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09/25/26 - Hour 2 · The Huddle

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  Speaker 1: Rolling through a Friday in the good land. It's the
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  Speaker 1: huddle Fox sports radio, Wisconsin. You're a friendly three musketeers,
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  Speaker 1: drew Billy and Armin bringing it to you. No sleep.
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  Speaker 2: Who needs it?
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  Speaker 1: We're talking about the Packers. We're talking about the Brewers.
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  Speaker 1: We're talking about whatever you want to talk about on the, uh,
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  Speaker 1: Nicolay law.com. Talk to text line. Eight, seven, seven, seven, nine, four,
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  Speaker 1: one 97, three Packers getting to, to coin a phrase.
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  Speaker 2: They got debacled last night.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That's well put, uh, drew as well put.
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  Speaker 1: They're O and two with an option. They could have
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  Speaker 1: been O and three. They went to overtime to beat
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  Speaker 1: the jets and had to come from behind to do it.
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  Speaker 1: They've been carved up by Carson Wentz, Gino Smith, and
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  Speaker 1: now Michael Penix Jr. In his first game back in what?
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  Speaker 1: Almost a year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. 317, uh, odd days.
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  Speaker 4: It had been since he had played a football game, drew,
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  Speaker 4: and instead he throws, uh, puts up 35 points, the
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  Speaker 4: most allowed in a home season opener, uh, by the
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  Speaker 4: Packers since 1971. And they've now also what in those
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  Speaker 4: two games, Minnesota and Atlanta, an average of 37 points.
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  Speaker 4: The only one that you're able to keep under 20
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  Speaker 4: is the jets. And with those kinds of numbers, it's
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  Speaker 4: going to be really, really difficult. to ever claim once again,
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  Speaker 4: that this is a really, really good defense and that
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  Speaker 4: they're going to win a lot of games because of them.
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  Speaker 2: I would point out this, this is an oddity.
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  Speaker 4: Probably the third game with each having 150 scrimmage yards,
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  Speaker 4: unless ESPN is lying. That's the most by any duo
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  Speaker 4: in NFL history. of Bijan Robinson and Drake London. I
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  Speaker 4: don't know that that equates to winning because they haven't
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  Speaker 4: done any of that in their career, but it sure
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  Speaker 4: as hell worked last night. I mean a buck 94
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  Speaker 4: a piece and it was systematic. The 10 targets and
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  Speaker 4: nine catches for Drake London drew. I'm not going to
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  Speaker 4: say it was room service, but But he felt like
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  Speaker 4: a quick trip in Belgium that we stop at on 43.
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  Speaker 2: Always open last night.
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  Speaker 5: Always open.
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  Speaker 1: Always.
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  Speaker 2: Always making plays. Well, the thing is, obviously, you knew
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  Speaker 2: those were the talented, skilled guys in their offense. Obviously, Bijan, right?
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  Speaker 3: But I think it's the extreme to which you had
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  Speaker 3: trouble with them that was frustrating. We talked about earlier
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  Speaker 3: in the first hour, you thought this defense was going
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  Speaker 3: to be better equipped to stop the run the way
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  Speaker 3: they had done it. Okay, the first two weeks of
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  Speaker 3: all the problems the Packers have had, that wasn't one,
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  Speaker 3: stopping the run. So you're like, Bijan's talented, okay. But
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  Speaker 3: did I think he was going to start touching cloth
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  Speaker 3: on 200?
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  Speaker 2: I didn't. You know, I just, I wasn't expecting that.
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  Speaker 3: Drake London, you know, last thing you saw the Falcons
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  Speaker 3: receiving core yelling at fans, fighting with people. Cause they
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  Speaker 3: couldn't get the ball at all. Talking about why, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you know, just, just absolutely a mess on the sideline.
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  Speaker 3: Next thing you know, he goes out and shows people
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  Speaker 3: why he has all that talent, but it's like. You
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  Speaker 3: had to let him dominate that much that easy, just
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  Speaker 3: running free all over the place. And that was the
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  Speaker 3: frustration about it is, you know, the Falcons were the
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  Speaker 3: team that you think the Packers are going to come
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  Speaker 3: back after that Jets game, maybe your home opener. You
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  Speaker 3: just get that win. Okay, now we circle the wagons.
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  Speaker 3: Now we see the chicken soup team a little bit
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  Speaker 3: or what you thought was that. This is the team
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  Speaker 3: that should show the energy, show the fight, be prepared,
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  Speaker 3: have energy, be organized, maybe establish a game in the trenches.
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  Speaker 2: And it was the opposite. It was the Falcons that
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  Speaker 2: were energized. The Falcons that came.
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  Speaker 3: Back from their debacle in their 0-2 start and put
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  Speaker 3: the debacle on us. And I think that was the
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  Speaker 3: part that was confusing, frustrating, and hard to make sense of.
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  Speaker 3: Could I have seen the Packers lose last night?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, of course. But not like that. I didn't see
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  Speaker 2: that happen.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 1: Not to be completely overmatched and basically uncompetitive as they were.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Um, here's one for you. This is, uh, comes via
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  Speaker 1: Twitter from a fellow named Mike Renner. Billy familiar with
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  Speaker 1: his work.
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  Speaker 2: I'm familiar with his, uh, work on the bachelor.
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  Speaker 1: CBS sports, NFL draft analyst, Reiner bowl scout.
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  Speaker 2: Mm. Mm.
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  Speaker 1: That's, uh, he replied, he was a quote, Twitter, Rob Demofsky.
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  Speaker 3: Really?
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  Speaker 6: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: He was, that's cool. Oh, nice.
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  Speaker 1: Um, He wasn't scamming people on fantasy leagues or anything,
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  Speaker 1: was he?
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  Speaker 4: No, not that I remember. I don't think he was
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  Speaker 4: good enough, Drew. I think he tried to talk all
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  Speaker 4: 22 with her, and she's like, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm not interested.
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  Speaker 3: He wouldn't be the first one that went from a
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  Speaker 3: bachelor to a football analyst career.
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  Speaker 2: All right, go ahead, Drew.
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  Speaker 7: Sorry.
