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Radio Ranch with Roger Sayles 071026 LIVE - Brent Winters on Fear, Order, and the Fight for Steadiness · Global Voice Radio Network's tracks

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  Thank you so much for joining us, and welcome to the program.
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  Unknown: Oh, yes.
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  Well, it certainly needs changing, and it is in itself. We like to try and push it the other way. Good morning, Friday.
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  The Friday edition of the Radio Ranch, Roger Sales, and Brent Winters is with us today
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  already.
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  And,
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  wow. The world is really a messed up place on July
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  10.
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  I eleventh?
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  Tenth. It's the tenth. Sorry.
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  So good morning, Brent. Good morning, audience. Morning, Paul. I was a little almost a little late this morning, a little behind in my work.
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  Listening to,
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  not something I particularly wanted to listen to, but it's about the only thing that was viable this morning, which was the
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  latest drop over on Tucker about euthanasia
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  in Canada. And, holy
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  smokes,
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  Ain't the world bad enough without having to dupe
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  people into killing them?
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  Anyway, morning. Morning, Paul. Yes. Hold on. We got Paul's got a little piece here, and we can jump right in the deep end. Go ahead, Paul.
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  Unknown: Yes.
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  Our website is thematrixdocs.com,
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  and our conference,
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  system is free conference call.
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  Well, it's not our conference system, but it's the one we use so people can join us live on the show, and you'll find the links to FCC on
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  thematrixdocs.com.
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  That's all I've got.
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  Unknown: Morning, Brent.
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  Morning, Rod. Yeah. You sound good and loud and clear this morning.
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  Well, I found out yesterday, the day before our whole,
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  Middle East thing is off, and,
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  they dropped a 107
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  they hit a 170
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  targets the day before yesterday.
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  So it appears we're back on.
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  And we'll just see.
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  Just a day to day deal.
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  You know? But,
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  they
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  they need to get that straight open or else we're all collectively gonna have some bad,
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  hard
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  times.
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  Now we somebody was trying to say something a minute ago just as we were getting started. Who was that?
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  Unknown: Julie. Me, Julie.
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  Unknown: Well, Julie, you're right there in the front of things this morning. How are you?
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  Unknown: I'm good. Thank you. And before you hi, Brent. Good
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  morning. Before you guys all get started, I just wanted to add,
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  what do you call, salt to injury or whatever.
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  Trump is now tokenizing
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  our water supply as of July 29.
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  And
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  Iran says if you bomb us one more time, we are exiting the nuclear non proliferation
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  treaty.
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  And I saw they are just bombing the crap out of Lebanon.
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  Oh. And now they're going they're going after Chinese Belt Road Initiative. They're destroying all the rail,
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  and they're destroying Iran.
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  And now we're gonna have our water supply nationalized, and they're gonna start putting meters on people's wells.
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  I yield.
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  Unknown: Well,
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  happy Friday.
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  Yikes.
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  Morning, Brent.
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  Unknown: Hi, Roger.
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  Yeah.
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  Unknown: Yeah.
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  What do you do? You laugh or cry?
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  Pray. You pray.
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  Is Brent with us?
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  Unknown: Yeah. I'm here, Roger. There you are. Yeah. I'm like you. I what
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  do you do? Well, what do you say? I'm I'm thinking what in the world can be said. Of course, I don't know I don't know if any of it's true. We only know what we hear. And we know that in most cases, the people in the media are liars or they don't have the facts themselves.
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  And it's never as bad,
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  never as bad as it seems,
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  and it's never as good as it seems either.
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  That's the truth as well, I've discovered over the decades.
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  So I'd, of course, just want to do, stand fast and stand fast and do what I'm known supposed to do. That's what really that's what really will
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  bring chaos
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  in the camp of people that want to hurt us,
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  and it's it's there now.
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  And when they see
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  that we aren't
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  disheveled
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  over what they're doing, it panics them.
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  Panics them very badly.
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  And, the only way you can not be upset about what happens
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  is to be acclimated to the fight, and that takes a long time.
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  That's been my observation for what it's worth. In other words,
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  I remember reading, and whether or not people went to the moon, I'm not talking about that. I'm just talking about when they'd put those astronauts
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  and those capsules on top of that giant
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  that giant tube filled with solid rocket fuel,
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  they drilled them and drilled them and drilled them. They went oh, they had simulated
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  launches hundreds of times.
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  And the first few times they had the simulated launches, of course, they
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  were monitoring
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  everything about their bodies from their blood pressure and their heartbeat to their brain waves.
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  And the first few times they did it, their heartbeats
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  when it came time to launch, even in the simulation,
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  their heartbeats
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  began to be more rapid.
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  And then as time went along, it got less and less. And when they finally had the real launch,
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  their heartbeat didn't change a bit. They were fully
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  acclimated
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  to the process.
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  It's like when I used to shoot a 38 caliber pistol,
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  which I used to do pretty often, and I'd practice with it. And I didn't have any money, Roger, so I would take one dead shell,
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  or one live shell
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  and put in the revolver,
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  and I'd put five dead shells in there.
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  And I had a brother who was on the pistol team at the US Naval Academy.
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  You know, if you go to the Naval Academy, you gotta
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  you gotta you gotta be a varsity athlete.
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  And, everybody does. And you gotta pick something. Of course, they've got things you can do that
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  don't take a lot of speed and strength
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  because everybody's gotta participate.
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  And he decided he wanted to be on pistol team. So he came home and, of course, traveled around and had competition.
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  And I said, well, I've been shooting this 38 for a long time, but I've never had somebody that really knew what they were doing telling me how to do it. He said, well, the thing you got to get over right away with, shooting a pistol
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  is flinching.
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  And he said, I don't care who you are. Once you shoot a pistol
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  and you hear that loud noise, of course, the 38 is loud and it and real loud if you had never shot one, but it's nothing compared to a 45 caliber slug
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  and some mother like a desert eagle, a 50 caliber.
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  Uh-huh. Still what's that, Roger?
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  Big boy. Big boy. Yeah. Yeah. I've shot some of those hog legs too, and it's a hand cannon is what it is. Yeah. But that 38, when you shoot it,
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  you tend to wait for that
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  massive noise that is shocking to the ears,
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  and you tend to be almost flinching a little bit.
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  And he said, well, the only way you can get over flinching
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  is to dry fire your weapon and never know. I'd play Russian roulette. I'd put one live and five dead, spin the cylinder, slap it shut, and then pull the trigger. Or no. No. No. Not pull.
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  Squeeze
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  the trigger. You don't pull a trigger. You squeeze it. And if you don't have squeeze in your mind, it's gonna mess you up to that degree. Well, I'd I'd
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  squeeze the trigger
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  and I did it and did it, and I never know when it was gonna go off.
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  You know, when you're playing Russian roulette like that of course, I'm not pointing it at anybody's head. I'm just pointing it at the target over We'd nail a bull's eye over on a elm tree or something, the edge of the woods,
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  and pull the trigger. Of course, I'd do it with an elm tree that was old. We didn't wanna ruin the timber. You know, you shoot lead into a good tree,
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  and you'll not be able to sell it. It won't be the same quality because that lead gets in there and stains the wood and whatnot. But we'd put it up on an old tree that was about half rotten, and we'd
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  just, put one
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  one shell out of six in there that was live, spin, and five dead ones. You don't want a dry fire
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  without a shell in the Yep. In revolver. That's hard on the mechanism. So we'd put five dead ones in there, one live, and one after another. Shucks. I'd shoot that thing 25 times sometime before it hit a live one. And when it hit the live one, I get so used to it being dead,
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  that I wouldn't flinch. And boom. And there it go. You know? Mhmm. And that's the way to learn how to shoot and,
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  get yourself acclimated
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  to the to the noise and, anticipation.
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  Unknown: Go ahead. What's your favorite caliber, Brent?
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  Unknown: Oh, well, now,
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  well, my favorite caliber was the 38.
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  It and it still is. It's just that
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  you know? And the reason was dad had a 38 caliber pistol,
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  and, he
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  brought back a 30 I got used to it. You know, whatever you're used to, that's what you ought to shoot. Yeah. It's probably true. Yeah. I couldn't get used to shooting a
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  big caliber 45.
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  You know, I shot them and all, but I for just for regular use. Well, dad had a 38.
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  He had a 12 gauge pump, Steven, 1912.
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  I say it was 1912
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  model. That was the year it was made. It was a pump shotgun.
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  That's an old gun, I think, about it now. And then he had a
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  he had a,
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  a 22 caliber long rye well, a 22 caliber bolt action rifle that Mhmm.
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  Yeah. It was a Winchester. He ordered it from Sears and Rau back back Right. Right. Got a job on a drilling rig, had a little money, and that that was in 1939,
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  the way I remember the story. But,
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  what happened was he was,
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  in Okinawa.
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  And, of course, the battle lasted two months or some crazy April 1 to the twenty second.
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  Was it June or July? I don't remember. A long time. Mhmm. And when it was over
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  when it was over, there was, people
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  the the regulations didn't matter anymore. This is the story a lot of men have told me. Everybody wanna get home and dismantle the military and just forget it Yeah. After all that. You know? And so nobody cared. Nobody's following the rules. And he said some kid had a
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  had a 38 caliber pistol with a holster. It was a flyer's pistol.
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  And he thought he was gonna get caught with it, and he'd stolen it apparently
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  out of a locker that he wasn't supposed to be in. And he thought the wrong people were about to see him, and he threw it over
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  into the water.
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  And dad noticed where it went in. He wouldn't he just happened to be there,
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  and he didn't know the fella.
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  And so later on, he came back and stripped down a little bit
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  and,
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  dove into the water. Of course, the water is clean and clear Oh, yeah. Out there, you know, and he at Okinawa.
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  And he
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  about
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  he said it was at least
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  40 feet deep. That's pretty deep. Yeah.
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  You dive down that deep, it takes a lot you gotta make sure you got enough air.
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  And he said he came he didn't he didn't find it. Came back up,
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  gasping for air, and then he hyperventilated a little bit and dove back down. And he thought he saw something. He just
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  shoved his hand into the sand,
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  and his hand went right into the trigger guard of that thing, he brought it out. Well, he brought it home
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  and, with by by the way, with a a Jap sniper rifle,
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  which,
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  had a stand on it, and it was a bolt action, of course. It was long barreled thing.
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  And, also, it had a whole pile
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  of,
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  Japanese
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  flyer
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  suits. You know, the kind of suits the Japs would wear in their zeros?
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  Yeah. Find all that stuff. We took it home. When I was a little boy growing up, I wore that stuff. If it would snow,
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  my mother got those out. Of course, the Japs weren't real big. And so when I was a little boy, those things fit me. Fit you. Yeah. Yeah. She'd roll them up a little bit in the sleeves and the and my brother and I, that's what we wore in the snow. I'll be darned. Those Jap Flyer suits. I don't know what happened to him. She had a or he had a whole mess of them.
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  But then that's how I got to shooting the 38 because that's what dad had. Yeah. Yeah. And I got used to it. So what's your favorite pistol?
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  Unknown: I don't know. I really like a 45.
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  I don't know why. I'm just drawn to them. I know they're difficult to shoot.
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  They they can be inaccurate,
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  you know, for somebody that's not used to shooting them. But if here let
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  me back one step up. There's a number of years ago, there was a guy that got on a train in New York,
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  and he went down through the train cars. Just black guy just shooting people. Remember doing that? With a nine millimeter.
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  Oh. I don't remember how many he shot, but there wasn't one of them that died.
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  K?
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  Alright? Yeah. But if you'd have done that with a 45, half of them or more would have died. Alright? A 45 will take your arm off if it hits you. It's a it's a wicked,
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  a wicked caliber. Do you know where it came from?
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  Unknown: Yeah. Hell, I got the story of what I I'm sure you could tell me more. So yeah. Well, I don't know story.
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  Unknown: Well, all I know is they were fighting The Philippines. We're fighting down in The Philippines, Spanish American war, I guess, and the Indians would get drunk on some kind of coconut wine or something, and they'd come for after the Americans, the Americans couldn't stop them. And they wrote back to give
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  us something that'll stop these guys, and that's where the 45 came from.
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  Unknown: Yeah. That well, I get it. No. That's kinda the way I got it too. It was after the war. But immediately after the war, we were trying to to get control of the islands.
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  I'll just add more color than I read about.
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  And, down in Mindanao was the big southern island. Luzon's the big main island, and Mindanao is the southern island, and the the Islamic
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  Filipinos are still there.
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  And when I was over there a hundred years ago before the flood of Noah,
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  on the backside on the backside of the the big military base there,
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  they would shoot
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  the marine guards
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  and take their weapons and run back into the jungle.
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  I don't know how those marines put up with it. I mean, some kid and they say, okay. You got guard duty tonight.
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  They act like they don't care, I guess, but they'd shoot them. Well, they of course,
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  even even after all those decades,
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  still the problem, it was the Islamic
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  Islamic
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  they're violent, vicious, hateful, dirty, low, rotten,
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  rotten, ugly people.
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  And that's what bad religion will do to you, by the way. If you live in a culture where that kind of religion is, they'll be chopping off women's heads, which they still do in those countries regularly,
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  and, shooting
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  people that don't believe what they believe or torturing them. It's all there. It's ugly. We we are we've been inoculated from the ugliness of Islam. Go ahead. That's for sure. I was gonna say I just there'd been a lot of of of press on it lately here.
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  Unknown: If a woman in Islam
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  accuses somebody of rape,
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  do you know what they have to have for for her for them to convict the rapist?
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  Unknown: No. Four
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  Unknown: witnesses
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  that saw penetration.
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  Four. That's interesting. And if they don't have that,
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  the female goes to jail.
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  Unknown: It'll probably take her life. Well, there ought to be evidence, but, of course, the Bible doesn't require four. It requires two,
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  for for a fact to prove a fact.
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  But people say, well, Brent, why do you sit down on Islam for? Well, I just
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  remember how nasty they've been. I've read the history of it. A lot of it. I don't know all of it. But with us, we've they've been they've been murdering Americans since the administration of George Washington
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  and imprisoning
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  them forever.
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  US marines, sailors, or civilians, they don't care. If they if they capture you and you will not say two things,
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  and the two things you gotta say is,
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  Muhammad,
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  Allah is god,
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  and number two, Muhammad is his prophet. Yeah. You gotta say both those things. And if you don't confess both those things, then then their religion gives them two choices. Number one, and this is always a viable option no matter what they do else, they can go ahead and kill you, and that's okay.
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  But if they figure they can get some tax money out of you Oh, yeah. They can do that.
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  But the third thing they can do is if they
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  can, get some work out of you, they can enslave you. And that's what they did to the Americans under the administrations
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  of
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  George Washington,
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  Adams, and up through Jefferson.
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  Mhmm. We didn't have a navy. And then finally, we we, congress put together authorization
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  for a couple of ships. One of them, by the way, that was built in is still in commission,
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  and that's the USS Constitution
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  stationed
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  in
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  in Boston. But,
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  we commissioned ships, and Britain
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  was paying,
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  a third. I think it was a third of their national tax intake to these Islamic
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  pirates in the in
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  Morocco
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  and those places. Duh. And America was paying that much.
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  Can you imagine,
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  taking a
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  million dollars in taxes for a year and pay out a third of it or between
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  a third and a half to a bunch of pirates. That's what we're to sail across some body of water? I don't think so.
