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Ep116 Super Bowl Shuffle, Free Agency & Sports · Sports Allegedly

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  Speaker 1: Where I keep hitting the wrong buttons and somebody else,
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  Speaker 1: uh celebrated too early for the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 2: And lost it all. It's Sports Allegedly.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Thank you all for joining us for
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  Speaker 3: this late night edition kind of like after dark edition.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you for this episode of Sports Allegedly. We're coming
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  Speaker 3: to you live on the Damn Love Love February fourteenth,
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty five. And we got so much to talk about.
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  Speaker 3: We'll get an MBA. We got a lot of free
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  Speaker 3: agency talk. But let's recap that super Bowl that obviously
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  Speaker 3: we're the last ones to recap it. Everyone's been able
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  Speaker 3: to recap it because it was Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: We're a week. Yeah, I should I should have brought
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  Speaker 1: the computer.
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  Speaker 2: We should have done it that much.
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  Speaker 1: We should have.
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  Speaker 3: But I mean, so, I mean, what hasn't anybody said, Sean,
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  Speaker 3: you got anything that nobody hasn't said. I mean to
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  Speaker 3: go over the whole.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, well, I mean you had Kansas City getting
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  Speaker 1: beat by never being blitzed. I don't know if you
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  Speaker 1: saw that statistic and a couple of I think, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: there there Philadelphia beat them on a three or four men.
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  Speaker 3: I think statistic I think there was zero blitz They
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  Speaker 3: did a lot of stunts and stuff and well.
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  Speaker 2: But there were no blitzes.
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  Speaker 1: And if you remember when Braun got that interception, he
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  Speaker 1: was just setting there spying.
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  Speaker 3: Oh that was just a bad pass.
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  Speaker 1: Well he didn't know that Broun was setting there spying,
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  Speaker 1: like I guess he was covered up by somebody. Bron
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  Speaker 1: just came out. And you remember that Bron's been a
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  Speaker 1: battled player for the last few seasons, just a backup.
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  Speaker 3: Talking about the Saints, he was a backup special teams
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  Speaker 3: guy comes over.
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  Speaker 1: And and middle linebacker.
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  Speaker 3: And uh does It's great for the Eagles, But I
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  Speaker 3: you know, I thought when you started a game, I
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  Speaker 3: thought Kansas City looked flat. Then they turned around, Philadelphia scored.
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  Speaker 3: They flat, well, Philadelphia scored, and then it's it's like
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  Speaker 3: the first quarter. Okay, it's seven to nothing, and then
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  Speaker 3: you just start seeing the wheels fall off. By the
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  Speaker 3: time it's you know, halftime, it's twenty four to seven.
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  Speaker 3: I thought the big thing that I saw was on
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  Speaker 3: the offensive side. You know, I have to a no.
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  Speaker 3: At halftime it was no, no, I'm talking about the first
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  Speaker 3: half offensive size zero. I said, I'm sorry, I said seven,
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  Speaker 3: but it's twenty four zero. But I thought offensively, I
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  Speaker 3: thought the uh and and I must admit that I'm wrong.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Hurts played a hell of a game. What
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  Speaker 3: Kansas City done defensively was hey, let's stop Saquon, best
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  Speaker 3: running back.
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  Speaker 1: In the league. And they did. They focused, they did,
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  Speaker 1: they focused on that. I think a little too.
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  Speaker 3: Much they did, and there was no adjustments in the
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  Speaker 3: second half. But I thought the first half, you know,
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  Speaker 3: Hurts made the plays that happened. His legs was what
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  Speaker 3: I saw more out of him that I'd seen most
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  Speaker 3: of the end. Maybe that was the seat. Who knows.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he just and you know, third down to fishing.
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  Speaker 3: I was talking about it. Third and twelve is what
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  Speaker 3: I see statistically, But I saw some of the biggest
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  Speaker 3: third downs was him the two running, the two running,
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  Speaker 3: and then he had the one pass for like nine
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  Speaker 3: yards I think it was third and eight or something.
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  Speaker 2: He did not get out.
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  Speaker 1: He did not break out like he had in the
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  Speaker 1: previous two games.
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  Speaker 3: And then you turn around you look at Vic Vangio,
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  Speaker 3: and we talked about that that Fangio's defense was night
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  Speaker 3: and day compared to what the defense was last year.
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  Speaker 3: And they turned around and the front four and you're right,
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  Speaker 3: they didn't do a lot of blitz. They did some,
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  Speaker 3: but they did apparently were zero. I see that, But
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  Speaker 3: I mean they did a lot of stunts, and it's
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  Speaker 3: not like that. I don't know what statistically you say
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  Speaker 3: is just you can't bring more than four is not
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  Speaker 3: a blitz.
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  Speaker 1: But they did a lot of If you run a
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  Speaker 1: four to three. But here's the deal, if you just
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  Speaker 1: bring those four the whole time, it's not a blitz.
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  Speaker 3: So ultimately, though, ultimately, though, the reason for the demise
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  Speaker 3: of the Chiefs again eerily reminded me of what we
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  Speaker 3: saw in the Chiefs when they played Tampa Bay. Was
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  Speaker 3: the defensive line was dominant. I'm just saying the defensive
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  Speaker 3: line of Tampa Bay was dominant. The defensive line of
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  Speaker 3: Philadelphia was minute. I thought that the offensive line was
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  Speaker 3: their weakness. I mean, Creed, Hampy's good, Humphrey's good, obviously,
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  Speaker 3: and then you turn around and there's really not a
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  Speaker 3: lot else there. Uh you know that's so good.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, you have one other and I think it's your tackle.
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  Speaker 3: One of the tackles, it's one of the Okay, we
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  Speaker 3: talked about in the pod before is we both picked
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  Speaker 3: the Chiefs to win.
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  Speaker 1: And well I did, did you do? I picked Philly
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  Speaker 1: to win.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sorry, we both picked the Eagles.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there you get this Chiefs win.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no, I mean it's it were usually used to
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  Speaker 3: it thirty one three Kenny and thirty one fifteen Sean.
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  Speaker 2: And I just expect.
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  Speaker 1: I really expected a closer game. I did not expect
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  Speaker 1: garbage time from Kansas City. Well, I mean, like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: they could not get anything done the entire.
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  Speaker 3: Four Okay, so look at who screwed up stuff as
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  Speaker 3: far as.
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  Speaker 1: And then get your first touchdown and you go for two. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I thought they were buying points early there. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: but they were down twenty four nothing, you know, but
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  Speaker 3: still I'm no, I don't even think they were down
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  Speaker 3: twenty four to nothing. I think that six was later
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  Speaker 3: because I think that Ken's I think that the Eagles,
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  Speaker 3: if I remember right, I think, God, they had a
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  Speaker 3: really long third quarter drive and there was only five
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  Speaker 3: or six minutes left in the third quarter. I mean
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  Speaker 3: they drove, drove, drove, and hey listen, I mean when
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  Speaker 3: you when you really get down to it, wasn't this
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  Speaker 3: the least dominant in thirty seven to there you go, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: so didn't I thirty four to six and I think
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  Speaker 3: they had a long drive and scored a touchdout there
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  Speaker 3: you go five minutes in the third quarter. No talking
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  Speaker 3: about Philadelphia. Yeah, so it's twenty four ninh and they
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  Speaker 3: scored a field goal. It doesn't sound like a lot,
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  Speaker 3: but they took six minutes out of the third.
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  Speaker 1: When he got the ball back for another two forty exactly,
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  Speaker 1: that's the third got another touchdown and that's.
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  Speaker 3: When it was over. And the Chiefs players, no, I'm
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  Speaker 3: not saying they'd give up, but that was giving up.
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  Speaker 3: I mean you could just tell the defense, uh didn't
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  Speaker 3: know what they were doing. And we talked about the
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  Speaker 3: line play. It was important to talk about that. Every
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  Speaker 3: player when you talk about the Eagles, was destined to
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  Speaker 3: be better. I mean, you had my Homes and you
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  Speaker 3: had Creed Humphrey, and you had who am I missing kill?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 3: No, no no, and you had Andy Reid. That's the three
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  Speaker 3: people that was any better than anybody on the Eagles.
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  Speaker 3: Eagles are the best built NFL team, right you kid?
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  Speaker 2: Besides the County DeAndre Hopkins. We ended up having a drop.
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  Speaker 1: Dude, He's not.
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  Speaker 3: He wouldn't start for he wouldn't he would be fourth
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  Speaker 3: or fifth wide receiver on the Eagles. I'm just saying,
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  Speaker 3: when you put the two teams together, the players wise,
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  Speaker 3: Jondian Hoppins is way down the list now maybe at best,
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  Speaker 3: at best, but still okay, So we'd play every other
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  Speaker 3: play or whatever. I mean, you got, like I've talked about,
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  Speaker 3: You've got the Eagles, that's the best why receiver tannem
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  Speaker 3: and you didn't even need him.
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  Speaker 1: I know you honestly didn't.
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  Speaker 3: I mean for your I'm sorry you needed them in
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  Speaker 3: this game, but you didn't need him every game during
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  Speaker 3: the regular season. You didn't need saquon this game.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Well, Jalen had seventy He was the leading rusher
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  Speaker 1: with seventy two on eleven carries.
