Latest / Making Cents / NZ's Hottest Jobs in 2026… And How to Get Paid More in Any of Them
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- 0:00Some
- 0:00jobs
- 0:01are
- 0:01still
- 0:01making
- 0:02serious
- 0:03money
- 0:03right
- 0:03now,
- 0:04even
- 0:04though
- 0:04it's
- 0:04tough
- 0:05out
- 0:05there,
- 0:05because
- 0:06let's
- 0:06be
- 0:07real,
- 0:07it
- 0:08is
- 0:08tough
- 0:09out
- 0:09there.
- 0:09But
- 0:10these
- 0:10are
- 0:11times
- 0:11when
- 0:11we
- 0:12can
- 0:12lay
- 0:12the
- 0:12groundwork
- 0:13for
- 0:13springing
- 0:14ahead
- 0:14in
- 0:14the
- 0:15future
- 0:16where
- 0:16getting
- 0:17strategic
- 0:18really
- 0:19pays
- 0:19off.
- 0:20There
- 0:20are
- 0:21some
- 0:21jobs
- 0:21still
- 0:22booming,
- 0:23so
- 0:23we're
- 0:23talking
- 0:24hiring
- 0:24up
- 0:24nearly
- 0:25200%
- 0:27in
- 0:27a
- 0:27year.
- 0:28But
- 0:29it's
- 0:30so
- 0:30different
- 0:31by
- 0:31industry
- 0:32and
- 0:33by
- 0:33skill
- 0:34set.
- 0:34And
- 0:34that's
- 0:34the
- 0:35key.
- 0:35You
- 0:36need
- 0:36to
- 0:36know
- 0:36the
- 0:37trends.
- 0:37When
- 0:38we're
- 0:38in
- 0:38an
- 0:38environment
- 0:39like
- 0:39this,
- 0:40when
- 0:40you
- 0:40know
- 0:41what
- 0:41is
- 0:41happening,
- 0:42it
- 0:42lets
- 0:42you
- 0:43make
- 0:43the
- 0:43moves
- 0:43that
- 0:44still
- 0:44get
- 0:44you
- 0:44ahead.
- 0:45And
- 0:45this
- 0:45applies
- 0:46whether
- 0:46you're
- 0:46wondering
- 0:47about
- 0:47changing
- 0:48jobs,
- 0:48changing
- 0:49your
- 0:49entire
- 0:50career,
- 0:50or
- 0:51just
- 0:51wanting
- 0:52a
- 0:52pay
- 0:52rise.
- 0:53Where
- 0:53you
- 0:53are
- 0:54knowing
- 0:54what's
- 0:55happening
- 0:56in
- 0:56the
- 0:56job
- 0:56market
- 0:57right
- 0:57now
- 0:57can
- 0:58help
- 0:58you
- 0:58get
- 0:59that
- 0:59all
- 0:59important
- 1:00strategy
- 1:01together
- 1:01to
- 1:02make
- 1:02that
- 1:02happen.
- 1:03Knowledge
- 1:04is
- 1:04the
- 1:04key
- 1:04to
- 1:04getting
- 1:05more
- 1:05money
- 1:05coming
- 1:05in,
- 1:06just
- 1:07waiting
- 1:07for
- 1:07things
- 1:07to
- 1:08get
- 1:08better
- 1:08and
- 1:08land
- 1:09in
- 1:09your
- 1:09lap.
- 1:10That's
- 1:10not
- 1:10it.
- 1:11You
- 1:11could
- 1:11be
- 1:12waiting
- 1:12a
- 1:12long
- 1:13time,
- 1:13you
- 1:13could
- 1:13be
- 1:13waiting
- 1:14forever.
- 1:14So
- 1:15today
- 1:15we're
- 1:15getting
- 1:15into
- 1:15which
- 1:16jobs
- 1:16are
- 1:16making
- 1:17the
- 1:17most
- 1:17money
- 1:18right
- 1:18now
- 1:18and
- 1:19what
- 1:19that
- 1:19tells
- 1:20us
- 1:20about
- 1:20where
- 1:21the
- 1:21economy
- 1:21is
- 1:22actually,
- 1:22actually
- 1:22heading.
- 1:23We're
- 1:23going
- 1:24to
- 1:24talk
- 1:24about
- 1:24AI
- 1:24honestly,
- 1:25because
- 1:25you
- 1:26can
- 1:26not
- 1:26like
- 1:26it,
- 1:27but
- 1:27you
- 1:27can't
- 1:27really
- 1:28ignore
- 1:28it
- 1:28either.
- 1:29And
- 1:29then
- 1:29we're
- 1:30getting
- 1:30very
- 1:31practical.
- 1:32How
- 1:32to
- 1:32make
- 1:32yourself
- 1:33the
- 1:33person
- 1:34your
- 1:34employer
- 1:35can't
- 1:35afford
- 1:35to
- 1:35lose,
- 1:36how
- 1:36to
- 1:36job
- 1:37hunt
- 1:37strategically
- 1:38in
- 1:38a
- 1:38market
- 1:39that's
- 1:40moved,
- 1:41and
- 1:41how
- 1:41to
- 1:42ask
- 1:42for
- 1:42a
- 1:42pay
- 1:42rise
- 1:43with
- 1:43actual
- 1:44scripts,
- 1:45not
- 1:45just
- 1:45vague
- 1:46fluffy
- 1:47advice
- 1:47about
- 1:47knowing
- 1:48your
- 1:48worth.
- 1:49The
- 1:49real
- 1:50nitty
- 1:50gritty
- 1:51of
- 1:51this.
- 1:51So
- 1:52welcome
- 1:52to
- 1:52Making
- 1:52Sense.
- 1:53It's
- 1:53the
- 1:53podcast
- 1:53for
- 1:54people
- 1:54who
- 1:54want
- 1:54financial
- 1:54freedom
- 1:55without
- 1:55giving
- 1:56up
- 1:56their
- 1:56coffee.
- 1:57I'm
- 1:57Frances
- 1:57Cook,
- 1:58financial
- 1:58journalist
- 1:58and
- 1:59fellow
- 1:59financial
- 1:59freedom
- 2:00seeker
- 2:00who
- 2:00makes
- 2:01money
- 2:01simple
- 2:01for
- 2:01you.
- 2:02I
- 2:03want
- 2:03to
- 2:03help
- 2:03as
- 2:03many
- 2:04people
- 2:04as
- 2:04possible
- 2:05reach
- 2:05financial
- 2:05freedom
- 2:06by
- 2:06taking
- 2:07control
- 2:07of
- 2:07their
- 2:08money.
- 2:08You
- 2:08can
- 2:09help
- 2:09me
- 2:09in
- 2:09that
- 2:09mission
- 2:10two
- 2:10really
- 2:11easy
- 2:11ways.
- 2:12First
- 2:12hit
- 2:13subscribe
- 2:13wherever
- 2:14you
- 2:14like
- 2:14to
- 2:14listen.
- 2:15You
- 2:15YouTube,
- 2:15Spotify,
- 2:16Apple,
- 2:16podcasts
- 2:17or
- 2:17any
- 2:17other
- 2:17podcast
- 2:18player.
- 2:19Then
- 2:19send
- 2:20this
- 2:20episode
- 2:20to
- 2:20a
- 2:21friend
- 2:21so
- 2:21we
- 2:21can
- 2:21all
- 2:22level
- 2:22up
- 2:22together.
- 2:23Then
- 2:23the
- 2:23show
- 2:24grows
- 2:24and
- 2:24I
- 2:24can
- 2:25keep
- 2:25giving
- 2:25you
- 2:25the
- 2:25money
- 2:26info
- 2:26that
- 2:27makes
- 2:27a
- 2:27difference
- 2:27for
- 2:28your
- 2:28life.
- 2:29Okay,
- 2:29back
- 2:29to
- 2:29it.
- 2:30Okay,
- 2:31let's
- 2:31jump
- 2:31in
- 2:31because
- 2:32I
- 2:32want
- 2:32to
- 2:32talk
- 2:32about
- 2:32what
- 2:33you
- 2:33can
- 2:33actually
- 2:34do,
- 2:35whatever
- 2:35situation
- 2:35you're
- 2:36in
- 2:36to
- 2:36get
- 2:37yourself
- 2:37paid.
- 2:38Well,
- 2:38but
- 2:39before
- 2:39we
- 2:39can
- 2:39do
- 2:40that,
- 2:40I
- 2:41just
- 2:41have
- 2:41to
- 2:41run
- 2:42through
- 2:42a
- 2:42little
- 2:42bit
- 2:42of
- 2:43the
- 2:43state
- 2:43of
- 2:43play
- 2:43here
- 2:44where
- 2:44things
- 2:44are
- 2:45actually
- 2:45at
- 2:46currently.
- 2:46And
- 2:47look,
- 2:48it
- 2:48is
- 2:48A
- 2:48little
- 2:49bit
- 2:49grim.
- 2:49Okay.
- 2:51We're
- 2:51not
- 2:51in
- 2:51the
- 2:51business
- 2:52of
- 2:52denying
- 2:53facts
- 2:53here.
- 2:54We
- 2:54are
- 2:54in
- 2:55the
- 2:55business
- 2:55of
- 2:56looking
- 2:56at
- 2:57reality
- 2:58and
- 2:58then
- 2:58taking
- 2:59control
- 3:00of
- 3:00the
- 3:00things
- 3:00that
- 3:01we
- 3:01can.
- 3:01We've
- 3:02got
- 3:02the
- 3:02latest
- 3:02figures
- 3:02from
- 3:03Stats
- 3:03and
- 3:03Z
- 3:03on
- 3:04unemployment.
- 3:04On
- 3:05the
- 3:05surface
- 3:05of
- 3:06it,
- 3:06it's
- 3:07probably
- 3:07what
- 3:07most
- 3:08of
- 3:08us
- 3:08are
- 3:08suspecting
- 3:09right
- 3:09now.
- 3:09How
- 3:10things
- 3:10are
- 3:10feeling.
- 3:115.3%
- 3:12unemployment
- 3:13in
- 3:13the
- 3:13March
- 3:13quarter,
- 3:14which
- 3:14is
- 3:15historically
- 3:16not
- 3:16a
- 3:16great
- 3:17number,
- 3:17that's
- 3:18kind
- 3:19medium
- 3:19to
- 3:19high,
- 3:20but
- 3:20it
- 3:20is
- 3:21down
- 3:21slightly
- 3:22from
- 3:22what
- 3:22it
- 3:22was
- 3:23before.
- 3:23It
- 3:23was
- 3:235.4%
- 3:25before
- 3:25and
- 3:25now
- 3:25it's
- 3:265.3%.
- 3:27So,
- 3:27you
- 3:27know,
- 3:27heading
- 3:28the
- 3:28right
- 3:28direction.
- 3:28But
- 3:29unfortunately
- 3:29that
- 3:30is
- 3:30a
- 3:30little
- 3:30bit
- 3:30of
- 3:31good
- 3:31news
- 3:31with
- 3:32Devil
- 3:32in
- 3:33the
- 3:33Detail
- 3:33because
- 3:33remember
- 3:34I've
- 3:34been
- 3:34reading
- 3:34these
- 3:35reports
- 3:35for
- 3:35a
- 3:35little
- 3:36while
- 3:36now
- 3:36and
- 3:36you've
- 3:37got
- 3:37to
- 3:37get
- 3:38underneath
- 3:39that
- 3:39big
- 3:40average
- 3:41number
- 3:41to
- 3:41understand
- 3:42what's
- 3:42actually
- 3:43happening.
- 3:44And
- 3:45there's
- 3:45another
- 3:46number
- 3:47buried
- 3:47in
- 3:47these
- 3:47reports
- 3:48called
- 3:49underutilization.
- 3:51Now
- 3:51what
- 3:52that
- 3:52is
- 3:52is
- 3:52that's
- 3:53people
- 3:53who
- 3:53want
- 3:54to
- 3:54be
- 3:54doing
- 3:55more
- 3:55work
- 3:56but
- 3:56they
- 3:57can't,
- 3:57they
- 3:57can't
- 3:58find
- 3:58it.
- 3:59So
- 3:59they
- 3:59might
- 3:59be
- 4:00part
- 4:00time
- 4:01or
- 4:01casual
- 4:02when
- 4:03what
- 4:03they
- 4:03really
- 4:04want
- 4:04and
- 4:04probably
- 4:05need
- 4:05is
- 4:06a
- 4:06full
- 4:06time
- 4:06job.
- 4:07Now
- 4:07the
- 4:07underutilization
- 4:09rate
- 4:10is
- 4:10at
- 4:1012.9%
- 4:12and
- 4:12that's
- 4:13hundreds
- 4:14of
- 4:14thousands
- 4:15of
- 4:15people
- 4:16needing
- 4:16more
- 4:17work
- 4:17than
- 4:18they
- 4:18can
- 4:18actually
- 4:18get
- 4:18right
- 4:19now.
- 4:19And
- 4:19it's
- 4:20also
- 4:20not
- 4:21evenly
- 4:22spread
- 4:22as
- 4:23well.
- 4:23So
- 4:23if
- 4:23you're
- 4:23in
- 4:23Auckland
- 4:24or
- 4:24Wellington,
- 4:25it's
- 4:26worse.
- 4:27Unemployment
- 4:27in
- 4:28both
- 4:28those
- 4:28big
- 4:29cities
- 4:29is
- 4:29sitting
- 4:30above
- 4:316%
- 4:32which
- 4:32is
- 4:32a
- 4:33tough
- 4:33one
- 4:33for
- 4:34people
- 4:34because
- 4:34those
- 4:35are
- 4:35expensive
- 4:35places
- 4:36to
- 4:36live
- 4:37if
- 4:37you're
- 4:38young.
