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Episode 458 - “The Cloud Crashed: When the Net Goes Dark.” · TechtalkRadio

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  Speaker 1: The following program is produced by the Tech Talk Radio Network.
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  Speaker 1: And welcome to another episode of tech Talk Radio. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Andy Taylor, I'm Sean de Weird, and we hear the
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  Speaker 1: show that talks about well computers, technology and of course
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  Speaker 1: the Internet and everything encompassing all of that. Just a
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  Speaker 1: couple of guys talking about tech. Hopefully we'll have some
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  Speaker 1: tips for you, stuff we could share. We got listener
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  Speaker 1: questions for today. And yeah, just the two of us say.
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  Speaker 2: If you can get to us today, Oh yeah, maybe
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  Speaker 2: you're having a problem with Amazon.
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  Speaker 1: People are with People are so confused, Sean, with this
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  Speaker 1: past week of course, in case you didn't know, there
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  Speaker 1: was an outage and people were just told it was
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  Speaker 1: AWS and they hear Amazon. They think Amazon is messing
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  Speaker 1: up with their internet. Can you kind of explain a
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  Speaker 1: little about why does Amazon have anything to do with
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  Speaker 1: the services that people use, whether it be coin base
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  Speaker 1: or Snapchat or you know, roadblocks or any of that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Why that affected so many people this past week when
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  Speaker 1: they had an outage.
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  Speaker 2: So when you connect to a website, you're pointing your
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  Speaker 2: computer at a name, Google, Reddit, Verge, whatever, whatever, whatever, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Tech Talk Radio whatever ONBS that you're going to that name.
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  Speaker 2: Your Internet provider points you to what is called a
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  Speaker 2: DNS server Domain Name Registration DNS. That then in terms says,
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  Speaker 2: oh you want Reddit, which is this IP address, and
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  Speaker 2: it provides that for you, and it connects you Amazon.
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  Speaker 2: So those websites host their content in the cloud or
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  Speaker 2: at storage servers on prem solutions, but they use Amazon
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  Speaker 2: for resolving that DNAs information.
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  Speaker 1: That's a huge that's a huge business portion for Amazon,
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  Speaker 1: isn't it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's billions of dollars a year, like billions, Like
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  Speaker 2: it's ridiculous. And so a Amazon AWS East one, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's had had an outer and that is regionally right.
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  Speaker 2: So but that was a large portion of that DNS piece.
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  Speaker 2: So on October twentieth, twenty twenty five, AWS had a
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  Speaker 2: major outage centered in its US East one region, which
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  Speaker 2: is in northern Virginia. Many services that rely on that
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  Speaker 2: ADBs portion just didn't work, couldn't work anymore. The root
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  Speaker 2: of that problem was a DNS resolution failure. Basically, the
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  Speaker 2: systems knew where their data was stored, just couldn't find
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  Speaker 2: the street address. Basically, think of it like streets and
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  Speaker 2: addresses and stuff. They you just couldn't find it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: basically your computer didn't know where to go to find
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  Speaker 2: the information, and until it was resolved, you couldn't get
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  Speaker 2: down the street. I mean, it was a lot of websites,
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  Speaker 2: It was a lot of stuff. It was coinbase, it
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  Speaker 2: was robin Hood, it was banking information in the UK,
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  Speaker 2: it was Reddit was down, Snapchat was down, McDonald's was down. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you're trying to play monopoly and you can't
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  Speaker 2: do not pass go.
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  Speaker 1: And even Amazon was affected by this.
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  Speaker 2: They even Amazon like your ring camera, your Alexa's Like,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's crazy how much how decentralized this has become.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we tried to ask the Alexa something in the morning,
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  Speaker 1: is that I don't know what to do or you know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how to do that. It was, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it was there, but it didn't know how to get
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  Speaker 1: that information because well they were they were affected by
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  Speaker 1: that as well.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So, I mean I didn't even really notice anything.
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  Speaker 2: And I got a couple of emails from work saying
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  Speaker 2: some of some of our stuff was down. I figured
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  Speaker 2: it was just like a scheduled outage, but then I
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  Speaker 2: started seeing some more stuff because I wasn't able to
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  Speaker 2: get on Reddit. I just read it's down, big deal.
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  Speaker 2: I don't have any other social media, so I wasn't
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  Speaker 2: getting And then finally somebody mentioned that there was a
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  Speaker 2: huge Amazon outage, and then I started to pick up
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  Speaker 2: on a couple of things and did some some searching
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  Speaker 2: to see what was going on. But yeah, it's it.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't a global ottage like we had it two
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  Speaker 2: or three years ago regionally, so yeah, yeah, So, I
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  Speaker 2: mean it's a critical infrastructure. Literally everything you do on
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  Speaker 2: a data debate day to day basis in the US,
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  Speaker 2: it's tied to the Internet.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, hands down. Even I know that Roku was down,
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  Speaker 1: and that's the thing. You know, a lot of people,
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  Speaker 1: at least for some a lot of people rely on
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  Speaker 1: that for their entertainment. And we've talked about this before
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  Speaker 1: about the need to have digital media versus having physical media.
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  Speaker 1: That having the physical media can be in case there
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  Speaker 1: ever is an outage that lasts a long time. The
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  Speaker 1: longest one was that one in twenty twenty one. We
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  Speaker 1: talked about that when it was like three days. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and people weren't able to connect to certain things and whatnot,
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  Speaker 1: and that kind of reminds you, like, well, This is
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  Speaker 1: a good reason if you ever had to subsist without
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  Speaker 1: the Internet, but you have your devices, you want to
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  Speaker 1: use them to have that physical media. Yeah, it's it's wild, and.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's it's weird, it's it's it's hard to
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  Speaker 2: talk about this because it's piracy is not a big
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  Speaker 2: topic to talk about, but it's like it's forcing people
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  Speaker 2: to look at alternative ways to get media.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so, well, even with your own media. You know,
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  Speaker 1: in the case of well like services like Plex where
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  Speaker 1: you can easily use programs like the DVD Ethinic's Next Copy,
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  Speaker 1: where you could take your DVD or your Blu Ray
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  Speaker 1: and make a digital copy of it, store it on
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  Speaker 1: a device, connect it to your your router, your computer,
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  Speaker 1: or put it on your computer and then be able
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  Speaker 1: to access it. So you want to watch you want
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  Speaker 1: to watch you know, Lost in America or Into the
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  Speaker 1: Night or I'm talking to some of my favorite movies
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  Speaker 1: here American, Werewolf, London. You can easily do that without
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  Speaker 1: having to go find the CD or DVD and store
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  Speaker 1: it on your device. Just make a backup.
