Latest / Pastor John Piper's answers / Did We Sin Our Marriage Away?
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- 0:04Speaker 1: Hard marriages, divorce and domestic abuse, a trio of very
- 0:08Speaker 1: tough topics that come up on the podcast from time
- 0:10Speaker 1: to time, as you can see in the Empty Book,
- 0:11Speaker 1: and we have a new entry here when it comes
- 0:14Speaker 1: to hard marriages. In this email from an anonymous wife,
- 0:18Speaker 1: hy Pastor John, my husband and I are currently separated
- 0:20Speaker 1: and my heart feels utterly broken. We've been married for
- 0:23Speaker 1: almost ten years, but our relationship has been difficult, marked
- 0:26Speaker 1: by his alcoholism, which he is now sober from, and
- 0:29Speaker 1: my long battle with chronic illness, which I've been healed from.
- 0:33Speaker 1: When we first got married, we were not living according
- 0:35Speaker 1: to God's will. We lived like the world, and our
- 0:38Speaker 1: church didn't teach on sin or repentance at all. Thankfully,
- 0:42Speaker 1: things have changed for us spiritually, but we've never learned
- 0:44Speaker 1: how to resolve conflict or heal from the pain and
- 0:46Speaker 1: hurt we've caused each other over the years. We fight
- 0:49Speaker 1: consistently in unhealthy ways, and I've come to realize that
- 0:52Speaker 1: I've had a victim mentality and have contributed to the
- 0:55Speaker 1: cycle of hurt. I've failed to respect my husband and
- 0:58Speaker 1: have used my words to tear him down, and defense
- 1:00Speaker 1: of my own pain, I am deeply ashamed of this
- 1:03Speaker 1: and grieve over it. We both acknowledge our past mistakes,
- 1:06Speaker 1: but now my husband believes that maybe we've sent our
- 1:09Speaker 1: way into this marriage, and that it may not have
- 1:12Speaker 1: been God's will for us to be together in the
- 1:14Speaker 1: first place. I, however, believe that marriage is for life,
- 1:17Speaker 1: and I trust that God can restore and redeem what's
- 1:19Speaker 1: been broken. I don't view our marriage as a mistake anymore,
- 1:22Speaker 1: even though I once did. I don't want to lose
- 1:24Speaker 1: my husband. Is there any truth to what he's saying?
- 1:27Speaker 1: Or does God's union of husband and wife hold particularly
- 1:30Speaker 1: for Christians? Despite our struggles, I don't believe we can
- 1:34Speaker 1: send our way out of marriage. We love each other deeply,
- 1:37Speaker 1: but the pain has been so great that my husband
- 1:39Speaker 1: now wants to leave. Please help.
- 1:44Speaker 2: First, let me say something about the husband's idea that
- 1:49Speaker 2: it may not have been God's will for them to marry.
- 1:53Speaker 2: That's the wrong question to ask. The question is is
- 1:59Speaker 2: this marriage with this woman and this man God's will
- 2:05Speaker 2: for you?
- 2:06Speaker 1: Now?
- 2:07Speaker 2: That's the question, and the answer to that question biblically
- 2:12Speaker 2: is yes, absolutely yes, this marriage is God's will for you.
- 2:21Speaker 2: There is no other right woman for this man to
- 2:24Speaker 2: be with, and there is no other right man for
- 2:28Speaker 2: this woman to be with, Because the rightness of being
- 2:32Speaker 2: with a woman or a man in marriage is established
- 2:38Speaker 2: not by the quality of the person, but by the
- 2:41Speaker 2: nature of the covenant. When a man and a woman
- 2:46Speaker 2: leave mother and father and express by covenantal vows that
- 2:51Speaker 2: they will be husband and wife to each other. In
- 2:55Speaker 2: that act, God creates a marriage in which those two
- 3:03Speaker 2: people are the right people to be married, even if
- 3:08Speaker 2: they should not have gotten married. That the meaning of
- 3:12Speaker 2: the covenant. It doesn't depend on the quality of the
- 3:17Speaker 2: person in the covenant. That's why vows include words like
- 3:22Speaker 2: for better or for worse. For worse, that's the first
- 3:30Speaker 2: thing to settle, especially for this husband. God created the
- 3:35Speaker 2: marriage covenant, and the covenant defines the rightful husband and wife.
