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Bjorn Lestrud · Postcards to the Universe

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Postcards to the Universe with Melissa Capria. Do
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Speaker 1: you believe in magic? What if you were told that
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Speaker 1: all you had to do was get a little creative
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Speaker 1: and work a magic spell to bring anything you can
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Speaker 1: imagine into your life. Here on Postcards to the Universe,
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Speaker 1: we will share manifesting tips, postcards, creativity, abundance, and prosperity.
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Speaker 1: Here is your host, Melissa Caprill.
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Speaker 2: Hi everybody, and welcome to Postcards to the Universe with
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Speaker 2: Melissa creating the life you crave. It's Wednesday. How are
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Speaker 2: you guys doing. I hope everybody is doing well. It's
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Speaker 2: my favorite day of the week because I get to
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Speaker 2: talk to some amazing guests. And today I have Vjorn
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Speaker 2: Lastrewd on today and he is the founder of Blue
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Speaker 2: Dragon Healing. He's very interesting the work he does, so
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Speaker 2: he's going to join me in just a couple of minutes.
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Speaker 2: To my regulars, Oh my god, thank you so much
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Speaker 2: for being here with me each week. It means the
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Speaker 2: world to me. You have no idea. I get emails
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Speaker 2: and people tell me they've listened to my show and
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Speaker 2: they love it, and they love my guests, and it
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Speaker 2: just means the world and if you're listening to me
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Speaker 2: for the first time, I want to say welcome. You
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Speaker 2: can always listen to any of my shows if you
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Speaker 2: like today's show on the Archives on Home Times Radio.
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Speaker 2: We're on all of the podcasting platforms, and I also
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Speaker 2: upload every show I do on my website Postcards to
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Speaker 2: Theuniverse dot com, under podcasts. So just a little bit
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Speaker 2: about me. I'm a photographer, I'm an author, I'm an artist.
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Speaker 2: I have a book titled Postcards to the Universe, Harness
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Speaker 2: the Universe's power.
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Speaker 3: And manifest your dreams.
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Speaker 2: And in my book, I talk about the power of manifesting,
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Speaker 2: about being a conscious co creator with the universe, and
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Speaker 2: the way that I like to do it is through
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Speaker 2: having people create manifesting postcards, which is kind of like
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Speaker 2: a vision board. So people will put what they want
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Speaker 2: to manifest on their postcard. They put all their energy
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Speaker 2: into it, and of course there's a lot of things
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Speaker 2: you need to do after you release the postcard, but
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Speaker 2: that's the fun part. And when their manifestation shows up
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Speaker 2: in the reality, I share their stories.
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Speaker 3: So there's thirty of those stories in the book.
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Speaker 2: And this weekend, well actually Friday night, if you're in
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Speaker 2: South Florida. We're having a big opening in where I live.
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Speaker 2: I live in a it's like an art collaboration building,
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Speaker 2: so there live art residencies and we have a three
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Speaker 2: story gallery in the middle of the building. So we're
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Speaker 2: having a big reception and opening. There's twenty six artists.
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Speaker 2: I'm one of the artists, and I have my book there.
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Speaker 2: And of course what do I have twelve images? Yeah,
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Speaker 2: I have twelve images in the show of the postcards.
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Speaker 2: So I'm really excited about it. It's going to be
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Speaker 2: a big event. So if you live in South Florida
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Speaker 2: and you want to come, just let me know. It's
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Speaker 2: six to ten. It's in Fort Watererdale, and I hope
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Speaker 2: that you do. It's going to be a big party.
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Speaker 2: So I'm super excited about that. It took a lot
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Speaker 2: to put the show together and I'm very, very proud
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Speaker 2: of it. So if you're interested, Also, if you're like,
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Speaker 2: what is this manifesting postcard thing, if you go to
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Speaker 2: my website postcard universe dot com, I tell you how
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Speaker 2: to create a manifesting postcard and also where to send it.
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Speaker 3: The address is listed there. If you have any questions,
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Speaker 3: just reach out to me.
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Speaker 2: You can find me, can connect on my email or
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Speaker 2: on any of the social media and I will respond
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Speaker 2: and help you. I loved getting them. I get so
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Speaker 2: excited when I go to the mailbox and I have
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Speaker 2: another postcard. And if you do someone, just let me
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Speaker 2: know to expect it so I can keep on the
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Speaker 2: lookout for it.
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Speaker 3: Okay, So let me get to my guest today.
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Speaker 2: Jorne Lestrad is a sound healer, storyteller, and founder of
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Speaker 2: Blue Dragon Healing. His journey has been deeply shaped by
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Speaker 2: ancient shamanic traditions and personal experiences with plant medicines, which
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Speaker 2: helped him reconnect with his true self. Now he helps
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Speaker 2: others do the same, guiding them toward emotional clarity, spiritual growth,
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Speaker 2: and authentic self expression. A pivotal moment came in twenty
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Speaker 2: ten when Bajorne explored the teachings of Bob Procter, leading
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Speaker 2: to an emotional release that marked the beginning of his awakening.
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Speaker 2: This experience inspired him to seek deeper fulfillment and genuine expression.
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Speaker 2: His journey to took a significant turn in twenty twenty
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Speaker 2: one during the Light Portal Intulom, where he began a
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Speaker 2: series of encounters ancient wisdom and discovered the power of
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Speaker 2: sound through transformative experiences with plant medicine and biofield tuning.
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Speaker 2: Through his explorations, including work with shamans from around the world,
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Speaker 2: he deepened his understanding of healing and authenticity. These encounters
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Speaker 2: highlighted the importance of connection in the healing process, ultimately
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Speaker 2: guiding him to create Blue Dragon Healing. His flagship program.
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Speaker 2: Primal Path offers individuals a structure journey through pain, awakening, transformation,
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Speaker 2: and heritage. And if you want to find out more
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Speaker 2: about his work and what he does, go to the
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Speaker 2: Blue Dragonhealing dot net.
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Speaker 3: Welcome Bajorn. Thanks, thank you for having me.
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Speaker 4: It's great to be here.
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Speaker 2: Now I'm going to ask you again, and I know
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Speaker 2: I asked you before we went on. Say your name
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Speaker 2: correctly because I'm say it right, or did I say
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Speaker 2: it wrong because I do this all the time.
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Speaker 3: Okay, So it's Jorn.
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Speaker 4: Well, there's necessarily a wrong way to say it, just
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Speaker 4: because my name is pronounced differently depending on whether you're
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Speaker 4: in the US or in Europe. One okay, Bjorn, the
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Speaker 4: other says burn okay.
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Speaker 3: And your last name well.
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Speaker 4: Less Drude is the most common, but there were a
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Speaker 4: number of people in my past that called me lestrude.
