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The Domestic Terror Playbook: Rep. Tony Gonzales Exposes The Real Group Behind The ICE Attack · Unshaken & Unafraid with Joe Pags

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Speaker 1: All eyes on ICE, all eyes on Minneapolis and Portland,
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Speaker 1: where you've got shooting between ICE agents and other people,
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Speaker 1: but who the other people are has really been questioned
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Speaker 1: by the media. The Left is lying about who this person,
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Speaker 1: Renee Good was, who was in Minneapolis and drove her
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Speaker 1: vehicle into an ICE agent who ended up shooting her
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Speaker 1: and taking her life. Another shooting happened in Portland, Oregon.
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Speaker 1: Turns out trend Diarragua that violent gang from Venezuela might
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Speaker 1: have been involved. Because all that is going on, I
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Speaker 1: wanted to get with somebody who really knows what's happening.
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Speaker 1: He's the border representative here in Texas. He's got the
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Speaker 1: largest border district in the entire country. It's Jewish representative
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Speaker 1: Tony Gonzalez, also a former sailor. He was a Navy
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Speaker 1: man who served in Iraq and Afghanistan. He's got great
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Speaker 1: insight from border patrol agents, from ICE agents as to
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Speaker 1: what's going on. And I do show him. He never
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Speaker 1: saw it before, the actual camera shot shot by the
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Speaker 1: ICE agent who killed Renee Good in Minneapolis. Tony hadn't
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Speaker 1: seen it before. You'll see him react. Keep it right here,
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Speaker 1: unshaken and unafraid with Joe Pegs, but we've got to
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Speaker 1: really hone in on what the hell happened in Minneapolis,
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Speaker 1: Minnesota yesterday. The way the media has spun this, and
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Speaker 1: Jade Vance called them out on this yesterday, is this
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Speaker 1: is a thirty seven year old mother, wife, award winning poet,
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Speaker 1: just minding your own business and was executed by Ice.
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Speaker 1: You and I both know that, But by the first
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Speaker 1: couple of angles we saw that wasn't what happened at all.
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Speaker 1: This woman was actually interfering and obstructing all day. She
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Speaker 1: parked her SUV sideways to block a road. She was
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Speaker 1: antagonizing the ICE agents, which you can do. You don't
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Speaker 1: get to shoot somebody over that. But then at one
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Speaker 1: point we see it very clearly she puts the car
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Speaker 1: in reverse. When she's told to get out, she puts
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Speaker 1: it in drive, drives right at an agent who then
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Speaker 1: pulls his gun and shoots her. Tony when you see
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Speaker 1: something like that and you're hearing a narrative that is
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Speaker 1: so completely the antithesis of what our eyes are telling
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Speaker 1: us in those videos, what do you think.
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Speaker 2: I think the left wants a certain truth and then
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Speaker 2: there's real truth and when you. Once again, I'm glad
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Speaker 2: that there's video and I look forward to you know,
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Speaker 2: if there's anybody camera or there's any other videos out there.
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Speaker 2: It just tells the truth and allows the American people
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Speaker 2: not to have some media spin it one way or another.
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Speaker 2: The fact is, when you use a vehicle as a weapon,
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Speaker 2: that's an act of terrorism. We saw that in New Orleans.
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Speaker 2: Think about New Orleans, what that terrorist did. And we've
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Speaker 2: seen that throughout the country across the world. So when
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Speaker 2: someone does that, of course an agent has every right
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Speaker 2: to defend themselves. And once again, this isn't the first time.
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Speaker 2: This is sadly, this is happening more and more, and
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Speaker 2: the Left is is they're encouraging people to do this.
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Speaker 1: Like you mentioned, Tony, I gotta tell you, well, first
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Speaker 1: of all, there is video out there. What I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: do is I'm gonna play it during this interview so
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Speaker 1: you can see it. But there's the F word, so
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Speaker 1: those who are listening on the radio, it's going to
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Speaker 1: be edited later so I can take the F word out.
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Speaker 1: But I think this is really important. I put out
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Speaker 1: a video that shows exactly what went down, actually who
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Speaker 1: this person was. As Renee good. She was in a
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Speaker 1: group called ice Watch that I want to talk to
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Speaker 1: you about coming up, but I want to show you
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Speaker 1: this video. I think you'll be able to see it
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Speaker 1: because in context, it's important that you know exactly what
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Speaker 1: the view of the officer was. I want to make sure, Tony,
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Speaker 1: can you see what I'm showing you?
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Speaker 2: Okay? Good, good, good, That's fine. I'm not okay. We
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Speaker 2: don't change our plates every morning, just so you know,
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Speaker 2: it don't be the same plate when you come talk
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Speaker 2: to us later. That's fine. You have said that's important.
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Speaker 2: You want to come at us, you want to come
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Speaker 2: at us, I say, go get yourself some lunch, big boy.
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Speaker 1: This is the wife watching that, Tony. Is there any
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Speaker 1: doubt the officer was hit because people are claiming he
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Speaker 1: wasn't hit.
