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Life Beyond Legacy: Jazmin Erving Talks Identity & Family | Born To The Game · Born To The Game Podcast

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Speaker 1: Huh.
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Speaker 2: I guess you guys don't know there is yeah again.
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Speaker 1: Around here.
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Speaker 3: Mark, Come on, Mark, Okay, we have our special guest.
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Speaker 2: What's up, everybody, and welcome to Born to the Game.
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Speaker 2: I'm your host Mariah Woodson, daughter of NBA coach and
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Speaker 2: former NBA player Mike Woodson, and I'm Tamara Payton than
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Speaker 2: the niece of Mike Woodson. And you're tuning in to
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Speaker 2: episode two of our special edition episodes, recorded live from
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Speaker 2: NBA Summerly twenty twenty five at Sirius XM Studios at
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Speaker 2: the Wynn Hotel, Las Vegas. Yes, on this show, we
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Speaker 2: dive deep with the sons and daughters of legends, exploring
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Speaker 2: the real stories behind legacy, identity, pressure and purpose. Because
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Speaker 2: when you are Born to the game, fame doesn't guarantee
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Speaker 2: clarity and greatness doesn't come without challenges. And today's guest
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Speaker 2: is a woman of grace, grit, and generational greatness. She's
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Speaker 2: an entrepreneur, a creative, a powerhouse in her own rights.
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Speaker 2: And she is the daughter of NBA icon Julius, doctor
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Speaker 2: j Irving and what an icon he is. Please welcome
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Speaker 2: to the show, Jasmine Hervey, you look amazing. Yes, you
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Speaker 2: are at all. I'm so happy to have you here
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Speaker 2: with us. Yes, your story is one that we're super
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Speaker 2: excited to share. You are always a light. I've met
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Speaker 2: you several times before at golf tournaments, and every time
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Speaker 2: I see you, You're always moving and shaken. You're always
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Speaker 2: doing and just so kind and so I am so
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Speaker 2: excited to let the people hear who you are tell
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Speaker 2: your story. So I'm excited. I'm ready to go. I'm
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Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna add a little razzle dazzle. Let's rock lady. Okay,
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Speaker 2: We're going to start off by asking you to describe
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Speaker 2: what being born to the game is to you in
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Speaker 2: three words. Well, what three words which.
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Speaker 1: You choose, Born to the game? What does it mean
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Speaker 1: to me? It's privilege, exposure, and love. M hmmm.
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Speaker 2: So when you say exposure, what have you been exposed
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Speaker 2: to in this business?
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Speaker 1: I think that we have the We have the pleasure
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Speaker 1: and the gift of being able to be exposed to
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Speaker 1: a lot of things from birth, things that most of
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Speaker 1: our peers aren't able to see. We get to see
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Speaker 1: behind the scenes, we get to see how the sausage
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Speaker 1: is made. Yes, but we get to see people for
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Speaker 1: who they really are. I think that it's one thing
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Speaker 1: that my dad always taught me is to really see people.
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Speaker 1: And we have that opportunity to see people when they're
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Speaker 1: not putting up the celebrity kind of facade.
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Speaker 2: Yes. Yes, so we're going to go into identity and influence,
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Speaker 2: just to segue off of that. And you said behind
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Speaker 2: the scenes. You you put me right into my next portion,
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Speaker 2: So you get this behind the scene look of being
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Speaker 2: doctor Jay's daughter. Growing up, we all know who he is,
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Speaker 2: so you had a point of view, like you said,
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Speaker 2: that no one else has seen. So what was that
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Speaker 2: like from early times? Growing up in a household where
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Speaker 2: such a great man in stature, he's huge, I'm like,
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Speaker 2: oh my god, and just being on his shoulders like that?
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Speaker 2: What is that like?
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Speaker 1: You know? I was asked this question when I was
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Speaker 1: twelve years old. My dad was speaking at a college
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Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh and somebody yelled out, I have a question
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Speaker 1: for your daughter, and he said, how is it being
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Speaker 1: Doctor Jay's daughter? And I said to me, He's just dad,
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Speaker 1: And so it just was, you know, I knew he
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Speaker 1: was a celebrity, and I knew he was famous, but
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Speaker 1: at home, he was just dad. So it was really
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Speaker 1: cool that seeing that that other people admired him in
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Speaker 1: a different way. We would go out and people would
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Speaker 1: stop him for autographs and he was always like with
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Speaker 1: my family now. So it's he protected us in a
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Speaker 1: way that he made sure that he made time for
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Speaker 1: us and that we just got to know him as
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Speaker 1: dad and got to grow up with him his dad.
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Speaker 2: So as you were growing were you able to travel
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Speaker 2: with him or were you pretty much know where you were.
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Speaker 1: We You know, it's funny, we actually used to come
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Speaker 1: here to Vegas, to this hotel we us when we
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Speaker 1: were younger. It was a couple older hotels, but I
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Speaker 1: mean we we always made a family vacation. Our family
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Speaker 1: vacation traditionally was to Vegas because my dad liked to
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Speaker 1: gamble a little bit and there was plenty to do
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Speaker 1: with the kids. My mom would like shuffle us over
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Speaker 1: to Circus Circus. So when I woke up this morning
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Speaker 1: and looked out, I was like right back at the beginning.
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Speaker 1: You know, we spent a lot of time here.
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Speaker 2: So at what point did you realize your dad is
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Speaker 2: the doctor? J Do you remember that time?
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Speaker 1: I remember when my daughter realized. I mean, I think
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Speaker 1: I always knew. Okay, I always knew because we when
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Speaker 1: I was young, we were going to games and we
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Speaker 1: would have run around the spectrum and be in the
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Speaker 1: bottom parts and in the wives lounge. So it was
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Speaker 1: something I always knew and I was always aware of.
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Speaker 1: But he he taught me just to see people differently.
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Speaker 2: Right, So what kind of kid were you? So when
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Speaker 2: you were you quiet? Were you more rambunctious?
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Speaker 1: I was a full time boy. I had three brothers,
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Speaker 1: so I wrestled and played football with them and did sports,
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Speaker 1: and I was yes, basketball, I was kept in my
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Speaker 1: basket my little a story.
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Speaker 2: Yes, did you ever play dad one? One? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: Well we would play outside. You've like had a hoop?
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Speaker 2: Did you wait it? No? Not?
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Speaker 1: And my brothers would not let me my dad or
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Speaker 1: my brothers. The one time though, we were in the
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Speaker 1: south of France and we had gone to find you know,
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Speaker 1: out to the parks, and we found my brothers found
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Speaker 1: a pickup game and so they you know, got a
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Speaker 1: message show us back at the hotel. Hey, you guys
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Speaker 1: need to come down here. We told them we're playing five,
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Speaker 1: only five, you know, And it's like my dad, my
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Speaker 1: little brother and I are at the hotel. So we're like, oh,
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Speaker 1: you know, all right, we get there and they're like,
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Speaker 1: no fare this love only told me all ever played together.
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Speaker 2: That's fun. I love that. Did growing up in a
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Speaker 2: household with someone as famous as your father affect relationships
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Speaker 2: with friendships romantic relationships? How was that dynamic? Oh?
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Speaker 1: Absolutely? I mean I think that it all of us.
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Speaker 1: It taught us to be like a little bit more guarded.
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Speaker 1: I think that, you know, like I said, my dad
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Speaker 1: taught me to see people. So I think that that
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Speaker 1: was such a good gift that he gave me as
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Speaker 1: a young person that I am able to kind of
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Speaker 1: filter people out.
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Speaker 2: Okay, can you dive into that? And you say you
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Speaker 2: can see people? What does that mean exactly? Like what
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Speaker 2: are you looking for?
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Speaker 1: Meaning to see if people are sincere or not, you know,
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Speaker 1: or what their motives are or kind of how they
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Speaker 1: see you.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 1: Anybody that came up to me was like, so doctor
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Speaker 1: j And I'm like, if you're not calling him Julius
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Speaker 1: or your dad or serving, I'm like you probably like
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Speaker 1: fanning out. Yeah, I'm kind of cool on you know.
