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Abigail White - Onlyfans Star Turned Murderer · Wicked and Grim: A True Crime Podcast

• 0:07
  Speaker 1: Sometimes anger gets the best of us. We rant to friends,
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  Speaker 1: curse people's names, sometimes scream or cry, but eventually we
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  Speaker 1: find a way to manage that anger. There are some people, though,
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  Speaker 1: some who find themselves so overwhelmed that they begin to
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  Speaker 1: get violent instead. Today we discuss an OnlyFans model, someone
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  Speaker 1: who struggled to control their anger, and when things went
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  Speaker 1: too far, it cost her boyfriend his life. This is
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  Speaker 1: the case of Abigail White.
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  Speaker 2: My name's Ben, I'm Nicole, and you're listening to Wicked Ingram,
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  Speaker 2: a true crime podcast.
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  Speaker 2: I hit play, you mean record record, and you're just
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  Speaker 1: Well, you hit record without me being ready, so I
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  Speaker 1: assumed you had a way to start the episode.
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  Speaker 2: You seem like you said you were ready.
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  Speaker 2: Instead of judging about how you want to talk about
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  Speaker 2: ball hockey, I decided to just hit record.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. I played ball hockey yesterday and I'm super sore today,
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  Speaker 1: but it was fun and I do feel like I
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  Speaker 1: got hit by a train though.
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  Speaker 2: So well, because generally people like build up, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like they're stamina and stuff, and you are either just
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  Speaker 1: Wow, wait to call me out. I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's just scary. Also, you're getting older, you probably
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  Speaker 2: having a heart attack and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly why I'm trying to exercise. Okay, Okay, I'm looking
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  Speaker 1: out for my health in many ways. In this way too.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's great that you went and played.
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  Speaker 1: Me too, but I'm regretting it in some ways because
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure. Yeah, but hopefully you guys caught last episode.
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  Speaker 1: There was a bit of an issue with the server
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  Speaker 2: Came out Wednesday.
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  Speaker 1: Wednesday, right, Yeah, it was. It was over twenty four
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  Speaker 1: hours that it took for the bug to get worked out.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, which is unfortunate that that happened.
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  Speaker 1: It's still actually technically not worked out because we got
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  Speaker 1: They had to give us another log in in the
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  Speaker 1: meantime to use, but it's it's all messed up. We're
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  Speaker 1: getting it fixed. The episode is up and this one's
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  Speaker 1: getting up too. And we said in the last one,
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  Speaker 1: Happy Canada Day and July fourth, so happy everything to
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it, I get it.
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  Speaker 1: And we are We're wanting to just drop this again
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  Speaker 1: just to give you guys a heads up. Remember, we
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  Speaker 1: are having our two hundredth episode over at Trench Brewing
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  Speaker 1: if you are local to us. I'm actually drinking Trends.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Now, it's my favorite beer ever, So I will be
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  Speaker 1: drinking this on our two hundredth episode for sure.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like so excited but also so nervous for that.
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  Speaker 2: It'll be fun, It's going to be good.
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  Speaker 1: in person, we will be streaming over a Patreon And
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  Speaker 1: we also have to do another recording of an episode
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  Speaker 1: here because Nicole is leaving for a week. So next
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  Speaker 1: Tuesday's episode will.
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  Speaker 2: Be pre recorded, pre recorded here. That's organized day, except I.
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  Speaker 1: Haven't researched it yet, so that's my tomorrow is research
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  Speaker 1: it and record it. Well.
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  Speaker 2: I have like so much editing to do as well.
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  Speaker 2: We're both a little bit overworked at the moment.
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  Speaker 1: You could say life is overwhelming.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's gonna be hot as hell while I'm down
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  Speaker 2: in the Okanaugans.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, it looks like the weather is gonna be so
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  Speaker 1: nice as every week, so.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna melt in the best of ways.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just gonna have the AC cranked in this
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  Speaker 1: tiny home here while you're gone. Me and the Huskies
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  Speaker 1: are just gonna be living like our igloo life. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it'll beautiful.
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  Speaker 2: I'll mostly be at a lake, but they'll be one
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  Speaker 2: worried about because it's gonna be like thirty seven degrees.
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  Speaker 1: You'll survive.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like I might not.
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  Speaker 1: You'll survive. Anyways, we digress, let's get back, or let's
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  Speaker 1: get onto this case today. So we have the case
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  Speaker 1: of Abi Gail White. This one, when I came across
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  Speaker 1: it certainly intrigued me. Yeah, let's just dive right in,
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  Speaker 1: shall we. Let's do it.
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  Speaker 2: Sounds like a wild one, Oh it is, It certainly is.
