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The Tudor Dixon Podcast: Could Ilhan Omar Be Deported? Former DOJ Prosecutor Jim Trusty Explains · The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

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  Speaker 1: You are listening to the Tudor Dixon podcast, and we
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  Speaker 1: are going to take a peek under the hood at
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  Speaker 1: some of the legal cases that are going on today
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  Speaker 1: with former DOJ prosecutor Jim Trustee. So we're going to
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  Speaker 1: discuss what Kimberly Guilfoyle potentially did that got her fired
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  Speaker 1: from her ambassadorship in Greece. Yikes, that one is going
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  Speaker 1: to be an interesting one. We're also going to talk
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  Speaker 1: Ilhan Omar. Is she going to be denaturalized? And can
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  Speaker 1: Letitia James be trusted with the Cornell 7 case? We're
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  Speaker 1: going to get into all of this with Jim in
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  Speaker 1: a minute, but I want to take a look at
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  Speaker 1: some new video of Ilhan Omar, who, remember, she is
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  Speaker 1: under investigation. We know this investigation is about her citizenship.
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  Speaker 1: We know a little bit about it. There are some
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  Speaker 1: questions about whether the paperwork that was used when she
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  Speaker 1: was becoming a citizen was accurately completed. So this is
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  Speaker 1: connected to her father. So in the United States, a
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  Speaker 1: child can automatically acquire citizenship through a parent who's becoming
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  Speaker 1: a citizen under certain conditions. And we know from what
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  Speaker 1: we've heard in the news, there are questions as to
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  Speaker 1: whether or not Ilhan Omar was actually 12 or 13
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  Speaker 1: when she came to the United States. And in that case,
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  Speaker 1: if she were 13... That would call into question whether
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  Speaker 1: she was still a minor in 2000. If she was 13,
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  Speaker 1: she would have been 18 in 2000, and that was
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  Speaker 1: the year that she became a naturalized citizen. So that
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  Speaker 1: would potentially mean that they lied on her paperwork to
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  Speaker 1: get her citizenship, and then she could actually be denaturalized
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  Speaker 1: and deported. There's also another question. There's a question as
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  Speaker 1: to whether her father's military service was accurately and honestly documented.
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  Speaker 1: And that could also throw her citizenship into jeopardy because
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  Speaker 1: she became a citizen under him. So that could be
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  Speaker 1: a problem. And I mean, think about this. This is
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  Speaker 1: pretty shocking stuff. You've got a U.S. representative. who could
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  Speaker 1: be deported because she potentially lied on her immigration documents.
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  Speaker 1: And she's been a pretty outspoken representative. So if we
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  Speaker 1: see this information come to light and we know that
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  Speaker 1: the judge who signed off on this was a Democrat
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  Speaker 1: appointed judge. So there's been discussion like, is she being targeted?
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  Speaker 1: But the judge has to look at this and say,
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  Speaker 1: there's enough there that we're going to raid her home.
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  Speaker 1: So she's either really nervous right now, or I gotta
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  Speaker 1: tell you, she's a really good actress because she is
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  Speaker 1: out there and she seems sad. Now, either could be
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  Speaker 1: true because remember, this is someone who lies all the time.
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  Speaker 1: She's a politician. It does seem like her demeanor has
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  Speaker 1: changed though. She made the social media video thanking people
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  Speaker 1: for their support and asking for money to help her
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  Speaker 1: fight Trump. And in the video, You can go look
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  Speaker 1: at it in the video. She's got glassy eyes, kind
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  Speaker 1: of swollen. It looks like she's been crying. It looks
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  Speaker 1: like she's on the verge of tears in the video.
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  Speaker 1: So it's a believable fear. And that alone, the fact
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  Speaker 1: that she does this video and in all of the
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  Speaker 1: videos that we've seen of her since this came to light,
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  Speaker 1: since this investigation started, she looks genuinely scared. She looks
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  Speaker 1: genuinely like she's going to cry. It is a believable fear.
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  Speaker 1: that could lead you to believe this paperwork, this investigation
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  Speaker 1: has some validity to it. If she is crying, you
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  Speaker 1: would think this is possibly a really big problem for her.
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  Speaker 1: But you have to also remember this is a really
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  Speaker 1: great opportunity to raise money. And with these politicians, you
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  Speaker 1: just never know. She could be crying crocodile tears because
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  Speaker 1: she wants the money. But this is this is the
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  Speaker 1: video I want you to see because this is really
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  Speaker 1: weird stuff. She was interviewed on MS Now by Chris
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  Speaker 1: Hayes just a few days ago. And it was pretty
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  Speaker 1: crazy because she was asked about that nasty rumor that
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  Speaker 1: she committed immigration fraud by marrying her brother. Now, I
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  Speaker 1: have not heard that that is what this investigation is about,
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  Speaker 1: but there are many family members who are being interviewed
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  Speaker 1: by the DOJ. So he asked her like, Is there
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  Speaker 1: any validity to this? Did you marry your brother to
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  Speaker 1: get him citizenship? Her response is messed up.
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  Speaker 2: Listen to this. Who was this man.
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  Speaker 1: That was your husband?
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  Speaker 3: When did they start saying that he was your brother?
