt like I couldn't breathe. They looked at me and
- 40:06Speaker 4: they're like, yo, what you do in the situation. If
- 40:10Speaker 4: you just open the door for me and just let
- 40:12Speaker 4: me go outside for two minutes and bread I'll feel okay,
- 40:16Speaker 4: all right. And they look at each other and they said, okay,
- 40:21Speaker 4: two minutes. I said, can I get some ice? And said, yeah,
- 40:25Speaker 4: you could get some ice. So they say, go get
- 40:27Speaker 4: your cups running my cup, run back out there, get
- 40:30Speaker 4: some ice. And I'm like, damn, I'm in prison real.
- 40:34Speaker 4: And then then I come back in and they locked
- 40:36Speaker 4: the door, and then I had to go back in
- 40:39Speaker 4: and uh and try to make myself go to sleep,
- 40:42Speaker 4: but it was it was difficult.
- 40:44Speaker 3: You can't sleep in a environment like that, you know.
- 40:48Speaker 4: And then you know, like from my bed, I'm looking
- 40:50Speaker 4: down the hall and the light in the bathroom is on,
- 40:54Speaker 4: and if they flush your toilet, you hear. Guys will
- 40:58Speaker 4: take late showers, you know. I don't know what they
- 41:01Speaker 4: were doing in the bandroom, but it was filthy all.
- 41:03Speaker 3: The time, you know. So every time I go in
- 41:05Speaker 3: there have to spray and holds it down with hot
- 41:09Speaker 3: water just to take a shower. It was nothing, nothing nice.
- 41:14Speaker 1: In the unit.
- 41:14Speaker 3: I ain't never seen that.
- 41:16Speaker 1: Did they try you, No, not at all.
- 41:20Speaker 3: I've never seen that.
- 41:21Speaker 4: So I can't talk about that, but I wouldn't surprise
- 41:24Speaker 4: if it happened, you know, but I've never seen it.
- 41:30Speaker 4: There was one guy that used to like to go
- 41:32Speaker 4: in there and read his book at nighttime, and he
- 41:34Speaker 4: was gay, and his uh, his chair was always face,
- 41:41Speaker 4: always facing the urinal. So if you get up to
- 41:44Speaker 4: go pee, it that you gotta look behind him if
- 41:46Speaker 4: you look at you, I'm like, yo, money, why why
- 41:52Speaker 4: why face the urinal?
- 41:57Speaker 3: You know, it was crazy. He turned out to be
- 41:59Speaker 3: in a really nice guy. You know, I was in
- 42:03Speaker 3: the half way especially as JA.
- 42:10Speaker 2: Well, now the thing is, I mean my heart goes
- 42:13Speaker 2: out to you and and and just I mean, look obviously, look,
- 42:19Speaker 2: you play guilty. You own up to what you've done.
- 42:22Speaker 2: You you you paid your dues, right, you only serve
- 42:27Speaker 2: how many months? Seven months?
- 42:29Speaker 4: I was in the camp for seven months. Then after
- 42:32Speaker 4: the camp, you go to the halfway house. To me,
- 42:34Speaker 4: the halfway house was worse than the camp.
- 42:37Speaker 1: What so explain to us.
- 42:38Speaker 2: So the halfway house you were able to leave present
- 42:41Speaker 2: and you go to like a like you're on house arrest.
- 42:44Speaker 3: Uh no, not not quite no, not in my.
- 42:49Speaker 4: In my situation, the halfway house is like okay, you
- 42:53Speaker 4: get to the halfway house, and the whole purpose of
- 42:55Speaker 4: the halfway house to me is.
- 42:59Speaker 3: To get you condition to go back out right. I
- 43:05Speaker 3: was sleeping in in the room.
- 43:08Speaker 4: With uh.
- 43:11Speaker 3: Like three other guys right in a bunk bed I
- 43:14Speaker 3: was on first.
- 43:15Speaker 4: I was on the top bunk in another room, and
- 43:18Speaker 4: I complained about climbing up. I'm like, I was told
- 43:21Speaker 4: that nobody over sixty is supposed to be on the
- 43:24Speaker 4: top bunk.
- 43:26Speaker 3: I'm sixty five. I can't be on the top bunk, right, okay, So.
- 43:30Speaker 4: They moved me two days later into another room and
- 43:34Speaker 4: I have a bottom bunk at this time, because the
- 43:36Speaker 4: guy that was leaving SEO, Peter, you can have my bump,
- 43:39Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Just let them know I'm
- 43:41Speaker 4: leaving on this day and put in the request to
- 43:44Speaker 4: have it. I went and talked to them. They honored it.
- 43:47Speaker 4: So he left and I took his bump. But there
- 43:49Speaker 4: were three other guys in the room with me, and
- 43:53Speaker 4: one of the guy that was sleeping on the bottom bunk.
- 43:56Speaker 3: It was really quiet.
- 43:57Speaker 4: It took him probably around three four days for him
- 44:00Speaker 4: to have a conversation, and then he was Jamaica. He
- 44:03Speaker 4: was Jamaican, you know, and then I found out that
- 44:08Speaker 4: he had just he's coming off for twenty two years,
- 44:12Speaker 4: been locked up, you know. They went to Jamaica to
- 44:15Speaker 4: get him, to bring him back to America, found him guilty,
- 44:18Speaker 4: and he did twenty two years in the country that
- 44:21Speaker 4: he never visited, right, Okay, in very maximum prison, you know,
- 44:28Speaker 4: because so who was along with his case?
- 44:30Speaker 3: It's a drug case, all right.
- 44:32Speaker 4: So I used to look at him and he seems
- 44:35Speaker 4: like he was normal, and then I talked to him
- 44:39Speaker 4: and he was normal. And I don't know how he
- 44:42Speaker 4: did twenty two years. And then the guy that slept
- 44:46Speaker 4: above him was coming off of fifteen and a half years.
- 44:50Speaker 4: Then the guy above me was doing seven and.
- 44:52Speaker 3: A half years.
- 44:53Speaker 4: And here I am in there, just came off for
- 44:56Speaker 4: seven months in a prison camp. I felt like, man,
- 44:59Speaker 4: what the hell am I complaining about? But that's you know,
- 45:02Speaker 4: our lives are different, you know what I'm saying that
- 45:06Speaker 4: I didn't I think a tax thing. You should be
- 45:08Speaker 4: able to pay a tax, you shouldn't shouldn't be going
- 45:12Speaker 4: to jail for no tax unless you know, like you
- 45:15Speaker 4: just blatantly just disrespect them.
- 45:19Speaker 3: I didn't feel in my case.
- 45:21Speaker 4: That was the case because we were working it out
- 45:23Speaker 4: and I was sending payments trying to pay it off.
- 45:26Speaker 3: So to me, it's like, yo, listen, I'm not going
- 45:29Speaker 3: to relate to him.
- 45:30Speaker 4: He's doing twenty two years and he's doing fifteen years,
- 45:34Speaker 4: and the other guy's doing fifteen years. The guy above me,
- 45:36Speaker 4: he's doing seven and a half years. It was crazy,
- 45:39Speaker 4: but you know, there was decent people. I ended up
- 45:42Speaker 4: in a room where there was decent people.
- 45:44Speaker 3: I'm the guy, the.
- 45:45Speaker 4: Guy with from Jamaica. He ended up going home a
- 45:49Speaker 4: month before I did, and he called me once a week.
- 45:52Speaker 3: Just to say Hi, you know what.
- 45:54Speaker 4: And he's doing well okay, And I guess he's telling people, Hey,
- 45:58Speaker 4: I know Peter, And I was in same room with Peter.
- 46:01Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Hey, he faced on me
- 46:03Speaker 4: and still don't have nothing to say, just checking on you,
- 46:07Speaker 4: and then we'll be on the phone light and then have.
- 46:10Speaker 3: To make the conversation because he's not that talk totive,
- 46:13Speaker 3: you know.
- 46:14Speaker 4: And and the other guy, the other guys that's in there,
- 46:17Speaker 4: I mean like I feel bad for them because most
- 46:20Speaker 4: of these guys have nothing to go back out to nothing,
- 46:24Speaker 4: and there's no rehabilitation program in the Federal Institute. None
- 46:30Speaker 4: that I've seen, Okay, none.
- 46:33Speaker 3: All right.
- 46:33Speaker 4: We did a money smart class and I got up
- 46:37Speaker 4: there and talk about the restaurant business and how to
- 46:40Speaker 4: get into it in the whole nine yards. And I
- 46:42Speaker 4: really wanted to teach people because a lot of them.
- 46:45Speaker 4: Once you have that federal tag on you, I know
- 46:48Speaker 4: my number? You remember my number? Two three two one one,
- 46:57Speaker 4: that's my number? Why would I have that number? You
- 47:00Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.
- 47:00Speaker 3: It's not my Social Security number.
- 47:02Speaker 4: It's somebody prison number, Okay, that they give you, and
- 47:06Speaker 4: it stays with you until you die, unless somebody pardon you,
- 47:11Speaker 4: and then they sponge your records and it's all gone.
- 47:14Speaker 1: So the thing now, okay, so you owe restitution? How
- 47:18Speaker 1: much do you ow?
- 47:19Speaker 3: Two and a half million?
- 47:20Speaker 1: So did the four hundred thousand dollars that was with
- 47:23Speaker 1: the hell?
- 47:23Speaker 3: Did that?
- 47:24Speaker 1: All the interest and stuff? No?
