Latest / Anele and the Club on 947 / Nyala O's Mapaseka Koetle, Motlatsi Mafatshe and Tsholofelo Matshaba in studio
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Wake up with a bang.
- 0:02Speaker 2: Hey, wake up! Anele and the club on 947.
- 0:05Speaker 3: The blessings of marriage.
- 0:13Speaker 4: The blessings of marriage.
- 0:15Speaker 1: I gave him everything, but I guess.
- 0:19Speaker 5: I wasn't enough.
- 0:21Speaker 6: 15 years of marriage.
- 0:22Speaker 2: Just like that.
- 0:23Speaker 7: I will always choose you.
- 0:30Speaker 2: I don't even know myself anymore.
- 0:32Speaker 5: I gave myself up completely.
- 0:35Speaker 2: I don't remember when was the last time my husband
- 0:38Speaker 2: saw me. End my worth.
- 0:46Speaker 6: I have had to keep myself calm ever since I
- 0:49Speaker 6: heard that they're going to come onto the show.
- 0:51Speaker 1: Yes.
- 0:51Speaker 6: And every now and then I'm like, oh, is the
- 0:53Speaker 6: interview tomorrow? The team's like, no, Anela, calm down.
- 0:56Speaker 8: Relax.
- 0:56Speaker 2: It's only happening next week. And next week is now.
- 0:59Speaker 9: Oh, my God.
- 0:59Speaker 6: The cast of Nyala O is in the building.
- 1:05Speaker 2: And with that, her composure has left the building.
- 1:10Speaker 6: Firstly, we just want to say thank you so much
- 1:12Speaker 6: to Brighton Co. They're the ones that gave us the
- 1:14Speaker 6: wedding dresses. We did a nice little welcome for you guys.
- 1:17Speaker 2: See you guys. How was the welcome? It was epic.
- 1:20Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. It was awesome. That was awesome. We
- 1:24Speaker 2: got married again.
- 1:25Speaker 10: You know, baby.
- 1:26Speaker 2: Yes.
- 1:27Speaker 6: Y'all better keep quiet. We're coming to you guys. And
- 1:30Speaker 6: your scam of a marriage.
- 1:32Speaker 3: I have to say, so you walked in one day
- 1:35Speaker 3: and you said, there's this new show. There's this new show, right?
- 1:38Speaker 3: Then it went from, I binge watched it to, I'm
- 1:41Speaker 3: banking it because I can't watch everything in one go.
- 1:45Speaker 1: You can't watch Dave. Everything must be together.
- 1:48Speaker 3: We started raving about this until it got to the
- 1:50Speaker 3: point where you said, Anneli said she wants to be
- 1:52Speaker 3: part of the show.
- 1:53Speaker 7: Yes.
- 1:54Speaker 1: And she was trying to get into the show. I
- 1:56Speaker 1: don't know.
- 1:56Speaker 6: Then I was calling multi-choice. I was like, how far
- 1:59Speaker 6: ahead do you guys shoot?
- 2:00Speaker 2: Can I just walk in the background? Can I deliver scones?
- 2:05Speaker 2: I will do anything.
- 2:06Speaker 6: Can I sell a funeral policy because somebody's going to die?
- 2:11Speaker 6: Somebody's going to die. Mutazi, we've got... I know I
- 2:14Speaker 6: must call you your real name, but to me, you
- 2:16Speaker 6: are Kia, girl.
- 2:18Speaker 7: I can be Kia for now.
- 2:19Speaker 2: Please, can you be Kia?
- 2:21Speaker 6: And then we've got our resident money misspender.
- 2:26Speaker 1: Yes.
- 2:27Speaker 11: Hello.
- 2:30Speaker 2: Hello, Tulu. Guys, welcome.
- 2:32Speaker 6: Rami, Aman, I have to start with you because that
- 2:35Speaker 6: is your character name.
- 2:36Speaker 2: My guy, what's wrong with you?
- 2:38Speaker 4: I mean, he's a lover of life, lover of ladies,
- 2:41Speaker 4: two ladies, two women. And I mean, there's nothing wrong.
- 2:44Speaker 4: I think he wants to expand his family. He's just
- 2:48Speaker 4: scared to do it because he's scared of his wife,
- 2:50Speaker 4: I think.
- 2:51Speaker 2: However, he knows how she's going to react.
- 2:54Speaker 1: So he's like, let's rock and roll.
- 2:56Speaker 10: Wow.
- 2:57Speaker 2: So bonapambili.
- 2:58Speaker 6: Okay, but I want to go back to the time
- 3:00Speaker 6: where you were dating pretty, right? Because laterally you were
- 3:04Speaker 6: dating pretty. Firstly, she is a tall glass of water.
- 3:07Speaker 6: I don't know how you guys started dating. She is
- 3:10Speaker 6: so tall and Rami is short. Every time they're standing together,
- 3:14Speaker 6: he has to stand on a hill. Maybe she had
- 3:16Speaker 6: to scoop him up. I actually think that's the woman
- 3:20Speaker 6: you're scared of.
- 3:21Speaker 4: Look um he really loves pretty right um i love
- 3:26Speaker 4: you pretty yeah i love you pretty but but but
- 3:30Speaker 4: kia is just a special bomb she's like incredible she's
- 3:34Speaker 4: fun she's organized you know she's a hard worker um
- 3:39Speaker 4: and so he sees a bright future with her but
- 3:41Speaker 4: he also wants to keep the past with with pretty.
- 3:45Speaker 6: Can I tell you something about both of you guys
- 3:47Speaker 6: as a couple that's on TV? Because you always want
- 3:49Speaker 6: to ask yourself, when couples are that, like, magnetic on TV, like,
- 3:53Speaker 6: what conversations did you have to build the chemistry? Because
- 3:56Speaker 6: you have to portray a chemistry that we as the
- 3:59Speaker 6: viewer feel like it's.
- 4:00Speaker 2: A 15-year-old chemistry, right?
- 4:02Speaker 6: So I want to ask you, like, What conversations did
- 4:06Speaker 6: you two have to make sure that that chemistry is there?
- 4:09Speaker 6: Because even when you guys are fighting, there is chemistry.
