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- 0:00SPEAKER_00: Hi, this is Ed Gallagher and in this one I'm continuing talking about Christmas
- 0:05SPEAKER_00: and I'll be reading an essay called Biblical Authorization for Celebrating Christmas.
- 0:15SPEAKER_00: Okay, so we know that it's sinful, displeasing to God
- 0:20SPEAKER_00: to celebrate Christmas as a religious holiday
- 0:23SPEAKER_00: but we saw last time that by the turn of the 20th century
- 0:31SPEAKER_00: had come around to the by now traditional trappings of
- 0:36SPEAKER_00: the day feasting gift giving time with family and even christmas trees
- 0:43SPEAKER_00: and santa claus i say most christians had come around this notion not all in
- 0:52SPEAKER_00: the churches of christ discomfort with christmas or even outright rejection
- 0:59SPEAKER_00: continued to the midpoint of the 20th century or even later but
- 1:05SPEAKER_00: when i was growing up in the 1980s and 1990s i was completely unaware
- 1:12SPEAKER_00: that some people thought that christmas should not be celebrated at all not even as
- 1:18SPEAKER_00: a family holiday that view was and is still around but it's still pretty fringe
- 1:28SPEAKER_00: but where do some people get off actually talking about the birth of jesus
- 1:34SPEAKER_00: on christmas how could they do such an ungodly thing come to think
- 1:40SPEAKER_00: of it how do we know that observing christmas as a religious holiday is sinful
- 1:48SPEAKER_00: or ungodly
- 1:51SPEAKER_00: last time we encountered the argument that we've got to avoid anything
- 1:55SPEAKER_00: that makes us look like one of the denominations
- 1:59SPEAKER_00: and celebrating christmas is apparently what the denominations do then again
- 2:06SPEAKER_00: last time we also learned that it was protestant denominations like
- 2:10SPEAKER_00: the presbyterians who spearheaded the christian opposition to christmas
- 2:16SPEAKER_00: so it might be that refusing to celebrate christmas is an imitation of
- 2:21SPEAKER_00: the denominations hmm let's go back to the 1976 essay by john waddy published in
- 2:32SPEAKER_00: the firm foundation and i quoted from that essay
- 2:36SPEAKER_00: in the last post I'll do it again here here's a quote from John Waddy
- 2:42SPEAKER_00: but no New Testament writing instructs us to observe a holy day for Christ's birth
- 2:50SPEAKER_00: to so observe the day is to go beyond what is written according
- 2:57SPEAKER_00: to Christ such religious practices are vain worship for they are the precepts
- 3:02SPEAKER_00: of men Matthew 15 9
- 3:06SPEAKER_00: God gave his church only one special day, the first day of the week.
- 3:12SPEAKER_00: That's the end of the quote.
- 3:16SPEAKER_00: Wait a second.
- 3:17SPEAKER_00: Is that the reasoning?
- 3:19SPEAKER_00: Let's go over that again.
- 3:21SPEAKER_00: No New Testament writing instructs us to observe a holy day for Christ's birth.
- 3:32SPEAKER_00: Hmm, okay, what in the world does that matter?
- 3:40SPEAKER_00: Well, Wadi thinks that to observe this holy day in the absence
- 3:45SPEAKER_00: of New Testament instruction would entail going beyond what is written,
- 3:52SPEAKER_00: an allusion to 1 Corinthians 4, 6.
- 3:55SPEAKER_00: And he thinks Christ characterized such a departure from the written word as vain worship.
- 4:02SPEAKER_00: citing matthew 15 9 that's the same argument you'll find in other authors
- 4:10SPEAKER_00: the early protestants often opposed christmas because it couldn't be found in
- 4:15SPEAKER_00: the bible let me quote again
- 4:18SPEAKER_00: an essay from the Oxford Handbook of Christmas from the year 2020.
- 4:23SPEAKER_00: Quote, those opposed to Christmas in the 16th and 17th centuries objected
- 4:30SPEAKER_00: to any religious observance that was not explicitly commanded in the Bible and
- 4:36SPEAKER_00: which was seen as a vestige of popery or Catholicism.