- 47:26Speaker 4: No, And the money that they seizon on three of
- 47:28Speaker 4: my accounts, they didn't put it towards it either. Account Yeah,
- 47:32Speaker 4: they yeah, they they when they when they came, they
- 47:36Speaker 4: already shut you down, you know.
- 47:39Speaker 1: So how are you how are you gonna pay all
- 47:41Speaker 1: that money?
- 47:41Speaker 3: Back.
- 47:43Speaker 4: Well, thank God that I have a gift and I
- 47:46Speaker 4: could do things to make a lot of money to
- 47:47Speaker 4: pay them back. So to me, two and a half
- 47:49Speaker 4: million dollars is not a lot of money to pay
- 47:51Speaker 4: back this cats beside me to the right and left
- 47:54Speaker 4: for me. That restitution is one hundred million dollars. You
- 47:58Speaker 4: know they're never gonna pay that back.
- 48:00Speaker 3: Never.
- 48:02Speaker 4: Everybody at talking there when there's some guys that I
- 48:05Speaker 4: was laying beside that had restitution at seven eight million
- 48:09Speaker 4: dollars and they paid it before they even went to jail,
- 48:12Speaker 4: and everybody's looking at them like, why did you do that?
- 48:15Speaker 3: You know at your age, you know what I'm saying.
- 48:18Speaker 4: To pay My lawyer asked me, how long would it
- 48:20Speaker 4: take for you to make two and a half million dollars?
- 48:25Speaker 3: And I said, if I, if I have a good run,
- 48:27Speaker 3: I could do it in a year.
- 48:30Speaker 1: You think, not think you believe that you can make
- 48:34Speaker 1: two and a half million within a year.
- 48:36Speaker 4: Ball and Miami Beach was doing eight nine million dollars
- 48:39Speaker 4: a year, okay, all right? Net two three million dollars
- 48:47Speaker 4: after everything is paid. Yes, So the industry that I'm in,
- 48:51Speaker 4: I could easily make that kind of money.
- 48:53Speaker 1: And is that your plan to open up another bar
- 48:55Speaker 1: and restaurant?
- 48:56Speaker 3: Yes?
- 48:57Speaker 1: Absolutely, Do you have one in mind that you're going
- 49:00Speaker 1: to do in Miami?
- 49:01Speaker 3: Yeah? I have.
- 49:02Speaker 4: I have a couple that I want to do, but
- 49:04Speaker 4: I don't think I could talk about it. You know,
- 49:07Speaker 4: I got to make sure that I let everybody know
- 49:09Speaker 4: I'm crossing the t's.
- 49:10Speaker 3: And dot the eyes.
- 49:11Speaker 1: You have who's going to help you?
- 49:13Speaker 4: Yeah, because they understand business people understand I went to jail.
- 49:17Speaker 4: I didn't steal anything from nobody. I went to jail
- 49:19Speaker 4: with We're told in taxes that I agreed to pay,
- 49:22Speaker 4: so I'm not a thief, you know what I'm saying.
- 49:24Speaker 4: And they know that my track record that that's the
- 49:26Speaker 4: first time out of eighteen restaurants and bars and lounge
- 49:32Speaker 4: and a thirty eight year career that have ever happened
- 49:35Speaker 4: to me, and they have happened to the best of them.
- 49:38Speaker 4: We have a guy in office now that has thirty
- 49:41Speaker 4: four account all type of bullshit and failed a thousand
- 49:45Speaker 4: times and probably evade taxes hundreds of millions of dollars,
- 49:49Speaker 4: and he's in the White House. You know what I'm saying.
- 49:52Speaker 4: But I went to jail for twoenty and a half
- 49:53Speaker 4: million dollars that I could easily paid off within a
- 49:56Speaker 4: year or two. You know, they stop your life when
- 49:59Speaker 4: they come day. They seize all your asset, all your
- 50:04Speaker 4: bank account. Okay, freeze everything. So just before I went away,
- 50:09Speaker 4: there was something my employees couldn't get paid and they
- 50:11Speaker 4: were trashing me in the media, and.
- 50:13Speaker 1: Well, I want to address that. There were people saying
- 50:16Speaker 1: you weren't paying.
- 50:17Speaker 3: How could I pay them? They froze everything prior to that,
- 50:20Speaker 3: there were people It wasn't prior to that by the
- 50:22Speaker 3: time it came out.
- 50:24Speaker 1: By the time it came out. So when the employees
- 50:26Speaker 1: went on on social media and saying we haven't received.
- 50:28Speaker 3: The chance, they didn't know what was going on.
- 50:30Speaker 1: You didn't tell what was going on.
- 50:31Speaker 3: No, they didn't know what was got it?
- 50:33Speaker 1: Do you have money now that you're able.
- 50:36Speaker 3: To you this is gonna be edited?
- 50:42Speaker 1: Well, well, well, okay, what I'm getting at. What I'm
- 50:45Speaker 1: getting at is are your accounts to frozen?
- 50:48Speaker 3: Those accounts are frozen, but they allow you to frozen.
- 50:52Speaker 3: They're gone. They took that money, they're not giving that back.
- 50:54Speaker 1: They took everything.
- 50:55Speaker 4: Yeah, they garnished everything, everything, everything, And if you own
- 51:00Speaker 4: a car with the title, they're taking it.
- 51:03Speaker 3: If you have a count on it's paid for it,
- 51:05Speaker 3: they're taking it.
- 51:06Speaker 4: They don't like to touch LLC or any kind of
- 51:09Speaker 4: corporation because they don't have the manpower to manage such
- 51:12Speaker 4: thing and sell your assets. So they'll take your house,
- 51:14Speaker 4: they'll take your car, things that they could flip and
- 51:17Speaker 4: get the money right away, you know what I'm saying.
- 51:19Speaker 4: But they don't want your business.
- 51:20Speaker 3: You know.
- 51:21Speaker 4: But when they seize Baltimore in Atlanta, what they did
- 51:27Speaker 4: that at that time, they they took hundreds of thousands
- 51:33Speaker 4: of dollars and they forced you out of business. And
- 51:38Speaker 4: now you can't pay your purveyors, you can't pay your employees,
- 51:42Speaker 4: you can't pay your landlord, you can't play everything, and
- 51:45Speaker 4: everything started crumbling. And that's and then they watching to
- 51:48Speaker 4: see where they say, oh, you got money, where's the money.
- 51:56Speaker 4: So they're watching to see where the money is gonna
- 51:58Speaker 4: come from for you to pay that. They could go
- 52:00Speaker 4: seize that also, So you have to make a choice. Okay,
- 52:05Speaker 4: at that point, you just gotta let go, you know.
- 52:10Speaker 4: And you're getting trash, you're getting trashed by by your employees,
- 52:14Speaker 4: you're getting trashed by the preveyers. My landlord know my situation.
- 52:18Speaker 4: My landlord right now would rent me a spot tomorrow.
- 52:21Speaker 4: Matter of fact, I just got a location from his
- 52:24Speaker 4: son because they know who I am. And that landlord
- 52:29Speaker 4: have rented seven different locations to me in Miami, so
- 52:33Speaker 4: he knows my character. So you have no problem giving
- 52:36Speaker 4: me back a water front property or any a plus
- 52:39Speaker 4: property that he has because he knows who I am.
- 52:43Speaker 4: But the people that don't know me and your employee.
- 52:46Speaker 4: You know, these people in the restaurant business, you know,
- 52:50Speaker 4: a lot of them work from paycheck to paycheck to
- 52:52Speaker 4: paycheck as a server or as a bartender, you know,
- 52:55Speaker 4: so when they can't cash your chat, okay, because they
- 53:02Speaker 4: don't even know the reason why. And I wasn't telling anybody.
- 53:04Speaker 4: I wasn't going to I didn't even want to give
- 53:06Speaker 4: her a plug.
- 53:07Speaker 3: But there's one.
- 53:09Speaker 4: Podcast girl that was just trashing me with an ex
- 53:12Speaker 4: manager that she was a felon, she was a thief,
- 53:16Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.
- 53:17Speaker 3: And she only worked for me for five.
- 53:18Speaker 4: Weeks and she was trashing me, okay, all right, And
- 53:23Speaker 4: like I had to put her situation out there. You
- 53:26Speaker 4: trashing me you're a thief in Virginia. You know what
- 53:29Speaker 4: I'm saying. Your institution is way more than mine, you
- 53:33Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. But and she was doing interviews
- 53:35Speaker 4: just to make sure that she buried me. But they
- 53:39Speaker 4: I mean, she's buried. I'm not worrying about her, you
- 53:42Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I'm coming back out and I've
- 53:44Speaker 4: done so much great business with so many great people
- 53:47Speaker 4: that everybody like, I'm coming back out. And my friend's like, Yo,
- 53:51Speaker 4: we got this venue. We want you to take it
- 53:54Speaker 4: over because we can't do nothing with it, and we
- 53:56Speaker 4: know you can make it pop.
- 53:59Speaker 3: Here's the keys.
- 54:01Speaker 1: But look, that's good.
- 54:03Speaker 2: Well, it's good that you got out with something that
- 54:06Speaker 2: you actually can look forward to. When you were in
- 54:12Speaker 2: you you said you were disappointed as some people did
- 54:15Speaker 2: not they did not keep in contact with you. One
- 54:19Speaker 2: of those people that you mentioned was your ex wife,
- 54:22Speaker 2: Cynthia Bailey, and of course it blew up on the
- 54:28Speaker 2: blogs and a lot of people Peter did not like
- 54:31Speaker 2: that because they felt like this woman held you down
- 54:33Speaker 2: for so many years. They felt like Cynthia Bailey has
- 54:36Speaker 2: never once said anything negative about you in the press.
