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312: Janelle Brown Has Fallen From Grace - Raccoons Sound Off · Reality TV Cringe

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  Speaker 2: First one is from Tim a boy yeah, a man, yes,
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  Speaker 2: a ole man.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: I know AB and D. It's Tim from the show
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  Speaker 3: Me Dumbster in Missouri. I'm calling you back because I
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  Speaker 3: was talking to my wife last night we were going
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  Speaker 3: over the most recent Sister Wives at the tell All,
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  Speaker 3: and I noted, you know, Cody was so very deliberate
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  Speaker 3: and how he spoke up specifically about the money that
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  Speaker 3: Mary paid into the original mansion and how he got
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  Speaker 3: fifty percent of what was in the Vegas house because
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  Speaker 3: of their quote unquote divorce decree. I would love if
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  Speaker 3: Mary would say, you know what, you've convinced me, Cody,
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  Speaker 3: not to go for the moral argument not but to
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  Speaker 3: just strictly go by the letter of the law. And
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  Speaker 3: since our divorce decree said we each get fifty percent
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  Speaker 3: of our shared marital assets. When we were married in Vegas,
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  Speaker 3: you had four houses, so I want my half from
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  Speaker 3: all four of those houses according to our divorce decree.
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  Speaker 3: And I will let go of the gift I gave
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  Speaker 3: you too, for you know, Robin's house. I just it's
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  Speaker 3: it would be an interesting worthy up to me if
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  Speaker 3: she were to do that, So talk to you guys later.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks, What do you think of that?
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  Speaker 2: I would love that so much, like if Mary was like, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: well we were married for X amount of years, so
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  Speaker 2: give me fifty your shit now, bitch. Because Cody did
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  Speaker 2: bring that up in the tell all, which I just
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  Speaker 2: thought was so dirty of him, because it's like, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: if you're using that to justify Mary's gift to you
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  Speaker 2: for Robin's house, she should have only given you half
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  Speaker 2: of it, then she shouldn't have given you the full amount,
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  Speaker 2: which is what she did.
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  Speaker 1: Good point.
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  Speaker 2: So she should sue for that, and I wish she would,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't know if she will.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think this hinges upon knowing exactly what was
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  Speaker 1: in the divorce decree, because it can say whatever the
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  Speaker 1: two people want it to say.
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  Speaker 4: M hm.
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  Speaker 1: So I wonder if there's some sort of stipulation in
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  Speaker 1: the decree that would afford Mary that kind of access
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  Speaker 1: to his many houses and assets through these three other wives.
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  Speaker 1: I would doubt it. Yeah, I doubt Cody would let
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  Speaker 1: her build something like that into their divorce agreement. But
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  Speaker 1: it would be so fantastic if there was some kind
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  Speaker 1: of language vague or otherwise that would allow for her
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  Speaker 1: to come back now yeah and try to litigate it.
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  Speaker 1: And maybe there is, and maybe she's just threatening it
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  Speaker 1: at this time by saying something like, well, okay, well
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  Speaker 1: you don't want to give me back my money, But
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  Speaker 1: like I could really be asking for so much more
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  Speaker 1: when you think about it, right, and also, were you
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  Speaker 1: hiding assets by taking money out of the LLC. I'd
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  Speaker 1: like to see an accounting of all of that. So
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe she's doing something like that right
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  Speaker 1: now behind the scenes, because in our recap episode we
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  Speaker 1: were actually speculating as to whether she's currently still pursuing
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  Speaker 1: him somehow legally. And I don't think there's litigation. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think there's like a suit that's been filed, but
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  Speaker 1: maybe he's still under thread of that, which I love
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  Speaker 1: for him, probably, and maybe Mary is the person in
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  Speaker 1: the best position to actually get something out of him
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  Speaker 1: because Christine gave it up for whatever reason, and Janelle
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  Speaker 1: has walked away. Yep, she's quietly quit and we're never
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  Speaker 1: going to see her again pursuing it well.
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  Speaker 2: And Mary was the only other one that was legally
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  Speaker 2: married to Cody, so I think she does have she
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  Speaker 2: might have some legal ability to come after him, And
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  Speaker 2: it kind of sounded like it in these Tilna things,
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  Speaker 2: like Cody was talking about how they were negotiating other
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  Speaker 2: things like other assets, other financial decisions that they had
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  Speaker 2: all made collectively, when they were also negotiating Coyote Pass
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  Speaker 2: and that was why things got muddy, and that's why
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  Speaker 2: Robin had the NDA, and she pulled that out the
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  Speaker 2: last minute. And so I'm kind of wondering if Mary
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  Speaker 2: was threatening some shit. I feel like if there was
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  Speaker 2: a suit that was filed, somebody somewhere would have leaked
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  Speaker 2: that shit.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, of course, yes.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't know. I don't know if Mary is
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  Speaker 2: petty enough to go after that shit. I wish she was,
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  Speaker 2: because I would be.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like there's something in her that is averse
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  Speaker 1: to being seen as a bitch, yeah, or being seen
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  Speaker 1: as petty. I also if there's something like statute of
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  Speaker 1: limitations that she might be up against. And so maybe
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  Speaker 1: the time has passed and she no longer will have
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  Speaker 1: the opportunity to do that. But it would be great
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  Speaker 1: if she could, and it would be even better if
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  Speaker 1: she did.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, it would be so great. Let us know what
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  Speaker 2: you guys think. If Mary should sue Cody for all
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  Speaker 2: of this shit, I think.
