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What Men’s Style Can Teach You About Decorating a Room · Repcolite Home Improvement Show

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Speaker 1: And right off the bat, I want to let you
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Speaker 1: know this one's going to be a rerun, but it's
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Speaker 1: a good one. It's a good rerun. I picked one
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Speaker 1: of my favorite episodes from last year. We'll get to
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Speaker 1: that in a minute. But before we do, it's daylight
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Speaker 1: saving time today, tonight, tomorrow morning, however you think about that.
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Speaker 1: You've got to set the clocks back an hour. We
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Speaker 1: fall back. And I only bring it up because kind
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Speaker 1: of funnily enough, I celebrated, if that's the right word,
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Speaker 1: daylight saving time last weekend. I was completely convinced it
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Speaker 1: was daylight saving time. And I didn't think to look
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Speaker 1: it up to confirm that that was in fact the case.
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Speaker 1: So I stayed up crazy late Saturday night expecting that
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Speaker 1: extra hour of sleep. Woke up Sunday morning not feeling
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Speaker 1: as refreshed as I thought I would. Checked the clocks.
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Speaker 1: And slowly the dawning realization set in that I had
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Speaker 1: made a huge mistake and that I had texted the
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Speaker 1: entire family to let them know it's daylight saving time.
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Speaker 1: Set your clocks back an hour. I did that all
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Speaker 1: last week. So this week I'm getting to bed early.
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Speaker 1: I'm getting that extra hour of sleep for sure. All right,
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Speaker 1: let's get to the show. Now this week I'm going
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Speaker 1: to be stepping way outside of my comfort zone. I'm
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Speaker 1: going to be talking about fashion and not just fashion. Um,
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Speaker 1: It's almost embarrassing to say this out loud. I'm going
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Speaker 1: to be dishing out fashion advice to men. I'm going
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Speaker 1: to help you guys be better dressed people. It is
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Speaker 1: literally an insane concept. You should see what I'm wearing
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Speaker 1: right now. Jeans with holes, an old sweatshirt. I think
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Speaker 1: there's salsa stains on it or it's blood. I don't know,
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Speaker 1: probably a combination. But I really do have some good
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Speaker 1: stuff that I'm going to convey. And of course, I
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Speaker 1: got it all from doing a lot of research. Don't worry,
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Speaker 1: this is not coming from me alone. It's not that
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Speaker 1: I know any of this stuff. I researched it and
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Speaker 1: it's good stuff. And if you've ever wished that you
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Speaker 1: could dress with just a little more style, a little
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Speaker 1: more panache, you know, or whatever that word is, I
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Speaker 1: can help. And of course, as we do all of that,
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Speaker 1: I'm going to make each point, you know, I'll talk
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Speaker 1: about clothing styles and fashion. But of course, I'll be
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Speaker 1: making a complimenting point about home improvement stuff. Now, it
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Speaker 1: sounds weird, maybe, but it's going to work. Trust me,
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Speaker 1: it's going to be good. So hang out for that.
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Speaker 1: But right now, before we get to all of that brilliance,
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Speaker 1: I want to talk about one of the most underrated
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Speaker 1: tools in any homeowner's arsenal or what should be in
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Speaker 1: any homeowner's arsenal, the circular saw. And I'm going to
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Speaker 1: be straight up honest. For years, I was like freaked
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Speaker 1: out by these things. You know, they're loud. They're aggressive.
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Speaker 1: You know, they look dangerous, crazy dangerous. So I avoided
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Speaker 1: them like the plague. Instead, I'd use my little benchtop
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Speaker 1: table saw or my little miter saw for everything, even
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Speaker 1: when it made zero sense. But here's what I've learned
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Speaker 1: through all of my many years, you know, my many
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Speaker 1: years of accumulating wisdom. I've learned that if you spend
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Speaker 1: time around professional carpenters or even really well-established DIYers, people
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Speaker 1: who know what they're doing, you're going to notice that
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Speaker 1: a circular saw is a tool that they're reaching for
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Speaker 1: all the time. And there's a reason they're doing that.
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Speaker 1: And that's what I want to talk about today. All right.
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Speaker 1: Before I jump into all of that, I want to
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Speaker 1: get this out of the way right away because I
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Speaker 1: don't want the emails. I know that a good table
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Speaker 1: saw is going to give you the most precise cuts,
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Speaker 1: you know, especially for repeat work. And yes, A track saw,
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Speaker 1: another option, a track saw system, you know, like something
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Speaker 1: from Festool or Makita, it's going to deliver laser straight
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Speaker 1: accuracy for breaking down sheet goods. I get all of that.
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Speaker 1: But those aren't the tools that most DIYers own or
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Speaker 1: can afford to buy. Now, lots of us have small
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Speaker 1: benchtop or contractor saws squeezed into the corner of a garage.
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Speaker 1: And if that's what you've got and you've ever tried
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Speaker 1: to push like a four by eight sheet of plywood
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Speaker 1: through one of those things, you know how awkward and
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Speaker 1: death defying that can be. You know, I've had sheets
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Speaker 1: bind and kick back on me. It's terrifying. All right.
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Speaker 1: That's where the circular saw changes things. It's portable. It's versatile.
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Speaker 1: And with the right accessories, you know, guide rails, straight edges,
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Speaker 1: things like that, it can be ridiculously accurate. You know,
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Speaker 1: maybe not furniture-grade accuracy, but you're still going to get
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Speaker 1: more than enough accuracy for pretty much everything you do
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Speaker 1: around your house. Now, let's talk about types before we
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Speaker 1: get into some of the things that you can do
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Speaker 1: with a circular saw. There's two main types out there.
