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- 0:00Speaker 1: President Trump tells Axios that he's considering a quote massive
- 0:03Speaker 1: attack against Iran, one bigger than ever before, and he's
- 0:07Speaker 1: close to making that decision now. Trump is significantly underwater
- 0:10Speaker 1: when it comes to his handling of his job, as
- 0:13Speaker 1: well as inflation, the economy, Iran, even immigration.
- 0:17Speaker 2: There is no strategy. I'm for results. We just voted
- 0:20Speaker 2: to again stop the war in Iran this morning in
- 0:24Speaker 2: the House. But what is the president achieved. He's driven
- 0:27Speaker 2: gas prices up, He's driven food prices up. The enriched
- 0:31Speaker 2: uranium is still in Iran. They have a more extreme
- 0:35Speaker 2: regime because the Sun isn't even saying what Kaminae did,
- 0:39Speaker 2: which was we won't develop nuclear weapons. The ier GC
- 0:43Speaker 2: is stronger, they have more control over the strait of Hormos,
- 0:46Speaker 2: and Americans are being killed and the American people are
- 0:49Speaker 2: saying this is worse than just a moral crime. It's
- 0:53Speaker 2: a blunder. And you promise to end form wars and
- 0:56Speaker 2: you're getting us into this se mess. You're failing.
- 0:59Speaker 3: Karl As, Yeah, I shook my head because you know,
- 1:02Speaker 3: President Trump is doing what no American president did since
- 1:05Speaker 3: Jimmy Carter. He's actually taken on this murderous regime, the
- 1:09Speaker 3: Mullah regime, the IRGC. These are revolutionary nuts and they
- 1:15Speaker 3: are killing their own people, and they've killed American soldiers
- 1:18Speaker 3: throughout the world for decades. President Trump is the first
- 1:21Speaker 3: president to say, you know what it may cost me politically,
- 1:24Speaker 3: but I'm going to do the right thing. He's done
- 1:26Speaker 3: this in Venezuela, He's working on this in Cuba. He's
- 1:30Speaker 3: working around the world to make the United States the
- 1:33Speaker 3: people safer. And there are people in Iran that want
- 1:36Speaker 3: to have democracy that have a plan. The NCRI are
- 1:40Speaker 3: fighting to have democracy, clean elections, equality among the sexes,
- 1:44Speaker 3: and for the religions, with freedom of religion and clean courts.
- 1:47Speaker 3: So there are people that want to fight back against
- 1:50Speaker 3: this regime. As they get weaker, they get more of
- 1:52Speaker 3: a chance. So I think this is a great opportunity
- 1:55Speaker 3: for the Iranian people. But President Trump is going to
- 1:58Speaker 3: have to drive these very bad as into the Stone
- 2:01Speaker 3: Age to change the to change the what's happening now.
- 2:04Speaker 1: But are they how much weaker are they really in
- 2:08Speaker 1: this moment.
- 2:08Speaker 4: There's one thing that congressmen left out, and that is
- 2:11Speaker 4: they also came to Congress this week and asked for
- 2:13Speaker 4: seventy six billion dollars a lot of money. And I'm
- 2:16Speaker 4: not saying they need it or they don't need it.
- 2:17Speaker 4: But what I do know is I've been running campaigns
- 2:19Speaker 4: from California to New York, and right now the American
- 2:22Speaker 4: public ain't where they were in World War One or
- 2:24Speaker 4: World War two. Right now. They're all out of give
- 2:26Speaker 4: a damse, and they can give a damn about this war.
- 2:28Speaker 4: What they do give a damn about is gas prices,
- 2:30Speaker 4: meat prices, and not being able to afford things every day.
