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The Late Debate | 20 May · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Welcome, Lait b.
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  Speaker 2: It's great to have your company.
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  Speaker 3: I'm James Macpherson with Liz Stauer and Caleb Bond coming up.
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  Speaker 3: Labor MPs call for Australians to swap eating red meat
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  Speaker 3: for eating insects. So I thought that was just the
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  Speaker 3: World Economic Forum, but it's the Labor Party as well.
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  Speaker 1: You thought they were two different.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, Stora would bite on that the accident.
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  Speaker 3: Plus, when we look at the papers, a great story
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  Speaker 3: on the front page of Tomorrow's Daily Telegraph detailing just
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  Speaker 3: how many failed asylum seekers are still in the country,
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  Speaker 3: and the Adelaide Advertiser talking about how the South Australian
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  Speaker 3: energy policy threatens to cause blackouts in Victoria and in
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  Speaker 3: New South Wales. We'll get to all of that when
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  Speaker 3: we look at the papers, but first, the Victoria Labor
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  Speaker 3: government is closing the state's parliamentary public gallery after interruptions
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  Speaker 3: from pro Palestinian protesters. Now, the hypocrisy on this is
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  Speaker 3: pretty big. If you're a fee paying university student in Victoria,
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  Speaker 3: don't expect the government to do anything to help you
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  Speaker 3: get to class without being harassed by pro Palestinian protesters.
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  Speaker 3: Or if you're a rent paying shopkeeper in Melbourne, CBD.
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  Speaker 3: Don't expect the Victorian government to spare you being harassed
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  Speaker 3: and impeded by the weekly hate marchers from anti Israel protesters.
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  Speaker 3: But the moment the Victorian State Government gets any opposition
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  Speaker 3: or is inconvenienced by pro Palaestindian protesters, well they can't
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  Speaker 3: change laws fast enough and suspend democratic norms.
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  Speaker 2: This all happened the decision.
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  Speaker 3: To close the public gallery after the Treasurer's budget speech
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  Speaker 3: was interrupted by protesters in the gallery.
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  Speaker 2: Have a look at what happened on May seven. Responsibilities
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  Speaker 2: at two thousand and six.
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  Speaker 4: We need.
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  Speaker 1: Where the upper gallery.
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  Speaker 3: The House will pause while the upper gallery is cleared.
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  Speaker 1: The upper gallery will be cleared.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not sure what parliamentarians were expecting. After all, while
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  Speaker 3: that budget speech was being given, a Greens MP was
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  Speaker 3: on the chamber floor wearing a kefia, a clear active protest.
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  Speaker 3: So if elected representatives are going to protest on the
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  Speaker 3: chamber floor, why would they expect anything different in the
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  Speaker 3: Peanut Gallery. As for the Victorian State government, we they've
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  Speaker 3: spent seven months doing nothing about anti Semitism, but suddenly
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  Speaker 3: when it affects them, it impeded their State conference at
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  Speaker 3: the weekend, and of course disrupted the Treasurer's speech. Well,
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  Speaker 3: suddenly they need to act not to protect Jewish citizens,
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  Speaker 3: just to protect themselves, and of course in doing so,
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  Speaker 3: closing the gallery, they impeded the rights of Laura abiding
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  Speaker 3: citizens to observe parliament for themselves. Other states don't seem
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  Speaker 3: to see anywhere near as much disruption as we see
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  Speaker 3: in Victoria calib where I know spent quite a bit
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  Speaker 3: of time. It seems like Victoria is a state run
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  Speaker 3: by pro Palestinian protesters, unionists and criminals. But I would
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  Speaker 3: be repeating myself, all of whom are appeased by the
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  Speaker 3: Victorian government, if not encouraged.
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  Speaker 2: So now you've got.
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  Speaker 3: Left wing politicians running scared of their left wing followers.
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  Speaker 2: It's a little hard to feel sorry for them, isn't it.
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  Speaker 5: Well, as Sam Crosby said on the Sunday Showdown last night,
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  Speaker 5: let's be real, Victoria is a state full of crazy trots,
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  Speaker 5: and that it is but the idea that the Parliament
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  Speaker 5: would decide that you, as a citizen or even a
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  Speaker 5: non citizen, I mean, you know, you can be a
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  Speaker 5: resident or even a tourist, that you would not have
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  Speaker 5: the ability to go along and freely view the process
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  Speaker 5: of democracy playing out is an absolute outrage.
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  Speaker 6: It is such a basic right to be able to.
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  Speaker 5: Go along and watch the people who you pay compulsorily
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  Speaker 5: through your taxes to look after you, to watch how
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  Speaker 5: they do their job, because they are.
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  Speaker 6: Doing it for you.
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  Speaker 5: These people, let's not forget, are employed by us. We
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  Speaker 5: elect them, and they are ultimately accountable to us. And
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  Speaker 5: then when they're faced with some protests and yes, these
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  Speaker 5: idiots who have been going into the public gallery and
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  Speaker 5: carrying on ought to be carted away, But in the
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  Speaker 5: face of protest, which is part of the democratic process,
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  Speaker 5: they then decide, well, no, no one is allowed to
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  Speaker 5: come into Parliament and watch how we do things anymore.
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  Speaker 5: And they will say, oh, well, you can watch it
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  Speaker 5: on the live stream online. But the live stream can
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  Speaker 5: go down, they can cut the feed if they really
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  Speaker 5: wanted to, they could stop you from watching that online.
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  Speaker 5: So they've taken away your ability to participate in the
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  Speaker 5: democratic process by seeing how it's done. And however, you know,
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  Speaker 5: well meaning this might be oh, you know, looking after
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  Speaker 5: the safety of parliamentarians. It starts with we're looking after
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  Speaker 5: the safety of parliamentarians. And then well, you know, it
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  Speaker 5: was actually quite good when we had the public gallery
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  Speaker 5: closed because it didn't create any nuisance and no.
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  Speaker 6: Noise, So why don't we leave it like that?
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  Speaker 5: And well, if you can't go along and watch parliament,
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  Speaker 5: then why should you have a right to participate and
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  Speaker 5: view any other form of democracy. Why should you be
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  Speaker 5: able to go to a council meeting, Why should you
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  Speaker 5: be able to go to federal parliament. Why should you
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  Speaker 5: be able to go and sit in a court room
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  Speaker 5: and watch court proceedings. Let's just do it all behind
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  Speaker 5: closed doors where you have no idea what's going on.
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  Speaker 5: I know it sounds extreme, but that is how important
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  Speaker 5: it is to resist this kind of thing, because it
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  Speaker 5: is the most basic democratic right.
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  Speaker 7: And also they've only suspended it till after the winter break.
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  Speaker 1: What do they think is going to be different, Well, to.