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  Speaker 2: So yep, my whole book. I have a bookshelf just
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  Speaker 2: off off screen here that has my DVDs on it.
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  Speaker 2: I have a physical DVD collection. It's not as big
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  Speaker 2: as it used to because I've gotten rid of some,
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  Speaker 2: but all of them are digitized. I spent most of
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  Speaker 2: COVID really doing just in rip in rep in rip
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  Speaker 2: and if you're interested in preserving your media from physical
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  Speaker 2: to digital, right make mkav will do Blu rays if
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  Speaker 2: you have a Blu ray, burner, Handbrake will do DVDs.
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  Speaker 2: Those are both free programs. They're both open source, so
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  Speaker 2: they're both great.
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  Speaker 1: You give me a little challenging to use, but once
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  Speaker 1: you get it, it's.
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  Speaker 2: Pretty straightforward, and they both have very very well fleshed
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  Speaker 2: out tutorials on how to do these things. The communities
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  Speaker 2: around these projects are very open to answering questions and
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  Speaker 2: there's tons of tutorials on it. It's almost point and
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  Speaker 2: click at this point. You put the disc in, you
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  Speaker 2: click burn, you pick the format you want, the resolution
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  Speaker 2: you want. Do you want it to have all the menus?
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  Speaker 2: Do you want it to have all the special features? Yes? No? Yes, no,
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  Speaker 2: yes no. Burn rep You've got a four and a
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  Speaker 2: half gig file for DVDs, upwards of eighteen to twenty
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  Speaker 2: gigs for a Blu Ray if you multi layer.
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  Speaker 1: So, I mean some people like to get the menu
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  Speaker 1: systems on DVDs, Like if they're going to make a
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  Speaker 1: digital copy, can they do that so it's not just
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  Speaker 1: the movie. They can have the interface so they could
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  Speaker 1: go to the menu system and say, I want to
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  Speaker 1: see behind the scenes, I want to see this. Is
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  Speaker 1: that possible for people to do?
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  Speaker 2: No, I've never tried it that way. I've never tried
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  Speaker 2: to do to burn a DVD to emulate it as
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  Speaker 2: a DVD in a player. I've just always ripped the
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  Speaker 2: VOB files for DVDs and then compress them into an
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  Speaker 2: MP four. So I don't know. I know that you
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  Speaker 2: can still just put a DVD into your computer and
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  Speaker 2: play it that way too, So if you're looking for
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  Speaker 2: that emulation, it's it's very easy to do. Maybe not now,
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  Speaker 2: Maybe not now, because hardly hardly any computer you buy
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  Speaker 2: now comes with a comes with a CD, any Blu
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  Speaker 2: Ray CD anything. I mean, you're hard pressed to get one,
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  Speaker 2: let alone. They make USB ones now and things that,
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  Speaker 2: so it's relatively easy to get them, but they're not
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  Speaker 2: a common thing in PC builds anymore.
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  Speaker 1: LG makes makes one. I know I've got a couple
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  Speaker 1: of them that I use and it saved my butt recently,
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  Speaker 1: which I'll tell you about coming up. But it's really interesting.
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  Speaker 1: There's a story that I read on one of the
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  Speaker 1: one of the tech blogs that optical drive demand has
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  Speaker 1: gone up with Windows ten. Retirement Japan was one of those.
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  Speaker 1: They found users switching to Windows eleven. We're buying up
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  Speaker 1: Blu ray drives to have inside the machines. So they
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  Speaker 1: go ahead and they whether either putting them in their
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  Speaker 1: machines or they're doing the externals. They wanted to have
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  Speaker 1: that capability to be able to watch their content on
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  Speaker 1: those devices, and they found that the sales went up.
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  Speaker 2: I think we need to go back since I started
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  Speaker 2: on the show and count the number of times that
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  Speaker 2: I've said there is going to be a analog revolution,
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  Speaker 2: not necessarily an analog revolution, but a a physical media revolution.
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  Speaker 2: People are going to there is going to be a
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  Speaker 2: demand back for physical media. And I think with the
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  Speaker 2: chaos of all the streaming platforms and you know, having
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  Speaker 2: to have ten subscriptions to get the content you want,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, the raising of the prices the game
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  Speaker 2: passed this stuff like that, it's like I just want
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  Speaker 2: to play my games. I just want to watch my movies.
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  Speaker 2: Like I can play all my stuff. I have the
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  Speaker 2: capability because I've I'm a little bit of a tech order, right.
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  Speaker 2: I can play Blu rays, I can play DVDs, I
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  Speaker 2: can play VHS tapes like, I can play all that.
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  Speaker 2: But a lot of people what the way of the
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  Speaker 2: DODO wants to have that stuff? Right? It's like they
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  Speaker 2: they said, a streaming is the next it's the best thing.
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  Speaker 2: Here's all my DVDs at a yard sale for fifty
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  Speaker 2: cents apiece and somebody came and bought them all up. Well,
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  Speaker 2: with this outage, you may have not been able to
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  Speaker 2: get to Netflix, HBO Max was down, so you couldn't
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  Speaker 2: you couldn't watch your content there. Again, with the way
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  Speaker 2: the licensing stuff works, it's like even when you're paying
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  Speaker 2: for Prime or Disney Plus, they bump you up into
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  Speaker 2: the next, the next tier, they raise your price. All
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  Speaker 2: of a sudden, you log in and you start streaming
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  Speaker 2: Malana for your your three year old, and you get
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  Speaker 2: served two and a half minutes of ads. It's like,
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  Speaker 2: whoa wait, I didn't think I was paid for Like,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't think my plan included ads on Disney Plus.
