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Full Show Podcast: 16 October 2025 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on
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Speaker 1: Earli Ereditia with our the Supercenter, explore our v successories
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Speaker 2: Morning Thursday morning. Should we be selling more state housing stock?
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Speaker 2: Infect should we be selling all of it? Trump's basically
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Speaker 2: trying to fix the Argentinian election. We'll look at that
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Speaker 2: this morning. New numbers on big airfare, increases, the battle
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Speaker 2: between airports and are in Z carries on and we'll
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Speaker 2: talk to the guys bringing back the more.
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Speaker 1: The agenda Thursday.
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Speaker 2: The sixth thing of October. Great to have your company.
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Speaker 2: So he mus handed back four hostages bodies Israel says,
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Speaker 2: one of them.
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Speaker 3: Ain't ours clear when we say this come us?
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Speaker 4: The terror organization is required to uphold its commitments to
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Speaker 4: the mediators and return all of our hostages as part
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Speaker 4: of the implementation of this agreement. We will not compromise
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Speaker 4: on this, and we will spare no effort until our
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Speaker 4: fallen hostages return.
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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Trump has said that BB's has made be Be
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Speaker 2: not the easiest to work with, and yeah, Who's responded, Well,
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Speaker 2: hope he says.
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Speaker 5: That because I'm very tough on the matters that pretend
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Speaker 5: to my country's future. When I believe that what I'm
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Speaker 5: asked to do it is fine, I say this. And
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Speaker 5: when I think I have to say no, I say it.
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Speaker 5: And that's my job. My job is to protect the
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Speaker 5: Jewish state and assure the future of the Jewish people.
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Speaker 2: To Argentinia, we have Mlai. This is the libertarian leader
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Speaker 2: who's doing all the big reforms. Got some midterms coming up,
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Speaker 2: and Trump has stepped up with twenty billion dollars in aid.
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Speaker 2: This is basically to bail out the currency, and he's
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Speaker 2: pretty much said this is to influence the vote.
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Speaker 6: If he loses, we are not going to be generous
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Speaker 6: with Argentina.
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Speaker 3: We're going to work very.
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Speaker 6: Much with the president. We think he's going to win,
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Speaker 6: he should win, and if he does win, we're going
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Speaker 6: to be very helpful. And if he doesn't win, we're
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Speaker 6: not going to waste our time because you have somebody
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Speaker 6: whose philosophy has no chance of making argent Jenna great again.
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Speaker 2: News talks a'd be nine two nine two, just gone
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Speaker 2: eight half to five. We have more on the Argentinian
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Speaker 2: situation later in the programs. Simeon Brown is putting his
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Speaker 2: big boy pants on this morning. He's going into the
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Speaker 2: lions Den. This is to a union conference to Papa
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Speaker 2: and Wellington two hundred senior doctors. They got the strike.
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Speaker 2: They've got the mega strike coming next week, which is
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Speaker 2: all very exciting, but they've basically been at war but
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Speaker 2: sparring at a distance. Now Simeon's getting in the cage,
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Speaker 2: so'd be interesting to see that's coming after nine o'clock
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Speaker 2: this morning, and he hates it. They hate it, I
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Speaker 2: should say. Whenever he says how much they get paid,
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Speaker 2: so he always says the average pay and he always
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Speaker 2: gets in there. The teas and seys with overtime and
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Speaker 2: bonuses is three hundred and forty thousand dollars a year,
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Speaker 2: which would actually be more than he earns. Anyway, makes
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Speaker 2: them very grumpy. So it'd be interesting to see whether
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Speaker 2: he mentions that when he speaks to them and addresses
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Speaker 2: them at Papa today. Here's a question for you this morning,
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Speaker 2: which party do you most trust on an education? I
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Speaker 2: was thinking about this last night. The polls on the
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Speaker 2: economy don't exactly bode well for the coalition? Do they
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Speaker 2: all don't bode well for national in particular, I should say,
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Speaker 2: and that's no surprise. I mean, look at the economy.
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Speaker 2: The recovery's been faltering, being patchy. We've got the Reserve
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Speaker 2: Bank doing all the heavy lifting, which they've been a
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Speaker 2: little bit reluctant to do with any gusto of late
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Speaker 2: until of late. I should say, the results basically speak
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Speaker 2: for themselves. We went backwards almost a percent in quarter two.
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Speaker 2: But if you're judging the economy on results, that means
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Speaker 2: that results must be important, right, And if results are important,
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Speaker 2: you cannot deny the quick wins that Erica Stamford's having
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Speaker 2: an education? Can you turns out doing basic things regularly
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Speaker 2: and with structure gets results. Who would have thought so?
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Speaker 2: The polls on the economy are fair, But I would
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Speaker 2: love to know whether the same logic applies to education,
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Speaker 2: which is usually a default portfolio in the bag for labor.
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Speaker 1: Bryan Bridge five.
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Speaker 2: Ten on News talksb We'll head to Dallas in the
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Speaker 2: state's next talk to this biotech company about our MA
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Speaker 2: and Peter Jackson.