- 4:44SPEAKER_00: And just to be clear about the argument, let me quote
- 4:48SPEAKER_00: one of the most authoritative voices in churches of christ in the second half of
- 4:52SPEAKER_00: the 20th century in the first volume of his questions and answers guy
- 4:58SPEAKER_00: in woods had this to say about christmas quote the observance of christmas as
- 5:03SPEAKER_00: a religious holiday did not originate in the apostolic age and is thus
- 5:10SPEAKER_00: without divine sanctioned
- 5:14SPEAKER_00: continuing the quote as a matter of fact it is not possible to determine
- 5:18SPEAKER_00: in what month or on what day the savior and i pause just to note that
- 5:26SPEAKER_00: the word savior in the questions and answers is spelled in the british fashion with
- 5:32SPEAKER_00: a u i just think that's weird anyway back to the quotation from woods um
- 5:40SPEAKER_00: there's no way to determine on what day the savior was born and in as much
- 5:46SPEAKER_00: as there is neither precept nor example
- 5:48SPEAKER_00: for its observance faithful christians do not keep it as
- 5:52SPEAKER_00: a religious festival
- 5:56SPEAKER_00: okay neither precept nor example for its observance
- 6:02SPEAKER_00: that sounds similar to what wadi had said honestly i can't make any sense out
- 6:07SPEAKER_00: of this
- 6:09SPEAKER_00: To go over it again,
- 6:10SPEAKER_00: the idea is that it would be vain worship to observe a holy day in honor
- 6:18SPEAKER_00: of Christ's birth because such a holy day is not mentioned in the New Testament.
- 6:26SPEAKER_00: I think part of my difficulty is this term holy day.
- 6:30SPEAKER_00: That's Wadi's term.
- 6:32SPEAKER_00: Woods used the term religious festival.
- 6:35SPEAKER_00: and i assume that in this context holy day
- 6:38SPEAKER_00: and religious festival are basically synonymous whatever wadi meant woods meant
- 6:43SPEAKER_00: the same thing with his term i'm not sure what these terms are supposed to mean
- 6:49SPEAKER_00: or what opponents of holy days think that they are opposing isn't holy day
- 6:58SPEAKER_00: and holiday like the same thing
- 7:02SPEAKER_00: it's just a day set aside to observe
- 7:04SPEAKER_00: a particular thing right i mean everyone would agree that it's okay for christians
- 7:10SPEAKER_00: to observe mother's day wouldn't they have you ever heard of a church preaching
- 7:15SPEAKER_00: against mother's day and i'm sorry i asked please don't answer that i don't want
- 7:20SPEAKER_00: to know about it
- 7:22SPEAKER_00: I don't remember Mother's Day being mentioned in the New Testament,
- 7:26SPEAKER_00: but it doesn't seem like Christians have usually thought about a special day
- 7:32SPEAKER_00: for mothers as going beyond what is written as vain worship.
- 7:39SPEAKER_00: In fact,
- 7:39SPEAKER_00: for my entire life,
- 7:40SPEAKER_00: every single time the second Sunday of May rolls around,
- 7:44SPEAKER_00: the sermon has revolved around mothers.
- 7:48SPEAKER_00: and the mothers in the audience are specially singled out for greetings
- 7:52SPEAKER_00: and warm wishes and maybe even given a flower or some other present oftentimes
- 7:59SPEAKER_00: the children's bible class that day focuses on mothers and the children make
- 8:04SPEAKER_00: a craft designed for their mothers in a similar way the churches i have been a part
- 8:10SPEAKER_00: of have observed father's day and veterans day and thanksgiving day
- 8:17SPEAKER_00: and the fourth of july and other special days is this going
- 8:24SPEAKER_00: beyond what is written is this vain worship these special days are certainly not
- 8:31SPEAKER_00: mentioned in the new testament but the excuse for observing mother's day
- 8:36SPEAKER_00: that i have heard and that i have made is that romans 13 7 tells us to honor those
- 8:43SPEAKER_00: who deserve honor and mothers
- 8:47SPEAKER_00: most mothers deserve honor it is not going
- 8:53SPEAKER_00: beyond what is written it is doing what is written now i've never heard anyone say
- 9:02SPEAKER_00: that mother's day is being observed as a holy day for mothers or as
- 9:07SPEAKER_00: a religious festival but i have heard people talk about
- 9:12SPEAKER_00: the holiday called mother's day
- 9:15SPEAKER_00: i'm not sure what the term holy day is supposed to communicate and i'm not sure
- 9:21SPEAKER_00: that people that oppose holy days do either
- 9:27SPEAKER_00: let's go back to the reasoning
- 9:28SPEAKER_00: for opposing the religious observance of christmas nope actually before we do
- 9:34SPEAKER_00: that let's think about the phrase religious observance do churches typically oppose
- 9:42SPEAKER_00: or embrace
- 9:44SPEAKER_00: the religious observance
- 9:46SPEAKER_00: of mother's day i don't know how you could get any more religious
- 9:52SPEAKER_00: than centering your worship service around the reason for the season in
- 9:56SPEAKER_00: the second week of may yes
- 9:59SPEAKER_00: of course most american churches observe mother's day religiously again it's
- 10:04SPEAKER_00: the same for father's day and thanksgiving day and even the fourth of july
- 10:11SPEAKER_00: Now let's go back to the reasoning for opposing the religious observance of Christmas.
