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- 0:00Laced up. Let's go. It's time for Benzer with the boys.
- 0:12Yo, welcome back to Banner with the Boys gridiron updates.
- 0:16I'm your host Smelty across the table from me.
- 0:19We got our other host Rob. Rob Vikings.
- 0:22Skol Vikes. Skol Vikes.
- 0:24Rob, what's going on?
- 0:25Not much.
- 0:26Just, you know, first week of football is done.
- 0:28And it was an exciting week.
- 0:31Watched a lot of football.
- 0:32So hopefully the wife is still cool with that.
- 0:35But does she know you watch?
- 0:36Oh, yeah. I think she knew that going in.
- 0:38Then this is right up my alley.
- 0:40Yeah, yeah. It's part of the pre-numps.
- 0:43Oh snap. I got that.
- 0:44I'm set to go.
- 0:46Returning with us again this week, Jake.
- 0:49Hey.
- 0:49I know it was a rough week for your not Falcons.
- 0:53Raven. Yeah.
- 0:55Yeah, rough, but exciting game to watch.
- 0:58Very exciting game. From start to finish.
- 0:59Yeah.
- 1:01Yeah, we'll definitely talk more about that.
- 1:03But I'm not too sad or disappointed with it.
- 1:06Still looking forward to the season.
- 1:08Yep, absolutely.
- 1:09Not selling the farm.
- 1:10Nope, definitely not. Not selling the farm.
- 1:12If you paid attention to any of the other AFC North teams,
- 1:16they all looked not good.
- 1:19So.
- 1:21Still feeling calm. Yep, for sure.
- 1:23All right. Fair enough. Fair enough.
- 1:24And right next to me, joining us this week,
- 1:26first time on Banner with the Boys, please welcome Matt.
- 1:30Matt.
- 1:31Fire up.
- 1:32Fire up. That'll be his thing.
- 1:33If you see that, just know he's fired up.
- 1:35That a boy.
- 1:36I'm fired up.
- 1:37Matt, just give us your brief, I guess, your football experience.
- 1:41When did you start watching it, getting involved in it,
- 1:43playing it, whatever it may be?
- 1:45Yeah, I mean, I played high school football.
- 1:48That was kind of where I was at.
- 1:50And then I ended up, I started coaching when I was 21, 33 now.
- 1:53So I'm on year 13 of my high school football season.
- 1:56I got the DC job over at Bloomington Kennedy.
- 2:00We're one on one now, but I mean, we're still going.
- 2:03And then, you know, we coach together.
- 2:05So yes, we do. Yes, we do.
- 2:07That's why we had to get him on the pot.
- 2:09You know, it's football. And then at all levels.
- 2:11At all levels, I mean, minus like youth, but I mean, NFL wise,
- 2:15I'm watching every game and my wife watches with me.
- 2:18She actually beat me in fantasy last year.
- 2:19Oh, wow.
- 2:22We might have to add to that.
- 2:25She's good, man, and loves Josh Allen.
- 2:27So, my little boy. That's it. He's my guy.
- 2:30Yeah. So we sit down every Sunday.
- 2:32We sit down from when we were up at 11.
- 2:35We're checking our lineups together.
- 2:36Noon. You guys get up for like the London games and stuff, too?
- 2:39It depends.
- 2:41The day we sleep.
- 2:42It's going to be the London game this year.
- 2:43So fair enough. So you will have.
- 2:45You'll have. We're up at eight on Sunday.
- 2:46There we go. Viking's die hard. Vikings for life.
- 2:48That's cool, buddy. Yeah. Yeah.
- 2:50I like it. I like it. I like it.
- 2:52You're in the pit of misery with us just living our entire life with mediocrity.
- 2:57I mean, you know, when you go through 98 and you go through 2009.
- 3:02Yeah, we don't talk about it.
- 3:03Yeah, we don't talk about it.
- 3:06We don't talk about those ones.
- 3:07Coulda, woulda, shoulda, something version like that.
- 3:10And then the following season, always this is the year.
- 3:13This is it. This is the one that the Vikes are going to finally go over that hump.
- 3:18Well, we're glad to have you on the show.
- 3:19Appreciate you. Thanks, guys.
- 3:21You will also be here next week with us, which is excellent.
- 3:24So let's let's just head right into our five game recap.
- 3:33And right back at it, let's just start with the Vikes right away.
- 3:37I mean, there's three Vikes fans up here.
- 3:40Sorry, Jake. A little biased.
- 3:41He's half Packer fan.
- 3:43Don't get how that works. Don't ask. I don't know.
- 3:47But Wisconsin math.
- 3:49We have Wisconsin math. Yeah, we'll go with that.
- 3:52Vikes getting the dub 28 six in New York on that crappy field.
- 3:59But they got it done. They did.
- 4:01They got it done.
- 4:02Did Sam Donald look like so Matt actually has told me off air
- 4:06and we mentioned him last week that Sam Donald's top ten quarterback this year.
- 4:10We've both mentioned that he's going to be top 15 quarterback this year.
- 4:13Yeah. Is that what we got out of him on Sunday?
- 4:16We did. He made all the throws.
- 4:18He started off the game 12 for 12.
- 4:19You can't ask for a better start than that.
- 4:22And the Giants, two defensive ends, both of our tackles absolutely dominate him.
- 4:28This thing zero sacks by any of them, which is huge.
- 4:32Running game by Aaron Jones started off really nicely.
- 4:35You know, Jefferson was more of a decoy a lot on a lot of plays.
- 4:40And the defense stepped up and made plays when they needed to.
- 4:43Yeah. And they couldn't they couldn't cover Addison.
- 4:45You know, if Jefferson's covered, Addison seemed like he was in man coverage every time
- 4:49or at least beating the zone.
- 4:52Like, I don't know. He was just always open.
- 4:54He was always open towards the end of the game.
- 4:55Yeah. They played well.
- 4:57So what do you think, Matt, with first game in?
- 4:59Oh, man. So I mean, so as I break it down,
- 5:02I wear a block of wood around my like chain during the Vikings games
- 5:05because there's a lot of biased Vikings fans that I watch with.
- 5:08So I'm always knocking on wood.
- 5:09No, that's hilarious.
- 5:11You never know where you're at when you're watching the game.
- 5:13We're going to get a picture of that for next week.
- 5:15Coming down to it, I mean, I think the Vikings played really well.
- 5:19Love Sam Darnold. March 13th was the day that I said Sam Darnold
- 5:22would be a top 10 quarterback, hands down.
- 5:24I think McCaffrey wasn't going to start, but going 12 for 12,
- 5:27it just kind of made me feel pretty good.
- 5:29When you go down to it, I think what was scary for the Vikings
- 5:33and I think what we need to really work on is this Dexter Lawrence
- 5:35really tore us up on the end.
- 5:36Yes. Tore us up.
- 5:38And when it comes down, I think Add Ingram played really well.
- 5:41I think Garrett was OK.
- 5:43But I mean, I don't even know who our left guard is right now
- 5:46because Reisner is out.
- 5:47I can't remember.
- 5:49I know, but he scored like top five PFF, if you believe in PFF.
- 5:53It's not Brandle, is it?
- 5:54Yeah, it is. It is Brandle.
- 5:56Yeah, he was a top five on PFF if you're into that.
- 5:59I mean, he's viable.
- 6:01I think truly the interior wise, I think that's going to concern me.
- 6:04But I mean, with Aaron Jones being able to be a running thread,
- 6:07a passing thread, even Ty Chandler came out and actually showed out a little bit.
- 6:11And even with Hockenson out, you got Josh Oliver actually made some plays for us.
- 6:17He made one. The other tight end, I thought I'd give him a downgrade.
- 6:20But Johnny Munt?
- 6:21Yeah.
- 6:22Johnny Munt.
- 6:23I mean, what Kevin O'Connell said, Johnny Munt is going to be the,
- 6:25he's the best third tight end, third string tight end in the game.
- 6:28I mean, you got to have some sort of pride about some, right?
- 6:30Yeah.
- 6:31I mean.
- 6:32Geez Louise.
- 6:33I do want to know what you thought of the defense.
- 6:35The defense played outstanding.
- 6:37Yeah, buddy.
- 6:38They've got a big tough game coming into this week, which we'll touch on later.
- 6:42But they're going to have to come out strong.
- 6:45Do you think they're going to be able to do that this week?
- 6:47I mean, going up, I mean, it's hard to tell because obviously the Giants defense isn't
- 6:51that great, minus Dexter Lawrence.
- 6:52But then when you go, you got Gink coming in from Miami,
- 6:55was one of Brian Flores' guys, and he got a pick six.
- 6:58Yeah.
- 6:59That was awesome.
- 7:00I mean, were you not fired up for that?
- 7:02Yeah, I think they knew that play was coming.
- 7:04Yeah, he read that book.
- 7:05They for sure did.
- 7:06They had to have and like defensively, I mean, I think Ivan Pace played pretty well.
- 7:11I mean, with the corners that we have, there should be no exception to being, I don't know,
- 7:17Gilmore, you got Shaq Griffin, you got.
- 7:21Griffin was okay.
- 7:23He was okay.
- 7:24He can improve, but it wasn't bad.
- 7:26It wasn't bad.
- 7:27Personally, I don't feel like they got tested at all.
- 7:29No, they didn't.
- 7:30And that's what I mean.
- 7:31We can't judge them.
- 7:32So that's a tough grade.
- 7:33It's tough.
- 7:34You know?
- 7:35Yeah.
- 7:36Neighbors got 66 yards.
- 7:37That was about it.
- 7:38Other than that, you got neighbors and then you got Robinson who had 44.
- 7:43So.
- 7:44A ton of targets.
- 7:45Yeah.
- 7:46Fancy.
- 7:47Fancy people.
- 7:48Fantasy.
- 7:49And I mean, they did hold them under 100 yards rushing too.
- 7:51Something to be said about that in the NFL, but.
- 7:53Okay, definitely Singletary.
- 7:55Yeah.
- 7:56Well, when you're playing from behind, of course, you're going to be passing it more
- 7:58than you're throwing.
- 7:59That's true.
- 8:00For sure.
- 8:01And they were playing from behind early.
- 8:02Most of the game.
- 8:03Yeah, yeah.
- 8:04So, you know, going into defensively, going against the 49ers, we're going to have some
- 8:08work to do.
- 8:09But I think that there's something we can play off of, off what we got.
- 8:13So, I mean, we'll talk about that later, but.
- 8:16Harrison Phillips got extended.
- 8:17Yes, he did.
- 8:18Two-year day.
- 8:19That was today.
- 8:20That was this morning.
- 8:21That's interesting.
- 8:22I didn't expect that to happen, actually.
- 8:23We got nobody on the inside.
- 8:24I know.
- 8:25There's literally nobody else.
- 8:26Jonathan Bullard?
- 8:27No.
- 8:28I mean, he was the number two.
- 8:29You played the three-tech.
- 8:30Well, then Tillery.
- 8:31Didn't Tillery get the number two?
- 8:32Tillery probably got some clock, too.
- 8:33And then there's that, I thought there was a rookie in there.
- 8:37Levi Rodriguez.
- 8:38That's not like him.
- 8:39Levi.
- 8:40Seventh round pick out of Texas A&M Commerce, I believe.
- 8:45And man, I watched a video on him and there was a hot take that said he's got that motor
- 8:49like John Randall.
- 8:53And there's some clips, man.
- 8:54I mean, you did see some of it in, I'll tell you, I saw some of the motor in preseason,
- 8:58especially against the Eagles game in preseason.