- 4:39It
- 4:39is
- 4:39brutal,
- 4:40frankly,
- 4:40no
- 4:41other
- 4:41way
- 4:41to
- 4:41describe
- 4:41it.
- 4:42Youth
- 4:42unemployment,
- 4:4315
- 4:43to
- 4:4419
- 4:44year
- 4:44olds,
- 4:45that's
- 4:46sitting
- 4:46at
- 4:46nearly
- 4:4725%.
- 4:48It
- 4:48is
- 4:4824.9%
- 4:50if
- 4:50you
- 4:50would
- 4:50like
- 4:51to
- 4:51be
- 4:51precise.
- 4:52So
- 4:53that
- 4:53is
- 4:53one
- 4:53in
- 4:54four
- 4:54of
- 4:55the
- 4:5515
- 4:55to
- 4:5619
- 4:56year
- 4:56olds
- 4:57and
- 4:57it's
- 4:5712.2%
- 4:59for
- 4:59people
- 5:00aged
- 5:0020
- 5:01to
- 5:0124.
- 5:03Now
- 5:03this
- 5:04isn't
- 5:04just
- 5:04that
- 5:05their
- 5:05kids
- 5:05are
- 5:06not
- 5:06working
- 5:07yet
- 5:07to
- 5:08be
- 5:08counted
- 5:09in
- 5:09these
- 5:09unemployment
- 5:10rates
- 5:11in
- 5:11New
- 5:11Zealand,
- 5:11you
- 5:12have
- 5:12to
- 5:12be
- 5:13without
- 5:13a
- 5:13paid
- 5:14job
- 5:14and
- 5:15available
- 5:15for
- 5:16work
- 5:16and
- 5:17have
- 5:17actively
- 5:17been
- 5:18looking
- 5:18for
- 5:19work
- 5:20in
- 5:20the
- 5:20past
- 5:20four
- 5:21weeks.
- 5:22So
- 5:22just
- 5:22looking
- 5:22at
- 5:22job
- 5:23ads
- 5:23doesn't
- 5:23count.
- 5:24You
- 5:24have
- 5:24to
- 5:24have
- 5:24actually
- 5:25applied
- 5:26or
- 5:27contacted
- 5:28employers.
- 5:29So
- 5:29it's
- 5:29just
- 5:29really
- 5:30tough
- 5:30out
- 5:30there.
- 5:31Every
- 5:31economist
- 5:32who
- 5:33has
- 5:33commented
- 5:34on
- 5:34these
- 5:34numbers
- 5:35when
- 5:35they
- 5:35came
- 5:35out
- 5:37basically
- 5:37said
- 5:38the
- 5:38same
- 5:38thing,
- 5:39that
- 5:40this
- 5:41is
- 5:42kind
- 5:42of
- 5:42okay
- 5:42for
- 5:43now,
- 5:43it's
- 5:43looking
- 5:44better.
- 5:45But
- 5:46the
- 5:46oil
- 5:47shock
- 5:48hasn't
- 5:48hit
- 5:48the
- 5:49labor
- 5:49market
- 5:49yet.
- 5:51These
- 5:51are
- 5:51the
- 5:51numbers
- 5:52from
- 5:53before
- 5:54the
- 5:54worst
- 5:55of
- 5:55it.
- 5:56And
- 5:56businesses
- 5:57are
- 5:57still
- 5:57working
- 5:58out
- 5:58what
- 5:59higher
- 5:59fuel
- 5:59costs
- 6:00means
- 6:00for
- 6:00them,
- 6:01what
- 6:01it
- 6:01means
- 6:02for
- 6:02their
- 6:02margins,
- 6:03what
- 6:03it
- 6:04means
- 6:04for
- 6:04their
- 6:04headcount.
- 6:06Interest
- 6:06rates
- 6:07are
- 6:07starting
- 6:08to
- 6:08go
- 6:08up
- 6:09around
- 6:10the
- 6:10world,
- 6:10including
- 6:11New
- 6:11Zealand.
- 6:12And
- 6:12businesses
- 6:13use
- 6:13a
- 6:14lot
- 6:14of
- 6:14debt
- 6:15to
- 6:15grow
- 6:16and
- 6:16expand
- 6:16and
- 6:16to
- 6:17hire
- 6:17people.
- 6:18So
- 6:19those
- 6:19interest
- 6:19rates
- 6:20going
- 6:20up
- 6:21means
- 6:21that
- 6:21they
- 6:21have
- 6:22higher
- 6:23costs
- 6:23and
- 6:24they
- 6:24get
- 6:24more
- 6:25cautious
- 6:25about
- 6:26things
- 6:26like
- 6:26employing
- 6:27people.
- 6:29And
- 6:29also,
- 6:30you
- 6:30know,
- 6:30it's
- 6:31the
- 6:31oil
- 6:31shock
- 6:33of
- 6:33right
- 6:34now
- 6:34hasn't
- 6:35really
- 6:35fully
- 6:36hit
- 6:36yet.
- 6:37And
- 6:37there
- 6:37are
- 6:37still
- 6:38rumblings
- 6:38that
- 6:39the
- 6:39oil
- 6:39shock
- 6:40is
- 6:40going
- 6:40to
- 6:40keep
- 6:40getting
- 6:41worse,
- 6:41that
- 6:42it's
- 6:42going
- 6:43to
- 6:43really
- 6:43properly
- 6:43start
- 6:43to
- 6:44hit
- 6:44around
- 6:45July,
- 6:46even
- 6:47September.
- 6:48So
- 6:48this
- 6:49is
- 6:49a
- 6:49little
- 6:49bit
- 6:51calm
- 6:51before
- 6:51storm.
- 6:53It's
- 6:53worth
- 6:54knowing,
- 6:54it's
- 6:55worth
- 6:55factoring
- 6:56that
- 6:56in.
- 6:57So
- 6:57just
- 6:57know
- 6:58I
- 6:58do
- 6:58think
- 6:58it's
- 6:59a
- 6:59little
- 6:59bit
- 6:59rough
- 7:00right
- 7:00now
- 7:00and
- 7:00it's
- 7:01possibly
- 7:02about
- 7:02to
- 7:02get
- 7:02tougher.
- 7:03But
- 7:04okay,
- 7:05that
- 7:05is
- 7:05the
- 7:05grim
- 7:05stuff
- 7:06done.
- 7:06Because
- 7:06that
- 7:06is
- 7:07exactly
- 7:07why
- 7:08this
- 7:08is
- 7:08a
- 7:08time
- 7:08for
- 7:08action.
- 7:09Not
- 7:10sitting
- 7:10around
- 7:10and
- 7:11waiting
- 7:11for
- 7:12someone
- 7:12to
- 7:12rescue
- 7:12you,
- 7:13because
- 7:13they're
- 7:14not
- 7:14going
- 7:14to.
- 7:15Everyone's
- 7:16going
- 7:16to
- 7:16be
- 7:16worried
- 7:17about
- 7:17their
- 7:17own
- 7:18situation.
- 7:19But
- 7:20there
- 7:20are
- 7:20still
- 7:21absolutely
- 7:22some
- 7:23strong
- 7:23possibilities
- 7:24right
- 7:24now
- 7:24across
- 7:25all
- 7:25different
- 7:25types
- 7:26of
- 7:26industries.
- 7:27And
- 7:27if
- 7:27you
- 7:27can
- 7:27get
- 7:28strategic,
- 7:29then
- 7:29you
- 7:29can
- 7:30actually
- 7:30make
- 7:30some
- 7:31big
- 7:31money
- 7:31right
- 7:32now.
- 7:32It's
- 7:33just
- 7:33really
- 7:34not
- 7:34going
- 7:34to
- 7:34happen
- 7:35on
- 7:35its
- 7:35own.
- 7:36You're
- 7:36going
- 7:36to
- 7:36need
- 7:36a
- 7:37strategy.
- 7:37So
- 7:38bad
- 7:38news
- 7:38over
- 7:39back
- 7:39to
- 7:39what
- 7:40you
- 7:40need
- 7:40to
- 7:40know,
- 7:40because
- 7:41it
- 7:41might
- 7:41sound
- 7:41grim,
- 7:42but
- 7:43the
- 7:43job
- 7:43market
- 7:44is
- 7:44definitely
- 7:44not
- 7:45dead.
- 7:45Seek
- 7:46put
- 7:46out
- 7:46some
- 7:46super
- 7:46interesting
- 7:47stats
- 7:47on
- 7:48what
- 7:48they're
- 7:48seeing.
- 7:48And
- 7:49first
- 7:49up,
- 7:49job
- 7:50ads
- 7:50are
- 7:50up
- 7:5113%
- 7:53year
- 7:53on
- 7:53year
- 7:54across
- 7:55the
- 7:55whole
- 7:55country.
- 7:56So
- 7:56like
- 7:57I
- 7:57say,
- 7:57that's
- 7:57definitely
- 7:58not
- 7:59a
- 7:59dead
- 7:59job
- 7:59market,
- 8:00but
- 8:00it
- 8:00is
- 8:01a
- 8:01very
- 8:02picky
- 8:03one.
- 8:03That
- 8:04is
- 8:04the
- 8:04key
- 8:04here.
- 8:05The
- 8:05jobs
- 8:06are
- 8:06not
- 8:06spread
- 8:07evenly.
- 8:07And
- 8:07if
- 8:08you're
- 8:08looking
- 8:08in
- 8:08the
- 8:08wrong
- 8:09places
- 8:10or
- 8:10waiting
- 8:10for
- 8:11the
- 8:11kind
- 8:11of
- 8:11role
- 8:12that
- 8:12was
- 8:12everywhere
- 8:13three
- 8:13years
- 8:13ago,
- 8:15you're
- 8:15gonna
- 8:16have
- 8:16a
- 8:16much
- 8:16harder
- 8:17time
- 8:17than
- 8:18you
- 8:18maybe
- 8:19need
- 8:19to
- 8:19be
- 8:19having.
- 8:20So
- 8:20let's
- 8:20look
- 8:20at
- 8:20where
- 8:20the
- 8:21growth
- 8:21actually
- 8:22is.
- 8:22Okay,
- 8:23so
- 8:23for
- 8:23those
- 8:24watching
- 8:24the
- 8:24video,
- 8:25I'll
- 8:25get
- 8:25this
- 8:25on
- 8:25the
- 8:25screen,
- 8:26but
- 8:26we'll
- 8:27talk
- 8:27through
- 8:27it
- 8:27as
- 8:27well.
- 8:28Seek
- 8:28put
- 8:29out
- 8:29these
- 8:29top
- 8:3010
- 8:30most
- 8:30in
- 8:31demand
- 8:31jobs.
- 8:32And
- 8:32some
- 8:33of
- 8:33them
- 8:33demand
- 8:33is
- 8:34way
- 8:34up.
- 8:35So
- 8:35we've
- 8:36got
- 8:36automation
- 8:36engineers,
- 8:37that's
- 8:37up
- 8:37184%.
- 8:39Salespeople,
- 8:40that's
- 8:41up
- 8:41145%.
- 8:42Truck
- 8:43drivers,
- 8:43up
- 8:44126%.
- 8:46H
- 8:46vac
- 8:46technicians,
- 8:47that's
- 8:48your
- 8:48heating,
- 8:49ventilation,
- 8:50conditioning
- 8:51people,
- 8:51that,
- 8:52that's
- 8:52up
- 8:52118%.
- 8:54Engineering
- 8:55designers
- 8:55up
- 8:56117%.
- 8:58Roofers
- 8:59up
- 8:59108%.
- 9:00And
- 9:01then
- 9:01further
- 9:02down,
- 9:03HIAB
- 9:04crane
- 9:04operators.
- 9:05Hope
- 9:05I'm
- 9:06saying
- 9:06that
- 9:06right.
- 9:07Never
- 9:07come
- 9:07across
- 9:07that
- 9:08job
- 9:08before.
- 9:09Machine
- 9:09operators,
- 9:10interpreters,
- 9:11technical
- 9:11leads.
- 9:13Fascinating
- 9:14list.
- 9:14Now
- 9:14zoom
- 9:15out.
- 9:16Have
- 9:16a
- 9:17little
- 9:17think
- 9:17about
- 9:17that
- 9:17list
- 9:17and
- 9:18what's
- 9:18on
- 9:18it.
- 9:19What
- 9:19do
- 9:19you
- 9:19see?
- 9:20Two
- 9:21very
- 9:21clear
- 9:21trends.
- 9:23The
- 9:23first
- 9:24is
- 9:24physical
- 9:26trades,
- 9:27construction,
- 9:28logistics.
- 9:29Someone
- 9:29has
- 9:30to
- 9:30get
- 9:30on
- 9:30the
- 9:30roof,
- 9:31someone
- 9:31has
- 9:32to
- 9:32drive
- 9:32the
- 9:32truck,
- 9:33someone
- 9:34has
- 9:34to
- 9:35wire
- 9:35the
- 9:35building.
- 9:36The
- 9:37construction
- 9:37sector
- 9:38is
- 9:38up
- 9:3936%
- 9:40year
- 9:41on
- 9:41year.
- 9:41Trades,
- 9:42services,
- 9:43manufacturing,
- 9:44logistics,
- 9:45they're
- 9:45up
- 9:4622%.
- 9:48So
- 9:48basically,
- 9:49physical
- 9:50jobs
- 9:50that
- 9:51are
- 9:51so
- 9:51often
- 9:51quite
- 9:51skilled
- 9:52and
- 9:52so
- 9:53you
- 9:53can
- 9:53get
- 9:53a
- 9:53decent
- 9:53pay
- 9:53rate,
- 9:54but
- 9:54they
- 9:55need
- 9:55a
- 9:55warm
- 9:56body
- 9:56there.