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  Speaker 4: Why? It started with the Somali blog that I don't
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  Speaker 4: know if it still exists, but somebody put in there that,
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  Speaker 4: you know, that he had to have been my brother
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  Speaker 4: or something to that effect. You were not related to
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  Speaker 4: him at all.
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  Speaker 1: Not that. There's not some weird kernel of truth that
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  Speaker 1: through some game.
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  Speaker 4: Not to my knowledge.
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  Speaker 1: Like I can tell you 100 percent I've never married
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  Speaker 1: my brother.
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  Speaker 4: I would.
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  Speaker 1: That's something you like genuinely know. It's not a not
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  Speaker 1: to my knowledge. Not to my knowledge. Did I marry
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  Speaker 1: my brother? She doesn't say anything else about him. That
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  Speaker 1: answer was like illegal. I mean, it sounded like a
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  Speaker 1: legal response. Not to my knowledge. I do not believe
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  Speaker 1: that he is my brother. What, what, how does that even,
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  Speaker 1: how is that even a response? But again, her demeanor
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  Speaker 1: is softer. She's not so arrogant. And she makes this
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  Speaker 1: strange comment like, you know what? I have no, no
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  Speaker 1: recollection of him having been my brother. That's a, it's
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  Speaker 1: a very weird comment. It's very weird. And you may say, well,
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  Speaker 1: you know what? What's done is done. Let's just move on.
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  Speaker 1: She's a representative. But we can't move on. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: the Democrats are the ones telling us all the time
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  Speaker 1: no one is above the law and no one is
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  Speaker 1: above the law. But I would say that statement, no
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  Speaker 1: one is above the law, is especially true of the lawmakers.
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  Speaker 1: And in my opinion, that makes this situation even worse.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if she did lie, if she did get
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  Speaker 1: citizenship illegally, she makes the laws right now. she potentially
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  Speaker 1: came here breaking the law. So you have to ask,
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  Speaker 1: what would she do for other people who want to come? Why,
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  Speaker 1: if you knew you had broken the law, would you
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  Speaker 1: run for office and be so bold in the statements
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  Speaker 1: that you make about the United States and changing the
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  Speaker 1: United States? And we know the Somali community in Minnesota
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  Speaker 1: has struggled with outrageous fraud. She has been oddly protective
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  Speaker 1: of that. And how could we trust her not to
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  Speaker 1: protect other criminals if she, in fact, is one? So
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  Speaker 1: all of this makes me think maybe these tears are real.
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  Speaker 1: And after all this time, after all the arrogance, after
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  Speaker 1: all the attacks on Republicans, after all the threats, all
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  Speaker 1: the undermining, she could have to go back to Somalia.
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  Speaker 1: And I want you to know, I take no joy
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  Speaker 1: in what her life would be there. But if a
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  Speaker 1: crime was committed, that's just simply what has to happen.
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  Speaker 1: Her children will live a very different life, which I
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  Speaker 1: want anybody who is crying about that to know that
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  Speaker 1: is the situation for the child of any criminal. If
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  Speaker 1: you break the law, it affects your kids. So for
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  Speaker 1: anybody who says anything about that, this is why you
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  Speaker 1: don't break the law. The rest of us have somehow
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  Speaker 1: avoided this. It's heartbreaking, but it is her fault. It
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  Speaker 1: would be her fault and no one else's. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: maybe you could say her fault and her father's fault.
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  Speaker 1: He's gone. He's not going to have this problem. She's
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  Speaker 1: got a problem. And if she goes, we will remember
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  Speaker 1: her as the congresswoman who, when talking about the 9-11 hijackers,
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  Speaker 1: those murderers, those terrorists, said some people did something. And
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  Speaker 1: we will also remember her as the terrible racist that
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  Speaker 1: she is. Remember spreading hate against white men in 2018
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  Speaker 1: when she accused white men of causing the most deaths
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  Speaker 1: in the country and accused white men of being the
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  Speaker 1: greatest threat we face? She and her rhetoric will not
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  Speaker 1: be missed. But what's the likelihood that she actually gets deported?
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  Speaker 1: We don't know. We need a legal expert. So we're
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  Speaker 1: going to pull in Jim Trustee to spill the tea
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  Speaker 1: on what could happen with Ilhan Omar right after this break.
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  Speaker 1: Stay tuned. We'll be right back.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Today we have Jim Trustee with us. He is a
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  Speaker 1: former DOJ prosecutor. And I wanted to get into a
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  Speaker 1: few different topics with you. But first of all, we
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  Speaker 1: have this situation with Ilhan Omar. And I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: talk about what could... I know she's been investigated before.
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  Speaker 1: There's been plenty of financial investigations and investigations over her
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  Speaker 1: actual citizenship. Now there's a lot of questions. The DOJ
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  Speaker 1: has raided her home in D.C., and they're going through
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  Speaker 1: documents saying potentially she was not... 12 when she came here.
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  Speaker 1: Potentially she was 13, which would mean that when she
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  Speaker 1: became a citizen, that was 95, when she became a
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  Speaker 1: citizen in 2000, she became a citizen under her father's citizenship,
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  Speaker 1: and she was able to do that because she was
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  Speaker 1: still a minor. So there's questions, did they lie about
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  Speaker 1: her age? Am I getting that right?