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Speaker 2: No, there's no doubt that not only was he hit,
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Speaker 2: but she looked as if, you know, she intentionally tried
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Speaker 2: to run him over. Right. So that's the three that
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Speaker 2: our agents have day in and day out. And once again,
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Speaker 2: it's important for the American people to have the facts
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Speaker 2: and to take that into consideration. And look, I served
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Speaker 2: twenty years in the military. To have people protest whatever
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Speaker 2: they want to protest. That's not what's occurring. You're having
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Speaker 2: people in sight riots and cause damage and hurt individuals
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Speaker 2: and guess what, they're putting their own lives at risk.
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Speaker 2: All of that needs to stop.
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Speaker 1: They had a moment of silence for this woman last
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Speaker 1: night at the Minnesota Timberwolves game. I mean, there's a
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Speaker 1: complete lack of understanding of reality or Tony. There's a
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Speaker 1: purposeful mission by the Left that they're kind of quietly
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Speaker 1: glad this happened. Now they can vilify ICE even further.
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Speaker 1: I'm not happy a thirty seven year old woman's dead.
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Speaker 1: I'm not happy that she that she put herself in
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Speaker 1: the position. I'm not happy that this agent, who had
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Speaker 1: been severely injured six months ago was put in that position.
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Speaker 1: It shouldn't have happened. There shouldn't be something called Ice
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Speaker 1: Watch where you follow these people around. And again, she
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Speaker 1: was a member of Ice Watch. Their job in their
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Speaker 1: minds are to follow ICE agents around and antagonize them
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Speaker 1: all day. But again, by seeing the first angle, which
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Speaker 1: I was, I wasn't sure he got hit. The second angle,
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Speaker 1: it's clear he gets hit in the leg or the
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Speaker 1: or the midsection from behind the trees, this angle from
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Speaker 1: his perspective shows him being hit unless he's an actor,
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Speaker 1: Tony and says, let me pretend I'm being hit and
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Speaker 1: shoot an innocent person. That seems to be self defense,
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Speaker 1: doesn't it.
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Speaker 2: It looks that way. And I'm waiting for all the details,
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Speaker 2: all the details to get shaken out and they have
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Speaker 2: a full, full investigation and to see that. But what
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Speaker 2: I see is this needs to end. And these radical
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Speaker 2: leftist activists they're going out, they needed, they needed to
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Speaker 2: disperse because all they're doing is causing danger to themselves
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Speaker 2: and dangers to others. We're a nation of laws, and
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Speaker 2: our laws need to be followed. Thankfully, in Texas we
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Speaker 2: don't have the same issues as some of these other
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Speaker 2: places do. But it doesn't matter. American citizens need to
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Speaker 2: be safe, and our agents that are that are executing
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Speaker 2: our laws, that are going out and enforcing our laws,
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Speaker 2: they safe. And there's no room for somebody that is
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Speaker 2: inciting violence like this, No room at all, Tony.
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Speaker 1: Let's talk about San Antonio, which is where I'm based
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Speaker 1: at KTSA. It's part of your district. San Antonio. The
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Speaker 1: mayor came out immediately and said it was wrong, and
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Speaker 1: it should not have happened, and immediately took the side
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Speaker 1: opposite of the ICE agent. The governor of Minnesota, Tim Walls,
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Speaker 1: I call him Tim fraud Walls. This guy has come
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Speaker 1: out every single day and said, go and gather, go
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Speaker 1: where they are, go and exercise your First Amendment right.
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Speaker 1: It's not a First Amendment right to block the road
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Speaker 1: and to drive at ICE agents. The mayor of Minneapolis says,
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Speaker 1: get the f out of Minneapolis. When all they have
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Speaker 1: to do, and I want you to if you don't
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Speaker 1: mind explaining this to my audience better than I'm about to,
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Speaker 1: all they have to do is comply with ICE. If
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Speaker 1: the local police chief, the local mayor, if the governor
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Speaker 1: of the state said, yeah, Ice, come in, get the
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Speaker 1: people you've got on the list that you want to get,
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Speaker 1: will help you out, then you can get out. None
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Speaker 1: of this is necessary.
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Speaker 2: That's exactly right. And you know what I put into
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Speaker 2: legislation where they don't they don't have a choice that
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Speaker 2: the federal they have to they have to interact with
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Speaker 2: the federal government when it comes to enforcing ICE policy.
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Speaker 2: I think that's the right approach to take instead of
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Speaker 2: counting on these mayors or these these governors that in
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Speaker 2: many cases have gone rogue, and I'm hearing from constituencies
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Speaker 2: that go they don't represent us. They're putting our communities
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Speaker 2: in danger by by spewing this hate and this rhetoric
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Speaker 2: and and essentially being anti police. They're the They're of
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Speaker 2: the defund the police movement. This is a this is
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Speaker 2: part two of defund the police movement by the left,
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Speaker 2: and all they're is inserting Ice where they inserted the
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Speaker 2: police department before that. We cannot allow them to win
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Speaker 2: this because once we do, it erodes our way of life.
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Speaker 2: Whether it's in San Antonio, whether it's in Minneapolis, wherever
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Speaker 2: it is, we have to push back against it. Part
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Speaker 2: of that is codifying President Trump's executive words into law
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Speaker 2: long term. That's exactly what I'm doing in Congress.
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Speaker 1: Gonzales at house dog Governor is Gonzales with an ass
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Speaker 1: at the end. It's Tony Gonzalez, US Representative District twenty three, Republican,
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Speaker 1: Great State of Texas. When it comes to an organization
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Speaker 1: like Ice Watch, which this rero Ana Good was a
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Speaker 1: part of, they were literally following Ice around all day.