- 9:00I did see some of that.
- 9:01That's interesting.
- 9:02I don't know if I can go ahead and compare him to John Randall.
- 9:04Yeah.
- 9:05I mean, I don't think I want to get there yet.
- 9:08But I think with the seventh round pick coming out of a D2 school, I mean, John Randall was
- 9:13undrafted.
- 9:14Yes, he was.
- 9:15So, I mean, there's some play on that.
- 9:17So we got some D-Tac will help and we'll see what happens.
- 9:20Fair enough.
- 9:21Real quick before we move on to our next game, the Giants.
- 9:26How sorry are they?
- 9:27I mean, are we...
- 9:28So sorry.
- 9:29Are they full rebuild at this point?
- 9:31Does Daniel Jones need to go?
- 9:33The fans are booing him, leaving the stadium.
- 9:35They're booing him in the game too and the whole team at that.
- 9:38And Dables all PO'd, you know, disappointed in week one.
- 9:44What do the Giants have to do to kind of...
- 9:46Because that was just straight up a bad show.
- 9:47All across the board.
- 9:48What do you think, Jacob?
- 9:49Fight in there, Jacob.
- 9:50He's all about it.
- 9:51Against a Vikings team that should be middle of the road.
- 9:53Realistically, on paper, yes, we think they're going to the bowl.
- 9:55They need to give up a ton of picks and get Saquon Barkley back because they miss him so
- 10:00much.
- 10:01And I'm sure that they regret the decision of sticking with Daniel Jones and letting
- 10:04Saquon walk.
- 10:05Big mistake and I think they're going to regret it.
- 10:09But, yeah, they're still rebuilding.
- 10:13And they're going to have to hope and pray that maybe Daniel Jones figures it out because
- 10:18the next couple of years as far as quarterback pool does not look promising for them.
- 10:22That is true.
- 10:23Well, let me put this, though.
- 10:25So say they don't take neighbors and who's their other options?
- 10:28Pinnix or JJ?
- 10:30Do you think Pinnix has to be the one because it was JJ going to play much better than you
- 10:36would expect him to?
- 10:38I think if the Giants were to draft a JJ McCarthy, no way they're starting him over Daniel Jones.
- 10:42Exactly.
- 10:43So then who's your one receiver?
- 10:45Yeah, they did the right thing.
- 10:48I felt like they had to pick.
- 10:49It could be after this season that we see a change, but I don't see them making a change
- 10:53during this year.
- 10:54The college trend is that the wide receiver pool of college athletes is just so much greater
- 10:59than it has ever been.
- 11:03So you can you could probably just hang your hat on.
- 11:06Well, I got a good bet if we're going to suck and I'm going to get an early pick, there's
- 11:10still going to be a super quality wide receiver out there.
- 11:13True.
- 11:14So you would go JJ, then lose all your games and then get that Terry McClain in from Arizona
- 11:20is a top of the top of the top, you know, next year draft picks and go that direction
- 11:26instead of going receiver first, then quarterback.
- 11:29Yeah, because you have to you have to keep swinging a quarterback.
- 11:33I mean, it's the most important position they get picked and I agree with you.
- 11:39I agree with you, but I think they were definitely bought into Daniel Jones heading into this
- 11:42season.
- 11:43I think they were sold on Daniel Jones.
- 11:44They had to though.
- 11:45You know what?
- 11:46No, he's right.
- 11:47The contract that they gave him two years ago.
- 11:49And like you said, picking between him or Barkley, right?
- 11:51Essentially.
- 11:52And they went with Daniel Jones.
- 11:53Well, now we got to stick to our guns.
- 11:54He's our guy.
- 11:55You know what I mean?
- 11:56They prematurely sent him with a big old contract, right?
- 11:59100%.
- 12:00But in the same aspect, you look at the trend with running backs, right?
- 12:02We're going to about 29, 30 years old and you're teetering down.
- 12:06Yeah.
- 12:07So I mean, did I mean, Barkley coming off what a couple injuries?
- 12:10Right.
- 12:11I mean, so he didn't have the last injury history.
- 12:16And I don't hate Daniel Jones.
- 12:17I mean, he tore us up.
- 12:19Sorry, man.
- 12:20One game.
- 12:21I know.
- 12:22Yeah.
- 12:23He didn't have time to throw the ball.
- 12:24That was the anomaly.
- 12:25So I mean, do you put your money in a quarterback that's viable?
- 12:28Right.
- 12:29I mean, do you my true option is think next year for the Giants, I think Dable's got to
- 12:33go.
- 12:34Yeah, I agree with that.
- 12:35Yeah, I think he's on a hot seat.
- 12:36He's on a hot seat.
- 12:37You give Daniel Jones another shot.
- 12:38He's got that wide receiver in Malik neighbors.
- 12:41You know, I think the running backs we got to play with a little bit for them.
- 12:44But I mean, they're in the NFC so they can pound sand.
- 12:48And their defense was supposed to be better with, you know, Brian, that Brian Burns trade,
- 12:52you know, and then tipped on the other side.
- 12:55You think you have a top two top 20 D.N.'s in the league and you did face arguably the
- 13:01top three tackle combination in the league.
- 13:04That is true.
- 13:05You know, so we shut them down.
- 13:07Yeah.
- 13:08All right.
- 13:09All right.
- 13:10We got to keep things rolling here.
- 13:11Let's head right into the Packers at Philadelphia.
- 13:13But not really.
- 13:14Not really.
- 13:15They were in where Brazil, Brazil, Brazil on that slippery field, which ended up being
- 13:19a thing.
- 13:20Yeah.
- 13:21And I don't remember who it was.
- 13:22I think it was, uh, not Kelsey, not RG3.
- 13:26Somebody came out and said that it's because, you know, they maintain the field and get
- 13:30it prepared for a soccer game.
- 13:32Correct.
- 13:33Yeah.
- 13:34You know, which is way different than guys slamming each other on the ground, sliding
- 13:36across the ground for 60 minutes.
- 13:38You know what I mean?
- 13:39So definitely a factor.
- 13:41Were you guys able to catch catch that game?
- 13:44Yeah.
- 13:45I mean, because it was on Friday night.
- 13:46It was on Peacock.
- 13:47So I don't know that I think I was looking at the shares.
- 13:49It was like 14 million, 17 million.
- 13:52So it was a little lower than the league average for viewership.
- 13:57You know, since the subscription option.
- 13:59Um, but yeah, it was a good up and down game.
- 14:01I think I predicted as a meeting the thirties, whoever the winner was going to be.
- 14:05Yeah.
- 14:06You said, yeah, you did.
- 14:07And it was pretty.
- 14:08So you're wrong, but you're close.
- 14:09Close.
- 14:10Close.
- 14:11Closely right too.
- 14:12So we'll go that direction.
- 14:13Right.
- 14:14Closely right.
- 14:15Hang grenade that.
- 14:17But yeah, it was, uh, it was an up and down game.
- 14:19Barkley had an awesome game.
- 14:21Um, AJ Brown had a really nice long one, kind of shook off one of the better cornerbacks
- 14:27in the league and then turned around, uh, green Bay and love looked real nice all game
- 14:34long.
- 14:35Love did look great.
- 14:36Great.
- 14:37And the receiving core looked great.
- 14:38And I'm not talking about Christian Watson again, like I've told you, I'm, I'm out on
- 14:41Christian Watson and that's why Jayden Reed and Romeo Dobbs, Dobbs led, led the, uh, receiving
- 14:46for them.
- 14:47They did.
- 14:48I'm just out on them.
- 14:49Uh, Josh Jacobs didn't look bad in his Packer debut either.
- 14:53Uh, I wish I would have gave him the ball a little bit more, not as a Packer fan, but
- 14:57as a football fan, I think he needs to hit that 20 carry mark no matter what.
- 15:00Yeah.
- 15:01Um, I think that was my take on it too.
- 15:03Like he's, that's why I'm down on him this year.
- 15:05Cause I just don't think they're going to give him the ball enough to get in that, that
- 15:08mold.
- 15:09Why do you think that is?
- 15:10Can you not?
- 15:11They're a shotgun happy throwing team is they're just not at the ground and pound.
- 15:15And I like just kind of the same aspect we're talking.
- 15:18I was thinking about with Derek Henry, you know, in that pistol formation where AP really
- 15:22liked out of, uh, like I formation or under center.
- 15:26So he gets that five yard running start.
- 15:28And that's where I think Jacob's that's another, he's, I don't think he's that great out of
- 15:33that, that, you know, shotgun form wrong.
- 15:36Oh man.
- 15:37What am I off?
- 15:38It's a scheme for him.
- 15:39Sure.
- 15:40So, and I just don't think he's gonna get the ball enough to, you know, be that in the,
- 15:46maybe later on if they're up games and stuff, they start pounding the ball.
- 15:49That's where he's gonna be effective.
- 15:50But I think overall, it's going to be 60 to 80 a week.
- 15:54You don't have your outliers here.
- 15:56There's like maybe like three or 400 games or something like that.
- 15:59I mean, why, why did Aaron Jones leave the backers?
- 16:01Right.
- 16:02I mean, did he get the carries that he wanted?
- 16:03He shined when he did.
- 16:04They did.
- 16:05But you know, you look at Josh Jacobs who came from the Raiders where they were just
- 16:09trying to beat him into the ground.
- 16:11Yeah.
- 16:12I mean, they didn't have, I mean, they didn't have a viable Austin offense.
- 16:16They had a lot of players that at that point.
- 16:17But then, you know, Josh Jacobs, maybe he's like, am I going to get a little bit of a
- 16:20break?
- 16:21Am I not, am I not running those 20, 25 carries a game?
- 16:26You know, for a guy, I mean, the stats here was like 16 for 84 or 5.2 yards average.
- 16:31I mean, feed him the rock.
- 16:32Yeah.
- 16:33Yeah, that's not horrible.
- 16:34You're averaging over five yards at a rush in the NFL.
- 16:38That ain't bad.
- 16:39I always tell, I always tell my football kids, you want to get 3.3.
- 16:41That's what you want.
- 16:42Because by the time we get to fourth down, it's like fourth and point one.
- 16:45Yeah.
- 16:46You know, so I mean.
- 16:47Push, push.
- 16:48You're in.
- 16:49There you go.
- 16:50But you know, you figure, you figure Jordan loves out for what?
- 16:51Four weeks?
- 16:52He's, it's tough.
- 16:54It's tough.
- 16:55They're not saying what grade of MCL sprain he has right now.
- 16:57Three is bad.
- 16:58One is, so he's not ruled out for week two.
- 17:02So then you look at, you look at Josh Jacobs carries going up.
- 17:05And I think that's going to benefit.
- 17:06For sure.
- 17:07With the leak, you know, coming in for him.
- 17:09But I mean.
- 17:10Man, he looked horrible.
- 17:11That is one play.
- 17:12That is one play that you got.
- 17:13But you think you think Josh Jacobs is going to up his carries at least by five or more.
- 17:18For sure.
- 17:19He's going to get some more volume.
- 17:20And then, I mean, Jayden Reed just keep feeding him the rock.
- 17:23No doubt.
- 17:24So I get him on the rock.
- 17:26And that might be an issue.
- 17:27They'll probably have to design like wide receiver screens for him and around.
- 17:32There you go.
- 17:33Yeah.
- 17:34Just get a lot of quicker.
- 17:35Fast pace.
- 17:36Yeah.
- 17:37Because he did start three games in Tennessee.
- 17:38Yeah.
- 17:39You know, and Mel Kuiper and his draft year.
