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DOPE DIDDY: DIDDY’S DRUG MULE TELLS ALL · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 2: Where was HR when all of this was happening.
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  Speaker 3: You pointed out what company?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 3: So this is basically HR doing P Diddy's bidding.
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  Speaker 4: HR equals hell racket. Nobody did anything. It is the
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  Speaker 4: playbook powerful people over less fortunate people.
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  Speaker 5: The jury is watching you butt naked or maybe he
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  Speaker 5: had a burka on, and they're all looking over at him.
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  Speaker 5: What can he do? What did he do?
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  Speaker 6: I'll tell you what he did. He actually looked like
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  Speaker 6: he was a little bit proud.
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  Speaker 1: It was odd.
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  Speaker 6: It seemed like he was proud of what the jurors saw.
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  Speaker 7: And I literally sat there and said that man has
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  Speaker 7: not learned a thing.
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  Speaker 5: Hotel nights would last up to thirty hours.
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  Speaker 7: The freakings weren't just like bamm bam, thank you, ma'am.
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  Speaker 6: Positions held for three four hours.
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  Speaker 2: The ouch I'd want to go see the chiropractor, a.
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  Speaker 6: Cracked out Loki and the Marvel.
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  Speaker 2: Universe told that position, aren't your back? What breathe in?
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  Speaker 1: What?
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  Speaker 2: Straight out?
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  Speaker 5: To Tisa Tails joining us at the Monahan Federal Courthouse
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  Speaker 5: where Shawn Combs is being tried on a multi count
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  Speaker 5: federal indictment. Tisa the Star off Tasa tales on YouTube
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  Speaker 5: TISA What is the Latest Nancy?
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  Speaker 6: Today was an incredible day for the prosecution.
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  Speaker 7: They are this close to resting their case, but there
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  Speaker 7: were a couple of bombshells put out. First of all,
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  Speaker 7: Briance still did his best to create Fulton Counting Magic.
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  Speaker 6: Basically trying to get us into the whole lifestyle.
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  Speaker 7: Apparently, if you're working on an album, Apparently, if you're
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  Speaker 7: working toward.
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  Speaker 6: A goal, it doesn't matter if you break the law.
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  Speaker 6: That's right. The defense put.
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  Speaker 7: Out, it's I guess this whole thing, that this is
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  Speaker 7: a lifestyle.
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  Speaker 6: Unfortunately, they seem to forget that it was illegal.
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  Speaker 7: And one of the most shocking moments, they asked Brendan
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  Speaker 7: Paul whether he thought his boss was a criminal. They
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  Speaker 7: asked whether they thought his boss was installed in crime.
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  Speaker 6: They literally asked them, do you think you're a criminal?
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  Speaker 7: However, what was their conclusion, according to Brendan Tull, absolutely not.
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  Speaker 6: Mister Paul, Are you forgetting how you came to be
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  Speaker 6: in this place? Because I feel like we need to
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  Speaker 6: roll it back like Freaky Friday. How did you end
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  Speaker 6: up here?
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  Speaker 7: You are arrested with drugs at thought OPA Loca Airport
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  Speaker 7: while you were about to get on a plane, a
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  Speaker 7: private plane with your boss in the course of business
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  Speaker 7: and transport drugs that your boss left.
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  Speaker 6: The night before in his apartment.
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  Speaker 7: Now, I might not be the greatest legal mind ever,
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  Speaker 7: but I'm pretty sure in the United States.
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  Speaker 6: Of America, you have just admitted to plenty of crimes.
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  Speaker 6: Imagine a man that is on the stand because you
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  Speaker 6: had to take community for.
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  Speaker 7: Doing illegal stuff, sitting there talking about what a great
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  Speaker 7: man he was, and he only maybe bought five hundred
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  Speaker 7: and drugs here a thousand and hair, sir, what about
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  Speaker 7: the five thousand and weed?
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  Speaker 6: Again?
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  Speaker 7: A lot of people were scratching their heads, and a
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  Speaker 7: lot of people were looking at Brian still saying you
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  Speaker 7: did all this because you were working on an album, which,
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  Speaker 7: by the way, flopped.
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  Speaker 6: You guys, Brian Steele.
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  Speaker 7: Was telling bedtime stories and fairy tales. He needs to
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  Speaker 7: write for Disney and Pixar because the story he was
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  Speaker 7: trying to paint was.
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  Speaker 6: Not grounded in reality. The defense promise at the beginning
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  Speaker 6: of this trial that they might go to the eighteenth
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  Speaker 6: They had the whole world. They were gonna show what's
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  Speaker 6: a lifestyle?
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  Speaker 7: Instead, they showed that Brian still what's moreland Mark Agnifilio,
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  Speaker 7: Tenny Garrett goes, and of course Xavier Donaldson need to
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  Speaker 7: work for Disney Pixar because they were writing bedtime stories
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  Speaker 7: mixed with a.
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  Speaker 6: Little fairy tale.
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  Speaker 7: You guys, But it looks like the defense and a
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  Speaker 7: shocking turn of events, has admitted defeat or at the
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  Speaker 7: very least and ungrounded confidence. They went from saying that
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  Speaker 7: their whole trial is going to be five days for
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  Speaker 7: them to put on their defense case, they have now
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  Speaker 7: shortened it down to one maybe two days now. Listen,
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  Speaker 7: a lot of people gassed in the courtroom one to
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  Speaker 7: two days. Sir, you know you've lost the crowd because
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  Speaker 7: the first thing I thought, is Kanye going to testify?
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  Speaker 6: You know you've lost the crowd.
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  Speaker 7: Where even Kanye West has decided it's not a good
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  Speaker 7: idea for him to get on the stand. There is
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  Speaker 7: not enough time for anybody to testify. Again, what does
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  Speaker 7: this mean? It means that some people think that did
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  Speaker 7: he might get off because he's over confident, But again,
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  Speaker 7: pride goes before the fall.
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  Speaker 6: Where is this offense?
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  Speaker 7: Where are all the celebrities that were going to testify
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  Speaker 7: on this behalf. Where all the employees that are going
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  Speaker 7: to testify it was just a lifestyle and they knew nothing.