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  Speaker 2: And then you look and they say, oh, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: the price went up, you're not paying for that price,
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  Speaker 2: so you got shifted into an ad plan.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, what the heck. It's like, if two minutes
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  Speaker 1: of ads for a four year old, we'll just lose
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  Speaker 1: their interest compleatly.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's why we pay for YouTube Premium. Our boys
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  Speaker 2: like to watch YouTube. There. You know, there's a handful
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  Speaker 2: of shows. Nickelodeon has a couple of things on YouTube, Blippy,
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  Speaker 2: a handful of those shows that are on YouTube. Trying
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  Speaker 2: to watch any of that content on YouTube without YouTube Premium,
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  Speaker 2: without the ads, with the ads was a literally a
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  Speaker 2: miserable experience. And getting ads, it's just it's it's a
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  Speaker 2: it's a nightmare, and I get it. People don't have it.
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  Speaker 2: Not it's I feel very privileged to be able to
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  Speaker 2: pay for a handful of subscriptions to not have ads,
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  Speaker 2: and it's it's it's a you know, I understand that,
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  Speaker 2: but it's a miserable experience.
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  Speaker 1: And there was there was just a price increase too
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  Speaker 1: this week in case you didn't know. And it's weird
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  Speaker 1: they didn't really talk about it. I don't think they
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  Speaker 1: talked about it before they made the announcement, but Warner
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  Speaker 1: Brothers Discovery and now you know, there's big talk now
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  Speaker 1: about there's gonna be a sell or a purchase outright.
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  Speaker 1: Comcast is one of those that could possibly be interested
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  Speaker 1: in buying, but Warner Brother's Discovery. As of this past Tuesday.
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  Speaker 1: So the cost of your HBO Max plans gonna increase again,
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  Speaker 1: another increase if you get HBO Max Basic with ADS,
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  Speaker 1: which will allow you to stream on two devices simultaneously.
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  Speaker 1: So if you've got a household and your kids are
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  Speaker 1: watching in one or maybe you like a show and
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  Speaker 1: you know your your other half goes and wants to
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  Speaker 1: watch something else on that services monthly, it goes up
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  Speaker 1: a buck. Now we might not think not a dollar,
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  Speaker 1: but when you add paramount plus, when you add Discovery,
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  Speaker 1: if you're paying for that, when you add you know, Netflix,
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  Speaker 1: the Netflix, it's obscene. It gets crazy, it's obscene, and
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  Speaker 1: you don't you.
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  Speaker 2: Just don't realize it, and it's all just gross marketing,
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  Speaker 2: hostile marketing, and it's I wish sometimes we had digital
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  Speaker 2: digital rights like the UK does in some some instances,
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  Speaker 2: because that would shore up a lot of this stuff
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  Speaker 2: and get us on track to actual having actually having
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  Speaker 2: user rights to some of this stuff.
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  Speaker 1: And a lot of people that would tell me, you know,
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  Speaker 1: they're getting rid of their DVDs, and they would say,
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  Speaker 1: it's okay, because that's streaming. I can find it anywhere,
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  Speaker 1: you know. I there's a website I love to go to,
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  Speaker 1: and you can check this one out too. It's called
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  Speaker 1: real Good uh, and it is a site you can
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  Speaker 1: go to and you can type in a movie real
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  Speaker 1: Good dot com and say you want to see this movie.
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  Speaker 1: When uh, the missus Bucket from Keeping Up Appearances died recently,
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  Speaker 1: I thought, oh, I want to watch some of those episodes. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: And I don't have the DVD box set of Keeping
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  Speaker 1: Up Appearances. It's good British comedy and you go there
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  Speaker 1: and you find, okay, where can I watch it? It's
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  Speaker 1: only available on brit Box, but it's also available on
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  Speaker 1: the Roku channel, which anybody you don't have to have
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  Speaker 1: a Roku device to be able to watch a Roku channel.
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  Speaker 1: You could go ahead and just watch it there and
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  Speaker 1: you go They've got a guide you can go through
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  Speaker 1: and you could find it there on that that's so
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  Speaker 1: it's a great way to find out where a movie
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  Speaker 1: that maybe you liked or a TV show you like
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  Speaker 1: is available to stream, and it might be on Netflix,
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  Speaker 1: or it might be on HBO Max. But with the
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  Speaker 1: price going up, a lot of people are just saying
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  Speaker 1: this is ridiculous because they cut the cord and then
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  Speaker 1: they went Internet only, and they said, Okay, we'll get HBO,
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  Speaker 1: we'll get hu Hulu, we'll get Peacock, we'll get Paramount Plus.
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  Speaker 1: That covers pretty much everything. Right then they found out no,
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't, so they oh, let's add Pluto TV. Pluto
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  Speaker 1: TV it's free, or some of the other free services.
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  Speaker 1: But then with the added cost of all the subscription services,
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  Speaker 1: people are saying this is outrageous. Like if you do
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  Speaker 1: an HBO Max standard no ADS streaming on two devices
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  Speaker 1: the same time, it's one hundred and eighty four dollars
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  Speaker 1: a year, that's a lot of money for a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people. So you know, it just it all adds up.
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  Speaker 2: It does, and it's we'll never go back to the
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  Speaker 2: way it was with over the AIRTV because it doesn't
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  Speaker 2: reach anybody anymore, and that nobody sits at home, nobody's
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  Speaker 2: going home at four o'clock to watch Star Trek Voyager
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  Speaker 2: after they get off the school bus like I did
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  Speaker 2: growing up because I knew it was on at four o'clock.
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  Speaker 2: But that structure doesn't work for the majority of society.
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  Speaker 2: These days, there were always good, just really good shows
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  Speaker 2: re reairing at between three to five up until primetime,
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  Speaker 2: and then you hit your primetime stuff and then on
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  Speaker 2: Friday nights it was you know, Naked Night. On Friday
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  Speaker 2: nights it was Saturday Morning cartoons. Like there was set
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  Speaker 2: times that the world knew you were watching TV and
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  Speaker 2: they could cater. It's all about ads. It's all about money, right,
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  Speaker 2: It's all about ads. This is the entirety of this conversation.