- 17:43Said he was the best quarterback in the draft.
- 17:45Yeah.
- 17:46Who?
- 17:47Malik Willis.
- 17:48Oh.
- 17:49Over Kenny Pickens and who was the other guy?
- 17:52Well, that.
- 17:53Desmond was around.
- 17:54Yeah.
- 17:55OK.
- 17:56What is he doing now?
- 17:58The cream of the crop.
- 17:59He got caught too.
- 18:00He got caught too.
- 18:01Looking at the other side.
- 18:03As far as teams, not the other side of the ball.
- 18:06Jalen Hurts struggled a little bit.
- 18:09He struggled a little bit.
- 18:13Do they need to?
- 18:14I mean, he did still carry it for 13 yards.
- 18:16I was like, do they need to design more runs for him?
- 18:18But 13 is plenty for a quarterback, in my opinion.
- 18:20They got to get him going a little bit.
- 18:23Those two picks, you can't have them.
- 18:25He didn't throw a pick all season or maybe one.
- 18:28And he had two in week one going into this season.
- 18:31But is that part of, and for both teams, obviously, this would be a thing.
- 18:34But as part of that, like the travel, is that a different focus?
- 18:38You know?
- 18:39Sure.
- 18:40I can't imagine the mental focus you need to be in to actually play in the NFL.
- 18:43You know what I mean?
- 18:45Does the travel affect them?
- 18:47I think it always does, truly.
- 18:49I would think so.
- 18:50They said it was, what was it?
- 18:51It was like 10 and a half hours of travel or something.
- 18:55Which is probably more than their normal.
- 18:57For Joe Schmoes like us, we would have been ready to play.
- 19:01It was like six hours ahead.
- 19:02I was trying to look at the time zone difference too.
- 19:05So it's like six hours ahead of us here in the central time zone.
- 19:12It's more of what I saw from Jalen Hurts last year.
- 19:14And again, I'm in the belief that he played injured last year, like truly.
- 19:18Because since week two, week three, whatever it was, he just seemed like he didn't move
- 19:23as natural as he did before.
- 19:26And I don't know.
- 19:28I hope he's just knocking rust off.
- 19:29That's what people are saying about a couple other quarterbacks we'll talk about later.
- 19:33But I don't know.
- 19:34I think I need a little bit more from Jalen Hurts for the Eagles this season.
- 19:39To be competitive or to maybe even beat out Dallas.
- 19:44And the other thing you got to put in the category is, was Jason Kelsey a huge piece
- 19:49for Jalen Hurts?
- 19:50Agreed.
- 19:51I was just thinking that.
- 19:52I didn't really watch how the center graded out overall.
- 19:55Jason Kelsey's phone probably rang after the game.
- 19:58It probably rang whether he picked up or not.
- 20:01Well, you sit at Buffalo Wild Wings with the big bubble.
- 20:04But he's also down.
- 20:05I think he's down like 20 pounds or 30 pounds or something.
- 20:08Yeah, no, he's not.
- 20:09He's probably loving retired.
- 20:10He's gonna go and do WWE like he did.
- 20:11And people still talk down on Jason Kelsey even when he retired like, he wasn't all that,
- 20:16he wasn't all that.
- 20:17He didn't really hold that thing together.
- 20:18Yeah, but why would he go back?
- 20:19The New Heights just signed a $100 billion contract with Amazon or something.
- 20:24So, yeah, like, he's not going to NFL.
- 20:27NFL is not paying him that kind of money.
- 20:30No, absolutely.
- 20:31And I truly think the Eagles are still gonna be a threat in the NFC.
- 20:34For sure.
- 20:35They have so much talent.
- 20:36I mean, I feel like Jalen Hurst is actually what holds that offense back.
- 20:40You know.
- 20:41Holds him back.
- 20:42Yeah, I agree.
- 20:43Yeah, I think he puts him in scenarios where the games are closer than other.
- 20:46Like you're saying, he has those two picks.
- 20:48But that's also Jalen Hurst, I think, style.
- 20:51I mean, he can go out and just absolutely dominate.
- 20:53But he's also gonna have those games where it's just like, I mean, are you a top 10?
- 20:58Not full consistency, like full consistency top 10 quarterback.
- 21:01Yeah, exactly.
- 21:02You know, especially if you can get into his face and start rattling him early.
- 21:06You know, he gets in that pocket.
- 21:07I think his eyes come down quickly.
- 21:09Yeah.
- 21:10I will say real quick before we move on, because we definitely gotta keep going.
- 21:13I will say that I still believe in that Eagles defense.
- 21:16Most of them are still very young.
- 21:18And they're all, not all of them, but five of their starters or something are from the University of Georgia.
- 21:23And they all played together and won championships together.
- 21:25I still think that's gonna be a thing.
- 21:27I still think their defense is still gonna be a thing.
- 21:29I still think that's gonna be a thing. I still think their defense is still gonna come together and absolutely dominate this league.
- 21:35But I don't know. Yet to be seen.
- 21:38Time will tell.
- 21:39Yet to be seen. Yet to be seen.
- 21:41Did you have one more thing, Rob? You looked like you had.
- 21:43No, I was just gonna say their middle of the road defense.
- 21:45That's for me right now.
- 21:46Right now, 100%. I agree, 100%.
- 21:49I'm still holding out hope that they can be better than that.
- 21:52It's just that I feel like as a team that's gonna have to be in the high 20s every week to consistently win.
- 21:57So it's gonna be on Jalen's shoulders to make sure they produce.
- 22:01And they were this week and got the dub.
- 22:04They did.
- 22:05So, next game, Jake, I will let you take the cake on this.
- 22:10Chiefs getting the dub 27-20 in Kansas City.
- 22:16You're a Ravens fan. Why don't you just tell us what you saw, your feelings.
- 22:22So, one, yeah, I'm not upset with the refs and the officiating.
- 22:29Even though right out of the gates we had four illegal formations on the first drive, which was pretty ridiculous.
- 22:36Where we had tackles lined up too far back.
- 22:40You could argue that it wasn't consistently called.
- 22:44I would agree with that.
- 22:45Over the course of the entire week, if you look at all of the games played, there were 22 illegal formations called and five of them were against the Ravens.
- 22:54And then Cleveland Browns had four flagged on them too.
- 22:59Now, there's different variations of illegal formation.
- 23:03Obviously, the point of emphasis is on the tackles.
- 23:06But you'd still have the odd wide receiver ones.
- 23:09And they were flagging illegal formations on kickoffs too.
- 23:12So obviously teams and the special teams are still learning and getting a feel for the kickoff rule.
- 23:16But I digress.
- 23:19So officiating aside, I think the Ravens got away from the running game too soon.
- 23:25They fell behind by 10.
- 23:28And they're still close, but they got away from who they are and what they are.
- 23:34And stopped handing it off to Derrick Henry.
- 23:37They put in...
- 23:39They definitely stopped handing it off to Derrick Henry.
- 23:40Yeah, they put in Justin Hilly or essentially going like hurry up third down.
- 23:46And it plays into Steve Spagnola's defensive scheme where he wants to put four guys, five guys on the line of scrimmage.
- 23:54He wants to come after your quarterback.
- 23:55They're blitzing and he's going to try and make Lamar Jackson beat him with his arm.
- 24:00And Lamar didn't do that.
- 24:02He got hurried.
- 24:03So the Ravens offensive line didn't hold up very well.
- 24:07When you look at the stats, Lamar Jackson ended up having more rushing attempts than Derrick Henry.
- 24:12You can't have that.
- 24:14True.
- 24:15I would agree with that.
- 24:16I would agree with that.
- 24:17You need somebody and looking at his passing stats as well, 41 attempts plus his 16 carries.
- 24:23So he's your offense, which we all know that.
- 24:25He's an MVP.
- 24:26We know that.
- 24:28But you need more than just one guy on offense.
- 24:30I agree with you.
- 24:32Going away from Derrick Henry that early seemed like a mistake.
- 24:3513 carries for King Henry.
- 24:38My kind of take of his age, Chris Jones actually dominated.
- 24:43He did.
- 24:44What a great game.
- 24:45Just watching the All-A-Con, the All-22, they seemed to run away from him.
- 24:49That's when they had the most success.
- 24:51And Lamar Jackson, I feel, had a lot more design runs, especially in that first half, than I typically thought that they would.
- 24:58Makes me nervous.
- 24:59Which makes me nervous.
- 25:00So that probably brings down Henry's carries with a few more of those designs.
- 25:05They bracketed the heck out of Mark Andrews.
- 25:08They were not going to let him.
- 25:10That's why you see Lively's numbers ridiculous because he was likely because he was just, you know, available because they were dropping down that safety on Andrews all day long.
- 25:20Zay Flowers was a little disappointment.
- 25:22I feel like they never really tried to stretch the field once.
- 25:25He started out pretty hot because they were doing a lot of crosses.
- 25:29That's exactly what you should be doing with a guy that fast.
- 25:32I can run that good of a route.
- 25:34Or like you were saying earlier about just getting the ball into the playmaker's hand.
- 25:38Get him in the open field.
- 25:39I'm going to make a play.
- 25:40He's that guy.
- 25:41He's that guy.
- 25:42Sorry, Rob.
- 25:43Flowers had 10 targets, six catches, but he only averaged 6.2 yards a catch.
- 25:49So that means that a lot of behind the ball.
- 25:51He had those two daggers or crossers across.
- 25:55Other than the rest, he was pretty much disappeared from the game.
- 25:59I felt like Bateman, did he drop?
- 26:03He had the one big catch towards the end of the game that put him in a position to tie the game, which was a great call, a great throw.
- 26:11It was out of bounds by literally a toe.
- 26:13Yeah, I mean, oh, well, what a play.
- 26:15What a play.
- 26:16But Bateman did.
- 26:18Oh, he did have a big drop, didn't he?
- 26:20I think he did.
- 26:21He did have a drop.
- 26:22So and then on the Chiefs side, if you want to throw out what you thought about the Chiefs game or did you get a chance to watch it?
- 26:27I mean, I watched a little bit of it, what I could.
- 26:30I think I mean, Pat is Pat, right?
- 26:33He looks so scary with speed on his team.
- 26:37Like I'm Draftless here.
- 26:38Xavier Worthy is the new Tyree Kilder.
- 26:40Yeah.
- 26:41And then Rice, which I think you told me that he was going to be arrested, but they pushed on his court case to the end of the year.
- 26:47So he's going to be there all year long.
- 26:49And with that speed, they're tough.
- 26:54I did think Kelsey looked slow.
- 26:56Correct.
- 26:57But that's OK.
- 26:58That's fine.
- 26:59When you got that speed, they have to respect the speed now.
- 27:02You absolutely still have to respect Kelsey down low, too.
- 27:05And now when you bring in a guy like Juju, when he's ready to go as a slot guy, you know, I don't think he's going to be a big factor there.
- 27:11But now you've got to look out for him, too.
- 27:13Yeah, he just looks slowish a little bit.
- 27:15Yeah, I felt like I could see the age a little bit on him, but he's coming to that.
- 27:19He's still able to find the soft spot when the play breaks.
- 27:23Yeah, the scramble drills, he still finds that hole.
- 27:26Yeah, he's really good at sitting in and finding open space for Pat to find him.
- 27:31I mean, going back to it, like Xavier Worthy might be that Tyree type body that they need.
- 27:37But yeah, I mean, Travis Kelsey, maybe the arrows too, just a little too much for him.
- 27:41Yeah.
- 27:42Maybe he was just partying a little too much.
- 27:44Maybe it's not Mustache Kelsey.