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Speaker 1: You can stand on the sidewalk and yell all you want.
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Speaker 1: I mean, yelling is still not peaceable, it's not really
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Speaker 1: constitutionally protected. But whatever, you can yell whatever you want.
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Speaker 1: When you decide to block a road and stop the
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Speaker 1: civil rights and the abilities for people to go and
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Speaker 1: live their lives freely, that's a different thing. When you've
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Speaker 1: got an organization that's called ice Watch, you know that
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Speaker 1: it exists. When they step one toe in the middle
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Speaker 1: of the street, shouldn't we be arresting them? Shouldn't we
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Speaker 1: be shutting it down so that something like this can't
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Speaker 1: continue to happen. The fact that she had that ability
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Speaker 1: to follow them all day to park in the middle
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Speaker 1: of the road. Her wife is yelling, go, honey, go,
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Speaker 1: I mean, shouldn't we be able to do something without
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Speaker 1: us worrying about trampling on First Amendment rights? Because that
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Speaker 1: right to freely speak and to bring redress is limited.
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Speaker 1: You can't do anything you want.
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Speaker 2: You bring up a great point. It reminds me, honestly,
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Speaker 2: it reminds me a lot of my time in Iraq
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Speaker 2: and Afghanistan, where you had these terrorists that would create
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Speaker 2: playbooks and they would go out and they would recruit
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Speaker 2: other people and they would show them whatever the playbook
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Speaker 2: was they would train them, they would equip them, they
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Speaker 2: would arm them, and then ultimately they would deploy them
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Speaker 2: to different places. That is exactly what I'm seeing by
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Speaker 2: the left is a lot of these things. They're not organic,
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Speaker 2: They're orchestrated. People are parachuting into these places and they're
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Speaker 2: inciting riots and then creating violence, and they're creating an
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Speaker 2: opportunity that is going to cause harm to themselves and others.
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Speaker 2: And there is no room for that in America. And
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Speaker 2: if we allow that to continue, all we're gonna do
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Speaker 2: is unravel America even further. And I don't I know
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Speaker 2: for a fact President Trump is not going to allow
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Speaker 2: that to occur. I fully stand behind ICE and what
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Speaker 2: they're doing. They need to go out and execute these
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Speaker 2: these orders of removing very dangerous criminals from our streets.
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Speaker 1: Are you concerned about ICE officers safety. I know that
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Speaker 1: about twelve thousand people have signed up to become part
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Speaker 1: of ICE. At the same time, in Minneapolis, nobody's signing
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Speaker 1: up to become a police officer, which is interesting, But
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Speaker 1: are you concerned about their safety? Because the it's not
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Speaker 1: just rhetoric, Tony, they are literally putting cars in drive
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Speaker 1: and driving at them.
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Speaker 2: Now, it's real. I'm concerned with all law enforcement officers.
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Speaker 2: You know, today is national law enforcement, you know a
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Speaker 2: day and I was with a group here in South Texas.
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Speaker 2: I'm talking about two hundred plus law enforcement officers, local, state, federal,
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Speaker 2: and I showed up just to say thank you, thank
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Speaker 2: you for wearing the badge, thank you for going to work,
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Speaker 2: thank you for putting your boots on and keeping us safe.
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Speaker 2: There needs to be more of that. And so for
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Speaker 2: these ICE agents that are under attack, this is real.
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Speaker 2: This isn't they make believe? This isn't they Hey, they're
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Speaker 2: just you know, saying nasty words at you. They're trying
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Speaker 2: to harm them, either with projectiles or with vehicles or weapons.
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Speaker 2: We saw it in South Texas where they shot up
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Speaker 2: a facility here. I mean, this is real. And you
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Speaker 2: know what, the left is one that is causing this.
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Speaker 2: They can point fingers all day long, but it is
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Speaker 2: these radical leftists are the ones that are going out
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Speaker 2: and spewing this, and we have to stop it. We
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Speaker 2: have to consider these organizations domestic terrorist organizations and not
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Speaker 2: allow them to just go out and trample on our
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Speaker 2: constitutional rights.
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Speaker 1: Let me ask you for an opinion on this. Do
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Speaker 1: you know why they're doing it. Let's say Tim Walls
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Speaker 1: is successful, or the idiot mayor of Seattle or the
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Speaker 1: idiot mayor of Portland. Let's say they're successful in making
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Speaker 1: ICE stop. Why do they want them to stop? What
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Speaker 1: is their problem with getting rid of people who committed
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Speaker 1: a crime to come across the border. What's their problem
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Speaker 1: with the ICE would go after the worst of the
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Speaker 1: worst if these places cooperated. Now they've got to go
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Speaker 1: after everybody who's here illegally because they're not cooperating. What
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Speaker 1: do you think they want? What is your opinion? If
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Speaker 1: we decided let's disband ICE tomorrow, how do they win?