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  Speaker 1: He had a first guess last night because Rob Domofsky
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  Speaker 1: tweeted out the Packers offensive line, the starting offensive line,
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  Speaker 1: because we weren't sure which way they were going to
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  Speaker 1: go until they did. but it was Jordan Morgan at
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  Speaker 1: left tackle, Jagger Burton at left guard, his first start,
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  Speaker 1: Sean Ryan at center, and then they had Jacob Monk
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  Speaker 1: at guard and Anthony Belton at right tackle on the
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  Speaker 1: right side. Domofsky pointed it out and Mike Renner replied
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  Speaker 1: and said, the Packers have a guard playing center, two
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  Speaker 1: centers playing guard and two guards playing tackle. Now that's
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  Speaker 1: in the eyes of a draft guy, but is that a,
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  Speaker 1: Billy is that a legitimate point that he made? Cause
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  Speaker 1: those guys have dabbled at those positions.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, listen, I don't know where like Burton played
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  Speaker 4: all over the place in college. I think some people
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  Speaker 4: thought though that he would probably play center and maybe
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  Speaker 4: guard just to get on the field. Monk was playing
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  Speaker 4: center pretty much exclusively in college. played summit guard just
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  Speaker 4: before he took over that job. But then, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I still believe tackle is the most natural position for
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  Speaker 4: Belton and Morgan. Now it's tough to see the way
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  Speaker 4: Belton played it last night. It's hard to see that's
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  Speaker 4: the full natural one. But I think with time, Morgan's
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  Speaker 4: going to continue to improve.
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  Speaker 2: I get it. It's his third year in the league.
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  Speaker 2: It is his third start there.
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  Speaker 4: Like there's going to be, you have to give some
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  Speaker 4: kind of time to be able to grow into the
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  Speaker 4: player you'll be. That being said, Drew, these guys got
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  Speaker 4: to grow up real quick, especially with like, and there's
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  Speaker 4: a lot of conversation back and forth. Jerry and a
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  Speaker 4: plow truck listed out all the top picks. that have,
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  Speaker 4: you know, maybe been swings and misses some that are good.
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  Speaker 4: Some that are not for, for Brian Gutekunst, like this
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  Speaker 4: is a Matt Lafleur or Brian Gutekunst problem.
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  Speaker 2: Who is the blame? It can be a yes.
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  Speaker 4: All things can be true, but the only way that
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  Speaker 4: they're going to get out of it is some of
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  Speaker 4: these ending up hitting and Jagger Burton last night, wild
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  Speaker 4: tough to watch at times. did have a couple of
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  Speaker 4: nice moments and you're going to have to look and
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  Speaker 4: they're going to have to try and grasp at the
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  Speaker 4: slight positives. Because Drew, the thing is like a lot
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  Speaker 4: of people want you to go in there scorched earth
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  Speaker 4: and this guy's going to get ripped up and then
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  Speaker 4: they're going to bring in four new players. If they
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  Speaker 4: had four new players on the waiver wire to be
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  Speaker 4: able to grab, that would be markedly better.
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  Speaker 2: They would all be on rosters.
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  Speaker 4: You're going to have to now somehow be able to
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  Speaker 4: work through and around your offensive line problem. And it
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  Speaker 4: can be like driving a car with a bad engine.
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  Speaker 4: There's just going to be days where that thing is
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  Speaker 4: not going to rev up. And if you rev it once,
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  Speaker 4: it's going to be hard to rev it again. It's
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  Speaker 4: going to be a very, very hot and cold and
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  Speaker 4: very streaky unit.
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  Speaker 1: Because we were driving back, Billy, we didn't have time.
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  Speaker 1: As some of our crazy colleagues have already watched the
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  Speaker 1: all 22, they've rewatched this game. It's not going to
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  Speaker 1: get any prettier.
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  Speaker 2: No way.
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  Speaker 1: It was hideous in real time, both because we were
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  Speaker 1: watching it in person, kind of on TV. We had
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  Speaker 1: a good setup last night because of the Amazon thing.
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  Speaker 1: For some reason, the delay wasn't as stark and you
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  Speaker 1: could watch a play live. And as they were, as
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  Speaker 1: they're unpiling the players, you look and it's the place
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  Speaker 1: unfolding on, on the laptop in front of me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So it was kind of like double vision.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: We didn't have like a 20 second delay, but someone
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  Speaker 1: on the talk and text line and I can't find it.
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  Speaker 1: And I apologize because it's, you know, just general fatigue
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  Speaker 1: and sluggishness. Someone had said, I were discounting the emotional
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  Speaker 1: damage to use Armand's favorite phrase, emotional damage of the
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  Speaker 1: blocked field goal. And yeah, you would have liked to
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  Speaker 1: have had three points there, but then you say it's
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  Speaker 1: going to be even more emotionally damaging when you watch
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  Speaker 1: the film and see that Atlanta had 10 players on
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  Speaker 1: the field and blocked the kick with 10 guys on
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  Speaker 1: the field.
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  Speaker 4: 10 guys on the field, unless they have some kind
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  Speaker 4: of miracle dude that's standing in the back trying to
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  Speaker 4: Nathan Vasher the thing and take it back for 109 yards. No,
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  Speaker 4: they had 10 guys on the field and just jumped
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  Speaker 4: right through your gap and maybe shoved your face into
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  Speaker 4: the dirt. Yeah, it was Marcus in Iowa. We underestimated
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  Speaker 4: the demoralizing factors. He had a couple of good ones
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  Speaker 4: in here as well. It added to what was the
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  Speaker 4: most frustrating part of the night where I did, even
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  Speaker 4: though when we did on the line, I had picked
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  Speaker 4: the Packers and I thought that they would cover the
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  Speaker 4: four and a half.
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  Speaker 2: I did like that number.
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  Speaker 4: And I also liked the under the Falcons damn near
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  Speaker 4: covered it by themselves. I thought when they went for
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  Speaker 4: two drew to go up, 35, 14, if they punched
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  Speaker 4: another one and they might just go for it, they
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  Speaker 4: might just say, Matt gay, you're going to take the
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  Speaker 4: rest of the night off. We, we see you haven't
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  Speaker 4: been warmed up. We're just going to go for two
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  Speaker 4: and just embarrass these cats. You did realize that special
• 9:24
  Speaker 4: teams can still be very much a work in progress,
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  Speaker 4: even though it felt like it had been fixed. The
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  Speaker 4: defense that you thought you were hanging your hat on
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  Speaker 4: was a massive problem. The things that you knew about,
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  Speaker 4: were going to be a struggle were, but the ones
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  Speaker 4: that you counted on me, maybe being at least a
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  Speaker 4: little bit of a calling card ended up being a
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  Speaker 4: wart last night.