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  Speaker 7: The highest state of Victoria's supposed to have a come
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  Speaker 7: to Jesus moment. There's not going to be lefties that
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  Speaker 7: are absolute nutters charging into the chamber rather the gallery
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  Speaker 7: to disrupt the chamber, which is also arguably full of nos.
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  Speaker 7: But the reason that they give for this is highly
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  Speaker 7: questionable and not very transparent at all. So we're told
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  Speaker 7: that the President of the Upper House, Sean Lane, said
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  Speaker 7: that they reached this decision. Well, he told the hearing
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  Speaker 7: that the action to close the galleries had been taken
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  Speaker 7: after a security incident occurred while a person was being
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  Speaker 7: given access to Parliament on Budget Day, which is the
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  Speaker 7: day that we just watched some footage of. Now, word
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  Speaker 7: has it that this person was being signed in by
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  Speaker 7: an MP. No cigar for guessing what kind of MP
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  Speaker 7: in may have been signing this person in who had
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  Speaker 7: a history of protest action already, So obviously someone in.
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  Speaker 1: Parliament House please do your job.
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  Speaker 7: This is perhaps someone who ought not be admitted again.
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  Speaker 7: But we understand that there was some sort of incident
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  Speaker 7: around that, and now that has.
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  Speaker 1: Justified a call so drastic.
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  Speaker 7: I don't believe we've ever seen this take place in
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  Speaker 7: any parliament other than COVID.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously all the rules went out.
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  Speaker 6: The walls, the window, the window window.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, but this is our parliament. We paid for this place.
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  Speaker 7: We are effectively the employers who have been currently.
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  Speaker 1: Locked out of our own We own the.
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  Speaker 7: Place exactly by our little employees being like, well.
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  Speaker 1: We're concerned about our.
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  Speaker 7: Safety or whatever rubbish excuse they want to cook up.
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  Speaker 1: You didn't care when it was the public.
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  Speaker 7: No, No, but you care now, don't you, because now
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  Speaker 7: your feelings threatened by people to get this Victorian Parliament.
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  Speaker 7: Your plant potatoes, your harvest potatoes, okay, And that is
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  Speaker 7: what you guys do, your nutjobs. You make terrible policies.
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  Speaker 7: You never cracked down on the fruits of your labor, obviously,
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  Speaker 7: because you can't be this bad at your job unintentionally.
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  Speaker 7: So these are the kinds of people that you want
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  Speaker 7: harvest there in Victoria. And you don't have a problem
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  Speaker 7: with it, do you until they show up to your
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  Speaker 7: place of work, and then you take it really personally,
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  Speaker 7: just like the premiere recently came out because her office
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  Speaker 7: has been trashed for the third time by these pro
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  Speaker 7: Palestinian protesters who seem to think that she's got great
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  Speaker 7: sway in regarding what's happening in Gaza, and she's all
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  Speaker 7: angry about that. None of the rest, none of the
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  Speaker 7: fact that I don't know Melbourne University is currently under siege.
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  Speaker 1: No, none of that.
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  Speaker 7: She won't speak about any of that, but she's very
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  Speaker 7: angry that her own office has been trashed, and of
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  Speaker 7: course you get these agitators coming in if you're going
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  Speaker 7: to have.
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  Speaker 1: Open galleries, as you should. But that's what we pay
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  Speaker 1: security for.
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  Speaker 7: So we give you this awesome place called Parliament House.
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  Speaker 1: You get to come there and act all grand.
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  Speaker 7: If someone is an agitator, we're paying security to look
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  Speaker 7: after you guys, and they can just pull them out
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  Speaker 7: of the gallery. They have absolutely no excuse to close
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  Speaker 7: the gallery.
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  Speaker 1: What'sever.
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  Speaker 5: And supposedly one of the other excuses is that when
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  Speaker 5: you had that incident the woman who was screaming and
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  Speaker 5: shouting in the middle of the budget when she was
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  Speaker 5: being removed, a parliamentary attendant was injured or something. Right,
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  Speaker 5: But I mean, you know they don't go around shutting
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  Speaker 5: down pubs because a bouncer copped a bit of biffo
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  Speaker 5: from some drunk bloke on a Saturday night. Right, We
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  Speaker 5: just understand that sometimes these things happen. It's unfortunate. You
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  Speaker 5: get a bit of compo in a few days off
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  Speaker 5: and then you go back to work.
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  Speaker 1: But what that's the case? Just tell the public the
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  Speaker 1: details again and working.
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  Speaker 6: For us, and why can't you tell us that was
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  Speaker 6: the case.
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  Speaker 5: Why can't they just treat it, because they're saying, we
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  Speaker 5: need to have this this ban or stop or whatever
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  Speaker 5: you want to call it until after the winter break
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  Speaker 5: so we can figure out how to.
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  Speaker 2: Deal with it.
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  Speaker 5: Right I can tell you right now how to deal
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  Speaker 5: with it. If someone comes and sits in the public
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  Speaker 5: gallery and impedes the proceedings of Parliament, you ban them
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  Speaker 5: for two years.
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  Speaker 6: Just like if you go to the mcg or.
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  Speaker 5: Adelaide Oval or or the Gabber or anywhere and you
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  Speaker 5: disrupt the game, you carry on in an antisocial manner,
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  Speaker 5: the cops give you a move on order and they
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  Speaker 5: ban you from the ground for a couple of years.
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  Speaker 5: Just do it.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, how hard can it be to do that tomorrow?
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  Speaker 5: And you fix the issue without having to remove everyone
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  Speaker 5: from the.
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  Speaker 1: Gallery, run the prime minister. Problem solved. How easy was that, Victoria?
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  Speaker 1: How easy was that?
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  Speaker 7: You're not crushing anyone's democratic rights.
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  Speaker 1: But of course that's your specialty, isn't it.
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  Speaker 6: Well?
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  Speaker 7: Last week rumor turned to reality as President Biden suddenly
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  Speaker 7: did the wildest one eighty and decided, yes, I will
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  Speaker 7: debate Donald Trump for better off or worse twice before
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  Speaker 7: the election this year.
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  Speaker 1: I'm telling you people.
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  Speaker 7: I have bought my bodyweight in popcorn and I will be.
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  Speaker 1: Consuming it all. But Trump knows.
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  Speaker 7: Better than anybody else that what we are about to
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  Speaker 7: see with Biden agreeing.
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  Speaker 1: To such a feat.
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  Speaker 7: When this guy struggles to walk in a straight line,
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  Speaker 7: or should I say walk at all, much less read
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  Speaker 7: off a teleprompter, he knows that we are about to
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  Speaker 7: see the pharmaceutical stimulant of the century on display during
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  Speaker 7: this debate, the Manhattan Project.
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  Speaker 1: Of pharmacutical stimulants.
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  Speaker 7: And so he's told everyone just this last weekend gone,
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  Speaker 7: He's going to demand a drug test.
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  Speaker 6: Two points up to Biden.
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  Speaker 4: You can't can't talk, he can't walk, can't find his.