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  Speaker 1: She should take it off. Take what you can.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, So thank you for your call. Tim. We never
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  Speaker 2: really have men that call. It has called us before, yep,
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  Speaker 2: and Cleatus I forgot we also had him was that
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  Speaker 2: my husband, yes, is the only men that have called
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  Speaker 2: all right. Next one we have is from m.
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  Speaker 5: Hi Raccoon m here from Michigan and watching the second
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  Speaker 5: part of the tella, what stuck out to me so much.
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  Speaker 5: The entire conversation about this backdoor deal is only being
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  Speaker 5: talked about because Robin is using it to deflect from
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  Speaker 5: the fact that she put an NDA in there. If
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  Speaker 5: you don't have that conversation, the wholetell all is just
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  Speaker 5: about her and the confidentiality agreement and how ridiculous that is,
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  Speaker 5: and her silencing the other wives and trying to take control,
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  Speaker 5: and instead it becomes about that and this other conversation
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  Speaker 5: which isn't even a real thing. Janelle made a stupid comment.
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  Speaker 5: Cody made a stupid comment. It wasn't kind, It wasn't
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  Speaker 5: respectful of Mary. Okay, I don't expect him to be.
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  Speaker 5: He doesn't respect her. She and Janelle don't get along.
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  Speaker 5: They made a stupid comment. It didn't go anywhere. He
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  Speaker 5: readily admits, as does Janelle, that they were ever going
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  Speaker 5: to actually sell the property out from under her, like
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  Speaker 5: it was just something they talked about. Was it nice?
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  Speaker 4: No?
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  Speaker 5: Was it ever meant for Mary? To hear know, they're
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  Speaker 5: making a huge deal out of it because it makes
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  Speaker 5: Janelle look bad. I even just watched And Suki asks Robin,
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  Speaker 5: why does Janelle think that the NDA was a power play?
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  Speaker 5: And Robin says, oh, because she's trying to get out
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  Speaker 5: of the fact that she was betraying Mary. That's what
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  Speaker 5: she says. She's just using the entire you know, betrayal
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  Speaker 5: narrative to deflect from the fact that it cut off.
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  Speaker 2: But I agree me too.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know that I can say much more.
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  Speaker 1: I definitely think that M's version of what probably went
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  Speaker 1: down between Janelle and Cody, like just like Key King
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  Speaker 1: having a conversation. Well, we could just do what we want.
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  Speaker 1: What could Mary actually do? Like legally, she's only entitled
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  Speaker 1: to one third of one plot, Like, we could do
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  Speaker 1: it if we wanted to. That's all it was. They
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  Speaker 1: were never going to do that. I do hope that
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  Speaker 1: Janelle has more integrity than to do that to Mary
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  Speaker 1: or another person. Yeah, but it was absolutely a tool
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  Speaker 1: that allowed Robin to pivot away from the NDA, which
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  Speaker 1: she blatantly lied about terms of the timing and the
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  Speaker 1: reason behind it. But now she gets to defle and
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  Speaker 1: put the focus back on Janelle and this thing that
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  Speaker 1: she allegedly did, which I mean, I think she was
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  Speaker 1: probably unkind, but I don't think her intention was to
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  Speaker 1: screw Mary over.
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  Speaker 2: No, and I don't think it was a legit backdoor
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  Speaker 2: deal that ever came to fruition. I think they just
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  Speaker 2: mentioned it, they talked about it, but it didn't happen.
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  Speaker 2: So why are we even bringing it up, like as
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  Speaker 2: a conversation. It's literally just to hurt Mary, to make
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  Speaker 2: Janelle look bad and to take the heat off of Robin.
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  Speaker 2: And like the closest that we got to Robin even
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  Speaker 2: admitting to anything was her bringing up the NDA and
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  Speaker 2: saying that she just didn't want people to fight about
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  Speaker 2: finances publicly. But did we pressure her into asking like
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  Speaker 2: why did you add that clause in there about your
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  Speaker 2: flagstaff home? Why did you add all of this shit?
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  Speaker 2: And why was it at the last minute? Like, No,
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  Speaker 2: we're not going to press her on anything hard because
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  Speaker 2: it's Robin Brown. Yep, She's the sacred cow and we
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  Speaker 2: can't ever call her out on her bullshit. So I agree,
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  Speaker 2: Am I think?
