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MNF Recap, NFC Playoff Picture, Top 10 of 2024 NFL Draft & Week 13 Rookie Draft · Best of the NFL Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.
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  Speaker 2: What's up everybody?
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to move to stacks, DJ, Bucky Rhett back with
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  Speaker 1: you and a lot of ground we've got to cover today. Boys, Buck,
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  Speaker 1: I love you representing the high school there with the
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  Speaker 1: Grenada Hills Charter sweatshirt. By the way, Buck, Rhett, Happy
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  Speaker 1: Eagles Niners week, by the way, I just want to
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  Speaker 1: wish you a very early happy Let's how we doing?
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  Speaker 2: Is that all we're talking about today? Eagles? We're gonna
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  Speaker 2: save that, We're gonna save this. We're gonna table that
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  Speaker 2: for for later in the week.
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  Speaker 1: But we'll have plenty of the game coming up later
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  Speaker 1: in the week, which is something we've been pointing to
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  Speaker 1: for a long time.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, let's let's get this thing started.
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  Speaker 3: Though.
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  Speaker 1: Let's jump into what we saw last night. This is
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  Speaker 1: uh the Monday night recap in a game that I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna be honest, not the most esthetically pleasing game. I
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  Speaker 1: think the maybe the this shine came off a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Buck On on what had been a great story with
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  Speaker 1: Josh turned it over a bunch in this game and
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  Speaker 1: the Bears find their way.
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  Speaker 2: To the winner circle, what was your takeaway.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, my takeaway is the Bears playing well on the
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  Speaker 3: Matt Everflus. The one thing that you have to admire
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  Speaker 3: is that he's been able to keep this team together.
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  Speaker 3: This is a team that was kind of left for dead,
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  Speaker 3: didn't think that they were going to be able to
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  Speaker 3: kind of make it down the stretch. But they played
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  Speaker 3: with great effort, great energy, and the execution has gotten
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  Speaker 3: better every week. And from a defensive standpoint, this is
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  Speaker 3: a team. They want to see ball, get ball, and
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  Speaker 3: sometimes the zones and stuff that they play can really
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  Speaker 3: mess with a quarterback. And we saw they were able
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  Speaker 3: to get after Josh Dobbs. They made light miserable for
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  Speaker 3: him because they did a really good job of tracking
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  Speaker 3: his eyes and making plays. And when the Bears bring
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  Speaker 3: the energy and the effort that we saw on Monday night,
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  Speaker 3: they have a chance to win, particularly when they get
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  Speaker 3: contributions from their offense.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think looking at this and I
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  Speaker 4: think we can all appreciate and respect of the work
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  Speaker 4: that Josh Dobbs has done over his career, right, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: coming in in some really difficult situations, going back to
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  Speaker 4: last year or at Tennessee, you know this year at Arizona,
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  Speaker 4: in the first couple of weeks here in Minnesota, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: played really good, you know football for a team that
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  Speaker 4: really needed and was desperate at the quarterback spot. But
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  Speaker 4: you know, like I think that, as Bucky mentioned, the
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  Speaker 4: shine does start to come off a little bit. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: you look at what happened in Arizona at the end,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, through three interceptions. At his last two games,
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  Speaker 4: there was minimized in the run game, kind of like
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  Speaker 4: he was in this game and you see four interceptions.
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  Speaker 5: Obviously that sticks out.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know that one of them bounce right off
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  Speaker 4: Jordan Adison's hands, you know, another one was really close.
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  Speaker 4: So like, I don't think it was like this four
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  Speaker 4: interception debacle that maybe it can get painted at if
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  Speaker 4: you're just looking.
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  Speaker 5: At the box score.
