Latest / Let's Ask the Mamas! / Back in Church
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- 0:00Speaker 1: We got a question for our American mamas. Dear mamas,
- 0:02Speaker 1: what will it take to get people back in church? Well,
- 0:05Speaker 1: let's ask our American mamas Alma and Jodi is now
- 0:21Speaker 1: our American mamas Terry Nedville and Kimberly Burlison. We really saw.
- 0:25Speaker 1: I mean, church at Tennis has been declining since the
- 0:27Speaker 1: nineteen seventies, but boy, it cratered under COVID in part
- 0:32Speaker 1: because the government in multiple states threatened to throw people
- 0:36Speaker 1: in jail if they went to church, and they did,
- 0:39Speaker 1: and they did. Actually in Louisiana's pastor that's still fighting
- 0:43Speaker 1: this in court, but he was thrown in jail because
- 0:46Speaker 1: he refused to stop having church, even though the first
- 0:49Speaker 1: moment says we have the right to peaceably assemble and
- 0:51Speaker 1: to worship as we see fit. And churches still have
- 0:56Speaker 1: not fully recovered, at least a lot of churches are
- 0:58Speaker 1: not still fully recovered.
- 0:59Speaker 2: A lot of these preachers that were fighting this understood
- 1:02Speaker 2: that it didn't make sense that they were closing down churches,
- 1:04Speaker 2: yet they were keeping up the strip joints, the bars
- 1:07Speaker 2: and other places that were you know, around the churches, right,
- 1:12Speaker 2: And so you had these people try to stand up
- 1:14Speaker 2: against that, and they would get in trouble. Now, the
- 1:17Speaker 2: powers that be deny that they did that, which is gaslighting.
- 1:21Speaker 3: I saw ABC did a little thing about that, saying
- 1:24Speaker 3: that churches were fighting to keep people in their pews,
- 1:26Speaker 3: and it said it gave the statistic that in the forties,
- 1:29Speaker 3: eighty percent of Americans said they belonged to a church, synagogue, mosc,
- 1:32Speaker 3: or temple, according to Gallup, and today just forty five
- 1:36Speaker 3: percent of Americans say the same thing. What's interesting to
- 1:40Speaker 3: me is, I feel like more people are moving towards
- 1:43Speaker 3: being Christ centered. I feel like more people are finding
- 1:47Speaker 3: their faith and their loving God. And I think people
- 1:50Speaker 3: are moving away from the churches because the churches went political.
- 1:54Speaker 1: There's a very terry you actually belonged to a church
- 1:57Speaker 1: that was involved in this. The method United Church has
- 2:01Speaker 1: been dividing itself in part because the method the first
- 2:06Speaker 1: method is United.
- 2:08Speaker 2: Church is said Methodist Church.
- 2:10Speaker 1: We we shouldn't. They did, correct me if I'm wrong.
- 2:12Speaker 1: They bought into the transgender idea ideology the United Yes,
- 2:15Speaker 1: the United Methodist Church, which was one of the largest denominations. Yes,
- 2:18Speaker 1: but they've been losing like forty of their churches, saying
- 2:22Speaker 1: we're going to go off and go be our own thing.
- 2:24Speaker 2: Well, this was a big deal because you had a
- 2:27Speaker 2: vote within each church, the first United Methodist churches all
- 2:31Speaker 2: over the world, all over the country, country. Yeah. And
- 2:34Speaker 2: so when this started happening, like Kimberly just said, you
- 2:38Speaker 2: bring the political stuff in there, you bring the agenda,
- 2:41Speaker 2: the LGBTQ and all of that, you you start to
- 2:44Speaker 2: lose people who are like, just teach me the Bible,
- 2:46Speaker 2: teach me Jesus's teachings. So we had an actually had
- 2:50Speaker 2: to have a physical vote. Yes, so our church was flooded.
- 2:53Speaker 2: So this is what happened.
- 2:54Speaker 1: You go in and the real quick. Yeah, your church
- 2:58Speaker 1: was flooded with people, not with.
- 2:59Speaker 2: Water, right right, right right right, It was standing room only.
- 3:02Speaker 2: This is how important it was. We understood that which
- 3:06Speaker 2: whichever half lost this vote lost the church. They would
- 3:11Speaker 2: either they could choose to just stay or formed to
- 3:14Speaker 2: the teachings. And what we know is, you know, First Methodist,
- 3:17Speaker 2: or you could break away and form your own church.
