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Best Of Full Interview: Stephanie Ike Okafor Talks 'The Power Of Your Dreams,' Encountering God, Morality, Deja Vu +More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The breakfast Club. Morning,
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  Speaker 1: everybody in CJ n.
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  Speaker 2: V Jess hilarious, Charlamagne the guy. We are the breakfast Club. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: it's our maternity leave. So Laura la Ross is feeling
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  Speaker 2: in and we got a special guest in the building.
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  Speaker 2: We have passed the Stephanie E. K okafor did I
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  Speaker 2: say it right?
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  Speaker 3: You said it good?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, thank you so much, welcome.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Cool to be here.
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  Speaker 3: I feel good.
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  Speaker 1: You related to the basketball player?
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  Speaker 4: No, okay, okay, got you, got you, got you, got you?
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  Speaker 4: You got a new book out not a power of
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  Speaker 4: your dreams. Yeah, I love a good dream book. I'm
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  Speaker 4: the type of person that I keep dream books by
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  Speaker 4: my bedside. When I wake up, I can look and
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  Speaker 4: see what certain things mean that will got you into
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  Speaker 4: wanting to write this book.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 5: So, I encountered God when I was nine years old,
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  Speaker 5: and one of the ways that was so consistent was
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  Speaker 5: that He will speak to me through dreams. And it's
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  Speaker 5: interesting when you talk about, you know, using like having
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  Speaker 5: books that tell you about symbols and things like that,
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  Speaker 5: because I think one of the reasons why maybe sometimes
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  Speaker 5: people don't even understand the fullness of their dream is
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  Speaker 5: because they pick it apart, and the whole dream is
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  Speaker 5: telling the message. So if you only pick it apart,
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  Speaker 5: you may not understand the fullness of it. But dreams
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  Speaker 5: has been so consistent for me ever since nine years old.
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  Speaker 4: That is a great point because I never look at
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  Speaker 4: the whole totality of my dream.
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  Speaker 1: I find like one thing that that stood out.
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  Speaker 5: It's like a web MD of dreams where people like
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  Speaker 5: get books or go on Google and you're like, you
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  Speaker 5: only look at one thing. And that's one of the
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  Speaker 5: things I talk about in the book, where you have
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  Speaker 5: to look at it like a whole story and to
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  Speaker 5: understand in each symbol to tell the you know, kind
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  Speaker 5: of like tell what is the dreams really saying?
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  Speaker 2: That you said you had an account with God at
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  Speaker 2: the age of nine, Yeah, what was that encounter? What
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  Speaker 2: did he say? What was that conversation? What just enlightened
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  Speaker 2: us with what it was?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: So my father was murdered when I was eight months old,
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  Speaker 5: and so I grew up with like a lot of anger.
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  Speaker 5: And there was one day that you know, my mom
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  Speaker 5: was looking for this document and I was just like
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  Speaker 5: it was something that she really needed. You know for
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  Speaker 5: the times that we were in and I was like, man, God,
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  Speaker 5: you know, if you didn't take my father, it was
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  Speaker 5: just another reason why I got angry again. But that
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  Speaker 5: day literally like, I remember being in my room and
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  Speaker 5: I could feel like a presence in my room, but
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  Speaker 5: it wasn't scary. But then for a nine year old,
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  Speaker 5: it's like, bruh, who's in my room? You know? And
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  Speaker 5: I won't I go to my mom's room because I'm like,
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  Speaker 5: whatever is going on there, I don't want no part
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  Speaker 5: of it. So I got my mom's room. She's and
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  Speaker 5: she's up, she's in her bed. She's like, what are
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  Speaker 5: you doing. I was like, oh, and I just want to,
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  Speaker 5: you know, sleep, sleep in your room. She's like, okay,
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  Speaker 5: hop in. So the moment I hop in her bed,
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  Speaker 5: she's out cold, like not moving, not responding, and I
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  Speaker 5: feel the same presence again in her room. And I
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  Speaker 5: didn't really believe in God at that age, but my
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  Speaker 5: mom has always been a strong believer, and so I
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  Speaker 5: didn't even know. Now I knew it was the Holy Spirit,
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  Speaker 5: then I didn't realize what made me ask the question.
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  Speaker 5: And I was like, God, if this is of you?
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  Speaker 5: Because I was thinking Okay, if this is my mom's God,
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  Speaker 5: he can't harm me. I'm like, if this is of you,
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  Speaker 5: cause win to flow through my ankles, and they were
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  Speaker 5: out of nowhere.
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  Speaker 3: The windows are not open. Nothing there was.
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  Speaker 5: Like this wind that just flows through me. Because with
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  Speaker 5: my eyes closed, I could see a man sitting but
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  Speaker 5: his home makeup was like light. So then I removed
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  Speaker 5: like the covers of my eyes and I see him
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  Speaker 5: with my eyes open, sitting there and he gets up.
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  Speaker 5: He walks over to my mom and I start asking
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  Speaker 5: him questions because I thought it was God.
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, where were you with my dad?
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  Speaker 1: Dad?
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  Speaker 3: Did da da da da?
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  Speaker 5: And he starts saying something. I had no clue what
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  Speaker 5: he was saying. He walks over to my mom. He
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  Speaker 5: opens her hand, he puts like this piece of paper
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  Speaker 5: in her hand, closes, it disappears. So when that happened,
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  Speaker 5: my mom gets up and I was like, Mom, so
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  Speaker 5: I opened her hand, there's nothing there.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, Mom, like this just happened. Da da da
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  Speaker 3: da dah.
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  Speaker 5: She was like, Stephanie, I thought it was God. I
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  Speaker 5: was like, God was in the room, and she's like,
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  Speaker 5: I don't think it works like that. So she goes
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  Speaker 5: back to bed. She's like, Stephanie, I think you're tripping.
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  Speaker 5: She wakes up that morning, her pastor calls her and
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  Speaker 5: he was like, Hey, I was in prayer and I
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  Speaker 5: just feel like to tell you that there was an
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  Speaker 5: angelic encounter in your home. But he didn't know to
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  Speaker 5: the degree of what he was even saying. And I
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  Speaker 5: was like, Mom, I'm telling you, this happened randomly. The
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  Speaker 5: document we had been literally ripping the whole house apart
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  Speaker 5: for just shows up on the table and then I'm like, wait,
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  Speaker 5: was that the document? Like was that what it symbolized?