- 27:46And then you have Pacheco on the running side of it.
- 27:49So that offense looks super scary.
- 27:52And you look at Pacheco stats, like he only had 45 yards on 15 carries.
- 27:57But you think, right, but it's like they're impactful.
- 28:02They're an impactful 45 yards.
- 28:04He's getting the hard yards.
- 28:05He's getting the important ones.
- 28:06And it's just like, oh, it's like third and three and you're like, they're going to hand it to Pacheco and he's going to get it.
- 28:12And he's fast, too.
- 28:13Right. So it's that dose of quick speed.
- 28:15All of a sudden you have to keep him honest, too.
- 28:18Yeah.
- 28:19Honor the run.
- 28:20And then as soon as they honor the run, we throw a deep over the top.
- 28:23When you got two speed guys, they're not open.
- 28:25You got your safety blanket in Travis Kelsey that's just floating around somewhere.
- 28:29But he's out there somewhere.
- 28:30So how do you account for speed?
- 28:32How do you account for Travis Kelsey?
- 28:33How do you account for the run?
- 28:34You don't.
- 28:35How do you account for Pat?
- 28:36That's why, like, for me, you know, big news flash.
- 28:38But like for me, I still think they're the favorites to win the Super Bowl this year.
- 28:42I think they have a chance to three-peat for the first time ever.
- 28:45It'll be...
- 28:47I probably wouldn't necessarily disagree with that right now because I also kind of took a glance at their schedule.
- 28:54And it's pretty weak, I think, in the grand scheme of things.
- 28:58So as far as by the end of the season, they're probably going to be sitting one or two based on just based on like the fact that their schedule is so weak and how great of a team they are.
- 29:07For sure.
- 29:09And defensively, as long as Nick Bolden stays healthy, I think they all stay together this year.
- 29:13Yeah, yeah. Jones, yeah.
- 29:15Reid looked really nice.
- 29:17And then McDuffie, he had a couple nice plays.
- 29:21But yeah, I mean, that's all I got for Ravens Chiefs.
- 29:25Moving right along, we'll update you with our picks and all that when we're done recapping all the games because I forgot to do that to this point.
- 29:31Yeah, you don't want to even tell what the records are right now.
- 29:35It's not that bad.
- 29:38Let's go into it. The Jets at the 49ers.
- 29:41Rodgers did indeed play more than eight minutes, five minutes, whatever it was this season.
- 29:48They couldn't get it done. The Jets still couldn't get it done.
- 29:51A top five defense, you know, according to you, which I do agree with their top 10 at least for me.
- 29:58We didn't see that.
- 30:00They got worked.
- 30:02It ain't all. I mean, the Jets just never seem to get anything ever going. And then every time the 49ers get the ball, they go on a 12 minute, you know, play drive and totally take the momentum out of their offense.
- 30:17And the Jets never got in the game. And that's, you know, the couple different bounces on that one interception.
- 30:23Yeah, so it just wasn't there.
- 30:25Breeze Hall is going to be a big key.
- 30:26Yeah, he looks quick.
- 30:28You know, establish that run early with Breeze.
- 30:31Did you guys catch this game at all? This one, the Jets, the Jets, Niners?
- 30:35I mean, I saw the tail end of it. I think it was the last quarter.
- 30:39Had softball yesterday. But what I did see is, I mean, I liked Tyrod Taylor for that last drive.
- 30:46I think he moved the ball better than what I saw Aaron Rodgers move the ball.
- 30:49I mean, granted, there was a one time Aaron Rodgers got a free play where the guy was offside.
- 30:53He threw a deep, they got a touchdown.
- 30:55Classic Tyrod Rodgers.
- 30:57Yeah, that's my best friend.
- 30:59But I mean, Tyrod's a veteran too though.
- 31:02He is. He started for the Bills back in the day.
- 31:05He's a beast there.
- 31:06I mean, I don't want to discredit the Jets yet.
- 31:08I mean, it is the first time that Aaron Rodgers has actually been on his first game, right?
- 31:14Since last year. And we know who he is.
- 31:17I mean, as Vikings fans, we've seen him do it.
- 31:19So I don't think we discredit him. Their defense needs to figure it out. Robert Sala's got to figure it out.
- 31:25But when you go, when you get the 49ers right away, I mean, what do you expect?
- 31:28You can't expect. And then Mason had a game.
- 31:31Yeah, you know, like just pounded him.
- 31:33And by the time they got to the fourth quarter, that defense had nothing left in the tank.
- 31:37They were absolutely gassed.
- 31:38The 49ers offense was just pushing them back.
- 31:4128 carries of that big boy coming at you.
- 31:43Let him run.
- 31:44And we thought it would be a problem. CMC not playing. Uh oh. Uh oh. But yeah, no big deal.
- 31:49And he found out, Mason found out he was starting on Friday or something.
- 31:53That's interesting.
- 31:54Allegedly.
- 31:55They're all the whole like when you have to report an injury.
- 31:59So that's why I think the some words got changed.
- 32:03There's some things that are weird about that right now.
- 32:06They have to be there who's injured and who is not, you know, at these certain timelines.
- 32:11For sure. No, I think the 49ers showed us that they are who we thought they were.
- 32:17You know what I mean? Straight up.
- 32:19So that's going to be a tough game this week for the Vikings, but we'll get into that later.
- 32:24I did want to go back to the Jets really quick.
- 32:26They do have a bounce back game next week. They're going to be in Tennessee.
- 32:29I think that's a great opportunity for that defense to get their stuff together.
- 32:33I mean offense too. I mean the whole team. I think Robert Sala. Sala? Sala? Sala? Sala? Sala? Sala?
- 32:40Robert. He came out. Robert. He came out and said that he's happier and more content where they are right now
- 32:49doing 0-1 than they were when then when they were 1-0 to start the season last year,
- 32:55which is wild to think about. But then he's just confident in his team.
- 32:59He's confident they can get it together, turn it around and have a successful season.
- 33:03I mean you got Tennessee, New England, Denver. There's some opportunities there for the Jets.
- 33:07I think that that speaks more to the confidence that he has in Aaron Rodgers than anything else
- 33:12because he was probably scratching his head and like I got Zach Wilson now.
- 33:16What the heck am I going to figure this out? Right. Right.
- 33:19Well remember last week Zach Wilson's a starter according to the Broncos GMs.
- 33:23Well after a boy vote next week they might need a starter. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
- 33:29Yeah. With that, nothing to say there. 49ers stomped the Jets. Got the job done.
- 33:35Let's look at our final game of the of our first week here. Steelers traveling to Atlanta.
- 33:45That was an interesting game for me. First we didn't know Russ Wilson was going to be out.
- 33:49Still struggling with a calf injury. And he's ruled out for week two now.
- 33:53Officially? Officially. I saw he was questionable. He's officially ruled out for week two now.
- 33:57Unbelievable. So Joseph Fields will get another start. He kind of did enough for the win.
- 34:04He didn't look horrible, but he didn't look that good. But he looked better than Kirk Cousins.
- 34:09I would agree with that, but I still think he was horrible. I know you're out in Joseph Fields.
- 34:14He just misses so many throws. It's one option, eyes down, run. It bothers me so bad.
- 34:22Especially when you have your first option here and then the second option is tight end over the ball.
- 34:27Wide open in the middle of the field and he just won't make the throw.
- 34:31And it just bothers the heck out of me. He just puts himself in these scenarios and then he's scrambling.
- 34:36And then you get the Justin Fields effect. Is it this crazy 60 yard bomb across his body or is he tucking down and run?
- 34:45Which he's nice doing. But he still makes that throw every once in a while that scares the leg and the neck out of me.
- 34:53You've got to account for that scramble. Whether the scramble is going to be for 60, 70 yards or is it going to be negative five?
- 35:01He does like to pull it really early.
- 35:04If I concern with Russell or Justin what the best option is, you're tossing a coin.
- 35:09You look at Russ back in Denver. You can almost guarantee that a win anybody who was playing them.
- 35:15But when you look at the Bears, as a Vikings fan, Justin Fields used to scare me.
- 35:20He's still a little bit unpredictable. He's very predictable, but at the same time he'll still do something that you're just like, what?
- 35:25And then it'll work though. That's the problem. That's what he was doing against the Vikings at the end of the season.
- 35:30How do you scheme for a wild card? How do you scheme for somebody that's going to scramble?
- 35:35You have to QB spy everything? Russell ain't really...
- 35:37That's what they did. They won high safety Robert with a spy man to man all game long. That's all they did against him.
- 35:44And Russ ain't going to run anymore. Russ is done.
- 35:46Yeah.
- 35:47So, I mean, Steelers are going to be better than Kenny Pick it was.
- 35:53But if Fields comes out and wins next week, whoever they're playing, I don't know.
- 35:57If he comes out and can get the win next week, even if Russ is good to go week three, should they start him?
- 36:02No.
- 36:03Over Justin Fields?
- 36:04No, absolutely not. I think Russ's time might be done and just let...
- 36:09If he wants to be a backup anyway, he can keep playing.
- 36:12I mean, he's made enough money.
- 36:13That's what I mean.
- 36:14Like a ride.
- 36:15Like a ride.
- 36:16Yeah, right?
- 36:17It's Broncos country.
- 36:18Let's ride.
- 36:19Let's ride. Dude, that was so crazy.
- 36:20Well, that's where the Steelers play this week is, the Broncos.
- 36:22Is it?
- 36:23In Denver.
- 36:24Well, let Bo Nix.
- 36:25So maybe that's why Russ is like, I'm not playing this one.
- 36:28Yeah.
- 36:29It takes all the fun out of it.
- 36:30You know what?
- 36:31I'm going to stay home and rehab even.
- 36:32Is it in Denver?
- 36:33It's in Denver too.
- 36:34Yeah, I'm going to stay home and rehab.
- 36:35Yeah.
- 36:36Danger, Russ.
- 36:37Real quick, other side, the Falcons.
- 36:40Some people are freaking out about Kirk Cousins' performance and some people are like, whatever.
- 36:45Like, head coach came out and said he's just knocking Russ off.
- 36:48It is what it is.
- 36:49For me, what I saw anyway on his two picks, he was hit both times.
- 36:53Getting hit as he threw the ball both times.
- 36:55That's going to take meat.
- 36:56That's going to take meat.
- 36:57Wow.
- 36:58I mean, I guess it's going to take meat off the ball.
- 36:59You know what I mean?
- 37:00He's not going to quite get it all the way out there, but he still didn't look comfortable.
- 37:05Bring up what you were saying.
- 37:06Yeah.
- 37:07That was really interesting.
- 37:08I saw something.
- 37:09I was on Twitter and they were talking about how when Kirk was at Washington and when he
- 37:14was at the Vikings, duh, yeah, he has a staggered stance.
- 37:19So his left foot's back when he's taking the snap.
- 37:22And then this week, he was more in the pistol with the Falcons and he has a more square stance.
- 37:27So his left foot and his right foot obviously are shoulder to shoulder.
- 37:30And then you have to be viable to make that handoff.
- 37:33But what they were saying was as he's driving off that back foot when you throw, right?
- 37:37Because you can't just, he ain't going to do the arm throwing like Patty does off his
- 37:41left foot in the air kind of throwing.
- 37:43He ain't doing that.
- 37:45So his drive, like the one he threw in the dirt, you could see that he's not pushing
- 37:50off that back foot.
- 37:51So you're wondering whether or not his right, his right Achilles, if he's healthy.
- 37:55Or he just doesn't trust it.
