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#623 - Wallie The Sensei on Signing to Travis Scott’s 'Cactus Jack', Kendrick Lamar, GNX Sessions & More · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Yo.
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  Speaker 2: Bootleg keV Show.
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  Speaker 1: Man.
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  Speaker 2: We got a special guest in here, my dog Walley.
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  Speaker 2: The sen say, welcome.
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  Speaker 1: Back, keV. What up man? What's the big old deal? Uh?
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  Speaker 2: Man, you're the big old deal, sir. Congrats on everything
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  Speaker 2: since last time you've been here. Obviously the worst kept
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  Speaker 2: secret in the music industry. You have been you know,
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  Speaker 2: brought onto the Cactus Jack Team. Congratulations, man, I appreciate
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  Speaker 2: it a part of a number one album, sir shout
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  Speaker 2: out to the squad. Yeah, man, what has been like
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  Speaker 2: that journey? Because I know, like you and I would
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  Speaker 2: talk like kind of behind the scenes, like I know
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  Speaker 2: it was been percolating, cooking in the background for a
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  Speaker 2: little bit, Like how did you initially kind of get
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  Speaker 2: on to Travis's radar?
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  Speaker 1: Damn? So it's kind of crazy, right because I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: everybody been thinking like damn, like he did the gn
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  Speaker 1: X feature, Yeah, and then that got himTo where Travis
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  Speaker 1: seeing him. What's crazy is I was already I was
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  Speaker 1: already signed the Cactus before the gn.
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  Speaker 2: X, So before Dodger Blue happens, you're already are part
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  Speaker 2: of that.
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  Speaker 1: I was already signed. I just I just had to
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  Speaker 1: announced it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure I knew that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, You've been telling me for a minute because we
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  Speaker 2: had a record of the Lexus. You're like, yo, man,
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  Speaker 2: this is the last song. Will put it out because
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  Speaker 2: this shit's about that, like kicking, I.
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  Speaker 1: Got some shit going on. But yeah, bro, he just
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  Speaker 1: like we linked up a couple of times through Zona
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  Speaker 1: or a blessing video shoot, was probably the first time.
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  Speaker 1: And then we end up in the studio just playing music.
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  Speaker 1: I started playing music and he was going crazy, like
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  Speaker 1: what the fuck? Bro?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you have like this ability to go into the
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  Speaker 2: studio and just plugging the OX and just fuck up
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  Speaker 2: the whole room.
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  Speaker 1: You did. I got some wild shit in this phone,
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  Speaker 1: no cap, I ain't gonna lie. I don't think. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think nobody like as far as the music that
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  Speaker 1: I got unreleased, this shit is crazy, bro. Like. My
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  Speaker 1: main goal right now is to make sure that the
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  Speaker 1: story match the music. So because I know I got
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  Speaker 1: the music, I do this shit every day, So now
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  Speaker 1: my goal is just so people won't miss so many
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  Speaker 1: parts of the story right and just get lost in
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  Speaker 1: the music. I'm trying to like ease it out, but
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  Speaker 1: I want to just let it all go at the
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  Speaker 1: same time.
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  Speaker 2: How because you know, obviously being in this situation, it's
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  Speaker 2: a big look You've You've obviously been in other situations before.
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  Speaker 2: But what has been kind of the key to kind
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  Speaker 2: of like slow rolling the rollout, making sure people kind
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  Speaker 2: of are hip to who you are, where you come from,
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  Speaker 2: getting people invested out, because I feel like La is
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  Speaker 2: already invested in you you already you already have La classics,
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  Speaker 2: but to get like, you know, the rest of the
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  Speaker 2: world kind of onto the train.
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  Speaker 1: Were really the main thing is just making sure that
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  Speaker 1: you creatively They're like, yeah, especially being a part of
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  Speaker 1: Joining Cactus. You know, it's like a this label is
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  Speaker 1: huge in a creative lane, right, So it's just about
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  Speaker 1: matching that energy like in my own way though, And
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  Speaker 1: that's why I'm grateful because I got the room. I
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  Speaker 1: got the room to do that over yeah like versus
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I could have been anywhere else,
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  Speaker 1: but it's just not the same, right, And I feel
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  Speaker 1: like for me, it's always difficult when I get in
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  Speaker 1: situations because nobody ever dealt with artists like me. So
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  Speaker 1: it's like, you know, like say, you might have a
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  Speaker 1: label and you you've made a thousand artists successful, but
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  Speaker 1: then you got this dude, like I'm really different from
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  Speaker 1: every other artist that people run into. So it's like damn,
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  Speaker 1: all right, what do we do with this nigga dude?