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Speaker 1: It gives me a little bit of reserve, a.
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Speaker 2: Life skill to learn that early about the field. I mean,
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Speaker 2: adults don't know how to do that.
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Speaker 1: No, yeah, this is true.
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Speaker 2: So when you're in school and you you know, obviously
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Speaker 2: you were now walk us back a little bit when
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Speaker 2: your dad was playing while you were a child, right, okay,
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Speaker 2: so everybody at school knows who you are.
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Speaker 1: How was that?
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Speaker 2: It was?
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Speaker 1: Actually again, it was a blessing. I went to the
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Speaker 1: same school from preschool to twelfth grade. Wow. So I
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Speaker 1: had lifelong friends, you know at that point. There was
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Speaker 1: he was playing when I started, so and he was
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Speaker 1: not playing when I finished. Okay, okay, But it was
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Speaker 1: a small enough community that you know, nobody really cared.
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Speaker 1: If anything. I was like the odd black girl standing out,
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Speaker 1: you know, not like the celebrities kid.
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Speaker 2: Wow.
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Speaker 1: So it was it was interesting like just with my
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Speaker 1: group group friend base. But then outside of school, you know,
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Speaker 1: I would you would hear the rumors, you know, and
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Speaker 1: you would hear you know, people looking at you kind
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Speaker 1: of funny like is it over there? When I went
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Speaker 1: to college, I remember I sharing a down experience. Within
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Speaker 1: the first week of school. There were eight guys that
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Speaker 1: said they had slept with me.
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Speaker 2: Wow.
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Speaker 1: And they were like I slept doctor day's daughter. I
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Speaker 1: was like, just like, and one of them actually said
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Speaker 1: to me when I was in the room, which was hilarious,
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Speaker 1: and I was like, so, what's her name? You're like
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Speaker 1: like hello, like and it was funny because by I
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Speaker 1: went to Spelman and we get paired up with a
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Speaker 1: Morehouse brother, and so my Morehouse brother was like trying
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Speaker 1: so hard to laugh because this guy's like, yeah, you know,
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Speaker 1: I saw her yesterday and he.
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Speaker 2: Was going on and we just let him. He said,
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Speaker 2: we just have this t.
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Speaker 1: Keep going, keep going. So, you know, you if you
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Speaker 1: learn to kind of ignore what other people are gonna say,
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Speaker 1: you know, what other people have in mind of what
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Speaker 1: your life is like or your perception, and you just
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Speaker 1: kind of hold onto your true self. So they both
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Speaker 1: of my parents grounded me in that way.
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Speaker 2: Do you think it's giving me your tough skin? Oh?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely? And then having three brothers growing up like
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Speaker 1: that'll do.
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Speaker 2: There is something to having I'm I'm the only girl too.
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Speaker 2: There is something about having all brothers. You really become
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Speaker 2: this other like you have. You have to have skin
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Speaker 2: or you're not gonna survive.
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Speaker 1: You're everybody's gonna be gone.
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Speaker 2: Sure foose you know you're gonna fall in the in
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Speaker 2: the toilet exactly, exactly. Yeah, we're already in the toilet exactly.
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Speaker 2: We just just a compensation. All right. We are now
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Speaker 2: at the halftime segment of the show. We're going to
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Speaker 2: be playing two games with Jasmine. The first one is
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Speaker 2: the thirty second shot clock. We're gonna be asking her
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Speaker 2: this or that questions and then my favorite, the family
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Speaker 2: feed fast money because I'm not gonna lose. You're so competitive, right,
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Speaker 2: you really need I got that from my dad. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: that's true. You get that.
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Speaker 1: I did too.
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Speaker 2: You're competitive. So again the brothers thing I did do.
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Speaker 1: The one thing you sleek kids, I'm coming for you.
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Speaker 2: It's gonna be a blood bathroom right here at the
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Speaker 2: way hotel. Okay, okay, thank god you in the middle,
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Speaker 2: right all right, So let's start with the thirty second
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Speaker 2: shot clock. So again it's thirty seconds. I'm gonna ask
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Speaker 2: you this or that questions and you just keep trying
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Speaker 2: to answer the US back as many as you can.
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Speaker 2: And I think got through like he got through like ten.
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Speaker 1: So you're like yes or nose right, They're very quick.
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Speaker 2: Okay, So see if you can if you're competitive, I
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Speaker 2: don't know. I'm going to get through more.
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Speaker 1: Going for it.
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Speaker 2: Let's zeke you not even hear ze go? Well we
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Speaker 2: after you? Okay, all right, ready, all right, I gonna
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Speaker 2: give you three two one and start. Okay, three two
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Speaker 2: one go ice water or room timp, room timp, clap
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Speaker 2: back or keep it pushing, keep it pushing. Vader Joe's
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Speaker 2: or Whole Foods, Nada Joe's Live Music or DJ live
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Speaker 2: pool or casino pool. What happens in Vegas, stays in
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Speaker 2: Vegas or leaves Vegas?
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Speaker 1: Actually leaves Vegas?
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Speaker 2: Sometimes cash apprizelle zel It's honesty ten seconds, It's honestly
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Speaker 2: always the best policy. Yes, would would rather be thirsty
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Speaker 2: in the desert or freezing in a blizzard, thirsty in
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Speaker 2: the desert. Playlist or podcast playlist, lost phone or lost computer?
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Speaker 1: Lost computer? Yeah that was good. I met my partner
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Speaker 1: in Vegas. So oh sometimes sometimes it.
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Speaker 2: Leaves. Look, if you want to talk about that, we can.
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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna put on our headphones so that y'all
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Speaker 2: know I'm not trying to cheat. You know, I want
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Speaker 2: to win last.
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Speaker 1: Those like the headphones my daughters, I'm I don't know
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Speaker 1: if those are real sound blockers.
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Speaker 2: You know ya, you're gonna see because I'm super high.
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Speaker 2: We tried it out because Mariah does just say you
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Speaker 2: cheated in the last game. Cheated. I don't think you
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Speaker 2: cheat it, Okay. I love you more than anything, and
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you to cheat it. Okay. Anyway, I'm
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Speaker 2: going for the bottom. So are you ready ready? Okay?
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Speaker 1: So?
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Speaker 2: And this is fast too. I don't have a timer,
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Speaker 2: but it's fast. Okay, Okay. Name something you give your
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Speaker 2: mom on Mother's Day jewelry. Name something you would spend on,
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Speaker 2: lottery winnings, a home. Name something you would wear on
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Speaker 2: your face mess scaramm Name something that you would eat
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Speaker 2: at a festival or fair funnel cake? Uh, last one.
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Speaker 2: Name something you would do right before you go to bed. Pray, Okay,
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Speaker 2: let me tell you up real quick. And this is
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Speaker 2: fast money. Are we ready, ladies, I'm ready? Okay? Oh
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Speaker 2: are we ready? Ladies? Oh? She can't here, she can't hear,
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Speaker 2: don't work. Okay, Here we go, Here we go, Here
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Speaker 2: we go, Here we go. Name something you give a
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Speaker 2: mom a Mother's day flowers. Name something you would spend
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Speaker 2: on lottery, winnings, a house. Nope, vacation. Name something you
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Speaker 2: wear on your face make up? Nope, what glasses? Name
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Speaker 2: a popular food at a festival or fair, con Kenny,
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Speaker 2: Name something in the bathroom sink. No, I'm just kidding.
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Speaker 2: Name something you would do right before brush your teeth? Okay, okay,
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Speaker 2: she and now she beat that.
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Speaker 1: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's tally it. I think, Maria, I want again,
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Speaker 2: I don't think so Okay, I told y'all I was
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Speaker 2: I was not cheating. I want that on record. The
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Speaker 2: jasmine has confirmed I didn't cheat. I hope. I want yes.
