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I Went Onboard an Extraterrestrial Craft: Six Scary True Cases · UFOS & PARANORMAL WITH PRESTON DENNETT

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Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, my name is Preston Dennett, and welcome to
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Speaker 1: a new episode of UFOs and the Paranormal. Today's episode
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Speaker 1: is called I Went on Board in Extraterrestrial Craft. Six
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Speaker 1: scary true cases. I love talking about on board UFO encounters.
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Speaker 1: It's probably the most extensive type of UFO encounter a
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Speaker 1: person can have, certainly among the most controversial aspects of
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Speaker 1: this subject. And yet these cases are not only the
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Speaker 1: most interesting, I think, but certainly have the most potential
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Speaker 1: to teach us about what's going on here. And I've
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Speaker 1: got six cases that you probably haven't heard before. They're
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Speaker 1: not super well known, they definitely deserve to be. There
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Speaker 1: are a lot of cases of these kinds, and the
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Speaker 1: six cases I've chosen today come from a wide variety
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Speaker 1: of locations. They started back in the nineteen sixties up
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Speaker 1: to the nineteen nineties. We've got a case from Argentina,
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Speaker 1: case from Canada, one from France, one from Hungary, and
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Speaker 1: two in the United States, one in Alabama and one
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Speaker 1: in Kansas. Some of these are multiple witness cases. There
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Speaker 1: is quite a bit of evidence to support a number
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Speaker 1: of these cases as well, different types of ets, and
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Speaker 1: just some really extensive cases where people did get to
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Speaker 1: communicate with these ets. So let's just get started. First
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Speaker 1: case I want to talk about today, I call contact
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Speaker 1: in Calgary Again. This is not a very well known
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Speaker 1: case that occurred on November seventeenth, nineteen sixty seven, in
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Speaker 1: a suburb in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. And this is a
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Speaker 1: single witness case. It's very interesting because while the witness
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Speaker 1: did undergo hypnosis to recall some of the details of
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Speaker 1: his experience, initially did have missing time, but remembered it
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Speaker 1: spontaneously through a dream, and this is what actually prompted
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Speaker 1: him to undergo hypnosis. It's a really fascinating and unusual case.
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Speaker 1: This case comes from researcher William k Allen and was
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Speaker 1: also published in an article Contactee Supplies New Clues to
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Speaker 1: the UFO Mystery, which was written by b Ann Slate
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Speaker 1: and appeared in the April nineteen seventy six issue of
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Speaker 1: UFO Report. The sole witness in this case is thirteen
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Speaker 1: year old David See. Walt had gone to visit a
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Speaker 1: friend's home where the two boys did some weightlifting, and
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Speaker 1: then at five forty five pm again on November seventeen,
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Speaker 1: nineteen sixty seven, David began what should have been a
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Speaker 1: three minute walk back to his home in Calgary, but
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Speaker 1: of course that's not what happened. As he was crossing
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Speaker 1: a vacant lot and empty field, he heard a high
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Speaker 1: pitched sound coming from above, and looking up, he saw
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Speaker 1: a craft he said was about the size of a house,
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Speaker 1: hovering only maybe thirty to forty feet overhead. It was
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Speaker 1: silver gray. It had a band of green, yellow, blue, orange, red,
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Speaker 1: and pink lights around the edge, all of which seemed
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Speaker 1: to be blending into each other. So this frightened him.
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Speaker 1: David ran and the craft began to follow him. Suddenly,
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Speaker 1: as he's running away, it shot an orange beam of
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Speaker 1: light right at him. It came from the bottom of
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Speaker 1: the craft. Dazed and frightened, David continued to run straight home.
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Speaker 1: In fact, he dashed into the front door. He was
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Speaker 1: missing one of his shoes. He ran upstairs and hid
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Speaker 1: under his bed. His sister Angela found him hiding there
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Speaker 1: and saw that his eyes were glazed and he appeared
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Speaker 1: to be in shock, so she shook him, asked him
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Speaker 1: what happened, and he told her, I've been chased by
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Speaker 1: a flying saucer. It was now six thirty, so there
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Speaker 1: were over forty minutes of time that he could not
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Speaker 1: account for. His parents, of course, heard the story and
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Speaker 1: became very concerned, especially because over the next few days, David,
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Speaker 1: who was normally a calm boy, was very nervous and uneasy.
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Speaker 1: So his sister Angela later retraced David's path home and
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Speaker 1: she found a shoe in the middle of the road.
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Speaker 1: His parents decided to find a UFO researcher and they
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Speaker 1: located William k Allen, who, only three days after David's encounter,
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Speaker 1: did a recorded interview with him, and as William says,
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Speaker 1: I taped his description of what he believed happened, and
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Speaker 1: that's where the case sat for about five months. Then,
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Speaker 1: on April twenty first, nineteen sixty eight, David experienced a
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Speaker 1: very vivid and realistic nightmare, his first dream about this incident,
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Speaker 1: where he basically relived the encounter, only this time he
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Speaker 1: did recall being taken on board this craft. At the
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Speaker 1: time he was having this dream, David was thrashing around
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Speaker 1: in bed and he was woken up by his younger brother,
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Speaker 1: who was concerned about this, and upon awakening, David told
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Speaker 1: his little brother call Dad. Now I know what happened
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Speaker 1: when I was chased by the UFO. So this dream
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Speaker 1: gave David only partial recall of being pulled on board
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Speaker 1: and seeing what he called quote monsters. He recalled being
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Speaker 1: physically examined, but later David did agree to undergo hypnosis
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Speaker 1: by a dental surgeon by the name of doctor Colvitz,
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Speaker 1: who used hypnosis in his practice, so they were hoping
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Speaker 1: that he could recall more of what happened. So doctor
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Speaker 1: Colvitz first suggested that perhaps David had concocted the whole
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Speaker 1: story as an excuse for coming home late. David hostily
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Speaker 1: denied this, and in fact his mother confirmed that David
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Speaker 1: had always been home on time. A psychologist by the
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Speaker 1: name of doctor Massan and the researcher William k Allen
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Speaker 1: also attended this hypnosis session, and under hypnosis, David was
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Speaker 1: taken back to the incident, and he immediately began to
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Speaker 1: experience an intense fear. In fact, he perspired profusely, He
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Speaker 1: started wringing his hands, his whole body started shaking. He
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Speaker 1: was unable to speak or get past the memory block. Finally,
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Speaker 1: the hypnotists suggested that David try to remember the events
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Speaker 1: as though he was watching TV. This technique worked. David
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Speaker 1: began to remember. He recalled seeing this UFO trying to run,
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Speaker 1: being struck by the beam of light, and then, as
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Speaker 1: David says, I was sort of in a trance, the
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Speaker 1: beam just brought me up into the ship. Now inside
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Speaker 1: this craft, he was immediately confronted by two, he says,
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Speaker 1: scary looking non human entities with a sort of reptilian
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Speaker 1: like appearance. As David says, it has scaly skin. It
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Speaker 1: looked like crocodile skin, sort of rough all over. It
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Speaker 1: has holes for its nose and holes for its ears.
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Speaker 1: It has a slit on its face for a mouth.
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Speaker 1: It's brown. So the beings were very clinical. As they undressed,
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Speaker 1: David placed him on a table and began to examine him.
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Speaker 1: And as David says in his own words, they didn't
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Speaker 1: show any expression. They put me on sort of a cot.
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Speaker 1: He's looking at my body, he's studying it. He took
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Speaker 1: all my clothes off. They're bringing me through a hallway
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Speaker 1: into another room. It has all sorts of bright lights
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Speaker 1: in it. There's another table. They put me on that table.