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Speaker 2: That's true, Okay, yeah, because my last name is Caprio,
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Speaker 2: but a lot of people say Caprio, so I get
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Speaker 2: that too, So I understand.
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Speaker 3: Okay, so interesting the work that you do.
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Speaker 2: So I, of course, you know, before my guests come on,
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Speaker 2: I always go through their website and if they have
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Speaker 2: a book, read their book.
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Speaker 3: Or see the work that they're doing, listen to videos.
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Speaker 2: So how did you get like, like, what inspired this
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Speaker 2: kind of work?
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Speaker 4: I used? A reflection of my personal journey really yeahs.
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Speaker 3: A deep breath for that one. So obviously, yes, very.
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Speaker 4: Just connecting all the pieces of the universe since one
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Speaker 4: before I speak from my heart exactly. Yeah, it's a
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Speaker 4: reflection of my personal brand and my approach to life
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Speaker 4: and the things that I've been through and how they
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Speaker 4: have been translated into making an impact on keep other
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Speaker 4: people than just me. And so I would say that
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Speaker 4: a lot of my life has been about understanding emotions, instincts,
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Speaker 4: and egos. Like I don't know if you know you're
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Speaker 4: into human design or anything like that. So there's an
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Speaker 4: interesting way of looking at looking at human design, where
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Speaker 4: if you look at everyone has human design charts, and
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Speaker 4: if you look at your chart, they're all these different centers.
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Speaker 4: Some of them are chakras, some of them are you know,
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Speaker 4: more specific human design, but each one is either shaded
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Speaker 4: with a color or it's white and open. So we
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Speaker 4: all have at least one open center. And so whatever
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Speaker 4: centers are open for us is basically our gifts and
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Speaker 4: how we can interface with other people and understand them
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Speaker 4: and provide value to meaning like, if I have an
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Speaker 4: open ego center, then it means that I don't really
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Speaker 4: have a very strong defined sense of motivation or goal
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Speaker 4: setting or sense itself in that way, but that I
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Speaker 4: very intensely experienced that from other people and what their
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Speaker 4: sense of self is and and so for me, it's
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Speaker 4: I've been a journey of coming to terms with that
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Speaker 4: ununderstanding of the way emotions work and how to process
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Speaker 4: them and what drives the deeper rhythms beneath it all,
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Speaker 4: with the patterns that are kind of hidden beneath the
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Speaker 4: surface that even transcend self and move into the area
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Speaker 4: of the cosmos and ancestral and the etosha. So that's
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Speaker 4: kind of like a very meta.
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Speaker 2: Well, you know, our journeys are never a straight line, right,
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Speaker 2: So it's you know, and as we go, whatever our
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Speaker 2: journey is, we discover things on our path that take
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Speaker 2: us in certain directions and deeper understanding and our learning
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Speaker 2: and stuff. So I just imagine that you've had the
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Speaker 2: same kind of experience in your journey. But I just
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Speaker 2: wanted to tell you so in human design, I'm a reflector.
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Speaker 4: Mmmm, that's a really more unique one.
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Speaker 2: Actually, it's not surprised. I have a radio show, right,
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Speaker 2: I know. I learned about it probably about five or
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Speaker 2: six years and I didn't really delve that deep into it.
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Speaker 2: But a woman who I met who was very into it,
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Speaker 2: she did just briefly. She went over and told me
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Speaker 2: I was a reflector. So I read a little bit
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Speaker 2: about it and I was like, oh, that's interesting.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's really interesting.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I reflect back to what people show me, right,
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Speaker 2: like a mirror almost, right?
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Speaker 4: Do you take sometimes a longer time to go through
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Speaker 4: a process to make decisions about things?
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Speaker 5: Oh?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And in my astrological chart, I'm a Gemini, So
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Speaker 2: there's always two choices, I can imagine.
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Speaker 3: But I was reading.
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Speaker 2: Something and you do some I mean, besides the the channeling,
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Speaker 2: the impact of the channeling, and.
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Speaker 3: You do journeys.
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Speaker 2: I know you have explored ayahuasca journeys with people and
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Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff. I wanted to kind of
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Speaker 2: talk about your light portal ceremony because a lot of
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Speaker 2: people are going to be hearing and they're going.
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Speaker 3: To be like, what does that even mean? What is
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Speaker 3: a light portal ceremony and how that happens? You know?
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Speaker 3: So can you share what that was and what that is?
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Speaker 4: Okay? Sure? I had traveling for about five years, living
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Speaker 4: in like fifteen different countries for oh, you know, different
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Speaker 4: periods of times. Sometimes it's short as a day, sometimes
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Speaker 4: for months. It wasn't until I arrived into Loom after
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Speaker 4: responding to an invitation from a friend who was already
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Speaker 4: down there, that some really interesting things started happening in
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Speaker 4: my life. One of them was that my friend, the
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Speaker 4: one they invited me down, he stubbed his toe and
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Speaker 4: the whole thing was just black and blue, and it
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Speaker 4: was the whole toenail was black. And it was one
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Speaker 4: of those deals where if he showed it to anyone,
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Speaker 4: they would feel the need or the sense to tell you,
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Speaker 4: you know, your toenail is going.
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Speaker 2: To fall off, right, Yeah, it's true, because that's what
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Speaker 2: I thought, because I've had it.
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Speaker 3: I was like, oh, that's the first thing I thought.
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Speaker 4: Okay, it was the big toe, and it was wow.
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Speaker 4: So I had just seen his toe very recently, you know,
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Speaker 4: within the last couple of days, and then I saw
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Speaker 4: him again and see him for a couple of days,
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Speaker 4: and he said, look, I tell and I was going
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Speaker 4: to tell him it's completely normal. There's no discoloration, no
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Speaker 4: black and blue, the tone of white like a normal
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Speaker 4: tonail color. And I asked him, how did this happen?
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Speaker 4: He had gone to this ceremony called the Light Portal
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Speaker 4: and he left like that. So got me curious, of course,
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Speaker 4: because when you see something in front of your eyes,
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Speaker 4: it's hard to even a scientific mind, which I didn't
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Speaker 4: really consider myself scientist per se, but I have a
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Speaker 4: very practical side to me, and so I saw that night, Okay,
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Speaker 4: I guess I'll go to the lake. That's all about.
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Speaker 4: I never really gotten too into spirituality and the metaphysical stuff.
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Speaker 4: I mean, I was always interested in some of the
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Speaker 4: like the stuff where the river meets the road, and
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Speaker 4: some works like you know, the Alchemist or the Way
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Speaker 4: of a Peaceful warrior and a lot of personal development
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Speaker 4: and you know, looking at thoughts, but if we're talking
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Speaker 4: about like ancestral healing or shum gemonic chanting or anything
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Speaker 4: like that, Nod really touched it. But I was open
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Speaker 4: minded to a point on it. And so he brought
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Speaker 4: me to it because they had this ceremony once a week.