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  Unknown: It's instructive to note that this Barbary Coast thing that Brent's talking about right here early, Thomas Jefferson,
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  We went over to England to try and talk to him, and they they they wouldn't talk to him. He went back and said, okay. Well, I'm gonna send the navy down, and this is where the marines came from.
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  From the hills of Montezuma to the shores of E E E. That's what this is about. And a bunch of the guys on the ship
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  got out, I guess,
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  got off the ship. Brent Brent's listening. He can probably tell us better. And they went around
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  whatever the town was there on the Northern African coast, and and that's how they beat them, if I remember correctly.
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  Unknown: Well, it was a long process.
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  I'm gonna just tell what I know about it for what it's worth.
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  But the most powerful by a hands down faraway navy in the history of mankind was the British Navy at that time, and they wouldn't tangle with them. And a Scotsman,
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  a turncoat Scotsman named Lyle
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  had moved down there, and he'd been a sailor.
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  And he, found out he could have all the sex he wanted and have all the wives he wanted, and he thought this pretty good deal.
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  Thought he was smart, and he knew how to sail. So he put together a navy for these scummy devils.
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  And he became the admiral of their navy.
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  And Really? Frightened
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  British
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  navy and imprisoning.
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  At that time, they'd imprisoned a lot of US marines.
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  Well, they were US marines. Nobody knew who they were before then. But after that, then they became well known. But we had marines, you know, that, on the ships, and the sailors and the marines were enslaved
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  there
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  in,
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  on the Barbary Coast by the Islamicists.
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  And, eventually, we said, okay. Well, the Brits aren't gonna do something. We will. We commissioned a couple of warships, had some sloops, and we eventually went in and,
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  snuck in at night. Stephen Decatur
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  and his brother were a couple of ossifers there, and they
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  they,
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  burnt the fleet.
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  But but before that,
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  Islamicist
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  under this turncoat Scotsman named Lyle
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  had
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  commandeered one of our ships, and
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  and, it ran aground. And they just went out and took it over, and and they decided they were gonna pay homage to
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  Mecca. And so they ordered the captain, American captain, to turn the ship toward Mecca.
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  And then ever so many times they had to point it toward,
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  you know, Mecca, I guess it is. If it wasn't sailing or he was tacking into the wind, he had to stop, and they'd all pray. And now that was humiliating
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  In the extreme, as you can imagine, he didn't have much choice what happened.
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  Finally,
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  Tom Jefferson did the dumb thing they're trying to do now, try to talk to the devils. You're not gonna talk to them. Their religion is all about lying
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  and and and suckering you in and then killing you. Well, that's just stupid. You don't do stuff. But he did. Tom Jefferson was always
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  thinking that men were fundamentally good, and we can talk to them and all that baloney. No. No. No. No. That ain't gonna happen. Now we're trying to do that now, but it it doesn't work that way with these folk. The religion doesn't permit it. And, you know, religion is the spring,
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  the ultimate spring of all human behavior.
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  And I don't I'm in good company when I say that. The man called the most intelligent man America ever produced, I don't know if he was, but he was a smart guy. Jonathan Edwards wrote a book on the subject, and I read it. And I was I'm fully persuaded he's right. And, of course, he took his information
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  out of the Bible and out of history to prove it. And
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  I can see it too. Because religion, as the US Supreme Court says, goes to the heart
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  of the ultimate concerns of mankind. And whatever a man believes about the ultimate concerns of mankind
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  will dictate what he does.
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  And you tell me other why now we talked about this last time, Roger. Were you gonna say something?
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  Unknown: No. No. But
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  last time can I just interrupt for a second and ask a question?
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  During this top of the hour thing, you got distracted in a conversation with somebody, and and you were gone for the rest of the show.
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  Was that a client of yours or one of our students?
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  Unknown: I don't remember. I do remember Cody was on.
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  Unknown: Cody was on. He was still on. You were gone.
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  Unknown: Yeah. But I and what happened was that my signal dropped, and I couldn't get it back. Finally got it back, then I couldn't I couldn't be heard.
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  But I don't remember who I was talking to or exactly what was going it was a client of yours that you might have had another phone or something. No. No. That wasn't what happened. I my signal just dropped.
• 25:30
  Oh, talked to somebody. Somebody called, but I that didn't land whatever it was,
• 25:36
  Unknown: but my signal dropped. Dropped. Okay. Well, that's I wanted you because you were a hoarse last week. Your voice is back.
• 25:44
  Yeah.
• 25:45
  I would like to I was so smitten with what you read us in the first part of the show with your bad voice.
• 25:53
  A cordo Cordova?
• 25:55
  Cordoza?
• 25:56
  Unknown: Oh, no. It was, what was the five US Supreme Court justices
• 26:00
  that were Jewish, and it was a lecture, I believe, by a Yes. By by a a
• 26:06
  DC appellate court judge
• 26:09
  that was lecturing
• 26:10
  at Lewis and Clark Law School. That's out west.
• 26:14
  Lewis and Clark Law School lecturing
• 26:16
  on what
• 26:18
  what is the foundation.
• 26:20
  Again,
• 26:21
  religion.
• 26:22
  He made the point. It's their Jewish religion of the Talmud that's at the foundation of everything they decided that was at point.
• 26:31
  Unknown: And That's kinda what I wanted to do because your voice was wasn't not perfect.
• 26:38
  At some point
• 26:39
  and because you said
• 26:41
  this is what really struck me.
• 26:43
  That's not printed anywhere. You had a friend that was in that lecture and sent you a a recording, and you transcribed it.
• 26:50
  Unknown: And by what?
• 26:51
  Transcribed it. Oh, right. I did. Uh-huh. And by habit.
• 26:56
  Unknown: So this is not public information. It's public somewhere. We're privy
• 27:01
  to a a lecture that was given on this very viable and important topic
• 27:06
  that nobody else has.
• 27:08
  Unknown: No. And I
• 27:09
  I it may be printed somewhere. I'm trying to find it.
• 27:14
  Or it was about at that time, that lecture was delivered in 1988
• 27:20
  at Lewis and Clark Law School.
• 27:23
  Judge Abner
• 27:24
  Abner Mikva,
• 27:28
  DC Circuit
• 27:29
  federal appellate judge,
• 27:31
  and the lecture was about the five
• 27:34
  Jewish Mikva's
• 27:35
  Jewish as well. Of course. Jewish Supreme Court justices that had been on the bench up to that point. Louis Brandeis,
• 27:44
  Benjamin Cardozo,
• 27:46
  Felix Frankfurter,
• 27:48
  Arthur Goldberg,
• 27:49
  and Abe Fortes.
• 27:51
  Mhmm. And all five of these fellows
• 27:54
  were born of Jewish mothers. Now just to make the distinction,
• 27:58
  Barry Goldwater's
• 28:00
  father
• 28:01
  was a Hungarian
• 28:03
  Jew named
• 28:04
  Goldwasser.
• 28:06
  Yeah. Goldwasser,
• 28:08
  which means, in German,
• 28:10
  Goldwater.
• 28:12
  And when Barry's father
• 28:14
  Barry Goldwasser's father here got here, he was headed for the gold rush in California,
• 28:20
  and he opened up a dry goods store. And his his partner, when they had a little money in the till, he took it and left, and that left him high and dry. And then he moved to Prescott, Arizona.
• 28:31
  There was a gold rush going on there, you know, in the gold fields. Whoever has the money when it's all over,
• 28:37
  wins. And so the miners mine the gold, and then everybody else mines the miners. That's the way it works. Right. Yeah. Oh, no kidding. Yeah. I mean Yeah. Yeah. So that's what happened. But then Barry,
• 28:49
  that was his grandfather.
• 28:51
  No. Barry's father ran that dry goods store, and then Barry inherited it.
• 28:56
  But he was doing real well there in Prescott. Prescott's the county seat, the Yavapai County, a small place. I used to work for a lawyer there. Fascinating experience.
• 29:05
  But,
• 29:07
  Barry then, somebody got the bright idea. Well, Barry needs to
• 29:12
  or I need to open a a department store because Scottsdale,
• 29:16
  Arizona's where the elite meet to eat pig's feet, as they say, and there's a lot of money there. It's growing. You know, they used to say you could fly over that area in an airplane and just throw a a handkerchief or something out the window or bandana.
• 29:31
  And wherever it lands, that money's gonna be worth triple and quadruple pretty quick.
• 29:36
  Well, he moved there and opened up with the money he had. My dry goods store opened up a small,
• 29:43
  department store. Really, what he started selling was women's lingerie
• 29:47
  instead of dry goods. Lex Wexner.
• 29:50
  Oh, yeah. He just made a fortune. You know? Then the depart Goldwater is a big department store.
• 29:55
  Lived there, and I think I told the story when I was out there in the mining business. I was staying at a remote place, and it was a there was a dude ranch out in the middle of the desert, and and I I knew about I'd drive by it. You know? And then I was staying in this place where you could stay pretty cheap,
• 30:14
  and,
• 30:15
  I had my partner with me, and he was my mining partner. And I got up one morning and had my T shirt on and opened the door, and, of course, the desert was blooming, and I was looking out and rubbing my belly and rubbing my eyes. And a little old man was on the sidewalk walking along in front of me and had his head down walking with a cane. And he threw his head up and said,
• 30:38
  how are you doing this morning, son?
• 30:41
  And,
• 30:42
  I when I saw his face, I knew who it was. Yeah. Goldwater has distinctive
• 30:47
  features.
• 30:48
  It was Barry Goldwater.
• 30:50
  Well, he got in a van with a woman and a who I figured it was his daughter, another man. They left. Well,
• 30:58
  my partner and I said, well, shoot.
• 31:00
  Oh, we gotta talk to this guy. And so we we noticed
• 31:04
  he'd he was there a couple of weeks. Small place. We noticed when he come back in the evening, we'd try to be back down off the hill to maybe talk to him. Well,
• 31:13
  all you gotta do with a guy like that, turn switch on, he's a politician. He can talk Sure. Off and tell stories. Oh, boy. And he'd tell a story after story, and he'd wanna. He said, where are you boys from? And he'd look at our license plate, and then he got to telling us about his mother. Of course, his mother wasn't Jewish. His father was. See?
• 31:34
  And he'd
• 31:35
  talk about his mother, he said, was the first registered nurse in Arizona territory.
• 31:40
  And then he told about how his
• 31:44
  granddad had taken him out to the stage stops. See, I think Goldwater was born in nineteen o nine.
• 31:51
  And so at that time, it was a stage line that ran from
• 31:55
  Wickenburg,
• 31:56
  named after Henry. He was an Austrian a German speaking Austrian prospector
• 32:02
  that found,
• 32:04
  the outcrop sticking out of the ground on a Torrock, as they say in Wales,
• 32:08
  and it had gold in it. And then that became the largest
• 32:12
  deepest and largest deep mine in Arizona. It's still there, by the way. Well
• 32:17
  yeah.
• 32:19
  So
• 32:21
  Goldwater,
• 32:24
  he'd tell stories a bit about being at the stage stop out down the road from Wickenburg back to what is now Phoenix,
• 32:32
  and he talked about Henry Wickenburg owned his owed his granddad $30,000.
• 32:37
  Of course, that was a chunk of change back then.
• 32:40
  And, he didn't have any money. Wickenburg eventually died without a a pen in his pocket. Isn't that something? Yes. Biggest gold mine, and, he had got abandoned. He was out desert. He threw a rock at a buzzard that was waiting to pick his eyes out,
• 32:55
  and it broke a chunk off of that tore rock sticking up out of the desert floor. And he got looking at it, and he saw some color in it as the miners. But if you see sparkle
• 33:06
  Yeah. Yellow sparkle,
• 33:08
  that's not gold. See? They don't say sparkle.
• 33:11
  They say color.
• 33:12
  Because you pass your hand over
• 33:14
  if you pass your hand over gold in a pan or a a nugget or something in the broad sunlight, the hot sunlight of the clear sky of Arizona,
• 33:24
  you pass your hand over gold,
• 33:26
  it has a luster, and that luster won't go away even when you put your hand over it and block the sun. It's a luster.
• 33:33
  It's color. It's not sparkle. If you see sparkles,
• 33:37
  what you've got is the flat face of a crystal, and that's not gold does
• 33:42
  have a crystal, but seldom is it ever found in crystalline form because it's so soft. If it breaks out of the formation and tumbles down in the creek or the river or down the hillside, it doesn't take very long. The edges are worn off. You know? It's rounded and soft.
• 33:58
  So and if it's in the pan and it moves around when you're sloshing the pan around, like they say, if it if it runs, don't chase it. It ain't gold because gold in the pan doesn't run. It's Doesn't run. Yeah. It just sticks. Yeah. It just stays right down. Yeah. You know, it's 90 well, yeah, 19.1
• 34:16
  times approximately
• 34:18
  19.1
• 34:19
  times heavier than water per volume. So if you had a cup of,
• 34:25
  of gold in liquid form sitting on one side of the scale, it would take 19.1
• 34:31
  cups of water on the other side of the scale to balance it because it's that thick.
• 34:36
  You know, it's said, and nobody's ever done it, of course, but the
• 34:40
  chemists and the mathematicians
• 34:43
  figure this out. They say you could take
• 34:45
  an ounce of gold and pound it if you can have the patience and enough years. You could take a hammer and pound it in in a pound it into a a wire a mile long, and it wouldn't break.
• 34:56
  It'd be thin wire, but it's that thick. And it it, of course, conducts electricity,
• 35:02
  and that's the great value of it now more than ever.
• 35:05
  It doesn't take much of it. Just thin molecules.
• 35:09
  You know? Well, at any rate,
• 35:11
  Goldwater telling me all these stories, and he'd say, well, read my book. I'd say, holy cow. Wow.
• 35:18
  That's something I never heard that. He'd say, well, read my book.
• 35:21
  And, he says, it's all in my book. I tell all these stories. Well, I got his book. The name of the book was
• 35:29
  Without Apology.
• 35:31
  Yes.
• 35:32
  Yes. Yeah. Without Apology. He wrote it when he was running for presidency.
• 35:36
  But isn't it something you run for president and wildly popular as a conservative,
• 35:41
  you know, and
• 35:42
  Unknown: and I remember that
• 35:44
  a young man, and I remember his
• 35:47
  saying,
• 35:48
  which grabbed a hold back then,
• 35:52
  short to the point extremism
• 35:54
  in the defense of liberty is no vice.
• 35:58
  Unknown: Say it again?
• 36:00
  Unknown: Extremism
• 36:01
  Yeah. In the defense of liberty
• 36:04
  is no vice.
• 36:07
  Unknown: Yeah. Yeah. I
• 36:09
  get it.
• 36:10
  Extreme virtue is good. I mean, there are some things that are not limited to, very few, but I get the point. Yeah. I remember him saying those kind of things too.
• 36:18
  Well,
• 36:19
  he,
• 36:20
  of course,
• 36:22
  he was there because
• 36:24
  his daughter and his son-in-law had a boy that was in a
• 36:29
  drug rehabilitation
• 36:30
  program at that,
• 36:32
  at that dude ranch. That's why they were there. Otherwise, he had no reason. But he, of course, he was addicted to telling stories and talking to people, and so he couldn't resist.
• 36:43
  Anybody who said listen, couple of young men like us, shucks, he just talked nonstop.
• 36:49
  And finally,
• 36:51
  he said his grand,
• 36:53
  Henry Wickenburg,
• 36:54
  who, by the way, died penniless,
• 36:56
  and then he he killed himself. You know? That's the way that works.