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  Speaker 2: It's focused around how do we get eyeballs on money
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  Speaker 2: and and when you have content that is available twenty
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  Speaker 2: four to seven, three sixty five streaming anywhere in the world,
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  Speaker 2: it's it's just free money and an ad free service
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  Speaker 2: was so unrealistic and based on the amount of content
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  Speaker 2: these places are pumping out. You're paying big, big bucks
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  Speaker 2: for studio content, not network content. Not already invested money
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  Speaker 2: into an affiliate NBC, ABC, CBS, Fox, whatever. This is
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  Speaker 2: a brand new production facility that's got to do these
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  Speaker 2: very very high level productions. And there's the expectation just
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  Speaker 2: kept getting high and higher. Right. You had these shows
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  Speaker 2: that when Netflix first came out, you had Stranger Things,
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  Speaker 2: you had Drive to Survive, You had all these other
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  Speaker 2: series that just lived on Netflix that you wanted to watch,
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  Speaker 2: and the expectation was it got better every time, and
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  Speaker 2: the expectation was, I'm going to pay the same but
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to get better. You can't expect it to
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  Speaker 2: get better every time and have it available to you
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  Speaker 2: all the time without it costing more money.
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  Speaker 1: I would rather, I don't know about you, but I
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  Speaker 1: would rather pay a decent price and have Netflix with programming.
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  Speaker 1: But now, like if you get on the Netflix, you
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  Speaker 1: get lost in the guide itself. It's like, gosh, what
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  Speaker 1: do I want to want to watch? There's so many
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  Speaker 1: options because they're paying for that programming.
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  Speaker 2: This is this is my opinion on how the Internet
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  Speaker 2: is right now. Everybody, every company that's on the Internet
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  Speaker 2: neet wants to be the center of the Internet. They
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  Speaker 2: want it to be. You come here to do everything.
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  Speaker 2: You come here to stream, you come here to play games,
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  Speaker 2: you come here to do social media. That's what that's
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  Speaker 2: what everybody wants. That's the focus of everybody's your eyeballs.
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  Speaker 2: And that's not how it was. That's and it's when
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: you have that much marketing going into trying to keep
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: everybody's attention on everything, and you have all these deals
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: and it's so confusing for a consumer to find anything.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, this real good website is great. I just
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: looked it up. This looks fantastic. But it's frustrating because
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: a lot of the apps will reach out and look
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: at these other apps and CEO, it's streaming here. It's
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: not on here, but you can watch it on Amazon,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: and then you're like, great, I can watch it on Amazon,
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: and then you click on the link rent or buy
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: for two ninety nine or four. Well, now I'm frustrated,
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: so let me go find it somewhere else where it is, Well,
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: it's only available here. Well if I rent it now
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: I don't own it. But if I buy it in
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: six months, what if they re what if they pull
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: the license and now I don't own it anymore.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: There was a real good documentary about Gordon Lightfoot that
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: was done some years ago, and I wanted to watch
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: it wasn't available anywhere except in Canada, and it was
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: available in Canada for you to watch on the I
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: guess it's CBC or one of those, so wouldn't let
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: me watch it? Just turned on the VPN. Turn on
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: the VPN pointed it, saying that it was a Canadian connection.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: You're not doing anything illegal. And I was able to
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: watch it. And some people are finding out there's a website.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: There's another here. We're giving you some good websites today,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: and I don't know if you've heard about this one
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Sean called TV dot Garden. If you go to TV
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: dot Garden, it's pretty amazing because you can actually watch
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: TV from around the world and it's free, so you
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: can watch their broadcast channels, whether you want to watch
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: something out of Britain, Italy, Spain, Greece.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: It's awesome.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: It has a globe and then it has you know,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: where where do you want to watch? And like I
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: had to look, you know, because my family is got
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: a background from Mignon mar Burma and I thought, what
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: do they watch it over there? I wanted to take
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: a look and I clicked out it and I'm like, whoa,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: look at this. This is a trip. This is what
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: they're watching over there, like a news program. Out of there.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: You could see him from all the different countries streams again,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: TV dot Garden.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: This is insane. There's you can just I'm I was
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: listening to you talk for a second, but I'm scrolling
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: through just you can literally find anything on here.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: You know one of those stories I heard, do you
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: remember Herve Villachet. I don't know if you know that name.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: There's a movie called My Dinner with Hervey that is
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: really great, and if you ever get a chance to
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: watch that, I'd say take a look at that. Hervey
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: was a tattoo on the show Fantasy Island. And I
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: read a story once about Herve and how he learned
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: to speak English. He was from France. He actually learned
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: by watching television, watching American television. Now, back in the seventies,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: you know, growing up, there was a lot of choices.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Sesame Street you can you can still watch Sesame Street.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: You can watch Sesame Street, I Love Lucy. You could
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: watch shows and reruns. You could watch shows like Emergency,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Adam twelve, the whole bit, and you could pick that up. Now,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: I wonder if the same thing could be applied to
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: TV dot Garden where I want to learn to speak Spanish.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: So you go to Spain or you go to Mexico
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: and you watch what is streaming out of there and
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: maybe help you understand the language a little better. It
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: could be could actually be good and educational source.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: Sure. Yeah, you immerse yourself into that, that language and
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: the help doc. I'm just blown away at this one's
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: TV dot Garden. It's I mean, it's incredible which.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: You can find. There's a lot of good stuff on there.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: There's more stuff to talk about. I wanted to. I
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: want to go over this one really quickly, though. Do
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: you remember we were talking about driver Easy. I went
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: ahead and bought it and I been able to put
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: it on a system at work that was given us
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: some troubles. I put it on my main system here
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: at home. I've got one license still to use and
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: it helps you find the drivers for your system that
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: all at one time. But there's another one, and it's
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: been around a while. It's been around a long time
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: called win get. Have you ever used wing get wind? No,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: wing Get is a command line program. It's a wind
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: It's called Windows Package Manager is what it is. It's
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: safe to use, generally saying it's an official Microsoft tool.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Not to get to it, what you'd have to do
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: is use your command key, So down on your bottom
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: search bar, you could type cmd. That's one way to
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: get to your command button. There's other ways, and then
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: you'll see a pop up and one of those options
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: is select run as an administrator and then you type
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: in wind get update and it will show you a
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: list of programs that can be updated that you may
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: have in your computer, like Adobe Acrobat, drop downloads that
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: you may have had you not updated yet. Wind get
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: will actually do those updates for you. So like Driver easy,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: this actually focuses on the programs that are a part
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: of your computer. And I mean it's you can't go
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: wrong with that. Again, it's wind get, so you use
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: the command key to get to it, and again is
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: part of part of your Windows operating system.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: That's I didn't know about that. Yep, that's something, but
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: it's clever and I have a bunch.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you can actually do when when GETU I just
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: just did.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: I just did. It's audacities out of date. Driver EASi
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: is out of date. Wow, my Steel series stuff's out
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: of date. My stream decks out of date, obs studios,
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: out of date, Boy discards out of date.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Don't do it while we're doing the show, please.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Because it'll do a Windows probably. It's cool. So it's
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: like just for those like who are interested in Linux,
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: like this is pseudo app get we'll get you this
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: or should we have to update, we'll get you the
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: same thing and update libraries based on that's a similar concept,
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: which is pretty.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Cool, making it making it easier for you. Or we
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: can take a quick break. We come back. A couple
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: of listener questions we will share with you. Maybe it's
• 25:14
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• 25:17
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• 25:21
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• 25:32
  Speaker 2: So imagine it's three am, all right, and you're sleeping
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: and you have to get up and use the bathroom. Right,
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: so you use an eight sleep product, which is a
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: bed that has can move, can shift, can you raise?
