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Ask Greg Cosell on Patreon: Going Through Some Of Vic Fangio's Play Calls · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

• 0:09
  Speaker 1: Frank, you're up first. Hey, Adam and Greg.
• 0:13
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, Greg, this one more than ever, because
• 0:15
  Speaker 2: I usually will ask you about player performance and whatnot.
• 0:18
  Speaker 2: I want to ask you about a call that was
• 0:20
  Speaker 2: made by Fangio in the second quarter.
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: It was the Illuminor play.
• 0:25
  Speaker 3: I was screaming as soon as I saw them aligned.
• 0:27
  Speaker 2: I go, they got three timeouts and a whole minute
• 0:28
  Speaker 2: left here in the half. I have no earthly idea
• 0:32
  Speaker 2: what his plan was defensively with the call. And I
• 0:35
  Speaker 2: know you're not in his head, but it's like, am
• 0:37
  Speaker 2: I missing something here?
• 0:39
  Speaker 1: So what happens is in cover three is because that's
• 0:42
  Speaker 1: the trip side that the jeans on because he's, you know,
• 0:44
  Speaker 1: he's a slight corner. So he he pretty much always
• 0:47
  Speaker 1: aligns to the passing strength. So what happened here, Frank,
• 0:51
  Speaker 1: is the number one receiver who's I am manner. He
• 0:56
  Speaker 1: he has to be taken by the corner Mitchell.
• 0:58
  Speaker 4: I think my question already got asked. I was just
• 1:01
  Speaker 4: going to add what you thought about Shipley as a runner,
• 1:03
  Speaker 4: the runs that I've seen of him. Um, in the system,
• 1:07
  Speaker 4: you've mentioned that Barkley, there's not really a system that
• 1:09
  Speaker 4: plays to his strengths, but I actually thought that he, um,
• 1:13
  Speaker 4: ran it pretty well. But, um, so I wanted your
• 1:17
  Speaker 4: quick thoughts on that. And then I had another question
• 1:19
  Speaker 4: about just something different, completely different.
• 1:21
  Speaker 1: Shipley is one of those guys. It's just a really
• 1:23
  Speaker 1: good football player. He's just not big enough to be
• 1:25
  Speaker 1: a feature back, you know, so he has to be,
• 1:28
  Speaker 1: he has to be a complimentary back because he's, he's
• 1:30
  Speaker 1: not naturally powerful, but he's a really good player. He
• 1:35
  Speaker 1: understands schemes. He understands how to block. I mean, obviously,
• 1:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know what would have happened on the final
• 1:40
  Speaker 1: drive if Barkley was quote-unquote healthy, but Shipley played every
• 1:44
  Speaker 1: snap on the final drive. So I don't know if
• 1:46
  Speaker 1: Barkley was healthy, if he would have been out there
• 1:49
  Speaker 1: or not.
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  Speaker 5: Watching Jalen play in this sort of timing and rhythm
• 1:52
  Speaker 5: offense has been really nice to see. It's been a
• 1:54
  Speaker 5: while since we've seen this in Philadelphia. And just in general,
• 1:58
  Speaker 5: it's kind of gone away in the NFL, and I
• 2:00
  Speaker 5: feel like I've been watching quarterback development go in the toilet.
• 2:03
  Speaker 4: I mean.
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  Speaker 5: Do you blame that on, would they just put the
• 2:06
  Speaker 5: best athlete back there and tell him to run around
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  Speaker 5: until he finds the open man and hit the open
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  Speaker 5: man sort of thing? You see it in college, you
• 2:11
  Speaker 5: see it.
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  Speaker 1: In the NFL.
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  Speaker 5: I know the NIL has a lot to do with it,
• 2:14
  Speaker 5: but with these coordinators changing every year, do you think
• 2:16
  Speaker 5: that that's part of what's going on, that these guys
• 2:18
  Speaker 5: are not developing with the same system year after year
• 2:21
  Speaker 5: after year when they can grow and they're learning a
• 2:23
  Speaker 5: new system every year or every two years, every three years,
• 2:25
  Speaker 5: whatever the case may be?
• 2:27
  Speaker 1: Boy, that's an hour conversation there, Brad. Yeah, I know
• 2:31
  Speaker 1: it is.
