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Seven Incredible Onboard UFO Encounters · UFOS & PARANORMAL WITH PRESTON DENNETT

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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, My name is Preston Dennett. Thank you for
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Speaker 1: joining me for another episode of UFOs and the Paranormal.
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Speaker 1: I truly appreciate it. Today I'm going to be talking
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Speaker 1: about my favorite aspect of ufology, and that is on
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Speaker 1: board encounters. And in fact, I call this one seven
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Speaker 1: incredible onboard UFO encounters. These are the cases that are
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Speaker 1: to me not only the most interesting, but have the
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Speaker 1: most information and certainly have the most potential to answer
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Speaker 1: all of the many questions surrounding UFO contact, such as
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Speaker 1: who are the ets, where do they come from, why
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Speaker 1: are they here? What is their agenda on this planet?
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Speaker 1: These cases provide a real deep insight into what it's
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Speaker 1: like to have ET contact. I've picked seven cases from
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Speaker 1: all over the world, including Argentina, Brazil, England, Russia, and
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Speaker 1: three from the United States including Montana, Missouri, and one
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Speaker 1: case that's actually a two parter taking place in both
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Speaker 1: Wisconsin and Illinois. These are cases that reach all the
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Speaker 1: way back to nineteen thirteen all the way up to
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Speaker 1: twenty eleven, so some old cases and some fairly recent
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Speaker 1: ones as well. And again, these cases have so much
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Speaker 1: information and I think they represent the cutting edge of
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Speaker 1: UFO research, we really dive deep into the heart of
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Speaker 1: the phenomenon. With cases like these, I think it's time
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Speaker 1: we take them seriously because there are so many of
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Speaker 1: them and there's so much we can learn from them.
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Speaker 1: So let's just get going, and I'll start with the
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Speaker 1: first case, which I call Peace Be with You. This
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Speaker 1: is the on board UFO encounter of J. L. Buick.
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Speaker 1: This is actually a multiple witness case. There are two witnesses.
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Speaker 1: The only one witness came forward. Took place in July
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Speaker 1: of nineteen thirteen in bad Lands, Montana. I like this
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Speaker 1: case because it is a very early case, predating the
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Speaker 1: modern age of UFOs, at a time when this subject
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Speaker 1: wasn't in the media really at all. The idea of
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Speaker 1: UFOs and extradustrial visitations was just beginning to appear at
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Speaker 1: this time. So that makes this a really important case,
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Speaker 1: and there's also some really interesting aspects to it that
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Speaker 1: I think are quite important. Kids comes from respected researcher
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Speaker 1: Donald Kehoe, who on September twenty four, nineteen fifty six,
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Speaker 1: received a letter from a mister J. L. Bulick, a prospector,
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Speaker 1: who described his encounter, which had occurred actually forty three
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Speaker 1: years earlier, way back in July of nineteen thirteen, And
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Speaker 1: according to this prospector, he was in the badlands area
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Speaker 1: of the state of Montana with another prospector when they
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Speaker 1: were both surprised by the appearance of a quote small
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Speaker 1: brown man who approached them and said the words peace
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Speaker 1: be with you, my friends. And looking beyond the little man,
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Speaker 1: these two prospectors saw a silver round craft, quite large,
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Speaker 1: about one hundred feet in diameter. It had a central
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Speaker 1: dome on top a conning tower, and it sat on
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Speaker 1: a patch of sand on the ground. Now around the
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Speaker 1: craft were several other little guys of the same appearance.
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Speaker 1: They were busy picking up samples of various flowers and
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Speaker 1: pebbles and things. A few appeared to be busy mining
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Speaker 1: a nearby rock outcropping. Now, this little man told the
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Speaker 1: prospectors that he and his companions were actually from another planet,
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Speaker 1: and that they had been secretly monitoring the Earth for
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Speaker 1: more than one hundred years. And per J. L. Buick,
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Speaker 1: this man told him that they had learned to speak
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Speaker 1: English by infiltrating a circus in the United States, where
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Speaker 1: they had worked for some time. After this short conversation,
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Speaker 1: the little man and the others returned to the craft,
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Speaker 1: which prompt it took off. But that's not the end
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Speaker 1: of this story, because the next day the craft returned,
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Speaker 1: and this time j. L and his friend were both
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Speaker 1: invited on board the craft by the little men and
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Speaker 1: he says given a tour of the interior and per
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Speaker 1: jl Buick, the interior of this craft contained five concentric saucers,
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Speaker 1: each with diminishing air pressure, while the outermost section was
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Speaker 1: actually a vacuum. Now, the ets said that rockets were
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Speaker 1: not a feasible method for travel, and instead they used
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Speaker 1: an electromagnetic drive, which allowed them to travel in excess
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Speaker 1: of nine thousand miles per hour. They said they were
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Speaker 1: able to produce artificial gravity inside the saucer and said
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Speaker 1: that quote, gravity is only a different type of magnetism. Unfortunately,
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Speaker 1: Donald Keyhole never published this case as far as I know,
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Speaker 1: he never even commented on the letter he received or
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Speaker 1: interviewed the witnesses. But nevertheless, it remains a very intriguing
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Speaker 1: early report which does match up in some ways with
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Speaker 1: modern day cases. Such an amazing case, it's a shame
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Speaker 1: Donald Keyjo didn't dive deeper into it interview the witness's
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Speaker 1: first hand write about it. Would have loved to have
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Speaker 1: talked to J. L. Buick, because I am sure there's
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Speaker 1: a lot more information than was shared in his very
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Speaker 1: brief letter to Donald Keyhoe. But certainly an interesting and
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Speaker 1: important case which I like because his description of how
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Speaker 1: this craft is powered using electromagnetics and this sort of
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Speaker 1: thing very much echoes modern day cases. So now let's
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Speaker 1: move to the next case, which is also super fascinating
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Speaker 1: and I think pretty well known in the country where
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Speaker 1: it took place, of Brazil. I call this case God
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Speaker 1: is only one, the onboard UFO encounter of Mario Restiere.
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Speaker 1: This took place on December fourth, nineteen forty nine, outside
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Speaker 1: of Rio desan Narrow, Brazil, and such a fascinating and
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Speaker 1: really extensive encounter with all kinds of information to it.
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Speaker 1: The witness in this case is Mario Restiere. He's a
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Speaker 1: twenty three year old man from Barra Mantsa, Brazil. It
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Speaker 1: was on five pm on December fourth, nineteen forty nine,
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Speaker 1: and Mario was returning to his home after visiting his
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Speaker 1: father's farm in the Volta Ridonda. Now both these locations
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Speaker 1: are near Rio desan Narrow and Brazil, and Mario had
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Speaker 1: just begun his journey home when he saw a large
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Speaker 1: saucer shaped craft hovering above a grove of trees along
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Speaker 1: the highway. He said it was quite large, forty five
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Speaker 1: to fifty feet wide, just under forty feet in height,
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Speaker 1: he estimated, and as he watched, it landed in perfect silence,
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Speaker 1: only about thirty to forty feet away from the road.
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Speaker 1: At the same time, Mario heard a telepathic voice in
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Speaker 1: his head, speaking in his native land of Portuguese, and
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Speaker 1: it said, don't be afraid. Do you want to know
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Speaker 1: what it is? We know that you trust and believe
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Speaker 1: in us. So Mario stopped his vehicle, got out and
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Speaker 1: began to approach the craft. Immediately, a door opened in
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Speaker 1: the side and two humanoid figures appeared. He described these
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Speaker 1: figures as having large bald heads, dark eyes, and they
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Speaker 1: were wearing a sort of Roman looking kilt and a
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Speaker 1: round cap or helmet. He said they were about his
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Speaker 1: height five and a half feet, and they beckoned to
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Speaker 1: him in a friendly way, seemed to invite him to enter.
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Speaker 1: And the first thing Mario did was ask them if
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Speaker 1: they believed in God, and they replied with the phrase
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Speaker 1: God is only one. So encouraged by their response, he
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Speaker 1: followed them and they led him into the craft. Now
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Speaker 1: one report on the case says he was at first
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Speaker 1: frightened and resisted going on board. In any event, he
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Speaker 1: was taken into the craft through a corridor to a
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Speaker 1: room that he said was filled with screens, luminous squares,
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Speaker 1: and buttons what looked like a globe in maps, he said.