- 9:56It
- 9:57can't
- 9:57be
- 9:57outsourced,
- 9:58it
- 9:58can't
- 9:58be
- 9:58done
- 9:59by
- 9:59a
- 9:59machine,
- 9:59at
- 10:00least
- 10:00not
- 10:00yet.
- 10:01So
- 10:02the
- 10:02second
- 10:02trend
- 10:02here
- 10:03is
- 10:04technical
- 10:05automation
- 10:06engineers,
- 10:06technical
- 10:07leads,
- 10:07software
- 10:08engineers,
- 10:08up
- 10:0926%
- 10:10year
- 10:10on
- 10:10year.
- 10:11The
- 10:11biggest
- 10:11businesses
- 10:12that
- 10:12are
- 10:13investing
- 10:14right
- 10:14now
- 10:15are
- 10:15investing
- 10:15in
- 10:16technology
- 10:17and
- 10:17in
- 10:17skilled
- 10:18people
- 10:19who
- 10:19can
- 10:19run
- 10:20it.
- 10:20What's
- 10:21not
- 10:21on
- 10:21this
- 10:22list?
- 10:22The
- 10:22middle.
- 10:23Hospitality,
- 10:24down.
- 10:24Retail,
- 10:25down.
- 10:25Marketing
- 10:26and
- 10:26customer
- 10:27service,
- 10:27way
- 10:28down.
- 10:28So
- 10:29the
- 10:29job
- 10:29market
- 10:30isn't
- 10:31broken,
- 10:32it's
- 10:32just
- 10:34moved.
- 10:34And
- 10:35if
- 10:35you
- 10:35know
- 10:35where
- 10:35it's
- 10:35moved
- 10:36to,
- 10:37that
- 10:38changes
- 10:38everything.
- 10:39And
- 10:39I
- 10:39think
- 10:39this
- 10:40means
- 10:40we
- 10:40need
- 10:40to
- 10:40talk
- 10:41properly
- 10:41about
- 10:42AI,
- 10:42because
- 10:43it
- 10:43is
- 10:44really
- 10:44the
- 10:44elephant
- 10:45in
- 10:45the
- 10:45room
- 10:45with
- 10:46this
- 10:46conversation.
- 10:47I
- 10:47know
- 10:48a
- 10:48lot
- 10:48of
- 10:48people
- 10:49are
- 10:49really
- 10:50anxious
- 10:50about
- 10:51this
- 10:51issue,
- 10:51and
- 10:51I
- 10:52don't
- 10:52think
- 10:52that's
- 10:52an
- 10:53irrational
- 10:53response
- 10:54because
- 10:54it
- 10:54is
- 10:54a
- 10:54huge
- 10:55change.
- 10:56But
- 10:56I
- 10:57do
- 10:57think
- 10:57that
- 10:57we
- 10:58also
- 10:58have
- 10:58to
- 10:59figure
- 10:59this
- 10:59out
- 11:00because
- 11:00the
- 11:00genie
- 11:01is
- 11:01out
- 11:01of
- 11:01the
- 11:01bottle.
- 11:02You
- 11:02can
- 11:03say,
- 11:03oh,
- 11:04I
- 11:04refuse
- 11:04to
- 11:04know
- 11:04anything
- 11:05about
- 11:05AI.
- 11:06It's
- 11:06evil.
- 11:07It's
- 11:07bad
- 11:07for
- 11:07the
- 11:08planet.
- 11:08It's
- 11:08bad
- 11:08for.
- 11:10Which
- 11:11there
- 11:11are
- 11:11solid
- 11:12points
- 11:12on
- 11:12that
- 11:13front,
- 11:13solid
- 11:14arguments
- 11:14on
- 11:14that,
- 11:15but
- 11:16it's
- 11:16already
- 11:16here.
- 11:17Do
- 11:18you
- 11:18not
- 11:18drive
- 11:18to
- 11:19work
- 11:19because
- 11:20cars
- 11:20are
- 11:20bad
- 11:21for
- 11:21the
- 11:21environment
- 11:22or
- 11:23not
- 11:23use
- 11:23computers
- 11:24because
- 11:25they
- 11:25use
- 11:25electricity?
- 11:26And
- 11:26some
- 11:26electricity
- 11:27is
- 11:27created
- 11:28through
- 11:29burning
- 11:29fossil
- 11:30fuels?
- 11:31I
- 11:32saw
- 11:33a
- 11:33quote
- 11:33the
- 11:33other
- 11:34day
- 11:34about
- 11:35when
- 11:35cars
- 11:36arrived
- 11:37that
- 11:38there
- 11:38were
- 11:38some
- 11:39blacksmiths
- 11:39who
- 11:40worked
- 11:40harder
- 11:40at
- 11:41being
- 11:41really
- 11:41good
- 11:41blacksmiths,
- 11:42and
- 11:42there
- 11:43were
- 11:43some
- 11:43people
- 11:43who
- 11:43became
- 11:44motor
- 11:44mechanics.
- 11:46And
- 11:46I
- 11:46think
- 11:46that's
- 11:46where
- 11:47we're
- 11:47at.
- 11:48I
- 11:48just
- 11:49think
- 11:49that's
- 11:49the
- 11:49change
- 11:50that's
- 11:50underway,
- 11:51like
- 11:52it
- 11:52or
- 11:52not.
- 11:52I'm
- 11:53not
- 11:53saying
- 11:54whether
- 11:54or
- 11:54not
- 11:54I
- 11:54like
- 11:55it.
- 11:55I
- 11:55feel
- 11:56pretty
- 11:56conflicted
- 11:56about
- 11:56it,
- 11:57if
- 11:57I'm
- 11:57honest.
- 11:58I'm
- 11:58still
- 11:58not
- 11:58sure
- 11:58where
- 11:59I
- 11:59land
- 11:59personally,
- 12:01but
- 12:02it's
- 12:02also
- 12:02somewhat
- 12:03irrelevant
- 12:04because
- 12:04it's
- 12:04here.
- 12:06I
- 12:06mean
- 12:06personally,
- 12:07when
- 12:07I
- 12:07think
- 12:07about
- 12:07other
- 12:07big
- 12:08issues,
- 12:08right.
- 12:09I
- 12:09think
- 12:10that
- 12:10social
- 12:11media
- 12:12is
- 12:12probably
- 12:12a
- 12:12net
- 12:13negative
- 12:13for
- 12:14our
- 12:14society.
- 12:15There
- 12:15are
- 12:15some
- 12:15good
- 12:15things
- 12:15from
- 12:16it,
- 12:16but
- 12:16in
- 12:16my
- 12:17personal
- 12:17opinion,
- 12:18more
- 12:18bad.
- 12:19And
- 12:20yet
- 12:20I
- 12:20still
- 12:20use
- 12:21it
- 12:21extensively
- 12:22for
- 12:22my
- 12:22work
- 12:23because
- 12:23I
- 12:24think
- 12:24we
- 12:24desperately
- 12:25need
- 12:25properly
- 12:26researched
- 12:27true
- 12:27money
- 12:28information
- 12:28on
- 12:29social
- 12:29media.
- 12:29I'm
- 12:30not
- 12:30just
- 12:30a
- 12:30bad
- 12:30abandoning
- 12:31it
- 12:31to
- 12:31the
- 12:31grifters
- 12:32so
- 12:33that
- 12:33they're
- 12:33the
- 12:33only
- 12:33ones
- 12:34on
- 12:34your
- 12:34feed
- 12:34talking
- 12:35to
- 12:35you
- 12:35about
- 12:35money.
- 12:36And
- 12:36then
- 12:37I
- 12:37think
- 12:37we
- 12:38should
- 12:38have
- 12:38proper
- 12:39controls
- 12:40on
- 12:40the
- 12:41social
- 12:41media
- 12:41companies
- 12:42so
- 12:42that
- 12:42they
- 12:43have
- 12:43to
- 12:43behave
- 12:43more
- 12:44responsibly.
- 12:45And
- 12:46that's
- 12:46where
- 12:46I
- 12:46land
- 12:46on
- 12:47that.
- 12:47It's
- 12:48probably
- 12:48not
- 12:48a
- 12:48good
- 12:48thing,
- 12:49but
- 12:49here
- 12:49we
- 12:49are,
- 12:50here
- 12:50it
- 12:50is
- 12:50and
- 12:51what
- 12:51am
- 12:51I
- 12:51going
- 12:51to
- 12:51do
- 12:51about
- 12:52it?
- 12:53And
- 12:53I
- 12:53feel
- 12:53the
- 12:53same
- 12:54way
- 12:54about
- 12:54AI.
- 12:55There
- 12:55are
- 12:56some
- 12:56huge
- 12:57possibilities
- 12:57that
- 12:58could
- 12:58come
- 12:58from
- 12:58it
- 12:59for
- 12:59businesses,
- 13:00for
- 13:00employment,
- 13:01for
- 13:01being
- 13:01smarter
- 13:02in
- 13:02how
- 13:03we
- 13:03run
- 13:03our
- 13:03lives.
- 13:04It's
- 13:05already
- 13:05here.
- 13:06We
- 13:07should
- 13:07learn
- 13:08about
- 13:08it,
- 13:08learn
- 13:09how
- 13:09to
- 13:09use
- 13:09it
- 13:09smartly
- 13:10and
- 13:11learn
- 13:11about
- 13:12its
- 13:12very
- 13:12real
- 13:13dangers
- 13:13as
- 13:14well
- 13:15so
- 13:15that
- 13:15we
- 13:15can
- 13:15put
- 13:16limits
- 13:16on
- 13:16it
- 13:17before
- 13:17it
- 13:17gets
- 13:17used
- 13:17in
- 13:18dangerous
- 13:18ways.
- 13:20I
- 13:20am
- 13:20a
- 13:20really
- 13:20strong
- 13:21believer
- 13:22in
- 13:22the
- 13:22saying
- 13:22that
- 13:22if
- 13:23you're
- 13:23not
- 13:23at
- 13:23the
- 13:23table,
- 13:24you're
- 13:24on
- 13:24the
- 13:25menu.
- 13:26So
- 13:26bare
- 13:27minimum,
- 13:27I
- 13:28think
- 13:28we
- 13:28need
- 13:28to
- 13:28understand
- 13:29what's
- 13:29going
- 13:29on
- 13:30with
- 13:30AI
- 13:31and
- 13:31understanding
- 13:32what
- 13:32role
- 13:33we
- 13:33do
- 13:33and
- 13:33don't
- 13:34want
- 13:34it
- 13:34playing
- 13:34in
- 13:35the
- 13:35world.
- 13:36Anywho,
- 13:37that
- 13:37is
- 13:37a
- 13:37slight
- 13:37rant.
- 13:38Let's
- 13:38get
- 13:38back
- 13:38to
- 13:39the
- 13:39jobs
- 13:39question.
- 13:40I
- 13:40think
- 13:40a
- 13:41lot
- 13:41of
- 13:41AI
- 13:42conversations
- 13:43are
- 13:43either
- 13:44panicking
- 13:44about
- 13:45the
- 13:45wrong
- 13:45thing
- 13:46or
- 13:46sticking
- 13:47their
- 13:47heads
- 13:47in
- 13:47the
- 13:47sand
- 13:48entirely.
- 13:49Neither
- 13:49of
- 13:50those
- 13:50are
- 13:50going
- 13:50to
- 13:50help
- 13:50you.
- 13:51So
- 13:51here's
- 13:52the
- 13:52honest
- 13:52picture
- 13:53SEEK
- 13:53data
- 13:54shows
- 13:54AI
- 13:55mentions
- 13:55in
- 13:55job
- 13:56ads
- 13:56are
- 13:56up
- 13:56143%
- 13:58in
- 13:59the
- 13:59past
- 13:59year
- 14:00and
- 14:00it's
- 14:00over
- 14:01500%
- 14:02up
- 14:02what
- 14:03they
- 14:03were
- 14:03in
- 14:032019.
- 14:04Now
- 14:05that
- 14:06sounds
- 14:06huge,
- 14:07doesn't
- 14:07it?
- 14:08But
- 14:08there
- 14:09is
- 14:09a
- 14:09trick
- 14:10to
- 14:10know
- 14:10about
- 14:11big
- 14:11percentage
- 14:12changes.
- 14:13It
- 14:13can
- 14:13be
- 14:14easy
- 14:14to
- 14:15have
- 14:15a
- 14:15big
- 14:15percentage
- 14:16jump
- 14:17from
- 14:17a
- 14:17small
- 14:18number.
- 14:19If
- 14:19you
- 14:20have
- 14:20one
- 14:20of
- 14:20something
- 14:21and
- 14:21then
- 14:22one
- 14:22more,
- 14:23that's
- 14:23a
- 14:23100%
- 14:24jump.
- 14:25If
- 14:26you
- 14:26have
- 14:26100
- 14:27of
- 14:27something
- 14:28and
- 14:28then
- 14:28one
- 14:29more,
- 14:29I.e.
- 14:30A
- 14:301%
- 14:30jump.
- 14:32So
- 14:34how
- 14:34do
- 14:34we
- 14:34put
- 14:35that
- 14:35jump
- 14:35in
- 14:36perspective?
- 14:37Right
- 14:38now
- 14:39AI
- 14:39might
- 14:40be
- 14:40increasing,
- 14:41but
- 14:41it
- 14:41is
- 14:41still
- 14:42in
- 14:42just
- 14:432.9%
- 14:44of
- 14:45job
- 14:45ads.