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: You have it down?
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, those are kind of cool, but they.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Don't have an offline mode. And it always has to
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: be connected to the cloud. Wait really, and so at
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: three am when Amazon Web Services has an outage, your
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: bed is now stuck.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: You're kidding me.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: I had no idea The AWS outage impacted some of
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: the users. There are eight sleeps two thousand dollars. Pod
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: mattress covers found their smartbeds had no offline mode and
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: we're stuck at high temperatures or odd positions during the night.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Oh that's not good.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: So you can only imagine like, oh, I'm uncomfortable. Let
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: me raise up my bed and it's stuck. It's really hot,
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: let me turn it down and stuck because it doesn't
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: have an offline mode, meaning it's always calling to the
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: cloud for information.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Wow, So so is it okay? I know this sounds
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: very you know, people will say, oh, you're just going
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: down a different path there, But isn't that giving up
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: a lot of your info how you sleep when you
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: get out?
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Do we? I mean, I know, our TVs relay a
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: lot of information, like what you're watching at night, what
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: your what commercials? You skip over the whole bit.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: There was a tech a tech enthusiast that posted that
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: said his pod locked itself nine degrees higher than room temperature.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Back end doubters means I'm sleeping in a sauna.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Oh eight sleep.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Confirmed there was no offline mode, but they were rolling
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: out a fix.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: So yeah, and that's the thing. We constantly are looking
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: at ways to connect, even our vehicles. You wonder, though,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: what path are we going down?
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I don't know, man, it's a had. I talked
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: a little bit about this at work with a coworker
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: about how do I explain the Internet to my children? Okay,
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: because I've and you've experienced this too, I experienced it
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: a little bit differently than even you did, right, because
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: growing up the internet in my young room, you know,
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: my preteens, the internet was very much non a thing.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: It was very hard to come by. It was only
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: dial up, it was only it was expensive, and so
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: we just didn't have it. And then getting into grade school,
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: I you know, we had basic internet connectivity, got introduced
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: to you know, number mounchers on the Max and you
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: know games on you know the five, you know the
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: five at a Quarridge floppies and stuff like that. But
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: then into junior, junior, and senior high school, slowly got
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: into the Internet, learning what search engines were, and learning
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: what chat rooms were, and learning what you know, the
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: shadier sides of the Internet were as a teenager and
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: having to go to the library to get connected because
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: the Internet at home was not good enough, and spending
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: that time figuring out what the Internet was. Now, how
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: do I explain that to Max when he can just
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: sit at the computer and have everything availed to him.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: You're right, right If I if I gathered up a
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: dozen of my friends from high school and said, ha,
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: do you remember that strong bad video from Homestar Runner,
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Everybody's gonna know what that is. Do you remember playing
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: flash games? I know by No Black Sheep or Ebom's
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: World Flash Games right, or you know playing Uker on
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Yahoo Games or chatting on al and Semessenger. It was
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: a shared Internet experience. Nobody has that now because it's
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: it's so user customers customizable that it's it's become its
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: own world. Everybody has a unique experience now. And I
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: just feel like, to me, that's the nostalgia of the Internet.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: It's for me is I knew what my friends were
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: doing on the Internet all the time. I knew that
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: I could go into AOL messenger and talk to my friends.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: There's a little bit of community building there. Now, communities
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: are much larger now and they're worldwide now, so it's like,
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: it's just weird to see that transition. But how do
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: I explain that to Max? How do I get him
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: into the Internet safely and curiously but safely?