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  Speaker 2: I think so.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the only thing I'd quibble with is the
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  Speaker 3: idea of prior investigations, because really, particularly when you talk
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  Speaker 3: about financial misconduct, it's been, you know, policing Congress, which
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  Speaker 3: is not quite the same as a true robust law
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  Speaker 3: enforcement investigation. They kind of look the other way at
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  Speaker 3: dramatic differences and statements of worth. But on the immigration side,
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  Speaker 3: as we're hearing, it all began during the Biden administration.
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  Speaker 3: So it's going to be a little hard to play
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  Speaker 3: the politics victim card that she's tried to play. And
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  Speaker 3: what they're looking at on the immigration side is basically
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  Speaker 3: false statements that enabled citizenship. And so there is risk
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  Speaker 3: there for her, not just of a criminal prosecution, but
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  Speaker 3: even denaturalization.
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  Speaker 1: So denaturalization, does that mean she would be deported?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of a shocking concept to think about, right?
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  Speaker 3: You know, ma'am, I know you just sat in Congress yesterday,
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  Speaker 3: but it's time to go.
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  Speaker 2: It could be a really weird moment.
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  Speaker 3: Denaturalization can really come about either from a criminal conviction
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  Speaker 3: or a civil proceeding where you have to prove the
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  Speaker 3: case by clear and convincing evidence.
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  Speaker 2: That's pretty rare.
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  Speaker 3: Most denaturalizations are tied directly to the criminal conviction because
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  Speaker 3: it's a higher burden. If it's the right kind of crime,
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  Speaker 3: that's kind of an easy denaturalization. And we're starting to
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  Speaker 3: see that happen with Rubio State Department. So I think
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  Speaker 3: that that kind of sits in the wings and we
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  Speaker 3: see how it goes in terms of a criminal investigation.
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  Speaker 2: Are there going to be indictments? Are there going to.
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  Speaker 3: Be successful convictions in that case? That'll probably predate anything
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  Speaker 3: to do with her actual citizenship.
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  Speaker 1: So that would be a court case then, and the
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  Speaker 1: court would look at all of these documents, and they
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  Speaker 1: would make a decision as to whether or not it
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  Speaker 1: would go beyond just her father's knowledge, right? It would
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  Speaker 1: have to say that she also was aware that they
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  Speaker 1: were lying on these documents. Is that right?
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  Speaker 3: To some degree, but it's kind of tricky. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you can charge a conspiracy that essentially starts spreading the
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  Speaker 3: guilty intent to more than one person in a sense.
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  Speaker 3: And really what I think they have to look at
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  Speaker 3: is continued effects. I mean, it's got to be a
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  Speaker 3: material misstatement in the beginning to help you get the citizenship.
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  Speaker 3: And it sounds like being cheesy about your age works,
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  Speaker 3: that that could be a basis for a prosecution if
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  Speaker 3: it affected the scales of how quickly and how easily
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  Speaker 3: she got into the United States. I suspect they're looking
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  Speaker 3: for follow-up, for obstruction that they can try to play with,
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  Speaker 3: false statements that she may have made about her citizenship.
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  Speaker 3: But there's a practical problem that hides behind all this
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  Speaker 3: that not many people really talk about. You know, when
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  Speaker 3: you're building an immigration case, part of what you typically
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  Speaker 3: do is you go to the host country and you
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  Speaker 3: try to get documentation from them. So if I come
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  Speaker 3: over from Australia and they think, oh, this guy, it
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  Speaker 3: must have lied about something. You know, he's not actually
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  Speaker 3: a six foot four black woman. He's a white guy.
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  Speaker 3: You know, they start looking at it. They go right
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  Speaker 3: back to Australia and they get the records. And that
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  Speaker 3: becomes part of the prosecution in the United States. The
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  Speaker 3: problem with Somalia, and I know this firsthand, is it's
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  Speaker 3: been such a broken state for so long that you
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  Speaker 3: have no likelihood of getting reliable record keeping out of
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  Speaker 3: there in a way that you could use it in
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  Speaker 3: an American trial.
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  Speaker 2: And I'll give you a quick example.
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  Speaker 4: It's OK.
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  Speaker 3: The Somali pirate case, if you remember, there was Captain
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  Speaker 3: Phillips movie. There was one guy that was alive, brought
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  Speaker 3: to New York for prosecution. And what he claimed as
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  Speaker 3: he got to the courthouse, and it took him a while,
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  Speaker 3: but when he got to the courthouse, he said, I'm
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  Speaker 3: actually a juvenile. I can't be prosecuted the same way
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  Speaker 3: as an adult. And so we had New York prosecutors
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  Speaker 3: scrambling to see, can we get records from Somalia that
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  Speaker 3: shows that he's actually an adult? They thought he was
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  Speaker 3: about 20 or 21. As it played out, it kind
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  Speaker 3: of became moot because the guy's father testified at a
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  Speaker 3: hearing in front of a federal judge and said, yes,
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  Speaker 3: that's my boy.
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  Speaker 2: He's my second youngest. And the youngest is 18. Oh, ouch.