- 3:43Speaker 2: This is emphasized by Jesus with the strongest words of
- 3:47Speaker 2: lifelong permanence of the covenant. For example, Luke sixteen eighteen.
- 3:53Speaker 2: Everyone who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery,
- 3:59Speaker 2: and he who marries a woman divorced from her husband
- 4:03Speaker 2: commits adultery. Strong words or Mark ten to seven. A
- 4:09Speaker 2: man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast
- 4:12Speaker 2: to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.
- 4:16Speaker 2: So they are no longer too, but one flesh. What
- 4:20Speaker 2: therefore God has joined together. What God has joined together,
- 4:26Speaker 2: not just humans, God has joined together. Let not man separate.
- 4:31Speaker 2: Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery against her.
- 4:36Speaker 2: And if she divorces her husband and marries another, she
- 4:39Speaker 2: commits adultery. In other words, in every marriage, this woman,
- 4:46Speaker 2: this man in this marriage is the rightful covenant partner.
- 4:52Speaker 2: This man in this marriage, not just the woman, not
- 4:55Speaker 2: just the man, is the rightful covenant partner. Separation happen.
- 5:01Speaker 2: But the question, then, in a separation like theirs, is
- 5:06Speaker 2: what should you do? And Paul addresses that question very
- 5:10Speaker 2: directly in one Corinthians seventeen. To the married, I give
- 5:14Speaker 2: the charge, not I, but the Lord. The wife should
- 5:18Speaker 2: not separate from her husband, but if she does, she
- 5:25Speaker 2: should remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband.
- 5:31Speaker 2: And the husband should not divorce his wife. In other words,
- 5:37Speaker 2: the Biblical answer to siparation is reconciliation. It won't be easy,
- 5:45Speaker 2: lifelong marriage has never been easy. Good grief, what lies
- 5:52Speaker 2: in front of you? In tackling this reconciliation and another
- 5:57Speaker 2: thirty or forty years together isn't going to be easy.
- 6:03Speaker 2: It's just going to be glorious as God gives grice.
- 6:07Speaker 2: And I hope you get all the way to the end.
- 6:10Speaker 2: I hope, I hope you get all the help that
- 6:13Speaker 2: you need from good Christian friends in a healthy church,
- 6:17Speaker 2: and perhaps a good biblical counselor along the way. But
- 6:23Speaker 2: let me say just a couple of things to this husband.
- 6:28Speaker 2: You do carry, and I hope, I hope this wife
- 6:31Speaker 2: will share it with him and he'll be willing to
- 6:33Speaker 2: listen and and just hear me as your I'm on
- 6:37Speaker 2: your side. I want, I want this thing to work
- 6:40Speaker 2: for your good and God's glory. You, you do carry
- 6:45Speaker 2: the greater burden, because that's what headship means. God holds
- 6:51Speaker 2: you me uniquely accountable, not for your wife's sins, but
- 6:59Speaker 2: for steps toward healing and forgiveness and reconciliation. This is
- 7:05Speaker 2: what makes headship so difficult. Men bear the unique and
- 7:11Speaker 2: heavy responsibility for going ahead. That's what it means. You
- 7:17Speaker 2: go ahead and take initiative to fix what's broken. Doesn't
- 7:25Speaker 2: matter whose fault it is, it's your headship that is
- 7:29Speaker 2: being called upon now in its glorious calling. You may
- 7:34Speaker 2: not succeed, you may not, but you will die trying right.
- 7:40Speaker 2: You will die trying to do the right thing for
- 7:44Speaker 2: your wife and yourself and your God. And a man's
- 7:48Speaker 2: courage and perseverance and wisdom is going to be shown
- 7:52Speaker 2: in the ruggedness with which he refuses to give up.
- 7:57Speaker 2: Come on, you're going to refuse to give up your life.