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Speaker 2: Five twelve at Tyndall's R three sixty thing. This drama
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Speaker 2: seems to me to just be a little over the
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Speaker 2: top and outrageous. How can you say? In New Zealand
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Speaker 2: along with part of eight national rugby organizations that have
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Speaker 2: said basically any player that plays for this won't be
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Speaker 2: selected for tests. But then you have the Aussie Rugby
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Speaker 2: League Commission come out and say we're going to go
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Speaker 2: one further. We are going to ban any player who
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Speaker 2: joins this new upstart outfit for a decade. Can you
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Speaker 2: do that? It's obviously meant as a massive threat, like
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Speaker 2: if you're off contract at the moment, or you're coming
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Speaker 2: off contract, you might be shaking in your boots a bit.
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Speaker 2: Or if I go with Tyndall and the Saudis then
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Speaker 2: I won't be able to come back here if I
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Speaker 2: need to, So it's kind of a standover tactic, isn't it.
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Speaker 2: They even this is The Aussies call this a pirate
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Speaker 2: economic outfit. They are economic pirates. Is this even legal
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Speaker 2: or enforceable. I would question that. And this idea that
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Speaker 2: you train Westment all this time, training up all these players,
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Speaker 2: and then they can't just run away and play for
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Speaker 2: someone else. That's what every business does. Think of a
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Speaker 2: law firm, they train up lawyers and then the lawyers
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Speaker 2: bugger off and work for another firm. Is this not
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Speaker 2: any different? Five to fourteen, Ryan Bridge, You remember the
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Speaker 2: American biotech outfit that wants to bring them more back
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Speaker 2: to life here in New Zealand. It's called Colossal Bioscience.
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Speaker 2: They're in Dallas. They did the dire Wolf pups. They
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Speaker 2: use ancient DNA and then they use gene editing and Huila,
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Speaker 2: they're back to life. They say they want to do
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Speaker 2: the same with the Mora and Sir Peter Jackson Ben
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Speaker 2: Lamb is their tie executive and co founder. Morning Ben, Hey,
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Speaker 2: how's it going very well? Thank you? So are you
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Speaker 2: really going to bring back the MOA or are you
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Speaker 2: going to bring back something that's kind of like the
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Speaker 2: mob but not quite the MA?
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Speaker 7: Well, I mean yeah, we're going to bring back the Moa,
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Speaker 7: just like we brought back the dire Wolves, and we're
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Speaker 7: working on mammos and dodos.
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Speaker 2: As well, but they don't you're not actually bring back
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Speaker 2: the ma, right. Like with the wolves, it's a great
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Speaker 2: wolf that has some characteristics of what has.
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Speaker 7: The genes, so it has the genes that are specific
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Speaker 7: to that of the dire wolf that made a direwolf direwolf.
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Speaker 7: And so there's about sixty thousand years of genetic divergence
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Speaker 7: between our two diarwl samples, and we have about five
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Speaker 7: hundred times more data than anyone's ever had.
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Speaker 3: On our wolves.
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Speaker 7: And so what we do at Colossal, because we're a
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Speaker 7: geno engineering company, is think of us about think of
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Speaker 7: it as like rebuilding.
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Speaker 3: Extinct species for today.
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Speaker 5: Right.
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Speaker 3: So I don't know if you've seen Jurassic Park.
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Speaker 7: We occasionally get that reference, but it's just like Jurassic
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Speaker 7: Park in that in that regard, So we identify the
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Speaker 7: core genes that make some mammoth the mammoth and la
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Speaker 7: moa direwolf darwolf and engineer them into their closest living relatives.
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Speaker 7: There's actually more genetic distance between our two dire wolves
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Speaker 7: than there are from our most recent dire wolf, which
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Speaker 7: was calved one thousand, five hundred years ago and today's
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Speaker 7: modern wolf.
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Speaker 3: And so that that's how evolution works.
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Speaker 7: There's a lot of things that are called fixed mutations
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Speaker 7: that drive core phenotypes or physical attributes, and those.
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Speaker 2: Are the things that we identify when we picture a maa.
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Speaker 2: I'm picturing it, you know, a seven meja told giant
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Speaker 2: bird running through the night of forest of New Zealand.
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Speaker 2: Is that what we'll get?
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Speaker 1: Yeah?
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Speaker 7: So, I mean it will have all the core phenotypes
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Speaker 7: that are driven by the core genes that made a
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Speaker 7: moa mo now work. There's as you probably know, there's
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Speaker 7: nine species of moa.
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Speaker 3: One yeah, no, no, no, we're focusing on the South.
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Speaker 7: Island giant moa, so the first one, which was the
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Speaker 7: biggest maha.
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Speaker 3: So that's one that we're starting with.
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Speaker 7: And then if the you know, New Zealand people, other
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Speaker 7: groups of the Malory people as well as the government
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Speaker 7: want us to work on other moss species, we'd be
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Speaker 7: open to it. But right now we're working with the
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Speaker 7: Knightsahu Research Center and specifically the South Island giamo.
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Speaker 2: Okay, and how long before we could see it running
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Speaker 2: around the bush again.
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Speaker 3: So I think it'll be a ten year project.
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Speaker 7: It's a hard project, It's not quite as hard as
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Speaker 7: some of our other projects.
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Speaker 3: But it is a very hard project. You know, there's
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Speaker 3: not great DNA. There's not been great samples.