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  Speaker 3: And he and they used his legs at the most
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  Speaker 3: of the movie.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, he he used his legs at the most appropriate time.
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  Speaker 3: Not that well they do. There was some, There was some, there.
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  Speaker 1: Was designed, but there was a couple. There were also
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  Speaker 1: a couple that he did on his own. I watched
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  Speaker 1: that he did. He did on his own. His uh,
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  Speaker 1: his wide receivers were covered and he took off.
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  Speaker 3: The two super Bowls he's played in, he's excelled, and
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  Speaker 3: he's excelled and he beats in both super Bowls. Love
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  Speaker 3: hearing statistically, I.
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  Speaker 1: Love hearing Utah Jalen Hurts up, I said, I and
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  Speaker 1: Selving I.
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  Speaker 3: Admit that a quarterback could come in with the best
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  Speaker 3: O line and the best defense, that he can look good.
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  Speaker 1: But did you belie leave the season before that Jalen
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  Speaker 1: Hurts would have won a super Bowl?
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  Speaker 3: No, because he didn't, so I'd be right, but no,
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  Speaker 3: But I mean, did you believe that, didn't believe he'd
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  Speaker 3: make one?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Even after that, did you not believe that he would
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  Speaker 1: end up back in the super Bowl? After last season?
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  Speaker 1: After watching last season and you know they still the playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: They were still good.
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  Speaker 3: But we talked about changes last year and we thought
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  Speaker 3: Vic was the best, the best coordinator higher.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know why Miami got rid of it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, I think there was. There was rumors that
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  Speaker 3: he coached him too hard, and.
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  Speaker 2: Well you see what coaching you too hard gets.
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  Speaker 3: But you must need get me.
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  Speaker 1: You get Cooper de g a rookie on his birthday,
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  Speaker 1: was a pick six.
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  Speaker 3: Good and that was a great draft pick. And do
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  Speaker 3: you know who the we got them on one of
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  Speaker 3: the best of secondary him.
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  Speaker 1: And do you know what Andy Reid who the last
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  Speaker 1: who was the last white cornerback to get a pick
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  Speaker 1: six was? I don't know, New York Giants Jason Steve
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  Speaker 1: against Andy Reid and the Eagles. It was that one
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  Speaker 1: where he flipped him in a Super Bowl, obviously, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying the last he flipped.
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  Speaker 2: He was playing corner and he went for the ball
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  Speaker 2: and he flipped. He rolled over and then.
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  Speaker 3: Just thought, I thought Reid, Blake and Ship really played
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  Speaker 3: an heralded game. If you watched him. It's tough de
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  Speaker 3: Gene obviously, what I'm saying Zach Bond. Zach Bond was Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: good play. I mean he's gonna statistically, but Josh Sweat
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  Speaker 3: obviously rook I'm sorry. A free agent, yes, give him
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  Speaker 3: and I and that's if you look. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: how if you pull that up. We'll talk about free
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  Speaker 3: agents later, but Eagles have quite a few of them,
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  Speaker 3: and that's generally how that happens. You you you build
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  Speaker 3: a mega team. But Roseman, the GM should be given
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  Speaker 3: a lot of credit.
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  Speaker 2: Did you see that kill two tackles? Really?
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  Speaker 3: Is that on fumbles or something?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I just know that DS two tackles.
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  Speaker 3: No, I just thought, how I thought Harry Roseman done.
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  Speaker 2: Well.
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  Speaker 3: It's built a great team. Well, and they built it
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  Speaker 3: on a quarterback that really hasn't been battled. Well, it's
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  Speaker 3: the coach was more in battled. But then you bring
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  Speaker 3: with Mary paid a little more than people would go
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  Speaker 3: what did they pay thirteen fourteen to fifteen million for him?
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  Speaker 3: Why nobody pays the running back? Now, well you look
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  Speaker 3: at it now, this was the year of the running back.
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  Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, and.
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  Speaker 2: Any of the running back came back.
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  Speaker 3: And that how that shined. And now you're thinking, well, okay,
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  Speaker 3: do I pick up running backs? Is that significant? Really?
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  Speaker 3: What we've always talked about in the best teams generally
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  Speaker 3: have good coordinators, great lines, and a star on either
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  Speaker 3: side of the ball. Well some star.
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  Speaker 1: You just said great coordinators. And you know, Kellen Moore
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  Speaker 1: was that coordinator that you're talking about.
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  Speaker 3: He's a head coach, he is. Now he took a we.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say this.
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  Speaker 1: We discounted Kellen Moore as an offensive coordinator at his
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  Speaker 1: time with San Diego and at his time with Dallas.
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  Speaker 3: Not so much Dallas, definitely San Diego. Well, we forgot
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  Speaker 3: how bad the defense was in San Diego. And then
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  Speaker 3: allegedly he turns around as is he hiring Brandon Stalius.
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  Speaker 3: He's de coordinator at New Orleans. I've read a report.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, he who was the head coach when he
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  Speaker 3: was at San Diego. It may be, yeah, I think
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  Speaker 3: that's a bad hire, but yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I saw I saw Matt Patricia getting over there. I
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  Speaker 2: think that was Ohio State.
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  Speaker 3: That's a great hire. I thought we'll talk about that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get to that.
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  Speaker 1: But no, Philadelphia, and I had picked him for our
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  Speaker 1: pool pick. I had picked him at sixty sixty four
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  Speaker 1: and I ended up getting that on garbage time, which
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  Speaker 1: they hold on.
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  Speaker 3: I predicted fifty four and had it, had it in
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  Speaker 3: the fourth. I predicted it exactly. Yeah, I picked it exactly.
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  Speaker 3: He's exactly right, and.
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  Speaker 1: He's out and he's dancing and he's celebrating, and Sammy
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  Speaker 1: Worthy was another touchdown late bullshit. Garbage time they go
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  Speaker 1: to they go for too and they have no chance
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  Speaker 1: of even if they got the on side kicked, they
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  Speaker 1: still have no chance winning the game. I just thought
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  Speaker 1: it was I thought it was a very well together
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  Speaker 1: game plan from from offense tote one.
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  Speaker 3: We talked about it, but.
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  Speaker 1: It was a it was a very It doesn't look
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  Speaker 1: like they changed anything from first half to second half.
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  Speaker 2: They stuck with what they were doing.
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  Speaker 3: Detroit and Philadelphia and the NFC Championship would have really
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  Speaker 3: been fun to watch, it would. And then Golf just
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  Speaker 3: pissed down his leg, puked at his mouth, whatever you
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  Speaker 3: want to call it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and that that was him going against a coach
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  Speaker 1: that had been there before, and and the very good
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  Speaker 1: defensive coach I will I will say, because you remember
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  Speaker 1: the Cowboys had been in the playoffs and then without him,
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  Speaker 1: the Cowboys were just horrible trash this.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but Washington beat him. I don't, Oh you're talking about?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, and then and then Detroit goes on to
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  Speaker 1: lose all their coordinators. Philly's only lost one.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, well, Vic's not gett another head coaching job, So.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think they wants another head coach.
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  Speaker 3: That's what you do, and that's that's that's that's coordinators do.
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  Speaker 1: Steve spagn the other guys that I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: do this again.
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  Speaker 3: But I mean, if they get it, they take it.
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  Speaker 3: But on a side note, but if loves the Prima Donna,
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  Speaker 3: the young up and coming and how many is gonna
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  Speaker 3: get fired?
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  Speaker 1: Favorite quarterback with tiny hands has a super Bowl ring, Now.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. There's a lot of backups in no
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  Speaker 3: plays that no players that have super Bowl rings.
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  Speaker 4: That's cool, But there was I did see there was
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  Speaker 4: a Kansas City chief that did get a third Super
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  Speaker 4: Bowl ring.
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  Speaker 2: So one guy did three.
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  Speaker 3: P Yeah, he had been on he know, he'd been
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  Speaker 3: on the He.
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  Speaker 1: Was on the Chiefs for the last season and then
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  Speaker 1: he came over this season to Philly and it was
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  Speaker 1: Kieran Or He was an offensive lineman. But yeah, he
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  Speaker 1: ended up he did the three peat.
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  Speaker 3: Let's talk about the Chiefs a little bit. Chiefs had
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  Speaker 3: arguably the best record for the worst team you've ever watched. Ye, absolutely,
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  Speaker 3: they were fifteen and how they pulled out two games
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  Speaker 3: regular season pulled yeah, right, six games? Yeah, and then
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  Speaker 3: you know, so what do you is it? It's getting
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  Speaker 3: ready to be the time that you're going to start with.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Philadelphia is going to have a little bit
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  Speaker 3: of a dip I think next year. But the NFC
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  Speaker 3: East is pretty easy. Dean's on what Washington does. They
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  Speaker 3: have a lot of cap space there.
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  Speaker 1: Not losing, They're not really losing. And do know that
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  Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey has been.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you've got no I mean, you've got sweat. I
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  Speaker 3: mean you pull up the top free agents that's coming.