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Speaker 1: The UFO occupants pushed some of these buttons, which caused
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Speaker 1: various diagrams to appear on the screens, which were apparently
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Speaker 1: monitors that showed the low locomotion and navigation of the craft.
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Speaker 1: These beings asked Mario if he would like to take
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Speaker 1: a journey with them, and Mario agreed on the condition
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Speaker 1: that he was brought back safely. The occupants agreed and
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Speaker 1: placed Mario, still fully clothed, in a kind of tank
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Speaker 1: or glass looking bathtub, which was filled with a strange liquid.
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Speaker 1: They told him it would protect him from the discomfort
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Speaker 1: of accelerations and would nourish his body. So he got
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Speaker 1: into the tank and they submerged him almost completely, with
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Speaker 1: the exception of his eyes and nose. At this point
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Speaker 1: Mario fell asleep or lost consciousness, and when he woke up,
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Speaker 1: he was told that they were just arriving. So they
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Speaker 1: pulled him from the tank and into the next room,
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Speaker 1: and Tomorrow's amazement, his clothes were immediately dry. Despite this,
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Speaker 1: they gave him an outfit to wear the same type
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Speaker 1: of clothing they had on, including shoes which Tomrio looked
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Speaker 1: almost like they had wires connected to a side belt. Now,
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Speaker 1: per Mario, the clothes were very comfortable against his body.
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Speaker 1: He then looked out of porthole and saw what appeared
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Speaker 1: to be a spaceport, a sort of hangar with various
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Speaker 1: saucer shaped craft very much like the one he was arriving.
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Speaker 1: He saw these craft arriving and departing, and looking around him,
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Speaker 1: he got a shock because he now saw that the
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Speaker 1: figures that had been in the room with him were
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Speaker 1: now seated on a kind of sofa, and their heads
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Speaker 1: and bodies were slumped forward, motionless, as if they were
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Speaker 1: dolls that had been switched off. But immediately a door
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Speaker 1: they opened and six human looking figures walked in. They
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Speaker 1: were smiling, wearing green colored outfits. He said they were friendly,
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Speaker 1: very kind, displayed a sense of humor, and spoke out
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Speaker 1: loud in a kind of musical sing song voice, saying
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Speaker 1: we are happy with your coming. We are at your disposal.
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Speaker 1: So they led Mario from the craft and began to
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Speaker 1: give him a tour of the area. Mario said he
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Speaker 1: was shown what appeared to be various factories and stores
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Speaker 1: and establishments. While he was at the factory, he was
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Speaker 1: given a kind of candied squash to eat. He was
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Speaker 1: also given a small, squarish piece of metal. He says
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Speaker 1: he saw men, women, and children. They all looked human
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Speaker 1: if they had no body hair, and all of them
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Speaker 1: were wearing a cap on their heads. He saw some
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Speaker 1: people apparently levitating or traveling through the air. He saw
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Speaker 1: what looked like vehicles traveling along suspended roads. He was
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Speaker 1: almost immediately then taken to an apparent museum of some kind,
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Speaker 1: into a room which was apparently devoted to knowledge of
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Speaker 1: the planet Earth. He says. The ets pushed various buttons
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Speaker 1: which projected images of Earth and the people on it,
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Speaker 1: which demonstrated the characters of humans, such as people's feelings
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Speaker 1: and ambitions, the level of violence and evolution that was
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Speaker 1: going on on our planet. Mario was told that thousands
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Speaker 1: of millions of years ago, the ET's planet and the
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Speaker 1: Earth's were much closer, but that a solar system wide
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Speaker 1: disaster had displaced Earth to another solar system, and they
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Speaker 1: said that their planet was in the constellation Orian, and
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Speaker 1: that in fact, Russian astronomers on Earth had already located it.
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Speaker 1: So Mario asked all kinds of questions, and the ets responded.
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Speaker 1: They explained to him that Einstein's theories were mostly correct
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Speaker 1: but needed minor adjustments. They said that the universe was finite,
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Speaker 1: that space was curved. They said space travel was accomplished
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Speaker 1: by using quote, the vital energy of the body. They
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Speaker 1: told him that people go through quote several vital cycles.
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Speaker 1: He believed they were explaining reincarnation, and they said that
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Speaker 1: their average life span was about three hundred years, largely
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Speaker 1: because they ate purified and clean food. Said it appeared
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Speaker 1: to him that there was a large transparent dome covering
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Speaker 1: the city he was in, but he did see blue sky.
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Speaker 1: After about eight hours, Mario began to feel homesick. He
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Speaker 1: wanted to go home, and as if on cue, as
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Speaker 1: if they were reading his mind, they told him, we
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Speaker 1: know that you are desirous of returning to your planet,
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Speaker 1: and the six men led him back on to another ship,
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Speaker 1: which was pretty much identical to the one he had
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Speaker 1: arrived in, and told him goodbye. He did notice with
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Speaker 1: some interest that none of them seemed to be leaders,
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Speaker 1: that everyone all worked in cooperation. So back in the craft,
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Speaker 1: he was taken to the tank full of liquid and
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Speaker 1: was again submerged. He fell asleep, and when he woke
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Speaker 1: up he stepped out. His clothes again were dry. He
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Speaker 1: took them off and put on his original earth clothes,
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Speaker 1: and then he was released from the craft, just a
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Speaker 1: kilometer or two from where he was first taken. So
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Speaker 1: he immediately went back to his father's farm and received
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Speaker 1: an incredible shock. In fact, his father scolded him for
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Speaker 1: having disappeared for so long without telling anyone where he was.
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Speaker 1: Mario believed that he could not have been gone for
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Speaker 1: more than a few days. He only really remembered about
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Speaker 1: eight hours, but he now discovered that it was now
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Speaker 1: April fourteenth, nineteen fifty. He had been missing for about
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Speaker 1: four months. So Mario told his incredulous father what happened.
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Speaker 1: His father was shocked somewhat skeptical, but Mario showed him
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Speaker 1: the piece of metal he had been given, which did
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Speaker 1: help convince his father of the veracity of his story.
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Speaker 1: They of course tested the metal, subjecting it to flames.
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Speaker 1: Couldn't melt it, could not break it. Despite all this,
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Speaker 1: Mario's father advised his son to keep the whole experience
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Speaker 1: a secret. Now Mario agreed, but he did learn that
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Speaker 1: there were numerous sightings in the area at the time
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Speaker 1: of his encounter, which helped provide some corroboration. There were
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Speaker 1: some interesting after effects too, because following this encounter, Mario
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Speaker 1: says he felt compelled to study general physics, nuclear physics, optics,
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Speaker 1: and electronics, all kinds of sciences in order to construct
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Speaker 1: a new engine based on the engine of the craft
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Speaker 1: he had seen inside this other craft. So eventually he
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Speaker 1: got a job in the iron and steel industry, and
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Speaker 1: one evening years later, in September nineteen fifty, he said
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Speaker 1: he had a second contact. He was driving when he
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Speaker 1: saw a craft and had a strong feeling to stop
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Speaker 1: and walk off the road, and he came upon this
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Speaker 1: landed craft. He saw one of these UFO occupants standing
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Speaker 1: outside of the craft who told in him and I
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Speaker 1: quote Mario, you are again in union with us with
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Speaker 1: respect to your project to build an engine. You can
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Speaker 1: go ahead with it. We will be watching. It will
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Speaker 1: never be used for the bad of the people of Earth.