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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what they don't want. Then I'll tell
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Speaker 2: you what I think they want. What they don't want
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Speaker 2: is they don't care about the Hispanic communities. They don't
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Speaker 2: care about immigrants. They don't care about people that came
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Speaker 2: here illegally. Uh that are that are you know living
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Speaker 2: in this country? They don't they this is a pure
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Speaker 2: political move. All they care about is pure politics and
12:35
Speaker 2: winning elections so they can put their people in power
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Speaker 2: and they can issue their their policies. That are socialists
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Speaker 2: leftist policies. That's all they care about, and they're viewsed
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Speaker 2: the Hispanic community in order to get to that. I
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Speaker 2: cannot allow that to uh what what what? We have
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Speaker 2: to expose them for what they are once again. In
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Speaker 2: South Texas, we're a very we're a very diverse community.
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Speaker 2: You know, I represent a district that's predominantly Hispanic. We
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Speaker 2: have gotten our lives back because of President Trump's policies
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Speaker 2: along the border. It's no longer chaotic once again. We're
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Speaker 2: a very welcoming and a warm community. The stuff that's
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Speaker 2: happening in other parts of the country, we do not
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Speaker 2: want that here. We believe in law and order. We
13:17
Speaker 2: believe in those things, and so now is the time
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Speaker 2: for us to stand up. This is more than just
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Speaker 2: conservatives like this is Americans standing up and going we're
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Speaker 2: not going to allow these crazies to take over.
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Speaker 1: Well, I couldn't agree with you more. I'm gonna ring
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Speaker 1: my own bell a little bit here. I love if
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Speaker 1: you've seen my ratings, but they're through the roof and
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Speaker 1: my main market, my home market, is sixty five percent Hispanic.
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Speaker 1: They are very good people. They're family oriented, their values oriented.
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Speaker 1: They're generally speaking Catholic or Christian, and at the end
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Speaker 1: of the day their anti abortion, you know, the pro family.
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Speaker 1: These people don't want to be represented on a national
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Speaker 1: level as if they'refore people coming here illegally and breaking
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Speaker 1: the law. And I think that's what the left doesn't
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Speaker 1: seem to get. You're right. They don't care about ancestry,
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Speaker 1: they don't care about helping the a boiler who's been
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Speaker 1: here thirty years, care about mayhem and anarchy. And I
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Speaker 1: guess some sort of globalist view, Tony. Is this them
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Speaker 1: leading to some sort of global controller of the United
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Speaker 1: States becus we're the one country that won't give into that.
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Speaker 1: Could that be what it is?
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Speaker 2: I think so. I mean it is orchestrated. This isn't
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Speaker 2: by chance, This isn't happening one off. This is a
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Speaker 2: well structured, financed, trained and operated machine. Once again, we're
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Speaker 2: people parachute into communities to do one thing, to defund
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Speaker 2: and derail police and authority and to unravel us from
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Speaker 2: the inside out. I've always said this. You know, our
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Speaker 2: adversaries will never depeate, defeat America. We are as strong people.
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Speaker 2: The only way they'll do that is if they try
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Speaker 2: to tear us from the inside out, and that's what
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Speaker 2: is occurring. We can't allow these people to do that.
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Speaker 2: We have to expose them for the wrongs that they
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Speaker 2: have committed, and we have to fully back Ice and
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Speaker 2: our law enforcement to go out and round up these
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Speaker 2: bad actors that are in our country.
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Speaker 1: We start to understand their goals, don't we When we
15:02
Speaker 1: see BLM show up yesterday. BLM is a Marxist LGBTQ organization,
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Speaker 1: has nothing to do with black lives at all. It's
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Speaker 1: about enriching the people that founded it. They showed up
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Speaker 1: and they were chanting that we have to get the money.
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Speaker 1: It's about getting the money. They saw an opportunity, I guess,
15:19
Speaker 1: and I think the GoFundMe for this woman, for the
15:21
Speaker 1: wife of the woman is up to one point five
15:23
Speaker 1: million dollars. It always seems to lead back to money,
15:26
Speaker 1: but it's different this time that the Summer of love
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Speaker 1: isn't happening again in Minneapolis, because I think that they
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Speaker 1: realize President Trump will send in the National Guard to
15:35
Speaker 1: shut it down very quickly. There is an uprising. They
15:38
Speaker 1: are starting trouble again, but it's not like it was then.
15:41
Speaker 1: Why do you think it's different now than it was
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Speaker 1: in two thousand. Why do you think they realize that
15:45
Speaker 1: you've got somebody in the White House who probably won't
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Speaker 1: let them get away with it this time.
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Speaker 2: I mean, just look at Ask Medoro. You know how
15:52
Speaker 2: he's doing. But President Trump is not playing around. I mean,
15:56
Speaker 2: he's essentially going, I'm not going to allow you to
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Speaker 2: trample on our flag and the trample on our laws. Uh,
16:02
Speaker 2: you know, I will allow you to your first amendment
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Speaker 2: of rights, of course, and is to speak whatever you want.
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Speaker 2: I love when he does these interviews with people that
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Speaker 2: are completely against him. He wants that, but he is
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Speaker 2: not gonna he is not gonna allow a governor, a mayor,
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Speaker 2: or anyone else circumvent the rule of law. And that's
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Speaker 2: what's different this time than others. And I think people, uh,
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Speaker 2: some of these activists realize that the sooner they can
16:26
Speaker 2: get the hell out of our cities and go back
16:28
Speaker 2: to wherever they came from, the safer our communities will be.