- 8:00Speaker 2: You're a man, You're the head. You take responsibility, and
- 8:04Speaker 2: you do everything in your power until you're dead to
- 8:08Speaker 2: make this work. That's what it means to be a
- 8:11Speaker 2: man and a husband. The model for your headship in
- 8:18Speaker 2: marriages Jesus and his relationship to the Church. And oh
- 8:23Speaker 2: what a mess his bride is. We are husbands. Love
- 8:30Speaker 2: your wives as Christ loved the church that blows you away,
- 8:36Speaker 2: and gave himself up for her, that he might sanctify her,
- 8:41Speaker 2: having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word,
- 8:44Speaker 2: so that he might present the Church to himself in splendor,
- 8:48Speaker 2: without spot or wrinkle, or any such thing, that she
- 8:51Speaker 2: might be holy and without blemish. In the same way
- 8:55Speaker 2: husbands love their wives. They love their wives like their
- 8:58Speaker 2: own bodies if they're like Christ. He who loves his
- 9:03Speaker 2: wife loves himself. For no one ever hated his own flesh,
- 9:05Speaker 2: but nourishes and cherishes it, as Christ does the Church,
- 9:11Speaker 2: because remembers his body. Therefore, a man shall leave his
- 9:14Speaker 2: father and mother and hold fast to his wife, and
- 9:16Speaker 2: the two shall become miracle of miracles, one flesh that
- 9:22Speaker 2: still exists. Brother, this mystery is profound, Paul says, and
- 9:31Speaker 2: I'm saying it refers to Christ and the Church. This
- 9:35Speaker 2: is the great and high calling of being a husband
- 9:38Speaker 2: in marriage. You are called to love and sacrifice, and serve,
- 9:41Speaker 2: and save and sanctify. Not because you are Christ, you're not,
- 9:48Speaker 2: but because you represent Christ in this drama, and because
- 9:52Speaker 2: you are empowered by Christ. It is a glorious, if
- 9:57Speaker 2: painful calling. And I would simply encourage you. Be the
- 10:02Speaker 2: one who takes the initiative to call attention to the
- 10:05Speaker 2: miracle working power of God. For you and your wife,
- 10:09Speaker 2: be the one who sees the miracle. What is impossible
- 10:14Speaker 2: with man is possible with God, Jesus, said Luke eighteen seventeen.
- 10:19Speaker 2: He causes a virgin to give birth. He causes the
- 10:22Speaker 2: postman apausal woman to conceive. He causes the lame to
- 10:26Speaker 2: walk in, the blind to see, and the deaf to hear,
- 10:28Speaker 2: and the lepers to be cleansed, and water to turn
- 10:32Speaker 2: into wine, and wind and waves to stop and cease
- 10:35Speaker 2: at his command. He raises people from the dead, and
- 10:39Speaker 2: he reigns alive in heaven as our sovereign today over
- 10:43Speaker 2: your marriage. So obedient Christian husbands do not walk away
- 10:51Speaker 2: from their marriages, especially when a wife is deeply repentant
- 10:55Speaker 2: and eager to do the necessary work, imperfect as she is.
- 11:00Speaker 2: So in summary to both of you, your marriage is
- 11:04Speaker 2: God's will for you. This woman is God's wife for you.
- 11:10Speaker 2: This man is God's husband for you. Your marriage is for
- 11:14Speaker 2: a lifetime. Your calling as a husband is to love
- 11:18Speaker 2: her like Christ loves the Church, and she is to
- 11:22Speaker 2: respect and honor that leadership. Your first task as a
- 11:26Speaker 2: Christian head of your home is to trust in the sovereign,
- 11:31Speaker 2: miracle working power of God.
- 11:37Speaker 1: Hey man, thank you, Pastor John Hard. Marriage is divorce
- 11:40Speaker 1: and domestic abuse. So there's three tough topics that come
- 11:42Speaker 1: up a lot on this podcast, cover from a number
- 11:45Speaker 1: of different angles. As you'll quickly see in the digestive episodes,
- 11:48Speaker 1: in the APJ book, pages one ninety twenty one if
- 11:51Speaker 1: you want more on what we've covered in the past,
- 11:54Speaker 1: and thanks for joining us today. I have a question
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