- 14:46So
- 14:46it's
- 14:47got
- 14:47a
- 14:47pretty
- 14:48big
- 14:48jump
- 14:49in
- 14:49how
- 14:49many
- 14:49times
- 14:50it's
- 14:50mentioned.
- 14:51But
- 14:51it
- 14:51wasn't
- 14:52that
- 14:52high
- 14:52to
- 14:52start
- 14:52with
- 14:53and
- 14:53it's
- 14:53concentrated
- 14:54in
- 14:55ict,
- 14:56marketing
- 14:56and
- 14:56communications
- 14:58consulting.
- 14:58It
- 14:58is
- 14:59far
- 15:00from
- 15:00everywhere.
- 15:02However,
- 15:03what
- 15:04I
- 15:04see
- 15:04on
- 15:04this
- 15:05is
- 15:06that
- 15:06it's
- 15:06currently
- 15:06still
- 15:06small,
- 15:07but
- 15:08it's
- 15:08the
- 15:08start
- 15:08of
- 15:08a
- 15:08trend,
- 15:09it's
- 15:09ramping
- 15:10up.
- 15:11Where
- 15:11does
- 15:11that
- 15:11leave
- 15:12you
- 15:12with
- 15:13AI?
- 15:14I
- 15:14think
- 15:15there
- 15:15are
- 15:15two
- 15:16smart
- 15:16plays
- 15:17when
- 15:17it
- 15:17comes
- 15:17to
- 15:17AI
- 15:18and
- 15:18your
- 15:18career.
- 15:19They're
- 15:19quite
- 15:19different
- 15:20plays
- 15:20and
- 15:20it
- 15:20will
- 15:21depend
- 15:21a
- 15:21bit
- 15:22on
- 15:22how
- 15:22you
- 15:23feel
- 15:23about
- 15:24AI.
- 15:24The
- 15:25first
- 15:25is
- 15:25go
- 15:26towards
- 15:26the
- 15:26work
- 15:26AI
- 15:27genuinely
- 15:28can't
- 15:28do.
- 15:29Look
- 15:29back
- 15:29at
- 15:30that
- 15:30seek
- 15:30list.
- 15:31An
- 15:31automation
- 15:31engineer,
- 15:32yes,
- 15:33uses
- 15:33technology,
- 15:34but
- 15:34someone
- 15:34has
- 15:35to
- 15:35physically
- 15:35install
- 15:36the
- 15:36systems.
- 15:37A
- 15:37roofer,
- 15:38a
- 15:38truck
- 15:38driver,
- 15:39an
- 15:39H
- 15:39vac
- 15:40technician.
- 15:41AI
- 15:42is
- 15:42not
- 15:42getting
- 15:43on
- 15:43your
- 15:43roof,
- 15:44it
- 15:44is
- 15:44not
- 15:44driving
- 15:45your
- 15:45freight.
- 15:46So
- 15:46there
- 15:46is
- 15:46real,
- 15:47growing,
- 15:48well
- 15:48paid
- 15:49demand
- 15:49for
- 15:49people
- 15:50who
- 15:50work
- 15:50with
- 15:50their
- 15:50hands
- 15:51and
- 15:51use
- 15:52technical
- 15:52skills
- 15:53in
- 15:53the
- 15:54physical
- 15:54world.
- 15:55If
- 15:56that
- 15:56kind
- 15:56of
- 15:56work
- 15:56appeals
- 15:57to
- 15:57you
- 15:58or
- 15:58you're
- 15:58considering
- 15:59a
- 15:59change,
- 16:00now
- 16:00is
- 16:00actually
- 16:01a
- 16:01really
- 16:01good
- 16:02time
- 16:03to
- 16:03look
- 16:03seriously
- 16:04at
- 16:04trades.
- 16:05Now
- 16:05the
- 16:05second
- 16:05response
- 16:06is
- 16:07to
- 16:07go
- 16:08towards
- 16:08AI
- 16:09instead
- 16:09of
- 16:09away
- 16:10from
- 16:10it.
- 16:11And
- 16:11I've
- 16:11said
- 16:11this
- 16:12before
- 16:12on
- 16:13other
- 16:13topics,
- 16:14but
- 16:14getting
- 16:14in
- 16:15at
- 16:15the
- 16:15beginning
- 16:15of
- 16:15something
- 16:16is
- 16:16often
- 16:17a
- 16:17good
- 16:17idea
- 16:17because
- 16:18there's
- 16:18so
- 16:18much
- 16:18grace
- 16:19to
- 16:20figure
- 16:20it
- 16:20out.
- 16:21You
- 16:21seem
- 16:21to
- 16:22be
- 16:22smart
- 16:22for
- 16:22just
- 16:22knowing
- 16:23a
- 16:23few
- 16:23little
- 16:23things.
- 16:24Nobody
- 16:25expects
- 16:25you
- 16:25to
- 16:25be
- 16:25that
- 16:26good
- 16:26yet,
- 16:26rather
- 16:27than
- 16:27jumping
- 16:28in
- 16:28at
- 16:28the
- 16:29deep
- 16:29end
- 16:30much
- 16:30later
- 16:30when
- 16:31you
- 16:31actually
- 16:31have
- 16:32to,
- 16:32and
- 16:33the
- 16:33expectations
- 16:33by
- 16:34then
- 16:34are
- 16:34way
- 16:35higher
- 16:35and
- 16:35you're
- 16:36having
- 16:36to
- 16:36figure
- 16:36it
- 16:36out
- 16:37fast.
- 16:38I
- 16:38mean,
- 16:38that's
- 16:39how
- 16:39I
- 16:39got
- 16:39started
- 16:40in
- 16:40podcasts
- 16:41way
- 16:41back
- 16:42when,
- 16:42when
- 16:42I
- 16:43didn't
- 16:43have
- 16:43to
- 16:43use
- 16:44super
- 16:44Strength
- 16:44eye
- 16:45cream.
- 16:45Baby
- 16:46Journalist
- 16:46me
- 16:47started
- 16:47the
- 16:48very
- 16:48first
- 16:48podcast
- 16:49for
- 16:49the
- 16:50Herald
- 16:50that
- 16:50wasn't
- 16:50just
- 16:51a
- 16:51radio
- 16:51replay,
- 16:52an
- 16:52actual
- 16:52proper
- 16:53podcast,
- 16:54and
- 16:55nobody
- 16:55really
- 16:56paid
- 16:56attention
- 16:57to
- 16:57it.
- 16:57They
- 16:58didn't
- 16:58care.
- 16:59I
- 16:59had
- 17:00the
- 17:00space
- 17:00to
- 17:01be
- 17:01a
- 17:01bit
- 17:01rubbish
- 17:02with
- 17:02it
- 17:02and
- 17:02to
- 17:02have,
- 17:03frankly,
- 17:03what
- 17:03I
- 17:04would
- 17:04consider
- 17:04now
- 17:05really
- 17:05bad
- 17:06numbers.
- 17:07And
- 17:07I
- 17:07could
- 17:08just
- 17:08figure
- 17:08it
- 17:08out
- 17:09and
- 17:09keep
- 17:09going
- 17:10and
- 17:11figure
- 17:11out
- 17:11how
- 17:12it
- 17:12worked.
- 17:13And
- 17:13then
- 17:13after
- 17:14a
- 17:14while
- 17:14I
- 17:14became
- 17:15the
- 17:15podcast
- 17:16girl
- 17:16because
- 17:17podcasts
- 17:18exploded,
- 17:19everyone
- 17:19wanted
- 17:20one
- 17:20and
- 17:20suddenly
- 17:21here
- 17:21I
- 17:21was
- 17:21with
- 17:22a
- 17:22few
- 17:22years
- 17:22of
- 17:22track
- 17:23record.
- 17:23So
- 17:23the
- 17:24second
- 17:24response
- 17:25is
- 17:25figuring
- 17:25out
- 17:26how
- 17:26AI
- 17:27is
- 17:27going
- 17:27to
- 17:28become
- 17:28part
- 17:28of
- 17:28your
- 17:28industry
- 17:30and
- 17:30start
- 17:30learning
- 17:31the
- 17:31skills
- 17:31now
- 17:32while
- 17:32the
- 17:33curve
- 17:33is
- 17:33still
- 17:33early,
- 17:34the
- 17:34people
- 17:35who
- 17:35got
- 17:35into
- 17:35social
- 17:35media
- 17:36marketing
- 17:36in
- 17:362010
- 17:37looked
- 17:38annoying
- 17:39and
- 17:39ahead
- 17:40of
- 17:40themselves,
- 17:40and
- 17:41by
- 17:412015
- 17:41they
- 17:42were
- 17:42running
- 17:42departments
- 17:44for
- 17:44some
- 17:44industries.
- 17:45The
- 17:45same
- 17:45thing
- 17:45is
- 17:45going
- 17:46to
- 17:46happen
- 17:46here.
- 17:47So
- 17:47I
- 17:47think
- 17:47that's
- 17:47the
- 17:47key
- 17:48here
- 17:48is
- 17:48looking
- 17:48at
- 17:49those
- 17:49two
- 17:50big
- 17:50trends
- 17:51and
- 17:51then
- 17:51looking
- 17:52at
- 17:52your
- 17:52own
- 17:52career
- 17:53history,
- 17:54where
- 17:54you've
- 17:54been,
- 17:55where
- 17:55you
- 17:55want
- 17:55to
- 17:56go
- 17:56and
- 17:57picking
- 17:57your
- 17:58strategy
- 17:59from
- 17:59there.
- 18:00The
- 18:01things
- 18:01worth
- 18:01learning
- 18:02right
- 18:02now
- 18:02are
- 18:03mostly
- 18:03pretty
- 18:04accessible
- 18:04and
- 18:05a
- 18:05lot
- 18:05of
- 18:05them
- 18:05are
- 18:06free
- 18:06or
- 18:06cheap.
- 18:07And
- 18:07if
- 18:08you're
- 18:08in
- 18:08the
- 18:08physical
- 18:09trades
- 18:09direction,
- 18:10even
- 18:10if
- 18:10you're
- 18:11not
- 18:11a
- 18:11full
- 18:12career
- 18:12changer,
- 18:13just
- 18:14someone
- 18:14who
- 18:14wants
- 18:14to
- 18:14be
- 18:14more
- 18:15valuable
- 18:15in
- 18:15a
- 18:15construction
- 18:16or
- 18:16logistics
- 18:17type
- 18:17of
- 18:17role.
- 18:18Great
- 18:18time
- 18:19to
- 18:19be
- 18:19looking
- 18:19at
- 18:20what
- 18:20certifications
- 18:21exist
- 18:21in
- 18:22your
- 18:22area.
- 18:23Forklift
- 18:23license,
- 18:24Health
- 18:25and
- 18:25safety
- 18:25qualifications,
- 18:27Trade
- 18:27certificate?
- 18:28These
- 18:28things
- 18:28are
- 18:29relatively
- 18:30fast
- 18:30to
- 18:30get,
- 18:31or
- 18:31they
- 18:31can
- 18:32be.
- 18:32At
- 18:32least
- 18:32the
- 18:32data
- 18:33shows
- 18:33employers
- 18:33are
- 18:34actively
- 18:35looking
- 18:35for
- 18:36them.
- 18:36Tight
- 18:37job
- 18:37market.
- 18:37These
- 18:38can
- 18:38be
- 18:38the
- 18:38things
- 18:38that
- 18:39give
- 18:39you
- 18:39the
- 18:39edge.
- 18:40If
- 18:40you're
- 18:40in
- 18:40an
- 18:40office
- 18:40based
- 18:41role,
- 18:41maybe
- 18:42you
- 18:42want
- 18:42to
- 18:42focus
- 18:43on
- 18:43upskilling
- 18:44in
- 18:44other
- 18:44ways.
- 18:45Whatever
- 18:45trends
- 18:46you've
- 18:46seen
- 18:47in
- 18:47your
- 18:47industry,
- 18:48maybe
- 18:49it's
- 18:49AI
- 18:49literacy,
- 18:50maybe
- 18:50it's
- 18:51something
- 18:51else.
- 18:52Get
- 18:52your
- 18:52ear
- 18:52to
- 18:53the
- 18:53ground
- 18:53for
- 18:53what
- 18:54skills
- 18:55your
- 18:55employers
- 18:56are
- 18:56looking
- 18:56for
- 18:57right
- 18:57now.
- 18:57Take
- 18:58this
- 18:58time
- 18:59to
- 18:59get
- 18:59faster
- 19:00and
- 19:00better
- 19:00at
- 19:00your
- 19:01job.
- 19:02When
- 19:02there's
- 19:02a
- 19:03slowdown,
- 19:04that
- 19:04can
- 19:04really
- 19:05be
- 19:05your
- 19:05opportunity
- 19:06to
- 19:06level
- 19:07up.
- 19:07HubSpot
- 19:08has
- 19:08things
- 19:08like
- 19:09free
- 19:09certifications
- 19:10in
- 19:10marketing
- 19:10or
- 19:11Coursera
- 19:12has
- 19:12courses
- 19:12on
- 19:13everything
- 19:14under
- 19:14the
- 19:14sun.
- 19:15LinkedIn
- 19:15Learning,
- 19:16Google's
- 19:17digital
- 19:17garage.
- 19:18These
- 19:18are
- 19:19not
- 19:19massive
- 19:20time
- 19:20investments.
- 19:21They
- 19:21are
- 19:21often
- 19:22the
- 19:22type
- 19:22of
- 19:23thing
- 19:23that
- 19:23you
- 19:23can
- 19:23do
- 19:23in
- 19:24a
- 19:24weekend
- 19:24or
- 19:25across
- 19:25a
- 19:25couple
- 19:26of
- 19:26evenings.