• 37:00
  A terrible, terrible and buried in a grave right outside of town. I happened upon it walking at a friend's house once, and it said something about a grave up on this knob in the desert. I walked, and there's a grave out all by itself. Henry Wickenburg.
• 37:14
  Well, Henry
• 37:16
  owed
• 37:18
  his grand he told me this. So my granddad $30,000,
• 37:22
  he didn't know what else to do. So he said, well, I'll just give you that mine.
• 37:27
  The most productive deep mine in the state of Arizona, he gave it Yikes.
• 37:32
  To his grandpa. Now this is how it works. To Bob Barry's
• 37:36
  Unknown: granddad?
• 37:37
  Yeah.
• 37:38
  Unknown: Okay. The one that came that came to the gold rush in California from
• 37:42
  Hungary.
• 37:43
  Unknown: Ah, okay. Uh-huh.
• 37:45
  What? No. I just said, okay. I'm trying to follow the story and get all the facts right. Oh, yeah. So he
• 37:52
  Unknown: said he went down in that mine,
• 37:54
  and this has been about the time of Arizona statehood, see.
• 37:58
  Because Arizona
• 37:59
  became a state. It was the last before Alaska and Hawaii, it was Arizona.
• 38:03
  Oh, okay. 1912,
• 38:05
  Arizona became a state.
• 38:08
  He said he went down down into that mine, and so it would have been about that time. He was just a boy. He said, I remember you could take a pen knife and cut the gold out of the quartz vein down there. We had lights went down in it.
• 38:20
  But
• 38:21
  he told me about that time that, of course, Arizona became a state. And when when they were a territory,
• 38:28
  they as the constitution says, you have one representative
• 38:31
  you can send to congress, to the house of representatives,
• 38:34
  and he has the power of debate, but he has no vote. That's the way it's written up.
• 38:40
  And, of course, when they became a state, well, then they had the
• 38:45
  congressmen. They sent just one.
• 38:48
  They did rated one. And then they had two senators.
• 38:51
  Twos. Every state has two United States senators to send to the senile chamber, as I call it,
• 38:59
  and,
• 39:00
  Unknown: they sent them. Or they were You it you call it the almost the dead chamber now.
• 39:07
  Unknown: Oh, man.
• 39:09
  Paul.
• 39:10
  Okay. They're they're caught in a corner on this one. These are things I wanna discuss after you're finished with your story here. Oh, you're gonna say what Barry told me. I mean, if I don't repeat these stories, what good are these? Barry Goldwater telling me this. He said Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Knew that they sent these senators
• 39:27
  to the US senate, and one of them was relatively
• 39:32
  young. He got up to make his maiden speech and pounded the books and pounded the table and quoted everything from pathos to bathos to blasphemy,
• 39:43
  as they say.
• 39:45
  And he ended with a whoop for the free bird of America, and then he said,
• 39:50
  gentlemen,
• 39:51
  this is what Goldwater told me. Gentlemen,
• 39:55
  all we need in this state
• 39:58
  is
• 40:00
  people
• 40:01
  and water.
• 40:03
  And some old
• 40:04
  some old crusty senator
• 40:07
  putting up with all of it he'd heard all of before,
• 40:10
  he piped up and said, if I'm not mistaken,
• 40:13
  senator, that's all they need in hell.
• 40:16
  He's the water,
• 40:18
  open gaping maw of hells,
• 40:20
  crying
• 40:21
  for
• 40:22
  people. Well,
• 40:24
  finally,
• 40:26
  he ended up with this story, and I I used to tell this when I was running for congress.
• 40:31
  And I I could tell it because I'd said and it's true. Burt Burt Goldwater told it to me,
• 40:38
  and I'll tell it kinda like he told it.
• 40:41
  So he said he
• 40:44
  he had that
• 40:46
  department store in,
• 40:48
  Scottsdale. Scottsdale. Of course, that's where all the
• 40:51
  money was and the rich folk and the fancy country club.
• 40:55
  And he wanted to be a part of the of the elite group, and so we'd go out to the country club and play golf, try to get to know the boys out there.
• 41:04
  And, he did a lot. He got to know a lot of them. He wanted to be a part of that Scottsdale Country Club.
• 41:11
  And he said he was out with one of his buddies once and playing.
• 41:14
  Of course, it was a closed membership.
• 41:17
  He had to have friends, and
• 41:19
  they got out playing on the green. And finally, he said his buddy put his arm around his shoulder and said, dang gum it, Barry.
• 41:27
  He said, man, we like you out here at this country club. You're you're one of us.
• 41:33
  And conservative
• 41:34
  and you're
• 41:35
  self sufficient and working hard, got your business going, and we want you to join this country club. Of course, he said that. He laid it. He's about ready to pop a button, he'd said.
• 41:47
  But then this guy said, but we got a problem, Barry. Daggum it. We got a problem.
• 41:52
  He said, but what is it? He said, you're half Jew.
• 41:56
  Now Barry Goldwater telling me this. Of course, his father was Jewish, see.
• 42:00
  You're half Jew, and you know how it is out here. This is a conservative state,
• 42:06
  and we don't we don't want any
• 42:08
  well, we just don't know what people think we'd let you join.
• 42:13
  And,
• 42:15
  he said, but because we like you so much and I talk to the boys and all, we're
• 42:20
  gonna
• 42:21
  have a compromise here.
• 42:23
  This is a 18 hole golf course. Now this is Goldwater talking.
• 42:29
  18 hole golf course, and,
• 42:32
  we can let you join, but you can only
• 42:34
  since you're half Jew, you can only play nine holes.
• 42:38
  That was the compromise. I think I've told that story on here before. No. I don't think so. I've never heard this. Go ahead. No. Of course, then he looked at me with kind of a funny smile, but I'll bet
• 42:49
  they really did say that to him,
• 42:52
  bedeviling him.
• 42:53
  And they let of course, he joined the country club. They did like him. And then, of course, Ed Ed Dirksen.
• 42:59
  Everett Dirksen, senator from Illinois, a minority leader,
• 43:03
  talked him into running for United States senator,
• 43:06
  and and he did. And he won, and he was there for a long, long time.
• 43:12
  But that was Barry Goldwater. Yeah. A backdrop.
• 43:15
  Unknown: And I'll tell you what we have mentioned, Don, is my recollection
• 43:19
  of that period of my life in the sixties. I was high school,
• 43:24
  and I remember that campaign.
• 43:27
  And I remember the the the Democratic
• 43:30
  ad
• 43:31
  and talk about political dirty tricksterism. I mean, it just it still has an indelible effect on me.
• 43:38
  How hey. What? Seventy seventy year years later,
• 43:43
  it's a little girl.
• 43:44
  She's about, I don't know, two, three. Got a daisy,
• 43:48
  and she's picking the daisy flowers off.
• 43:52
  Oh, yeah. Yeah. In the background, the atomic bomb goes off.
• 43:57
  And and the the audio was
• 44:00
  in your guts.
• 44:01
  Unknown: You know he's nuts. Yeah. It was a mushroom cloud. Remember? Yeah. I am. Mushroom cloud and becoming explosive. Well, Goldwater,
• 44:10
  you gotta be careful what you say.
• 44:12
  He gave him an opening. He said that he would consider, if he was elected,
• 44:17
  using,
• 44:18
  tactical nuclear
• 44:20
  warheads
• 44:21
  in Southeast Asia.
• 44:23
  Unknown: Mhmm.
• 44:24
  Unknown: And, then they took that, and and who knows? They're fired from artillery. You know? And guess what? We're about to see tactical nuclear in
• 44:34
  Unknown: in that part of the world. We're about to see it.
• 44:37
  Unknown: Yeah. Yeah.
• 44:39
  I swear. Well,
• 44:41
  Unknown: Roger, I'll leave it up to you then. Alright. Well, hold on. I got a couple things I wanna run past you. Paul is wanting to ask or add something, so, of course, we're gonna defer to him.
• 44:53
  Unknown: Well, I just have a question. I mean, once
• 44:56
  Barry Coldwater became a senator,
• 44:58
  did they let him play the other nine?
• 45:04
  Unknown: I I don't you know,
• 45:06
  I think that the way I kind of took it from him, he kinda had to give me a funny grin.
• 45:11
  He was telling me a story that was probably true that that really happened,
• 45:16
  but it didn't really happen that they limited him and they Exactly.
• 45:20
  Unknown: Yeah. That, you know, that was all He just you were beveling him. Uh-huh. He was using the leverage as humor. It's very interesting.
• 45:27
  Or, Paul, I thought maybe the next time he came, he could play the other night.
• 45:32
  He just alternate nights.
• 45:34
  Unknown: They were he was telling me a story. He was using himself as the brunt of a joke because his father was Jewish,
• 45:42
  and he was using himself for the brunt of the joke
• 45:46
  to make me like him. And I I kinda did. You know? I did like the guy. I like a guy that'll tell me stories that'll keep me interested, and maybe I'll learn something worthwhile.
• 45:58
  Unknown: If he wasn't likable, he'd never made it to senator. That's exactly the case, and that's true of every scumbag that's in there too. It's up there. Well, okay. Then let's transition
• 46:08
  halfway,
• 46:09
  half step.
• 46:10
  You know what's going on with McConnell right now. Right? What's happening?
• 46:15
  Unknown: You don't know? He's got a connection with through his wife with the Chinese or something? Evidently, he's brain dead.
• 46:23
  Unknown: Had a stroke or something in the middle of June. They ran him to George Washington, whatever hospital up there,
• 46:31
  and nobody's
• 46:32
  seen him or heard from him since, although there are people that claim
• 46:37
  they're talking with him about very cogent conversations
• 46:42
  on all these things that are so important.
• 46:45
  Here's the deal.
• 46:46
  Uh-huh. If he doesn't if he is dead
• 46:51
  let's see if I August 3 is the drop dead date.
• 46:55
  Oh, they're
• 46:56
  trying to get him declared dead now because then they have to open
• 47:01
  for an election.
• 47:03
  Unknown: Yeah. They they let elect that congressman that just got thrown out.
• 47:07
  Unknown: Exactly.
• 47:08
  Exactly.
• 47:09
  So that so that's why he hadn't been seen, and all the people go, well, can't we just let's get a video in there. What happened? Can't he just pick up the phone and talk? How about a picture with the today's newspaper on it? You know? All that? Uh-uh.
• 47:23
  So they're trying to avoid that. Well, that's going on right now. So that's incredibly
• 47:28
  topical.
• 47:30
  And, of course, we know you're a gold man because that's how you got started in this
• 47:34
  whole shooting match was out there looking for the, the noble medal.
• 47:39
  Never heard that story about that that mine, though. The guy threw a rock at a buzzard, and it broke off part of another rock, and he found the gold. That's that's
• 47:49
  startling.
• 47:50
  Unknown: K? Yeah. That's normal. That's the way it usually happens when some big strike happens. And then usually the guy that finds it, not always, but often
• 47:58
  Uh-huh. He dies penniless. That really happens.
• 48:01
  Unknown: Yeah. Now
• 48:02
  do you know, and I'm sure you don't. It's a rhetorical question. What happened this week? China
• 48:08
  made an announcement. It came out yesterday. It still hadn't been publicly announced.
• 48:12
  If we didn't have our ear to the ground on all these alternate metal guys, we we wouldn't know it either.
• 48:19
  China announced the last couple of days.
• 48:22
  As of July
• 48:24
  24,
• 48:25
  there will be no more gold or silver bought with futures paper.
• 48:30
  You want gold or silver? You gotta go to a dealer. You gotta buy the metal straight. There is no paper in between.
• 48:37
  They have effectively
• 48:39
  yanked the feet out from under our guys and their favorite trick
• 48:44
  of controlling futures with naked shorts.
• 48:48
  That evidently is gonna be gone pretty quick. Dramatic,
• 48:52
  I don't know what all the repercussions are gonna be. I think it'll drive the price up.
• 48:56
  Uh-huh.
• 48:58
  And, we'll we'll just see. But there's the couple of pretty important things that are happening.
• 49:03
  Uh-huh. Among among a myriad of others. Don't let me minimalize anything because,
• 49:09
  man, we're in some
• 49:11
  treacherous waters right now.
• 49:13
  Unknown: Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
• 49:15
  Well, I I have a hard time believing that
• 49:18
  we can't open the straits. That does seem to be political baloney.
• 49:23
  We have the ability to open those straits. Well,
• 49:27
  Unknown: what happened that started this all again
• 49:30
  is the Iranians
• 49:32
  sunk or or or or attacked a couple of ships in the straight. I don't know where they sunk them. I you know, it's the middle of July,
• 49:40
  and a bunch of people who would ordinarily
• 49:43
  have the shows that would cover this. Well, they're off on vacation.
• 49:47
  So,
• 49:48
  and and Alex is going through his transition. We don't have a morning show. So information,
• 49:55
  is is a little scarce.
• 49:57
  Unknown: Well, see, we have
• 50:00
  we have what they call special warfare.
• 50:02
  You know, the
• 50:04
  Green Berets, the Rangers, the Army, or the Sure. Marine Marine Corps Recon,
• 50:09
  the Navy,
• 50:11
  UDTs
• 50:12
  and SEAL teams. And but there's a a there's other special
• 50:16
  spec we call them they call spec warfare
• 50:19
  in in the military. There's other spec warfare units nobody hears about. That's right. They aren't even they're not even spoken of. I know. They're yeah. We call and the military said, well, they're Hollywood. And they are. The the spec warfare units you hear about more than any others are the Navy SEALs. Well, that's all Hollywood now. Really, it doesn't. Those guys are big promotions is what they are. They're not they're just trained assassins that they make a lot of to do recruitment.
• 50:46
  But there are others out there
• 50:48
  that are they don't they're not spoken of and they aren't heard of. And one of them is the harbor defense units
• 50:54
  of the US Navy.
• 50:56
  They're called harbor defense units.
• 50:58
  And what these guys do is they go in
• 51:02
  to,
• 51:03
  enemy territory and take over a harbor and they hold it. Yeah. Then they they've got it down to a science
• 51:11
  how to do this.
• 51:12
  And then they hold it until it's like, like, the paratroopers going in beforehand and taking the bridges,
• 51:19
  you know, so that when the troops come through, they've already
• 51:22
  the the they're they can just keep moving. Well, that's a special warfare kind of thing too. But what's that, Roger? No. I was agreeing with you. I'm just picturing that stuff in my mind. Sorry to interrupt.
• 51:33
  Harbor defense is one of those. And don't tell me, yeah, I don't believe it, that we can't open those straits.
• 51:40
  We've got the capability
• 51:42
  to do all of that stuff, do it quickly, do it effectively,
• 51:45
  and do it permanently.
• 51:47
  And if they're saying we can't, no. There's politics going on here. They're playing things for political advantage.
• 51:54
  That's all true, by the way. Always. Go ahead, Roger.
• 51:57
  Unknown: Well, I this is another element of all that.
• 52:00
  China and Russia are not gonna let Iran fall.
• 52:06
  Unknown: Why not?
• 52:08
  Unknown: Because of the dependency
• 52:10
  they have on its product
• 52:12
  and also because their allies, China and Iran,
• 52:16
  have huge contracts,
• 52:19
  and Russia has
• 52:21
  been supplying them and friends with them. They almost have bordering
• 52:25
  territories,
• 52:28
  and, they're just not gonna let them fall. They're not gonna let them fall to Israel and the and the West.
