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Hey, everybody, it's Jeff. We wanted to let you know that we
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recorded this podcast episode on Monday, November twenty seven, twenty twenty three,
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so by the time you hear this, some things may have changed, but
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we hope you enjoyed the show. All right, everybody, you're listening to
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Table Talk here at the Philadelphia Sports Table podcast show, the longest running weekly
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Philly sports podcast show in the world. That's right over ten and a half
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years strong. We got a great discussion coming your way on Table Talk this
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week. We're gonna be getting into a book that our guest wrote and the
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ins and outs of team building within the National Football League. That's right.
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You know this gentleman. He's been on the show before. He was a
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great guest, but we wanted to get his book out there a little bit
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more, not only in the world of Philly sports, but the sports world
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in general, just because he's been diving into what team building really means and
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how teams are successful and not successful in the NFL as it pertains to team
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buildings, So something we don't talk a lot about, but we're certainly going
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to be getting into it during this Table Talk show. So let's get right
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to that discussion now. And it is great to have back on the show.
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I absolutely love talking to him, and specifically about his book that is
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out now, The Inches we Need, and you can head on over to
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The Inches we Need dot Com to check out the book, order it and
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it's really a great, great concept, and again I love having them on.
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Dave Archibald, how you doing, buddy, It's good to have you
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back on the show. I'm doing great, Jeff, awesome to be here.
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It's great to have you and folks, if you're not following Dave on
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Twitter at Dave Archie, you can get all the stuff that he's doing over
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there on Twitter. But I know you're doing some writing as well aside from
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the book, Dave, so tell everybody where they can find you on the
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interwebs out there. Yeah, I've been writing for NFL spin Zone and I've
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been doing a series of off season previews going from mostly from the worst teams
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to the best. So I won't get to the Eagles for a while,
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but you know, yeah, where the Eagles are a ten and one team
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and they're getting criticism that they're not blowing out teams like they did last year.
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Yet they're ten and one. Anyway, that's a subject for a different
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time for sure, and we're definitely looking forward to that content from you in
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the future, Dave. But if you can, like I said, you
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know, we wanted to promote your book here the inches we need tell us
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about your book and how it distinguishes itself from you know, other football based
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books, and you know why you just decided to write it in the first
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place. I think I think those questions kind of go together because I think
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I decided to write it because the book I wanted to read didn't exist.
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There are a lot of great books on team building, but largely from looking
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at one team or one person's experience. You know, the Michael hollybooks are
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great, Bill Walsh's Finding the Winning Edge, Michae Lombardi's book, Bill Pollian's.
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I really wanted to build an all encompassing look at team building, and
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that was difficult to do because there are a lot of different successful approaches.
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So I tried to tie the successful team building strategies I saw into these broader
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principles and then really developed those through quotes and references and case studies throughout the
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book, so you could dig in on stuff like the Rams trading away their
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first round picks every year and seeing, okay, what are the pieces of
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that that worked well, what did they do to compliment that approach that was
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smart? And then what were the drawbacks to doing that, which I think
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we saw last year when they endowed giving away the sixth overall pick yep,
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and really kind of explore as many different angles as I could on a lot
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of different examples, developing those court principles and let the reader learn and draw
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their own conclusions. Well, when you look at the case studies that you
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did with regard to the book, what do you are there any or is
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there one maybe that was really prevalent to you that really stood out which was
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really really interesting in terms of you know that case study with regard to team
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building, do you is there one that really sticks out to you? One
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I like because it develops a lot of the court principles directly is the Seattle
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Seahawks, because they built that legion of boom defense pretty inexpensively. I mean
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a lot of those guys who were laid around picks, Richard Sherman, Cam
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Chancellor, Brandon Browner, they fished out of the Canadian Football League and what
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ended up happening to them. So I think that that really the success they
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had really shows a lot of the core principles because they had something they were
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doing that was different than other teams. They really had a consistent approach to
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the kinds of defensive those big defensive backs they were looking for that no one
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else was looking for, those spark measurables guys in the late rounds that no
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one was looking for. And the other piece that's interesting to me is it
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didn't endure beyond that great four or five year stretch in part because so many
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other teams started copying them or their coaches got hired elsewhere, and now they
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couldn't find the discounts on those kind of players because instead of them being the
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only team that was looking for them, now you got six or seven teams
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looking for them. Yes, So I think as far as examples go,
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and there's a lot of interesting examples in the book, but I think that
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one really encompasses a lot of those core principles. I think that's interesting.