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  Speaker 6: Certainly.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, certainly changing up every year is not good for
• 2:35
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks at all because you're learning new terminology. You know,
• 2:39
  Speaker 1: you've got to call plays in the huddle, you know,
• 2:41
  Speaker 1: and you've got to understand all that stuff and say
• 2:43
  Speaker 1: it with conviction. And then there's always alerts and there's always,
• 2:47
  Speaker 1: you know, sometimes there's two or three plays that not
• 2:49
  Speaker 1: plays that are called, but but alerts. So there's like it's.
• 2:53
  Speaker 1: What a lot of people don't think about, and Caleb
• 2:55
  Speaker 1: Williams really struggled with this last year through the first
• 2:59
  Speaker 1: part of the season, is what we call the operational
• 3:01
  Speaker 1: part of the position.
• 3:04
  Speaker 7: Another question on the O-line, I guess. I know I've
• 3:06
  Speaker 7: been beating this to death, but I guess I'm just
• 3:08
  Speaker 7: curious as a whole, not so much on Kendall or Juergens.
• 3:13
  Speaker 7: I know they had some problems on Sunday, but what
• 3:17
  Speaker 7: about the other linemen? Are they struggling in the new scheme,
• 3:19
  Speaker 7: or is it? Is it maybe physical limitations for them?
• 3:24
  Speaker 7: It just doesn't seem like anybody's blocking all that well
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  Speaker 7: in the run game.
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  Speaker 1: The way I'd answer that is this. I've been fortunate
• 3:31
  Speaker 1: enough in my career to go to an event called
• 3:33
  Speaker 1: O-Line Masterminds. And all offensive line, and there's Hall of
• 3:37
  Speaker 1: Fame offensive linemen that are there that talk. I get
• 3:40
  Speaker 1: to talk to them all. The one word that constantly
• 3:42
  Speaker 1: comes up is cohesion. So it's rarely about one guy
• 3:47
  Speaker 1: in your offensive line, Sean. It's cohesion. And now you
• 3:50
  Speaker 1: have a new center. and the center now playing left guard.
• 3:53
  Speaker 1: So you're going to have missteps. It's just the way
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  Speaker 1: it is.
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  Speaker 6: To my untrained eye, I thought they missed a lot
• 4:00
  Speaker 6: of tackles Sunday. And I don't know if you got
• 4:04
  Speaker 6: that same impression, Greg, from what you saw on tape,
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  Speaker 6: but that was what I saw live. And maybe it
• 4:11
  Speaker 6: was because some of those, what was that, third and 22,
• 4:13
  Speaker 6: and they run a draw play, and it was just.
• 4:16
  Speaker 1: He's going back to one late in the game.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it just felt like they were their run fits
• 4:22
  Speaker 6: were off or the guy that was supposed to be
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  Speaker 6: fitting just didn't didn't hit his tack, didn't make his
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  Speaker 6: tackle or even slow the guy down somewhat.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 6: Pollard is not a big guy. He's not.
• 4:36
  Speaker 1: No, no. I mean, I can understand your point because
• 4:39
  Speaker 1: there were two or three runs where it absolutely looked
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  Speaker 1: like that. I didn't get the feeling that the whole
• 4:43
  Speaker 1: game was like that. Rick, maybe you had a different
• 4:45
  Speaker 1: feeling being in the stadium. You know, there's a whole
• 4:47
  Speaker 1: different feeling being in a stadium, watching a game than
• 4:49
  Speaker 1: there is with me sitting and watching tape. But I
• 4:52
  Speaker 1: felt there were a couple of runs where that was
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  Speaker 1: the case, but I didn't see that as a game-wide trend.
• 4:58
  Speaker 1: Did you think that they would have tried Kendall at
• 5:01
  Speaker 1: guard if he was ready? Kendall's not a guard. Pretty
• 5:04
  Speaker 1: much everybody thought that when he came out of BC.
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  Speaker 1: He's a center-only type player. He would need a lot
• 5:09
  Speaker 1: of work at guard. I'm sure they're doing some cross-training.
• 5:12
  Speaker 1: but he's probably not ready to do that.
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  Speaker 7: What did you see from the offensive line in terms
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