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: You know, I was just thinking about your talking about this, Sean,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: And I remember, you know, when I learned to drive,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: the warning came out from my parents, never pick up hitchhikers.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: I remember in the late sixties going to San Francisco
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: with my parents in our station wagon, driving back, my
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: dad pulling over to pick up a couple of hitchhikers
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: that were in military uniforms. You would never ever think
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: about doing that today. Turned out they had just gotten
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: back from Vietnam and they were, you know, they were
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: working their way to get back to Los Angeles. Luckily
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: we were going that way and learned some things. I
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: don't remember. I was too young, but you wouldn't do
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: that these days. And now that's become the Internet danger
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: where you don't pick up, you know, strangers on the road.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Now you don't communicate with strangers on the Internet. That's
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: the new danger zone. Sean to talk to the kids
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: about don't do this, don't do that, and that's gonna
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: I think it's gonna get even stronger now they're worried
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: about telling the kids about AI and how to use
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: AI and not to get in trouble in school and
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: how to learn.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it's weird to think that in twenty
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: years the Internet has changed that much, twenty five years
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: since I've really been a user of the Internet, and
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: how much it's changed for my generation and then Max's generation.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: It's just it's wild. And even even through major world
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: events like COVID that changed how a lot of people
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: viewed the Internet. So you have kids that are graduating
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: from high school for college that lived through COVID, and
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: even their experience is different, and how they see the
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Internet and how they approach it and how they approach
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: classroom learning. And so it's so weird how mentally challenging
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: the Internet can be, and how from a society perspective,
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: how a important it is because it's literally the connectivity
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: of the world right now, and to how dangerous that is.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: I wanted to get my grandson. I've heard a story
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: of study the other day about the Internet and how
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: numbers are coming down when it comes to mathematics, when
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: it comes to writing, when it comes to reading, and
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: I wanted to get him into reading because that was
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: what pulled me, you know, as a I love reading.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: I love always loved reading. So I wanted to find
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: like And the thing is, you can't just give them
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: a book and say here, read.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Many parents out there might be going, yeah, you can.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: You can't because they're so distracted by technology that I
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: want to find a way for technology to help with
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: the reading. I don't don't know if that's possible.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: I believe you've hooked on phonics. Like, that's technology, right,
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: It's the it's the CDs or the tapes that played
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: and you read along with the books. That's technology. Right.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Everybody thinks that technology has to be a computer. It
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: has to be has to be the Internet. Technology is
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: the advancement of the human Technology not just Internet and
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: in electronics. Technology can be many forms. So it's like
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: going back and using technology that isn't meet like computer
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: related can be a huge part of that.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: Wow, all right, we got a listener comment. I definitely
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: want to answer this from an This was on our
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: Facebook page and it said, Hey, Andy, I want to
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: search the questions and discussions on the tech talk radio
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: site for advice about Windows eleven S mode, but I
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: didn't see any way to search, and maybe that's something
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: I need to start adding to the website. We're still
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: working on changing our websit over to maybe a little
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: more featured website, so hopefully that'll be coming soon, and
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: says what am I missing? And then she added to
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: that because I responded about what Windows was all about.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: She said, I recently purchased a new laptop with Windows eleven,
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: and I'm not thrilled about Microsoft basically forcing us to
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: stay in S mode where only Microsoft products can be installed.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: As you said, you can get out of S mode,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: but when then you can't get back in, which gives
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: a person pause. I have malware bites virus software, which
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: I like very much, but I can't install it without
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: getting out of S mode, and the fact that I
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: can't get back in again is intimidating.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: It.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: It scares a lot of people, says I like to
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: use a Chrome browser sometimes, which you can't do in
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: S mode. You have to use the Edge browser. So
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: if I understand what you said, though, being out of
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: it is not that big a deal. It seems to
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: me as if it's just a way for Microsoft to
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: force people to use their products. Some people would benefit
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: from S mode. That would be people who are afraid
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: of installing the wrong thing.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: And these are the people that bought the Windows XP
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: for Dubby's books.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty much.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: I mean it's Windows es MO. So for those of
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: you who are listening that don't know what Windows S
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: Mode is, Windows s Mode is basically a stripped down
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: version of Windows that only lets you run Microsoft products.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: That's it. You going down upon the Microsoft Store.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: And you get Edge, that's it. So it just it's
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: sandboxed you a little bit. You can still get out
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: to the internet, but it's not gonna let you install files.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: It's maybe it's gonna be good for a kid, but
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: any any kid that has any sort of technological curiosity
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: is gonna work around that in a heartbeat. Yeah the
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: five I just googled it, Okay, can't do that in
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: S mode. Stronger security, faster performance, longer battery life, simpler management,
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: those are the things. But again, if you want to
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: use Chrome, or if you want to get customizable, you
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: gotta get on a mode.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Third party programs you may not be able to run
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: if they're not in the Microsoft Store.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, why might you not want S mode? Right? You
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: can't install apps outside of the Microsoft Store, No Chrome, Steam, Discord, Photoshop, anything.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: And it says once you get out of a S mode,
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: there's no way back. That is kind of scary, right
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: I had.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: I had bought a laptop for my daughter, and you'll
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: find these general You'll find S mode generally on some
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: of the lower priced, basic, you know, entry level laptops.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: And I had bought one for my daughter who's going
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: to school in Phoenix, and it was grown up, but
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: it had S mode on it. So when I reached
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: out there, I said, listen, I'm going to remove S
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: mode on this because you don't need it. You know,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: you know the basics, you know this, I can do this.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: When I told her you couldn't run Google on it,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: you know, she was like, wait a minute, forget it,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: you know, because that's what she had been used to.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: So again, S mode can be confusing and scary, but
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: I don't there may be a certain amount of you
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: that may benefit from using S mode. But generally I don't.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, maybe if you have elderly parents that just
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: need to use the internet for their email and to
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: watch Netflix or some streaming apps, great, no problem. It's
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: going to stop it from download and road programs.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I missed the calls from my mom. My mom's
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: no longer with us, but I miss those calls. What
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: does this pop up? Andrew? Do I need this program? Andrew?
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: I just want to play my solitaire Andrew. So Yeah.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Having a mom who was a little bit more technical savvy, yeah,
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: she solved a lot of her own problems, which is great.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: My dad, on the other hand, not so much. My
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: in laws are a little technical inapt, but it's great
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: I get to help them. I help them get a laptop.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: You know, I went through all the one drive stuff
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: where it forced you into logging in, and it just
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Windows is in a weird state. And it's again full
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: circle with the ads stuff we were talking about earlier,
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: with the web streaming, with the video streaming, it's like
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: that's they just want your eyeballs, right, they want to
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: put ads in these places. In my inexperience with experience
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: with computers and stuff, it's like going back to you know,
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: started on Windows, you know, Windows ninety five and Windows
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: ninety eight and Windows XP and Vista, and then once
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: Windows eight came along, that was really the first realization
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: that they could put ads in the home screen. Yeah,
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: now you click the start bar and all of a sudden,
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: there's an ad for a you might want to search
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: for this based on your recent searches. It's like whoa
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: hold on what?
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Exactly?