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Speaker 4: So he brought me and we were in a room
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Speaker 4: with like maybe twenty total participants. We were all around
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Speaker 4: the outside of the room and there were mats with
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Speaker 4: each of us on the floor like yoga mats basically,
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Speaker 4: and about four or five facilitators background, all drawing from
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Speaker 4: different healing lineages and traditions. So he had Keen, who
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Speaker 4: was the one who really was in charge. Isn't the
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Speaker 4: right word, but you know, it was kind of his
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Speaker 4: baby in the sense that he groomed the process for
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Speaker 4: the ceremony and he knew all. He was sort of
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Speaker 4: the glue that brought that group together, and he you know,
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Speaker 4: he had really used to have a he had previously
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Speaker 4: had a healing center in Thailand, and he's from Vietnam
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Speaker 4: and it's been pressed coming for like thirty years. There
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Speaker 4: was this other woman, Ina Best, ancient Muslim lineage and
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Speaker 4: families prison. She was trained on it from when she
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Speaker 4: was a little girl, that kind of work. So that's
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Speaker 4: this example of like two of them. So basically they
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Speaker 4: had us to go through a process where we were
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Speaker 4: combining a bunch of different modalities in one sitting. So
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Speaker 4: we had we did something called biodynamic breastwork, where you
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Speaker 4: are basically combining movement with in this case, open mouth breathing,
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Speaker 4: which we did for a while, you know, like you know,
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Speaker 4: cheegong type movements and maybe some yoga type movements combining
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Speaker 4: with some really strong breath. And then they invited this
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Speaker 4: all down on our backs. And this is when things
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Speaker 4: started getting more dynamic. Even where someone was started playing
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Speaker 4: a drums, someone was chanting, people were walking, facilitais were
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Speaker 4: walking around, and they would stop intuitive at different to
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Speaker 4: where different participants were and start working on them, you know,
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Speaker 4: like muscle work, digging into the fascia, that sort of
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Speaker 4: thing for releasing blockages. So I was laying there and
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Speaker 4: the woman I told you about, Nina, came over and
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Speaker 4: started working on me. And I mean, honestly her, she's
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Speaker 4: a very tiny person, but when she could dig her
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Speaker 4: fingers in it hurt my keck. And you know, I
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Speaker 4: was borderline ready to scream, and there were people in
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Speaker 4: there that were screaming and crying in him. It's like
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Speaker 4: a whole massive emotions in there. But I didn't scream.
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Speaker 4: And as she finished her work and got up and
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Speaker 4: moved on, I started to laugh. And then this is
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Speaker 4: this deep laughter was just moving through me. And it
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Speaker 4: was I just caught a sense that it was a
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Speaker 4: deeper part of me that I wasn't used to experiencing. Uh.
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Speaker 4: It was like familiar but unfamiliar. And the laughter just
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Speaker 4: shone right through and got some other people laughing too.
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Speaker 4: And so that wasn't it for you that my first
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Speaker 4: life coloral experience. I didn't have any sort of miracle
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Speaker 4: ceiling or anything like that. But what it did was
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Speaker 4: it maybe more curious. And so I said a private
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Speaker 4: session with Ina and jose two of the facilitators, and
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Speaker 4: they came to my apartment and we put a bed
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Speaker 4: down on the floor and you know, worked on me
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Speaker 4: for an hour and a half this time, and uh,
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Speaker 4: and then after she did all the body work, the
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Speaker 4: three of us sat and talked and she started telling me,
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Speaker 4: I saw, you know, the these energies on your mother's
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Speaker 4: side of these energies from your father's side. I spirit
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Speaker 4: guy that was a jaguar. I saw this spirit guy
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Speaker 4: that was a Native American shaman. And then we got
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Speaker 4: to the last part of their private session when they
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Speaker 4: served me a plant miss and called pape, which for
18:53
Speaker 4: those who don't know what that is, it's like a
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Speaker 4: people call it shamanic snuff. So it pays based on tobacco,
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Speaker 4: but it also has psychoactive to it and you take
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Speaker 4: it in the nose. So they served me this hop
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Speaker 4: hay and it knocked me out, I mean it sent
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Speaker 4: me somewhere. He served me the hop hey and then
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Speaker 4: Jose got up behind me and he started shaking moroccas
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Speaker 4: in my ears, and so my mind was not able
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Speaker 4: to try and explain itself, explain away what was happened
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Speaker 4: to me, because I couldn't think with the sound, and
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Speaker 4: so I wasn't able my mind to think away, and
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Speaker 4: I was forced to deal with it and feel it.
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Speaker 4: And what started happening is Jose started just chanting while
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Speaker 4: he was shaking the moroccas, and something moved in me
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Speaker 4: and I started chanting, and then I realized I couldn't
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Speaker 4: stop chanting, and I felt really heavy, dense energy moving
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Speaker 4: through me and got sick on the floor and was
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Speaker 4: sick like a dog for a few hours.
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Speaker 2: But the next literally like literally you got like like
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Speaker 2: you've you vomited sick?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, because I've heard that happen a.
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Speaker 2: Lot with ayahuasca and the boot the what is it, buffo?
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Speaker 2: However you say that, Yeah, Buffo kept violently, violently sick.
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Speaker 3: It's like a purging. You're purging, yeah, and.
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Speaker 4: Hope is known for that. It's as a purgatory. So
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Speaker 4: I yeah, I got when I said that, literally, it
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Speaker 4: was literal, I vomited. I use the term purge because
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Speaker 4: it's it's commonly accepted in that community, and it's as
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Speaker 4: what's lighter term, yeah, because it doesn't make me picture
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Speaker 4: it when I say it. But yeah, so I had
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Speaker 4: a physical purge, we'll say. And I was laying on
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Speaker 4: the floor for like three hours. I didn't even want
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Speaker 4: to get up on the The couch was right next
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Speaker 4: to me. I could have at least gotten up on
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Speaker 4: the couch and laid there, but the ground felt so
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Speaker 4: much more secure.
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Speaker 3: And cold, right and cool?
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Speaker 4: Cold? Yeah, cold and cool?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, like that.
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Speaker 4: Trustworthy. It felt trustworthy, like hey, my old friend, almost
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Speaker 4: like you know, holding a stone from the earth in
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Speaker 4: your hand kind of a thing. And so I just
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Speaker 4: laid on the floor until I was ready to get up.