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Speaker 2: Oh no, you did it, dang, jasmine.
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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Wait a minute, I know I gave
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Speaker 1: one really wonky answer.
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Speaker 2: Let's see you did I did by how much? A lot?
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Speaker 2: Only because only because and you said this yesterday, because
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Speaker 2: the right before bed question you were like, people don't
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Speaker 2: pray anymore. Pray, you pray. So you went with one
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Speaker 2: hundred eight points. Who's going to take her down? Somebody
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Speaker 2: our next guest. I want somebody to take her down,
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Speaker 2: because you know.
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Speaker 1: I've got brothers, all.
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Speaker 2: Right, So let's dive back into it. And this is
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Speaker 2: my favorite question. I want someone to ask me this question. Okay,
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Speaker 2: let me ask you, no, this is about jasmine. What's
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Speaker 2: one part about being born to the game that would
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Speaker 2: surprise people? Or you can break a stereotype or share
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Speaker 2: something unexpected about the lifestyle.
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Speaker 1: I think it is when you actually meet the celebrity,
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Speaker 1: you know, the celebrity people around you, it's surprising to
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Speaker 1: see who's nice and wow. I bet you have some
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Speaker 1: stories about that, and I think I have some have
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Speaker 1: some great stories. I can't share all drop names, but
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Speaker 1: I won't drop names. But there was there was a
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Speaker 1: player when I was young, I never believed in all.
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Speaker 1: I just thought that they were the silliest things in
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Speaker 1: the world, like why and my brothers would clamor to
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Speaker 1: get autographs from people. And there was a player that
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Speaker 1: had come to Philly and he wasn't playing, and my
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Speaker 1: little brother was like, I want to go over and
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Speaker 1: ask him for an autograph. This is during a game.
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Speaker 1: And so my mom, you know, nudge memes like take
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Speaker 1: your little brother over there. And we went over to
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Speaker 1: him and it's like, hey, you know, my brother wants
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Speaker 1: an autograph. And he's like, you kids, get away from me. Oh,
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Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, I don't like him, And
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Speaker 1: so I went back, and my mom was like pissed off,
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Speaker 1: and she's like, well, I'm saying something to your dad.
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Speaker 1: And after the game, we went into you know, back
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Speaker 1: into the undergrounds of the of the arena, and my
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Speaker 1: mom like pushed my dad to make sure that he
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Speaker 1: introduced us, and not so much so that we could
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Speaker 1: meet him, but more so to make him look like
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Speaker 1: an idiot. Right, And the guy was like, oh you
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Speaker 1: jocks kids.
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Speaker 2: Oh that was gonna be my question. Did he know
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Speaker 2: who you were?
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Speaker 1: He his whole tune change That goes back to me
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Speaker 1: like seeing people's like, so I didn't like him for
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Speaker 1: a really long time. No, I'm actually kind of cool
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Speaker 1: with it. Okay, I get I don't like him for
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Speaker 1: years because I saw that switch, Like, you know, you
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Speaker 1: can't you should treat people the same, whether they're affiliating.
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Speaker 2: Man, did you ever ever come up later early you
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Speaker 2: did have conversation? Did he apologize? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: Okay, And he was like yeah, I was getting new
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Speaker 1: to the game, you know, I like yeah, but you
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Speaker 1: know it was like it was a lesson for me
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Speaker 1: more than anything.
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Speaker 2: And you know what, it could have been a lesson
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Speaker 2: for him too in that moment. Yeah, right, She just
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Speaker 2: doesn't matter who you are, Just be kind.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Kind, And hopefully he didn't brush off any more kids
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Speaker 2: after you guys.
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Speaker 1: Have I hope not. I hope it taught him something. Well.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say, like I I do have an experience,
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Speaker 2: not exact, but with players I've always had. I when
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Speaker 2: dad was working in New York, I worked for Madison
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Speaker 2: Square Garden, the Garden Dreams Foundation, Shout out to you guys.
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Speaker 2: It was a sad garden, an amazing experience. I worked
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Speaker 2: with underprivileged kids and extremely sick kids like sick. There
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Speaker 2: was one time I had I was hosting a kid
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Speaker 2: for Christmas and I'll never forget. I was running around.
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Speaker 2: I got him this gift basket. You know, he was
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Speaker 2: finally going to be able to leave the hospital to
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Speaker 2: come to a Christmas game. I got everything ready for him,
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Speaker 2: and he passed away.
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Speaker 1: Like it was.
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Speaker 2: It was extremely tough to work through those moments knowing
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Speaker 2: that I may see this kid on Monday and he
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Speaker 2: may pass away, but like we were making their last
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Speaker 2: wishes come true. But I'm saying that to say some
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Speaker 2: people may not realize that our players are amazing with
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Speaker 2: our kids, but they're also very sensitive to that. So
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Speaker 2: I've actually had a lot of players on the NIXT team.
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Speaker 2: If I were to say to them, hey, can you,
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Speaker 2: you know, make this kid's you know, last dream come true,
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Speaker 2: some of them get really really nervous and sad that
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Speaker 2: seeing them that's going to be their last thing that
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Speaker 2: they remember. And so you know, you see these big
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Speaker 2: macho athletes, but a lot of them actually variants. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: can be very vulnerable in times like that. So just
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Speaker 2: to piggyback off them, I know, I remember when you
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Speaker 2: worked that job, and it was I'm so passionate about it.
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Speaker 2: It was really cool and I really enjoyed seeing our
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Speaker 2: players interact with the kids. But I do remember there
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Speaker 2: are some players who are like, now, how sick is he?
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Speaker 2: Like is he really really sick? And I'm like yeah,
21:31
Speaker 2: and they're like, oh, you know, and they you know,
21:34
Speaker 2: sometimes that would be hard.
21:35
Speaker 1: Like yeah, I love that you were kids too.
21:40
Speaker 2: I always love it and love I miss it. Shout
21:43
Speaker 2: out to gardines. I love that. So hey, we we
21:48
Speaker 2: talked about your early days. You were you had a
21:52
Speaker 2: pretty streamline you were there. I mean, that's really amazing
21:54
Speaker 2: you went from pre k to twelfth grade. That doesn't
21:56
Speaker 2: happen a lot, especially in this community of the game
22:04
Speaker 2: family members that we have here, it is and that's
22:07
Speaker 2: how we think of it as a family. And so
22:09
Speaker 2: hearing everyone's stories, sometimes there's a lot of similarities, but
22:13
Speaker 2: then there's also differences, which is great. So that's the
22:15
Speaker 2: first time I've ever heard that you were there. I've
22:17
Speaker 2: ever heard Have you heard another guests say they were
22:19
Speaker 2: there from pre k to twelfth grade? It's not common.
22:22
Speaker 2: It's not common at all. So, yeah, so your early
22:24
Speaker 2: years were are pretty you know, I don't I don't
22:27
Speaker 2: want to say stable, but just you know, stable, okay, considering.
22:30
Speaker 1: Okay, absolutely, Okay, great, So Mama locked it down.
22:34
Speaker 2: I love that.
22:35
Speaker 1: She said, Look, yeah, I actually had perfect attendance when
22:38
Speaker 1: I graduated, and I graduated from eighth grade, like when
22:41
Speaker 1: transition from eighth enh grade, I had perfect attendance. Yeah.
22:45
Speaker 1: My mom was like your my mom and my dad
22:46
Speaker 1: they're like, your job is school, So yeah, that's what
22:48
Speaker 1: you're gonna do.
22:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, I as what. They did a great job with
22:51
Speaker 2: that as well. Yeah, well, since you brought her up,
22:52
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna take a second here. You brought
22:54
Speaker 2: her up, so let's talk about your mom for tell
22:56
Speaker 2: us about her, tell us about her just growing up
23:00
Speaker 2: as well.