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  Speaker 1: And for this one we are heading back to the UK,
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  Speaker 1: so United Kingdom, and more specifically the city of Bristol,
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  Speaker 1: which is located in the southwest of England. Now. Bristol
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  Speaker 1: is renowned for its rich maritime history. The city an
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  Speaker 1: eclectic mix of architecture, from the historic Clifton Suspension Bridge
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  Speaker 1: to the modern Harborside area which features some museums, galleries
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  Speaker 1: and restaurants. At least that's what Google tells me. Never
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  Speaker 1: been myself, but it sounds fantastic. Bristol is also home
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  Speaker 1: to a thriving street art community, which famously includes the
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  Speaker 1: work of the elusive street art artist Banksy.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so you know that.
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  Speaker 1: That shirt that you had a little girl in the balloon, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that was bank SE's that's cool. So yeah. Now, the
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  Speaker 1: surrounding area offers very beautiful countryside and picturesque village. But
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  Speaker 1: the history of Bristol is not what we're here to
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  Speaker 1: talk about today. Today's story starts with a young man
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  Speaker 1: by the name of Bradley Lewis. Now. Bradley was born
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  Speaker 1: in March of two thousand into a loving family and
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  Speaker 1: grew up in Bristol. Of course, you know, did you
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  Speaker 1: see that coming?
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  Speaker 2: I did? Actually, Okay, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Good for you. You're you're catching on.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was kind of listening to that part.
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  Speaker 1: Good job. And he grew up with his father and
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  Speaker 1: Steve and his mother Rachel, who were very generous folks
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  Speaker 1: and prioritized family, family above like everything else in life.
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  Speaker 1: So the very family oriented parents, which is that phenomenal.
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  Speaker 2: That's perfect.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Like many kids in England, Bradley was very passionate
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  Speaker 1: about football or soccer as it's known here in North America,
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  Speaker 1: and he played for his local junior club when attending
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  Speaker 1: school at Saint Stephen's Junior School. Now, after some years
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  Speaker 1: went by in school, was you know, finally finished he
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  Speaker 1: graduated and ready to take on the real world. Bradley
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  Speaker 1: went out to take on an apprenticeship as a floor
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  Speaker 1: layer in his teenage years, you know, getting that work.
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  Speaker 2: Experience, making some moula.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. So, he was a young man with a fantastic
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  Speaker 1: personality who is loved by his family and had large
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  Speaker 1: amounts of friends that reflected this fact as well. He
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  Speaker 1: was exactly the kind of person anyone would hope that
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  Speaker 1: their young son would grow up and become. At the
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  Speaker 1: age of fourteen, Bradley managed to catch the eye of
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  Speaker 1: a girl, a girl who is one year his senior.
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  Speaker 1: This girl name was Abigail, Abigail White. Now. Abigail quickly
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  Speaker 1: developed a crush on Bradley, and two years later the
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  Speaker 1: teens officially began to date. So it took a little
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  Speaker 1: bit a while for their lives to intermingle, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: they're kind of like flirting back and forth. I see you,
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  Speaker 1: you see me, all that sort of good stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Well, still pretty young too when they met.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, definitely is. But eventually those fireworks, you know, kind
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  Speaker 1: of developed into it more. And now they're dating veron item, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, as here describing him like, Okay, I feel like
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  Speaker 2: there's two ways for a podcast to start. It's either
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  Speaker 2: describing someone who has a terrible upbringing and is about
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  Speaker 2: to do terrible things, or describing someone who has an
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  Speaker 2: amazing upbring bringing, is an amazing person and is about
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  Speaker 2: to get fucked. Like it just seems like there's one
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  Speaker 2: or the other. And I just kind of had this
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  Speaker 2: realization here.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean it, yeah, you're not wrong, which takes
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  Speaker 1: me directly to Abigail's life growing up. How it was
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  Speaker 1: quite different from Bradley's.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, all right, okay, now.
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  Speaker 1: I mean we are laughing right now, but but her
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  Speaker 1: upbringing was no laughing with her. It was no joke.
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  Speaker 1: When she was only two years old, for example, her
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  Speaker 1: father began to violently beat her mother, and she grew
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  Speaker 1: up surrounded by abuse consistently.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. See that it's terrible. It is, really is.
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  Speaker 1: It's so heart wrenching to know that this is it's
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  Speaker 1: normal for so many people out there. It sucks, but
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  Speaker 1: that's unfortunately the world that we live in that people
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  Speaker 1: are object to that on a daily basis.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and I mean, like her dad could who knows
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  Speaker 2: what he went through, like it just comes, oh exactly,
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  Speaker 2: gets passed down for a lot of people.
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  Speaker 1: It is that domino effect.
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  Speaker 2: Terrible. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Now, by the time she was four, her parents had
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  Speaker 1: split up and her stepfather, her new stepfather, who filled
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  Speaker 1: in the fatherly role in the home, started to physically
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  Speaker 1: abuse Abigail as well. So not only was she subject
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  Speaker 1: to witnessing it or hearing it, or just being in
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  Speaker 1: the vicinity of it, she was also subject to being
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  Speaker 1: on the other end of it.