• 52:33
  Unknown: Well, this gets more complex, and that's why I say politics figure into it. All these jobs could be done quickly, and that's what people want, but it doesn't happen. China's dependent upon us almost exclusively,
• 52:45
  really. We give them more money, more trade than anybody in the world. Without us, the all their sweatshops would shut down, and they wouldn't have anything. Mhmm. And, the other rest of the world is does business with them, but we're the ones that got more money than anybody, and we're spending it there.
• 53:02
  So they've got that going, and they gotta be careful. The rescues don't wanna get squared off with us. They they don't have anything. By the way, the Chinese don't have that either.
• 53:12
  The Russians got their hands full in Ukraine right now. Yeah. And the Chinese are a big paper tiger. They don't have the power that the promotion promoters are saying they do. They're pretty weak, frankly,
• 53:23
  militarily as all communist systems are. We found that out with Russia. They were bluffing for decades.
• 53:30
  And finally, the whole thing is just they can't keep up that bluff for forever, and it all fell apart. They're they're not where we are, not even a little bit, neither one of them. But they don't you make a good point. They don't wanna lose.
• 53:44
  Unknown: But the fact is there's nothing flowing out of there right now to amount to anything. Well, Russia's been the real benefactor out of all this, man. They they just opened up the petroleum
• 53:53
  taps.
• 53:54
  They're the ones where a lot of these countries are now getting the supply they used to get from Iran. Yeah. But they can't fill the rest of the urea
• 54:03
  and the sulfur
• 54:04
  and the other things that are very critical
• 54:07
  that are not being passed through the straight. On top of helium.
• 54:12
  Who would think out of all that mess
• 54:15
  that helium would become so critical?
• 54:19
  Unknown: Yeah. You know, the only helium source in the world for a long, long, long
• 54:24
  time was the Texas Panhandle.
• 54:27
  From the nineteen twenties right on up through the seventies. Yeah.
• 54:31
  And I all know that. Hard to find it, apparently, but Mhmm. You need to find it in massive enough amounts that
• 54:38
  that you don't have to spend money.
• 54:41
  Unknown: You you know why it's so critical now, don't you? Why is it?
• 54:45
  It's used in the production of these high speed computer chips.
• 54:50
  Unknown: Ah, yeah.
• 54:51
  There it is.
• 54:52
  Unknown: K. So the So and here's the thing. If this drags on
• 54:57
  Yeah. And then people are talking like it's gonna
• 55:01
  into, say, next spring
• 55:06
  Man, the the the results of that are catastrophic catastrophic
• 55:10
  in
• 55:11
  a lot of different areas. Most probably importantly
• 55:15
  is the elements
• 55:17
  that they use
• 55:19
  in the manufacturing
• 55:21
  process
• 55:22
  of petroleum
• 55:24
  to make diesel
• 55:26
  and
• 55:27
  jet fuel,
• 55:28
  and we've got about six weeks of that stuff left.
• 55:33
  Unknown: Well, we got more oil than anybody in the world. It's not the oil. It's not the oil.
• 55:38
  Unknown: It's the ingredients in the process that allow them to make diesel and
• 55:43
  and jet fuel. And, evidently, we've got some, but we don't have, well, like I said, six weeks left. There's some real critical things that are pivoting around this, and it's a
• 55:53
  Uh-huh.
• 55:54
  It's important. At least see, that's the things that I'm getting from what I I listen to. You know? Alright. And we only know what we listen to and read, and I I recognize that. I just don't believe much of it anymore. And as I get older, less and less. That's all. Well, we we'll I guess we're gonna find out because, man, it doesn't seem like they're gonna be making friends anytime soon.
• 56:16
  Unknown: Yeah. Yeah. Well, I I get your point. The important point is,
• 56:21
  and I'll say it again, I say it often,
• 56:24
  and this is my ultimate conclusion from an old guy who
• 56:28
  who,
• 56:29
  for what it's worth, just whatever I gather in my consciousness and my conclusions,
• 56:35
  that god will fight our battles.
• 56:38
  He promises to fight our battles
• 56:40
  if we maintain his order on on our side of the line.
• 56:44
  It is the order we maintain on our side of the line that drives the our enemies absolutely insane and makes them piss their pants.
• 56:53
  That's what happens. I'm not joking. When I say that, I've seen it.
• 56:57
  People are so wound up and bound up in their own whims and difficulties and their guilt
• 57:03
  that they're scared out of their wits.
• 57:06
  They got lots of money.
• 57:08
  They got lots of power, his position and power often,
• 57:12
  but they're running absolutely
• 57:14
  terrified.
• 57:15
  As the Bible says, they tremble
• 57:17
  when no man pursues.
• 57:19
  They run
• 57:21
  when no man pursues. And the reason that happens, according to the Bible,
• 57:25
  is because
• 57:27
  they see order
• 57:29
  and tranquility
• 57:31
  on our side of the line,
• 57:34
  and they don't know what to do they don't know what to do, it scares them because they know deep down inside
• 57:40
  that order always wins. And when I say order, I mean
• 57:45
  the delegation and the flow of authority being proper.
• 57:49
  I had a lady ask me. I went to two services,
• 57:53
  both of them World War two veterans.
• 57:55
  One of them was 99, the other one was a 100. So we're talking boys
• 58:00
  that went to war, both of them.
• 58:03
  And I was at one of them. It was graveside service. And,
• 58:07
  of course, they had the VFW
• 58:08
  there, or they did a bang up job as old men carrying rifles and showing due respect.
• 58:16
  But, then we had a little get together at the VFW
• 58:19
  because that old fellow at 99,
• 58:21
  he was he'd always been the unofficial head of the VFW,
• 58:25
  well, for decades. I've known him for decades.
• 58:28
  And I went there, and he's had five or six daughters and three or four sons. I forget. But
• 58:34
  we're sitting at the table eating the
• 58:37
  Midwest cooking they had there, you know, fried chicken and gravy,
• 58:41
  and it was really good, Roger. I have to say, bad for you, but it was fun to eat for a while. Corn and green beans, you know, with bacon in it and all that.
• 58:51
  And succotash,
• 58:52
  a little bit of that. If you don't know what that is, somebody listening, they can look yummy.
• 58:59
  Unknown: The only thing they didn't have was, fried okra, but that was Alright. Hold on. Now, Brent, we're gonna we're gonna stop at the dinner here
• 59:07
  and have this little two minute interlude,
• 59:10
  and, hopefully,
• 59:11
  you'll come back on the other side.
• 59:13
  Lord, will. We're eating dinner at the fallen dinner of the honoring the fallen young soldiers, and Paul's gonna say more. Thank you. See you in a minute. For the Radio Ranch with Roger Sails on
• 59:26
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• 59:31
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• 59:36
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• 59:42
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• 1:01:09
  And we're back.
• 1:01:12
  Unknown: There we go. We were eating now. When we last were speaking,
• 1:01:17
  this is new.
• 1:01:18
  We were, having dinner in the Midwest over
• 1:01:22
  honoring a fallen soldier with some other folks, and Brent was telling us about the,
• 1:01:28
  with some succotash.
• 1:01:30
  We had some succotash and green beans and all that stuff that is so good and really probably real bad for you. So if you can pick it up there, Brent, we'll just move forward.
• 1:01:43
  Uh-oh. Can we lose Brent again?
• 1:01:46
  I hope I hope this isn't a weekly deal,
• 1:01:49
  Paul.
• 1:01:52
  Brent, are you there? He's there. He's He's off. Oh, he ran off to the bathroom. Oh, no. No. I've been waxing eloquent, and my mic was off. Oh my goodness gracious. Okay. Now there's the reason. Okay. Well, you got the scenario. There we are. Pick it up right there, Brent. Yeah. So I was sitting at the table there at the VFW
• 1:02:12
  Unknown: in this
• 1:02:13
  little town by the name of Sullivan.
• 1:02:17
  And I I was in that little town. I was state's attorney for thirty glorious days. Oh, okay.
• 1:02:24
  Thirty days. Boy, did I learn a lot in a little tiny town, but
• 1:02:28
  I was sitting across from one of
• 1:02:30
  his this this old fellow that passed away, one of his daughters,
• 1:02:36
  And they're just
• 1:02:37
  peach peaches of people. I like them, him and his daughters and his
• 1:02:42
  sons.
• 1:02:44
  And she looked at me out of the blue and said, Brent. I said, what?
• 1:02:48
  She said, what do you think about all these women running government now in the courts? Uh-oh.
• 1:02:54
  And I said,
• 1:02:56
  just out of the blue, just I was eating my fried chicken there, and and
• 1:03:01
  I said, well, it's a judgment of God upon us.
• 1:03:05
  She says, is there a place in the Bible where it says that?
• 1:03:09
  I said, yeah. I'll write it down on a napkin here for you.
• 1:03:13
  Isaiah chapter three verse 12. When I gave her that, I didn't make any comments.
• 1:03:18
  I just figured I'm not trying to convince anybody.
• 1:03:21
  It's what the book says. Do you believe the book? Great. If you don't, well, that's your problem. I wouldn't advise
• 1:03:29
  rejecting the evidence.
• 1:03:31
  King Jimmy's boys translate it this way, as for my people
• 1:03:36
  my people, that means the militiamen, that does not mean the women, by the way.
• 1:03:41
  Ham is the Hebrew word in the possessor in yeah. Possessive first person.
• 1:03:47
  And the the word always means the
• 1:03:50
  the band of armed men. It could be a large one, a small one, but it's always the men, not the women.
• 1:03:56
  As for my people,
• 1:03:58
  children,
• 1:04:00
  and not just children, the Hebrew word means mocking children, foolish children,
• 1:04:05
  are their oppressors,
• 1:04:08
  and women
• 1:04:09
  rule over them.
• 1:04:11
  Oh, my people, says God,
• 1:04:15
  those who lead you cause you to and
• 1:04:19
  destroy
• 1:04:21
  the roadway
• 1:04:24
  of your paths.
• 1:04:26
  This is the judgment of God. You're watching it with your own eyes, friends, neighbors, and kin.
• 1:04:32
  You're watching it with your own eyes. God brings his judgment.
• 1:04:36
  This is the judgment of God upon his people. You're watching it here now.
• 1:04:41
  Is it something
• 1:04:42
  that won't hurt? No. It will destroy.
• 1:04:45
  Utterly.
• 1:04:47
  God will use it to destroy unless
• 1:04:50
  my people, there's the militia again,
• 1:04:53
  who are called by my names,
• 1:04:55
  it says in Chronicles
• 1:04:57
  seven fourteen,
• 1:04:59
  who are called by my name shall humble themselves
• 1:05:03
  and pray
• 1:05:04
  that I will be their god.
• 1:05:06
  I will be their lawgiver.
• 1:05:08
  I will be their final arbiter of right and wrong from whose decision there is no appeal.
• 1:05:14
  And they shall be my
• 1:05:17
  armed forces,
• 1:05:18
  my militiamen.
• 1:05:20
  That's what the book says. We as militiamen
• 1:05:23
  are the rulers in God's way of doing things
• 1:05:26
  of countries. Well, how do we do it? We have two jobs. Two jobs only. These two jobs
• 1:05:33
  and no others. These two jobs and no more.
• 1:05:37
  We are to defend our oath of office holders, reflects our common law tradition. It's it's in the Bible too. We are to to
• 1:05:47
  defend
• 1:05:49
  the law of the land
• 1:05:51
  by being willing to serve on the jury, being final arbiters down here on land.
• 1:05:57
  And we are to defend the land by force of arms if necessary.
• 1:06:01
  That's the two jobs at common law and in the Bible
• 1:06:05
  of militiamen.
• 1:06:07
  To defend the land
• 1:06:09
  by force of arms if necessary,
• 1:06:12
  and to defend the law of the land by serving on the jury. Thus,
• 1:06:16
  the oath you've all heard,
• 1:06:19
  I swear
• 1:06:21
  loyalty, it comes in different forms,
• 1:06:24
  To our constitution of The United States and defend it against all enemies, foreign,
• 1:06:30
  that's being willingness to take up arms, and domestic,
• 1:06:34
  that's willingness to serve on the jury
• 1:06:36
  and defend the law of the land. And to defend the law of the land, our common law tradition,
• 1:06:42
  is to defend the land. And to defend the land
• 1:06:45
  is to defend the law of the land. You say, well, but, no, it says our constitution.
• 1:06:49
  Well, what is our constitution?
• 1:06:51
  It says, right, in article six, it is the law of the land.
• 1:06:55
  What is the law of the land? It is due process.
• 1:06:59
  It is not the result.
• 1:07:02
  Thou shalt not covet, lie, steal, commit adultery, or murder. That's god's
• 1:07:07
  jurisdiction
• 1:07:08
  to declare the outcome.
• 1:07:10
  But it he has delegated to us the process.
• 1:07:14
  How do you decide who's violated that law? How do you go about electing a chief executive, a congressman?
• 1:07:20
  How you go about it, not what the result's gonna be.
• 1:07:24
  We're to have fair elections.
• 1:07:27
  And god says, if you follow my process,
• 1:07:30
  my due process,
• 1:07:32
  my common law, my law of the land,
• 1:07:35
  I'll take care of the outcome.
• 1:07:37
  Your job is to follow the process to make sure elections are
• 1:07:42
  according to Hoyle,
• 1:07:44
  to make sure that due process is observed, that trial by jury is necessary, The right to remain silent remains
• 1:07:51
  available.
• 1:07:52
  The freedom against unreasonable,
• 1:07:55
  unwarranted
• 1:07:56
  searches and seizures. Don't let it happen.
• 1:08:00
  The right to free speech is held sacred.
• 1:08:03
  The right to contract
• 1:08:04
  is held sacred.
• 1:08:06
  That's process.
• 1:08:08
  That's not result oriented.
• 1:08:10
  That's not substance.
• 1:08:11
  It's process.
• 1:08:12
  That's our jurisdiction.
• 1:08:14
  God's jurisdiction
• 1:08:15
  is the result,
• 1:08:17
  the outcome,
• 1:08:18
  to put it into English.
• 1:08:19
  And if we will concentrate on that, God says, I'll fight your battles.
• 1:08:24
  But it's the judgment of God, everything else I do.
• 1:08:27
  You're on my land. You'll do it my way. That's his point. As parents would say to children, you live in my house, you do it my way, if they're talking right, or you're out.
• 1:08:37
  I'm not gonna have you in my house bucking my orders.
• 1:08:42
  My We need more of that. We need more of that. Yeah. And I'm not gonna have you, god says. He's the alodial landlord.
• 1:08:49
  I'm not gonna have you on my land
• 1:08:52
  when you're not even talking to me, but every year when you go to Christmas service or some crazy thing. You don't even pay attention to me. I'm not even part of your life. You don't acknowledge me.
• 1:09:04
  No. You're out of here. The land will vomit you, and I'll bring it about through things like it says here in the
• 1:09:12
  twelfth
• 1:09:13
  chapter
• 1:09:14
  or the third chapter. What is it? What did I say? Twelve three. The twelfth chapter,
• 1:09:20
  the third
• 1:09:21
  verse.
• 1:09:22
  That's
• 1:09:25
  Unknown: what's happening. Wake up and swallow the goat. Let the vomiting begin.
• 1:09:30
  Unknown: What'd
• 1:09:31
  Unknown: you say? I said let the vomiting begin.
• 1:09:35
  Unknown: No. The the land will vomit us out.
• 1:09:38
  Do you think that that hasn't happened before? That's how we got here. The land vomited out the former inhabitants. There aren't many of them. They were scattered.