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Speaker 1: So Mario asked the UFO occupant about this curious time
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Speaker 1: discrepancy of his last contact, and the ET told him
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Speaker 1: that this was an effect of quote space time contraction
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Speaker 1: and the synchronism of time. So Mario didn't fully understand this,
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Speaker 1: But following this experience, he did not tell anyone. He
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Speaker 1: didn't contact the press, but he later made contact, he says,
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Speaker 1: with a miss sharp from a foreign embassy who he
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Speaker 1: shared his experience with her, and she offered to give
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Speaker 1: him the facilities and finances to go ahead with the
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Speaker 1: building of his engine. But yeah, Mario did not go public,
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Speaker 1: and he would never have if he hadn't been contacted
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Speaker 1: by researcher doctor Walter Buehler, who heard about the case
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Speaker 1: through a family member of Mario's. So Mario agreed to
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Speaker 1: share his experience with doctor Bueller and told him that
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Speaker 1: the principle of the ET engine involved two atomic reactors
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Speaker 1: rotating around an axis, which would create two magnetic fields,
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Speaker 1: one vertical and one horizontal, and this would create a
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Speaker 1: field large enough to neutralize Earth's gravity. But he said
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Speaker 1: that they would also need a large battery to help
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Speaker 1: facilitate travel. Now, Mario believed that this engine could be
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Speaker 1: built in a matter of about four years, though there's
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Speaker 1: no indication that he ever started or completed it. Also,
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Speaker 1: doctor Walter Bueller says that he did not have the
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Speaker 1: opportunity to examine this alleged metal fragment. Nevertheless, doctor Bueller
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Speaker 1: did believe Mario's experiences and said, and I quote Senior
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Speaker 1: Mario impressed us favorably as a stable and sincere man,
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Speaker 1: But we cannot judge the technical aspects involved, as we
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Speaker 1: have not seen or examined the interplanetary artifact that he
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Speaker 1: says he brought back from his trip. Mario himself says
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Speaker 1: his experiences were entirely benevolent, and given the opportunity, he
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Speaker 1: would go back with the ets as quote, there is
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Speaker 1: so much to learn with them and about them. Such
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Speaker 1: an amazing case, very well investigated. It's a shame that
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Speaker 1: piece of metal alleged piece of metal was never publicly revealed.
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Speaker 1: I wonder where it is now. I also find it
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Speaker 1: interesting that Mario says he was given instructions on how
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Speaker 1: to build a sort of UFO motor because this does
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Speaker 1: turn up in a number of cases. Also a shame
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Speaker 1: that this apparently never came to fruition. But absolutely a
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Speaker 1: fascinating case and one that deserves to be very well known.
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Speaker 1: Now let's move to the next one, which is really unusual.
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Speaker 1: I had not heard of this case. I call this
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Speaker 1: case a strange occurrence. The onboard UFO encounter of Commander
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Speaker 1: Horatio R. Penrose. This took place on May thirteenth, nineteen
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Speaker 1: fifty four, near Derby, England. This turned out to be
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Speaker 1: a pretty big year for UFO encounters, predating the amazing
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Speaker 1: French UFO wave of late nineteen fifty four. Well, yeah,
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Speaker 1: this case has some really interesting aspects to it. The
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Speaker 1: sole witness in this case is Commander Horatio Penrose, who
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Speaker 1: at the time of his encounter lived at seventeen Lonsdale
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Speaker 1: Road in Birmingham, UK. His onboard encounter was surrounded by
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Speaker 1: a series of unusual events. In fact, at eight pm
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Speaker 1: on May twelve, nineteen fifty four, the day before his encounter,
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Speaker 1: Commander Penrose went to visit a pub in Derbyshire, and
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Speaker 1: while he was there he engaged in conversation with another
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Speaker 1: gentleman and at some point began to talk about his car,
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Speaker 1: a one year old black Vauxhall Wivern saloon. Now, this
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Speaker 1: man wanted to purchase Horatio's vehicle and made a very
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Speaker 1: generous offer, but Horatio was undecided. He wanted to think
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Speaker 1: it over for a day and agreed to meet the
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Speaker 1: man at the same pub the following evening. The gentleman agreed,
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Speaker 1: and the next evening they did. They met at the pub,
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Speaker 1: and the gentleman then invited Commander Penrose over to his
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Speaker 1: house for tea, where he met the gentleman's wife. They
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Speaker 1: had tea. According to Horatio, this seemed to be an
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Speaker 1: ordinary English couple, though smaller than average. But after chatting,
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Speaker 1: Horatio decided that he would not sell his vehicle, and
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Speaker 1: he told his hosts so, and he left their house
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Speaker 1: around ten thirty p m. Against is May thirteenth, nineteen
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Speaker 1: fifty four, and he was driving along the Derby Burton
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Speaker 1: Road in the direction of Birmingham, and as he did so,
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Speaker 1: suddenly he noticed a bright, unidentified light ahead of him
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Speaker 1: on the highway, and in fact, as soon as he
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Speaker 1: saw it, it appeared to be heading directly towards him,
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Speaker 1: and as Horatio says, as it reached my position, I
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Speaker 1: experienced what seemed to be a crash. Now was thrown
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Speaker 1: forward against the windscreen. Then the car seemed to be
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Speaker 1: lifted from the ground. Now was moving through the air
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Speaker 1: with a bright light above me. The next thing I
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Speaker 1: remembered was when I had recovered consciousness in the Derbyshire
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Speaker 1: Royal Infirmary, where I had stitches in and a cut
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Speaker 1: in my forehead. So there were some other injuries on
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Speaker 1: his head which are actually sufficient to keep Horatio in
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Speaker 1: the hospital for quote some months. Now. At first, Horatio
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Speaker 1: did report some amnesia of this incident, but there were
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Speaker 1: some other very strange details. Doctors and police were puzzled
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Speaker 1: not only by Horatio's description of this apparent bright light
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Speaker 1: coming towards him, but because the interior of the car
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Speaker 1: contained an abnormally large amount of blood, far and more
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Speaker 1: than would have been expected from the injuries sustained by Horatio.
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Speaker 1: So the police and doctors asked him if there possibly
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Speaker 1: could have been more than one person in the car,
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Speaker 1: but Horatio vehemently denied this. He was alone in the
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Speaker 1: car and was following the accident that he began to
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Speaker 1: have recall of a strange event which occurred immediately after
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Speaker 1: the accident had apparently happened, As Horatio says, I remembered
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Speaker 1: a strange occurrence which must have taken place immediately after
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Speaker 1: my crash. At the moment the car was perched on
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Speaker 1: some iron railings, I recollect being lifted from it by
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Speaker 1: a man in a one piece suit. He seemed to
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Speaker 1: lift me effortlessly into an entrance on the underside of
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Speaker 1: a large round vehicle which was hovering above us and
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Speaker 1: giving out a bright light. So the next thing Horatio
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Speaker 1: knew he was inside a small room. He saw strange controls.
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Speaker 1: In it. He saw other figures, also dressed in one
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Speaker 1: piece suits, both male and female, and they were operating
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Speaker 1: these strange controls. He says they appeared to be human looking,
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Speaker 1: had short hair. Horatio does remember that they were asking
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Speaker 1: him questions about his experience in the Navy working with radar.
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Speaker 1: He believes that they were speaking to him telepathically, not audibly.
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Speaker 1: The last thing he remembered before waking up in the
23:00
Speaker 1: hospital was one of the beings coming up to him
23:03
Speaker 1: and injecting his arm with some sort of green fluid. Now,
23:08
Speaker 1: during his own investigation of the incident, he returned to
23:12
Speaker 1: the scene of the alleged accident, hoping to find some
23:15
Speaker 1: other witnesses, and he did. He found a railway signalman
23:20
Speaker 1: who said that at the time of Horatio's accident, he
23:23
Speaker 1: had in fact seen a car, presumably Horatios, with an
23:27
Speaker 1: extremely bright light above it, go past his signal box
23:32
Speaker 1: at about the same level. What I like about that
23:35
Speaker 1: case is we have a very reputable, credible witness who
23:41
Speaker 1: really had no interest in publicity. It's also undeniable that
23:46
Speaker 1: something really unusual happened, and the evidence surrounding this case
23:51
Speaker 1: is pretty clear that this was an unusual event of
23:54
Speaker 1: some kind. So that alone makes it a really important case.
23:59
Speaker 1: Now let's move to the next which I call these
24:02
Speaker 1: were Not Earth People. This is another fairly early case
24:07
Speaker 1: because this time, again on board UFO encounters had not
24:11
Speaker 1: really become a big part of our culture, certainly not
24:14
Speaker 1: like they are today. I call this one these were
24:18
Speaker 1: Not Earth People, the onboard encounters of Mimi Gorzel. This
24:23
Speaker 1: took place on May thirtieth, nineteen sixty five, at Mason Lake, Wisconsin,
24:28
Speaker 1: and there's a sequel to it, which took place a
24:31
Speaker 1: few months later on September third, nineteen sixty five in Displain's, Illinois.
24:37
Speaker 1: This is largely a single witness case, so apparently there
24:40
Speaker 1: were other people involved who have not come forward. But
24:44
Speaker 1: it's a very unusual case, though in many ways it
24:48
Speaker 1: does echo a lot of the cases we do see today.