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  Speaker 2: Dang, and sorry this was by her stepdad, not her dad.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not too sure if the abuse came from her
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  Speaker 1: dad as well. As far as I know, he did
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  Speaker 1: not beat a two year old, thankfully, but the stepdad
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  Speaker 1: when he did come in when she was about four
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  Speaker 1: years old, yes, he did abuse her.
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  Speaker 2: Is that so much better? For is still like kind
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  Speaker 2: of a baby?
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  Speaker 3: Oh?
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  Speaker 1: I know, I know for sure, it's not better. You're
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  Speaker 1: right now. I'm not too sure the details. But Abigail
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  Speaker 1: also went on to talk about some other abuse that
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  Speaker 1: she endured when she was younger. She apparently went to
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  Speaker 1: some school counselors and stuff, and unfortunately there wasn't much
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  Speaker 1: done about it. But there was some sexual abuse, some
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  Speaker 1: physical abuse, and it just was not good for her
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  Speaker 1: growing up at all.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really hard.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. As a result, though, Abigail was eventually taken into
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  Speaker 1: foster care and later she lived with her in the
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  Speaker 1: safety of her grandparents. So I mean it was like,
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  Speaker 1: foster care is a step better. Not that foster care
• 10:33
  Speaker 1: is always great, but it's a step better for sure.
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  Speaker 1: And then eventually she did get with her grandparents, which
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  Speaker 1: was much better.
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  Speaker 2: So okay, now.
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  Speaker 1: Despite the safer environment that she was now in, her
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  Speaker 1: behavior at school kept her from making many friends or
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  Speaker 1: from doing very well as far as further reco education.
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  Speaker 1: By the age of thirteen, Abigail was prescribed antidepressants as
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  Speaker 1: she struggled with mental and emotional issues. Moving into her
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  Speaker 1: adult years, Abigail's life never really seemed to normalize. She
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  Speaker 1: never thought or sought or obtained a regular real job,
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  Speaker 1: as we kind of put it, you know, getting into
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  Speaker 1: the real world, right, that adulthood sort of thing. Instead,
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  Speaker 1: what she did do was she became kind of self employed,
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  Speaker 1: kind of like what we're doing with this podcast sort
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  Speaker 1: of situation. She was a creator, okay, except definitely a
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  Speaker 1: different genre of creative creating than we do. She was
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  Speaker 1: on the very lucrative platform known as OnlyFans.
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  Speaker 2: That people know of that we do just kidding. Wow,
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  Speaker 2: I don't do that.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, I was just a joke. Wow. Those would be
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  Speaker 1: some wicked and grim photos. I don't know if anyone
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  Speaker 1: would pay to see that. They'd probably pay us to stop.
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  Speaker 2: In our tiny homememe. It might be cool.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know about that anyways. That aside, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: sure if anyone out there is not familiar with OnlyFans
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  Speaker 1: in the platform, but in case you're not, Only Fans
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  Speaker 1: is a subscription based platform service that allows creators to
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  Speaker 1: share arious types of content with their paying and subscribing fans.
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  Speaker 1: So just like you go onto YouTube and you subscribe
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  Speaker 1: to a channel, for example, you can do the very
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  Speaker 1: same thing, except you pay for the subscription.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, would it be kind of similar to like Patreon?
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  Speaker 1: It's exactly the same as Patreon, except OnlyFans is specifically known.
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  Speaker 2: Like X rated kind of thing, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: For their more pornographic content and sex workers on the platform. Okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: which is the same type of content that Abigail was producing. Now,
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  Speaker 1: her user name on the platform was quote Fake Barbie Girl,
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  Speaker 1: and Abigail went by the online online alias as Mitzi Lewis.
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  Speaker 1: So Mitzi Lewis was this model with the account name
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  Speaker 1: Fake Barbie Girl. Now regardless of her user name or
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  Speaker 1: her alias, Abigail began posting on OnlyFans, and initially it
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  Speaker 1: was quite lucrative for her. She was doing pretty good
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  Speaker 1: and she made over fifty pounds in her first year,
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  Speaker 1: which is a quick I went to about sixty thousand
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  Speaker 1: US dollars.
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  Speaker 2: It's not bad eggs, that's.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's pretty good. Good for her. However, this success
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  Speaker 1: was short lived. Only fans has become an insanely competitive
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  Speaker 1: space with between one point five and two million active
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  Speaker 1: creators active creators.
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  Speaker 2: Whoa Okay, I had no idea. Yeah, ohly shit.
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  Speaker 1: It's hard to stand out and stay competitive and stay
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  Speaker 1: creative when you have that many people as your competitors.