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  Speaker 4: But I think what happens is when you have a
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  Speaker 4: defense that can limit the way that he's able to
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  Speaker 4: affect the game with his athleticism. He even talked about
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  Speaker 4: it afterwards, like they did a great job in their
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  Speaker 4: rush lanes kind of maintaining discipline, not really allowing him
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  Speaker 4: to create the way he does. And I just he's
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  Speaker 4: not the type of player otherwise he'd been starting for
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  Speaker 4: the last six years to win that way when he
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  Speaker 4: can't use that piece of his game and be that
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  Speaker 4: consistent that a team like this in the Vikings play
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  Speaker 4: without Justin Jefferson really needs so dj I just I
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  Speaker 4: feel like the luster does start to come off a
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  Speaker 4: little bit the more that you see of it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, to me, the keys there are you
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  Speaker 1: touched on it. It's it's accuracy, it's protecting the football,
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  Speaker 1: and then it's using your legs to add to it.
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  Speaker 1: So when you only carry the ball two times for
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  Speaker 1: eleven yards in this game, you eliminate that obviously. The
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  Speaker 1: turnovers and I look, the one did hit Addison literally
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  Speaker 1: almost in the face, so you don't put all of
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  Speaker 1: them on him. But he didn't do a good job
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  Speaker 1: protecting the ball. The accuracy was okay, he was fine there.
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  Speaker 1: He was almost seventy percent in this game, sixty nine percent.
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  Speaker 1: So I was thinking going into this game and Buck,
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  Speaker 1: I'll get it over to you on this one, that
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  Speaker 1: the decision that Vikings could have with Kirk Cousins being up,
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  Speaker 1: both these guys being up, you could make a case
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  Speaker 1: before this game kicked off that the Vikings had the
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  Speaker 1: two most promising, most attractive free agent quarterbacks in next
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  Speaker 1: year's market, Like there was a chance both those guys
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  Speaker 1: find hefty paydays. And I thought the Vikings might have
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  Speaker 1: to make a decision. Do we want to bring Cousins back? No,
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  Speaker 1: you know, north of forty pushing fifty million a year,
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  Speaker 1: or would you know, could we get Dobbs on maybe
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  Speaker 1: a twenty you know, kind of that lower tier quarterback
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  Speaker 1: dollars And say, man, you know, I don't know Dobbs
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  Speaker 1: the way he'd been playing. Maybe Dobbs well after this game, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think that you're the Vikings.
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  Speaker 2: You can let Kirk Cousins walk out of.
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  Speaker 5: That building to you.
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  Speaker 3: So it just depends like the team building model, right,
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  Speaker 3: and so like if you pay Kirk now you're talking
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  Speaker 3: about fifty plus million dollars in you know, how good
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  Speaker 3: is he going to be for you in terms of
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  Speaker 3: getting over the top when you pay him that much money?
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  Speaker 6: Because you're also limited in other areas.
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  Speaker 3: We Josh Dobbs is trying to find what is the
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  Speaker 3: sweet point, the sweet spot in terms of how much
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  Speaker 3: he should get. He's about twenty million, maybe's a ten.
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  Speaker 3: Where does he fall in between. That'd be an interesting conversation,
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  Speaker 3: or do they go to the draft. The one thing
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  Speaker 3: about the Vikings is they made themselves competitive where they
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  Speaker 3: were in the conversation of.
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  Speaker 6: Being in the post the postseason.
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  Speaker 3: Now they have to figure out, Okay, are we good
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  Speaker 3: enough to get in the tournament or is this where
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  Speaker 3: we are?
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  Speaker 6: We fall back.
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  Speaker 3: We now get the pick and kind of focus our
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  Speaker 3: efforts on getting the young guys ready for next year.
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  Speaker 3: It'll be interesting to see what kind of determination Kevin
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  Speaker 3: O'Connell and the staff makes as they go forward.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and one real quick, Rhett, you know the age
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  Speaker 1: of Kirk Cousins in his mid thirties, but this injury
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  Speaker 1: is the first injury he's had alto This is the
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  Speaker 1: first practice he's missed.
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  Speaker 2: And see was a sophomore high school, so he's been
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  Speaker 2: extremely durable.
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  Speaker 1: And with a quarterback who's not really you know, an
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  Speaker 1: athletic move guy, I think the achilles isn't going to
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  Speaker 1: be as big of a detriment or as big a
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  Speaker 1: concern coming off that injury for a guy like him.