- 4:12Speaker 6: That's why we root for you as viewers. Because the
- 4:14Speaker 6: way you look at him and you're just angry. And
- 4:16Speaker 6: you're like, don't talk to him.
- 4:20Speaker 12: Yeah, I think it started the day we had a
- 4:22Speaker 12: chemistry read together when we were auditioning. I remember I
- 4:25Speaker 12: did a chemistry read with different guys. But when I
- 4:27Speaker 12: did it with him, I think he got the note,
- 4:29Speaker 12: the note you're talking about. We've been together for 15 years.
- 4:32Speaker 12: He's not trying to charm me.
- 4:34Speaker 7: We know each other.
- 4:35Speaker 12: So the conversation we had when we went for the
- 4:37Speaker 12: chemistry read, we were like, we have to get this.
- 4:39Speaker 2: We have to.
- 4:40Speaker 7: And we're friends as well.
- 4:43Speaker 2: Oh, it was an inside job. Yeah. And look, we've
- 4:46Speaker 2: never worked before.
- 4:48Speaker 1: And we've been in the industry for quite some time.
- 4:51Speaker 1: So we're like, ah, let's rock.
- 4:52Speaker 4: This would be a great opportunity to just do something
- 4:55Speaker 4: I think we can vibe.
- 4:56Speaker 1: And we just locked.
- 4:57Speaker 10: It worked.
- 4:58Speaker 2: Yeah, it did.
- 4:59Speaker 6: When do you find out who's on the cast? Because,
- 5:01Speaker 6: I mean, if I was doing a chemistry read or
- 5:04Speaker 6: a table setting and then I was told that Tulu
- 5:06Speaker 6: was going to be on.
- 5:07Speaker 2: The cast, I would melt into a puddle. Girl, you
- 5:11Speaker 2: are a legend. Tulu.
- 5:13Speaker 5: Thank you.
- 5:17Speaker 1: Guys, she blushes.
- 5:17Speaker 5: I feel like I'm just a baby for Pastor Gil.
- 5:20Speaker 10: Do you know, my earliest memory of Tulu was, maybe
- 5:23Speaker 10: this was 20 years ago, there were televised auditions, I
- 5:26Speaker 10: think it was for The Lion King.
- 5:27Speaker 13: Yes.
- 5:28Speaker 2: That's where I remember you from.
- 5:30Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 5:30Speaker 10: And I think it's the range, first of all, in
- 5:32Speaker 10: terms of the characters that you've played. And you wonder how, woman,
- 5:36Speaker 10: where do you dig all of.
- 5:37Speaker 1: This out of?
- 5:39Speaker 2: I also don't know.
- 5:42Speaker 6: But surely you have a process where you leave the
- 5:44Speaker 6: last roll behind to step into the new one.
- 5:47Speaker 2: No, absolutely.
- 5:48Speaker 5: I think that's where training also comes in handy, where
- 5:52Speaker 5: you take out those tools from your suitcase that you've
- 5:54Speaker 5: been packing from school, from varsity, and then throughout your career.
- 5:59Speaker 2: Because we learn every day.
- 6:01Speaker 5: From the last show that I was on, I also
- 6:04Speaker 5: packed some new tools that I'm now using for Mapula
- 6:08Speaker 5: at Nyala'u. So it's a never-ending process of learning how
- 6:12Speaker 5: to do things.
- 6:13Speaker 2: And now and then, well, especially for this show, for
- 6:16Speaker 2: me … I've.
- 6:17Speaker 5: Had to go back and actually do some reading on acting.
- 6:21Speaker 10: Oh, wow.
- 6:22Speaker 5: Because the show is dependent so much on subconscious messages.
- 6:29Speaker 5: So much less on the script. The script is there
- 6:33Speaker 5: and it's hot, thank God.
- 6:35Speaker 2: It's hot.
- 6:36Speaker 5: But the underlying messages and the underlying tones and how
- 6:42Speaker 5: the creative producer also explained how the show actually is
- 6:45Speaker 5: we are dealing with the moulds in our walls, in
- 6:49Speaker 5: our houses.
- 6:50Speaker 6: That slowly. That was going to be my next point.
- 6:53Speaker 6: I'm so glad because the show, it moves quickly. Like
- 6:58Speaker 6: the things that are happening.
- 6:59Speaker 2: Nothing lingers too long.
- 7:00Speaker 6: But itself, the pace is quite slow. It's like a
- 7:05Speaker 6: slow erosion, right?
- 7:08Speaker 2: Am I reading it right?
- 7:09Speaker 9: Yes, you are.
- 7:14Speaker 2: As with mold, it starts small.
- 7:17Speaker 5: And by the end of three months, it has now
- 7:19Speaker 5: made a pattern that you hadn't been noticing it, but
- 7:23Speaker 5: it's there now.
- 7:24Speaker 2: And that's where Ernest is. What? Who's this person now?
- 7:31Speaker 2: I'm going to bring you guys up to speed. Ernest
- 7:32Speaker 2: is her husband. She calls him Daddy. Daddy. She's got
- 7:37Speaker 2: Daddy in debt.
- 7:39Speaker 10: She doesn't want to sell her two designer coats or
- 7:41Speaker 10: her shoes.
- 7:42Speaker 1: Yesterday, she had a cry.
- 7:42Speaker 2: Yes, because she had to sell those braces. Girl, you broke.
- 7:47Speaker 2: She's running a rap scam, right?
- 7:49Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 7:49Speaker 6: And she's getting money somewhere dodgy. It's like some tender
- 7:52Speaker 6: details that are going dodgy. And her husband is just
- 7:54Speaker 6: trying to stop her from overspending. But what I love
- 7:57Speaker 6: about Mapula and Zaid is that we always think that
- 8:02Speaker 6: when people say we're going through marital problems, immediately we
- 8:04Speaker 6: think it's infidelity.
- 8:06Speaker 13: Right.
- 8:06Speaker 5: True.
- 8:07Speaker 6: But I've seen more marriages break down because of finances
- 8:10Speaker 6: more than infidelity.
- 8:11Speaker 2: So actually, you guys are the most dangerous ones.
- 8:13Speaker 6: Mm-hmm.
- 8:14Speaker 2: Really?
- 8:15Speaker 6: I think you guys are the most dangerous. Because there's
- 8:17Speaker 6: no romance, guys, when we can't afford each other.