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  Speaker 1: Am you have it exactly right? Yes?
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  Speaker 2: Next call we have is an anonymous raccoon. No, it's hate. No,
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  Speaker 2: I'm just kidding.
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  Speaker 4: No, Hello raccoons, it's Rachel from the Montana Dumpster. I've
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  Speaker 4: been watching a few different YouTube creators when they're discussing
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  Speaker 4: the back door dil that Cody is insisting that him
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  Speaker 4: and Janelle had or we're working on. Everyone's talking about
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  Speaker 4: the fact that Janelle needed the money so badly, and
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  Speaker 4: so she was the one that just wanted it to
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  Speaker 4: go through, and she was pushing people to fix it
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  Speaker 4: and to finish it so that it was handled so
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  Speaker 4: she could have her money. As far as I know,
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  Speaker 4: Janell that isn't in need of a bunch of money
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  Speaker 4: right now. She has stuff going on at Tata Farms.
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  Speaker 4: She has been building. They purchased the land and the
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  Speaker 4: property already. Maddie and Caleb and her have been moving
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  Speaker 4: forward with things. I think they had permitting delays, but
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  Speaker 4: I've not heard about it being a money delay. Cody
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  Speaker 4: and Robin needed the money. And Robin's comment about how
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  Speaker 4: Mary was in a very precarious situation. I'm sure that
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  Speaker 4: Mary heard that a time or two from old Robin
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  Speaker 4: and her stupid lips. Anyway, I'm curious to hear what
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  Speaker 4: you girls think. I don't think that Janelle was the
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  Speaker 4: one who needed the money so badly. It was Cody
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  Speaker 4: and Robin they needed the money. What do you girls think?
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  Speaker 2: Let me know, thanks by.
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  Speaker 1: I disagree. I think Janelle needed the money. I think
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  Speaker 1: Janelle actually said something about needing the money. I don't
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  Speaker 1: remember where in the ether or the zeitgeist that I
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  Speaker 1: heard that. But just because they bought the land doesn't
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  Speaker 1: mean there aren't holding costs associated with that land. They're
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  Speaker 1: probably paying a monthly not And then she had to
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  Speaker 1: build a house, and I think I think that the
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  Speaker 1: money she got out of Coyote Pass probably went right
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  Speaker 1: into the building of her home. Like, without that money,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think she would have built that home. So
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  Speaker 1: I do think that there was a sense of urgency
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  Speaker 1: for her because she's living with Maddie and Caleb in
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  Speaker 1: their house, which is cool or whatever, but like she
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  Speaker 1: wanted her own place and she wanted to start her
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  Speaker 1: own life. But having said that, I also think Cody
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  Speaker 1: and Robin needed the money too. Yeah, And I think
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  Speaker 1: that this is all happening around the within like a
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  Speaker 1: six month frame where they're selling the McMansion number one,
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  Speaker 1: they are acquiring mcmanson number two. They're putting this money
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  Speaker 1: down on that house. I think they used the money
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  Speaker 1: that they actually made from Coyote Pass to pay pay
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  Speaker 1: down the mortgage of mcmanson number two, to then turn
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  Speaker 1: around and borrow against what they've already paid off in
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  Speaker 1: some kind of a scheme, because we know they took
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  Speaker 1: out that huge loan at the end of twenty twenty five,
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  Speaker 1: and they're spending the money. They're spending that equity that
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  Speaker 1: they put in. So like, I do think they need
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  Speaker 1: the money, but I also think Janelle needed and or
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  Speaker 1: really wanted the money so that she could start in
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  Speaker 1: her life.
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  Speaker 2: I kind of I'm up to minds. I think that
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  Speaker 2: Janelle probably just wanted the money, and I think that
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  Speaker 2: the deal was going to fall through, and she was
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  Speaker 2: watching it as it was about to fall through, and
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  Speaker 2: Cody and Robin were dragging their fucking feet, and Mary
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  Speaker 2: was dragging her feet, and she was over it. I
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  Speaker 2: think she wanted it to be done. I think she
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  Speaker 2: wanted to not have her financial, like any ties to
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  Speaker 2: these people anymore, like especially financially, and she wanted it
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  Speaker 2: to be over. I think Cody and Robin had a
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  Speaker 2: more of a sense of urgency to get the money
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  Speaker 2: because they wanted to get the McMansion and probably because
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  Speaker 2: they're literally living their lives debt financed for everything, and
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  Speaker 2: so I think for them, they probably had more of
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  Speaker 2: an urgency to get the money, to get everything sold
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  Speaker 2: and to be done because they're broke as fuck. Whereas
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  Speaker 2: like with Janelle, she's kind of tied to like Maddie
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  Speaker 2: and Caleb, it seems like they're pretty financi set, Like
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to say they're like rich, but they're
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  Speaker 2: in a stable position and they took Janelle in, so
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  Speaker 2: she was like fine with them. I think that's kind
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  Speaker 2: of my opinion on it, Like I don't think she
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  Speaker 2: was like gonna be homeless on the street.