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Speaker 1: Representative Ton of Gonzalez District twenty three, Republican, great date
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Speaker 1: of Texas.
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Speaker 2: Well.
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Speaker 1: Can you tell me about the shooting in Portland. I'm
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Speaker 1: not up on that one, but I understand it's a
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Speaker 1: big trend as well. What happened there, because they're not
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Speaker 1: making as much noise about that one as they are
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Speaker 1: about Minneapolis. Was that was that a some sort of
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Speaker 1: an attack on ice again? What was that?
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Speaker 2: There were some initial reports showed that there were there
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Speaker 2: were some folks tied to TDA, the trend alwa uh
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Speaker 2: gang and so so once again, so they're not, they're not.
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Speaker 2: They don't want to highlights some of these bad actors
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Speaker 2: too much. Then once again they want to try to
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Speaker 2: use the optics of what appears as if this innocent
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Speaker 2: person was harmed and let that be the face of
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Speaker 2: a movement, if you will. I sit on the Homeland
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Speaker 2: Security Committee, and our committee has been following these these
17:16
Speaker 2: these various different cases very closely, and once again we're
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Speaker 2: looking at it through the lens of facts, not through emotion,
17:23
Speaker 2: not through you know, these these other spontaneous things, but
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Speaker 2: what were the facts that occurred, and then sharing that
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Speaker 2: truth with the American people to go, don't fall for
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Speaker 2: the left, the legacy media trying to feed you a
17:39
Speaker 2: story or a narrative. Fall for the facts, and so
17:43
Speaker 2: expect the Homeland Security Committee to share and have more
17:46
Speaker 2: hearings that are more transparent on what is occurring.
17:50
Speaker 1: What is your fear about Trendy Uragua now that that
17:53
Speaker 1: Maduro was caught. And by the way, I learned something
17:55
Speaker 1: from Debbie de Seuza the other day, who's from Venezuela.
17:57
Speaker 1: Originally I had no idea about this. You probably did
18:00
Speaker 1: because you speak to people in Latin America. Maduro is
18:03
Speaker 1: not from Venezuela. He's a Colombian. I had no idea.
18:07
Speaker 1: So Trendy and Ragua is here. They're doing bad things.
18:10
Speaker 1: They were taking over apartment complexes all over the place.
18:12
Speaker 1: That's certainly a slow down now that we're getting them out.
18:14
Speaker 1: But they're somehow possibly involved in Portland. So take the
18:18
Speaker 1: opportunity to do bad things. Well, we've got your president
18:21
Speaker 1: locked up in New York. Is that what I'm to
18:23
Speaker 1: be hearing you say? Really?
18:25
Speaker 2: Well, they're really they're everywhere. They're in all fifty states.
18:28
Speaker 2: They have their tentacles and everything. I tell you what
18:31
Speaker 2: has worked when we passed in Congress, when we passed
18:33
Speaker 2: the one big, beautiful bill that gave President Trump all
18:36
Speaker 2: the tools he needed, and Christy Nome and Tom Homan
18:40
Speaker 2: all the tools they needed to go out there and
18:42
Speaker 2: use these task forces, these anti gang and anti terrorist
18:46
Speaker 2: task forces led by Homeland Security. They work, they work
18:49
Speaker 2: PAGs and so these task forces are exposing and going
18:53
Speaker 2: out and basically turning up these bad actors, scooping them
18:57
Speaker 2: up and taking them off our streets. It's working. There
19:00
Speaker 2: needs to be more of it on the Maduro deal.
19:02
Speaker 2: I hope, you know, Venezuela deserves to be free. They
19:06
Speaker 2: deserve to be you know, have free and fair elections.
19:08
Speaker 2: And I hope all those people that fled Venezuela will
19:11
Speaker 2: flee back to Venezuela to help rebuild their country.
19:15
Speaker 1: Eight million people left, as you know, which is kind
19:17
Speaker 1: of amazing. It's Tony Gonzalez. You and I would speak
19:19
Speaker 1: once a month at least, have done more than that
19:22
Speaker 1: during the Biden administration because the border was so bad.
19:25
Speaker 1: We've only talked about the border like once in the
19:27
Speaker 1: last year and a half or a year plus a
19:29
Speaker 1: month or whatever it is. Talk to me about the
19:32
Speaker 1: difference as you're down there. You just did a pressure
19:34
Speaker 1: down there, You just you know, you visit the border
19:36
Speaker 1: all the time, it's in your district. What's the difference
19:39
Speaker 1: visually geographically, morale wise, just fill us in what you
19:43
Speaker 1: found there today.
19:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, I woke up in San Antonio, and then I
19:47
Speaker 2: went to Crystal City, which is about maybe an hour
19:49
Speaker 2: from the border. I was an Eagle Pass, which is
19:51
Speaker 2: along the border. We saw those images along that, and
19:54
Speaker 2: then right now I'm in neil Real. If you remember
19:56
Speaker 2: the Haitians in the under the bridge several years ago,
20:00
Speaker 2: that's right, that's right, that was here in Del Rio. Well,
20:02
Speaker 2: guess what it is a bright, beautiful sunny day. It
20:06
Speaker 2: is not chaotic at all. We've gotten our lives back,
20:09
Speaker 2: and the people here are so grateful for that. They're
20:13
Speaker 2: good people. There's a lot of things happening, but we're
20:16
Speaker 2: just grateful to have our lives back. And a lot
20:18
Speaker 2: of that is due to the policies that President Trump
20:21
Speaker 2: has enacted, and it's due to the Congress passing these
20:24
Speaker 2: bills that have given the funding to go out there.
