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- 0:00Speaker 1: I loved living in Brooklyn, But when Oggi was born,
- 0:04Speaker 1: Emily kept going on about Minnesota. She's from there originally,
- 0:08Speaker 1: and wanted Oggi to have family around a back yard
- 0:12Speaker 1: a sandbox uninhabited by rats. That summer, during a visit
- 0:17Speaker 1: back home, Emily showed me all that Minnesota had to
- 0:20Speaker 1: offer by taking me to the state Fair. At one point,
- 0:24Speaker 1: Emily pointed out a large, wobbly Hasidic man who appeared
- 0:28Speaker 1: to be wearing a tractor tire threaded through his belt. Loops.
- 0:32Speaker 1: You see, she said, sweetly, there are Jews in Minnesota.
- 0:43Speaker 1: The Minnesota offensive continued along. Emily looked at photos of
- 0:48Speaker 1: houses online with hedges to trim and fences to mend.
- 0:52Speaker 1: Having never owned a house, none of it made sense.
- 0:56Speaker 1: In Brooklyn, we lived across the street from a Chinese takeout.
- 1:00Speaker 1: A man named Albert brought our garbage to the curb
- 1:03Speaker 1: and once a month vacuumed the building hallway. What could
- 1:07Speaker 1: be better than that? But then Emily fell in love
- 1:11Speaker 1: with a house in Minnesota, a small enough place painted green.
- 1:17Speaker 1: In the photo, I could see a garden hose out front.
- 1:21Speaker 1: I am not going to water the lawn, I said.
- 1:23Speaker 1: I hate those guys, guys who water their lawns. She asked,
- 1:29Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I said, wearing shorts, waving
- 1:32Speaker 1: to passers by like they're in a David Lynch film.
- 1:36Speaker 1: And then we put in an offer. It was like
- 1:40Speaker 1: a bad dream. Surely I couldn't be leaving New York.
- 1:44Speaker 1: Surely something would happen, something would keep us from going
- 1:48Speaker 1: through with it. When I told my boss Alex about
- 1:51Speaker 1: my wife's plan, I prayed he'd put an end to it.
- 1:55Speaker 1: Forbidding it outright. All this plan was missing was a
- 1:59Speaker 1: good forbidding. You can work remote, he said. We moved
- 2:09Speaker 1: at the end of January during a polar vortex. That
- 2:13Speaker 1: first night in my new home, the rooms were bare
- 2:16Speaker 1: and cold. I can't feel my feet, I said, from
- 2:20Speaker 1: under the blankets. Spring will be here soon. Emily said
- 2:26Speaker 1: she'd been saying it all day. It was always about
- 2:29Speaker 1: spring being here, and oh how great that'll be. You've
- 2:33Speaker 1: never smelt paeonies so fresh, never tasted hot dish and
- 2:37Speaker 1: tater tots until you've had them warm to perfection under
- 2:41Speaker 1: the Minnesota sun. That first night was so quiet, the
- 2:45Speaker 1: noise in my head so loud. Without Brooklyn to drown
- 2:49Speaker 1: it out at our bedroom window. I looked out onto
- 2:52Speaker 1: the street, desolate under the street lamps, everything covered in ice,
- 2:57Speaker 1: glistening like knives. Quietly I wept, Spring will be here soon,
- 3:05Speaker 1: Emily said, and sure enough she was true to her word.
- 3:18Speaker 1: Spring is here, or what passes for spring in Minnesota.
- 3:23Speaker 1: The april snow has almost melted, and I can just
- 3:26Speaker 1: about see the sidewalks. It's time to put away my
- 3:29Speaker 1: long John's and roof shovel and whether I can smell
- 3:33Speaker 1: them from behind a facial mask or not, get ready
- 3:36Speaker 1: for the paeonies to bloom.
- 3:45Speaker 2: It's like the best time of the year. I love
- 3:48Speaker 2: the spring. All the buds are staring to come out,
- 3:52Speaker 2: report me.
- 3:54Speaker 3: So.
- 3:54Speaker 4: Now that the weather is getting nicer, my dad and
- 3:57Speaker 4: I have been taking walks together. I left Brooklyn about
- 4:01Speaker 4: a month ago. I moved back home where I grew up,
- 4:05Speaker 4: twenty minutes north of Manhattan. And so my dad and I,
- 4:10Speaker 4: when we're off on these walks, we invented this game
- 4:13Speaker 4: sewer Stones. We pick up rocks and the object of
- 4:18Speaker 4: the game is to bowl them into the sewer drains.
- 4:22Speaker 1: Mago maya.
- 4:26Speaker 2: Boom? Is that too? To one?
- 4:29Speaker 1: To one? Hold on hold on. Is this a game
- 4:34Speaker 1: that you guys played when you were a kid, So.