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Speaker 4: The next morning, when I fucked I realized that I
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Speaker 4: had this arthritic pain in my knees, you know, for
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Speaker 4: the past two years leading up to that, where anytime
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Speaker 4: I would be sitting more than a couple of minutes,
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Speaker 4: I would have to straighten my legs out because my
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Speaker 4: knees would start stiffening up. And uh, this was, you know, chronic, constant,
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Speaker 4: every day kind of thing. But when I woke up
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Speaker 4: that morning, after that purge from that and the private session,
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Speaker 4: all that me pain issue was gone, totally gone true.
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Speaker 2: What did you think, You're like? Was your mind blown?
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Speaker 3: Where You're like, what just happened to me?
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Speaker 4: I didn't know what to think. I couldn't deny how
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Speaker 4: I felt, And it wasn't something that I had an
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Speaker 4: expectation for. I had no expectation that there would be
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Speaker 4: anything different when I woke up the next day, actually,
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Speaker 4: and it was a relief. I guess that's the best
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Speaker 4: way of think. I mean, I didn't really care that
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Speaker 4: much where it came from. And in the moment when
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Speaker 4: I felt that I was just there was a sense
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Speaker 4: of relief.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I imagine it would be, because especially if
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Speaker 2: you have pain every day and then all of a
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Speaker 2: sudden you're not experiencing it, You're just so grateful that
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Speaker 2: it's gone. So did that journey make you want to
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Speaker 2: explore this deeper?
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Speaker 4: Exactly? It's like, how can I turn back now? Right?
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Speaker 3: Of course, i'd the same way. I'll be like, let's
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Speaker 3: just keep going.
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Speaker 4: I still had pain, you know, I still head background
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Speaker 4: pain and other things and anxiety and you know, but yeah,
23:15
Speaker 4: that was that was the beginning for me in a
23:17
Speaker 4: lot of ways. So I did. I did boopo a
23:22
Speaker 4: couple of times, and I did ayahuasca like twenty times.
23:26
Speaker 3: Wow you purge every time?
23:30
Speaker 4: No, No, absolutely not. I only the main thing I'm
23:33
Speaker 4: only ever purged from has been hey, even in ceremony.
23:38
Speaker 4: I never perched in Alaska alone, but there were Hot
23:42
Speaker 4: pay is commonly served in ayahuasca ceremonies, especially when they're
23:45
Speaker 4: run by the indigenous, and uh, I've only ever purged
23:48
Speaker 4: in an ayahuasca ceremony when someone served me hot pay
23:52
Speaker 4: during the ceremony. Interesting, Yeah, Bufo was nothing less than
23:59
Speaker 4: just will magic for me, because well I did that
24:03
Speaker 4: in a private session and I had set an attention.
24:06
Speaker 4: I knew to this, This famous Iowa scarral was coming
24:09
Speaker 4: to town serve by aahuasca and I said, well, I'd
24:12
Speaker 4: like to try buffo. And I was told by one
24:14
Speaker 4: of my teachers that if you're going to do buffo
24:16
Speaker 4: and ayahuasca a couple of days before aluasca, because the
24:21
Speaker 4: buffo opens the eighth n chakras don't do is ayahuasca
24:26
Speaker 4: and then buffo, you'd have to wait a lot longer
24:29
Speaker 4: between them. So I thought myself, well today and I said,
24:34
Speaker 4: you know, if I don't get a strong sign hours,
24:38
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna say that I'm I'm just going to
24:40
Speaker 4: skip the buffo and just do ayahuasca. And literally the
24:45
Speaker 4: next morning I have a voice note on my WhatsApp
24:49
Speaker 4: from this girl I knew who said hey, uh calling
24:53
Speaker 4: you out of the blue a bit, But I had
24:56
Speaker 4: disappointment tonight to do a private session with you and
25:01
Speaker 4: Nila they were the other two facilitated portal and uh,
25:06
Speaker 4: my partner canceled, would you be interested in doing it?
25:10
Speaker 6: Wow?
25:10
Speaker 2: Well, that's that's that's it. You're supposed to do it.
25:13
Speaker 2: That's how it happens, right, no coincidences. So those who
25:18
Speaker 2: don't list don't know. Buffo is tote venom and it's
25:22
Speaker 2: recommended to be facilitated by an actual shaman, medicine man,
25:27
Speaker 2: medicine woman, somebody who knows what they're.
25:29
Speaker 3: Doing, right. And she went with the aborigine.
25:34
Speaker 2: She went into the bush and she did it with
25:36
Speaker 2: an aborish aborigine elder who was experienced, and it was
25:42
Speaker 2: just her and she she told me she perched pretty bad,
25:47
Speaker 2: but she said it was she said it was a wild.
25:49
Speaker 4: Experience though I'm sure it was.
25:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, she had a lot of trauma. She had a
25:54
Speaker 2: lot of trauma that she was working.
25:57
Speaker 4: Well, if she persed a lot, then no doubt, right,
26:01
Speaker 4: because that's what it's. Yeah, you know where a lot
26:03
Speaker 4: of it comes from. I think it might be important
26:06
Speaker 4: to mention also that five neo d m P is
26:09
Speaker 4: also what essentially the main thing in bufo is. And
26:15
Speaker 4: so a lot of people they can look that up
26:17
Speaker 4: to five CEO. It's five and number five Uh huh.
26:23
Speaker 4: That dash M and Mary and elephant, oh is an
26:27
Speaker 4: ostridge dash d M.
26:30
Speaker 3: T oh Okay, I never heard that. That's good to know.
26:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, So if anybody who's interested in looking that up, well,
26:37
Speaker 2: it's it's a very particular journey that you're ready to
26:42
Speaker 2: go on when you make these decisions to do what
26:45
Speaker 2: you're doing, you know, and for people who who do this,
26:48
Speaker 2: and I want to get in more to some of
26:50
Speaker 2: the spiritual experiences that happened to you as you've gone
26:53
Speaker 2: into your journeys with sound and vibration and all.
26:57
Speaker 3: That really cool stuff. So let's take our break here.
26:59
Speaker 2: And then we'll come back and we'll continue our discussion
27:03
Speaker 2: just a couple of minutes.
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Speaker 2: and it's said that it's legal in Canada. Of course,
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Speaker 2: of course, right, I know, right one? And I'm like, like,
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Speaker 3: What am I doing here? But don't you know?
30:09
Speaker 2: And I was also thinking, because my brain never stops, like,
30:12
Speaker 2: can you imagine being the first human being that decided
30:16
Speaker 2: to like try toad venom? Or like I you know what,
30:20
Speaker 2: I like, Like what made you decide.
30:24
Speaker 3: To like try it? Like it's just crazy to me
30:26
Speaker 3: how that works? So interesting.
30:30
Speaker 2: So as you're having these experiences and you're doing them
30:34
Speaker 2: mostly in other countries, right or do you do them
30:36
Speaker 2: in the United States underneath a shaman or a medicine
30:42
Speaker 2: man or a woman here or no, all these other things.