- 10:17SPEAKER_00: As Wadi put it, no New Testament writing instructs us to observe a holy day for Christ's birth.
- 10:28SPEAKER_00: I have suggested that holy day is a term without clear meaning and is basically
- 10:34SPEAKER_00: in this discussion a red herring, a distraction.
- 10:37SPEAKER_00: Let's omit it.
- 10:39SPEAKER_00: no new testament writing instructs us to observe christ's birth or
- 10:46SPEAKER_00: as wood said there is neither precept nor example for its observance
- 10:54SPEAKER_00: as i see it the
- 10:56SPEAKER_00: that claim is the nub of the argument against the religious observance
- 11:01SPEAKER_00: of christmas we will have to consider whether the claim is true
- 11:06SPEAKER_00: does the new testament instruct us to observe christ's birth
- 11:14SPEAKER_00: does god want us
- 11:17SPEAKER_00: to celebrate the birth of jesus celebrate it in our churches and
- 11:23SPEAKER_00: in our homes does god want us to religiously observe
- 11:31SPEAKER_00: does woods correctly evaluate the new testament when he says
- 11:35SPEAKER_00: that there is neither precept nor example for the observance
- 11:42SPEAKER_00: the religious observance of the birth of jesus or are there examples in
- 11:49SPEAKER_00: the new testament does the new testament instruct christians
- 11:54SPEAKER_00: to celebrate jesus's birth
- 11:59SPEAKER_00: yes
- 12:03SPEAKER_00: yes
- 12:07SPEAKER_00: yes
- 12:10SPEAKER_00: it is the most significant event in the history of the universe
- 12:20SPEAKER_00: and Christians should celebrate it celebrate it religiously
- 12:31SPEAKER_00: as a holy day,
- 12:33SPEAKER_00: whatever that means,
- 12:34SPEAKER_00: the New Testament instructs Christians to celebrate the birth of Jesus.
- 12:44SPEAKER_00: Let's probe why the birth of Jesus is so important.
- 12:48SPEAKER_00: And here I want to go back to what I said last time,
- 12:51SPEAKER_00: that celebrating the birth of Jesus is not really the right way of saying it.
- 12:58SPEAKER_00: to my mind the phrase birth of Jesus gives the wrong impression
- 13:03SPEAKER_00: about what we're doing if a friend has a baby and we go to the hospital to celebrate
- 13:10SPEAKER_00: with her the birth of her child we will be holding the child
- 13:15SPEAKER_00: and making goo goo noises at the child or at least my wife Jody will do
- 13:21SPEAKER_00: that I myself will simply observe the infant from a safe distance
- 13:26SPEAKER_00: but i'm not a normal person most people will talk about how cute
- 13:30SPEAKER_00: the baby is how much fun infants are
- 13:34SPEAKER_00: the little noises they make their silly little outfits this has little
- 13:41SPEAKER_00: correspondence to what we celebrate about jesus at christmas it's not so much
- 13:46SPEAKER_00: the birth of a baby but the incarnation of god that we are celebrating
- 13:54SPEAKER_00: incarnation comes from a latin term that means something like enfleshment think
- 14:02SPEAKER_00: about john 1 and the word became flesh this is the word
- 14:09SPEAKER_00: that john has already told us was with god in the beginning and was itself
- 14:15SPEAKER_00: or himself god this word this god became flesh
- 14:23SPEAKER_00: the human being jesus of nazareth was god there is much to discuss here
- 14:31SPEAKER_00: and much mystery there were many early christian debates lasting centuries
- 14:38SPEAKER_00: or actually still ongoing about how exactly to understand the identity of jesus
- 14:45SPEAKER_00: One influential statement from the Council of Nicaea in the year 325 said that
- 14:51SPEAKER_00: the Lord Jesus Christ is of one essence with the Father, very God of very God.
- 15:01SPEAKER_00: While this language is not found in Scripture,
- 15:03SPEAKER_00: the concept is, as we have just seen from the Gospel of John.