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  Speaker 3: I mean you've got sweat. You've got a couple other
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  Speaker 3: people on defense that could be critical to that, and
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  Speaker 3: then you've you know, what's a J Brown's problem? He
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  Speaker 3: seems pissy.
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  Speaker 1: One of super he got Super No, I think he's better. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so here go.
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  Speaker 2: With the top free agents. We're looking at.
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  Speaker 1: Kansas City's got DeAndre Hopkins coming up, justin Reid, Philadelphia, Sweat.
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  Speaker 3: Go back down and see if they got anybody else.
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  Speaker 3: I think they've got a few others that's gonna come
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  Speaker 3: up on the defensive side, and maybe not. I mean
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  Speaker 3: we're going down. The list doesn't seem like a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Of He's got Marquis Brown coming up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it doesn't.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, is party on?
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  Speaker 2: Oh here we go. Randon Graham.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, that's another one, but that's.
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  Speaker 2: Not that's not a big one.
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  Speaker 3: That's not a big one. I thought there was somebody
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  Speaker 3: else that I'm just missing.
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  Speaker 1: H oh Z that bond.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's that's all the free agents that are coming up.
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  Speaker 3: We'll talk about. But no, I think I think the
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  Speaker 3: Eagles are bound to be there. Sweat's not gonna be
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: a big deal. Carter. They're gonna have to re sign
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: soon because he's gonna be going into the third year.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: I think cap space, you know my Homes. Yeah, they
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: they don't spend a lot of money on running backs.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: And they didn't run the ball in the Super Bowl.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: That was another thing tried. Well no I mean the
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: but no, I mean play calling.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: But you don't have a dynamic running back. You didn't
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: have that break open that Simon J. P Ryan had
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: against uh A Buffalo.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah no, but no, no, no, I think the game
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: plan was just odd. I think that Mahomes they wouldn't
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: and every how many deep plays, deep throws that Mahomes have.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: It's like that was early. You need to really look,
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: well it was that connected with late Yeah, late after
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: it was already over.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: You had the drop by Hopkins, you had a drop
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: by Kelsey, you had two interceptions.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but a lot of those shit though. I mean
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: even the the you know, the Kelsey, some of those
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: throws and they dropped. It's like, oh, Kelsey should have
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: had Why is he diving?
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: Holly was sick, Why.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Is he diving for it?
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: Well? Won, he threw at the fucking ground.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: Exactly, exactly. Worthy had to have a good game. First
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: text and long hornet score of Super Bowl Ever, congratulations.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: I think I know you guy got the MVP, though
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: we call that.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, who knows, well, if you got the sc
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: networks they don't recognize his time at Oklahoma.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: Course they don't. It doesn't matter. I mean, I think
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: all that stuff is just so fucking generic. It's just
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, the reason the reason he came to Oklahoma
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: was because of a coach that's not here anymore, period.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Well, and that he wanted to learn how to pass,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: and that's what he did. He learned how to be
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: a passer at Oklahoma.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: Well, No, when I thought his leg I mean, he's
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: the past two Super Bowls, he's passed really well. But
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: I thought key plays in that game was was with
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: his legs. I thought the defense for Kansas City, you know,
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: their point was to stop Saquon and they did for
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: the most part. Then you turn around and look at
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: their offense. Too many throws. They should have ran the
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: ball more. They tried in the third quarter, they come out,
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: they get stuffed, and then I think the Eagles that
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: was the play I was talking the drive I was
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: talking about earlier, that the Eagles had plenty of yards
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: or plenty of time that they took off and it's like,
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: holy shit, we're down by this much. They didn't. They
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: only scored a field goal. But you thought, damn, that's
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: a backbreaker. How many third downs that they got. Those
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: three third downs that they got was crucial. And then
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: have the legs of Hurts. Like I said, I'm here
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: to set that I have stated that I thought Hurts
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: would not be a good NFL quarterback. I've shot on
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: him enough. And now, granted he's got one of the
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: best offensive lines, he's got a defense to back him,
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: he's got the best wide receiver tandem, but sometimes that's
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: what you need. His composure has been wonderful. He's not
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: an up and down guy, and I was wrong as
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: far as saying that guy is a good NFL quarterback,
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: especially when you put him in the right position. When
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: and I thought Kellen Moore played that well. You look
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: at Dak Prescott some of his numbers when Kellen Moore
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: was his offensive coordinator, who I thought was weak. I
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: didn't think he was that good. I was wrong there.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: He put up some of the best numbers. Now go
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: back to Herbert, not so sure. I thought the defense
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: was horrible. Offensive that they look good. And so now
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: he's got it. He's the head coach at the Saints,
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: which I mean, You've got Derek Carr, who's one of
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: the more talented Sometimes he looks dumb, I'm sorry, just
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: dumb when he makes his decision making. But I think
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: he's one of the more talented quarter.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: But Hardball's done with Herbert made Herbert look better this season.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: Not necessarily. I think that's been more defense, culture and
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: special teams.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: But Herbert he looked better.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: Did he? I mean no, I mean he.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: He looked better than he had in the last few seasons.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: Not statistically, I don't think.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Do you remember the the Playhoff loss to the Jags.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: I'm saying statistically he didn't look better. I think that
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: was a culture change. I think that was one of
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: the top passers, wasn't it. No, I'm just saying that
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: this season his his statistically, I don't think was is
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: any better than it was the year before. We'll pull
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: it up though. Let's look at stats, and I do
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: love stats.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: I know your your pants are getting tired right now.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So this year he threw for thirty eight, twenty
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: three and three. Well he did have statistically, but see
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: two years ago he was forty seven and that kelling
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: Moore was there and then five thousand. So no, statistically
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: yards wise now mistakes better in cordab Well, that's but
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: that's that's.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: What I mean.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Like a No, I just don't.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: I just don't think they put him in that position
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: because they ran the ball a lot more.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, and that's fine, but he's still you know,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: it's not it's not his best year.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. No, no, no, I wouldn't say
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: it was his best statistically.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: I was just saying that he was better, uh with
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Harball and what Harball has brought.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: In, Well, they took away that his two best receivers,
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: but lad conky keme.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: McConkie's Quentin Johnson looked a hell of a lot better.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: Better, But that's only because he was there sixty five percent,
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: almost sixty six percent, but he had sixty five sixty eight.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: You know, twenty twenty two was his best year and
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: that was killing more. I believe it was. Yes, I
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: believe it was.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Was that the year lost to the Jacks in the playoff.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Were we watching that?
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: That was bad?
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah? That comeback?
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: Can we talk about that team?
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Not good? Joe Jackson. We'll get into that. We'll get
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: into your love of Jackson.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: Oh no, I'm right, I'm so fucking right about that.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: Just him.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Okay, So anyways, Uh, Philadelphia repeating it is Uh? I
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: do know that the betting favorites for repeating next season. Uh,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Baltimore's right behind him. I believe Tansas City's right there
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: with those two teams. I believe Buffalo is picked at
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: the number four team, number number five team.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: I don't remember.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: I saw this stat like yesterday, so I've done a
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: lot since then. Well here's another thing. Uh, your top
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: running back.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: Have to sit a Lombardi. It was Joe Lombardi. Oh
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: really yeah? The Kellamore was only uh was the quarterbacks
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: just once? Yeah?
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Huh.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: Of course you've got Greg Roman now, uh, which I
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: like him, but a lot of run game. I mean
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: they were better. I mean that's a harrball is a
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: more focused on running and and whether it be you
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: know Steichen was Herbert's rookie coach in twenty twenty. Really, yes,
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: Lombardi was twenty one twenty two.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: It was crazy.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: I forgot about that.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Didn't mean I did, we all did.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: I forgot about it.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: This is what Steichen only spent uh two years at Philadelphia.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: Three ye all Lombardi is now?
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Oh Lombardi's with Buffalo, isn't he hold it?
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: Hold it? Hold it. He's a Broncos. That's broc Yeah,
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: he's a Broncos. Yes, God, I forgot.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: About that because he was he was at Buffalo.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: Yes, no, never at Buffalo.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: I said, he love that.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Lombardi went to Buffalo.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: Now Lions for a little bit under Caldwell. Then he
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: went to the Saints and that was a quarterback coach,
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: and then he went to the Chargers and then he
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: who was it? Who was? He was fired after the
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: wild Card lost to Jacksonville, where the Chargers lost at
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: twenty seven point lead, which is ironic that you're you
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: fire your OC for being up twenty second points. I watched,
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: and he's the defensive minded coach. That's why they hired
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: Killing Moore for that one year. It's fucking nuts, and
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: then got fired. That's why we.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Have watched them do this numerous times.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: We have watched the head coaches scapegoat to keep their jobs.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: What Chicago went through two wants of offensive coordinators during
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: the season, this season, this last season, and trying to
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: justify why you know Caleb Williams was horrible?
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: Was that Shane Leffrin or what was Shane?
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: I forgot that too many God.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: You brought up that wild card loss. I forgot that
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: Brandon Staley, a defensive minded coaches, fired his offensive coordinator
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: being up twenty seven points and fired him. Now here's
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: my problem. When I was talking to you earlier about
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: I thought that Killamore getting that Saints job was great.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: He's looking at hiring Brandon State as his defensive coordinator.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: I just don't This familiarity's great, but I just don't.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Well and we we we don't. Is Brandon Staley a
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: better coordinator than he is a head coach?