- 4:36Speaker 4: It's a lot like a lot of the games we
- 4:39Speaker 4: used to do when I was little.
- 4:40Speaker 1: All right, yeah, yeah, let's see it.
- 4:43Speaker 2: Let's see it. Very nice. Do you find that you're
- 4:50Speaker 2: doing like a lot of the stuff that you used
- 4:52Speaker 2: to do.
- 4:53Speaker 4: I feel like I'm just like a kid again. The
- 4:56Speaker 4: other day I found a pair of my dirty socks
- 5:02Speaker 4: on the floor in the dining room. I looked at
- 5:06Speaker 4: them and I was like, are those my sock? Like
- 5:09Speaker 4: I feel like I'm.
- 5:11Speaker 1: Regressing, Yeah, exactly. Are your parents happy to have you back?
- 5:18Speaker 2: Uh?
- 5:18Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah. My mom offered to cut my hair. She
- 5:23Speaker 4: used to cut our hair when we were kids. Like,
- 5:26Speaker 4: I have these really distinct memories of her kind of
- 5:28Speaker 4: like laying this towel out on the floor, this like
- 5:31Speaker 4: ratty green towel that we never used otherwise, and like
- 5:35Speaker 4: bringing a chair into the bathroom and she still has
- 5:38Speaker 4: that ratty green Towelochie, you're.
- 5:45Speaker 2: Really going at this pretty quick. I'm winging a little bit. Whoops. Sorry.
- 6:04Speaker 4: I think my mom is happy to be taking care
- 6:06Speaker 4: of us in this way that she hasn't had to
- 6:10Speaker 4: in a long time.
- 6:12Speaker 3: You want me to put my head down more.
- 6:16Speaker 2: Do you enjoy it?
- 6:17Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 6:17Speaker 3: I love this. This is looking really good.
- 6:24Speaker 2: In the back.
- 6:26Speaker 4: We've come so far from Oops.
- 6:33Speaker 2: Do you want me to go even shorter? Back here?
- 6:35Speaker 1: Maybe a little?
- 6:38Speaker 4: It was already pretty short, but I kind of just
- 6:42Speaker 4: wanted her to keep cutting. I just wanted to let
- 6:46Speaker 4: her do that.
- 7:06Speaker 2: Jonathan, what have you been up to? Well?
- 7:08Speaker 1: Thank you for asking. Sure, A good portion of my
- 7:11Speaker 1: day is given over to trying to keep my three
- 7:14Speaker 1: year old entertained. And I am just shameless. I'll do anything,
- 7:19Speaker 1: And I invent all these different characters like robo Papa
- 7:24Speaker 1: Papa yes, and like when I start talking to him normally,
- 7:29Speaker 1: he'll be like, no, no, no, I don't want to
- 7:31Speaker 1: talk to regular Papa. I want to talk to robo Papa.
- 7:34Speaker 1: Are we gonna am I going to purchase robo Papa.
- 7:40Speaker 1: If he doesn't get his fuel, he gets brain damage.
- 7:45Speaker 1: Emily hates it so much TV is. You know, we
- 7:51Speaker 1: try to keep it limited. So we're trying to teach
- 7:53Speaker 1: him that, you know, there's other ways to keep entertained,
- 7:57Speaker 1: you know, like old timey ways. So the other day
- 7:59Speaker 1: we built this puppet stage.
- 8:02Speaker 2: Welcome boys and goals and goals and ladies and man
- 8:07Speaker 2: gentlemen to the puppet job.
- 8:10Speaker 1: Yeah, and Emily pulled out this puppet Johnny that I
- 8:18Speaker 1: made when I was eleven years old. I was so
- 8:22Speaker 1: bereft of friends that I made this puppet name Johnny,
- 8:25Speaker 1: and I totally forgot about him, like it had been
- 8:28Speaker 1: you know, it was like forty years Oh no, no, no, yeah,
- 8:33Speaker 1: no no. I thought that it brought back memories of
- 8:38Speaker 1: like just loneliness and.
- 8:42Speaker 4: Wait, wait, you made a puppet and you named it
- 8:47Speaker 4: your name.
- 8:47Speaker 2: Does it look like you?
- 8:49Speaker 1: Emily would argue that it does look like me, and
- 8:53Speaker 1: she kind of brought Oggie on board. OGGI, do you
- 8:56Speaker 1: think this looks like Papa? Nou? How does it looked
- 9:00Speaker 1: like me? Looks like unique?
- 9:03Speaker 4: Like Papa likes Hey?
- 9:04Speaker 1: Yah, Yes, Papa doesn't have any hair, but if he
- 9:07Speaker 1: had hair, he.
- 9:08Speaker 2: Would look just like this.