- 54:40Speaker 1: They did not feel like she deserved that from you.
- 54:44Speaker 4: Okay, those friends, because since you did do something that
- 54:47Speaker 4: hurt me, what did she do? Okay, we had purchased
- 54:51Speaker 4: our doing our divorce.
- 54:56Speaker 1: You know.
- 54:56Speaker 4: Of course, people on her side of the defense, mostly
- 55:01Speaker 4: her family, was like, Oh, he's gonna he's gonna want this,
- 55:06Speaker 4: and he's gonna want that, and they put that in
- 55:08Speaker 4: her air.
- 55:09Speaker 3: Right now.
- 55:10Speaker 4: I never married Cinthia for what Cintia could do for me.
- 55:14Speaker 4: Because when I met Cynthia, I was opening a restaurant.
- 55:18Speaker 4: She came on border in that restaurant uptown. Okay, I
- 55:21Speaker 4: had like seven hundred thousand my money into it. I
- 55:24Speaker 4: think she put up like one hundred thousand dollars, all right,
- 55:27Speaker 4: And that's when Obama was running for president and there
- 55:31Speaker 4: was no gas you got to go fine gas and
- 55:33Speaker 4: long lines in Atlanta, and my restaurant.
- 55:36Speaker 3: Came to a halt. Okay.
- 55:38Speaker 4: I just met her, right, and she had just moved
- 55:42Speaker 4: from she had just moved from New York with her
- 55:46Speaker 4: daughter and her nanny to come and live with me, right,
- 55:48Speaker 4: And we actually bought a house together. Okay, you was
- 55:53Speaker 4: in that house. That's where I first met you. So
- 55:58Speaker 4: and but I didn't I wasn't at home feeling sorry
- 56:03Speaker 4: for myself. When Uptown had to close, I went immediately
- 56:07Speaker 4: and found a little one called bar One, all right,
- 56:11Speaker 4: and that's when the girls was trashing it. Always in
- 56:13Speaker 4: the hood, the whole nine yards on the show, and
- 56:16Speaker 4: I honor her. When you walked in there, it was
- 56:20Speaker 4: an eight by ten picture, powerful black woman with an
- 56:24Speaker 4: afro when you walked in there, okay, Cynthia Belly.
- 56:27Speaker 3: I didn't ask Cinthya for any contribution for that place.
- 56:30Speaker 4: None, And I wanted to hold it down as black
- 56:33Speaker 4: as a proud black Jamaican man.
- 56:36Speaker 3: I'm not looking for no woman to take care of me. Okay.
- 56:39Speaker 4: So when we was going through the divorce, I had
- 56:41Speaker 4: to call up Wendy Williams because I know I was
- 56:43Speaker 4: going to get trashed by a black woman. Okay, all right.
- 56:47Speaker 4: I call up Wendy Williams and I asked her. I said,
- 56:49Speaker 4: she said, oh, we're doing our last show just Thursday.
- 56:53Speaker 4: If you could come, I give you five minutes. And
- 56:55Speaker 4: I went on Wendy Show just to tell everybody doing
- 56:58Speaker 4: my divorce, I'm taking nothing from Cynthia Bailey. Okay, all right,
- 57:03Speaker 4: But what Cynthia did while I left, and I drove
- 57:08Speaker 4: and moved my life and start my life over in Charlotte.
- 57:11Speaker 4: You guys didn't even know when I actually did that.
- 57:14Speaker 4: You guys found out after I think you already left.
- 57:17Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. They found out after that.
- 57:19Speaker 4: I wasn't even Cynthia and I wasn't in together.
- 57:22Speaker 3: I was in Charlotte. Okay. I had sports one up
- 57:24Speaker 3: there at club one up there. I walked away. This
- 57:27Speaker 3: happened twenty sixteen, March of twenty sixteen. Okay. And out
- 57:34Speaker 3: of the divorce. When I say I want nothing, we got.
- 57:38Speaker 4: We had acquired Auburn Avenue, a property in Auburn Avenue
- 57:42Speaker 4: where I wanted to do bar on Atlanta, Right, so
- 57:45Speaker 4: I did the divorce. That was my property, and the
- 57:48Speaker 4: money that went towards that property is the deal that
- 57:53Speaker 4: her and I had. The deal that her and I
- 57:55Speaker 4: had that nobody know about is that after all the
- 57:58Speaker 4: bills are paid, I get fifty. Remember the guy flew
- 58:02Speaker 4: all the way to Atlanta to fight with me because Ken,
- 58:04Speaker 4: you wouldn't give him any money, And he said me
- 58:06Speaker 4: and Todd told him that. So that money that wrote
- 58:11Speaker 4: that check one hundred and sixty thousand dollars for that
- 58:13Speaker 4: property in Auburn Avenue was my property, okay.
- 58:17Speaker 3: And that's the only thing I took in the divorce.
- 58:19Speaker 4: My lawyer wanted me to take after income because I
- 58:22Speaker 4: was entitled, okay to half. Okay, I'm like, I'm not
- 58:26Speaker 4: doing that. She could have, I thought, No, we never
- 58:29Speaker 4: had no prenum. Y never had a prenup, never, okay,
- 58:33Speaker 4: so she could well prenup.
- 58:35Speaker 3: She what did?
- 58:38Speaker 4: There was nothing to prenup when we got married. There
- 58:41Speaker 4: was no money, you know, I said, there was no
- 58:43Speaker 4: reason for no prenup. So when we went you the divorce,
- 58:48Speaker 4: I said, since you you could sell a house. I
- 58:51Speaker 4: don't want any money from the house. You could keep
- 58:53Speaker 4: the house, okay, I said, Uh, you can't live in
- 58:57Speaker 4: the house because you starting a new life. Why would
- 59:01Speaker 4: you want to bring somebody new into a house that
- 59:06Speaker 4: was our dream, you know what I'm saying.
- 59:08Speaker 3: So that's how that went down. So she agreed to
- 59:11Speaker 3: sell a house. A year or so later.
- 59:15Speaker 4: I didn't want no fifty percent of her salary. I
- 59:17Speaker 4: didn't want her to pay me a dime. I didn't
- 59:19Speaker 4: ask for none of that shit, okay. And she was
- 59:21Speaker 4: on my lawyer was looking at me like you bugging okay,
- 59:25Speaker 4: all right? And the only reason why I was on
- 59:27Speaker 4: the handle a lot of house right because I was
- 59:30Speaker 4: her husband. We got married on the show. Right, it
- 59:33Speaker 4: wasn't it didn't call the Peter and Cynthia show. You
- 59:37Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, so she could keep it all right,
- 59:39Speaker 4: I took nothing. A year later that I was in
- 59:44Speaker 4: the middle of doing some deal for the property that
- 59:48Speaker 4: I have on Auburn Avenue and for the a major
- 59:51Speaker 4: deal that I was doing because borrowing took off, right,
- 59:54Speaker 4: so people wanted to come in. And I was building
- 59:57Speaker 4: ball on Baltimore at the time, and a lawsuit came out,
- 1:00:03Speaker 4: said Cynthia Billy soon Peter Thomas for a money invested
- 1:00:09Speaker 4: in Auburn Avenue property, and no one called me. She
- 1:00:13Speaker 4: didn't call me and even talk about that, And so
- 1:00:17Speaker 4: I got on the phone with her attorney, like what
- 1:00:21Speaker 4: what's going on? So when my investors saw that, it
- 1:00:24Speaker 4: killed that deal. It's a ten million dollar deal, died
- 1:00:29Speaker 4: immediately because it's a damn he's not even paying his
- 1:00:32Speaker 4: ex wife.
- 1:00:33Speaker 3: Okay that property was?
- 1:00:34Speaker 1: How much money? Was it?
- 1:00:36Speaker 3: What for that she was sued me for? She was
- 1:00:39Speaker 3: sued me for I think for the property.
- 1:00:44Speaker 4: You know, they wanted her to her lawyer probably talk
- 1:00:47Speaker 4: her into it or somebody talked her into it to
- 1:00:49Speaker 4: get the property. The property was just sitting there in
- 1:00:51Speaker 4: Auburn Avenue for seven years. I didn't do anything with it,
- 1:00:55Speaker 4: you know, but we paid the cash. I went and
- 1:00:57Speaker 4: negotiated with the mayor at the time, and they said,
- 1:01:00Speaker 4: a nonprofit that needs the money have properties on all
- 1:01:04Speaker 4: I've been at avenue.
- 1:01:05Speaker 3: And I went over there and I select the one
- 1:01:07Speaker 3: that I want and she wrote the check from me. Yeah. So, yeah,
- 1:01:11Speaker 3: so she wrote that check for the property that I need,
- 1:01:15Speaker 3: all right, And.
- 1:01:17Speaker 4: Eventually we settled where I gave her one hundred thousand
- 1:01:21Speaker 4: dollars back for the property.
- 1:01:24Speaker 1: And from my understanding, you guys were good though. She
- 1:01:27Speaker 1: was on your podcast.
- 1:01:28Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:01:29Speaker 1: So my point is, no, I'm aware of all of that. Yeah,
- 1:01:32Speaker 1: but you guys were good. She came your podcast, everything
- 1:01:37Speaker 1: seemed good. Why did you, though, feel the need to blast.