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: Awesome?
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: We do?
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: You do run into that a lot.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, you look at Mike Tomlin, who's been a
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: head coach for how long? And he was he wouldn't
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: he the defensive coordinator whenever he was more?
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: I know, but you look at that.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: So the you talk about Dennis Allen who came from
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: the Saints that bart, Yeah, he's he's now a great.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Hire for their defense. We have zero c hire.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Remind me, oh, the OC hire was.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: Boring. If I remember, Oh, Ben Johnson's calm the place,
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: it doesn't matter. Yeah, I forgot nobody. It doesn't matter
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: Ben Johnson's calm place. He's in place.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: I forgot where the guy came from.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: It's funny to think, Oh, he said nobody from Iowa
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: or something.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was a tight end coach at Denver Broncos.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but he came from Iowa.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: So we're talking about coaching right now as we moved
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: on for the Super Bowl. Oh you know, hey, you
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: could look at look at next year's odds. Pull that up.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: You were talking about odds, and I'm sorry interrupted you
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: on that because you said that that Philly was the
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: number one odd. I've got a couple surprised, Jeames. I
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: want to talk about as far as not necessarily make
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: I'm necessarily taking to the end or I mean winning
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: it all. You know what I mean.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: Okay, So Philly is number one, Kansas City's number two,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Buffalo is number three, Baltimore's number.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: Four, gotcha? Gotcha, a f C, AFC, a FC except Philly.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Uh, you know, Washington's gotta be up there. Detroit is
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: a love plus eleven hundred.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: What do you think San Francisco's back there? Uh?
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: They spent an entire season injury riddled and but getting
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: rid of debo, getting rid of it. Now.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: You talked a little bit about when you were talking
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: about we'll get the rumors about San Francisco. Remember the
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: rumors for the Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers parties do for
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: a deal even though Jed not Jed, God, what is
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: the Tampa's safety and he's the GM and Lynch No,
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: John has not Sean, I don't know.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Why I said.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: He said he's gonna sign. So what do you pay? Party?
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: What you've gotten away with getting him cheap for this
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: long him now and we've we've talked, we've talked.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: About that, But what do you paying?
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: What was the Daniel Jones for one six?
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: Is that what you pay him. You think he takes it.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Of course he'll take it.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: You think nobody would pay anymore.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Well, and that's where you get into the.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: Rumors, got to be a dome team.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Well, it is a dome tea. It's a dome team
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: in the desert, and it is Tom Brady. H vegs
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: of Tom Brady trying to get him to come there
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: and let Aaron Rodgers go to San Francisco, but trading,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: trading to get Rock Party in because he likes the
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: way that Brock Party sees the field. He likes the
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: way he likes it.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: He likes that Brock Purty.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: So, uh, he's more smarter, He's a better athletic, more smarter.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: He's more smarter, more smarter. I like more smarter. So
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: you look at that list. So you got one, two, three, four,
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: five six. The sixth best odds to win the Super
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: Bowl is a team that didn't make the playoffs. When's
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: the next team that didn't make the playoffs? How far
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: do you gotta go down? Of course this according to
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: CBS Sports, when's the Bengals. Okay, so that's second, fair enough,
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: and then keep going down, keep going down, keep going down,
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: and then what numbers Minnesota the playoffs? Well, y'all, they
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: had to fucking home field advantage right behind the Troy.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: They had a home field game they lost. Oh that's right,
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: they were pass yes Chicago, and that's the next one,
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: and then Miami. So Chicago's tied with the Broncos and
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: the Buccaneers and the Vikings. And what makes Chicago better
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: than any of those three teams? Nothing? Because they hired
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: some wonder kid that thinks he's some O C genius.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: I promise you this, and den sell them. They ain't
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: gonna make the playoffs. They are not gonna make the playoffs.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: Mark it down, slap a label. The Bears will not
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: make the playoffs, not with.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: That quarterback I wanted to take Jayden Daniels.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: The Buccaneers, on the other hand, in.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: The weakest division of all the football.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: Will make the playoffs. The Denver Broncos made the playoffs
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: this year. It wasn't nobody. And now you've got to think, Okay, now,
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: who's the team that takes a step back? The Vikings probably,
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: but they ain't worse than that. They ain't worse than
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: the Bears.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Do the Rams take a step back or do the
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Rams keep going for green Bay? Does green Bay take
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: a step back?
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: I'm in the running for Garrett. That's been a rumor, right,
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: but I'm gonna take it.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you right now.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: Philly, Kansas City, Buffalo, Baltimore are and the Lions. You're
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: replacing all of your You're replacing a lot of staff.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: Dude, they're all in the playoffs. So you can't say
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: those top five teams are you can number six Disco?
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Well, what is going on there? Are they going to
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: be healthy?
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: So let's get to it. Oh healthy, Debo's gone, Deebo
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: wants to treat. So then what do you do with
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: brock Party, who's not that good? I mean, I'd take
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: Hurts over fucking Party. I've said it on this pod.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: I'd take him over Party. I've made that very clear.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: So I don't want to hear this drum man. Okay,
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: I'm not ok but I'm sorry to said that.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: I will say that Washington has a better shot of
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: getting there over Detroit and San Francisco.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: Washington is missing to San Francisco. Yeah, pie, Washington's missing
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: about six pieces.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: No, two to three, They're missing a dynamic running back
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: and they're missing.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: I don't even think they need a dynamic running back.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: I said, I think they need a number two wide receiver.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: And I said, the rest of the five need to
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: be on defense. That Daniel's mad, but there's a lot
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: of problems on offense. Get another lineman. Maybe I don't
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: even know if you need to run run the ball?
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: Who's a running back? Remind me, God, I can't remember.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: It's not McLaurin, is it.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: No, he's a wide receiver, Robins, Robinson. Okay, he's not bad.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: That's okay. He's got another guy got cut. Like I said,
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: you just bad. That is not a problem. It's the defense.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: The defense is horrific.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: The defense has one issue.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: San Francisco is done. They are toast. You're gonna talk
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: about Shanahan being not fired, but you could potentially see
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: it traded. How about a trade? How about a trade?
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: How about a how about a trade to somebody that's
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: got a better team. Because everyone thinks, everyone thinks he's
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: a wonder. Now I don't think so. Because I think
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: Callahan's good. Who's going to quarterback there? That's where I
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: think Aaron Rodgers, That's that's what Aaron.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Rodgers has a multitude of spots that I don't think
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: he's got it. He's got Cleveland, now, he's got Pittsburgh.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: Now, he's just he's he's a he's a cancer on
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: a team.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: I didn't say that.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: I didn't you say that you need to go.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: He said that he's got options. I ve he can
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: go to.
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: Pick a team. Hold on picking. This is just my opinion.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: Tennessee guy.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: Okay, he does pick a team that's got a week
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: head coach, a week owner that's desperate. You know you've
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: got a headstrong coach there, You've got Pete Carroll ca.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: I think Tennessee is the best, best because, oh.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: No, he could go to he could definitely go to Cleveland.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: They are pushing on.
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: I don't think they will overpay, because what are you
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: gonna do with the Shawn? You've got to do? Shawn
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: is done? You think Shawn is done?
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: They are They've all said that he's done.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: Just because the drink. What are you gonna do the
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: next five years? Are you just gonna cut him and
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: eat it? It's which they should have already know.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: They re they did a restructure. Remember they did a restructure.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but there was a point to that. So there
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: had to be some sort of guarantees. I guarantee you
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: there's a back Yeah. I don't know what happens on
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: the backside, I know.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: But like Kirk Cousins, Kirk Cousins in that massive contract
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: that he signed.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: Good, that's bring it about contract.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: That he signed. We have until they well they.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: Have it's a post June first, I think, Well.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: It depends on the money. I think, uh, pre March
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: or at March a cut. At March he makes a
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: certain amount. Post June first.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: He makes a larger amount.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: Yes, so you you kept So you want to cut
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: him early? Okay, he might be an early you want to.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: You want to cut.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Oh he could end up on Tennessee. He could end
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: up in Las Vegas. He could end up anywhere.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: M hm okay.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: So you got New York Giants still looking for a quarterback.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: Well that's the Stafford rumer that it's still they got
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: told me about it. They got the third pick in
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: the draft. What do you do with the third pick?
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: Do you give the Rams a third pick for hold On?