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  Speaker 6: It's very very some people see this confidence.
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  Speaker 7: I see it as a red flag that the prosecution
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  Speaker 7: has proven their case without a shred of doubt.
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  Speaker 6: Again, where are all these employees.
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  Speaker 7: That can testify it wasn't a criminal organization where all these.
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  Speaker 6: Employees were feuding.
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  Speaker 7: What the prosecution witnesses said, again, it's a bold move.
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  Speaker 6: We'll see what it means.
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  Speaker 1: But Taysa, How did Sean comes respond?
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  Speaker 7: Listen today, Diddy? This is Diddy's worst week ever. Diddy
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  Speaker 7: was begging for during number seven to be kicked off.
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  Speaker 7: They even started some nonsense asking about to acquire into
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  Speaker 7: the medical records about the jura that could not be
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  Speaker 7: there one Wednesday. Now, I'm not gonna lie and Nancy
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  Speaker 7: party me said, I hope that during gets better, but
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  Speaker 7: can they maybe be sick on Friday too, so we
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  Speaker 7: could get a five day week. As you see, that
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  Speaker 7: did not happen. However, it did create another opportunity. We
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  Speaker 7: were also happy to see.
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  Speaker 6: Didty literally got all of.
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  Speaker 7: His motions rejected and that secret phone that Didd he
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  Speaker 7: tried to hide from the prosecutors that they are going
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  Speaker 7: to look at for a possible obstruction of justice charge.
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  Speaker 6: Was admitted in evidence. Okay, so a lot of crushing
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  Speaker 6: defeats to Diddy.
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  Speaker 7: You have the jurors, you have, the jury stays diverse.
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  Speaker 7: But Diddy just got bad news upon bad news. But
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  Speaker 7: as it stands, and we know what the Diddy trial,
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  Speaker 7: things changed daily. The jurors that we have are going
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  Speaker 7: to be the one to go to deliberation, which, by
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  Speaker 7: the way, all right, which by the way, Diddy's team
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  Speaker 7: has informed us that they're not even going to put
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  Speaker 7: on a five day defense. They're going to be done
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  Speaker 7: in one to two business days.
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  Speaker 1: You guys.
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  Speaker 6: Again, some people are saying this is a sign that
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  Speaker 6: did he thinks, say proven their case.
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  Speaker 7: I see it as a sign of desperation, or maybe
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  Speaker 7: Diddy says it's over and I don't want to have
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  Speaker 7: to pay you guys another moment. I don't want to
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  Speaker 7: pay you guys for another moment, because again, Diddy literally
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  Speaker 7: paid millions of dollars in order for people to try
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  Speaker 7: to make rotten zucchini into something. We're not talking limbs
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  Speaker 7: and a lemonade. We're talking rotten zucchini and what do
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  Speaker 7: you do with that? Well, according to most cooks, just
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  Speaker 7: like Didny's career, his life, and his chance of freedom,
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  Speaker 7: it looks like it just got tossed in the trash.
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  Speaker 5: Joining us now outside the Monahan Courthouse in downtown Manhattan,
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  Speaker 5: Lauren Conlin, star.
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  Speaker 2: Off Pop Crime TV on YouTube.
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  Speaker 5: Lauren, thank you for being with us, Lauren, I understand
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  Speaker 5: that there was so much baby oil at a free cough.
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  Speaker 5: We have already heard about two slip and falls. Listen, Lauren.
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  Speaker 8: Jonathan Perez is Shaan Combs's fourth assistant to take the
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  Speaker 8: stand with Immunity. Perez testifies that he worked directly under
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  Speaker 8: Christina Koram, who instructed him on setting up King Knights,
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  Speaker 8: which korm described as Combs's private time with a woman.
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  Speaker 8: Perez says the task was usually left to the night's
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  Speaker 8: staff and he only set up for about five of
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  Speaker 8: these nights, even had to purchase lingerie for Jane for
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  Speaker 8: the King Knights. Perez says he cleaned up the messy
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  Speaker 8: rooms afterward and they were often covered in oil. Replying
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  Speaker 8: to Korum about how a cleanup was going, Perez texted,
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  Speaker 8: slipped and fell twice already Perez says Combs also sent
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  Speaker 8: him to pick up drugs.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, objection, ew what happened? The guys had two slip
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  Speaker 5: and falls in all the oil.
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  Speaker 9: Yes, Unfortunately that is what we saw in evidence when
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  Speaker 9: we saw these text messages between Christina Korum and Jonathan Perez,
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  Speaker 9: one of Ditty's assistants. We also saw a text message
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  Speaker 9: from Christina Korum to Jane actually stating that the rooms
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  Speaker 9: that she and Ditty would use there always would be
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  Speaker 9: extra damage charges because they were all white and more
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  Speaker 9: oil filled than normal.
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  Speaker 10: So it's been a bit stomach turning.
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  Speaker 5: Nancy joining us now outside the Monahan courtouse is Tisa
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  Speaker 5: tells Tisa, I understand that Sean Combs has been First
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  Speaker 5: of all, he tried the Bible. Okay, then I guess
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  Speaker 5: this lawyer's told him that's not a good idea. You
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  Speaker 5: need to stop that right now. Reading the Bible in
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  Speaker 5: front of the jury. Now, if you had any history
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  Speaker 5: of ever going to church or reading the Bible in
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  Speaker 5: the past, it might not have been a bad move.
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  Speaker 5: But using the Bible as a prop I'm surprised he
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  Speaker 5: wasn't struck by a bolt of lightning that said. Now,
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  Speaker 5: he's got a new book he's bringing into court, The.
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  Speaker 2: Magic of Believing.
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  Speaker 5: Now, if I'm right, that's all about manifesting your truth,
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  Speaker 5: like manifesting a not guilty.
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  Speaker 1: Is this real?
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  Speaker 6: It is actually real? He has some sort of manifestation book.
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  Speaker 7: But again, well each week at this point, I think
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  Speaker 7: he's going to bring in a guide to the Dark
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  Speaker 7: Arts from Hogwarts if we let him keep going.