- 37:57And that's the other thing.
- 37:58I think it's more that than it's still injured.
- 38:01Or is it a scheme thing?
- 38:02Or is it like Ken Kirk playing the pistol?
- 38:04I agree.
- 38:05I thought they looked really funky on it.
- 38:07And guess actually how many times?
- 38:08Because B.
- 38:09John Robinson had a decent game.
- 38:11You know, like he looked like he was a threat.
- 38:13You know, I would say he had the best game ever.
- 38:15But like he looked like a threat.
- 38:17And the Steelers, first of all, I think that T.J. Watt won the game for the Steelers by far.
- 38:23Yeah.
- 38:24You know, so but guess how many times the Falcons ran play action?
- 38:30Zero.
- 38:31That is correct.
- 38:32No way.
- 38:33Zero play actions.
- 38:34So you have one of the best running backs in the NFL and you run play action zero times.
- 38:39One of the better play action quarterbacks in the NFL.
- 38:41I'd say as well.
- 38:42That's how it ran.
- 38:43Yeah.
- 38:44And that's where that pistol concept comes up, you know, and he looked really uncomfortable.
- 38:48And a lot of those handoffs, he just like it was like a half step weird on it a few times I saw on the tape.
- 38:54So I got to go back and see that one a little bit.
- 38:57Yeah.
- 38:58And then on that one throw you're talking about, he throws on the dirt.
- 39:00He just it's like he planted and then started going forward.
- 39:03And then when his weight was already transitioning, that's when he that's how you get those picks.
- 39:08I also thought two were like he was like an option for and I was like, all right, I'm just.
- 39:13Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 39:14For sure.
- 39:15The old Kirk that we hate.
- 39:16Yeah, for sure.
- 39:17Was those interceptions.
- 39:18But he doesn't have JJ to throw it to now.
- 39:21That is true.
- 39:22And the Falcons, who's their second receiver?
- 39:24Kyle Pitts.
- 39:25Or has he won?
- 39:26Has Kyle Pitts won?
- 39:27Well, Pitts in London and then you have.
- 39:29I guess Ray Ray.
- 39:30Yeah, I guess Ray.
- 39:31Well, Darnell Mooney, I'd probably count that him as their second receiver who didn't do anything.
- 39:36But has Darnell Mooney ever proven that he can be a viable piece?
- 39:39Number two option?
- 39:40Yeah, I think so.
- 39:41I think he can be a number two option.
- 39:43Number one.
- 39:44No way.
- 39:45And he was the Bears number one.
- 39:46I think he's a two.
- 39:47They didn't stretch the field at all.
- 39:48That's back to the play action.
- 39:49They did not stretch the, you know, at all.
- 39:52And Steelers were just coming hard.
- 39:54And I was really impressed with the Steelers defense on tape.
- 39:57They were just flying all over the mic.
- 39:59Oh, Jay.
- 40:00I was really impressed.
- 40:02TJ Watt going to come up and smack Lamar Jackson.
- 40:06That's not uncommon.
- 40:10Not uncommon.
- 40:11It will happen.
- 40:12So real quick, we won't go through every game again just to determine who picked what or whatever.
- 40:19But Rob took it away for week one.
- 40:22Four and one, his only loss coming when he decided to pick the Ravens to beat the Chiefs.
- 40:28And that was a close game.
- 40:29It came down to a toe.
- 40:30Yeah.
- 40:31Yeah.
- 40:32We'll let them have it.
- 40:34No, no, no, no.
- 40:36Oh my gosh.
- 40:37Who said that?
- 40:38Patrick Mahomes said that at his press conference at the end of the game.
- 40:43I mean, it's kind of like a thing to say.
- 40:47But at the same time, like, hey, is he wrong though?
- 40:49What if he did wear white shoes?
- 40:50That makes it harder.
- 40:51Yes, it certainly does.
- 40:53It's going to add fuel to the fire of that rivalry.
- 40:57I think it's going to make the next time they see each other that much more interesting.
- 41:02Sure.
- 41:03Hopefully looking forward to seeing that again in the playoffs.
- 41:06But wouldn't mind not seeing it if it means that the Chiefs are out.
- 41:10I bet.
- 41:11I bet.
- 41:12So Jake and I also went three and two on the week.
- 41:15That's right.
- 41:16Hey, that's over a 500, right?
- 41:17That's right.
- 41:18Better than 500, which we couldn't have gone anyway because it's a five game slate.
- 41:21Matt.
- 41:22Matt went 0-0.
- 41:23So that's my bad.
- 41:24I didn't get him the games.
- 41:25But I'm going to continue getting all of our guests the games so they can continue.
- 41:29And we'll see if they can beat Rob since he's a genius.
- 41:32And we'll just keep track of that throughout the season.
- 41:35Just on Mondays, I'm a genius.
- 41:37A lead football.
- 41:38Just on Mondays.
- 41:39Well, good thing it's a Tuesday.
- 41:40Good thing we're picking today.
- 41:41So yeah, with that, that wraps our game recap for our week one recap, I suppose.
- 41:55And to start off Tent Talk, of course, we're going to go ahead and start with injuries.
- 42:00Jay Love, we already mentioned him.
- 42:02MCL Sprain.
- 42:03Still questionable.
- 42:04I think at the moment for week two, I think if that last play of the Packer game told
- 42:10us any indication, you got to have them.
- 42:12Not even an option.
- 42:13You got to have Jordan Love out there over Malik Willis.
- 42:16Yeah, it's just a whole different team, especially with all those skilled receivers.
- 42:21Yeah.
- 42:22And then, yeah, they're not the same team.
- 42:24And whether it's four weeks, six weeks.
- 42:26Yeah, yeah, exactly.
- 42:27So that'll be an interesting number to hear.
- 42:31Or does he go out?
- 42:32Really low grade Sprain, they're saying he could play with an E-Brace.
- 42:35Is that worth it for the Packers right now, this early in the season?
- 42:39Or should they let them get a little bit of rest on it, at least for one week?
- 42:43They play the Colts this week.
- 42:45I think for their long-term success, not just for this year, but for ongoing, they should
- 42:52just let them rest.
- 42:54Just take your lumps now with Malik Willis.
- 42:57And I don't know why NFL GMs haven't figured this out from last year.
- 43:02The increase in quarterback injuries year after year.
- 43:06Your backup quarterback matters.
- 43:09Oh, yeah.
- 43:10Why are GMs...
- 43:11Especially last season.
- 43:12Was it last season?
- 43:13Yeah, yeah.
- 43:14Why are so many GMs putting in first rookies and second year or third year quarterbacks
- 43:21that don't have experience?
- 43:22You saw with the Browns when Deshaun Watson went down, they brought in Joe Flacco, former
- 43:26Raven Super Bowl champ, right?
- 43:28Get that in there.
- 43:30And he carried the Browns into the playoffs because of that.
- 43:34So, well, yeah.
- 43:36Former Raven Super Bowl champ.
- 43:38I'm sure you dropped him.
- 43:40How many Super Bowls do you have?
- 43:41But it's a great point.
- 43:42It's a great point.
- 43:43You saw, and it's kind of what the Packers have done over the years with...
- 43:47I mean, when they got Brett Favre, he didn't start right away either.
- 43:50No.
- 43:51Because they got him from Atlanta.
- 43:52I don't think he came in and started right away.
- 43:54No.
- 43:55Aaron Rodgers sat for longer than Favre did, but Rodgers sat, Loves sat, and now they might
- 44:02have found themselves another franchise quarterback.
- 44:04So, I don't know, to be seen on that, on the franchise part, but he's looking good, got
- 44:08to have him.
- 44:09Don't risk it.
- 44:10Big loss.
- 44:11Big loss for him.
- 44:12Or you go out and get Tannehill.
- 44:14Yeah.
- 44:15Oh, he is still out there.
- 44:16Yeah, he's probably the one that's out there.
- 44:19That's viable.
- 44:20Yeah, you could feel comfortable.
- 44:21He can hand the ball off.
- 44:22Yeah.
- 44:23Yeah.
- 44:24He's been around Josh Jacobs 25 times.
- 44:25Yeah, he's a play action.
- 44:26Yeah.
- 44:27The quarterback.
- 44:28Yeah.
- 44:29LaFleur's calling up the Raiders right now.
- 44:31Like, what plays did you run, Josh Jacobs?
- 44:33How many times?
- 44:34We got to get that.
- 44:35ISO, ISO, ISO, ISO.
- 44:37Yeah.
- 44:38Staying on running backs.
- 44:39Kenneth Walker, abdominal, some sort of abdominal deal going on.
- 44:43He's day to day at the moment.
- 44:44Poor fella.
- 44:45He's been having issues ever since he hit the league.
- 44:47Could be a game changer, but he just can't stay healthy.
- 44:51CMC with an Achilles tendonitis.
- 44:55That was kind of a surprise miss on this game.
- 44:59He could miss this week's game.
- 45:02Let's hope he does.
- 45:03Or not.
- 45:04I don't want to.
- 45:05Well, true.
- 45:06True.
- 45:07With Mason.
- 45:08He's running 20 times for 100 and what, at 44, 170, whatever it was.
- 45:10I don't think they're running that many times with the Vikings.
- 45:13Well, let's.
- 45:14We'll see.
- 45:15We'll see.
- 45:16Yeah, go ahead.
- 45:17Thank you.
- 45:18You got to bring your necklace next week.
- 45:19I will.
- 45:20Jordan Addison.
- 45:21Wait, is this Jordan Addison we're talking about?
- 45:24Yeah.
- 45:25Oh, man.
- 45:26I didn't even know that.
- 45:27Out with an ankle injury.
- 45:29Yeah.
- 45:30That blows.
- 45:31Like he's officially out.
- 45:32It could be up to a few weeks.
- 45:34Was it a high ankle sprain or something?
- 45:36I don't know if they've ever.
- 45:37It's just that same ankle that he hurt earlier in the sting re-agorated to what degree that
- 45:43I don't think they've really kept.
- 45:44So that'll be Jalen Naylor and who?
- 45:46Powell then?
- 45:47Or Sheffield Jr.
- 45:48From Sheffield.
- 45:49Yeah.
- 45:50Yeah, because Jackson's still out, I believe.
- 45:51He was out of the last game anyways.
- 45:53Tristan.
- 45:54Tristan Jackson.
- 45:55Yeah.
- 45:56Yeah.
- 45:57So yeah.
- 45:58So that hurts.
- 45:59And then also with Hawkinson now that's.
- 46:00Still have him gone.
- 46:01No.
- 46:02Oliver came up with a decent catch, but he drops his fair share too.
- 46:04Johnny.
- 46:05He does not run the best routes either, but it is what it is.
- 46:08Blocking tight end.
- 46:09Yeah, right.
- 46:10Like that.
- 46:11Yeah.
- 46:12Yeah.
- 46:13Yeah.
- 46:14Yeah.
- 46:15Blocking tight end.
- 46:16Panthers.
- 46:17Pro Bowl D lineman.
- 46:18Yeah.
- 46:19Yeah.
- 46:20Yeah.
- 46:21I didn't really want to mention it that much because it's the Panthers and they're probably
- 46:24going to be bottom of the barrel, but it just makes them worse.
- 46:26Yeah.
- 46:27I mean, you can't.
- 46:28Can't be losing.
- 46:29There was some tickets sold, a pair of tickets for the next game.
- 46:33$1.20, $1.80.
- 46:34For the Carolina Panthers?
- 46:36For Carolina at home.
- 46:37Oh man.
- 46:38How much is the flight?