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  Speaker 1: Like send him through the same send him through the
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  Speaker 1: same route. Like now it's kind of different, and it
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  Speaker 1: made it kind of difficult for me from the jump.
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  Speaker 1: But at the same time, I'm grateful because it's like,
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  Speaker 1: all right, I can just I can show that versatility
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  Speaker 1: and that can be my thing.
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  Speaker 2: Was Travis like a fan of like oh three Flow
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  Speaker 2: or Scandalous or any of your like yeah, yeah classics.
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  Speaker 1: HEU with my with my original ship.
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  Speaker 2: Because I feel like you had like like if you've
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  Speaker 2: ever gone out in la you had to have your ship.
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  Speaker 1: Fact, man, it was a time. It was a point
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  Speaker 1: of time where you couldn't get away from it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of crazy. You have like a like
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  Speaker 2: I feel like there's a few guys out here who,
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  Speaker 2: no matter what happens, like shit hits the fan, you're
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  Speaker 2: always you always got that bag. Bro, What it's been
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  Speaker 2: like for you? Because creatively, like you talked about Travis,
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  Speaker 2: Travis is such a big creative. He's such a you
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  Speaker 2: know when it comes to fashion, when it comes to
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  Speaker 2: sonics all that shit, and like you are alien because
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  Speaker 2: you can rap, you could do singing ship and you
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  Speaker 2: do it so effortlessly that initial studio link up. What's
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  Speaker 2: the creative bond like there, like, like how is it?
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  Speaker 1: Honestly? Man, dude is crazy, Like he he do so
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  Speaker 1: many different things that I don't do. I just watch right,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like I try to anytime I'm in a
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  Speaker 1: studio with any of the guys that have been doing
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  Speaker 1: this shit longer than me, I'll try to find a
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  Speaker 1: way to service them, you know, in the creative ship.
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  Speaker 1: But at the same time, like like Bro's a unicorn here,
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  Speaker 1: unicorns just like I am right, because he can produce
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  Speaker 1: rap all this ship, even like the ship that we
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  Speaker 1: might choose to let you see, like we all got
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  Speaker 1: more bags than that. But it's it's always learning experience
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  Speaker 1: when I'm around him and any any of the other
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  Speaker 1: homies that been just.
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  Speaker 2: The future, so give you a future a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he another one. He out of this world. They
• 6:31
  Speaker 1: the work ethic is just crazy, Like my work ethic
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  Speaker 1: is crazy, and there's this too, So I just try
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  Speaker 1: to pick up whatever I can, like try to pay
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  Speaker 1: attention to the to the ship that other people ain't
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  Speaker 1: paying attention to.
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  Speaker 2: I know you have a lot of unreleased music with
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  Speaker 2: a lot of big artists, is there. Uh, I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: the clip is going to be pretty crazy for your
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  Speaker 2: debut project.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I really want to, I really want I really
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  Speaker 1: don't want to lose sight of like people to lose
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  Speaker 1: sight of of like just where I am as well
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  Speaker 1: thor Yeah. So it's like I cooked up this project
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  Speaker 1: so many times, bro, like started from scratch because I
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  Speaker 1: had so many different ideas of what it should be like.
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  Speaker 1: And then I'm like, I gotta I gotta have some
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  Speaker 1: parts of this ship that's dedicated to the core fans that.
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  Speaker 2: We're two biggest songs are just you. You know what
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like the songs that change your life, they're
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  Speaker 2: you with with no, yeah, yeah, you're right. It's like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, that's kind of how you got here? Do
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  Speaker 2: you feel like? Because for people who don't know the
• 7:36
  Speaker 2: dip record, which is all over the radio right now,
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  Speaker 2: the dip record is an old song, like you've had
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  Speaker 2: that song forever. How much of this project are you
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  Speaker 2: picking between? Like, Man, I've been working on shit that
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  Speaker 2: I got in the cut and I've also been working
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  Speaker 2: on new ship, Like are you putting it all together?
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  Speaker 2: Are you like how you compartmentalizing?
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  Speaker 1: Like if on this project specifically, most of the songs
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  Speaker 1: are I had to?