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Speaker 1: He's lifting my head up. He looks at my hair,
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Speaker 1: and my eyes and my nose. They put this other
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Speaker 1: thing over me. It's a grayish color, and they just
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Speaker 1: throwed over me. And then this great, big, huge orange
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Speaker 1: colored light comes down and has shone on me. So
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Speaker 1: David could now see that there were actually four of
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Speaker 1: these beings, all who looked pretty much the same. Each
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Speaker 1: was about six feet tall. He said that they had
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Speaker 1: round heads, four fingers on each hand. They did not
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Speaker 1: appear to be wearing anything as far as he could tell,
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Speaker 1: and he said he could hear them talking in a
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Speaker 1: strange language, which sounded like sort of just a buzzing
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Speaker 1: noise to him. He says they took a small gray
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Speaker 1: instrument sort of like a needle like device, and stuck
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Speaker 1: it in his arm, but he felt no pain. As
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Speaker 1: he says, I felt quote funny numb. At this point
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Speaker 1: the examination was over, the beings put his clothes back on,
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Speaker 1: he was taken out from the room, and then, as
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Speaker 1: he says, quote, they beamed me down in the empty lot.
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Speaker 1: So he's thoroughly frightened. At this point, his body is
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Speaker 1: still partly numb, his head is swirling, and he ran
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Speaker 1: home as fast as he could. The psychologist, doctor Masson,
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Speaker 1: learned that David had earlier undergone an appendectomy. This was
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Speaker 1: in fourth grade, and he questioned David about it and
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Speaker 1: learned that one of the doctors was old and had
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Speaker 1: wrinkled skin, and developed this crazy theory that David's hypnotic
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Speaker 1: recall was really just a subconscious memory of his appendectomy. Now,
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Speaker 1: researcher William k Allen replied, in this way, I can
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Speaker 1: no way concur I highly doubt that this witness had
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Speaker 1: a hallucination or a fabrication of his prior appendectomy surgery.
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Speaker 1: That really makes no sense whatsoever, and it certainly doesn't
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Speaker 1: explain the missing time. I think that's just a debunking
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Speaker 1: explanation coming from a skeptic who can't quite wrap his
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Speaker 1: mind around the fact that these things do happen. There
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Speaker 1: are a lot of cases is coming from all over
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Speaker 1: the world. Certainly remarkable case. And now we move to
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Speaker 1: the next one, which is super interesting. I call this
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Speaker 1: one contact in Locksley. This is a somewhat brief case,
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Speaker 1: but the events surrounding it are truly astonishing. This case
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Speaker 1: occurred on October seventeenth, nineteen seventy three, in Locksley, Alabama.
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Speaker 1: What's interesting about this case is that nineteen seventy three
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Speaker 1: has been termed the Year of the Humanoids. There was
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Speaker 1: a very intense wave on that year, particularly towards the
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Speaker 1: end of the year, and this particular event in Locksley
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Speaker 1: had events both before and after it, and really a
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Speaker 1: huge number on the very same day. So this brings
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Speaker 1: a very interesting aspect to this case. But the case
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Speaker 1: itself is also quite unusual, not very well known at all,
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Speaker 1: and I think you'll find it fascinating. October seventeen, nineteen
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Speaker 1: seventy three, will probably go down in UFO history as
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Speaker 1: one of the busiest days of UFO activity. Ever, this
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Speaker 1: was just days after the very famous Pascagoula case in
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Speaker 1: Alabama involving Charlie Hickson and Calvin Parker, and it was
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Speaker 1: a few days before the famous Jeff Greenhaw Foulkville, Alabama
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Speaker 1: case where the police officer came upon a UFO occupant
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Speaker 1: and actually photographed it. So, yeah, October seventeen, something happened
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Speaker 1: that was very profound. And it began in the afternoon
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Speaker 1: of October seventeen when two children in Watuba, Tennessee, so
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Speaker 1: that they saw a circular copper colored craft which hovered
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Speaker 1: right above the ground. They said, a door opened and
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Speaker 1: a six foot tall being with claw like hands tried
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Speaker 1: to grab them. Now reportedly six other reports of UFOs
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Speaker 1: came from that area alone at that time, and this
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Speaker 1: is just the beginning. It was a short time later
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Speaker 1: at four forty pm, Teddy Waldroop, age seven, and his
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Speaker 1: friend Kevin Whitehead, age nine, were playing at the Saint
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Speaker 1: Joseph's School plurry ground in Princeton, Indiana, and this is
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Speaker 1: when they saw a silvery object hovering and then taking
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Speaker 1: off at high acceleration. As Kevin's mother, Miss Charles Whitehead, says,
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Speaker 1: Kevin came home in a near panic. That's how I
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Speaker 1: knew it wasn't just a little boy's joke. So that's
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Speaker 1: a case in Tennessee, another in Indiana. All across the
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Speaker 1: South here and the Midwest, cases were occurring at a
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Speaker 1: rapid rate. On October seventeen, it was around twilight that
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Speaker 1: same night a man was driving along Highway eighty two
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Speaker 1: near Europa, Mississippi, when he said he saw a UFO
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Speaker 1: shaped kind of like an inverted cup. He said it
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Speaker 1: was covered with green, blue flashing lights and was hovering
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Speaker 1: only three feet above the road's surface. So the man
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Speaker 1: approached to about three hundred feet to this craft when
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Speaker 1: his headlights went out and his car engine died. He
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Speaker 1: says there was another car right behind him who also stopped.
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Speaker 1: At this point, a second identical craft appeared about sixty
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Speaker 1: feet above the first, sending down a beam of light
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Speaker 1: onto the first craft, and it was at this point
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Speaker 1: that he says he saw a gray, scaly humanoid, which
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Speaker 1: he described very strange as looking something like a catfish,
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Speaker 1: had a ridge on its back, weird squirrel like legs,
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Speaker 1: flippered feet. He saw this thing emerge from the top
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Speaker 1: of the craft. Lot of detail on this case. I
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Speaker 1: definitely have some questions about it, but given that there's
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Speaker 1: so many cases occurring on this night, clearly something profound
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Speaker 1: is happening. Because it was that same night, October seventeenth,
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Speaker 1: eight pm, an eleven year old girl and her cousin
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Speaker 1: were making a scarecrow for a Halloween in the front
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Speaker 1: yard of their home in Connorsville, Indiana, when they heard
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Speaker 1: a humming sound coming from above. Looking up, they saw
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Speaker 1: what they first thought was a plane, until suddenly it
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Speaker 1: stopped right above them. The humming sound stopped and they
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Speaker 1: could now see that this was a craft, a silver
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Speaker 1: gray saucer with bright lights along the bottom, and they
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Speaker 1: watched as it ejected three foggy looking quote things. One
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Speaker 1: of these foggy looking things began to circle the field.
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Speaker 1: They watched this for about three minutes until the object
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Speaker 1: moved to the northeast. Same evening, two men were driving
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Speaker 1: along on Route twenty three near w New Jersey when
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Speaker 1: they saw a large, round silver craft hovering above a
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Speaker 1: field and then apparently land, so they stopped exited their
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Speaker 1: cars to watch. One of these gentlemen became scared drove off,
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Speaker 1: but the other reportedly remained and said that seven human
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Speaker 1: looking figures emerged from the craft, four men, three women,
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Speaker 1: and he says he held a short conversation with them.