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Speaker 7: We've now gone through and sampled, you know, over one
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Speaker 7: hundred different bones or sorry, two hundred different bones, and
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Speaker 7: so we're not collecting those additional samples. And the first
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Speaker 7: thing that we do is to collect the ancient DNA
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Speaker 7: and then we have to map it all. We have
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Speaker 7: to do genetic reconstruction of the ancient genomes and then
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Speaker 7: map it to the closest living relatives in a different
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Speaker 7: and we do a ton of genome sequencing, like in
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Speaker 7: the case the dire wolves, people mistakenly thought the dire
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Speaker 7: wolves were closely related to jackals.
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Speaker 3: Than they were wolves.
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Speaker 7: Once we go through the process of understanding the genomes,
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Speaker 7: we can actually understand specifically.
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Speaker 3: Where they far philo genetically.
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Speaker 7: So there's a lot of really great data that comes
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Speaker 7: out of this from an educational perspective in terms of
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Speaker 7: like where animals actually sit in this this tree of life.
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Speaker 3: And so that is the phase that we're into the project.
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Speaker 7: Now, as we get through that phase, will then identify
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Speaker 7: kind of like what the genetic donor will be. And
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Speaker 7: then so who were we start from an editing perspective
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Speaker 7: and then we'll start editing from there.
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Speaker 2: All right, then it sounds like you've got a lot
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Speaker 2: on your hands. Will let you get into it. That's
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Speaker 2: been Lamb from Colossal Bioscience as the CEO and co founder.
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Speaker 2: It is eighteen minutes after five.
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Speaker 1: This is news Talk said be breaking news.
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Speaker 2: Breaking news this morning, a statement from the Prime Minister.
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Speaker 2: That's the right Honorable Jim Bolger, former Prime Minister of
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Speaker 2: New Zealand, has passed away. Christopher Luxean's issued a statement
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Speaker 2: and has said that he was a towering figure in
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Speaker 2: New Zealand's political life, a leader of conviction, a reformer
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Speaker 2: of consequence, and a servant of the people whose legacy
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Speaker 2: has shaped our nation in profound and lasting ways. I
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Speaker 2: can tell you he turned ninety this year. He was
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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister from nineteen ninety through nineteen ninety seven.
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Speaker 2: Very influential leader for the country but also within the
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Speaker 2: National Party. So just repeating that breaking news this morning. Sadly,
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Speaker 2: the right Honorable Jim Bolger, former Prime Minister of New Zealand,
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Speaker 2: has died.
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Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge.
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Speaker 2: He's gone eighteen minutes after five. So we'll have reaction
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Speaker 2: to that very sad news for you this morning. Nine
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Speaker 2: two ninety two is the number to text. And also
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Speaker 2: we are going to talk about Simeon Brown heading to
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Speaker 2: the health conference. We'll talk about, oh, if you're going
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Speaker 2: to America, you want to go to America, well you
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Speaker 2: might want to be a little conservative with what you're
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Speaker 2: putting on social media because they are revoking visas left,
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Speaker 2: right and center. We'll look at that too. News Talk
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Speaker 2: News Talk said be five twenty one on news Talks.
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Speaker 2: Sa'd be the very sad news this morning that Jim
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Speaker 2: Bolger has passed away and we're getting tributes flowing. And
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Speaker 2: now this one from Winston Peters, who's our foreign minister.
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Speaker 2: And of course they had a fractress relationship through the nineties,
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Speaker 2: didn't they. But he says in his statement that from
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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety six onwards, mister Bolder and I led New
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Speaker 2: Zealand's first MMP government, which was a coalition between the
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Speaker 2: two much like the current arrangement. As the leader of
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Speaker 2: mister Bolder's coalition partner. I can attest he was a
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Speaker 2: man of his word. He did what he said he
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Speaker 2: was going to do, and we ran our coalition government
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Speaker 2: with integrity, focus and fidelity to New Zealanders who had
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Speaker 2: delivered a majority to our two political parties. He was
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Speaker 2: a proud New Zealander who served his country well as
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister. Those are the words of Winston Peter's twenty
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Speaker 2: two Minutes after.
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Speaker 1: Five Bryan Bridge.
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Speaker 2: If you feel like we're paying the highest price for
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Speaker 2: domestic airfes, you're wore not wrong. The Airport Council International
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Speaker 2: says domestic airfairs have increased sixty three percent in this
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Speaker 2: country since twenty nineteen. That's one of the biggest jumps
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Speaker 2: in the world. The report says it's mostly down to inflation,
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Speaker 2: not airport fees. Billy Moore is New Ze only the
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Speaker 2: Airport's Association Chief executive, Billy good morning, Good morning. This
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Speaker 2: report is from an It's an airport's group, isn't it?
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Speaker 2: So they would say this, wouldn't they look?
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Speaker 8: Yeah, you're right, there's a global airports group. But the
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Speaker 8: methodology is robust. It draws on the same global data
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Speaker 8: sets used by both airports and airlines around the world,
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Speaker 8: so the data is sound.
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Speaker 2: In New Zealand says, look, our costs have gone up.
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Speaker 2: That's the reason that the fares are going up. You know,
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Speaker 2: their costs are up forty percent of twenty nineteen. Their
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Speaker 2: prices are up thirty five percent.
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Speaker 8: Look, criticizing airport charges has long been a business strategy
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Speaker 8: for large airlines at every point in the cycle. But
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Speaker 8: the airport charges are not the reason. It costs one
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Speaker 8: thy fifteen hundred dollars to fly to a regional center
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Speaker 8: on average, and airport charge is about five seven percent
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Speaker 8: of a total airline operating costs. What this report is
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Speaker 8: showing us is that the New Zealand's flight cost and
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Speaker 8: increases are the highest in the region. It's sixty three percent.