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  Speaker 3: So when he accidentally gave the correct age of the
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  Speaker 3: younger brother, The judge was like, anything else? You know,
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  Speaker 3: that basically ended it right there. So we never really
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  Speaker 3: got to the issue of how are you going to
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  Speaker 3: prove age from a country like Somalia, like a broken
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  Speaker 3: nation state like Somalia. So I'm a little worried about
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  Speaker 3: that part for this, if they're really trying to build
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  Speaker 3: a full chronology of the immigration and full details about
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  Speaker 3: her father, which seems to be very much an issue
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  Speaker 3: in terms of how he got to this country, whether
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  Speaker 3: he might have made false statements. There's a lot of
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  Speaker 3: kind of crazy issues surrounding this family.
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  Speaker 1: But there's some question about whether he had military service
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  Speaker 1: or not.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some again. Who knows? This is all smoke.
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  Speaker 2: This isn't fire yet.
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  Speaker 3: But, you know, there's rumblings that he was, in fact,
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  Speaker 3: instead of kind of like a gentleman farmer, that he
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  Speaker 3: was involved in military suppression and may have been responsible
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  Speaker 3: for ordering the deaths of a lot of people in Somalia.
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  Speaker 3: So he could be a very sinister figure. We just
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  Speaker 3: don't know that. But I think when you're talking about,
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  Speaker 3: you know, retrieving documents from her place in D.C., there's
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  Speaker 3: a couple of things. One is if you have a
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  Speaker 3: legitimate right to look at certain documents, you might find
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  Speaker 3: other things that are helpful. You might find obstruction. You
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  Speaker 3: might find things out about the father. They apparently took
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  Speaker 3: her phone. If she's sloppy about what she talks about
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  Speaker 3: on the phone or who she texts, you can find
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  Speaker 3: really incriminating evidence there. Prosecutors, federal prosecutors love text messages.
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  Speaker 3: becomes the backbone of a lot of cases. And so
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  Speaker 3: there's a lot going on. But again, right now, to
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  Speaker 3: some credit to the U.S. Attorney's Office and to ICE,
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  Speaker 3: we don't know the vivid details. We're not getting leaks
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  Speaker 3: all over the place about exactly what they're finding. And
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  Speaker 3: to me, that's kind of refreshing. I was a prosecutor
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  Speaker 3: for 27 years. I like the thought that prosecutors talk
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  Speaker 3: in court. They don't talk with leaks. They don't talk
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  Speaker 3: with tip-offs to the media. And so to some degree,
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  Speaker 3: even though Jeannie Pirro has made a few comments about
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  Speaker 3: this case, by and large, we don't know what they
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  Speaker 3: have or exactly where it's going.
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  Speaker 1: You said something, though, that I hadn't heard at the
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  Speaker 1: beginning of this. You said that this investigation started with
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  Speaker 1: the Biden DOJ. That's the first time I've heard that.
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  Speaker 2: I've been hearing that.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to pretend it's from some absolute source
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  Speaker 3: within law enforcement, but there's been a number of folks
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  Speaker 3: that said that it began there. Now, there's also room
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  Speaker 3: for fog of war. Does that mean a referral was made,
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  Speaker 3: but nothing actually happened? I mean, we just don't know details. Again,
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  Speaker 3: I think that's a good thing that we don't know
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  Speaker 3: all the details, but there has been pretty consistent rumbling
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  Speaker 3: throughout the media that this is something that actually has
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  Speaker 3: gone back a few years.
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  Speaker 1: You brought up Jeanine Pirro. She came out and said
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  Speaker 1: that there's a separate investigation into the financial disclosures. So
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  Speaker 1: there was some very weird financial disclosures earlier this year
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  Speaker 1: where they came out and they said, The business, the
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  Speaker 1: husband's business that had been worth, I think it was
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  Speaker 1: like $ 50, 000 in 24 suddenly becomes, or 23 suddenly becomes
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  Speaker 1: worth $ 30 million in 24. And then they changed it
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  Speaker 1: all up and it was like everything was back down
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  Speaker 1: to very little money. How does that happen?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they hired an accountant from the Learing
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  Speaker 3: Center up in Minnesota.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: No, I mean, look, and this is what I mean about,
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  Speaker 3: you know, policing their own. Congress looked at that story
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  Speaker 3: and basically said nothing to see here. And I find
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  Speaker 3: that astounding. Like, I don't care who the politician is,
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  Speaker 3: what the party is. That ain't a mathematical error. That's
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  Speaker 3: something serious going on that warrants at least some exploration.
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  Speaker 2: So, you know, again, that's on the table.
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  Speaker 3: There's a possibility that there's something to make out of
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  Speaker 3: that beyond just whether it complies with congressional disclosure requirements.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: So I want to move on to Ambassador Guilfoyle. So
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  Speaker 1: we all know the story or you probably have heard
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  Speaker 1: the story that Ambassador Kimberly Guilfoyle from she was the
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  Speaker 1: ambassador to Greece. She has been told to resign. She
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  Speaker 1: did resign. And she has there were there were these
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  Speaker 1: reports coming out that she had been asking someone to
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  Speaker 1: pay off her credit card, $ 100, 000 credit card. I'm impressed
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: alone with the fact that you could have $ 100, 000 on
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: a credit card. I'll just say that. Now I was like, whoa, what?