- 19:27And
- 19:27then
- 19:28this
- 19:28is
- 19:29the
- 19:29part
- 19:30that
- 19:30people
- 19:30skip.
- 19:31Tell
- 19:32your
- 19:32boss,
- 19:33don't
- 19:33just
- 19:33quietly
- 19:34do
- 19:34it.
- 19:34Hey,
- 19:35I've
- 19:35been
- 19:35learning
- 19:36about
- 19:36how
- 19:37this
- 19:37tool
- 19:37could
- 19:37help
- 19:38us
- 19:38do
- 19:38X
- 19:39faster.
- 19:40Can
- 19:40I
- 19:40show
- 19:40you
- 19:42that
- 19:42one
- 19:42sentence
- 19:43does
- 19:43two
- 19:44things
- 19:44at
- 19:44once.
- 19:44It
- 19:45shows
- 19:45initiative
- 19:46and
- 19:46it
- 19:46plants
- 19:46a
- 19:46flag.
- 19:48Quick
- 19:48interruption
- 19:49to
- 19:49say,
- 19:49if
- 19:49you're
- 19:49enjoying
- 19:50this
- 19:50episode,
- 19:50you'll
- 19:51love
- 19:51the
- 19:51Market
- 19:52Memo,
- 19:52my
- 19:53weekly
- 19:53newsletter
- 19:54where
- 19:54I
- 19:54teach
- 19:54you
- 19:54how
- 19:55to
- 19:55actually
- 19:55invest.
- 19:56No
- 19:56jargon,
- 19:57no
- 19:57spreadsheets,
- 19:58just
- 19:58random
- 19:59real
- 19:59talk
- 19:59about
- 19:59shares
- 20:00and
- 20:00how
- 20:00to
- 20:01make
- 20:01your
- 20:01money
- 20:01work
- 20:02for
- 20:02you.
- 20:02It's
- 20:02the
- 20:03thing
- 20:03I
- 20:03wish
- 20:03I'd
- 20:03had
- 20:04when
- 20:04I
- 20:04was
- 20:04starting
- 20:04out.
- 20:05You
- 20:05can
- 20:05sign
- 20:06up
- 20:06for
- 20:06free
- 20:07at
- 20:07Francisco
- 20:08Co
- 20:08NZ
- 20:09Invest.
- 20:10That's
- 20:10Francisco
- 20:11Co
- 20:12NZ
- 20:13Invest.
- 20:13But
- 20:14don't
- 20:14worry,
- 20:14I'll
- 20:14put
- 20:15the
- 20:15link
- 20:15in
- 20:15the
- 20:15show
- 20:15notes
- 20:16and
- 20:16the
- 20:16description
- 20:17of
- 20:17this
- 20:17podcast.
- 20:18All
- 20:19right,
- 20:19back
- 20:19to
- 20:19it.
- 20:21Now,
- 20:21while
- 20:22we're
- 20:22talking
- 20:22about
- 20:23your
- 20:23current
- 20:23job,
- 20:24let's
- 20:24talk
- 20:24about
- 20:24saving.
- 20:25Staying
- 20:25in
- 20:25it.
- 20:26Little
- 20:26bit
- 20:26of
- 20:26tough
- 20:27love
- 20:27here,
- 20:27but
- 20:28I
- 20:28say
- 20:28it
- 20:28to
- 20:28help
- 20:28you.
- 20:29It's
- 20:30an
- 20:30unfortunate
- 20:30truth
- 20:31that
- 20:31I
- 20:31took
- 20:31far
- 20:32too
- 20:32long
- 20:32to
- 20:32learn
- 20:33myself.
- 20:33When
- 20:34businesses
- 20:34are
- 20:35under
- 20:35pressure,
- 20:36when
- 20:36job
- 20:36losses
- 20:37are
- 20:37possible,
- 20:38when
- 20:38costs
- 20:38are
- 20:38up,
- 20:39the
- 20:40people
- 20:40who
- 20:40get
- 20:40protected
- 20:41are
- 20:41not
- 20:42necessarily
- 20:43the
- 20:43most
- 20:43talented.
- 20:44It
- 20:44is
- 20:45not
- 20:45always
- 20:46the
- 20:46people
- 20:46who
- 20:46are
- 20:46best
- 20:47at
- 20:47their
- 20:47job.
- 20:48So
- 20:49it's
- 20:49not
- 20:49always
- 20:49enough
- 20:50to
- 20:50be
- 20:51really
- 20:51good
- 20:51at
- 20:51your
- 20:51job
- 20:51and
- 20:52assume
- 20:52that
- 20:52that
- 20:52will
- 20:53look
- 20:53after
- 20:53you.
- 20:54The
- 20:55people
- 20:55who
- 20:55are
- 20:55protected
- 20:55are
- 20:56often
- 20:56the
- 20:56ones
- 20:56whose
- 20:57value
- 20:57is
- 20:57most
- 20:58visible.
- 21:00And
- 21:01I
- 21:01have
- 21:02been
- 21:02so
- 21:02bad
- 21:03at
- 21:03this
- 21:04in
- 21:04my
- 21:04previous
- 21:05career.
- 21:05I've
- 21:05said
- 21:06this
- 21:06before,
- 21:06but
- 21:06when
- 21:06I
- 21:07was
- 21:07back
- 21:07in
- 21:07a
- 21:07regular
- 21:08job,
- 21:08I
- 21:09felt
- 21:09like
- 21:09flagging
- 21:10my
- 21:10own
- 21:10wins
- 21:11was
- 21:11annoying.
- 21:12Like
- 21:12I
- 21:12was
- 21:12bragging,
- 21:13like
- 21:14my
- 21:14boss
- 21:14should
- 21:15just
- 21:15be
- 21:15able
- 21:15to
- 21:15see
- 21:15it.
- 21:16And
- 21:17that
- 21:17was
- 21:17enough.
- 21:18The
- 21:19latter
- 21:19years
- 21:19of
- 21:19my
- 21:20career
- 21:20and
- 21:20in
- 21:20the
- 21:20actual
- 21:21workplace,
- 21:21I
- 21:21was
- 21:22also
- 21:22mostly
- 21:22work
- 21:23from
- 21:23home,
- 21:23as
- 21:24many
- 21:24women
- 21:24are
- 21:25when
- 21:25they
- 21:25become
- 21:25parents.
- 21:26And
- 21:26then
- 21:27this
- 21:27became
- 21:28even
- 21:29more
- 21:29important.
- 21:30My
- 21:30boss
- 21:31couldn't
- 21:31see
- 21:31what
- 21:31I
- 21:31was
- 21:32doing
- 21:32to
- 21:33create
- 21:33results.
- 21:34They
- 21:34just
- 21:34saw
- 21:35results
- 21:36sometimes
- 21:37if
- 21:37they
- 21:37were
- 21:37paying
- 21:38attention.
- 21:39But
- 21:39these
- 21:39bosses
- 21:40are
- 21:40also
- 21:40incredibly
- 21:41busy.
- 21:42They
- 21:42are
- 21:42managing
- 21:43lots
- 21:43of
- 21:43people
- 21:44and
- 21:44they
- 21:44are
- 21:44also
- 21:44doing
- 21:45other
- 21:45things
- 21:45beyond
- 21:46just
- 21:46people
- 21:46management.
- 21:47They're
- 21:47doing
- 21:47other
- 21:47things
- 21:48for
- 21:48the
- 21:48business
- 21:48too.
- 21:49I'm
- 21:50sorry
- 21:50to
- 21:50say
- 21:50it.
- 21:50They're
- 21:51actually
- 21:51not
- 21:52thinking
- 21:53about
- 21:53you,
- 21:54about
- 21:54us
- 21:55all
- 21:55that
- 21:55much
- 21:55until
- 21:56they
- 21:56are
- 21:57a
- 21:57few
- 21:57months
- 21:58later.
- 21:59And
- 21:59then
- 22:00their
- 22:00first
- 22:00thought
- 22:01is,
- 22:01what
- 22:02do
- 22:02they
- 22:02get
- 22:02up
- 22:02to
- 22:03anyway?
- 22:04And
- 22:05by
- 22:05the
- 22:05time
- 22:06that
- 22:06thought
- 22:07enters
- 22:07their
- 22:07head,
- 22:08you
- 22:08are
- 22:08already
- 22:09on
- 22:09the
- 22:09back
- 22:09foot
- 22:10and
- 22:10probably
- 22:10fighting
- 22:11a
- 22:11losing
- 22:11fight.
- 22:12You
- 22:12simply
- 22:13do
- 22:13not
- 22:14want
- 22:14that
- 22:14thought
- 22:15to
- 22:15enter
- 22:15their
- 22:16head
- 22:16in
- 22:17the
- 22:17first
- 22:17place.
- 22:18Let
- 22:18me
- 22:18tell
- 22:19you
- 22:19another
- 22:19story
- 22:20about
- 22:20a
- 22:20friend
- 22:20I
- 22:21had
- 22:21who
- 22:21dealt
- 22:21with
- 22:21this
- 22:22really
- 22:22hardworking
- 22:23guy.
- 22:23A
- 22:23mechanic
- 22:24had
- 22:25been
- 22:25working
- 22:25for
- 22:26this
- 22:26company
- 22:26for
- 22:26a
- 22:27long
- 22:27time,
- 22:28working
- 22:28really
- 22:29hard,
- 22:29but
- 22:29on
- 22:30quite
- 22:30a
- 22:30low
- 22:30wage.
- 22:31Now
- 22:31he
- 22:32had
- 22:32been
- 22:32working
- 22:32himself
- 22:33up
- 22:33for
- 22:33months
- 22:34to
- 22:35ask
- 22:35for
- 22:35a
- 22:35raise.
- 22:36Really
- 22:36nervous
- 22:37to
- 22:37do
- 22:37it.
- 22:37Really
- 22:38nervous
- 22:38about
- 22:39what
- 22:39his
- 22:39boss
- 22:39would
- 22:40think.
- 22:40I'd
- 22:40been
- 22:41hyping
- 22:41him
- 22:41up
- 22:41to
- 22:41do
- 22:41it,
- 22:42so
- 22:42had
- 22:42other
- 22:43friends.
- 22:43He
- 22:43was
- 22:44so
- 22:44nervous,
- 22:45he
- 22:45knew
- 22:45he
- 22:45needed
- 22:46to.
- 22:46He
- 22:46didn't
- 22:47really
- 22:47want
- 22:47to
- 22:47have
- 22:47that
- 22:48conversation.
- 22:48Now
- 22:49he
- 22:49finally
- 22:49did
- 22:49it
- 22:50after
- 22:50months.
- 22:52And
- 22:52his
- 22:52boss
- 22:52in
- 22:53this
- 22:53conversation
- 22:53goes,
- 22:54oh,
- 22:55maybe
- 22:56what
- 22:56do
- 22:57you
- 22:57want
- 22:57currently?
- 22:59And
- 22:59my
- 22:59friend
- 22:59tells
- 23:00his
- 23:00boss
- 23:01what
- 23:01he
- 23:01was
- 23:01currently
- 23:01being
- 23:02paid,
- 23:02and
- 23:02the
- 23:02boss
- 23:03was
- 23:04horrified.
- 23:05That
- 23:05was
- 23:06their
- 23:06apprentice
- 23:07wage.
- 23:07He
- 23:07shouldn't
- 23:08have
- 23:08been
- 23:08on
- 23:08that
- 23:08at
- 23:08all.
- 23:09Immediate
- 23:10raise,
- 23:11no
- 23:11problem.
- 23:12Boss
- 23:12actually
- 23:13so
- 23:13embarrassed
- 23:14that
- 23:14that
- 23:15situation
- 23:15had
- 23:15happened.
- 23:16But
- 23:17his
- 23:17boss
- 23:17was
- 23:17busy.
- 23:18It
- 23:18was
- 23:19one
- 23:19of
- 23:19those
- 23:19workplaces
- 23:19where
- 23:20you
- 23:20just
- 23:20clock
- 23:20in,
- 23:20clock
- 23:21out,
- 23:21and
- 23:21the
- 23:22computer
- 23:23generated
- 23:23the
- 23:24paychecks.
- 23:25The
- 23:25reality
- 23:25is
- 23:26nobody
- 23:27cares
- 23:27about
- 23:27us
- 23:28as
- 23:28much
- 23:28as
- 23:28we
- 23:28care
- 23:29about
- 23:29ourselves.
- 23:29So
- 23:30we've
- 23:30got
- 23:31to
- 23:31take
- 23:31active
- 23:32control
- 23:32of
- 23:32our
- 23:32own
- 23:32lives
- 23:33here.
- 23:33So
- 23:34a
- 23:34few
- 23:34things
- 23:35that
- 23:35actually
- 23:35make
- 23:36a
- 23:36difference,
- 23:37especially
- 23:37if
- 23:37you're
- 23:37a
- 23:38remote
- 23:38worker.
- 23:38But
- 23:39I
- 23:39think
- 23:39this
- 23:39is
- 23:39actually
- 23:40a
- 23:40good
- 23:40thing
- 23:40for
- 23:40anyone
- 23:41to
- 23:41do,
- 23:41really.
- 23:42Send
- 23:43a
- 23:43weekly
- 23:43update
- 23:44to
- 23:44your
- 23:44Manager
- 23:45doesn't
- 23:45have
- 23:46to
- 23:46be
- 23:46long,
- 23:46two
- 23:47or
- 23:47three
- 23:47sentences.
- 23:48Here's
- 23:49what
- 23:49I
- 23:49finished.