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  Speaker 5: I think that's a good point too.
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  Speaker 4: And we also have to watch, you know, what happens
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  Speaker 4: with the Justin Jefferson contract that's going to command you know,
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  Speaker 4: close to thirty million.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, he'll be in the twenty five million with.
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  Speaker 4: The way that that he's you know, established himself as
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  Speaker 4: one of, if not the best receiver in football right now.
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  Speaker 5: So you know, how does that work out with Cousins.
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  Speaker 4: But if you believe what you heard on the broadcast,
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  Speaker 4: I mean you had Joe Buck talking about their meeting
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  Speaker 4: with Kevin O'Connell and that he was desperate to bring
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  Speaker 4: Kirk Cousins back next year and wants to figure out
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  Speaker 4: a way to make it work. So I think that's
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  Speaker 4: probably still the best course forward here for the Minnesota Vikings.
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  Speaker 2: Teach, have no doubt. Look at that. We squeezed the
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  Speaker 2: nice conversation out of a terrible football game. We done.
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  Speaker 2: Well done, everybody, Well done. All right, let's keep the
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  Speaker 2: train moving here.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get to the NFC playoff picture, and I want
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  Speaker 1: to focus on a couple teams that are in the
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  Speaker 1: hut there. When you look at the Green Bay Packers
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  Speaker 1: at five and six, the Rams five and six as well,
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  Speaker 1: I want to.
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  Speaker 2: Focus really on those two.
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  Speaker 1: You see the Minnesota Vikings, they're holding that last spot
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  Speaker 1: at six and six.
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  Speaker 2: But Buck, when you look at Green Bay.
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  Speaker 1: And you look at the Los Angeles Rams, you know,
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  Speaker 1: green Bay, I'd say expectations, even with Jordan Love taking
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  Speaker 1: over for Aaron Rodgers, They're probably around where the expectations were.
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  Speaker 1: I would say the Rams have exceeded expectations for where
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  Speaker 1: they are. Both these teams right in the mix for
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  Speaker 1: playoff spots. Who do you trust more between those two?
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  Speaker 6: I'm gonna trust the Green Bay Packers more.
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  Speaker 3: The Green Bay Packers have more talent at the other
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  Speaker 3: positions outside of quarterback and Aaron Dawell. When you look
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  Speaker 3: at this defense, they have enough playmakers on defense to
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  Speaker 3: get after Rashan Garry is playing really really well, being
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  Speaker 3: able to get after the pass or defensively the beginning
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  Speaker 3: to kind of find their identity under Joe Berry, and
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  Speaker 3: then offensively, the young playmakers have a synergy and a
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  Speaker 3: connection with Jordan Love that has given them an opportunity
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  Speaker 3: to kind of find their way as an offense. Matla
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  Speaker 3: Floyd has to be pleased with the progress of the
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  Speaker 3: young guys. I just trust this team, and I just
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  Speaker 3: trust that they gonna find a way to get it done.
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  Speaker 3: I look for them to be the seventh seed when
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  Speaker 3: it's all said and done.
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  Speaker 2: At the end of the season.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's hard for me not to choose the Rams here.
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  Speaker 4: I think that they've done a really good job accentuating
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  Speaker 4: their weapons offensively, as Sean McVay and Michael flour can
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  Speaker 4: always do, right. I think you trust the quarterback obviously,
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  Speaker 4: I think more than anybody in that wildcard discussion here
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  Speaker 4: with Matthew Stafford. You know, win healthy again, throws four
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  Speaker 4: touchdowns this last game. But in addition to that and
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  Speaker 4: what we've seen from Pookakakua this year and obviously Cooper Cup,
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  Speaker 4: you know, still one of the very best. But Kyrin
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  Speaker 4: Williams I think is a difference maker for this team
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  Speaker 4: and their commitment to run the football and ability to
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  Speaker 4: execute chunk plays in the run game. We don't talk
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  Speaker 4: about seventeen carries one hundred and forty eight yards like
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  Speaker 4: that's not just three clouds in or three yards in
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  Speaker 4: a cloud of dust. Like They're finding ways to impact
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  Speaker 4: the game both on the ground and then with a
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  Speaker 4: number of weapons. In the past game, we saw Tyler
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  Speaker 4: Hickbee get back involved in a big way this past week.