- 8:21Speaker 2: There's no romance. I love you.
- 8:23Speaker 6: I can't love you.
- 8:26Speaker 2: I can't see you. We're in the dark.
- 8:29Speaker 5: She also doesn't feel so hot anymore because now she
- 8:31Speaker 5: has to ask for money. That independence has been stripped away.
- 8:36Speaker 5: So she feels less of a human being now because
- 8:39Speaker 5: she doesn't have her own. She has to ask for
- 8:42Speaker 5: each and every cent.
- 8:43Speaker 6: Because also, when you guys introduced us to you, you
- 8:49Speaker 6: acted like you had submitted to him.
- 8:51Speaker 2: But that was a fake submission. Because if you feel lesser.
- 8:54Speaker 6: Than having to ask for your husband for money, it
- 8:56Speaker 6: means you haven't fully submitted.
- 8:57Speaker 9: That's... Yes, I think money is Mapula's crutch.
- 9:09Speaker 2: Okay.
- 9:09Speaker 5: And it's not a crutch because of what's happening in
- 9:12Speaker 5: her marriage, but it's things that she comes up with
- 9:16Speaker 5: from her own life before she even met him.
- 9:19Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 9:19Speaker 5: So it's our life as siblings.
- 9:23Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 9:23Speaker 2: And that she's caring with. Yeah. The dark side of it.
- 9:28Speaker 10: But how has she surprised you? Because on paper, she's
- 9:31Speaker 10: not supposed to be likable, except she is.
- 9:33Speaker 2: Except she is, right? How does she surprise?
- 9:39Speaker 5: I think as Tula, I can't imagine as well doing that.
- 9:43Speaker 5: stealing from innocent people who actually need the money more
- 9:46Speaker 5: than she does.
- 9:47Speaker 2: She's got a good job. She's a lawyer. She's got
- 9:49Speaker 2: a good house.
- 9:49Speaker 5: She's got a good husband who takes care of her,
- 9:52Speaker 5: the entire family. He is a provider in all the
- 9:55Speaker 5: imaginable ways a provider is supposed to be.
- 9:57Speaker 2: She supports.
- 10:00Speaker 5: To not want for anything but she's become greedy you
- 10:04Speaker 5: know her problem has now escalated into other things And
- 10:09Speaker 5: every time I read a new story about her, I'm flabbergasted.
- 10:15Speaker 6: Babe, why does your husband wear orange suits the whole time?
- 10:18Speaker 7: You hate orange.
- 10:19Speaker 2: Babe, your office is orange.
- 10:21Speaker 7: I saw your tweets.
- 10:24Speaker 2: You know, some things we have no control over.
- 10:27Speaker 7: She hates orange. You hate my cushions?
- 10:29Speaker 1: Yes.
- 10:30Speaker 2: I hate your main bedroom.
- 10:32Speaker 6: Why?
- 10:33Speaker 7: Because it's purple?
- 10:34Speaker 9: Yes.
- 10:34Speaker 2: I'm just like, this is why you guys are fighting.
- 10:37Speaker 6: The colors are stimulating you guys.
- 10:42Speaker 3: I have to ask her. I mean, to complete the phrase,
- 10:45Speaker 3: I'm not a bad husband. I'm just a lover.
- 10:48Speaker 1: Just a lover.
- 10:49Speaker 10: Of life.
- 10:50Speaker 1: Of life or of woman? Of two women.
- 10:53Speaker 6: So do you think it's better that you're not cheating
- 10:56Speaker 6: on your wife with lots of women, but you just
- 10:58Speaker 6: stuck to one woman for 15 years?
- 11:01Speaker 4: I think it's better that way. Because, I mean, to him,
- 11:06Speaker 4: he's not cheating. He's taking care of the kids. He's
- 11:09Speaker 4: providing for two families.
- 11:11Speaker 1: Easy, baby.
- 11:12Speaker 5: All right, baby.
- 11:14Speaker 7: They went straight into character there.
- 11:16Speaker 1: But I mean, we've got two kids already.
- 11:17Speaker 6: It's too early.
- 11:17Speaker 7: To translate, don't drive me insane.
- 11:18Speaker 1: Don't drive me mad.
- 11:19Speaker 2: Also, he's a liar because this man kept two kids hidden.
- 11:21Speaker 2: He understated.
- 11:22Speaker 1: He understood that Kia was going to lose her mind.
- 11:40Speaker 7: And you know what just makes me angry?
- 11:42Speaker 1: Okay.
- 11:42Speaker 7: He denied his own hand. I showed him his hand.
- 11:46Speaker 2: On the phone? On the phone.
- 11:47Speaker 7: I'm like, this is the watch I bought you.
- 11:49Speaker 3: No, baby.
- 11:50Speaker 6: You see?
- 11:51Speaker 2: You see, baby?
- 11:52Speaker 4: There's AI.
- 11:53Speaker 6: Why me?
- 11:53Speaker 8: AI.
- 11:53Speaker 1: There's AI. You can just turn anything into someone.
- 11:58Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 11:59Speaker 12: But what I've noticed is that a lot of women
- 12:01Speaker 12: were very rooting for Gaya, right?
- 12:04Speaker 2: Yes, we were.
- 12:04Speaker 12: And then later on, because she decided to stay, women
- 12:07Speaker 12: are mad. And I realized that They see themselves in gaya.
- 12:11Speaker 12: Nobody wants to see themselves. And I understand why they
- 12:15Speaker 12: hate the fact that she's still gay.
- 12:17Speaker 7: We know a lot of gayas. It's not easy to
- 12:19Speaker 7: just leave.
- 12:20Speaker 12: Especially when you have plans. You know, like she had
- 12:22Speaker 12: a plan with the book. The book is written his rib-ish.
- 12:27Speaker 6: But also, I think the thing with a lot of women...
- 12:29Speaker 6: And this may be shallow, but shallow is true, guys.
- 12:32Speaker 6: We can't run from the truth. Is that sometimes you're like...
- 12:35Speaker 6: If I leave this man and I've built so much
- 12:37Speaker 6: with him... Somebody's just going to come in here, slip
- 12:39Speaker 6: in and.
- 12:39Speaker 2: Get a ready-made life.