- 1:01:40Speaker 4: Her bless her because that hurt me that she did
- 1:01:44Speaker 4: and with no apologies whatsoever.
- 1:01:46Speaker 1: No, no, because when you blasted her, you said she
- 1:01:49Speaker 1: didn't come, she didn't contact me.
- 1:01:51Speaker 3: And yeah, yeah, I'm going to tell you.
- 1:01:53Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you what happened because I've never spoke
- 1:01:55Speaker 4: on it before, and since you're already in the mix,
- 1:01:58Speaker 4: I could speak on it now.
- 1:01:59Speaker 3: Okay.
- 1:02:01Speaker 4: I lived in the townhouse where she did the podcast,
- 1:02:05Speaker 4: and that's the first time I've seen Cinti in years. Right,
- 1:02:09Speaker 4: So she agreed to do the podcast. She came to
- 1:02:11Speaker 4: my townhouse, beautiful townhouse in Bucket. I felt like this
- 1:02:16Speaker 4: is my home, right and because I'm going away and
- 1:02:21Speaker 4: the IRS is still on me, and then did the
- 1:02:24Speaker 4: company that was under you know, I wanted to secure
- 1:02:29Speaker 4: it because I'm going away, and I said, if I
- 1:02:32Speaker 4: go away for a year or at least a year
- 1:02:37Speaker 4: fourteen fifteen months, I want to come back to.
- 1:02:39Speaker 3: My home, all right. So I needed to make a payment, okay,
- 1:02:43Speaker 3: to just paid off.
- 1:02:46Speaker 4: Okay, So I said, uh, Cynthia, you know I need
- 1:02:49Speaker 4: you to write this a matter of fact, Cynthia, I
- 1:02:51Speaker 4: need you to buy this townhouse from me, all right,
- 1:02:55Speaker 4: under your company name.
- 1:02:57Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gone.
- 1:02:59Speaker 4: Okay, could rent it out AIRBNBD whatever, because I have
- 1:03:03Speaker 4: three hundred and fifty thousand equity into this place.
- 1:03:06Speaker 3: Okay, I don't want to lose that money, okay, all right,
- 1:03:10Speaker 3: and if.
- 1:03:10Speaker 4: You can't airbnbid or for whatever reason, you could sell
- 1:03:13Speaker 4: it under your company name.
- 1:03:16Speaker 3: Okay.
- 1:03:16Speaker 4: But at least I know there's a chance of me
- 1:03:19Speaker 4: having my home when I get back out. And we
- 1:03:23Speaker 4: met at a restaurant in the loot and she agreed,
- 1:03:31Speaker 4: and I talked to my banker which I introduced her to,
- 1:03:35Speaker 4: which is now her banker. Okay, And I involved my
- 1:03:40Speaker 4: friend Canita Brooks in it because she was talking to
- 1:03:44Speaker 4: Cynthia more than I was, so I wasn't trying to
- 1:03:46Speaker 4: talk to Cnthia every day, so I had Anita in
- 1:03:49Speaker 4: the mix talking to her to make sure to go down.
- 1:03:52Speaker 3: And like ten days before.
- 1:03:56Speaker 4: The process fold, I called Or on the ninth there
- 1:04:01Speaker 4: and said, hey, look, I've been texting you and you know,
- 1:04:06Speaker 4: for you to engage with the people that we could
- 1:04:09Speaker 4: do the purchase. And I don't know what happened within
- 1:04:13Speaker 4: her saying yes and that ten days, but I sent
- 1:04:18Speaker 4: her a text and her reply was, I feel like
- 1:04:22Speaker 4: I'm being pressured. I feel like I'm being bullied, okay, And.
- 1:04:26Speaker 3: I'm like what.
- 1:04:29Speaker 4: Because we had a great lunch, okay, I thought everything
- 1:04:33Speaker 4: was good. I'm the guy who walked away, not taking
- 1:04:38Speaker 4: fifty percent of the money, not taking any money future money,
- 1:04:42Speaker 4: just walked away, Sell the house, keep the money from
- 1:04:45Speaker 4: the proceeds from the house. Do whatever anything you think
- 1:04:47Speaker 4: I owed you, you got it, Okay. I don't want nothing.
- 1:04:51Speaker 4: So when she did that to me. And the day
- 1:04:57Speaker 4: when I made that statement is the day that the
- 1:04:59Speaker 4: marshall knocked on my door at seven thirty in the
- 1:05:01Speaker 4: morning and give me fifteen minutes to get out of
- 1:05:04Speaker 4: my townhouse. Okay. And I thought we were good. I
- 1:05:10Speaker 4: thought I didn't take none from the divorce. I thought
- 1:05:13Speaker 4: we were friends. She just did the podcast in the
- 1:05:16Speaker 4: said townhouse, and now I lost my house because she
- 1:05:21Speaker 4: didn't stand up for me like I stood up for her.
- 1:05:24Speaker 4: I took for year's callers. And you produce these shows
- 1:05:29Speaker 4: where people were saying, I'm broke, she support me, I
- 1:05:32Speaker 4: am living off of her and all of that shit,
- 1:05:34Speaker 4: and none of that shit was true, but you know
- 1:05:37Speaker 4: that's the way the show was edited.
- 1:05:39Speaker 3: So when I go out there, I have to face
- 1:05:41Speaker 3: that every day after be after face that.
- 1:05:44Speaker 4: I was in publics once and a woman say, when
- 1:05:47Speaker 4: you're gonna pay cent to your back of her money?
- 1:05:48Speaker 3: I'm like, what money. You know, it was crazy.
- 1:05:51Speaker 4: So I took those abuse and you know, I would
- 1:05:55Speaker 4: say for the first three four years, since you didn't
- 1:05:57Speaker 4: know how to make that vehicle Atlanta house, while for
- 1:06:00Speaker 4: she didn't know how to mix it up with Nini
- 1:06:02Speaker 4: or with anybody, and I was always in their ears.
- 1:06:05Speaker 4: You used to push me into situation where where we
- 1:06:09Speaker 4: turn up the numbers. You know what I'm saying, Just
- 1:06:11Speaker 4: to because every year you have to wait to see
- 1:06:15Speaker 4: if they're gonna get you back.
- 1:06:16Speaker 3: You have to wait for that letter after the reunion.
- 1:06:18Speaker 4: And since it was always in panic mode, you know
- 1:06:21Speaker 4: what I'm saying, that she might not get called back.
- 1:06:25Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. So I'm like, Okay, I'm
- 1:06:27Speaker 4: gonna do what I gotta do to help her to
- 1:06:29Speaker 4: make sure that she get called back.
- 1:06:30Speaker 3: And you helped. You helped.
- 1:06:32Speaker 4: You the one who made the guys make the show
- 1:06:34Speaker 4: more interested, you know what I'm saying.
- 1:06:37Speaker 3: So for years I wasn't getting paid.
- 1:06:42Speaker 6: Well, it sounds like.
- 1:06:43Speaker 1: This because I want to be River cheer because you.
- 1:06:45Speaker 2: The thing is, I definitely thank you, thanks for explaining it,
- 1:06:49Speaker 2: because I have a greater understanding. Right I do think
- 1:06:52Speaker 2: though is I'm being honest with you. You know me
- 1:06:54Speaker 2: and you are honest with each other. Yeah, I do
- 1:06:57Speaker 2: think though, and simply as the right. She doesn't owe
- 1:07:05Speaker 2: you anything anymore, she doesn't well I think this.
- 1:07:10Speaker 1: You know her brother than I do. You was married
- 1:07:12Speaker 1: to a woman. You know, she's very sweet.
- 1:07:14Speaker 2: Like how I say, you're sensitive and you're a nice
- 1:07:16Speaker 2: guy with a warm heart and all those things. I
- 1:07:18Speaker 2: will say the same things about her. She's very sweet.
- 1:07:21Speaker 2: She always wants to do the best for anybody.
- 1:07:24Speaker 1: I think.
- 1:07:25Speaker 2: Look, I'm not here to speak for her on her spokesperson,
- 1:07:28Speaker 2: but I do I'm aware of the dynamic of y'all two,
- 1:07:32Speaker 2: and I want you to know I do believe, in
- 1:07:35Speaker 2: Cynthia's defense, it could be hard for her to disappoint
- 1:07:40Speaker 2: you because she does appreciate you, and she always has
- 1:07:44Speaker 2: given you your props in terms of helping her understand
- 1:07:50Speaker 2: this entertainment unscripted world, and she does value you. I
- 1:07:56Speaker 2: think Cynthia at some point probably the need to just
- 1:08:01Speaker 2: say to herself, I have to cut the cord here now.
- 1:08:05Speaker 1: Granted, granted, granted, should.
- 1:08:09Speaker 2: She have said all those things to you at the lunch, absolutely,
- 1:08:13Speaker 2: but I do believe that Cynthia doesn't ever want to
- 1:08:19Speaker 2: disappoint you because you know her. She doesn't want to
- 1:08:22Speaker 2: disappoint anybody. And is that fair to say you were
- 1:08:26Speaker 2: married to her? She doesn't have the spirit her friendship
- 1:08:29Speaker 2: with Mini. When you use a complain and say you
- 1:08:32Speaker 2: talk to her twenty hours a day, what about your husband? Well,
- 1:08:36Speaker 2: I don't want to disappoint her because she's my friend
- 1:08:38Speaker 2: on the show, and so you know she has the
- 1:08:40Speaker 2: spirit of I don't want to disappoint people.