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  Speaker 4: So like They've got a lot on offense. I will
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  Speaker 4: agree with Bucky DJ that the Packers probably had the
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  Speaker 4: edge in terms of totality and talent on the defensive
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  Speaker 4: side of the ball. They're getting a lot of those
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  Speaker 4: injured dbs back now, But I still trust Matthew Stafford,
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  Speaker 4: Sean McVay and the Rams the most out of that group.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking at the schedule for the Rams guys,
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  Speaker 1: and if we assume nine and eight most likely gets
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  Speaker 1: you in in the NFC for that last Wildcards. But
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  Speaker 1: I believe when you kind of look at the schedules
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  Speaker 1: and how this whole thing shakes out, so that means
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  Speaker 1: you look at their schedule for the remaining schedule for
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  Speaker 1: the Rams, Cleveland with backup quarterback, I feel like that's
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  Speaker 1: a win at Baltimore is that they're not going to
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  Speaker 1: win that game, so we'll give him a loss there.
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  Speaker 1: But outside of that, then you go Washington, New Orleans,
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  Speaker 1: the Giants, and then the last week of the season
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  Speaker 1: at San Francisco, who might have whatever seen they are
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  Speaker 1: wrapped up like the Rams are going.
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  Speaker 2: To win nine and maybe even ten games. So it's incredible.
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  Speaker 1: It's a testament to what coaching and teaching does when
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  Speaker 1: you have a talented quarterback that can kind of handle
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  Speaker 1: things there, but then you just draft so many young
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  Speaker 1: players you've had to purge this roster that buck. I
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  Speaker 1: think the underrated aspect is development and teaching at the
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  Speaker 1: NFL level. There's very few teams that do it well.
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  Speaker 1: I'd probably count on one hand. I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: anybody does it better than Sean McVay and his staff.
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  Speaker 3: Hey give him credit, man, because there are a lot
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  Speaker 3: of people that weren't worried about him checking out, like
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  Speaker 3: not having all the weapons available with this team being
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  Speaker 3: in a rebuild, did he have the wherewithal to kind
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  Speaker 3: of stick through it and grind out to get this
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  Speaker 3: team back to a place where they're not only respectable,
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  Speaker 3: but they're competitive and they can be a playoff contender.
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  Speaker 2: Pass off to him because he did it.
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  Speaker 7: And I don't know if many of us thought that
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  Speaker 7: he had d like the mentality to be able to
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  Speaker 7: do it. But they've done it, and the young players
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  Speaker 7: that they've been able to develop over time, the guys
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  Speaker 7: that have been third round or later that have come
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  Speaker 7: in and made major contributions. Being able to kind of
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  Speaker 7: get those guys on the field.
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  Speaker 3: Being unafraid to play them and give them opportunities to
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  Speaker 3: kind of work through those mistakes. The Rams are there
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  Speaker 3: reaping the benefits of being kind of bold when it
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  Speaker 3: came to putting those guys on the field. Because the
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  Speaker 3: young guys are playing well, and because you have Matthew Stafford,
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  Speaker 3: a quarterback that has played at a high level in
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  Speaker 3: this league, he is being able to kind of guide
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  Speaker 3: them to this winn circle is working really really well
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  Speaker 3: in LA.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no question.
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  Speaker 1: Let's give less sneed a lot of love there as
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  Speaker 1: well for the job he's done of identifying players that
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  Speaker 1: are coachable and have some upside and they've been able
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  Speaker 1: to tap into that. All right, let's jump into speaking
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  Speaker 1: of the draft, jump into the top ten if the
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  Speaker 1: season ended right now, Here's what we're looking at, Picks
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  Speaker 1: one through ten. How about the Bears, even with the
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  Speaker 1: win last night, they're picking one in four.
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  Speaker 2: The Patriots are sitting right there at three.