- 12:40Speaker 7: And take over my cushions.
- 12:41Speaker 6: Do you know what.
- 12:45Speaker 2: I'm saying?
- 12:46Speaker 6: But I think the question we have to ask, and
- 12:49Speaker 6: I mean, please feel free to send us a voice
- 12:51Speaker 6: on 084-0000947 because that is what the show does. It
- 12:56Speaker 6: makes us ask questions about relationships, about.
- 12:58Speaker 2: Life as a whole.
- 13:00Speaker 6: Is it better to have a man who has one
- 13:02Speaker 6: other woman where they have, like, all this connection and
- 13:05Speaker 6: this emotion and these memories and kids and the family
- 13:08Speaker 6: knows the other woman or that he's just, like, randomly
- 13:12Speaker 6: hooking up with randoms at.
- 13:13Speaker 2: Saint on a Sunday?
- 13:14Speaker 1: Well, it's better to have two men, I say.
- 13:17Speaker 2: Oof.
- 13:17Speaker 13: Yes.
- 13:18Speaker 6: Oof. Yes.
- 13:18Speaker 2: Let's get into that.
- 13:20Speaker 6: Yes, yes, yes.
- 13:20Speaker 2: Because Rami would lose his mind. Easy, easy, easy. Any
- 13:24Speaker 2: of these women got another man. Oh, my word.
- 13:27Speaker 6: And then Tim Bigelow always teases me because I don't know.
- 13:28Speaker 2: How to say Nyala Owe. It's Nyala O. Nyala O.
- 13:32Speaker 2: Is it Nyala O or Nyala O? Nyala O.
- 13:35Speaker 6: Nyala O.
- 13:35Speaker 5: Because people tease me, they're like, oh, I'm a little ashamed.
- 13:38Speaker 5: It's because in your dialect, you don't say the O
- 13:40Speaker 5: like that. It's just like in English, you don't say
- 13:43Speaker 5: like O, O, like Tolo.
- 13:45Speaker 2: It's Tolo.
- 13:49Speaker 6: Because I get it, there's.
- 13:54Speaker 2: A fuller phrase which we can't say on the radio.
- 13:57Speaker 10: But it means, once you get married, it's equivalent to
- 13:59Speaker 10: being in the loo, mama.
- 14:04Speaker 1: The blessings of marriage.
- 14:08Speaker 4: The blessings of marriage.
- 14:11Speaker 7: I can't.
- 14:19Speaker 12: Years of marriage just like that i will always choose
- 14:22Speaker 12: you liar.
- 14:23Speaker 1: I don't even.
- 14:24Speaker 5: Know myself anymore i gave myself up completely i don't.
- 14:30Speaker 6: Remember when was the last time my husband saw.
- 14:33Speaker 2: Me and my worthless.
- 14:37Speaker 6: It is the latest sensation out of the DSTV community.
- 14:41Speaker 2: Nyala U. It plays on Monday.
- 14:44Speaker 6: To Wednesday at 7 o'clock on Mzantzi Magic. It is
- 14:47Speaker 6: shot so well. The color is so good. The grading
- 14:49Speaker 6: is so good. Whoever the DOP is with the angles
- 14:52Speaker 6: that they do for you guys. Just the shots themselves
- 15:02Speaker 6: are telling the scenes. And today we've got the cast
- 15:04Speaker 6: in studio.
- 15:05Speaker 3: I've got a question. I've got a question. All of
- 15:08Speaker 3: your characters, each of you can answer this individually. All
- 15:10Speaker 3: of your characters, firstly, have lots of struggles with the
- 15:13Speaker 3: people around them, right? And then also internal struggles. So
- 15:17Speaker 3: if you were your character's best friend, what advice would
- 15:22Speaker 3: you give them and would they listen?
- 15:26Speaker 1: Rami?
- 15:27Speaker 2: Rami, I would tell Rami to touch his temper. Be
- 15:30Speaker 2: honest about it.
- 15:31Speaker 4: Be honest about it and don't cheat. Just tell her
- 15:35Speaker 4: the truth and marry both of them and take care
- 15:38Speaker 4: of your families.
- 15:40Speaker 6: But you have financial problems that I feel are coming
- 15:42Speaker 6: to the front soon and soon and very soon.
- 15:45Speaker 4: Not really.
- 15:49Speaker 6: Because she asked for a baby and you said, no,
- 15:54Speaker 6: there's no money.
- 15:55Speaker 1: But it's just excuses.
- 15:57Speaker 10: Oh.
- 15:58Speaker 4: You know, I mean, it's, yeah, I think he doesn't
- 16:01Speaker 4: want another baby. But he wants a family. He wants
- 16:04Speaker 4: to have two families and take care of. So that
- 16:08Speaker 4: when Kia is giving him grief, he's.
- 16:12Speaker 2: Able to rest. Go to the hood.
- 16:13Speaker 4: You understand, the hood is nice when there's problems in
- 16:17Speaker 4: the pubs.
- 16:17Speaker 2: Rami is like a farm club.
- 16:19Speaker 7: Yeah. I agree.
- 16:22Speaker 6: I think it was the first bit of anger I
- 16:24Speaker 6: felt towards you as a viewer watching you that like,
- 16:27Speaker 6: how do you deny your wife another child but you've
- 16:30Speaker 6: got two children with your mistress?
- 16:32Speaker 4: Look, I think Rami is very controlling. Subliminally so. He's
- 16:38Speaker 4: got this, he's a, yeah, I think, yeah, he's controlling.
- 16:45Speaker 1: What's the word? What's that word? We always use it
- 16:48Speaker 1: on set.
- 16:49Speaker 2: Manipulative. He's very manipulative.
- 16:52Speaker 9: Okay.
- 16:53Speaker 1: And he love bombs, you know.
- 16:56Speaker 10: Yes.
- 16:56Speaker 4: And so I think he's got issues, probably got issues
- 16:59Speaker 4: from his mom and dad.
- 17:01Speaker 1: I love bombs.
- 17:02Speaker 4: And we see it through the way he treats Kia
- 17:05Speaker 4: and Pretty.
- 17:07Speaker 1: So he wouldn't listen. That's the advice you'd give him,
- 17:09Speaker 1: but he wouldn't listen.
