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- 1:00Speaker 1: Is where it ends.
- 1:02Speaker 2: For all, court is where it begins.
- 1:05Speaker 3: They say, no TV show, this is the real world.
- 1:09Speaker 4: And this is what's happening at the courthouse.
- 1:14Speaker 3: On KFM Mornings with Remis.
- 1:17Speaker 2: Okay, added Weinberg Courthouse yesterday.
- 1:20Speaker 5: Yes, indeed, this is where Amis.
- 1:23Speaker 2: Patrols outside and asks everybody one simple question, what.
- 1:28Speaker 5: Are you doing at the courthouse today?
- 1:30Speaker 6: We had a house robbery in twenty twenty three suspects
- 1:34Speaker 6: were court let out on bail, so when we had
- 1:36Speaker 6: to appear for the first court hearing, obviously they didn't
- 1:39Speaker 6: show up so to be re arrested. So we've got
- 1:41Speaker 6: another quartering and today we've got another postponement, and to
- 1:44Speaker 6: my surprise, they're letting some of them go free. See yep,
- 1:48Speaker 6: they're letting some off on warning who've got pending cases all.
- 1:51Speaker 7: Over the place.
- 1:52Speaker 5: No, no thing makes sense.
- 1:53Speaker 7: It doesn't make any sense to me at all.
- 1:55Speaker 6: So they'll just carry on doing what they're doing and
- 1:57Speaker 6: then hopefully they'll show up on the second.
- 2:00Speaker 5: How many guys are there?
- 2:01Speaker 2: Four?
- 2:02Speaker 5: And omni are they letting three one?
- 2:04Speaker 7: For sure?
- 2:05Speaker 6: I don't know if the others are going to be
- 2:07Speaker 6: staying custody until the second.
- 2:08Speaker 5: But what is the reason for them for letting them
- 2:11Speaker 5: let this person three is.
- 2:13Speaker 7: They've not been found guilty of anything.
- 2:15Speaker 6: I say, they've not been found guilty because you know,
- 2:18Speaker 6: we're still pending judgment from the court. And then they
- 2:21Speaker 6: have the audacity to say, if I don't show up
- 2:22Speaker 6: for the second, then they're going to arrest me.
- 2:24Speaker 8: What.
- 2:25Speaker 5: Yes, but you're a witness and it happened to you.
- 2:28Speaker 6: Yes, they broke They cut through the fence and broken
- 2:30Speaker 6: to them from no men.
- 2:32Speaker 4: You yeah, I know, give me, give me one second
- 2:36Speaker 4: year just to.
- 2:37Speaker 5: Just to like this. They told you that if you
- 2:42Speaker 5: don't come.
- 2:42Speaker 6: Up, they'll issue warrant for the rest for me and
- 2:45Speaker 6: the ad T gard who actually apprehended them.
- 2:47Speaker 4: And what you got to say, no is what it
- 2:51Speaker 4: is now, it is not what it is which just happened.
- 2:54Speaker 4: And then they might even just say no bail for you,
- 2:56Speaker 4: because you what is this word flight risk?
- 3:00Speaker 7: I have a passport team.
- 3:01Speaker 5: It doesn't matter. That's not the point. Where are these
- 3:04Speaker 5: other three.
- 3:05Speaker 7: Guys now they're still inside.
- 3:07Speaker 6: Now they're letting one or two of them off on warning,
- 3:09Speaker 6: hoping that they'll show up on the second.
- 3:12Speaker 4: Like letting them off like go out, you get you're unbailed.
- 3:15Speaker 4: Now you can walk the streets, not even bail warning,
- 3:17Speaker 4: a warning? Did they catch them on the same day?
- 3:20Speaker 6: Like, yeah, the act in the night, your neighborhood watching
- 3:22Speaker 6: adyt Okay, it co operated.
- 3:24Speaker 5: Right, and then obviously police came along.
- 3:26Speaker 7: The act with the goods that they took.
- 3:27Speaker 4: Why are they taking so long two years later to
- 3:30Speaker 4: three years almost to get rid of the.