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  Speaker 1: They are not out of the mix to get to
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  Speaker 1: the number one overall pick when this is all said
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  Speaker 1: and done. Got the Cardinals there at too, The Giants, five, Commanders, Titans, Jets, Bucks, Chargers. Man,
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have been shocked if you'd have told me
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  Speaker 1: before the year the Chargers would have a top ten pick.
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  Speaker 1: But here we are at this point in time. Interesting decision.
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  Speaker 2: Rhtt.
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  Speaker 1: I'll kick it over to you on this one, because
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  Speaker 1: we're going to have a full spring of this discussion.
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  Speaker 1: If the Bears end up holding a number one overall pick,
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  Speaker 1: which the way Carolina has gone and firing Frank Reich,
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  Speaker 1: it kind of looks like they're the favorite here to
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  Speaker 1: hold onto this thing. We're going to have a spring
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: of the Do they keep fields, do they trade fields?
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  Speaker 1: What do they do at the quarterback position? Do they
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  Speaker 1: trade one of these picks? Do they just take whoever
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  Speaker 1: the quarterbacks are that come out. We don't know those
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  Speaker 1: names just yet. We have a pretty good idea, but
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  Speaker 1: I thought it would be interesting exercise if we went
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  Speaker 1: back and looked at the Jets.
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  Speaker 2: I think of a team that had a similar decision.
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  Speaker 1: The Jets having Sam Donald in the fold and then
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  Speaker 1: having a top pick. They had to make the decision, right,
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  Speaker 1: It was do we stick with Sam Donald going forward?
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  Speaker 1: Or do we and we trade Sam Donald? Get what
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  Speaker 1: you can get, and you look at the numbers side
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  Speaker 1: by side, it's not all that different when you look
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  Speaker 1: at the Donald and the Justin Fields numbers, total touchdowns
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  Speaker 1: very close fifty to forty six, the giveaways Donald a
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  Speaker 1: little bit higher there, the passer ratings somewhat comparable, But
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  Speaker 1: that was a decision that Jets had to make. We
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  Speaker 1: know what they did and how it worked out. What's
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  Speaker 1: your early take on the Bears here.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think also you know, you throw the rushing
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  Speaker 4: numbers in there for Justin Fields, and that that that
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  Speaker 4: you know that look in that comparison with with Donald
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  Speaker 4: probably takes on a different shape. Although it was total
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  Speaker 4: touchdowns also, and they're not just passing touchdowns. It tells
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  Speaker 4: you that Darnall found a little bit more success through
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  Speaker 4: the air than Justin Fields has in those few years.
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  Speaker 4: I think he's done a better job at taking care
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  Speaker 4: of the football in the last few weeks and he
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  Speaker 4: hasn't thrown an interception and in his time back since
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  Speaker 4: the injury. But you know, those first couple of weeks,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it was it was ugly, right, and so
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  Speaker 4: I appreciate the fact that they they've found a way
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  Speaker 4: to limit that a little bit while still keeping some
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  Speaker 4: of what makes him dangerous in the game.
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  Speaker 5: Plan.
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  Speaker 4: I think he's found a really nice connection with Cole
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  Speaker 4: Command and Dj Moore. Now does that show you enough
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  Speaker 4: that all right? If we add another piece with one
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  Speaker 4: of those high draft picks. Shoot, if we get Marvin Harrison,
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  Speaker 4: you kidd me, you know, bring him back, bring the
• 13:29
  Speaker 4: Buckeyes back together down there in Chicago. Like, do we
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  Speaker 4: see Justin Fields take another step at another level? I
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  Speaker 4: think that's something that you know, you also that we're
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  Speaker 4: always going to be just a little bit behind on
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  Speaker 4: because we're not seeing it every day in practice, not
• 13:43
  Speaker 4: seeing that tape every day in practice. Well, you know,
• 13:45
  Speaker 4: we're seeing the games, and obviously that's a big piece
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  Speaker 4: of it. But you know how the Bears view his
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  Speaker 4: daily weekly and you know, monthly improvement this season obviously
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  Speaker 4: plays a huge role in what they're going to do
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  Speaker 4: at the quarterback spot. Because at this point, Bucky, what
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  Speaker 4: are we looking at if you try to put Justin
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  Speaker 4: Fields on the block.