- 15:10SPEAKER_00: Other stories depict divine beings
- 15:14SPEAKER_00: taking on flesh but not like this Zeus sometimes became human or some other creature
- 15:25SPEAKER_00: of flesh usually in order to get to know a young maiden better
- 15:31SPEAKER_00: if you know what I mean but Zeus did not stay in that form for long certainly not
- 15:38SPEAKER_00: for a lifetime Zeus did not spend any length of time as a baby
- 15:44SPEAKER_00: getting his diaper changed or as a toddler or adolescent or teenager zeus did not as
- 15:52SPEAKER_00: a human being grow in wisdom and stature and in favor with god and men as jesus did
- 16:03SPEAKER_00: in the gospels we encounter the high god creator of heaven and earth through
- 16:08SPEAKER_00: whom all things were made
- 16:11SPEAKER_00: who became a real human being experiencing everything that human beings experience
- 16:18SPEAKER_00: from birth to death.
- 16:22SPEAKER_00: That's incarnation.
- 16:26SPEAKER_00: Early Christians celebrated the incarnation of God.
- 16:32SPEAKER_00: i mean come on you don't think christians in the first century read the story of
- 16:36SPEAKER_00: the annunciation in luke 1 and praised god that the holy spirit overshadowed
- 16:43SPEAKER_00: a young woman to form within a virgin the holy son
- 16:48SPEAKER_00: of god don't you think early christians read about the praise of the angels before
- 16:54SPEAKER_00: the shepherds in luke 2 and joined in the celebration
- 16:59SPEAKER_00: neither precept nor example give me a break check out this passage
- 17:08SPEAKER_00: let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus who being in the form
- 17:15SPEAKER_00: of God thought it not robbery to be equal with God but made himself of no reputation
- 17:22SPEAKER_00: and took upon him the form of a servant and was made in the likeness of men
- 17:31SPEAKER_00: and being found in fashion as a man he humbled himself
- 17:36SPEAKER_00: and became obedient unto death even the death of the cross
- 17:43SPEAKER_00: Paul is talking about
- 17:45SPEAKER_00: the incarnation one who existed in the form of God and emptied himself to take on
- 17:52SPEAKER_00: the likeness of people many scholars have thought that this section
- 17:58SPEAKER_00: of Philippians 2 represents an early Christian hymn if that's the case
- 18:05SPEAKER_00: then we have first century christians praising god in song for the incarnation
- 18:13SPEAKER_00: the birth of jesus even if this passage wasn't originally
- 18:17SPEAKER_00: a song it is certainly our scripture now and we should sing it we should praise god
- 18:25SPEAKER_00: for the incarnation
- 18:28SPEAKER_00: we might also check out colossians 1 where paul says in him all the fullness
- 18:34SPEAKER_00: of god was pleased to dwell
- 18:39SPEAKER_00: i said earlier that the incarnation the the birth
- 18:43SPEAKER_00: of jesus is the most significant event in the history of
- 18:49SPEAKER_00: the universe more significant than the crucifixion of jesus yes
- 18:58SPEAKER_00: more significant than the resurrection of Jesus?
- 19:01SPEAKER_00: Yes.
- 19:04SPEAKER_00: Many other people died on Roman crosses and their deaths had no bearing on me at all.
- 19:13SPEAKER_00: Some other people rose from the dead,
- 19:17SPEAKER_00: even in the Gospels, but their resurrections were not for my justification.
- 19:24SPEAKER_00: What made the death and resurrection of Jesus different?
- 19:27SPEAKER_00: from those of other people.
- 19:31SPEAKER_00: The incarnation, that's what.
- 19:34SPEAKER_00: His death was the death of the incarnate Son of God.
- 19:41SPEAKER_00: His resurrection was the resurrection of the Lord of life who could not be held
- 19:48SPEAKER_00: in death's power.
- 19:50SPEAKER_00: The crucifixion and resurrection are meaningless without the incarnation.
- 19:57SPEAKER_00: we should celebrate the birth of jesus
- 20:04SPEAKER_00: let me deal with a few stray points here at
- 20:08SPEAKER_00: the end first i am fully confident that guy in woods and john waddy
- 20:14SPEAKER_00: and whoever else celebrated the birth of jesus maybe they didn't put it
- 20:19SPEAKER_00: in those terms they certainly said they didn't celebrate christmas religiously
- 20:26SPEAKER_00: But they must have celebrated the Incarnation Why?