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We're going to get into this specific principle and just a little bit called change
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and adapt. You know, something that you have discussed and written about as
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well. We're gonna get into that in a little bit, but that's certainly
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what you're talking about with regard to the Seattle Seahawks and other teams adapting to
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the league changing over the course of years. But like I said, we'll
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get to that in just a bit. But I'm wondering, you know,
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as we look at this current NFL season, we see some teams falter,
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we see some teams succeed. I mean when you look at a team like
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the Philadelphia Eagles who are ten and one, and then a team like the
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Carolina Panthers, who are one in ten and they just fired their head coach
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about half an hour before we jumped on this podcast here, I think it's
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safe to assume that the ten and one teams are more successful strictly because of
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team building, Dave, Or could it just be that the Eagles are more
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talented team than the Panthers, or maybe is it a combination of both.
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You know, what are your thoughts with regard to this, Well, I
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think talent is a part of team building and assembling talent. The Panthers I
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think did some good things in this offseason. You know, Frank Reich was
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a well respected higher obviously did great things in Philadelphia. I imagine Eagles fans
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think of him fondly, and he had a good track record In Indianapolis.
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They built a really respected coaching staff behind him, with some young up and
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comers as the coordinators and some veteran position coaches and assistants. I think,
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you know, a couple of different things they kind of create. You know,
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it's getting near the holidays, so I'm reminded of the o Henry story
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Gift to the MAGII. Do you remember that one where the wife sells her
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hair to buy a chain for her husband's pocket watch, but he sells his
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pocket watch to buy her combs. And it was kind of the same thing
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for the Panthers. They they really wanted a quarterback, and to get the
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quarterback, they had to give away the only good receiver they had in DJ
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Moore, And they gave away what looks like it's going to be the first
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pick or certainly a top five pick. So how are they going to build
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a support staff around around Bryce Young? And it's obviously a big contrast from
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Philadelphia, where I think Jalen Hurts get inserted to a situation where they already
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had a very good offensive line, one of the best in the league,
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and then they really hammered wide receiver and built infrastructure around him. Yep.
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I think the other thing you have to look at here is ownership. You
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know, Jeffrey Lurry is a great reputation. He's someone who's giving he holds
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him to high standards, but he's always giving them resources and support. And
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you know, whenever I look at a coach fired less than a year in
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and there's no like scandals. Yeah, I got I gotta think, like,
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you know, how much patience is ownership showing how much commitment do they
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have to seeing the vision through. I think Tepper has already built something of
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a reputation for meddling. Yeah, and he's been willing to spend I mean,
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this coaching staff had to be expensive to put together. He paid Matt
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Rule a ton of money. But you wonder if he's giving that some of
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those advantages away by plugging himself into the process too much. Absolutely, It's
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a good segue into the next topic I wanted to get into with you,
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Dave, which basically is, you know, we look at team building and
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when we know you know, we reflect on your book the inches we need.
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Do you think that team building really manifests itself in the NFL within the
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front offices or the actual team themselves, like the players, whether they're in
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the locker room or whether they're going out to dinner once or twice a week
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with each other or doing whatever it is outside the confines of the locker room
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to really enhance their relationships. And I remember when you were on before we
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talked specifically about the building of relationships, you know, between coaches and players,
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relationships in general, and how important that is to the world of team
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building here. But you know, I do wonder because I look at Howie
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Roseman, who has been an exceptional GM, and front office guy Jeffrey Lurry,
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he was meddling a few years ago, and I think he's kind of
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taken a step back from that. And I think when you see owners meddling
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a little too much, the things got to go off the rail. So
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I'm wondering, like, where you actually think the team building within the NFL
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really manifests itself. Is it within the front offices or is with actually the
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players and perhaps coaches do or maybe a combination. What are your thoughts.
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I think a big you know, one of the core principles is alignment.
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I mean, it's all gonna be, it's all gonna work together. I've
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an anecdote in there about when Belichick took over the Browns and even like the
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coaching staff, I mean the college scouting and the pro scouting, who were
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all doing scouting, they didn't have the same system. Yeah, so that
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was one of the first things you had to do is build that kind of
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system. So I think, you know, within your front office, you've
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got to be aligned. Within the between the front office and the coaching staff,
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you've got to be aligned. And then you know, the players follow
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from that. I mean, the players are the only ones on the field.