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  Speaker 6: Way off of stage, can't put two sentences together. Although
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  Speaker 6: he has agreed to debate, so.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe there knows something.
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  Speaker 6: He's going to be so jacked up for those debates.
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  Speaker 4: You are I just want to debate this game, but
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  Speaker 4: you know, and I'm going to demand a drug test too,
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  Speaker 4: By the way.
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  Speaker 6: I am, no, I really am.
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  Speaker 4: I don't want him coming in like the.
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  Speaker 6: State of the Union. He was high as a cake,
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  Speaker 6: he said, is that Joe up there?
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  Speaker 7: Of course, Biden's agreed to do this to save face.
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  Speaker 7: There's absolutely no other reason why he would agree to
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  Speaker 7: do this. If he were to bow out of the
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  Speaker 7: presidential debates altogether, he would have been the first president
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  Speaker 7: to do so since Nixon in nineteen seventy two. And
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  Speaker 7: of course, we know from that unforgettable poll in March
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  Speaker 7: of this year that a third of Americans don't believe
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  Speaker 7: President Biden is up for a second term due to
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  Speaker 7: his lack of mental acuity. But that didn't stop Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 7: He was having such a heyday at this rally in
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  Speaker 7: Massachusetts or.
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  Speaker 6: Was it Misschipi Minnesota?
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  Speaker 1: Minnesota.
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  Speaker 7: There's way too many states in the country of America,
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  Speaker 7: I'm telling you, but he was having so much fun.
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  Speaker 7: Everyone has likened this particular rally to a legit stand
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  Speaker 7: up comedy routine.
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  Speaker 4: Americans are not struggling, you know, this is the worst platform.
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  Speaker 6: Who put this stage up here?
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  Speaker 4: This is the freaking place is falling down. It keeps
• 13:08
  Speaker 4: stilting further left, like too many other things. What a
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  Speaker 4: crappy contractor this way now, I put my hand on
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  Speaker 4: this thing, and the thing till so over. Now, this
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  Speaker 4: sucker is really tenuous, I'm telling you, is at some
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  Speaker 4: point I'll be starting, I won't leave, and we'll finish up.
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  Speaker 4: But this sucker is going to be sitting down there
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  Speaker 4: on the floor.
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  Speaker 7: There's someone who's not reading off a teleprompter.
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  Speaker 1: And the crowd was eating it up.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, he had more laughs than those Netflix specials
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  Speaker 7: of actual comedians.
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  Speaker 2: They love it.
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  Speaker 3: I mean that shows you why Biden has specified he
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  Speaker 3: will participate in debates so long as there is no
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  Speaker 3: studio audience, because Biden well understands Trump will have an
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  Speaker 3: audience eating out of his hand while Biden has to
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  Speaker 3: stick to an auto qu and even then he reads
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  Speaker 3: the prompts as well as the script. When Trump goes
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  Speaker 3: off script, he's quite brilliant. And I think it's enough
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  Speaker 3: recognition for just how entertaining and how funny he is.
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  Speaker 5: Well, he is an entertainer, Like you know, he was
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  Speaker 5: a businessman originally, but he made his popularity out of
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  Speaker 5: being an entertainer, right, And a lot of people go, oh, Jews,
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  Speaker 5: so wish all the politicians were boring. I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 5: he just adds something to politics that you can't get
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  Speaker 5: anywhere else. And because he is an entertainer and made
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  Speaker 5: money out of doing so, for so long. He knows
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  Speaker 5: how to talk to people in the way they talk, right,
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  Speaker 5: and it's not often that you get that out of
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  Speaker 5: a politician. And you know the way he's carrying on
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  Speaker 5: about the lecturn and oh, oh freaking place is falling apart, right,
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  Speaker 5: He's talking to the crowd like the crowd talk to
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  Speaker 5: each other. And people love to see that in a politician.
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  Speaker 5: And he's just the ultimate troll, isn't he as well?
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  Speaker 5: He over the weekend gave another speech to the National
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  Speaker 5: Rifle Association, the NRA, and floated this idea, which he
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  Speaker 5: has before, but in serious interviews he's distanced himself from it,
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  Speaker 5: but he brings it up every now and again for
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  Speaker 5: a laugh, to say, well, why don't I just go
• 14:59
  Speaker 5: for a third presidency? You know, well, let's do away
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  Speaker 5: with this idea of having two terms.
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  Speaker 6: We'll go to three terms. Why not? And of course, since.
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  Speaker 5: Been two terms since FDR served his fourth term, and
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  Speaker 5: so they passed an amendment to restrict it, and he's
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  Speaker 5: sort of toyed with the idea.
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  Speaker 6: Well, you know, how bad could it possibly be? Three terms?
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  Speaker 5: I think there is an argument that three terms is
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  Speaker 5: bad because imagine if you ended up with three.
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  Speaker 6: Terms of Joe Biden. I think that is possibly the
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  Speaker 6: most argument.
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  Speaker 3: Ever, three terms of Baraka bars Yes, what's the difference.
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  Speaker 3: But the other thing, just on that stump speech that
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  Speaker 3: Trump gave, he wasn't just being funny, he was actually
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  Speaker 3: being quite brilliant. Because when he says of the stage,
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: the whole freaking place is falling apart. We don't hear
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: him talking about the stage. We hear him talking about
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  Speaker 3: the United States. When he says who's the contractor, we
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: don't hear him dissing the contract that we hear him
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: dissing the current administration. So you know, he's more than
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: just a great troll. He's actually politically quite brilliant. You
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  Speaker 3: compare that to Biden, I mean, you would buy tickets,
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  Speaker 3: You've brought your body weight in popcorn because you're so
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  Speaker 3: excited to hear Trump. But no one wants to hear
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  Speaker 3: from Joe Biden. No one even wants to see him.
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  Speaker 3: Check out his motiicaide traveling through Atlanta over the weekend
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  Speaker 3: to give a speech.
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  Speaker 2: There's the president traveling through. Now.
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  Speaker 3: Normally, whether you support the president or not, it's not
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  Speaker 3: that often you get to see his Motiicaide, right, so
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  Speaker 3: you'd be there, but there is literally nobody there aside
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: from a couple of people who are not there for Biden.
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  Speaker 3: They're just trying to get across the street. So you've
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: got these two situations.
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  Speaker 2: Right. When Trump is in court in New York, they barricade.
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  Speaker 3: A couple of blocks so protesters can't al sorry, supporters
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  Speaker 3: can't get near him. But when Biden is in town,
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: they just banned photographers from using a wide angle lens
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  Speaker 3: because don't want you to see.
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  Speaker 2: No one is there.
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  Speaker 5: And that's Atlanta, Georgia, which is you know, really blue
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  Speaker 5: part of town, right, and they still can't get anyone
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  Speaker 5: to come out.
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  Speaker 1: It's there.
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  Speaker 6: It's the greatest.
