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Even Dasha is a Swiftie + How Taylor Changed Her Business Sense · Inside Country with Wayne D

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Speaker 1: All right, it's Wayne Dan. I gotta tell you. Literally,
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Speaker 1: we have talked about her coming in studio for probably
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Speaker 1: what a good year too? Oh okay two years. Dash
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Speaker 1: should made time for us today. Thank you for being here.
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Speaker 1: I appreciate it, of course. And the funny thing is
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Speaker 1: football just came about in the building and we were
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Speaker 1: talking and you're like, I'm a big Chiefs fan because
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Speaker 1: who's got so let's start. Obviously you have some swiftye
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Speaker 1: and you to be celebrated news like that.
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Speaker 2: Uh, they call me trailer swift on the streets, so
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Speaker 2: people have said.
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Speaker 3: That, Yeah, I'm not hilarious.
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Speaker 2: I'm making merch right now. I think it's so funny.
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Speaker 2: Run with it, right, I'll give you one just makes
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Speaker 2: a tank top only if it's crop girl. Yeah, girl,
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Speaker 2: come on as a fet so we'll talk music and
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Speaker 2: we'll talk to you being an artist in a second,
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Speaker 2: as a music fan.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, did you nerd out Taylor's news yesterday? Yeah?
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Speaker 2: Well, okay, my mom is the one that called me.
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Speaker 2: I was in Whole Foods shopping and she was like,
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Speaker 2: did you hear? And I was like, what are you
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Speaker 2: talking about? She's like, Taylor gon't engaged and I was like, what, that's.
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Speaker 3: The cash register and the girl on who's checking me out?
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Speaker 1: I was like wait what? And I was like, oh
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Speaker 1: my god.
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Speaker 2: It was like the most wholesome moment of like girlhood,
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Speaker 2: just like all freaking out.
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Speaker 3: It was cute. So yeah, I did.
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Speaker 1: So let me ask you, as somebody who now is
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Speaker 1: your own artist and you're inspiring another generation of artists
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Speaker 1: behind you, what is it about Taylor Swift that's so
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Speaker 1: appealing Because a lot of people are just fans, right,
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Speaker 1: but now you understand multiple sides of the business. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: plus you're fans, So what is it about Taylor that
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Speaker 1: you're like? Well?
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Speaker 2: As a kid, I loved her songwriting and her how
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Speaker 2: she just showed up in the world as like such
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Speaker 2: a role model for young women, and that's why I
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Speaker 2: was drawn to her. But now as someone who's in
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Speaker 2: the business who understands, like, you know, having a label
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Speaker 2: deal and working radio and publishing and like all the
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Speaker 2: different sides of the music world that aren't you can't.
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Speaker 2: You don't know that until you're actually doing it. I
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Speaker 2: respect her so much as a businesswoman as a CEO.
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Speaker 2: I've watched like all her documentaries and.
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Speaker 3: She's a genius.
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Speaker 2: That woman is so smart and she's such a boss,
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Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, I want to be like that.
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Speaker 2: So I feel like I've taken like the business side
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Speaker 2: of me, like really admires her for that too.
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Speaker 1: What are some pieces, because obviously being inspired by somebody
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Speaker 1: means they give you ideas on how to execute for you. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so what are behind the scenes things that fans may
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Speaker 1: have zero clue about that, Like you give attention to
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Speaker 1: because you saw Taylor do something and you're like, hey,
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Speaker 1: I want to have my hands more on that.
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Speaker 2: Well, one thing is she has like this is like
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Speaker 2: kind of corporate meeting. I don't know how often she
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Speaker 2: does it, but like both her parents are on the board.
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Speaker 2: It's a board meeting, and she has like this really
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Speaker 2: core meeting. However often she does it, but it's all
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Speaker 2: like big ideas and they go from the small sottle
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Speaker 2: details to like, hey, this is the next album. This
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Speaker 2: is why I want to start teasing it, and it's
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Speaker 2: just like everyone knows everything and it's in like this
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Speaker 2: one bubble. And she also has her own like management
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Speaker 2: company that just manages her thirteen management and she owns
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Speaker 2: that company, which is gene it's just like little things
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Speaker 2: like that that I'm like, well duh, but usually that's
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Speaker 2: not how the artist works, which doesn't really make sense.
