Latest / Best of Business / Karl Puschmann: entertainment journalist on Netflix looking into buying Letterboxd for $423m
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- 0:17Speaker 2: Netflix might be about to become the new owner of
- 0:19Speaker 2: one of New Zealand's biggest tech startups. Letterboxed is a
- 0:22Speaker 2: key we developed app social media app where you can
- 0:25Speaker 2: log and rate your favorite movies. They're looking to sell
- 0:27Speaker 2: in The rumor is that Netflix wants to acquire it
- 0:30Speaker 2: for about four hundred and twenty million New Zealand dollars.
- 0:32Speaker 2: Carl Pushman is a film and entertainment journalist and with
- 0:35Speaker 2: us Hello Carl.
- 0:36Speaker 3: Good evening, hither is it worth that much? Well, that
- 0:40Speaker 3: is a lot of popcorn, We've got to got to admit.
- 0:43Speaker 3: And I think the interest to someone like Netflix buying
- 0:48Speaker 3: this thing is all that it's a double edged sword.
- 0:50Speaker 3: And way there's all that juicy audience data and we
- 0:53Speaker 3: know how big tech loves that data. And here you've
- 0:56Speaker 3: got thirty million users all logging their preferences, what they like,
- 0:59Speaker 3: telling them everything about films. And then also for someone
- 1:03Speaker 3: like Netflix, a little bit of tinkering around what users
- 1:07Speaker 3: are being served up on the whole home page could
- 1:09Speaker 3: very much become a reality.
- 1:11Speaker 2: Homepage of homepage of Box or Netflix, Yes.
- 1:14Speaker 3: Of Letterbox. When you log into Letterbox, you might see
- 1:17Speaker 3: the new Netflix film that's out that Friday, and you
- 1:20Speaker 3: know that's That's one of the fears that the users
- 1:23Speaker 3: have of how will this corporate influence come in on
- 1:26Speaker 3: this site which has really built its reputation on being
- 1:29Speaker 3: a niche social network and really that sense of community
- 1:33Speaker 3: around and you feel like you're with film enthusiasts, you
- 1:36Speaker 3: feel part of that club. So it's a They've got
- 1:39Speaker 3: a very delicate balance here to keep that feeling and
- 1:42Speaker 3: also get that return of investment that obviously, if you're
- 1:45Speaker 3: spending what did you say, four hundred and thirty million dollars,
- 1:47Speaker 3: you're going to want to see.
- 1:48Speaker 1: You totally to return on that we should for you.
- 1:51Speaker 2: I mean, if your Netflix, you already know what I like, right,
- 1:54Speaker 2: you already see what I'm clicking on. You see what
- 1:56Speaker 2: everybody they know what you're clicking on. They know at
- 1:58Speaker 2: which point in the TV show we get bored and
- 2:00Speaker 2: drop off? So why do that? Like, what is letterboxed
- 2:03Speaker 2: giving them that they don't already have?
- 2:05Speaker 3: Well, it is giving them a pathway into more user base,
- 2:09Speaker 3: and it's also given a pathway to sort of get
- 2:11Speaker 3: their material in front of people that maybe not clicking
- 2:15Speaker 3: into Netflix, they'll find ways to integrate the two services.
- 2:19Speaker 3: So if you're on Netflix, you can scroll straight to
- 2:23Speaker 3: there be a boxing, go straight to your little box account,
- 2:26Speaker 3: start log against that writing it all without leaving Netflix,
- 2:28Speaker 3: which keeps you engaged in their system, keeps you logged on,
- 2:33Speaker 3: and you know social I mean sorry, streaming services want
- 2:36Speaker 3: engagement with you because then you're less likely to cancel
- 2:39Speaker 3: your subscription. So that could be what they're looking for,
- 2:43Speaker 3: is just another way to keep people engaged with Netflix
- 2:46Speaker 3: rather than going off to one of their rivals.
- 2:48Speaker 2: Okay, so the whole the whole thing here is that
- 2:51Speaker 2: you're supposed to put in your profile your four top films.
- 2:55Speaker 2: Have you got a profile?