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Speaker 1: There's a sidewinder and a worm drive. Now, the sidewinder,
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Speaker 1: it's lighter, you know, maybe 7 to 9 pounds, and
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Speaker 1: the motor sits beside the blade. It spins fast, usually
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Speaker 1: maybe 5,000 to 6,000 RPMs. and it's the most common
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Speaker 1: homeowner saw. It's what you think of most likely when
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Speaker 1: you think of a circular saw. The Worm Drive circular
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Speaker 1: saw has the motor in line with the blade, so
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Speaker 1: it's in the back a little bit. It's a heavier saw,
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Speaker 1: maybe 10 to 13 pounds. It runs slower, not as
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Speaker 1: many RPMs, but it's got a lot more torque. The
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Speaker 1: inline design also gives you a much clearer view of
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Speaker 1: your cut if you're right-handed. If you're left-handed, it's a
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Speaker 1: little harder to see, but if you're right-handed, you've got
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Speaker 1: a really nice straight-on look at the cut that you're making. Now,
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Speaker 1: both of these different types have their place. For most homeowners,
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Speaker 1: a sidewinder is going to be perfect, lighter, less fatiguing.
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Speaker 1: But if you're ripping through heavy lumber or engineered beams
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Speaker 1: or things like that, that worm drives torque is a
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Speaker 1: real advantage. Now, either way, getting a saw, look for
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Speaker 1: a seven and a quarter inch blade. That's the standard size.
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Speaker 1: You know, you can get littler ones that are for
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Speaker 1: more intricate work. But if you're looking for a good
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Speaker 1: all around circular saw, make sure it's that seven and
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Speaker 1: a quarter inch blade size. It's going to cut clean
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Speaker 1: through a two by four at any angle. It's just
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Speaker 1: going to be the most convenient to work with. All right.
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Speaker 1: So those are circular saws. Those are the main options
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Speaker 1: out there. Let's talk about some of the specific things
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Speaker 1: that they can do. First off, they're great with cross cuts.
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Speaker 1: You know, grab a speed square as a guide and
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Speaker 1: you can make perfectly square cross cuts faster than you
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Speaker 1: can walk a board over to a miter saw. Now
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Speaker 1: let's talk about rip cuts. you know, running the length
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Speaker 1: of a piece of wood. This is where the circular
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Speaker 1: saw really, really shines. And I think for ripping big
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Speaker 1: sheets of plywood, this potentially could be even safer than
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Speaker 1: a big table saw. It's for sure safer than a
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Speaker 1: little bench saw, especially if you're working alone or in
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Speaker 1: a tight space. You know, I've fought full sheets through
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Speaker 1: a benchtop saw. I've even done full sheets through a
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Speaker 1: table saw and I've had them bind and then they
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Speaker 1: can kick back and they can kick back hard. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's terrifying. when this happens, if you don't have all
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Speaker 1: the safety mechanisms in place, which of course we do.
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Speaker 1: With a circular saw, you just lay the plywood on
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Speaker 1: a few sacrificial two by fours, clamp your guide down
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Speaker 1: and then make the cut right where it sits. Again,
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Speaker 1: you're not wrestling with it. You're not worried about kickback.
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Speaker 1: You're just making clean, controlled cuts. Every circular saw, they're
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Speaker 1: going to let you tilt the base for bevels. You
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Speaker 1: can usually get up to like 45 degrees. You can
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Speaker 1: even make shallow dados or notches by making a few
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Speaker 1: careful passes, you know, if you had to. It's not
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Speaker 1: a substitute for a table saw dado stack or anything
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Speaker 1: like that, but for quick, rough carpentry, it does work.
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Speaker 1: You can make it work. Now, finally, because the saw
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Speaker 1: goes to the material, you know, you're bringing the saw
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Speaker 1: to the project, you can cut boards or siding right
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Speaker 1: in place. You're not walking back and forth to your
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Speaker 1: chop saw. So this is perfect, perfect for deck projects,
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Speaker 1: siding projects, you know, building a shed or anything like that. Now,
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Speaker 1: all right, as we get to the end of this,
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Speaker 1: something that really is going to help you elevate your
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Speaker 1: experience of using a circular saw are going to be
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Speaker 1: some add-ons. I've talked about some of these all segment long.
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Speaker 1: I just kind of dropped names, but I want to
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Speaker 1: point them out specifically just for a minute because they're really,
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Speaker 1: really valuable. You know, first off, a speed square, you know,
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Speaker 1: a good seven inch rafter square is your best friend for,
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Speaker 1: you know, quick, accurate cuts. You hook it up, you
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Speaker 1: line it up, and you've got a perfect 90 or
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Speaker 1: 45 degree cut every time. So a speed square, get
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Speaker 1: one of those. Second, a straight edge or a track guide.
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Speaker 1: This is how you get pro level accuracy. You know,
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Speaker 1: you could buy commercial tracks, Makita, DeWalt and others. They
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Speaker 1: make them, they start around, you know, 150 to 200,
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Speaker 1: something like that. Craig, K-R-E-G, has a number of offerings
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Speaker 1: and I've seen those starting as low as 50 bucks,
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Speaker 1: you know, somewhere in that range. You can buy tracks
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Speaker 1: that will help you You know, make sure you're getting straight,
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Speaker 1: consistent cuts. Or if you don't want to make that purchase,
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Speaker 1: you can always make your own if you've got some
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Speaker 1: scrap plywood lying around. You know, there's a lot of
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Speaker 1: plans online that will walk you through the process, what
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Speaker 1: you need to do. I'll link to one of them,
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Speaker 1: one particular one in the show notes if you want
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Speaker 1: to check it out. And that one talks about how
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Speaker 1: to make your circular saw into a DIY track saw.
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Speaker 1: It's definitely worth checking out. So I'll put that link
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Speaker 1: or that video in the show notes. Dig into that
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Speaker 1: afterwards a little bit. Another add-on that you'll want or
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Speaker 1: need are quality blades. The blade that your saw came with,
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Speaker 1: it's really going to be for rough framing lumber, period.