- 2:33Speaker 4: I think because of these things, and because we're in
- 2:36Speaker 4: a different place with not just three networks, folks are
- 2:38Speaker 4: getting their own information and being fed things that they
- 2:40Speaker 4: want or don't want. If you've got a let's Go
- 2:42Speaker 4: Brandon flag on your boat, you're with him. If you've
- 2:45Speaker 4: got a Bernie Sanders tattoo, you're against him. But everybody
- 2:48Speaker 4: in the middle right now, I'm telling you, right now,
- 2:50Speaker 4: is all out of give a damns about this war.
- 2:52Speaker 5: But I think most Americans recognize that there is a
- 2:54Speaker 5: very serious connection between the conflict and Iran and all
- 2:58Speaker 5: of those pocketbook issues that you will refer too earlier.
- 3:00Speaker 5: And I think that even among the President's base. A
- 3:03Speaker 5: lot of the reason why he won is because he
- 3:05Speaker 5: ran with a very particular kind of foreign policy, non interventionists.
- 3:08Speaker 5: We're not going to start stupid wars abroad. And I
- 3:11Speaker 5: think it's possible for two things to be true at once.
- 3:13Speaker 5: That the President was being bold is willing to confront
- 3:16Speaker 5: very bad, malevolent actors in the world, but he also
- 3:20Speaker 5: went about it in a foolish and foolhardy way that
- 3:22Speaker 5: seems to be pretty poorly calculated. It isn't clear that
- 3:25Speaker 5: there is an obvious good path forward here. If the
- 3:28Speaker 5: president imagines that he can just carry out this conflict
- 3:31Speaker 5: by dropping bombs from above without ever getting any boots
- 3:35Speaker 5: on the ground and make any meaningful progress, I think
- 3:38Speaker 5: that seems to be a policy that's probably not going
- 3:41Speaker 5: to yield results.
- 3:42Speaker 1: So Trump today he said that any damages that AROD
- 3:47Speaker 1: does to ship's cargo or anything in the straight up
- 3:49Speaker 1: warbouse would be paid for in Iranian money that the
- 3:53Speaker 1: United States has in its possession. This is quite the
- 3:59Speaker 1: contrast to what he was willing to do just a
- 4:01Speaker 1: few months ago, when he was willing to, you know,
- 4:06Speaker 1: release sanctions on Iranian oil, potentially unfreeze hundreds of millions
- 4:11Speaker 1: of dollars in assets potentially create a fund for the Iranians.
- 4:15Speaker 1: That was a pretty sweetheart deal for iron They didn't
- 4:18Speaker 1: have to do a whole lot to get that, and
- 4:20Speaker 1: they rejected it. Anyway, Again, I'm coming back to the
- 4:24Speaker 1: question of is there even a little bit of strategy
- 4:28Speaker 1: here or is it just a lot of random things
- 4:30Speaker 1: being said day after day.
- 4:32Speaker 6: I think what comes across is randomness is actually iteration.
- 4:36Speaker 6: The cordeo politics, right, the plotoplomo silver or lead? Do
- 4:40Speaker 6: you want the bullet or do you want the bribe?
- 4:42Speaker 6: Do you have two options? But yeah, it's a different
- 4:48Speaker 6: story like that. That is what defines a lot of
- 4:51Speaker 6: the politics of this administration. And I think that is
- 4:53Speaker 6: that is the absolute right approach in the Middle East.
- 4:56Speaker 6: It works very well in Latin America, doesn't translate so
- 4:59Speaker 6: well to Europe. But but when it comes to these
- 5:00Speaker 6: operations that we're seeing, you know, they are not going
- 5:03Speaker 6: forward with the you know you're with us or against us?
- 5:06Speaker 6: It's all or nothing, damn the consequences.
- 5:09Speaker 2: It is.
- 5:09Speaker 6: We're going to try this, Let's see the reaction. We're
- 5:11Speaker 6: going to try this. Let's see the reaction. We didn't
- 5:13Speaker 6: mention the fact that blockade is back on. We didn't
- 5:15Speaker 6: mention the fact that those funds have not been released.
- 5:18Speaker 6: There is still a sweetener. There's still a pot at
- 5:20Speaker 6: the end of that rainbow, if the Iranians so choose that.