- 2:55Speaker 3: By the way, I do? I do? I haven't used
- 2:58Speaker 3: it for a little while. Very topic enthusiast. What are they? There? Existens,
- 3:04Speaker 3: which is a David Cronenberg sci fi film, Woody Allen
- 3:08Speaker 3: any Hall rom com, and Alfred Hitchcock's Psycho.
- 3:12Speaker 2: But that's only three.
- 3:13Speaker 3: Oh and the fourth one is Swingers.
- 3:15Speaker 4: What's what?
- 3:17Speaker 3: John Favreau's not that kind of swing set?
- 3:19Speaker 1: Oh?
- 3:19Speaker 3: Okay, it's a comedy about some lads heaving a big
- 3:24Speaker 3: night in Vegas.
- 3:25Speaker 2: Okay, I didn't know where to go with that. Carl was, Okay,
- 3:28Speaker 2: this it's unexpected twist, and how this.
- 3:30Speaker 3: Is not that it's not that kind of sight, not
- 3:35Speaker 3: keys and the keys and.
- 3:36Speaker 2: The bowl thing. Listen, Carl, thank you very much, man,
- 3:38Speaker 2: look after yourself. I really appreciate you talking us through
- 3:40Speaker 2: Carle puishment entertainment journalists. So the other thing is because
- 3:43Speaker 2: Sam the producers really into this, right, He's into all
- 3:46Speaker 2: the cool stuff that the young people are into. He said.
- 3:48Speaker 2: One of the most iconic aspects of this particular site
- 3:51Speaker 2: is that they go that obviously the fourth thing, and
- 3:55Speaker 2: so they actually go to the red carpet and they
- 3:57Speaker 2: ask the celebrities what their four favorite movies are, and
- 4:00Speaker 2: then they pop that up on social media as well.
- 4:02Speaker 2: This is Tiger Whyts.
- 4:04Speaker 1: Spirit of the Bee Fraduate.
- 4:05Speaker 4: It's always up there.
- 4:07Speaker 2: Oh you know, I did Love Train Dreams and Begonia.
- 4:11Speaker 2: And this is Sam Nils.
- 4:13Speaker 4: The Piglebowski, which I think is a perfect film on
- 4:16Speaker 4: every level. Targo, I like those crand brothers as a kid,
- 4:19Speaker 4: twenty thousand leagues under the Sea with James Mason, and
- 4:23Speaker 4: James Mason became subsequently a friend of mine. I could
- 4:25Speaker 4: sharp for myself from a Sleeping Dogs was an important film,
- 4:29Speaker 4: I think because it was the first film we'd made
- 4:31Speaker 4: for twenty years or something. It was the first film
- 4:33Speaker 4: we'd ever made in color, and I was in it,
- 4:35Speaker 4: this cornearby that had no idea what he was doing.
- 4:38Speaker 4: The film's always meant to Love to me.
- 4:40Speaker 2: That is surprisingly hard to do. By the way, if
- 4:42Speaker 2: I said to you name your your favorite four films
- 4:45Speaker 2: right now, could you do it? Because I thought about
- 4:48Speaker 2: it all all afternoon. They said, what were your favorite
- 4:50Speaker 2: films that I only know? Two? Love Actually? Yes, I know.
- 4:53Speaker 2: I'm a loser. Love Love Actually though, isn't it wonderful?
- 4:58Speaker 2: I'm so cross with Alan Rickman and why did she
- 5:01Speaker 2: take him back? Horrible man? And also In the Loop.
- 5:05Speaker 2: If you haven't watched In the Loop yet, what are
- 5:07Speaker 2: you doing with your life?
- 5:07Speaker 3: God?
- 5:07Speaker 2: I don't even where you could stream it from go
- 5:09Speaker 2: and find it. But after that I couldn't find I
- 5:11Speaker 2: don't I don't know the other two. I was just
- 5:13Speaker 2: making stuff up after that. And I still it's been
- 5:15Speaker 2: hours now, It's been like four hours since they asked
- 5:18Speaker 2: me this question earlier today. I still can't figure out
- 5:21Speaker 2: the other topic of that.
- 5:21Speaker 1: Out I do.
- 5:22Speaker 2: I've got the rest of my life. Don't worry about it.
- 5:23Speaker 2: We'll sort it out.
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