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  Speaker 5: Good Lord.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: And when things have gone bad for this team, they've
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  Speaker 3: gone bad at the worst opportune times through three games.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, such momentum shifters, uh, the roughing the, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you're up seven, nothing. It was like a deja vu
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  Speaker 3: that Viking opener where you get the three and out
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  Speaker 3: you're about to get off the field. Okay, we can
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  Speaker 3: get the ball back. We had offensive momentum. Let's build
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  Speaker 3: on our lead. Boom, you know, they're roughing the passer.
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  Speaker 3: And then the big run ripped off right away by Bijan. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: you're trying to circle the wagons. He gets back to 10-7.
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  Speaker 3: We can tie it here. The block kick the worst
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  Speaker 3: opportune times. And the concerning part seems to be when
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  Speaker 3: these adverse things happen, this team is let, let it
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  Speaker 3: crush them.
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  Speaker 2: You can kind of see it emotionally.
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  Speaker 3: And maybe that's, you know, the, just the way we're
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  Speaker 3: feeling and we, and we pass it on to them,
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  Speaker 3: but it just feels like these, they crushed this team.
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  Speaker 2: Is it how we're feeling Armin?
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  Speaker 4: Or is it how, you know, and this is, I
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  Speaker 4: think a fair criticism and a fair critique of, of Lafleur.
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  Speaker 2: Is it how the coach feels?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And it passes on.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Like, I mean the, the, the pucker factor that can
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  Speaker 4: be felt in, you know, section one 20 last night,
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  Speaker 4: drew when they go down 17, seven, I think is
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  Speaker 4: quite probably palpable on the sideline as well for a
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  Speaker 4: team that kind of runs a little hot and cold.
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  Speaker 2: I saw Micah trying to coach harder than anybody last night.
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  Speaker 2: Not listening.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and, To Armand's point, it got so bad that
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: we had the body language police like Jordan Love should
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  Speaker 1: be getting in his teammates' faces, not sitting with a towel.
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  Speaker 7: Over his head.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, here we go with that stuff now, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, and Jordan Love, he has to play better.
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  Speaker 1: He's not playing well. He's not playing up to the
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  Speaker 1: standard that he has set even in recent years. But
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  Speaker 1: he's also never been hurried, and he's got a historically bad,
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  Speaker 1: or through three games anyway, we think, offensive line in
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  Speaker 1: front of him. 15 quick pressures last night, 17 in Minnesota.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Billy, you made a great point on Packers OT last
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  Speaker 1: night about the fact that LeFleur can't win because when
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  Speaker 1: they had quick changes and when they've had opportunities and
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  Speaker 1: when they've had drives that, okay, let's go, he'd run
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  Speaker 1: the ball twice, get nothing, and then be third and long. Well,
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  Speaker 1: last night there were a couple times when he threw
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  Speaker 1: the ball in first and second down, incomplete, and still
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  Speaker 1: in third and long.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, still in third.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, they get the pick last night right at midfield,
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  Speaker 4: and you think, boom, dial-up shot play. Well, they hit
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  Speaker 4: Tucker Kraft for a short gain. He was a check
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  Speaker 4: down because they couldn't block up for the shot play.
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  Speaker 4: Then they had another incomplete pass because they couldn't necessarily
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  Speaker 4: block up for the shot play. And then another incomplete pass,
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  Speaker 4: and boom, three and out, and you're punting it right back,
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  Speaker 4: and you're not able to capitalize. And again, your defense
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  Speaker 4: is right back on the field. And at that, that
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  Speaker 4: was the three possessions that it felt like you were
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  Speaker 4: holding your own. All right, let's get to some, some
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  Speaker 4: comments here. Mad city brew. It started before the block
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  Speaker 4: field goal, the BS call on the cube hit on
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  Speaker 4: the QB. Then the score that changed the game for Atlanta.
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  Speaker 4: That was our turning point last night. Absolutely crushing. But again,
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  Speaker 4: unable to withstand the, the, the blow is devastating. the
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  Speaker 4: biggest problem and unable to play somewhat of complimentary football.
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  Speaker 4: They've now, whether fair or foul, been called for the
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  Speaker 4: most penalties in football.
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  Speaker 2: I believe the most.
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  Speaker 4: Personal foul penalties in football and they've had a crushing
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  Speaker 4: one that again gives them a first down twice last
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  Speaker 4: night when Atlanta didn't need any help getting their 25
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  Speaker 4: first downs and I.
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  Speaker 3: Know I sound like a homer but I think they're
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  Speaker 3: getting picked on a little bit I mean it was
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  Speaker 3: so stark to see like Jordan Love get hit sandwiched
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  Speaker 3: right after they called the one on us now maybe
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  Speaker 3: it wasn't the same you go back and look with
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  Speaker 3: a clear head you say okay maybe there's a point
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  Speaker 3: there but It sure feels like a frustrating thing for
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  Speaker 3: the Packers to deal with these personal fouls.
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  Speaker 2: Will on YouTube. Will D, good morning, fellas.
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  Speaker 3: In three games, the Packers have 146 rushing yards total
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  Speaker 3: as a team. Bajon Robbins in 194 in one game
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  Speaker 3: against the Packers on the road. Oh, he has emotional
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  Speaker 3: damage right there when you put it that way.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: 17 yards is not going to cut it. That's the
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  Speaker 3: other thing about a passing game. It's very difficult to
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  Speaker 3: establish your passing attack when you can't protect and you
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  Speaker 3: can't run.
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  Speaker 2: And those... things are pretty stark right now for the
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  Speaker 2: green Bay Packers. Do they have to.
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  Speaker 3: Commit to the run more or is it just, it
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  Speaker 3: doesn't work.
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  Speaker 2: So you don't do it. It's a frustrating spot as
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  Speaker 2: a play caller. I would imagine. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Well, in, I mean, It's also just going to be
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  Speaker 4: tough to be able to get anything rolling drew with
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  Speaker 4: your offense and, and any bit of your offensive line.