- 1:08:44Speaker 1: I do feel like this. I do feel like you,
- 1:08:47Speaker 1: Harvard a lot of resentment.
- 1:08:52Speaker 3: I did.
- 1:08:52Speaker 4: And there's a lot of times Sinjy could speak up
- 1:08:54Speaker 4: and she'd said nothing. You know, there's a lot of
- 1:08:57Speaker 4: times Sinjy could come to my rescue, even when we
- 1:09:00Speaker 4: was in Mexico, I believe, and me and Ninnie got
- 1:09:03Speaker 4: into it and she called me a bitch and all
- 1:09:05Speaker 4: of that.
- 1:09:06Speaker 3: My wife didn't stand up for me.
- 1:09:08Speaker 1: You still hold on to that?
- 1:09:09Speaker 3: No, I remember it. I don't hold on to it.
- 1:09:12Speaker 3: I remember it. She didn't.
- 1:09:14Speaker 1: How long does this mean you're talking? Because I received that,
- 1:09:19Speaker 1: and I'm looking at you. I received that. That doesn't
- 1:09:22Speaker 1: feel good. But how long did you hold on to
- 1:09:26Speaker 1: that because.
- 1:09:27Speaker 3: I didn't hold on to it. You know, it echoed
- 1:09:31Speaker 3: across the planet, you know what I'm saying, and the.
- 1:09:34Speaker 2: Show was huge and till this day people call you
- 1:09:37Speaker 2: Patricia because of that one moment. And I do understand
- 1:09:42Speaker 2: as a black heterosexual man. Yeah, it doesn't feel good right.
- 1:09:47Speaker 3: Not at all. But I didn't hold on to it.
- 1:09:49Speaker 4: I promise you I didn't, Okay, because I always see
- 1:09:53Speaker 4: the show as a business.
- 1:09:55Speaker 3: I never took it personal.
- 1:09:57Speaker 1: But you took her not defending your personal exactly because
- 1:09:59Speaker 1: that's and I received that. So when it came to
- 1:10:06Speaker 1: what happened later.
- 1:10:07Speaker 2: Look, one thing we know is when someone is dealing
- 1:10:14Speaker 2: with the reality of going to prison, you do have
- 1:10:19Speaker 2: moments where you sit back.
- 1:10:20Speaker 1: And you think about all the things and you reflect
- 1:10:23Speaker 1: on who's there for you, who's not.
- 1:10:25Speaker 2: And that's why I do understand how you're feeling. I
- 1:10:29Speaker 2: will say personally as your friend, though, Peter, I'm saying
- 1:10:32Speaker 2: to you, I just don't think Cynthia deserved that in
- 1:10:35Speaker 2: that moment.
- 1:10:36Speaker 3: Well, I never go out there. That's why she came
- 1:10:38Speaker 3: and did my podcast.
- 1:10:40Speaker 2: Well I know, but see, everything you're saying is the
- 1:10:42Speaker 2: reason why I'm saying to you as your friend, but.
- 1:10:45Speaker 4: You don't know what happened after that. And there's certain
- 1:10:47Speaker 4: things that even though this podcast, I want.
- 1:10:49Speaker 2: To ask, and I was just about to say, out
- 1:10:51Speaker 2: of respect of your relationship and your friendship with me,
- 1:10:53Speaker 2: I don't even want to know. And I'm not going
- 1:10:55Speaker 2: to ask because I don't want to cause anything that
- 1:10:59Speaker 2: could ruin was left or your friendship. But the point
- 1:11:02Speaker 2: I was making was this because I am aware that
- 1:11:05Speaker 2: you two had because you both said this to me
- 1:11:08Speaker 2: when I came back season nine and we went to
- 1:11:10Speaker 2: Hawaii together, right, and y'all both said to me, we're
- 1:11:15Speaker 2: not going to trash each other, and if that's what
- 1:11:18Speaker 2: you want, you ain't getting it. And I said, I
- 1:11:21Speaker 2: don't want that, and I actually respect it. I actually
- 1:11:25Speaker 2: wanted to see y'all have fun and y'all have fun
- 1:11:26Speaker 2: in Hawaii. And I think the reason why I was
- 1:11:29Speaker 2: shocked by it, who's in rooms in Hawaii? No, I know,
- 1:11:33Speaker 2: but I know I'm saying the I'm saying, y'all dynamic.
- 1:11:36Speaker 2: It was like, we can hang out in Hawaii and
- 1:11:39Speaker 2: get along. So what I'm saying to you is I did.
- 1:11:42Speaker 2: I was shocked that when you made that comment.
- 1:11:47Speaker 1: It is only because of the pact that I know
- 1:11:49Speaker 1: y'all had.
- 1:11:50Speaker 4: Well, there's things that again, there's things that happened between
- 1:11:54Speaker 4: Cynthia and I that I know if I speak on
- 1:11:57Speaker 4: it it will completely crush you.
- 1:12:00Speaker 2: Well, don't speak. But I will never and I don't
- 1:12:02Speaker 2: want you ever to. I will never promise me. I
- 1:12:06Speaker 2: promise you even when you're mad.
- 1:12:10Speaker 3: I've been mad. You've been mad to Libra.
- 1:12:14Speaker 4: Don't you ever speak on that's dead, that's you know,
- 1:12:19Speaker 4: that's two boyfriends and a husband. You know what I'm saying.
- 1:12:22Speaker 4: So far removed. I'm happy the first thing is said
- 1:12:25Speaker 4: to me when yeah, I did, because I have to
- 1:12:27Speaker 4: let these people know. Okay, when you saw me, you said, Yo,
- 1:12:31Speaker 4: you look peaceful.
- 1:12:32Speaker 3: You you do that.
- 1:12:35Speaker 2: I also want to give you your grace because I
- 1:12:42Speaker 2: don't know what it's like to be in prison and
- 1:12:47Speaker 2: what that does your mental health. And that's why I'm
- 1:12:51Speaker 2: not here bashing you for what you did. I'm aware
- 1:12:54Speaker 2: that when a man enters that world.
- 1:13:00Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you something before I go to prison. Okay,
- 1:13:10Speaker 4: twenty twenty December ninth, my dad passed away, all right,
- 1:13:19Speaker 4: and yeah, and well I don't even remember.
- 1:13:29Speaker 3: I don't.
- 1:13:29Speaker 4: I don't think Cynthia was there at at the funeral
- 1:13:33Speaker 4: or anything like that. I think only Apollo showed up right, Okay.
- 1:13:39Speaker 4: But when my dad passed away on December ninth, I was.
- 1:13:47Speaker 3: I was doing well.
- 1:13:48Speaker 4: I was building a restaurant and waterfront property in Baltimore,
- 1:13:54Speaker 4: and a year later, when the place opened, I completely
- 1:14:02Speaker 4: fell apart in the airport, like start balling in the airport.
- 1:14:07Speaker 4: Don't even know why, uncontrollable, humiliated by everybody because I'm
- 1:14:14Speaker 4: getting on Southwest and everybody in Southwest is black, so
- 1:14:17Speaker 4: everybody knows me, you know what I'm saying.
- 1:14:19Speaker 3: So it was crazy people.
- 1:14:21Speaker 4: Coming over and rubbing my back and you okay, Peter,
- 1:14:25Speaker 4: and they don't know what's going on. But because that health,
- 1:14:28Speaker 4: so much, so much disappointment, so much hurt, might never
- 1:14:32Speaker 4: been to. Don't know where my grandmother is buried in Jamaica,
- 1:14:38Speaker 4: when my never went to visit my little brother from
- 1:14:41Speaker 4: me died in nineteen seventy six, right, never went to
- 1:14:46Speaker 4: his gray side.
- 1:14:47Speaker 3: And then my dad died, and then it.
- 1:14:50Speaker 4: Felt like everything collapsed and the people that I thought
- 1:14:54Speaker 4: that loved me and care for me wasn't around. Nobody
- 1:14:58Speaker 4: was around, okay, all right, And I was in the depression,
- 1:15:02Speaker 4: and nobody knew but my attorney, Wendy Uh, Wendy Cradle.
- 1:15:07Speaker 4: And to be honest with you, Alonzo mourning wife, Tracy
- 1:15:11Speaker 4: Morning saw the look at my in my face, and
- 1:15:15Speaker 4: Alonzo Morning, I mean Tracy Morning really said I need
- 1:15:18Speaker 4: to get on this, this Bible study program.
- 1:15:21Speaker 3: She insists. I got on it.
- 1:15:23Speaker 4: When I got on it, the guy who was conducting
- 1:15:25Speaker 4: it was a friend of mine and courage Martin football play.
- 1:15:28Speaker 4: And I fell apart on that phone, okay, and the
- 1:15:32Speaker 4: Bible study and I ball like I never did before.
- 1:15:37Speaker 4: And I would shock the celebrities that was calling me
- 1:15:41Speaker 4: that had my personal number when I got off the
- 1:15:44Speaker 4: phone that was calling me on like are you okay you?
- 1:15:47Speaker 4: And one of them suggested that I go see somebody
- 1:15:50Speaker 4: that recommend some one and when they saw that one
- 1:15:52Speaker 4: for me to heal. So there's a lot of things
- 1:15:54Speaker 4: that I did in my life and and one of
- 1:15:57Speaker 4: one of the biggest things that I've done in my
- 1:16:00Speaker 4: complete successful life before medic into your billy.