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Speaker 1: Again no further information on most of these cases, but
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Speaker 1: here's another. It was nine pm same night. Paul Brown
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Speaker 1: was driving along US Route twenty nine near Danielsville, Georgia,
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Speaker 1: when he says a silver upo dropped down and blocked
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Speaker 1: the road about three hundred feet ahead of him. He
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Speaker 1: screeched to a stop and watched his two beings. Each
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Speaker 1: was about four and a half feet tall and wearing
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Speaker 1: silver suits and white gloves. He said, it looked like
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Speaker 1: they had reddish faces and white hair, but they appear
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Speaker 1: underneath this craft. Now, Paul grabbed his gun, stepped halfway
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Speaker 1: out of his car, and with his gun in hand,
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Speaker 1: pointed it towards them. The beings immediately turned and re
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Speaker 1: entered the craft, which took off with a whooshing sound.
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Speaker 1: Paul says he fired several shots at the craft with
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Speaker 1: no apparent effect other than to apparently chase this craft away.
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Speaker 1: More cases on this night It's crazy. Later that evening,
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Speaker 1: a woman from Pikesville, Maryland, said she was woken up
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Speaker 1: by a loud explosion followed by a humming noise, and
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Speaker 1: walking out onto her front porch, she saw a red,
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Speaker 1: transparent object about fifteen feet long eight feet high and
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Speaker 1: a transparent bubble on top, and she could see a
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Speaker 1: humanoid figure standing up inside of it. And there are
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Speaker 1: more reports. The crew of an offshore oil platform and
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Speaker 1: probably Louisiana, so that they saw an object hovering about
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Speaker 1: one thousand feet overhead. It then descended to about one
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Speaker 1: hundred feet, which caused the platform's entire electrical system to fail.
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Speaker 1: Ten other reports from Powhattan, Louisiana, came in of a
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Speaker 1: multicolored object which was hovering and gliding. There were many
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Speaker 1: other reports, but the one I really want to talk
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Speaker 1: about occurred to a judgment by the name of Clarence
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Speaker 1: Ray Patterson. He's a thirty one year old electrician, and
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Speaker 1: it was about fifteen minutes before midnight October seventeen. He
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Speaker 1: was driving along Interstate ten. This is near Locksley again, Locksley, Alabama,
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Speaker 1: and he was driving along Interstate ten near the Locksley
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Speaker 1: exit when he noticed a quote unidentified spaceship. He said
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Speaker 1: it was cigar shaped, that a green light was over
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Speaker 1: his pickup truck, and it sent down this beam of
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Speaker 1: light onto his truck. And the next thing he knew,
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Speaker 1: he found himself and his pickup truck inside the object.
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Speaker 1: He's still sitting in his pickup truck at this point.
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Speaker 1: Now his memory did go in and out, but he
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Speaker 1: recalled seeing six beings which he said had claw like hands.
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Speaker 1: He says they were about his height or perhaps a
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Speaker 1: little shorter. They walked very stiffly, and in fact he
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Speaker 1: had the impression that they might be robotic. He said
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Speaker 1: his body felt paralyzed numb. He did smell a sort
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Speaker 1: of sulfur odor, and he says, they pulled him from
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Speaker 1: his truck and he found himself being examined by these beings.
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Speaker 1: He had a distinct impression that they were reading his
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Speaker 1: mind telepathically, and that's really all he could recall. The
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Speaker 1: next thing he knew, he was back on the highway,
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Speaker 1: but it was now a half hour later, and his
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Speaker 1: truck was in a different location. It was now on
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Speaker 1: State Road two ninety seven in Escambia County, Florida, which
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Speaker 1: is about twenty nine miles away from where he was
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Speaker 1: taken and about ten miles from his home at twenty
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Speaker 1: sixteen West Godfrey Street in Pensacola, So he drove home.
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Speaker 1: He immediately phoned the police, who was put in touch
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Speaker 1: with Police Sergeant Lucien Mitchell, who questioned him about his experience, and,
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Speaker 1: as Sergeant Mitchell says in his own words, Patterson became
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Speaker 1: very emotional and started crying. He told me that I
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Speaker 1: thought he was some kind of nut, and that he
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Speaker 1: refused to tell this story again to anyone. I might
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Speaker 1: add when Patterson was relating this incident to me, he
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Speaker 1: was very nervous and said from the beginning of the
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Speaker 1: interview that no one would believe him, but Officer Mitchell
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Speaker 1: took the report seriously, and as it turned out, no
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Speaker 1: less than seven police officers in Escambia County had reported
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Speaker 1: seeing UFOs between three forty and five am that same evening,
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Speaker 1: hovering just south of Pensacola Beach. So what's so amazing
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Speaker 1: about Clarence Patterson's experience here is that it is just
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Speaker 1: one of more than two dozen that occurred in the
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Speaker 1: US on that same day, and many of them involving humanoids. Now,
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Speaker 1: a good number of these cases were covered in the
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Speaker 1: book The Year of the Humanoids by David Webb. What
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Speaker 1: an amazing case that was, given that there were so
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Speaker 1: many other cases occurring the same exact day, that raises
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Speaker 1: all kinds of questions. I mean, it's almost undeniable that
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Speaker 1: something was going on on that day. How can so
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Speaker 1: many people be reporting sightings and landings and humanoids on
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Speaker 1: one day? It's crazy. And now we move to the
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Speaker 1: next case, which is probably the best known of this
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Speaker 1: little compilation of six cases. And this one you may
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Speaker 1: have heard before, but I don't know if you've heard
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Speaker 1: of all of the events surrounding it. I thought it
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Speaker 1: was an important case. That's why I wanted to present
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Speaker 1: it to you today and I call it contact Invenada, Twerto.
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Speaker 1: This is in September of nineteen seventy eight, a number
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Speaker 1: of events in the beginning of September again in Venado, Tuerto, Argentina,
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Speaker 1: and the main case is a single witness case. There's
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Speaker 1: a lot of evidence to support this case, particularly because
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Speaker 1: of the events that occurred both before and after it.
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Speaker 1: This case is one of Argentina's better known encounters, but
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Speaker 1: what is not as well known are the many cases
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Speaker 1: that are connected to it. It actually involves a series
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Speaker 1: of amazing close encounters, and one of the first occurred
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Speaker 1: to a gentleman by the name of Carlos a Helian.
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Speaker 1: He's a carpenter. It was around four point thirty am
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Speaker 1: on September third, nineteen seventy eight, that Carlos was driving
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Speaker 1: along National Route eight. This is around the three hundred
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Speaker 1: and fifty kilometer mark which you can see here, which
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Speaker 1: perhaps significantly is not far from a large water and
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Speaker 1: power plant. We do know upos are attracted to installations
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Speaker 1: at any rate. To his left, Carlos saw about two
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Speaker 1: kilometers away a very bright light over an empty field,
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Speaker 1: and as he drove closer, he saw that there were
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Speaker 1: no less than seven large glowing disc shaped craft landed
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Speaker 1: on the ground in this field. He said, they appear
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Speaker 1: to have concave bottoms semi spherical domes on top. There
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Speaker 1: were quite large, about twelve meters in diameter. They were
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Speaker 1: all emitting an intense bright light which lit up the
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Speaker 1: environment around them like daylight. But even more amazing, he
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Speaker 1: observed twooid figures moving around them, and they appeared to
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Speaker 1: be performing various tasks. Now Carlos's car was now close
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Speaker 1: enough that he could see these beings pretty good. He
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Speaker 1: says they were very tall, over two meters in height,
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Speaker 1: at least six feet, and they were wearing white coveralls
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Speaker 1: with dark helmets. They were moving very slowly around. He
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Speaker 1: saw one of the men down picked something up off
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Speaker 1: the ground and give it to the other humanoid, but
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Speaker 1: he's still driving, so as he's driving by them, one
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Speaker 1: of these craft rose vertically upwards to a height of
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Speaker 1: about fifty meters one hundred and fifty feet. He says,
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Speaker 1: it then began to move like a pendulum. At this
23:43
Speaker 1: time it was emitting bright red and violet lights. Carlos
23:48
Speaker 1: continued driving just a short distance when this craft suddenly
23:52
Speaker 1: zoomed right towards him and shone two powerful beams of
23:56
Speaker 1: light on his car, which immediately began to lose both
24:00
Speaker 1: power and speed, and for the next five hundred to
24:04
Speaker 1: six hundred meters, this disc followed him, keeping these beams
24:08
Speaker 1: of light trained on his car until suddenly darting back
24:12
Speaker 1: to its original location. Carlos, who kept driving, understandably he
24:19
Speaker 1: was quite frightened. This craft moves off, and he tried
24:23
Speaker 1: to keep his eye on it, but soon trees and
24:25
Speaker 1: structures hid this craft from his view, and that was
24:30
Speaker 1: his experience. But it was a case that occurred three
24:35
Speaker 1: days later in the same general area that would later
24:38
Speaker 1: become world famous. In fact, this case was researched by
24:42
Speaker 1: Jacques Vlet and would appear in his book Confrontations. The
24:47
Speaker 1: witness is twelve year old Juan Oscar Perez, and it
24:51
Speaker 1: was around six forty five a m. On September sixth,
24:54
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy eight. Juan had been sent outside to do
24:58
Speaker 1: his chores, which involved gathering a herd of horses for
25:01
Speaker 1: his family. This was a foggy morning. He was riding
25:06
Speaker 1: home on his horse when he felt something flying overhead.