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  Speaker 6: He is sliding down the walls. And the thing is,
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  Speaker 6: he keeps trying to bring in these props to me,
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  Speaker 6: the Bible perfect prop for him.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, like you said, you're about to have thunder and
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  Speaker 7: lightning in the courtroom.
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  Speaker 6: Now he's all about manifesting. He's trying to remind.
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  Speaker 7: Us of the brain marching he gave the nation for
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  Speaker 7: the last ten years and bring that in. But at
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  Speaker 7: this point it's turned into a joke, which makes me
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  Speaker 7: believe how much is our is a legal team actually
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  Speaker 7: monitoring social media? Because this is turned into a joke again,
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  Speaker 7: what is he going to bring in? What is he
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  Speaker 7: going to bring in next? How to make friends and
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  Speaker 7: win enemies? I mean, no one really knows what's going on.
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  Speaker 7: So again Diddy is trying his best to turn this
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  Speaker 7: into a circus, but the judge has a firm hold
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  Speaker 7: on the courtroom and he's letting it know this is
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  Speaker 7: going to be above board.
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  Speaker 6: So he's struggling. He's definitely struggling.
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  Speaker 1: Crime Stores with Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 5: Shawn Combs in the courtroom manifesting I'm not guilty verdict.
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  Speaker 11: Listen is Sean Didy Coombs trying to manifest a not
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  Speaker 11: guilty verdict. The music mogul has been spotted carrying a
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  Speaker 11: self help book, The Magic of Believing, back and forth
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  Speaker 11: to court. Legal experts say it isn't uncommon for defendants
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  Speaker 11: to turn to some sort of coping mechanism during lengthy
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  Speaker 11: and stressful trials, and Comb's book of choice is used
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  Speaker 11: by many for mental fortitude in challenging situations.
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  Speaker 5: Doctor Bethany manifesting for those of us that aren't really
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  Speaker 5: familiar with that, could you explain what it is? Is
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  Speaker 5: it like, oh, wish it and it comes true?
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  Speaker 3: Like I dream of Genie?
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  Speaker 9: You know?
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  Speaker 6: You know.
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  Speaker 3: Manifesting is this idea that if you form a thought
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  Speaker 3: in your mind, you can materialize it in the environment.
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  Speaker 3: So let's say you want to be an actress, You
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  Speaker 3: meditate and you imagine yourself being in front of the camera,
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  Speaker 3: being enjoying being, you know, getting your next oscar, and
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  Speaker 3: that if you can sum it up enough feelings about
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  Speaker 3: that event, then you can rearrange sort of what's going
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  Speaker 3: on in the environment to make that event happen. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you know whether or not this is true?
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  Speaker 2: Okay?
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  Speaker 3: So P did he controls?
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  Speaker 5: You?
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  Speaker 1: Actually just say.
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  Speaker 2: Whether or not this is true? Okay? Whether did you
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  Speaker 2: say that? Because I think you did, Whether it's not true?
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  Speaker 2: How about going.
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  Speaker 5: To school and getting a job to advance your goal?
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  Speaker 2: What about what are Okay?
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  Speaker 5: So you don't tell your clients sit there and wish
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  Speaker 5: it and it will happen.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, So just like P did, he tries to
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  Speaker 3: control his victims. I think he's trying to control God.
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  Speaker 3: I mean it's like he's trying to go to the universe.
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  Speaker 5: Meant, Bethany, please, unless we really need to drag God
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  Speaker 5: into this, let's please leave him her out of it.
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  Speaker 5: Just first of all, you evaded the question do you
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  Speaker 5: tell your clients to manifest?
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  Speaker 3: I do not, but many of my Beverly Hills clients
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  Speaker 3: come in with a goal they're trying to manifest. So
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  Speaker 3: I try to turn it into real life, you know, actualization, meeting,
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  Speaker 3: acting on their both their own behalf to reach the goal,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Nancy.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, now you're losing me. You're totally losing me in
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  Speaker 5: all the words or of words. Okay, thank goodness, you
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  Speaker 5: don't tell your clients to manifest. Okay, Sidney Sumner. What
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  Speaker 5: does Kanye and his million dollar titanium teeth drool have
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  Speaker 5: to do with Sean Combs?
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  Speaker 12: Well, Nancy, Kanye West has been one of the only
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  Speaker 12: public supporters of Diddy throughout this thing, and it's interesting
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  Speaker 12: because they weren't really close before this. Sean Combs and
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  Speaker 12: Kanye West kind of had a falling out over Kanye
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  Speaker 12: White Lives Matter t shirt line and they haven't really
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  Speaker 12: been close since then. But now that Sean Kalms is
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  Speaker 12: behind bars, Kanye West has apparently been reaching out to
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  Speaker 12: his sons and offering support. And we saw that devolved
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  Speaker 12: from pushing Sean Jalon's merchandise on his website to selling
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  Speaker 12: swastika T shirts on his website in this tie raid
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  Speaker 12: that kind of unfolded during Super Bowl Week.
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  Speaker 5: Oh yes, let's take a look at the swastika T
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  Speaker 5: shirt back to Troy Slayton, joining US veteran trial lawyer
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  Speaker 5: out of LA. Troy Slayton, I mean, with friends like this,
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  Speaker 5: why would they bring Kanye to court, a known Hitler sympathizer.
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  Speaker 13: I don't think Ditty's defense team had anything to do
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  Speaker 13: with this. I think Kanye did this on his own
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  Speaker 13: because he's selling free Diddy merchandise. If I was Ditty's
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  Speaker 13: defense team, I'm not calling in UH Kanye West with
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  Speaker 13: his UH, with his swastikas and his hal Hitler merchandise.
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  Speaker 10: Absolutely not.
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  Speaker 13: I think Kanye did this absolutely on his own because
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  Speaker 13: he's trying to sell merch He's trying to make money
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  Speaker 13: off all the free publicity surrounding this trial.
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  Speaker 5: Toroy Slaytony, it cannot help Shawn Combs, not that I
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  Speaker 5: want him to be helped, but it can't help Shawn Combs.
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  Speaker 5: For Kanye to show up, I don't know if ther
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  Speaker 5: even realized what was happening.
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  Speaker 2: But it's done now. Can I ask you.