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  Speaker 5: Like they put in our hand? And so I'm like,
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  Speaker 5: oh my gosh, I met God. And then I stood
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  Speaker 5: at hearing the voice of God and it was like, dude,
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  Speaker 5: that was not me. That was an angel. And then
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  Speaker 5: he starts describing to me who angels are, but then
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  Speaker 5: points me to read the Bible. I had never really
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  Speaker 5: read the Bible, tells me what scriptures to read.
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  Speaker 3: I could hear it so clearly.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm like, Mom, I need a Bible. I need
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  Speaker 5: like a study a kid's Bible. And I'm like, so
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  Speaker 5: she's the one guiding me where to go to to
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  Speaker 5: read those scriptures, and I'm literally seen in the scripture
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  Speaker 5: when it talks about angels and X, Y and Z.
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  Speaker 5: And after that, it was like something just unlocked for
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  Speaker 5: me spiritually. I said that, hearing the voice of God,
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  Speaker 5: I will have encounters and dreams. Some dreams was like
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  Speaker 5: a very like no, just it didn't even need to
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  Speaker 5: be explained. The dream was literally like an encounter. And
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  Speaker 5: then some dreams were just like symbols that had hidden
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  Speaker 5: messages in it, and that became like my life ever since.
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  Speaker 3: Then.
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  Speaker 1: What did the angel look like?
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  Speaker 4: It looked like Homie from the Crossroads video.
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  Speaker 5: It was so he had like a he had a
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  Speaker 5: human form, but the only difference his home makeup was light.
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  Speaker 5: That was everything about him was like light radiating. So
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  Speaker 5: I couldn't even tell you what he how to describe
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  Speaker 5: his features because it was just light y.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 4: I just want to say I believe her because I've
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  Speaker 4: seen the same thing exactly like that.
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  Speaker 3: How old were you?
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  Speaker 1: I was actually old.
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  Speaker 4: That was in my teenage years, and I remember laying
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  Speaker 4: in the bed sleeping and I thought I was dreaming,
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  Speaker 4: and it looked like my bedroom door burst it open.
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  Speaker 4: And when it bursted open, it was just this figure
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  Speaker 4: that was light. Yeah, it had a human form. I
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  Speaker 4: couldn't see, but it had a human form, but it
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  Speaker 4: was just light.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. What happened after that?
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  Speaker 2: You seeing aliens? To an alien came and got them too.
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  Speaker 5: I could tell you stories as we called them aliens,
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  Speaker 5: but they're really just monic spirits.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I believe aliens shot him in the lake.
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  Speaker 4: Tell the story that we're having a real conversation about God,
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  Speaker 4: but he would try to interduce you.
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  Speaker 6: She said that, like when she confirmed that you probably
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  Speaker 6: saw demonic it just I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: It sits well with.
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  Speaker 5: Me, Like yeah, because angels really come in a way
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  Speaker 5: that their their presence, their essence is so radiating. But
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  Speaker 5: then they're also you can also have encounters with demonic spirits.
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  Speaker 3: That's also fair. I've had. I could tell too many stories.
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  Speaker 2: Is it a mission that you feel like from seeing
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  Speaker 2: that and from having those conversations, do you feel like
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  Speaker 2: you were sent on a mission to do something? And
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  Speaker 2: do you know what that mission is?
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  Speaker 5: If so, I think not even I think everyone has
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  Speaker 5: their angels assigned to everyone on this earth. Like life
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  Speaker 5: is not just physical, it is it's actually more spiritual
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  Speaker 5: than physical. I think the difference is that there are
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  Speaker 5: times that you know, based on how God is working
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  Speaker 5: with someone, that he might open your eyes to see
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  Speaker 5: things at a younger age, and if you're not scared
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  Speaker 5: of it, if you don't run from it, and even
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  Speaker 5: if you do, you can always come back to the
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  Speaker 5: place where you're like, God, maybe I was scared, but
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  Speaker 5: show me again. And I believe that part of my
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  Speaker 5: calling even on Earth, is really to awaken people to
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  Speaker 5: the supernatural because it governs everything that we do in
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  Speaker 5: the natural realm. I was going to say, like, for you,
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  Speaker 5: it was a lot more clear, but like I've had
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  Speaker 5: like not encounters or I saw something, but where things
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  Speaker 5: have happened, I'm like, that's nothing but God, and I'll
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  Speaker 5: be like, God, do it again, so I know that
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  Speaker 5: this is like the thing, and then He'll do it again.
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  Speaker 5: So I myself, I'm always like, no, my faith is
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  Speaker 5: strong because He's talked to me show But it took
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  Speaker 5: a couple of times. Some people think they're hearing things,
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  Speaker 5: but it might not be clear that is God to them.
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  Speaker 5: How do you coach people through being able to let
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  Speaker 5: that voice break through and understanding it is God. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I think One of the key things is from this
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  Speaker 5: the fun fundational element of it. Right, you don't need
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  Speaker 5: to read the Bible for God to speak to you,
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  Speaker 5: but you need to have an understanding of His voice
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  Speaker 5: in the Bible so that you're not deceived by the
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  Speaker 5: voices you hear. And so when you have a good
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  Speaker 5: foundation of knowing the voice of God, even in his word,
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  Speaker 5: then when you begin to hear him or you see
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  Speaker 5: things in the book. One of the things I talk about,
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  Speaker 5: even before I get into the subject of dreams, are
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  Speaker 5: the different ways we experience God's voice.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the four primary way.
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  Speaker 5: So there are some people who they are feelers, right,
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  Speaker 5: they can you know, God has emotions. The Bible talks
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  Speaker 5: about so many types of emotions. Peace, you know, love, anger,
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  Speaker 5: all these things. So there are people that you might
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  Speaker 5: walk into a room there's a deal on the table
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  Speaker 5: for you, everything checks off, But then you don't. You're
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  Speaker 5: not at peace with this. Something is like messing up
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  Speaker 5: with you, Like, I don't think this is for me.
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  Speaker 5: The problem is that if we don't have a god
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  Speaker 5: consciousness about life, we think it's us feeling that way.