25:10
Speaker 1: Shortly later, he did see several objects appear maneuvering overhead,
25:15
Speaker 1: emitting powerful beams of colored light. This caused the horses
25:20
Speaker 1: to panic and gallop away. In fact, one could barely
25:23
Speaker 1: control his own horse, and quite frightened, he fled home.
25:28
Speaker 1: Once at home, his father was not happy and sent
25:32
Speaker 1: him back out again to find the horses. So that's
25:36
Speaker 1: what Juan did. He went back on on his horse.
25:40
Speaker 1: He returned to the field where the horses had been,
25:43
Speaker 1: and this time he came upon a large round object
25:46
Speaker 1: with a dome on top, windows around the edge, basically
25:50
Speaker 1: a classic flying saucer. Says this was about twelve meters
25:54
Speaker 1: in diameter thirty six feet or so. And as he
25:58
Speaker 1: approached a door opened in this craft, a little ladder
26:02
Speaker 1: retracted out and seven and a seven foot tall humanoid
26:08
Speaker 1: wearing a silver gray uniform and a cylindrical helmet emerged
26:13
Speaker 1: out of this door. He says, a hose like tube
26:16
Speaker 1: went from this being suit back to inside the ship,
26:20
Speaker 1: and this being began speaking a strange language and used
26:24
Speaker 1: gestures and actually invited one inside this craft. One was intrigued.
26:30
Speaker 1: He accepted the invitation. In fact, he tied his horse
26:34
Speaker 1: to this ladder that came out of the craft and
26:37
Speaker 1: climbed up inside, and as Wan says, was like a hut,
26:42
Speaker 1: but with a tall round dome. I wanted to go in.
26:46
Speaker 1: Lights of many colors lit up. As the horse was scared,
26:50
Speaker 1: I tied him to the huge ladder that came out,
26:52
Speaker 1: which I remember was gray and very cold. So one
26:56
Speaker 1: had no experience with UFO, as he compared this to
26:59
Speaker 1: a hut. At any rate, Jan climbed inside the being
27:03
Speaker 1: followed him. One could see now that this being was
27:06
Speaker 1: wearing what looked like metallic gloves. He noticed several things
27:11
Speaker 1: in the interior of the craft. He saw panels with
27:14
Speaker 1: what looked like buttons on them. He saw some tables.
27:17
Speaker 1: He saw a smaller, robotic looking being only about four
27:21
Speaker 1: feet tall, which had sort of tools at the end
27:24
Speaker 1: of its arms or extremities what looked like wheels for
27:29
Speaker 1: a base, and was sampling bones that looked like they
27:32
Speaker 1: came from a horse or a cow. He was putting
27:34
Speaker 1: them in containers. In fact, a week earlier, One's father
27:38
Speaker 1: had found a dead cow in the fields near their home.
27:42
Speaker 1: Now Wan tried to touch the being several times, but
27:46
Speaker 1: he says it was weird because each time he was
27:49
Speaker 1: thwarted by an invisible barrier of some kind. Now, the
27:54
Speaker 1: experience ended abruptly when the taller being pressed a button
27:58
Speaker 1: which caused the latter to start to retract back into
28:01
Speaker 1: the craft. So Wan, seeing this, quickly rushed back down
28:06
Speaker 1: the ladder to untie his horse. The taller being followed.
28:10
Speaker 1: One asked this taller being if he could keep one
28:13
Speaker 1: of the gloves, and apparently this request was granted because
28:17
Speaker 1: this being took off a glove and handed it to Wan.
28:21
Speaker 1: Now at this point, one could see that this being's
28:23
Speaker 1: hand was sort of greenish in color, with what looked
28:26
Speaker 1: like blueish nails at the tip. At this point, the
28:30
Speaker 1: taller being pricked Wan's arm, which he perceived as sort
28:33
Speaker 1: of a blood sample being taken. At any rate, One
28:38
Speaker 1: jumped on his horse at this point and began to
28:40
Speaker 1: gallop home with the glove still in his possession. But
28:44
Speaker 1: he had only gone a very short distance when we
28:46
Speaker 1: saw two objects emerge from this landed craft and immediately
28:52
Speaker 1: began to follow him. One of these emitted a small
28:56
Speaker 1: spherical device which swept down right above Wan and suck
29:00
Speaker 1: the glove back up seemingly with magnetic force right up
29:04
Speaker 1: into it. Jan then heard the craft behind him emitting
29:08
Speaker 1: a loud, piercing hum, and he saw it take off
29:11
Speaker 1: and disappear into the sky. Now, this whole case was
29:16
Speaker 1: later the subject of a documentary called Witness of Another World,
29:20
Speaker 1: made in twenty nineteen, and as Wan says, after the
29:25
Speaker 1: age of twelve, my life changed. What happened to me
29:29
Speaker 1: is something that even today I can't understand. For a
29:32
Speaker 1: long time, I carried the fear with me. Now it
29:37
Speaker 1: turns out that Wan's mother had also had a profound
29:39
Speaker 1: encounter with a UFO when she was twelve, and following
29:43
Speaker 1: that had very strong premonitions throughout her life, and the
29:48
Speaker 1: same thing happened to Carlos. He started having all kinds
29:51
Speaker 1: of dreams that would come true. He did have a
29:54
Speaker 1: dream that an asteroid would come near Earth and cause
29:57
Speaker 1: great floods. So this is the theme we see again
30:01
Speaker 1: in a lot of contact accounts. A very strange and
30:05
Speaker 1: unique case, quite incredible. But it was just three days
30:11
Speaker 1: earlier that someone else had that encounter, which provides a
30:14
Speaker 1: level of corroboration, as does an encounter which occurred two
30:18
Speaker 1: days after Juans again in Venado, Tuerto. This third case
30:24
Speaker 1: occurred again two days later at three thirty seven am,
30:30
Speaker 1: and the witness in this case is sixteen year old
30:33
Speaker 1: Roberto Francisco Torres. He was riding his bike along Belgrano
30:39
Speaker 1: Street again in Venado Tuerto. He was on his way
30:42
Speaker 1: to his place of employment, a bakery. He had to
30:46
Speaker 1: get there very early, and he had just reached the
30:49
Speaker 1: intersection of Belgrano and Mitre, which you can see here,
30:53
Speaker 1: when he noticed that the lighted store signs were becoming extinguished,
30:58
Speaker 1: and at the same time, the area around him became
31:01
Speaker 1: very brightly illuminated from an object above him, which was
31:05
Speaker 1: sending down a huge beam of light. So the witness
31:11
Speaker 1: in this case, Roberto, says, he felt a strong sensation
31:15
Speaker 1: of intense heat coming from it, and looking up, he
31:19
Speaker 1: saw an oval shaped craft with a dome on top.