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  Speaker 1: And needed the money. Definitely not. But as Cody and
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  Speaker 1: I do think your point about her also like wanting
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  Speaker 1: the energetic ties cut, like I don't want to have
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  Speaker 1: this hanging over my head waiting around for years, because
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  Speaker 1: it sounds like based on the third tell all that
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  Speaker 1: Cody was like, if we just sit on this property,
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  Speaker 1: like in ten years, it's going to double in price
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  Speaker 1: or triple in price or whatever. So he was thinking
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  Speaker 1: of it more in terms of an investment, whereas Janelle's
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  Speaker 1: just like, Yeah, I don't want to hang out for
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  Speaker 1: a decade tied to you financially and otherwise, and so yeah,
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  Speaker 1: let's just get this done.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that's more where the motivation is for
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  Speaker 2: Janelle in my opinion. And I also think Cody's talking
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  Speaker 2: out his ass when he says that, because I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: how is a laprodic like piece of land going to
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  Speaker 2: double mprice?
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  Speaker 5: In?
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  Speaker 4: Well?
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  Speaker 1: But what did they buy it for? I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: eight hundred something thousand, I forget, God, my numbers are
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  Speaker 1: not right about this. But then they sold it for
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  Speaker 1: one point four or something like that, so they made
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  Speaker 1: a tidy little profit on it. That's so much I
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  Speaker 1: do as well. But he had to split it with
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  Speaker 1: everybody he did.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so let us know what you guys think. Who
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  Speaker 2: needed the money more, Janelle or Cody and Robin. Next
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  Speaker 2: caller we have is Megan.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, Hi, B and D. This is Megan calling from
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  Speaker 6: the very cold dumpster of Chicago. And I saw this
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  Speaker 6: theory online. I did not come up with it myself,
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  Speaker 6: but I did see it online, and I'm just wondering
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  Speaker 6: your thoughts. Some people online are speculating that Cody left
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  Speaker 6: Vegas and went to flag Staff not because of Dayton,
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  Speaker 6: like he claims, but because he knew that Christine was
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  Speaker 6: probably gonna leave him, and he knew that if something
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  Speaker 6: happened like that, that he didn't have any claim to
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  Speaker 6: any of her money, and if Janelle left, he wouldn't
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  Speaker 6: have any claim to any of her money, and so
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  Speaker 6: he wanted to make this big move to buy the
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  Speaker 6: big McMansion while they were still quote unquote together, so
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  Speaker 6: that he could have money from their house because the
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  Speaker 6: only one that he legally married was married to was Mary,
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  Speaker 6: and that was the only one who legally he could
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  Speaker 6: have access to their money. So, anyways, what are your
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  Speaker 6: guys' thoughts? Love the pod, love the Patreon buy.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's an interesting theory. I think they moved
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  Speaker 2: to Flagstaff though for Dayton, because they did say it,
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  Speaker 2: and Dayton did go to NAU. I think or got
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  Speaker 2: accepted to ANAU, and so that move made sense, especially
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  Speaker 2: for Robin, who is tied to her kids like a
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: fucking barnacle. But it is an interesting theory that Cody
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: maybe saw the writing on the wall and knew that
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: Christine was going to lead him, and so he got
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: money from her still and tried to get money from
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: everybody else to make sure that he could secure his
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: bag and secure his home with his sweet honey Robin.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: I think that's interesting.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree, though I think it was primarily
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: because of Dayton, which just makes it all the more
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: juicy that it appears he's no longer talking to Robin
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: or no longer involved with their family, and that potentially
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: he's back in contact with or even like living around
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: and or with his father, David Jessup. So yeah, I
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: think it was Robin. And we just read Christine's book.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: We review the entire thing over four episodes on our Patreon.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: But in the book as well, Christine talks about like
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: buying into the idea of the move to flag Staff
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: and really like receiving how Cody was trying to sell
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: it to her and the rest of the family, and
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: like believing in it and then being absolutely shocked when
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: she realized, oh, we're really moving because Dayton's going to
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: nau and like so she talks about it herself. That's
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: what she thinks the reason is for the move, And
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: I think that that's probably accurate now. Of course, I
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: think Robin is trying to play chess the entire time,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: although she's only playing checkers. And I think she's thinking
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: about the entire time how she can get her hands,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: her grubby, little demonic hands on everybody's money. And I
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: think Cody is probably colluding with her to some degree,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: and so that might have been a minor aspect to it,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: but I do think the major motivation was Robin wanting
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: to be with her. Yeah, and she then kicks out
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: of her house because of COVID, he's got to live
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: in an RV. And then he dumps them.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Right as he should. Because if I was Robin's kids,
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: I would have been no contact a long time.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: There'd be a tell all book, fact, I would have
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: my own Patreon. I would be an absolute goblin online totally.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: I'm surprised. Out of all of these children, I know, sidebar,
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: but like, out of all of these kids, there's one
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: million of them, not a single one is like writing
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: a book or spilling some secrets and shit like yet,
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe they're all under NDAs too, I
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: don't think so.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: I remember, I want to say Peyden and or Gwen
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: talking about Cody trying to get TLC to put them
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: under the constraints of an NDA, but that not going through.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Then spill some fucking I think.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: I think Payden has talked about I think in the
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: interview that he did with that one guy I forget
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: his name, I think he said like, when the show
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: is over, I will talk about it.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well I'm fucking waiting.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: But for some reason, he has some misguided sense of
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: respect and honor for his parents. He completely exploited him
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: and all his sablings, so he wants to allow them
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: to have their show, and then he's going to say
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: something boo. I'll believe it when I see it, Beatrich facts.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: So anyway, let us know what you guys think if
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Cody maybe saw the writing on the wall with Christine
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: leaving him, and maybe he tried to take advantage of
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: her one last time moving to Flagstaff, or if it
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: was all for dating and Robin. Let us know the
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: comments below, all right, Next one, we have us from Victoria, ladies.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: This is Victoria for New Jersey. Happy to talk to
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: you guys.