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Speaker 2: But you can do whatever the hell you want because
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Speaker 2: you are the CEO as the artist.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's really interesting.
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Speaker 1: Plus you can pay yourself.
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Speaker 3: You can pay yourself.
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Speaker 1: Listen with checks on checks on Buck's. Let's rewind things
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Speaker 1: because obviously you had a great CMA fest. We saw
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Speaker 1: the bar take over there, but we haven't talked before,
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Speaker 1: so we're going to rewind things back. Let's take it
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Speaker 1: as things started to take off for you, because it
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Speaker 1: literally like Austin went from a song that oh oh,
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Speaker 1: that's that TikTok song, yeah, to like all over radio,
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Speaker 1: all over social media. What was that rise like for you?
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Speaker 1: And was it a little terrifying because thanks to social
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Speaker 1: media that fire burns fast now?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was insane. It was so surreal. For context,
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Speaker 2: I've been chasing this since I was eight years old.
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Speaker 2: That's when I started gigging and writing songs and all
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Speaker 2: that stuff. And to have a song do what it
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Speaker 2: did on social media and then transfer so beautifully over
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Speaker 2: to like the real world of music was like my
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Speaker 2: dream coming true. Times ten, and like the fact that
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Speaker 2: it went so international so fast was also a crazy
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Speaker 2: part of it because before I was even touring in America,
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Speaker 2: I was out in Europe, in Australia and New Zealand
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Speaker 2: and like doing that whole thing, which usually takes years
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Speaker 2: and years and years, especially for country.
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Speaker 3: People to get to So that was also wild.
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Speaker 2: And I was just like thrown into it and I
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Speaker 2: was like, let's do this thing, like I'm so ready
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Speaker 2: for it.
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Speaker 3: It was wild.
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Speaker 1: The only thing that I hate about like TikTok I
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna use the word TikTok artists is that oh god,
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Speaker 1: you get well, there's like a negative contentsation. Yeah, just
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Speaker 1: because somebody may have discovered you there or like that's
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Speaker 1: the gas was already there, you just needed the fire
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Speaker 1: to be lit. It's almost like you get pigeonholed there.
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Speaker 1: How have you combatd that? Like, how have you been
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Speaker 1: like well, no, hang on, that's that's what opened the door.
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Speaker 1: But like the rest of the house has made hits. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I know.
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Speaker 2: It's so frustrating being like, oh, you're that TikTok artist
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Speaker 2: and I'm like shut up, like no, that's it's a
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Speaker 2: free marketing tool, like I would be stupid.
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Speaker 3: Not to be using it. Whatever.
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Speaker 2: I could go on for hours about that, but no,
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Speaker 2: I think for me, I can't control what people say
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Speaker 2: about me. I can laugh at it and not be
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Speaker 2: affected by it. But I think for me, like I
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Speaker 2: always consider myself a songwriter first and foremost, and so
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Speaker 2: putting out the next single not this party, and being like, well,
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Speaker 2: what about this one? My TikTok artist now and what
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Speaker 2: about this song and what about this writing? And like
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Speaker 2: I think I just like proved myself as like I'm
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Speaker 2: an artist first and foremost, and like, sorry, I'm good
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Speaker 2: at social media, sue me, you know. So it just
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Speaker 2: like kind of backlashed at them if they kept calling
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Speaker 2: me that. And I don't really get called that anymore,
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Speaker 2: which is cool.
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Speaker 1: Which is nice to get past because it's almost like
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Speaker 1: before social media, there was an American Idol, right, and if
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Speaker 1: you go an American Idol now you're like, here's American
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Speaker 1: Idol Champion falls around forever.
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Speaker 3: I'm an artist, yeah, but then carry Underwood broke out
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Speaker 3: of that. Yeah, So it just takes time.
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Speaker 1: I think, honestly, at what point were you like, hey,
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Speaker 1: this is cool, But like I Don't want to live.