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Speaker 1: If you want cleaner cuts, you're going to want to
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Speaker 1: step up to a 40-tooth carbide blade for general work
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Speaker 1: or even a 60- to 80-tooth for plywood and finish cuts.
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Speaker 1: And remember, a dull blade is dangerous. It binds, it burns,
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Speaker 1: it kicks. So keep it sharp or replace it when needed.
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Speaker 1: And if you aren't aware, there are places all around
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Speaker 1: that will offer blade sharpening services. I didn't realize that
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Speaker 1: and did a quick Google. I just ran it through
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Speaker 1: the Goog and I found a number of places near
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Speaker 1: me that will sharpen blades. I had no idea. So
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Speaker 1: keep that in mind. Fourth thing you're going to want
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Speaker 1: to make sure you've got are clamps. Don't try to
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Speaker 1: hold a guide with one hand and cut with the other.
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Speaker 1: Do not do that. Just don't even picture it because
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Speaker 1: it's going to give you the willies. Just picturing that process.
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Speaker 1: Use clamps, bar clamps, C clamps, whatever you've got, but
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Speaker 1: use clamps. All right. Last thing I want to talk about,
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Speaker 1: of course, is safety. Got to be safe. Eye protection,
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Speaker 1: ear protection. You know, watch out for the cord as
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Speaker 1: you're cutting. I've seen people saw through, cut right through
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Speaker 1: their extension cords. Don't be one of those people. It's avoidable.
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Speaker 1: It's dramatic, and it's avoidable. You don't want that. So
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Speaker 1: watch out for that cord if you're using a corded device.
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Speaker 1: Another thing, let the blade stop completely before you set
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Speaker 1: the saw down. And here's where some newer saws really shine.
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Speaker 1: Many of them have electric brakes that stop the blade
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Speaker 1: in about a second or two after you release the trigger. Now,
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Speaker 1: they cost a little bit more, but they can be
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Speaker 1: worth it, especially if that blade guard, every saw has
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Speaker 1: a blade guard that will swing back. It's spring-driven, and
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Speaker 1: it will pop back into place Once you're done with
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Speaker 1: your cut, every now and then that guard can stick
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Speaker 1: and it doesn't cover the blade again. So you've got
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Speaker 1: to be mindful to let that blade stop completely before
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Speaker 1: you set it down or invest in a circular saw
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Speaker 1: that has one of these electric brakes, but still make
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Speaker 1: sure that the blade stopped before you set it down.
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Speaker 1: Keep both hands on the saw. That front handle on
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Speaker 1: it is there for a reason. And if the saw
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Speaker 1: starts bogging or binding, just stop. You've got to figure
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Speaker 1: out why it's doing that before you force it through
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Speaker 1: the cut. That's how you keep things safe. Basically, treat
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Speaker 1: it with respect, stay alert, and you'll be fine. I
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Speaker 1: know they're intimidating a little bit, but if you treat
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Speaker 1: it with respect, stay alert, you'll be fine. All right,
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Speaker 1: circular sauce. If you don't have one, look into it.
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Speaker 1: You'll use it for so many projects throughout the years
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Speaker 1: around your house. All right, let's take a break. And
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Speaker 1: when we come back, I am going to be dishing
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Speaker 1: all kinds of brilliant information for the better dressed man
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Speaker 1: out there. If you want to be one of the
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Speaker 1: better dressed men on your block, I've got the scoop,
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Speaker 1: and that's all coming up next. Stick around. Home in
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Speaker 1: Progress is brought to you by Repco Light Paints and
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Speaker 1: Benjamin Moore. You know, people often think of paint as
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Speaker 1: just another line item on the project supply list, but
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Speaker 1: here's the thing. Everything you do, every hour of prep,
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Speaker 1: every stroke of the brush, all comes down to the
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Speaker 1: quality of the paint. The paint is the project. Make
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Speaker 1: sure it's the best. All right, it's time for me,
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Speaker 1: Dan Hanson, to dish out Fashion advice to the well-dressed
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Speaker 1: men out there, the people who want to be well-dressed men.
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Speaker 1: Hopefully you're scooting your chair just a little closer to
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Speaker 1: the radio box and you're listening with rapt attention to
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Speaker 1: all the gold that is going to be dripping from
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Speaker 1: my mouth, I guess. I don't know. Anyway, let's get
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Speaker 1: on with it. A few weeks ago, I talked about
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Speaker 1: how my daughter got married. You know, recently she got married.
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Speaker 1: And of course, for the wedding, everybody got dressed up, right?
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Speaker 1: And for the first time in probably 20 years, I
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Speaker 1: found myself wearing a suit. I felt like a very
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Speaker 1: short and a little portly version of James Bond, you know,
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Speaker 1: but still I did have that James Bond feel. It
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Speaker 1: was kind of fun. But on top of that, I
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Speaker 1: also got to see my sons dressed in suits or
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Speaker 1: tuxes or whatever they were for the first time, really
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Speaker 1: for the first time. But my daughters looked great and
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Speaker 1: all of that. I'm not dissing on them. It's just
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Speaker 1: that we're talking men's fashion here. So I'm focusing on
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Speaker 1: the dudes. Anyway, my kids looked great. My sons look great.
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Speaker 1: My girls look great, too, just in case they listen.
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Speaker 1: They never listen to the show. But just on the
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Speaker 1: off chance, they were amazing. They were beautiful. But my sons,
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Speaker 1: they look great, too. And they looked a lot better
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Speaker 1: than I did. In fact, at the reception, as we're
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Speaker 1: all hanging out, kicking back, having a big time, somebody
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Speaker 1: walks up to my middle son and and compliments him
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Speaker 1: on his clothes. And in fact, this person said something
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Speaker 1: that really stuck with me. He said, lots of people
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Speaker 1: can put a suit on, but not as many people
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Speaker 1: can really wear a suit or something like that. It
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Speaker 1: was really smart. And then he told my kid that
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Speaker 1: he was one of those people who were really able
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Speaker 1: to wear a suit. That was a great compliment, and
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Speaker 1: it got me thinking. I just wish I knew what
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Speaker 1: it took to dress well. Because honestly, and I'm sure
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Speaker 1: this will come as a profound surprise to pretty much
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Speaker 1: everybody listening, but I don't dress well at all. I've
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Speaker 1: got some decent things, a couple of nice sweaters. I've
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Speaker 1: got some khaki pants and all, but I don't dress well.