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  Speaker 4: If you can't have some kind of a change up
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  Speaker 4: in these safeties, aren't going to respect anything. They can
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  Speaker 4: play cover to knowing that they can stop the run
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  Speaker 4: with six guys. That's a really tough way to throw
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  Speaker 4: the ball.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: There's a, there's a screen grab out there of a
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  Speaker 1: Jordan love drop back where the Packers have seven, offensive
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  Speaker 1: players protecting love against five rushers and yet four of
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: the blockers are occupied by trying to stop two of
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  Speaker 1: the defenders and then the the on the fringes there
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  Speaker 1: are guys locked up in one-on-ones and one guy's just
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  Speaker 1: running absolutely free unabated to the quarterback.
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  Speaker 4: Barreling down on him before you i never played offensive
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  Speaker 4: line and i've never coached the offensive line it's not
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  Speaker 4: ideal but that screen grab says to me something's screwed
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  Speaker 4: up here Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That was like as bad as it can look.
• 14:59
  Speaker 4: That in and don't go. If that's a tough one
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: to watch, don't go and watch the fourth and one
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: down inside the 10. Cause again, it's either miscommunication on
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: the slide where Sean Ryan passes off to his left
• 15:12
  Speaker 4: thinking Jagger Burton's coming around.
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: He's locked up with a defensive tackle alone.
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: And my man rips through, comes Scott free and chases
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: love into the decision to throw the ball right at
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: the face of Watson and the defender. So yeah, every
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: time that they needed to at least get a couple
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: of seconds of reprieve for love at the top of
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: his drop, it was a quick pressure. And it did
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: feel like every time that the offensive line did hold
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: up partially adequately. Again, I don't think it's unfair to say,
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: know that it's going to happen to him, but love
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: was so sped up that it felt like he could
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: barely even take advantage. This is Steve has a couple
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: of good ones on the talking text line. Hey guys,
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: talk about that hundred loss season for the Brewers and
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: now a hundred wins gives me hope that our crappy
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: Packers could turn it around a little sooner rather than later.
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: I don't see it happening this year, but hopefully in
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: one year, boom, go pack, go let's go Brewers, but
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: let's keep this going all the way to the world series.
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: He also did mention here and maybe a good one,
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: especially for our friends that are going to have You know,
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: family across the border.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: Armin Sarian with some of that as well.
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: I know there's always holidays that are celebrated with people
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: from Illinois.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: Unfortunately, yeah.
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: Before the season, I was looking forward to Thanksgiving Eve
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: and Christmas Day.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: Now, maybe not so much. Holidays might be right. There
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: were a couple times, not many, that we've had to
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: put our head in our hands. A lot of ballgame left, though.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: But there is.
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, if you need some sort of hope, I'd
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: say there's recent history in the NFL to give it
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: to you. Not the way this team's playing right now,
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: but the fact that things do change quickly in this league.
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: And they have changed quickly. Just a few years ago,
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: the Packers were, what, 2-5, Billy, or 3-6? Turned this
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: whole thing around.
• 16:54
  Speaker 6: Both.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they were, yeah. So it looked pretty bleak. And
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: then they figured some things out. They got better. Went out,
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: had a great end of the year. Got a big
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: playoff win. Almost went farther, so... I know hope is
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: not a strategy, but I always say it is for fans.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: Like that's the strategy we have. I'm not coaching. I'm
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: not personnel guy. I'm not, you know, going to be
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: on the sidelines.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to be in the Donald Hudson center.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: I'm going to be doing what we do. So hope
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: is my strategy. All right.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: So things do turn around quick in this league. That's
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: all I'm going to say. I mean, they turn around
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: quick for the Falcons in four days. All you can
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: do is say, Hey, maybe the Packers can figure something
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: out somehow, some way.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not wrong. There's a lot of ballgame left,
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: and I don't think, just based on the first three weeks,
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: that anybody in the North is going to be reeling
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: off 13 or 14 wins.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Good point. I think it's going to remain rather competitive.
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: Drew, our friend Aaron Nagler, captain at a lot of
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: ballgame left, did mention, though, last night, at the moment,
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: that kind of sounds like a threat.
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: It is.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Daunting.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: You're like, a lot of ball game left. Generally, that
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: gives you some confidence that it can get better.
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: Maybe that just is a painful reminder that you got
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: to watch it 14 more times.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Charles Robinson, formerly of Yahoo Sports, now writes for NFLBlueBook.com.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: A wildy groomsman, by the way.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, nice.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: He points out that last season, LeFleur and the Packers
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: were 9-3-1. Since then, including the playoffs, they're 1-7. And
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: their next opponent, we don't know what's going to happen
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: in between, but Todd Bowles of the Buccaneers was 6-2
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: last season and is 2-9 since.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're struggling too. That's not the place I.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Want to go. You combine those two teams' records, they
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: were 15-5-1. And since then, they're combined three and 16.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Something's got to give it Raymond James.
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm talking about. Something's got to give bowl.
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: That's where you can shine.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: Cause I thought to myself, like nothing, nothing good. Even
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: with our best teams, nothing as good as happened to
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: us going to Dan Tampa.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: But I'm like, you know what?
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: Maybe this is the, or something good has to happen.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: Cause it's not going good already here. So yeah, let's
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: turn this thing around and hopefully it starts next week.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Turn this thing around the longest day of the year.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: not in terms of sunlight or daylight, but in terms
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: of our work day, we'll continue. And Scott Dolphin is
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: going to join us next. We'll get a little relief.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Our halftime correspondence can be, or we'll get his thoughts.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: And what do you think the bears thought when they
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: watched that?
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: They just laughed. They're happy. I just laughed for three hours.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Play the Packers in 17 days. They probably just can't wait.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Such chance in their living room. Yeah. They enjoyed that
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: one last night.
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: That hate watch was very Scott.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Dolphin joins us. Dolphin joins us next. You're in the huddle,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio, Wisconsin. Fire your agent Friday.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: We like to call it.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: That's because... We're working. We're wheeling around the clock for folks.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: I don't like to use the term hero. We're not
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: going to name ourselves current electric superheroes of the day,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: but we'll consider the candidacy of Scott Dolphin from the
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: country station on the hall who joins us to add
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: some energy to our halftime program here.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Hello, Dolph.