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  Speaker 5: Argument against us ever becoming a republic, because you know,
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  Speaker 5: you've got the king or the queen or whoever comes
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: at everyone lines the streets. We don't want another bloody politician.
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  Speaker 5: There's sick of politicians. We don't want to stand on
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  Speaker 5: the side of the road and look at a politician.
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: But it's like during the beginning of Trump's trial in
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: New York, when he went down after court one day
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: and made a visit to a bodega, which is a
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: convenience sort they call a convenience or a bodega is
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: And he went there because there was a former worker
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: who'd been there who'd been pursued by the cops for defending.
• 17:29
  Speaker 6: Himself against a robber, etc.
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: Went down for a bit of a political stump speech,
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: and there's people everywhere and supporters and we love you Trump,
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: and kids in school uniform.
• 17:40
  Speaker 6: Shouting out to him. Whatever.
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: So the next day or a couple of days later,
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: Biden then decided he was going to do the same thing,
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: and he pulled into a servo or something and walked
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: in and no one wanted a bar of him, right.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: It was just it was a lot of support for Brandon.
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: Let's go Brandon indeed, and Biden was also out making
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: a few speeches on the weekend. This is when he
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: made at Morehouse College in Georgia. So you've just seen
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: the footage of him driving through Georgia. He was either
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: on his way to the college or leaving it here
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: where he is talking to a bunch of students who
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: are graduating and basically going down the divide and conquer road.
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: He spent the weekend sucking up to black voters, and
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: he went to another side. He went to Detroit as well,
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: and we'll get to that in a minute, to talk
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: to an association over there. But at this college in Georgia,
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: he basically says to these kids, the country hates you
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: because you are black, and therefore you should vote for me.
• 18:44
  Speaker 8: You missed your high school graduation, you started college just
• 18:49
  Speaker 8: as George Floyd was murdered, and there was a reckoning
• 18:54
  Speaker 8: on race. It's natchel to wonder democracy you hear about
• 19:00
  Speaker 8: actually works for you. What is democracy? A black matter
• 19:06
  Speaker 8: man killed on the street?
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: What is democracy?
• 19:10
  Speaker 8: Portrayal of Broker promises slowly black communities behind?
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: What is democracy?
• 19:17
  Speaker 8: You have to be ten times better than anyone else
• 19:19
  Speaker 8: to go to fair shot. Most of all, what does
• 19:23
  Speaker 8: it mean? As we've heard before, he'd be a black
• 19:28
  Speaker 8: man who loves his country even if it doesn't love
• 19:31
  Speaker 8: him back in equal measure.
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: I mean, he literally says, you have to be ten
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: times better than anyone else to get a fair shot.
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: He is telling these kids that they've failed before they've
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: even begun. He sows the seeds of division, because what
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: else does he have.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Did you notice the applause was quite sparse.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: There were as many people clapping as there were on
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: the pavement watching his moticade because they know he's a
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: race bata and that kind of talk to a mostly
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: black student body is a pretty good dangerous.
• 20:07
  Speaker 7: Stationed yes, and which is why he brings up George Floyd,
• 20:12
  Speaker 7: because we know how big a deal that was in
• 20:15
  Speaker 7: the States, literally saying, what is democracy if black men
• 20:18
  Speaker 7: are being killed in the street? Mate, If you look
• 20:21
  Speaker 7: at your own twenty twenty three interracial homicides, eighty six
• 20:26
  Speaker 7: blacks were killed by whites and four hundred and eighty
• 20:29
  Speaker 7: eight whites were killed by black So don't be ripping
• 20:32
  Speaker 7: those stats out in your speech talking to a university
• 20:36
  Speaker 7: of young black men in Georgia.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: For crying out loud, this guy is.
• 20:40
  Speaker 7: Such a shill, and he has shown time and time again.
• 20:45
  Speaker 7: Remember that Remember that ad he did with a young
• 20:48
  Speaker 7: black family and he brought them chicken chicken, and it
• 20:51
  Speaker 7: was just so cringe nobody could watch it without their
• 20:57
  Speaker 7: eyes watering. But these Democrats have shown time and time
• 21:01
  Speaker 7: again they actually despise these people. They take them for granted.
• 21:05
  Speaker 7: This is the same man who for less than four
• 21:07
  Speaker 7: years ago said you ain't black, you don't vote for me.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: If you don't vote Democrat, then you don't even know
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: your own mind. You don't even know.
• 21:15
  Speaker 7: The party that's helping you do us a favor. They
• 21:19
  Speaker 7: do nothing but insult them while expecting to be favored
• 21:24
  Speaker 7: with their vote.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: And while Biden despises black people, the media despised Christians.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: Just before we move on to other topics, I've got
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: to show you this headline from the Sydney Morning Herald,
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: Make America Godly again? Christians refuse to lose faith in Trump.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: That was their headline in the SMH. And what I
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: thought was funny about this, Liz, is that they said
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: they can't believe Christians are supporting Trump. Don't they know
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: that Trump is a bit sort of you know, liberal
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: on abortion maybe, and he's friendly with LGBTQ people. So
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: according to the Sydney Morning Herald, you're not a true
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: Christian if you're not completely anti abortion and completely the
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: anti LGBTQ. But tomorrow they'll say you're an extreme Christian
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: radical if you are hardline on abortion and hardline on
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: sexuality and issues of trans So the.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Media have it both ways.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: I thought it was quite hysterical how suddenly they're saying
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: you're not a real Christian unless you're completely anti abortion
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: and completely anti LGBTQ people.
• 22:22
  Speaker 7: Well, despite Trump's failings, he's still better than Satan, which
• 22:26
  Speaker 7: is your other option in.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: My humble opinion.
• 22:30
  Speaker 7: But let's talk about the Greens because we love to
• 22:34
  Speaker 7: do that on this show and just check in on
• 22:37
  Speaker 7: their level of delusion.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: So there's a new committee in town. The Feds love
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: to do this.
• 22:43
  Speaker 7: This one is an oversight committee of the Defense Department.
• 22:47
  Speaker 7: There was a bit of jibaji early on the Defense
• 22:51
  Speaker 7: higher ups didn't like this idea of you know, I
• 22:53
  Speaker 7: don't know, more accountability by parliament.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Who wants that?
• 22:59
  Speaker 7: Anyway, it got across the line. It's happening, and it's
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: going to be very important. It's going to ramp up
• 23:05
  Speaker 7: parliamentary scrutiny of major acquisitions, you know, like the nuclear subs,
• 23:10
  Speaker 7: like our hunter those frigates, what are they actually hunter class?
• 23:16
  Speaker 7: I just call them hunters, you know, for short, as
• 23:19
  Speaker 7: I do.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Anyway, So very serious committee.
• 23:23
  Speaker 7: It's going to fulfill a massive function in the Greens.