- 17:10Speaker 2: He wouldn't listen because he's afraid of Gia.
- 17:12Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 17:13Speaker 2: Afraid of her or afraid of losing her?
- 17:15Speaker 1: Afraid of losing her.
- 17:16Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
- 17:17Speaker 9: And you?
- 17:18Speaker 12: I think I would tell Gia to leave. My sister
- 17:24Speaker 12: is not working out. Or fully forgive him. Because I
- 17:27Speaker 12: feel like she's torturing herself by policing him and checking
- 17:31Speaker 12: his phone and all of that.
- 17:32Speaker 7: It's either you leave or stay and forgive him fully.
- 17:35Speaker 6: But you can't fully forgive him when you don't know
- 17:36Speaker 6: the full story. Because he also releases the nonsense every episode.
- 17:40Speaker 2: Learning something new.
- 17:41Speaker 7: Something new, yeah.
- 17:41Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
- 17:42Speaker 6: Why is he not being honest when he does go
- 17:44Speaker 6: to Timbisa to see the other family?
- 17:45Speaker 7: To see the other family, yeah.
- 17:46Speaker 6: He acts like he's going to his mom, but he's
- 17:47Speaker 6: going to his mistress. He also must be honest.
- 17:49Speaker 7: She must go. And I don't think she would listen.
- 17:51Speaker 1: She wouldn't listen, eh?
- 17:52Speaker 7: She wouldn't listen.
- 17:53Speaker 2: She's just like... Will she fully forgive him?
- 17:56Speaker 7: I don't think so.
- 17:56Speaker 2: No, she won't.
- 17:57Speaker 6: Because 15... Guys, you know what it's like to find out, eh?
- 18:00Speaker 2: Yeah. You keep on playing it in your head.
- 18:02Speaker 6: It's like, oh, so and when you said you were
- 18:03Speaker 6: going to four ways, actually.
- 18:04Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm saying? And it's just like
- 18:06Speaker 2: it's so poison.
- 18:07Speaker 7: Yes, it is.
- 18:08Speaker 12: And I think also she's... I've realized that she's also
- 18:10Speaker 12: making me tired, as my dad said.
- 18:12Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 18:13Speaker 7: I don't know if I'm making sense.
- 18:14Speaker 8: I'm tired.
- 18:14Speaker 1: Because she's forever.
- 18:16Speaker 7: In your feels. I'm struggling to get out of it.
- 18:19Speaker 7: I'm so emotional.
- 18:20Speaker 12: Sometimes I don't get out of it immediately because she's
- 18:23Speaker 12: really going through the most. Even like a simple scene
- 18:25Speaker 12: of just her sitting by herself. I can't help it,
- 18:28Speaker 12: but feel sorry for her. And then the tears just come.
- 18:30Speaker 12: So I'm exhausted because I feel like, yeah, she's really.
- 18:34Speaker 7: Going through the most. I don't want to lie. I
- 18:35Speaker 7: need a hug.
- 18:37Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 18:37Speaker 1: Well, you can understand if you find out. 15 years.
- 18:40Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 18:40Speaker 7: 15 years.
- 18:41Speaker 1: 15 years, yeah. That's a lifetime.
- 18:44Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 18:44Speaker 6: And can you imagine you're acting some woman right now
- 18:48Speaker 6: at this moment. Yes.
- 18:49Speaker 2: They're going through it.
- 18:50Speaker 10: You guys are such poor investigators. You can't lie to
- 18:53Speaker 10: me for a month.
- 18:54Speaker 2: 15 years.
- 18:54Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 18:56Speaker 2: I would have to be in a coma.
- 18:57Speaker 1: I am catching that man.
- 19:00Speaker 10: Because one thing I'm going to do is I'm going
- 19:02Speaker 10: to look at the pattern and be like, because my
- 19:03Speaker 10: thing with Kia was like, girl, are you slow?
- 19:06Speaker 2: Look at the material.
- 19:07Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 19:08Speaker 1: It just wasn't adding up. Do you know what I mean?
- 19:10Speaker 12: Yeah. And I think she really trusted him. That's why
- 19:13Speaker 12: she thought this is not real. That's why it took
- 19:15Speaker 12: her a few days for her to even confront him
- 19:18Speaker 12: about it because she couldn't believe.
- 19:20Speaker 9: Yeah.
- 19:22Speaker 5: I would tell Mapula to go to therapy.
- 19:27Speaker 10: Oh.
- 19:27Speaker 9: Yeah.
- 19:28Speaker 2: That's what she needs.
- 19:29Speaker 1: Deal with your shopping addiction.
- 19:31Speaker 7: Yes.
- 19:32Speaker 6: Because clearly your shopping is trying to guide something else. Yes.
- 19:36Speaker 2: Avoid.
- 19:37Speaker 11: Avoid. Yeah.
- 19:38Speaker 6: Are we ever going to find out what happened in
- 19:40Speaker 6: her past?
- 19:40Speaker 2: Yes. Okay. Oh, that's coming.
- 19:42Speaker 3: Yes.
- 19:43Speaker 2: Oh, I don't think I'm ready.
- 19:45Speaker 10: Did we get a clue from her conversation with her
- 19:47Speaker 10: dad last night? because it took an interesting direction don't tell.
- 19:50Speaker 6: Me I didn't watch last night I won't tell you
- 19:52Speaker 6: but I got a sense last night that We're finally
- 19:56Speaker 6: going to see why she is the way she is. Yes.
- 19:59Speaker 5: And even her husband, Ernest, yes, he went straight to
- 20:03Speaker 5: the internet to try and see what is this with
- 20:07Speaker 5: the spending.
- 20:08Speaker 3: Okay.
- 20:08Speaker 6: Yes.
- 20:09Speaker 2: And he also suggested therapy. But you don't have daddy issues.
- 20:15Speaker 1: We're going to find out. I think we'll find out.
- 20:16Speaker 5: Yes and no.
- 20:17Speaker 2: Yeah. Yes and no. You know wives that call their
- 20:20Speaker 2: husbands daddy. Hey.
- 20:21Speaker 11: Yeah.
- 20:21Speaker 7: No.
- 20:23Speaker 2: It's weird for me.
- 20:24Speaker 5: I don't know if I should say it's a daddy
- 20:25Speaker 5: issue because the issue was not because of daddy necessarily.