- 3:20Speaker 2: So the side that one was the side that was
- 3:24Speaker 2: against all the agenda stuff, the lgbtwo, LGBTQ stuff. And
- 3:29Speaker 2: so the next Sunday that United was off and it
- 3:33Speaker 2: was just first Methodist church downtown, which is what we
- 3:35Speaker 2: grew up with. It was the first Methodist church growing up.
- 3:38Speaker 2: And then they changed it the United Methodist Church. They went,
- 3:41Speaker 2: you know, those people whom I love with all of
- 3:44Speaker 2: my heart, they chose to go somewhere else. Well, this
- 3:46Speaker 2: is what's happened. It's so interesting because in Arlington, same
- 3:49Speaker 2: thing happened.
- 3:50Speaker 3: Happened to our church.
- 3:51Speaker 2: Yes, so that church voted to stay united, but guess
- 3:55Speaker 2: what happened.
- 3:56Speaker 1: It's split anyway, No.
- 3:57Speaker 2: Nobody goes, nobody goes.
- 3:59Speaker 3: It is so theyown.
- 4:00Speaker 2: They voted and they wanted to keep it united.
- 4:03Speaker 1: But they didn't show for church.
- 4:04Speaker 2: They didn't show.
- 4:04Speaker 3: Our church, which is right. We can walk to church,
- 4:07Speaker 3: that's how close it is to us.
- 4:08Speaker 1: Huh.
- 4:09Speaker 3: It was a booming church. It was great. We had
- 4:11Speaker 3: this minister, this female minister, and I've never seen a
- 4:15Speaker 3: more divisive person in my life. She talked politics every
- 4:20Speaker 3: single Sunday. It got to where I was exhausted from it.
- 4:23Speaker 3: Absolutely just condescending. So we're done. We're like, well, you know,
- 4:26Speaker 3: we'll just find another home, a church home, that kind
- 4:29Speaker 3: of thing. The other church thirty minutes away, you know,
- 4:33Speaker 3: they broke off the other way. They're booming. You can't
- 4:36Speaker 3: even fit people in that church. And the church that
- 4:38Speaker 3: we could walk to that we've been in for years,
- 4:40Speaker 3: nobody is there.
- 4:42Speaker 1: And I was actually going to say that the church
- 4:43Speaker 1: that I go to, they do three services a day
- 4:47Speaker 1: and it's packed. I mean, you've got people coming in
- 4:51Speaker 1: and I think it's larger than it was before COVID.
- 4:54Speaker 1: And the thing I feel like I'm supposed to say
- 4:56Speaker 1: on this is if you want your church to grow,
- 5:00Speaker 1: you need to make sure people are being fed. Yes, yeah,
- 5:03Speaker 1: that they need to be fed, and they need to
- 5:05Speaker 1: be fed, not your agenda. You need to conform. If
- 5:08Speaker 1: you're the pastor of a church, you need to conform
- 5:11Speaker 1: your agenda to God's word. His word is his will,
- 5:16Speaker 1: and if you want people in your church, you need
- 5:19Speaker 1: to feed them what God wants them to eat.
- 5:22Speaker 2: And the key is the key is to have people
- 5:26Speaker 2: yearning to be there in person. Because after the pandemic,
- 5:29Speaker 2: it was so easy for people like me to say
- 5:31Speaker 2: I'm just gonna keep on pajamas and watch drink my
- 5:33Speaker 2: hot cocoa and watch my church on TV online, which
- 5:36Speaker 2: it is something you do well. That was my point.
- 5:38Speaker 2: My point is then after you get you get to
- 5:41Speaker 2: this point where you go and you're like, gosh, this
- 5:44Speaker 2: is different. You're around the people, you're in the House
- 5:47Speaker 2: of God, and there's a different.
- 5:48Speaker 1: Feelings of the Holy Spirit, and you.
- 5:51Speaker 2: Have that yearning once again.
- 5:52Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I agree with you. If you like to
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- 5:58Speaker 1: on the ask the Mama's button. Terry Nutville can't really
- 6:00Speaker 1: pro listen. Thank you so much.
- 6:02Speaker 3: Thank you