• 23:27
  Speaker 7: Before it's even started are demanding a seat on board
• 23:31
  Speaker 7: because of course, the Greens, with their massive knowledge of
• 23:35
  Speaker 7: all things defense.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Who wouldn't want them to be on this committee. Right.
• 23:41
  Speaker 7: Let's go straight to the quote from David Shuebridge. He
• 23:44
  Speaker 7: says it is critically important to have a Greens representative
• 23:48
  Speaker 7: on there. Over the next ten years, the defense budget
• 23:51
  Speaker 7: is estimated to be three quarters of a trillion dollars.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: I'm impressed.
• 23:54
  Speaker 7: He even knows that funding some of the most complex
• 23:57
  Speaker 7: and high risk procurement projects the common Wealth has ever undertaken.
• 24:01
  Speaker 7: It would be reckless to limit the oversight of those projects, right,
• 24:06
  Speaker 7: So we would be limiting the oversight of these projects
• 24:11
  Speaker 7: if we don't have the Greens on board.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: The Greens, the Greens who literally.
• 24:19
  Speaker 7: Don't even support our flag which our soldiers carry into battle.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: The Greens, who are fringe.
• 24:26
  Speaker 7: Activists basically stand against everything that mainstream Australians love. And
• 24:31
  Speaker 7: indeed those who go to war fight for they hate Israel.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: They make that extremely clear. They're hostile to Orcus So
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: that's kind of important.
• 24:43
  Speaker 7: But no, they consider themselves absolutely crucial to the making
• 24:50
  Speaker 7: up of this Defense Oversight Committee. Can you imagine what
• 24:54
  Speaker 7: their contributions would be.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: This is a thirteen member committee and the members are
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: appointed by the Prime Minister. He has complete ability to
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: say who we want, which is a bit of a
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: worry because the latest News poll has the Greens polling
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: at thirteen percent.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Can you believe that? So?
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: And we've already seen that anthe Alberanzi is not above
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: partnering with the Greens. I mean he wanted to partner
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: with them to get a religious discrimination bill up. Can
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: you believe it? As if the Greens would.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Be helpful in that.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: So you could see a situation where Albanezi might grant
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: David Shubridge his desire. But this committee is going to
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: get classified defense papers. They can ask for top level
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: briefings anytime they want. If you're going to give the
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: Greens a seat, you might as well give the Chinese
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: Commonist Party and a MUSS a seat at the same time,
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: because I'm not quite sure what the difference is sometimes.
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: Look, I think it's highly unlikely that they would give
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: the Greens a seat because, of course, the Prime Minister
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: has gone through enough trouble with his own party to
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: shore up support for Orcards.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: Gillard when he's in partnership with the Greens to retain power.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: So I know that anything beyond the Labor Party.
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: Sure, that's a slightly different situations, gone through enough grief
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: with his own party to shore up Orcus and the
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: left within his own party that was opposed to that
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: that if he were to then put the Greens on
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: this committee, the blowback he would get from the right
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: of the party would be extreme and would create even
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: more troubles for him. But you would not want to
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: let them anywhere near the joint And the way they're
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: going to do it is by trying to pass an
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: amendment that mandates that they must have a seat. Now
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: no one else gets that ability.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: Well they're worthy is that it should recognize the diversity
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: of the parliament.
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: You must have it. I mean there there will be
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: nothing to say that.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: The diversity of the parliament.
• 26:37
  Speaker 7: Those of us who hate war under all circumstances.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Must also be recognized on this committee.
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: Now won't say you must have a coalition member on it.
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: It says there must be two.
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: Government members and two non government members, which could be anyone, right,
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: But I mean the Greens they hate defense. They hate
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: defense of the country because of course they hate the country,
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: and they hate defense on the front of your property,
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: because of course property is theft and you should not
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: be able to protect it from anyone else. You should
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: make it available to anyone who possibly wants to squat
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: on it.
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: Anyway, that's a matter for another day.
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: They probably want the Chinese Communist Party to squat on
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: the country too. Let's go over three minutes to the
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: UK now, where we've seen a change of heart recently
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: from the UK government when it comes to matters of transgenderism,
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: particularly where it is treated from a health perspective. We've
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: seen the closing down of the Tavistock Center, which was,
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: of course one of the major gender clinics in the UK.
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: We've seen a move away from the idea of gender
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: affirming care for children, whereby children were told that if
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: they feel our transgender then they should begin some sort
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: of medical treatment, whether that be through surgery or medication
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: or otherwise to change the makeup of their body. Will
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: not the UK Labor Party, they have decided that if
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: they are elected later this year, which seems to be
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: highly likely it will happen, they will make it so
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: easy to officially change your gender that it will be
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: more difficult to go and buy a part of milk.
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: Almost all you'll have to do is go to a doctor.
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: Perhaps your local GP, your family GP and say, look,
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: I feel like the body I'm living in is not
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: the one I belong in, and your doctor can sign
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: off a piece of paper that says officially your gender
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: has changed.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: Currently, if you want to go through that process, a
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: gender recognition certificate they call it, you have to be
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: diagnosed with gender dysphoria. You have to have been living
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: as though you were the other gender for at least
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: two years. You have to affirm that you intend to
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: live as that gender for the rest of your life.
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: You need two medical reports, one of them from a specialist,
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: and then finally all of that has to be considered
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: by a panel. And that seems fair enough because to
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: say that you are changing your gender it's pretty extreme.
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: But no UK Labor the opposition says, if we're in power,
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: do away with all of that because and according to
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: one source who talk to a newspaper the UK, they
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: said that they want the process to be less medicalized,
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: as though this was just something that you wake up
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: in the morning and you can flip flop every single day.
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: Just go to one doctor, go to one doctor on
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: Monday and get the certificate to say you're a woman.
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: And then go to another doctor on Wednesday to get
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: the certificate to say you're a man.
• 29:29
  Speaker 6: When you work out, you get some sort of tax.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: Benefit for cognitive dissonance on this one is high.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: Listen to analyst Dodds, she's the shadow Women and Equalities Minister.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: She said, my quote, we want to see the process
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: of gender recognition modernized. I'm not quite sure how you
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: modernize it. It's always been the same. You look down
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: in the shower and you know what gender you are.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: But she says this, She says, we want to see
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: the process of gender recognition modernized while protecting single sex
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: spaces for biological women. Well, the contradictions in that, wow,
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: are enormous. How can you say you can be a
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: woman simply by consulting your GP, yet we're going to
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: protect women. Also, how can you say trans women are
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: women but then differentiate between those and biological women.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: The contradictions are everywhere in this policy.
• 30:12
  Speaker 7: These people have absolutely no idea what they're doing. But
• 30:15
  Speaker 7: essentially we are talking about the party.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Who is currently not in power but.