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: And then you know they skipped nine to ten and
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: ten wasn't awful. You could customize your build when you
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: installed it to say, feed me any of this garbage,
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: and you could get a pretty stripped down version of
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: Windows ten with just the install, the base install.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: Not evenmore. We got to take a break. We come back, Sean,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: I told you about a problem I had. I fixed it.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: I got it fixed. So when we come back, I'll
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: tell you what that problem was and how you may
• 39:24
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• 39:26
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• 39:36
  Speaker 1: That button and now back to tech talk radio. So
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: I had a problem, and I even had a comment
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: from somebody saying, you know, don't be so hard at yourself,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: because I thought I did the stupid thing I have.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: And I've mentioned this before. A computer in our studio
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: that originally was Windows ten. I had built a Windows
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: eleven computer. Seeing all this stuff was going to be happening,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: and I went to install Adobe the suite that I
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: have that is phenomenal. I will say Adobe products are great.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: This Adobe Creative Suite five to five was phenomenal. Did
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: everything I.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: Needed to do.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: I do video, I do you know after effects, I
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: do publishing, I do you know audio editing? And I
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: couldn't install it because it said I was installed too
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: many devices went through the rigamarole with Adobe. They said
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: they couldn't do anything for me. Their activation servers are gone.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: So I had to preserve this computer Windows ten. So
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: I had to make the decision, well, how am I
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: going to upgrade it to Windows eleven. So I started
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: looking through it, looking at the computer. I made a
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: clone of that drive, put that in the system. It
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: booted up okay, and then I started going into bio
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: saying oh, can I prepare this to update it to
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Windows eleven? And something? I did it just that was it.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: It would not load anymore. Tried the backup drive that
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: would not load anymore. I thought, I've lost this. I've
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: lost this ability to have that extra Adobe Suite on it. Well,
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: as you know, I've talked about RUFUS and how RUFUS
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: has just been great, has allowed many people that have
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: not been ready to upgrade to Windows eleven yet to
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: do an upgrade. And the only upgrade feature I could
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: find was to update to Windows eleven on that computer,
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: which I could do because I did it on another drive.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: I could do, but I would lose my programs. So
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: I thought, well, how am I going to get around this?
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: And I was reading about RUFUS and reading and I thought, well,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: look at this and in place upgrade. I could do that. Well.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: I tried and in place upgrade on another computer that
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: I had here at the station, and it worked. All
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: the programs there, everything's working, though, I'm going to try
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: that at home, And then I thought to myself, no,
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: you're better off fixing Windows ten. So I found my
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: LG backup DVD drive. I found my original disc that
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: I had for Windows ten, and I hooked it up,
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: booted up to the disc and went into repair mode,
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: and I thought, let's see if it can fix it.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, who knows. Didn't change anything with the settings
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: that I had been messing with in the bios of
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: the UEFI. And it took two times. But then I
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: walked out of the room while it said repairing the computer.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: And when I walked back, probably about a half an
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: hour later, there it was Windows ten with the Adobe Suite.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: I clicked on it to make sure it's not going
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: to tell me I have to, you know, reinstall or
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: and it was fine. So I was able to save
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: that computer. So now I have to make the decision, Sean,
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: do I use that computer as my recording source in
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: the studio because it has Adobe. I'm using Audacity now
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: and it works fine. But use the Adobe and have
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: that computer in the studio I've won in my office
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: one of my studio, the one in the office is
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: already Windows eleven. I'd have Windows ten in the studio
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: with the Adobe Suite, or take the chance to do
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: an an in place upgrade to Windows eleven, or just
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: keep it Windows ten. Don't connect it to the internet.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Just connect it to the network, you know, using an
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: IP number and do it that way. What is gonna
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: be my solution? What do you think? What should I do?
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: Keep it Windows ten?
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and risk Why risk it?
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: It's not gonna hurt anything. If as long as you're
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: running Windows Defender now war bites yep, and not doing
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: something stupid.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're gonna be just fine. I only use it
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: for recording, recording and editing, and you'll.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: Be just fine. It's so, it's a fun fact, right,
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: I looked this up earlier. I'd read an article. So
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: with the push to Windows eleven freaked a ton of
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: people out around the world. Right, A lot of people
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: were like, oh, oh my god, I can't I got upgrade.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: I got upgrade. Somewhere around sixty five million new computers
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: were purchased or will be purchased, sixty five million. One
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: of these tech blogs I just read estimates that there's
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: four hundred million, four hundred million active Windows ten machines.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: Wow, that's a lot.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, four hundred million. Think about that. That's four hundred
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: million processors, it's four hundred million motherboards, four hundred million
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: hard drives. That's just a mind blowing amount of stuff.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: And to think that sixty five million of that's going
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: to be brand new. What's going to happen to the
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: sixty five million that they replaced E waste? I'm seeing
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: all sorts of articles coming out that people are going
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: to recycling centers, you know, computer recycling centers and hazardous
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: ways and finding machines with early jen NI nine's, early
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: gen early Gen I seven's with memory because people will
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: just they don't they just don't know. They go to
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: the store, and of course, I say, a good salesperson
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: is gonna be like, yeah, you gotta go. You gotta
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: go to Windows eleven. You can't stay at ted it's unsecure,
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: And that's just the fear around that is. I'm skeptical
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: about that, but that's how you get people to move forward.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, security compliance is gonna be good and
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: it's gonna help, but I don't like the way the
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: Microsoft's going around going about it. I don't think outside
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: of this computer that I'm on now, I'll put Windows
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: on another machine. Yeah, well this will be my only
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: Windows machine. I have a couple of macs that I
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: work on do editing on. I think I will move
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: all by other ancillary stuff. I already moved one of
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: my laptops, the Linux Mint, just to play with. I
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: moved a Lenovo desktop that I had that was running
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: games for for Max and stuff. I put that on
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: Linux Mint. It's just I'm because that was part of
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: the one, you know, moving to Windows eleven from the
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: licenses that I had for Windows ten. Windows eleven Home
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: doesn't have remote desktop, so I had to upgrade to
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: pro to get because I was doing the upgrade from
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: remote desktop. I ran the upgrade for Windows eleven, ran it,
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: it rebooted, and then all of a sudden, it's like,
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: you can't connect to the remote desktop. Before I didn't,
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: did you have a keyboard, mouse or monitor? PUG didn't
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: do it because I was just using it as a
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: you know, a play server, just to put stuff on son.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: All of a sudden, I can't connect to it, and