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  Speaker 5: You think, is it is a team gonna give you
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  Speaker 5: a first round er? I'm probably not. I mean, you're
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  Speaker 5: probably looking at what a Day two pick at this point?
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  Speaker 5: If you yeah, go ahead, days.
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Well I'm
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: gonna tell you exactly. If we're going to the Donald comparison.
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: Donald went for a this year six and next year's
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: two and a four, So a combination of a two
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: of four and a six. And you remember, because the
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: Montes sweat trade, they don't have a two, So you
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: recoup a two, you get a four.
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: And a six.
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: That's I mean, And we could argue, I mean, Buck,
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: you give me your opinion on this. Do you get
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: more than they got for Sam Donald? I think that
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: was a pretty nice return at that point in time.
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: I agree, Yeah, So you think about the return.
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: So you're talking about three picks, three picks to continue
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: to help you fortify the roster. As a draft d
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: A guy who leans in the draft rampos is probably
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: going to lean towards maybe moving on from justin fields.
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: The real debate comes from this justin fields versus whichever
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: quarterback comes out and let's just say uh for conversations.
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: Standpoint Kayleb Williams and Drake may come out is being
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: able to look at justin fields where he was and
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: where he is now versus what's behind door number one
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: and door number two. The one thing that we don't
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: know is We've been excited about quarterback classes the last
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: three years, but we really haven't seen many of those
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: guys pop like we anticipated when we were doing the
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: draft thing? Does that cloud the evaluation when the Bears
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: are thinking about, Okay, here's what we know, what we have,
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: here's what we're.
• 15:28
  Speaker 6: Hoping to get.
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: What is more likely to continue to play at the
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: level that we need for our team to get back
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: into playoff contention.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: That's a hard thing.
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: Because there's so many unknowns when it comes to not
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: only justin fields, but what this quarterback class is really
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: going to bring down the line.
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: Well, I think there's also an unknown DJ. I know
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: we're to get to the Kyler Murray case, which is
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: kind of similar here as the Cardinals prepare their draft plans,
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: but they're more solidified and what they're going to do
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: with their coaching structure, right, Like, do we know do
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: we feel like we know what the Bears are going
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: to do with Matt Eberfah and Luke Getzi in that
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: crew there? I know it's it's been early in that
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: tenuere but still, I mean, you know, we just saw
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: Frank Reich, you know, go out the door after eleven
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: games so.
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: Early, and I don't know is really a factor in
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: this thing. So if you have an.
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: Opportunity to recreate a coaching staff and then draft you know,
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: a player who you believe will be a franchise changer
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: and let those two, you know, grow together, that might
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: be too hard for Poles to pass up.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to get to Arizona, though, if we change,
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: let's still just mention them.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: Look at these Listen to these assets.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: Right now draft takes place, the Arizona Cardinals are picking two,
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: they're picking seventeen thirty four, and then in the third
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: round they're picking sixty six, seventy.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: Two, eighty one. They've got three threes.