20:27
Speaker 2: We just were about to pass the Homeland Security Approach
20:30
Speaker 2: bill that's gonna have funding for twenty two thousand customs
20:34
Speaker 2: and Border Patrol, good water protection agents. Those type of
20:38
Speaker 2: numbers is what is what is making this all work.
20:42
Speaker 1: When you went down there with Elon musk It was
20:44
Speaker 1: an historic visit. By the way, we literally were watching
20:48
Speaker 1: people come across the border illegally and nobody was doing
20:50
Speaker 1: anything about it. They wanted to Border patrol wanted to,
20:52
Speaker 1: but they weren't allowed to. The policies then by more
20:56
Speaker 1: majorcis and auto pen were sucks that you just come
20:59
Speaker 1: in and don't you get here, get temporary status, put
21:02
Speaker 1: you in the inside of the United States of America.
21:04
Speaker 1: We never find you. Gain fine, you've got to courtate
21:06
Speaker 1: seven years from now on a name that you probably
21:09
Speaker 1: made up as you came across. Compare and contrast, is
21:11
Speaker 1: anybody coming across illegally.
21:13
Speaker 2: Now they're trying to I mean, it'll never stop if
21:18
Speaker 2: you will. There always will be people that trying to
21:20
Speaker 2: get smuggled in in different cases. But I'm talking about
21:24
Speaker 2: we're defeating them because once again, like the border is
21:27
Speaker 2: oftentimes hundreds of miles before you get to our border,
21:31
Speaker 2: so there's an opportunity for us to go out and
21:34
Speaker 2: capture them before they enter our border. And that's what
21:36
Speaker 2: we're doing. When I hosted Elon, there's a picture of
21:39
Speaker 2: me and Elon overlooking this crowd of like one hundred
21:43
Speaker 2: different folks and I'll never forget. When we're in my
21:46
Speaker 2: pickup truck, I said, look, elon, I'm like, there are thousands.
21:49
Speaker 2: There's ten thousand people that have come over illegally in
21:52
Speaker 2: this sector alone this month, and zero have been sent back.
21:58
Speaker 2: He goes zero one person, not one person was sent back.
22:03
Speaker 2: That is night and day difference, and a lot of
22:05
Speaker 2: it is due to President Trump and Homeland Security for
22:08
Speaker 2: enacting these laws.
22:09
Speaker 1: Well, I think you had a lot to do with
22:10
Speaker 1: him going full fledged Maga. I think you had a
22:12
Speaker 1: lot to do with him going full fledged. America. First,
22:14
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you guys made that visit. Let me
22:17
Speaker 1: talk to you as a soldier somebody who could have
22:20
Speaker 1: you weren't in the Army Rangers, right, I.
22:23
Speaker 2: Was in the Navy. I was in the Navy, Okay.
22:26
Speaker 1: I just want to make sure that like you weren't
22:28
Speaker 1: Special Forces, though doesn't take anything away from you. I
22:30
Speaker 1: just wondered if you would ever gone in a mission
22:33
Speaker 1: like this one now in the eternal part of Iraq,
22:36
Speaker 1: you probably dealt with an awful lot of stuff that
22:37
Speaker 1: were secret missions and everything else. I just wondered if
22:40
Speaker 1: if you could give me your opinion as a veteran
22:42
Speaker 1: when you see how unbelievable this mission was. They go
22:46
Speaker 1: in with one hundred and fifty planes, no American deaths
22:50
Speaker 1: get you kill the elite guard from Russia, I think,
22:54
Speaker 1: from Cuba, I think from China, I think and those
22:57
Speaker 1: who were directly the special forces that were active, du
23:00
Speaker 1: and his wife, and you take the guy out of
23:02
Speaker 1: the country in a matter of a couple of hours.
23:04
Speaker 1: Tony just I mean, it sounds like a movie. It's unbelievable.
23:08
Speaker 1: We heard happened there.
23:10
Speaker 2: It is a reminder that our military is unmatched. And
23:14
Speaker 2: I think back to my time in Afghanistan where we
23:16
Speaker 2: hunted down these terrorists, and how complex these these missions were,
23:22
Speaker 2: where you needed air and you needed ground, and you
23:25
Speaker 2: needed all these communications and you needed you basically had
23:28
Speaker 2: to run a perfect play, and we did that. Night
23:31
Speaker 2: after night we were scooping up these terrorists. And I
23:34
Speaker 2: think back to what happened in Venezuela. It was the
23:37
Speaker 2: same thing, but just at a large scale for us
23:40
Speaker 2: to do that. Think about it with with how perfect
23:43
Speaker 2: that thing was ran. If there was one thing wrong,
23:46
Speaker 2: the media, with the legacy media would go nuts and
23:50
Speaker 2: they'd shoot holes and all the different things. But it
23:53
Speaker 2: was flawless, and it was flawless because it was a plan.