• 1:09:47
  They their population dwindled.
• 1:09:50
  That's what god he'll do it to us just as quick. You think we're any better
• 1:09:55
  than tribal people that were here before that were homosexuals
• 1:09:59
  across the board, cannibals
• 1:10:01
  across the board, pervasive
• 1:10:04
  and everywhere.
• 1:10:05
  Unknown: Not the same. Folks that are at least equal. I don't know if they're worse or not. They're at least equal. You make a point. But we're no better than they are, friends.
• 1:10:14
  Unknown: No better than they are. And God isn't gonna give if he is willing to give somebody a break and not bring the consequences
• 1:10:23
  that he declares in his law,
• 1:10:25
  well, then there's no sense worshiping a god like that or acknowledging him at all.
• 1:10:30
  No. He doesn't he doesn't change.
• 1:10:33
  His consequences
• 1:10:34
  Unknown: are always there. Roger, what's? I want to ask something, Brent. You know how I am.
• 1:10:41
  Are you aware of this guy named Nick Fuentes?
• 1:10:45
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 1:10:47
  Unknown: And I know he's Catholic.
• 1:10:49
  You know? So, some other stuff. But this for 28 years old, this kid's sharp.
• 1:10:54
  Unknown: K? Oh, yeah. He's just stating the obvious.
• 1:10:58
  Unknown: And he's got a hell of an audience he's building up because of the eccentricity
• 1:11:02
  of some of his positions.
• 1:11:05
  Yeah. And I heard him Go ahead. Yeah. I heard him, he was on Alex this week for two hours one day,
• 1:11:12
  and he was going over what his goals are and what he's trying to achieve, and I was quite impressed.
• 1:11:19
  Okay? Yeah.
• 1:11:21
  Good. His audience
• 1:11:23
  is young
• 1:11:24
  men
• 1:11:25
  that are he is trying to keep into into into god's lockstep,
• 1:11:32
  but they are interested in and can achieve power.
• 1:11:35
  And he is really trying to filter out women. He'd be first women,
• 1:11:40
  everything else. I'm this is what I'm after. Guys like this and to try and hopefully maybe rebuild a foundation
• 1:11:49
  of some sort and some strength where we can get the cycle back where it's weak,
• 1:11:55
  weak men produce strong men. Okay? That's what we're trying what he's trying to do sounds like to me. You know, I just
• 1:12:02
  I'm continually impressed with this kid. 28 years old? I sure couldn't think like that.
• 1:12:09
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 1:12:11
  He is,
• 1:12:12
  half Mexican.
• 1:12:13
  Unknown: Yes.
• 1:12:14
  Unknown: I think he's half white, whatever that means, but he's he's Mexican, European, but Mexican. Mexican pretty much Mestizo anymore. I mean Yeah. Spaniard,
• 1:12:24
  but they're Indians. They're American Indians is what they are.
• 1:12:27
  And
• 1:12:28
  Unknown: And I don't know I don't know if he speaks Spanish.
• 1:12:32
  He might should have. The other thing that's very can you believe a man of this popularity and that stature
• 1:12:39
  would get on his platform at 28 years old and it and say, I'm a virgin?
• 1:12:45
  Unknown: Yeah. And, of course, you don't know if that's true, but I'll take his word for it just to be sociable.
• 1:12:51
  He doesn't wanna marry
• 1:12:53
  get married because he said all the women in America are fat, ugly, and mouthy. That's really what he says. I heard him say it. Now I'm not saying they are. I I see some attractive ones. Once ever well, not that often, doesn't seem like. But because
• 1:13:08
  of the spirit of the times,
• 1:13:11
  a rebellion has rebellion yeah. Warring against god. That's what the word means.
• 1:13:17
  Warring against true authority, spitting in the face of people that have authority. I'm not talking about people that claim to have authority.
• 1:13:25
  I'm talking about people whose position give them authority within a particular scope of jurisdiction.
• 1:13:31
  And, it's it's bad. But Nick,
• 1:13:35
  I don't know who he is. I don't know if he's to be trusted. Well, no. He's not to be trusted. Nobody's to be trusted but god.
• 1:13:41
  But I don't know how authentic he is. He's saying things. A lot of them are true. But, I've heard him say things that are a little bit well, I don't know, quite a bit dangerous too.
• 1:13:51
  But he's
• 1:13:53
  wait. Wait. If we're gonna say that men are to be strong, what does that mean, really? Does that mean they're supposed to beat people up and be thugs? No. It doesn't mean that. They're supposed to be like down there where you are, Roger, in South America. They're supposed to be macho and have a harem on the side. No. It doesn't mean that. That's weakness.
• 1:14:11
  Most of what men take for manliness, I've noticed, is weakness.
• 1:14:16
  What is? Well, we're talking here about a feminism.
• 1:14:19
  That's really what we're talking about. Well, indirectly.
• 1:14:23
  Yeah. They're either manly or they're womanly. Which is it?
• 1:14:28
  And there are varying degrees of that. We're struck now
• 1:14:31
  with all women and children rule women and children are your oppressors and women rule over you. And whose fault is that? Whose fault is that? It's not their fault. God's not gonna lay the blame at their feet. Go ahead, Roger. Well, I just can't help but every time that comes up, I think about being in Argentina
• 1:14:51
  Unknown: when Christina Kirschner was used presidenta.
• 1:14:55
  Yeah. She was
• 1:14:57
  presidenta
• 1:14:58
  for two terms.
• 1:15:00
  And,
• 1:15:01
  when she first got elected,
• 1:15:03
  the one of the very first things they did was pass legislation to get it every,
• 1:15:10
  school kid there, one of those little small 10 inch computers,
• 1:15:14
  portable computers.
• 1:15:16
  So she gave them that right off the bat, and then they put out an app.
• 1:15:21
  Cellphones were early. They put on an app that you could go to the store
• 1:15:27
  and see a high price,
• 1:15:29
  and all you had to do was snap it, and it would automatically send it to the government, and they'd come try and harass the owner for, inflation
• 1:15:37
  when they're the ones that are printing the money.
• 1:15:40
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 1:15:41
  Unknown: I couldn't believe it, man. I'm saying, good lord. I'm living the bible.
• 1:15:46
  Unknown: Yeah. And and, again,
• 1:15:48
  I stress this every time I say it so that people don't get the wrong idea.
• 1:15:53
  The women aren't aren't gonna answer for this, ultimately. The militiamen are gonna ask. The men are gonna answer for that. They always god lets them
• 1:16:02
  Unknown: sneak out the side door always.
• 1:16:05
  And, just like our, what's that, Roger? He lets the women sneak out the side door. They never get any culpability
• 1:16:12
  for all this stuff. It always comes back on us.
• 1:16:15
  Unknown: And god god's gonna do it that way because we're the ones responsible.
• 1:16:19
  That's why I tell people I teach the Bible. I say, look. I'm I'm not talking to the girls. I'm talking to the guys.
• 1:16:25
  The Bible is written to the guys,
• 1:16:28
  not not, foremost to the girl. Oh, it's all there for the girls.
• 1:16:33
  But get the point. The stress of the Bible is to the men because men
• 1:16:38
  are the problem in society.
• 1:16:40
  They're not doing their job. They're not standing fast. It started in the Garden Of Eden with our grandpa Adam,
• 1:16:47
  and the that's the theme. That's why the story is told first. And who did god blame for what happened in the garden? No. He
• 1:16:55
  upbraided
• 1:16:56
  our grandma, but then he went to Adam. He said, here's the problem. And by the way,
• 1:17:01
  Paul the apostle tells us in the New Testament
• 1:17:05
  that
• 1:17:06
  mankind
• 1:17:07
  did not fall into total depravity
• 1:17:10
  when our grandma,
• 1:17:12
  Eve,
• 1:17:13
  partook of the fruit.
• 1:17:15
  Mankind fell into total depravity when our grandpa did. Why? He tells us why.
• 1:17:21
  Because our grandma
• 1:17:23
  did not know what she was doing. She lacked, as do does the female, says Paul,
• 1:17:28
  the discernment
• 1:17:30
  of the male.
• 1:17:32
  There's a difference, a big difference.
• 1:17:35
  The woman has certain things that men don't have. I've been married fifty years,
• 1:17:41
  and I
• 1:17:42
  don't know everything about girls. I've got five daughters. I I learned a lot, though. I've learned a lot over the years. And I'll tell you for sure,
• 1:17:50
  I tell people women are more logical than men by far. You've heard those of you that listen have heard me say this. This is biblical.
• 1:17:57
  Women are more logical by men that by far and their logic is tighter.
• 1:18:02
  It's more acute
• 1:18:04
  as everything about them is. Matter of fact, women like to say the word cute.
• 1:18:08
  That's cute. Men don't say that. Women say it. Why? Well, of course, the word cute has to do with fineness.
• 1:18:15
  Like an acute
• 1:18:17
  angle is a small angle, a small thing,
• 1:18:21
  a fine thing. Women can
• 1:18:23
  do that stuff. They have the patience
• 1:18:26
  to look through through their purse for fifteen minutes for everything they they want. Every a man can't do that. He won't do that.
• 1:18:34
  He wants to get to the big picture, make the discernment of the fundamental
• 1:18:38
  the fundamental premise,
• 1:18:40
  and then move on from there. Women are more logical.
• 1:18:44
  But
• 1:18:45
  what they have trouble with on the other side,
• 1:18:48
  and the men major on this,
• 1:18:51
  is the discernment of the big picture, the major premise that is self proving self proving
• 1:18:57
  out of which all logical activity
• 1:19:00
  must proceed in order to be true.
• 1:19:03
  Now, I'm just, you know, reporting what the Bible says. I think I can see it in history, and I can see it presently.
• 1:19:11
  So if you wanna quarrel with somebody, quarrel with Paul the apostle, but don't quarrel with me because I'm not trying to persuade anybody. I'm just talking to the cubic foot air in front of my face, as I say often.
• 1:19:23
  Yeah. My job is to tell people what the book says, and I've worked at it pretty hard. I can see what it says.
• 1:19:30
  Unknown: Accept it. It'd be good. If you don't, that's your business. Roger, go ahead. I was just gonna say if there's anybody in the audience, girl or boy, that wanna come in and make any comments, had a question, make an observation,
• 1:19:43
  have a little bit of whatever gender analysis for us on whatever topic you'd like to expand on. Now's the time.
• 1:19:50
  Star six is the method.
• 1:19:52
  We'd love to hear from you. So I'll open that up for anybody.
• 1:19:57
  We moved anybody if we if we jolted you one side or the other here,
• 1:20:02
  or you wanna communicate, or you want Brent and I to just carry on here?
• 1:20:06
  Unknown: I think that the people are waiting
• 1:20:09
  for
• 1:20:11
  a clean
• 1:20:14
  recitation
• 1:20:15
  of
• 1:20:16
  that
• 1:20:17
  lecture.
• 1:20:18
  Unknown: So Can you layer in on that? That probably probably it'd probably fill up. You it was about thirty minutes, if I remember right, you reading it yet last week, Brent.
• 1:20:27
  Unknown: Uh-huh.
• 1:20:28
  Well, I'll
• 1:20:30
  my temptation I'm glad you said that, Paul.
• 1:20:34
  My temptation
• 1:20:35
  that I'm doing my best to resist is I stop and make comments. But what I wanna try to do, if that's then what is good, I'll just read it. Is that alright, Paul? Is that right? Yeah. Yeah. Remember last week, your voice was strained. Yeah.
• 1:20:50
  Unknown: Your voice was strained,
• 1:20:52
  and you were making comments,
• 1:20:54
  and Roger was making comments,
• 1:20:56
  and AI just made a total mess
• 1:20:59
  Unknown: of the transcript. If we could just start at the beginning, go all the way to end. In fact That would be cool. I'll just I'll mute, in fact. Oh, okay. So let's, let's just read it. I'll do my best. My voice has worn out a little, but I got something left.
• 1:21:14
  This is judge Abner j
• 1:21:16
  Mikva,
• 1:21:19
  appellate judge, a federal appellate judge,
• 1:21:22
  District Of Columbia Circuit here in The United States, a Jewish fellow lecturing
• 1:21:29
  about the reasons, the fundamental reasons for the liberalism,
• 1:21:34
  we call it today,
• 1:21:35
  of the at that time, nineteen eighty eight, five US Supreme Court justices, Louis Brandeis, Benjamin
• 1:21:43
  Cardoso,
• 1:21:43
  Felix Frankfurter,
• 1:21:45
  Arthur Goldberg, and Abe Vortes.
• 1:21:47
  Here we go. This is a quote. This is not me. This is a quote. Judge Mikva, and I'll probably I hope I say that through here periodically just so people know it's not me.
• 1:21:58
  He said this.
• 1:22:00
  Jewish judges and lawyers are natural liberals
• 1:22:04
  by a religion,
• 1:22:06
  by tradition,
• 1:22:07
  by education,
• 1:22:10
  by the environment in which they choose to live.
• 1:22:13
  When they try to bat right handed,
• 1:22:16
  they find the conservative stance very awkward,
• 1:22:20
  and they never really get comfortable.
• 1:22:23
  First off,
• 1:22:25
  to reassure those of you who might be concerned,
• 1:22:28
  I ought to give you my definition of the word liberal.
• 1:22:32
  When I use a word, said the king to Alice, it means exactly what I want it to mean.
• 1:22:39
  For a liberal today,
• 1:22:41
  people are all that is important
• 1:22:43
  and that all people are equally important.
• 1:22:47
  And such ideas as property
• 1:22:51
  and business
• 1:22:53
  are only means and not ends.
• 1:22:56
  You will recall that John Locke listed
• 1:22:59
  the inalienable
• 1:23:00
  rights of man as life, liberty, and property.
• 1:23:05
  And he went so far as to say that the government has no other purpose
• 1:23:10
  than the preservation of property.
• 1:23:13
  That's true. He did say that. But when our founding fathers were at their desks,
• 1:23:18
  says
• 1:23:20
  appellate
• 1:23:21
  judge
• 1:23:22
  mikvah,
• 1:23:23
  drafting our constitution,
• 1:23:26
  he says,
• 1:23:27
  they adopted the formula to read life, liberty,
• 1:23:31
  and the pursuit of happiness.
• 1:23:33
  Now that is blatantly this is me talking. That's blatantly false.
• 1:23:38
  Our constitution
• 1:23:39
  says
• 1:23:40
  property.
• 1:23:42
  He got it backwards.
• 1:23:44
  He's talking here about the Declaration of '76.
• 1:23:48
  Let me
• 1:23:51
  go on.
• 1:23:53
  Let me start with some of the issues current that influenced these five justices
• 1:23:59
  and on which they had an influence.
• 1:24:02
  School prayer.
• 1:24:04
  Most Americans think that their kids, and certainly other people's kids, ought to pray in school.
• 1:24:11
  I can assure you that is still a majority view.
• 1:24:15
  I can tell you that's true
• 1:24:18
  from the mail I used to receive when I was in Congress
• 1:24:22
  and the state legislature.
• 1:24:24
  I can tell you from the kind of outpourings
• 1:24:28
  I get even as a judge.
• 1:24:33
  Whenever the US Supreme Court hands down its cases
• 1:24:37
  involving prayer
• 1:24:38
  in the schools.
• 1:24:40
  I get heat heat.