23:00
Speaker 1: She my mom is she's from North Carolina, so she's
23:03
Speaker 1: that good old southern, down down home girl that doesn't play.
23:08
Speaker 1: It doesn't play. So she I mean, I love my mom.
23:10
Speaker 1: She actually lives back in North Carolina. Now. She's a
23:13
Speaker 1: wonderful woman. She just she gave us a lot of
23:16
Speaker 1: foundation and taught us about family. She was a stay
23:20
Speaker 1: at home mom, but her job was making us feel
23:24
Speaker 1: like we were family. And I think that that's why
23:27
Speaker 1: we always took our family vacations and why I always
23:31
Speaker 1: felt like Dad was just dad, because she made sure
23:34
Speaker 1: that there were no there was no showboating on the inside.
23:37
Speaker 1: It was about doing your chores and you know, and
23:40
Speaker 1: and yes we had help, but we still had to
23:43
Speaker 1: get up and make our bed, and wash our laundry
23:45
Speaker 1: and and things like that, and and clean the kitchen.
23:48
Speaker 1: And you know, she she held us down. So I
23:50
Speaker 1: think that when I was younger, I hated it, as
23:53
Speaker 1: we all did. I hated being the only girl because
23:55
Speaker 1: I was like, what did they get to wear what
23:56
Speaker 1: they want to wear and they get to do what
23:58
Speaker 1: they want to do. But as I became an adult,
24:01
Speaker 1: I realized that she built such a foundation into all
24:03
Speaker 1: of us on how to be good people and how
24:06
Speaker 1: to be responsible adults.
24:07
Speaker 2: I love that. Yeah, thank you for sharing. Yeah, Mom,
24:10
Speaker 2: So you have a great support system. So talk about
24:15
Speaker 2: the challenges and how important your support system was. Just
24:19
Speaker 2: the challenges of being born to the game. It can
24:21
Speaker 2: be early or even you know, just moving along in life.
24:26
Speaker 2: Some of the bigger challenges you have to face and
24:28
Speaker 2: how you overcame the challenges.
24:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think that the biggest challenges is
24:34
Speaker 1: other people's perceptions and knowing that I have like wanting
24:39
Speaker 1: to stay true to myself. I had a job in college,
24:42
Speaker 1: right out of college or write in college. I was
24:45
Speaker 1: working at Roflaurin. I was like my little college job was.
24:50
Speaker 1: I wanted to be in fashion so bad. And I
24:53
Speaker 1: remember I was having a conversation with one of my
24:55
Speaker 1: coworkers because they had signed us up for some like
24:58
Speaker 1: crazy schedule with inventory and so forth. And it was
25:03
Speaker 1: a visiting manager was in town because our manager was
25:07
Speaker 1: like on a two week vacation, and so this guy
25:09
Speaker 1: all he knew was that I was doctor Ja's daughter,
25:11
Speaker 1: and he didn't know anything about me. He didn't know
25:13
Speaker 1: anything about my work ethic or what I stood for anything.
25:17
Speaker 1: And he overheard this conversation and he's like, you know,
25:21
Speaker 1: not everybody's father is paying there. And it was like
25:23
Speaker 1: he said something to me that was just so off
25:26
Speaker 1: cuff for not what I was talking about or even
25:31
Speaker 1: knowing me. It was just like an assumption that he
25:33
Speaker 1: had and I went off on the turquoise and Meeta,
25:36
Speaker 1: I was like that North Carolina, and I ended up
25:42
Speaker 1: having to curse him out. Yeah yeah, And I pulled
25:45
Speaker 1: a full Jerry Maguire job. I love it. And I
25:54
Speaker 1: waited until he went back to corporate and our old
25:56
Speaker 1: manager came back in and told him what happened, and
25:59
Speaker 1: he hired me right back. I was like, yeah, there's
26:02
Speaker 1: some things I'm not dealing with. And and I think that,
26:05
Speaker 1: you know, we've been fortunate enough to be able to
26:07
Speaker 1: beat have the advantage to walk away sometimes, but it
26:11
Speaker 1: is about, you know, seeing how people react to you
26:14
Speaker 1: and and and for me, that was that was always
26:16
Speaker 1: hard when people made assumptions about who they thought I
26:19
Speaker 1: was or what they thought I stood for without really
26:22
Speaker 1: getting to know me.
26:23
Speaker 2: And also like counting your money, don't count my money,
26:25
Speaker 2: don't don't count my money, don't don't tell me what
26:28
Speaker 2: I can cannot. Don't don't do that, right, that's yeah.
26:33
Speaker 2: So do you think that there was this immense amount
26:36
Speaker 2: of pressure on you to fill these shoes or try
26:39
Speaker 2: to live up to other people's expectations, or to work
26:42
Speaker 2: harder because you naturally think that, oh, you know, I
26:46
Speaker 2: don't want people to think that I'm only getting these
26:49
Speaker 2: jobs because of my father, so I need to work
26:50
Speaker 2: ten times harder to prove myself. Did that ever happen
26:53
Speaker 2: to you?
26:54
Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely, I mean I think it was. My dad
26:57
Speaker 1: was he was very much about basketball icon but he
27:02
Speaker 1: wasn't into a lot of other businesses. And so as
27:05
Speaker 1: I developed, you know, my career and where I wanted
27:08
Speaker 1: to be, I always wanted to work with children, So
27:10
Speaker 1: you don't get a lot of advantages working with kids
27:13
Speaker 1: just being doctor chased. So it wasn't you know, I
27:17
Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of jobs that I came into
27:19
Speaker 1: because of affiliation. It was always because of the networking
27:23
Speaker 1: that I did and kind of the drive, and a
27:26
Speaker 1: lot of them were not high paying jobs, and so
27:29
Speaker 1: for me, it was it was it was about proving myself.
27:33
Speaker 1: But I think in a way, it was more like
27:36
Speaker 1: proving myself to my family and proving myself to my
27:40
Speaker 1: peers that I didn't have to take this high profile,
27:44
Speaker 1: celebrity kind of job. That I could work, you know,
27:47
Speaker 1: with Boys and Girls Club or you know, I could
27:50
Speaker 1: I could work with Salvation Army and still feel really
27:54
Speaker 1: fulfilled without having to have that high title, high paying position.
27:58
Speaker 2: So that perfectly segues. And you are now in next segment. So,
28:02
Speaker 2: and you briefly touched on it. But where are you now?
28:05
Speaker 2: You know, as far as your business? You know what,
28:08
Speaker 2: what are you passionate about? What is your calling in life?
28:10
Speaker 2: You talked about children, So where did that love for
28:13
Speaker 2: working with children come from? What are you working on now?
28:17
Speaker 1: Well? Now I am I always have to pause before
28:20
Speaker 1: I say that I'm a crystal miner.
28:23
Speaker 2: So you don't hear that crystal miner? A crystal miner?
28:27
Speaker 2: Have you? But can we can we say this like
28:30
Speaker 2: so that you can segue into it. Yes, let's talk
28:32
Speaker 2: about the history you made, yes with your crystal mining.
28:36
Speaker 2: Are you not the first black crystal miner?
28:40
Speaker 1: Yes, the first black crystal mind owners? Okay, yes, at
28:45
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of black crystal miners.
28:46
Speaker 2: Okay, so let's let's repeat that.
28:48
Speaker 1: So you are so, we're my business partner and I
28:51
Speaker 1: were the first black women to own a domestic crystal
28:54
Speaker 1: mind wow. And so we own a mine in Georgia.
28:57
Speaker 1: We're part owners of a mine in Georgia, Amethyst Mine.
29:00
Speaker 1: And it came to be from doing a good deed.