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So ultimately, everything you know, the front office or the coaching staff
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does has to manifest itself in the players on the field, or it's it's
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not gonna it's not going to be successful. And so I think probably the
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immediate impacts or more, you know, in the front office and staff,
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but that's gotta that's got to end up manifesting itself on the field too,
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or you know, it's not it's not going to produce wins and losses.
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Yeah, absolutely something. There's a team we're going to talk about in a
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little bit, and that is the New England Patriots. I'm gonna ask you
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about them a little bit. But what I find interesting about looking at the
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Patriots today and reflecting on that dynasty is how I actually thought for years and
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years that Robert Craft and through Bill Belichick as well, just understood team building
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to such a great extent. And I think perhaps perhaps we are seeing now
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that you know what, maybe they didn't. Maybe it really was Tom Brady
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that was the glue holding everything together for all those years because of his greatness
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in so many ways. As much as it pains me to say that,
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quite frankly, but you know, I wonder if sometimes we get a little
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fooled, you know, we may get fooled as fans like I was thinking
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that it was Robert Craft and really Bill Belichick able to take a team and
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create that dynasty, and of course they were part of it. But we
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look at what's happening with the New England Patriots now. They can't figure out
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their quarterback situation. They've got just a number of adverse issues on the field,
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and you know, the things that are happening, of course, behind
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the scenes of where the direction of this team is going to go in the
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future. Dave, And I don't know. I'm not sure now if Robert
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Kraft and even Bill Belichick have a really great grasp on team building. Quite
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frankly, and maybe I'm out of line with regard to, you know,
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my hypothesis here, but you know, what are your thoughts with regard to
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that. Jeff, First, I'm a Patriots fan, so this, oh,
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like a dagger in my home. I'm so sorry. I swear to
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God, I forgot. I completely forgot that you're a Patriots fan, so,
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gosh sorry. I think, first of all, it's definitely easier if
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you have Tom Brady, right, I mean, oh yeah, He's going
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to make a lot work better. You don't have to continually spend resources chasing
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a quarterback, which is I think something that plagues a lot of teams and
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looks like it's going to be plaguing the Patriots now. But I do think,
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you know, Belichick and Craft or been the model for a lot of
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these teams, holding principles, especially changing and adapting the ways. The Patriots
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moved from three four to four to three in back from July to one high
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and back. I think that's fair being innovative. It's spread and two tight
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ends. But and I think, you know, people criticize the Belichick coaching
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tree, but his GM tree actually is pretty successful. I think with you
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know, Dematroff came from there, and then Less Snead came from Dematrof and
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Jason light who won a Super Bowl a few years ago. And even if
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you look at some of the scouting departments that were built out of former Patriots
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and Ravens, which I mean Nausie Newsome grew under Belichick. Obviously he's the
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best example I think you've seen. You know, you look at San Francisco,
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right, they have a great well John Lynch was never a scout.
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Who's their top scout. It's Adam Peters. Where did he start? New
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England? And so I think they're I think their approach has been very successful,
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not just Tom Brady, but you Belichick's seventy one years old. Yeah,
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most people are retired by now. And you know, again we'll talk
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about him a little later, but maybe he's not the best one to be
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changing and adapting at this point in his career. I think that's interesting for
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sure, And yeah, let's definitely get into him in a little bit here
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and again, folks, we're talking to Dave Archibald. Find him on Twitter
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at Dave Archie. He's a great, great follow and we keep talking hearing
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about that phrase change and adapt. It's something that I'm hoping you can get
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into a little bit more here as it relates to you know, what we've
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seen in the NFL. You know, something you've written about in your book,
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Dave. You know, how do you see NFL teams adapting to change
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more and more as we are here in twenty twenty three? And I would
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imagine a lot of teams out there are looking at the Philadelphia Eagles perhaps at
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this particular point in time, being that they have had back to back seasons
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where they're ten and one. They're doing something right at least in twenty twenty
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two and twenty twenty three here. So how are teams changing and adapting as
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we're moving along here? I recently hosted a Zoom team building round table and
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one of the things we discussed is defensive trends. And I think a lot
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of the interesting things happening are defensive now. It's been a little bit of
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a down year for offense, and I think as you've seen the offenses develop,
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there is a lot of throwing out of heavy personnel and running out of
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light you know, light formations and personnel, and so I think there are
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a couple of different adaptations that we're seeing. One is these hybrid defensive players
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who are maybe they're kind of slot corners, they're sort of safeties, they're
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sort of linebackers, but they've got to be able to defend, you know,
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receivers in the slot who may or may not be traditional slot receivers,
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tight ends, running backs, but they've also got to play run gaps.