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  Speaker 5: Very quickly, Troy Slayton, I'm gonna circle back to the
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  Speaker 5: chaos in the courtroom surrounding GURR number six, Okay, and
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  Speaker 5: will that be reversible error?
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  Speaker 2: If there's a conviction.
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  Speaker 5: Could you explain why, whether he's black, white, purple, or green,
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  Speaker 5: that juror had to go.
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  Speaker 13: Well, I understand why the judge dismissed them, but I
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  Speaker 13: also understand why it's going to be fertile ground for
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  Speaker 13: al because there's this little thing in this country called
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  Speaker 13: the Constitution, and the equal protection clause of the fourteenth
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  Speaker 13: Amendment says everybody has to be treated equal. And how
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  Speaker 13: that applies to this trial is that you can't dismiss
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  Speaker 13: somebody because of their race. You can't. And so if
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  Speaker 13: the jurors, I mean, if.
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  Speaker 2: The prosecutor Slaton, yes.
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  Speaker 10: Nancy, if the prosecutors we all.
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  Speaker 5: No color, we all accept that a juror cannot be
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  Speaker 5: thrown off or thrown out of the Va Dyer process
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  Speaker 5: because of their race. Batsan Vie, Kentucky. It's an age
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  Speaker 5: old case, right. We all know that this jar was
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  Speaker 5: placed on the jury. He was not deselected because of
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  Speaker 5: his race. But Troy, he stated, he doesn't live in
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  Speaker 5: the jurisdiction.
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  Speaker 2: He can't be on the jury.
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  Speaker 5: You can't get away, you can't behave that constitutional right.
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  Speaker 13: They didn't even give him a chance to explain, Nancy.
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  Speaker 13: They kicked him out. He gave inconsistent answers. At one
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  Speaker 13: point he made he said he lived in New Jersey.
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  Speaker 13: The other point he said he lived in the Bronx.
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  Speaker 13: So it's not clear exactly where he lived or if
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  Speaker 13: he moved.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, let's get some clarification very quickly, Sidney Sumner, what
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  Speaker 5: exactly did he say?
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  Speaker 1: Plays school Troy Slayton Nancy.
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  Speaker 12: The judge said that the issue of race could not
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  Speaker 12: outweigh the fact that this juror was possibly lying or
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  Speaker 12: trying to stay on this panel. The juror was very
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  Speaker 12: unclear and whether or not he actually resided in New
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  Speaker 12: Jersey or if he resided in the Bronx full time,
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  Speaker 12: and that inconsistency led the judge to believe that this
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  Speaker 12: juror was not being truthful because he wanted to stay
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  Speaker 12: on the panel, and the juror should not be that
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  Speaker 12: invested in the case unless he had some kind of
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  Speaker 12: bias toward it. So the judge said, I'm sorry, but.
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  Speaker 5: His words exactly, Sidney, where did he say he lived?
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  Speaker 13: Well?
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  Speaker 12: At first on his jury questionnaire, this juror answered that
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  Speaker 12: he lived in the Bronx with his aunt. Then in
• 18:15
  Speaker 12: casual conversation with court staff, he was talking about living
• 18:19
  Speaker 12: in New Jersey with his girlfriend and his daughter. So
• 18:22
  Speaker 12: when it came back again, he told the judge, no, no, no,
• 18:25
  Speaker 12: I spend most of my time in the Bronx. So
• 18:28
  Speaker 12: we have this constant inconsistency of well, you said this,
• 18:32
  Speaker 12: now you said that, now you said this again. So
• 18:35
  Speaker 12: I don't understand what is the truth here, And at
• 18:39
  Speaker 12: that point he just could not be trusted.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: Joining us now outside the Monahan Federal Courthouse where Seawan
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: Combs is on trial in a multi count federal indictment
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: for sex trafficking and rico standing by Lauren Conlin, star
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: a pop crime TV on YouTube. Lauren, thank you for
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: being with us. Lauren, What do you make of what
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: just went down in the courtroom today?
• 19:05
  Speaker 9: In court, the government started with their first witness being
• 19:08
  Speaker 9: Brendan Paul. Brendan Paul was a former personal assistant for
• 19:13
  Speaker 9: Sean Colmbs and if you recall, Brendan Paul was actually
• 19:18
  Speaker 9: arrested at a Miami airport in March of twenty twenty four,
• 19:23
  Speaker 9: and the media had essentially dubbed Brendan Paul as this
• 19:26
  Speaker 9: quote unquote alleged drug mule Now, Brendan Paul only had
• 19:31
  Speaker 9: about er point zero seven grams of cocaine on him,
• 19:34
  Speaker 9: and he actually explained to us in the gallery and
• 19:38
  Speaker 9: to the jury that he was cleaning up one of
• 19:41
  Speaker 9: Shawn Colms's hotel rooms and he found it laying around.
• 19:44
  Speaker 9: He took it with him and then he just forgot
• 19:47
  Speaker 9: to take it out of his pocket.
• 19:49
  Speaker 10: He later told us that he had a great lawyer,
• 19:52
  Speaker 10: and his lawyer was able to get these charges dropped.
• 19:55
  Speaker 9: But he never told anyone, never told law enforcement who
• 20:00
  Speaker 9: who the cocaine belonged to, and he never talked to
• 20:03
  Speaker 9: Seawan Colmes after this arrest, and he really hadn't seen
• 20:07
  Speaker 9: him until he testified today.
• 20:09
  Speaker 10: Now Brendan Paul's background.
• 20:11
  Speaker 9: He worked for Colmbs Enterprises as a personal assistant from
• 20:17
  Speaker 9: twenty twenty two to March of twenty twenty four after
• 20:20
  Speaker 9: his arrest, about eighteen months. And this kid was actually
• 20:25
  Speaker 9: a d one walk on basketball player for Syracuse.
• 20:29
  Speaker 10: Now.