29:04
Speaker 1: We picked up a stranded driver while we were up
29:08
Speaker 1: in Carolina wild and we were it was during the pandemic,
29:14
Speaker 1: and we were driving along and we saw him waving
29:17
Speaker 1: his arms, so we stopped to help him and he
29:20
Speaker 1: hit a deer. Had been stranded out there for hours
29:23
Speaker 1: with no cell reception, and so we just knew it
29:27
Speaker 1: was the right thing to do, was to you know,
29:28
Speaker 1: help him. We drove him to get a call triple A,
29:31
Speaker 1: waited for him for a triple A, and then drove
29:34
Speaker 1: him back to the town, which was like a seven
29:36
Speaker 1: hour ordeal.
29:36
Speaker 2: Okay, did you have Lord's work? Because I was going
29:39
Speaker 2: to say, did you have any like just fear because
29:44
Speaker 2: nowadays I am not picking up anyone, But that also
29:48
Speaker 2: is a testament to who you are.
29:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, so, was there a moment I grew
29:52
Speaker 1: up in Philly so I keep a golf club in
29:54
Speaker 1: my car, so you.
29:57
Speaker 2: Take it.
29:58
Speaker 1: We really need to. It was my best friend and
30:00
Speaker 1: I are kids and my godsister, so I was like,
30:04
Speaker 1: you know, just five of us, we can get him
30:07
Speaker 1: if we need to. But I think he was more
30:09
Speaker 1: scared of us. I just remember he was in the
30:13
Speaker 1: back of the car because well, you know, we finally
30:15
Speaker 1: got to be like put a mask on because it's
30:17
Speaker 1: like height a pandemic. And he was in the back
30:19
Speaker 1: of the car and he was rubbing his hands with
30:20
Speaker 1: purell like this, and he looked terrified, like I think
30:24
Speaker 1: I've been kidnapped.
30:28
Speaker 2: I mean, let's be for real. He probably felt the
30:31
Speaker 2: exact opposite. Being in a car you're gonna be well, yeah, he.
30:38
Speaker 1: Was a little nervous. But then we were like, we're
30:40
Speaker 1: black mombing you, like, we've got snacks, yeah, water, We're
30:44
Speaker 1: gonna take care of you.
30:45
Speaker 2: But yeah.
30:46
Speaker 1: We we sat in the woods, and you know, it
30:48
Speaker 1: was kind of what are you doing in the middle
30:49
Speaker 1: of the woods, you know, and trying to strike up conversation,
30:52
Speaker 1: and we mentioned something about crystals and he said, I
30:56
Speaker 1: own crystal windes and we looked at him, like, who
30:58
Speaker 1: does that? And so we started showing us pictures, and
31:02
Speaker 1: you know, long story short, we stayed in touch with him,
31:05
Speaker 1: and he invited us to come to his mind as
31:07
Speaker 1: a thank you, and we went. It was about four
31:10
Speaker 1: months after meeting him. We met him and his team
31:13
Speaker 1: up in northern Nevada. We drove up this mountain to
31:16
Speaker 1: the top where there's like smoky courts, crystals everywhere, and
31:21
Speaker 1: my best friend and I looked at each other it
31:23
Speaker 1: was like, I think we're miners now, but at that moment,
31:26
Speaker 1: it was like immediately, and so we the next day
31:29
Speaker 1: we came down and you know, we're washing crystals in
31:32
Speaker 1: the sink in the hotel room, and the idea for
31:35
Speaker 1: our company was born. And so we called him the
31:38
Speaker 1: next day and we're like, we're miners now, wow.
31:41
Speaker 2: And he was like, but I kind of invited you.
31:44
Speaker 1: We're like, can't take that. We're family forever, so and
31:48
Speaker 1: now we are like we we are part owners with
31:50
Speaker 1: him of the mine in Georgia, and his whole team
31:53
Speaker 1: is like our whole team, and we go, you know,
31:56
Speaker 1: several times a year and go mine as a family.
31:58
Speaker 1: When we're in Georgia, we actually all stay in the
32:00
Speaker 1: house together, so it's like we all cook our little
32:03
Speaker 1: mining meals together and they didn't know that they were
32:06
Speaker 1: gonna have two like young black sisters. And because it's
32:08
Speaker 1: like an old it's very much an old, you know.
32:10
Speaker 1: Our most of our partners are over sixty five. Yeah,
32:15
Speaker 1: so they're like the little I love that and it's
32:20
Speaker 1: just beautiful. It's it's it's the most fun. And we
32:24
Speaker 1: get to do that, you know, several times a year.
32:26
Speaker 1: And then we've turned it into a business where we
32:29
Speaker 1: now teach kids about mineralogy. So we teach about a
32:32
Speaker 1: thousand kids a month through and connect us.
32:35
Speaker 2: With your your passion for Yeah, it like brought me
32:38
Speaker 2: full circle.
32:39
Speaker 1: Like we brought me full like absolutely full circle. When
32:42
Speaker 1: we started it, we our concept is we leave the
32:45
Speaker 1: crystals dirty and allow you to wash them yourself. And
32:48
Speaker 1: so we started doing like little pop ups and you know,
32:51
Speaker 1: doing we have like a kit that we mail out.
32:54
Speaker 1: But during the pop ups, we kept getting approached by
32:56
Speaker 1: teachers saying, my kids would love this. And so we
33:00
Speaker 1: you know, put a little plan together and started calling
33:03
Speaker 1: local schools and a couple of them took us in,
33:06
Speaker 1: you know, to test us out. And after we got
33:09
Speaker 1: the first few they just started rolling and rolling.
33:12
Speaker 2: In And this is all in Georgia.
33:14
Speaker 1: I know this is in La. I live in La.
33:16
Speaker 1: So we do it all throughout LA. So three of
33:18
Speaker 1: the major school systems in LA we're in. And we
33:22
Speaker 1: work with after school programs like Boys and Girls Club
33:25
Speaker 1: and y m c A and so we just.
33:27
Speaker 2: Like you, just like that I wanted to do I've
33:31
Speaker 2: always wanted to wash crystals.
33:33
Speaker 1: I have never done it. I brought some crystal ladies.
33:37
Speaker 1: You are.
33:39
Speaker 2: I've never done it. You know what's crazy. I'm excited.
33:42
Speaker 2: So Jazz then, and we didn't talk about this yet,
33:45
Speaker 2: but you are an amazing golfer. We didn't talk about
33:48
Speaker 2: So you didn't play basketball.
33:50
Speaker 1: I did, Yeah, I did.
33:53
Speaker 2: You did play, but you didn't pursue That's what I
33:56
Speaker 2: meant to say. You didn't pursue them.
33:57
Speaker 1: And didn't have the best team. I love, Simon.
34:01
Speaker 2: You didn't pursue basketball, but you golf. Yeah, and you're
34:05
Speaker 2: an amazing golfer. And we've worked with Jazz at our
34:10
Speaker 2: golf tournaments and she's brought her crystals and every time
34:14
Speaker 2: I'm always too busy to do it. And so I'm working,
34:17
Speaker 2: I'm running around.
34:18
Speaker 1: And so I just I can't today and make you
34:22
Speaker 1: some cool jelry out of the pieces that you guys watch.
34:24
Speaker 2: So yeah, yay, okay, let's do this. We have beautiful
34:31
Speaker 2: crystals in front of us. This is my first time
34:35
Speaker 2: having the opportunities clean and you know, make jewelry out
34:41
Speaker 2: of your beautiful crystal. So can you just walk us
34:43
Speaker 2: through jasmine, your company, how you got started, just the
34:48
Speaker 2: whole process of crystal mining and crystal cleaning and what
34:52
Speaker 2: we're going to be doing.