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: I'm not worthy, Drew, but thank you for the nomination.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: I appreciate it. It's a pleasure just to be nominated.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: I'm going to nominate Billy. This day is already looking up.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: Billy fired up a pizza. He made all of us
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: feel a little better here.
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: Thank you. I mean, it's still, it is still smoking hot.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: I was going to say, man, Dolph, that's a, that
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: is a brave, brave move. You jumped on that thing.
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: And I saw, I saw wiping the hands quickly. So
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: that indicated you went up for the first bite, realized
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: how scolding hot it was and said, ah, maybe I
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: wait one more second.
• 20:57
  Speaker 7: When I see pizza in front of me, I jumped
• 20:59
  Speaker 7: because we don't eat it, you know, at home, you know,
• 21:01
  Speaker 7: it's just the wife and I know the kids are
• 21:03
  Speaker 7: long gone.
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: So we don't eat a lot of pizza anymore.
• 21:05
  Speaker 7: In fact, a couple weeks ago, I brought home those
• 21:07
  Speaker 7: little bubbly crusts, and we made our own pizzas.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: That's a fun thing to do with the kids.
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: That's the first time we've had pizza in probably a
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: month or two.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Do you have a.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: Place you go to down there where you're at normally
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: to order, to pick up?
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Not really.
• 21:20
  Speaker 7: I'm on the south side. There's one on Howell and Howard.
• 21:23
  Speaker 7: I think it's MKE Pizza or something like that. It
• 21:25
  Speaker 7: used to be Pepe's, and now it's like MKE. It's
• 21:28
  Speaker 7: been there for 1,000 years. It's just a carryout.
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: You just go in.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: It's a counter.
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: You get your pizzas, and you carry out. There's no place.
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: It's not a dining room or anything.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: That's probably the one I go to most.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: It feels like you got to have something, you know,
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: when you're wherever you're living, everyone's got their carryout spot
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: or yeah, absolutely.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: It's funny how that goes in cycles. You might have
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: like pizza once a week for three months and then
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: not have it for a while. It's a streaky food.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Yes, it is.
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: And it's, that's why whenever it gets brought up as the, well,
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: I could, could you go the rest of your life
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: without pizza? If you're in that one binge where you
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: haven't had it in a month, you're like, yeah, yeah,
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: I could. And then it, When you're living on it
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: during football season, probably twice a week on a Palermo's, yeah,
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: there's no chance.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: I'll give up on some kind of Brussels sprouts.
• 22:10
  Speaker 7: It's still the one everybody says, well, if that's the
• 22:12
  Speaker 7: only thing I could eat for the rest of my life,
• 22:14
  Speaker 7: they're picking pizza because you can diversify so much. I mean,
• 22:17
  Speaker 7: if you want a vegetarian pizza, I don't know why
• 22:19
  Speaker 7: you would, but just to cut down on your cholesterol
• 22:22
  Speaker 7: or whatever, but then you can go back to the
• 22:23
  Speaker 7: three meat lovers or whatever.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: I like that. A little breakfast pizza, you can tell
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: yourself that that's good.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: But you have to know your go-tos. I feel like,
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: you know, it's sort of like when you're a quarterback,
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: you have to know your hot routes. You have to
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: know your go-to pizza pickups in your area because that's
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: like the go-to when you're really in need of something.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: And when you're moved somewhere, it's hard to really get
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: accustomed to that. Like, Laura moved up here when we
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: got married, and she wasn't aware of the people. But
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: she was going to order something. I'm like, well, why
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: did you order from Ned's? I mean, that's so far
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: down 27th Street.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: But she had no idea.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: She ordered from Marco's, but not Marco's World Famous Original
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: on 27th and College. She ordered from the Marcos chain.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: So I went to the Marcos. So you have those moments,
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: but it's okay. You get through them. That's what it's
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: all about. And then you learn the pizzas in your area.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: So it is kind of, you know, it's one of
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: those things you get used to.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: It sounds like you're a little hurt from that one.
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: Go ahead.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: It's a memory. It's a memory that I shared here.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: It was a choice.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Dolph, I want you to get in the DeLorean for
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: us here and tell us because Packers are sitting at
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: one and two and they got debacled last night in
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: their home opener. Uncompetitive, unprepared. incompetent, inept, whatever, whatever adjectives
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: you want to use.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: Is my memory right?
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Did the bears open last season? One and two, they were, Oh,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: and two. And then they went and got a win.
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 23:40
  Speaker 7: Yeah. They got, they got clocked by the lions and
• 23:43
  Speaker 7: they had a very disappointing home loss to the Vikings
• 23:46
  Speaker 7: on Monday night football to start the season.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: And they got JJ McCarthy.
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 23:51
  Speaker 7: And then, and then, and then, you know, Detroit embarrassed
• 23:53
  Speaker 7: him and you're thinking, Oh my God, this is going
• 23:55
  Speaker 7: to be a four win campaign again. And hopes are
• 23:59
  Speaker 7: so high, but yeah, then they turned it around and
• 24:01
  Speaker 7: And turned into a pretty nice season, Drew.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: I'm looking for silver linings here.
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a good one.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: One and two last year and then won the division.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of ballgame left.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: A lot of ballgame left.
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: And there were moments there when they went to Detroit
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: where it looked like there was no chance that it
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: was going to get better.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: So I'm like, where are you going with that? And
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: there was.
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: At that point, they weren't running the football for six touchdowns.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: On the crowd like they did in week one here.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: It's a wild difference from where you were a little
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: more than 365 days ago. We were up there for
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: a Thursday night game. It was the second game of
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: the year last year, Dolph. And the Packers played the
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: Commanders four days after kind of beating up the Lions,
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: who were still at that moment the class of the
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: NFC and the class of the division. The Commanders had
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: just played for the right to go to the Super Bowl,
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: and you kind of pants them and expose Jayden Daniels.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: I mean, people were maybe not booking rooms, but just
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: looking at what prices were going to be like in
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: Santa Clara. And now the furthest thing from your mind
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: could be Los Angeles, let alone the playoffs.
• 25:06
  Speaker 7: Last night was not encouraging. I can tell you that
• 25:09
  Speaker 7: as an outsider looking in. I mean, you know, my
• 25:11
  Speaker 7: friends had said, oh, you know, they hated the Jets game.
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: It was an ugly win. They didn't deserve to win.