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Speaker 8: It is time to look more closely at why that is.
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Speaker 8: The key driver that we see is around capacity reduction.
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Speaker 8: So as airlines reduce their capacity, they're spreading those cost
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Speaker 8: increases that they're citing over a smaller number of passengers.
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Speaker 8: That's why flights are so full, that's why in views
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Speaker 8: are so high, and we really need to see that
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Speaker 8: start to tune around.
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Speaker 2: I mean, they've got engine issues, this is what they
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Speaker 2: would argue anyway, is this just more of the it's
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Speaker 2: the airports versus the New Zealand. You know, this is
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Speaker 2: the long running saga continues.
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Speaker 8: Oh look, you know, as I see, it's long been
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Speaker 8: a strategy for them to target airports. Is the problem?
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Speaker 8: I think this that's not the case.
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Speaker 2: But your things are going up on they walking the
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Speaker 2: airport one hundred and forty four million dollars this year,
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Speaker 2: it'll be four hundred and seventy six million dollars by
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Speaker 2: twenty thirty two that they've got to pay.
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Speaker 8: It's not that is a number that the airlines have
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Speaker 8: come up with. They're also going to be making is
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Speaker 8: it wrong? Billion dollars from that amount?
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Speaker 2: Is the number wrong? Is the number wrong? How much
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Speaker 2: will they be paying in twenty thirty two if not
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Speaker 2: four hundred and seventy six million.
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Speaker 8: The reason why that's not a number that's actually out
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Speaker 8: there is because the airport test to console with the
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Speaker 8: lines before they make any decisions around those cost to
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Speaker 8: twenty thirty two. So it is a lobbying exercise from
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Speaker 8: the airlines to come up with that number.
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Speaker 2: All right, So the numbers wrong, numbers wrong? Billy, appreciate
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Speaker 2: your time this morning. That's Billy Moore and New Zealand
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Speaker 2: Airport's Association Chief Executive. Time is twenty five after five
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Speaker 2: News Talks B the early.
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Speaker 2: Talks A B, News TALKSB five twenty seven. This this
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Speaker 2: idea that our trading partners will somehow punish us for
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Speaker 2: lacking ambition on climate change. I don't think passes the
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Speaker 2: sniff test. Yes, there are some provisions and some agreements,
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Speaker 2: but they're vaguely worded enough that you can drive around them.
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Speaker 2: If the UK, or the EU, or even the Aussies
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Speaker 2: really wanted to punish us, they could. The question is
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Speaker 2: whether they would not could and why would they were
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Speaker 2: a fraction of global emissions. What difference does it make anyway?
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Speaker 2: But most importantly it'd be pot kettle black from them,
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Speaker 2: the Aussies, and we cover this at the time. So
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Speaker 2: they set their target of sixty two to seventy percent
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Speaker 2: reduction on two thousand and five levels last month. That
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Speaker 2: was lower than they were forecast to do. They were
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Speaker 2: criticized by green groups it was contrary to advice from
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Speaker 2: their equivalent of the Climate Change Commission, Naughty naughty, tisk tisk,
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Speaker 2: and the UK Star is being told to prepare the
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Speaker 2: government buildings there for temperatures of two degrees higher than
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Speaker 2: normal rather than the one point five limit that everyone's
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Speaker 2: hoping but failing to achieve. And the Big Four aren't
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Speaker 2: exactly doing their bit either. Just this morning, another new
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Speaker 2: climate report, because we get one every day. Guess what,
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Speaker 2: a record amount of emissions, the largest increase in modern
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Speaker 2: measurements since the nineteen fifties when we started doing that.
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Speaker 2: So it's not like the rest of the world is
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Speaker 2: covered in glory. It's a dog eat dog world out there,
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Speaker 2: and everyone's basically up for themselves. In New Zealand, there's
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Speaker 2: no exception. Does this mean the government's made the right call?
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Speaker 2: Can they saddle up on a high horse. No, But
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Speaker 2: it also doesn't mean we're about to get sued or
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Speaker 2: blocked by our trading partners. On news talks, they'd be
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Speaker 2: We'll stay with trade for a second because Scott Besson,
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Speaker 2: this is Trump's Treasury secretary. He's a really trusted guy.
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Speaker 2: He formed a Wall Street anyway, he's the go to
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Speaker 2: on China and trade, and they're locking heads. They're playing
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Speaker 2: that game of chicken. He has said this overnight, which
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Speaker 2: normally you wouldn't do. About in the diplomatic world, name names.
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Speaker 9: There was a lower level trade person who was slightly
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Speaker 9: unhinged here in August I think his name is Lee
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Speaker 9: Kwongong and threatening, saying that the China would unleash chaos
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Speaker 9: on the global system if the US went ahead with
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Speaker 9: our darking fees for Chinese ships.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's Scott Beson. We'll go to my US cory
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Speaker 2: after news.
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Speaker 9: That's great.
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Speaker 2: Twenty four away from six. You're on news Talk dB
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Speaker 2: tribute flowing in for Jim Bolder, former Prime minister who's
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Speaker 2: passed away. We're in the United States since South the
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Speaker 2: next fifteen minutes, and we'll talk about the state of
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Speaker 2: state housing, whether we should be owning any of it.