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  Speaker 2: Right, so wow yeah, So when she started, it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: near like that popular kind of thing.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, not quite. And then over the years it
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  Speaker 1: grew and grew and grew and it is to where
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  Speaker 1: it is today, right so wow yeah. Anyways, her first
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  Speaker 1: year was successful, but with each year past, her relevancy
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  Speaker 1: on the platform waned and she lost around seventy five
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  Speaker 1: percent of her audience and revenue, dropping to about twelve
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  Speaker 1: thousand pounds annually, So seventy five percent decrease and an
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  Speaker 1: annual income is a lot. This wasn't enough to support
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  Speaker 1: her financially. But Abigail was lucky enough to have met
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  Speaker 1: and began dating Bradley, who is now very hard working
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  Speaker 1: on individual as a floor layer, right, and he helped
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  Speaker 1: support her with his income, which was very crucial because
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  Speaker 1: this time they now had four young children together to
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  Speaker 1: take care of.
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  Speaker 2: They did, they did their own children. Yes, soul is shit, Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Times going on? Yes, So they started dating when Bradley
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  Speaker 1: was sixteen and she was seventeen.
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  Speaker 2: Right now, Okay, wow, I don't know why. That just
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  Speaker 2: like blew me away.
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  Speaker 1: And so we're going over the years here and we're
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  Speaker 1: going to be taken six years later here where they
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  Speaker 1: now have four kids.
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  Speaker 2: That's a lot of kids.
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  Speaker 1: However, only three of which were Bradley's kids.
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  Speaker 2: Oh was he aware of that?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, he was aware of that.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, despite having their own family now, things are
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  Speaker 1: not very stable at home. Abigail was known to dabble
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  Speaker 1: in coke or cocaine, you know, the white snow, the powder,
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  Speaker 1: the nose fuel. I don't know, there's so many names
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  Speaker 1: for it. Anyways, and although she claimed to not be
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  Speaker 1: alcohol dependent, she would often take things too far, you know,
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  Speaker 1: getting far too drunken a little bit, far too frequently,
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  Speaker 1: and their relationship, to say the least, was not exactly
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  Speaker 1: the best. According to Abigail, they were in a very
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  Speaker 1: tough and controlling relationship. She also claimed that Bradley was
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  Speaker 1: very manipulative and unfaithful. On the other hand, though, she
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  Speaker 1: also admitted to sleeping with multiple other individuals while with Bradley,
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  Speaker 1: which is exactly how they have four kids, but one
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  Speaker 1: of them isn't his. It was obvious for anyone who
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: examined their relationship, even for a moment, things were quite toxic.
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  Speaker 1: Many friends even warned Bradley that Abigail was an absolute
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  Speaker 1: and complete psycho. His mom agreed, and she knew her
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  Speaker 1: so was not being treated right in their relationship and
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: thought that he deserved much better. Concerns grew, and they
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  Speaker 1: grew so strong that social services actually intervened, demanding that
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  Speaker 1: Abigail no longer be allowed to live with Bradley, but
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  Speaker 1: it unfortunately didn't stop them from living together. See, although
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  Speaker 1: Bradley moved out to live with his mother, Abigail didn't
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  Speaker 1: trust him at all. When he was away for a moment,
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  Speaker 1: she couldn't stand it, so she developed an extremely controlling
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  Speaker 1: personality and consistently coursed Bradley into coming over and sleeping
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  Speaker 1: with her most nights. If someone wants to find Abigail's
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  Speaker 1: true colors, though it didn't take very much looking to
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  Speaker 1: really find it. Despite most of her social media accounts
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  Speaker 1: now being deleted and can't really find it online. And
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  Speaker 1: if you really do look up her name, you can't
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  Speaker 1: find a whole lot about her. It's really difficult. It's
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  Speaker 1: just the typical headlines of the aftermath of this case,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like eight to ten paragraphs, all saying the
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  Speaker 1: same thing, all having the same photos. So it takes
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  Speaker 1: a lot of digging text you really find the information
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  Speaker 1: on this case, which was the hardest part of part
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  Speaker 1: of the research. But yeah, she had multiple social media accounts,
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  Speaker 1: all which are inactive. In one of her TikTok videos, though,
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  Speaker 1: Abigail played the notification sound for the dating site Tinder
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  Speaker 1: to see if she can get a reaction from Bradley.