- 9:16Speaker 1: So the play was basically Johnny and Swipey. Swipey is
- 9:20Speaker 1: this other but that we have a raccoon? Okay, we're
- 9:24Speaker 1: gonna see a play between Johnny and Swipey. It was
- 9:30Speaker 1: really hard to get off the ground because Aggie is
- 9:34Speaker 1: like he was just really over directing me and everything
- 9:36Speaker 1: I was doing was wrong.
- 9:37Speaker 2: Oh, it's one of those typically hard to work with directors. No, no, no, no.
- 9:46Speaker 1: It just ended up devolving into this like big dance
- 9:50Speaker 1: party and Aggie made us all dance dancing planks. I
- 9:56Speaker 1: don't know. It was just fun and it just seemed
- 9:58Speaker 1: like licensed, just too crazy things and like we still
- 10:01Speaker 1: haven't taken down the puppet, the puppet stage in the
- 10:04Speaker 1: living room. And it's nice that we actually have a
- 10:06Speaker 1: living room, you know, but we we didn't really in
- 10:11Speaker 1: New York. Things were just things were a lot smaller
- 10:15Speaker 1: and and so that's yeah, that's nice. You know. The
- 10:27Speaker 1: last time I visited New York was right before everything changed,
- 10:32Speaker 1: and the three of us got together for drinks. I
- 10:36Speaker 1: think was the night that the Gimblet offices shut down.
- 10:41Speaker 2: And it was the last I didn't know it at
- 10:44Speaker 2: the time, but it ended up being the last day
- 10:45Speaker 2: that I went to a bar me too.
- 10:49Speaker 1: And there was something else noteworthy about that evening that
- 10:51Speaker 1: we've that we've since talked about. It was the last
- 10:56Speaker 1: time that any of us shook hands with somebody else. Yeah, yeah,
- 11:02Speaker 1: someone that we ran into that evening at the bar.
- 11:04Speaker 2: You ever heard of award winning producer of The Jinks.
- 11:09Speaker 1: Can you say? Award winning producer of The Jinks Again, Award.
- 11:13Speaker 2: Winning producer of documentary The Jinks.
- 11:19Speaker 1: We happened to run into a former co worker of ours,
- 11:23Speaker 1: someone who used to work at Gimblet, Mark Smirling.
- 11:26Speaker 2: You ever heard of crime Town?
- 11:31Speaker 3: You know?
- 11:31Speaker 1: Recently a doctor Anthony Fauci made that statement about how
- 11:37Speaker 1: we may never return back to shaking hands. Yeah, I
- 11:41Speaker 1: mean it's weird. It's weird to think that Mark Smirling
- 11:44Speaker 1: might be the last person that any of us end
- 11:47Speaker 1: up shaking hands with. Yeah, do you think that? I mean,
- 11:51Speaker 1: were we the last people that he shook hands with?
- 11:53Speaker 2: Do you think, Well, there's only one way to find out.
- 12:03Speaker 3: I'm looking across the room and there's Stevie or you
- 12:06Speaker 3: can't forget.
- 12:08Speaker 2: The unforgettable, the unforgettable Stevie Lane.
- 12:10Speaker 3: Yeah, So I got up, went over and shook your hands.
- 12:15Speaker 1: Your hand might be the last hand we ever shake.
- 12:19Speaker 3: Lucky you. I could have gotten you all sick, right there?
- 12:24Speaker 1: Is it the same for you? Were we the last
- 12:26Speaker 1: people that you ever shook hands with?
- 12:29Speaker 3: Hmm?
- 12:31Speaker 1: It probably is.
- 12:32Speaker 3: It seems like right after that things started to close in. Yeah,
- 12:37Speaker 3: and you know my contact with the outer world, sort
- 12:41Speaker 3: of vannists.
- 12:42Speaker 1: Where are you right now, Brooklyn?
- 12:44Speaker 3: I'm in Clinton Hill?
- 12:45Speaker 2: Me too, I'm in Clinton Hill.
- 12:47Speaker 3: Oh my god, I might have seen you around though,
- 12:49Speaker 3: I'm thinking about it.
- 12:50Speaker 4: You guys should just open your windows and you can
- 12:52Speaker 4: yell to each other.
- 12:53Speaker 1: Were you born in New York? Are you from New York?
- 12:55Speaker 3: Originally I'm a Jersey boy from South Orange, but but
- 13:00Speaker 3: I've been in New York since I was eight.
- 13:02Speaker 1: Is there still an upsign to being in New York? Like,
- 13:05Speaker 1: do you have moments where you're like, you know what,
- 13:07Speaker 1: it's still good to be here somehow.