• 30:20
  Speaker 7: Looks like they're going to be soon saying prayer UK
• 30:24
  Speaker 7: undoing absolutely everything that the current conservative not really conservative
• 30:30
  Speaker 7: but they are the Tories, so we'll say the Conservative Party,
• 30:33
  Speaker 7: the current Conservative Party which is in power, have done
• 30:37
  Speaker 7: by shutting down Tavistock by having their cast review, then
• 30:41
  Speaker 7: unloading the cast report and saying effective immediately, no more
• 30:45
  Speaker 7: of this transitioning drugs nonsense happening in our country anymore.
• 30:51
  Speaker 7: So these guys are basically signaling we're just going to
• 30:55
  Speaker 7: flip the tables. Everything's going to go. It's going to
• 30:58
  Speaker 7: be a free for all. If they're going to make
• 31:00
  Speaker 7: it that simple to amend legal records basically your birth
• 31:06
  Speaker 7: certificate or whatever the case may be, and tell the
• 31:09
  Speaker 7: world that you're now a different gender. It's as simple
• 31:12
  Speaker 7: as one trip to your GP and then your home
• 31:15
  Speaker 7: and host.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: And don't forget the British government stopped Scotland from introducing
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: Lack's gender recognition laws. Nicholas Sturgeon was going to make
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: it very easy to swap gender's richie snack. Stop them
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: from doing that. But now, of course the UK are about
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: to change.
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: I quite flippantly made a comment about it to be
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: harder to buy a pint of milk. But I can
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: tell you one thing that is harder to do, and
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: that's when I go to the doctor and I ask
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: for forty milligram tablets of somac, and I'm sure many
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: of you at home take somac. It's a reflux drag, right,
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: But if you want the forty milligrams, they've actually got
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: to call someone up and get.
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: Approval to give it to you.
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: So it's harder to get anti reflux medication in Australia
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: at Legitimately, then it will be to change your gender
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: in the UK.
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: I mean, tell me how that makes sense.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Let's stay in the UK.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: We reported recently on local council elections which were hugely
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: impacted by the Muslim vote, and we talked about the
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: changing face of politics.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: In the UK.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: Well now, a government commissioned report recommends legal protections for
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: school teachers to stop them being suspended or sacked for
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: breaching blasphemy laws. I might add these are blasphemy laws
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: that don't actually exist in the UK, but the UK
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: has ended up with the facto blasphemy laws because of
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: the influence of Muslims in that country. This goes back
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: to twenty twenty one, when a school teacher in West
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: Yorkshire received numerous death threats after he dared to hold
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: up a picture of Mohammed when talking to students about
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: the Charlie Ebdo terror attack. Now because of that he
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: was sent into hiding. He was also suspended by the school. Amazingly,
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: three years later, he and his family are still in
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: hiding because of death threats. And then last year, four
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: boys were suspended from class after having been asked to
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: bring a Quran into school for a religious class.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Apparently they dropped it.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: It got reported that they had burned it and police
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: recorded it as a hate incident, when in fact it
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: was just four boys who'd been a bit clumsy with
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: the Quran. Now, a recent survey has found in the
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: UK one out of every six school teachers is self
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: censoring or changing lessons on religion for fear of being
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: accused of blasphemy, and police have been accused of making
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: charges of religious hatred when they know full well it's
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: not a case of religious hatred, but they're scared of
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: upsetting local communities. So you've got this really interesting situation
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: in the UK where people are now self censoring out
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: of deference to Islam, and we're having to make.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Laws to protect free speech.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure the laws are going to make much
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: difference because people are afraid so much of losing their
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: job as being forced into hiding for years at a time.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. I mean this is just ridiculous. There should
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: be no blasphemy laws.
• 34:11
  Speaker 7: Blasphemy as a basic human right. You should be able
• 34:14
  Speaker 7: to make fun of whatever you like. And if anything
• 34:19
  Speaker 7: raises its ugly head and says no, no, no, I'm
• 34:21
  Speaker 7: above that, you can't touch me. That's the head that
• 34:24
  Speaker 7: you need to cut off. Because somebody's blasphemy is.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: Your free speech and vice versa. So as a Christian,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: I would never be like, no one can talk against
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: my religion.
• 34:34
  Speaker 7: How dare you say that about Jesus et cetera, et cetera.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: No, go for your life. Firstly, Jesus is a big boy,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: you can look after himself.
• 34:42
  Speaker 7: And secondly, that curtails everyone's freedoms. And that's what we
• 34:48
  Speaker 7: see playing out in dictatorship.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: Sir, Thank you very much.
• 34:52
  Speaker 7: So that should not be happening in any way, shape
• 34:55
  Speaker 7: or form. But like you say, people are self censoring.
• 34:59
  Speaker 7: This is self preservation knowing that a certain type of
• 35:05
  Speaker 7: people who adhere to the Islamic religion will take matters
• 35:11
  Speaker 7: into their very violent hands, and the UK, like no
• 35:15
  Speaker 7: other place in Europe I would venture, in recent years,
• 35:19
  Speaker 7: has seen that violence play out. They've seen beheadings in
• 35:22
  Speaker 7: the street, They've seen terrible, terrible things, and so naturally
• 35:29
  Speaker 7: even the teachers themselves are like, yeah, we are afraid.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: You got to say on that.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: We look at the UK and we think, gee, they're
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: a long way down the track. Well it's a bit
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: of a window into our future if we're not careful.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: And we've now got due self.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: Censoring in this country. Different different thing, but same theme.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: We've got people out of concern about what sort of
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: reception they will receive because of Islamic extremists are changing
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: their behavior when they ought not.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: We're supposed to be a free country.
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: But how good is the UK government commissioning a report
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: which presumably they have paid for, to come back and
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: tell them to draft laws to fix something that isn't
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: actually an issue of the law per se, because there
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: is no existing law that bans blasphemy in the UK.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: It's an issue.
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: It's an issue of how the police pursuing these things right,
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: and broadly, it's that people feel they need to self
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: CeNSE of because people come after them when they do something.
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: You can't change that by a stroke of the pen.
• 36:25
  Speaker 6: In the law.
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: You can say to the teachers, oh, well, you know
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: you're protected by the law for saying whatever you want
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: in the classroom. But that doesn't stop someone threatening you.
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: It doesn't stop someone protesting out the front of the
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: classroom or the school. That's the issue, and this doesn't
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: agree someone.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: All goes back to when Selmyn Musty was first attacked
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: and they put a FATOI threat on him. Yeah, and
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: everyone just said, oh, that's bad, instead of standing up
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: and saying we will not have this in our country.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: We're going to go to a break.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: When we come back, look at what's making news tomorrow,
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: including how many failed asylum seekers are still in the country.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: That's coming up in a moment. All right, welcome back.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: Before we get to tomorrow's papers, some breaking news that
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: I know will make Liz score It very happy, and
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: that Julian Assand has been granted leave by a court
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: to appeal his extradition to the United States. Now, of course,
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: Assan faces charges of leaking military secrets, so Liz he
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: lives to fight military secrets.