- 20:32SPEAKER_00: Because Woods was a Christian and Christians celebrate Jesus His birth,
- 20:38SPEAKER_00: his life,
- 20:38SPEAKER_00: his death,
- 20:39SPEAKER_00: his resurrection,
- 20:40SPEAKER_00: his ascension,
- 20:42SPEAKER_00: his present intercession on our behalf It is inconceivable to me
- 20:46SPEAKER_00: that Woods did not celebrate these aspects of Jesus' life Second,
- 20:53SPEAKER_00: is December 25th the actual birthday of Jesus?
- 20:57SPEAKER_00: no of course not or maybe it was i don't know against this date you've got
- 21:03SPEAKER_00: that argument about the shepherds that i mentioned last time
- 21:06SPEAKER_00: but i'm not sure how solid of an argument that is i don't know at any rate
- 21:11SPEAKER_00: the date was not chosen because anyone had any actual knowledge of jesus's birthday
- 21:18SPEAKER_00: and it probably wasn't chosen because of the saturnalia festival
- 21:22SPEAKER_00: the most common theory as to why this date was chosen is the
- 21:27SPEAKER_00: it's called the calculation hypothesis and i'll let you read about it on wikipedia
- 21:34SPEAKER_00: at any rate it's just a day set aside for
- 21:36SPEAKER_00: an observance just like every other holiday third what
- 21:41SPEAKER_00: about those pagan symbols
- 21:47SPEAKER_00: sometimes christians say we shouldn't like have a tree
- 21:50SPEAKER_00: in our house for instance because it's a
- 21:55SPEAKER_00: Symbols mean different things to different people.
- 21:58SPEAKER_00: An image of the sun,
- 22:00SPEAKER_00: the sun in the sky,
- 22:02SPEAKER_00: the ball of fire in the sky,
- 22:04SPEAKER_00: that an image of the sun might mean God to the ancient inhabitants of Egypt
- 22:11SPEAKER_00: who worshipped the sun.
- 22:13SPEAKER_00: but it might represent jesus
- 22:15SPEAKER_00: to ancient christians check out this word verse this is malachi 4 2 but unto you
- 22:20SPEAKER_00: that fear my name shall the son of righteousness arise with healing in his wings
- 22:26SPEAKER_00: and ye shall go forth and grow up as calves of the stall a lot
- 22:34SPEAKER_00: of early christians took that verse as a reference to jesus the son of righteousness
- 22:39SPEAKER_00: the sun of righteousness
- 22:43SPEAKER_00: just because it's a pagan symbol in egypt doesn't mean it needs to be a pagan symbol
- 22:48SPEAKER_00: for us the meaning of symbols is not established forever without the possibility
- 22:55SPEAKER_00: of evolving just because some people may have worshipped a tree
- 23:00SPEAKER_00: at one time does not mean that i should chop down every tree i see as
- 23:06SPEAKER_00: if they're all idols
- 23:09SPEAKER_00: i don't have to regard them all as objects of pagan worship especially
- 23:14SPEAKER_00: when i don't know anyone who worships trees or uses trees prominently
- 23:19SPEAKER_00: in their worship i'll admit this may have been a more potent argument
- 23:25SPEAKER_00: in early medieval germany so the christmas tree is
- 23:31SPEAKER_00: a christianized pagan symbol isn't that a good thing
- 23:38SPEAKER_00: Doesn't God want us to take pagan symbols and transform them into symbols of our faith?
- 23:47SPEAKER_00: Isn't that what has happened to the cross?
- 23:53SPEAKER_00: Here's a quotation from the historian Tom Holland's book, Dominion.
- 24:01SPEAKER_00: Quote, whether in Korea or in Tierra del Fuego,
- 24:06SPEAKER_00: in Alaska or in New Zealand,
- 24:09SPEAKER_00: the cross on which Jesus had been tortured to death came to serve as
- 24:16SPEAKER_00: the most globally recognized symbol of a God that there has ever been.
- 24:22SPEAKER_00: Hmm.
- 24:24SPEAKER_00: Is that a bad thing?
- 24:27SPEAKER_00: Anyway, in conclusion,
- 24:29SPEAKER_00: It is a good thing for the people of God to join with the angelic chorus
- 24:35SPEAKER_00: and celebrate the incarnation of our God.
- 24:38SPEAKER_00: That is the birth of Jesus.
- 24:41SPEAKER_00: It is the most important event in the history of the universe.
- 24:47SPEAKER_00: We should celebrate it at any time, even on a particular day set aside for that express purpose.