- 23:50Here's
- 23:50what
- 23:50I'm
- 23:51working
- 23:51on.
- 23:51Here's
- 23:52something
- 23:52I
- 23:52noticed.
- 23:53You
- 23:53are
- 23:54making
- 23:54their
- 23:54life
- 23:55easier
- 23:56and
- 23:56making
- 23:56your
- 23:57value
- 23:57visible
- 23:58at
- 23:59the
- 23:59same
- 23:59time.
- 24:01And
- 24:01bring
- 24:01solutions,
- 24:02not
- 24:02problems.
- 24:02Everyone
- 24:03can
- 24:03spot
- 24:03a
- 24:03problem.
- 24:04The
- 24:04people
- 24:04who
- 24:05get
- 24:05ahead
- 24:05are
- 24:06the
- 24:06ones
- 24:06who
- 24:06come
- 24:07to
- 24:07their
- 24:07manager
- 24:08with
- 24:08a
- 24:08problem
- 24:08that
- 24:08they've
- 24:09already
- 24:09half
- 24:10solved.
- 24:11Even
- 24:11if
- 24:11your
- 24:11boss
- 24:11doesn't
- 24:12use
- 24:12your
- 24:12solution,
- 24:12you've
- 24:13shown
- 24:13that
- 24:14you
- 24:14were
- 24:14looking
- 24:14for
- 24:14one.
- 24:15And
- 24:16think
- 24:16about
- 24:16what
- 24:16makes
- 24:17you
- 24:17genuinely
- 24:19hard
- 24:19to
- 24:19replace.
- 24:20Is
- 24:20it
- 24:21a
- 24:21relationship
- 24:22with
- 24:22a
- 24:22key
- 24:22client?
- 24:23Deep
- 24:24knowledge
- 24:24of
- 24:24a
- 24:24system?
- 24:25A
- 24:25skill
- 24:26nobody
- 24:27else
- 24:27on
- 24:27the
- 24:27team
- 24:27has?
- 24:28Whatever
- 24:29it
- 24:29is,
- 24:29lean
- 24:29into
- 24:29it,
- 24:30develop
- 24:30it
- 24:31further.
- 24:31Make
- 24:32yourself
- 24:32the
- 24:32person
- 24:33that
- 24:33owns
- 24:34that
- 24:34thing
- 24:35and
- 24:35include
- 24:36that
- 24:36thing
- 24:37regularly
- 24:38in
- 24:38the
- 24:39updates
- 24:39that
- 24:39you're
- 24:39sending
- 24:40to
- 24:40your
- 24:40manager.
- 24:41You
- 24:41want
- 24:41it
- 24:41to
- 24:41be
- 24:42so
- 24:43obvious
- 24:44how
- 24:44hard
- 24:45you
- 24:45would
- 24:45be
- 24:45to
- 24:45replace.
- 24:47Doesn't
- 24:47have
- 24:47to
- 24:47be
- 24:47long,
- 24:48doesn't
- 24:48have
- 24:48to
- 24:48be
- 24:49bragging.
- 24:49It's
- 24:50just
- 24:50communication.
- 24:51Because
- 24:51now
- 24:52that
- 24:52I'm
- 24:52on
- 24:52the
- 24:52other
- 24:52side
- 24:53of
- 24:53things
- 24:53and
- 24:53I
- 24:53actually
- 24:53employ
- 24:54people,
- 24:55let
- 24:55me
- 24:55tell
- 24:55you,
- 24:55silence
- 24:56is
- 24:56super
- 24:57annoying.
- 24:58I
- 24:58am
- 24:58juggling
- 24:59way
- 24:59more
- 24:59things
- 24:59than
- 25:00I
- 25:00want
- 25:00to
- 25:00be.
- 25:00I
- 25:01do
- 25:01not
- 25:01have
- 25:01time
- 25:02to
- 25:02be
- 25:02constantly
- 25:03monitoring
- 25:04other
- 25:04people.
- 25:05Just
- 25:05give
- 25:06me
- 25:06the
- 25:06brief
- 25:06of
- 25:06what's
- 25:07going
- 25:07on
- 25:07in
- 25:07your
- 25:08neck
- 25:08of
- 25:08the
- 25:08woods.
- 25:08It
- 25:08is
- 25:08actually
- 25:09so
- 25:09helpful.
- 25:10And
- 25:11why
- 25:11do
- 25:11we
- 25:12document
- 25:12these
- 25:13things?
- 25:13Why
- 25:13do
- 25:14we
- 25:14stay
- 25:14front
- 25:14of
- 25:14mind?
- 25:15It's
- 25:16not
- 25:16just
- 25:16to
- 25:16protect
- 25:16our
- 25:17job.
- 25:17It's
- 25:17also
- 25:18to
- 25:18get
- 25:18ahead
- 25:19with
- 25:20pay
- 25:20rises,
- 25:21maybe
- 25:21even
- 25:22a
- 25:22promotion.
- 25:23Because,
- 25:23yes,
- 25:24I
- 25:24go
- 25:24to
- 25:25work
- 25:25for
- 25:25money.
- 25:25If
- 25:26you
- 25:26stop
- 25:26paying
- 25:27me,
- 25:27I'll
- 25:28stop
- 25:28coming
- 25:28in.
- 25:29This
- 25:29isn't
- 25:29a
- 25:29charity.
- 25:30This
- 25:30is
- 25:30a
- 25:31value
- 25:31exchange.
- 25:32You
- 25:32pay
- 25:32me,
- 25:32I
- 25:33do
- 25:33stuff
- 25:33for
- 25:33you.
- 25:34That's
- 25:34fine.
- 25:35We've
- 25:35all
- 25:35got
- 25:35bills
- 25:36to
- 25:36pay.
- 25:36We
- 25:37do
- 25:37good
- 25:37work,
- 25:37we
- 25:38deliver
- 25:38results,
- 25:39and
- 25:39we're
- 25:39paid
- 25:40appropriately.
- 25:40That
- 25:41is
- 25:41the
- 25:41whole
- 25:41deal.
- 25:42I
- 25:42don't
- 25:43know
- 25:43why
- 25:43it's
- 25:43so
- 25:44weird
- 25:44to
- 25:44say
- 25:45that,
- 25:45but
- 25:47fair
- 25:47enough.
- 25:47It's
- 25:48not
- 25:48always
- 25:48an
- 25:49easy
- 25:49conversation.
- 25:50So
- 25:51fluffy
- 25:51stuff
- 25:51like
- 25:52know
- 25:52your
- 25:53worth
- 25:53and
- 25:54advocate
- 25:55for
- 25:55yourself
- 25:56is
- 25:56not
- 25:57all
- 25:57that
- 25:57helpful.
- 25:58This
- 25:58is
- 25:59actually
- 25:59one
- 25:59bit
- 25:59I
- 26:00was
- 26:00really
- 26:00good
- 26:01at
- 26:01when
- 26:01I
- 26:01was
- 26:01still
- 26:02an
- 26:02employee.
- 26:02I
- 26:02was
- 26:03really
- 26:03good
- 26:03at
- 26:04at
- 26:04getting
- 26:04a
- 26:04raise.
- 26:05So
- 26:05let's
- 26:06talk
- 26:06about
- 26:06how
- 26:06you
- 26:07actually
- 26:07do
- 26:08this.
- 26:08The
- 26:08proper
- 26:08roadmap
- 26:09first
- 26:10is
- 26:10timing.
- 26:11The
- 26:11worst
- 26:12time
- 26:12to
- 26:12ask
- 26:13for
- 26:13a
- 26:13pay
- 26:13rise
- 26:13is
- 26:14when
- 26:14you
- 26:14need
- 26:14one.
- 26:15The
- 26:15best
- 26:16time
- 26:17is
- 26:17when
- 26:17you've
- 26:17just
- 26:18delivered
- 26:18something
- 26:19visible.
- 26:21A
- 26:21project
- 26:21has
- 26:21finished,
- 26:22a
- 26:22problem
- 26:23has
- 26:23been
- 26:23solved,
- 26:24a
- 26:24win
- 26:25that
- 26:25your
- 26:25boss
- 26:25is
- 26:26still
- 26:26feeling
- 26:26really
- 26:26good
- 26:26about.
- 26:27Ride
- 26:28that
- 26:29wave.
- 26:30Also,
- 26:30think
- 26:30about
- 26:31the
- 26:31business
- 26:31cycle.
- 26:32If
- 26:32your
- 26:32company
- 26:33has
- 26:33just
- 26:33had
- 26:33a
- 26:34rough
- 26:34quarter
- 26:34or
- 26:35there's
- 26:35a
- 26:35hiring
- 26:35freeze,
- 26:36or
- 26:36your
- 26:36manager
- 26:37is
- 26:37clearly
- 26:37quite
- 26:37stressed
- 26:38about
- 26:38costs,
- 26:39it's
- 26:39not
- 26:39necessarily
- 26:40the
- 26:40moment
- 26:40to
- 26:41ask
- 26:41for
- 26:41more
- 26:41money.
- 26:42You
- 26:42got
- 26:42to
- 26:43do
- 26:43a
- 26:43little
- 26:43bit
- 26:43of
- 26:43a
- 26:44wait
- 26:44and
- 26:44a
- 26:44watch
- 26:44and
- 26:45a
- 26:45pick
- 26:45your
- 26:45moment.
- 26:46Don't
- 26:47use
- 26:47that
- 26:47as
- 26:47an
- 26:48excuse
- 26:48to
- 26:48do
- 26:49nothing
- 26:49because
- 26:50I
- 26:50think
- 26:50we
- 26:50can
- 26:50talk
- 26:50ourselves
- 26:51out
- 26:51of
- 26:51this
- 26:52quite
- 26:52easily.
- 26:52And
- 26:53you
- 26:53know,
- 26:53there's
- 26:53always
- 26:54stuff
- 26:54going
- 26:54on
- 26:55with
- 26:55the
- 26:55business.
- 26:56It's
- 26:56just
- 26:57more
- 26:57of
- 26:57a
- 26:57reminder
- 26:58to
- 26:58watch
- 26:58and
- 26:58be
- 26:59aware.
- 26:59Try
- 26:59to
- 27:00try
- 27:00to
- 27:01read
- 27:01the
- 27:01room
- 27:02if
- 27:03your
- 27:03job
- 27:03comes
- 27:03with
- 27:04annual
- 27:04reviews,
- 27:05if
- 27:05that's
- 27:05part
- 27:06of
- 27:06the
- 27:06plan,
- 27:06which
- 27:07hopefully
- 27:07it
- 27:07should
- 27:07be.
- 27:08But
- 27:08I
- 27:08know
- 27:08that's
- 27:09not
- 27:09always
- 27:09the
- 27:09case.
- 27:10You
- 27:10don't
- 27:11actually
- 27:11have
- 27:11to
- 27:11wait
- 27:12for
- 27:12the
- 27:12annual
- 27:13review
- 27:13to
- 27:13bring
- 27:13up
- 27:13your
- 27:14pay.
- 27:14In
- 27:14fact,
- 27:14I
- 27:15would
- 27:15actually
- 27:15say
- 27:15that's
- 27:16not
- 27:16what
- 27:16you
- 27:16want
- 27:17to
- 27:17do.
- 27:18Two
- 27:18or
- 27:18three
- 27:18months
- 27:19before,
- 27:20shoot
- 27:21your
- 27:21boss
- 27:21an
- 27:21email,
- 27:22say,
- 27:23hey,
- 27:23do
- 27:24you
- 27:24have
- 27:24a
- 27:24moment
- 27:24when
- 27:25we
- 27:25could
- 27:25have
- 27:25a
- 27:25private
- 27:26conversation?
- 27:27And
- 27:27then
- 27:27in
- 27:28that
- 27:28conversation
- 27:28you
- 27:29say
- 27:29something
- 27:29like,
- 27:30I
- 27:30would
- 27:30love
- 27:30to
- 27:30be
- 27:30considered
- 27:31for
- 27:31a
- 27:31pay
- 27:31rise.
- 27:32What
- 27:33do
- 27:33you
- 27:33need
- 27:33to
- 27:33see
- 27:33from
- 27:34me
- 27:34in
- 27:34order
- 27:35for
- 27:35that
- 27:35to
- 27:35happen?
- 27:36And
- 27:36then
- 27:37you
- 27:37have
- 27:37a
- 27:37few
- 27:37months
- 27:38to
- 27:38lock
- 27:38in
- 27:39those
- 27:39wins.
- 27:39And
- 27:39when
- 27:40the
- 27:40review
- 27:40comes,
- 27:41your
- 27:41manager
- 27:42already
- 27:42knows
- 27:43that
- 27:43that's
- 27:44part
- 27:44of
- 27:44your
- 27:44plan.
- 27:45They've
- 27:45already
- 27:45got
- 27:46that
- 27:46in
- 27:46their
- 27:47head
- 27:48now.
- 27:48Second,
- 27:49preparation.
- 27:50You
- 27:50need
- 27:51three
- 27:51things
- 27:52when
- 27:52you
- 27:52go
- 27:52into
- 27:52that
- 27:53pay
- 27:53rise
- 27:53conversation.
- 27:54One
- 27:54is
- 27:55an
- 27:55idea
- 27:55of
- 27:56what's
- 27:56happening
- 27:57in
- 27:57your
- 27:58job
- 27:58right
- 27:59now.
- 27:59Particularly
- 28:01what
- 28:01are
- 28:01people
- 28:01in
- 28:02similar
- 28:02jobs
- 28:03to
- 28:03yours
- 28:03being
- 28:04paid
- 28:04right
- 28:04now?