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  Speaker 2: I had to I got demo itis on the old ship.
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  Speaker 1: No, It's just like I'm making so much ship, bro,
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  Speaker 1: I'm never gonna be able to get all this ship
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  Speaker 1: out right. So if I go all the way back
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  Speaker 1: to the to the oldest ship, by the time I
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  Speaker 1: get to this new ship, it's gonna be old anyway,
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  Speaker 1: so it's gonna be the same problem. So I just
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  Speaker 1: try to go with whatever it feel best, whatever feel good,
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  Speaker 1: whatever you can, you can play through this ship and
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  Speaker 1: there's no skips like you know that that was my thing?
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  Speaker 2: Uh, who's been Because you've been in the studio with
• 8:33
  Speaker 2: so many legends, who for you was like the most
• 8:36
  Speaker 2: because you're a songwriter who's recording process or songwriting process
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  Speaker 2: kind of threw you off or impressed you the most.
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  Speaker 2: So far.
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  Speaker 1: Impressed me the most. Future. It's between future and yeah,
• 8:56
  Speaker 1: because we ain't talking producing anyhing, right, No, just yeah,
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  Speaker 1: future most impressive and Kendrick on the right in side
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  Speaker 1: he crazy, But I'm gonna just say future because the
• 9:09
  Speaker 1: style of how he doing things, Like, I just I
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  Speaker 1: love the way he fully operating right like the whole room.
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  Speaker 1: I like the way it's operating, and I work at
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  Speaker 1: a fast paced so I feel like when I watch
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  Speaker 1: what he do, that's more kind of your Yeah, like
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  Speaker 1: where I will want to take things.
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  Speaker 2: with dot when you guys do Dodger blue?
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 2: So what is kind of because it's a very short song,
• 11:12
  Speaker 2: that's this type of song. I wish it was like
• 11:13
  Speaker 2: six minutes long because it's such a great record.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, survived though makes the album.
• 11:20
  Speaker 2: What is that studio session like with Kendrick and and
• 11:23
  Speaker 2: like obviously it's some confidence shit going on.
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  Speaker 1: Man, keep it trill. The ship was like the exact
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: opposite of what my sessions is like.
• 11:32
  Speaker 2: Like your sessions are fun.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying it wasn't fun. It was just a
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: slower pace, right, like, but everything is intentional, like like
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  Speaker 1: I might just go and he really challenged me. He
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: challenged me to make sure every bar is intentional and
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: said the way that it should be said, because I
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: might when I'm recording, I might I might feel you
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: feel like damn, like this part ain't really right, but
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: I'll come back to it later or maybe when the
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: whole song is done, you won't notice it. And he
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: kind of challenged me, like, nah, I want you to
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  Speaker 1: do that, like I want you to first option, second option,
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: third option, if it ain't hitting, still go to that
• 12:16
  Speaker 1: fourth fifth, sick goal, to as many options as you
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: need to go to until you figure it out every bar.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm like, damn, I kind of needed to hear
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: that because I've been back and forth with my head
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  Speaker 1: about it. But him telling me that, I was like,
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: all right, I got I gotta take them extra steps
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  Speaker 1: to make sure that this year is that that is
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  Speaker 1: all cohesive.
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: Do you remember which line like he hit you like
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: you got to rehit this, you got to rehit this, Like.
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I had said I had a bar
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: on the song that we had to take off. Damn.
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: What was it hold on, I had a bar on
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: there and he like, like, I get it. It's a
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: hard bar. He like, but like better, you can do better?
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: Made you change it or just yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I did the whole I did my verse like
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: I forgot the bar, but I did the verse like
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: seven different ways. M.
• 13:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he had and is he directing you like yeah,
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  Speaker 2: try this way, try it this way like some.
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  Speaker 1: Of the time. Yeah. Yeah. And then we got to
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: a point where he just he just stepped away and
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: then I knocked it out. That's fire.
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: How much was his parts of the song already fit?
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: Was there any like like bones of the song? Are
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: you just in there with the beat?
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  Speaker 1: Like?
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: Do you hear anything else from the record? M?
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: I think his rap verse from the beginning of the
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: song was there. It might see. The thing is it
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: could have been, but he's so mysterious, like it probably wasn't.
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: It was probably muted so that we couldn't hear it.