24:51
Speaker 1: This very interesting, complex and unusual case comes from researcher
24:56
Speaker 1: Fred Merritt of the Center for UFO Studies q POS,
25:01
Speaker 1: and it involves two main incidents. The first occurred at
25:05
Speaker 1: two pm on the afternoon of May thirty, nineteen sixty five.
25:10
Speaker 1: As the main witness Mimi Gorzelle. She was forty five
25:14
Speaker 1: years old at the time. She was sunbathing on the
25:16
Speaker 1: roof of her lakeside cottage, which was located by Mason
25:20
Speaker 1: Lake in Marquette County, Wisconsin. This is an eight hundred
25:24
Speaker 1: and eighty two acre lake with a maximum depth of
25:29
Speaker 1: about nine feet, and this is when she suddenly noticed
25:33
Speaker 1: a shiny, metallic disc shaped object approaching iron a bee
25:37
Speaker 1: line from over the lake. And as it approached, she
25:41
Speaker 1: saw that it was quite large and estimated forty feet wide,
25:45
Speaker 1: at a dome on top a row of portholes around
25:48
Speaker 1: the middle, and this craft was hovering in perfect silence.
25:52
Speaker 1: She said, it looked like the central disk seemed to
25:55
Speaker 1: be rotating, although the rest of it was stationary. And
25:58
Speaker 1: as Mimi says, it came into view so swiftly I
26:02
Speaker 1: could do nothing but stare at it. This object came
26:06
Speaker 1: right up to her cottage, less than two hundred feet away,
26:09
Speaker 1: she estimates, and she watched in amazement as a sort
26:13
Speaker 1: of tripod landing gear seemed to emerge from the bottom
26:17
Speaker 1: of the craft, and it looked to her like it
26:19
Speaker 1: was about to land right next to her cottage. She
26:22
Speaker 1: was in fact now standing above the craft, looking down
26:26
Speaker 1: on it, and this is when she noticed something very interesting.
26:30
Speaker 1: A figure appeared in one of the windows, and it
26:34
Speaker 1: beckoned to another figure inside the craft, and a second
26:37
Speaker 1: figure appeared next to an adjacent window her Mimi. Both
26:42
Speaker 1: these figures were quite short, They had large bald heads,
26:46
Speaker 1: a small nose, just a slit for a mouth, and
26:49
Speaker 1: they stared directly at her for what seemed to her
26:52
Speaker 1: to be a pretty long time, and she says, they
26:56
Speaker 1: seemed to be talking to each other and to me too.
27:00
Speaker 1: I wondered what they were saying, and even wished they
27:02
Speaker 1: would land, but they did not. I really wanted to
27:05
Speaker 1: go talk with them. We stared at one another for
27:08
Speaker 1: a good fifteen minutes, although they also looked all around
27:11
Speaker 1: the area. Now, the next thing Mimi knew without warning,
27:16
Speaker 1: this object was racing away. She watched it fly off
27:20
Speaker 1: rapidly in the direction of the setting sun, and this
27:23
Speaker 1: surprised her because it was two pm when she saw
27:26
Speaker 1: this thing, and looking at the clockets now almost six pm,
27:30
Speaker 1: she was missing approximately four hours of time. Now. She
27:34
Speaker 1: wanted to go downstairs and tell her family, but she
27:37
Speaker 1: was embarrassed and as she says, it was my secret
27:41
Speaker 1: and I felt too foolish to tell anyone of it. However,
27:46
Speaker 1: following this experience, Mimi began to meditate. She essentially put
27:51
Speaker 1: herself under self hypnosis, she says, and she was able
27:54
Speaker 1: to remember some of what happened during this missing time.
27:58
Speaker 1: She remembered coming down from the roof of her cottage
28:01
Speaker 1: and walking up to this landed craft. She said the
28:04
Speaker 1: two short occupants were each about four feet tall, actually
28:08
Speaker 1: led her up into the craft via a sort of stairway.
28:13
Speaker 1: Inside the craft, she said, one of the beings was
28:15
Speaker 1: holding a small box. He opened it in front of her,
28:19
Speaker 1: and inside was what looked like a dark colored crystal.
28:23
Speaker 1: She said it seemed to give off a kind of
28:25
Speaker 1: vapor or smoke, and one of these little guys held
28:28
Speaker 1: it up to Mimi's face. This alarmed her. She jumped back,
28:33
Speaker 1: but the occupant then passed this object in front of
28:35
Speaker 1: her face again, and Mimi said she could not detect
28:38
Speaker 1: any odors or fumes from this sort of mist or
28:41
Speaker 1: smoke coming off of it, and the next thing she
28:44
Speaker 1: remembers was being back on her roof watching this craft depart.
28:49
Speaker 1: Following this incident, she did suffer from some headaches, but
28:52
Speaker 1: that was it. She ended up writing a letter about
28:55
Speaker 1: her experience in the November nineteen seventy two issue of
28:59
Speaker 1: Fate magazine, which of course led her to being interviewed
29:02
Speaker 1: by Fred Merritt. That's not the end of her encounter,
29:06
Speaker 1: because it was just three months later when she had
29:09
Speaker 1: a follow up experience that was even more strange. She
29:13
Speaker 1: had gone to bed for the evening like normal, but
29:16
Speaker 1: suddenly woke up to find that she was driving down
29:19
Speaker 1: a rural asphalt road, apparently near her home in Desplain's, Illinois.
29:25
Speaker 1: As Mimi says, I came to the realization in the
29:28
Speaker 1: middle of the night and found myself driving on a
29:31
Speaker 1: very dark and lonely road. Looking around me, I tried
29:34
Speaker 1: to remember how I got here and where I was going.
29:38
Speaker 1: I just did not know, so, as you can imagine,
29:42
Speaker 1: she was confused and at a loss, and she was
29:45
Speaker 1: quite relieved to see a light on the road ahead
29:47
Speaker 1: of her. It looked to her like someone was holding
29:50
Speaker 1: a lantern and swinging it back and forth, trying to
29:53
Speaker 1: get her to stop, so she did. She got out
29:55
Speaker 1: of the car, and this is when she saw three
29:57
Speaker 1: other cars pulled over. A man got out of the
30:01
Speaker 1: car in front of her, so Mimi at this point
30:04
Speaker 1: assumed there must be some kind of accident. But at
30:07
Speaker 1: this point another man approached her, and he was unusual
30:11
Speaker 1: because he was wearing a white jumpsuit, much like an
30:14
Speaker 1: orderly from the hospital, she said, And he smiled at
30:18
Speaker 1: her and led her across the street into a field
30:22
Speaker 1: right by the road, up to a brightly lit object,
30:26
Speaker 1: and to her amazement, it was a quote spaceship, and
30:31
Speaker 1: she now realized that the passengers from the other cars
30:33
Speaker 1: were also being led into it via a kind of
30:37
Speaker 1: staircase with about fourteen steps. As Mimi says, I was
30:42
Speaker 1: amazed and frightened. No one seemed to say a word,
30:46
Speaker 1: was so quiet. The man escorting me smiled and urged
30:50
Speaker 1: me to go forward, assuring me of my safety. So
30:54
Speaker 1: she wanted to ask all kinds of questions. She wondered
30:57
Speaker 1: what the other people were thinking, but she just fell
31:00
Speaker 1: like she couldn't resist, and once inside, she saw what
31:04
Speaker 1: looked like shiny, metallic cabinets. Some were very plain, others
31:09
Speaker 1: looked like they had controls or gauges on top. And
31:12
Speaker 1: looking at the men in the white jumpsuits, she saw
31:15
Speaker 1: that they all looked very much alike. All of them
31:19
Speaker 1: were well over six feet tall. They all had high domed,
31:22
Speaker 1: bald heads, and looked quite young, she estimates about thirty
31:26
Speaker 1: years old. At one point, she believed she heard them
31:29
Speaker 1: speaking in an unfamiliar language, and, as Mimi says, by
31:34
Speaker 1: now I assumed these were not earth people, and that
31:38
Speaker 1: I may have been brought here with the other three
31:40
Speaker 1: gentlemen through some hypnotic means. Now she was more curious
31:45
Speaker 1: than afraid. She wanted to ask questions, but again found
31:49
Speaker 1: herself unable to do so. All she could do is watch.