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Speaker 1: I just don't know what to do. That's the idea anyway.
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Speaker 1: And most of the time that's okay. It's not like
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Speaker 1: I've got loads of reasons to dress impeccably. You know,
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Speaker 1: I mean, for starters, I work in a warehouse largely
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Speaker 1: by myself. There are mice, two less mice than there
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Speaker 1: were earlier in the week, thanks to some well-placed mouse traps.
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Speaker 1: But really, I work with mice, machinery, and that's pretty
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Speaker 1: much it. Not many people. And when I go home,
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Speaker 1: I go home to the kids who really don't care
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Speaker 1: if I'm wearing sweatpants or jeans with holes in them
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Speaker 1: as long as I'm not just sitting around in my underpants. Right.
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Speaker 1: So I don't have a huge pile of reasons for
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Speaker 1: wanting or needing to dress impeccably. But there is something
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Speaker 1: inside that says, wouldn't it be nice if you didn't
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Speaker 1: look like your clothes were all hand-me-downs? And yes, yes,
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Speaker 1: it would. Internal Dan, internal monologue voice. It would be
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Speaker 1: nice if I didn't always look like a hobo. So
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Speaker 1: I'm thinking about all of that. You know, that's on
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Speaker 1: my mind. And then right on the cusp of having
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Speaker 1: those thoughts, Benjamin Moore comes out with their color of
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Speaker 1: the year for 2026, silhouette. And all of the literature
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Speaker 1: that they release about it, or most of the literature
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Speaker 1: that they release about it, talks about how a silhouette
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Speaker 1: and their choice is tied to the fashion world. You know,
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Speaker 1: they talk about how color and fashion go hand in hand.
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Speaker 1: And then in one of the release videos, I can't remember.
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Speaker 1: It might be on most of them. But one particular
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Speaker 1: one for sure that I saw, they talked about dressing
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Speaker 1: a room in the same way that we dress ourselves.
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Speaker 1: And I really, really, really like that connection. I thought
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Speaker 1: that was great. But since I have no idea how
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Speaker 1: to dress myself, you know, to look good, I know
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Speaker 1: you put your legs through the leg holes of the
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Speaker 1: pants and stuff like that. You put your underwear on first,
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Speaker 1: then your pants. I know that much about dressing myself.
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Speaker 1: But I don't know great things, great huge things about
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Speaker 1: dressing myself well. Apparently, I don't even know great huge
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Speaker 1: things about talking well. But anyway, since I don't know
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Speaker 1: all of those things, you know, and I'm not fluent
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Speaker 1: in them, how can I talk about dressing a room? Well,
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Speaker 1: that finally brings me to the bigger point that I
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Speaker 1: want to make in the next few segments. You know,
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Speaker 1: I've taken a deep dive into the world of fashion
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Speaker 1: and the art of dressing well. And I've uncovered many,
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Speaker 1: many things, many profound things that could help me if
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Speaker 1: I implement them. They can help you dress better, men
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Speaker 1: out there. And women too, maybe, maybe. You're going to
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Speaker 1: have to do the groundwork on that to fill in
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Speaker 1: the gaps. I'm talking to the dudes at this point.
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Speaker 1: But not only have I uncovered all of these hidden truths,
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Speaker 1: these secret wonders about dressing well, I've also cataloged a
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Speaker 1: number of home improvement points and lessons that we can
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Speaker 1: learn from these same fashion points. So with all that said,
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Speaker 1: let's get started. The first lesson that I've got is this,
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Speaker 1: and I should highlight right off the bat that this
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Speaker 1: is coming from this brilliant article that I found online.
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Speaker 1: It's an article in or on theessentialman.com. It's written by
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Speaker 1: Peter Guyen, N-G-U-Y-E-N, and I'll link to this article in
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Speaker 1: the show notes. All right, the first lesson that the
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Speaker 1: article has is this. You've got to realize that dressing
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Speaker 1: is a skill. It's a skill. Nobody's born with it.
17:43
Speaker 1: You know, knowing how to dress, nobody's born with it.
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Speaker 1: We don't spring from the womb with some perfectly tuned
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Speaker 1: intuition regarding how to dress well. It's a skill. You
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Speaker 1: get better with practice. And that's so important for me.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's such a real life down and dirty
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Speaker 1: place to start because as smart as I tell myself
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Speaker 1: that I am and make no mistake about it, I
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Speaker 1: tell myself I'm pretty smart. As smart as I tell
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Speaker 1: myself I am, there are a large number of things,
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Speaker 1: you know, skills that I convince myself are somehow innate.
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Speaker 1: You know, dressing well is one of them. I feel
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Speaker 1: like I'm utterly clueless when it comes to this. You know,
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Speaker 1: it's an innate skill. It's something that you just have
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Speaker 1: or you don't have. And because I don't have it,
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Speaker 1: I pretty much write it off as something I'll never
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Speaker 1: be able to do. I don't have what it takes. Now,
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Speaker 1: some people do. They just know what kind of clothes
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Speaker 1: to put with this or that. They've got a superpower,
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Speaker 1: this inherent ability. That's what I tell myself, but it's
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Speaker 1: not the truth. Nobody's born with it. We all start
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Speaker 1: in diapers. It's a developed skill. Wearing diapers is not
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Speaker 1: a developed skill. You can just fall right into that.
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Speaker 1: Dressing well is a developed skill. You learn it with practice.