- 28:05You
- 28:05can
- 28:06use
- 28:06seek
- 28:07LinkedIn
- 28:08salary
- 28:08insights,
- 28:09MB's
- 28:10wage
- 28:10data.
- 28:11There's
- 28:11a
- 28:11great
- 28:12website
- 28:12actually
- 28:12called
- 28:13whatsthesalary.com
- 28:15and
- 28:15if
- 28:15you
- 28:15put
- 28:15a
- 28:16job
- 28:16ad
- 28:16into
- 28:17that,
- 28:17you
- 28:17know
- 28:18they
- 28:18often
- 28:18don't
- 28:18put
- 28:19the
- 28:19salary
- 28:20on
- 28:20the
- 28:20job
- 28:21ad
- 28:21these
- 28:21days.
- 28:22So
- 28:22annoying.
- 28:23But
- 28:23if
- 28:23you
- 28:23put
- 28:24it
- 28:24into
- 28:24what's
- 28:24the
- 28:24salary.com,
- 28:26put
- 28:26the
- 28:26job
- 28:26ad
- 28:26into
- 28:27that,
- 28:27it
- 28:27shows
- 28:28the
- 28:28hidden
- 28:28salary
- 28:28band
- 28:29that
- 28:29is
- 28:30actually
- 28:30entered
- 28:30behind
- 28:31the
- 28:31scenes
- 28:31on
- 28:31that
- 28:32job.
- 28:33Hot
- 28:33tip.
- 28:34So
- 28:34it's
- 28:34really
- 28:35important
- 28:35to
- 28:35know
- 28:35what
- 28:36other
- 28:36people
- 28:36are
- 28:36being
- 28:36paid
- 28:37so
- 28:37you
- 28:37can
- 28:37know
- 28:37how
- 28:37you
- 28:38compare
- 28:38and
- 28:38it
- 28:39shows
- 28:39you
- 28:39what
- 28:39you
- 28:39can
- 28:40reasonably
- 28:40expect.
- 28:422.
- 28:42You
- 28:43need
- 28:43to
- 28:43have
- 28:43your
- 28:43wins.
- 28:44You
- 28:44should
- 28:44have
- 28:44a
- 28:44running
- 28:45document,
- 28:45whether
- 28:46it
- 28:46is
- 28:46a
- 28:46file
- 28:47on
- 28:47your
- 28:47computer
- 28:48or
- 28:48a
- 28:48note
- 28:49on
- 28:49your
- 28:49phone
- 28:49or
- 28:50a
- 28:50physical
- 28:51notebook.
- 28:52You
- 28:52need
- 28:53a
- 28:53record
- 28:53of
- 28:53the
- 28:54wins
- 28:54you've
- 28:54delivered
- 28:55for
- 28:55your
- 28:55company
- 28:56because
- 28:56you
- 28:56will
- 28:57forget.
- 28:57You
- 28:57won't
- 28:58believe
- 28:58it,
- 28:58but
- 28:58you
- 28:58will.
- 28:59Particularly
- 29:00anything
- 29:01where
- 29:01you
- 29:01might
- 29:01have
- 29:01saved
- 29:02them
- 29:02money
- 29:03or
- 29:03even
- 29:03better,
- 29:04made
- 29:04them
- 29:04Money,
- 29:05but
- 29:05just
- 29:06wins.
- 29:07Where
- 29:07you've
- 29:07made
- 29:07their
- 29:08life
- 29:08easier.
- 29:08Have
- 29:09them
- 29:09written
- 29:10down
- 29:10before
- 29:11the
- 29:11conversation.
- 29:12Specific
- 29:13things
- 29:13that
- 29:14you
- 29:14delivered.
- 29:15Problems
- 29:15you
- 29:16solved,
- 29:16value
- 29:17you
- 29:18added,
- 29:18not
- 29:18just
- 29:19a
- 29:19vague
- 29:19sense
- 29:19of,
- 29:20hey,
- 29:20I've
- 29:20been
- 29:20working
- 29:20really
- 29:21hard.
- 29:21Actual
- 29:22examples
- 29:23so
- 29:23you
- 29:23can
- 29:23walk
- 29:24into
- 29:24there
- 29:24with
- 29:24it
- 29:25fresh,
- 29:25top
- 29:25of
- 29:26mind.
- 29:26And
- 29:26you
- 29:26say
- 29:27things
- 29:27like,
- 29:27I
- 29:28led
- 29:29X
- 29:29project,
- 29:30which
- 29:30delivered
- 29:31why
- 29:31Outcome.
- 29:33Something
- 29:33nice
- 29:33and
- 29:34concrete
- 29:34like
- 29:35that.
- 29:35Three
- 29:36is
- 29:37you'll
- 29:37need
- 29:37a
- 29:37number.
- 29:38Now,
- 29:38I
- 29:39always
- 29:39like
- 29:39if
- 29:39you're
- 29:39going
- 29:40for
- 29:40a
- 29:40new
- 29:41job,
- 29:41I
- 29:42like
- 29:42them
- 29:42to
- 29:42say
- 29:43the
- 29:43first
- 29:43number
- 29:44for
- 29:44pay
- 29:44when
- 29:44you're
- 29:45negotiating
- 29:45that
- 29:46new
- 29:46job.
- 29:47But
- 29:48when
- 29:48you're
- 29:48asking
- 29:49for
- 29:49a
- 29:49raise
- 29:49in
- 29:50a
- 29:50job,
- 29:50you
- 29:50already
- 29:51have
- 29:52this
- 29:53kind
- 29:53of
- 29:53flips.
- 29:54Generally
- 29:54speaking,
- 29:55it
- 29:55is
- 29:55better
- 29:56when
- 29:56you're
- 29:56asking
- 29:57for
- 29:57a
- 29:57raise.
- 29:58Go
- 29:58in
- 29:58with
- 29:58a
- 29:59specific
- 29:59number
- 29:59or
- 30:00a
- 30:00range
- 30:00that
- 30:01you've
- 30:01researched
- 30:02and
- 30:02you
- 30:02can
- 30:02justify
- 30:03it.
- 30:03It
- 30:04is
- 30:04easier
- 30:05for
- 30:05a
- 30:05manager
- 30:05to
- 30:06say
- 30:06yes
- 30:06to
- 30:07something
- 30:07specific
- 30:08than
- 30:09for
- 30:09them
- 30:09to
- 30:10generate
- 30:10a
- 30:10number
- 30:11out
- 30:11of
- 30:11thin
- 30:11air
- 30:12on
- 30:12your
- 30:12behalf.
- 30:12That's
- 30:13why
- 30:14the
- 30:14research
- 30:15you
- 30:15did
- 30:15earlier
- 30:16is
- 30:16helpful.
- 30:17If
- 30:17you
- 30:17know
- 30:17that
- 30:18you're
- 30:18being
- 30:18underpaid
- 30:19compared
- 30:19to
- 30:19market
- 30:19rate
- 30:20for
- 30:20the
- 30:20rest
- 30:20of
- 30:20your
- 30:20industry,
- 30:21that's
- 30:22really
- 30:22useful
- 30:22to
- 30:22know.
- 30:24Now,
- 30:24the
- 30:24conversation
- 30:24itself,
- 30:25again
- 30:25with
- 30:25some
- 30:25mild
- 30:26tough
- 30:26love,
- 30:27but
- 30:27this
- 30:27is
- 30:27because
- 30:27I
- 30:28actually
- 30:28want
- 30:29you
- 30:29to
- 30:29win
- 30:29here.
- 30:30This
- 30:30conversation
- 30:31is
- 30:31about
- 30:32you,
- 30:32but
- 30:32it's
- 30:33also
- 30:33kind
- 30:33of
- 30:33not
- 30:34because
- 30:35it's
- 30:35about
- 30:35how
- 30:36useful
- 30:37you
- 30:37are
- 30:38to
- 30:38the
- 30:38company.
- 30:40So
- 30:40you
- 30:40want
- 30:40the
- 30:40conversation
- 30:41to
- 30:41focus
- 30:41on
- 30:42your
- 30:42contribution,
- 30:43not
- 30:43your
- 30:43needs.
- 30:45It's
- 30:45not,
- 30:46I
- 30:46really
- 30:46need
- 30:47more
- 30:47money
- 30:47because
- 30:48everything
- 30:48is
- 30:48so
- 30:48expensive
- 30:49right
- 30:49now,
- 30:50even
- 30:50though
- 30:50that
- 30:50is
- 30:51almost
- 30:51certainly
- 30:51true.
- 30:53But
- 30:53you
- 30:53convince
- 30:54people
- 30:55by
- 30:55negotiating
- 30:56from
- 30:56their
- 30:57point
- 30:57of
- 30:57view,
- 30:58what
- 30:59matters
- 31:00to
- 31:00them,
- 31:01and
- 31:01you
- 31:01lead
- 31:01with
- 31:02that.
- 31:03Something
- 31:03like,
- 31:04I
- 31:05wanted
- 31:05to
- 31:05talk
- 31:05to
- 31:05you
- 31:05about
- 31:06my
- 31:06salary.
- 31:07I've
- 31:07been
- 31:07looking
- 31:07at
- 31:07what
- 31:08the
- 31:08market
- 31:08is
- 31:08paying
- 31:09for
- 31:09this
- 31:09kind
- 31:09of
- 31:10role,
- 31:10and
- 31:11I
- 31:11think
- 31:11that
- 31:11there
- 31:11is
- 31:11a
- 31:12gap
- 31:12here.
- 31:13And
- 31:13I
- 31:13also
- 31:13wanted
- 31:14to
- 31:14walk
- 31:14you
- 31:14through
- 31:14some
- 31:15of
- 31:15what
- 31:15I've
- 31:15delivered
- 31:15this
- 31:16year
- 31:16because
- 31:16I
- 31:17feel
- 31:17like
- 31:18this
- 31:18is
- 31:18a
- 31:18good
- 31:19time
- 31:19to
- 31:19have
- 31:19that
- 31:20conversation.
- 31:21And
- 31:22then
- 31:22you
- 31:22lay
- 31:22out
- 31:22your
- 31:22wins
- 31:23and
- 31:24then
- 31:24you
- 31:24name
- 31:24your
- 31:24number.
- 31:25And
- 31:26then
- 31:27this
- 31:27is
- 31:27the
- 31:27bit
- 31:27that
- 31:28people
- 31:28often
- 31:28mess
- 31:29up.
- 31:29Stop
- 31:30talking.
- 31:31Stop
- 31:32talking.
- 31:34You've
- 31:34made
- 31:34your
- 31:34case.
- 31:36Let
- 31:36them
- 31:37respond.
- 31:38Silence
- 31:39feels
- 31:39really
- 31:39uncomfortable.
- 31:41Motor
- 31:41mouth
- 31:42is
- 31:43very
- 31:43common,
- 31:44but
- 31:45filling
- 31:45that
- 31:46silence
- 31:46yourself
- 31:47undermines
- 31:48your
- 31:48position.
- 31:50Just
- 31:50make
- 31:50your
- 31:50case,
- 31:52make
- 31:52it
- 31:52well.
- 31:53State
- 31:53your
- 31:54ask
- 31:55and
- 31:55let
- 31:56them
- 31:56respond.
- 31:58If
- 31:59they
- 31:59say
- 31:59yes,
- 31:59great.
- 32:00Get
- 32:00it
- 32:00in
- 32:00writing.
- 32:01Well
- 32:01done,
- 32:01you.
- 32:02If
- 32:03they
- 32:03say
- 32:03not
- 32:04right
- 32:04now,
- 32:05you
- 32:05want
- 32:05to
- 32:06ask
- 32:06two
- 32:06things.
- 32:08One,
- 32:08what
- 32:09would
- 32:09need
- 32:09to
- 32:09change
- 32:10for
- 32:10this
- 32:10to
- 32:10be
- 32:11possible?
- 32:12And
- 32:12two,
- 32:14when
- 32:14can
- 32:14we
- 32:14Revisit
- 32:15it.
- 32:16You
- 32:16want
- 32:16a
- 32:16concrete
- 32:17deadline
- 32:17here,
- 32:18not
- 32:18just
- 32:18a
- 32:19vague,
- 32:19yeah,
- 32:19we'll
- 32:20see.
- 32:20We'll
- 32:20come
- 32:20back
- 32:20to
- 32:20it
- 32:21soon.
- 32:22And
- 32:22if
- 32:22they
- 32:23say
- 32:23no
- 32:23outright,
- 32:24with
- 32:24absolutely
- 32:25no
- 32:25pathway
- 32:25forward,
- 32:26then
- 32:26that
- 32:27is
- 32:27also
- 32:28information.
- 32:29It
- 32:29might
- 32:29be
- 32:29time
- 32:30to
- 32:30look
- 32:30at
- 32:30what
- 32:30else
- 32:31is
- 32:31out
- 32:31there.
- 32:32Where
- 32:32your
- 32:32skills
- 32:33could
- 32:33take
- 32:33you
- 32:34and
- 32:34where
- 32:34they're
- 32:35staying
- 32:36is
- 32:36still
- 32:36the
- 32:36right
- 32:36call.
- 32:37And
- 32:37that
- 32:38is
- 32:38why
- 32:38we
- 32:38take
- 32:38the
- 32:38time
- 32:39to
- 32:39know
- 32:39what's
- 32:39going
- 32:39on
- 32:39in
- 32:40our
- 32:40industry
- 32:41and
- 32:42whether
- 32:43there
- 32:43might
- 32:43be
- 32:43options
- 32:44elsewhere.
- 32:45Where's
- 32:46running
- 32:46hot?