• 25:17
  Speaker 7: And they didn't have high hopes for the season, but
• 25:20
  Speaker 7: they thought they would take care of the Falcons tonight.
• 25:22
  Speaker 7: And Atlanta comes out looking like the Super Bowl hopeful
• 25:25
  Speaker 7: from the NFC. I mean, my God, you talk about
• 25:28
  Speaker 7: the best running. You can argue this if you want.
• 25:30
  Speaker 7: That's the best running back in the NFL.
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: Right there in B. John Robinson.
• 25:33
  Speaker 7: I mean, the moves he made last night were ridiculous. Now,
• 25:37
  Speaker 7: like you said, they were unprepared on defense for it, Drew.
• 25:40
  Speaker 7: And there's no excuse for that. But that kid is
• 25:43
  Speaker 7: freaking amazing to watch. And, you know, barring injury, he's
• 25:47
  Speaker 7: going to be the best running back in the NFL
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: this year.
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: It's a pretty good one, two punch.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: The Robinson brothers, right?
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: And we, we talked about that penalty on Brenton Cox,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: the questionable roughing the passer. And we made it our
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Toyota turning point, uh, on the Packers OT program. Here's
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: a stat for you going into that play. Uh, the
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Packers had allowed 50 yards and had a takeaway in
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: the first 12 defensive plays. First 12 plays for the
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Falcons offense. The play immediately after that was like a
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: 55 yard run by Bijan in the 54 plays after
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: that penalty. The Falcons gained 448 yards, an 8.2 yard
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: average per play.
• 26:27
  Speaker 7: It was like arena football out there at times between
• 26:29
  Speaker 7: Robinson and Drake London. I mean, it was, it was like,
• 26:31
  Speaker 7: even when the Packers got a little moment, okay, they
• 26:33
  Speaker 7: scored a touchdown. Here we go. And it was a
• 26:36
  Speaker 7: minute and a half later and Atlanta was down on
• 26:38
  Speaker 7: your eight yard line.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: And it was just, it was, it was easy pickings.
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: The Drake London phenomenon last night, I thought they were
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: going to get him 10 targets. I didn't know it
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: was going to be nine catches and it was going
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: to feel like room service. The one against Bullard on,
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: on what, I mean, some kind of similar to like
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: a skinny post up the seam. where he's the second
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: of the trip's formation. They put him in the slot
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: a bunch. They got him in good, advantageous positions, but
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: he turned him around quickly, and he's just such a
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: big target.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: You put it.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: Anywhere near him, and he's going to be cooking. The
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: other part for Penix is he had played in big
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: games before. You almost forget that he played in the
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: national title a couple of years ago. He's the one
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: that's still starting from that national title game.
• 27:19
  Speaker 7: He's a guy you want to root for when you
• 27:21
  Speaker 7: think about when he was at Indiana, and then he
• 27:23
  Speaker 7: had the catastrophic injury.
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: Injury.
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: And then he goes to the Huskies and almost wins
• 27:27
  Speaker 7: a natty. And, you know, so it's a guy that,
• 27:28
  Speaker 7: you know, it's a, it's a nice story.
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: He was at Indiana when it wasn't cool to say
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: before they were good.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 27:35
  Speaker 7: But he was putting up big numbers there too. And
• 27:37
  Speaker 7: that's the reason he got the ride at Washington. Uh,
• 27:40
  Speaker 7: but you didn't expect him to do that last night.
• 27:41
  Speaker 7: We were talking, I went to, you know, we played
• 27:43
  Speaker 7: a little golf yesterday and then we're watching the Brewers
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: and Packers last night. We were talking, you know, can you,
• 27:47
  Speaker 7: who is your, who's your favorite left-handed quarterback? When we
• 27:50
  Speaker 7: watched Michael Pennix last night, And a lot of names
• 27:52
  Speaker 7: popped up.
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: You guys have one. I always think old school, you know,
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: like Kenny Stabler, guys like that.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Well, Steve Young is the one.
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: Steve Young is probably the gold standard.
• 27:59
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: Boomer Esiason was another one. Brunel was my personal because
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: he was a packer. Sure. Well, Larry pointed out that
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: they had a left-handed operation. Left-handed center and left-handed quarterback,
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: which is pretty weird. Yeah, how about that?
• 28:11
  Speaker 7: A left-handed center. So is it like in baseball with
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: first base? Do you have to get a special hiking
• 28:18
  Speaker 7: glove when you're a left-handed center?
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: You just got to get all the left-handed footballs. I
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: would potentially... No, I can't say potentially it's a guarantee
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: for me. Best left-handed quarterback. My favorite one of all time.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: Rest in peace to the hefty lefty Jared Lorenzo.
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, sure.
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: That would definitely still be the number one that anytime
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: I see the Southpaw delivery back there, I think a 13th.
• 28:40
  Speaker 7: Armand played game time with us a couple weeks ago,
• 28:42
  Speaker 7: and that was one of his trivia questions. I gave
• 28:44
  Speaker 7: him sports nicknames, and he nailed the hefty lefty right
• 28:46
  Speaker 7: off the bat.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: I just remember him when it was Arena League where
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: he was running around.
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: Then he was real big. With the Northern Kentucky River Monsters.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: That's what it was.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: It was some crazy uniform.
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: The Owensboro Rage, dude. He was putting up huge numbers
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: in 13. Just unreal.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: You got me thinking about lefty quarterbacks. Stabler's a great one.
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: The Snake.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Obviously, we soon mentioned Vic. Oh, that's right. Yeah.
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Especially when a, there's a guy wearing number seven running
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: rough shot over you.
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: It brought back to 2001 or 2002.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And how many people had to post the, you know,
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: the highlighter imagery of, of the playoff wildcard loss.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: That was the, that was in 2000 and a what three.
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: Is that what it was?
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: That one of the Packers lost the Falcons at Lambeau
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: in the wildcard. And I had to watch that all week. Yeah.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Bad mojo, you know, so just not agree. Well, the
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: Falcons called upon it. They put it out last.
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Yesterday before the game. And, and it was exactly that.
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: The other thing about Robinson and just how dominant he
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: was on the ground. He did a lot of that
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: at Texas, but it was also for a team that,
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: before they kind of got good before sark really got
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: there had a lot of empty calories people wondered if
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: he was going to be able to do that in
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: the nfl or if he was going to be kind
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: of cooked because of how much they gave it to
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: him in college uh flies in the face of the
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: workload being an issue for.