31:53
Speaker 1: She's had her mind raised as she tried to figure
31:55
Speaker 1: out what was going on. At some point, she seemed
31:59
Speaker 1: to have a lapse in her memory, because the next
32:01
Speaker 1: thing she knew, one of the men was approaching her
32:04
Speaker 1: and told her, quote, you will have no memory of
32:08
Speaker 1: anything you saw or experienced here. You will awaken with
32:11
Speaker 1: no memory of this experience. Now, she and the other
32:16
Speaker 1: gentlemen were led back to their cars, and one by
32:19
Speaker 1: one they drove off. She was the last to leave.
32:22
Speaker 1: She found that suddenly her car lights were going on,
32:25
Speaker 1: and that she was driving down the dark road, and
32:28
Speaker 1: as she says, quote, once again, I did not know
32:32
Speaker 1: where I was or how I got there, So I
32:34
Speaker 1: just drove, hoping to come to an intersection to give
32:37
Speaker 1: me bearings. And the next thing she knew, it was morning,
32:41
Speaker 1: and she was waking up remembering the above events. So
32:46
Speaker 1: she did not forget this, and as time passed, in fact,
32:51
Speaker 1: me began to recall more of what happened. She recalled
32:54
Speaker 1: that one of the quote spacemen used this weird instrument
32:58
Speaker 1: which she likened to a step the scope, but it
33:00
Speaker 1: was not a stethoscope, was quite small, it looked kind
33:04
Speaker 1: of transparent, was made of three sections. She could see
33:08
Speaker 1: what looked like filaments inside of it, and he used
33:11
Speaker 1: it to examine her. That's what her impression was. He
33:15
Speaker 1: held it to her head, her neck, her throat, her heart,
33:18
Speaker 1: her solar plexus, what she believed were her psychic centers.
33:22
Speaker 1: She didn't remember vividly that this instrument was cold enough
33:26
Speaker 1: that when it touched her throat it caused her to WinCE.
33:29
Speaker 1: But as Mimi says, I had the feeling that the
33:32
Speaker 1: spaceman was putting these thoughts into my head like a
33:36
Speaker 1: doctor might talk during an operation. And again she had
33:39
Speaker 1: the impression they were testing her somehow. She does also
33:43
Speaker 1: recall that at some point she was given what seemed
33:47
Speaker 1: to her to be a kind of remote viewing exercise,
33:51
Speaker 1: a psychic testing, where she was asked to communicate the
33:55
Speaker 1: contents of four envelopes, which she did. Now, according to me,
34:00
Speaker 1: the first one held a kind of thesis about war
34:03
Speaker 1: and peace, the second one containing image of a boat,
34:08
Speaker 1: she said, the third one with some sort of mathematical
34:10
Speaker 1: equation which did not make sense to her. She could
34:14
Speaker 1: not decipher it, And she said she easily saw the
34:17
Speaker 1: contents of the fourth one as well, which contained various
34:21
Speaker 1: seeds of corn, barley, oats, and rice. Now, per Mimi.
34:26
Speaker 1: She has had quite a few psychic experiences, including premonitions
34:31
Speaker 1: and out of body experiences, which certainly matches up with
34:35
Speaker 1: the reports of a lot of other contactees. It's such
34:38
Speaker 1: an amazing case. I'm really fascinated by the psychic aspects
34:42
Speaker 1: of this case because as we see a lot of
34:46
Speaker 1: contact tees, I'm going to say most of them exhibit
34:49
Speaker 1: a wide variety of paranormal phenomena and psychic abilities, and
34:54
Speaker 1: that's certainly true of the witness in this case, Mimi Gourzel.
34:58
Speaker 1: I think it's an important and legitimate case. Now let's
35:01
Speaker 1: move to the next one. This one is really extensive.
35:05
Speaker 1: This one did get a lot of publicity, but unfortunately
35:09
Speaker 1: the publicity and the articles written about it were largely inaccurate.
35:12
Speaker 1: It's one of the reasons I really wanted to cover
35:14
Speaker 1: this case, which I call I didn't even know what
35:18
Speaker 1: a UFO was. The onboard UFO encounter of Carlos Alberto Diaz.
35:24
Speaker 1: This took place on January five, nineteen seventy five, in
35:29
Speaker 1: Puerto Engineero White. This is in Argentina, outside of Bahia Blanca.
35:36
Speaker 1: Don't confuse this with another case involving a gentleman of
35:39
Speaker 1: the same name. It is a different Carlos Diaz. But
35:47
Speaker 1: this case, yeah, is so unusual. I think it's a
35:51
Speaker 1: really important case because this was actually someone who was
35:55
Speaker 1: taken on board in full view of two witnesses and
35:59
Speaker 1: most of the council in this case do not report
36:01
Speaker 1: that the reporting on this was largely inaccurate until the
36:04
Speaker 1: witness came forward to correct a lot of the inaccuracies
36:08
Speaker 1: surrounding his case. The main witness in this case is
36:12
Speaker 1: Carlos Alberto Diez. He worked as a railway worker, but
36:16
Speaker 1: did take a number of odd jobs and again this
36:19
Speaker 1: case got a lot of attention in press coverage, but
36:22
Speaker 1: quite a few of the articles in the reporting on
36:24
Speaker 1: this case contained in accuracies which are still being circulated
36:31
Speaker 1: even years later now. It was on the evening of
36:35
Speaker 1: January fourth, nineteen seventy five, that Carlos was leaving his
36:40
Speaker 1: night job as a waiter in a restaurant. He had
36:43
Speaker 1: just helped with a wedding, and it was now after
36:47
Speaker 1: midnight January five. He decided to buy a newspaper and
36:51
Speaker 1: at three point thirty am boarded a bus at the
36:54
Speaker 1: intersection of Colonne and Estomba Avenues. Which you can see here,
37:00
Speaker 1: got on the bus and got ready to go home.
37:03
Speaker 1: The bus arrived around three point fifty and he got
37:07
Speaker 1: off the bus where he met his two friends and
37:09
Speaker 1: Trega and Miguel, who had also just gotten off work
37:12
Speaker 1: at another area, and all three were walking home together
37:17
Speaker 1: to a large desolate railway yard towards Daniel D. Solier
37:22
Speaker 1: Street where Carlos lived. You can see that area here,
37:26
Speaker 1: and this is when they all three saw a very
37:29
Speaker 1: bright beam of light flashed down, dazzling all three men.
37:33
Speaker 1: They thought for a second it might be lightning, but
37:36
Speaker 1: it didn't look like lightning. It was a hazery. The
37:40
Speaker 1: day was overcast, but this flash of light made no sound,
37:45
Speaker 1: There was no thunder. It did not appear to be lightning,
37:48
Speaker 1: and Carlos was only a short distance from his home
37:52
Speaker 1: when suddenly this white glowing object approached very quickly. Carlos
37:57
Speaker 1: didn't see it clearly, but his two friends thought momentary
38:00
Speaker 1: it was a plane, but suddenly it raced at high
38:03
Speaker 1: speed directly overhead. At this point, Carlos became immobilized. He
38:07
Speaker 1: could not move. He said, a loud, humming noise enveloped him.
38:12
Speaker 1: His friends did not feel this. They did not become immobilized.
38:15
Speaker 1: It was just Carlos. He was fully conscious when, without warning,
38:20
Speaker 1: he felt himself being drawn upwards into the sky. He
38:24
Speaker 1: reached about ten feet into the air, and this is
38:26
Speaker 1: when he blacked out. Now his friends watched this happen
38:30
Speaker 1: and watched him get pulled up into this glowing object,
38:33
Speaker 1: which darted off. They were an absolute shock and disbelief
38:37
Speaker 1: and immediately ran to Carlos's home and woke up his wife,
38:41
Speaker 1: shouting hysterically to her, Mirta, Mirta, Carlitos was taken by
38:46
Speaker 1: a flying saucer. So meanwhile, Carlos woke up and found
38:52
Speaker 1: himself inside the sort of round shaped room. The walls,
38:56
Speaker 1: he said, were curved and glowing. It looked to him
38:59
Speaker 1: kind of like semi transparent plastic. It was very small,
39:03
Speaker 1: no more than ten feet wide. There was nothing in there,
39:06
Speaker 1: no furnishings, no equipment, nothing about these kind of glowing walls.
39:11
Speaker 1: He did see a few holes through which he could
39:13
Speaker 1: feel air rushing in. He was half kneeling, half crouched.