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: Do you give hold On? You give the Rams third
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: pick for Stafford? With the idea that Stafford signs a two.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Year Stafford and takeovers. Oh that says Matthew Stafford. Vikings,
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: who says.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: No, oh that's just that, No, that's not gonna.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Happen, receives hold on this would say the receiver.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: It's like it's late. It's late. It's late. It's a
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: late pick. And you got O'Connell there. I could see that.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, like we talked about like well, like we
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: talked about in Minnesota, just franchise tag h.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: Donald. If you want to keep them, franchise tag, make
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: sure Donald to make sure JJ what happens.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Then you can let Donald go the next season.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because they've got the cat space to do it.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to see because when we looked at it,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: THENDA is there s sorry yeah, Minnesota. So they do
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: have the cap space to work with it. Like I said,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: with Washington and the Miles Garrett issue, Washington has the
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: money to pay Miles.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Garrett to come there.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: He does they do.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: Yes, Now, if you're looking at it, he said he
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: wants to go to change.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: That's a trade though. So you can't just have the money.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: You've got to give up some equity back with it.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Still, but a team.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: Like I said, the teams that could do that would
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: be Detroit. Detroit could give up the trades and still
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: they still have the capital to pay San Francisco.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: Okay, so no, now you can talk about that. That's
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: a good idea because it would from the Philadelphia Eagles
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: to that Super Bowl was huge. So maybe you could
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: offset Detroit's lack of secondary and linebacker. They're not good
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: in the back, They're good in the front four.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: They've got a decent linebacking cor I don't think so.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: I think that's their weakness besides golf. And I've always
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: said that golf just had a bad game.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: Oh you're talking about Detroit.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: Oh, Detroit, Detroit getting getting I'm talking about getting Yeah.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Problem with Detroit.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: The problem with Detroit was massive injuries. What was their secondary?
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: They were down to like fourth string.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: They did have a lot of defense injurines. So maybe
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: if you bring a lot of those maybe if you
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: bring a lot of those guys back, what do you
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: focus on?
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Then right now you don't need anything on offense.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: I now, I agree, I totally agree, unless you need
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: some line help.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: You know, they were back backup lineman anyway, were really really.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: Thought, but I thought their secondary, even though they had
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: a lot of injuries, is very boring. Just just pedestrian, pedestrian.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: Because yeah, they had a massive amount of injuries.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: Then you got Cincinnati, which I must talk about.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati and their defenses needed help for how long?
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: Well not that long, that long because they fired, they fired,
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: they fired.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: And he wouldn't have to move I just because he's
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: already in Cleveland.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: Oh he's not going there. But if he goes to
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: Cincinnati because Cincinnati too cheap, we don't know. I mean,
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: they are, like I've said, Joe Burrows is never gonna
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: go back to Chase still hasn't been signed. Hendrickson still
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: hasn't been signed. That so so those two are huge,
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: and they've got cap space. And even Joe Burrow's come
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: out and like, hey, help a brother out. Hey Joe,
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: you shouldn't have signed so early. Joe, you need to
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: get you. He's gonna request a trade eventually. I've said
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: this already, smoking Joe, that's what he should be doing
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: right now. If smoking Joe, hold on, let me finish.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: When Hendrickson or Chase doesn't sign an extension soon, one
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: of them this year, one of them next year, you're
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: gonna be looking at Joe Burrow going, hey, listen, I'm
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: fucking done trade me or I'm setting out period, and
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: that he's gonna make that call and everyone's gonna come.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: And then you look at who's gonna be available with
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: the cap space that's going to be living up the
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: Rams because they're going to sign somebody short sighted like
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: an Air Rogers or a Sam or a whole let
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: me finish like a Sam Darnhum and who else?
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: Who?
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: What other team is going to be there available that
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: doesn't need a quarterback? Oh wait, the Jets, depending on
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: what he does at Glenn does. You're looking at those
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: two teams and going, oh shit, you haven't bought into
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: a quarterback that you just fell in love with. And
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: where's Joe Burrow go? You know, Saints is another one
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: Kark could get out. Obviously you got the LSU connection.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: Look at those teams like that that's going to be waiting.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: But if Joe Burrow, we're a team player, he is
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: a team.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: You've already dropped Mixon, You've already dropped samon Jay, so
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: you lost your really great running back tandem.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: To bring in Zach Taylor.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: The Bengals are cheap.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Who didn't produce cheap?
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: No, Zach Taylor's produced more than any coach has done that.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: And he's probably back Zach Taylor. Zach Taylor. Now their
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: coach went from Indianapolis.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: To Zach Taylor's.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: I don't think that's his name.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: Wasn't either. So anyways, you get rid of mixing and
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: p Runza Moss. So you get rid of Mexican. Yeah,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: you get rid of you get rid of mixing and
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: and p Run you bring and it didn't work out.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: It has not worked out.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: We could have said.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: Has had an amazing season at even though injury, still
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: had an amazing season. You saw what happened when the
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: Texans were without him. Okay, p run has been integral
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: and certain wins for the.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: Chiefs old but good.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Yes, he uh.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: He did carry a bit of the team whenever he
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: was in Denver, he was he was their workhorse. And
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: so you you you have you have no running back
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: there and you have you I would say almost diva
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: wide receivers, but not really, uh.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: You really they're almost.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: Jar Chase is the best wider. I'd take him over Jeffson,
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: just like that's fine.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: I would too.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, you had what how many games are two
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: hundred and plus yards? Yeah?
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Who calm down there.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: He was my best fucking player.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: So you've got you've got Jamar Chase doing all that
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: work by.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: Himself on the offense. He is the offense.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: Burrow needs to take some of that money that he
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: signed for now.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: I don't say that that's bullshit.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Restructure to help out to get players in there to
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: get I disagree.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: I think I don't look at all the Caps face
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: safe got even with Joe Burrow on the fat contract.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: They were in the top ten, weren't they eleven? Sorry?
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: Eleven?
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: Okay, so they could sign Higgins and what.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: I said, what I'm saying is is is restructure of
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: the fat contract.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: He didn't have to right now because he's early. Even
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: more he's early in his contract, you can still get
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: more bullshit. I mean, it's a cheap team. They're not
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: going to sign them. They get they got rid of
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: mixing that pissed them off already. Now if you get
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: rid of Hendrickson also a possible candidate for Tampa Bay.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: I'm telling you, Gerrick, Sir Henderson, Hendrickson going to be
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: a Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay is right there close. I'm
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: just letting you know to being.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: Bulls as you coach.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean we talked about how his his decisions.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: Have have heard that team?
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I made the playoffs made you know in Washington
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: beat two badass teams, Tampa and Detroit. It's one of
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: those same.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: And and I had called Tampa Washington as being a late,
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: late entry team.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: We all called it. Don't take credit. We both said
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: that Washington was over, so don't act like it was you.
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: We had not talk, not at all, talk at all.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're wrong about that.
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: I talk okay early, let's stop right now. Who's your
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: early team that didn't make the playoffs that might make
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: it next year? Just thinking a little bit, you know,
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: are you gonna pick San Francisco because that's easy? Is
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: that what you're gonna do? I think you would. You
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: would because Rock Party is going to sign a new
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: contract extension.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: Well, the only other teams that we missed. You really
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: want to go down list the teams that we missed.
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: No, I'm just saying something that could come back in
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: there next year. Oh, Green Bay, they made the playoffs.
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: You said they could come back that didn't make the
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: playoffs this year.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, you know, Seattle's kind of right.
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: They're gonna roll back with so Seattle's on that tip. Yeah, right.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: Now, we missed San Francisco, we missed Dallas. I don't
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: see Dallas getting back in.
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: This Oh god, they're done. They're done.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: And uh, that was the only two that we missed
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: for for the.
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: So now we move over. We move over to.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: The a f C.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: Miami, the Jets, Cincinnati, Indianapolis. It's trash Miami, Cincinnati, indian Jacksonville.
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: Did was the one, you know, because they got three
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: teams out of the West, you know, three teams just
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: Houston obviously, and I don't see anybody coming out of
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: the FC South that's going to make the playoffs. You know,
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: you could talk about Jacksonville new coach, Liam coach, he's
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: a bitch and uh and yeah, tacky, tacky. I could
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: see Trevor Lawrence joke trade though I don't know if
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: that was realistic, but about sending him to the Giants,
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: and I'm like to do it, but I woulda Cincinnati,
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: Miami Mia, Miami, Cincinnati is my team that's gonna.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: Bounceam is doing a lot of money cut right.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: As long as Hendrickson gets re signed.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: Well, Miami's doing a lot of money cut right now.
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: Oh, I think that way they could sign pick it. Yeah,
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: you picked that one because I think they're horrible. I
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: think that. I think that's it. I think Mike McDaniel's
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: gonna get fired after this year, maybe midyearsh Mike McDaniel,
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: he's the coach of Josh is the o c at
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: Daniels who brought back the team who brought back.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: I think Michael McDonald's.
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: No. Seattle's close, but the divisions too hard because I
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: do think San Francisco is going to be better. Yeah,
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: and I think are going to be depending on the
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: quarterback issue.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, Shannah john.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: Lynch make it do make a lot of very good
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: decisions to stay relevant.
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: I want you should really record this date on how
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: many time and what date? Because I think when they
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: give brought party about forty million a year, I'm going
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: to set back and go, oh.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: Boy, this is what forty years for three years?
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: Three year on hundred and twenty million? Yeah, she even Christmas?
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: Who else you's gonna pay? You know, Dak Prescott's got
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: the highest next year, he's like ninety million. Nobody cares
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: about the Cowboys because they're done. You know what, I
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: feel bad a little bit about Brian. I know, I
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: don't think he was.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: I think he do you think he's a one year
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: scape goat.
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: One year maybe two. I don't think he was that
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: bad of a hire. I just I thought he hired
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: some good assistance.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: I do he went on a tear higher.