23:57
Speaker 2: It was well executed to perfection, and it just goes
24:00
Speaker 2: to show the world anywhere, any place, if you're against
24:04
Speaker 2: the United States, it's Now's not the time. There's a
24:08
Speaker 2: new sheriff in town. And President Trump is he means business.
24:12
Speaker 2: He puts action to his words.
24:14
Speaker 1: I know that you were in Afghanistan when you're also
24:16
Speaker 1: in Iraq or not.
24:18
Speaker 2: I was in Iraq as well.
24:20
Speaker 1: I thought so, And thank you so much for your service,
24:22
Speaker 1: and thank you for the insight on that. Again, you
24:24
Speaker 1: talk to people in Latin America all the time. I
24:26
Speaker 1: believe that you met with the Guatemalan president at some
24:28
Speaker 1: point trying to figure out what the hell was going on.
24:31
Speaker 1: Talk to me about the people of Venezuela and what
24:34
Speaker 1: they can expect now. And here's what I mean. Maduro
24:36
Speaker 1: is out, but his vice president is the interim president.
24:39
Speaker 1: We know that a guy in twenty four won by
24:41
Speaker 1: our account seventy percent to thirty percent over Maduro, and
24:45
Speaker 1: that he was exiled or arrested or something. And Maduro said, yeah,
24:48
Speaker 1: we recounted and I really ended up winning. Does that
24:51
Speaker 1: guy deserve to be the president. Does this person who's
24:54
Speaker 1: there now deserve to be the president? Would you like
24:56
Speaker 1: to see free and open elections sooner than later? In Venezuela.
25:00
Speaker 1: We don't want to run the joint for any length
25:02
Speaker 1: of time. So what happens next?
25:03
Speaker 2: Do you think? Yeah, one is I don't want to
25:07
Speaker 2: see Americans in Venezuela. Uh, you know, we get into
25:10
Speaker 2: wars and we never get out of them. And two,
25:13
Speaker 2: I'd like to see the Venezuelan people, uh, you know,
25:16
Speaker 2: be free. And that place is a beautiful place that
25:19
Speaker 2: has lots of different things to offer. It was a
25:22
Speaker 2: great country for a long time until the socialist rented
25:25
Speaker 2: into the ground. I also think that from a military standpoint,
25:28
Speaker 2: I think that back to my time in Iraq, where
25:30
Speaker 2: we had these deck of cards. You remember the deck
25:31
Speaker 2: of cards PAGs where it was like the ace of
25:33
Speaker 2: spades and the King and the jack. There was all
25:35
Speaker 2: these difference. All the bad guys were on a deck
25:38
Speaker 2: of cards. We would joke it's like, hey, we scooped
25:41
Speaker 2: up you know the Jack of spades yesterday, but nothing changed.
25:45
Speaker 2: It was like playing whackable, you know. So so when
25:48
Speaker 2: I think of Maduro, I go, yes, he's one guy.
25:51
Speaker 2: But when when an organizations has its tentacles in a
25:55
Speaker 2: country for that long, it normally takes more than just
25:58
Speaker 2: you know, burning one hard if you will. And it's
26:01
Speaker 2: a good start, but hopefully it's an eye opener to
26:04
Speaker 2: that to that regime. That change has to happen either
26:08
Speaker 2: internally or change will happen externally.
26:11
Speaker 1: Well, do you think the guy who won has a
26:12
Speaker 1: claim or would you like to see an election soon?
26:16
Speaker 2: I mean, he probably has a claim. I'd say, hey,
26:18
Speaker 2: I just won this election. Uh, but I imagine you know,
26:22
Speaker 2: a new set of elections should occur either way. I
26:25
Speaker 2: mean ideally, probably a new election should occur, and the
26:29
Speaker 2: sooner that can take place with with the right you know,
26:33
Speaker 2: uh international Uh folks making there, but but don't follow
26:37
Speaker 2: California standards. So I don't want to. I don't want
26:39
Speaker 2: an election to drag out for two weeks and then go,
26:42
Speaker 2: oh it turns out you lost. It has to be
26:44
Speaker 2: Texas standards where you know, you get your results the
26:47
Speaker 2: same day.
26:48
Speaker 1: Photo I D make sure you mail in ballots maybe
26:52
Speaker 1: absentee for military. I'm with you. Let me finish with this.
26:56
Speaker 1: There was an Iranian component there Iran was in Venus.
27:00
Speaker 1: It probably still is on some level. Russia was there,
27:03
Speaker 1: China was there. They're trying to infiltrate our hemisphere, and
27:06
Speaker 1: they did it at Cuba exactly right. They did it
27:09
Speaker 1: to get close to us and dominate the hemisphere. Now
27:12
Speaker 1: you've got the Cuban leader who's you know, saber rattling,
27:14
Speaker 1: but he sounds scared. The Columbian leader with saber rattling.
27:16
Speaker 1: Now he's like, hey, can we meet President Trump. So
27:18
Speaker 1: it's a good thing, But I want to talk about
27:20
Speaker 1: the Iranian component, if you don't mind. Nobody's reporting it
27:23
Speaker 1: here in the legacy media, and they're misreporting it around
27:25
Speaker 1: the world. There are thousands of people in the streets
27:28
Speaker 1: of Iran right now insisting that the theocracy is removed.