- 1:16:03Speaker 3: Okay, but.
- 1:16:05Speaker 4: That housewife thing I was in, I was I was
- 1:16:09Speaker 4: in target yesterday. I'm not supposed to go to Target boycott,
- 1:16:12Speaker 4: but I.
- 1:16:13Speaker 3: Was in Target yesterday.
- 1:16:15Speaker 4: And when I was in Target yesterday, you know there's
- 1:16:17Speaker 4: Steet gay guys like, oh my god, Peter, and you know,
- 1:16:22Speaker 4: they ran up on me, you know what I'm saying.
- 1:16:24Speaker 4: And they were saying, oh, we just watched you last week,
- 1:16:26Speaker 4: and I'm looking at you that I haven't done that
- 1:16:28Speaker 4: show in five six years.
- 1:16:29Speaker 3: Are you watched me last week? And I guess it's
- 1:16:33Speaker 3: reruns that they're watching them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So so
- 1:16:38Speaker 3: it's it's like it never it never. I remember seeing
- 1:16:44Speaker 3: you in front of the.
- 1:16:45Speaker 4: Camera when you was hosting The Housewife, you help hosting
- 1:16:49Speaker 4: reunion shows, I think for your yeah and stuff like that.
- 1:16:52Speaker 4: I said, yeah, yeah, I'm so glad he's in front
- 1:16:54Speaker 4: of the camera now. That black motherfucker gotta know what
- 1:16:58Speaker 4: it feels like front down and for people to know
- 1:17:02Speaker 4: who you are exactly right, Yeah, Okay, life changed in Yeah.
- 1:17:09Speaker 4: Let it's a lot of negative negative now you can't
- 1:17:13Speaker 4: hide anymore, no matter what you do, you can't hide anymore, right, yeah.
- 1:17:19Speaker 4: So so and then I got for the next five
- 1:17:21Speaker 4: years before it really took off, before she really start
- 1:17:24Speaker 4: making some money after year or four because you know
- 1:17:27Speaker 4: they paid us nothing the first year. Okay, nothing first
- 1:17:30Speaker 4: year or second year or third year. By fourth year
- 1:17:32Speaker 4: you start making some money. And but by fourth year
- 1:17:36Speaker 4: I was a bumm to everybody that watched that show.
- 1:17:39Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, because she sent to Bailly.
- 1:17:41Speaker 4: They didn't know about Peter Thomas, that was in the
- 1:17:44Speaker 4: music industry that was successful. I executive produced the Source
- 1:17:48Speaker 4: Awards on upn Okay Uh Run with Russell and leor
- 1:17:54Speaker 4: Okay at death Jam, largest music conference, hip hop conference
- 1:17:58Speaker 4: in the world I've ever seen to date, you know
- 1:18:01Speaker 4: what I'm saying, and have done a lot of amazing things.
- 1:18:03Speaker 4: They didn't know that Peter Thomas. They'll went by what
- 1:18:08Speaker 4: was what unscripted, but what the message was, Oh he's
- 1:18:12Speaker 4: living off.
- 1:18:13Speaker 3: His supermodel wife, and is that something that affected you?
- 1:18:16Speaker 2: Of course it affected people knew that it affected you,
- 1:18:20Speaker 2: that you one thing Cordell said. And I interview Porsche
- 1:18:23Speaker 2: recently and I said, I remember Cordell saying I'm a
- 1:18:26Speaker 2: Heisman Trophy winner.
- 1:18:27Speaker 1: He probably said this to you. I think in a
- 1:18:29Speaker 1: scene I talked.
- 1:18:31Speaker 3: Him into doing the scene because you wouldn't have done it, I.
- 1:18:33Speaker 2: Know thanks to you, yo, No, no, I was there.
- 1:18:36Speaker 2: You made it happen for sure. But I remember him
- 1:18:39Speaker 2: saying it was additude.
- 1:18:40Speaker 1: I believe to you.
- 1:18:41Speaker 2: He said, I'm a Heisman Trophy winner. And when people
- 1:18:46Speaker 2: see me now, they said, aren't you Porsche's ex husband exactly?
- 1:18:50Speaker 4: And he felt he was reduced. It was reduced, and
- 1:18:53Speaker 4: so you felt that way. I felt reduced, You felt reduced. Okay,
- 1:18:56Speaker 4: they didn't know. People in the music industry was shot
- 1:18:59Speaker 4: that I even done it. But the only reason why
- 1:19:01Speaker 4: I did that show because I didn't even know anything
- 1:19:03Speaker 4: about the show when Sassil Jester told me about it.
- 1:19:06Speaker 4: Sachel that used to work for me, is the one
- 1:19:08Speaker 4: who introduced us to it, right, okay, And to me,
- 1:19:12Speaker 4: like I could see the depression when Macy's headquarters in
- 1:19:17Speaker 4: Miami closed. Macy's, that was her number one ticket when
- 1:19:24Speaker 4: she was modeling start closing different location that they used
- 1:19:29Speaker 4: to shoot for printer at the production company. The one
- 1:19:31Speaker 4: in Miami had closed, and that was the biggest back then,
- 1:19:34Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So, and then she used
- 1:19:36Speaker 4: to go to Dallas for J. C. Penny's, you know
- 1:19:38Speaker 4: what I'm saying. And I'm like, oh shit, she's coming
- 1:19:40Speaker 4: to the tailor in her career. The only reason why
- 1:19:43Speaker 4: I said, yo, let's do it because I saw the
- 1:19:46Speaker 4: vision that it was gonna blow up and it was
- 1:19:49Speaker 4: gonna be a good thing for her.
- 1:19:50Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
- 1:19:52Speaker 1: Yeah, are you surprised that she is still a part
- 1:19:56Speaker 1: of the show.
- 1:19:57Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:19:57Speaker 4: She don't know how to let go of shit like that.
- 1:20:00Speaker 4: She counts her pennies. Come on, you know, Centia?
- 1:20:03Speaker 6: Oh you know?
- 1:20:04Speaker 3: And I live yeah, And I don't blame.
- 1:20:07Speaker 2: Her, no, but but my point is, let's be real.
- 1:20:10Speaker 2: Everyone counted her out when you and her divorce and
- 1:20:13Speaker 2: with her Nini friendship, and they all say without Peter
- 1:20:16Speaker 2: and Nini or nothing. So I will say, I am
- 1:20:20Speaker 2: proud that she is showing people she can stand on
- 1:20:22Speaker 2: her on two feet.
- 1:20:23Speaker 3: Are you no, she is, I know, But I am proud.
- 1:20:27Speaker 4: Okay, I am proud. Proud, Yes, I am proud. I
- 1:20:30Speaker 4: don't I don't watch the show. I don't, you know,
- 1:20:33Speaker 4: but when I see clips from it, okay, because I
- 1:20:36Speaker 4: see clips on my Instagram all the time and feed
- 1:20:39Speaker 4: on Facebook, and I'm looking at him like, oh shit,
- 1:20:43Speaker 4: nigga know how to talk now? She know how to
- 1:20:46Speaker 4: stand up for herself. Now that shit is dope. No,
- 1:20:48Speaker 4: she's but you know, like, what's this your year two
- 1:20:51Speaker 4: thousand and nine and win twenty twenty six, come one
- 1:20:54Speaker 4: years later.
- 1:20:55Speaker 1: Years she's doing an amazing job. So look, there are
- 1:20:58Speaker 1: rumors that you and top To are doing a reality
- 1:21:01Speaker 1: show together.
- 1:21:02Speaker 3: Oh wow, is that true? Okay?
- 1:21:04Speaker 4: Now, I did an interview with Michelle Brown Brown and
- 1:21:11Speaker 4: Todd that told me that he wanted to do something
- 1:21:13Speaker 4: with the guys.
- 1:21:14Speaker 3: And when I was on it, okay, because Michelle is
- 1:21:16Speaker 3: a friend of mine.
- 1:21:17Speaker 4: So I was laying in my bed in the halfway house,
- 1:21:21Speaker 4: all right, and it's still person, by the way, half
- 1:21:24Speaker 4: a house is person. And when I was laying in
- 1:21:27Speaker 4: my bed and doing an interview, I said, yo me
- 1:21:29Speaker 4: and Todd. Todd said, she says it true that the
- 1:21:31Speaker 4: romance said.
- 1:21:32Speaker 3: Yeah, it is.
- 1:21:33Speaker 4: He can't do anything with the husband without me. I'm asked,
- 1:21:37Speaker 4: Carlos Kenny, I'm that guy. I'm the number one guy.
- 1:21:41Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. So with saying that, you know,
- 1:21:44Speaker 4: I got in trouble. They took my phone away from
- 1:21:46Speaker 4: me and gave me an extra thirty days. Took my
- 1:21:51Speaker 4: phone away from me. Okay, said that a win, a
- 1:21:56Speaker 4: win against BOP policy. And the day I was supposed
- 1:22:02Speaker 4: to leave, that had me down there for three hours.
- 1:22:06Speaker 4: And then they called me upstairs and said, hey, you're
- 1:22:08Speaker 4: not going on today and give us your phone.
- 1:22:10Speaker 3: I'm like, well, am I giving your phone? My phone? Oh?
- 1:22:13Speaker 4: Use on social media and over eighty thousand people saw
- 1:22:16Speaker 4: what you was talking about and go against our policy.