• 1:24:44
  As the world's oldest continuous
• 1:24:46
  minority
• 1:24:47
  he's talking about himself, the Jewish community. He calls them the oldest continuous minority
• 1:24:55
  I think we know
• 1:24:58
  how important
• 1:24:59
  the separation of church and state is for the maintenance
• 1:25:03
  of pluralism.
• 1:25:05
  It will not be our prayer that will be ordained,
• 1:25:09
  our God that will be hallowed,
• 1:25:12
  even though
• 1:25:14
  to be against
• 1:25:16
  school prayer is not popular.
• 1:25:19
  Most Jews
• 1:25:21
  adopt the liberal position
• 1:25:24
  that God and the state are not a unity.
• 1:25:28
  One of the ideals
• 1:25:30
  that holds the five
• 1:25:31
  Jewish justices together,
• 1:25:34
  that whatever their own particular religious beliefs,
• 1:25:37
  they had a strong commitment and passion
• 1:25:40
  to the notion that the state
• 1:25:43
  and religion must be kept separate,
• 1:25:46
  even to accepting
• 1:25:48
  and upholding
• 1:25:50
  those unpopular
• 1:25:51
  notions
• 1:25:52
  such as keeping prayer out of the schools.
• 1:25:56
  Another reason Jewish judges are natural liberals
• 1:26:00
  is that basically
• 1:26:03
  Jewishness
• 1:26:04
  is an
• 1:26:05
  urban
• 1:26:06
  culture,
• 1:26:07
  says Judge Mikba.
• 1:26:09
  It always has been.
• 1:26:12
  Again,
• 1:26:13
  he says, I'm not talking about the religion as such,
• 1:26:18
  but about the way Jews live in this country and indeed in the old countries where they came from.
• 1:26:25
  Living together closely cheek to jowl, as it were,
• 1:26:30
  Jews have come to understand the need for tolerance.
• 1:26:34
  Even in the ghetto,
• 1:26:36
  says judge Mikva.
• 1:26:38
  The problems of close living,
• 1:26:41
  even with fellow Jews, made us appreciate
• 1:26:44
  the need to tolerate other people's differences,
• 1:26:48
  lest our differences
• 1:26:50
  be trampled.
• 1:26:52
  And so,
• 1:26:53
  he says,
• 1:26:55
  a Hasidic rabbi of the last century
• 1:26:59
  admonished us to take care
• 1:27:01
  of our own soul
• 1:27:04
  and of another man's body.
• 1:27:07
  Do not take care of your own body
• 1:27:10
  and another man's soul.
• 1:27:12
  Now that's what
• 1:27:14
  this judge says.
• 1:27:17
  Now Judge Mikveh continues,
• 1:27:19
  And so Jewish lawyers
• 1:27:21
  almost always end up living in the big city.
• 1:27:26
  They chose it.
• 1:27:28
  They thrive in it.
• 1:27:30
  They go to law school in it.
• 1:27:32
  They marry in it.
• 1:27:34
  They understand brick
• 1:27:36
  and mortar better than they do trees.
• 1:27:39
  Indeed,
• 1:27:40
  of the five
• 1:27:42
  justices
• 1:27:44
  on the US Supreme Court who are Jewish
• 1:27:49
  at that time in 1998,
• 1:27:51
  he says four of them were raised in the big city.
• 1:27:56
  The fifth
• 1:27:58
  spent all of his formative years
• 1:28:01
  in Washington,
• 1:28:02
  DC,
• 1:28:03
  and they are attracted
• 1:28:05
  to law in the big cities
• 1:28:08
  because they understand the practice of law
• 1:28:12
  in the big city is an opportunity
• 1:28:15
  to carry out not only their personal philosophies,
• 1:28:19
  but to carry out, says judge Mikvah,
• 1:28:22
  their career ambitions.
• 1:28:25
  They can do well in the big cities far easier
• 1:28:29
  than in the countryside.
• 1:28:33
  Judge Mikvah continues another example of their heritage of liberalism.
• 1:28:38
  Jews believe in the welfare state.
• 1:28:41
  They may argue about food stamps and the efficacy
• 1:28:45
  of some individual program,
• 1:28:47
  but we have no doubt
• 1:28:49
  about the propriety and the necessity
• 1:28:52
  of the community
• 1:28:54
  caring for the poor.
• 1:28:56
  And so,
• 1:28:57
  said judge Mikva,
• 1:28:59
  it shouldn't be a surprise that Jews
• 1:29:02
  have consistently
• 1:29:03
  supported
• 1:29:05
  welfare programs in their private lives,
• 1:29:08
  in their political lives.
• 1:29:12
  In this country, he says, most of the major planks of our welfare system
• 1:29:17
  from aid to dependent children to public housing
• 1:29:20
  to old age assistance
• 1:29:22
  have been Jewish, have Jewish fingerprints
• 1:29:25
  all over them.
• 1:29:28
  Judge Mikva continues.
• 1:29:30
  In my home state, a Jewish governor by the name of Henry Horner Horner
• 1:29:36
  imposed the first
• 1:29:38
  sales tax
• 1:29:41
  in the state of Illinois.
• 1:29:44
  A 2¢ sales tax in the early 1930s
• 1:29:49
  to pay for a welfare and relief program for victims of the Depression
• 1:29:54
  long before we had any kind of national
• 1:29:58
  programs.
• 1:30:06
  In some
• 1:30:08
  of those
• 1:30:13
  in some of those rural
• 1:30:16
  communities in Illinois,
• 1:30:20
  the storekeepers
• 1:30:21
  would tell their customers
• 1:30:23
  the price
• 1:30:24
  and say plus, and they say plus
• 1:30:28
  2¢ for the Jew.
• 1:30:33
  It was hardly,
• 1:30:34
  says judge Mikva, the most popular program governor Horner ever initiated.
• 1:30:41
  But that dichotomy.
• 1:30:43
  And so it should be no surprise
• 1:30:46
  that all five of the Jewish justices upon the Supreme Court
• 1:30:52
  through 1988
• 1:30:53
  supported
• 1:30:54
  the controversial
• 1:30:56
  programs
• 1:30:57
  of the welfare state
• 1:31:00
  under the New Deal and
• 1:31:03
  the Great Society program of
• 1:31:06
  Lyndon Baines Johnson.
• 1:31:09
  That leads me to another example of Jewish liberalism
• 1:31:13
  and its effect
• 1:31:14
  on the five justices,
• 1:31:17
  whether because they are lawyers or because they are Jews.
• 1:31:22
  The Jewish justices,
• 1:31:24
  say Judge Mikvah,
• 1:31:26
  believed
• 1:31:27
  in
• 1:31:28
  government.
• 1:31:30
  Jewish lawyers are not traditionally
• 1:31:33
  the architects of get government off our backs
• 1:31:36
  movement.
• 1:31:39
  They are not the anarchists that insist
• 1:31:43
  that everybody ought to be allowed to paddle
• 1:31:46
  their own canoe.
• 1:31:48
  Fascinating. He says that's anarchy.
• 1:31:50
  Everybody ought to be free.
• 1:31:52
  Well,
• 1:31:54
  judge Mikvah continues.
• 1:31:56
  I've always been fascinated and impressed with the number of Jewish lawyers that hold elective office in this country,
• 1:32:05
  well beyond the numbers of our society comparatively
• 1:32:08
  and wholly out of rhythm with the traditional ethnic voting patterns.
• 1:32:14
  What
• 1:32:15
  an admission.
• 1:32:18
  He continues, a Jewish lawyer governor in Vermont, two Jewish lawyer governors in Illinois,
• 1:32:24
  Jewish lawyers elected to statewide offices
• 1:32:27
  in many states,
• 1:32:30
  with small Jewish
• 1:32:31
  constituencies
• 1:32:32
  of
• 1:32:36
  the D. C. Appellate
• 1:32:38
  Court,
• 1:32:39
  Maryland,
• 1:32:40
  Connecticut,
• 1:32:42
  Penn Michigan,
• 1:32:44
  Ohio,
• 1:32:45
  Pennsylvania,
• 1:32:47
  Nebraska,
• 1:32:48
  Michigan,
• 1:32:49
  Minnesota.
• 1:32:52
  This state
• 1:32:54
  he's at Lewis and Clark Law School, so
• 1:32:57
  this state probably means
• 1:32:59
  the state of Washington in 1988.
• 1:33:03
  This state has had its own share of Jewish lawyer politicians.
• 1:33:08
  It speaks well of the political maturity of those states.
• 1:33:15
  It also speaks well of the enthusiasm of Jews for
• 1:33:19
  government.
• 1:33:21
  And all styles of these Jewish justices
• 1:33:26
  of the US Supreme Court
• 1:33:28
  had an enthusiasm
• 1:33:30
  for the concept
• 1:33:32
  of strong
• 1:33:33
  central government.
• 1:33:35
  But not when it interferes with individual civil rights, civil liberties,
• 1:33:41
  but in terms of the need of a central government
• 1:33:44
  that is active and effective.
• 1:33:48
  You will recall
• 1:33:50
  that Justices
• 1:33:52
  Brandeis and Cardozo
• 1:33:54
  were almost constant
• 1:33:56
  defenders
• 1:33:57
  from the notion of substantive
• 1:33:59
  due process
• 1:34:01
  during the period when most of the New Deal programs
• 1:34:05
  and other
• 1:34:06
  similar
• 1:34:08
  programs, as they say here in the Wabash Valley,
• 1:34:13
  were stripped down on the idea that they violated the substantive
• 1:34:18
  due process right
• 1:34:20
  of business
• 1:34:21
  to be let alone,
• 1:34:23
  and that national government had no role
• 1:34:27
  in the solution of these problems.
• 1:34:31
  It was Justice Brandeis
• 1:34:33
  and Cardozo,
• 1:34:35
  Justices
• 1:34:36
  Brandeis and Cardozos,
• 1:34:38
  he says,
• 1:34:39
  who defended
• 1:34:40
  from that notion.
• 1:34:43
  When Justice Felix Frankfurter
• 1:34:45
  came on to the Supreme Court, he continued to provide what would then become a support for the majority position.
• 1:34:55
  Upholding these New Deal programs,
• 1:34:58
  says Judge Mikva,
• 1:35:01
  upholding the notion that a strong central
• 1:35:05
  government would be central
• 1:35:07
  to the well-being
• 1:35:09
  of our country,
• 1:35:11
  a lecture in the year 1988
• 1:35:15
  by
• 1:35:17
  Judge Abner J. Mikva
• 1:35:20
  of the District of Columbia
• 1:35:23
  Federal Appellate Circuit,
• 1:35:26
  delivered at Lewis and Clark Law School,
• 1:35:30
  concerning
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  the reason why
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  the five Jewish justices up to that time, 1988,
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  were
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  staunch
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  left wing liberals
• 1:35:44
  and praising them for it.
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  That's the end of the lecture.
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  Unknown: Thank you very much for repeating that.
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  I would like to ask because they always put forth this
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  altruistic
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  reason. We're we so care about the poor. And as you and I know, because of our past experiences,
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  especially the
• 1:36:09
  story, I think I repeated it last week on on,
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  Corban.
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  Well, they they weren't being
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  altruistic towards the social system in Jesus' day. They were trying to steal from him and control him.
• 1:36:25
  Yet they put forth this altruistic front, and that's what I think I notice a lot.
• 1:36:33
  And the hypocrisy,
• 1:36:35
  that's about the strongest word Jesus ever called him, hypocrites.
• 1:36:38
  The hypocrisy,
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  everything they stand for here on this, oh, we're for liberalism and the the people. But behind the scenes is we're for you so we can get you into that so we can control you.
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  Pitches on everything they do is the same thing.
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  Unknown: It's inconsistent
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  to say, as they firmly believe from their religion,
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  that
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  to defend property rights is to not care about people.
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  The only way to care about anybody
• 1:37:10
  is to defend their rights to their property. And by the way, they say, well, there are civil rights
• 1:37:17
  and there are property, and they distinguish the two. Well, that's that's foolishness.
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  Rights
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  are property.
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  Period. Yes. Period. If I have a right if I have a right to control this education of my children, that's a duty, an old Anglo Saxon word that means duty,
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  Well, that duty
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  is my property.
• 1:37:37
  Yeah. And to take it away from me is to steal from me, to impede me in the exercise
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  of my duty to take care of that business between me and god.
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  Unknown: And what you think is property
• 1:37:49
  in law is a thing.
• 1:37:52
  Unknown: That's right. And that's why Jefferson rightly said,
• 1:37:55
  we have rights in our property,
• 1:37:58
  and we have property in our rights. Our rights. Good. They are the same thing.
• 1:38:03
  Like, water is a liquid
• 1:38:06
  and a a solid and a gas, a different but property and rights are the same thing. If I say,
• 1:38:13
  I have I own the beneficial rights
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  to this trust.
• 1:38:18
  What does that mean? I own any of the entrusted property? No.
• 1:38:22
  The tangible property? No. But I have a non tangible. You can't smell it. You can't see it. You can't taste it. You can't touch it, but it's powerful.
• 1:38:32
  I have a beneficial right.
• 1:38:34
  I have a I have a mineral right, for example. That doesn't mean that that means I have a right to the benefits.
• 1:38:40
  If I'm a shareholder of a corporation,
• 1:38:43
  I I don't own the corporation property or any part of it, but I have a right
• 1:38:49
  to the profits
• 1:38:51
  that come out of that. It's nontangible.
• 1:38:53
  I can't see it, touch it, touch it, taste it, or smell it, But that's right. Why would a man,
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  as edumacated,
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  he clerked for a supreme court justice, a left wing wacko,
• 1:39:06
  and when he was young, why would a man that educated
• 1:39:10
  be so stupid? I'll tell you why. Because his religion
• 1:39:14
  said it, and he believes it. Yep. It's false. What he's saying is utterly false, and he's saying this. We're wonderful. We're better than other people because we care about people, but we're not concerned about the property rights. Now wait a minute.
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  Life,
• 1:39:32
  liberty,
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  and property,
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  that's all any of us have
• 1:39:37
  Unknown: Sure. This life on Earth. Sure seems like they're pretty damn concerned with property rights on their side. Yeah. Of course.
• 1:39:45
  Unknown: But I my life is my property, and I better defend it lawfully.
• 1:39:50
  If I don't,
• 1:39:51
  I'm spitting in the face of the god that gave me life.
• 1:39:56
  My liberty is my property. What is it? Well, our law defines it very well.
• 1:40:01
  Most people don't have a clue what liberty is. Been my observation.
• 1:40:05
  God tells us.
• 1:40:07
  But that
• 1:40:08
  is mine. I can't see it either, but it is a duty before god,
• 1:40:13
  and I'd better defend it because with every
• 1:40:16
  duty that law gives us and duty arises out of law,
• 1:40:22
  and god is the law giver, and every duty he
• 1:40:25
  gives us,
• 1:40:27
  it demands our defense. A it's a jurisdiction.
• 1:40:30
  And if we don't defend the jurisdiction that God bestows directly upon us, that's called a fundamental right, not a civil right,
• 1:40:39
  every duty bestowed directly upon us, we're
• 1:40:42
  we're despising
• 1:40:44
  the giver of the gift,
• 1:40:46
  the giver of the duty. There is no enjoyment in life without your duty. There's no lasting enjoyment.
• 1:40:53
  None at all. It's more important than eating.
• 1:40:57
  It's more important than physical comfort. It will bring true
• 1:41:01
  lasting
• 1:41:02
  enjoyment. That's why Jesus Christ, our savior, said,
• 1:41:07
  my food
• 1:41:09
  is to do the will of him that sent me.