- 46:39I can check that stadium off my list really easy.
- 46:41Yeah, you would.
- 46:42So like that's a sad, you know, that they're just down another talent piece on a lesser
- 46:48class, talented team.
- 46:49So not much talent left.
- 46:53But Russell Wilson, we've already talked about Russell Wilson.
- 46:55Is he officially out?
- 46:57You said?
- 46:58Yeah.
- 46:59Yeah.
- 47:00Officially out.
- 47:01Pukunakua, also week to week, essentially, but he is an IR, which means he's going to
- 47:05miss a minimum of four games.
- 47:09Another guy you got to have out there now, at least, you know, at least Cooper Cups healthy
- 47:13as far as we know at the moment.
- 47:15He looks nice.
- 47:16He missed 21 targets.
- 47:17He looked great.
- 47:18He looked great.
- 47:19And don't don't discredit the Minnesota native Tyler Johnson, man.
- 47:21Out of Minneapolis.
- 47:22He ended up with the Rams right now.
- 47:25When Puka went out, he actually had, I think he had his longest catch in his NFL career
- 47:31last game.
- 47:32Good for him.
- 47:33Which is me nine yards.
- 47:34Good for him.
- 47:35He's a Super Bowl champion.
- 47:36Never forget.
- 47:37Hey, if you want Tyler Johnson memorabilia, locally, I'm your guy.
- 47:41Got too much of it.
- 47:43Anyway, but no, good for him.
- 47:44I actually didn't even know he played for the Rams.
- 47:46I knew he was on the Texans and things weren't working out there.
- 47:49Practice squad and then here and there.
- 47:50But I'm glad he's getting an opportunity.
- 47:52I'm going to pay attention to the home town boy.
- 47:54Pay attention to the Rams now.
- 47:55We have no news this week, really.
- 47:58You know, week one, nothing really crazy happened.
- 48:00Oh, that's right.
- 48:01News was Tyreek.
- 48:02Tyreek Hill moving on.
- 48:03So moving on from that.
- 48:06Good call, Jake.
- 48:07Let's head right into our bonehead move of the week.
- 48:13All right.
- 48:17And if you've been with us since the beginning of time, the beginning of Banner, the boys
- 48:21time for NFL shows, obviously, you know that bonehead, the move of the week is kind of
- 48:27my deal.
- 48:28That's my little baby, my little my little love child.
- 48:31But Rob actually came up with a great bonehead move of the week.
- 48:34And I think it's awesome, Rob.
- 48:35Why don't you lay it on us?
- 48:37Yeah, it's it's all about the California football teams and great.
- 48:41We just lost two subscribers.
- 48:42Wow.
- 48:43If they if they're in MMA, they're going to love this.
- 48:48But just the constant fighting amongst the fans, I saw at least five to 10 different
- 48:55Twitter videos of just just people getting after each other in the stands over a football
- 49:01game.
- 49:02And that's a game that they have no no personal stake in.
- 49:06I mean, yeah, we've been Viking fans for our life.
- 49:08Are we going to were we disappointed in 2009?
- 49:11Yeah.
- 49:12I mean, you know, we didn't go and start punching people.
- 49:13I'm sure some people did.
- 49:15But most of us didn't go and start punching people about it.
- 49:18But you're right.
- 49:19It's just like it's almost like a weekly occurrence.
- 49:21Yeah.
- 49:22California football.
- 49:23Yeah, it's the Raiders, the Chargers, definitely for sure.
- 49:2749ers fans.
- 49:28I'm gonna call the Raiders the California team because most of their fans are from California
- 49:34still.
- 49:35So just in general, did that for some reason?
- 49:38There was a lot of videos.
- 49:39And it's not even this year that I've seen it.
- 49:42It's just I don't know what it is.
- 49:43No, you're right.
- 49:45It's been a thing at least for the last like 10 years, but it seems to be getting worse
- 49:49and it seems to be more and more California.
- 49:52I've seen some Philly stuff.
- 49:54I've seen some Buffalo Bill stuff, actually.
- 49:57Usually that's pregame.
- 49:58Yeah.
- 49:59Yeah.
- 50:00Usually it's with themselves and whatever.
- 50:01But it's like Charger fans against Charger fans.
- 50:03It's not even like they're fighting the other team.
- 50:06They're like fighting within.
- 50:07It must just be a California thing.
- 50:10That hot weather must hit me.
- 50:11You know what I mean?
- 50:12I don't know.
- 50:13Just short tempers or something going on.
- 50:15I'm a Chargers fan.
- 50:16I'd still be upset over just being a Chargers fan.
- 50:18Whoa.
- 50:19We should be in San Diego.
- 50:20Calm down.
- 50:21Calm down.
- 50:22I do.
- 50:23I am.
- 50:24Chargers are my AFC team, my number two.
- 50:26We learned something new from you.
- 50:28You didn't know that?
- 50:29No.
- 50:30Oh man, LaDenia Tomlinson did that to me in my childhood.
- 50:31So you love J.K.
- 50:32Dobbins now then, huh?
- 50:33I'm actually a big fan of that move.
- 50:35We're not gonna go.
- 50:36We're not gonna go far.
- 50:37I'm actually a big fan of that move.
- 50:38You had a good game.
- 50:39You had a good game.
- 50:41He still got potential.
- 50:42But another one, injury history.
- 50:45Not very good.
- 50:47So boneheads, stop doing that.
- 50:49Enjoy the game.
- 50:50Go home.
- 50:51Watch the second set of the games.
- 50:53Calm down.
- 50:54Then go punch your garage wall if you gotta hit somebody.
- 50:56Yeah, there you go.
- 50:57Get a speed bag or something.
- 50:58With that, let's head into next week's five game slate.
- 51:06And to go ahead and start off our week two five game slate.
- 51:11We are in week two already of the NFL.
- 51:13The Bills heading into Miami where Miami is favored by two and a half.
- 51:20What do we think about that?
- 51:21What do we got?
- 51:22Yeah, what do we think?
- 51:24Matt, why don't you take us away there for Bills Dolphins.
- 51:28Say a little tidbit and then give us what you think is taking that.
- 51:33I mean, I'm a little biased because my wife's a Buffalo Bills fan for some reason.
- 51:37Your wife is a Bills fan?
- 51:40He's a pretty man.
- 51:42He's a pretty man.
- 51:43You guys got a picture of Josh Allen on the wall yet?
- 51:46I bought her a jersey one year.
- 51:47Does she wear it on Sundays?
- 51:49No.
- 51:50That's what I was thinking.
- 51:53If we break it down, I mean, I don't hate Buffalo.
- 51:58They've always been that one team that the Chiefs and Buffalo are kind of going at it.
- 52:03I think Miami, I think they're good.
- 52:06Don't get me wrong, but I think Buffalo can take this.
- 52:09Buffalo takes it for you?
- 52:10I think so.
- 52:11Fair enough.
- 52:12And regular season Buffalo is always a good bet.
- 52:13For the most part.
- 52:14For the most part.
- 52:15That game last year against the Vikes was wild.
- 52:17But for the most part, regular season, Buffalo is usually a safe bet.
- 52:21Absolutely.
- 52:22So if you're at Lions or at Dolphins, you're taking Buff?
- 52:25I mean, I'm biased.
- 52:28You break it down.
- 52:29I think Miami's roster might be better.
- 52:31But Josh Allen threw four touchdowns for almost 300 yards.
- 52:34And we got Curtis Samuel, Keenan Coleman, Dalton Kincaid, who hadn't do anything.
- 52:38One catch.
- 52:39Exactly.
- 52:40Two yards.
- 52:41He used my fantasy tight end last year.
- 52:43And finally use him, maybe.
- 52:45I don't know.
- 52:46But, I mean.
- 52:49Buffalo.
- 52:50Fair enough.
- 52:51I think the roster, the locks have not been changed at your house.
- 52:53So.
- 52:54No.
- 52:55I mean, good call.
- 52:56Well, and this won't get released right away.
- 52:57So you'll be able to get home tonight.
- 53:00Jake, Buffalo traveling to Miami.
- 53:05Buffalo is traveling on a short week.
- 53:07Thursday games are always ugly.
- 53:09They are.
- 53:11Dolphins have speed.
- 53:13And Josh Allen is the only offense that the Bills have.
- 53:18I take Dolphins.
- 53:20Dolphins?
- 53:21Going to the Dolphins.
- 53:22The fans.
- 53:23The fans.
- 53:24I'm going the opposite direction.
- 53:27H.A. is hurt.
- 53:29Is he?
- 53:30Yeah.
- 53:31He messed with a hip.
- 53:32I think he walked off the field late in that game.
- 53:37And I did not see that.
- 53:38So and Mosterd was not effective at all.
- 53:42That whole Dolphins offense kind of struggled.
- 53:45Hill had a long touchdown.
- 53:47But other than that, that offense struggled most of the day.
- 53:52So they battled back into it at the end.
- 53:55I'm not saying it wasn't a good game, but it wasn't that high powered Dolphins offense
- 53:59that we're talking about.
- 54:00You would think.
- 54:01Yeah.
- 54:02Let's talk about the speed and how unstoppable.
- 54:03Well, they weren't.
- 54:05They were stopped most of the game last week.
- 54:08So I'm going with Buffalo.
- 54:11I just got a weird vibe like Josh Allen.
- 54:16I think they're working the weapons in with Coleman.
- 54:19And who is the other receiver starts with S.
- 54:21Curtis Samuel.
- 54:22The other one.
- 54:23Shake here.
- 54:24Sure.
- 54:25Yeah.
- 54:26Shakira.
- 54:27Yes.
- 54:28And two dot two tight ends.
- 54:29James Cook looked really nice.
- 54:31You know, he did run in the ball.
- 54:34So I just got I got a feeling the bills are going to go down to Miami and take this one.
- 54:39Love it.
- 54:40Wow.
- 54:41Wow.
- 54:42OK.
- 54:43Fair enough.
- 54:44So I got to go with they still have injuries defensively, but I'm going with the Dolphins.
- 54:52I think the Dolphins can can take this at home for me.
- 54:57They still have Jalen Waddle too.
- 55:01It's not just all about Tyreek on that offense.
- 55:03They got to get everybody involved.
- 55:05I think last week was kind of like I mean for most teams, right.
- 55:09You can't use the same excuse for everybody.
- 55:11I'll knock on the rust off.
- 55:13Right.
- 55:14Maybe they battled back and stayed in that game last week against the Jaguars and then
- 55:18ended up pulling out the win.
- 55:20I don't know.
- 55:21That's enough for me.
- 55:23I think Buffalo is a little bit more gritty, but I think the Dolphins come away with the
- 55:26win.
- 55:27Yeah.
- 55:28Another it's another division game.
- 55:29Another on the spread is two and a half Miami.
- 55:32Right.
- 55:33So if I at home.
- 55:35So Vegas has got it.
- 55:37You know, almost a pick them.
- 55:38Right.
- 55:39Pretty much.
- 55:40Pretty much.
- 55:41We have Indianapolis going to Lambeau to play the Packers.
- 55:49Indianapolis right now favorite it by three and a half.
- 55:52And that's got to be something to do with Jordan loves for sure.
- 55:55It's questionability.
- 55:56You know, is that a word questionability that does tonight?
- 56:00Just happened.
- 56:02Just happened.
- 56:03If Jordan love plays that could change.
- 56:07That's a tough one.
- 56:09Since I went last and listen to all your takes so I can't steal your picks.
- 56:12I'll go first on this one.
- 56:14Dang, that's tough.
- 56:16Would you go last?