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Speaker 1: And that's really good news. Because if you'd like to
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Speaker 1: dress better, to know what to put with what, if
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Speaker 1: you want to look intentional in what you choose to wear,
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Speaker 1: it's something you can learn. It's going to take time.
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Speaker 1: It's going to take practice and all of that. But
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Speaker 1: you can get there. I can get there. That ship
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Speaker 1: hasn't sailed. You know, that's the bottom line in all
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Speaker 1: of this in this first lesson. That ship hasn't sailed.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter how old you are. That ship is
19:20
Speaker 1: still in port, you know, honking its horn or, you know,
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Speaker 1: blowing its whistle. Whatever ships do, it's doing it and
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Speaker 1: you can still get on. And I'm sure that you
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Speaker 1: can see the paint and the design and the home
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Speaker 1: improvement connection in all of that, right? It's a connection
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Speaker 1: to almost everything related to life in general, but let's
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Speaker 1: just keep it to home improvement. You know, painting well,
19:46
Speaker 1: let's get specific. Painting well is a skill that you
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Speaker 1: can learn. Using saws and tools and constructing cabinets and
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Speaker 1: installing trim, all of those things are skills you can learn.
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Speaker 1: Putting together color combinations that look great, that capture the
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Speaker 1: mood and the atmosphere that you're trying to create in
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Speaker 1: a space. All of that is a skill. You know,
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Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you percentages, but so many people, you know,
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Speaker 1: way too many people write themselves off on way too
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Speaker 1: many things. You know, I hear it all the time.
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Speaker 1: I do it all the time. I've done it in
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Speaker 1: the open part of the show. You know, everything preceding this,
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Speaker 1: I've talked about how I'm not good at dressing well, right?
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Speaker 1: We write ourselves off all the time. And I really
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Speaker 1: hear it in regards to home stuff. That's one of the,
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Speaker 1: the most common areas that I hear this happening. People
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Speaker 1: say they're not skilled with painting. They're not skilled with
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Speaker 1: home repairs in general. They're not mechanical. They're not good
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Speaker 1: with their hands. All of that, you've heard it too,
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Speaker 1: hundreds of times. Everybody out there listening knows exactly what
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about. Maybe you've said it, for sure you've
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Speaker 1: heard it. But here's the thing to take out of
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Speaker 1: this first lesson. All of those things that people are
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Speaker 1: talking about, well, most of them, I can't say all
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Speaker 1: of them, but most of those things that people are
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Speaker 1: talking about that they're not good at are skills. And
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Speaker 1: all skills, I think I can say all there, all
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Speaker 1: skills are learned. They're developed. They're fine-tuned. And everybody who's
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Speaker 1: good at those things, whatever they are, everybody who's good
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Speaker 1: at those things right now, every master craftsman, every master painter,
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Speaker 1: whatever you want to imagine, every master of their craft
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Speaker 1: was new at it and stunk at it at one point.
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Speaker 1: You know, we don't spring from the womb with fashion sense,
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Speaker 1: and we don't spring from the womb with with this
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Speaker 1: inborn knowledge of how to paint ceilings, cut in around trim,
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Speaker 1: or to install tile on our backsplashes. You know, yes,
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Speaker 1: some of us maybe have certain characteristics that we're born
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Speaker 1: with that make us a little more inclined to be
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Speaker 1: able to learn certain things quicker, you know, pick things
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Speaker 1: up faster than other people. But everything is within your reach,
21:48
Speaker 1: you know. So if you find yourself sitting around like
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Speaker 1: I was after that wedding, you know, my daughter's wedding,
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Speaker 1: And if you find yourself thinking, man, I wish I
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Speaker 1: knew how to dress better. If you ever do that
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Speaker 1: with anything, you know, with design and decorating, with painting,
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Speaker 1: with woodworking, plumbing, automotive repair, anything. If you have a
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Speaker 1: desire and a wish to be better at something like that,
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Speaker 1: remember almost all of those things that you're thinking about
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Speaker 1: are skills. They can be learned. So don't waste your
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Speaker 1: time wishing when you can actually start. That's the first point.
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Speaker 1: You can learn this stuff. All right. Second point. After
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Speaker 1: saying all of that stuff about dressing well being a
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Speaker 1: skill and interior design being a skill, I can already
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Speaker 1: hear some of the objections out there. You know, I've
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Speaker 1: already hinted at some of them, but let's sum up
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Speaker 1: some of these objections with a simple phrase. I'm sure
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Speaker 1: you've heard it and it's possible you've used it. I
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Speaker 1: can learn certain hands-on skills, but personally, I just don't
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Speaker 1: have the eye for choosing colors and putting things together
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Speaker 1: in that regard, right? I don't have the eye for it.
22:49
Speaker 1: Let's go back to clothes for a minute, fashion for
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Speaker 1: a minute. because I've said the same thing many times
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Speaker 1: in regards to fashion. I don't have the eye for
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Speaker 1: putting together clothing articles that just look good together. Well,
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Speaker 1: if you're in that boat, again, let's just keep it
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Speaker 1: at clothes, at fashion for this moment. If you're in
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Speaker 1: that boat and you're thinking those thoughts, the author of
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Speaker 1: our Essential Man article says there's something to try. He
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Speaker 1: explains that he gets these objections all the time when
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Speaker 1: he's trying to help guys get better at dressing, you know,
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Speaker 1: to dress better, you know. Like I said earlier, we
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Speaker 1: all know how to dress ourselves. Most of us do.