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  Speaker 1: So she's recording herself sitting by Bradley and plays the
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  Speaker 1: Tinder dating site. I don't know what that sounds like. Well,
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  Speaker 1: we've been together from before tender exists.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh wow.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: But yeah, so you know, thinking, you know, your significant
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: other might be upset over this dating platform thing notification. Yeah,
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: of course he's going to be upset, and she knew
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: that going into recording this video, So that's what she
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: was trying to get a reaction from him.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: Oh that's I mean, I kind of like some of
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: the reactions videos, but maybe not to that extent.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: When you really think about it, it's like that's that's
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: not cool. Yeah, So now he consistently sorry. She consistently
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: consistently abused her social media in ridiculous ways. She would
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: be a little Bradly for example, on multiple videos and
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: posts and everything. And have you ever seen those videos
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: where people are like they're arguing like in a public
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: space or something like that, and they're like they threaten
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: you with like I'm going to post this to Facebook
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: and I got like so many people like my Instagram
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: have like so many followers, We'll get you canceled, like
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: all this sort of stuff. She would do that constantly.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: She would try to like use her social media, following
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: her platform to be like I'm going to post this
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: and just bullying people trying to get her. Really, yes,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: it seemed to be a consistent thing she would do.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: So, not necessarily just to Bradley, to other individuals.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Yes, oh yeah, now friends and family, you know, they
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: they like you guys need to take some time apart.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Things are not good and a lot of Bradley's friends
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: and family members. They're saying, like Abigail, she's spiraling, you
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: need to get the funk away from her. And Bradley, however,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: remains basically just trapped in this toxic cycle, unable to
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: really break free. To put into perspective though, just how
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: toxic this relationship was and just how controlling Abigail was.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: I'm going to play an audio recording from you from
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: Abigail that was sent to a friend. So she's talking
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: about Bradley and the relationship and this sort of stuff.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: So here we go.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: Honestly, I have no limit when I get angry, and
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: like obviously he said that I need help with that
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: because people are generally saying to me, one of you
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: are going to end up dead. And I fully believe
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: that I'm quite capable of killing him if he hurts
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: me again, and or I'm gonna end up being in person. Well,
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: I don't believe a word that comes out of that
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: boy's mouth. I have to beat the living daylouds or
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: out of him for him to tell me the truth.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: And he still don't tell me the truth, only tells
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: me the truth when he thinks I'm going to kill him,
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: Like when I get a knife out, like when I
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: stop him, like I just I just don't get this kid.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Geez.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So if you didn't hear that, she's talking about
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: how she can't believe this this kid, this boy whatever
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: she's referring to him as. And she's like, he only
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: tells me the truth when I fucking beat it out
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: of him, and even then he won't tell me the
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: truth unless he thinks I'm going to kill him, like
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: when I bring a knife out and stab.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Him, like, and she just seemed like she was so
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: calm though, like it was just a normal conversation like
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: where are we going to go for dinner kind of thing.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Why don't know the worst part of it all If
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: you listen closely to that audio, you can hear her
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: kids in the background.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: No shit, yes see seriously, yes, oh my gosh, okay
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: that is you know. I did hear something, but I
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: just never it didn't like click what it was.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Wow. I don't want to say it's like a kid crying,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: but it's like a kid like whining or complaining. Maybe
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: the kid's like I don't know, like wants their toy
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: in reaching for it. Like you can hear a child
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: making some noises. Yeah, and it's it's very obvious, especially
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: after listening to that, that there were some serious issues.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: And not only if there were some serious issues, but
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: something was bound to happen. So on March twenty fifth,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, after everything that occurred in their approximately
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: six year long relationship, the violence reached a brutal climax
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: at eight pm on March twenty fifth. Now, according to
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: the police reports, it was more specifically around eight ten
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: pm when a very loud scream erupted from Abigail's home.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: The neighbor, Miss Kundi, came rushing over and found Abigail shouting, quote, help,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: I can't get through. Can someone call the emergency services?
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: He's not breathing And she was also met with a
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: very bloody scene. Bradley was lying on his back in
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: the kitchen, blood covered the hallway and living room with
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: a blood stained knife on the radiator.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: WHOA, she can't get through to like emergency?
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, miss Oh.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: My gosh, could you imagine running into a scene like that?
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Hey, oh, I can't imagine.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: It's terrifying.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Oh so, Miss Condy called nine nine nine, or our
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: equivalent of nine one one immediately, and when paramedics arrived,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: they rushed in to begin treating Bradley. Police began containing
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: the scene and found blood all over the place, including
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: on a T shirt, a mop, and several other items
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: of clothing. Abigail was acting terrified. She claimed that Bradley
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: had stabbed himself in the chest after they had a
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: heated argument. You just looked at me, funny.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: Well, I was like, you don't say that doesn't okay?
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Is that for real?
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Well? It was the story. Authorities weren't buying okay, are
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: you buying it? No?
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: But then I was like your question that I wasn't
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: buying it, So I'm like, am I supposed to buy this?
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Well, you just looked at me like so, like wide
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: eye and inteen.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm trying to make sure, Okay, I'm trying not
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: to give myself a wrinkle. I'm really trying hard right now.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Well, anyways, let me back up just one seconds.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: We can keep on track here. She was acting terrified
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: and claimed Bradley had stabbed himself in the chest and
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: the authorities were not buying it. So Bradley was rushed
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: to the hospital, but there wasn't much that could be done.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: They tried to do surgery, but to no avail. He
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: clung to life for several hours before finally being pronounced
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: dead at one thirty am.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: So was that bad, hey, and he lost that much blood?