30:46
Speaker 4: That I'm describing so far are and most of the
30:50
Speaker 4: ones that I had done on this particular path were
30:53
Speaker 4: in Mexico.
30:55
Speaker 3: Mexico, right makes sense? Yeah?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So what kind of experiences did you start having?
31:02
Speaker 3: Because it is it?
31:05
Speaker 2: Did I read that you can channel now and you
31:08
Speaker 2: can connect to your spirit guides? That all opened up
31:12
Speaker 2: for you? Okay, can you share a little bit about that?
31:15
Speaker 4: Yeah? Well, all I need to do is seduate a
31:18
Speaker 4: little bit into that Bufo story because okay, was during
31:22
Speaker 4: that session with the Buffo, what happened was they said, okay,
31:27
Speaker 4: so just sit up on this mattress, you know, and
31:30
Speaker 4: inhale until it's all gone, and we'll kind of guide me,
31:35
Speaker 4: like keep keep inhaling, keeping healing, and then when you're done,
31:40
Speaker 4: throw your arms straight up in the air and fall
31:42
Speaker 4: back onto the mattress. So I did that, right, and
31:48
Speaker 4: initially inhale and as soon as I start to drop,
31:51
Speaker 4: I'm immediately the sounds coming out of my mouth. There
31:54
Speaker 4: something you can to oh, like blessed it completely blissful
32:03
Speaker 4: state immediately like instant and so I laid back and
32:10
Speaker 4: I started feeling this pressure sensation in the middle of
32:14
Speaker 4: my forehead, almost like someone was digging their fingernail, like
32:18
Speaker 4: pushing it into my forehead. It hurts, and then all
32:24
Speaker 4: of a sudden, I see it's blue light exploding everywhere,
32:30
Speaker 4: and then I start I erupted into a song. A
32:35
Speaker 4: song just started flowing through me, and I'm you know,
32:37
Speaker 4: I'm laying there in this tranced out state, and people
32:40
Speaker 4: described Bufo basically as essentially experiencing what death is like.
32:46
Speaker 4: And I'm somehow singing in the room there, and so
32:51
Speaker 4: I'm singing in the language of my spirit guide, and
32:56
Speaker 4: all these vocal ranges we're coming through that I had
33:02
Speaker 4: never come close to singing before. We're talking about both
33:07
Speaker 4: on low side and also like in the high side.
33:11
Speaker 4: All these frequencies and sounds were coming out of me,
33:14
Speaker 4: and I'd never made you know, it was all new
33:16
Speaker 4: to me. And so that was the beginning, because within
33:25
Speaker 4: a couple of days, I'm going to these ayahuasca ceremonies
33:28
Speaker 4: and people had heard about it, the music that I
33:33
Speaker 4: was singing, and so that I was starting to get
33:35
Speaker 4: requests to chant in these ayahuasca ceremonies that were being
33:39
Speaker 4: held by someone else.
33:42
Speaker 3: Was it like a light language? Was it like light language?
33:45
Speaker 2: Because I have heard more and more people are tapping
33:48
Speaker 2: into this light language that or sounds that we don't
33:54
Speaker 2: do on a regular basis, Like we don't say, we
33:56
Speaker 2: don't sing, you know here on earth.
33:58
Speaker 3: You know it's coming from a higher realm. Was it
34:01
Speaker 3: kind of like that?
34:03
Speaker 4: Similar It's a dragon language, so it's not the same
34:07
Speaker 4: as a light language, but your's similarities for sure.
34:11
Speaker 3: You called it a what language?
34:14
Speaker 4: A dragon language?
34:15
Speaker 3: Dragon? Dragon? Like a dragon?
34:18
Speaker 4: Like a dragon?
34:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh okay, Well in my.
34:21
Speaker 2: Meditation, I see a dragon every morning, so I'm gonna
34:24
Speaker 2: ask him.
34:24
Speaker 3: To share with me.
34:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I do. It happened like eight months ago.
34:29
Speaker 2: It came to me like eight months ago, and I
34:31
Speaker 2: see him every morning in my meditation, So I'm going
34:34
Speaker 2: to ask him now to make something sound.
34:36
Speaker 4: See other beings in your meditations too, or is this
34:39
Speaker 4: the main one? Yeah?
34:40
Speaker 2: Mostly it's a dragon, but I see little fairies and
34:43
Speaker 2: I see yeah, some mystical creatures. I see a lot
34:48
Speaker 2: of my animals that have passed on, and my sister
34:51
Speaker 2: who has passed on, she's there all the time too.
34:55
Speaker 4: Yeah, the dragon is most likely than your primary guide.
35:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, right now, right now, yeah, eight, like about eight
35:03
Speaker 2: months ago, he started.
35:05
Speaker 3: I get hate masculine energy.
35:07
Speaker 2: But really it doesn't matter, you know, just that's how
35:10
Speaker 2: it sort of comes through when my brain tries to
35:13
Speaker 2: process it.
35:15
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I started having these encounters with dragons
35:21
Speaker 4: myself when I started doing AOL Austin. That's what happened
35:24
Speaker 4: right away, is first. So this guy was in town
35:29
Speaker 4: right panshe NeiMa, and he was in town. He did
35:31
Speaker 4: twelve ceremonies, and he's from the Shakibau lineage. So their style,
35:37
Speaker 4: for those who don't know, is very different than all
35:40
Speaker 4: the others because the shapeople don't have any traditional chance
35:43
Speaker 4: that they sing, and they do the whole ceremony in
35:47
Speaker 4: darkness to sit in the room in darkness. They don't
35:50
Speaker 4: let a fire out back nothing. It's a real meditation
35:55
Speaker 4: in that sense. And and so this guy was in town.
35:59
Speaker 4: He and he saw the first ceremony at some point
36:04
Speaker 4: because I'd never really had the clear vision of my
36:06
Speaker 4: guides before, and that moment, all of a sudden, I
36:10
Speaker 4: saw an entire parade of spirits moving across the room
36:16
Speaker 4: like in a almost like a parade like fashion, all
36:22
Speaker 4: different kinds of beings. I thought that the guy running
36:27
Speaker 4: the ceremony was somehow channeling these spirits into the room
36:31
Speaker 4: and I was observing them. But what I didn't realize
36:34
Speaker 4: at the time where he was just my guides showing
36:37
Speaker 4: and introducing themselves to me because they knew I could
36:39
Speaker 4: see them. And so as these guys are marching past me,
36:46
Speaker 4: and someone start doing this really whimsical, hilarious things. One guy,
36:50
Speaker 4: you know, he's dressed like a warrior, and then he
36:53
Speaker 4: opens a door to a chamber and closes the door,
36:55
Speaker 4: and then the chamber vanishes in a puff of dream smoke.
37:02
Speaker 3: Those wild experiences.