• 37:24
  Speaker 7: They're called war crimes, okay, well, war crimes, yes.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: No, they've tried again and again to get.
• 37:32
  Speaker 7: Him, and once again God is on the side of
• 37:36
  Speaker 7: the writeous. I'm telling you, I hope this appeal is successful.
• 37:40
  Speaker 7: Of course, he shouldn't be sent to the US. Number one,
• 37:42
  Speaker 7: he's already done his time. He's been in Bellmarsh, which
• 37:46
  Speaker 7: is a high security prison for the scum of the
• 37:48
  Speaker 7: earth type criminals, for what is it, over seven years now, It's.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Ridiculous, but he's more than done his time.
• 37:55
  Speaker 7: Then there was the seven years at the Ecuadorian embassy
• 37:58
  Speaker 7: in which he was locked up like an animal as well.
• 38:01
  Speaker 7: That one was of his own doing. But again fleeing
• 38:04
  Speaker 7: for his life. The CIA has been busted. You can
• 38:07
  Speaker 7: google this yourself. Toying with the idea of epsteining this guy, right,
• 38:12
  Speaker 7: So this whole idea of oh no, he should come
• 38:15
  Speaker 7: to the States and face trial here.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: No, we know what you guys.
• 38:21
  Speaker 7: Were kind of thinking of doing a couple of years ago.
• 38:24
  Speaker 7: So we're pretty convinced he won't get a fair trial there,
• 38:29
  Speaker 7: will he. And let's keep in mind that Manning, who's
• 38:32
  Speaker 7: the one who did the leaking to him. Again, something
• 38:35
  Speaker 7: that people don't understand is no hacking went on. Okay,
• 38:39
  Speaker 7: Julian Asange did zero hacking and this was shown in
• 38:43
  Speaker 7: black and white during Chelsea Manning's court martial. Okay, so
• 38:49
  Speaker 7: no hacking occurred. Everything that Chelsea Manning accessed she had
• 38:54
  Speaker 7: access to and then she sent it to Julian and
• 38:57
  Speaker 7: Julian hit post on your war crimes. Once again, if
• 39:02
  Speaker 7: you don't when your corruption exposed, just try not being corrupt.
• 39:05
  Speaker 7: But this guy has not done anything that the New
• 39:08
  Speaker 7: York Times and mainstream media throughout the world haven't done,
• 39:13
  Speaker 7: and that is the problem that the US have been
• 39:15
  Speaker 7: grappling with four years, and.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: That's why they haven't been able to nailhim.
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: Caleb, you're happy with this decision or should we just
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: get on with the rest of the news.
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: Well, I will just say briefly that the lead for
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: appeal has been granted on the basis that the US
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: has not given assurance that he could use the First Amendment,
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: which of course is the right to free speech, as
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: a defense. They've assured that he wouldn't face the death penalty,
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: which was the other condition that the UK courts had
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: previously put.
• 39:42
  Speaker 6: On it in March.
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: So essentially, what the US is saying is that they
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: will not give him the ability to defend himself on
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: the basis that what he did was free speech, because
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: of course he argues that what he did was publishing
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: content and that ought to be protected as publishers do
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: under free speech. The US is not going to let
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: him use that defense. Therefore, the UK is open to
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: the idea of him that they've allowed him to work.
• 40:05
  Speaker 7: Because they recognize that is patently unfair. That's what every
• 40:09
  Speaker 7: other publisher has done, and he is always called WikiLeaks
• 40:13
  Speaker 7: a publisher.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: That's what they do.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: So it will all continue. Let's get on to Australian
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: use the Daily Telegraph. Liz, you've got the front page.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: There, Oh I do.
• 40:21
  Speaker 7: I'm so distracted by this marvelous news. Okay, the Daily
• 40:25
  Speaker 7: Telegraphed denied just stay anyway. More than sixty thousand of
• 40:31
  Speaker 7: eighty thousand failed asylum seekers still in the country have
• 40:34
  Speaker 7: been allowed to remain with full work and study rights.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: It can be revealed.
• 40:41
  Speaker 7: Government figures revealed that eighty thousand would be refugees who
• 40:44
  Speaker 7: originally traveled to Australia on work, study or tourist visas
• 40:48
  Speaker 7: and later made failed claims for protection, are still in
• 40:52
  Speaker 7: the country.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: Okay, So why do we bother having standards? Okay? Why
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: do we bother having boxes?
• 41:00
  Speaker 7: You're supposed to tick to enjoy the privilege it is
• 41:05
  Speaker 7: to call.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: Australia home, even if for five minutes. Why do we bother?
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: Why do we bother?
• 41:10
  Speaker 7: And what on earth is this government doing to ensure that.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: People who are here are here legally? Nothing?
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: Well, I can't believe that the dat Telegraph and the
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: Daily Telegraph is referring to them as failed asylum seekers.
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: They sound to me as though they were quite successful.
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: To be perfectly honest, they managed to find their way
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: into the country under false pretenses, and then we've allowed
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: them to stay, to have like a successful venture.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: They stayed.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: But many of them are studying and work and they're
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: not failed.
• 41:38
  Speaker 6: They're illegal and so angry was your pen that it's
• 41:41
  Speaker 6: through it?
• 41:41
  Speaker 7: No doubt, no doubt, they're all enjoying the benefits of
• 41:46
  Speaker 7: the task that I'm.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Who they're here.
• 41:48
  Speaker 7: No one really not self sustained.
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: No wonder we see people trying to ram their way
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: in on boats. Some have actually made it to the shore.
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: It looks for all money like Australia is open for business,
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: do whatever your dan will like. Let's go to the
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: advertiser tomorrow where it says it's against generation fail cord
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: delay threatens to blackout Victoria and New South Wales where
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: we heard that before. We are bad neighbors, says the
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: Adelaide Advertiser of South Australia. South Australia bailing on gas
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: production could plunge Victoria into blackouts and a delay in
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: a new interconnector to New South Wales will put pressure
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: on energy supplies this summer. Now, that interconnector to New
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: South Wales. They have been talking about that since before
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: Kevin Kevin Kevin Rudd, before Mike ran became a Premier
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: of South Australia. We're talking way back in like the
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: late nineties, early two thousand dreams. They were talking about
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: the concept of an interconnector to New South Wales.
• 42:47
  Speaker 6: It still hasn't happened.
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: You had sixteen years of labor, you had four years
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: of the libs.
• 42:53
  Speaker 6: Now you've had another two years of labor. Nothing has happened.
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: The idea that South Australia is going to give up
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: on gas. The state where the whole joint was plunged
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: into a blackout because in the middle of a storm
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: the system short circuited because the renewables didn't work, the
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: wind didn't work, and a few power cables fell over.
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: So then they decided, well, we need a backup mechanism.