- 32:46Moving
- 32:47on
- 32:47from
- 32:47a
- 32:48pay
- 32:48rise,
- 32:48you
- 32:48might
- 32:48be
- 32:48actively
- 32:49looking
- 32:49or
- 32:50thinking
- 32:50about
- 32:50a
- 32:50new
- 32:50job
- 32:51because
- 32:51maybe
- 32:52you've
- 32:52done
- 32:52all
- 32:52of
- 32:53that
- 32:53good
- 32:53stuff
- 32:53that
- 32:54should
- 32:54get
- 32:54you
- 32:54a
- 32:54raise,
- 32:54but
- 32:55your
- 32:55boss
- 32:55doesn't
- 32:55care
- 32:56for
- 32:57whatever
- 32:57reason,
- 32:58then
- 32:58it
- 32:59is
- 32:59time
- 32:59to
- 32:59jump.
- 32:59And
- 33:00I
- 33:00have
- 33:00people
- 33:00say
- 33:00that
- 33:00to
- 33:00me
- 33:01all
- 33:01the
- 33:01time.
- 33:01Well,
- 33:01my
- 33:01boss
- 33:01has
- 33:01said
- 33:02no
- 33:02three
- 33:02times.
- 33:02And
- 33:02I'm
- 33:02like,
- 33:03well,
- 33:03why
- 33:03are
- 33:03you
- 33:03still
- 33:03there?
- 33:04Go.
- 33:05They've
- 33:06made
- 33:06it
- 33:06clear.
- 33:07Your
- 33:07turn
- 33:08now.
- 33:09Look,
- 33:09I
- 33:09know
- 33:09it's
- 33:10easier
- 33:10said
- 33:10than
- 33:10done,
- 33:11I
- 33:11do
- 33:12know
- 33:12that.
- 33:13But
- 33:14sometimes
- 33:14you've
- 33:15just
- 33:15got
- 33:15to
- 33:15get
- 33:15moving.
- 33:15So
- 33:16how
- 33:16do
- 33:16we
- 33:16go
- 33:16about
- 33:17that?
- 33:18First,
- 33:18the
- 33:18most
- 33:19important
- 33:19thing
- 33:20I
- 33:20can
- 33:20tell
- 33:20you,
- 33:21most
- 33:22jobs
- 33:22are
- 33:22never
- 33:23advertised.
- 33:24We've
- 33:24talked
- 33:25about
- 33:25this
- 33:25before
- 33:25on
- 33:25the
- 33:25podcast.
- 33:26Research
- 33:27puts
- 33:27the
- 33:27hidden
- 33:27job
- 33:28market
- 33:28at
- 33:28somewhere
- 33:29between
- 33:2970
- 33:30and
- 33:3080%
- 33:30of
- 33:31all
- 33:31jobs.
- 33:32And
- 33:32those
- 33:32go
- 33:33to
- 33:33things
- 33:33like
- 33:34internal
- 33:34promotions,
- 33:35personal
- 33:36referrals,
- 33:37people
- 33:37found
- 33:38through
- 33:38networks.
- 33:39Employers
- 33:40love
- 33:41that
- 33:42because
- 33:43a
- 33:43warm
- 33:43referral
- 33:44saves
- 33:45them
- 33:45time.
- 33:46Comes
- 33:46with
- 33:47a
- 33:47personal
- 33:47endorsement,
- 33:48which
- 33:48means
- 33:49if
- 33:49you're
- 33:49only
- 33:50applying
- 33:50to
- 33:51job
- 33:51ads,
- 33:52you're
- 33:53fishing
- 33:53in
- 33:5320
- 33:54to
- 33:5430%
- 33:54of
- 33:55the
- 33:55pond.
- 33:56So
- 33:57what
- 33:57do
- 33:58you
- 33:58do
- 33:58about
- 33:58the
- 33:59rest?
- 33:59You
- 33:59get
- 34:00back
- 34:00in
- 34:00front
- 34:00of
- 34:00people.
- 34:01Not
- 34:01in
- 34:01a
- 34:01cringy
- 34:02networking
- 34:03way.
- 34:03Just
- 34:04see
- 34:04people,
- 34:05Go
- 34:06to
- 34:06industry
- 34:06events,
- 34:07have
- 34:07coffee
- 34:08with
- 34:08former
- 34:08colleagues,
- 34:09be
- 34:09findable
- 34:09and
- 34:09friendly
- 34:10on
- 34:10places
- 34:11like
- 34:11LinkedIn.
- 34:12Sorry
- 34:12to
- 34:12say
- 34:12it,
- 34:13but
- 34:13it
- 34:13is
- 34:13useful.
- 34:14Comment
- 34:15on
- 34:15things
- 34:15in
- 34:16your
- 34:16industry.
- 34:17The
- 34:18weak
- 34:18ties,
- 34:19the
- 34:19people
- 34:19you
- 34:20sort
- 34:20of
- 34:20know,
- 34:21who
- 34:21you
- 34:22bump
- 34:22into
- 34:22occasionally.
- 34:23Those
- 34:24are
- 34:24often
- 34:24the
- 34:24ones
- 34:25who
- 34:25end
- 34:25up
- 34:26saying,
- 34:26oh,
- 34:27actually,
- 34:28I
- 34:28think
- 34:28I
- 34:28know
- 34:29someone.
- 34:29Let
- 34:29me
- 34:29shoot
- 34:30them
- 34:30a
- 34:30message.
- 34:31And
- 34:32when
- 34:32you
- 34:32are
- 34:32applying
- 34:33for
- 34:33roles,
- 34:34be
- 34:34targeted.
- 34:36Look
- 34:36at
- 34:36things
- 34:36like
- 34:36that.
- 34:37Seek
- 34:37data,
- 34:38look
- 34:38at
- 34:38where
- 34:38the
- 34:39growth
- 34:39is.
- 34:39If
- 34:40you're
- 34:40in
- 34:40marketing,
- 34:41the
- 34:41ICT
- 34:42sector
- 34:42is
- 34:42hiring.
- 34:44Logistics
- 34:44companies
- 34:45are
- 34:45growing
- 34:46fast
- 34:46and
- 34:46need
- 34:47operations.
- 34:47People,
- 34:48think
- 34:49about
- 34:49where
- 34:49your
- 34:49skills
- 34:50translate
- 34:51into
- 34:51a
- 34:51growing
- 34:52sector,
- 34:53not
- 34:53just
- 34:53the
- 34:53obvious
- 34:54equivalent
- 34:55of
- 34:55your
- 34:55current
- 34:56role.
- 34:56Look
- 34:57at
- 34:57the
- 34:57trend
- 34:57you're
- 34:58seeing
- 34:58and
- 34:59think,
- 34:59okay,
- 34:59even
- 34:59if
- 34:59that
- 35:00doesn't
- 35:00apply
- 35:00to
- 35:00my
- 35:01current
- 35:01industry,
- 35:03does
- 35:03it?
- 35:04In
- 35:04a
- 35:05way
- 35:05that
- 35:05I
- 35:05haven't
- 35:05considered
- 35:06before.
- 35:07Is
- 35:07there
- 35:08going
- 35:08to
- 35:08be
- 35:09a
- 35:09sideways
- 35:09move
- 35:10here
- 35:10that's
- 35:10running
- 35:10hot.
- 35:12Tailor
- 35:12your
- 35:12applications
- 35:14to
- 35:14what
- 35:14specific
- 35:15employers
- 35:16are
- 35:16worried
- 35:17about
- 35:18right
- 35:18now.
- 35:20Costs,
- 35:20efficiency,
- 35:21technology,
- 35:22what's
- 35:22going
- 35:22on.
- 35:24If
- 35:24you
- 35:24can
- 35:25show
- 35:25you
- 35:25understand
- 35:26their
- 35:26pressures
- 35:26and
- 35:26have
- 35:27something
- 35:27to
- 35:27offer
- 35:27against
- 35:28those
- 35:28pressures,
- 35:29you
- 35:29stand
- 35:30out
- 35:30immediately.
- 35:32Because
- 35:33I
- 35:33think
- 35:33the
- 35:33important
- 35:34thing
- 35:34to
- 35:34remember
- 35:34at
- 35:35a
- 35:35moment
- 35:35like
- 35:35this
- 35:35is
- 35:36that
- 35:36tough
- 35:37markets
- 35:38can
- 35:39actually
- 35:39create
- 35:40movement.
- 35:42It
- 35:42can
- 35:42force
- 35:44creativity
- 35:45and
- 35:45change,
- 35:46and
- 35:47that
- 35:48creativity
- 35:48and
- 35:49change
- 35:49can
- 35:49be
- 35:49unsettling.
- 35:50But
- 35:50it
- 35:50can
- 35:51also
- 35:52be
- 35:52an
- 35:52opportunity,
- 35:54but
- 35:54only
- 35:55for
- 35:55the
- 35:55people
- 35:55who
- 35:56are
- 35:56paying
- 35:56attention
- 35:57and
- 35:57actually
- 35:58doing
- 35:58something,
- 35:59being
- 35:59active
- 36:00on
- 36:00this.
- 36:01The
- 36:01numbers
- 36:01show
- 36:01us
- 36:02jobs
- 36:02are
- 36:02being
- 36:03created
- 36:04in
- 36:04trades
- 36:04and
- 36:05logistics,
- 36:05in
- 36:06technology
- 36:06and
- 36:06automation.
- 36:07The
- 36:07question
- 36:08is
- 36:09whether
- 36:09you're
- 36:10positioned
- 36:11to
- 36:11access
- 36:11them.
- 36:12And
- 36:13the
- 36:13people
- 36:13who
- 36:13come
- 36:13out
- 36:13ahead
- 36:14after
- 36:14times
- 36:15like
- 36:15this
- 36:15are
- 36:15pretty
- 36:16much
- 36:16never
- 36:17the
- 36:17ones
- 36:18who
- 36:18waited
- 36:19for
- 36:19things
- 36:19to
- 36:20feel
- 36:20better
- 36:21before
- 36:21making
- 36:21a
- 36:22move.
- 36:22They're
- 36:23the
- 36:23ones
- 36:23who
- 36:24updated
- 36:24their
- 36:25skills,
- 36:26had
- 36:26a
- 36:26conversation,
- 36:27asked
- 36:28for
- 36:28the
- 36:28thing
- 36:29that
- 36:29they
- 36:29wanted,
- 36:30made
- 36:30themselves
- 36:31valuable
- 36:32somewhere
- 36:33new.
- 36:34Small
- 36:34actions
- 36:35taken
- 36:36now
- 36:37and
- 36:37it
- 36:37turns
- 36:38into
- 36:39real
- 36:39dollars.
- 36:40It
- 36:41is
- 36:41the
- 36:41same
- 36:41as
- 36:41when
- 36:42I
- 36:42talk
- 36:42about
- 36:42investing
- 36:43and
- 36:43the
- 36:43momentum
- 36:44you
- 36:44can
- 36:44build
- 36:44with
- 36:45$5
- 36:45a
- 36:45week
- 36:46doing
- 36:47little
- 36:47things
- 36:48on
- 36:48your
- 36:48career.
- 36:49It
- 36:49feels
- 36:49like
- 36:49you're
- 36:50doing
- 36:50nothing
- 36:50until
- 36:50it
- 36:51all
- 36:51happens
- 36:51at
- 36:51once
- 36:51and
- 36:52that
- 36:52it
- 36:52is
- 36:53real
- 36:53money
- 36:54at
- 36:54the
- 36:54end
- 36:54of
- 36:54it.
- 36:55So
- 36:55pick
- 36:56one
- 36:56thing
- 36:57from
- 36:57today.
- 36:58One
- 36:59skill
- 36:59to
- 37:00look
- 37:00into,
- 37:00one
- 37:01conversation
- 37:02to
- 37:02have,
- 37:02one
- 37:03message
- 37:03to
- 37:04send.
- 37:04It
- 37:04can
- 37:04be
- 37:04just
- 37:05one,
- 37:05but
- 37:06pick
- 37:06it,
- 37:06do
- 37:07it.
- 37:07Move.
- 37:08And
- 37:08do
- 37:09one
- 37:09thing
- 37:10either
- 37:11every
- 37:11day
- 37:11or
- 37:12every
- 37:12week
- 37:13to
- 37:13keep
- 37:13building
- 37:14on
- 37:15that
- 37:15momentum.
- 37:15Put
- 37:16it
- 37:16in
- 37:16your
- 37:16calendar.
- 37:17Make
- 37:18sure
- 37:18you're
- 37:18doing
- 37:19one
- 37:20thing
- 37:20regularly.
- 37:21Just
- 37:22nudge
- 37:22that
- 37:23needle
- 37:23forward.
- 37:24Now.
- 37:25If
- 37:25this
- 37:25episode
- 37:25was
- 37:26helpful
- 37:26to
- 37:26you,
- 37:26send
- 37:27it
- 37:27to
- 37:27a
- 37:27friend
- 37:27so
- 37:27we
- 37:27can
- 37:28all
- 37:28level
- 37:28up
- 37:28together.
- 37:28Until
- 37:29next
- 37:29time,
- 37:30have
- 37:30a
- 37:30great
- 37:30day.
- 37:32This
- 37:32podcast
- 37:33can
- 37:33only
- 37:33give
- 37:33you
- 37:34general
- 37:34information
- 37:34about
- 37:35how
- 37:35things
- 37:35work
- 37:36in
- 37:36most
- 37:36situations.
- 37:37It's
- 37:38not
- 37:38individual
- 37:38financial
- 37:39advice.
- 37:40If
- 37:40you're
- 37:40after
- 37:40that,
- 37:41a
- 37:41financial
- 37:41advisor
- 37:42is
- 37:42always
- 37:43the
- 37:43best
- 37:43bet.