• 1:41:13
  I'd rather do that than eat. If you ever get to that point,
• 1:41:17
  that's where life really gets great. Honestly. Honestly.
• 1:41:21
  That's where life really becomes something.
• 1:41:24
  The left
• 1:41:25
  Unknown: go ahead, Roger. He also neglects to mention that mister Brandeis
• 1:41:29
  was the beachhead for the Zionist entire Zionist movement inside the federal government.
• 1:41:35
  Oh, that's to mention that.
• 1:41:38
  That mister Brandeis from Boston, the bright young Jewish attorney,
• 1:41:43
  that do you know his confirmation
• 1:41:46
  was the longest confirmation
• 1:41:48
  in history?
• 1:41:50
  Unknown: No. I didn't know, but I I believe it because people took him well, he was first Jew. A big confirmation.
• 1:41:57
  Unknown: I forget how many days. Longer than anybody else.
• 1:42:01
  And then he worked with a
• 1:42:03
  professor
• 1:42:04
  at the University of Wisconsin,
• 1:42:06
  another one of these ziomaniacs,
• 1:42:09
  and used to hold meetings,
• 1:42:12
  against the rules,
• 1:42:15
  hold meetings in his office in the Supreme Court Building with all his Zionist pals that were establishing via Zionism. That's how they got into the government. And you notice all the other Jews that's on the supreme court he named afterwards.
• 1:42:28
  Court Cordes,
• 1:42:30
  Frankfurter,
• 1:42:31
  a couple other ones, they all came because of him. And this was the basis, the backbone of the Zionist beachhead.
• 1:42:41
  Unknown: Well and that's bad, but,
• 1:42:44
  but it's worse,
• 1:42:45
  the subtlety
• 1:42:47
  of the cases that a man decides.
• 1:42:51
  Because if he is not right headed,
• 1:42:54
  if he's got his face toward hell,
• 1:42:57
  and all false religions do,
• 1:42:59
  To not follow Jesus Christ is to be wrong headed. I don't care
• 1:43:04
  who you are. And Jesus Christ makes that abundantly clear. Like, one law professor, he was from Harvard.
• 1:43:12
  He wrote four volumes on the common laws of evidence.
• 1:43:16
  His name was Simon Greenleaf.
• 1:43:18
  He wrote a book
• 1:43:20
  called
• 1:43:21
  the testimony
• 1:43:23
  of the evangelist.
• 1:43:25
  The testimonies
• 1:43:26
  of the evangelist.
• 1:43:28
  And he took the four gospel records, he calls those the writings of the evangelists,
• 1:43:34
  and he evaluates them according to our common law rules of evidence.
• 1:43:39
  And the question he puts up before the reader is,
• 1:43:42
  are these reliable enough to be submitted
• 1:43:46
  to the jury?
• 1:43:48
  And he goes through all the rules with all the
• 1:43:52
  the gospel records. And if you can establish the gospel records are reliable as a matter of evidence, and that's pretty easy to do,
• 1:44:00
  then the gospel records
• 1:44:03
  establish everything else in the Bible as reliable evidence, all the other writings of the Bible.
• 1:44:10
  But what he says in the opening pages actually, I think it's on the the frontispiece.
• 1:44:17
  He's I'm gonna try to quote it.
• 1:44:19
  He says, the religion of Jesus Christ
• 1:44:23
  denounces
• 1:44:24
  all other approaches
• 1:44:27
  of religion
• 1:44:28
  and approaches of men to God
• 1:44:31
  as
• 1:44:32
  false
• 1:44:34
  in their premises
• 1:44:35
  and dangerous
• 1:44:37
  in their tendencies.
• 1:44:39
  That's his conclusion after evaluating
• 1:44:42
  the gospel records. And then he puts in the back of the book what we call in Christendom a harmony of the gospels showing where they fill the gaps in. They're just different
• 1:44:54
  testimonies
• 1:44:54
  of different men, compilations of testimonies of people that saw with their own eyes, heard with their own ears, and Jesus the Christ.
• 1:45:03
  That phrase, though,
• 1:45:07
  false
• 1:45:08
  in their premises
• 1:45:10
  and dangerous
• 1:45:11
  in their tendencies.
• 1:45:13
  That's his conclusion about what Jesus Christ says about, specifically in the gospel records,
• 1:45:20
  Judaism, what we call Judaism.
• 1:45:23
  Ugly,
• 1:45:24
  false,
• 1:45:26
  demonic
• 1:45:27
  religion.
• 1:45:28
  And if you have that point of view as a judge,
• 1:45:32
  do I need to tell you
• 1:45:34
  what your your decisions are going to reflect?
• 1:45:38
  And he makes the point here. We don't care what most people want.
• 1:45:42
  Here's what we've done and what we're gonna continue to do
• 1:45:46
  and get ourselves in positions of judgeship. Louis Brandeis,
• 1:45:51
  when he was a young man,
• 1:45:54
  filed, I believe it was in the year '28
• 1:45:58
  or 1912. You can look it up.
• 1:46:00
  What was in the Supreme Court, he filed. He was arguing a case. He called
• 1:46:05
  what folk now call the Brandeis brief.
• 1:46:09
  The Brandeis brief before he argued the course case. If you're gonna argue a case in any court, first, you submit a brief, kinda saying, here's the kinds of things I'm gonna say, and I stand on my briefs, but then you're open to question by the justices.
• 1:46:23
  Well, he filed the brief. And what it was, it had very little law in it, very little citation to precedent,
• 1:46:29
  which is important in our common law tradition that the judicial branch be independent of the other branches and look to its own wisdom.
• 1:46:38
  That's called precedent.
• 1:46:39
  Oh, yeah. Very important. Matter of fact, without it, our common law government would topple down entirely.
• 1:46:46
  Well, instead of citing precedent, he had
• 1:46:49
  a thick pile
• 1:46:50
  of studies done by psychologists.
• 1:46:54
  And therein began
• 1:46:57
  the invasion of psychobabble
• 1:46:59
  into our courts. You can't go into a case today without somebody saying, I think we ought to allow the shrink to examine this guy to see if he's fit to stand trial. Let the shrink examine this guy to see if he is who he says he is, if he's qualified for the position.
• 1:47:16
  What do shrinks know? Well, they're mostly people that are operating
• 1:47:21
  with false religious premises as well. What's
• 1:47:25
  the false religious present premise of a psych psychologist?
• 1:47:29
  Well, he believed that man
• 1:47:31
  operates on his his
• 1:47:33
  soulishness.
• 1:47:39
  Fundamentally, he doesn't ever get past what we call stimulation and response.
• 1:47:44
  Man is nothing but an animal. You give him this stimulation, he does that. You did this stimulation, he does that. The nobel the nobel you know, that guy had false religion too. He he was very false religionist, nobel.
• 1:47:57
  But he said, of course, I ring the bell and I feed the dog. I ring the bell. I feed the dog. I ring the bell. I feed the dog. And then I ring the bell and I don't feed the dog. But what does the dog do?
• 1:48:08
  He salivates.
• 1:48:10
  He's got accustomed to every time the bell rang, he's gonna get to eat. So he starts salivating.
• 1:48:15
  When the bell rings, he said, that's the way people are. We we produce a response. We get them accustomed. We know what they're gonna do next.
• 1:48:22
  What's that, Roger?
• 1:48:24
  Unknown: What's that? You just gave us some what I would consider private
• 1:48:28
  knowledge, information on this speech that you transcribed.
• 1:48:32
  Yeah. Uh-huh. I'm gonna give you some private knowledge.
• 1:48:36
  Uh-huh. That you you probably can't find and verify, but I know because the source is accurate.
• 1:48:43
  And it was Pavlov
• 1:48:45
  is who you were looking for Right. That did the conditioned
• 1:48:49
  response
• 1:48:51
  experiments.
• 1:48:53
  Uh-huh. And, you know, I had the the the extremely,
• 1:48:58
  the mild things.
• 1:48:59
  I've been guided on this. But I had the opportunity along the way to spend some private time
• 1:49:05
  with a truly great American, now deceased,
• 1:49:08
  general, Benton Parton,
• 1:49:11
  lieutenant general air force general Benton Parton. You're familiar with him. Right?
• 1:49:16
  Nope.
• 1:49:17
  No. The way you are, you just probably don't know the name. Oh. Remember after Oklahoma City, the experts expert on munitions that came forward that talked about the blasts,
• 1:49:27
  depth, and all that kind of stuff? That was general pardon.
• 1:49:31
  Okay? And so
• 1:49:33
  we I saw him speak, heard him speak on radio, and my millionaire friend,
• 1:49:39
  had the means, and we got him down to our patriot group for what turned out to be two days.
• 1:49:46
  And his first talk was on Oklahoma City and all the scientific
• 1:49:50
  stuff,
• 1:49:51
  having to do with that bombing and it not being able to have
• 1:49:55
  have been executed the way it was said to. Uh-huh. Yeah.
• 1:50:00
  But he did another talk on communism.
• 1:50:04
  And he was a specialist in communism, and this was the reason. You know all the laser guided bombs they're using now to bomb those 170 targets in Iran and stuff? Yeah. Yeah. That was him. Grad the guided munitions was general partner. It's one of the things he came up with. At his career, they gave him a whole new division of the air force called the weapon systems division,
• 1:50:28
  And they said, here's a quant set for you. No deaths, no files, no people. We wanted you what you to do is to ascertain what weapon systems
• 1:50:37
  we'll need fifty years into the future. Uh-huh.
• 1:50:41
  And he said, well,
• 1:50:44
  I guess first thing I need to do is figure out who we'd be fighting fifty years in the future.
• 1:50:50
  Uh-huh. So he started becoming an ardent student of communism.
• 1:50:55
  This is where this information came from. He used to give it his talks.
• 1:50:59
  I've had people try and find it on the web. They can't find it. And I can't tell you where to go find it except go resurrect general Barton because that's where I heard it, and that's an unimpeachable source in my opinion.
• 1:51:13
  And What?
• 1:51:14
  So I think this might explain a lot to you.
• 1:51:18
  Our guys have heard it. They hear me talk about it often.
• 1:51:21
  Anyway, because it's it's profound.
• 1:51:24
  Okay? First stage, first experiment, like you said, rang the bell, get the dog to salivate,
• 1:51:30
  and feed him, and then they'd ring the bell, and the dog would salivate without
• 1:51:34
  food.
• 1:51:36
  Uh-huh. Condition, response.
• 1:51:38
  Right. Now do you know the other two stages of the experiment?
• 1:51:43
  Uh-huh.
• 1:51:44
  Have you ever heard them? No. Go ahead. Second stage, they take the same dog in the same room,
• 1:51:51
  and they condition him to turning on the light.
• 1:51:55
  Now he can avoid and when he turn on the light, they give him a beating.
• 1:51:59
  Now he can avoid the beating. There's a parallel
• 1:52:03
  piece of wood over in the corner where that he can get under where he can crawl up under and he doesn't get beat.
• 1:52:08
  But that's the second stage. Turn on the light, beat the dog. K? Uh-huh. Uh-huh. So the question is, third stage,
• 1:52:16
  they took the same dog in the same room, and they rang the bell and turned on the lights at the same time.
• 1:52:22
  What do you think he did?
• 1:52:24
  Unknown: Got scared.
• 1:52:26
  Unknown: Stood in the middle of the room and shook.
• 1:52:29
  Yeah. And today, they call that a catatonic state,
• 1:52:33
  and that's why our people are, I think, the way they are. Now
• 1:52:39
  listening to some guys who are experts in conditioned response
• 1:52:43
  over on RBN, our friend Tom D's station over there some time ago,
• 1:52:49
  and they said, well, here's one thing we found
• 1:52:52
  additionally.
• 1:52:54
  The more conditions that you put on the subject,
• 1:52:57
  the deeper the the the effects.
• 1:53:01
  So there you see what you say, why can't Americans do anything? I believe that's a large part of it right there. You can make your own conclusions.
• 1:53:10
  Unknown: Well, that that and, obviously,
• 1:53:12
  it applies to men, but the problem with that is and the reason it shouldn't be applied, these
• 1:53:17
  Nobel salivating dog, that condition response stuff,
• 1:53:22
  is because men have something dogs don't have.
• 1:53:25
  They don't just have bodies and souls, and that's what the is,
• 1:53:29
  the soul,
• 1:53:30
  but men have spirits.
• 1:53:32
  Men has a man has a spirit.
• 1:53:34
  And if he is of god, he has the spirit of god. And none of that applies because the spirit of man will overcome
• 1:53:42
  his conditioned responses
• 1:53:44
  in many, many cases, you cannot predict
• 1:53:47
  what a man is gonna do. You can predict a lot what an animal's gonna do. I'd go out and call the cows in the morning before daylight. I was in high school. I went down over the hill where the hay was parked or stacked along the road,
• 1:54:02
  and I would holler for them.
• 1:54:05
  And they'd start
• 1:54:06
  walking up to where I'd feed them from way back in the pasture field.
• 1:54:10
  Well, they knew they'd been conditioned to know that when they heard the sound of my voice,
• 1:54:15
  that if they come up there, they get something deep. That's the same thing as conditioned
• 1:54:20
  response. Do men do that? Oh, yeah. Men can learn to do that too. Their bodies.
• 1:54:24
  But we have a spirit and we can deny it. We can be tempted
• 1:54:29
  by things and say, wait a minute. No. I'm not gonna do that. I don't care how strong the urge is. A dog doesn't have that like a man does. It's diff men can deny like the Jesus Christ Well, some men can't.
• 1:54:43
  Unknown: Some men can. I think some men can't.
• 1:54:45
  And and the what general pardon said at the end of that,
• 1:54:50
  he said, when we were studying Freud,
• 1:54:53
  they were studying Pavlov.
• 1:54:56
  Unknown: But Pavlov,
• 1:54:57
  again, does not tell you what a Christian man's gonna do. No. That's what the bible teaches. And and and general partner's a big Christian. He's a fine American.
• 1:55:06
  Unknown: But
• 1:55:08
  I was just fortunate. David brought him to Atlanta to speak to our CCG group, and we got him to stay an extra night and give this communism talk because I'd heard him do it on pastor Peter's show. K? And,
• 1:55:21
  we had big crowds,
• 1:55:23
  and he stayed with David, and David hated to do one thing. He hated driving to the airport.
• 1:55:29
  And so I stayed up there at his house, and my job was to hang out with General Parton when he was at work
• 1:55:35
  and then to drive him to the airport when he needed to leave.
• 1:55:40
  And so, we got to spend a a bunch of one on one time together. What an honor.
• 1:55:45
  And me being an Air Force kid and him being an air force retired general, we we had some common ground. And,
• 1:55:53
  Unknown: what a guy. What an opportunity. I was very honored to have that time with him. Yeah. And I and I'm glad you told me, but I'm sure I need to look him up too. But there are two things
• 1:56:03
  about out of time, so I wanna say this. Yeah. There are two things that prevent a man from being from being an animal. Peter the apostle says that the man without the spirit of god
• 1:56:13
  is like an unreasoning
• 1:56:16
  beast.
• 1:56:17
  Uh-huh. Good for nothing but to be caught and killed. And he's making that point.
• 1:56:22
  But the not that he is an unreasoning beast, but he said he's like one. Like one. But there are two things that God brings to the Christian man, and he will they will be
• 1:56:32
  irresistible to him.
• 1:56:34
  Number one, the word of god.