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: She has a different limit than I have. So she
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: supposedly has asked somebody to pay off her credit card.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: And it sounds like she was promising connections to the
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Trump family. Now, I think this was back when she
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: was still in the mix of potentially dating someone And
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: Don Jr., I love how the president has come out
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: and been like, she's not a part of my family.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: I think she dated my son like years ago, you know,
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: so which is true. It was years ago.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Other than being engaged, I've never heard of her.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: You know, it's funny. I will say I heard Megyn
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Kelly the other day. I don't know if this is true,
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: but I heard Megyn Kelly say that she it was
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: her understanding that Kimberly went out and bought her own
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: ring and announced the engagement without talking to Don. I
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: don't know if that's true, but based on some of
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: the stories that are coming out, I'm like, who knows?
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Maybe that is true.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: So it sounds truthy, as liberals would say. It might
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: not be really true, but it kind of sounds truthy.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: It also just sounds like, you know, maybe Athens was
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: let's get her halfway around the world. This is a problem. And,
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: you know, it's a beautiful place. Enjoy the architecture, but
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: don't come back to D.C.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: It's a lovely consolation prize, I have to say.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: I would like to.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: I would date Don once or twice if I could
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: move to Athens.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: I would.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: You know, it would be hopefully platonic, but it would
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: be be worth, you know, hooking up for, you know,
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: going over to Athens.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Literally platonic.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: And you would think that that would be enough. However,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: it seems like she went over there and. Some of
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: these shenanigans continued their stories of private jets that she
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: was getting gifts from Greek businessmen, which you can't do.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: You have to. And it's not necessarily that you can't
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: do it. You have to disclose it. So there's some
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: questions about some of her behavior.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: Over there.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: There was also a Greek construction company that was like
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: in official meetings, looking like they were lobbying. So what
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: is your take on what happened with Mrs. Guilfoyle?
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean, a.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: Couple of things. I mean, first of all, there's kind
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: of two tracks here. There's a State Department inspector general
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: investigation that I think is brewing. And then there's at
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: least the conceivable outcome of a criminal investigation or criminal prosecution.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: I will also say from what I've seen so far,
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: there's no angels in this story. Like there's nobody that
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: is kind of coming to the table where you're like, well,
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: that's a great whistleblower moment. I saw the interview of
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: the of the Trump donor who claims that he's the
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: one that was, you know, solicited to pay off that
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: that tiny little credit card bill of one hundred thousand dollars.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: And he's very angry. He's filed a defamation suit based
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: on her denial, which is kind of like, it feels
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: like New York litigation, right? Like before you even settle
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: the main merits, you go, oh, you're lying. I'm filing defamation.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: He filed a defamation case in Kentucky. And again, from
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: a prosecutor's perspective, I was never an IG, but as
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: a prosecutor, you don't really love to have your victim
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: or your claimant engaged in civil litigation. It immediately creates
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: an issue for their credibility as to whether they're just
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: trying to cash in on things. And also from watching
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: his interview last week with Katie Pavlich, you know, recently,
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: he was just over the top angry. I mean, even
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: got mad at her when she mentioned that he had been,
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: as she said, disbarred from the bar in Ohio. Said, no, no, no,
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: I'm proud of it. I was only suspended and then
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: I resigned or retired. And they're corrupt and they're part
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: of a conspiracy of health care giants and judges and stuff.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: And again, all that stuff would factor into any sort
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: of prosecutor reviewing the facts of this case. Like, if
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: that's my star witness, am I am I biting off
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: too much to chew? And I think he's going to
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: bring serious credibility issues. Now, what he says is that
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: while she was still a nominee, he had basically had
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: paid her one hundred thousand a pop for speaking engagements.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: And that is, you know, kind of an inside the
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: beltway tradecraft that to me has always been insane. You know,
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: like the Clintons cashed in on speeches and people just
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: get absolutely filthy rich by doing a 10 minute lunch
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: while people are eating their chicken.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: And it's kind of an amazing concept.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: So, you know, he threw money at her and that
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: certainly cultivates responsiveness and some sort of relationship. And then
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: apparently after, if I understand the timeline correctly, after she
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: had been confirmed is when, or either on the eve
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: of that or afterwards, she started nagging him. And probably
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: the worst thing she did, I mentioned in another context
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: that prosecutors and inspector generals love to see text exchanges.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: People get sloppy.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: She has like the next worst thing, which is not
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: necessarily an incriminating text, but telling the guy, don't create
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: a paper trail, get rid of these things. And so
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: that gets even the sleepiest prosecutor wide awake. And You know,
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: the inspector general is going to have access to all
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: her government devices.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: Now, it's limited to that. It's kind of an interesting world.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: If you have a phone that you were given by
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: the government to become an ambassador, if you've got an
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: email account, that's all fair game.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: You have no.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: Expectation of privacy. You're not going to be able to
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: suppress it in any way. If she's slicker than that,
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: if she's using encrypted stuff, maybe it goes away if
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: she's using a personal phone.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: That would be immune to the IG part of it.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: And that's always a shortcoming. You know, inspector generals are
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: administrative guys. They're there to decide whether somebody should be
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: fired or not, not to really build a criminal case.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: If you go back for a quick minute to Lisa
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: Page and Peter Strzok, you know, we started hearing all
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: these horrifically incriminating statements.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Text messages between.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: Them, you know, lovey-dovey text messages, but not lovey-dovey to
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: President Trump. And that's all from their government phones. Like
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: the IG never looked at their personal reports. I'm like,
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: God knows what's on their personal phones if that's what
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: they're putting on their government ones. one of them being
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: general counsel to the FBI, who should kind of know,
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: don't do these things. So it seems like there's probably
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: an abundance of digital evidence to look at. There may
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: be some paper trail of the financials that would be
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: a part of this too. If you're a prosecutor and
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: you've got an inspector general out there, you're probably thinking,
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: let's see what.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: The IG does first.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: Let's let them, maybe I open up a paper file,
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: maybe I try to get a few things. But You know,
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: if they're going to gear up and they're going to
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: be working on this thing, if her resignation doesn't stop
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: it in its tracks, which sometimes it does, then wait
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: and see and read an inspector general report and then decide,
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: is there anything that's more incriminating on a criminal level?