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Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier the US provoking visas for foreigners. So
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Speaker 2: if you are caught saying anything bad on social media
17:59
Speaker 2: about or particularly about Charlie Kirk and issue, they are
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Speaker 2: very sensitive about obviously they will revoke your visa. Basically,
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Speaker 2: that's what you're the message you're getting from the State Department.
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Speaker 2: They've done it to six people already, Argentinian, Brazilian, German, Mexican,
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Speaker 2: someone from South Africa. They've ordered their visas revoked. I'll
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Speaker 2: read you one of the posts from one of the
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Speaker 2: people who got their visa revoked. Charlie Kirk won't be
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Speaker 2: remembered as a hero. He was used to AstroTurf a
18:26
Speaker 2: movement of white nationalist trailer trash. That person can no
18:30
Speaker 2: longer travel to the United State. And you go, what
18:32
Speaker 2: about the First Amendment. Yeah, you've got the First Amendment.
18:35
Speaker 2: That's freedom of speech. But at the end of the day,
18:37
Speaker 2: it's their country and they can let it or kick
18:39
Speaker 2: out whoever they want to. And the message here is
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Speaker 2: if you criticize them too much, they'll revoke your visa
18:45
Speaker 2: or they won't let you in. It's twenty three to
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Speaker 2: six ray reporters around the country. Dunedin and Calum Good
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Speaker 2: morning morning, right, Central Otago Council elect We've got a
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Speaker 2: resignation already if we do.
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Speaker 10: This is Dave Mackenzie, who has only just been voted
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Speaker 10: in but he's quit after facing those social media allegations
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Speaker 10: of unethical conduct during his time as a council contractor,
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Speaker 10: so that will our trigger a by election in the
19:13
Speaker 10: coming months. Maya tamer Ally's told us this will come
19:16
Speaker 10: at an additional cost for rate payers, but believes it's
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Speaker 10: the best outcome. A lower export expert at Otaga University,
19:23
Speaker 10: Andrew Gettis, believes this is a bit of a national first.
19:26
Speaker 10: He can't recall any other case where someone's been elected
19:29
Speaker 10: and has pulled out before being formally sworn in. He
19:32
Speaker 10: says a by election is now legally required as a
19:35
Speaker 10: candidate can't pull themselves out of the position and allow
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Speaker 10: the person with the next greatest number of votes in.
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Speaker 2: We haven't even got the official results back yet and
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Speaker 2: already you've got one bite in the dust.
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Speaker 10: How's your weather, Charles, developing here bit clearing to find
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Speaker 10: this afternoon. We have that strong wind watch for Dunedin.
19:52
Speaker 10: Strong southwest gales to ninety k's the heigh today fifteenth?
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Speaker 2: All right, thanks Callum Courtney winter for christ Here it's Courtney,
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Speaker 2: good morning, Good morning, Ryan. People want the government to
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Speaker 2: do something with land.
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Speaker 11: Yes, So the Phillipstown Community Hub is closing in March
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Speaker 11: because the Minister of Education has decided to dispose of
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Speaker 11: the land. Former trustee Wayne Hawkers, whose locals are feeling
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Speaker 11: blindsided as a local family gifted the land to the
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Speaker 11: government one hundred and fifty years ago. He says the
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Speaker 11: community's leased it since the local school closed in twenty eleven,
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Speaker 11: but in reality the government just wanted a babysitter for
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Speaker 11: the site. Hawker has asked the Education Minister to explore
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Speaker 11: all options, including gifting it back to the city, to
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Speaker 11: allow the trust and the Hub to continue its work.
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Speaker 12: Why.
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Speaker 2: How's your weather?
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Speaker 11: Partly cloudy, a few showers from late this morning, possibly
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Speaker 11: heavy clearing, fine to early afternoon. Northwesterly is high of twenty.
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Speaker 2: All right, thanks Courtney. That's got to welling with Max.
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Speaker 2: Morning Max, Good morning Ryan. Have you raised eyebrows about
20:53
Speaker 2: that ferry builder?
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Speaker 13: Yeah, you're a China expert. Be interesting to hear your
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Speaker 13: thoughts on this. It was confirmed yesterday the shipyard that
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Speaker 13: will build our two new Cook Strait ferries for twenty
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Speaker 13: twenty nine, Guangzhou Shipyard International. Some eyebrows raised about this one.
21:07
Speaker 13: This is a Chinese state owned shipbuilder that is also
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Speaker 13: heavily involved in the country's military network. And of course,
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Speaker 13: with this battle for soft diplomacy in the Pacific Wolf warrior,
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Speaker 13: fear of Chinese espionage? Do we even want to risk it?
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Speaker 13: Not a concern for Winston Peters, he says. Guangzhou or
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Speaker 13: the GSI, apparently an international ship builder leader the military stuff.
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Speaker 13: Don't worry about that, he says. The spying, no, he says.
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Speaker 13: It is largely state owned but also partially publicly listed.
21:34
Speaker 13: It does make warships, and it is now going to
21:36
Speaker 13: make a couple of nice fairies for us with a
21:38
Speaker 13: bar and cafe. Our newsrooms are dug up an independent
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Speaker 13: US Bipartisan Research Institute report that recently warned that international
21:46
Speaker 13: customers of these guys are ultimately supporting China's defense industry.