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: That's funny. We'll see how.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: But but what I'm saying is is that do you
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: see him as.
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: But I mean, really, when you talk about the AFC,
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: NFC coul Okay, pick three teams on each side and
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: they're going to be in the fucking Super Bowl next year.
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: NFC Philly Lions, I say, Washington, me too, Tampa before,
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: but I'll go Washington, those three other side, Baltimore Kids' six.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: We're tired of it. That's it. We are so tired
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: of it.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: It's the same as Buffalo breaks our hearts every year.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: What for the what has this been three years?
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: We've been doing this eighty anyway, and Buffalo has.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: Broken our hearts for the last three years.
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: It's like, Josh Allen, you had it this year too,
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: and it was the worst she seem in college.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: I loved watching him in college. It's like, this kid's
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: gonna go.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: Watching him at Wyoming, I'm like, this kid's gonna end
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: up in the NFL and he's gonna be a steal
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: and he was a steal and.
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: He's gonna go he got to be a steal and.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: He was gonna I was like, I figured first three years,
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: four years, maybe he would be in the super Bowl.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: And what's happened?
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: Not yet.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: He runs into Kansas City, runs.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: Into multiple you run into generational team, you.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: Run and Cincinnati has been a bane too. Let's not
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: forget that.
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: Something that thorn it well, I agreed, but think about
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: Joe Burrows. They beat them. Yeah, but you think about
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: all the teams that didn't make it during Brady's years.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: When a good quarterback, Yes, yes, you know, Peyton Manning
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: lost a lot, a lot. Who else am I missing?
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to I'm trying to think.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: There's there who is that one? It was? Peyton was
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: the one that was the most Who was Baltimore? That
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: defense was so good at Baltimore and they really didn't
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: need a big quarterback. But you know, you look at
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: those teams that that Brady was a part of that
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: just missed a lot of games.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: Uh, let's see AFC. Let me.
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: Just yeah, I was trying to think of some teams.
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: Who am I missing because we're missing some big Peyton
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: comes to mind.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: Payton's change is the biggest because it took Peyton a
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: lot just even.
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: Obviously the there was some quarterbacks at this at the Raiders.
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: I no, I don't believe it was you want to
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: try to say Carson Palmer, Andy, Yeah.
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: I mean I had Andy one year in as the
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: Cincinnati that was like fifteen sixteen. They had a really
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: good team.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: Oh it's so uh god, I'm trying to remember all
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: the quarterbacks that we.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: Watched growing up or you know, in that in that era.
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: Oh Rivers, God, that that's another one.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: Oh Philip Rivers the Dan Marine, even though he never
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: made it.
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: To Drew Brees. Okay, so Peyton was number one. Patrick
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: Mahomes Beach is this who I was looking at the
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: a f C generally. Ben Roethlisberger was another one.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, big Ben, big Well, we forgot Big Ben
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: and him used to go out it all the time.
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: Both were AFC losses uh and Andrew Luck, But I
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: don't know Philip Rivers. You know he lost to three
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: times to Brady in the playoffs. Pikes, Steve McNair was
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: the one that was the tuck roll. That was the
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: year that probably the Raiders were the best, and that
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: was that tuck roll. I believe that was Gruden's last
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: year and he left and then went to Tampa after that,
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: if I'm not and Joe Flacco, yes, oh Joe Jojoise
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: that was otherwise just trash on those But yeah, I
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: think that. But but well, I.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: Remember you, we remember sitting there watching it.
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: But Peyton reminds me the most.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: Drew bloodsoe starting at the Patriots and then you know
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: they wont let's bring this kid.
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: Well, Drew got hurt and he never got his job, never.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: Got it back.
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: And it happens.
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, and what was it?
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: Dan Terry was the one that actually take won in
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: the first Super Bowl, wouldn't it? Well?
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: Was that? I think it was the defense. I think
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: they played the Rams. I'm not.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: What I'm saying is Vinitari's field goal?
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think we're scoring Rams who beat my
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: Tampa Bay Bucks like you a really weird. Eleven to
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: six Sean King quarterback corner. Yeah, they only scored eleven points.
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: We stopped him. Defense is bad ass. We had Sean
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: King as our art and that's in the right after
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: that they fired.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's I mean, there's a lot going on right
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: now in free agency.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: We're just setting a lot.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: So we're just we're just waiting to see where the
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: where the piece is flown.
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: Okay, So we haven't really talked a lot about free draft. Yeah,
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: we'll talk about draft.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: I'm saying his draft is in a month.
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: Let's talk about quarterbacks. I mean quarterbacks. So you got Stafford,
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers? Is that the two big ones? Am I
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: missing somebody? Am I missing something?
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: Wilson?
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: Okay?
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: I know that you're also gonna justin.
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: Field those four. So where they end up?
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: One of them is gonna end up in Vegas? Tell
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: you right now, one of those guys ends up in
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: Las Vegas?
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: Okay? Would Russell Wilson not make sense.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: With Pete Carroll him and knowing that he can.
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: What about Aaron Rodgers? I mean, you know Jets are like, hey,
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: we're fucking done. We ain't got a quarterback? Tells you
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: enough about Aaron Rodgers, So Aaron Rodgers, whatever team picks
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: him up, whatever team picks him. No, I don't really
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: think that's the case. I think it's there's gonna have
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: to be a headstrong coach. And that's why I like
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: Vegas in that and I like the Rams Stafford. There's
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: been rumored that he could go Where's.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: He go because they don't have a decent backup for him?
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: Well, no, there's I don't know. They're all pissy about
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: the wife on social media.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: I don't care about the what. But he doesn't have
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: a backup. He doesn't have a decent backup.
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: Who's he? Who's who's he? We're talking about the Rams?
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: If he leaves, who cares about it?
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: But I'm saying the backup on on the Rams, I
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: don't know who has.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: Who is it? That's a minute?
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: Who cares there it is? But I'm just saying they're
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: gonna want somebody, because that's what That's why I'm saying
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: that the Cooper CAP's gone.
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: They're getting ready.
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: They've already said and we'll pay salary, and.
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: They want to send cup to to Pittsburgh.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: Apparently, just if you want to dump somebody you dumping
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh.
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: They seem like the most desperate you just you kill
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: there in Pittsburgh.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do, I do too, So I.
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: Really you know, who's setting pretty right now in the
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: AFC is like you talked about the Ravens and the Bills.
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: They're sitting there going okay, we're fine.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: Kansas City is still okay.
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think they're done.
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: And I'll tell you Chargers are something good too.
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: They need another wide receiver.
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: That's fine, but they also need a really they need
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: that good back as well.
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: You know, Dobbin's played pretty well, statistically, played well. He
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: had some injuries.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: One more, just one more. I think.
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: I think Harball comes in scelet's play a little better defense.
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: Oh no, I in the Brons talking.
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: About Will Disley and you didn't not know who he was.
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: I knew who he was. I didn't think he'd be
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: a pass catcher. He was more of a blocker.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: Oh no, he's past catcher. I knew that. I knew
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: that man is a pass catcher.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: I knew that. I knew that guy draft him.
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: You picked him up late. I never had him, somebody did.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: I never picked the Disley yep, because the first two
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: years that Will Disley was.
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: First to nobody.
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: He was in the league for Seattle.
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: He was a round blocker.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: He would get injured and be out for the season.
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: That was the problem. That's why I don't pick him up.
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: That's why he's a person.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: He's a player that I just don't touch because is
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: he going to be injured?
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: So that's our talking about quarterbacks.
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: So well, I mean, let's get back to that. Where
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: do you think I mean, we'll talk later, but I
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: mean the the you got the bit. You have the
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: biggest free agency. This is actually one of the biggest big.
• 55:59
  Speaker 5: Done.
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: Okay you he retires, No, I think he should be done.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: But he's not gonna be done.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: He's gonna end up out west, somewhere out west.
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: I can't go further east than the Jets.
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: Cute. Cute. I'm just saying, he's not gonna end up
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: in Cleveland even.
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: Than Can you name a worse franchise in the NFL
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: than them? No, you're not even close to You guys
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: know you're better. You're better than Cleveland.
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: No, we're not.
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: Your defense showed some signs you have a You let
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: me talk about my team, and then you signed a
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: coach that's never been a head coach.
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: Let me talk about my team the way I want to.
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: All Right, I'm just saying.
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, Oh, contract wise, definitely Cleveland. If you want
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: to make a massive contract and not have to do anything,
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: no to Cleveland's. If you want to if you want
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: to have like a a rap sheet.
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: Go to Cleveland.
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: Remember whenever, Hey, we haven't even talked about somebody that who.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: Was the coach?
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: Who was the coach Donald who was the coach in
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati that oh went to the playoffs sign pack Man Jones,
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: Like his entire team was like had a rap sheet
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: like everybody.
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: There being the guy before Zach Taylor, I can't oh
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: talk about that melv No, No, it's it's uh no,
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: he's bald and he's African American. Yes, it was like
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: Stu Jackson, Lou Jackson and he went to No, it's
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: uh shit.
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: Anyways, that used to be the worst team. I remember that.