27:33
Speaker 1: They are being killed in the streets. They're lying dead
27:35
Speaker 1: in the streets just to try to get freedom. Tony,
27:37
Speaker 1: what involvement, if any, should we have, not on mean militarily.
27:40
Speaker 1: But when Iran had a chance under Obama, you know
27:43
Speaker 1: this as well as I do, he said We're not
27:45
Speaker 1: going to meddle in the elections of the Islamic Republic
27:48
Speaker 1: of Iran, and then he left it alone. And people
27:50
Speaker 1: were being killed in the streets. They're only doing this
27:53
Speaker 1: because they saw how easy it was for us to
27:55
Speaker 1: get Maduro, or it seemed to be easy. I'm sure
27:57
Speaker 1: it wasn't easy. So this is why they're rising up.
28:00
Speaker 1: What should we do, if anything, to show moral support
28:03
Speaker 1: at least to the people of Iran right now?
28:07
Speaker 2: The people of Iran are no different than the people
28:09
Speaker 2: of Venezuela. They deserve it tof be free and once again.
28:12
Speaker 2: Iran was a beautiful country for a very long time,
28:15
Speaker 2: and it can be a beautiful country again. I think
28:17
Speaker 2: the United States role is we should be the world
28:20
Speaker 2: leader once again. I don't envision a world where we
28:22
Speaker 2: go out and put boots on ground in every soil
28:25
Speaker 2: we can get our hands on. Because I've been in
28:28
Speaker 2: endless wars. I'm no fan of endless wars. But we
28:31
Speaker 2: should encourage people to rise up and to take back
28:35
Speaker 2: their own communities and to basically organically take over their
28:40
Speaker 2: country again. And we have to empower them. We can't
28:42
Speaker 2: just go, hey, best of luck, go out there and
28:44
Speaker 2: get them. We have to empower them in simple ways,
28:47
Speaker 2: you know, just having access to internet and having access
28:50
Speaker 2: to real information. That's what I love about Elon Musk too.
28:53
Speaker 2: You know his starlink works and he has turned it
28:56
Speaker 2: on for so many millions of people. That freedom gives
28:59
Speaker 2: you the empowerment you need to go. Wait a second,
29:02
Speaker 2: If they can do that in another part of the world,
29:04
Speaker 2: why can't we do that here? That to me, is
29:07
Speaker 2: one of the most powerful things we can do as
29:09
Speaker 2: a country.
29:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I couldn't agree more. And I wish the
29:11
Speaker 1: legacy media would get off their asses and actually show this.
29:13
Speaker 1: I'm not sure why they're not showing what's going on
29:14
Speaker 1: in Iran. If they did show it, I think it
29:16
Speaker 1: would embolden the people of Iran as well. I said
29:18
Speaker 1: that was it, But let's finish with China quickly. That
29:21
Speaker 1: China a threat to Taiwan has been real for a
29:24
Speaker 1: long time. It now appears to me that China just
29:27
Speaker 1: got a wake up call that if you try it,
29:29
Speaker 1: President Trump might do something to stop you. And I'm
29:32
Speaker 1: not saying military there either. You and I agree, no
29:34
Speaker 1: boots on the ground in all these foreign countries. But
29:36
Speaker 1: Taiwan has to understand it. It has to realize that we
29:39
Speaker 1: have their back, at least morally, and plus we've got
29:41
Speaker 1: weaponry that we've sold to them as well. That's there.
29:44
Speaker 1: Does this give China pause, Tony, do you think to
29:46
Speaker 1: not do anything against Taiwan right now?
29:49
Speaker 2: I think it does. I mean, they were on this
29:51
Speaker 2: path where they were constantly you know, they didn't blockades
29:54
Speaker 2: of the island, and they were intruding on Taiwanese airspace,
29:58
Speaker 2: and they were pushing the envelope more and more, or
30:00
Speaker 2: like a child, pushing the envelope more and more. What
30:02
Speaker 2: President Trump has done is he has come and he
30:05
Speaker 2: has reset the international relations table and he said, whatever
30:09
Speaker 2: the last guy did, I'm not I'm going to do
30:11
Speaker 2: the exact opposite. America is going to be not only
30:13
Speaker 2: are we going to take care of Americans, but we're
30:15
Speaker 2: going to make sure that the world is a much
30:17
Speaker 2: different place where these dictators and these you know, these
30:21
Speaker 2: these folks that have gotten away with murder to be
30:24
Speaker 2: frank Is no more, and you know, the the we
30:28
Speaker 2: empower those to have freedoms.
30:31
Speaker 1: The fact is China was in Venezuela just the week
30:34
Speaker 1: before we did this raid, and they they got a
30:36
Speaker 1: real they got a severe wake up call, and I
30:38
Speaker 1: think they're on their heels. I hope they are I'm
30:40
Speaker 1: not going to under underrate them and think, Okay, not
30:42
Speaker 1: a big deal anymore. But I think they're all going
30:44
Speaker 1: to have to rethink their their their policies because this
30:47
Speaker 1: guy has shown President Trump has shown he's not playing around.
30:50
Speaker 1: It's Tony Gonzalez, US Representative District twenty three from the
30:52
Speaker 1: great state of Texas and a friend of ours. Tony,
30:55
Speaker 1: thanks familiar for the time today.
30:57
Speaker 2: Thanks bags, God blessed, take care, Happy New Year.
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