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That's a lot of different, diverse responsibilities. I think we're seeing more of
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those players in the NFL and more teams using them interestingly. But the other
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thing I think is kind of coming back to some of these big bodies up
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front. We both watched the Eagles game last night. I think the story
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of the game kind of was the Josh Allen scrambles in overtime and Jordan Davis,
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who is a first round pick two years ago, he chases him out
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of bounds and it ends up being it looked when he took off it looked
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like a first down, and he ended up only getting the four or five
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yards and they ended up having to settle for the field goal. And then
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Jalen Hurts similar kind of look, you know, a spread look, and
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the Bills open the middle of the field and he just ran for the touchdown
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in overtime. If teams are going to use these spread concepts, and you
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know, necessarily the defense is going to have to spread out in response,
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You've only got six guys in the box. You're going to have to figure
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out how you're going to defend the run with six guys in the box,
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especially with some of these mobile quarterbacks like Allen and Hurts. And I think
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one of the solutions is if you have big guys like Jordan Davis and Jalen
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Carter who can control two gaps and you know, change the map defensively against
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the run game. That's and I don't think anyone understands that better than the
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Eagles on both sides the ball, the way that they use Hurts as a
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runner and the way, you know, the way they've used their first round
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picks the last couple of years. Yeah, and the other thing I wanted
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to talk about is special teams because the rule changes I think have reduced the
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impact of returners and coverage players. But you only really take advantage of that
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if your punter and your kicker can take the ball out of those guys' hands
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and kickoffs and punts. And the other thing is there are more fifty plus
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yard field goals now than there ever have been. And again we saw that
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yesterday Jake Elliott hits that fifty nine yarder at the end of regulation. Eagles
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lose that game. Ten years ago, no one is kicking fifty nine yarders.
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Yeah, but you know that if you have really good specialists, that's
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absolutely a weapon nowadays. Absolutely. I love where you're going with that.
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And it's interesting to think if the running back game is where a running game,
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I should say, with regard to running backs is going to, you
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know, quote make a resurgence at some point down the road based on how
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defenses need to adapt to the to these spread offenses. I think it's a
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really interesting topic. And uh, as we're moving along here, Dave,
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I wanted to talk about some teams that are team building the right way,
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some teams that are team building the wrong way. So I got a few
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teams here for you, and I'd like for you to let us know if
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they're team building the right way or their team building the wrong way. And
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just a brief explanation as to why let's start off with the New York Jets
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here are they team building the right way or the wrong way at this point?
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Well, first I should point out, you know, Joe Douglas.
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I think Eagles fans should think of him fondly too. I belise, yeah,
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I don't. I don't know if people realize this. I don't think
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I realized this until I started researching the book. But the Eagles had a
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ton of front office turnover between the end of the read years and uh,
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you know when how we got back into power post Chip Kelly and Joe Douglas
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had a big hand in rebuilding that that scouting staff. But I mean his
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Jets tenure hasn't been the best. Let's say, Zach Wilson certainly didn't deliver,
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and I think Wilson struggled so much that it kind of clouded the perception
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of the supporting cast. I think there was this idea like, oh,
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just plug in Aaron Rodgers and this is going to be a great team,
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and I think if you look at them, you know, the defense is
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still quite good, but the offensive line is pretty bad. I don't think
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they have a lot of receivers outside of Garrett Wilson, you know. I
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obviously it's it's very much a struggle with Zach Wilson. It was a Tim
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Boyle who started last game. But I don't think this would have been a
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great offense even with Aaron Rodgers. I think there's still quite a bit of
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work to do, and there's some question at this point as to whether Joe
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Douglas is going to be the person to see it through. All right,
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Well, let's move on to a team we were just talking about a few
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minutes ago, your New England Patriots. Are they team building the right way
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here or do you think they're going in the wrong direction? What do you
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think? Well, it's pretty tough at two and nine to argue that they're
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going in the right direction. I think. I think one of the things
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that happened is historically they were able to It's kind of what we talked about
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with the Legion of Boom just on the offensive side. I mean, they
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had a great run of offenses and it was largely by investing in less valued
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positions. Like they always had great slot receivers. They always had great tight
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ends, especially the last you know, half of the decade with Gronkowski and
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Aaron Hernandez for a little while. But you know, I think a lot
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of the league has caught up to that. I think the tight ends,
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the top tight ends are making a lot more money. The top slot receivers
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are making a ton more money and getting drafted higher. It's harder to find
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values there. And I don't think they've made the adjustments to find a new
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inch. They need, you know, a new competitive edge anywhere on offense.