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: I imagine, Well, when you understand his injury, you'll understand why. Okay,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Bradley died from a single stab wound that penetrated his
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: thoracic cavity by slicing through the gap between the ribs,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: piercing his heart. Oh frig a single stab wound to
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: the heart.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: So the news of Bradley's death came to his family
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: by the police knocking at the front door and informing
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: what happened. Several friends also came forward right after, and
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: they said that shortly before Bradley had died, Bradley had
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: admitted to having an affair. This, of course upset Abigail,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: and this was enough for the officers to have a
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: motive and they made the arrest on Abigail White.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, Okay, having an affair is tayar is terrible,
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: But like it doesn't seem like they were in a
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: whatsoever healthy relationship?
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: No, I mean they were both by the sounds of
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: it having affairs on each other, it seemed like that
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: was kind of like the normal that. It doesn't make
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: it right, don't get me wrong.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: I mean they needed to break up, not one of
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: them murder the other.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: One, Yeah, for sure. So during questioning, Abigail claimed that
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Bradley was threatening to harm himself, so she grabbed the
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: knife from him to throw it outside. She ran down
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: the hallway with a knife in her hand, but Bradley
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: caught up to her, grabbed her wrists, and plunged the
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: knife into his own chest.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Okay, that doesn't make any sense.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Hey, yeah, bullshit.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Could you imagine like plunging the knife into your chest
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: like that?
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Well, not even that he's she is saying she has
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: the knife. Yeah, he took her hand and stabbed him.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: And running after her to get this.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Bullshit bullish shit. Yeah, what actually happens takes us back
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: to the afternoon of that day, the reality of the situation,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, outside of their their year's worth of toxicity
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: and all that sort of stuff, and Abigail allegedly stabbing
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Bradley in the arm another one time week prior to
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: so let me and that's outside of all that stuff. Yeah,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: apparently that happened.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Getting stabbed and then still staying Hey, yeah, that so tough.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, gosh, I mean, there's so much more to
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: it than that, but gosh, that's really.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: I know, I know. So yeah, back to this afternoon,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Bradley realized he no longer wanted to be in a
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: relationship with Abigail and he wanted to end things. He knew, though,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: she was not going to take it well, so he
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: asked her to meet him in a public place, a park.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: When she arrived, Bradley broke the news to her, and
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: apparently she was enraged. But clearly they're going to still
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: have to be in each other's lives because, I mean,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: they had children together, right. So, shortly after five pm,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: surveillance cameras captured Bradley, Abigail, and her friend Ryan and
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Lewis arriving at the Horseshoe Pub. Abigail had apparently just
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: started a line of cocaine a few minutes prior and
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: was now mixing with alcohol, not a good combination when
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: you're emostally unstable and just went through a Breakupgail was
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: acting both short tempered and angry, causing trouble for other
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: people in the pub, and getting into several arguments with
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: other patrons as well while they're there. A lot seemed
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: to happen while they were inside this place, including Bradley
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: crying in the bathroom, confiding with one of the friends
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: that he was terrified of Abigail and Abigail getting into
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: a fight and throwing Bradley's drink in Bradley's face and
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: what I mean, like in a fight, I mean a
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: legit bar fight with another patron.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: Gosh.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So as a result, they were kicked out, and
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Abigail said that she wanted to go home and be
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: alone with Bradley. When his friend told her to stop
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: bullying Bradley, she responded by spitting in the friend's face.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: So she's essentially forcing him, like, let's go home sort
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: of situation.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that is just like such a terrible position
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: to be in. Hey, it is because that's also like
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: the mom of his children. So yeah, he probably like
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: pretty you know, wants to make sure she's going to
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: be all right.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: I guess, all right, yeah, for sure, make sure his
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: kids are all right. And I'm assuming most of his
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: shit is there too, I mean it's of course, like, yeah, sure,
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: maybe we're broken up right now, but it's kind of
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: where I fucking live at the moment, so we got
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: to get stuff sorted out in the coming days. But yeah,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: let's go home for now.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Well yeah, doing that in like he had a good
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: plan of going and doing this in like a public place.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Righteah, definitely now at this moment, it was around seven
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: to fifty pm when mutual friend Alfie offered to give
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: them a lift back home. The couple accepted the offer
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: the offer, and it was reported that they argued the
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: entire way back home, and once they arrived home, Abigail
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: stormed inside while Bradley said goodbye, during which one of
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: the last things he said to his friend was I'm
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: dead when I get home.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Okay. Was he being like serious or like?