34:53
Speaker 1: Well, we were called because I Rock and our tagline
34:57
Speaker 1: is a new way to crystal because we're doing something
34:58
Speaker 1: a little different. We want to give back to people
35:01
Speaker 1: the same experience that we got the first time that
35:03
Speaker 1: we went mining, is really falling in love with the
35:07
Speaker 1: natural stone. So what we do is we mind them,
35:09
Speaker 1: but we leave the dirt on them. So the crystals
35:12
Speaker 1: that you have in front of you are ten twenty
35:14
Speaker 1: fifty million years old and they are still covered in
35:17
Speaker 1: that original mud. And so when we go to schools,
35:22
Speaker 1: we talk to them about like the science behind it
35:24
Speaker 1: and the mineralogy. When we go into adult venues, we
35:29
Speaker 1: talk about the spiritual connection and the chakras that they're
35:33
Speaker 1: aligned to. And the vibration that they give. But regardless
35:37
Speaker 1: of the forum that we're in, it's all about the
35:39
Speaker 1: discovery of it, because it's like you get to unearth
35:42
Speaker 1: this ten million year old gym. So that's what we
35:45
Speaker 1: have for you today is some bowls with some crystals
35:48
Speaker 1: in it. I brought some amethysts from our mind in Georgia,
35:51
Speaker 1: and we brought some smoky courts from northern Nevada, and
35:56
Speaker 1: some parado from Arizona, and some citrine from north in California.
36:00
Speaker 2: Okay, so let's walk us through back.
36:02
Speaker 1: So what so that one is the amethyst, Uh, those
36:05
Speaker 1: are from Those are from Georgia, Okay. And the next
36:10
Speaker 1: in the green is the paradi.
36:16
Speaker 2: Wow. I don't want to like drop it down, but.
36:20
Speaker 1: It's all good because they're rocks. If they fall, it's okay.
36:24
Speaker 1: The city in northern California.
36:27
Speaker 2: These are from northern cal Okay, beautiful.
36:30
Speaker 1: And the smoky courts from northern Nevada. Wow.
36:36
Speaker 2: So it's like we're giving birth.
36:38
Speaker 1: That's what we call it unearthing, or we say, you
36:40
Speaker 1: say to people like you're giving it, you're giving it birth.
36:42
Speaker 1: We're like Doula's like a crystal doula.
36:46
Speaker 2: I never knew that was the thing until now. Amazing.
36:49
Speaker 1: So the experience that you get is you have just
36:51
Speaker 1: you have some stones already that you guys picked in
36:53
Speaker 1: your bowls, and I want you to put a little
36:54
Speaker 1: bit of water in each of your balls. And you
36:56
Speaker 1: can do this at home because we do kit We
36:57
Speaker 1: sell kits online and we also do them as like
36:59
Speaker 1: live live demonstrations.
37:01
Speaker 2: So where can people get this online?
37:03
Speaker 1: And how much water just to you can just cover
37:05
Speaker 1: the rocks just enough to cover your oh, to cover
37:07
Speaker 1: the rocks completely, okay, got to cover them completely?
37:10
Speaker 2: Okay? More okay? And how can we get a kid?
37:13
Speaker 1: And because I rock dot com okay, and we also
37:16
Speaker 1: sell them on Amazon, so just let us up on Amazon.
37:19
Speaker 2: We're picking our crystals. How do you like lag are
37:23
Speaker 2: we supposed to be feeling? What's the art behind? Yes?
37:26
Speaker 2: And our crystal?
37:27
Speaker 1: Our motto is this rock chose you? Okay, because we
37:31
Speaker 1: feel like this life chose us. Wow. So the the
37:35
Speaker 1: I always say that they wink at you, Like the
37:37
Speaker 1: ones that want to go home with you are looking
37:38
Speaker 1: at you right now. They're like, hey, this is the one,
37:41
Speaker 1: this is good. I know when you guys were selecting them.
37:43
Speaker 1: While we were doing this, you looked over it, tod,
37:45
Speaker 1: I want this one. Yeah, and that's the one that
37:46
Speaker 1: was calling you so yeah. I think that the rocks
37:49
Speaker 1: kind of find their way to the right people, just
37:52
Speaker 1: like the life found its way to us. I love that,
37:54
Speaker 1: all right. So you've got your water in there, and
37:56
Speaker 1: I want you to pick up the little bottle that
37:58
Speaker 1: says shine right, the other one that's just shine. Oh,
38:01
Speaker 1: and we're gonna put a little drop. I mean it's
38:03
Speaker 1: just clean. I'm sorry, I clean. Yeah, clean.
38:05
Speaker 2: We don't need not shine yet.
38:07
Speaker 1: Clean first, and we're gonna put a couple drops and
38:11
Speaker 1: just want to get it nice and sudsy. You can
38:12
Speaker 1: squeeze it in there, you put there. Yeah, And we're
38:17
Speaker 1: gonna pick up our crystals with our left hand and
38:20
Speaker 1: are brush with our right hand and just brush it
38:22
Speaker 1: like you're brush on your teeth.
38:23
Speaker 2: Okay, cool? Now, is there science behind the left and
38:25
Speaker 2: the right hand?
38:26
Speaker 1: No, just most people are right handed. If you're if
38:28
Speaker 1: you're left handed, then do it the other way.
38:30
Speaker 2: So when you're going to different places, like you said
38:33
Speaker 2: Nevada and California, is the soil different?
38:36
Speaker 1: Do you find or what is that like, yeah, each
38:38
Speaker 1: environment is completely different. So like our our Georgia mine
38:41
Speaker 1: is actually under a lake. Oh wow, and they clean
38:44
Speaker 1: off pretty easy. So once you see the the dirt
38:46
Speaker 1: go off, you can put it on your paper towel
38:48
Speaker 1: and pick up your next one. So the yeah, the
38:51
Speaker 1: Georgia mine is under a lake, so we drain the
38:53
Speaker 1: water out of there twice a year and get down
38:55
Speaker 1: in the bedrock and mine in the dirt, where like
38:57
Speaker 1: the Nevada one is at the top of a mountain,
39:00
Speaker 1: so you're in a real dry kind of mud dirt
39:02
Speaker 1: rather than the mud that we get to in Georgia.
39:04
Speaker 2: And did you say there was a certain time of
39:06
Speaker 2: the year that you do this.
39:07
Speaker 1: Yes. We are a small mining operation and it's quite
39:12
Speaker 1: expensive to mine every day because we use full equipment.
39:16
Speaker 1: So we only open the mines for about six to
39:18
Speaker 1: four to six weeks twice a year, and we do
39:22
Speaker 1: it in seasons that are that are more more pleasant
39:27
Speaker 1: are what are So in Georgia we go in the
39:29
Speaker 1: late spring because summertime is awful, and then we go
39:33
Speaker 1: like early fall, okay, so we avoid that winter the
39:36
Speaker 1: winter months in the summer months, and the same thing
39:38
Speaker 1: in Nevada we do a little shift to season, but
39:41
Speaker 1: in the summer it's way too hot and in the
39:43
Speaker 1: dead of winter it's under ten feet of snow.
39:45
Speaker 2: Wow, So we have to kind of go around that,
39:47
Speaker 2: and you turn these into beautiful jewelry.
39:49
Speaker 1: Yes, so you're wearing I'm wearing some now with our jewelry.
39:54
Speaker 1: We partnered with a jewel jewelry partner about three years ago.
39:59
Speaker 1: We met her an event and she came over and said,
40:01
Speaker 1: I want to buy some stones from you. We said,
40:03
Speaker 1: you can't, but we can do a partnership. She actually
40:06
Speaker 1: used to do all the jewelry for The Bachelor, so
40:09
Speaker 1: she's been around a long time and has a beautiful collection.
40:14
Speaker 1: But now she does an exclusive collection for us. She's
40:16
Speaker 1: become like our third sister. So what we do at
40:19
Speaker 1: events is we allow people to wash crystals and then
40:21
Speaker 1: after they wash them, oh, that one came out beautifully.
40:25
Speaker 1: After they wash them, we give you the opportunity to
40:29
Speaker 1: turn it into a custom piece. So it takes about
40:32
Speaker 1: four to six weeks to get it back to you,
40:35
Speaker 1: but it allows you to design something, so you really
40:37
Speaker 1: go from birthing it to creating somebody that you can
40:40
Speaker 1: wear all the time.