- 1:22:19Speaker 3: So took my phone.
- 1:22:21Speaker 4: No, no privilege, no visitation, okay, can't can't order Huberates,
- 1:22:28Speaker 4: which really hurt.
- 1:22:30Speaker 3: There's the food in there sucks. You know what I'm saying.
- 1:22:33Speaker 4: All right, So I was on punishment punishment, you know
- 1:22:36Speaker 4: what I'm saying because I did that thing for Michelle
- 1:22:39Speaker 4: talking about the Todd talk of stuff.
- 1:22:42Speaker 3: Yeah not Todd. Haven't presented me with anything to say
- 1:22:46Speaker 3: that the show is goinging forward.
- 1:22:48Speaker 1: Signed the deal.
- 1:22:49Speaker 3: No, I haven't signed a deal yet. Yeah, yeah, definitely.
- 1:22:53Speaker 4: And he already started shooting something because I did the
- 1:22:55Speaker 4: scene with him on the phone.
- 1:22:59Speaker 3: I don't know what his call, but.
- 1:23:01Speaker 4: I know he's shooting something, and he asked me to
- 1:23:03Speaker 4: jump in on a phone call, you know, because he
- 1:23:06Speaker 4: was hooking up with another guy. Okay, I can't. I
- 1:23:09Speaker 4: can't talk about it because I promise him I wouldn't,
- 1:23:11Speaker 4: you know. But this, I know that he reached out
- 1:23:17Speaker 4: to apollow. I don't know if apollow is a part
- 1:23:19Speaker 4: of it because I gonna speak to a follow and
- 1:23:20Speaker 4: I like that, you know, so, but I know something
- 1:23:24Speaker 4: is in the works and gets to look what Todd,
- 1:23:26Speaker 4: Todd want you some some some stuff. Also, you know
- 1:23:30Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Uh, Keny mother wasn't easy on Todd,
- 1:23:35Speaker 4: you know, and that's before he got married, so he
- 1:23:40Speaker 4: ship like that.
- 1:23:41Speaker 3: Just don't go away. You know what I'm saying. It
- 1:23:43Speaker 3: messed with your mental I.
- 1:23:44Speaker 2: Was gonna say, I think I think what I'm hearing
- 1:23:46Speaker 2: today because you know, obviously the reality.
- 1:23:49Speaker 1: World is really built around women.
- 1:23:51Speaker 2: But what I am hearing today that I hope people
- 1:23:53Speaker 2: do walk away from is just as tough it is
- 1:23:57Speaker 2: mental health wise for the women dealing with like what
- 1:23:59Speaker 2: they go through on the shows and you know, the
- 1:24:01Speaker 2: comments and all that stuff. I think what I'm hearing
- 1:24:04Speaker 2: right now is the stuff that men go through as well,
- 1:24:07Speaker 2: is just as tough as you. Guys Like I actually
- 1:24:10Speaker 2: do receive that because I don't think people look I
- 1:24:13Speaker 2: think when people see the guys because y'all.
- 1:24:17Speaker 1: Have such a relaxed relationship with the audience. You know,
- 1:24:25Speaker 1: y'all don't crash on Twitter. Y'all don't read each other,
- 1:24:28Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
- 1:24:29Speaker 3: You know what I'm like, Men, we don't do that. Yeah,
- 1:24:33Speaker 3: but that doesn't mean that it doesn't affect us. Exactly
- 1:24:36Speaker 3: what affects us is for.
- 1:24:38Speaker 4: People think that you're bumming your low life and you're
- 1:24:40Speaker 4: not about nothing. There's nothing bumming low life about me
- 1:24:44Speaker 4: or Todd, you know what I'm saying, and using them
- 1:24:47Speaker 4: as a recent person. You know, I didn't make a thing.
- 1:24:51Speaker 4: I didn't ask CENTI full to pay me, you know
- 1:24:55Speaker 4: what I'm saying, or doing the divorce, I didn't ask
- 1:24:58Speaker 4: for no money from her. You know what I'm saying.
- 1:25:00Speaker 4: Let's walk away with her sanity. You know what I'm saying, Uh,
- 1:25:04Speaker 4: and and live your life. You know, like I'm happy
- 1:25:08Speaker 4: for her. She got remarried. I was happy for her,
- 1:25:11Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. She got divorced something like
- 1:25:15Speaker 4: I was sad you know the only last two years.
- 1:25:17Speaker 4: That's crazy, you know what I'm saying. And now she
- 1:25:20Speaker 4: got another boyfriend.
- 1:25:21Speaker 3: I'm like, Hey, I was gonna say something, but it
- 1:25:25Speaker 3: would have been too funny. It was crazy hold on
- 1:25:29Speaker 3: to that.
- 1:25:30Speaker 1: Dating people thirty years younger.
- 1:25:32Speaker 3: Oh wow, I didn't even know that. I thought when
- 1:25:35Speaker 3: I first saw the clipping, the guy thought it was
- 1:25:36Speaker 3: bougie bonta, and I'm like, oh ship, since it just one, I.
- 1:25:41Speaker 1: Could be wrong speaking of one. I wanted to get
- 1:25:44Speaker 1: to do somebody really quickly.
- 1:25:46Speaker 2: Okay, absolutely so rain drows giving up for Peter's new
- 1:25:51Speaker 2: girlfriend exclusively on Reality with the King.
- 1:25:54Speaker 4: Okay, before you bring her out, I'm gonna say something people,
- 1:25:57Speaker 4: because you guys have so much ship to say. Please
- 1:26:00Speaker 4: don't say it to me because we're gonna have a problem,
- 1:26:03Speaker 4: all right.
- 1:26:03Speaker 3: Another thing is that.
- 1:26:06Speaker 4: When nobody was there for me, the only person that
- 1:26:10Speaker 4: drove four hours to come and visit me, for us
- 1:26:13Speaker 4: to go back and help me keep my sanity in
- 1:26:16Speaker 4: that that prison. Okay, even though it was a camp,
- 1:26:19Speaker 4: it's still when you can't leave. It's not like yo, guys,
- 1:26:22Speaker 4: I see you.
- 1:26:22Speaker 3: Later and go home. There was this woman, okay, all right,
- 1:26:26Speaker 3: and she might be younger than me, but she is
- 1:26:29Speaker 3: a woman.
- 1:26:29Speaker 4: Yes, okay, all right, And if my daughter's okay with it,
- 1:26:33Speaker 4: then I couldn't give a two focks what the rest
- 1:26:36Speaker 4: of the world think about it.
- 1:26:38Speaker 2: She's over thirty, so it's all good giving up for
- 1:26:40Speaker 2: the beautiful Alex.
- 1:26:46Speaker 1: So his laugh, I mean, is that okay, Peter?
- 1:26:49Speaker 3: That's fine. She could send my lap any day of
- 1:26:52Speaker 3: the week.
- 1:26:53Speaker 6: There you go, put my cl sir, Thank you doll.
- 1:27:03Speaker 1: I'm not really that natural beauty is the best beauty.
- 1:27:08Speaker 1: Why are you're dating?
- 1:27:09Speaker 3: Peter?
- 1:27:09Speaker 1: Thomas said why a while?
- 1:27:12Speaker 7: Why? I mean, it's not even about who he is, honestly,
- 1:27:17Speaker 7: I mean, for me, it's more so it's the character
- 1:27:21Speaker 7: opposed to his name, you know what I mean. He's
- 1:27:23Speaker 7: not the first high profile person I've been with, so
- 1:27:26Speaker 7: it's not.
- 1:27:29Speaker 4: Me.
- 1:27:31Speaker 1: Who's the first high profile? Got you dated?
- 1:27:33Speaker 7: When I was twenty, I used to date Jacoby Jones
- 1:27:39Speaker 7: that played for the Baltimore Ravens.
- 1:27:41Speaker 6: I guess, like the late Jacoby Jones now yet year ago?
- 1:27:48Speaker 1: Who after Helle?
- 1:27:49Speaker 4: Not? Who?
- 1:27:51Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 1:27:51Speaker 2: No?
- 1:27:52Speaker 7: No, honestly anybody else who was just like I met
- 1:27:56Speaker 7: people but never actually like dated or nothing personal.
- 1:27:59Speaker 1: How did y'all meet you May and.
- 1:28:01Speaker 6: Miami at a day party?
- 1:28:03Speaker 3: Yeah? Okay?
- 1:28:06Speaker 4: On April sixth, April six, twenty four, yeah, yes, and
- 1:28:11Speaker 4: he approached. You know, we looked at each other across
- 1:28:14Speaker 4: the way and I looked at it and I said,
- 1:28:16Speaker 4: you're beautiful, and she said thank you. And she was
- 1:28:18Speaker 4: with her friends and she was dancing. And then I
- 1:28:22Speaker 4: kept on looking over there and she's looking back and
- 1:28:25Speaker 4: I did. My friends was with me, Louke Tuckle was
- 1:28:27Speaker 4: with me, and I'm like, and she came over and like,
- 1:28:34Speaker 4: twenty minutes.
- 1:28:34Speaker 3: Later one of these.
- 1:28:40Speaker 1: Here and you said, I'm.
- 1:28:43Speaker 3: We were holding hands twenty minutes later. Did you know?
- 1:28:46Speaker 7: He was not until after the fact, And so I
- 1:28:49Speaker 7: walked away from him, and my friends was like, that's Peter.