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: So we talked about Stafford, we talked about Rogers. One
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: person we forgot about was Donald.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: Well we mentioned I mean, but we we see him,
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: like I said, we see him staying in you franchise,
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: you go two years, say that it all.
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: Depends on that two years. But you go two years
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: seventy at Tennessee.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be depending on his want to start.
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: To Jackson is what his name is or something something?
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: It's now, it's not merv. They have had three coaches
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: in twenty years, Marvin. Okay, Mars, what about stud wouldn't
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: he there?
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: Mhmm. If he was, he was a gotcha this old
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: Dave shoeless sad watch I remember the same she went.
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: To Tampa after that he did, he really did.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: Didn't didn't have the same magic that he did.
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, he didn't.
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: They really only had ten head coaches. That's crazy.
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: But yes, Marvin Lewis for you. No, no, it depends
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: on Sam Donald's want to start. If Sam Donald really
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: wants to start.
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: There are teams out there that he can go to
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: and he can sign.
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: But they signed him cheap. He had a good year.
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: I mean, I mean what teams want to do that.
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: There are teams that he can do that. He can
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: do it in Tennessee. He can go to Cleveland.
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: And what do you sign them at Tennessee? Give me
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: a give me a number. If you're GM, you're looking
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: at Sam.
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know what.
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know what. I don't know what. The base
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: is right now?
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: Base of what? You just sign him anything you want,
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: not a base to sign them. You have, you have
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: a basis, so you don't you just sign him to whatever.
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: You could sign a guy to three year, six million dollars.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: You have, you have the amount of years that you've
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: been in.
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: It's a minimum of like too many years or whatever.
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: It doesn't matter, you're not.
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: Going to sign you.
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: Look at him, look at a base. He's not getting all.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, I'm saying you look at it.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: And then you say, okay, you're talking he's had one
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: good season his entire career.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: Ah, that's what I'm asking. What do you do?
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: So does a three year twenty million too much?
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: That's what you say?
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: I said, is it?
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: Do you think that's too much?
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: No? I mean is that? I mean? Is that what
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: you're basing that on? He went thirteen and three?
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: Who had one good You've had one good season your
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: entire career.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: He signed for ten million this year, one year, ten million?
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: All right?
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: I think I think that's what he did. Hold on,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: I think that's what it was. I didn't live at well,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying you had one good season, you backloaded
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: with incentives.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: Since Margove spread to be over one hundred and sixty
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: million or four years, so that's that's the Daniel Jones.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: Yes, all right, I guess you signed him to the
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: Daniel Jones.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: Give him the ld Jones.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: So I get so if he makes, if he So
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: the franchise tag is about you said forty, I said forty.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: I think it's going to be higher about fifty.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: Like I said, take that franchise and just see.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: What it hasn't signed a four year one eighty so
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: that's fifty forty five is at forty five? Nine, Yeah,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: it's forty five.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: Remember he's getting cut, so that's out of that matter.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: He sucks. But anyway, yes, yes, but I was trying
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: to find out what the damn what the free or
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: what the what do we call it?
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: The the one year? What did what the franchise franchise?
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, projected price tag match eesier man, I don't
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: know anyway, you said, what three year twenty million, seven million?
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: There's not a fucking chance backups making agents.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: Take quarterback franchise tag thirty.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: Nine million, close to forty. That's Daniel Jones. Yes, but
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: that's only one year. That's only one I get it,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: all right, So just give him the goddamn one year forty.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: Give him one year forty.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: But what if he finds a team for two year
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: at seventy?
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: Did you do that?
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: Yes, But it all depends on his want to start,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: If he wants to start, if he doesn't believe that
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: he's not gonna be coming in.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: As the starter and they're gonna have J. J.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: McCarthy, Well, they know more than as the back. They
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: knew everybody, everybody. I mean McCartney was kicking his ass
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: in off season. I mean that was he was gonna
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: be the starter. I mean, but McCartney in a real game,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: fucking way different matter. Look at Sam Donald, I mean
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: you know, I mean you look at pull up the schedule,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: pull up, pull up, pull up the Vikings biking schedule
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: this year, just the Vikings, you know, win losses, who
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: they played.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: In the scores.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: I think that Sam Donald maybe got a little more credit.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: I mean, you got one of the best oc minds.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: What do they play? And so look at the scores,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: I mean, and we saw him.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: All right. So here it is, let's go the top.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: The top is the end. This is the beginning of
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: the season. Okay, thirty one to nine loss to Detroit. Okay,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: you win two points twenty seven to twenty five to
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: the Packers. You win three points twenty seven to twenty
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: four to Seahawks.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: You were getting ready fill a lot of trash teams.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: Right, So you get thirty one, you get thirty to
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: twelve Bears, forty two to twenty one trackings and how
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: much do we realish that? Twenty three twenty two to
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: the Cardinals trash and then you only beat the Bears
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: by three.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: Then you have twenty three thirteen to the Titans.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: Which are trash, twelve to seven Jaguars trash, twenty one
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: to thirteen Colts. Good, you lose thirty to the Rims.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: You learn you lose by.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: Two to the Lions team anyway.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: Then you go on to beat the Jets twenty three
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: to seventeen. There's there's no blowout here.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: The Packers was.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: Houston was the biggest blowout. Houston was the biggest.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: And and they and they and they struggled, and.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: I forgot who they had were missing.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: That Listen Vikings, get rid of Sam Darnold, let them walk.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: Don't sign them for anything anything save the money. You've
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: got a ship ten of caps.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: A defensive coordinator.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: They bring Florest and that Florest is he still there?
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: Brian Flores? Uh? And they improved.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: It looks like it looks like a defend You remember,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: you remember you remember that year they went to the
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: playoffs and we were laughing and they were like, this
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: is the worst defensive team in the playoffs.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: Spend and they won with a kick. Spend some money
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: on some defensive players. Get a running back. They definitely
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: need a running back. Who they have as a running
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: back this year they got rid of Matson because they
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: two years ago.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: Aaron Jones, I liked him.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: I thought he did okay injury pro true, But bring
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: out another guy, Maybe draft a guy you really fourteen
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: and three are right there. Look gent look at the
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: points four and points against. Now you beat Green Bay.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: Obviously it's exactly Look at the offensive versus Yes, exactly,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: Darnald late the guy, Uh, move on, don't spend stupid money.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: That's what I mean.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: The fact that Chicago points four points against was only sixty.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: Well, I just don't spend see that.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying. If you look at Chicago
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: who was five and twelve.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: Now you're contract if you want to bring him a
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: three year twenty one million for that, yes, like that
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: three years. It's like fuck that ship or are you
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: going to go? You're gonna take the Tennessee route.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: You know he got up in Cleveland as well.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: Ah, the Cleveland deals you I don't even focusing on.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: I don't even know. I don't even it's done. I
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: don't even I know. I know, I know it's in
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: the done, but you just can't. That's why I love
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: the free agency. The free agency is going to start.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: I think it's the twelfth of March, and then you've
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: got the Draft at the end of the in the
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: April and.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: Combines coming up, which you know Travis Hunter smartly went
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: in as a defensive back.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: So we talked about that.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: We talked about how weird quarterback class this year, Kim.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: What we talked about the Giants Back to the free agency.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: Giants have the three pick. Did I talk to you,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: We talked about Stafford would you give that up? Did
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: you say that or did you just not talk you
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: don't answer me answered no, I mean would you, as
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: the Giants, would you give the third pick up for Stafford?
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: I guess you bring in an old man and wait
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: till two years down the road when better call? Maybe
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: one maybe one year?
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, anyways, you wait till there's better quarnerback coming out.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: It's a weird draft. You can get a lot of
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: good players last you know later.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: Where is the here we are?
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: I'm wanna pick uh It's it's been a toss up
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: because Tennessee needs a quarterback, Cleveland needs a quarterback.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: New York Giants need a quarterback. Travis Hunter could fall
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: to four.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: No, he won't, oh yeah, to the Patriots.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: He could.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: He could fall to the Patriots quarterback.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: Raiders need a quarterback, Jets need a quarterback. There's also trades.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: We don't know what the trades are gonna look like
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: right now. His best fit, I guarantee his best fit
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: would be like Carolina.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: Oh, I like the Jets.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: His best I know he's not U.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: But there's also talk that New York is just gonna
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: tough it out for another season.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: And you know, oh, I don't I disagree. I think
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: that tough enough. I think that I think the GM
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: and Dave Ball, I think it's Shane, it's his name, John.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: I know they're gonna have to make a bold move,
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: and I think that's why Stafford keeps getting brought up.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: Okay, so Stafford gets but you're not giving up a
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: first round and you can take You're not.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: Going to But that's what the Rams are gonna want
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: to suggest, you.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: Know, But but do these But does.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: Does Tennessee trade out that first round?
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: God?
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: I would you still got will Evis.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: If you could get hold on what would you do?
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: Would you do three ones?