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  Speaker 5: But the Lord is trying to share his emotions with you. Like, hey,
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  Speaker 5: I'm not in that. You know, it might look good
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  Speaker 5: on paper, but I'm not in that. So those are
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  Speaker 5: people that feel. There are people that know. There's some
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  Speaker 5: people that just have an instinctive knowing, and for many
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  Speaker 5: that is more heightened when you're a kid like you
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  Speaker 5: and meet a child and you're like, what do you
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  Speaker 5: want to be? You know, sometimes they just say random stuff,
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  Speaker 5: but they're kids that just know what they want to
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  Speaker 5: be and it has nothing connected to their parents, like
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  Speaker 5: their family members were never in that field of work.
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  Speaker 5: But they see something, they're exposed to something, and they
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  Speaker 5: just have a knowing. Wait, I'm supposed to be in
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  Speaker 5: this field. I'm supposed to do this. I'm supposed to
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  Speaker 5: be an actress. And it's just this instinctive knowing. Because
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  Speaker 5: there's a beauty with being a child, there's not. Your
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  Speaker 5: intelligence is not in the way the older we get
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  Speaker 5: our wisdom blocks us from discerning the voice of God
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  Speaker 5: because we're trying to you know, I'll think it. We're
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  Speaker 5: overthinking it, rather like where did this come from? Where
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  Speaker 5: did that come from? And then there's the hearers. There
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  Speaker 5: are people who you know audibly, it's more rare to
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  Speaker 5: hear the voice of God audibly now, but you can
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  Speaker 5: also he also speaks in a form of So there
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  Speaker 5: are these distinctive thoughts or series of thoughts that you
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  Speaker 5: would really like hear in your head. And it has
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  Speaker 5: nothing to do with how you would naturally think, how
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  Speaker 5: you would naturally like, you know, think about a matter.
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  Speaker 5: The same way that anxiety has a voice, you know,
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  Speaker 5: pain has a voice. The Lord also speaks to you
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  Speaker 5: through your thoughts and then they're seers. And that's where
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  Speaker 5: dreams come in.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 5: There are people where you're dreaming, you see visions. There's
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  Speaker 5: something called open visions where you might even be you
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  Speaker 5: feel as though you were somewhere and then you're back
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  Speaker 5: in your body, you know. But all these things are
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  Speaker 5: ways that we can experience the voice of God. But
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  Speaker 5: the foundation is if you don't know how he speaks
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  Speaker 5: in the Bible, then you can easily get deceived.
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  Speaker 2: So knowing, hearing, seeing and seeing, yes, So how do
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  Speaker 2: you break down some of those those dreams? Right? Could
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  Speaker 2: you talk about the power of your Dreamsah, I'm sure.
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  Speaker 2: Probably the biggest dream that people have, I'm sure is
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  Speaker 2: somebody falling. Yeah, and so what does that mean when
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  Speaker 2: somebody is falling or when you when people feel like
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  Speaker 2: they see somebody coming in from their past life.
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  Speaker 3: You said, passed like like a loved one who passed away.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like a loved one that passed away. You know what,
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  Speaker 2: For me, it's I remember when my my wife's father
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  Speaker 2: passed away, right, And it was the weirdest thing. We
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  Speaker 2: had balloons downstairs. Yeah, and it was her birthday, and
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  Speaker 2: my wife, out of nowhere, just started thinking about her dad.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know if this was whatever it was,
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  Speaker 2: but out of nowhere, like midnight one am, the balloons
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  Speaker 2: that were in the kitchen actually blew up the stairs
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  Speaker 2: and came into the bedroom.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: It freaked me the fuck out. Freaked me the fuck out.
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  Speaker 1: That helium balloons.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they were healing balloons. Yeah, of course they would
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  Speaker 2: rise even thinks.
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  Speaker 1: Up the stairs and.
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  Speaker 3: Experience with God.
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  Speaker 2: But it could have went to any one of the
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  Speaker 2: bedrooms in the house.
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  Speaker 1: It went right to the bench.
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  Speaker 5: That's why you're talking an alien shot him in the
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  Speaker 5: foot exactly.
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  Speaker 1: No, I believe I believe that was I believe that
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  Speaker 1: was it. I believe that was a sign. I believe
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  Speaker 1: that was him. I really do. I'm not doing this sound.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, no, but it was out of my house, out
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  Speaker 2: of any where those balloons could have went. And the
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  Speaker 2: fact that she was talking about her dad and crying
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  Speaker 2: for him several hours earlier just made me feel like them.
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  Speaker 2: There are signs and there are angels. So how do
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  Speaker 2: you you know, I guess, break down different dreams. What
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  Speaker 2: do the different dreams mean?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, So in the book I talk about just different
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  Speaker 5: types of dreams, because the key thing, even before you
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  Speaker 5: get into that, is to know why we dream, right God,
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  Speaker 5: I mean? And their dreams can come from different places.
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  Speaker 5: A dream can come from you, a dream can come
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  Speaker 5: from God. A dream can come from you know, the enemy.
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  Speaker 5: But when it comes from God. God has a desire
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  Speaker 5: to has a desire to speak to us more than
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  Speaker 5: we even desire to hear from him. Because regardless of
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  Speaker 5: where we find ourselves in life, regardless of how successful
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  Speaker 5: we perceive ourselves to be, regardless of all the things
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  Speaker 5: we have going on on, we are first His creation
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  Speaker 5: and there's something there. Your life is not random. He
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  Speaker 5: desires to do life with you, He desires.
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  Speaker 3: To partner with you.
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  Speaker 5: And so there are types of dreams like especially when
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  Speaker 5: people see their loved ones who had passed on. Those
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  Speaker 5: could be encouragement dreams. Now, how the dream is presented matters,
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  Speaker 5: because when someone passes away, they are they lose consciousness
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  Speaker 5: of the physical realm. But that does not mean that
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  Speaker 5: who they are, their essence is gone. Right, They're transitioning
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  Speaker 5: to a different life, you know, whether that's with the
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  Speaker 5: Lord or you know the opposite. Nobody wants that, but
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  Speaker 5: they're transitioning now to like an eternal life, you know,
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  Speaker 5: in the spiritual realm. But they don't technically have You
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  Speaker 5: can see them in dreams and most people.
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  Speaker 3: Would have, you know, these dreams.
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  Speaker 5: Where they don't speak, they just appear, They just show themselves, right,
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  Speaker 5: because those realms are now they're different realms, right, So
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  Speaker 5: you might see them in a dream, and the purpose
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  Speaker 5: of that dream is just the Lord trying to bring
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  Speaker 5: comfort to you and in purage you that, yes you
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  Speaker 5: don't have your loved one with you, but they're not
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  Speaker 5: fully absent, They're not fully just gone. You know who
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  Speaker 5: they are, the core of who they are, like their
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  Speaker 5: spirit man is still with him.