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: At the very least, the characters in this scenario are
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: definitely movie worthy. I mean, that guy does look like
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: a knee breaker and you can just imagine what the
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: behind the scenes has been like. It sounds crazy.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he kind of wore a Bill Belichick ripped shirt
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: for his interview the other day. And I'm like, dude,
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: you're throwing around hundreds of thousands of dollars, like, you know,
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: like $ 10 in my world.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Like, okay, but don't spend it all. And I thought,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: you know, this is an interesting look.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: But like I said, he, you know, Katie was very
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: even keeled and was, I think, very much concentrating on
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: being kind of low key. And the guy just, I mean,
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: he didn't need a microphone. He was screaming right through
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: the TV. I mean, I could hear him halfway around
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: the house. It's going to be a wild ride. I mean, obviously,
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: she's not looking good, but that doesn't necessarily translate into
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: criminal consequences.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah. OK. All right.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Good to know. Well, that's it's interesting because I know
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: the president was asked in his interview on Newsmax, would
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: you give her a pardon? And he just kind of
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: sidestepped that question. So maybe he won't. Maybe he won't
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: have to. Maybe nothing will come of it. I want
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: to move on to before we go to the Cornell seven. Now,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: this has gone to. It's been given so far. We
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: don't know if it'll stay with Letitia James. And now
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: there's there's two issues here. There's there's the issue with
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: the evidence. I mean, there is evidence now that the
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: woman came out and said that she I mean, she
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: wrote that she wasn't she didn't have a problem with
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: what happened and everything was good. And then I think
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: it was like a month or two later, she decided
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: that she was not OK with what had happened. And
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: that's all in writing. So that seems like that's going
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: to be a hard scenario to prosecute. But you have
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: a situation where Letitia James came out and made a
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: public statement about the victim, like in defense of the victim,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: saying that what she endured was horrific and unacceptable. So
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: how can she be appointed to this case? Isn't she
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: kind of spoiled already?
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she is.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: I mean, she's been spoiled pre-Day One. I mean, look,
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: I lived it when I represented President Trump, not on
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: her case, but certainly watched with a keen eye what
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: was happening with all these different litigations that were popping
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: up around the country. And this is a person who
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: did the most unethical thing you could do as a prosecutor, announce,
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: if I can get this job, I will target somebody. Well,
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: this is the flip side of that, where she's being
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: appointed to investigate. And a real prosecutor, not a masquerading politician,
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: but a real prosecutor is brings judiciousness to the forefront
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: in the beginning. Doesn't mean you're not going to fight
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: like hell to get your conviction later, but you start
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: off being a judge. Like, is this fair? What are
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: the charges? What's the evidence? What am I gauging in
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: terms of credibility? I did Some sex offender cases, when
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: I was a state prosecutor, I handled some. They're difficult cases.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: And there's not that many of them that are kind
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: of like stranger in the bushes who attacks in front
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: of witnesses and ring cameras and leaves DNA. There's a
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: lot of them that have nuance to them. And this
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: one certainly has a lot of issues, I mean, including
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: her reaction immediately afterwards. You know, we've gotten used to,
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: I think, delayed reporting situations. We kind of better understand
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: that 1950s America is, that there's reasons why a woman
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: might not want to come forward immediately. But this is
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: kind of different. This is coming forward with inconsistency. This
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: is saying I consented to a three-way and everything's fine
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: and having text messages with the guys afterwards that seem comfortable.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: Roommates saying the day after she never talked about being
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: a victim of anything. And again, I'm not prejudging it
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: at all because I don't know all the nooks and
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: crannies of this case by a long shot. But when
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: you have to prove a case beyond a reasonable doubt,
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: each one of these moments, including the fact that she sued,
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: all of those are things that did affect credibility. And
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: you have to look at it and not just decide,
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: do I charge it because that's politically expedient?
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: Maybe I'm going to lose, but who cares? Or do
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: you do the right thing?