37:04
Speaker 4: Yeah, ah, there was a dragon there though, a green
37:08
Speaker 4: dragon is a time, and it looked at me, and
37:11
Speaker 4: I looked at it, and we had eye contact, and
37:13
Speaker 4: it's all information in this pray, and all of a
37:16
Speaker 4: sudden it breaks the formation. It flies right at me
37:19
Speaker 4: and crashes into my shoulder. And I didn't.
37:23
Speaker 3: Even feel it.
37:24
Speaker 2: So you're feeling it like your your body is having
37:27
Speaker 2: the physical sensation but you're in meditation.
37:32
Speaker 4: Kind of Uh. Yeah, I saw, I saw it happen,
37:35
Speaker 4: and I could feel the energy. I wouldn't say that
37:39
Speaker 4: I felt it on too physical a level, but I was.
37:43
Speaker 4: I could feel the loving energy of it.
37:45
Speaker 3: Yeah, I understand. I understand what you mean.
37:48
Speaker 4: Yeah, and what these guides were starting to slowly, slowly
37:51
Speaker 4: show me like it. You know. The next ceremony I
37:54
Speaker 4: went to, three dragons crashed into me, and each ceremony
37:57
Speaker 4: I saw more and more dragons, and by the end,
38:00
Speaker 4: you know, I'd see hundreds of them in the room
38:02
Speaker 4: with me. Wow, And they were showing me that they
38:08
Speaker 4: don't exist outside of me, that they run through my energy,
38:15
Speaker 4: so there is no separation between me and them. They're
38:20
Speaker 4: part of my team. You know. It's like I took
38:23
Speaker 4: a human experience here, and yeah, I mean, I am
38:28
Speaker 4: a spirit whatever you want to say it, but I'm
38:30
Speaker 4: also but I am there's also an embodiment of me
38:33
Speaker 4: as a human, and that human has a spiritual team
38:37
Speaker 4: with them. You know. Like if you think about it,
38:40
Speaker 4: that like we're all sort of our own little corporation.
38:43
Speaker 2: Right right, all connected, all connected to each other. So
38:48
Speaker 2: that's why hence the name blue Dragon healing, right, Hence
38:53
Speaker 2: you're why you created, right.
38:56
Speaker 4: Yeah, when I met that dragon, I met him out
39:00
Speaker 4: by the fire, and I walked outside and all of
39:03
Speaker 4: a sudden, I see this blue dragon in front of me,
39:05
Speaker 4: and I mean compared to every other one I'd seen
39:08
Speaker 4: up at this point. It was something about it that
39:10
Speaker 4: was like it made me, you know, pause for a
39:14
Speaker 4: moment and like, wow, there's something very significant about this
39:17
Speaker 4: particular dragon. And it blew some kind of smoke on me,
39:20
Speaker 4: and I'm like, I don't know what this is all about.
39:23
Speaker 4: And so this was I lived in New Mexico for
39:26
Speaker 4: about a year after that, in the you know, in
39:28
Speaker 4: this loom jungle area, and as that experience, mosquitos left me.
39:33
Speaker 3: Alone completely, no kidding, really, yeah, I thought maybe it
39:38
Speaker 3: was awastica maybe.
39:41
Speaker 4: Hey maybe, But then other people what did iahuasca with me?
39:45
Speaker 4: Were still having problems with the mosquitos, so I couldn't
39:48
Speaker 4: talk it up to that. So that was the only
39:50
Speaker 4: thing I could think of interesting.
39:54
Speaker 2: So now, people, So are you taking people now to
39:58
Speaker 2: have these experiences? Are you you helping facilitate for other
40:02
Speaker 2: people in their own healing journey?
40:07
Speaker 4: The main thing that I do now, and it's always
40:10
Speaker 4: subject to expand and change, but I do work a
40:16
Speaker 4: lot just virtually because of the power of the quantum field.
40:20
Speaker 4: There's not really any difference between me being in the
40:24
Speaker 4: room with someone versus me being on the other side
40:27
Speaker 4: of the world. And I use sound and through channeling
40:33
Speaker 4: and through a few instruments that I use with it
40:37
Speaker 4: to basically help people shift deeper patterns. I don't really
40:46
Speaker 4: I haven't made a practice of guiding people through plant
40:50
Speaker 4: medicine doing that, but I can. It's just not really
40:55
Speaker 4: necessarily needed because what happens with the sound is that
40:58
Speaker 4: you even you're even if you're not good at meditating,
41:03
Speaker 4: and even if you have no control over your mind,
41:06
Speaker 4: the power of this kind of work is that if
41:08
Speaker 4: you listen to it long enough, it will steal the
41:10
Speaker 4: mind away anyways. Right, it's communicating directly to the body.
41:16
Speaker 4: If you consider what is sound, sound is light, They're
41:19
Speaker 4: the same thing, just different frequencies. So sound is the
41:22
Speaker 4: frequency that the body understands, So use these healing frequencies.
41:28
Speaker 4: It's just talking right to the body, and the body
41:31
Speaker 4: is talking back, and that person's mind can think about
41:33
Speaker 4: whatever they want, but it's you know, at some point
41:39
Speaker 4: their thoughts are going to shift while they listen to it.
41:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, I listen to sound frequencies all the time. I
41:46
Speaker 2: play it all day in the background on an iPad.
41:50
Speaker 2: So if something's going on, like I'm having like when
41:53
Speaker 2: I had the flu and I have congestion and stuff, like,
41:56
Speaker 2: I played frequencies for that, Like because I had the
41:59
Speaker 2: flu like about a month ago. I haven't had it
42:02
Speaker 2: in so long, But I do it all the time,
42:04
Speaker 2: Like if something's you know, for whatever, it could be
42:08
Speaker 2: for stress, you know, it could be for a headache.
42:10
Speaker 3: It could be for stomach ache.
42:12
Speaker 2: But yeah, because I've found out that there's something very
42:18
Speaker 2: healing I learned, I should say that, you know, vibration music.
42:22
Speaker 2: Vibration has healing properties because you're right, it talks to
42:26
Speaker 2: your body and your mind and you don't even have
42:28
Speaker 2: to be aware of it, just play it in the background.
42:32
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I'm somehow like when I'm channeling, the different
42:37
Speaker 4: guides that work within my energy are all sort of
42:41
Speaker 4: being conducted by the Blue Dragon. So I have different
42:45
Speaker 4: voices that come out, different rhythms, all range, whole range
42:50
Speaker 4: of different frequencies, different words each time, and no time
42:55
Speaker 4: is exactly the same because they're all in the moment too, right, energy.