- 3:33Speaker 7: Wheels of justice turned slowly? Clearly?
- 3:35Speaker 6: How do you feel about that little disenfranchised? I served
- 3:39Speaker 6: in the military and that's that's the reason I left
- 3:42Speaker 6: because of things operate. So yeah, I can't understand how
- 3:46Speaker 6: you can let it go off on warning. Who's got
- 3:48Speaker 6: multieveral pending trials?
- 3:51Speaker 5: Okay? What is the next court date now?
- 3:53Speaker 7: Second of Jude, don't forget that. I've just put it
- 3:56Speaker 7: in my diary.
- 3:56Speaker 5: You better you don't show up, you get locked up.
- 4:00Speaker 7: Correct.
- 4:00Speaker 6: It's a major problem with our system where they let
- 4:04Speaker 6: people out on bail the world career criminals.
- 4:06Speaker 7: It happens all the time.
- 4:07Speaker 4: He so all the best, Thank you very much for
- 4:10Speaker 4: your time. Thanks for your time, teers man. What are
- 4:12Speaker 4: you doing at the courthouse today?
- 4:14Speaker 8: I am applying for a maintenance order to get a
- 4:18Speaker 8: maintenance from my ex wife.
- 4:20Speaker 4: So that is a bit of a strange situation because
- 4:23Speaker 4: always I'm getting females that are applying for maintenance.
- 4:28Speaker 5: Why is that?
- 4:29Speaker 9: It's just the way the divorce worked outs.
- 4:31Speaker 8: The agreement in the divorce was that she would have
- 4:34Speaker 8: a year to get on her feet, get a job,
- 4:35Speaker 8: make some income, and then she needs to start contributing
- 4:38Speaker 8: to the to the children. I've got three children and
- 4:42Speaker 8: are pay for everything, and she's got to start contributing.
- 4:45Speaker 5: Yes, And then what is the court saying, you know,
- 4:47Speaker 5: like are they allowing that?
- 4:48Speaker 8: Well, I just got to do an application, I see, and
- 4:51Speaker 8: the divorce documents stipulate that she has to contribute what
- 4:56Speaker 8: she going to afford. I've tried to do it with
- 4:57Speaker 8: her personally, amicably, but she won't produce any form of
- 5:02Speaker 8: proof of what she's earning. She's saying she's not earning X,
- 5:05Speaker 8: so she can't contribute, but she's supposed to prove it.
- 5:09Speaker 9: So the only way I'm going to be able to
- 5:10Speaker 9: get proved is through the courts.
- 5:13Speaker 8: So instead of trying to just do it and look,
- 5:15Speaker 8: I'm earning X, my rent is X. What she's told me,
- 5:19Speaker 8: and I know what it is because I've had to
- 5:20Speaker 8: help a pay Wow, you know my kids are staying
- 5:23Speaker 8: there again to say, I know what her overheads are.
- 5:27Speaker 8: And if she just shows me, bank says, then I
- 5:29Speaker 8: can go okay, cool, you can't contribute?
- 5:31Speaker 5: Is she working now? She is?
- 5:33Speaker 8: And she got paid out nearly a million rand. What
- 5:36Speaker 8: she got nearly paid out a million round in the divorce.
- 5:38Speaker 8: She's blown through all the money, paid her out a
- 5:41Speaker 8: car in the divorce. I don't know what she's done
- 5:44Speaker 8: with the money. So this is the way we've got
- 5:47Speaker 8: to go.
- 5:48Speaker 5: I don't know what to say to you.
- 5:50Speaker 8: At least I can go to the court and get something,
- 5:52Speaker 8: whether it's five hundred round, one thousand round, whatever she
- 5:55Speaker 8: can afford.
- 5:55Speaker 9: She needs to start contributing.
- 5:57Speaker 5: Where's the milliona then you gave her in the divorce,
- 5:59Speaker 5: little men and.
- 6:01Speaker 9: Spent it on wolvers?
- 6:02Speaker 8: Oh wow, okay, I guess I don't know.