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Speaker 13: But a deal's a deal. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: My hot take for you would be that any Chinese
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Speaker 2: company is linked to the station, you know, you couldn't exactly,
21:58
Speaker 2: you wouldn't be buying anything on it will not be
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Speaker 2: supporting the Chinese government somehow. And what are they things
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Speaker 2: is going to happen. They're going to spy on tourists going.
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Speaker 13: Up plants and the listening devices on the Ferry. Listen
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Speaker 13: to Wellingtonian's complain as you wear that cloudy Period's Gusty
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Speaker 13: Northerly's nineteen.
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Speaker 2: All right, thank you and Wendy is in the hot
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Speaker 2: seat today. Wendy, good morning, good to see you. What's
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Speaker 2: going on with Audio? Were hosting a big earthquake?
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Speaker 14: Wow, I know it's that day. What is October sixteen
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Speaker 14: the country's national earthquake and tsunami evacuation drill, known as
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Speaker 14: the Shakeout. It'll see seven hundred and thirty thousand of
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Speaker 14: US drop cover and hold this morning. It's the highest
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Speaker 14: number of sign ups in six years. People across the
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Speaker 14: country will carry out the drill at nine thirty this
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Speaker 14: morning with a live event happening in Auckland's audero at
22:46
Speaker 14: the Beach. Audio Beach Primary School is hosting the event.
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Speaker 14: The National Emergency Management Agency's John Price says earthquake risk
22:53
Speaker 14: is clearly at the front of New Zealander's mines and
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Speaker 14: if you're not an audero, it'll be a self run event.
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Speaker 14: No no, no buzz on your phone, but you will
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Speaker 14: know to run that event yourself. At nine thirty, schools,
23:04
Speaker 14: I guess and businesses may take part.
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Speaker 2: Did you know about this before you came in. I
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Speaker 2: just say I did not know no idea. All right,
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Speaker 2: So nine thirty we're jumping under the desk, Wendy.
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Speaker 14: That's exactly right we're doing at nine thirty. How's that weather, Well,
23:18
Speaker 14: we're looking at a fine day, a few cutor clouds
23:20
Speaker 14: around in, a few showers late morning day. We'll clear
23:23
Speaker 14: by the evening though. We've got a westerly wind and
23:25
Speaker 14: a high today, have nineteen degrees.
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Speaker 2: Brilliant, Thank you. I got an update on the French
23:29
Speaker 2: for you. The hot mess that is France and it's
23:31
Speaker 2: political and economic situation at the moment. By the way,
23:34
Speaker 2: we will also get to the US and we will
23:36
Speaker 2: talk about state housing. Should we own all the state
23:40
Speaker 2: houses we currently do or sell them all off? News
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Speaker 2: Talks VB. According to six News Talks, eb Let's return
23:46
Speaker 2: to France because such a hot mess. It's fascinating to watch.
23:49
Speaker 2: She had the prime minister out, then the prime minister
23:51
Speaker 2: back in. Now the pension reforms are on ice anyway.
23:55
Speaker 2: The new bit is the socialist They've come out overnight
23:57
Speaker 2: saying they want a wealth tax. I mean they've been
23:59
Speaker 2: saying that for a while, but now they think they
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Speaker 2: can actually get somewhere with it. A wealth tax of
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Speaker 2: two percent on the super rich. Basically, they've got to
24:06
Speaker 2: get money from somewhere. They're in a really, really bad way.
24:08
Speaker 2: How bad is the debt I had a look yesterday,
24:11
Speaker 2: so it's the highest Eurozone well third highest in the
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Speaker 2: Eurozone behind Greece and Italy, one hundred and fourteen percent
24:17
Speaker 2: of the economy. Add to the fact that you basically
24:21
Speaker 2: can't pass a budget there to bring that down, and
24:23
Speaker 2: the market say okay, well you're more of a risk
24:25
Speaker 2: to lend to. Then they demand higher interest rates on
24:28
Speaker 2: the debt the bonds, so a German bond will carry
24:31
Speaker 2: interest rate about two point seven percent. The French government
24:33
Speaker 2: needs to pay three and a half interest for its debt.
24:37
Speaker 2: So the debt that you have in the debt that
24:39
Speaker 2: they keep on borrowing gets more expensive to service, the
24:43
Speaker 2: more risk the more you pay, the more you pay,
24:46
Speaker 2: the more risky you are. It's kind of a spiral.
24:49
Speaker 2: So the moral of the story is basically, don't be
24:51
Speaker 2: like the French.
24:52
Speaker 1: International correspondence with ends and eye insurance.
24:56
Speaker 2: Peace of mind for New Zealand business shut down continues.
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Speaker 2: We're in the US education Ministry staff apparently can't log
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Speaker 2: into the working emails even and let's get a Ni Kappa,
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Speaker 2: a US correspondent, Nick, what's the latest.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, Ryan, it's a mess. It's day fifteen now, so
25:10
Speaker 12: we're into the third week. Still no end in sight.