39:18
Speaker 1: He's quite disoriented. He tried to get up and move around,
39:22
Speaker 1: but he found that any movement caused him to feel
39:24
Speaker 1: faint and nauseous, so he basically remained in the spot,
39:28
Speaker 1: trying to orient himself. He did notice his shirt was missing,
39:32
Speaker 1: but as Carlos says, I was desperate. I was screaming.
39:36
Speaker 1: I didn't even know what a UFO was. I felt nervous, afraid.
39:40
Speaker 1: I wanted to cry. It was almost immediately that three
39:45
Speaker 1: humanoid figures either entered or seemed to materialize. He's really
39:48
Speaker 1: not sure, but he could instantly see that they were
39:52
Speaker 1: not human. He had a kind of greenish color, very
39:55
Speaker 1: small heads, no visible facial features that he could see.
40:00
Speaker 1: He said. They were about five and a half feet tall,
40:02
Speaker 1: with very slim, slender bodies. They seemed to be clothed
40:06
Speaker 1: or covered in some sort of a soft cream colored,
40:09
Speaker 1: smooth rubbery outfit. They did have arms and legs, but
40:14
Speaker 1: Carlos couldn't see any hands on them. It looked almost
40:17
Speaker 1: like they ended in stumps. They did not bend, so
40:20
Speaker 1: perhaps these were robotic figures, but as Carlos said, they
40:25
Speaker 1: did not lean on each other to walk. They levitated. Now,
40:29
Speaker 1: to his dismay, these beings began to remove large clumps
40:33
Speaker 1: of hair from his head. Carlos fought and resisted, and
40:37
Speaker 1: he saw now that there were what looked like sucker
40:39
Speaker 1: like protuberances on their arms, which they were apparently using
40:43
Speaker 1: to obtain hair samples from him, and they seemed to
40:47
Speaker 1: be quite excited about it, as they would jump up
40:49
Speaker 1: and down after they got a sample, waving their arms.
40:52
Speaker 1: He says. They moved slowly but were exceedingly strong, such
40:56
Speaker 1: that Carlos was unable to stop them as they took
40:59
Speaker 1: samples from his chin hair as well. Now he felt
41:02
Speaker 1: no pain whatsoever during this time, and as Carlos says,
41:07
Speaker 1: the body of the creature seemed spongy. Every time I
41:10
Speaker 1: touched them, my hair fell out and stuck to them.
41:14
Speaker 1: So mind you, he's in a bit of a panic
41:16
Speaker 1: now he's not observing super clearly. And after several moments
41:20
Speaker 1: of this, Carlo says, his vision faded and he felt
41:23
Speaker 1: himself losing consciousness, and the next thing he knows, he's
41:27
Speaker 1: waking up in a grassy area with sunlight shining down
41:30
Speaker 1: on him. He's not sure where he is, but it's
41:33
Speaker 1: nowhere near his home. He looks at his watch. He
41:37
Speaker 1: could see that it stopped at three point fifty am.
41:40
Speaker 1: His bag containing his work clothes and the newspaper he
41:43
Speaker 1: had bought was lying next to him. He stood up.
41:47
Speaker 1: He was nauseous, he vomited a few times, and as
41:52
Speaker 1: it turns out, a man drove by and saw him.
41:55
Speaker 1: According to the first press accounts, this is not actually
41:59
Speaker 1: what happened. According to Carlos, he was actually in somebody's
42:01
Speaker 1: backyard and this person's dogs were surrounding him, but not
42:06
Speaker 1: getting too close. And this person came out and saw Carlos,
42:10
Speaker 1: saw his disheveled condition, and took him to the police,
42:15
Speaker 1: who took him to a hospital, and he was eventually
42:18
Speaker 1: transferred to the Ferrovia Hospital in Buenos Aires. So Carlos
42:27
Speaker 1: now learned that he was quite distant from where he
42:30
Speaker 1: was taken, well over seven hundred kilometers over four hundred
42:35
Speaker 1: miles from where this craft had first appeared. His wife
42:39
Speaker 1: and wife and family were called and they, as you
42:44
Speaker 1: can imagine, were frantic with worry. Carlos had been missing
42:48
Speaker 1: all night. So they drove to the hospital, and Carlos
42:52
Speaker 1: said he would have remain in this hospital for seventeen
42:55
Speaker 1: days or longer, not four days as was reported in
42:59
Speaker 1: most press accounts. Now at the hospital and afterwards Carlos
43:03
Speaker 1: was interviewed, interrogated, and examined at length by doctors, psychiatrists, psychoanalysts, UFO, researchers, police.
43:14
Speaker 1: At least forty six different specialists examined and interviewed Carlos.
43:21
Speaker 1: It was interesting because a few of the doctors said
43:24
Speaker 1: that as they reached out to touch Carlos, they got
43:26
Speaker 1: a kind of electric shock from his body. Now, Carlos
43:31
Speaker 1: did his best to shun publicity. He refused most interviews.
43:35
Speaker 1: He wanted no attention, and this is what led to
43:38
Speaker 1: the many inaccuracies in the reporting of his case, the
43:42
Speaker 1: main one being that he was alone when he was taken,
43:45
Speaker 1: which he was not. His two friends saw this happen.
43:49
Speaker 1: Researcher Pedro Ramoniac interviewed him personally and said that Carlos
43:54
Speaker 1: was quote a nice, quiet young man, very modest, honest
43:59
Speaker 1: and sincere. He verified that Carlos's hair had been cut
44:03
Speaker 1: in some areas and looked like it was pulled out
44:06
Speaker 1: down to the roots in others, but there was no
44:09
Speaker 1: damage whatsoever to the skin. This was something that baffled
44:12
Speaker 1: the doctors. He does have medical reports verifying this. Now,
44:17
Speaker 1: his case did cause some controversy and there were some
44:21
Speaker 1: detractors because later researchers Roberto Enrique Banks and Richard W. Hyden,
44:28
Speaker 1: without actually interviewing Carlos at all and learning the full
44:32
Speaker 1: details of his case, wrote an article titled Carlos Alberto
44:37
Speaker 1: Diez was a Hoaxer, and they based their conclusions that
44:41
Speaker 1: the site of where he was taken was always busy
44:46
Speaker 1: and that nobody saw him being returned either. Turns out no,
44:50
Speaker 1: the street where he was taken was not that busy,
44:54
Speaker 1: and again this was three am four am. They also
44:59
Speaker 1: said at the bus left Bahia Blanca at three point
45:03
Speaker 1: thirty and that Carlos was taken at three thirty, so
45:07
Speaker 1: the timing is incorrect. Well, actually Carlos did get on
45:10
Speaker 1: the bus at three thirty, but he was taken at
45:12
Speaker 1: three point fifty, so this doesn't pen out either. They
45:15
Speaker 1: accused him actually of taking a train to Buenos Aires,
45:19
Speaker 1: without any real reason for this. They then attacked his character,
45:23
Speaker 1: apparently disregarding the fact that researcher Pedro Ramoniac found him
45:28
Speaker 1: to be an honest and sincere man and that some
45:30
Speaker 1: forty three other professionals were absolutely convinced of the veracity
45:35
Speaker 1: of his case. So I think it's fair to say
45:38
Speaker 1: that this accusation of a hoax doesn't stand up under scrutiny,
45:42
Speaker 1: and in fact, more recently, researcher Rubin Rombola tracked down
45:47
Speaker 1: Carlos and confirmed the story, and he says, and I quote,
45:51
Speaker 1: my conclusion is that the event was real without a doubt,
45:55
Speaker 1: with the people who were around Carlos being the best
45:58
Speaker 1: evidence and proof of the incident. Carlos himself has stuck
46:03
Speaker 1: to his story, as he says, I've been telling what
46:07
Speaker 1: happened for forty eight years, and I've never changed my version.
46:11
Speaker 1: I remember everything. I took it as a disgrace at
46:14
Speaker 1: the time, so yeah, he didn't want any publicity, and
46:19
Speaker 1: in fact, following the encounter in his return home, he
46:23
Speaker 1: suffered tremendous ridicule and was essentially ostracized by his neighbors
46:28
Speaker 1: and friends and constantly bothered by reporters, to the point
46:33
Speaker 1: that it caused the breakup of his family. He and
46:35
Speaker 1: his wife became separated. Today, Carlos is now in his
46:39
Speaker 1: late seventies and as he says, since this happened to me,
46:43
Speaker 1: I have never gotten sick again, not a cold. I
46:48
Speaker 1: would not like to see them again they didn't hurt me,
46:51
Speaker 1: but I just want to continue with my normal life.