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  Speaker 2: What about the opposite side of that scale, the dream
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  Speaker 2: where you dream that you die.
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  Speaker 5: That is a dream that now that could be warning dreams.
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  Speaker 5: So we had this was president This was President Lincoln,
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  Speaker 5: I believe. So he had a dream right before he
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  Speaker 5: was assassinated. He literally had a warning dream. And in
• 14:31
  Speaker 5: the dream, he's walking, you know, through the White House
• 14:33
  Speaker 5: and he hears people mourning and he's like, hey, what's
• 14:36
  Speaker 5: going on? And somebody tells him in the dream the
• 14:39
  Speaker 5: president has been assassinated, and he's like wait what And
• 14:43
  Speaker 5: he's literally watching them mourn him, and he's like almost
• 14:47
  Speaker 5: like a funeral service. He wakes up. The problem is
• 14:50
  Speaker 5: he has that type of dream. So it's recorded that
• 14:53
  Speaker 5: he told people close to him the dream. But then
• 14:56
  Speaker 5: if no one understands, like, hey, regardless of who you are,
• 15:00
  Speaker 5: is still trying to get a message to you. If
• 15:02
  Speaker 5: he understood the weight of the dream, he would have
• 15:04
  Speaker 5: counseled every activity that was coming up. But he kept
• 15:08
  Speaker 5: his scheduleized normal and a few days after that he
• 15:10
  Speaker 5: was assassinated.
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: Doesn't that doesn't that, I guess the right word is
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: the gate. Doesn't that negate your faith in God? If
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: you do that, if somebody, if you have a dream
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: and something bad it's gonna happen to you, and then
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: you just automatically cancel everything.
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: It's like, where does God come in the plane.
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: So here's the thing.
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: You know, we have this thing where we say, like,
• 15:28
  Speaker 5: you know, is God in control of life and all
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: these things? Yes, But the Bible says, the earth has
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: he given to man? Now what that means is that
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: let me even go go back a little bit.
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: Even Jesus.
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: Right before Jesus could do what he was purpose to
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: do on earth, he had to come through a human
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: vessel in order to execute it. Now, this is God.
• 15:51
  Speaker 5: God is eternal, God is all powerful. He could have
• 15:54
  Speaker 5: just spoken and rewritten history. But in order for us
• 15:59
  Speaker 5: to be read, Jesus had to come through the flesh.
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: Why because the flesh gives you legal rights to.
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: Do things on earth.
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: So when we look at God, there's a reason why
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: God desires to partner with us. It's just like even
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: the reason we pray. You know, why would Jesus tell
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: us when you pray, not if you pray. The reason
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: we pray is because we're saying, hey, God, I'm in
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: agreement with what you're doing and you can do it
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: through me. The Bible also talks about that before God reveals,
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: Before God.
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: Does anything, he reveals.
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: It the Bible says to his servants, the prophets, it's
• 16:31
  Speaker 5: not even about people being prophets per se, but that
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: there is this prophetic stream that someone needs to be
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: aware of what God wants to do so that they
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: can partner with him in prayer. And so when God
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: reveals something to you in a dream, God doesn't speak
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: to gossip or just to be like, hey, heads up.
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: He speaks so that there is partnership. There is something
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: that needs to be counseled, there is something that needs
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: to change. I'll give you an example. I had a
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: dream one day and in the dream I saw a
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: calendar and on the calendarough there was a particular date
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: circled in red. And then in the dream, I hear
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: pray for your brother concerning that day. So I wake
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: up from the dream. My brother's in Chicago. He flips
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: properties in Chicago, and I tell him I was like, hey,
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: on this day, be really careful about your movements, right,
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: And so I just start praying, and I just start
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: praying for God's protection over him. I'm like, whatever has
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: been a sign to his life, because I literally saw death,
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: and I'm like, whatever is trying to you know, take
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: him before his time. God just cancel it in prayer.
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: That day comes, my brother is going to his property,
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: just a regular checkup, and a car starts following him.
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: He didn't notice it at first, and then he makes
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: a turn. He's like, wait, let me just make sure
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: he makes a random turn.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: Dayturn.
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: He makes a left turn, day turn left, he makes
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: another right on dayturn right, and then he looks and
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: he's like, oh, they're probably trying to like steal from him.
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: And this is Chicago, Chicago even they might want to
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: steal bread from you and shoot you, you know. So
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: now he's like he just comes to a place where
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: he's like okay, Like God, give me wisdom how to
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: navigate this. And he mentioned like he didn't even know.
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: Something just took over. It's almost like telling him how
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: to drive right. And then he loses them. So he
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: calls me right after. He was like, Yo, the craziest
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: thing happened today. And I told him, I say, bro,
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: what's today? And I'm like, go go back to the
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: message I sent you, like what's today?
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: And he looks.
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: It was that day that God literally showed me in
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: the dreams circled and read, So how I partner with
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: God was to say, God, your purpose is that nothing
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: happens to my brother, But someone on earth needs to
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: come in agreement with that because there is something Because
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: even when you look at terrorist shootings and all these things,
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: it goes beyond a person, you know, a mental health issue.
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: You have someone who is influenced by a.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: Spirit to do that.
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: And so that day, why God gave a warning ahead
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: of time is because there is something that is beyond
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: people just trying to steal from him. There is a
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: spirit that has influenced those people because of an agenda
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: that was not of God. And so that is why
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: prayer is important. When you you see a dream and
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: you see yourself dying, or you see a family member dying,
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: doing nothing is coming in agreement with that narrative.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: And and pray against pray against it and with Jesus.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: It's so simple.
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: It's not even like you got to do all this hoopla.
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: It's literally coming in agreement to say, you know what, Lord,
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: I'm speaking life into this person's life. No harm will
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: come before them. And so that shows us the supernatural
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: powers of God that even when we feel like we
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: got it all together, He's like no. If I partner
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: with you, we could, you could, you would really get
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: this life right. The reason why when another coming dream
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: is when people see themselves in school or in a
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: classroom and they're trying to take a test and they
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: keep failing the test because God is trying to tell them, hey,
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: there's a different season of life you're supposed to be
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: stepping into, and you're you're not You're you're missing it right.
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: You're still in an old season and you're still stuck there.