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  Speaker 1: So like when the song came out, like me roddy
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  Speaker 1: yet they none of us knew that each other was
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: on the song. That's pretty dope. Yeah, we didn't even
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  Speaker 1: when the song came out. It didn't have no names
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  Speaker 1: on it. I just remember that, ye Kendrick Lamar Dodger Blue.
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: I remember I was in Thailand the day it was
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: like it dropped. I was in Thailand leaving Rolling Loud
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: and we're freaking the funk out in the in the
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: van and like, I'm just hearing everyone's verse.
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah you gotta listen for I'm.
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: Like, oh shit, that's Lefty Guns.
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that shit was interesting. But shout out to brunh.
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: I think it. I mean, obviously it's it's I mean,
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: I hope that's not the last time you guys worked together.
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: Nah for Damn Show hopefully not.
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: Did you guys work on anything else that just didn't?
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we got other ship, Yeah, oh ship too, like
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: to be honest.
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: With from the same session.
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  Speaker 1: I think we did like two three sessions for Dodger
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  Speaker 1: Blue alone, and yeah, we cut another song in one
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: of those sessions. It was crazy, So maybe, I mean
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: it might even be even better than.
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: Is that the kind of thing where like, if it
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: doesn't end up coming out you had to have Trav
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: make the call, like, hey, could we get that over
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  Speaker 2: here on this debut album?
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  Speaker 1: Nah? You know what I really be trying to build
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: like I'll really be working on building like real relationships
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  Speaker 1: with all these people. Like even though I know being
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: signed to Cactus or and shit like that, I know
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  Speaker 1: that to probably make stuff easier if I made calls
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  Speaker 1: like that, But I really be wanting to build these
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: relationships from the ground up so they real, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I don't even I probably don't
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: use the juice as much as.
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: But to be fair, I feel like just on some
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: confident shit, like it's probably easier for you to make
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: that call, you know type shit, Yeah, on some relationship.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, man, you know what's up?
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: So do we have a date? I know you have
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: a show coming up on February thirteenth, It's at the Novo, right, yep.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: And then we got the project mad Dog coming out
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: January thirtieth. Relationship boots this shit on the flow, it's
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: on the way.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: Why mad Dog has nothing to do with the beer.
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  Speaker 1: No, No, none of that. Well, yeah, because that's like
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: the whole nostalgic side of it. Yeah, just took me
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: back to a specific time in my life. But mad
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  Speaker 1: Dog is more so an expression of just our niggas
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  Speaker 1: is where I come from. Yeah, Like I feel like
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: that's that's just the explanation for like, damn, why he
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: acts like that. I just feel like that's that's the
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: that's what we are given when were pushing it. When
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: we're moving around, we go to different states, like we
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: don't fit in, bro, we don't fit in no matter
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: where we go. I went to Alaska crazy years ago,
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, damn, everywhere I go, why did you
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: go there? I'm scarous working on the fishing boats and shit,
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: oh shit, yeah I did that shit right for like
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: a whole season. Yeah I did, like three years. I
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: had no idea. Yeah, hell yeah, that shit was crazy.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: We got to get into that.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: But I used to be thinking like, damn, why everywhere
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: I go it's like I gotta talk myself out of
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: doing something to somebody, right, like it is everybody the problem.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: And I started thinking like, man, I gotta be the
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: fucking problem. Bro, there's no way everywhere I go. I'm
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: talking about I'm sitting here having the same conversation with
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: myself like it ain't worth it. It ain't worth it,
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: Like I'm just angry ass dudes sometimes like or that's
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: how I can be perceived because these is just our
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: standard morals like dudes and don't. But when you go
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: other places, it's like, damn, why do they not respect
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: personal space like we do? Or why do they say
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: shit that we don't allow people to say to us
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: when it don't got to be said. It make us
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: look like just we just some angry motherfuckers.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: But yeah, not everybody has the same boundaries of humor,
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, mad dog managing angry demons, deprived of God's grace.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Damn, it's a fucking acronym. I don't take you to
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: come up with that ship though that I had to
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: be like, I had to be a night.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Man. Shout out to everybody who's sick as hell right now? Ship.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: I hope it ain't me next.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: Bro, everybody's sick as fuck.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: This shit crazy, yo, So talk to you were what
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: were you like? Okay, so you go to Alaska to
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: do the fishing bowl? Shit, tell me about this man.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: This is a very intriguing wrinkling the wally the sense story.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm, what kind of fish? What was it like?