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They tried to go with the two tight end thing by paying Hunter Henry
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and Johnny Smith a lot of money. That didn't work out. And you
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know, for a long time they were ahead of the league. They were
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just like two steps ahead of everybody. And now I think they're two steps
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behind. Like I said before, Belichick's seventy one seventy two. For all
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his greatness over the years, it's tough to maintain at that age, and
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ye, you know, I'm not sure he's the right person to be making
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the decisions moving forward. All right, let's move on to the Chicago Bears.
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Here a team that you know, I thought was going to be giving
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us a little bit more this year. And of course Justin f Yields dealing
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with an injury, hasn't necessarily developed. How use NFL fans wanted to see
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him develop. But what do you think? Are they building the right way
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or the wrong way here? So I just wrote them up for NFL spin
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Zone in my off season preview, and I think after I wrote it,
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I said to the Slack channel there, I was like, this is the
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first team I think I've written about that. I don't hate what they're doing.
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I actually think they're set up pretty well, even though obviously the on
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field results haven't been there under Ryan Poles and Fields has a lot of questions.
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But they've got that first round pick from Carolina that's looking like that's going
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to be a really high pick. They're gonna have another high pick. Their
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cap situation is really good. They added DJ Moore, who looks like a
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centerpiece Montes Sweat. Maybe they overpaid, but he should be probably their best
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defensive player. And they've got a lot of young guys from their past couple
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drafts who are contributing and not a lot of guys that they need to re
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sign. They've got real holes, But that's almost easier to deal with than
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if you've a bunch of okay guys that you've got to upgrade. You know,
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it's a lot easier to go from terrible to average than it is to
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go from average to excellence. And a lot of what they need to do
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is go from terrible to average. Yep, they've still got to get quarterback,
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right. I think the fields experiment has probably played out at this point.
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And Matt Aberflus, I mean, his calling card is supposed to be
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defense, and their defense is bottom of the barrel, so I think they
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might need to make a move there. But I like a lot of what
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Ryan Poles has done, and I think they're set up where with a few
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right moves, they can you know, maybe not twenty twenty four, but
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they can set themselves up for twenty twenty five, twenty twenty six. Yeah,
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it'll be interesting to see for sure. I got a couple more teams
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for you here, Dave. Next, the dirty, dirty Dallas Cowboys.
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What do you think are they building their team the right way? Here?
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The wrong way? What do you think so, I'm obviously a big fan.
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I'm my school is Rice University. Okay, the Cowboys vice president of
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player personnel, Will McLay is a Rice owl, so I got to give
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that. You have props to him. You know, their team is very
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good. They have the best point differential in the league. I know they
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haven't played the best schedule. I think with them, it always seems like
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they have the star power and the question is do they have enough complimentary pieces
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to fill it out? And until they make a playoff run, I mean
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it's hard to have a lot of faith in them. But on paper,
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I mean they're right up there with uh, you know, Philly and San
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Francisco as far as as contenders. But you know, we kind of got
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to see it at this point, I think, yeah, all right.
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And finally, last team before we get into our last topic, the Minnesota
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Vikings a team that I always find to be very interesting, quite frankly,
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because they are a team you think that's always going to get over the hump.
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They're team building the right way, but sometimes you just have to wonder
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are they team building the right way or the wrong way? Yeah, it's
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interesting. You know they hired Kuaisiadolfamensa a couple of years ago, and he's
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really the first pure analytics higher you know, obviously Howie Roseman and Sashi Brown,
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a couple others have been analytics savvy, but they came up through the
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cap side. Quasi Adolfa Mensa is the first guy who actually get hired into
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and spent most of his career doing analytics. And I think their team building
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has not especially reflected them through two years. It seems like they're kind of
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I don't think they've had a ton of room to maneuver in terms of,
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you know, their cap situation, but I kind of expected them to be
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more innovative. So I'm interested to see this offseason if we see something more
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interesting happening. They have a real pivotal offseason. Their highest paid player on
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both sides the ball, Kirk Cousins and Danil Hunter, are both free agents,
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so they're very much up in the air. I think they have a
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great offensive infrastructure. I mean, they have two really good tackles in Christian
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Dearisa and Brian O'Neil. They have two really good receivers and Justin Jefferson and
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Jordan Addison. But you know, they need to figure out what quarterback looks
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like. And I don't know, it'll be interesting. They're definitely what I'm
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keeping an eye on. Absolutely again, folks, talking to Dave Archibald.