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: And so he's trying to show people like, there's more
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: I have for you, but because you're not seeing it right,
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: you're so comfortable where you are that you're missing the
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: test to get you to the next place.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Talk about if you if you feel comfortable about the
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: time you went to the doctor and God told you
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: something different than what your doctor told you.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: Oh that that happened to me. You know.
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: So when I was pregnant, I have I have a daughter.
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: When I was pregnant with my daughter, I started experiencing
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: like a lot of pain, and you know, we go
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: rush the go to the go to the we are
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: O B G Y N rather and He's like trying
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: to you know, even confirm the pregnancy, and he's like, man,
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: I don't see a pregnancy here. I just see some
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: things that does not look good. Like you need to
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: go to the er. So we rush to the er.
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: They tell me that I have like these fibroids that
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: have gone, you know, gotten really big because of the
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: pregnancy and the blood flow going like to the womb.
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: So they, you know, we share the results of the
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: doctor and he literally calls me. He was like, because
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: of the size of these fireboids, because of the location
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: of these fibroids, you need to terminate the pregnancy. And
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: you need to terminate this, because he was from his analysis,
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: the baby won't have room to grow and the firebords
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: could cause and even if you know, we take the
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: baby to term, the bleeding is going to be too excessive.
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: And he was like, and he called back to back,
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: he was like, I'm telling you you need to terminate
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: this and try again. Let terminate it. Let's take the
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: firebords out and try again. Now, Before that, how I
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: even knew I was pregnant, Not from nine I started
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: seeing angels and all those things. So right before I
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: found out I was pregnant, I was in my closet.
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: I was getting ready for something and this angel appears
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: in my closet and doesn't speak. They don't speak like
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: how we're talking. It's almost like spirit to spirit. And
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: I just had this knowing that I'm pregnant, and I
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: was like, and I run downstairs to my husband. I
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: was like, Babe, I think we're pregnant. So when the
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: doctor is telling me this, and then I used to
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: see my daughter in dreams a lot, and I'm like, God,
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: you will not go through all of this just so
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: that I have to terminate this pregnancy. But I also
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: believe that there are some things we experience in life
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: that reminds us that we are not doing life by
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: our own intelligence, because that's to be self dependent. But
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: I'm doing life with God. So there are things I'm
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: going to experience in life that only God can see
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: me through it, and He designed it to be that way.
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: And so I remember, like, I'm still in a lot
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: of pain, and I just like I'm praying and calling
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: out to God. And that night I have a dream
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: and the Lord comes to me and says, do are
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: two key things. He says, no harm is going to
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: come to your child, and he hands me a Bible,
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: and when I woke up, I knew that the Bible
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: was represented stand on my word. So then I started
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: opening scriptures. I spoke about healing and I'm like, okay, God,
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: no harm will come to her, and this is what
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: your word says about healing. And so I got another
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: obgyn because I'm like, God has shown me like no
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: harm is going to come to this child. And the
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: other obgyn she was like, you know, I'm going to
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: be optimistic, but I'm going to tell you there is
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: a scare and a concern. So we need to get
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: a specialist doctor, you know, involved, and we need to
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: walk this carefully. All of a sudden, everything that was
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: a concern started being reversed. So initially they're like, we
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: don't have that. You're gonna have room for this baby
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: to grow. The doctor is like, oh, you got room
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: for two.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: There were things about what the location of the fibers.
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: The fibers said that moving on their own. They stead
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: of calling my daughter a soccer player, they're like, she's
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: just kicking them up and down. Everything that they said,
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: God turned it around, you know. But the keithing is
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: getting that word from God and I believe that's why
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: in the business of our lives, God still finds that
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: place when we're sleeping to speak to us and show us, like,
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: I know, everything in your world is telling you this
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: is not going to work, but I'm showing you that
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: I'm with you.
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: You talk about it in the book about how the Bible,
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: the Bible, and science talk about the benefits of getting.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: I never heard that from the Bible.
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, because Biblically, you know, we are body, soul, and spirit.
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: And I think so many times, even in like Christianity,
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: we only focus on like, you know, the things we
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: got to do, like the spirit, the soul realm. But
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: there is like your body, and in other force, you
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: have to be a good steward over your body, you know,
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: you have to. There are things that even as believers,
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: is just as important and eat eating well just as
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: important as working out, because the body is the vehicles
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: the thing that carries your spirit. There's a thing that
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: embodies your soul. So if your body is not healthy,
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: that's not good stewardship, you know. So when you're able
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: to get proper rest, and there's such a connection between
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: you know, science and even you know, our spirituality because
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: from a scientific standpoint, when you don't have enough rest,
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: you have brain fog that that affects your ability to
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: even remember your dreams. Because when you wake up and
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: you come out of this place where you had an
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: encounter or X, Y and Z, your body needs to
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: be healthy enough to process what was just deposited. And
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: so if you're not getting enough rest, it's very similar
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: to you know, a computer, Like if you only allow
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: your computer to die every single time, it causes memory
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: loss over time.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: Same thing.
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: If you only go to bed when you feel like
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: shut down, like you're completely exhausted and you just crash,
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: it's harder for you to remember your dreams because that
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: also affects memory loss, you know, when you're waking up
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: from those moments. And so being a good steward is
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: looking at every part. Even the Bible talks about, you know,
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: when the Lord this talks about you prospering, you know,
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: in all things right, not just in your spirit, but
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: in your soul, in your body. So there's a scripture
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: that talks about bring your whole body, your whole soul,
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: and your whole spirit blameless before God. So he's after
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: everything that be a good Steward because it all connects.
• 25:42
  Speaker 6: There's a part of your book where you talk about
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: part two, like I guess it's part three of part
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: I mean part four of part two.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: The source of your dreams?
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: Are there bad sources of dreams where it's like, if
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: this dream comes from this, you should not try interpret it.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: And leave it there.
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: No absolutely, And the key thing sometimes you may not
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: even know exactly where the dream came from, because there's
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: some things that people call nightmares and they're really warning dreams.
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: So when you that's why, like I go, I have
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: this whole process of like you know, step by step
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: when it comes to interpreting, and there's a part where
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: by that time you might be able to discern like
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: did this come from God?
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: Did this come from the enemy.
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: But in the beginning, I always tell people write every
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: dream down because on surface level you may never see
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: it right until you get into the weeds of it.