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: They got two twenty and the three threes.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: They've got two fours, two fives, A six and three.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: I mean they have three steps. They have a bazillion picks.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: And with Kyler Murray, he's not I mean they're committed.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: They're going forward with Kyle Murray. The numbers here, we
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: have research.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: Pull it up. It's like, what is it.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: It's eighty one point five million in dead money in
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: twenty fourth they cut him forty six million.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: If they treat.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: Him, you stay committed to him and then Buck. Right
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: now you've got the number two pick. I mean, well,
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: this is a way early draftscuession. We could go along
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: ways on this, but I mean Marvin Harrison junior Buck
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: in a comparison that I had when I watched him
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: to Larry Fitzgerald, You get your Larry Fitzgerald with the
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: second pick, or you could auction it off if you
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: wanted to. In a perfect scenario, the team that picks three,
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: you could you could try and negotiate and get a
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: little something to slide down one pick. If they're going
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: to take the quarterbacks, Say it's the Patriots and we
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: know they need a quarterback. Maybe you even get an
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: extra pick or two. But of all the teams in
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: this draft, as great as it is, the Bears are
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: picking one and four. The Arizona Cardinals, already knowing that
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: we believe they're committed to Kyler Murray, they have the
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: most advantageous position in the entire draft.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Cardinals have a lot that they can do,
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: a lot that they can work with fulling on board
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: with them bringing Kyler murrayback. He's played better sentence, he's
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: return he appears to have kind of ingratiated himself to
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: his teammates in terms of showing a better attitude around
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: the locker room and those things. If you have an
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: opportunity to build, and you're hoping that the draft gives
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: you what you need in terms of the needs that
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: you have match up with the strengths of the draft,
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: and so you not only talk about a Marvin Harrison
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: junior a playmaker on the outside, but being able to
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: beef up the offensive in defensive lines, which is necessary
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: in a division that is one that is won by
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: the trench Warriors. The Cardinals have plenty of picks to
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: be able to do that. So this is an opportunity
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: for them to dig in the draft. And we saw
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: how the turnarounds happened in Seattle when they went all
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: in on the young players, hit on their picks and
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: then put them right back in the tournament. Theirs on
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: the Cardinals will have an opportunity to orchestrate a similar
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: turnaround if they get it right on draft deck.
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and it does make a lot of sense to,
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: you know, to kind of run this back here. Look, Kyler,
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: I think probably had his worst game out of the
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: three since he's been back. I thought he made that
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: team dangerous again, and again that team still has a
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: lot of room to grow in terms of overall talent,
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: you know, on the offensive side, especially on the defensive side.
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: So you use some of that.
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: Draft capital to help supplement a player we've seen lead
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: this team, you know within a breath of the postseason. Man,
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: it feels like they've got some good young coaching there too,
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: that that's kind of tried to get the most out
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: of players like a Josh Dobbs, who made that that
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: offense competitive in every game they played, you know, for
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: the most part this season. I think that that could
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: go a long way. And you've probably and from all
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: the reports right that we've heard, like Kyler's been terrific
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: with this new staff seems to really like him. And
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: then there's a lot of good back and forth there
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: that could be pretty dangerous in that NFC West if
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: they're able to really maximize all those draft assets.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: DJ.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, look, we talked about a mixture
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: of young and old, right, There's you got three third
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: round pick. Do you easily spend one of those off
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: for a veteran player that you like, You know, you
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: have the room to squeez him in underr salary. There's
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: a lot of different things they can do. A ton
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: of flexibility here for the Arizona Cardinals. In fact, in
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: the spring, I think this is going to be a
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: team we spend a lot of time focusing on because
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: they can use the next few months to transform their
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: entire team. So it'll be fascinating to watch what the
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals do as we head towards the NFL Draft.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: All Right, we're gonna take a little break. When we
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: come back, we are going to jump into the rookie draft.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Looks like walk hat a rebound weekend. He's back in business.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Baby. We'll get into that right after this.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: We do this each and every week.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: We have our rookie draft where we like to pick
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: a quarterback, a running back, and then a pass catching weapon.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Solid week from me. He got six points last week
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: courtesy a. CJ. Stroud and Za Flowers. Buck had a
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: big bounce back.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: All three of his guys scored, with dtr quarterback getting
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: the second place finish. Bjon went in the running back
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: competition tanked Dell second, and the pass catcher's Rhett he
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: got a second place finished there with Gibbs at the
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: running back spot. So I'm holding on to first place,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: but I feel like we're a little bunched up now.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: It's a it's a tight race and uh and Buck,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: it made up a lot of ground. So Buck made
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: a great had a great week. And your reward bucket
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: as you get to pick first today, buddy, congratulations.
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: Oh that's easy enough.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: See dat come on down?
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: Dang again.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: I knew that that was quick.