25:13
Speaker 12: I mean in terms of the votes. The Zenate is
25:15
Speaker 12: voting again today, but for the Senate, they're hoping this
25:18
Speaker 12: is going to be the ninth time. Lucky, because the
25:21
Speaker 12: Republicans are putting forward the exact same bill that has
25:23
Speaker 12: already been rejected eight times by the Democrats. Now they
25:27
Speaker 12: want healthcare subsidies extended for millions of Americans. The Republicans
25:30
Speaker 12: are saying no, and there's basically no middle ground to
25:34
Speaker 12: try and force their hand. The Trump administration has now
25:37
Speaker 12: frozen about thirty billion dollars worth of projects that are
25:41
Speaker 12: in Democrat run areas of the country, and of course,
25:43
Speaker 12: day by day the impact is getting worse. We've already
25:46
Speaker 12: seen tons of flights across the country delayed, some canceled.
25:50
Speaker 12: But then there's the issue of pay. Federal employees simply
25:53
Speaker 12: aren't getting paid. As you mentioned, education staff can't log
25:56
Speaker 12: into accounts. We've even seen thousands of people getting laid off,
25:59
Speaker 12: and there are now warnings that this could be the
26:02
Speaker 12: longest shut down in US history. The longest was thirty
26:05
Speaker 12: five days during Donald Trump's first term. So we've got
26:08
Speaker 12: twenty days to run until we get there. But the
26:10
Speaker 12: thinking is there may be no common ground and therefore
26:13
Speaker 12: we'll get to the thirty five day mark pretty quickly.
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Speaker 2: Not a record you want to be sitting neck. What
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Speaker 2: about Trump and his bailout of the Argentinians openly now
26:21
Speaker 2: saying he's just trying to help a brother out basically.
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Speaker 12: I mean, it's quite incredible. There is strings attached to
26:27
Speaker 12: this money. It's a twenty billion dollar currency swapp. It's
26:30
Speaker 12: trying to stabilize Argentinan's financial markets that are in turmoil.
26:35
Speaker 12: This is one world leader that Donald Trump really does like.
26:38
Speaker 12: He was invited to Trump's inauguration in January, just one
26:41
Speaker 12: of two world leaders. So Donald Trump happy to give
26:44
Speaker 12: him the money, but saying that there are these strings attached,
26:47
Speaker 12: basically that Malay's party has to win the upcoming midterm elections.
26:52
Speaker 12: The US approval, Trump said are somewhat subject to who
26:56
Speaker 12: wins the election. He said the US would not waste
26:59
Speaker 12: our time helping Argentina if Malay loses. And remember, of course,
27:03
Speaker 12: this is the US president who's previously lashed out against
27:07
Speaker 12: foreign interference in US elections. The Democrats, unsurprisingly, they're not happy.
27:13
Speaker 12: They're criticizing Donald Trump, accusing him of ignoring the shutdown
27:17
Speaker 12: domestic problems here. But also there's criticism because this is
27:21
Speaker 12: benefiting some of Donald Trump's closest allies, The Treasury Secretary
27:24
Speaker 12: Scot Percent, a whole load of his friends are going
27:27
Speaker 12: to benefit as a result of this bailout deal.
27:30
Speaker 2: Nick Harper, our US correspondent, it is eleve minutes away
27:32
Speaker 2: from six Ryan Bridge, Can you report Rickens' textpayers are
27:36
Speaker 2: getting a raw deal on state housing. The New Zealand
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Speaker 2: Initiative sees kying or order seventy seven thousand homes. Yes,
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Speaker 2: we own seventy seven thousand homes cost us twice as
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Speaker 2: much as the privates sick there and they're asking why
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Speaker 2: do we bother owning them. Dr Bryce Wilkinson's the report author,
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Speaker 2: joins us this morning, Bryce, good morning, is good morning.
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Speaker 2: What exactly is costing us twice as much?
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Speaker 15: It's operating the seventy ship and powers and houses, so
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Speaker 15: that's repairs and maintenance and staff support and sort of
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Speaker 15: turning over tenants, give the new tenants, organizing new houses,
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Speaker 15: that sort of stuff.
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Speaker 2: How have you come to that number? How have you
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Speaker 2: compared it to a private number? I went on.
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Speaker 15: I found that there is a real estate room called
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Speaker 15: Lodge real Estate which does a lot of helping landlords
28:29
Speaker 15: and buying and selling houses and has had indicative benchmarking
28:34
Speaker 15: costructures for private landlords for reading our properties.
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Speaker 2: And so that's what I've used to.
28:42
Speaker 15: Get the numbers for AURA. I've used the numbers in
28:46
Speaker 15: their annual the last published annual report, which is the
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Speaker 15: one for twenty twenty three to twenty four. And what
28:53
Speaker 15: I say in the report is that it would be
28:56
Speaker 15: good if Caning and AURA itself commission to hire independent
29:01
Speaker 15: experts to do its own authoritatia more authoritative beachmark comparisons
29:08
Speaker 15: because it's got more of desegregated data than it publishes
29:12
Speaker 15: and the end report books.
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Speaker 2: So you're saying a better job than I. You're saying well,
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Speaker 2: and you're saying that the privacyctor does a better job
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Speaker 2: than the government does in terms of the cost.
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Speaker 5: What do you want to do?
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Speaker 2: Then sell them to community to third parties.
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Speaker 15: Yes, there's an extent of survey of high oversease countries
29:31
Speaker 15: do it, and there's an enormous diversity. So there's housing associations.
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Speaker 15: They're very prevalent in some of the European countries. We've
29:41
Speaker 15: got we're getting that way a bit ourselves of community
29:44
Speaker 15: housing providers. We could do a lot more of that.