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: I don't think I think he was more so being facetious.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: It's just a long night kind of thing.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, frig Yeah, Well, like I told you when I
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: went out to play ball hockey, like I'm I'm going
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: to die tomorrow, like like that sort of situation, right yeah, metaphorically, Oh.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: But that is just like some brutal last words.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: It's still very very ominous. Now, it would be not
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: even twenty minutes later that Bradley was stabbed. Now. Abigail
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: refused to take full accountability and refused to plead guilty
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: for the murder of Bradley, but she did agree to
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: play guilty to manslaughter charges. As the investigators dug deep
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: into the case, they found a mountain of concerning evidence.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: After combing through Bradley's phone data, analysis found hundreds and
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: I mean hundreds of threatening messages sent to Bradley in
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: months prior from Abigail. For example, on February seventh, one
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: month before Bradley's death, Abigail sent Bradley a message saying quote,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: I swear to God I'll stab you jeuz. Another message
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: just a few weeks prior, saying quote I'm going to
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: stab you in the fucking neck.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, could you okay?
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Yes? Yes, So it wasn't even a one time thing.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: This is a consistent threat.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Getting text messages like this from like your loved one.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well we have these two texts, and we have
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: an audio about her talking about stabbing him and killing him.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Huh.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Consistent talking about killing.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Brady because okay, see my head, where my head's at is.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of like, well, did she actually mean to
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: kill him or was it just like a terrible fluke
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: of where the stab wound ended up being. But gosh,
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: this is some some like daunting evidence here.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Well, how's this and some of the text messages. She
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: even threatened to kill Bradley's mother in front of him,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: and just six days before his death, she made several
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Google searches related to stabbing.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Oh shit, okay, yeah, I take that back.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: She most likely meant it.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah wow.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: So.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: Abigail was examined by several professional psychiatrists before heading to trial.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Doctor Seyah Crease, a clinical psychologist who examined her, concluded
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: that Abigail was so poor at controlling her anger that
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: she said ninety nine percent of the rest of the
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: population would be more able to successfully do it than her.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: By the population, so that includes kids, yeah. Doctor Bradley Hiller,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: a consultant forensic psychiatrist, said that Abigail appears to suffer
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: from borderline personality disorder. Was also confirmed that she did
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: not exhibit signs of delusion, hallucinations, or other symptoms consistent
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: with psychosis, and was in fact found fit to stand trial. Okay, really, yeah,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: so she was not delusional, she did not have hallucinations,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: nothing along those lines. She is completely sane. She's just
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: an anger bitch.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, it doesn't help too that she was
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: so like what's the word intoxicated or whatever, probably that
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: night too, right, like she was doing drugs and alcohol.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. I mean, this is a whole cooking
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: pot of shit, right. We have, like her upbringing, we
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: have the terrible toxicity throughout this relationship, which I'm not
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: going to say that Bradley was innocent in it, but
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: it seems to be very heavily upon her side, as
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: you mentioned, with the intoxication aspect, all leading up to
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: this breakup. But that does not change the fact that
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: she consistently at least had the fact of killing and
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: stabbing him on the mind.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, for like a good month at least.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: At least I'm sure this happened a lot longer, but
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: at least, as far as evidence go, for at least
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: a month. So I mean, yeah, it just kind of
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: speaks for itself at that point in all honesty. Now,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: as a result, though she would not get the plea deal,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: so much evidence against her they went to trial.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Okay, so she stood.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: She stood in court staring down a potential murder conviction.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: After twelve hours of deliberation, the jury would come back
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: with a decision. Abigail White was found guilty of the
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: murder of Bradley Lewis. As a result, under UK law,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Abigail was sentenced to life in prison with a minimum
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: of eighteen years before she could be eligible for parole,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: which means that the very earliest she may be free
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: in October of twenty thirty nine.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: Oh that's not long enough.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: I agree, huh So now, Bradley's father commented that losing
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: him was the hardest thing he had ever experienced in
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: his life, and Bradley's mom, Rachel, stated that part of
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: her world ended when police told her that Bradley had died,
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: and that the loss will be with her for the
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: rest of her life.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Oh gosh, well, yeah, like I mean, I think that's
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: probably one of the worst things in life, to lose
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: a child.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: I think, yeah, that dreaded knock at the front door
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: is I think anyone.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: You would just drell that you would just know something
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: is wrong.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: If yeah, if you ever see police knocking at the
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: front door. He hold your breath, that'd be a terrifying sight. Yeah,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: and I mean, of course there's so many other things
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: that can go along with it. It could be like
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: your kid was caught fucking spray painting a local supermarket wall,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: or like hopefully it's just that.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, it could even be like something to
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: do with a crime happening in the neighborhood though too, right, Well.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: I know, yeah, there's that. I mean, especially when you're
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: where you're talking like military individuals, there's that dreaded knock
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: at the front door, right, So yeah, Anyways, Bradley's death
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: brought so much sadness to his family though that many
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: people that did know him, and the hundreds of people
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: who attended his funeral honored his life, family and friends