• 21:25
  Speaker 7: Honestly, I have not.
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: Been watching this season.
• 21:27
  Speaker 7: I've been watching your recaps as well. As other content creators.
• 21:31
  Speaker 7: And I was watching Sunday's recap of another person's video,
• 21:33
  Speaker 7: and I was getting really angry with Janelle when she
• 21:37
  Speaker 7: was talking about how she came into the family, because
• 21:39
  Speaker 7: it brought me back to one of the seasons, the
• 21:41
  Speaker 7: early seasons, when they went to Wyoming and Cody's childhood
• 21:45
  Speaker 7: friend said that he did not want to be associated
• 21:47
  Speaker 7: with them because he felt that they would use their
• 21:50
  Speaker 7: knowledge of LDS and AUB to sway him away from
• 21:54
  Speaker 7: the LDS religion. And Janelle says in her intertitional, oh,
• 21:59
  Speaker 7: are you that, like Wishby was she in your religion?
• 22:02
  Speaker 7: That you can easily be swayed away? And it made
• 22:05
  Speaker 7: me get angry because I'm like, yeah, honey, because that's
• 22:08
  Speaker 7: what happened to you.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: She was raised LDS.
• 22:13
  Speaker 7: She goes and meets Mary's brother, who may he Rest
• 22:16
  Speaker 7: in peace, who was also LDS.
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: He left the AUB, he left Polygnany.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: You wanted nothing to do with it.
• 22:21
  Speaker 7: And then a year and a half later, being around
• 22:23
  Speaker 7: his family aka his mother, he is she's going she's
• 22:28
  Speaker 7: divorced with the UB and married to Coke, getting married
• 22:32
  Speaker 7: to Cody, and the same thing with her mother. So
• 22:35
  Speaker 7: I was just sitting him, going, you are so ridiculous,
• 22:38
  Speaker 7: You're such a hypocrite, and come on, red flags major
• 22:41
  Speaker 7: that you were checking out your brother in law, well married,
• 22:44
  Speaker 7: and I'm wondering why Mary was so.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: Angry at you, and then it cuts off and then
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: I think she had like a second voice message. I
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: don't know if we can get to it though, where
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: she talked about how Suki sucks ass.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, agreed, agreed. So what was she saying
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: about Mary's brother, may he rest in peace leaving the AUB?
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Is that what she was saying? Yeah, Mary's Because I
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: don't know any of this lore, so I don't even
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: that happened.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: It sounds like she said that Mary's brother left the AUB.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: He was LDS, and so when Janelle was married to him,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: they were LDS. And then Janelle's mom started banging Cody's
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: dad right, and then to convert it to the faith,
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: even though she was trying to steer Janelle away from it.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: I say, like, no, it's dangerous. But then she got.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Hard, got dickmatized.
• 23:33
  Speaker 7: Friends.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and so she joins the AUB, becomes a plural
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: wife yep.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: And then Janelle leaves Mary's brother and then has the
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: hots for Cody and then converts so that way she
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: can bang Cody.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Interesting. Yeah, that whole thing smacks of a lack of
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: integrity for sure. And you have to wonder to yourself
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: the timeline of events, because if she's commenting about wanting
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: her children to have the bill of her brother in
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: law Cody Brown, like before anything ever happened between them,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: then she was thinking about it totally. She was lusting
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: after him and maybe he was pursuing her. And we
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: talked about this last week. But in terms of her
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: calling out that guy, was his name ken I forget
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: his name? Yeah, I think it was Kem the earlier
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: seasons for being like worried about losing his faith. That's
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: a great point and it does showcase Janelle's hypocrisy because
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: that's the exact situation she found herself in. Oh she
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: was swayed away from LDS in order to be fundamentalist.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Yep, just so she could bang Cody. I mean, I
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: feel like that's.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: You think that's what it is?