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: This thing, from my perspective, with the combination of it
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: being a very challenging, maybe impossible case to prove, maybe,
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: and a prejudging prosecutor who uses the word you said, unacceptable. Well,
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: When she says unacceptable, that means status quo is not
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: acceptable and status quo is nobody's been charged. So she's
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: basically announcing I am going to charge people. I think
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: we're heading towards like a Duke lacrosse scandal. You know,
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: the Duke lacrosse team. What was that? 20 years ago,
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: Mike Nafong was the prosecutor. He knew that they were innocent.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: He had confirmed in his mind through evidence and through recantations.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: and through prior false claims by the victim that this
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: was not a real case. But he sat on it
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: and let those guys twist in the wind because nobody
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: liked them because they were affluent white kids at Duke.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: And they twisted in the wind so he could get
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: through a primary election without alienating the African-American voters. And
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: so we don't have the exact same dynamic in terms
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: of motivation to kind of overcharge and hide evidence. But
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: she's the most unethical prosecutor I've seen in recent years.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: So The idea that she's going to give these guys
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: a fair shake is borderline ridiculous. And my hope is that,
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: you know, anybody that gets charged, if it comes to that,
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: really gets the right kind of judge to pierce the
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: curtain and look behind the scenes and figure out how
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: much stuff has Letitia ignored, how much has she not
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: turned over. What's her motivation here? But this is the
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: consequence of getting politicians that pretend to be fair-minded prosecutors.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: She's not.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: And it causes harm to people. And it probably even
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: sets up a lot of harm for this complainant, for
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: the young woman. Like if she starts believing Letitia James
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: that this is a righteous case and it either gets
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: knocked out on motions or found not guilty 12-0 quickly,
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: that's not a great experience for her to have gone through.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: And it was avoidable if you had a responsible prosecutor.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Well, and this is one of those cases where it
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: is you have to really understand and you have to
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: be prepared to go out there and destroy people's lives,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: because on either side, you've got the court of public opinion.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: So you're either destroying her life or you're destroying the
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: boy's lives. If somebody if there is no one that
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: is truly guilty here. I mean, one person will be guilty.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Either she's guilty of lying or they are guilty of
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: a horrific offense of gang rape. This is a it's
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: a very hard situation because we do know about the
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Duke situation. We look back at that and we go,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: there can be nothing worse than a false accusation that
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: ruins your life. Right.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: But, you know, and let me just give the caveat
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: that we've kind of glossed over. I don't have anything
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: but moral blame for these young men, honestly. I mean,
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: I've got three daughters. I think about, you know, what
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: their experiences were like in college and the idea that
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: even if it's not criminal, that they took advantage of
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: this sophomore and they treated her as a piece of meat.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: in kind of a horrific way, in a braggadocio way. Like,
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: there's no doubt that there's room to forever criticize these
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: young men and wonder, like, where are the women in
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: your life that you would participate in this kind of stuff?
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Like, do you have a sister?
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: Can you imagine it happening within your family? And this
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: young woman is going to be damaged, you know, in
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: a horrific way for many, many years. I have no
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: doubt that she is harmed and that these guys deserve
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: every bit of scorn that we should throw on them.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: I know they're young. but they were in control of
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: the situation. And so they did some terrible things. But
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: that doesn't translate into criminal prosecution. That doesn't make it
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: a case that's provable beyond a reasonable doubt. And I
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: think as a society, and particularly with these politicized prosecutors,
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: we're seeing more and more people that make a snap
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: judgment on cases based on political worldview. Like, you men
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: don't understand postpartum depression, so Ms. Clancy must be not
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: guilty by insanity. Or These men did something terrible to
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: a young woman. She's calling it rape, so she must
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: be right. Like, we're making these kind of snap decisions
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: by sometimes prosecutors, certainly by politicians. I mean, you can
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: go to New York and look at a mayor and say, oh,
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: there was a.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Shooting by ICE.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: They're evil murderers without even the dust settling yet, right?
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: So I hate that whole trend. I mean, forgive me
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: for getting on the soapbox. But, you know, that's a
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: trend that is bothersome, and I think we're going to
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: see it play out vividly with Letitia James.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: No, I'll just say that I've thought a lot about
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: this case from the standpoint of from a political standpoint
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: and what an immoral standpoint of what are we teaching
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: our children? Like exactly your point. How do we get here?
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Because I have four daughters and they're my oldest is
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: a senior and she's going to college next year. So
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: I've thought about this in great detail. Like, how did
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: we get here where this is acceptable? Is it the
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Bonnie Blues of the world that go out and do
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: videos having kids? men come line up to have sex
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: with her. I mean, how did we get here? But
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: I will tell you, just a side note, when I
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: was running for office, I had multiple reporters say to me,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: do you believe in comprehensive sex education? And comprehensive sex
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: education includes teaching kids how to get pleasure out of
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: sex in high school. And I do think that that
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: is inappropriate and And that starts this trajectory of sex
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: being so critical, such a big part of your life,
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: and having no emotional connection to it. It does concern
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: me that this is something that is coming out of
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: our government because it's going into our schools. I know
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: that's out of your purview, but I just think there
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: is a time when we should say as a society,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: we should look at morality and try to bring morality
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: back to protect women and men.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, let me just give you a two-hour response about
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  Speaker 3: our education system.