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Speaker 1: We just don't know how to dress ourselves well. Not
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Speaker 1: all of us do. So when he's got people that
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Speaker 1: he's trying to help and they say things like that,
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Speaker 1: he says he gets the objection all the time. I
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Speaker 1: just don't have the eye for it. He tells them,
23:37
Speaker 1: take five minutes and list off a few people that
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Speaker 1: you think look good. You know, other guys who dress well,
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Speaker 1: you know, who maybe have Looks that you'd like to
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Speaker 1: emulate to some extent. Actors, musicians, you name it. Now,
23:48
Speaker 1: he tells his clients that when he's working with them,
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Speaker 1: but I'm telling you to try it right now. If
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Speaker 1: you don't think you've got an eye for fashion, just
23:55
Speaker 1: mentally list off some people that you think do have
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Speaker 1: a good eye for fashion. People that you've seen who
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Speaker 1: you think really look good in their clothes. Even if
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Speaker 1: you don't think you could pull off the look, just
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Speaker 1: create a list very quickly of a few people that
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Speaker 1: you think look great. Well, here's the thing. And this
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Speaker 1: is really kind of fun. It's like a little parlor trick.
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Speaker 1: If you created a list of people in your mind
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Speaker 1: and in your head that you think look good in
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Speaker 1: their style choices, you've just completely debunked the entire assumption
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Speaker 1: that you don't have an eye for fashion. You do
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Speaker 1: have an eye for fashion. You know what looks good.
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Speaker 1: You may not know why it works or how to
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Speaker 1: do that yourself. but you do know what looks good
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Speaker 1: to you. You do have an eye for fashion. So
24:38
Speaker 1: the second lesson or whatever you want to call it
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Speaker 1: is to challenge your assumptions, the stories that you tell yourself.
24:44
Speaker 1: The article points out that the stories we tell ourselves
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Speaker 1: are often invisible barriers that we put up to keep
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Speaker 1: us in our comfort zone. So challenge those things. You
24:53
Speaker 1: think you don't have a good eye for fashion? Chances
24:56
Speaker 1: are you do have a better eye for fashion than
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Speaker 1: you think. Don't let an excuse stop you from moving ahead. Now,
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Speaker 1: Let's translate that into the world of design and color choices.
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Speaker 1: And I'm sure you can already connect the dots here.
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Speaker 1: You can see where I'm going. People all the time
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Speaker 1: fall back on the story because we're challenging our assumptions.
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Speaker 1: We're challenging the stories that we tell ourselves. People often
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Speaker 1: fall back on the story that they don't have an
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Speaker 1: eye for choosing colors. I have been in so many
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Speaker 1: conversations about this. It's impossible to count them all. And
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Speaker 1: I'm sure you've been in conversations like this too. People say,
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Speaker 1: or you say, or I say, I don't have the
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Speaker 1: eye for putting colors together. Not like my sister, not
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Speaker 1: like my friend, not like this or that person on Instagram.
25:37
Speaker 1: You know, their rooms are amazing. Their spaces and their
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Speaker 1: color choices are mind blowing, right? They're perfect. You know,
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Speaker 1: everything they put together is like magical and I don't
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Speaker 1: know how they do it. I don't have an eye
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Speaker 1: for doing that. We've all heard those things said. And
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Speaker 1: of course, that's where you're wrong. You know, the fact
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Speaker 1: that you know this or that room or this or
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Speaker 1: that color palette looks great means you've got an eye
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Speaker 1: for it. You get it. You know what looks good.
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Speaker 1: You know what you like. You may not know how
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Speaker 1: to do it yet. You may not know all the
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Speaker 1: formulas for finding the right proportions of colors and textures
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Speaker 1: and patterns in a space, but you do have an
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Speaker 1: eye for it. So just like with clothing and style,
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Speaker 1: challenge your assumptions. Don't let a false conclusion keep you
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Speaker 1: from accomplishing things that are easily within your reach. All right,
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Speaker 1: another clothing lesson in our Essential Man article that we're
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Speaker 1: referencing here. Another lesson is that fit matters more than
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Speaker 1: everything else. You know, getting the right fit solves almost
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Speaker 1: all of your wardrobe problems. You don't need designer labels.
26:41
Speaker 1: You don't need fancy fabrics, whatever. When clothes fit, even
26:45
Speaker 1: something simple looks good. Remember my example from the wedding.
26:50
Speaker 1: I talked about it at the beginning. I was in
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Speaker 1: a suit. My son was in a suit or a
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Speaker 1: tux or whatever it was. And he got the compliment.
26:57
Speaker 1: You know, he was told that he was truly wearing
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Speaker 1: that suit. Now, what about me? I looked at myself
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Speaker 1: and him a little more closely after that comment. And
27:05
Speaker 1: here's what I found. My suit coat was longer than
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Speaker 1: it should have been. And the shoulder in the sleeves
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Speaker 1: and the shoulders didn't sit exactly right. And it's because
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Speaker 1: it came from the thrift store. Right. It was five bucks.
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Speaker 1: I was thrilled to have found this thing. But it
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Speaker 1: wasn't made for me. I fit into it, kind of.
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Speaker 1: But it wasn't, you know, truly fitted to me. It
27:29
Speaker 1: didn't sit exactly right. The pants that I wore, they
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Speaker 1: were just cheapos that I snagged on Amazon. The pants
27:36
Speaker 1: were a touch shorter than they should have been. And
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Speaker 1: my shirt, it was just one that I had at home.
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Speaker 1: So I looked fine. You know, for the most part,
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Speaker 1: I looked okay. I looked decent. My kid, on the
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Speaker 1: other hand, had to go Because he was standing up
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Speaker 1: in the wedding, so he had to go and get
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Speaker 1: fitted for his suit. And it was adjusted so that
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Speaker 1: everything was designed for him. And that made a huge
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Speaker 1: difference in how we carried off the look. Now, I'm
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Speaker 1: not saying that everything has to be professionally fitted. But
28:05
Speaker 1: when I think about my wardrobe, most of the stuff
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Speaker 1: that I've got, It's too big, you know, and lots
28:10
Speaker 1: of guys have the same issue. The baggier clothes, yeah,
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Speaker 1: they just feel more comfortable, right? We're not stretching the
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Speaker 1: seams or stretching against or fighting against the constraints of
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Speaker 1: the clothing. They're big, they're baggy, they're comfortable, but they
28:24
Speaker 1: throw off our proportions, right? They can make you look shorter.