- 1:28:52Speaker 7: And I'm like what because to me, I'm like, it
- 1:28:55Speaker 7: was more like a chemistry thing, you know what I mean.
- 1:28:59Speaker 7: It's like in the club loud music is dark, you know.
- 1:29:03Speaker 7: And then once I walked away, like that's Peter, I'm
- 1:29:06Speaker 7: like Peter. They're like house likes Peter. I was like,
- 1:29:09Speaker 7: are you sure the like girl that's Peter.
- 1:29:12Speaker 6: And I'm like, oh, well, hey, we just had a
- 1:29:15Speaker 6: good time.
- 1:29:16Speaker 4: But you know what's so funny about that, because after
- 1:29:19Speaker 4: like forty five minutes of being in there, all right,
- 1:29:22Speaker 4: she said she had to leave and I'm like, okay,
- 1:29:25Speaker 4: all right, and then she leaned over.
- 1:29:27Speaker 3: And we kissed each other on the mount. My boys
- 1:29:30Speaker 3: went nuts, like, nigga, you just did that in public.
- 1:29:33Speaker 1: I kissed my person night.
- 1:29:34Speaker 3: We kissed on the first form. Yeah. She had a
- 1:29:38Speaker 3: glass of champagne and one hand and then shot gla
- 1:29:41Speaker 3: met me.
- 1:29:42Speaker 7: I only had a glass of champagne and a shot
- 1:29:44Speaker 7: of Raposato in the other hand. Okay.
- 1:29:46Speaker 6: So I was feeling good that night for sure.
- 1:29:49Speaker 3: But she left and I didn't have her number, and
- 1:29:52Speaker 3: she went outside.
- 1:29:52Speaker 4: She was going and I said we lived, and she
- 1:29:54Speaker 4: said I live in Sarasota, and I said, oh shit,
- 1:29:57Speaker 4: so I can't see her tomorrow.
- 1:29:58Speaker 3: So I just let it die.
- 1:30:00Speaker 4: And then my guy come back and say, yo, her
- 1:30:01Speaker 4: friend is talking so much that she's still outside. If
- 1:30:04Speaker 4: you want to get her number, So I went back,
- 1:30:07Speaker 4: I actually can have your number, and she gave me
- 1:30:08Speaker 4: her number. Okay, and that was it. She left off,
- 1:30:11Speaker 4: she went back to Sarasota. I think it's like I think,
- 1:30:15Speaker 4: I don't know. I remember it goes from them because
- 1:30:18Speaker 4: I think I called you the next day or the
- 1:30:20Speaker 4: day after something like that.
- 1:30:23Speaker 6: The next day just to make sure that I made
- 1:30:25Speaker 6: a home or gentle, are you in love? I am
- 1:30:29Speaker 6: your love?
- 1:30:30Speaker 3: Do you have kids? No?
- 1:30:32Speaker 6: Biological kids?
- 1:30:34Speaker 1: Do you want kids to Peter?
- 1:30:36Speaker 3: I feel like you got to ask Peter that there
- 1:30:38Speaker 3: you're going to ask her?
- 1:30:39Speaker 1: That you what I mean? Because to her body, her choice.
- 1:30:45Speaker 3: Yeah, my body might choice.
- 1:30:50Speaker 6: Maybe, like.
- 1:30:54Speaker 3: He's not asking Peter if Peter wants to.
- 1:30:56Speaker 1: Ok well, let me ask you. Do you want to
- 1:30:59Speaker 1: Do you want to have kids?
- 1:31:01Speaker 7: I'm one for one for out?
- 1:31:03Speaker 1: Okay, that's fair. Would you want to have more kids?
- 1:31:07Speaker 4: No, that's a lot of work, okay, but if it happened,
- 1:31:10Speaker 4: I'm for it. Well, I'm not looking for to Are
- 1:31:13Speaker 4: you guys using protection?
- 1:31:16Speaker 3: No, we're not. Well.
- 1:31:18Speaker 1: So what do you mean so your bet so?
- 1:31:21Speaker 3: But only God could make that call.
- 1:31:24Speaker 1: You're not doing anything to prevent it, though, but only.
- 1:31:27Speaker 3: God could make that call.
- 1:31:29Speaker 2: She's in her thirties, she's a furtive woman. So Alex,
- 1:31:36Speaker 2: listen what it's all said and done. What would you
- 1:31:39Speaker 2: like the world to know about Peter Thomas?
- 1:31:42Speaker 1: That they may not know or they may have misconstrued.
- 1:31:47Speaker 6: What I would like the.
- 1:31:48Speaker 7: World to know about mister Peter Thomas is that he
- 1:31:53Speaker 7: does have a heart of gold. He's had his fair share,
- 1:31:58Speaker 7: like everyone has not in the best decisions. But I
- 1:32:02Speaker 7: feel like that's what builds your character, you know, And.
- 1:32:07Speaker 6: He comes off hard.
- 1:32:08Speaker 7: It comes off this you know everybody, No, you're not
- 1:32:14Speaker 7: soft and not soft at all. I feel like it's
- 1:32:18Speaker 7: very circumstantial to where it's just like.
- 1:32:21Speaker 6: If you do right by you, you'll do right by
- 1:32:23Speaker 6: other people.
- 1:32:24Speaker 1: And so it's like.
- 1:32:27Speaker 7: It's a lot of misconception. I feel like as far
- 1:32:30Speaker 7: as like who he actually is as a person, but
- 1:32:34Speaker 7: I feel like as a whole, you have to know
- 1:32:36Speaker 7: that he's a solid a person ten percent, you know.
- 1:32:40Speaker 6: I feel like he.
- 1:32:42Speaker 7: Hasn't actually had the chance to be that genuine person
- 1:32:46Speaker 7: that he actually is because he has to have that
- 1:32:50Speaker 7: difference mechanism, because I mean, he's a.
- 1:32:53Speaker 1: Man's a man, you know, and we know you know
- 1:32:55Speaker 1: how to fight. And we saw you fight on the
- 1:32:58Speaker 1: podcast studio and that was because was fighting, Peter.
- 1:33:04Speaker 6: No, not not even.
- 1:33:08Speaker 1: We had a little tip.
- 1:33:11Speaker 7: Because the woman got disrespectful.
- 1:33:15Speaker 1: That's why you let up to that.
- 1:33:17Speaker 3: The girl said that I dated someone that she's related to.
- 1:33:20Speaker 4: I don't.
- 1:33:21Speaker 3: I have never in my life. And his honor exactly.
- 1:33:25Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm more so like, hey, you know that's between
- 1:33:29Speaker 7: him and God. If he's doing something behind my back,
- 1:33:33Speaker 7: was was.
- 1:33:33Speaker 6: Done in the dark.
- 1:33:34Speaker 3: Always come tonight, you know what I mean?
- 1:33:36Speaker 6: Always?
- 1:33:37Speaker 7: So I'm not about to sit up here and be like,
- 1:33:39Speaker 7: what what happened? And because I felt like because I
- 1:33:42Speaker 7: wasn't giving her the reaction that she wanted, she kept
- 1:33:46Speaker 7: trying to poke them. And then when it came to
- 1:33:49Speaker 7: the point to where she started calling me out of
- 1:33:51Speaker 7: my name, that's when I'm like, oh, okay, I'm gonna
- 1:33:54Speaker 7: have to really.
- 1:33:58Speaker 6: Fighting over Peter Thomas. Don't have to fight over something
- 1:34:01Speaker 6: I already have.
- 1:34:02Speaker 2: That's crazy, all right, Well, look I like her, by
- 1:34:06Speaker 2: the way, Look y'all even matching giving me it wasn't
- 1:34:09Speaker 2: a plan either.
- 1:34:10Speaker 1: What's your signs?
- 1:34:13Speaker 6: Oh may Ooh.
- 1:34:18Speaker 1: Spicy, she's spicy, she's a bull.
- 1:34:21Speaker 3: Yes.
- 1:34:21Speaker 1: Well, look, Peter, I will say this.
- 1:34:23Speaker 2: I am happy that you're out. I'm happy that mentally
- 1:34:28Speaker 2: you're doing good. You have a beautiful woman on your lap.
- 1:34:32Speaker 1: Take care of my guy. Okay. You know, does your
- 1:34:37Speaker 1: father like him?
- 1:34:38Speaker 6: He does? They actually met. He's not my dad?
- 1:34:42Speaker 1: Are they the same age?
- 1:34:43Speaker 4: No?
- 1:34:45Speaker 7: Younger?
- 1:34:45Speaker 1: Your dad's younger. But as in his fifties, and he
- 1:34:50Speaker 1: approves of it.
- 1:34:50Speaker 6: This I mean, he knows me, you know what I mean.
- 1:34:53Speaker 7: I'm a very like wise woman, Like I'm thirty two,
- 1:34:57Speaker 7: but I have the mind of like a sixty year
- 1:34:59Speaker 7: old woman.
- 1:35:00Speaker 3: She's old school.
- 1:35:02Speaker 6: I'm me teaching him, you know, which is a balance, moderation.
- 1:35:09Speaker 1: I know it's October October second, but all of the side. Yeah.
- 1:35:15Speaker 1: So that's my twin brother. I love him, Pete. I'm
- 1:35:16Speaker 1: proud of you. Keeping your thing, brother, keep your thing.
- 1:35:20Speaker 1: And Alex keep him honest and say all right, we'll
- 1:35:26Speaker 1: see you guy in the next one.
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