- 6:07Speaker 9: I didn't ask questions. I can't ask questions.
- 6:11Speaker 5: And I was the visiting rights.
- 6:13Speaker 9: Like seven days with me, seven days with her?
- 6:15Speaker 4: I see s's one week, one week okay, okay, and
- 6:18Speaker 4: you have you moved on with your.
- 6:20Speaker 8: Life slowly, but surely I didn't want the divorce. There
- 6:23Speaker 8: was an affair, she committed an affair. But slowly it's
- 6:27Speaker 8: been a year so the healing has been good. I've
- 6:31Speaker 8: been doing the work on myself.
- 6:34Speaker 9: It's not easy.
- 6:34Speaker 8: I was with her for fifteen years. Wow, so and
- 6:38Speaker 8: my kids are three, five, and seven. Came out of nowhere.
- 6:43Speaker 8: Generally I thought we had a happy marriage, but I was.
- 6:47Speaker 5: Still with this guy. Then it wasn't even worth it.
- 6:50Speaker 9: Men, Yeah, you know, I made a stupid mistake. Men,
- 6:55Speaker 9: of pause is probably adding to.
- 6:56Speaker 4: It, and she's saying that she doesn't have money to
- 7:00Speaker 4: bay maintenance.
- 7:01Speaker 8: I'm not allowed to ask those questions and don't want
- 7:03Speaker 8: to answer those questions.
- 7:05Speaker 9: It's just a little bit.
- 7:06Speaker 8: Then I get too involved, and then I get told
- 7:08Speaker 8: that I'm trying to control, or then I get too
- 7:11Speaker 8: attached emotionally, and then I want to help because I'm sorry.
- 7:15Speaker 9: So rather just don't ask those questions.
- 7:17Speaker 4: So yeah, to be honest with you, I feel for you, men,
- 7:20Speaker 4: and I hope that the courts you can would be
- 7:22Speaker 4: able to help you.
- 7:22Speaker 5: So all the best. Thank you very much for your time.
- 7:25Speaker 9: Thank you.
- 7:27Speaker 2: Sounds like a good guy, but you're on a defendant,
- 7:30Speaker 2: a ex wife defendant b woolworths.
- 7:36Speaker 5: Wool Worth catching strays.
- 7:40Speaker 1: You know, as someone who's both fought for women's rights
- 7:43Speaker 1: and sometimes women's wrongs, I cannot support how wrong that
- 7:48Speaker 1: woman is. Seems to just be in a very selfish phase.
- 7:52Speaker 5: At the moment.
- 7:53Speaker 2: Yeah, trying to make the dude hurt you.
- 7:56Speaker 9: You can't.
- 7:57Speaker 1: I mean, blowing through millions, not wanting to contribute for
- 8:01Speaker 1: the kids, not showing.
- 8:03Speaker 2: Up and you know, and it's the thing is, she
- 8:08Speaker 2: was the one that cheated, so you know what it
- 8:11Speaker 2: wasn't It's not like she wants to pay him back
- 8:13Speaker 2: for something he did. I know he has a message
- 8:16Speaker 2: yet quickly that lady must have spent that Berlin ran
- 8:19Speaker 2: on Woody's vows.
- 8:26Speaker 3: But you know, it's so often where people now suddenly
- 8:29Speaker 3: have access to amounts of money they not used to
- 8:33Speaker 3: and they blow it. I'm sure even if you asked her,
- 8:36Speaker 3: chances are she trying.
- 8:38Speaker 2: To tell you how she blew that money. No, well,
- 8:40Speaker 2: you know it talks about the evers. For me, it's
- 8:44Speaker 2: the watermelon cut in such neat six pieces.
- 8:49Speaker 5: You and the love affair with the watermelon.
- 8:50Speaker 2: I'll tell you, I'm on a watermelon Finch. It's like
- 8:54Speaker 2: it's like a it's a meal and a drink.
- 8:57Speaker 5: All advice, Darren.
- 8:58Speaker 2: Oh, where when you.
- 9:00Speaker 4: Blow your millions and it falls watermelon ic tangles?