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: So? Yeah, I got out of jail one time and
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: I got on the bus because I was trying to
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: surprise my family. I'm like, damn, I ain't even gonna
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: tell nobody that I'm getting up. Let's just get on
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: the train. I'm gonna pop up at the house. So
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: when I got on the train, then I got on
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: the bus, it was these two dudes sitting in front
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: of me, and they had like a newspaper or some shit,
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: and they like they they planning out their whole trip,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: like like yeah, man, like they talking about how much
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: they're finna get paid this, this and that. So I'm like, hey,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: what's that you know, Like, what's how long? What's that
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: right there? So they give me the paper because one
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: of the dudes he like, bro, I'm not doing that shit.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: I'm like, shit, whatever it is for the amount of
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: money they talking about, I'll do it. So me not
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: even knowing like all the information I called. I called
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: this number. They told me to fill out an application.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: I filed it out. Bro. They called me like old
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: days later, like trying to fly me to last I'm like, damn,
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna just go. I'm finna see what this shit about.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: So I did the orientation. They sent me out to Seattle.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: That's like the meeting point for when you going to
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Alaska to me Seattle. I went out to Dutch Harbor.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: B this shit was like, this shit was a whole
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: nother world. Like it's a spot in Dutch Harbor. It's
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: called Unalaska, Dutch Harbor, Unalaska. Bro, it's a fucking small
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: ass island with nothing on it, Like it's one grocery store,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: one coffee shop, one McDonald's, and like in the school.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: And then they got the bunkers up there where the
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: where the US army used to be. Yeah, I guess
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: when they took over, because this shit. I guess this
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: ship might have been Russia at one point.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know Alaska was one of the last states.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: I think it was forty nine or fifty.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: So they still got the bunkers up there looking exactly
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: how it did whenever they the war ended, so like
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: you could go up there and look at this shit.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: But yeah, this shit was crazy, bro, cold as fuck.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: The work I'm working like twenty one hour shit today.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: It on the boat.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: I ended up. I did it in the in the
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: plant first, and then I went back and did it
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: on the boat. So we went out into the barren
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: sea and like a big ass vessel like the American
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Sea Freeze. I was part of the first crew. That's
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: like the big it was the biggest ship ever for fishing.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: So I went on the American Sea Freeze out to
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: the barren Sea did that ship.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: So you're like, it's gotta be freezing. What kind of
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: fish are you guys catching.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: When we was in the when we was in a plant,
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: we was catching crab, pollock crab and pollock Alaskan king
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: crab and yeah yeah, and then when we was on
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: a boat, we was mainly catching like yellow fin. And
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: then some seasons you'll catch perch and ship like that.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: That's crazy, Like you get big ass salmon's and ship.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Too, but just in the net, just like thousands of
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: fishes probably get pulled up.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, millions of pounds at a time. That's crazy.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: And that shit pays well. I heard like some people
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: like the only work during that season.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you go out there for three months and.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Then they're off the rest of the year.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: The rest of the year, you straight. I just kept
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: sucking up. I was going doing this shit because the work,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: the work ain't easy. This ship is like the hardest
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: work you're ever do in your life. So I come
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: home fucked my bag up, like I just kept getting
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: in trouble. I come home, ended up getting in trouble
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: or something, going back to jail, or just helping too much,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: helping helping people too much, running a little on the bread.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: I had to go back. So that was kind of
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: like my route for a minute.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: So you like, go work, come home, spend the block,
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: come home. Yeah, did you ever take down any Alaskan chicks?
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: My damn show Eskimo Cuchie, you know I had to.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: How's the Eskimokuchie?
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Oh? Man, that shit themfold fire.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: I feel like they probably are probably like you know,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: obviously if it's in a town, or there's only one
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: McDonald's in one Bro.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: They never seen a black dude before. When they when
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: you get off the plane, it's like you like lunch meat. Bro.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: They trying to take you back to the Philippines. All
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: kind of shit. It's crazy.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: That's wild, man. So you would you say you are
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: a fisherman by trade? Like if worst comes the worst,
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: we need we had a boat, we go get some fish.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: For sure, we can. I can take it. I could
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: lead you to the to the water.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: You can teach me a man how to fish. But
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: after that it is what it is you did. So
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: let's talk about Mad Dog. Can you reveal any features
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: from the project?