- 56:17Oh, you want dolphins.
- 56:19Yeah, I went.
- 56:20I went.
- 56:21Listen, I went.
- 56:22That's fine.
- 56:23Most people don't listen when I talk.
- 56:26Dang, that's tough.
- 56:27Why did I pick myself to go first on this one?
- 56:29You did.
- 56:30I think I got to go Colts just for the uncertainty of Jordan love.
- 56:33I don't know.
- 56:34Yeah.
- 56:35The Colts didn't look that bad last week.
- 56:38Anthony Richardson again for me still needs to protect his body a little bit better.
- 56:42Coming off an L, they'll be ready to play.
- 56:44Yeah, I got to go Colts.
- 56:46I think it should go back to Rob now since he went.
- 56:50Yeah, we're snaking.
- 56:51We're snaking.
- 56:52Might as well.
- 56:53We can reverse the flow.
- 56:54We'll go snake.
- 56:55We'll go snake.
- 56:56We'll go snake.
- 56:57We'll go like who know and reverse.
- 56:58Yeah, yeah.
- 56:59I am going with Colts too just because of the Jordan love factor.
- 57:02Otherwise, I would go if Jordan love was playing fully healthy, I would definitely go Packers
- 57:06at home.
- 57:07So watch him play on Sunday.
- 57:08So Colts defense is a pretty solid little group there.
- 57:13They played pretty well last week.
- 57:15I'm trying to think who they even played.
- 57:17The Texans.
- 57:18The Texans.
- 57:19So that was a very tight game.
- 57:21But did you guys see that throw that Richardson threw to that touchdown pass to I think it
- 57:25was Alex Pierce?
- 57:27Oh, yeah.
- 57:28He just aired that thing out.
- 57:31That was like a 60 yard time.
- 57:33In the air.
- 57:34In the air.
- 57:35Yeah, yeah.
- 57:36That was ridiculous.
- 57:37That place was rocking too.
- 57:38Yeah, that guy's arm talent is amazing.
- 57:42Still needs to work on.
- 57:43He still has that Justin Fields effect.
- 57:46First option.
- 57:47Got to go to the second option.
- 57:49Can't bring your eyes down and just be running to be an NFL quarterback because he did take
- 57:54a couple big hits.
- 57:55That's what I mean.
- 57:56That's what I'm talking about.
- 57:57There was one questionable whether it was a personal follow.
- 58:01He got thrown down so hard.
- 58:03But the boy, he's a big boy and he can move and he's got a gun.
- 58:07So with Jonathan Taylor still is running back still establishing with that.
- 58:11We're in the guardian cap.
- 58:12Yep.
- 58:13Yeah.
- 58:14So I'm going Colts.
- 58:15I think you're stealing my notes.
- 58:18So I'm taking the Colts.
- 58:21First reason no Jordan love.
- 58:22I mean, that's the biggest one.
- 58:25I expect to see a lot more Jonathan Taylor this week than last week.
- 58:30And that Colts defense was even though the L as you pointed out, they're pretty stout
- 58:34and they were all over CJ Stroud.
- 58:36Love that.
- 58:37Yeah.
- 58:38I mean, I'm just gonna ride the train.
- 58:41We're going Colts over Packers.
- 58:43I mean, as a biased Vikings fan, I'd love to see the Packers lose.
- 58:47But going on to it, I think Anthony Richardson still got a lot to prove, especially after
- 58:51getting injured last year.
- 58:53But seeing what I saw from him, I think he can still carry a win over a hurt Packers
- 58:59team.
- 59:01The defense was good.
- 59:02And I think Michael Pittman still needs to show.
- 59:04I don't think they got I don't think they really got him in that look.
- 59:07And even Jonathan Taylor when Anthony Richardson outrushes your running back, right?
- 59:11You're gonna have to feed the rock to him this week, especially against that Packers
- 59:15D. And then I mean, and then Michael Pittman and then they got what is that a Donnie Mitchell?
- 59:19I think he didn't get a lot of looks.
- 59:22But I mean, last year, I think he shined out.
- 59:24He did.
- 59:25So yeah, I mean, school Vikings, boo Packers.
- 59:30Cool Vikings.
- 59:31Yeah, I like it.
- 59:32Got it.
- 59:33And my bad, Kevin went out of order the order that I had just created right before we did
- 59:38this.
- 59:39So I went out of order.
- 59:42The next game was supposed to be Bucks at Lions.
- 59:47So Lions, I'm sorry.
- 59:49Yeah, Lions are favorited by seven.
- 59:51They're at home in Detroit.
- 59:53Oh, that's right.
- 59:55That goes to be we're saying here.
- 59:58Put you on the on the seat here.
- 1:00:00I like I like the Bucks, but you really can't discredit the Lions even though they're asking
- 1:00:05North team.
- 1:00:06I think Dan Campbell has done a really awesome job with with those Lions.
- 1:00:11I'm on raw towards the end of that game really kind of wasn't he wasn't there.
- 1:00:15But you look at Dave Montgomery, you put the team on his back and just carry the field.
- 1:00:22They've just got they got too many weapons.
- 1:00:24The Porter Goff's looking like that was a great trade between Stanford and golf.
- 1:00:30Lions it is.
- 1:00:31Lions it is.
- 1:00:32Lions it is.
- 1:00:33Jake at Lions.
- 1:00:34I'm taking Lions.
- 1:00:35Jamison Williams had his coming out party.
- 1:00:41And so now you have a I feel like you have a legitimate number two next to Amidra.
- 1:00:48You still have Laporta and that two headed beast of a backfield for Detroit and arguably
- 1:00:54the best offensive line in football.
- 1:00:56Those Lions that all line is just pushing the Rams back again and again.
- 1:01:03I don't think I don't think the Bucks as good as their run defense has been historically
- 1:01:09the last couple of years.
- 1:01:10I don't think that they'll I don't think they'll be able to handle it.
- 1:01:13So Lions enough for enough.
- 1:01:16You'll thunder and lightning is get the best advantage.
- 1:01:18This one was tough for me.
- 1:01:19I really wanted to go Tampa Bay.
- 1:01:22I was just looking at the odds seven.
- 1:01:25That's a big spread right there.
- 1:01:27So but I'm going to go with the Lions.
- 1:01:30I think they'll establish the running game.
- 1:01:32They have too many weapons defense good enough.
- 1:01:36I just and I think what's they'll play a lot more.
- 1:01:40They play a lot more zone I believe.
- 1:01:43So which will take more Mike Evans out of it.
- 1:01:45It'll be a lot more Chris Godwin's is he's more typical the zone finder on that team.
- 1:01:50And when you get games where Evans is not involved that's I feel that offense slow
- 1:01:55us down a little bit.
- 1:01:56So and they established a running game against that Lions deed to stay in it.
- 1:02:00So but I'm still going to go with the Lions.
- 1:02:02I just think overall they have better talent.
- 1:02:04It's at home that place can be rocking.
- 1:02:07So sadly I think the Lions are in one another one.
- 1:02:11Yeah, no.
- 1:02:12I really don't want to have two sets of games and we're all picking the same team.
- 1:02:17But it's hard to bet against NFC North for me.
- 1:02:19Like I know we watched the Lions.
- 1:02:22We watched the Bears.
- 1:02:23We watched the Packers more than we'd like to because that's who the heck we're playing.
- 1:02:29They've done a lot to get to where they are.
- 1:02:31They're at an elite level right now.
- 1:02:33I mean they could make a run for the NFC Championship at the least.
- 1:02:36So I got to go Lions too, which is tough.
- 1:02:39I also wanted to go Tampa Bay.
- 1:02:41I like Baker Mayfield.
- 1:02:44I do like their defense a lot, but I just don't think it'll be enough this week later
- 1:02:48in the season.
- 1:02:49This is a harder pick.
- 1:02:50I think if they're seasoned, I still think the Bucs are going to win their division.
- 1:02:53I think if we're in week 12, 13, 14, I think this is a harder pick for me.
- 1:02:58And I might go Tampa Bay based on what's happened to that point.
- 1:03:01But I got to go Life.
- 1:03:02Yeah, and they played the commanders last week too.
- 1:03:04And I mean it was, I mean most of the game I felt like Tampa had that thing controlled.
- 1:03:09So and I just.
- 1:03:10It's not a true test.
- 1:03:12True.
- 1:03:13And then Rashid White averaged 2.1 yards at Carey as the leading running back for that
- 1:03:17team, which against the Lions D, that's.
- 1:03:21That's tough.
- 1:03:22And Hutchinson.
- 1:03:23Hutchinson is going to be a tough one.
- 1:03:24Even though Tampa's got some good tackles.
- 1:03:25Did you see who did the Lions play last week?
- 1:03:26Rams.
- 1:03:27Rams.
- 1:03:28Yeah.
- 1:03:29So did you see when their left tackle went down?
- 1:03:30How Hutchinson was just dominating the back of it.
- 1:03:33It was every play.
- 1:03:34It was the third stringer.
- 1:03:35That was the third stringer?
- 1:03:36The Rams were missing both of their tackles going into that game.
- 1:03:37Oh my God.
- 1:03:38And then the left tackle got hurt.
- 1:03:39So it was the third stringer.
- 1:03:40Oh my God.
- 1:03:41He ate that third stringer up.
- 1:03:42I know.
- 1:03:43Someone should make a sign for lost puppy.
- 1:03:44Oh my God.
- 1:03:45And then the left tackle got hurt.
- 1:03:46So it was the third stringer.
- 1:03:47Oh my God.
- 1:03:48He ate that third stringer up.
- 1:03:49I know.
- 1:03:50Someone should make a sign for lost puppy.
- 1:03:53It was bad.
- 1:03:54It was bad.
- 1:03:55It was that bad.
- 1:03:56Going into our fourth game and we'll just go back to normal.
- 1:04:00How we did it before Vikings game packer game and then our other three.
- 1:04:03I don't know why I tried to change it up this time.
- 1:04:05But fourth game is going to be San Francisco traveling to Minnesota.
- 1:04:10We got to find a way to get to this game because it's going to be rocking in there.
- 1:04:15Oh dang.
- 1:04:16I got to pick first.
- 1:04:17Don't I?
- 1:04:18Yeah.
- 1:04:19Well I'm going to go Vikings.
- 1:04:20Go Vikings.
- 1:04:21It is what it is.
- 1:04:22It's going to be a tough game though.
- 1:04:23Truly it's going to be a tough game.
- 1:04:25Do I think we could absolutely lose this game?
- 1:04:28Yeah for sure.
- 1:04:29For sure.
- 1:04:30Especially with how hard the Niners came out last week.
- 1:04:32I mean that should scare us.
- 1:04:35And it does.
- 1:04:36I think offensively I'm not as concerned.
- 1:04:39It sucks not having Jordan Addison though.
- 1:04:40That's going to be a big, big loss for us.
- 1:04:42But we kept six receivers for a reason.
- 1:04:45So we'll see what happens.
- 1:04:47In that regard defensively it's going to be tough.
- 1:04:50I think if CMC doesn't play now we got to deal with Mason.
- 1:04:53Is he a one hit wonder?
- 1:04:55Nobody knows.
- 1:04:56It's going to be a tough game but it's called Vikings.
- 1:05:00Yeah I mean I'd want to pick my Vikings on this one.
- 1:05:03For the sake of the pick you're not going to?
- 1:05:05I'm going 49ers on this one.
- 1:05:07Unbelievable.
- 1:05:09I mean it's going to be a tough game.
- 1:05:12There's not even a Vikings man.