- 20:30Speaker 2: I mean the father. Okay.
- 20:31Speaker 9: Yeah.
- 20:33Speaker 7: I think she has mommy issues.
- 20:36Speaker 12: Yeah which is which the story will unfold about our mother.
- 20:39Speaker 2: Oh yeah because where.
- 20:40Speaker 13: Is she where is she yeah and the moms on
- 20:43Speaker 13: this show are good eh so I want to see
- 20:44Speaker 13: a mother right I mean Stingy Lena Tangala and Elizabeth
- 20:48Speaker 13: Zirunye I'm like yes she's amazing Amazing.
- 20:52Speaker 2: And you know what it is?
- 20:53Speaker 6: They seldom in the same scene but you can feel that.
- 20:56Speaker 2: You can feel the way they control everything.
- 20:58Speaker 6: There's a push and pull but I think it's going
- 21:00Speaker 6: to get to a point where they go head on
- 21:02Speaker 6: and then hip hopers will dance.
- 21:03Speaker 12: But also lastly, I think what I've learned is that
- 21:06Speaker 12: mother-in-law is not your mom at the end of the day.
- 21:09Speaker 2: Oh, never.
- 21:10Speaker 7: She might love you and like you but she's not
- 21:12Speaker 7: your mother.
- 21:12Speaker 2: She loves her son.
- 21:13Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 21:14Speaker 2: And she's going to do everything to protect her son.
- 21:16Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 21:16Speaker 4: And as a mother, you always really take care of
- 21:18Speaker 4: your children no matter how Older they are and wherever
- 21:22Speaker 4: they go.
- 21:22Speaker 1: Especially sons.
- 21:24Speaker 2: It is what it is.
- 21:25Speaker 1: Especially sons.
- 21:25Speaker 3: Especially sons. The mum will always take the son's side,
- 21:29Speaker 3: even if he's wrong.
- 21:30Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 21:31Speaker 2: I see it in myself sometimes. Exactly.
- 21:35Speaker 6: I agree. Like, I try to be strict with Allah,
- 21:37Speaker 6: but he's just so charming.
- 21:39Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly.
- 21:41Speaker 6: Mummy. Yeah, that's me.
- 21:44Speaker 2: Yes, the voice note. Hi, Tulu. I missed you on
- 21:49Speaker 2: my screens, babe.
- 21:51Speaker 7: I will, but now Mrs. Ramrams needs to decide whether
- 21:55Speaker 7: she's coming or going. You are mad if he's going,
- 21:58Speaker 7: you are mad if he's staying. Which one do you want?
- 22:02Speaker 11: Yeah.
- 22:02Speaker 2: Okay, yeah.
- 22:04Speaker 7: Both.
- 22:05Speaker 2: Do you know what?
- 22:06Speaker 6: Because when I was watching you, when you went to
- 22:07Speaker 6: go get him at his mom's house, when he was
- 22:09Speaker 6: sitting on those couches from Bradlow's.
- 22:11Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
- 22:14Speaker 13: I was like, I know those countries.
- 22:20Speaker 6: I was like, the fear, you're angry at him now
- 22:23Speaker 6: because you found out he's been cheating for 15 years.
- 22:25Speaker 6: But the fear with him not sleeping at home is like,
- 22:27Speaker 6: where is this sleeping? Because you know the mom's going
- 22:30Speaker 6: to cover for him. So you were actually just going
- 22:31Speaker 6: to the mom's house to see that he's there.
- 22:33Speaker 2: And then when you were there, you actually realized, you
- 22:35Speaker 2: know what?
- 22:35Speaker 6: Come back home because I need to police you from home.
- 22:38Speaker 6: Because I lived with you for 15 years and I
- 22:40Speaker 6: didn't know you were getting up to nonsense.
- 22:42Speaker 2: Who matters? Us women, guys.
- 22:43Speaker 7: Yeah, we go through a lot.
- 22:44Speaker 2: We honestly go through a lot.
- 22:46Speaker 6: There is a clip that has been going around on
- 22:47Speaker 6: social media and it's gotten people, you know, divided in the,
- 22:52Speaker 6: you know, the validity of this claim that this man
- 22:54Speaker 6: is making. And to me, it was like, oh, like, okay,
- 22:56Speaker 6: it's interesting. And then I believed him because he was
- 22:58Speaker 6: so convincing. And then people were like, no, he's lying.
- 23:01Speaker 2: So I want us to discuss it as the cast.
- 23:03Speaker 2: I'm counting myself. As the cast of Nyala O. Here,
- 23:08Speaker 2: have a listen.
- 23:09Speaker 1: Umako Oti.
- 23:10Speaker 5: Right.
- 23:11Speaker 8: The word Umako Oti is not Xhosa. It's not Zulu,
- 23:15Speaker 8: it's not Soto, it's not Tshwana, it's not Shangan, it's
- 23:19Speaker 8: not Venda. It's Africans.
- 23:22Speaker 2: Mark on steer.
- 23:24Speaker 8: Now the whole conception of Ukukoti Zanomakoti comes from the
- 23:30Speaker 8: etymology mark on steer. You are now arguing an African's
- 23:37Speaker 8: innovation strategy. in an African culture that did not exist anymore.
- 23:42Speaker 8: Ask me what Umakoti is, Ngesikos.
- 23:46Speaker 1: Mfaz.
- 23:47Speaker 2: What is it?
- 23:48Speaker 1: Gumolo Kazana.
- 23:51Speaker 2: She is the ambassador, chief ambassador.
- 23:55Speaker 8: Chief spokesperson, CEO of this household. Before you can enter
- 24:08Speaker 8: this home, respect this woman.
- 24:11Speaker 1: That is culture.
- 24:13Speaker 2: We are going to weigh in on that.
- 24:14Speaker 6: We're going to take a quick break. I'm going to
- 24:15Speaker 6: let the cause of Nyala kind of like, you know,
- 24:17Speaker 6: simmer and percolate in that. When we come back, is
- 24:20Speaker 6: he telling the truth?
- 24:21Speaker 2: Because he's convincing. He's spot on. He is.
- 24:24Speaker 9: Oh, okay.