28:28
Speaker 1: They can make you look heavier. These are all absolute
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Speaker 1: deal breakers for me. I should not be made to
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Speaker 1: look shorter and heavier. I am really working against things.
28:37
Speaker 1: when I allow my clothing to do that. I mean,
28:39
Speaker 1: I'm already behind the eight ball on some of these things.
28:42
Speaker 1: I don't need help. So fit is important with clothing,
28:46
Speaker 1: but it's also hugely important for interior design. Now, in design,
28:51
Speaker 1: the fit, and I love this point. This is one
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Speaker 1: of those aha moments that was really fun for me
28:56
Speaker 1: to think about. In design, the fit that we're talking
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Speaker 1: about is how color, furniture, and balance all work together.
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Speaker 1: So take the 60-30-10 rule, for example. It's a basic
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Speaker 1: color guideline that designers use all the time. 60% of
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Speaker 1: your space should be your main color. The walls are
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Speaker 1: biggest pieces. 30% should be a secondary color. Maybe the drapes,
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Speaker 1: you know, a rug, furniture, things like that. 10% is
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Speaker 1: your accent color. So the pillows, the artwork, other little touches.
29:27
Speaker 1: And when you keep those proportions largely in check, your
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Speaker 1: space feels calm and it feels polished and it feels
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Speaker 1: well put together. When you don't, you know, when every
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Speaker 1: color is fighting for equal attention, it feels busy and
29:39
Speaker 1: it feels off balance, no matter how nice the paint
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Speaker 1: or the furniture is. So keep that 60-30-10 rule in
29:46
Speaker 1: mind when you're putting your color schemes together. And just
29:49
Speaker 1: like clothes, furniture has to also fit the room. You know,
29:52
Speaker 1: furniture that's too big for a space isn't a good look.
29:55
Speaker 1: And also, conversely, furniture that's too small for a space
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Speaker 1: just feels awkward and weird. It's got to be the
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Speaker 1: right fit. So a good rule of thumb is this.
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Speaker 1: Large pieces, they should take up about two-thirds of the
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Speaker 1: wall that they're on. And that's going to leave breathing
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Speaker 1: room and keep the space balanced. Now, on top of
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Speaker 1: all of those things, you know, there's visual weight. You know,
30:14
Speaker 1: every room needs a mix of heavy and light pieces together.
30:17
Speaker 1: to feel comfortable. If you've got too many dark colors,
30:20
Speaker 1: too many chunky items, like if I'm sitting in the
30:22
Speaker 1: living room, it's maybe one too many chunky items. But
30:26
Speaker 1: if you've got too many chunky items, they can make
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Speaker 1: a room feel closed in. Too many delicate or light
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Speaker 1: elements and the room can feel empty. All of the
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Speaker 1: magic happens in the mix of the right amounts of things.
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Speaker 1: Solid anchor pieces paired with lighter materials, textures, or open space.
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Speaker 1: Now in the end, whether you're getting dressed or choosing
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Speaker 1: paint colors or furniture for your home or whatever, The
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Speaker 1: principle's the same. When things fit right, when the proportions
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Speaker 1: make sense, everything is going to fall into place. All right,
30:55
Speaker 1: now we're on to our fourth tip, and it's this.
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Speaker 1: Don't let trends drive your choices. Start with classic styles
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Speaker 1: that are timeless and proven. You know, trends in clothing,
31:05
Speaker 1: as in everything else, they catch the spotlight for a bit.
31:09
Speaker 1: They're everywhere you look, right? And then before long, everybody's
31:12
Speaker 1: moved on, and there are new trends out there that
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Speaker 1: are capturing everybody's interest. Now, if you want to avoid
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Speaker 1: the money pit and the exhaustion of trends, opt for
31:21
Speaker 1: clothing styles that are classic. You know, items that are timeless.
31:25
Speaker 1: A leather jacket, you know, dark jeans and boots. All
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Speaker 1: looked good in the 50s. They all still look good.
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Speaker 1: That's what our article says about fashion. Avoid the trends.
31:34
Speaker 1: Stick with the timeless stuff. Now, the paint connection is really,
31:37
Speaker 1: really obvious here. If you're trying to improve your design
31:40
Speaker 1: skills and you don't want to be repainting all the time,
31:43
Speaker 1: then watch out for trends and stick to the classics.
31:46
Speaker 1: You know, when I had my first house, the trend
31:48
Speaker 1: at that point was bright colors. You know, lime greens, yellows, blues.
31:52
Speaker 1: It was a crazy time, right? Maybe some of you
31:56
Speaker 1: remember it. But those bold colors, they were everywhere. Everywhere
32:00
Speaker 1: I looked anyway. And I was so tempted to opt
32:03
Speaker 1: for this funky lime green in one particular space. You know,
32:06
Speaker 1: I was convinced it was going to be fun. You know,
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Speaker 1: it was going to be something new. It was going
32:10
Speaker 1: to be different. Not the same old thing. My kitchen,
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Speaker 1: my dining room, whatever space it was, was going to
32:15
Speaker 1: be unique. In the end, fortunately, I decided to skip
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Speaker 1: the trend and I went with something much more classic.
32:22
Speaker 1: And as a result, I painted the kitchen, dining room,
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Speaker 1: whatever it was, and I didn't have to change anything
32:28
Speaker 1: for the next five years or so. And even then,
32:31
Speaker 1: when we changed it, it wasn't because the color wasn't
32:33
Speaker 1: really working for us. We just wanted to go in
32:35
Speaker 1: a new direction, right? Benjamin Moore's new color of the year, silhouette.
32:40
Speaker 1: It was chosen... with literally this concept in mind. You know,
32:44
Speaker 1: it's a trending color, right? It's color trends. That's what
32:47
Speaker 1: we're talking about. This is a trend, but it's a
32:50
Speaker 1: color that they chose specifically so you can live with
32:54
Speaker 1: it for a longer period of time than a typical trend.