31:23
Speaker 1: It was about ten meters wide, he said, hovering fifty
31:26
Speaker 1: meters overhead. Said the base of the craft was glowing
31:30
Speaker 1: bright red. It had portholes all around the edge of it,
31:34
Speaker 1: and it was also emitting this bright white light. This
31:38
Speaker 1: craft was rocking smoothly back and forth. Both Surprised and terrified,
31:45
Speaker 1: Roberto began riding his bike away as fast as he could,
31:49
Speaker 1: while at the same time yelling at the top of
31:51
Speaker 1: his lungs for somebody to come out and help him.
31:55
Speaker 1: Was very early. Nobody came out until Roberto actually arrived
31:59
Speaker 1: at the bakery and the owner there saw Robert Berto's
32:03
Speaker 1: frightened face. Now, a later investigation revealed something very interesting.
32:10
Speaker 1: The Water Electric Power Company had registered a blackout precisely
32:15
Speaker 1: at three thirty seven a m. Which is the exact
32:19
Speaker 1: time of Roberto's sighting. A very unusual case, I think,
32:24
Speaker 1: by even euthological standards, such a shame that the witness
32:29
Speaker 1: wasn't able to get a keep up that et artifact.
32:33
Speaker 1: There's glove which could have been you know, the smoking
32:38
Speaker 1: gun evidence. This sort of thing does turn up in
32:41
Speaker 1: a number of cases. People have an artifact and then
32:44
Speaker 1: they don't. I mean that happened in the Betty and
32:48
Speaker 1: Barney Hill case. She was about to take a book
32:50
Speaker 1: off board the craft when the ets changed their mind.
32:54
Speaker 1: That looks like what happened here. At any rate, it's
32:58
Speaker 1: a pretty compelling case with so many cases occurring around
33:02
Speaker 1: that time in that area. Pretty well known case, very
33:06
Speaker 1: well investigated, and certainly when that adds to our knowledge
33:10
Speaker 1: of what's going on here. And now we move to
33:14
Speaker 1: another case which is virtually unknown. I call this one
33:17
Speaker 1: contact in summer Court. This occurred on July tenth, nineteen
33:22
Speaker 1: eighty three, in summer Court, France. This is the hate
33:27
Speaker 1: Marne area. This is a very rural area, but a
33:31
Speaker 1: really amazing case involving a single witness to a certain extent,
33:38
Speaker 1: though his whole family did see UFOs. And while this
33:43
Speaker 1: poor witness he was really traumatized by his encounter, as
33:48
Speaker 1: we shall see, I really feel for the witness in
33:50
Speaker 1: this case, Stefan Gasparovic. He was affected quite profoundly by
33:55
Speaker 1: his encounter. In fact, it was on July eighth through
33:59
Speaker 1: the ninth that Steffan, a forty five year old fireman, woodworker,
34:04
Speaker 1: an employee at a nearby furniture factory, decided to go
34:08
Speaker 1: camping with his family and a neighbor on the summer
34:11
Speaker 1: Court Plateau, not far from their home in summer Court.
34:15
Speaker 1: This is in eastern France. He has six children, by
34:18
Speaker 1: the way, so they're all camping and it was around
34:21
Speaker 1: three a m. When he observed a blindingly bright quote
34:26
Speaker 1: ball of fire overhead. He said it had a kind
34:29
Speaker 1: of funnel at the base was pretty low in the sky,
34:33
Speaker 1: about six hundred feet two hundred meters. He saw it
34:36
Speaker 1: three times that night, so this is quite unusual. And
34:41
Speaker 1: it returned again the next night. They were still out
34:43
Speaker 1: there camping and he saw it. In fact, it affected
34:47
Speaker 1: him so profoundly, and it scared his family that they
34:51
Speaker 1: decided to cut their camping trip short. But Steffan was
34:56
Speaker 1: very curious. So the next night, on Sunday, July tenth,
35:01
Speaker 1: he decided to return alone to the Summer Court plateau,
35:05
Speaker 1: and this time he took a pair of binoculars with him,
35:08
Speaker 1: and it was around ten pm that this strange glowing
35:11
Speaker 1: object made a third appearance, but this time, instead of
35:15
Speaker 1: hovering overhead at about six hundred feet, it came zooming
35:20
Speaker 1: down straight for him. And he could now see that
35:23
Speaker 1: this sphere was about three meters wide, had a luminous
35:29
Speaker 1: upper section, and it was actually a craft because inside
35:32
Speaker 1: he could see three figures, very short, no taller than
35:36
Speaker 1: three feet. He said that they were wearing jumpsuits which
35:39
Speaker 1: looked green in color. It absolutely terrified him. He threw
35:44
Speaker 1: himself to the ground. He lay flat on his stomach,
35:48
Speaker 1: and he says, this object hung just over him, when
35:51
Speaker 1: suddenly he felt himself being drawn upwards. As Stefan says,
35:57
Speaker 1: I was lying in the alfalfa field and I saw
36:00
Speaker 1: this ball of fire which suddenly came to a stop
36:02
Speaker 1: with a strange noise, directly above me. My whole body
36:07
Speaker 1: was sucked up, as if by a vacuum cleaner. I
36:10
Speaker 1: was sucked up by it. After that, I didn't remember
36:13
Speaker 1: much more. It all goes black. I felt a violent
36:17
Speaker 1: gust of wind and roared. I don't know how long
36:20
Speaker 1: it lasted, but it went very quickly. So meanwhile, Stefan's
36:26
Speaker 1: family was becoming very concerned. Midnight had arrived and Steffan
36:31
Speaker 1: still had not returned from his outing, so they went
36:35
Speaker 1: out looking for him, and they became even more concerned
36:38
Speaker 1: when they found his car with the doors open, but
36:41
Speaker 1: there was no sign of Steffan. So they returned home
36:46
Speaker 1: and was now around a half hour after midnight, and
36:49
Speaker 1: to their shocks, Steffan was there at the house, and
36:54
Speaker 1: after being pulled up into this craft, he had only
36:57
Speaker 1: partial recall of what happened, but he does remember some
37:01
Speaker 1: of it. He said, it was very dark inside, very warm.
37:05
Speaker 1: You could hear this strange sort of tut tut tut noise.
37:08
Speaker 1: He felt movement, but his next memory was being let go.
37:13
Speaker 1: As Stefan says, finally, I was dropped from the height
37:16
Speaker 1: of two meters into a field six kilometers away. So yeah,
37:22
Speaker 1: he was dropped off in a different location. He walked
37:25
Speaker 1: home from there, and his eldest son, Thiery, says, and
37:30
Speaker 1: I quote, he lay dazed on his bed and did
37:33
Speaker 1: not recognize anyone. He mumbled a number of incoherent sentences
37:38
Speaker 1: and kept repeating those little guys are fat and ugly
37:42
Speaker 1: and they have spots. His daughter Christine verifies this. She's
37:47
Speaker 1: seventeen years old. And as she says, and again I quote,
37:51
Speaker 1: Papa was sitting on the bed with wild and vacant eyes.