- 24:25Speaker 2: I think he is. Okay, we won't discuss it. You know,
- 24:34Speaker 2: when that song plays, we are just.
- 24:35Speaker 7: So happy here.
- 24:38Speaker 6: It reminds us of the best times of our lives
- 24:41Speaker 6: because that's what weddings are, right? Weddings represent families coming together.
- 24:47Speaker 6: Weddings represent expansion. And families back then, with what I
- 24:51Speaker 6: believe marriage is, was to strengthen. Strengthen ties, strengthen economic power.
- 24:56Speaker 6: You know, strengthen longevity, strengthen legacy. Where do we lose it, Tulu? Because,
- 25:03Speaker 6: you know, like they say, people who are unhappy in
- 25:06Speaker 6: marriages are louder than those who are happy in marriages.
- 25:08Speaker 2: Where do we lose it? Marrying for the wrong reasons.
- 25:13Speaker 2: Marrying wrong people. And when you.
- 25:16Speaker 5: Do marry the wrong person, it wasn't.
- 25:18Speaker 2: Apparent the day you realized.
- 25:21Speaker 13: You knew.
- 25:22Speaker 5: But we always want to see less of the red
- 25:26Speaker 5: flag as red.
- 25:27Speaker 2: We want to see it as pink or as purple.
- 25:30Speaker 2: It's going to change. Yeah, it's going to change. Yes.
- 25:36Speaker 12: I think for me, because I'm a return soldier, I
- 25:38Speaker 12: was married before. I think For me, I'll talk about
- 25:43Speaker 12: my own experience. Thinking that you are marrying a person
- 25:47Speaker 12: and forgetting that you're marrying into a family. That was my...
- 25:51Speaker 12: I didn't understand it because also I was very young.
- 25:53Speaker 8: I was 22.
- 25:53Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 25:54Speaker 2: So I didn't.
- 25:55Speaker 12: Know that you're actually marrying into a family. You're not
- 25:58Speaker 12: just marrying your husband.
- 26:00Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 26:00Speaker 12: So understanding that, that you are marrying the entire family.
- 26:03Speaker 12: Like you said, marriages these days, we think that they
- 26:06Speaker 12: are broken because of cheating and stuff. There's so many things.
- 26:09Speaker 12: And especially... Money and family.
- 26:11Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 26:12Speaker 7: So I think we're losing that.
- 26:14Speaker 12: And that's one lesson I learned from my own divorce
- 26:17Speaker 12: that I was not.
- 26:18Speaker 7: Marrying just my husband. I was marrying into a family.
- 26:21Speaker 12: And I should have taken my time to check if
- 26:23Speaker 12: I really want to get married into that family or not.
- 26:26Speaker 10: Yeah.
- 26:27Speaker 6: And the only person to protect you from that family
- 26:30Speaker 6: is the one.
- 26:30Speaker 2: That you're marrying.
- 26:31Speaker 6: But if he is one of them, the chances of
- 26:33Speaker 6: him taking your side are very slim.
- 26:35Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, I think.
- 26:39Speaker 4: I mean, the concept of getting married is actually about,
- 26:43Speaker 4: you have to accept the fact that you are learning
- 26:46Speaker 4: this person every day. I mean, you never know yourself
- 26:50Speaker 4: in general. I mean, you always develop, you always grow.
- 26:53Speaker 4: So getting married, you also have to accept the fact
- 26:57Speaker 4: that I have to learn this person all the time,
- 27:00Speaker 4: forgive him all the time, try to love them all
- 27:03Speaker 4: because it's not always rosy, right?
- 27:06Speaker 1: But you still need to choose them every day.
- 27:10Speaker 4: With their wrongs, with their rights. And, and, and, and
- 27:13Speaker 4: that's what I think we've lost. We've lost about the
- 27:17Speaker 4: institution of marriage. So we, we get married for, for
- 27:20Speaker 4: the house, the cars, the money, the status, the titles,
- 27:25Speaker 4: the titles. And then we forget about the, the, the,
- 27:27Speaker 4: the cause like the, the, You know, the gravity of marriage.
- 27:32Speaker 2: Every day. I think if there are conversations had with.
- 27:35Speaker 5: Our own families before we get into relationships even, to
- 27:40Speaker 5: make us aware of what we need to look forward
- 27:43Speaker 5: to or be aware of once you decide that you
- 27:47Speaker 5: want to get married. Those conversations that are not had
- 27:50Speaker 5: and we find them in marriage and they box us.
- 27:57Speaker 3: That's very deep but I want to say because the
- 28:00Speaker 3: conversation now has also been the other person the person
- 28:03Speaker 3: you're marrying I think not enough time is spent to
- 28:07Speaker 3: the point You've got to choose that person every day.
- 28:10Speaker 3: But I think not enough people spend the time to
- 28:12Speaker 3: make sure they know themselves first.
- 28:16Speaker 1: Because we always say you've got to choose someone every day.
- 28:19Speaker 1: You've got to love them every day.
- 28:20Speaker 3: But I think you've got to look at yourself every
- 28:23Speaker 3: day first and look how you love yourself and what
- 28:25Speaker 3: you are.
- 28:26Speaker 5: Franky, you keep this up.
- 28:34Speaker 10: Alexandra might lecture as their ward counsellor.
- 28:38Speaker 2: Keeps us out is going to do the vote of
- 28:41Speaker 2: things that we're doing. Okay, let's wrap it up with
- 28:42Speaker 2: that clip that I played for you guys.
- 28:44Speaker 6: Rami, what do you think?
- 28:45Speaker 2: Look, it is what it is. If you want the truth,
- 28:47Speaker 2: I think women.
- 28:48Speaker 11: Are The best, like they are magical.
- 29:03Speaker 4: They are the CEO of everything, right? And it's not
- 29:07Speaker 4: really about being a slave or.
- 29:09Speaker 6: No, no, no.
- 29:10Speaker 2: It's somebody who was able to nurture.
- 29:12Speaker 1: And take care.
- 29:14Speaker 4: And that is what makonstier means.
- 29:16Speaker 1: It's like, take care of us.
- 29:18Speaker 2: Netch us.
- 29:19Speaker 6: Right?
- 29:19Speaker 1: And so don't take it in another way. But it's
- 29:21Speaker 1: very correct.