46:55
Speaker 1: So yeah, apparently he got a huge health upgrade, which
46:58
Speaker 1: is something that does turn up in a number of cases.
47:01
Speaker 1: Really amazing case. Kudos to Carlos Alberto Diez for coming forward.
47:07
Speaker 1: He didn't want to. He never sought any publicity, never
47:10
Speaker 1: received any money for his case. It really upturned his
47:14
Speaker 1: life in a number of ways. It was a very
47:18
Speaker 1: difficult experience for him, though ultimately he says it wasn't
47:21
Speaker 1: a negative experience and as we have seen, he did
47:24
Speaker 1: benefit in some really remarkable ways in terms of his health.
47:28
Speaker 1: So an important case, no doubt. And now we moved
47:32
Speaker 1: to the next case, which I call taken from the backyard.
47:38
Speaker 1: This is the onboard UFO encounter of Vladimir Karatonov. This
47:44
Speaker 1: one took place on January fifteenth, nineteen seventy eight, near Piscav, Russia,
47:50
Speaker 1: and it's a fascinating encounter of a gentleman who meant
47:54
Speaker 1: human looking ets and was taken on board. This very
47:58
Speaker 1: unusual case comes from russ researcher Solomon Schulman and was
48:02
Speaker 1: published in his book Extraterrestrials over Russia. Stunning facts and
48:07
Speaker 1: new hypotheses. It was about eight pm January fifteenth, nineteen
48:12
Speaker 1: seventy eight, and the witness, a student by the name
48:15
Speaker 1: of Vladimir Sergovich Karatanov, was visiting his parents near their
48:21
Speaker 1: home in Paskov, Russia. It was about eight pm, again
48:26
Speaker 1: on a clear moonlit night. As Vladimir stepped outside in
48:30
Speaker 1: the backyard, and to his shock, he noticed three strange
48:34
Speaker 1: people in the yard, and, apparently thinking they were trespassing,
48:39
Speaker 1: he approached them and asked them angrily, what are you
48:42
Speaker 1: doing here? And as he got close enough to see
48:45
Speaker 1: their faces, he got a real shock because they did
48:48
Speaker 1: not appear to be normal people. Their faces were covered
48:52
Speaker 1: by a weird sort of intricate lattice which looked to
48:55
Speaker 1: him like it was made of smooth fabric, and it
48:58
Speaker 1: obscured all their faithcial features. Only their chins were visible.
49:03
Speaker 1: He could see that they were of normal height, slim
49:05
Speaker 1: but well built, he said, and all of them were
49:08
Speaker 1: wearing tight fitting, full body suits which shone like polished titanium,
49:14
Speaker 1: kind of metallic looking, no visible seams, no buttons, no
49:18
Speaker 1: markings of any kind. One did appear to be a woman,
49:21
Speaker 1: as she had long hair down to the middle of
49:24
Speaker 1: her back. But most shocking was that just a few
49:27
Speaker 1: feet behind them, near a large pile of logs, Vladimir
49:31
Speaker 1: saw a strange craft which was quite small, about the
49:35
Speaker 1: size of a car, was roundish, no sharp edges, dark
49:39
Speaker 1: in color, though it did have a transparent dome on top,
49:43
Speaker 1: was slightly off center, about six feet wide four feet high,
49:48
Speaker 1: and one of the men, whom Vladimir perceived to be
49:51
Speaker 1: the leader, invited Vladimir to join them and go inside
49:54
Speaker 1: the craft, and opened a door and all of them
49:58
Speaker 1: went inside. Entering inside this craft, Vladimir was surprised to
50:03
Speaker 1: see that it was actually quite spacious, apparently bigger on
50:06
Speaker 1: the inside than on the outside. He saw that there
50:09
Speaker 1: were soft, comfortable seats for all of them. The leader
50:12
Speaker 1: sat in the front of the craft. Vladimir sat behind
50:16
Speaker 1: this man and next to the two other beings. The
50:20
Speaker 1: leader reached out and manually closed the door, which made
50:23
Speaker 1: no sound, but it felt like to that Vladimir that
50:27
Speaker 1: it sort of protected the environment. So they sat there,
50:32
Speaker 1: not moving for a full minute, during which time Vladimir
50:36
Speaker 1: looked around and saw it appeared to be a sort
50:38
Speaker 1: of white, yellow, shiny control panel. It looked like it
50:42
Speaker 1: had nine rows of buttons. He counted he come to
50:45
Speaker 1: nine rows with twenty five buttons in each row. At
50:49
Speaker 1: this point, the leader began to press various buttons on
50:53
Speaker 1: his panel, at which time Vladimir noticed that the their
50:56
Speaker 1: fingers were a little bit different in some way from
50:59
Speaker 1: a normal persons, though this was not described in any detail.
51:03
Speaker 1: But at this point the craft began to rise slowly upwards,
51:06
Speaker 1: rotating on its axis, and looking outside, Vladimir saw that
51:10
Speaker 1: they were rising up. He saw the houses and cars
51:13
Speaker 1: and roads below him, and he says, the craft rose
51:16
Speaker 1: about one hundred and twenty feet up into the air,
51:20
Speaker 1: then turned to the west. The crew of the craft
51:23
Speaker 1: was totally silent and appeared to be paying no attention
51:26
Speaker 1: whatsoever to Vladimir. Then suddenly the craft accelerated sharply upwards.
51:32
Speaker 1: Per Vladimir, he could feel the effects of this sudden acceleration,
51:35
Speaker 1: and it frightened him, and it now suddenly occurred to
51:38
Speaker 1: him that he might be being taken away, and he
51:42
Speaker 1: promptly reached out in sort of a panic and punched
51:46
Speaker 1: the leader in the head. Following this, he immediately blacked out,
51:50
Speaker 1: and his next memory was waking up lying on the
51:53
Speaker 1: pile of logs in the backyard of his parents' home
51:56
Speaker 1: where he had first seen this craft. So interesting, and again,
52:00
Speaker 1: kudos to Vladimir for stepping forward. The vast majority of
52:04
Speaker 1: people don't. I totally understand why, especially with all the
52:08
Speaker 1: confusion and fear and ridicule and skepticism surrounding this phenomenon. Thankfully,
52:14
Speaker 1: things are changing and people are now finding the courage
52:17
Speaker 1: to step forward in much larger numbers, though it's still
52:21
Speaker 1: clear that the vast majority do not. I think this
52:24
Speaker 1: case is also important because it shows how not to
52:29
Speaker 1: react by punching an et in the head. I wonder
52:33
Speaker 1: what would have happened if he hadn't done that. I mean,
52:36
Speaker 1: it's possible he might not have been returned, so perhaps
52:40
Speaker 1: it was to his benefit. We don't know, but it
52:43
Speaker 1: might have turned out to be a much more extensive encounter,
52:45
Speaker 1: and it could have learned a whole lot more. All
52:48
Speaker 1: pure speculation, but certainly a fascinating account. And now let's
52:53
Speaker 1: move to the last one in this little collection of
52:56
Speaker 1: seven cases. I call this one psycho Analyzed by the Grays,
53:01
Speaker 1: the onboard UFO encounter of Brian X. That is a pseudonym.
53:06
Speaker 1: He does not want his real name used. He's anonymous.
53:09
Speaker 1: This case took place on February twenty four, twenty eleven,
53:13
Speaker 1: not too long ago, at Lee Summit, Missouri. And this
53:18
Speaker 1: is a super fascinating case because he verifies some of
53:22
Speaker 1: the aspects that I think a lot of contactees are
53:26
Speaker 1: now becoming aware of, and that is that these craft
53:29
Speaker 1: themselves are living beings. This very interesting case comes from
53:34
Speaker 1: the UFO group the UFO's Northwest and was also published
53:37
Speaker 1: in Albert Rosal's book Humanoid Encounters the Others amongst Us,
53:43
Speaker 1: the twenty ten to twenty fifteen version. Now, the witness
53:47
Speaker 1: in this case is anonymous. We'll call him Brian. This
53:50
Speaker 1: is a pseudonym. He's a gentleman from Lee's Summit, Missouri.
53:54
Speaker 1: It was on the evening of February twenty four, twenty eleven,
53:58
Speaker 1: and he was trapped in his apartment by a bad snowstorm.