40:42
Speaker 2: Can't you show the camera your pieces that you have
40:45
Speaker 2: that you're wearing. Oh yeah, I'm black, Mommy my crystals.
40:48
Speaker 1: You guys, I'm like, some people take two seconds and
40:54
Speaker 1: some people can stay there for hours.
40:56
Speaker 2: You know, there's something therapeutic about that.
41:00
Speaker 1: Sitting here. Until you do it, you don't get it.
41:02
Speaker 1: But when you're doing it, you realize it's very calming.
41:06
Speaker 1: And and then you're the first human to see what
41:09
Speaker 1: these look like.
41:10
Speaker 2: So, like, there's like different spots, So how do you
41:13
Speaker 2: know if it's like dirt or if it's going to
41:14
Speaker 2: like stay.
41:15
Speaker 1: So a lot of the smell, like the smoky courts
41:17
Speaker 1: there has some natural iron deposits in it. In the
41:21
Speaker 1: in the business, what we use is something called iron out.
41:25
Speaker 1: It's like an acid type acid type substance that will
41:29
Speaker 1: get all those iron deposits off. That's something else that
41:32
Speaker 1: we do different is we only use natural soap to
41:36
Speaker 1: clean our crystals, so it's we don't use any chemicals
41:38
Speaker 1: on them. So that way you're still keeping that kind
41:41
Speaker 1: of natural substance that will teach you how to do
41:43
Speaker 1: it at home if you want to take it at
41:44
Speaker 1: home and clean it. People won't have a crystal that
41:50
Speaker 1: hasn't been cleaned with acid. So this is like then
41:53
Speaker 1: as natural as it gets.
41:55
Speaker 2: How's your dad done this?
41:56
Speaker 1: I actually had him to come down to the mine
41:58
Speaker 1: in Georgia. Yes, he came dressed very improperly. I'm likeedy
42:03
Speaker 1: white seekers I do. You're like, bro, they're gonna get dirty, dude,
42:07
Speaker 1: like I told you to whar something you can get dirty.
42:09
Speaker 1: And he's like, I Am not getting in that mud.
42:11
Speaker 1: But he's fascinating.
42:13
Speaker 2: What about your daughter?
42:15
Speaker 1: She so our minds are eighteen and up. Oh, okay,
42:18
Speaker 1: so she's seventeen, so she's.
42:19
Speaker 2: Not there yet.
42:21
Speaker 1: Year and we normally we like to go and stay
42:24
Speaker 1: in Tahoe when we go to the Nevada mine, okay,
42:26
Speaker 1: And it's always around her birthday, so we always have
42:28
Speaker 1: to like go around her birthday. And then mom takes
42:30
Speaker 1: the day off to go mining, and she stays with Auntie,
42:33
Speaker 1: and then Auntie takes the day off to go mining,
42:35
Speaker 1: and we still make a Tahoe vacation out of it.
42:38
Speaker 1: So the next year we're going to actually take her
42:40
Speaker 1: up with us.
42:40
Speaker 2: So where do you see yourself with this in about
42:43
Speaker 2: five years? Five to ten years?
42:44
Speaker 1: What oh I see us taking it nationwide.
42:48
Speaker 2: You know.
42:48
Speaker 1: Right now we're working on taking our our classes that
42:52
Speaker 1: we're teaching and turning it into a tool that we
42:55
Speaker 1: can send to do remotely so we can So we
42:58
Speaker 1: figured really like the dissecting frog kits that you buy
43:01
Speaker 1: for science, like buy the crystal kits for your mineralogy class.
43:06
Speaker 1: So we see, we see ourselves doing that, and then
43:08
Speaker 1: we see ourselves franchising the business out. We have something
43:11
Speaker 1: really cool called the Crystal Caboose that we drive around.
43:13
Speaker 2: La In.
43:17
Speaker 1: We dished crystals out of it, so we see building
43:20
Speaker 1: up a couple more of those and then taking those
43:22
Speaker 1: other cities. So yeah, we just wrote a children's book,
43:27
Speaker 1: so a little activity book right there that it's like
43:30
Speaker 1: all different crystal activities for the kids. So I really
43:34
Speaker 1: see like taking this giving back, you know, giving back
43:38
Speaker 1: with the kids with it. And we have a little
43:39
Speaker 1: young miners club, so we were working on planning trips
43:44
Speaker 1: for some of the younger kids to go to our
43:46
Speaker 1: tailings field. So it's like they're not in the dangerous part.
43:50
Speaker 1: They're just in the part where they can kind of
43:51
Speaker 1: sift through stuff.
43:52
Speaker 2: Makes it dangerous.
43:54
Speaker 1: It's I mean, you're out there with heavy equipment, so
43:56
Speaker 1: it's yeah, it's you know, we're fully regulated by Osha.
44:00
Speaker 1: Still told Boots full Ppe, gotta have your best helmet
44:05
Speaker 1: and make sure that you're stepping in the right places.
44:10
Speaker 1: Oh the citron, yes, m hm, that's so beautiful.
44:16
Speaker 2: So like, how do you know what to turn it into?
44:18
Speaker 2: So if you see a crystal like this, do you
44:21
Speaker 2: turn it into a ring? A necklace? Like? How does that? So?
44:25
Speaker 1: Our jeweler is she's is a visionary, So we just
44:30
Speaker 1: give her bags of crystals and let her play, and
44:32
Speaker 1: then she makes a whole bunch of samples for us,
44:35
Speaker 1: like some of the ones that you can see here,
44:37
Speaker 1: and we have those on display at events where people
44:41
Speaker 1: will look at them and say, I want something that
44:43
Speaker 1: looks like that.
44:44
Speaker 2: Yeah.
44:44
Speaker 1: So it helps us because I'm like, we can help
44:46
Speaker 1: you once you give us an idea. But she's the
44:49
Speaker 1: visionary behind how they lay. The thing that I love
44:51
Speaker 1: about what she does is she doesn't cut or polish anything. Okay,
44:55
Speaker 1: so she uses a technique called electro plating, which paints
44:59
Speaker 1: around the stone. So it really is the stone makes
45:02
Speaker 1: the style. So whether you want a ring or a
45:05
Speaker 1: necklace or so forth, that's you still have that natural
45:08
Speaker 1: stone showing through, but the stone itself like these are
45:12
Speaker 1: similar styles, but the stone itself showed does the style
45:16
Speaker 1: around it beautiful and highlights the stone like we nature
45:20
Speaker 1: did the work. So we're just trying to highlight.
45:26
Speaker 2: For hours. But I was gonna say, like this really helped,
45:29
Speaker 2: like someone like myself, I'm very anxious, so common.
45:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is say like you can't get high in
45:39
Speaker 1: your own supply. But we sit out there for it,
45:43
Speaker 1: Like we'll have meetings and we're like, we're just going
45:44
Speaker 1: to do a crystal washing. Just sit there and kind
45:48
Speaker 1: of go because it does. It soothes you in a
45:50
Speaker 1: way that you know, you wouldn't think that it would.
45:53
Speaker 2: So I can see how this is great for adults,
45:56
Speaker 2: but even definitely kids. Yeah, everybody can.
45:58
Speaker 1: Really it's no age.
46:01
Speaker 2: So once we're done cleaning, we shine.
46:03
Speaker 1: And then we're gonna put a little bit of the
46:04
Speaker 1: shine on there.
46:04
Speaker 2: On top of the crystal directly. How much do we use?
46:08
Speaker 1: You can just soak it on up on in there,
46:11
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna use your paper towel so I
46:13
Speaker 1: can do it on the paper towel like this, and
46:15
Speaker 1: then we'll use the second paper towel to just blot
46:17
Speaker 1: it off.
46:18
Speaker 2: There's one food mhm time.
46:24
Speaker 1: If you could pass mm hmm.