• 1:56:36
  And reformers
• 1:56:38
  made much of this. By the spirit of god, you hunger for what god said.
• 1:56:43
  And the spirit of god has the word of god as a handle, he can keep you from following your conditioned response because the devil is not stupid. You've read also about the Jewish fellow that created the idea in America back in the ninety nineteen twenties
• 1:56:59
  that we if we don't eat breakfast, we'll not be healthy.
• 1:57:03
  And then orange juice, bacon, eggs, all cereal. Cereal was a big deal. He helped promote. He helped the cereal companies make people think.
• 1:57:13
  Unknown: Put
• 1:57:14
  Unknown: a book on how he did it, by the way. You can Was that Freud's grandson?
• 1:57:18
  I don't remember what the guy's name was, Roger, but I'll find out sometime. Anyway, the bottom line is you get the bottom line. I get the bottom line. I'm trying to tell the audience. But, yeah, all that's true. But, Roger, let me say who I am, which I haven't done. I
• 1:57:33
  Unknown: ahead. Just say it quick.
• 1:57:35
  Unknown: Yeah. This is Brent.
• 1:57:37
  Brent Allen Winters, common lawyer dot com, www.commonlawyer.com.
• 1:57:44
  Go to the website,
• 1:57:45
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• 1:57:46
  Join us for Saturdays.
• 1:57:47
  Talk about the laws of nature or common law and the laws of nature's god, the bible. We're going through books of the bible. Same thing on Sunday. Come to church with us. We do the same thing. And all the other times are on the Internet and where you can go listen to the hundreds of archived
• 1:58:03
  presentations
• 1:58:04
  if you like them. And you can get the the common lawyer translates the bible from the original tongues at commonlawyer.com
• 1:58:12
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• 1:58:16
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• 1:58:18
  Lawyers by Brent Allen Winger. Thanks, Roger. And,
• 1:58:22
  Unknown: there's a bunch of info over there. Please liberally
• 1:58:25
  use it. Brent, thank you so much, and,
• 1:58:28
  good show today. Glad we got that reading in again
• 1:58:32
  with Moss Clarity,
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  and we'll look forward to seeing you next week. Stay tuned.
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  Stay tuned, folks. Brandon. Hold on. Keep your head
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  on a shrivel.
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  K. We're the show's over. Hold on a minute.
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  Lay
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  your
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  body
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  down.
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  Okay. Now who was trying to say Brent?
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  Christian.
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  Unknown: Hey, Christian. I've tried two Sunday two Sundays in a row to get Brent, and, I get it pulls it up.
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  Commonlawyer.com
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  comes up, and it has
• 1:59:14
  different things to pick from and I have put on this church and it won't it won't pull it up. What am I doing wrong?
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  Please,
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  email,
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  Joy.
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  I think if you if you just email,
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  Joy will see it.
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  If you go to the website, commonlawyer.com,
• 1:59:35
  and
• 1:59:36
  then go to the contact button and email.
• 1:59:38
  I don't
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  handle the website,
• 1:59:42
  but
• 1:59:43
  she know she may be able to help you. And if there's a problem, we wanna fix it. So please do that, and do it right now while you're thinking about it. Yeah, Christian.
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  Unknown: They'll send you a hot link, and you can just use that from then on out.
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  Okay. Anybody else got any questions or comments? I asked earlier. It wasn't even a peep out of any of you. So, but I will come back and give you the courtesy of doing that again. Does anybody have any questions in comment? There you go, Bernays. Exactly
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  who I was looking for, Lisa. Thank you.
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  Unknown: And Bernays was Brett.
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  Freud's double nephew because of the ancestral behavior.
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  Unknown: Oh my god.
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  Yeah. Anyway, you you Freud was, Freud's
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  nephew was Bernays.
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  Bernays
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  is famous for
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  getting women to smoke cigarettes
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  by
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  they call them freedom sticks,
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  I believe.
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  Yeah. And he had the women in the Macy's
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  parade
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  walk down New York, whatever avenue, smoking cigarettes.
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  Unknown: Well, they got the ingenues to do it. Right? So they're they're kind of the, you know like like models would be today or something kind of
• 2:01:03
  yeah freedom torches.
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  But I just posted in the chat here and it's short if Paul wants to
• 2:01:10
  I was gonna send it to you guys too because when you were talking about calling cattle. Right? The Swedish women, all the different cattle are out grazing,
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  and each of the women have a separate call for their own cattle.
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  And it's pretty cool. It's beautiful, actually.
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  Unknown: I'm sure it is.
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  Unknown: Yep. I could play it from here, but it'd sound better if Paul played it just over a minute.
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  Just hear some of their calling.
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  I can try it here if you want.
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  Unknown: You can try it if you wanna see if it comes across, Paul. Do you have it? No. No. No. No. Paul, do you have it? Give me a minute.
• 2:01:48
  Unknown: Give me a minute. I just like this last minute stuff. I have a a very Also,
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  Unknown: Roger.
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  Unknown: Thought you're supposed to anticipate that stuff. That was in our contract. No.
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  Unknown: No. Go ahead, Lisa. No.
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  Unknown: Sketch put a link in that has general pardons report linked,
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  and so I was glancing through it, and it has a link in it to the bomb damage
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  analysis
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  Unknown: by general Pertons. So I don't I don't know that it's the speech he gave, but it's a document. Probably. No. He lived in a place right across from DC and Virginia called Kings Cove because I used to have his, mailing address.
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  But what he did, he wrote up a report,
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  Lisa,
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  and he went across the river and delivered it to every
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  sitting member of congress and hand delivered it to their office,
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  what you're looking at probably.
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  Unknown: Okay.
• 2:02:47
  Well, I know you were saying that some people couldn't find it, so you weren't talking about this report. You were talking about the speech he gave?
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  Unknown: I was the he did two talks. One on Oklahoma City, wham foe, and I couldn't do that and what their formula was and foot pounds and all that stuff. Couldn't have blown off the facade
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  on the Murrah Building from where it was on the street. Okay? You didn't have the foot pounds to do it. And then I heard him do the second one
• 2:03:19
  on pastor Pete.
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  You could probably also find those at scripturesforamerica.org.
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  I'm sure they will, for a couple of dollars, send them to you.
• 2:03:30
  And the other one was he stayed that came back the second night and did the thing on communism.
• 2:03:36
  And, very interesting. This is why I know,
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  but I don't remember all of it. I hadn't heard it in years, but I what stuck with me out listening
• 2:03:45
  was that third stage
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  of of the the four stage plan of country's takeovers.
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  And the third stage,
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  the as he said, they passed it. They brought it up in 1919
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  at the first communist international meeting.
• 2:04:03
  They voted on it when they met again. They meet still every ten years. I believe in Basel, Switzerland.
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  And when they met again in 1929,
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  they voted it in.
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  And as he said, they've used it in every country.
• 2:04:18
  They've taken over
• 2:04:20
  since that time.
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  And I don't I remember the last two stages.
• 2:04:26
  The stage three
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  was called the period of escalating
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  violence,
• 2:04:32
  and that's what you see. They're obviously in their
• 2:04:35
  plan to take over the world. It's not take over a country. It's take over a world, but they are using it to take over us
• 2:04:42
  because we're the last real stumbling block.
• 2:04:45
  And, the fourth stage
• 2:04:47
  was the ultimate takeover where they would
• 2:04:50
  take over adjacent countries
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  from the one they just gotten a hold of.
• 2:04:56
  But this time, I believe it's the whole world, and that's what you're seeing, all the violence, all the Soros DAs
• 2:05:03
  that let the murderers out the next day or don't charge them or drop the charges or something.
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  I'll bring it all in the migrants,
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  the worst types
• 2:05:13
  and putting them dropping them amongst us is superior to escalating violence.
• 2:05:19
  Now you can understand
• 2:05:21
  it. Otherwise, you don't really have
• 2:05:24
  I don't think most people, maybe not you, us, but you don't have your arms around what's really happening. And I think that's exactly what's happening.
• 2:05:32
  So for what it's worth,
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  that's all from Ben Benton Parden.
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  God rest his soul.
• 2:05:43
  K? Hey, Roger. So anybody else got anything? There's Paul. Yes, sir.
• 2:05:47
  Unknown: I've got that, I've got that sound clip.
• 2:05:52
  Unknown: Mhmm. Mhmm. Multiple different multiple different Oh, call? Alright. Well Calling cattle. Tell you what we'll do.
• 2:05:59
  We'll use the Swiss calling the cattle to close out the show. So before Paul plays it, does anybody else have anything for me?
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  Unknown: Yeah. I posted forty three minute and change speech by pardon
• 2:06:14
  about Oklahoma City and Waco
• 2:06:17
  Unknown: in the chat.
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  Well, the reason he came forward
• 2:06:21
  is because he was considered
• 2:06:23
  I remember Bill Cooper was talking about the night of the Murrah Building bombing,
• 2:06:28
  and they said, we've got the experts
• 2:06:30
  expert in the country on munitions.
• 2:06:34
  We're we're we're trying to get a hold of him right now, and that was Benton pardoned.
• 2:06:38
  And that was because of all the stuff he did as the head of this weapon systems division
• 2:06:44
  before he before he retired.
• 2:06:47
  So just a I I
• 2:06:49
  feel really honored to have met him and spent time with him, quite frankly. Okay. This is supposed to be the full video. It's,
• 2:06:57
  Unknown: he addresses the Wallace Institute on the Oklahoma City bombing, the Waco massacre, and world communism in Santa Clara, California,
• 2:07:05
  June
• 2:07:06
  1998.
• 2:07:08
  Unknown: There you go. Worth listening to, folks. Thanks for digging that up, Murr. Anybody else?
• 2:07:15
  No. Does he hear them? Cattle being called, mister Paul. See y'all tomorrow. Thank you, Brent.
• 2:07:22
  Unknown: Thank you, Roach
• 2:07:24
  and Brent.
• 2:07:26
  Unknown: Thank you, Roger.
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  Unknown: A tool that you need to use while herding,
• 2:07:48
  it's a way to bond with the cattle, to communicate with the cattle,
• 2:07:53
  to keep the herd together,
• 2:07:55
  and to call them home.
• 2:07:57
  But it's also a way to to send messages to to other herders.
• 2:08:11
  Unknown: Thank you, Pummel.
• 2:08:32
  Unknown: Okay.
• 2:08:35
  Alright. Are the cows all in?
• 2:08:39
  Unknown: Apparently,
• 2:08:40
  they are.
• 2:08:41
  Unknown: Alright. Well, that
• 2:08:43
  means I'm going to the bar or the the the food bar.
• 2:08:47
  Food bar, please keep in proper perspective.
• 2:08:51
  I'll see you all tomorrow. Love all of you. Yes?
• 2:08:56
  Unknown: Actually,
• 2:08:58
  you can I believe you can teach any an animal to
• 2:09:02
  respond to or emulate a sound?
• 2:09:05
  And
• 2:09:06
  my cat, I
• 2:09:09
  say
• 2:09:10
  certain things to her
• 2:09:12
  all of the time.
• 2:09:13
  Okay, when she comes
• 2:09:16
  to me, I ask her, What do you want?
• 2:09:19
  Want.
• 2:09:21
  And she knows how to meow want.
• 2:09:23
  So when she comes up and she want I know she wants something because she'll meow want.
• 2:09:28
  And I also tell her, hello.
• 2:09:32
  And, like when I come in and when I wake up, when I walk into a room and she's there,
• 2:09:38
  she actually meows. It sounds like hello to me. It's a specific sound. And I also tell her all of the time, I love you.
• 2:09:48
  And she will come trotting in from the other room, and while she's coming in the room,
• 2:09:54
  she will meow, I love you.
• 2:09:56
  And just like she's announcing her presence in the room, she doesn't understand what it means, but it's just a sound that I make and she's attempting to emulate me as I attempt to emulate her.
• 2:10:09
  So
• 2:10:09
  animals,
• 2:10:11
  they have the ability.
• 2:10:13
  They have the ability to respond
• 2:10:15
  to certain sounds and
• 2:10:18
  just like parrots,
• 2:10:21
  they also have the ability to try and
• 2:10:25
  approximate those sounds too.
• 2:10:28
  Unknown: Got Doesn't mean they don't understand.
• 2:10:30
  They understand the intention.
• 2:10:33
  Unknown: Please record that sometime, Paul. I got a I got a funny parrot story, but I'm not gonna tell it right now. I'll tell you what I am gonna do though, Paul. I'm gonna go eat part of one of those animals. Okay?
• 2:10:45
  So I'll I'll
• 2:10:46
  see
• 2:10:48
  Manana
• 2:10:48
  at the show.
• 2:10:50
  Much love to all of you, and that
• 2:10:53
  means little kisses.
• 2:10:55
  See you tomorrow. If not, soon. Ciao. Alright. Thanks, Raj.
• 2:11:01
  Unknown: Okay. Anybody got anything else they wanna talk to or talk about before we wrap this up?
• 2:11:12
  Damn.
• 2:11:14
  I would say silence deems consent. So
• 2:11:17
  this the Ready Ranch.
• 2:11:19
  Paul? What what Christian?
• 2:11:23
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 2:11:24
  Unknown: What was that? He said joy
• 2:11:27
  get
• 2:11:28
  joy.
• 2:11:29
  What it was the rest of that to try to get the church
• 2:11:33
  Unknown: Service.
• 2:11:34
  Just just use the contact form
• 2:11:36
  and
• 2:11:38
  just use the contact form and in the note,
• 2:11:41
  the person you want to address is Joy.
• 2:11:44
  Just
• 2:11:45
  in the note,
• 2:11:47
  Joy, I'm having difficulty
• 2:11:48
  tuning in to the Saturday and Sunday programs.
• 2:11:53
  Can you please
• 2:11:54
  help tell me what to do?
• 2:11:57
  And You'll that'll
• 2:11:59
  be sending an email to inchurch,INNchurch@commonlawyer.com,
• 2:12:06
  and that is the email that the online contact form
• 2:12:11
  uses to send your message to them from the website.
• 2:12:15
  Unknown: Alright? Okay.
• 2:12:17
  Okay.
• 2:12:19
  Thank you. Piece of
• 2:12:21
  Unknown: cake.
• 2:12:22
  And if you don't get a response, you can send an email to them directly
• 2:12:26
  at ininchurch@commonlawyer.com,
• 2:12:31
  and you'll see that
• 2:12:34
  email address right there on the contact form on the website.
• 2:12:38
  Okay?
• 2:12:39
  Unknown: Okay.
• 2:12:40
  Unknown: Thank you. You're welcome.
• 2:12:42
  Alright. This has been the Friday edition of the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales and
• 2:12:48
  cohost Brent Allen Winters.
• 2:12:50
  We're here Monday through Saturday, 11AM to 1PM eastern.
• 2:12:54
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• 2:12:57
  Thanks to pastor Eli James.
• 2:12:59
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• 2:13:02
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• 2:13:06
  That'll take you to the Rumble channel where all of these episodes,
• 2:13:10
  exist.
• 2:13:11
  Any live program will show up just at the very top of the the list of episodes.
• 2:13:17
  Our website
• 2:13:18
  is thematrixstocks.com
• 2:13:21
  where you will find links to free conference calls. You can dial us up and you can join the conversation live,
• 2:13:28
  not only during the show, but in the afternoon and the after show. I'm Paul from Global Voice Network and Radio Ranch. Thanks.
• 2:13:53
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• 2:13:59
  Unknown: Bye bye, boys. Have fun storm ing the castle.