37:54
Speaker 1: He was murmuring, you will never believe me. He kept
37:58
Speaker 1: talking about quote, the little with pointed ears. In short,
38:03
Speaker 1: he frightened us terribly, and as Steffan's wife says, I
38:08
Speaker 1: have never seen him like this. And in fact, Steffan
38:12
Speaker 1: was so disoriented, so traumatized, he didn't know his own name.
38:17
Speaker 1: He started saying he was a Spaniard with a completely
38:20
Speaker 1: different name, Ivan Azard. And suddenly at two am he
38:26
Speaker 1: jumps up and in this weird trance. He marches outside
38:31
Speaker 1: and starts shouting, they are up there and I am
38:34
Speaker 1: going to them. And in fact, looking outside they could
38:38
Speaker 1: see this object still hovering over the summer Court plateau.
38:42
Speaker 1: They were bewildered, concerned, afraid. They dragged him back inside,
38:46
Speaker 1: called an ambulance and had him taken to the local hospital.
38:52
Speaker 1: Now going outside with when the ambulance arrived, Steffan's wife
38:57
Speaker 1: and his eldest son, Thiery, and the driver of the ambulance,
39:01
Speaker 1: Francis ween All could still see this yellow orange ball
39:06
Speaker 1: hanging above the summer Court plateau, and later it was
39:10
Speaker 1: discovered that other people in the area had also seen
39:13
Speaker 1: this strange light. They went up there his family and
39:19
Speaker 1: they did find a circular landing trace. Now at the hospital,
39:24
Speaker 1: Stefan was diagnosed with some eye trouble, light sensitivity, of
39:30
Speaker 1: course memory loss. They found bruises on his body. He
39:34
Speaker 1: wandered around in a daze for quite some time, kept
39:37
Speaker 1: saying that he had spoken to quote fat ugly little
39:41
Speaker 1: men with pointed ears. They kept him in the hospital
39:44
Speaker 1: for about ten days, thankfully making a full recovery, at
39:49
Speaker 1: least physically. Emotionally, he remained traumatized and as he says,
39:53
Speaker 1: he will quote never again set foot on that damned mountain.
39:59
Speaker 1: That's the kind of case that is truly undeniable. Yes,
40:02
Speaker 1: it is a single witness case, but you have his
40:04
Speaker 1: whole family seeing UFOs, his whole family, a large family,
40:10
Speaker 1: confirming what he went through in terms of the trauma,
40:15
Speaker 1: physiological evidence, landing trace evidence. Clearly something quite unusual happened.
40:22
Speaker 1: And we even have the ambulance driver seeing the UFO.
40:27
Speaker 1: Really amazing case. It's a shame he can't remember more
40:30
Speaker 1: of what happened to him, but on the other hand,
40:33
Speaker 1: he did remember it consciously without the eight of hypnosis,
40:36
Speaker 1: and I think that's significant. And now we move to
40:40
Speaker 1: another case which is equally compelling, if not more so,
40:44
Speaker 1: because this does involve two witnesses who were both taken
40:49
Speaker 1: on board at the same time. I call this one
40:52
Speaker 1: contact in Goodland. This occurred on November seventh, nineteen eighty nine,
40:57
Speaker 1: in Goodland, Kansas. This case was very thoroughly researched. Involves
41:03
Speaker 1: two women who were driving along the highway late at night,
41:06
Speaker 1: had missing time, finally elected to go under hypnosis and
41:12
Speaker 1: independently recalled many details that pretty much matched perfectly. So
41:18
Speaker 1: it's a really important case that shows that hypnosis does
41:23
Speaker 1: work in recalling events, because it's almost impossible for people
41:29
Speaker 1: to recall the same darn details matching up almost perfectly. Now,
41:34
Speaker 1: this case from John Carpenter is amazing. This was published
41:38
Speaker 1: in the nineteen ninety one Volume three issue of the
41:41
Speaker 1: Journal of UFO Studies, and it's my favorite case in
41:45
Speaker 1: this compilation. This is an amazing double witness case. The
41:49
Speaker 1: witnesses are anonymous, known only as Susan and Jennifer. At
41:54
Speaker 1: the time of this experience, Susan was a forty two
41:57
Speaker 1: year old business woman married with two children seventeen and
42:01
Speaker 1: twenty one. She had no interest or prior knowledge in UFOs,
42:07
Speaker 1: and her friend, Jennifer, was a forty nine year old
42:09
Speaker 1: freelance photographer. She had two adult step children, and, like Susan,
42:15
Speaker 1: had never really given much thought to UFOs. They had
42:19
Speaker 1: attended a convention in Aspen, Colorado, and were driving from
42:24
Speaker 1: Aspen to their homes in Saint Louis, Missouri. Was around
42:28
Speaker 1: eleven forty PM again on November seven, nineteen eighty nine,
42:33
Speaker 1: as they left a gas station in Flagler, Colorado, and
42:37
Speaker 1: were heading east on Interstate seventy towards Goodland, Kansas, about
42:42
Speaker 1: seventy two miles away, where they planned to stop for
42:45
Speaker 1: the night at a motel. But almost immediately after getting
42:49
Speaker 1: on Interstate seventy, they both simultaneously noticed a bright object
42:55
Speaker 1: ahead of them on the highway to the side, and
42:58
Speaker 1: it was flashing color lights, and it stayed off in
43:02
Speaker 1: the distance but seemed to pace their car for the
43:05
Speaker 1: next hour. In fact, they pulled off the road several
43:09
Speaker 1: times to look at it because of its unusual appearance.
43:12
Speaker 1: But suddenly, at twelve forty pm, after they had just
43:15
Speaker 1: pulled over and got back on the road again, this
43:19
Speaker 1: light zoomed towards them, stopping at a distance of only
43:22
Speaker 1: about one hundred feet. Hovering over this field to the right,
43:26
Speaker 1: it sent on a cone of colored light pastel, pinks, blues, lavender.
43:32
Speaker 1: They also noticed weird quote black waves kind of like
43:35
Speaker 1: heat waves, which were visible on the lower part of
43:38
Speaker 1: the windshield. Both were very excited a little scared by
43:43
Speaker 1: the sight of this strange object so close. At this
43:46
Speaker 1: point they were just outside of Goodland, Kansas. But the
43:49
Speaker 1: next thing they knew, their mood had changed from being
43:53
Speaker 1: excited to exhausted, and irritated. They immediately stopped at a
43:59
Speaker 1: rest stop were surprised to find that the bathrooms were closed,
44:03
Speaker 1: despite they could still see the UFO now off some distance,
44:08
Speaker 1: so they continued driving. The UFO disappeared. They arrived at
44:12
Speaker 1: a motel in Goodland, but it was now two thirty
44:16
Speaker 1: a m. Was not at first obvious to them that
44:19
Speaker 1: they were missing about an hour of time. Both felt
44:22
Speaker 1: physically ill. Jennifer was a little bit flushed, and Susan,
44:27
Speaker 1: she says, she felt like quote death warmed over. So
44:31
Speaker 1: it was the next morning that they went over this
44:33
Speaker 1: and realized that something very odd had occurred because although
44:40
Speaker 1: three hours had elapsed during this trip, the gas gage
44:44
Speaker 1: on their car showed that only an hour's worth of
44:47
Speaker 1: gas had been used, and this is only a seventy
44:50
Speaker 1: two mile trip which took three hours, even though their
44:54
Speaker 1: speed was about seventy five miles per hour. They also
44:58
Speaker 1: noticed a weird black streak I'm the sun visor that
45:02
Speaker 1: hadn't been there before. Following this experience, Jennifer began suffering
45:07
Speaker 1: from some unexplained nosebleeds. Both felt quite anxious and irritable.