- 5:24Speaker 6: If the regime said Centcom's still there, we have not
- 5:32Speaker 6: reduced our forces in the region, don't.
- 5:34Speaker 1: We really put most of it on the table already
- 5:37Speaker 1: at this point. We put the biggest thing we have,
- 5:40Speaker 1: which is our military, on the table first. We did that.
- 5:43Speaker 1: That was the first thing we did. Then we offered
- 5:44Speaker 1: them a ton of money that didn't work. It doesn't
- 5:47Speaker 1: strike me that there's a whole lot left except what
- 5:50Speaker 1: Trump also seems to be threatening, which is that maybe
- 5:54Speaker 1: he might start to strike borderline civilian targets like power
- 5:59Speaker 1: plants or break or whatnot, which would be a line
- 6:02Speaker 1: cross for us. So, I mean, do you think that
- 6:05Speaker 1: there's really much more left for them to either threaten
- 6:11Speaker 1: or to offer to the Iranians in this moment?
- 6:14Speaker 2: The problem is we're losing our leverage. And what's annoying
- 6:19Speaker 2: at Trump is that Barack Obama was far more effective.
- 6:23Speaker 2: That Barack Obama actually got China and the EU and
- 6:27Speaker 2: got a multilateral agreement that got ninety seven percent of
- 6:31Speaker 2: enriched uranium out. And it turns out being statesmanlike and
- 6:34Speaker 2: being smart and strategic is better than bluster for America's
- 6:38Speaker 2: national interest. And now the President has made a mess
- 6:41Speaker 2: of things, made a mess of the economy, but his
- 6:44Speaker 2: ego will not permit him to go to shijin Ping
- 6:47Speaker 2: and the European leaders and have a multilateral solution to
- 6:52Speaker 2: get us out of this mess and to help them.
- 6:55Speaker 6: I mean, the Iranians killed an order of magnitude more
- 6:58Speaker 6: Americans under present in Obama than they have under.
- 7:01Speaker 2: President That's just not true.
- 7:02Speaker 6: It was absolutely true. I was in a racket in
- 7:04Speaker 6: the e Fps that the Iranians were.
- 7:06Speaker 2: Sent back to the Obama didn't go to Dover Air
- 7:12Speaker 2: Force Base and have to look at dead Americans coming in.
- 7:16Speaker 2: Obama didn't preside over the straight up he should have
- 7:18Speaker 2: because there.
- 7:19Speaker 6: Were my colleagues coming back from.
- 7:20Speaker 2: Iraq, from Iraq but not from the Director were killed
- 7:23Speaker 2: by Iranian by back groups. Yes, those were being killed
- 7:30Speaker 2: under the first Trump term as well. And you know
- 7:32Speaker 2: that as well as I do. Trump has created a
- 7:34Speaker 2: disaster and killed and what he has done is he
- 7:38Speaker 2: engaged in the very regime change wars that he ran against,
- 7:42Speaker 2: and he believes that he can attack.
- 7:45Speaker 6: There's no regime change right that. That is the crux
- 7:48Speaker 6: of the democratic criticism. We haven't changed the regime. It's
- 7:50Speaker 6: not a vision.
- 7:52Speaker 3: Inflation, if I may, was much higher under President Biden.
- 7:56Speaker 6: That the crisis, the inflation spent.
- 8:00Speaker 3: He pushed so much money out. He just flooded the
- 8:03Speaker 3: zone with so much money. With the the inflation, we.
- 8:07Speaker 2: Could religate Biden, but the reality is you'll spend.
- 8:11Speaker 5: Of barbage.
- 8:12Speaker 3: And then he was throwing the gold bars out from
- 8:15Speaker 3: the EPA just funding left wing causes to the kinds
- 8:18Speaker 3: of disions.
- 8:19Speaker 1: Okay, the gold bars thing is not quite what you're describing.