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Speaker 1: Austin was such a massive song right on social media,
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Speaker 1: did phenomenally in streaming and on radio as well. At
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Speaker 1: what point we were like, Okay, this is cool, but
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Speaker 1: like like let's let's clean the slate off and like,
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Speaker 1: let's really now that you have the attention, now that
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Speaker 1: the spotlight's on, like let's.
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Speaker 2: I think honestly, I started getting comments like she only
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Speaker 2: has one song, like oh, this song again, and I
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Speaker 2: think I started kind of listening to that. And also
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Speaker 2: it was it had been like nine months of just
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Speaker 2: pushing the shit out of that song, and I was like, Okay,
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Speaker 2: it's time to put out another banger. And in that time,
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Speaker 2: I'd put out the rest of that album, the deluxe version,
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Speaker 2: so like there had been new music in the market,
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Speaker 2: but like, Austin was such a huge song that the
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Speaker 2: other songs made like just the tiniest little blip compared
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Speaker 2: to that. So I was like, okay, what is the
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Speaker 2: next push? And then not this party? I wrote it
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Speaker 2: and the whole team was just like, girl, this is
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Speaker 2: it because it has that you know, it has that
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Speaker 2: kind of that soul inside to it that I love
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Speaker 2: writing about that the kind of like the sadness of like,
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Speaker 2: oh man, I'm not at this party. I want to
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Speaker 2: be with this home boy in the backseat right now.
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Speaker 2: But then it has that huge dance beat, which is
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Speaker 2: so such a big part of who I am as
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Speaker 2: an artist, and like that line dancing side of me.
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Speaker 2: So it was kind of the perfect follow up. So
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Speaker 2: I was just kind of waiting for that and then
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Speaker 2: it came about and I was like, let's go.
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Speaker 3: Here we go.
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Speaker 1: When it comes to that, there's so many artists that
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Speaker 1: love the songwriting part, and like, I don't want to
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Speaker 1: say they have to perform, but like there's a lot
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Speaker 1: of people that would be happy just they just want
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Speaker 1: to write it, let it all out, and then go
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Speaker 1: let it live while they move on. Is there any
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Speaker 1: part of you that's like, hey, if I just wrote songs,
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Speaker 1: that wouldn't be the end of the world for me.
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Speaker 3: I've thought about that for sure.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Last year I hit kind of a dark spot mentally,
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Speaker 2: just dealing with all of a sudden being in the
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Speaker 2: light and it was just a really fast transition and
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Speaker 2: I was like, oh God, this is a lot and
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Speaker 2: I definitely thought about that. But I think there's a
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Speaker 2: part of me that just feels so at home on
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Speaker 2: stage and the performing that aspects of it, the engagement
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Speaker 2: of people is just lights me on fire more than
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Speaker 2: anything else does.
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Speaker 3: So I don't think I could just be a songwriter ever.
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Speaker 1: As cool as it is to watch like the TikTok
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Speaker 1: stuff blow up and then the success to transition to
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Speaker 1: other avenues of country, what have been some cool moments
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Speaker 1: for you? And I love to ask this question to
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Speaker 1: like newer artists, because you're still very much looking through
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Speaker 1: fan glasses, right even though you're even though you're doing
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Speaker 1: it and you're creating and you're seeing success and selling
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Speaker 1: merchant tickets, you're meeting heroes that you've never met. You're
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Speaker 1: getting dms from other artists and celebrities that are like,
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Speaker 1: hey girl, I'm coming on the show. I love this whatever.
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Speaker 1: So give us a couple of moments like that where
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Speaker 1: you were like, oh my god, get where you got,
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Speaker 1: where you got to do that, Oh my god, like
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Speaker 1: your fans would for I think.