• 30:09
  Speaker 7: Him yeah that backfield by the way had three running
• 30:12
  Speaker 7: backs that are now in the nfl i know rashaun
• 30:14
  Speaker 7: johnson was part of that he's a backup for the
• 30:16
  Speaker 7: bears now there's a kid at carolina too but I mean,
• 30:19
  Speaker 7: the Falcons knew right away he wasn't damaged goods, and
• 30:22
  Speaker 7: they snapped him up early, and boy, is it going
• 30:24
  Speaker 7: to pay off. It was ridiculous watching him last night.
• 30:27
  Speaker 7: It was almost like he was going against high schoolers
• 30:30
  Speaker 7: out there, the moves he was making.
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: Guys weren't even close to getting a hand on him.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it looked like Kingston Allen. Yeah.
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: And he's playing for Notre Dame prop. So that might be,
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: that might be the worst, the worst deal that it
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: looked like Friday night football.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: But see, and you said guys were going to, I
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: think he's making a lot of guys miss, but I
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: also think he was running through some guys too. And
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: that was the thing about it is like, he was
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: just battering and bruising, you know, demoralizing when you impose
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: your will physically on a team.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: Right, Billy?
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: There's nothing worse. When you're on the line, you're getting
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: your will imposed on physically. I mean, that's what it
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: felt like. There haven't been very many fun days for
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: the Atlanta Falcons. Last night was probably the most fun
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: you can have playing football if you're an offensive lineman.
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and you mentioned, Armand, imposing your will.
• 31:16
  Speaker 7: Speaking of the offensive line, that was a huge difference
• 31:18
  Speaker 7: in the game, obviously, last night. It's a stark contrast
• 31:21
  Speaker 7: between those two offensive lines.
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: So, Dolph, is the Iowa offensive line going to be
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: able to impose their will against this machine? I mean,
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: I kind of pained Drew on the ride home last
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: night to listen to a bunch of different college football
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: previews getting ready for the weekend.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: Oh, yes.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: And there were not... Drew, I don't know.
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: There weren't many very favorable conversations on the pod you
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: listened to last night about Dolph's Hawkeyes going into the
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: big house tomorrow.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: It's going to be a slog.
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: Michigan's defense is scary good.
• 31:52
  Speaker 7: They're both top 10, I think, in the country right
• 31:55
  Speaker 7: now through three games. Iowa's competition probably a little less. Obviously,
• 31:59
  Speaker 7: Michigan played Western Michigan, which is pretty good. And then
• 32:01
  Speaker 7: you've got Oklahoma. We're not sure how good they are.
• 32:04
  Speaker 7: Their offense might be directional school good. Iowa's got a
• 32:07
  Speaker 7: good offensive line. They're going to be a candidate for
• 32:08
  Speaker 7: the Joe Moore Award this year, but that Michigan defensive line,
• 32:11
  Speaker 7: I think, is superior. This is going to be a
• 32:15
  Speaker 7: 13-9 game or something like that because Iowa's defense is
• 32:18
  Speaker 7: also very good, and they're going to give Michigan trouble
• 32:20
  Speaker 7: on offense.
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: Drew, this is the game where you get the Iowa
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: t-shirt that just said punts.
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: Punting is winning.
• 32:26
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Bust that bad boy out for this one, and you'll
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: enjoy the game. It's a culture there. It's a culture.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Punting is a culture.
• 32:32
  Speaker 7: Every time I see Torrey Taylor punt for the Bears,
• 32:34
  Speaker 7: it brings back fond memories of his days in Iowa
• 32:37
  Speaker 7: City where he was like the team MVP.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: I was five inside the five. It was unreal.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: I always tell you, Dolph, I have a good friend
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: in Des Moines, and he's not from there, but he's
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: been living there long enough to get in the Iowa culture,
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: and he's been the most mad about the Packers not
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: taking the points on these field goal decisions. He's like,
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: in Iowa, we take the points available.
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: That's great. Yeah, that's right. They do.
• 33:00
  Speaker 7: There'll be a lot of field goal opportunities tomorrow between them.
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: But what about the game out in Happy Valley?
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: Come on now.
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: Let's talk about it.
• 33:08
  Speaker 7: Bucky's got some big-time Mo after that win against Eastern Michigan.
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: They scored some points.
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: I think there's, I think there's reason to be, to
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: be optimistic and excited.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: And now do I think they're going to win the
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: football game? I don't know.
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: I think they are going to put forth a, a strong,
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: strong effort. And frankly, I don't know how good Penn
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: state is, but this is, and I told drew last
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: night and we said it a little bit before it's sneaky.
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: One of the most important games in Luke fickle's tenure, because, uh,
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: You're going up against new head coaches in the Big
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: Ten for the first three games in the Big Ten.
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: And you've got to make decisions a lot earlier on
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: coaches than you used to. This is going to be
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: a really telling game as to where you can kind
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: of start measuring up.
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: Three straight, huh? New coaches?
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: Matt Campbell with Penn State, Pat Fitzgerald with Michigan State,
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: and handsome Bob Chesney out there in UCLA.
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he is handsome.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: He is a handsome son of a gun.
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: And he came from JMU, right?
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: 15 of the Dukes.
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: College football playoff last year.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the MO, and Matt Campbell did it. They're
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: going to face a lot of them, Drew. They're going
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: to have these well-built, transported teams in college football.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: It's going to be wild. It's going to be a
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: fun slate. And Sunday for us is going to be
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: absolutely rapturous.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: We could just sit on the couch and consume the
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: league like civilians do.
• 34:30
  Speaker 7: And side-eye of the Brewer game because they'll probably be
• 34:34
  Speaker 7: playing mostly bench guys, I would assume. Although you don't
• 34:37
  Speaker 7: have many bench guys in September like you used to.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: No, you get a little Miz on Sunday, too. That's true.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: A little taster there, which would be nice.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: However long he's going to throw.
• 34:47
  Speaker 7: The Padres clinched a playoff spot last night. The Phillies
• 34:50
  Speaker 7: are going to. They need to win or it's a
• 34:53
  Speaker 7: loss by the Diamondbacks.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: Is that what it is? Diamondbacks are making it tough
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: on them though.