• 20:29
  Speaker 9: He testified that he wanted to be in the music
• 20:32
  Speaker 9: industry and he was pretty excited about this opportunity to
• 20:37
  Speaker 9: work for Shawn Colmes. His duties really included tasks like
• 20:42
  Speaker 9: packing Diddy's suit cases, organizing things, cleaning up his studio
• 20:48
  Speaker 9: after he was done, and he testified that he only
• 20:51
  Speaker 9: set up these quote unquote wild King Knights a handful
• 20:55
  Speaker 9: of times. He also testified that he did get drugs
• 21:00
  Speaker 9: for Ditty between five and ten times. However, he said
• 21:04
  Speaker 9: it most likely was less than ten times, and he
• 21:07
  Speaker 9: would do this through other assistance. He would text them
• 21:10
  Speaker 9: to see what Diddy needed, or he would do it
• 21:12
  Speaker 9: through KK and very rarely would he.
• 21:14
  Speaker 10: Do it through Sean Combs himself.
• 21:17
  Speaker 9: He also talked about seeing Jane very frequently and he
• 21:22
  Speaker 9: would set up these king Knights for Ditty and Jane,
• 21:25
  Speaker 9: And during Brian Steele's cross examination, Steele said to him,
• 21:29
  Speaker 9: did you speak to Jane.
• 21:31
  Speaker 10: After these Wild king Knights?
• 21:33
  Speaker 9: And he said yes, And then Brian Steele would ask
• 21:37
  Speaker 9: did she seem like she was regretful or she didn't
• 21:39
  Speaker 9: want to be there? Did you sense anything like that
• 21:43
  Speaker 9: from her? And Brendan Paul's answer was absolutely not. Brendan
• 21:48
  Speaker 9: Paul also spoke about an occasion where Ditty had asked
• 21:51
  Speaker 9: him to try a drug for him, and he wanted
• 21:54
  Speaker 9: him to try it so he could see if it
• 21:56
  Speaker 9: was good or not. And Brendan Paul said that he
• 21:59
  Speaker 9: did this, but he'd did this because he wanted to
• 22:01
  Speaker 9: be loyal to Diddy.
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  Speaker 5: We are alive at the Monahan Federal Courthouse where Shawn
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: Combs aka Ditty and many other names, is on trial
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: facing prosecution in a Multicut federal indictment including charges for
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: sex trafficking. And Rico joining me at the courthouse. Tisa
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: Tels investigator and star off Tisa tales on YouTube.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: I understand the.
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: Judge is furious about a leak. A leak, Tisa.
• 22:30
  Speaker 7: What happened, guys, what happened in the courtroom today shocked everybody.
• 22:34
  Speaker 7: Judge Aaron is done playing nice. He went in there
• 22:38
  Speaker 7: with his cloak flying behind the way. He was Lord
• 22:41
  Speaker 7: Voldemort coming to Hogwarts. He literally accused the defense council
• 22:47
  Speaker 7: and a little bit the prosecution.
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: Accused them of lying and leaking.
• 22:52
  Speaker 7: Information that can only been available to the people in
• 22:55
  Speaker 7: a sealed courtroom.
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: It was incredible.
• 22:58
  Speaker 7: On top of that, Diddy's team set they're going to
• 23:00
  Speaker 7: rest their case in two to five trial days.
• 23:02
  Speaker 6: I don't even know what that means.
• 23:04
  Speaker 7: However, there was a leak that actually came out from
• 23:08
  Speaker 7: people that were in a closed seal courtroom.
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: The only people there were the defense and the prosecution.
• 23:14
  Speaker 7: The issue was an article. There was an article that
• 23:17
  Speaker 7: was actually published. The judge hinted that it was last night.
• 23:20
  Speaker 7: He didn't tell us what it was, and he said
• 23:22
  Speaker 7: the source of the article had to be one of
• 23:24
  Speaker 7: the parties because again it was a closed courtroom, nobody
• 23:28
  Speaker 7: was supposed to know about it, and it was under
• 23:29
  Speaker 7: federal court ordered. Now again, the prosecution was like, it's
• 23:33
  Speaker 7: not us, your honor. However, the judge literally hammered Mark Agnifilio,
• 23:38
  Speaker 7: the lead council for DIDI, saying when.
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: Did you find out about this article?
• 23:42
  Speaker 7: Mark Agnophilio sat there, I don't know, stumbling over his words.
• 23:48
  Speaker 7: Then the judge said, but when were you made aware?
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: He still didn't know.
• 23:52
  Speaker 7: Finally he said, oh, we think when the prosecution sent
• 23:55
  Speaker 7: it to US. Marine Collmy literally looked like, what do
• 23:58
  Speaker 7: you mean we They were caught flat footed. They didn't
• 24:02
  Speaker 7: have any excuses. The judge finally said, listen, do you
• 24:06
  Speaker 7: know what's going to happen moving forward?
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: First of all, he said he has the right to
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: open up an investigation. He said, this is serious, he said,
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: moving forward.
• 24:13
  Speaker 7: If this happens again, he will, they will literally seize phones,
• 24:18
  Speaker 7: they will conduct a thorough investigation. They will uh, they
• 24:23
  Speaker 7: will literally question all parties under penalty of perjury, and
• 24:27
  Speaker 7: they will get to the bottom of those leaks. He said,
• 24:29
  Speaker 7: moving forward though he is putting the defense and prosecution,
• 24:33
  Speaker 7: but everybody knew he was talking to the defense on
• 24:37
  Speaker 7: on notice that if any leaks come out of their count,
• 24:40
  Speaker 7: if anything is signed off on, and anything escapes, then
• 24:43
  Speaker 7: they are holding the lead prosecutor or defense attorney accountable
• 24:48
  Speaker 7: for anything that happens in their count.
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: Judge Aaron means business. It was. It was. It was
• 24:54
  Speaker 6: shocking what happened in the courtroom.
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: You do not want to be the source of a leak,
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: and you don't want anybody on your team to be responsible.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: And that goes right down to the law.
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: Clerks and the summer interns that may have xerox papers
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: or hand it over discovery, because it reflects on you.
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: And once you lose your credibility in the courtroom technical
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: legal term.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: You're screwed. End of story.
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: Now, we just heard from Tisa Tales joining us at
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: the courthouse that the defense has now dropped their own bomb,
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: stating they're only going to put up two to five
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: days of defense witnesses straight out to Brian Fitzgibbons. Joining
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: us Director Operations, USPA nation Wide Security, he leads a
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: team of investigators.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Brian, welcome back, Thank you for.