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Speaker 2: The first one was when Keith Urban texted me. I
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Speaker 2: was in Germany on this like press tour and I
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Speaker 2: got a text. It was like, hey, d it's Keith
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Speaker 2: Urban in parentheses and I was like, what is going on,
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Speaker 2: like freaking out, and he liked Austin and he had
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Speaker 2: me come play it at cmafes last year two years ago,
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Speaker 2: and that was that was wild because I mean, it's
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Speaker 2: freaking Keith her but I'm such a fan of his
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Speaker 2: and like hanging out with him and his band and
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Speaker 2: like learning the song how they wanted to do it
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Speaker 2: was just such a cool way to experience someone else's camp.
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Speaker 2: And like Keith has been in it forever and I
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Speaker 2: have not. I'm so new to this scene.
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Speaker 1: It was.
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Speaker 2: It was kind of like just like a study period
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Speaker 2: of like, Okay, this is really cool to see how
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Speaker 2: you do it and how you interact with your band
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Speaker 2: and your team, and it was.
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Speaker 3: It was really cool. So that was the first one
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Speaker 3: that like geeked me out.
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Speaker 1: He Keith has always been a guy, Like there's there's
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Speaker 1: stories like that for you and other female arts as well.
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Speaker 1: I mean, matter of fact, he had a handful of
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Speaker 1: Vegas residencies where only female artists open for him. That's
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Speaker 1: so cool, Like he has he has a like a
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Speaker 1: sob and maybe it's the dad's side of the girl.
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Speaker 2: Dad.
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Speaker 1: He's got like this soft spot for like Hey, I
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Speaker 1: have a platform. Yeah, and getting a platform is hard,
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Speaker 1: and sometimes it's a lot harder for a female country artist.
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Speaker 1: So he's like, step on in, I got you. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: who are other artists that have maybe befriended you, like,
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Speaker 1: hey we should tour, Hey we should do a song. Hey,
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Speaker 1: you know, I love what you're do and like support
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Speaker 1: from the industry.
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Speaker 2: I mean, Lady Wilson from the beginning was she texted me.
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Speaker 2: We met at the CMT Awards and I was that
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Speaker 2: was my first ward showever, and she came up to
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Speaker 2: me backstage. It was just like such older sister vibes
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Speaker 2: Her and Kelsey Vallerini have been total older sisters to me.
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Speaker 3: Megan too.
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Speaker 2: Megan and I met a couple months ago and we
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Speaker 2: Drake Margerite isn't her bus and we just talked all
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Speaker 2: the shit and it was so healthy.
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Speaker 3: It was great.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: So, I mean, honestly, I just feel like I've been
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Speaker 2: lifted up by so many like women around me, which
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Speaker 2: has been really nice. And then Thomas Red of course
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Speaker 2: bring me out in to her. He's such a buddy,
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Speaker 2: he's so cool. We met the first time in a session,
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Speaker 2: which is cool, and so we got to hang out.
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Speaker 3: I cuss a lot.
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Speaker 2: He doesn't, so that was a crazy juxtaposition. He's such
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Speaker 2: a wholesome dad and I was just like.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, this dude and blah blah blah.
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Speaker 3: He's just like holy God, and I'm like, oh god.
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Speaker 3: So that was a very fun session.
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Speaker 1: His wife wiped down the studio with a left.
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Speaker 3: Let's clean up after her, and I was like sick.
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Speaker 1: She's like, did you give her a high five? Here? O?
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Speaker 1: My god?
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Speaker 3: He's so sweet.
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Speaker 1: Success is so is so hard to grab onto right,
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Speaker 1: and it's and it's kind of like that, it's it's
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Speaker 1: tough to get to where you want to go, but
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Speaker 1: it's twice it's tough to stay there. So knowing that
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Speaker 1: Austin's your first offering the country radio, it saws success.
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Speaker 1: It had not normal. I'm sure you've heard from anybody
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Speaker 1: that listen right that that that's not normal to see
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Speaker 1: success like that out of the gate. What type of
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Speaker 1: pressure do you put on yourself now? Moving forward? Obviously
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Speaker 1: we have the next single, not at this party, but
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Speaker 1: like even past that, Like, hey, we started we started
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Speaker 1: at ten, so we can't we can't come back at four.