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, same the reason why her mom because.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: She seems pretty convicted, like when she's articulating her faith
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: and wise to be well why she's done the things
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: like wanting a spiritual release, like she is honoring her faith,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: so like you would hope that she converted because she
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: was actually convicted and had the lightning bolt in her pus.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: She had a lightning bolt in her she had the
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: burning blows them and she's like, I gotta be aub
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: but like, yeah, I don't know, maybe it was Cody.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: I think it was all Cody. And she is hypocritical
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: and like this was clear. This made clear to me
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: in these tell alls because of everything that she's just
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: been spouting in these things, Like she even says at
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: one point something like you know, I pursued Cody and Mary,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: like they didn't pursue me, But then she goes back
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: on that and says that they pursued her, and so
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: she's talking out of both sides of her mouth, and
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: like if the tenet of their faith is like you know,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: the women have to pursue each other. But then she
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: was the one that was pursuing Cody and I guess
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Mary because she was married to him. Like it's so hypocritical,
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: And then you have her call and shit calling out
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Jen for no reason, and she signed an NDA just
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: so she could get her bag from Coyote Pass and
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: then the whole back door deal. I'm just like, Ganna,
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: you shady, Yeah, you a shady hope.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Well, she's self interested. She's looking out for herself, selfish.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: I don't even know if that extends to her kids. Honestly,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: I just fine, I call that into question. But she's
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: entirely self interested and out for what she can get.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Yep. And it'll be interesting when we go back into
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: the rewinds if we can see more of these hypocritical moments.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Because I'm gonna be looking for him, honey.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Me too, because I didn't even catch that one about
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: the whole LDS thing. I'm like, that's a good little comment.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: So let us know if you guys think Janelle's a
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: hypocrite or if we're just two bitches. So yeah, anyway,
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: last call we have is from Gilly from Philly.
• 26:36
  Speaker 8: Gilly, Oh my god, this is Gilly from Philly, the
• 26:40
  Speaker 8: opossum that identifies as a raccoon, and I'm here to
• 26:43
  Speaker 8: talk about Janelle Brown in all of her mean girl ways. Well,
• 26:47
  Speaker 8: we know that she was married to Mary's brother, but
• 26:50
  Speaker 8: when she tells the story, she makes it seem like
• 26:52
  Speaker 8: it was no big deal. We also know that the
• 26:54
  Speaker 8: only reason that she was invited to Mary and Chlode's
• 26:57
  Speaker 8: wedding is because she was the sister in law that
• 27:00
  Speaker 8: stop her from crushing on Cody and telling Mary how
• 27:02
  Speaker 8: good he looked and if she had future sons she
• 27:05
  Speaker 8: would want them to have his build and look. She
• 27:08
  Speaker 8: also approached Cody and said that she wanted to be
• 27:11
  Speaker 8: in on the family. She did not approach Mary, which
• 27:14
  Speaker 8: is supposed to be the custom in their religion. That's
• 27:17
  Speaker 8: something she also chooses to omit when she tells the story. Then,
• 27:21
  Speaker 8: Cody and Janelle both decided that they were going to
• 27:23
  Speaker 8: get married on Mary's birthday, which is a cold blooded
• 27:27
  Speaker 8: thing to do, and they knew exactly what they were
• 27:29
  Speaker 8: doing when they had children. Janelle said that when Madison
• 27:34
  Speaker 8: was born, her milk did not come in and she
• 27:36
  Speaker 8: could not breastfeed little Maddie. So guess who did it? Mary,
• 27:41
  Speaker 8: Mary breastfed Madison. Despite all the bickering and all of
• 27:46
  Speaker 8: the stuffing of food down the drain that Janelle was doing,
• 27:51
  Speaker 8: she numbed her emotions to the hurt that she felt
• 27:54
  Speaker 8: and the betrayal that she probably felt to care for
• 27:58
  Speaker 8: Janelle's child and to nurture her in the infancy moments
• 28:03
  Speaker 8: of her life. What do you guys think about that?