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: from years that At Bristol Rovers Supporters Football Club they
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: played a friendly football match against Helen f C. And
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: not only did hundreds of people sign up to watch
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: the event, but more than seven thousand people or sorry pounds,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: seven thousand pounds was raised for his funeral, with the
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: remains donating remaining donations there we go going towards Mind,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: a men's mental health charity on Friday, the twentieth of
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: May twenty twenty two, Bradley Lewis was cremated at Westerly
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Crematorium and during the service, one of the football managers
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: that used to train him when he was a child
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: said this quote, he was one of the nicest kids
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: you could ever meet. Sometimes people say that without actually
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: meaning it, but with brad it was genuine. He was
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: very placid, amicable and polite, just one of the good
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: guys in life, Like his dad. He will be desperately
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: missed by the many that knew him.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: That is really sad, Like he would just it sounds like,
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, if circumstances were different, he would have just
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: like thrived.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: I think so as a human. Yeah, but he got
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: caught up in the toxic, very toxic relationship with Abigail,
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: which unfortunately that we said at the very beginning, when
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: you kind of get brought up in that environment, that
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: domino effect hits and you perpetuated almost.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like, I mean, yeah, she totally was a victim
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: at one point, right she is.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: But there's a time in life, and we've said this
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: before in the podcast, just because you're a victim doesn't
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: give you the freedom to perpetuate and to do things
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: upon other people. You still know the difference between right
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: and wrong. She knew not that killing him would be bad,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: even if she didn't mean to kill him, she knew
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: stabbing him as bad.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, now those kids like don't have parents really correct?
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Their mother is in jail and their dad is gone.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, gosh, were they home? I wonder when this was happening.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Hoping not. I don't know, I'm assuming not because they
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: were out, you know, right, yeah, back home?
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: But frig So that is the story of Abigail White
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: and uh, yeah, I'm Bradley Lewis huh.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: I mean it sounds like she does need some serious
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: help of sorts, So it's like hoping that she kind
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: of gets that.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Well she's in Yeah, I do hope she fucking gets it.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: She deserves to be rotting for longer, in my opinion,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: But while she's in there, I do hope she gets
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: the help so then when she does come out, she
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: can be a fucking productive member of society and not
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: rage and do this sort of shit.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's always scary to me when like there,
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: because like Bradley really wasn't that old.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: It is scary to me when they go to prison
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: at a young age and then you know it's pretty
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: much guaranteed that they will get out. Yeah, that's just scary.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: So it's just like you hope that they're doing the
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: work in there that they need to be doing.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think she'll be if I do my math
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: correctly in my head here, don't quote me, but I
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: believe she'll be eligible for parole at forty one.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Well yeah, and hopefully maybe she's even like getting some
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: sort of education in there or something, right, so then
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: when she comes out, she can do something other than
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: only fans, which wasn't going super well. Right. Yeah, So
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know if there's forty year old only fans,
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: I have like no idea.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Oh I'm sure there is. And don't get me wrong,
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: I have nothing against if some people are doing only
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: fans and doing sex work. You know not do you
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: We're sitting we're doing a podcast talking about true crime.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: We're just different genre. So but I do say to
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: the general population doing only fans, it's not worth it.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: You're not like, because there's so it's not necessarily worth
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: it for like selling your content or anything. It's not
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: worth it in the aspect that you there's so many
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: creators' you're gonna drown.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: Like I didn't realize it was so a traded Like
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: I had absolutely no idea.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, to make any sort of wave, to make any
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: sort of financial gain format, you got to work your
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: ass off. If you can do it, fuck, yeah, good
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: on you. Yeah, but the chances are you're gonna put
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: all that effort in and not see the return.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah that's I mean, yeah, I'm not saying I have
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: anything against it either, And like I should say, a
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: forty year old on only fans is totally fine.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: But yeah, but we're two thirty six year olds who
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: host a true cram podcast.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: I know, Hey, I'm only thirty five.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: Okay, give it a couple months.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: He's aging me over there.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: I'm six months older than you. Get over it.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: I know. It isn't that wild to think that we're
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: like close to being forty. I know, like, what the heck,
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: it's absurd anyway, Hm, that is like a real shitty story,
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: right there, is it?
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: Ever? Like?
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: Holy heck? Because I just feel like he would have
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: just he just seemed like he was an awesome human
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: and I mean choices and stuff. Maybe when he died,
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: he wasn't up at his most awesome. Yeah, you know,
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: but if if he had met someone better or something right.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: I wholeheartedly believe Bradley was drugged down by Abigail.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: I do not think you would have done the things
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: that he'd done in the relationship were it not for
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: her and her toxicity. She fucking poisoned.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: Him in mind. Yeah that's just too bad. Wow, So well,
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: rest and peace.
• 40:31
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• 40:33
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• 40:48
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• 40:52
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• 41:00
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• 41:05
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