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: But a dream can literally come from Satan, and how
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: that happens is based on what you agree with. You know,
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: the Bible talks about how can two people walk together
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: except they be agreed, and we don't find out. We
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: don't recognize the times where we are opening ourselves up
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: to agreement with things that come from a demonic realm.
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: And what that looks like is some horror movies. Even
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: in the industry, they will tell you there are directors
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: that will literally tell you that when they were writing
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: the script, there were real spells, you know, real spells
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: and witchcraft used in the script. And so when you're
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: watching the movie before going to bed or in the afternoon,
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: you're opening yourself up to something that is beyond entertainment.
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: And then when you go to bed now you start
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: having some weird dreams and you're like, wait, where did
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: this come from?
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: Like what is going on here?
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: Because there was an access given to that, you know,
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: it's the same reason why someone would just start having
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: like there are these weird scenarios like even when you
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: think of, you know, families for example, like when people
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: want to question, you know, things with the demonoicrome, when
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: you see some weird patterns in families. You know, every
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: man at this age something happened to them. The moment
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: they hit thirty, this happened to him, the moment they
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: hit forty, this happened to them. All the way back
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: to their great great grandfather but that shows you demonic influence.
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: And how it happens for us is that there are
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: all kinds of things, whether it's in media, it's in
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: you know, the things that we're consuming, reading, watching, listening
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: to and we don't see that we're opening ourselves up,
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: and then the enemy starts showing us things and dreams
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: that we're like, wait, how, like where's this coming from?
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: You know, what about DejaVu?
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: Oh, deja vu? I think has been so misinterpreted. You know,
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: when people think deja vu, they make it seem like spooky,
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: and it's really not. You know, you're dealing with a
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: god who knew your end from your beginning. And there
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: are times most people have DejaVu doing the most random things.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: It's like you're shopping and then you're.
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: Like, I've been here, Like what is happening? And what
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: God is communicating to that person oftentimes is your life
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: may feel mundane, your life may feel boring, you may
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: feel like there's nothing going on for me. But this
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: place in your life. I wrote it even before you
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: were born. I knew this moment in your life. And
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: it's an encouragement to people to know that even though
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: it just feels like nothing is really happening, or I
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: don't feel like I'm where I'm supposed to be. God
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: is showing you. But this moment of your life is
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: known by me. You're on track, You're in the right
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: place at the right.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Time a long time ago.
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: Now, the power of dreams is fascinating because I do
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: believe that it's just it's God speaking to us. I
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: think it's glimpses into other dimensions.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Like I've never had somebody that.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: I was close to pass and they haven't visited me
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: in a dream at least at least once.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: And some of them are more clear than others.
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: Right, Like my grandmother came to me and told me
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: she saw my niece when my niece was born. Right
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: are my homegirl Michelle came to me and told me
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: thank you for something right I've had. But my homegirl
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: Jazz came to me in a dream. I went chasing
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: after her. She didn't want to be bothered. That's the
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: only one out of all of them that confused me.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: That's a good thing.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: You literally didn't want to be bothered. He was like,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: let me alone.
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  Speaker 5: No, But that's a great thing because again, when dreams
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: with people that have passed on. The things that you
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: should be worried about if you see in the dream
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: is if they're leading you somewhere, if you're chasing them
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: and they're kind of telling you come on. If they're
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: driving a car, you're in the car.
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  Speaker 3: Those are scared. You should pray about that.
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: So you chasing her and she's like, leave me alone.
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  Speaker 5: It is so that because where she's going, you should
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: not be there because you still have an assignment on
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: this earth.
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  Speaker 3: So you chasing her.
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  Speaker 5: It's almost like you're trying to like, hey, let me
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: go with you, and she's like no, no, no, no no.
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  Speaker 5: So it's not even about her not wanting to be bothered,
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  Speaker 5: it's the spirit behind that, like, yo, you should not
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: be wear I'm at right now. So I think it
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  Speaker 5: would be interesting if you think back on where you
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: were in that time of life headspace, because that could
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  Speaker 5: even speak to you about why you saw that in
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: your dream.
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  Speaker 1: What about car accidents?
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: Car accident is something to really like pray for, just
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: for direction in your life.
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  Speaker 1: If you're a passenger, you know, wasn't driving, but you were.
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: A passenger, then like it depends on.
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  Speaker 3: You were in a bus Okay, explain the dream. Let's
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: do a dissection.
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  Speaker 1: I was I was just in a bus and I
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: don't remember.
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  Speaker 4: For some reason, I feel like I remember the person
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  Speaker 4: being intoxicated that was driving a bus.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why that was a thing.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I was on a bus and then the
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  Speaker 4: bus went, it started driving, then it started to like fish,
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  Speaker 4: and then it flipped over.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: So when you're looking like a bus, when it's a card,
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: it's very lot Oftentimes it's more personal. Right when you're
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: looking at a bus and you're looking at a corporate setting,
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: and then the person who is in leading driving the
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: bus is not even in their right mind, so they're intoxicated.
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  Speaker 5: So that could speak to several things. One, it could
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: speak to something that you are a part of that
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: it is like, it could be a corporation. It could
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: be something that you're connected to, something that has a
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: corporate set into it. But the person who is in charge,
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: whether it's the CEO, whether it's you know, whoever, is
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: making the decisions, calling the shots. Because everything, anything, that,
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: everything in life has movement, right, so even the things
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: you're part of in the naturally could just seem like
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: you're part of a company or you're doing X, Y
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: and Z. But all of this is speaking to movement
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  Speaker 5: in your life. And so on one hand, that could
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  Speaker 5: be the Lord's showing you like, hey, this, then you're
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: a part of the person who is the head is
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: not the person that should be leading this. And if
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: you are connected to this, when they crash, you all
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: are going to be affected. Right, So that's one side.
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: Another side of it could also be and it's just
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: to see where you are in life, what is really
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  Speaker 5: speaking to you more right, So then you examine your
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: life like, hey, what am I part of?
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: What company?
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: Am I a part of? What business am I involved in?
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: And who is who is the head? Because whenever this crashes,
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: I'm going to be involved. Or if you're in a
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: space in your life, because then it's entertainment and there
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: was something maybe you were going out in a few
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: weeks and if there was a party bus and that
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: could just be a signed where the Lord is like, hey,
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: don't be a part of that. So when you also
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: look at what's taking place in your wake in life,
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: it helps you also discern like what God could be speaking.