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: They've been battling here in these last couple of days
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: and definitely going to make it interesting. But the Padres
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: were able to dismantle the Dodgers clubhouse last night. I
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: think they probably took a lot of enjoyment in that one.
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: You bet they did.
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: That's a team I don't want to see in the
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: first round of the playoffs.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: No chance.
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: San Diego.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: No question.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: No question.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Dolph, thanks for popping in, man. We appreciate it. Have
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: a great weekend. Go Hawkeyes, I guess.
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Feel free.
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: Thanks, Drew. See ya.
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: I'm a disinterested observer, just like Dolph is when he
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: watches the Packers play the Falcons. He's like, I just
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: want to watch the game and see what happens.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: And I'm excited to hate watch his Bears coming up
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: on Monday night. But you're right. Oh, we're all going
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: to be on that on Monday night. Full belly up Sunday, Drew,
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: before that ends. We need something.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: That's right. That's right.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: We need something.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Going to take a quick break. Wayne Larrabee joins us
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: in just about an hour. You're in the huddle. Fox
• 35:44
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• 35:49
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• 36:01
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• 36:01
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• 36:17
  Speaker 1: Folks are opining about the Packers' defense, their offense, the
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: offensive line, the special teams allowing a blocked kick with
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: the opponent having 10 men on the field. Everything under
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: the sun. One thing we have not talked about yet,
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: Tucker Kraft's post-game comments. Surprised to be booed in the
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: home opener. You knew around here? There's a standard. He
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: made a comment that is going to be dissected, and
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: I think he's going to be On a rotisserie for
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: a couple of days. Yeah.
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: And again, I just like it. One comment will not
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: make or break a young man. It can be a
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: tough one. Drew, there's no, uh, in a world where
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: sports betting, uh, in the conversation is robust and maybe
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: to a dangerous level. One very, very dangerous thing you
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: talk about in sports wagering is a guaranteed bet. The
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: only guaranteed bet is you say something negative about the
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: fan's option or opportunity or right to do something. Yeah,
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: you're going to lose that one. You instantly lose that battle.
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: And Tucker's probably wearing it a little bit. Not maybe
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: his best moment, but I do.
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: And I wonder how Armin feels about this because I
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: know he firmly stands against booing.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: I don't think his premise is wrong.
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: But when you say it and you say that out loud.
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you do put yourself right on the rotisserie and
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: they cook it up to 350 and let it roll.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you said it, Billy. That's exactly how I felt.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: Well, I think he has a good point, and I've
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: always kind of said I think booing is kind of productive.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: I totally understand why it happens.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: The fans are emotional.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: And the last thing I'm going to do is expect
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: him to go over well when you're trying to explain
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: that to fans. Like, there's just certain things you can't say. Like,
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: you know, I don't think my– maybe if I don't
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: think my in-laws should load the dishwasher that way, but
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to talk about it like that.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: Let's get the audio just so people can hear it
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: if they didn't hear the cut of him talking about
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: the booze. Yeah, it's pretty tough.
• 38:12
  Speaker 6: You know, like everyone pictures Lambeau Field and the– not booze.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: I don't picture booze.
• 38:21
  Speaker 6: I picture my home stadium.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: That's tough. It's pretty disappointing.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: Especially for a home opener.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: Especially for a home opener.
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: It's pretty disappointing.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: It's not going to help us win.
• 38:36
  Speaker 6: I don't know what people think that's going to rally
• 38:38
  Speaker 6: us or something like that. We're growing men. We're mentally
• 38:43
  Speaker 6: strong enough, capable enough to get back on the field
• 38:46
  Speaker 6: and play ball. But probably much easier with the 70,000
• 38:52
  Speaker 6: people behind us rather than opposing us.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: Hey, there it is guys.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: And like, like you said, it's not that it's illogical.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: It's just, you just know how people are going to
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: react to it. And especially when it's Tucker craft, we're
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: talking about the guy that we've always joked about, like
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: came out as the Packer fan favorite.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: And it's like, I said that, I said that if
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: you want to create a Packer out of a lab,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: he'd be pretty close to a guy from a town
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: of 600 people in pigs, knuckles, South Dakota.
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: And he's, I mean, he said it, I think, is
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: also going to.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: Be plays hard, comes back from injury, plays without a
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: contract extension, then gets one and then rips the fans who.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: kind of pay his salary through their largesse. But yeah,
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: it was, it was inartfully spoken, I would say. And
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: then Christian Watts is like, yeah, we're in the entertainment business.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: You know, we weren't going to get better. Like he
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: kind of balanced it out a little bit, the way
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: to handle it. Also, there was a weird moment with
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: the floor, uh, presser when someone said are you considering
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: any changes on your staff and he said i'm not
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: going to answer that.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: I'm not even going to answer that question well answer
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: that question.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you just say man i love the guys
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: i love i love our staff we're going to get
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: together as soon as i get out of here we're
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: going upstairs to break down get better and damn it
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: we're going to give tampa everything they can handle like
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: it doesn't take that much to say that No, it
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: can be. It sounds murky to say, oh, I'm not
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: going to answer that.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds weird. It sounds like not as scared.
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: As maybe a too simplistic word, but like just you're right, Drew.
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: The easiest thing is to give the 12 second vote
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: of confidence, even if that goes out of the window.
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: You saying I'm not going to answer it only leads
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: to many more legitimate questions about it.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it's like you wanted to convey that it's
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: the furthest thing from your mind. Well, why don't you
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: just say that then? That's the last thing I would
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: just say. I like these guys, the staff, but we're going.
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: To work together.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: We're going to, we're all going to get out of
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: this together. Players, coaches, equipment, guys, trainers, everybody's in it.
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: I think in his mind, he might be thinking, this
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: is such a dumb question. It's so disrespectful. I'm not
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: going to even respect it by answering it, but I
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: liked the way you were going to handle it better
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: if it was just up to me as well.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, I mean, it's, it's, it's not that hard
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: and it's not his first rodeo. He's been facing these
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: for eight years and the questions are only to get
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: more and more directed, more pointed because, If this trend
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: that we saw last night continues, someone's.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Losing a job.
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's not something that Matt has been comfortable
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: doing and very willing to do very often.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: See Drayton slash Maurice. We'll take a quick break. You're
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: in the huddle. Fox Sports Radio Wisconsin.