32:58
Speaker 1: It's not something that's going to be here today and
32:59
Speaker 1: gone tomorrow. You can work with silhouette confidently and know
33:03
Speaker 1: it's going to be working for you years down the road.
33:06
Speaker 1: So keep that in mind. With clothing and colors, timeless
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Speaker 1: combinations and color schemes and styles, are really going to
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Speaker 1: help you achieve great results quickly, and you won't find
33:15
Speaker 1: yourself changing them out when the next trend drops. Now,
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Speaker 1: the fifth point or lesson or whatever you want to
33:21
Speaker 1: call it about dressing well is called the swap, S-W-A-P, trick.
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Speaker 1: And it works just as well for your wardrobe as
33:27
Speaker 1: it does for your home. And here's the scoop. Let's
33:30
Speaker 1: say your go-to outfit. Again, this all comes from the
33:33
Speaker 1: Essential Man article that I'm going to link to in
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Speaker 1: the show notes. But let's say your go-to outfit is
33:38
Speaker 1: something like a linen button-down shirt, Navy pants and white shoes.
33:42
Speaker 1: It's a classic look. It's clean. It's safe. It's reliable.
33:45
Speaker 1: But maybe you're getting a little bored with it and
33:47
Speaker 1: you want to change things up without going full fashion experiment. Now,
33:51
Speaker 1: instead of overhauling everything, just swap out one piece. That's
33:56
Speaker 1: the recommendation. Lose the linen shirt, let's say, and replace
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Speaker 1: it with a light blue one. Suddenly the outfit feels
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Speaker 1: a little bit fresh. It's still you, but it's got
34:04
Speaker 1: some new energy behind it. And once that feels comfortable,
34:08
Speaker 1: Maybe you swap out something else, maybe a patterned shirt
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Speaker 1: next time or pants in a different color. You build confidence.
34:14
Speaker 1: That's the idea. One small change at a time. And
34:17
Speaker 1: before you know it, your look has evolved without jarring
34:20
Speaker 1: your senses or, you know, more likely having a moment
34:24
Speaker 1: when you walk out of the bedroom all dressed in
34:26
Speaker 1: your new wardrobe and you find all the kids staring
34:29
Speaker 1: at you with open mouths before they run off laughing.
34:32
Speaker 1: You go slow. It's better for you. It's better for everybody. Well,
34:37
Speaker 1: that same idea applies when you're working with color in
34:40
Speaker 1: your home. If your rooms have always been beige, gray, white, neutral, whatever,
34:45
Speaker 1: and you're craving something new, don't start by repainting every
34:50
Speaker 1: wall in some new funky color that you're jumping into.
34:53
Speaker 1: Just make one swap. Bring in a new accent color
34:57
Speaker 1: with throw pillows, with artwork, with a rug. And once
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Speaker 1: that feels right, then you can take the next step.
35:03
Speaker 1: Maybe you paint a single wall. Maybe you add a
35:05
Speaker 1: colorful piece of furniture. you know, whatever. But bit by bit,
35:09
Speaker 1: you kind of expand your comfort zone. You know, you
35:12
Speaker 1: swap one thing out for something that's a little bolder.
35:14
Speaker 1: Your eye adjusts to it. You get used to living
35:17
Speaker 1: with it. And before long, you find you can make
35:20
Speaker 1: bolder choices with your colors. And maybe someday down the road,
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Speaker 1: you're even painting the trim a color other than white
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Speaker 1: or an off-white, and maybe you're wallpapering the ceiling. Who knows?
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Speaker 1: Those big dramatic changes can be incredible and They can
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Speaker 1: be game changers, but they're going to look and feel
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Speaker 1: best when you've eased your way into them. All right.
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Speaker 1: Last thing I'll bring up from the article is this.
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Speaker 1: Buy the best quality that fits into your budget. You know,
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Speaker 1: the best quality, whatever it is, that fits into your budget.
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Speaker 1: You know, there's not much reason to expand on this point.
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Speaker 1: It's really obvious in regards to clothes. The better quality
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Speaker 1: products are going to look better and last longer. They're
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Speaker 1: just made better and it matters and it shows. And
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Speaker 1: the same is true with paint, with brushes, with tools
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Speaker 1: and all of that. And I'm not necessarily talking brand
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Speaker 1: name stuff. I'm not saying buy brand names necessarily. There's
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Speaker 1: a difference between quality and name brand items, or there
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Speaker 1: can be a difference. I've seen plenty of name brand
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Speaker 1: goods that really aren't all that great at the end
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Speaker 1: of the day, not in terms of quality. I'm talking
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Speaker 1: about good stuff. Buy the best stuff that your budget
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Speaker 1: will allow. Investing in good brushes, good paint, good tools,
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Speaker 1: whether it's a saw or a socket set or even
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Speaker 1: something as basic as a hammer. Good tools make every
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Speaker 1: project easier, they last longer, and they end up saving
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Speaker 1: you money down the road. You know, good paint. It
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Speaker 1: applies easier, it covers and hides better, and it lasts longer.
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Speaker 1: If you don't want to be replacing stuff regularly, buy
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Speaker 1: the best quality that your budget allows. All right, that's
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Speaker 1: it for my fashion, fashion slash home improvement tips. Hopefully
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Speaker 1: I helped some style-impaired men out there, myself, first and foremost,
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Speaker 1: and hopefully... You all had some home improvement connections and
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Speaker 1: takeaways that you pulled out of that. All right. Once again,
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Speaker 1: that article that I referenced came from The Essential Man,
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Speaker 1: and it is really worth a read. It's a really
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Speaker 1: good article, and I've got links in the show notes
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Speaker 1: Whatever you do today, make sure paints a part of it.
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Speaker 1: Have fun if you're out trick-or-treating. Be safe. Have a
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