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over there after you get done listening to this. So I just wanted to
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end with what we've been most intrigued about here in terms of this NFL season,
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Dave, you know, an intriguing storyline or what you think is one
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of the most intriguing, And for me, like, I'm going to go
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back to a conversation that I had with one of our mutual friends, Mark
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Schofield from SB Nation. You know, Mark and I talked just a few
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weeks after after the season started, and he was like, you know,
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Jeff, you know, we were having a great conversation about where the league
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was going. He said, I think it's going to be a defensive type
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of season, and you essentially mentioned that earlier in our discussion here. You
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know, we are seeing more of a defensive year than an offensive year.
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I think from so many teams, defense is really winning games for teams as
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well. For me, that's one of the most intriguing aspects of this season
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because of where the NFL wanted to take offenses, and they want offenses to
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be so dominant, and they have been for quite some time. The passing
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game. We know the evolution of that particular aspect of the offensive game and
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what that's meant over the years. But I just think the defensive side of
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things right now is the most intriguing storyline here in twenty twenty three. So
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for you, Dave, what's been the most intriguing storyline for you this NFL
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season thus far? Well, I think I think mine is kind of related
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to that, and that's the AFC falling off, especially the quarterbacks. I
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think going into the year, the story was like the NFC is Jalen hurts
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and maybe Dak and all the other good quarterbacks are in the AFC. And
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now I'm looking, you know, Rogers is hurt, Joe Burrow is hurt.
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Justin Herbert's chargers of four and seven, Josh Allen's bills are six and
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six. I mean the bills of the second best point differential in the AFC
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and they might not even make the playoffs. It's incredible. Yeah, yeah,
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it's even the Chiefs. I mean the Chiefs, a lot of what
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they're doing is with defense. Their offense has really taking a step back.
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Their complementary receivers aren't there. So, you know, Miami, I think
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is the one that's that's high flying, and the Ravens too. But I
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think it's interesting to me that the reality hasn't matched the perception with respect to
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the strength of the conferences there and in the NFC. I mean, we've
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got that real Donnybrook. I think forming at the top, the forty nine
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Ers, the Eagles, the Cowboys, and the Lions. They look they
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look pretty tough too. I thought they would. I thought, you know,
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generally I fade teams that like have that big improvement. People seem to
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think they'll keep improving and a lot of times they fall back to earth.
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And it's been really cool to see the Lions fuck that trend and continue their
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upward tjectory. A lot of the rookies they drafted are paying big dividends early,
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and it's really cool to see it. Absolutely is. It's an interesting
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NFL season and an interesting book as well, The Inches we Need. Head
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on over to The Inches we Need dot com. He is Dave Archibald and
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find him on Twitter at David Archie. Buddy. Thanks so much for coming
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on jumping on talking NFL team building. Was great to see and let's talk
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more down the road, my friend. Sounds awesome, Jeff, I had
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a great time. Thank you. A very interesting conversation with Dave, and
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I gotta say, it really has been an interesting NFL season. I think
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a lot of us came into it, and I love the point that he
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made toward the end of our discussion about how the AFC was supposed to be
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this powerhouse and it's really not what we're seeing. I mean, especially with
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regard to the Kansas City Chiefs and that team from a team building perspective,
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what they hadn't done during the off season, which really is impacting their offense
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to this day. We saw it with the Philadelphia Eagles game when they were
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out in Kansas City facing that Chiefs team. The defense absolutely stout, but
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Patrick Mahomes just having some difficulty with those receivers. You can still see that
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chemistry not one hundred percent there I don't know if chemistry is always one hundred
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percent there with any quarterback to receiver, but I mean unless you're Tom Brady.
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So it's really interesting to see where team building has gone with so many
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NFL teams during the course of this season and what it means for their futures.
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So again, thanks so much Dave for jumping on the podcast, and
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