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we got of course, Tie and Blash,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Roddy Rich.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Okay, those are the ones that are already out.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: So yep, yeah, some ship that y'all.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Know, keyword is revealed.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: I got some Don Tolliver ship on there.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Don Tolliver all right.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: And then but now that's it. No, Travis mm, Travis
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: ain't on there at the moment. They leaked our song,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: the song that I was putting on the album. Yeah,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: they leaked it. So it's like, damn sure, did you
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: find out who leaked it? No? That's a good question
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: though that I've been asking myself, like, damn they leaked this,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: should you still drop it? Hell?
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I didn't know. I didn't know you had
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: a song leak.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah. If you go on YouTube right now.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Listen, man, most people ain't fucking paying attention to leaks.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: I'll be hearing that shit was like, Yo, my whole
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: album leaked. I'm like, dog, I had no idea, I
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: had no fun.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's a good thing out of the leak, because now
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: you can go change some of this ship, because yeah,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: make it leaked and didn't go crazy.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, switch it up a little.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: You gotta switch it up.
• 24:48
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• 25:18
  Speaker 2: because obviously the last time you came up here was
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: with Meet the Woops. Is that a project that's still
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: being worked on or what's kind of the status there?
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Because I had ys up here and who else came
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: up here? Oh? Jay Worthy was up here. Feels like
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: that kind of tape is kind of.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: And they still working. Yeah, Meet the Wop still working.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: I just actually pulled up on them in the studio.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: I put up on them in the studio recently and
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: we did some ship, lay some hard ship and shout
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: out to the gosh, well yeah they're still working.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Do you.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: I feel like the there's this like energy with you
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: and Roddy that is very very coming from l a
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: similar How much unreleased ship do you guys have together,
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: because we already have obviously Dodger blues out and obviously
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: beams out Man.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Shout out to Roddy Man, Me and me and Bro.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: We just I feel like the role that we playing
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: it's just a little bigger than music. Like as far
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: as with each other, I wouldn't say we got a
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: whole lot of music, but like that ship is accessible
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: for the both of us, Like you know, he know
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: he can call me for anything, you know, musically in
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: the same vice versus. So that's just what it is.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: If you could do a joint album with anybody, who
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: would be a.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Joint album with anybody? Uh, It'll probably be Chris Burrow.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: That'd be crazy. I'll do a joint album with I mean, yeah,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: uh popcor Okay, fucking t pa ynw Melly.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: That'd be a tough one.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of people I would do
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: that with Honestly, should I do a joint album with Emine?
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: I like that, do you do? You are? Hooks?
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Just hooks and then let him get the let him
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: get them verses off, Like look and I got you
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: on the hooks. Yeah, let me just give you a
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: bunch of open go crazy.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Don Tolliver, Travis.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: You've heard a lot of people talk about like how
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: the gm X look has like kind of affected their
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: career path or not. How how did that being on
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: that album change? Did it change anything? I mean, like
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: you said, you're already on the Cactus Jack situation, but
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: did that look change anything? Did you notice the difference
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: like after the album comes out and people kind of realize,
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: oh shit, that's while we're on there.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, gn next shit had a real positive Uh. It
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: gave me a real positive push, bro, because you know,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: like sometimes it's bigger than music. Sometimes some people might
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: fuck with you because y'all share personal things, you know
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I feel like that that certain
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: group of people that that might might have even respected
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: my music but just still didn't fuck with me, right.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: I feel like it opened the door for them to
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: be like Okay.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Nah, It's almost like that those kind of looks have
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: to happen for certain people to.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Be like all right, I like him even for it
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: to reach them, to reach their ear, because you know,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: everybody don't live the same bro, so you gotta think
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: when you wake up, get in your car, and do
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: what you're doing for the day. Some people will never
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: have a chance to even run across this shit, right,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, Like they might fuck
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: with who they fuck with musically for specific reasons. Some
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: people are that intentional, like you know, so I feel
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: like it really did open that and the type of
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: song it was, the name of the song, it was
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: just a real I.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Mean, it's a West Coast anthem, the Dodgers fucking you know,
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: go to the World Series or whatever. That's like a
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: forever song.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: It's a real dedication to the home team, you know.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that ship. That ship helped me a lot.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Anybody from Compton that we're not up on that we
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: should be.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Up on mm hmm, yeah for sure. Four four eight.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: He he was on my second project, Golden Child. Yeah,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: he was on Golden Child on a song we had
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: called Cuisine. But since then he didn't like threw so
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: much and this nigga, he he didn't really figured it out.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: He found this he said niche.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean niche.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he found his niche. And I've been listening to
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: the ship he been doing lately. I'm like, damn, you
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: gotta figure it out. The ship cold. But fourth foy eight,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: God damn Epic must die specifically from the city, right yeah, yeah,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: fourth foy eight Epic must die. Bang Gotty, God damn
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: bang Gotti for show he's been he's been doing his
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: ship hard ship and it's and it's got like a
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: little difference to it. Who else you know? All the
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: guys Mari Ruger. Why is y'all know all the guys already?