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Speaker 2: I'm working this new project right now, which I feel
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Speaker 2: like is kind of like my baby country album because
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Speaker 2: I had What Happens Now come out, but it was
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Speaker 2: kind of so lost in the sauce. And now it's like, Okay,
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Speaker 2: this is like the first like big project in putting
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Speaker 2: out and I'm not lie. I'm kind of freaking out.
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Speaker 3: A little bit inside about it because I care.
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Speaker 2: So much and I really really love these songs and
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Speaker 2: I just want people to understand the songs.
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Speaker 3: And love them the way I do.
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Speaker 2: So that's been a lot of pressure, and not just
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Speaker 2: like the songs, it's like the music videos and the
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Speaker 2: cover art and like every little piece of it really
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Speaker 2: matters to me, like the like of like that music
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Speaker 2: video was so fun shooting and I it's we shot
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Speaker 2: it like a week before it came out, so it
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Speaker 2: was like so running gun and like girl, I pray
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Speaker 2: and it turns out well because there's not a second
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Speaker 2: option we have here. So yeah, there's a lot of
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Speaker 2: pressure on it. But also I think I make the
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Speaker 2: best art under pressure, So I'm kind of.
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Speaker 3: Like letting myself just be what it is. I trust myself.
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Speaker 2: I really do trust myself as an artist, and I'm
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Speaker 2: just gonna try my best and do the best I can,
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Speaker 2: and there's not much I can do about that.
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Speaker 1: So, yeah, I'd like to talk about collabs because everybody
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Speaker 1: is doing collabs and it's almost like if your album
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Speaker 1: doesn't have it, like, well, then go back and find one. Right.
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Speaker 1: It almost feels like that's the native in Nashville right
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Speaker 1: now as you still are introducing yourself very much to
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Speaker 1: fans every day, is there any party that's like cool?
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Speaker 1: Collabs are great, but like we're going to establish who
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Speaker 1: I am first before like I just start being just
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Speaker 1: singing hooks for everybody else. Yeah, I that for you.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't done an official collab yet, and I've
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Speaker 2: kind of been waiting for a very special moment, and
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Speaker 2: we have some special moments coming up which are which
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Speaker 2: is exciting, definitely on the horizon. But this first part
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Speaker 2: of the project that's coming out soon, it's just there's
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Speaker 2: no collaps. It's just all me, and I feel like
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Speaker 2: I had to kind of rewind and introduce people to like, Okay,
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Speaker 2: now you heard my hit, you maybe heard a couple songs,
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Speaker 2: but let's rewind and let's talk about where I came.
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Speaker 3: From and why I do what I do. And why
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Speaker 3: I show up the way I show up because y'all
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Speaker 3: have no idea. You just call me the boots girl,
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Speaker 3: you know. So let's back it up.
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Speaker 1: I have to ask because anybody that watches the video
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Speaker 1: portion of this interview, there was a big smile, face
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Speaker 1: was glowing a little bit when you said there's special
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Speaker 1: things coming. So I have to say, is there a
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Speaker 1: collab on the horizon. I'm not going to ask you
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Speaker 1: to name names or give release dates, but like, is
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Speaker 1: there something set in stone, Like, hey, we are going
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Speaker 1: to do something and it's going to happen you know
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Speaker 1: this year?
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Speaker 3: Yes, not this year?
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Speaker 1: Got it? But soon yes, Well we can't wait to
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Speaker 1: see what you and Morgan want. What I was kidding
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Speaker 1: when I say I always look over at the label
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Speaker 1: in case of like you will edit that out now
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Speaker 1: start over.
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Speaker 3: Hey, Morgan, hit me up, hit me up. I haven't
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Speaker 3: met yet, but big.
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Speaker 1: Fan, that's speaking of meeting. You have a name that
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Speaker 1: compete pronounced more than one way. Oh my god, and
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Speaker 1: I've heard it all I got but like, here's the thing.
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Speaker 1: I hate that for you. Yeah, because I've heard other
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Speaker 1: artists the same and they go, just call me whatever
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Speaker 1: and it's like, hell, no, that's you're right. Yeah, So
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Speaker 1: what's what's the worst introduction wise, You've gotten the name
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Speaker 1: like somebody just butchered the hell out of.
