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Fringey Mini: Thawing out the love · Journey to the Fringe

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  I don't know how to feel about this article I
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  found, but I can't not share it. So we're just
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  gonna go with it and you're gonna have to trust
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  I don't steer you wrong with articles. You know
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  what? It was hard for me to start trusting for
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  some reason. I don't know why, but now I've come
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  to trust. Except for that last one you did. Oh
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  man, that one was rough. That was a rough one.
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  But the trust is still there now. This one is
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  about the implications of cryogenically freezing
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  people to bring them back. back to life at some
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  time in the future. You're really bringing us
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  a lot of content that is, we must judge the morality
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  of things. I feel like that's where this is going.
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  Continue. I don't think it's a heavy topic. It's
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  a weirdly fun one. I haven't read the article.
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  I have merely read the headline and saw it was
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  on, not the onion. So I had to read it to you
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  all. It comes from a website called dexerto,
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  d -e -x -e -r -t -o dot com, posted on November
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  17th, 2025, written by Virginia Glaze. Article
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  title, man who cryogenically froze his wife finds
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  new love years later. I'm not really sure what
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  to make of this title, but I guess we have to
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  continue listening. A man who cryogenically froze
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  his wife in hopes of curing her lung cancer has
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  found a new partner years later. It's a story
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  that feels straight out of a sci -fi novel or
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  a Batman movie with Mr. Freeze. In 2017, 57 -year
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  -old Gui Junmin made the decision to cryogenically
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  freeze his wife's body with the hope that in
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  the future she could be potentially revived and
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  treated when a cure for her lung cancer had been
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  found. His wife, Zhang Wenlian, famously became
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  China's first ever cryopreserved person. To this
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  day, her body is still being stored at minus
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  196 degrees Celsius in a unit labeled container
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  in the Shandong Yin -Feng Life Science Research
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  Institute. The institute, which was founded in
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  2015, teamed up with Shandong University Chiru
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  Hospital to start an experimental cryopreservation
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  program for humans, offering to freeze early
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  volunteers for free. When Wen Lian was diagnosed
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  with terminal lung cancer in April of 2017, Jun
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  Min made the decision to have her preserved as
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  part of the program. Quote, when she left, my
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  world collapsed, I didn't know what to do, end
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  quote, he told news outlets, describing himself
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  as a dreamer and fantasist. Shandong Yinfeng
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  or Science Research Institute claims that Wenlian
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  is in quote stable unquote condition saying her
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  cellular structure has not undergone any abnormal
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  fluctuations however she has been clinically
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  declared quote unquote dead. While Junmin's heart
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  -wrenching decision to preserve his wife in hopes
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  of a future cure was equal parts shocking and
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  saddening he's now being met with criticism for
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  refusing to wait for her resurrection. In November
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  of 2025, Chinese news outlets discovered that
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  Junmin had started dating again. Junmin himself
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  confirmed that he has been living with his new
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  girlfriend since 2020. He explained that he'd
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  stayed single for two years but suffered from
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  health complications that left him immobile without
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  any help. Oh that's sad. without any help at
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  home. Mail Business Newspaper states that Junmin
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  suffered from a severe gout attack that caused
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  him to collapse. He was discovered two days later
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  after relatives broke down his door out of concern.
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  Quote, If something really happens when you're
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  alone, there's nothing that person can do. No
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  one can know even if they die at home, end quote
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  Junmin said. He later met his current girlfriend,
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  Wang Chun Sha, through an acquaintance describing
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  her personality as kind and thoughtful like his
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  late wife. Despite entering into a relationship
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  with Chun Sha, Zhou Min said he remains committed
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  to his wife. Quote, she hasn't entered my mind
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  yet. End quote. He said of his girlfriend, quote,
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  I have a responsibility for her, but it's a complicated
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  matter. She can never replace my wife. I can't
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  just forget the past, but I still have to live
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  my life. There should be an end quote there.
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  The situation has sparked debate on Chinese social
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  media platforms with one user writing, quote,
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  Now he's holding one woman in his arms while
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  hoping to reunite with another in 30 years. What
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  is this emotional polygamy? Question mark, end
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  quote. Quote, if that is the case, why start
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  a new relationship? If you do, why not treat
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  your new partner with genuine care? This kind
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  of so -called devotion is not noble, it's selfish,
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  end quote, another remarked. This isn't the first
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  strange case of separation to go viral. In October,
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  a Turkish man agreed to pay his ex -wife thousands
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  of dollars in cat support as part of the terms
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  of his divorce. And that's where the article
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  ends. We could probably have left that last part.
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  What? What a weird place to end. I just I find
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  that a fascinating implication of freezing a
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  body to like bring it back to life in the future
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  that like you kind of have to assume that life
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  stays the same for everybody involved in that
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  situation until they find a cure or everybody
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  dies in the meantime. and you come back hundreds
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  of years later. I don't think that you can hold
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  somebody like the, this is China right? Yeah.
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  Like the media, the Chinese media is trying to
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  do in the circumstance to a decision that was
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  made when they were grieving about how are they
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  ever going to move on obviously. yeah and i'm
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  also very curious about the whole process of
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  like putting somebody cryogenic freezing it almost
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  seemed like she was still alive when they put
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  her under but also i doubt it i couldn't quite
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  understand how they were describing it i know
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  but like it did say she was clinically dead but
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  you would think to be brought back if you were
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  to be cryogenically frozen that you would have
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  to be frozen alive i mean i guess it depends
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  on where you think technology is going to be
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  at in the future where it could resuscitate the
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  body it would have to be at zombie level i would
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  think anyhow yeah it's just like one of those
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  weird implications of the decisions you make
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  30 years down the line don't really match up
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  with that yeah here's my other question what
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  would they prefer him do like do you think he's
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  paying rent for her this is like a black mirror
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  episode by the way and if he were to move on
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  are they expecting that he would be like you
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  know just un -thar and What's barrier because
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  now I move it like what what are they expecting
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  here the article weirdly almost makes him like
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  a celebrity or a star in China, from how they
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  described it, but also he lived with this woman
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  for five years before they kind of like noticed
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  he was dating someone. It must have been a slow
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  news day and they're just like, follow up on
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  this guy, and they're like, no way, you're never
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  gonna guess. Go look at all the cryogenic people's
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  family members, see what they're up to. Yeah,
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  you're never gonna guess, he's been living with
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  a woman for five years now. I thought it was
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  a fun article. You can take those implications
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  with you, I guess, for the rest of your listening
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  to this podcast episode has frozen a family member
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  or might be really awkward. A Bigfoot maybe though.
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  I don't think it's cryogenically frozen if they're
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  listening to this podcast episode. I think it's
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  a deep freeze. It's definitely a deep freeze.
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  cryogenic chamber written in short B on it. Written
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  wrong. Written wrong on it. Yeah, it's spelled
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  totally wrong. Anyhow, you guys got 48 hours.
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  Maybe look into getting that Bigfoot properly
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  stored for long -term care. So we could bring
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  it back. Anyhow, bye.