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  Speaker 2: No, and actually, let me back up. You know, you
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  Speaker 2: have four daughters, I have three.
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  Speaker 3: We need $ 100, 000 caps on our credit cards, but we'll
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: take that up.
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  Speaker 2: With Visa later.
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  Speaker 3: So look, I mean, you know, on the score, I
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  Speaker 3: think you're actually understating it. I mean, I'm sitting here
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  Speaker 3: in the People's Republic of Montgomery County, Maryland. They have
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  Speaker 3: literally fought to the Supreme Court to allow themselves to
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  Speaker 3: read outrageously provocative sexual-based books to kids as young as kindergartners.
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  Speaker 3: They had it in the curriculum as part of this
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  Speaker 3: comprehensive sex ed.
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  Speaker 2: It got tossed.
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  Speaker 3: So they said, well, we're just going to make it
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  Speaker 3: part of the literature to have books about Heather's two
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  Speaker 3: daddies or Susie's actually a boy. I mean, literally, these
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  Speaker 3: are almost the titles of these things. And they even
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  Speaker 3: teach the teachers here to push back. If a kid says,
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  Speaker 3: why would he have two moms or why would he
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  Speaker 3: have two dads?
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  Speaker 2: You're supposed to say you're being hurtful, junior.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, they literally teach them to ostracize a kid
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  Speaker 3: who might accidentally express traditional values. They fight this at
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  Speaker 3: the taxpayer's expense, paying big law firms $ 2, 000 an hour,
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: all the way to the Supreme Court before losing. And
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: so we have some really... And by the way, they
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  Speaker 3: brought together the weirdest coalition of people ever. You can imagine,
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: not weird people, but weird combination. You had Muslims, you
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: had Eastern Orthodox, you had Catholics, and they all came
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: together and said... you know, this school system's out of control.
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  Speaker 3: They're spending time with kindergartners indoctrinating them to like trans agenda.
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  Speaker 3: And the reality is, if you looked at our schools,
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  Speaker 3: and I swear I won't make it two hours, if
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: you look at our schools, it's like, how about a
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: little civics? How about a little American history? How about
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: a little American exceptionalism? How about some basic English? And,
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: you know, all that stuff falls to the wayside for
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: political indoctrination. And it's It's reaping results. I mean, you
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: look around in places like where I am and perhaps
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  Speaker 3: Michigan and Massachusetts and New York, and there's suddenly like
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  Speaker 3: this complete absence of historical knowledge where they'd consider communism
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  Speaker 3: an OK alternative. So anyway, that's my soapbox. I'll step
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  Speaker 3: back before I run out of time with you.
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  Speaker 2: But now I'm with you.
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  Speaker 1: I could also go.
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  Speaker 2: To reinvent our educational system.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I could also go on about that. And I'll
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: just say that there's been information lately where there's a
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  Speaker 1: traditional movie out and people and the Hollywood is kind
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  Speaker 1: of like going against the fact that this movie has
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  Speaker 1: traditional values. And yet it's doing great. Also, the every
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: year at the holidays when car cars. car dealership or
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: car companies and other companies come out with a traditional
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  Speaker 1: family commercial, they are welcomed. People like those values. It
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  Speaker 1: is okay to have those values. We do not have
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  Speaker 1: to teach our kids to disrespect their own bodies because
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  Speaker 1: that's the cool thing to do. So that's my soapbox.
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  Speaker 1: It's been hard for me to watch. I will tell
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  Speaker 1: you that just our own community, we had a kid
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  Speaker 1: that switched over to the Christian school last year, and
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: I talked to their mom, and they told me it
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: was terrible. nothing but sex and drugs, and their child
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: came to them and said, I need to move out
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  Speaker 1: of the school because it's so out of control. And
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: that is a conservative area. I mean, there is something
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  Speaker 1: happening in our public schools, and it's time for us
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: to treat kids like kids. And I will stop now.
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  Speaker 1: But I appreciate you so much, and you've given us
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  Speaker 1: so much information today. It was a great interview. Thank
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: you so much. Jim, trustee, thanks for being here today.
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  Speaker 4: Sure.
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  Speaker 2: Great to join you. Thanks.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Thank you. And thank you all. Stay tuned. We'll be
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: right back after this. Thank you all for tuning in today.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Make sure you come back on Monday to get the
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: real story on data centers. We're just days away from
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: election day. And it felt like election day was never coming.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is like, feels like the longest election
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  Speaker 1: season ever. But Data centers have been a huge issue
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: in this election. So we're going to find out, are
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: they as bad as they're being made out to be?
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: Is there a different story here? Mark Mills will be
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: here to explain whether this should be a deciding factor
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: for you on November 3rd. And you don't want to
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: miss it. This could be a major topic in some
• 38:29
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• 38:31
  Speaker 1: you have to vote. It is so critical in these elections.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: As you look at the different races, Tallarico, Abdul El-Sayed,
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: all of these characters, Will Lawrence, these people who are
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: very dangerous to the country. We have got to make
• 38:47
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• 38:53
  Speaker 1: out the facts. about these data centers, how they run,
• 38:56
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