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Speaker 2: I had an interview the other day and he pronounced
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Speaker 2: my name three different ways during during the interview, and
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Speaker 2: I was like, this is impressed. I think he was
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Speaker 2: freaking out inside obviously, because he could tell.
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Speaker 1: If we weren't recording, I'd guess the name just to
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Speaker 1: be a dick. But I'm not going I.
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Speaker 2: Got I get Daisha all the time, dashaw sometimes, which
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Speaker 2: makes no goddamn sense. It's dash. People come yeah, just
15:38
Speaker 2: call me dash. It's so easy.
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Speaker 1: If you're a French or Italian I can see.
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Speaker 3: Or like Russian Dasha. But it's not. In middle school,
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Speaker 3: I got called Dousha. That one hurt. Yeah, So.
15:56
Speaker 1: That's funny. Tom Martins is still called.
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Speaker 3: That Is that right? I knew he got along for
16:01
Speaker 3: some reason.
16:03
Speaker 1: Trauma speaking of God, trauma, What a great segue. There
16:09
Speaker 1: is something that Hey and I love to get, like
16:13
Speaker 1: in the weeds with artists, okay, and speaking to Keith,
16:16
Speaker 1: he gave us a phenomenal answer. Because mental health for
16:20
Speaker 1: artists was never a priority it was like, keep Oh,
16:24
Speaker 1: you made a hit, where's the next one? Give me
16:27
Speaker 1: the next five?
16:28
Speaker 3: You're tired?
16:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, you won the weekend off not in the cool
16:31
Speaker 1: maybe in December, you're like, but it's like it's April
16:39
Speaker 1: with As fast as things took off for you, i'd
16:42
Speaker 1: imagine mental health took a back seat. So you don't
16:48
Speaker 1: have to share anything you don't want to. But how
16:50
Speaker 1: did you get to a place and maybe you're not
16:52
Speaker 1: even there yet, how did you get to a place
16:53
Speaker 1: where you're like, hey, I have to be a priority
16:55
Speaker 1: at some point before like I go crazy, and y'all
16:59
Speaker 1: don't get If I go crazy, y'all don't get paid
17:01
Speaker 1: no more.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, I got really bad.
17:06
Speaker 2: Like last September, I was dating this guy who was
17:11
Speaker 2: like literally my emotional support animal, and then we broke
17:16
Speaker 2: up and that just sent me off the deep end,
17:19
Speaker 2: as you can probably imagine. Yea, not even because I
17:22
Speaker 2: was I mean, I was sad about the breakup, but
17:24
Speaker 2: it was just like I didn't have anywhere to ground
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Speaker 2: myself too, and it was really scary. So I learned
17:30
Speaker 2: that I need I need the groundingness. I need to
17:33
Speaker 2: go play pick a ball.
17:34
Speaker 3: With my friends.
17:35
Speaker 2: I need to go to the grocery store and cook
17:36
Speaker 2: my own dinner and them in town. I need to
17:38
Speaker 2: not text anyone for twenty four hours sometimes, Like there's
17:41
Speaker 2: just like simple things that everyone needs. And just because
17:45
Speaker 2: I have I live in the public eye, doesn't mean
17:48
Speaker 2: I don't need it too, you know, And.
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Speaker 3: I don't know.
17:51
Speaker 2: I think also there's been times when fans have come
17:54
Speaker 2: up to me when like one night, I was in
17:57
Speaker 2: the airport and I was just having a classic mint
18:00
Speaker 2: t be absolute breakdown, sitting on the floor, hat sunglasses on,
18:04
Speaker 2: like crying, okay, and.
18:05
Speaker 3: Sometimes you just gotta do that, okay.