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: But for the people who don't, Yeah, ship those names
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: right there?
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Do you realize you're probably about to win a Grammy?
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I think about it. I thought about it yesterday.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: I haven't really thought about it, bro, I ain't gonna lie.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: I haven't thought about it since like I posted it
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: and then, like you know, I don't be dwelling on
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: ship like positive or negative. I'd be like whatever is
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: in front of me. I'm just trying to tackle what
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: I'm on. But I'm like, damn, sometimes I'll be looking
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: up them. Yeah, you dirty motherfucker you doing it?
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: Like yeah, like there's like a very bad, serious chance
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: that gn X is gonna win. I'd be I don't
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: even multiple Grammy as a body of work.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: As this shit be going on. I like to I
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: like to live by a year, right, so so at
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: the end of this year, I'll look back and see
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: what I did, and then I can, like, you know,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: look in the mirror and be happy.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: That's crazy. That shit was November of twenty twenty four.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's wild. How fast time flies? Hell yeah?
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, you gotta fucking figure out, like, Okay,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: if I get this Grammy, where am I putting it?
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Am I putting the studio and putting on a mantel
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: putting it? Put it on the fucking TV stand?
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, I'm personal lean in it, but
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: don't pour lean in it. I'm joking.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't disrespect the Graham. Kanye used to piss
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: in the Grammys. No, yeah, didn't he put in He
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: put in the toilet, pissed on it.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Yes, I swear. That's crazy.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean when you're like I don't know how
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: many that motherfucker got, respectfully, but I'm sure he could
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: piss on a few, and I still have some ship.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: A lot of people don't even say, like The Weekend
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: doesn't even submit his music for the Grammys anymore.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, bro, once you's successful and neither this Ja Cole,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: once you's successful in your own right, like in your
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: own mind shit. Like you know, some of these dudes,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: they don't even want the validation no more. They don't care.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you have a good chance either Album
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: of the Year a rap Album of the Year.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Think about this in the streets. I'm already a Grammy artist.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: I'm already already got a Grammy in the streets, a
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: couple of them. So so you know what I'm saying,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: It ain't really too much of a difference. It depends
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: on what world you're living in, right.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: What kind of special guests we do. We have a
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: lot lying up for the thirteenth.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: At the Novo, whole city out.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: That's a big look man, to be doing the Novo.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: The Novo is a I feel like that's one of
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: those things you check off like that list. Yeah, like
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: firstus the Roxy, all right, then you do the Novo Palladium.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, that's exactly what I'm doing.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: I did the Roxy like three years ago. I only
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: had one show my whole career, one.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Of my one solo show.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've only had one my whole career. In six years.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: I only did one shows at the Roxy. Ye.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: So yeah, there's gonna be just I'm sure everyone in
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: their moms.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: So now it's gonna go down.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: A lot of people coming the thirty whole city out.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: Get tickets. Still tickets are still available.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, get some tickets and we're gonna be giving away
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: a couple of tickets. So just stay tapped in on
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: the Instagram ship and I'm gonna be doing some opportunities
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: out there for people to win some free tickets, like
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: for them and a couple of family members like that.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Mad Dog January thirtieth, January thirty. How many songs?
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Thirteen songs? No skips?
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: There is this your first album in what five years now?
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Golden Child was twenty twenty one.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: Nope. Here to Stay was like, ah, you're right, you're right,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: You're right here twenty three yeah maybe yeah.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Your Cactus Jack debut though, it's on.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: The floor, it's on the flow.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: Mad dog Man January thirtieth Wally appreciate you brother, Love
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: bro Wool