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: Being with us. You and I have been in a
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: lot of cases. You has witnessed me as the prosecutor.
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: The defense always does it. Sadly, it took me about
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: ten years to catch on to it. I would always
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: believe them when they would say, oh, we're going to
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: be at least two or three weeks, and it never
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: was two or three weeks. But I would always take
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: them at their word and arrange my rebuttal witnesses to
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: come to town or to show up at the courthouse
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: in two or three weeks. And then sudden they go, oh, no, yeah,
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: it's just going to be like two days. And it's
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: a way to catch the state flat footed. But I
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: think it's also, again pardon the pun, puffing up when
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: you make your case to be.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: More substantial than it really is going to be.
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: Have you ever and all the times you've testified, fitz
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: Gibbons seen the defense put on the length of a
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: case they promise up front, Ever, No.
• 26:42
  Speaker 14: I think you make a great point, Nancy. What the
• 26:44
  Speaker 14: defense is going to do here is, you know they've
• 26:47
  Speaker 14: used their private investigators, and they're going to present a
• 26:51
  Speaker 14: simple shortcase to promote reasonable doubt. Right, to keep it
• 26:56
  Speaker 14: simple for the jury and point out where they're flaws
• 27:00
  Speaker 14: in the prosecution's case and provide that reasonable doubt.
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: The worst Netflix until in the world.
• 27:09
  Speaker 9: Two hundred bottles of baby oil and nine hundred bottles
• 27:13
  Speaker 9: of astroblide.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Hold it right there, r your bad breath in rhino peels.
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: He's in control of everything, beat her and subjected her
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: to three male escorts.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: She was the sex sleeve, and.
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: He's asking for his very own dateline special.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: I just want to wash my mouth out.
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: With lestrine, with lysol, with rubbing alcohol after I talk
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: about the Sean Combe's case. And I suspect some of
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: the jurors feel the same way because when they were
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: watching the States exhibit triple X the freak Cough videos,
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: they were actually turning away from the monitor, went sing
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: visibly hiding their faces.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Do you blame them?
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: But now may freakof Christmas? Everybody?
• 28:03
  Speaker 15: Special Agent Penland also reads texts from January twenty thirteen,
• 28:08
  Speaker 15: where Combs ask Cassie Ventura if she wants to celebrate
• 28:11
  Speaker 15: a late Christmas with a four man freakoff. Comb's text Adventura,
• 28:16
  Speaker 15: word for word, want to celebrate Christmas and have a
• 28:18
  Speaker 15: freak off tomorrow or Friday. Ventura then got to work
• 28:22
  Speaker 15: hiring the men with staggered arrivals for January eleventh and twelfth,
• 28:26
  Speaker 15: reaching out to three men personally and arranging for the
• 28:29
  Speaker 15: fourth from an escort service.
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: Doctor Bethany Marshall again, I need a shrink and a drink,
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: but says so'm I tey to len how to settle
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: for just a shrink?
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Did you hear that?
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: Guy's Bethany Marshall. Doctor Bethany Marshall joining us out of
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: the LA jurisdiction. She is the author of deal Breaker.
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: You can see her now on peacock and you can
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: find her at Doctorbethany Marshall dot com.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Did you hear that Merry Christmas?
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: You want to celebrate a late Christmas with a four
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: man freak cough? In other words, you have sex with
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: four sex workers?
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: You know, Nancy?
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: I hear somebody who's compulsive and addicted in terms of
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: compulsivity sex addiction. One of the things we know about
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: sex addiction is that the thoughts of sex or whatever
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: the fetishized view of sex is, becomes so prominent in
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: the perpetrator's mind that they often can't focus. Often they
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: can't even hold down a job, or they present as
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: somebody with attention deficit disorder because their mind keeps drifting
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: to sex. And then in terms of addiction, you know,
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: we think of sex as driving these free coughs, but
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: there's so much drugs involved. And I hear in the
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: testimony that he'll say, you know, I'll be up for
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: twenty four hours or forty eight hours, or there's some
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: chatter back and forth and the text about that. And
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: to me, Nancy, I think methaphetamine that's the one drug
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: that could keep somebody up for that many days. And
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: we know with methamphetamine, especially in homicide, there's often overkill.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: So if he already likes power and violence and he's
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: on meth, that's even going to ratchet up a level.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: And Nancy real quickly the jurors wincing. Wincing is an
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: instinctual response to loss of life. It's like seeing a
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: plane fall out of the sky or a big dog barking,
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: or a spider or someone ejected from a car. If
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: they are wincing, they're not just viewing sex, They're viewing battery.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: What is being done to these women? Are they being sodomized?
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: Are they being chained in compromising positions? Are they so
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: out of it they don't know what's happening?
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: Then?
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: Are they being whipped? I would be so curious to
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: know what are they seeing that is life threatening?
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: The way you just said that, Doctor Bethany, it's overwhelming,
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: It really is, because those videos are placing the jurors
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: at the freak offs and Linshaw joining me, founder director
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: of Lynn's Warriors, an organization committed to ending sex trafficking
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: and sex abuse of women and girls. When I say
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: the words freak cough, it's like eating a dirt sandwich,
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: free cough, hotel night, king night. Wow, that's certainly airbrushing
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: the whole scenario, putting perfume on the pig. It's torture,
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: it's sex abuse, it's coerced rape.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: Free cough. That sounds like it could be a music festival.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Hotel night.
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: That sounds like a fun getaway right where the twins
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: and I would camp out on the bed, order room service,
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: woo right and King Night.
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: It's anything but that for the victims.
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: Has anyone heard of sexual servitude? This is part with
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: the justice system now we are working into sex trafficking.
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: It is coercion, is force, it is fraud, sexual servitude.