18:07
Speaker 2: And I'm in the airport and these fans come up
18:09
Speaker 2: to me and they're like, are you Dasha, And I
18:12
Speaker 2: literally look at them, I take off my sunglasses. I'm like,
18:14
Speaker 2: I am and I love you, and I am in
18:17
Speaker 2: no picure. I'm in no state to take a picture
18:18
Speaker 2: right now. And I hope you understand that, and just
18:20
Speaker 2: having that real connection like I am a person in
18:25
Speaker 2: some fugly sweatpants right now, sobbing my eyes out and
18:28
Speaker 2: I love you, but do not ask for a picture
18:31
Speaker 2: right now.
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Speaker 3: And it's just like setting that boundary, I think is
18:33
Speaker 3: really healthy.
18:34
Speaker 2: So I've kind of learned that I'm a people pleaser,
18:38
Speaker 2: recovering people pleaser, and we're trying to miss you.
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Speaker 1: Know, and listen. But like the boundary thing doesn't make
18:44
Speaker 1: you bad, no, and the unfortunate thing is as much
18:48
Speaker 1: as you can explain it, right. And there's some people
18:51
Speaker 1: in your life that like give them an explanation so
18:54
Speaker 1: they don't hate you. But like other people, it's like, dude, dude, dude,
18:58
Speaker 1: what if I was going to the bathroom straight bathroom? Yeah,
19:02
Speaker 1: because like I'm in a moment where I just need
19:04
Speaker 1: me and don't be around you. I'll sign something. Let
19:07
Speaker 1: me sign something.
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Speaker 3: Easy, exactly.
19:09
Speaker 2: And I think, honestly, like having that rapport fans is
19:13
Speaker 2: really important to me because the whole relationship of like
19:18
Speaker 2: artists fan is so like I'm above you, and I
19:21
Speaker 2: think it's so backwards and weird because at the end
19:24
Speaker 2: of the day, like I'm not better than you just
19:26
Speaker 2: because I make music and you know about it. It's
19:28
Speaker 2: I don't like that dynamic at all, and I think
19:31
Speaker 2: it makes it like needy and like frantic and scary
19:35
Speaker 2: and like that's how you get chased down the street,
19:37
Speaker 2: and that's how people show up to your house. But
19:39
Speaker 2: if you just like are so human with him, it
19:42
Speaker 2: kind of breaks that, like, oh you're a god. We're
19:45
Speaker 2: just all humans together. So I've been trying to practicing
19:48
Speaker 2: that when I can. But also I'm just a girl.
19:52
Speaker 2: So we're trying our best.
19:55
Speaker 1: Think you're doing great musically. In between now and the
19:59
Speaker 1: rest of the year. I things are still burning red
20:01
Speaker 1: hot for your wise and schedule wise. Where's some downtime
20:05
Speaker 1: that you've intentionally placed in between now and the end
20:07
Speaker 1: of the year.
20:08
Speaker 2: I have some off time at Christmas.
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Speaker 1: Not till December.
20:12
Speaker 2: Well, okay, that's not true. I'm going home for Thanksgiving.
20:15
Speaker 2: And the last year I was in the Thanksgiving parade.
20:17
Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw lips.
20:20
Speaker 3: Should we talk about it?
20:21
Speaker 1: No, let me tell you no, it was great. Don't
20:26
Speaker 1: worry about it. Listen, regardless of them, just a girl.
20:29
Speaker 1: First of all. First of all, that's on them, not.
20:32
Speaker 2: Youatting rhythmsic over my face.
20:35
Speaker 3: That was on me. Let's be real, and let's be
20:37
Speaker 3: so real.
20:39
Speaker 1: You're drowning. I'm trying to throw you a life preserver.
20:42
Speaker 1: Just grab it and we'll move on. So will you
20:45
Speaker 1: have downtime over Thanksgiving.
20:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go home and I do you know
20:49
Speaker 2: about blackout Wednesday? It's the Wednesday before Thanksgiving and then
20:53
Speaker 2: that's all the high school homies pull up to that
20:55
Speaker 2: local bar.
20:55
Speaker 3: We go to Frog and Peach, okay, and it's the
20:58
Speaker 3: most fun.
20:59
Speaker 1: You just said you get high school kids drunk.
21:02
Speaker 3: No high school homies. Oh, I mean, maybe depends.
21:07
Speaker 1: I just want to see what tom I would say
21:08
Speaker 1: about that.