29:48
Speaker 15: The UK transferred ownership to a lot of the tenants
29:52
Speaker 15: who are occupying them, over one million homes there, so
29:56
Speaker 15: that's another option. But the important thing is to empower
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Speaker 15: the tenants and if they if they get captured and
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Speaker 15: caused in the state House, the neighbors might be really
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Speaker 15: unsavory with peers might not be doing being done and
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Speaker 15: that sort of trapped there. If they can just move,
30:15
Speaker 15: take the money and move, find another land all over,
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Speaker 15: a housing association or CHP, then they've got more options,
30:24
Speaker 15: more in control of their own large all right.
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Speaker 2: Bryce appreciated that. Doctor Bryce Wilkinson, who's the report author
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Speaker 2: from the New Zealand Initiative. It's eight minutes away from six.
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Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge on early edition with r VS Supercenter explore
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Speaker 1: r VS accessories and servicing all in one news talks.
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Speaker 2: The'd be it's six minutes away from six. Hey, the
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Speaker 2: Chinese have got the Chinese banks have got some of
30:45
Speaker 2: the cheapest rates out there for mortgages at the moment.
30:47
Speaker 2: I see BC's launched a four point twenty five percent
30:50
Speaker 2: one year fixed mortgage rate. If you're like me and
30:52
Speaker 2: you're kind of in the market and looking around, then
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Speaker 2: these cheap Chinese ones attempting Bank of China's next. It's
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Speaker 2: twenty basis points lower, many points lower than the Ossie
31:02
Speaker 2: banks that are offering it. And then you go, well,
31:04
Speaker 2: can you trust borrowing from one? Apparently you can, but
31:07
Speaker 2: apparently it's very much an Auckland thing. They don't really
31:10
Speaker 2: offer it to the rest of the country. And news
31:12
Speaker 2: talks he'd be it is five to two now for
31:15
Speaker 2: it much from the studio morning, Mike Morning. So you
31:18
Speaker 2: would have obviously interviewed in Bulgium many times.
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Speaker 16: Over the years, many many, many many times.
31:23
Speaker 2: He's ninety years old this year and passed away overnight.
31:27
Speaker 2: For those just joining us.
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Speaker 16: Sad, sad, but not tragic, because nineties ninety Zeman him
31:33
Speaker 16: this morning. He it was a funny old thing he was,
31:36
Speaker 16: I suppose when we always go how big was he?
31:39
Speaker 16: How good, you know, what's the legacy. And he won
31:42
Speaker 16: three terms, so not many do. So there's that ended
31:46
Speaker 16: in tears. Yeah, I don't know if you remember it,
31:48
Speaker 16: but he was.
31:49
Speaker 2: It was where it all began.
31:51
Speaker 16: It was it started that theory you never leave the
31:53
Speaker 16: country in troubled times. Because he had left the country
31:56
Speaker 16: to go to Chogham and at that point Shipley was
31:59
Speaker 16: rounding up the numbers and by the time he got
32:01
Speaker 16: back he knew it was all. It was Nimes at Christmas, Yeah,
32:03
Speaker 16: it was and so and of course part of the
32:05
Speaker 16: problem was he was an advocate for MMP and as
32:08
Speaker 16: a result of MMP Winston, who of course once upon
32:10
Speaker 16: a time was a member of the National Party until
32:12
Speaker 16: it all when you know, it became problematic. So it
32:15
Speaker 16: was one of those coalition things that never quite went
32:18
Speaker 16: to and interesting, as history repeats itself, one of the
32:21
Speaker 16: things that drove Shipley was there was a sense of
32:24
Speaker 16: a lack of direction and a lack of action, irony
32:28
Speaker 16: of ironies, and so she was sick of it, so
32:32
Speaker 16: they went for it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting to hear him talk about Winston, that is,
32:35
Speaker 2: he's reflecting on his relationship with him over the years.
32:38
Speaker 2: You know, saying it was it.
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Speaker 16: It's funny how you remember things in hindsight.
32:43
Speaker 2: I've been remembering. I must have been about seven or eight,
32:46
Speaker 2: and my first memory of sort of anything political was
32:49
Speaker 2: going to Wellington team New Zealand had won the America's
32:52
Speaker 2: Cup and there was a big parade and I can
32:55
Speaker 2: just remember all the ticket tape and he was there,
32:58
Speaker 2: Jim Boljer and shook my hand and I'm inmber coming.
33:01
Speaker 2: Oh wow, wow, just being absolutely amazed that the what acent.
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Speaker 16: Did he use? Because the famous thing about Old was
33:07
Speaker 16: every time he went overseas he was in about twenty
33:10
Speaker 16: four hours developed the accents of the country he was in.
33:13
Speaker 16: It was the funniest thing. But anyway, ironically on complete
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Speaker 16: the other Man, we happened to have Bill English on
33:20
Speaker 16: the program.
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Speaker 2: He doesn't speak publicly very often these days. No, he doesn't.
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Speaker 16: Ah, So he had a good type working relationship with him.
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Speaker 16: So well, we'll spend some time with him later.
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Speaker 2: Brilliant. All right, Mike's with you next. I'll be back
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Speaker 2: with you tomorrow for a Friday morning. Have a great day,
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Speaker 2: all you.
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