- 1:05:14I mean I can say we're going to go 17-0.
- 1:05:17Yes we are.
- 1:05:18But I think it's going to be tough.
- 1:05:20The chance I think of, let me play this in a scenario where the Vikings could win.
- 1:05:24If they can turn over Purdy, like they played him last year.
- 1:05:27They got two picks on him last year.
- 1:05:29In last year's game, yes we were missing Addison this game.
- 1:05:31But last game we were also missing Justin Jefferson.
- 1:05:34So would I rather have Justin than Addison?
- 1:05:37Yes.
- 1:05:38But the key thing that we're missing is TJ Hawkinson.
- 1:05:40The guy had 11 catches against him.
- 1:05:42I thought he was the game changer for a third down convergence last year.
- 1:05:46That kept us in the game a lot.
- 1:05:48Purdy made a couple of mistakes.
- 1:05:50I think Christian McCaffrey had a fumble early in that game last year too.
- 1:05:54Just kept us in the game.
- 1:05:56But I still got to go 49ers.
- 1:05:59We also had no rushing game last year.
- 1:06:01No we didn't.
- 1:06:02Cam Akers led that game with 10 carriers 31.
- 1:06:06Madison had 8 for 39.
- 1:06:08You know so.
- 1:06:10Could be different.
- 1:06:12Aaron Jones is our new X Factor instead of Hawkinson this game.
- 1:06:15Again for the second game in a row.
- 1:06:17Some guys don't have to step up and keep the game close like they did last year to win it.
- 1:06:23A couple of fluky plays.
- 1:06:25Remember that Addison play with a pick.
- 1:06:27Stole it. 80 yard touchdown the other way.
- 1:06:29It's just stuff like that kind of happened last year.
- 1:06:32That kept us in the game.
- 1:06:35And we ended up finding a way to win.
- 1:06:37I was actually at that game last year.
- 1:06:39It was pretty. It was Monday night or Sunday night.
- 1:06:41It was pretty.
- 1:06:42Fahirah up.
- 1:06:43Yeah.
- 1:06:44Fahirah up.
- 1:06:45But sadly I got to go Niners on this one.
- 1:06:47Unbelievable.
- 1:06:48Jake let's just move on from Rob.
- 1:06:50Alright.
- 1:06:51I know you're going 49ers too.
- 1:06:53I already see it in your face.
- 1:06:54Yeah.
- 1:06:55Kind of talked about it a little bit before.
- 1:06:57I do think it's going to be a close game.
- 1:07:00So I'm not counting the Vikings out of it.
- 1:07:03But.
- 1:07:04Sam Donald was in San Francisco last year under Shanahan.
- 1:07:08So I'm sure he's got he knows some things that they'll be able to scheme against them.
- 1:07:13And it's going to come down to which quarterback doesn't make the mistake last.
- 1:07:19And like.
- 1:07:20I like that.
- 1:07:21So 49ers.
- 1:07:23Niners.
- 1:07:24Unbelievable.
- 1:07:26It's my turn then.
- 1:07:29It's no surprise that I will pick the Vikings to win this game.
- 1:07:32That boy.
- 1:07:33I will not break.
- 1:07:36It's always.
- 1:07:39I mean I liked your take.
- 1:07:40I was going to go off the same thing.
- 1:07:41I think I think with Sam Darnold actually succeeding for once in an offense in San Francisco.
- 1:07:46I think he really really took to it.
- 1:07:48Especially with you know O'Connell kind of coming from that same tree.
- 1:07:52I think I think that benefited us last year going into it.
- 1:07:57So I think I think we can we can key off that Aaron Jones having to be a hot take.
- 1:08:02And do something with it.
- 1:08:04I I just I truly think that the Vikings with the defense that I saw is going to give him a better look than than that Packers team that they played.
- 1:08:14They put the Packers right time.
- 1:08:15I set up now who get the 49ers jets.
- 1:08:18Well I think.
- 1:08:19Well OK so it's the same thing.
- 1:08:22That's what they're green.
- 1:08:25But I truly think that the Vikings defense is is is going to give him a harder look.
- 1:08:30Especially with Brock Purdy being the quarterback that he is.
- 1:08:35I think defense wins us that game.
- 1:08:37I think Sam Darnold wins us that game because he's a top 10 quarterback in the NFL.
- 1:08:41And I think him just being able to have that background with San Francisco plays a big factor.
- 1:08:46I'm just yeah man.
- 1:08:48And then maybe we can we can we can shut down Mason and then they just have to run Debo and who knows which is not a good thing either.
- 1:08:58Depends depends depends what team you're cheering for.
- 1:09:01Yeah.
- 1:09:02Debo didn't play against us last year.
- 1:09:03Correct.
- 1:09:04And I and I and I think he was a little banged up last year too.
- 1:09:07So I don't know if that has anything to do going in this year.
- 1:09:10I you looked OK.
- 1:09:12You look rusty at that drop in that diving catch.
- 1:09:15Then the Manning's are making fun of them.
- 1:09:17That's good TV.
- 1:09:19The Manning cast.
- 1:09:20Manning cast.
- 1:09:21Go Vikes man.
- 1:09:23Let's go.
- 1:09:24I hope I'm wrong.
- 1:09:25Last but not least I don't know if we really want to make the Chiefs game of the week again on Banner with the boys.
- 1:09:33Bill's Dolphins kind of make a make a case for that.
- 1:09:37But Bengals going to Kansas City Kansas City favored by six at the moment today.
- 1:09:45Yeah.
- 1:09:46I think that's not my pick first.
- 1:09:47Oh yeah.
- 1:09:49The snake fire up.
- 1:09:50All right.
- 1:09:51Here we go.
- 1:09:52I was to be honest.
- 1:09:55This one is tough for me when like if you go on on paper like who should win you would assume the Chiefs and you should pick the Chiefs.
- 1:10:06But oh but I like it.
- 1:10:09Let's let's give the Bengals a shot.
- 1:10:12Let's give him a shot.
- 1:10:13I'm gonna pick the Bengals.
- 1:10:14I don't I don't think Jamar Chase really got his full shine.
- 1:10:18I don't think T Higgins got his full shine.
- 1:10:20Burrow with his you know slim shady hair might be able to beat you know Patty.
- 1:10:26You know I think and I the one thing that concerns me with the Bengals is the running game.
- 1:10:30You got you got Zach Moss.
- 1:10:31You got who's that other guy Blake.
- 1:10:35No.
- 1:10:36Chase Brown.
- 1:10:37Chase Brown.
- 1:10:38Yeah I think that scares me.
- 1:10:40But I mean when you when you run a two backfield you really can't account for both of them.
- 1:10:44You have to you have to scheme for one.
- 1:10:47Yeah.
- 1:10:48You have to you have to scheme for both this week.
- 1:10:50Kennedy.
- 1:10:51Yeah.
- 1:10:52Yeah.
- 1:10:53Yeah.
- 1:10:54We're here for both.
- 1:10:55I just I think I think the Bengals can pull fast one on them.
- 1:10:57And I just like seeing the Chiefs lose.
- 1:10:59So that's what I mean I do too.
- 1:11:01That's what I'm just gonna roll with.
- 1:11:02Yeah.
- 1:11:03Just see the Chiefs lose.
- 1:11:04Go Bengals.
- 1:11:05What's their story is that who that is that what it is.
- 1:11:07No.
- 1:11:08No.
- 1:11:09Who that is saying.
- 1:11:10Who day.
- 1:11:11Who day.
- 1:11:12Who day.
- 1:11:13They're both dumb.
- 1:11:14Write that down.
- 1:11:15So hopefully that's another one.
- 1:11:18Jake Bengals that Chiefs are your favorite team.
- 1:11:25Yeah.
- 1:11:26Two of my two of my favorite teams can this be a tie.
- 1:11:28Can I pick a tie.
- 1:11:29No.
- 1:11:30Yes.
- 1:11:31Why.
- 1:11:32Yeah.
- 1:11:33Why can't that be.
- 1:11:34We're not making any more amendments to rules.
- 1:11:35We already made an amendment to a rule in the F1 podcast earlier.
- 1:11:38Just an easy loss for us.
- 1:11:40Makes our records look better.
- 1:11:42Yeah.
- 1:11:43Tough.
- 1:11:45Yeah.
- 1:11:46I agree with your thoughts.
- 1:11:47Bengals offense looked out of sync.
- 1:11:50They missed Joe Mixon.
- 1:11:51That running game was not great.
- 1:11:54But out of the gates the Chiefs just on Thursday night against the Ravens seemed and looked
- 1:12:01and felt like they had and knew what they were doing.
- 1:12:05And I think they're going to continue that role.
- 1:12:07So unfortunately since I can't pick a tie I'm going to take Chiefs.
- 1:12:11Chiefs for Jake.
- 1:12:15I am going down the exact same path as that last take.
- 1:12:19Joe Mixon is a huge loss for him.
- 1:12:22The running game in Mixon looked awesome down in Houston.
- 1:12:25He looked quick.
- 1:12:26He was pounding the hole.
- 1:12:29And so the Chiefs the Chiefs just saying you have too much for them.
- 1:12:35I think with Chase out of training camp they're not in sync.
- 1:12:39He had six catches on six targets.
- 1:12:41They just never got anything established that whole game.
- 1:12:45And then they lost to the New England Patriots which we considered probably one of the five
- 1:12:50worst teams in the league.
- 1:12:52But they got done.
- 1:12:53So with that nonconfidence of the Bengals right now going into that game I'm going Chiefs
- 1:13:00all day long.
- 1:13:01Chiefs for Rob.
- 1:13:02Chiefs for Rob.
- 1:13:05Oh yeah I'm keeping that same train too.
- 1:13:07I got to go Chiefs.
- 1:13:09Chiefs at home.
- 1:13:10They did enough to beat the Ravens.
- 1:13:12I think if that game had one more quarter.
- 1:13:16I'm not sure.
- 1:13:17I don't know if the Chiefs ran out of steam if they were just trying to keep everything
- 1:13:20in front of them at the end of the game or just failing at that.
- 1:13:23I just I don't know.
- 1:13:24They do make me a little nervous but I still am confident that they are going for their
- 1:13:28three Pete which means I got to take Chiefs at home against the Bengals for sure.
- 1:13:33So fun fact for those that were watching that game if that touchdown stood Harbaugh was
- 1:13:40going to go for two.
- 1:13:41Yeah he was holding up two immediately.
- 1:13:43He did not.
- 1:13:44He wanted no part.
- 1:13:45Yeah he didn't want no part of Patrick Mahomes in overtime.
- 1:13:47They would have got it.
- 1:13:48And I 100 percent agree would have agreed with that decision.
- 1:13:50They would have got it.
- 1:13:51I'd imagine it would have been some sort of Lamar Jackson option.
- 1:13:54Put the ball in his hands make let him make the decision whether to pull it keep it.
- 1:13:58Yeah I mean that.
- 1:13:59I think they win.
- 1:14:00Yeah that's.
- 1:14:01I think they would have won.
- 1:14:02I think they would have had a 20 two point conversion plays set up for Lamar in that
- 1:14:07scenario and likely just got to have smaller feet.
- 1:14:10Yeah.
- 1:14:11On feet or white shoes or white shoes or white shoes or white shoes.
- 1:14:16With that that unless you guys have any parting thoughts that you have to get out right now
- 1:14:20right this second.
- 1:14:22Nothing nothing nothing.
- 1:14:23No no.
- 1:14:24Football's back.
- 1:14:25This is.
- 1:14:26Yeah I love it.
- 1:14:27Football is back.
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