43:01
Speaker 2: Right, Well, yeah, because you're working specifically with one on one,
43:04
Speaker 2: Like for example, if I came to you and I said,
43:08
Speaker 2: you know, I, you know, I want to go because
43:11
Speaker 2: this always happens to me, Like my stomach gets all
43:14
Speaker 2: out of whack when I'm stressed, right, So I want
43:16
Speaker 2: to come to you, and I said, let's work on that.
43:19
Speaker 2: You would specifically do a channeling and you would pinpoint
43:24
Speaker 2: in my own frequency and body where what's going on
43:27
Speaker 2: and where it is right and kind of like chill
43:31
Speaker 2: that kind of thing.
43:33
Speaker 4: It would it would be like on my end, how
43:36
Speaker 4: I experience it. A lot of it is it's very
43:38
Speaker 4: very physical. So when I'm working with someone's energy, I
43:42
Speaker 4: feel all the releases of the electrical charge because I
43:46
Speaker 4: go through rushes through my whole body like like you know,
43:52
Speaker 4: so you know, it can be happy times to me
43:55
Speaker 4: in one session or even more depending on how much
43:59
Speaker 4: emotional congestion and there is there. So part of it
44:04
Speaker 4: is just clearing the debris to allow whatever is there
44:10
Speaker 4: that needs to process, to process and move. And so
44:14
Speaker 4: that's what that charges. It's like our attachment to what's there,
44:19
Speaker 4: are to what's happened, and it's a exploration, you could say,
44:27
Speaker 4: into the deeper parts of where you come from, and
44:31
Speaker 4: you know your primal origin, so that as you shift
44:37
Speaker 4: back through you come out perhaps a little bit less
44:43
Speaker 4: self serious because you can see the part of yourself
44:46
Speaker 4: that you had really seen yourself as, but then just
44:51
Speaker 4: remembering that it's just one part of you.
44:56
Speaker 3: Right.
44:58
Speaker 2: Do you call it bio field tuning the work that
45:01
Speaker 2: you do?
45:02
Speaker 3: What's it?
45:02
Speaker 2: MOTSA. I'm probably going to say this wrong, not so many?
45:06
Speaker 4: What.
45:06
Speaker 3: I don't know what that is. I've never heard that.
45:08
Speaker 2: Before many and it helps you explore biofield tuning. I
45:13
Speaker 2: didn't know what that meant. When I was looking at
45:15
Speaker 2: your notes, I was like, what is that I have
45:17
Speaker 2: to ask about that?
45:19
Speaker 4: That's how many was actually one of my teachers.
45:23
Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, I would have never got that.
45:26
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah.
45:29
Speaker 4: I worked with him doing a diet, a spiritual plant
45:33
Speaker 4: diet where I never physically took the plant, but I
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Speaker 4: dieted the plant. It's called Marosa, one of the master
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Speaker 4: plants and Amazon it's all about the heart, and so
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Speaker 4: I was about basically I met with him every two
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Speaker 4: three weeks. You would give me a new chance, and
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Speaker 4: I would listen to this chant every day. This is
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Speaker 4: before I came back to the States and started doing
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Speaker 4: biofield tuning. I'd listen to the chant every day and
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Speaker 4: then I would do like a grounding ritual with smoke
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Speaker 4: like a mapacho, and do like a seven directions thing. Anyway,
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Speaker 4: about a month into that journey, I went out for
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Speaker 4: a walk one evening and I had just this experience
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Speaker 4: where it was like I had this feeling of this
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Speaker 4: really warm sensation in the upper middle part of my chest,
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Speaker 4: and then this expansion almost like the pells of flower
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Speaker 4: blooming all at once, and then the sense of deep,
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Speaker 4: beautiful love just gushing through me, to where everything I
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Speaker 4: looked at in the physical world I was falling in
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Speaker 4: love with. If I put my attention on anything, I
46:42
Speaker 4: was in love with it. I was stumbling around like
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Speaker 4: a drunk. Everywhere I looked, even in the air, I
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Speaker 4: could see these blends of colors and it was all
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Speaker 4: It's like the most beautiful painting I'd ever seen. But
46:52
Speaker 4: it always it would constantly shift and change. When I
46:55
Speaker 4: shifted and changed. It was so magical, and that was
46:59
Speaker 4: without actual it's physically interesting substance. So I began to realize, Wow,
47:03
Speaker 4: remote work can be very, very powerful. Yeah, and so
47:07
Speaker 4: I come back to the States and I started playing
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Speaker 4: with tuning forks organically because I liked it. And then
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Speaker 4: I learned about bilefield tuning online as a kind of
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Speaker 4: an established healing modality where you can use tuning forks
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Speaker 4: and target you know, be very targeted with how you
47:22
Speaker 4: work with a person's energy field. And so I got
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Speaker 4: certified in that. Then eventually I integrated that into my
47:29
Speaker 4: chanting rather than integrate my champion into that. That makes sense,
47:33
Speaker 4: but part of it, i'mall part of it. Yeah, but
47:35
Speaker 4: it's part of the experience.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Now, how do you do this kind of work
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Speaker 2: and not take that on?
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Speaker 3: Do you have to go through like a whole after
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Speaker 3: you work with.
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Speaker 2: A client, like a whole cleaning or cleansing yourself, because
47:53
Speaker 2: you know, you're mixing your you know, the energy you're
47:56
Speaker 2: you're helping people release all this energy. That's got to
48:00
Speaker 2: be top I mean, tiring, I would think, Or have
48:03
Speaker 2: you found a way to protect yourself?
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Speaker 4: Oh? I generally keep pretty close monitor on my energy
48:12
Speaker 4: and I'm not usually looking to do more than one
48:15
Speaker 4: or two sessions in a day. And you know, even
48:19
Speaker 4: if I could make a lot more money, I wouldn't
48:21
Speaker 4: do it because I want to keep my energy balanced
48:24
Speaker 4: and I'm kind of a you know, fun human design
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Speaker 4: standpoint at six ' two in my hermiting phase, so
48:29
Speaker 4: I need to hermit every so often just to regain
48:32
Speaker 4: my energy. But when I'm working with a client, there
48:36
Speaker 4: are many times because we're releasing emotional charge and a
48:39
Speaker 4: lot of the work I'm doing is on the collective level,
48:43
Speaker 4: so their patterns did also run through me, so a
48:46
Speaker 4: lot of times I receive a healing along with them,
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Speaker 4: and many times I'll walk out and feel ten times
48:53
Speaker 4: better than I even did when I entered the session.
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Speaker 2: That's interesting, That makes sense though, Yeah, that makes a
48:59
Speaker 2: lot of sense.
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Speaker 3: Wow, it's fascinating.
49:02
Speaker 2: So for anybody listening who may be interested in working
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Speaker 2: with you, they have whatever they have in their own
49:09
Speaker 2: life going on.
49:10
Speaker 3: What does the session look like with you?