21:10
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's the best day of her So I
21:11
Speaker 2: made sure I'm off because I want to go to
21:13
Speaker 2: black I wouldn't.
21:13
Speaker 1: Say as you should. That's it's funny because when you
21:15
Speaker 1: work where we work, we do the same thing. Really,
21:19
Speaker 1: but it's not it's not celebrating.
21:21
Speaker 3: It's oh coping, it's coping. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's
21:25
Speaker 3: a little bit of both.
21:25
Speaker 1: Nobody will hear this part of the interview, so you
21:27
Speaker 1: know we will clip it, clip it. Give me the
21:32
Speaker 1: best tour story. You got best tour story because you
21:35
Speaker 1: had mentioned Thomas rhtt. Obviously you've been on the road
21:37
Speaker 1: and you have festivals. You're bumping into big names. So
21:40
Speaker 1: give us, give us a cool This isn't like a
21:43
Speaker 1: weird like. Give us a secret, but like, what's a
21:45
Speaker 1: cool story that you're like, Man, this is something I'll
21:47
Speaker 1: remember forever.
21:48
Speaker 3: I have.
21:48
Speaker 2: I have the perfect one, okay, so and I have
21:51
Speaker 2: a picture to go along with it that can be
21:53
Speaker 2: an asset later. So it was the last night of
21:57
Speaker 2: my portion of the Veteran Boots tour with tr and Tucker.
22:00
Speaker 2: We more and uh Tucker and I've gotten really close
22:04
Speaker 2: because her stars kind of rose at the same time,
22:06
Speaker 2: so we've just been everywhere at the same time, and
22:08
Speaker 2: we just became really good friends this past like year
22:10
Speaker 2: and a half. So we had the idea hanging out
22:14
Speaker 2: like the previous weekend. I was like, we need to
22:16
Speaker 2: do an end of tour prank on tr. It's my
22:20
Speaker 2: last show next weekend. We gotta do something. And He's like,
22:22
Speaker 2: I'm so in and I was like, oh my god,
22:24
Speaker 2: I have an idea. So I would go up and
22:26
Speaker 2: sing Heads Carolina with tr you know, and uh Tucker
22:29
Speaker 2: would usually go up right after and do small Town Girls.
22:33
Speaker 2: And so I was like, Tucker, what if we clip
22:37
Speaker 2: in some of my extensions to your hair. Okay, put
22:39
Speaker 2: it on a little ball cap, put on a little
22:42
Speaker 2: tank top that I would wear, and you go out.
22:44
Speaker 2: I'll be seeing inside stage and you go out for me,
22:47
Speaker 2: and you walk out, and we're gonna go see TR's
22:50
Speaker 2: face when you walk out in my fucking extensions and
22:53
Speaker 2: start singing this song, okay, and then during the chorus, I'm.
22:56
Speaker 3: Gonna walk out dressed as you.
22:58
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get a little mustache on and all that thing,
23:01
Speaker 2: maybe even drow some abs on. I'm gonna walk out,
23:04
Speaker 2: and then we're both gonna be on stage with him,
23:05
Speaker 2: dressed up as each other and sing this song together.
23:08
Speaker 2: And he's like At first he was like hell yeah,
23:11
Speaker 2: and then he was like, I don't know. Once the
23:12
Speaker 2: extensions came out, he was like I don't know, man,
23:15
Speaker 2: And then we tried them on in the bus.
23:16
Speaker 3: And he was like feeling himself. So I'm like, it's happening. Okay.
23:19
Speaker 2: Unfortunately that was a show that got lightning out, so
23:23
Speaker 2: it never happened. I know, I know, but it could
23:28
Speaker 2: still happen. And then I told tr about it and
23:30
Speaker 2: he was so upset because that was so funny. But
23:32
Speaker 2: the good news is I have a picture of Tucker
23:34
Speaker 2: with my extensions in so.
23:38
Speaker 1: You guys forever, yep, Hey, I appreciate you. Thanks for
23:41
Speaker 1: taking time to hang, Thanks for having me