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what what's going on? So I did some
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: research that that's just that kind of stuff is frustrating
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: as a as a user is having an expectation that
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: an upgrade, an up an upgrade that I'm paying for
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: will include the things they already have in this version,
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: Like I get it. Some quality of life stuff maye.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: You know, I can lose a couple of things down
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: here that maybe I didn't care about, but they were
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: features of Windows ten. But you can't have certain high
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: level features and then not make them available in the
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: next upgrade without going to another price here. That's just
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: shady and frustrating as a user.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of people have been really frustrated
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: with with Microsoft in that respect. And like you went
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: the Linux on one of your boxes, you know, and
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: other people have said, well, I'll go Mac, you know,
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: and then they get into the learning curve and it's
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: it's it's not the same ball of wax. If they've
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: been used to using, you know, a Windows PC, well.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: For sure, Yeah, if you're jumping, if you've never I mean, okay,
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: if you have an iPhone and you're a piece of user,
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: it's going to be an easier transition to a Mac,
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: right because the iOS functionality is very similar in terms
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: of user experience that it is. Sign a Mac. You're
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: gonna be familiar with icons, you're gonna be familiar with
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: some of this stuff. But if you're an Android user
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: and a piece of user and you're coming to a Mac.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be night and day different. It's gonna be
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: trying to drive, like trying to drive a standard transmission. Right,
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: you're gonna stalled a couple of times, and you're gonna,
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: you know, have to try to learn how to stop
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: at a stop side on a hill going up and
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: try and get going again. So there's some some learning curves,
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: but it's not impossible.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: But right, I mean, Max doing.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: Some stuff the same kind of the way. You know,
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: they dropped Intel support. They they're dropping potentially dropping Rosetta
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: going forward, so even older older software that runs on
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: Rosetta for Intel translation between Intel and the new M
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: chips that's rumored to be going away in a couple
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: of next revisions. So it's just weird stuff that we're
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: starting to get siloed again with acknowledge you either have
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: to be Mac or Windows, and there's no you know,
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: you can't be agnostic anymore. Like it's you gotta.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: Pick, you gotta pick which one? All right, here's something
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: do you ever get on next door?
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: Yes, occasion occasionally, So Caitlyn has it for our neighborhood.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: I put it on my phone for like two minutes
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: and then immediately regretted it.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: Next story is almost and I see a lot of
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: people commenting it's like Facebook, you know, but it is
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: your next door and there's a lot of people who
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: use it like we used to use Facebook. But I
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: saw I've seen a couple of things on next door
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: that I like, Oh, that's cool, you know. At somebody
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: on next door was asking about room of vacuums, and
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: there were some people who there that were keen on
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: sharing some of their experiences. When it came to the
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: room but vacuums, somebody said the pros the robot will
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: love you and cherish you. The cons it could turn
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: against you. I don't know how a rumba would turn
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: against you, but this one I thought was pretty good.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: This guy has a name for his roomba for doing
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: the two parts of his home. He said, the new
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: roombas a guy named Michael who lives out in Picture Rocks.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: The new roombas will map your space, then vacuum in
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: perfect lines. It even empties itself, which is true when
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: it has finished its job. He said, we have two
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: for different parts of our home. So he has two
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: roombas and he gave them a name. These are their names,
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: And if you're gonna name your rumbas, you can't go
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: wrong with this clean Latifa and dust Ben Bieber. Another
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: quick break. We come back. A couple of websites you
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: might want to check out for websites of the week.
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: We'll be back with more of tech Talk Radio. I'm
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: Andy Taylor, I'm Shana.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: Were to check out our website at tech talk radio
• 50:51
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• 50:53
  Speaker 1: Be right back and now back to tech talk Radio.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: John is still having fun looking at the TV garden.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: TV dot garden is the website. You found a couple
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: of channels while we were doing the show.
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: Sorry, yeah, distracted, What was the question? No, So I'm
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: literally scrolling through thousands of channels from around the world.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: This is just the US. I'm a big motorsports fan.
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: So mav TV is a channel that airs a lot
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: of lower, lower tier race race circuits, a lot of supercross,
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: a lot of motocross, supercars, you know, Australian supercars. It's
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: on here.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: That's cool.
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: So I'm watching some really low low production value supercross
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: race right now. That's on. That's the stuff that I
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: like to watch when I just want to have someone
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: on the background. So it's like this is inc this
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: is a website that people need to know about like this,
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: it's TV Garden, TV dot Garden. All right.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: Here, here's another one for you, Explore dot org. All right,
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: explore dot org. If you remember a site that was
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: very popular about ten years ago, Live cam, where you
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: could watch live cams from all over the world.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: I do not need another distraction like this, Andy, This
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: is the type of website I will spend hours sitting on.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: Oh no, and Explore on Org does it a little
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: differently too. You can look all over the world and
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: find out cameras that are in different places, maybe your
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: favorite town, and see what's going on down your boulevard.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: But also they schedule cameras, so if you want to
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: see polar bears at in the Polar region, you can
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: do that. If you want to see airport operations at
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: a large airport, you can do that and they'll schedule it.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: So tune in, you know, at ten am, you know,
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: on this day and watch it.
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: So this is something similar that Caitlin and I watch
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: every year. It's the Katami National Park Fat Bear Contest.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's on here.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: It's on here. It's one that is one of our
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: favorite things to watch because we track sit like we
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: always like to try and fit pick our favorite and
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: just track it and see. And then one of them
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: died this year, so it was this big ding, like
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: everybody's super sad about it. But they have webcams up
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: in that National Park that just livestream these fat bears
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: eating salmon on the river and like it's This is
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: the part of the Internet that I love is the
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: stuff like this where you could just somebody had an
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: idea to go stick a webcam in the middle of
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: nowhere with a satellite phone or something and get a
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: relatively low resolution webcam back, but you can see what
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: it is.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you get.
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: To track fat bears while they're fattening up for hibernation.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: All right, listen, we got to wrap the show, but
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: two websites to check out explore dot org and TV
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: dot Garden. Check those ones out. We'll be back next
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: week with more info. And you've got a question with
• 53:48
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• 53:50
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