- 9:05Speaker 2: Tell me REMI I club the pips and alice. You
- 9:08Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. And then I see a whole
- 9:10Speaker 2: watermelon there and no, I'm not planning that thing. So
- 9:14Speaker 2: you said, James, you can cut your fingers off of
- 9:16Speaker 2: the watermelon whatever? Right now? Do you know what you're saying?
- 9:18Speaker 1: You understand the woman and her decision.
- 9:21Speaker 2: Making, absolutely not at all on her side. I just
- 9:25Speaker 2: understand how quickly you can blow through that money. And yeah,
- 9:33Speaker 2: hey hey Papa, sure there's a lot there. All right,
- 9:37Speaker 2: we'll wait for your comments now on wait two nine
- 9:40Speaker 2: four five zero nine four zero KFE mornings. Good job, Remis,
- 9:44Speaker 2: Thank you really much. Six minutes to eight o'clock. Prank
- 9:48Speaker 2: coming up in about fifteen minutes time. Your comments from
- 9:51Speaker 2: what's happening at the courthouse with ramis, Oh, just.
- 9:55Speaker 6: The system is so based up and this is.
- 9:58Speaker 7: Why people think into their own hands.
- 10:01Speaker 2: Just a nice story with that robbery.
- 10:02Speaker 9: Have heard of cases like that before? Car hasat free?
- 10:05Speaker 5: Can you believe it?
- 10:06Speaker 9: In the victims are being sued if they don't show up.
- 10:10Speaker 2: I'm so sorry that first guy gave up. The justice
- 10:15Speaker 2: system just does an out person, they say, and the
- 10:18Speaker 2: second guy.
- 10:19Speaker 1: They always think it's the days, it's always the furthest
- 10:23Speaker 1: but sometimes it's.
- 10:24Speaker 3: The monster men divorces. She's loving our best life and
- 10:31Speaker 3: limit all your menopause brothers.
- 10:34Speaker 5: Got nothing to.
- 10:35Speaker 4: Do with it.
- 10:36Speaker 5: You'd be thinking you'd be out here thinking about.
- 10:38Speaker 2: Your children, especially at that end of age.
- 10:41Speaker 3: Nah, she must the court must demand that document so
- 10:45Speaker 3: that she can start contributing.
- 10:47Speaker 2: You can't be out yellowing your best life. And I'm
- 10:50Speaker 2: with you.
- 10:52Speaker 4: She had an affair and you still had to give
- 10:54Speaker 4: her a million.
- 10:56Speaker 2: That's wild.
- 10:58Speaker 1: I'm learning so much from home robberies where the victims
- 11:02Speaker 1: can now also end up in jail to you know,
- 11:06Speaker 1: divorce proceedings.
- 11:07Speaker 2: Where the victim becomes the villain.
- 11:09Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're not obliged to take care of your kids.
- 11:13Speaker 3: A light happening at the courts.
- 11:15Speaker 2: He Sometimes you feel like you're like, where do I
- 11:19Speaker 2: turn for help? Eh?
- 11:21Speaker 1: Because really, the courts aren't possibly your last resort.
- 11:24Speaker 2: And let me tell you the reality is, you want
- 11:25Speaker 2: to take somebody to the hard court. Hard court is
- 11:28Speaker 2: generally if you say it's a civil case and you're
- 11:31Speaker 2: taking somebody for over four hundred thousand ran, then then
- 11:34Speaker 2: it goes to the High Court. Right you do lodge
- 11:39Speaker 2: that today with your lawyer, four or five years time,
- 11:43Speaker 2: it will see a court room five years time. Like
- 11:49Speaker 2: I say, you know, the wills have justice turned very slowly.
- 11:51Speaker 2: By that time you've forgotten the detail. You're over. It
- 11:56Speaker 2: moves on. You know, lawyer's fees are in the millions already.
- 12:00Speaker 2: And you know, like I say, the cheapest lawyer is compromise.
- 12:07Speaker 2: But that lady ain't compromising. She's just blown all the cash. Yeah, okay,