46:28
Speaker 2: Listen, I'm always zenned out.
46:30
Speaker 1: You have to pick your favorites and I'll make you, guys,
46:32
Speaker 1: some some necklaces, rings, whichever that's gonna ever you decide.
46:36
Speaker 2: My Lexi is gonna be so jealous. She loves jewelers,
46:40
Speaker 2: so I don't just drop it. I don't have there.
46:42
Speaker 1: And then you can use the paper towel to rub it.
46:46
Speaker 1: This is and you'll see the difference. Shine is just
46:50
Speaker 1: like food grade mineral oil. Because again, since we use
46:52
Speaker 1: have a lot of kids, we only want to use
46:54
Speaker 1: all natural stuff, keep it safe for We put the
46:58
Speaker 1: lotion on the baby exactly. You don't want ashy crystal
47:02
Speaker 1: crystals around here. This is.
47:06
Speaker 2: These are, yeah, that one gorgeous. These are. This one's
47:12
Speaker 2: gorgeous too. There's a reason why I wasn't able to
47:15
Speaker 2: do this while I was working. You needed to, I
47:17
Speaker 2: would not be working. He's watching HER's still watching crystal
47:25
Speaker 2: be like not right now, guys, I'm in my zen
47:28
Speaker 2: moment with my crystals. These are beautiful.
47:32
Speaker 1: So you get a little bit of everything from your
47:34
Speaker 1: root chakra up to your crown chakra. Okay, keep you
47:38
Speaker 1: balanced for the day.
47:39
Speaker 2: I love it well, Jassy, that was amazing. Can't wait
47:44
Speaker 2: to see our jewelry. Yes, from the crystals that we pick.
47:48
Speaker 2: Thank you, these are beautiful. As we rock because we
47:52
Speaker 2: rock and Instagram, let's shout it out real quick.
47:54
Speaker 1: The same thing, because I rock, because I underscore, I
47:57
Speaker 1: underscore rock perfect.
47:59
Speaker 2: They thank you.
48:00
Speaker 1: Yaya.
48:01
Speaker 2: All right, So let's clean up quickly and then we
48:04
Speaker 2: will do the last segment. That was so much. I
48:10
Speaker 2: feel so good. My anxiety needed that.
48:14
Speaker 1: Yes, goal achieved.
48:16
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for that so much. So you've
48:20
Speaker 2: talked about your dad, and you've talked about your mom,
48:24
Speaker 2: and you're also a mom. So let's just talk about
48:27
Speaker 2: miss London for a minute. Would you like to if
48:31
Speaker 2: she were sitting right here? Yes, what would you say
48:33
Speaker 2: to her right now?
48:34
Speaker 1: Oh? I would tell her that she is a gift.
48:39
Speaker 1: She's taught me to be a warrior mom. My daughter
48:43
Speaker 1: has special needs, so she's a has down syndrome and
48:47
Speaker 1: she taught me that that doesn't define who you are
48:51
Speaker 1: and is the strongest person that I know. So, like,
48:54
Speaker 1: I get teary just singing about her because she's she's
48:57
Speaker 1: a She's a warrior like that one right there, and
49:01
Speaker 1: I look at she's a queen and I tell her
49:06
Speaker 1: that all the time, that she's unstoppable.
49:08
Speaker 2: I've seen her on your Instagram, and I can tell
49:11
Speaker 2: that she runs the place and runs the house. I
49:13
Speaker 2: can tell that she gets that feistiness, that warrior mentality
49:18
Speaker 2: from her grandfather and her mother. And she's funny and
49:21
Speaker 2: she's fascial. She is very paciable, very fashionable, beautiful. So
49:26
Speaker 2: if there was one sentence or one question, or one
49:29
Speaker 2: not question, one sentence or something you could say to
49:31
Speaker 2: your dad, h what would that be?
49:35
Speaker 1: Thank you? You know, like thank you for giving me
49:41
Speaker 1: the foundation and the strength to know who I am. Yeah,
49:48
Speaker 1: it's girls need their dads, they do, and I think
49:51
Speaker 1: that when their dad's believe in them, it helps you
49:55
Speaker 1: to believe in yourself, you know. So thank you, Thank
49:58
Speaker 1: you daddy.
50:00
Speaker 2: These girls up here, oh god, it's dangerous. I'm sure
50:04
Speaker 2: my dad scratches his head all the time. I wish
50:06
Speaker 2: I had a son. No, I doubt that's serious.
50:10
Speaker 1: Boys are hard, believe me.
50:12
Speaker 2: I just feel like dads and daughters. I know I'm
50:14
Speaker 2: such a daddy's girl, but I'm sure there's times where
50:17
Speaker 2: my dad when we were growing up, was like, probably
50:20
Speaker 2: have more money if I had sons, but it wouldn't
50:23
Speaker 2: be that daughter is is.
50:28
Speaker 1: Yeah.
50:29
Speaker 2: I love it the way you talk about your dad
50:31
Speaker 2: and our families love each other. My dad loves your
50:34
Speaker 2: dad and vice versa. So yes, this is a family unit.
50:39
Speaker 2: And just to see all of the kids, and it's
50:42
Speaker 2: so funny our dads and our moms, you know, when
50:46
Speaker 2: they had us, we're all they were all around the
50:48
Speaker 2: same age. Yeah, and so people don't realize that the
50:51
Speaker 2: connection and our connections started way before we were even conceived,
50:55
Speaker 2: you know. And just to see what the kids are
50:57
Speaker 2: doing now, and you know, it's it's beautiful. We're all
51:01
Speaker 2: doing such amazing thing.
51:02
Speaker 1: It's a wonderful family. Yeah. Really, it's like a special club,
51:05
Speaker 1: it is.
51:06
Speaker 2: And I love seeing how the dad's even knowing and
51:10
Speaker 2: experiencing how busy they are, they still have made time
51:13
Speaker 2: to establish beautiful relationships with you know, the kids. Yeah.
51:17
Speaker 1: So I love that very well. Yeah.
51:21
Speaker 2: So our last question that we will ask you is
51:25
Speaker 2: your dad left his mark in basketball? Honestly he is
51:28
Speaker 2: doctor j doctor. How do you plan on legendizing your world?
51:35
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that I've taken the first step,
51:38
Speaker 1: you know, being like you said, the first black woman
51:41
Speaker 1: to be a domestic mind history. Yeah, so we're making
51:44
Speaker 1: history there, and it's like I want to keep trailblazing
51:47
Speaker 1: showing them that, you know, girls rock.
51:49
Speaker 2: Yes, literally, look at you literally, I love it. I
51:56
Speaker 2: love it well, Jazz, thank you so much for being
51:58
Speaker 2: hereat times. It was really fun again, such on zen.
52:03
Speaker 2: You know, I came here with a little anxiety. I
52:06
Speaker 2: got my crystals washed. I feel just renewed and ready
52:11
Speaker 2: to go. You know, we're gonna eat good after this.
52:14
Speaker 2: I just enjoy the day. Thank you, Sirius XM Studios.
52:19
Speaker 2: Jeremiah at the Wynn Hotel in Las Vegas. We've had
52:23
Speaker 2: such a great time. Oh my gosh, did we have
52:26
Speaker 2: a time. Thank you Evan and my team, Hector, all
52:29
Speaker 2: the guests, all the guests, my parents who came by
52:33
Speaker 2: family in laws, my husband, my baby, guys, everybody and everybody.
52:39
Speaker 2: We love everyone here just for Summer League, NBA Summer League,
52:43
Speaker 2: perfect time to have NBA kids on you and you
52:47
Speaker 2: and you. Yes, well, there's literally no better time than
52:51
Speaker 2: we have to make this year. Yes, I love it,
52:56
Speaker 2: Thank you and we will see you guys next time,
53:00
Speaker 2: next time.
53:00
Speaker 1: I love you.
53:02
Speaker 2: Take care of each other yeaes