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Speaker 4: So we said it for an hour, sometimes we go
49:17
Speaker 4: a few minutes longer and just depending on things, and
49:19
Speaker 4: so we just start out, have a little chit chat
49:23
Speaker 4: talk and then figure out a little bit about what's
49:28
Speaker 4: going on in their life right now, and we sort
49:33
Speaker 4: of make the connection between what you know, where are
49:36
Speaker 4: there areas of tension between them and other people. And
49:40
Speaker 4: that's usually where I focus the work because that somehow
49:44
Speaker 4: strings back to the deeper parts of our emotions, because
49:48
Speaker 4: our emotions are all about feelings about ourselves and other people.
49:55
Speaker 4: And so I use that. And then I just started
49:57
Speaker 4: and usually with some tweeting forks, just to clear a
50:00
Speaker 4: lot of the charge. And then I may I may
50:04
Speaker 4: do a chant with my drum. I may stick with
50:07
Speaker 4: the tuning forks. I might incorporate something else into the equation.
50:10
Speaker 4: We might do some creative storytelling, like I cater each
50:16
Speaker 4: experience true the person, so it's more of the spoke.
50:21
Speaker 2: You could say, Yeah, now, do people usually need a
50:27
Speaker 2: series of sessions or is everybody individual? You know some
50:32
Speaker 2: people one session is good for them, or like, you know,
50:36
Speaker 2: how does that usually show up for you?
50:39
Speaker 4: So the difference is if someone's going through a transition
50:42
Speaker 4: or a transformation, right, So it's like maybe someone's parents
50:47
Speaker 4: passed away some time ago and they just can't move
50:51
Speaker 4: past the group. That's a transition, right. Yeah, you may
50:55
Speaker 4: probably probably only need one session for that, maybe more,
50:59
Speaker 4: but one has done it has been plenty for other people,
51:03
Speaker 4: and we'll just process a lot in one session. If
51:08
Speaker 4: it's like I'm changing the direction of my career and
51:14
Speaker 4: I want to create a life that is in more
51:17
Speaker 4: alignment with my sense of being. Well, I'm sorry, but
51:23
Speaker 4: I'm not going to be able.
51:25
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah yeah yeah yeah. Like you go for like,
51:33
Speaker 2: you know, you go to see a therapist and you
51:35
Speaker 2: you had a lifetime of trauma and you want to
51:37
Speaker 2: be like done.
51:37
Speaker 3: You're like, okay, did you fix me?
51:39
Speaker 2: No, it doesn't work that way.
51:43
Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes sense, That makes sense. Okay.
51:46
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's like anything else, it depends on what
51:50
Speaker 2: you're trying to process, what you're trying to move, where
51:53
Speaker 2: you at, where you're at in your life, and whether
51:56
Speaker 2: you need a series or sessions or one. So, can
51:59
Speaker 2: you share a little bit about without obviously delving in
52:03
Speaker 2: anybody's personal details, some experiences some of your clients have
52:09
Speaker 2: shared with you after a session.
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Speaker 4: Sure, And I'll just say also that I think it's
52:15
Speaker 4: important to mention that people that tend to be attracted
52:19
Speaker 4: as work tend to have sort of a place where
52:22
Speaker 4: they they aren't so self serious and they they're looking
52:26
Speaker 4: for a more lighthearted approach to healing. That's how what
52:30
Speaker 4: this is all about, right, Okay, So well, if we
52:34
Speaker 4: talked about grief. There was a woman that came to
52:37
Speaker 4: me and she had her father talked to pass away
52:40
Speaker 4: a year ago, and she had a business that she
52:43
Speaker 4: had been very successful with her own business for a while,
52:47
Speaker 4: but she was completely stifled with creativity to a point
52:52
Speaker 4: where it was just like, you know, it was too much.
52:56
Speaker 4: So we did a session and and that for that one,
53:01
Speaker 4: I had to lay down the hammock after for a
53:04
Speaker 4: couple of hours. Wow. That she you know, a lot
53:08
Speaker 4: of times coming out of healing quessions, she feels lighterright away,
53:11
Speaker 4: but this time she felt heavier, and she had to
53:13
Speaker 4: go to take us to sleep, and she fell asleep
53:16
Speaker 4: and slept for about two hours. So when she woke up,
53:19
Speaker 4: she felt a very significant difference and her creativity came
53:25
Speaker 4: back and she's just been I don't know what the
53:29
Speaker 4: term is when someone is extremely active. I see her
53:32
Speaker 4: everywhere all the time creating new things. So yeah, it
53:38
Speaker 4: was very you know, powerful for her, and she even
53:40
Speaker 4: gave she even did a video testimonial for me.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like she was paralyzed by her grief.
53:46
Speaker 2: That happens a lot when you're a creative person. If
53:49
Speaker 2: you're like me. Like I notice when certain things happen
53:54
Speaker 2: that are very heavy, I feel super blocked creatively and
53:57
Speaker 2: I feel paralyzed, like I don't know where to go,
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Speaker 2: like I can't get that creative, I can't tap into
54:03
Speaker 2: my creative energy. So I understand. I understand that, Wow,
54:08
Speaker 2: that's pretty cool, that's pretty we can.
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Speaker 4: Fill up with, you know, energies. There aren't really even
54:15
Speaker 4: ours the process, and so sometimes the traditional approaches for
54:19
Speaker 4: people I just don't get the job done because they're
54:23
Speaker 4: not going deep enough.
54:26
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, and carrying all of that is heavy and
54:33
Speaker 2: all it it makes you tired and lazy. And that's
54:38
Speaker 2: why we escape, right our phones, uh Netflix, you know, drugs, alcohol, food, shopping, sex, whatever,
54:47
Speaker 2: because we're numbing ourselves out because we're not dealing with
54:51
Speaker 2: what's really going on, right, which is what we need
54:55
Speaker 2: to do.
54:57
Speaker 4: I have the spiry of all men and women in
54:59
Speaker 4: the sense that if you look at how we're built,
55:01
Speaker 4: like my male's bones cads be more dense. Right, So
55:06
Speaker 4: I get this sense that part of my purpose of
55:09
Speaker 4: being a man on a planet here is to help
55:12
Speaker 4: deal with heavier energy. It is my body is built
55:16
Speaker 4: to withstand a certain amount of course.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes sense. I like that. I never thought
55:23
Speaker 3: about it before. So we only have a minute.
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Speaker 2: Left anything you, Oh, we don't even have a minute.
55:29
Speaker 3: Tell people how to find you. Tell people how to find.
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Speaker 4: You drag and Healing Dott and that there's also a
55:36
Speaker 4: podcast with Drake Healing podcast.
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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much. I really enjoyed our conversation.
55:41
Speaker 2: Says very interesting. Thank you for being here with me.
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