45:13
Speaker 1: They had insomnia. So it was about two weeks later,
45:18
Speaker 1: after researching their experience and looking into the subject of UFOs,
45:23
Speaker 1: that they decided that they were going to go under hypnosis. Now,
45:28
Speaker 1: these sessions were done separately, and what they recalled is
45:32
Speaker 1: very interesting because Jennifer recalled seeing the UFO as she
45:36
Speaker 1: had seen it consciously. But then she recalled being pulled
45:40
Speaker 1: out of the car, and she says, I'm behind it
45:44
Speaker 1: looking down at an angle. Very quickly, she watched this
45:48
Speaker 1: their car shrink down to a tiny size, and looking up,
45:52
Speaker 1: she saw that she was approaching this craft. It had
45:55
Speaker 1: rounded portholes, and suddenly she found herself inside this rounded
45:59
Speaker 1: room illuminated with an orange light. And as Jennifer says,
46:04
Speaker 1: there's no corners in this room. It's round, kind of
46:07
Speaker 1: like a frisbee. The various windows are dark, but when
46:11
Speaker 1: you look out of them, you can see bright lights.
46:14
Speaker 1: You can see all the stars. The heavens are just
46:17
Speaker 1: full of them. I'm looking out the windows and it's
46:19
Speaker 1: the earth were high. Also, she noticed several figures surrounding her,
46:26
Speaker 1: five and a half foot tall beings with grayish skin,
46:31
Speaker 1: large hairless heads, pointy chins, huge slanted, dark eyes, so
46:37
Speaker 1: they had no real nose. Or mouth. Yeah, very pale skin.
46:42
Speaker 1: It did not appear to be dressed. She couldn't tell
46:44
Speaker 1: for sure. She did notice that they had four long fingers,
46:49
Speaker 1: and some she said, had what looked like suction cups
46:52
Speaker 1: on their fingers. She said that they started communicating with
46:56
Speaker 1: her telepathically, took her to another larger placed her on
47:01
Speaker 1: this floating table. She saw this panel of what looked
47:05
Speaker 1: like colored lights. She noticed that the room had a
47:07
Speaker 1: central column in it. So this is what Jennifer initially recalled,
47:13
Speaker 1: and meanwhile Susan, going under hypnosis, recalled essentially the same thing.
47:18
Speaker 1: She saw the UFO suddenly approach their car, get brighter,
47:23
Speaker 1: and the next thing she knows, she's being pulled from
47:25
Speaker 1: the car, and like Jennifer, she's watching it get smaller
47:29
Speaker 1: and smaller, belower, and as she says, as she's being
47:33
Speaker 1: pulled up, it's real light. We don't weigh much. It's
47:37
Speaker 1: more like floating. And like Jennifer, she found herself in
47:41
Speaker 1: a room which, as Susan says, is quote like a circle.
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Speaker 1: Susan said she saw windows around the sides, she could
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Speaker 1: see stars outside, and like Jennifer, she saw the earth
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Speaker 1: itself as Susan says, looking out one of the windows,
47:59
Speaker 1: a blue globe like pictures you might see of planets,
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Speaker 1: but it's not a picture, it's real pretty. She was
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Speaker 1: taken to a larger room. She saw a floating table
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Speaker 1: near the center. In the middle of this room was
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Speaker 1: a large column. She saw it look like cabinets in
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Speaker 1: the wall. She saw it look like hieroglyphic symbols on
48:19
Speaker 1: the wall. And of course, she saw these beings and
48:22
Speaker 1: described them just like Jennifer had described them. As Susan says,
48:27
Speaker 1: they're more slender. They have really dark, huge eyes, slanted eyes.
48:32
Speaker 1: The eyes are enormous and take over the face. Now,
48:39
Speaker 1: Jennifer had said that these beings moved around by gliding,
48:42
Speaker 1: and Susan said the same thing. They sort of glided
48:45
Speaker 1: around rather than walking. She didn't notice that one of
48:48
Speaker 1: the beings was quite a bit taller than the others.
48:52
Speaker 1: And now Jennifer said that the beings seemed very friendly
48:56
Speaker 1: and they wanted to examine her. And as Jennifer says,
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Speaker 1: they were reassuring us we should not be afraid. They're
49:03
Speaker 1: not going to hurt us. They came over and patted
49:06
Speaker 1: my hand. That made me feel comfortable. They're not going
49:09
Speaker 1: to hurt us. And Susan said the same thing. And
49:13
Speaker 1: Susan says, they seem to be communicating that they mean
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Speaker 1: us no harm. They try to calm me. Somebody keeps
49:21
Speaker 1: rubbing my head with those hands. They passed this hand
49:24
Speaker 1: over Jennifer's forehead, which seems either to calm her or
49:28
Speaker 1: sedate her. She's lying on a narrow table covered with
49:32
Speaker 1: some type of white material. Now it looked to Susan
49:36
Speaker 1: like Jennifer was undergoing some type of procedure. They seemed
49:40
Speaker 1: to show a special interest in Jennifer's hands. Susan also
49:45
Speaker 1: saw that they were placing something inside of Jennifer's nose,
49:49
Speaker 1: and this is exactly what Susan recalled as well. Now
49:53
Speaker 1: Susan was communicating with them to a certain extent, and
49:57
Speaker 1: they were explaining what they were doing. Susan says, they're
50:01
Speaker 1: working for the advancement of something about genetic coating. It
50:06
Speaker 1: is an agreement we had before our birth, and it
50:09
Speaker 1: is for the advancement of the species and the advancement
50:13
Speaker 1: of planet Earth. Jennifer also recalls, like Susan, that the
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Speaker 1: beings were examining her hands. She watched a panel of
50:21
Speaker 1: lights light up. She wasn't able to see Susan, which
50:24
Speaker 1: is also what Susan recalled. She could see Jennifer, but
50:27
Speaker 1: Jennifer couldn't see her, And as Jennifer says, I don't
50:32
Speaker 1: remember anything else, just that I was hooked up for
50:35
Speaker 1: a span of time. I think I asked, what are
50:38
Speaker 1: you going to do to me? They said they needed
50:41
Speaker 1: to have more information about what my chemistry is all about.
50:45
Speaker 1: Something was being energized through my system when they were
50:49
Speaker 1: taking all these tests, taking information from me from my
50:53
Speaker 1: body chemistry. Now, Susan recalls being given a thick liquid
50:58
Speaker 1: to drink, and the next thing both women recall is
51:02
Speaker 1: being floated back down to their car, and as Jennifer says,
51:08
Speaker 1: it's as if we're just kind of descending. We're floating
51:11
Speaker 1: through the sky then gently coming down to earth. They
51:14
Speaker 1: led us out to the right of the car. Jennifer
51:18
Speaker 1: remembers thinking to herself, I was somewhere I've never been before,
51:22
Speaker 1: nor have I ever seen anything like this before. And
51:26
Speaker 1: as Susan says, one of the aliens does something with
51:29
Speaker 1: his hands, a movement with his hands, and we seem
51:33
Speaker 1: to be on our way back to the car. We
51:35
Speaker 1: don't fall, we come down faster. We're back into the car.
51:40
Speaker 1: They are seeing that we get back into the car.
51:44
Speaker 1: They wave their hands over our foreheads, and we don't remember.
51:48
Speaker 1: So at this point, both women say that their memories
51:51
Speaker 1: left them after undergoing hypnosis. Both Susan and Jennifer were
51:56
Speaker 1: shocked by their detailed recall, but both did feel an
52:00
Speaker 1: enormous sense of relief. Neither felt that the experience was bad.