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: This is a new respect for Mary for me.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: You know what, I did not know about Mary breastfeeding Madison.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: I think I had heard that. I think I remember that.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: God, I did not know that. Yeah, so I agree
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: a newfound respect for me for Mary as well. And
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: also Janelle you a lazy ass bitch too, because well,
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: like you know, she was throwing food down the sink
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: just to be petty to Mary, so not doing the
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: dishes also at night, So you lazy. And then you
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: made Christine once Christine came into the family, like basically
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: raise your kids and also educate them.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Remember how Christine writes in her book that Janelle would
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: like march her outside and make her garden too.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because Janelle was lazy as book. And then she
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: like and I, okay, she wasn't all lazy. She was
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: working for the family and she was slaving away for that.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: So like that's all fair and valid. But you still
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: made these women and raise your children, educate them and
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: now also breastfeed them while what you were working. And
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: then you came home, ate some ice cream and went
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: to bed and then fucked Cody.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Yi, I'm your safe space, Cody.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, here.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: My bossom, I got you. Yeah.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm just like, after these tellaws and everything,
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: I'm like Janelle's So.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this was a bad season for Janelle for sure.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: But I didn't hear any of these phone calls in advance,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: So like, I already kind of addressed some of this
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: a little bit, just the shadiness of the timeline. When
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: she sees Cody and she gets the lightning bolt in
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: her pussy, and then I think probably makes it known,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: makes some advances, and we must question as to when
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: these sort of flirtatious advances were made. Was she married
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: to her first husban It's been like it's all a
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: little murky, it is, and sus.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: It's totally sus And then like on top of it all,
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: when you met Cody, then you wanted to get married
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: on Mary's birthday, and then you're telling her allegedly that
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: she could just celebrate her own birthday, her day of
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: her birth on a different day.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Well, and that wasn't clear. It wasn't clear that they
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: were asking Mary to make that sacrifice. What they said
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: was that we can just celebrate later. But we don't
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: know whether that was the anniversary or the birthday, but
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: who knows, it was probably the birth.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Sounds like it was the birthday, which is Mary.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: We don't give a crap about you.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: No, not at all.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Like I'm not here in the early years to make
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: excuses for Mary Brown, because my sense of things, my
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: psychic intuition, just tells me that she was going off
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: the rails on a crazy train. And I just get
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: the feeling, the vibration. She was like a little bit
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: abusive verbally, emotionally, like she made the trailer a top
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: sick place. And Janelle like maybe she's, you know, wants
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: to drop it low and spread it wide. Maybe she's
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: got that inclination, But like she also seems like a
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: soft spoken person. Somebody's not necessarily going to assert herself
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: strongly in a situation, and so she didn't know what
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: to do. And I think Mary was wild and out.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I think we're given Janelle too much
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: of a past. She is a tourist after all.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: No, I think I think Mary was crazy. I think
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: you've got Christine coming in calling it crazy. I think
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: you've got Cody saying she was crazy. I think Mary
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: has admitted that she has done many things wrong, and
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: I think it's happening in the early years. But now though,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: the Mary that we're seeing on the couch across her
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: from Suki, she seems well put together, grounded, Like I
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: like her mindset. I think she's focusing on the right things.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, I do think she's still deflecting and she's
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: still not taking full responsibility for things like the catfish,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: but like she's coming along, she's doing better. Yeah, I
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: like her much more. But I have a feeling if
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: I met her in my early twenties, same as her
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: out to beat her ass out, a straight beat her ass, Like,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: you don't talk to me like that, though you don't
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: tell me when I do my fucking dishes. Ye, having
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: said that I didn't do the dishes last night because listen,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: I didn't do it because.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: I was busy, hut and you were talking shit.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Let me finish my story. And I'm in bed with
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: my eleven man at like eleven PM, and I'm like,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: oh shit, I didn't do my dishes. He's like, don't
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: worry about it. Yeah, you can just do it in
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: the morning. It's perfectly fine. And I'm like, okay, I
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: can do that. I can be a Janelle.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: And so I got my kendle. I read for a
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: couple of hours. But bitch, at like one point thirty
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: in the morning, I'm like, I have got you are
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: to get into that kitchen and clean it. So I
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: was in there just doing dishes, bleach in the counter,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: sweeping up floors. I can't take it. I cannot leave
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: my kitchen dirty before I go to sleep.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, it ain't that serious.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: Well, okay, Janelle. For me, it is, I want to
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: wake up to a nice kitchen. I want the birds
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: to be singing. I want the coffee to be I
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: don't want to see a log.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: Of d that's fair. But every now and then, every
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: once in a while, if you're tired, it's fine. It
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: ain't no big deal.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: I just think Mary was a pain. Janelle was a pain, yeah,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: you know, and uneducated, disregulated. In a call to banging
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: a guy with a three inch penis with no game,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, life's gotta suck it.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: I mean it had to be really terrible in those
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: earlier years. Honestly, and like, I will just give Mary
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: somewhat of the benefit of a doubt. I think she
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: probably was off the rails for sure, But I'm wondering,
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: like when her emotional dysregulation happened, Like, was it after
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: Janelle moved into the family and started banging Cody really