- 8:22Speaker 1: But let me just read billions of just just to
- 8:24Speaker 1: your to your comments about the economy, here's a viewer
- 8:27Speaker 1: comment that says, the true war this president has to
- 8:30Speaker 1: deal with is the war against the economy. And and
- 8:35Speaker 1: just to that point, this Fox News poll shows that
- 8:39Speaker 1: seventy six percent of Americans have a negative view of
- 8:43Speaker 1: this economy. Uh and now fifty four percent of Americans
- 8:48Speaker 1: say Democrats would do a better job than Republicans on
- 8:52Speaker 1: the economy. So maybe you know, at the height of
- 8:54Speaker 1: inflation under Biden, for sure the numbers were worse. But
- 8:59Speaker 1: it's it's been interesting because I think voters right now
- 9:02Speaker 1: their sentiment about the economy is similar or if not
- 9:08Speaker 1: the same or worse than it was under Biden. And
- 9:10Speaker 1: I think some of it has to do with the
- 9:12Speaker 1: fact that they felt like they got out of the
- 9:13Speaker 1: woods and now they're going in the wrong direction because
- 9:16Speaker 1: of some of the decisions Trump is made.
- 9:17Speaker 5: Absolutely, and I think it's adjudicating whether Obama or Trump
- 9:21Speaker 5: has a better record or Iran at this point is
- 9:24Speaker 5: a bit of a moot point. We are where we
- 9:25Speaker 5: are in this very difficult, intractable situation, and I think
- 9:29Speaker 5: that the President the administration needs to take a very
- 9:31Speaker 5: hard look in the mirror. They need to find allies
- 9:34Speaker 5: on both sides of the isle. It is very difficult,
- 9:37Speaker 5: and I suspect it was a difficult vote to cast.
- 9:39Speaker 5: When American service persons are being killed abroad by an
- 9:43Speaker 5: adversarial regime and one is voting against actual engagement with them.
- 9:49Speaker 5: I understand why someone might want to cast that vote
- 9:51Speaker 5: if the administration doesn't seem to have a coherent strategy
- 9:54Speaker 5: for dealing with this. I think it can be very
- 9:56Speaker 5: difficult to actually rally support for some sort of military engagement.
- 10:00Speaker 5: This is where we are right now, and figuring out
- 10:02Speaker 5: how to get out of that entanglement is.
- 10:04Speaker 4: There's a reason why. There's a reason why. Sorry, there's
- 10:06Speaker 4: a reason why Joe Biden was blamed because he was
- 10:09Speaker 4: in charge at that point and things were high, things
- 10:11Speaker 4: cost too much. Well, now Republicans are in charge of
- 10:14Speaker 4: every aspect of Congress. The reason I went on that
- 10:16Speaker 4: TI rad in the beginning of a war thing to
- 10:17Speaker 4: talk about the economy was what you just said in
- 10:20Speaker 4: that poll. This is what Americans really care about right now.
- 10:22Speaker 4: If you ask them if they won't ran to have
- 10:24Speaker 4: a nuclear weapon, they'll say no. But they say right now,
- 10:27Speaker 4: that's good and that's over there. But right here is
- 10:29Speaker 4: where I'm hurting. It happened under Joe Biden, and now
- 10:31Speaker 4: it's happening under Donald Trump, but even worse. That's one
- 10:34Speaker 4: of the American public. I ain't taking a side on
- 10:36Speaker 4: either one of who did whatever, But I run campaigns
- 10:39Speaker 4: every day, and these people are all fed up, all
- 10:41Speaker 4: across America, who work hard every day, who don't feel
- 10:43Speaker 4: like nobody's listening to them.
- 10:45Speaker 1: I think the danger here is that voters decide to
- 10:48Speaker 1: just take the car keys away from.
- 10:52Speaker 2: Impossible. He's getting the car and impossible. He's given Democrats
- 10:55Speaker 2: a lead on the economy. I don't think we've had
- 10:57Speaker 2: that