52:04
Speaker 1: It was overall a positive experience for them. As Susan says,
52:09
Speaker 1: I can honestly say what happened to me was a
52:12
Speaker 1: positive experience, And I can say that because I have
52:15
Speaker 1: grown from it. I think I am a much better
52:18
Speaker 1: person for having had my little world shattered and for
52:22
Speaker 1: opening up to new possibilities of what this life might
52:26
Speaker 1: be all about. How interesting is that? I wonder how
52:30
Speaker 1: many people have this kind of experience and never seek help,
52:33
Speaker 1: never go under hypnosis. But they did, and they both
52:37
Speaker 1: recalled being pulled on board, seeing the car a tiny
52:41
Speaker 1: little dot below them, being placed on tables physically examined.
52:45
Speaker 1: Both remember looking out the window and seeing the earth.
52:48
Speaker 1: Both remember seeing pretty much the same kinds of ets
52:52
Speaker 1: everything from the way they looked, the way they were dressed,
52:55
Speaker 1: the way they moved, all of it matches up. It's
52:58
Speaker 1: a really compelling case. And now we move to another
53:03
Speaker 1: one which is super interesting. Like many on board experiences,
53:08
Speaker 1: this is a single witness case. I call this one
53:12
Speaker 1: contact in Debressen. This occurred in December of nineteen ninety
53:16
Speaker 1: in Depressant, Hungary, and it's a really interesting case because
53:23
Speaker 1: the area where it occurred, it's the same location for
53:27
Speaker 1: a number of other UFO incidents which I've actually covered
53:31
Speaker 1: on previous episodes. But this one is an onboard encounter
53:35
Speaker 1: involving a very unusual humanoid. Well, he doesn't remember a
53:40
Speaker 1: lot of what happened. It's certainly an important case. This
53:44
Speaker 1: final case comes from respected Hungarian researcher Gabor Tarkali and
53:50
Speaker 1: it was published in the July August nineteen ninety three
53:52
Speaker 1: issue of the Q Form Bulletin. The main witness is
53:58
Speaker 1: a former geography teacher now an artist by the name
54:01
Speaker 1: of Gabor Molnar, and was around ten thirty PM as
54:06
Speaker 1: Gabor was driving along Highway thirty five after visiting his
54:11
Speaker 1: child in the hospital at Debrason. He was heading home.
54:15
Speaker 1: He had just driven past the town of Josa when
54:19
Speaker 1: something very strange happened. And I'll just let Gabor describe
54:23
Speaker 1: it in his own words, as he says, my car stopped,
54:27
Speaker 1: I did not know why, and then the engine stopped. Also,
54:31
Speaker 1: I remember a little green being stood facing me at
54:35
Speaker 1: the roadside. His eyes were large out of proportion. What
54:39
Speaker 1: happened after that, I do not know. Only some fragments
54:43
Speaker 1: of memory remained in my mind. I have dim recollections
54:47
Speaker 1: of a room with several windows, and I lay on something.
54:51
Speaker 1: I suppose I was examined. I remember green beings bent
54:56
Speaker 1: over me who looked at me with large eyes that
54:58
Speaker 1: had no pupils. I do not know what they did
55:02
Speaker 1: with me, or how much time I spent with them.
55:05
Speaker 1: When I recovered, I was sitting in my car. The
55:08
Speaker 1: car was in the middle of the road at an angle,
55:10
Speaker 1: facing Debresson in the opposite direction. I do not know
55:15
Speaker 1: the exact time I started my car and I came home.
55:20
Speaker 1: So following this encounter, Gabor said he started to suffer
55:24
Speaker 1: from headaches. He also noted something interesting. His style of
55:28
Speaker 1: painting changed dramatically. Prior to this encounter, he was painting
55:33
Speaker 1: mostly portraits, and landscapes. But afterwards he began producing paintings
55:39
Speaker 1: of strange foreign landscapes which seemed to be on other planets.
55:44
Speaker 1: And while painting, this is when he would have vivid
55:47
Speaker 1: flashbacks of seeing these little green entities and being on
55:51
Speaker 1: the ship and being examined. So at first he told
55:55
Speaker 1: nobody about his encounter except his wife, who was shocked
55:59
Speaker 1: and scope to cole. But one day he did tell
56:03
Speaker 1: his friend Peter Tarksi, who it turns out as a
56:06
Speaker 1: reporter in art officionado who does have a strong interest
56:11
Speaker 1: in UFOs, and Gabar told him Peter, a very strange
56:16
Speaker 1: thing happened to me. Please do not laugh if I
56:19
Speaker 1: tell you. Thankfully Peter did not laugh. Gabar shared his story.
56:24
Speaker 1: Peter absolutely believed him, and this is what led to
56:27
Speaker 1: the case being officially investigated. And as Peter says, Gabor
56:33
Speaker 1: Molnar has had a good reputation, but his new paintings
56:37
Speaker 1: greatly surprised his artistic friends too. No Gabor himself says
56:42
Speaker 1: that he never believed in UFOs before his encounter, but
56:45
Speaker 1: of course now he does. As Goebor says, now I
56:49
Speaker 1: believe in UFOs without any doubt. And I am willing
56:53
Speaker 1: to be taken again. I will never forget that night.
56:57
Speaker 1: There you go, another case of a person being taken
57:00
Speaker 1: on board. I like this case because the main investigator,
57:05
Speaker 1: Gabor Tarcali, is a very thorough researcher. It appears to
57:09
Speaker 1: be an absolute legitimate case. It fits the pattern we
57:13
Speaker 1: see in so many other cases. Said it before, I
57:18
Speaker 1: think these kinds of events are far more common than
57:22
Speaker 1: most people realize. As I've said in previous episodes, there
57:28
Speaker 1: was a study done in nineteen ninety one by the
57:30
Speaker 1: Roper organization which does polling, and they did a whole
57:35
Speaker 1: survey in this and found that as many as one
57:37
Speaker 1: in fifty people show the markers of being a UFO
57:40
Speaker 1: contact TEA problem is most people don't talk about it.
57:45
Speaker 1: So this is one of the reasons I do this
57:49
Speaker 1: research and these episodes, is because there's a lot of
57:53
Speaker 1: you guys out there who've had this experience. I know
57:55
Speaker 1: a lot of you watching have had these experiences. So
57:59
Speaker 1: this is a subject that deserves truth and transparency, deserves
58:04
Speaker 1: to be far better known than it is, so you know,
58:09
Speaker 1: it's an important subject. I think if everyone knew that
58:12
Speaker 1: we are not alone in this universe. It would change
58:16
Speaker 1: the way people think and act, and we might come
58:19
Speaker 1: together instead of having all these wars and division and
58:23
Speaker 1: all the problems that are besetting humanity at this current time.
58:27
Speaker 1: At any rate, it's also just darn interesting. So that's
58:31
Speaker 1: it for today. Thank you guys for watching. I've loved
58:34
Speaker 1: these onboard encounters. They're so interesting. I think these cases
58:39
Speaker 1: do show it can be quite difficult, quite traumatic, and
58:43
Speaker 1: scary for people to undergo. But I also find it
58:46
Speaker 1: interesting that a good number of these witnesses said that,
58:51
Speaker 1: you know, this experience was benevolent. Certainly not all the
58:55
Speaker 1: man from France, he clearly did not like this experience.
59:00
Speaker 1: With the Goodland, Kansas case the Hungary case both said
59:04
Speaker 1: that they would welcome further contact, so certainly an interesting detail.
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Speaker 1: Once again, thank you, I truly appreciate you guys watching.
59:14
Speaker 1: Until next time, keep your eyes in the skies, keep
59:18
Speaker 1: searching for the truth it's out there, Keep asking those
59:21
Speaker 1: hard questions. The most important of all, keep having fun.
59:26
Speaker 1: I think that's why we're here to learn and have fun.
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Speaker 1: So I will see you next Friday. Bye for now,