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: We've seen the testimony. We've heard they were forced into this,
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: they were under the influence, they were threatened with their lives,
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: family members were threatened. We've heard so much. This dirty
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: ditty freak fest is a great, big fu not only
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: to all of us, but to all of the alleged
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: victims of his and to all all of the victims
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: of any sort of sexual exploitation and abuse across America,
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: across the globe. And you know what, this is his playbook.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: I keep going back to thinking he's smiling, he's thinking
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: he won, because you know what his playbook is money talks,
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: crime walks. I'm very concerned about this because we've got
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: to think about and we're not talking enough about them,
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: the victims. Where is this Christina Korum, I've been asking
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: for weeks now, is she going to testify it?
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: She is?
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: She isn't.
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: We don't know why isn't she testifying she is the
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: right hand. We have proof, we have text messages she
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: knew about this. We need more information, but you.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Know what, the women.
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: The bottom line here is all of these alleged victims,
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: survivors of this dirty Diddy degenerate. Their lives will never
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: be the same. We may never know names hear from them.
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: Their lives are ruined because you know what, you don't
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: get over abuse like this. But I want everybody to
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: know about sexual servitude equals sex trafficking.
• 33:19
  Speaker 7: If somehow he pulls out a not guilty verdict, he
• 33:22
  Speaker 7: is going to be hell on wills.
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: Okay, I don't like when you say if he's found
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: not guilty, he's going to be hell on wheels because
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: I'm totally getting my car car bomb like kid Cuddy.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no coming.
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: Back from the Dye Bead, Diddy and Thedity wand I've
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: gotten them all here.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna come after me.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: Straight out to TISA Tails joining us at the Monahan
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: Federal Courthouse where Shawn Combs is being tried on a
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: multi count federal indictment. TISA the Star off TASA tales
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: on YouTube TISA, what is the latest?
• 34:06
  Speaker 6: The government is this close to resting their case.
• 34:09
  Speaker 7: Brenden Pahl is this close to testifying and putting the
• 34:12
  Speaker 7: final screws in.
• 34:13
  Speaker 6: On Didty's whole Weikle operation.
• 34:16
  Speaker 7: And also people are saying they're gonna he's gonna pull
• 34:18
  Speaker 7: KK into the fray two. Yes, Diddy's Jeffrey Epstein will
• 34:23
  Speaker 7: have his same Maxwell.
• 34:25
  Speaker 6: Name, Christina Korum. But why is this so odd?
• 34:28
  Speaker 7: Because first of all, yes, I thought the same thing
• 34:31
  Speaker 7: you did. Where was Diddy when this happened? That's right,
• 34:33
  Speaker 7: He's locked up in the MDC. However, you couldn't write this.
• 34:37
  Speaker 7: Diddy's team in an astonishing move, the judge acts, does
• 34:41
  Speaker 7: anybody have any objection to the juror coming back on Friday?
• 34:44
  Speaker 7: The prosecution, no objection, your honor Diddy. Well, Yana, we
• 34:49
  Speaker 7: need to talk to our client. We all said, what
• 34:51
  Speaker 7: do you need to talk about? The juror has assured
• 34:53
  Speaker 7: the judge that he will be fine from his vertigo
• 34:56
  Speaker 7: and be back Friday morning.
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 34:59
  Speaker 7: Diddy's team then confirmed and said they wanted a sidebar
• 35:02
  Speaker 7: because they have further questions about medical.
• 35:06
  Speaker 6: Now, why is this so important?
• 35:07
  Speaker 13: Well?
• 35:08
  Speaker 6: Think about it. Diddy has been trying his best.
• 35:10
  Speaker 7: To make a connection with jurors he wanted during number
• 35:13
  Speaker 7: six to stay, he wants during number seven out. I
• 35:16
  Speaker 7: think it's fair to assume that he does not have
• 35:18
  Speaker 7: that special connection with during number seven. However, if they
• 35:22
  Speaker 7: can get this third dur out on medical grounds because
• 35:25
  Speaker 7: it's almost a home stretcher, they get sick again.
• 35:27
  Speaker 6: Who knows then this alternate.
• 35:29
  Speaker 7: And whoever it is did he must also think he
• 35:32
  Speaker 7: has a special connection with He can pull that alternate
• 35:35
  Speaker 7: down and he thinks he can increase his chances.
• 35:38
  Speaker 6: If not for a not guilty.
• 35:41
  Speaker 7: Verdict, because let's be rolled, that's not happening, but pull
• 35:43
  Speaker 7: it in so that he can actually get this mistrial
• 35:48
  Speaker 7: that he has been begging and waiting, or at the
• 35:51
  Speaker 7: very least have better grounds for an appeal.
• 35:54
  Speaker 6: So why is this so shocking?
• 35:56
  Speaker 7: Well, for one, Judge Aaron has yet to tell us
• 35:58
  Speaker 7: what's going on with again, Judge Aaron has been exceedingly fair.
• 36:02
  Speaker 7: He's expected to rule on during number seven on Friday.
• 36:06
  Speaker 7: That's if this mysterious sick juror actually.
• 36:10
  Speaker 6: Comes in again.
• 36:12
  Speaker 7: Diddy has made it very clear who he thinks he
• 36:14
  Speaker 7: has a special connection with and today he put the
• 36:17
  Speaker 7: wills in motion to try to find some medical ground
• 36:20
  Speaker 7: to strike this juror out and to pull this alternate
• 36:25
  Speaker 7: that Diddy has his eyeset on again. A lot of
• 36:28
  Speaker 7: court intrigue, a lot going on. We hope the dur
• 36:31
  Speaker 7: is okay, but for right now we are waiting and
• 36:34
  Speaker 7: bait it breath for what the judge decides on during
• 36:37
  Speaker 7: number seven and if Diddy's team was able to find
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  Speaker 7: a medical excuse to dismiss this third juror and pull
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  Speaker 7: in that alternate that Diddy has been making googly eyes at.
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  Speaker 5: Joining us now outside the Monahan Federal Courthouse, Lauren Colin,
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  Speaker 5: investigative reporter and start a pop crime TV on YouTube.
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  Speaker 2: Lauren, thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 5: Witness after witness, excruciating detail after excruciating detail, multiple.
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  Speaker 2: Motions for miss trial by the defense.
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  Speaker 1: What do you make of it?
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  Speaker 12: Yes?
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  Speaker 10: I think I speak for everyone here.