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: We need to bed this is easy.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: Yes, that leaves me Bijeon with a huge bounce back
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: this last week with the two touchdowns, or Jamiir Gibbs,
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: who's been on fire lately. I actually like the match
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: up better with the Saints. So give me Jamiir Gibbs
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: Lions taking on the Saints this Sunday.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: All right, you're gonna go with Gibbs. All right, that's
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: gonna leave me.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Gosh, I'm so conflicted up where to go here?
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: What we conflicted about?
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna go Tank Dell with
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: my first pick. I get two picks here, so I'm
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: gonna go tank Dell. And then I'm also gonna go
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: with Bijon. So that that takes care of that for me.
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I had to do it.
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: That's how the first four picks basically gone. I feel
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: like in some subway.
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: Shape more over the last few weeks.
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: Right right, So I'm back up and I am gonna
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna stack them this week. Boys, I'm going Sammy
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: Laporta as my receiver here. So I got Gibbs and
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: Laporta for the Lions offense getting back on track against
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: the Saints this week.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: Okay, well, I know the Baltimore Raven's on the by week,
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: so Za Flowers is off the board. Let's go with
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: We're thinking about Jordan Addison as a pass catcher that
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: we need.
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: Uh running backs, he's got to buy. Jordan Addison is
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: on the buy two.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Like my god, Yeah, yeah, you got You've got like Pooka, Nakua,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: You've got ming Jade Reid, Uh.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: Josh down and let's go with Jano one.
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah no, I was, I was thinking about Jayden, but.
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: We go Pooka.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: I stayed with the brand names. I stayed with the
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: brand names in Pooka. And then I need a running back.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: I need a running back. Who else is on buy?
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah? We got a lot of guys on buys.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: We have gosh, well you know what, well we got
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: running back wise, Yeah, Jill.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: You got sharbon a Sharon Charone.
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: You are a big nice a nice oki buttery sharp.
• 23:33
  Speaker 6: But that's fine.
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: Wow, already, who's so it's me?
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Oh no, yeah, no, yeah, you're up.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: You're up, You're up right.
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's all right. You have only been doing
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: it twelve weeks.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: So sorry, I've gotta I've got to give my quarterback
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: here and I've got my my pick of the letter.
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: I just I can't do. I can't do Bryce Young
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: against the Bucks. Oh, I can't do it. I'm not
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: ready for that yet, although maybe they get the bump
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: with with all the change.
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: I don't know if dtr I I gotta go Will Levis,
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: I gotta go Will Levis, Will.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: Levis, Titans, Mayo and my coffee, Golts, Mayo and my coffee.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Sometimes some calories are okay, all right, you guys. Uh,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: this guy's taking a lot of abuse. It's not been
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: a great year. Just lost his coach, just lost a
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: couple other coaches. Uh, but we're gonna go with the
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: the the new coach bounce for Bryce young for my
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: last pick. So everybody's scared of him. I'm gonna embrace
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: him this week. I'm gonna say as his best game
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: as a pro against a good defense in Tampa Bay.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: Do I feel great about it?
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: No? I don't. Okay, I don't feel grit about it.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Those those are the options that I had, and that's
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: what I had to do.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: I'm sure sure that as far as confidence, I'm sure
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: you feel better running out of the tunnel. I'm sure
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: he feels better run out of the tunnel with that
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: strong endorsem his owner. Well, you know when you get
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: that pregame speech. Trust me as somebody who played when
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: I was at Northeast Louisiana now Louisiana Monroe and played
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: four SEC teams, I got plenty of those pregame speeches
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: where you can look in the coach's eyes and go, Nope,
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: he's got zero confidence.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: We got this today. Boys, He's all right.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: He's saying one thing that his body's telling me something else.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: That's what I just did right there. That's gonna do
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: it for today. It was a fun one. Always enjoyed
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: the rookie draft. Somebody did bring up the idea by
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: the way of using defensive players one week.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: I like that. I think we have to mix that in.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Maybe we'll do that next week.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: I always appreciate you guys feedback, but that's gonna do
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: it for us to say.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: I hope you guys enjoyed the show and we'll see
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: you next time. Right here on, move the sticks.