54:02
Speaker 1: And it was during this time he says he had
54:05
Speaker 1: a missing time incident. This took him some time to recall,
54:09
Speaker 1: but he recalled it naturally without the aid of hypnosis.
54:13
Speaker 1: Herb Brian. This encounter began when a red purple light
54:18
Speaker 1: was shining on his face in bed, and it seemed
54:21
Speaker 1: to nullify him or put him into a trance. More
54:24
Speaker 1: colored lights appeared, blue and yellow, flashing in his face,
54:28
Speaker 1: and this is when he felt a small hand take
54:31
Speaker 1: his and lead him from his apartment and somehow into
54:34
Speaker 1: a craft. He never saw the craft from the outside,
54:37
Speaker 1: this was his impression, but he did open his eyes inside,
54:42
Speaker 1: and once inside, he immediately had the sense that the
54:46
Speaker 1: craft that he was inside was actually alive, sort of
54:49
Speaker 1: bio mechanical in nature, is how he put it. Seemed
54:54
Speaker 1: to be almost pulsing with a heartbeat. He saw what
54:57
Speaker 1: looked like quote blue streamlined light running through the inside
55:01
Speaker 1: of the ship, kind of reminding him of veins. But
55:04
Speaker 1: he could now see three or four typical gray ets
55:08
Speaker 1: with the grayskin, the large heads, the big black eyes,
55:12
Speaker 1: skinny bodies, and per brian. They had him sit on
55:16
Speaker 1: a flat, rectangular table, and again he had a very
55:20
Speaker 1: strong impression that the whole craft was alive, and that
55:23
Speaker 1: this table was part of the craft. He had the
55:26
Speaker 1: impressions that the whole ship was not only organic, but
55:29
Speaker 1: was linked to the advanced thoughts of the ets, who
55:33
Speaker 1: he could tell were very highly evolved. This point, he
55:38
Speaker 1: had the sense that the ship was hovering. He says
55:40
Speaker 1: he felt the gravity was slightly above normal. He says
55:44
Speaker 1: at this point the grays started staring at him with
55:46
Speaker 1: their large dark eyes, and he felt like they were
55:49
Speaker 1: kind of psycho analyzing him, going through all his memories,
55:53
Speaker 1: both good and bad memories, and he says he almost
55:57
Speaker 1: felt like they were veterinarians, treating him like animal. But
56:01
Speaker 1: he says that they were not there to harm him
56:03
Speaker 1: in any way. In fact, the opposite. He felt like
56:06
Speaker 1: they were there to help him, that they were in
56:09
Speaker 1: some way programming parts of his life in an attempt
56:12
Speaker 1: to improve his life in some way. He did recall
56:16
Speaker 1: that one of these grays was female and had instead
56:19
Speaker 1: of grayskin, more beige skin. But the next thing he knew,
56:23
Speaker 1: he woke up and he was lying on top of
56:25
Speaker 1: his bed sheets and his cat was hiding in the closet.
56:29
Speaker 1: He didn't remember hardly any of this at first, but
56:32
Speaker 1: over the days and weeks that followed, his memory came
56:35
Speaker 1: back to him, and as it turns out, there were
56:39
Speaker 1: other encounters in the area. In fact, only a few
56:42
Speaker 1: months later, on May fifteenth, twenty eleven, a group of
56:48
Speaker 1: people were driving west on Woods Chapel Road towards Highway
56:52
Speaker 1: four seventy when they saw a classic metallic saucer shaped
56:56
Speaker 1: craft hovering at low level overhead. One of the witnesses says,
57:02
Speaker 1: all of us couldn't believe what we were seeing. Everyone
57:05
Speaker 1: is asking are you seeing what I'm seeing? I kept saying,
57:09
Speaker 1: oh my god, Oh my god, I'm so mad. We
57:12
Speaker 1: didn't pull over and take pictures, although I'm not sure
57:15
Speaker 1: how well the pictures would have turned out because we
57:17
Speaker 1: didn't have actual cameras, just our phones. Now, she did
57:21
Speaker 1: find a photograph of a craft which looked very much
57:25
Speaker 1: like the one she saw, as you can see here.
57:28
Speaker 1: But as the witness says, of course, lots of people
57:31
Speaker 1: don't believe us and are assuming it was a blimp
57:33
Speaker 1: er helicopter, But all of us saw the exact same thing.
57:37
Speaker 1: There's no doubt in our minds that it was an ETUFO.
57:42
Speaker 1: None of us have ever seen an aircraft like that before.
57:46
Speaker 1: So there you go. That's a fairly straightforward case. What
57:50
Speaker 1: I like about it is that this witness did recall
57:53
Speaker 1: this experience on his own, as did all the witnesses
57:57
Speaker 1: in this collection It's an important detail because people who
58:01
Speaker 1: are skeptical often say, well, they recall this under hypnosis.
58:05
Speaker 1: Not true. All these people had fully conscious encounters. They
58:09
Speaker 1: might not have remembered everything, but they certainly remembered a lot.
58:14
Speaker 1: And that is fascinating to me because we can say
58:18
Speaker 1: with absolute certainty that these onboard encounters do not rely
58:23
Speaker 1: on hypnotic recall. While some do, many don't, and those
58:28
Speaker 1: that do or don't match up perfectly. So it's clear
58:31
Speaker 1: that hypnosis does work. But I love these fully on
58:36
Speaker 1: board and fully conscious on board cases because they have
58:42
Speaker 1: a lot of information to them. I think these seven
58:44
Speaker 1: cases I've presented today do give an accurate cross section
58:48
Speaker 1: what it's like to be taken on board, meet ET's
58:52
Speaker 1: face to face, even in one case apparently going to
58:55
Speaker 1: another planet, being physically examined by the ets, holding conversations
59:01
Speaker 1: with them. It's all just plain fascinating stuff. There's no
59:06
Speaker 1: doubt in my mind that these kinds of things do happen.
59:10
Speaker 1: I mean, you can certainly dismiss one case, or even ten,
59:15
Speaker 1: or even one hundred, but the fact is there are
59:17
Speaker 1: thousands upon thousands of cases like these. I've said it
59:20
Speaker 1: so many times While there are multiple witness cases, and
59:24
Speaker 1: there's all kinds of evidence such as radars returns and
59:28
Speaker 1: photographs and landing traces and physiological effects and animal reactions
59:32
Speaker 1: and electromagnetic disturbances and implant removals and more, the best
59:37
Speaker 1: evidence is the huge number of cases reaching back decades,
59:41
Speaker 1: coming from all over the world, cases that have incredible
59:45
Speaker 1: commonalities that virtually exclude any possibility of these being explained
59:50
Speaker 1: as hoaxes, hallucinations, misperceptions, or mental illness, which our governments
59:56
Speaker 1: are trying so hard to make people believe. I still
59:59
Speaker 1: get pushed back today from skeptics who try to assert
1:00:02
Speaker 1: these explanations for UFO contact, and it's ridiculous because the
1:00:08
Speaker 1: fact is there are far too many cases to explain
1:00:11
Speaker 1: that way. That's why the subject is so important. We
1:00:15
Speaker 1: all need to know that we are not alone in
1:00:18
Speaker 1: this universe. That is one of the main goals or
1:00:21
Speaker 1: agendas of ETS is just to let us know that
1:00:24
Speaker 1: we aren't alone. So thank you once again for watching.
1:00:28
Speaker 1: I truly appreciate it, you guys. The subject is so important.
1:00:31
Speaker 1: I think it has the potential to really change the world.
1:00:35
Speaker 1: It's going mainstream. It's a new era for humanity. One
1:00:39
Speaker 1: of these days, this cover up is just going to
1:00:41
Speaker 1: crumble under the weight of its own lies, and we
1:00:44
Speaker 1: will have truth and transparency with this subject. Don't think
1:00:48
Speaker 1: our governments will ever willingly do it, but I think
1:00:52
Speaker 1: disclosure is inevitable for one simple fact, UFOs are real
1:00:58
Speaker 1: and that is all we need to know. We don't
1:01:00
Speaker 1: need to have our lying governments tell us what we
1:01:03
Speaker 1: already know. So thank you again, truly appreciate it. Until
1:01:08
Speaker 1: next time, Keep asking those hard questions, keep searching for
1:01:11
Speaker 1: the truth, and most important of all, keep having fun
1:01:16
Speaker 1: and have a happy New Year. Bye for now, see
1:01:19
Speaker 1: you next Friday.