- 13:10Speaker 3: Well, food delivery is a big plus, you know, although
- 13:14Speaker 3: we have to like use all kinds of toxic chemicals
- 13:17Speaker 3: to clean off the bag and wrappings. You know, living
- 13:24Speaker 3: in New York is it just.
- 13:26Speaker 1: Is not the place to be during the pandemic.
- 13:30Speaker 3: Oh, there is one magical thing. I can get a
- 13:31Speaker 3: parking spot really easily.
- 13:33Speaker 1: That's a plus.
- 13:42Speaker 2: A thing I've really been missing about New York is
- 13:44Speaker 2: like being in a hurry and being like I don't
- 13:46Speaker 2: have time for a real dinner, and so you're like
- 13:48Speaker 2: getting a slice of pizza and eating it really quickly.
- 13:50Speaker 2: On the street because you have some place you're trying
- 13:52Speaker 2: to get to. Yeah, Like I just really I miss
- 13:56Speaker 2: some places so much. Yeah, I don't know. I was
- 14:01Speaker 2: thinking about. The thing that I think I really love
- 14:05Speaker 2: about New York is like the feeling of being alone
- 14:09Speaker 2: around other people. Like I would be out by myself, ye,
- 14:13Speaker 2: like on the train alone, or like walking home on
- 14:16Speaker 2: a Friday night and just passing bars and hearing like
- 14:19Speaker 2: the hum of people's voices and bars, like it just
- 14:22Speaker 2: made you feel like you were like a part of
- 14:24Speaker 2: something even if I wasn't with people. Yeah, And now
- 14:30Speaker 2: it's like instead of being alone with other people, I'm
- 14:33Speaker 2: just like alone alone.
- 14:34Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 14:35Speaker 2: Yeah, like everyone's gone, I can't do anything. And I
- 14:39Speaker 2: mentioned it to someone who is still in Brooklyn. Yeah,
- 14:42Speaker 2: and she was like, but don't you kind of feel
- 14:44Speaker 2: like proud that you're still here? And I was like, yeah, actually,
- 14:47Speaker 2: like I do, Like I feel like that's the thing
- 14:50Speaker 2: that feels like unchanged. It's that like there's like a
- 14:55Speaker 2: feeling of like when you're living in New York that
- 14:57Speaker 2: like everyone's miserable and like stressed out and in a
- 14:59Speaker 2: small part, but there's this pride in the fact that
- 15:03Speaker 2: you're doing that. Do you know what I mean? Like,
- 15:05Speaker 2: like everyone's really unhappy, but you're like, I actually like
- 15:09Speaker 2: sitting at my computer till eight pm and then eating
- 15:12Speaker 2: a piece of pizza on a dirty street.
- 15:14Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 15:15Speaker 1: It's like irrational and unquantifiable, but you just sort of
- 15:18Speaker 1: feel love for the place.
- 15:20Speaker 2: Yeah. You know there's that cheer every night at seven
- 15:24Speaker 2: pm for healthcare workers.
- 15:26Speaker 4: Yeah have you participated?
- 15:28Speaker 3: No?
- 15:29Speaker 2: I haven't, And it makes me feel bad because I'm like,
- 15:31Speaker 2: I know it's a nice thing.
- 15:33Speaker 1: But then I mean, but you're probably like someone who
- 15:35Speaker 1: like when when you go to like a sporting event
- 15:38Speaker 1: of some kind and everybody starts like clapping their seats
- 15:41Speaker 1: and singing we will rock you like you're just like
- 15:43Speaker 1: I'm going to sit this one out.
- 15:45Speaker 2: That's true. And when I go to a show and
- 15:47Speaker 2: they say how's everyone doing, I just say fine. I
- 15:50Speaker 2: just like feel like I'm not going to be.
- 15:51Speaker 1: Like, whoo it's I don't think I've ever heard you
- 15:55Speaker 1: make that wu sound.
- 15:56Speaker 2: But last night when it happened, my downstairs neighbors started
- 15:59Speaker 2: blast sing that you know that New York New York song,
- 16:03Speaker 2: Oh that SNATA song.
- 16:04Speaker 1: Yeah, start spreading the news.
- 16:07Speaker 2: Yeah, that one and he was really like blasting it.
- 16:10Speaker 2: It was really loud and he was like singing along
- 16:12Speaker 2: and everyone on the street was like doing their cheer
- 16:15Speaker 2: and like people were getting excited about him playing the
- 16:18Speaker 2: song and we're like cheering, and it made me like
- 16:20Speaker 2: so emotional. Yeah, I don't know. It did give me
- 16:28Speaker 2: like a little bit of that feeling i'd been missing
- 16:30Speaker 2: of like here we all are in the city and
- 16:33Speaker 2: like I'm alone, but I'm I'm also with other people.
- 17:00Speaker 4: Do I know know when you're drinking