- 29:22Speaker 6: Right?
- 29:23Speaker 1: Because.
- 29:23Speaker 2: She's ours.
- 29:24Speaker 4: And we sing.
- 29:29Speaker 1: These songs and we don't understand them. And when we
- 29:31Speaker 1: talk about them, then we get into our feels.
- 29:34Speaker 2: But it's back to.
- 29:35Speaker 6: What Tulu was saying about the conversations that we don't have,
- 29:38Speaker 6: you know, with our parents around makonstier.
- 29:40Speaker 2: And what it actually is.
- 29:41Speaker 6: Because most of us grew up in households where... the
- 29:45Speaker 6: joy was loud, but then the tension was very quiet,
- 29:48Speaker 6: but you could feel there was tension. And I think
- 29:50Speaker 6: that's where we even come from where we give our
- 29:52Speaker 6: partner silent treatment when you're unhappy because you never saw
- 29:55Speaker 6: your parents actually talk things out. You just saw that
- 29:58Speaker 6: they weren't speaking for three weeks and then the next
- 30:00Speaker 6: thing you were fine.
- 30:00Speaker 2: True story.
- 30:01Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying? And then you think, okay,
- 30:05Speaker 6: so that's how relationships work. We're angry at each other.
- 30:07Speaker 2: We're quiet. No one talks to each other. And then
- 30:09Speaker 2: visitors come and then we have to get along.
- 30:11Speaker 6: And then from then on, because the visitors were here,
- 30:13Speaker 6: we go back to being fine until the next wrong
- 30:15Speaker 6: thing that happens.
- 30:17Speaker 2: I'm just the girl.
- 30:18Speaker 12: If I get married again, I will do it differently.
- 30:21Speaker 12: But also, I don't have a reference because my dad
- 30:23Speaker 12: left when I was seven.
- 30:24Speaker 7: So I don't even know... what a mother and father
- 30:27Speaker 7: should do.
- 30:28Speaker 2: I don't have a reference. Yes.
- 30:30Speaker 7: And when you love somebody, if you want to make
- 30:36Speaker 7: the tea, you make the tea.
- 30:38Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
- 30:39Speaker 7: It comes naturally when you really love.
- 30:41Speaker 12: The person and you love their family.
- 30:42Speaker 6: Yeah, and also, you must also extend to who you are. Like,
- 30:48Speaker 6: for instance, me, I love cooking and I love that thing.
- 30:52Speaker 6: So when they were like, oh, you're cooking for 100 people,
- 30:54Speaker 6: I said, game on.
- 30:54Speaker 13: Yes.
- 30:56Speaker 2: I'm going to show y'all.
- 30:57Speaker 6: And, you know, but also families must also realize that
- 31:01Speaker 6: not every Makoti is skilled like that. Find something else
- 31:04Speaker 6: that she's good at. Will she be good at keeping
- 31:06Speaker 6: the family together on checking? Because I'm not good at
- 31:09Speaker 6: that part, in checking in on all the family members, right?
- 31:12Speaker 2: But when I'm there, oh, you've got me.
- 31:15Speaker 6: So they can't live on and expect the entire thing.
- 31:18Speaker 6: The family must also realize, oh, Makoti, where did you go?
- 31:21Speaker 6: But yeah, when she excels here, she excels at there.
- 31:24Speaker 2: She's a squeezer. She's a squeezer.
- 31:26Speaker 1: With us.
- 31:32Speaker 2: Rona, the.
- 31:35Speaker 5: African families, African people, if I could say that.
- 31:40Speaker 2: Individualism. I think we need to learn that.
- 31:44Speaker 5: And that'll come in handy with understanding that Anale can cook,
- 31:48Speaker 5: but she won't clean. Mapaseka likes to serve. She will
- 31:52Speaker 5: buy and serve, but she won't cook. And that's okay.
- 31:55Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 31:55Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 31:56Speaker 6: I think I was liking that regard because my rakati,
- 31:59Speaker 6: my husband's sister, she knew me very well. So already
- 32:03Speaker 6: she had hired three ladies who were going to clean.
- 32:05Speaker 2: Got you.
- 32:05Speaker 6: Because they know that Anale is going to cook, we're
- 32:07Speaker 6: going to eat well, but what she's not going to do.
- 32:10Speaker 2: And I think that's the.
- 32:12Speaker 6: Longevity of marriage is when families realize that, guys, we're
- 32:16Speaker 6: in this together and no one was brought here.
- 32:19Speaker 2: To be perfect.
- 32:20Speaker 6: Right? But what I love about the show Nyala O
- 32:22Speaker 6: is that every couple who watches it by yourself, with
- 32:26Speaker 6: your person, some of you are watching it alone because
- 32:28Speaker 6: you don't want to answer questions. Yeah.
- 32:31Speaker 10: You don't want your wife to say, one month?
- 32:36Speaker 2: One month? Yes.
- 32:40Speaker 6: But even if it's difficult conversations, thank you guys.
- 32:43Speaker 2: As a cast, as a show, as a script, as
- 32:45Speaker 2: a dialogue, as a channel. Thank you for.
- 32:48Speaker 6: forcing us to have those difficult conversations because we weren't
- 32:51Speaker 6: given the opportunity to have them when we were growing up.
- 32:53Speaker 2: So like you say, I don't know, my dad left
- 32:55Speaker 2: me when I was seven.
- 32:56Speaker 6: Now you can confront those demons and you can realize
- 32:59Speaker 6: that they affect you a lot more than you allow
- 33:01Speaker 6: yourself to think.
- 33:02Speaker 2: So yeah, well done guys. That is what art is
- 33:04Speaker 2: supposed to do.
- 33:05Speaker 5: Yay!
- 33:07Speaker 11: Yay!
- 33:07Speaker 9: Yay!
- 33:08Speaker 3: Yay!
- 33:08Speaker 2: Yay!
- 33:08Speaker 10: Yay!
- 33:08Speaker 4: Yay!
- 33:09Speaker 6: Yay! Yay!
- 33:17Speaker 7: Say goodbye now. Back to making your morning.
- 33:19Speaker 11: Back.
- 33:20Speaker 3: On L.A.
- 33:21Speaker 2: And the club. I love this show.
- 33:22Speaker 3: On 947.