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: To this, feel like the conversation with you about dreams
• 32:45
  Speaker 6: in the book feels like how people go and get
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: like can you read my palm? And but it's I
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: know it's different. And growing up in a church, my grandma,
• 32:53
  Speaker 6: she don't play that we're not allowed to do that
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: type of stuff. But then pastors will prophesize to you,
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: what is why can we do one thing but not
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: the other?
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: That's a great question.
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: So when you look at the spiritual realm, just like
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: in life, right, there's good, there's evil. The spiritual realm,
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: there's good, there's evil. So you know when you are
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: doing things from and evil is really just a counterfeit
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: of that good. So from a Christian perspective, you know, Jesus,
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: God speaks to us, right, and even like prophecy. Prophecy
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: again is that it's not even like this weird thing.
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: It's literally just accessing the mind of God concerning the person.
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: So it's just like if you're praying, Let's say you're
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: praying for envy, right, and you're like, God, what are
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: your thoughts about envy? And then all of a sudden
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: and we all have access to this when you have
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: the Holy Spirit, because there's so many things God wants
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: to show you about people and so it's just like, God,
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: what are your thoughts about envy? And then the Holy
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: Spirit might start showing you things about him.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: Envy that is not.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Get it together. That's what I pray.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: This is that figure like when somebody is being evil
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: or they joking, like because pray for her eyelashes, right,
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: and it's to the point where it's like, just joke
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: too much, there's no baby, continue on.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: None of that much.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: But then.
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: But the beauty is it's coming from God, right, and
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: what comes from Him is for your good. This is
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: and first of all, it is the source that you
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: can trust because it's the source that created you. It's
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: a source that knows your life. It is a source
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: that is for you. When you go to someone reading
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: your poems, a terror card reader, a psychic, the source
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: is demonic. Now I grew up, I grew up in
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: Nigeria and we've seen it though I've seen it even
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: in from from even some family members right who are
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: not on the other side. But the source of that
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: is very demonic and the goal. So for example, someone
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: goes to a psychic, the psychic can tell you everything
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: about your life that has been is known, what your
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: grandmother were when she know she got married. It's a
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: known information in the spiritual realm. So yes, God can
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: reveal that to someone, but the enemy can also reveal
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: that to someone as well. The enemy can tell someone
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: where you live, your address, how many kids you have,
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: what you were doing yesterday, because it's past information, it's
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: past knowledge. It's known now when you don't know. That's
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: why the Bible believer in says you shall know them
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: by their fruits, not by what they tell you, not
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: by the fact that they have knowledge about you. Because
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: many people can have knowledge about you, but the source
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: of it can either be demonic or it can be God.
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: But the motive is where it changes. So when you're
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: receiving a message that's coming from God, the motive is
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: for your growth. Right, Jesus will say that I have
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: come to give you life and life more abundantly. But
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: then when it comes to Satan, he has come to
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: still care and destroy. So the psychic comes.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: You go.
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: Someone goes to a psychic, the psychic tells them what
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: their grandfather wore when they died.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: They start crying.
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: Now they're open, they're like, oh my gosh, how did
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: you know? And the psychic just keeps going, keeps going,
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: buys their trust, and the motive is to curse you.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: It may not.
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: Happen that day, but it happens over time. Then from
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: there the psychic would say, oh, you're gonna have three marriages.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: But what did they just do?
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: They cursed your first marriage, so they just spoke to
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: you that you'll get married the first time, but it's
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: not gonna work out. You get married the second time,
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: it's not gonna work out, and then you're gonna get
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: maried the third time.
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: So they just and you're in agreement.
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: With it, you're eating it up. So you literally opened
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: yourself up for them to curse you. So it takes
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: They want to get you in and then but the
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: spirit behind it, Satan cannot can only take you where
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: he's going. He cannot give you anything else, so he
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: can tell you all these nice things you want to hear.
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: But after they buy your trust, then they start telling
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: you things that now you're scared. You're like, oh my gosh,
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: you're like, no, but X, Y and Z. But what
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: they're doing, the motive of that is to get you
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: off track. It's so that you don't know where you're like,
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: you're not walking in the path that God has for you.
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  Speaker 3: And that's the difference question.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: You know, when people do pray, it's some of the
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: prayers frivolous, like for instance, like if somebody prays for
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: their team, right not pray to be healthy or to
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: be safe during the game, or pray their team wins.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: Or Lauren prays for a man or Charlamagne praise to be.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: A little taller and pray for that.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: Like how do those type of prayers work when it
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: comes to it's one of those things where write it
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: off or is it one of those things to honestly
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: to pray for things that like I pray that the
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Giants win next week.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: Is that's not a real prayer.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: Or is it?
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: No? I think wherever God is so kind, you know,
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: just like when you have a kid. When a child
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: is a baby, you know, they want to get into
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: all kinds of things. You don't get mad about that.
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: There's some things they want to get into if it
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: doesn't really hurt them. You even help them, like hey,
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: let me lift you up so you can paint the walls.
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: You know, as you get older, you naturally grow to
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: a place where you're like, I don't want to paint
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: the couch, Let me paint on the paper, right, the
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: same thing, and I'll walk with God. When you come
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: to know the Lord in the beginning, those beginning stages
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: of growing and getting to know him, they are random
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: things you can ask for and sometimes he would just
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: randomly do them, you know. And there's some things you
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: know like.
• 38:29
  Speaker 6: Oh my God, I remember about these people at all.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: But it's like God is just so kind in that way.
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: Now, it doesn't mean that just because you're like, man,
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: I pray the giants win and guys, I all get
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: the giants gonna win. But as you grow in God,
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: you start to understand that. You know, the power of
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: prayer is when you pray in alignment with His will.
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: But you have to first know his will, so that
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: takes maturity, right. But when you're still in that, like
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: you know, stage of being like a baby, they're random
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: things you can ask and sometimes he will do some
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: random things just to show you he hears you and
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: he loves you.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: How can he follow you, Stephanie, Well, look at the
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: first had to pick up the book.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah's crazy here. I used to watch you preach person.
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  Speaker 5: I love that. No, I'm on Instagram Stephanie E k
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: I k E and then have a YouTube channel Stephanie
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: A k okafor yeah TikTok Stephanie K Yeah.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: You preach to yeah Okay, okay okay. One church.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: One of the book and where people can get it.
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: The Power of Your Dreams, and it's available everywhere books.