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: loudly in the room next door. I mean, if it
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: were me, I probably would be raising hell too, but
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: I also wouldn't be living this lifestyle.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but do you remember when Cody and Mary went
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: to therapy and like, I can't remember the season, and
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: he tells her, you lied to me when we got married.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Does everybody remember that you lied to me? I'm like, well,
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: what she lied to you about? Of course, they never
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: clarify and we can't know for certain what he means,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: but it gives me the impression that from the very
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: beginning there was problem.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Probably. I mean even now with Cody and Mary talking
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: about how they they kind of just set each other off,
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: and like how Robin says that they're like old fashioned firecrackers.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: It's just like when one set off, the other set off.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: Like I imagine that's probably how their relationship was from
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: the jump. Once they got married, they got legally married,
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: they started living together. Maybe they had you know, some
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: good moments or whatever when it was just the two
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: of them, but the second they started actually becoming a
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: plural family, like it was gloves off.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: I think Mary was probably an emotional terrorist. Like when
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: you hear and I say terrorist, it's a callback to
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Betty Butterfield, but you wouldn't know that. But I think
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: she was an emotional terrorist. I think when you have
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Cody talking about Janelle wanting to be a safe space
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: for him, and then him and his apologics to Janelle
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: talking about like I didn't protect you, I think there
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: was so much volatility and craziness happening in that trailer.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: It was a whirlwind of terribleness, and I think most
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: of it originated from Mary. Yeah, but like listen, I'm
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: I'm one hundred percent in agreement that the Mary that
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: we see now is a different person and we're all
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: different than when we were twenty years old or Honey,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: you wouldn't want to know me what I was to
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: what do I was crazy?
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: You're probably like Mary Brown, I was I was.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: I probably would were scrapping, honey. Yeah, you could not
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: tell me nothing.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: So I'm a different person. Thinner, Yeah, pretty much thinner,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: just kidding, gorgeous.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: I think we can all agree that, like, we can
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: understand the sentiment behind Mary's hurt feelings because Janelle was
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: a home wreck and hoe and she was fucking Cody
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: really loudly and their little trailer and they were poor,
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: and Mary was jealous and didn't like the lifestyle and everything.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: But it sounds like from everybody involved, Mary was a
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: big old bitch and she was scary apparently, and according
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: to Cody, even in this tell all, she was scrapping,
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: she was getting in your face, right in your face.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: She never met me yelling at everybody, yelling at at
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: you in front of you.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Can't do that to everybody, you know. Sometimes you could
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: just tell when somebody hasn't been slapped the right way Mary,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, but she she was slapped down by life.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: And she talked to the last tell all about how
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: she used to be very volatile and expressive with her emotions,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: but then the pendulum swung all the other way. Also
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: now she says nothing, and I can relate to that
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: very much as well.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And like I did kind of feel for her
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: a little where she's like, you know, I turned it
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: all off, like I completely just shut everything down. And
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: that's like not a good way to go about life,
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: and it's not fair to her. And so it makes
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: sense why she's doing this whole worthy up thing, and
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: it makes sense why now she's even afraid a little
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: bit to speak her mind and speak her truth because
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: she doesn't want to let out the bitchy side of her.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: I want her to, but it would just pointed in
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: the right direction, Yes, just pointed to codium Robbins. Gosh,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: that was an awesome call. Jilly from Philly, Billy from
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Phillykhilly from Philly. You got us going. We were talking
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: about these women in the trailer.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Very good call from no Possum who identifies.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: I love no possum, me too.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: They're very cute. We have a bunch in our backyard.
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: You do. Do you feed them?
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Of course, that's good and they need a warm place
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: to stay.
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Well, and people are so put off by them because
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: they're not attractive, but they're cute there. But they're really
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: useful for the environment and they're harmless anyway, that's great.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: We love an no possum. That's all I'm saying.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: We do and we love all of your calls. Thank
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: you guys to everyone who's called in, and sorry if
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: we couldn't get to every single call because.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of them.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: We're busy ladies over here.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: We are. And we also want to say that we
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: want to acknowledge the closing of the momentous season twenty
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Sister Wives. You might have some final thoughts and opinions.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah that you want to scream into the dumpster and
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: we want to hear it. So if you want to
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: call and give us those final thoughts, all you have
• 38:11
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• 38:13
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• 38:16
  Speaker 1: how you feel and hopefully we can get to some
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: of these calls. Yeah, now, Beatrice, is there anything else
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: that we need to say to these beautiful raccoons and
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: opossums before we get up bond out of here.
• 38:30
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• 38:32
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• 38:35
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• 38:38
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• 38:40
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• 38:42
  Speaker 1: I think we're going to be back next week to
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: pick up our sister wives rewinds rewinds and conversation.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: Maybe suddenly Amish.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Maybe suddenly amish. I highly don't want to do it.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: I'm really going to dig in my ails on that
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: and have a further conversation with you. But we're going
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: to be back next week.
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  Speaker 5: Make sure to come back for that.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: Until then, please do not forget that we have nothing
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: but love for you, and please all light es