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  Speaker 9: We are very relieved to be moving on and having
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  Speaker 9: the defense start their case in chief. I think a
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  Speaker 9: lot of people are anxious for the witness list as well.
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  Speaker 9: We've already learned of a couple witnesses, and I believe
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  Speaker 9: the first witness will be a bad boy employee who
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  Speaker 9: is in charge of HR. The government has inferred numerous
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  Speaker 9: times that the bad boy HR department wasn't necessarily quote
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  Speaker 9: unquote real, that they just did more of Sean Colmes's bidding.
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  Speaker 9: So I guess we'll wait and see when when this
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  Speaker 9: person takes the stand and Nancy. There seems to be
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  Speaker 9: a lot going on behind the scenes as well. The
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  Speaker 9: judge has been not super happy with the defense and
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  Speaker 9: the government as inform has seemed to be leaked to
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  Speaker 9: the press.
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  Speaker 10: I mean, it's been never a dull moment.
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  Speaker 5: Garry, Philip Dubay. Everybody hates HR. I mean, is there
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  Speaker 5: anybody on the panel that likes HR human resources? When
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  Speaker 5: you see the Human Resources lady coming down the hall, everybody.
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  Speaker 2: Goes, oh, no, who did what wrong? Now somebody did
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  Speaker 2: so do Bay?
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  Speaker 10: I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: Calling HR as a star witness is that wise? And
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  Speaker 5: plus an HR witness from bad Boy records who's been
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  Speaker 5: authorizing they Let's see extortion payment.
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  Speaker 2: Correct me if I'm wrong.
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  Speaker 5: Lauren Conlin in Cidney summer the extortion payment to Cassie
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  Speaker 5: Ventura's mother where they want a twenty grand and the
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  Speaker 5: quid pro quo was not leaking orgy videos, freak off
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  Speaker 5: videos of their daughter who was just starting in her
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  Speaker 5: music career. That was through bad Boy records, all the
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  Speaker 5: casts that float through them, that the sex workers were
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  Speaker 5: paid with the buying their drugs buy bad Boy employees.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you're putting up a.
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  Speaker 5: Bad boy h R person that cross examination ouch, I mean,
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  Speaker 5: is that the way to kick a case off debate
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  Speaker 5: as one of your star witnesses.
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  Speaker 16: Of course, it is one of the best kept secrets
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  Speaker 16: about HR in every corporation, in every business throughout America
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  Speaker 16: is they're there to protect the company. They don't really
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  Speaker 16: care about employee interests. As a practical matter, they do
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  Speaker 16: damage control, risk management. They try to assess what if
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  Speaker 16: anything that's getting reported to them or what if anything
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  Speaker 16: they've observed could put the company at risk of liability.
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  Speaker 16: So they're not going to say or do anything that
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  Speaker 16: could harm the company because that's where their loyalty lies.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, you're still pretending that this is a company instead
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  Speaker 5: of Sean Combe's alt ego to doctor Bethany Marshall joining
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  Speaker 5: us renow, it's like the analysts out of the LA Jurisdiction,
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  Speaker 5: author of deal Breakers. You can see her on Peacock
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  Speaker 5: and find her at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. Why
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  Speaker 5: does everybody hate HR?
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  Speaker 3: You know, Nancy, most of my patients who come in
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  Speaker 3: with major depressive disorder or sudden psychiatric symptoms, often they've
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  Speaker 3: gotten into trouble with their companies and HR has come
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  Speaker 3: in and confronted them. And Philip Dubay is right. HR
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  Speaker 3: is always on the side of the company. Although, as
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  Speaker 3: you pointed out, what company right? So this is basically
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: HR doing pdd's bidding. But it's not a good idea.
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  Speaker 3: It's not a good look when you see HR coming
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  Speaker 3: down the hall, and also when you get in trouble
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  Speaker 3: with HR, everybody else knows about And whenever I submit
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  Speaker 3: insurance claims, my patient's first question is are they going
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: to find out about this in HR? They're terrified of HR?
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  Speaker 2: And you know what's so interesting, I don't know? Interesting
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: is the right world?
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  Speaker 5: Let me say sham Lynn Shaw joining me, founder executive
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  Speaker 5: director Lynn's Warriors, committed to ending sex trafficking and sex
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  Speaker 5: abuse of girls and Women's really the head of h
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: R in a sex trafficking case?
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  Speaker 2: Where was h R when all of this was happening.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, HR equals hell racket exactly, Nancy, where were they when,
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  Speaker 4: in my opinion, this is nothing more of this bad
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  Speaker 4: boy worldwide Entertainment production company with their names splattered all
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  Speaker 4: over this skyscraper down the street from me here in
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  Speaker 4: New York was doing all these things to these victims,
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  Speaker 4: alleged victims and these women. Where were they to step
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  Speaker 4: in and say, hey, you know, if this was even
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: a legitimate business, which I don't think it was at all,
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  Speaker 4: where you can't do this, dirty diddy, because this will
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: affect business, and I use that loosely business. You better
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: stop with these women, You better clean up your act.
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  Speaker 4: Nobody did anything. This is such a criminal enterprise. I
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  Speaker 4: can clearly see it. It is the playbook vulnerable people,
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: powerful people over less fortunate people. So this hell racket
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  Speaker 4: equals HR is a big zero. I bet you there
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  Speaker 4: was no office, no HR, no anything. He had one
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  Speaker 4: or two people that were there to protect dirty Ditty
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  Speaker 4: and the enterprise, the criminal enterprise, in my opinion, So
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: let's put the focus back on victims and survivors of
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: this dirty ditty and all victims and survivors of sexual exploitation.
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  Speaker 4: Where's the HR companies, for all of them, they.
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  Speaker 2: Do not exist.
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  Speaker 4: Dirty ditty done, going down that hell racket. No HR
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  Speaker 4: in that big building down the street.
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  Speaker 5: We are waiting as justice unfolds. Thank you to our guests,
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  Speaker 5: but especially you for being with us. Nancy Gray signing off,
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  Speaker 5: I'll see you tomorrow night, six and nine o'clock sharp
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  Speaker 5: Eastern end.
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  Speaker 2: Until then, good night friend.
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  Speaker 7: This is