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: So then it has a Spanish edition coming out in November.
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: A guide to hearing and understanding how God speaks while you.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: Why you sleep?
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: All right, Well, before we get about here, let's let's
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: close on a prayer.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, yes, yes, And even before we close, I just
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: want to share a few things because every time I
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: come to a place, I'm always asking the Lord just
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: to show me, like what he's showing about not just
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: the people that will listen to this, but the people
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: that are on here. And very quickly, Charlottagne, even when
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: you share that story about what you saw as a teenager,
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: there is a protection that has always been around your life.
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: And this is a general everybody has got protecting them.
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: But what I'm saying is that what God showed me
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: concerning you is when you think about some of the
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: things that you got yourself involved in, you should not
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: by any right be where you are today, and there
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: is a covering. There are things that God has saved
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: you from. There are things that God has protected you
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: from when you think of your physical life and also
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: your image, and it's because there is something very unique.
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: There's a very unique assignment to your life that has
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: to be fulfilled. And I believe that it's not things
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: that the way he showed me, it's almost as dope.
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  Speaker 3: Because you're a very smart man.
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: You might see it and you'll question yourself out of it.
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: And it would be your kids that will tell you
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: what it is. And to not discount their voices when
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: they tell you, like, hey, Dad, I think you're supposed
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: to do. But it's literally the voice of God to
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: you because there's something that God has been preserving you
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: for that you must do on this earth. And what
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: he showed me is that the confirmation of what that is.
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: You wouldn't you know it, but you reject it. But
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: your kids will be the one that will tell you
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: that very thing. And when they do, and maybe they
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: have walk in that path because there is you're going
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: to see so much favor beyond what you've ever known.
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  Speaker 3: And amen, And even when I was.
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: Praying, first of all, I love you, know how you've
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: been on the show and there's just such like this
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: journalist and maybe you I don't know if you are
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: okay beautiful because I'm like, oh my gosh, like how
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: she thinks, how she's which I used to help me
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: because would be rough and you would be on You're
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: always so happy.
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  Speaker 3: Oh thank you.
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  Speaker 5: But even when I saw concerning you, how God is
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: going to bring you in their rooms, whether it's like
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: the breakfast club and different things, but there are rooms
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: that God is going to bring you in. And there
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: is such a light about you. You're more grounding to
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: the Word than people know you to be. But the
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: reason that God is opening doors for you is because
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: of the world that He's put in you. And so
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: it goes beyond what's on your resume, It goes beyond
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: what you have experience, and it goes beyond the people
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: that you know.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: But that to.
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: Not shy away from speaking his word, to not shy away.
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: There are moments I just kept seeing how the Holy
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: Spirit would even give you words about people like you
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: be around them and there's something you're sensing, but it's like,
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: should I say it?
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: Should I not say it?
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: And he's like no, But that's why I brought you
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: in the room, so that you can say what I
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: put in your heart. It's beyond me just adding something
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: else to your resume. It's because I need your There's
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: an influence that sometimes we would have because of the
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: word God wants to get out there. And I remember
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: even as I was God showed me this, not you,
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: if anyone who knows the story, I'm not talking about
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: you in the way of Pharaoh, but it was literally
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: like Pharaoh in the times of Egypt where there was
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: gonna be a famine, And the person God brought the
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: word to was not Joseph, the person who was like
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: walking with the Lord, but it was Pharaoh because he
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: had influence over nations. He had influence to execute the
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: plan of God. And then Joseph was able to interpret
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: the dream that helped him to do that. But when
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: he showed me this, it was in the sense where
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: God will bring you to places because you have influence
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: in the room, you have influence with people, but it's
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: because of what He wants you to execute with your voice,
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: so to not shy away from that.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: And then finally DJ envy with you.
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: It was so beautiful because the first thing I saw
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: was God's love and it was almost this thing where
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: you not It's like you had this wall right and
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: it's like you used to protect yourself. You're used to
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: kind of like keeping people out so you can control
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: the narrative. But as you're doing that, you're also keeping
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: yourself out of the reckless love of God and how
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: he wants to show up for you. And what I
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: kept seeing was, yes, you have questions, Yes there are things,
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: because I saw it almost like where you know, even
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: when it comes to faith, Like one of the things
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: is like, you know, but if this person who didn't
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: know you dies, like what happens to them?
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: Where you have all these questions that are intelligent and
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: smart questions, but to really step into the why behind
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: it requires surrender. And what I just kept showing, what
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: God kept showing me, was you come into a deeper
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: place of surrender in your life and it is going
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: to open. It literally felt like a damn bursting out
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: what he wants to do, because there are many things
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: he wants to bring you into that you don't even
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: know about yourself yet, but that if you have this wall.
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: Then it's not just keeping people out, it's keeping his
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: voice out, is kipping his word out. But I just
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: saw like this love of God that is chasing after you.
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: And it was almost like someone just like, hey, let
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: me in. I'm right here. And regardless of the things
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: you've experienced in life, their answers that it's almost like
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  Speaker 5: their questions, he's not afraid to answer.
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  Speaker 3: But you have to.
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  Speaker 5: There's a will, there's a surrender that needs to take
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  Speaker 5: place first. But yeah, David, yes, yes, yes, Heavenly Father,
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  Speaker 5: we thank you for just everything you've done in this moment.
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  Speaker 5: Lord God, we thank you even in talking about this book,
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  Speaker 5: because it's really not about just getting a book out,
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  Speaker 5: but it's really about getting people to be awakened to
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  Speaker 5: knowing that you speak, and you desire to speak to them,
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  Speaker 5: whether they're awake or whether they're asleep. But even the
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  Speaker 5: power of their dreams. Many people are ignoring their dreams
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  Speaker 5: in this time, and there are world you're trying to
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  Speaker 5: alert them about their warnings. You want to make them
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  Speaker 5: aware of their ways, you want to prepare them, there
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  Speaker 5: are ways you want to encourage them. And so Lord,
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  Speaker 5: I just pray that you will continue to be glorified
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  Speaker 5: and in and through everything that we do. We love you, Lord,
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  Speaker 5: We thank you in Jesus' name.
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  Speaker 3: Amen.
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  Speaker 2: Amen, well, thank you very much.
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  Speaker 3: Thankfine e k ok for yeah right, come.
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  Speaker 2: On, that's the breakfast Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Wake that answer up in the morning for Breakfast Club.