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: So what are we going to do. We're going to
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: go out and buy a whole bunch of diesel generators
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: to keep the system going when the renewables don't work
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: and they don't want to use gas, which is infinitely cleaner,
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: to keep the country powered up.
• 43:31
  Speaker 6: What has happened to.
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: The world, And I mean the problem is we're getting
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: rid of fossil fuels before we've got the transmission lines
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: and the renewable projects in place to give us electricity.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: So it's just a complete balls up on every level.
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: Let's go to the front page of tomorrow's Herald Sun
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: end class Fast UNI urged to bring in police and
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: forcibly remove Propellestindian activists occupying campus building, calling the cops,
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: reads the headline. The University of Melbourne is being urged
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: to call in police to evict a Propellerstinye encampment that
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: has occupied a faculty building for almost a week, ignoring
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: a final demand to leave from the vice chancellor.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: The police are now on stand by.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: I suppose we saw what happened in the United States
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: where it was mayhem, tear gas was used, et cetera,
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: et cetera.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: I suspect that's what students actually want.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: More dramatic.
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: The Herald s soners reporting that these students are already rehearsing,
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: getting their picket lines ready to resist police. And they
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: put up a sign get this that's since been taken down,
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: but the sign said helll zone, no pigs. You've got
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: there since been removed. But I mean, these student protesters,
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: they are gagging for a fight with police.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: Suspect that's what will have to happen.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: Well, here's here's hoping they.
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: Do realize that that Jews don't come into contact with
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: pigs either, don't they. I mean, if you told them that,
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: maybe they'd think that there was something wrong with it.
• 45:00
  Speaker 6: We couldn't pop honor. But you know, oh, they've been
• 45:05
  Speaker 6: urged to call in.
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: I mean, if you have to urge the university to
• 45:09
  Speaker 5: call in police after it's been if you had someone
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: camping on your front lawn for any more than twenty minutes,
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: do you reckon, you'd hesit take to call the police.
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: Well, the Vice Chancellors issued these protesters with a letter
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: advice about camping.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: I'm surprised they're still there.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: Good permit and as well that they're breaching safety regulations
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: because apparently some of the fire exits in the building
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: you're occupying have been blocked and so they need to
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: get out.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: So excuse me, excuse the universe.
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: Would you jolly well mind moving off my front lawn side, you.
• 45:41
  Speaker 6: Know, rub baggering up where I put down the new seas,
• 45:44
  Speaker 6: you don't move on within the next five minutes, that
• 45:46
  Speaker 6: it'll be lovely, you know. That's sort of how they're
• 45:48
  Speaker 6: treating them.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: Is that's pretty good.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: I know, marveless. On the front page of the Mercury,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: now Greens.
• 45:55
  Speaker 7: Fight beggar Van The Greens will again move to repeal
• 45:59
  Speaker 7: the ban on begging, saying the state is the last
• 46:03
  Speaker 7: Australian jurisdiction where it remains a criminal offense. It goes
• 46:08
  Speaker 7: on to talk about the Police Offenses Act and basically
• 46:12
  Speaker 7: describes what you or I would call well, I don't know,
• 46:15
  Speaker 7: not so much busking, but I know if you walk.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: Through the Sydney CBD.
• 46:20
  Speaker 7: There's the odd person sitting out the front of a
• 46:23
  Speaker 7: store too, with like a sign saying help me.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: Some of them are like.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: Not begging, like performing some sort of art or some
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: sort of a building.
• 46:33
  Speaker 7: I say busking, Yes, sorry buskers.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: Basically the who knew.
• 46:42
  Speaker 7: That Tasmanians still have this outlaw and so someone can't
• 46:46
  Speaker 7: just sit around being like I'm poor, Like, throw me
• 46:49
  Speaker 7: a few extra if.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: You've got it well, I mean, the funny thing about
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: this is if you are charged with begging in Tasmania,
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: it's seven hundred dollars.
• 47:01
  Speaker 5: You've got to come big.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: Card.
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: Tell me that they don't have people begging in Hobart
• 47:10
  Speaker 5: and lawn system and like, you know, it does seem
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: like a bit of a ridiculous law. I'm I'm, I
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: don't like begging and I don't give money to beggars
• 47:18
  Speaker 5: because I think it encourages them to stay on the street.
• 47:21
  Speaker 6: They'd be matching.
• 47:21
  Speaker 7: I thought it was just because you're heartless and you
• 47:23
  Speaker 7: don't care about people who are less well off than you.
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, there's that too, but you know, there would be
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: much better to use actual services to help these people.
• 47:31
  Speaker 6: And but you know, I mean, if they're going to beg.
• 47:33
  Speaker 6: They're going to beg. I don't think you can stop it.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: We're going to go to a break when we come back.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: I've totally forgotten what we're talking about. What are we
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: talking about? Oh, yes, labor MPs. They want to stop
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: us eating meat and eat insects instead.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: That's coming up.
• 47:45
  Speaker 6: Got a beg, that's what you've got to do.
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: No, it's just not the World Economic Forum. Labor don't
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: want us to eat meat either. Six West Australian labor
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: MPs want us to stop eating meat and instead start
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: eating insects and bacteria. Ben Fordham explains the reason they
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: think we won't agree to it.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: Have a listen to this.
• 48:09
  Speaker 9: This is not a joke. The labor MPs from WA
• 48:12
  Speaker 9: reckon we won't ditch meat for insects and algae because
• 48:15
  Speaker 9: of our toxic masculinity. Can you believe this? What planet
• 48:20
  Speaker 9: are they living on? You've got to remind yourself that
• 48:23
  Speaker 9: these MPs who want us all to eat insects are
• 48:26
  Speaker 9: members of the working class Labor Party. The true believers
• 48:29
  Speaker 9: are becoming bug eaters. That now the CSIRO has been
• 48:33
  Speaker 9: pushing this message for years. In twenty twenty one, they
• 48:36
  Speaker 9: released a paper called four reasons that insects could be
• 48:40
  Speaker 9: a staple in Aussie diets, from zesty tree ants to
• 48:44
  Speaker 9: peanut buttery bogong moths. The CSIRO even used a photo
• 48:49
  Speaker 9: in that report showing a kid tucking into worms on
• 48:53
  Speaker 9: toast and he'd already taken a bite out of it.
• 48:56
  Speaker 9: The insect eaters at the CSIRO argue that if we
• 48:59
  Speaker 9: want us the planet, we're going to have to replace
• 49:01
  Speaker 9: burgers with bugs.
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: Caleb, But I know you love a good steak. Is
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: that just your toxic masculinity showing?
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: Absolutely, and particularly when it's paired with red wine?
• 49:11
  Speaker 6: But you know, I actually.
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: Wouldn't mind trying a peanut buttery bogong moth.
• 49:15
  Speaker 6: I'm willing to do it at once.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: Sell it, I'm willing to do it once.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: You must stick around. Coming up in just a moment,
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: It's the Rita Pennehy Show.