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: And a shitty team I'm gonna do. You can't no, no, no, no,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: you can't do it, Chiefs. You can't do something like that.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: You've got to roll in with a how about if
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: the Raiders or the Panthers want to move up that
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: then you take it a franchise a normal and then
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: you gotta get You've got to get somewhere in the
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: top ten as a replacement.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: And then you and then and then you got to
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: remember that you're gonna you're gonna trade fourth rounds somewhere.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: Yes, but you you need a good first back right,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: and then the next or whatever it's.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: It's NFL is so weird with how you draft baseball basketball.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: You just give everybody your.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: First rounds and that that shout out to twenty eight.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: He's like, the same way, Just just give them the
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: first round to be done. We're just doing so all right.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: The UFL starts March twenty eight.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: I don't care.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: You don't.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: Everybody cares about it.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: All right. What do you got for the other news?
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: We have done nothing.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: To you love No. I think football is king.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: We just did We just did nothing with our football.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: We did that's good. Thunder yay going into the All
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: Star break. Lost last night to the Timberwolves. It's fine.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: Crazy we come back big time against the It's going
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: to be very disappointing if the Thunder don't at least
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: make it to the championship game.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: They're set up very disappointed they don't make it to
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: the title That's what I'm saying.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: The championship game. Oh, the title game. Sorry, the title
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: Miles Garrett to the books mentioned that I'm just kidding back, Hey,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: shack the t n T. That was funny, you women.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love shock.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: Softball's undefeated.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 6: Women just today or tonight to u c l A
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 6: fantastics for Porter? Yeah, yeah, I'm he went into one
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 6: of the toughest conferences.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: I love to hire, and they just look like.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: Shit, you went in undefeated, you drop four, you win one,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: you listen one.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: Porter is going to be fired if he didn't make
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: the tournament. He might be fired if he does make
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: the tournament. Animals is oh, And then you had the
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: demark and I love oh you don't we are o
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: you lovers?
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: What's going on with DeMarco?
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: Are you talking to Penn State or you want another raise?
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: I'm kind of borderline done with that a little bit.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: Why Why is this is? Why? Why is this something
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: that just keeps getting brought up? Now, if DeMarco, if
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: you didn't touch it, if you didn't talk, and it's
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: just a rumor, good for you. But if you're talking,
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 3: why why is this an issue? This is the second
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: year in a row. First it was Ohiowa State, Now
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: it's Penn State. What's next year? And then he stays
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: and it's like, do you want to raise? I mean
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: it's kind of borderline. God.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: Still, I'm still of course about the gym. Knowles choice
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: Penn States.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: Why he's from there, he's from there, He's got he's
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: from there.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: Mine is it is mine against Penn State.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: Well, Franklin's got a longer contract than I thought. Penn
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: State making a great heart. I think they're getting ready
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 3: to spend a bunch of money. They make the playoffs
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: and I think you watch next year, that's one team
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: that doesn't sniff anything. Yeah, I can see that because
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: the schedule, schedules are going to change quite a bit.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen. I haven't seen, because you know.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: Your rot the schedules sim is not going to rotate
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: like the SEC where we have the same schedule next year,
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: big ten changes.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: A lot of a lot of schedules have been released.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: Are drill. I'm just not sold on.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: Like the fact that they brought the running backs back.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: They're talking, you know, top ten quarterback.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: I just I don't love the running backs, and I
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: do like.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: To talk about Penn State defense. It's always going to
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: be that they brought the high State's interesting. You know,
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: chip Kelly got the O c AT and and then
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: the defensive coordinator Knowles lift to Penn State, and of
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: course the promoter heartline, who's a good records? Your coordinators?
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 3: How does it?
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: What does it say as a coach, you're not.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: It's it's well, one went to the NFL, so you
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: can't back for the NFL back to the and which good? Uh?
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: Losing him to a.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: T that was.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: What does that say about?
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Does that say there's something in the
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: culture up there, there's something going on? I would agree
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: I might find that out. I would agree with that.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm gonna go up there in April.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 3: Of course, you know you talk about, oh you we
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: lost our DC and he went to West Virginia.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what what is up with our culture?
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: And then our head coach goes, hey, I'll call the place,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: which is great?
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: Well, he did try, he did Troy.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: Then Knowles deal was I think you kind of wonder
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: look at that with the Knowles deal more of a
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: push by upper management.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe I don't know what's going on
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: in college football is in disarray.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: Until we get done with his n.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: I L transfer double two transfer portals, I'm with I
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: am with them.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: On Uh, it's got to be after the ball game
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: spring transfer port get rid of the one that's the
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: only one.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: If you want to keep the two transfer portals, Okay,
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: do you one in January?
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: Keep no hold on?
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: Keep the one transfer portal for baseball. Talking about fall gymnastics,
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: if you want.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: To have, if you want to spring and fall.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't like the war. I agree, but but
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: I know, but that's what I'm saying, So you need
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: to Okay, Spring is for football and did a couple
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: other sports.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: Fall is only for these sports.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: Gotcha, we could do that.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you keep, you can keep, but just say, okay,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: you can only transfer if you play.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: I just don't like the whole thing about the transfer portals.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: I don't like the timing right after the season ends.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: That's like you're going to.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: And everybody's done, and the kids.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: Of course, that is a bidding war though.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: You've got kids setting up for that, You've got kids
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: setting out to go pro, you kids coming back, You've
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: got uh now well, and also we forget that this
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: season that college football went through the cutdown of the
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: roster and that's why, oh you lost a.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: Couple to only turn around and company to go back. Yeah, correct,
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: so we do have that. I mean, I just I
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: love This is my not favorite time of year, because
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: my favorite time of.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: Years because starting.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: It's the free agency is what are you going to spend?
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 3: How are you going to make better? How can we
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: critique you?
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: And oh the combine starting and who's coming out?
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: And so what about hold on a couple of teams
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: that I think has got a little bit of talent.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: I want to name three teams. We'll talk about it
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: next week. Three teams, No, I can tell I remember
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 3: the Colts is.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: One massive talent that that just was on what they do.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: I'm Arizona Cardinals.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: That's my second.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: Very good talent. Where as they go forward to take
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: a step back?
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: And then where does the Raiders fit in new coaching?
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 3: Good defense? The defense is good, they've always struggled on offense.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: That's the three teams that make me and and I
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 3: can slide the Patriots in there because that's pretty good
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: and they've got money and they've got money. Okay, what's
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 3: the fifth?
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: So we've got number one Colts, Arizona, you're right, Just
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: number three Las Vegas, number four New England and number
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: five on you know I have a playoff team, don't
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: I would say Seattle? They're they're on the outskirts. Okay,
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: Seattle was a very surprising team this year.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, didn't make the playoffs and I.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: Picked and you said don't You said, don't name a
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: playoff and they didn't. But that's what I'm saying. They
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: are a very surprising team. They beat teams they weren't
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: supposed to and then they lost the teams that they were.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: It was so much better than I forgot.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: I saw that come through.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 3: Uh well, I think and and then I think it's right?
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 3: Is like A'm sorry? Is uh oh?
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 5: Clint Kubia, Yeah, Kurt and his his dad would be
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 5: the Kubiak that used to be at Din Mike QB,
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 5: Jim K.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: But what my deal is is, is Gino Smith back?
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: I again, question Drew lock, Tyler Lockett, h d J, Matt.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 3: Or d K.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of there's a lot of a lot
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: is going to be.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: Back because I think that we don't have an option
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 3: we're not.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: Looking at is not bad, We're not looking at Seattle,
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: but we don't even understand.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: Hey, guess what, there's a lot of questions with that.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: Team right now. Who's coming back because those guys are
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: aging out?
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: Well, Smith and good. Tyler Lockett's good, he's older. Who's that?
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: That's the deal?
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: Alexander, that's Alexander. Yeah. He was the kid that they
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: had Sharboney who would run? He did okay, but there
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: was the kid that was in front of him. And
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: I forgot that guy's name because Kenneth Walker. Oh yeah,
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: of course, because remember Zach had no Michigan. I believe.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 3: All right, Well, tough division, though it depends on what
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 3: the Rams do. You said San Francisco and ask what
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: are they gonna do? That was the most disappointing team.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: And that's what I love is because you got the
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 3: Rams San Francisco and then the Cardinals kind of get
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: fucked because you know that that that is just a
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: good division.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: It's funny that we picked two teams in the top
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: five from the same division.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: Yes, correct, because that's the most I mean you look
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: at it and you think, can they best what else
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: you've got, which is kind of trash, which I would
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: like to go back and probably maybe pick the Falcons
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: at six because I think with uh Phoenix as the
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: full time but you're gonna think generational running back, think
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: about what happened, don't like their coaching staff.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: But the l a Ms we have the l a
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: Rams picked low because they lost a lot of guys.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: We pick the on them. Yes, even with the rookies
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: coming to Minzona, we picked no.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, you've got Stafford, You've got mc bay, you
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 3: got Puka Cup he's leaving, and then you've got who's
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 3: the running backs that everyone loves, William wils Yeah. So
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: I mean we thought that they would be better, and
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: they were. But the Stafford deal is going to be
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 3: interesting to see what they do. I love that aspect
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 3: of the dramaticness of that go Thunder going to All
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: Star Break first in the West, lost the last one.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 3: I think you're back six seven games that we didn't
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 3: talk about the Luca trade. Luca, if Anthony Davis, hold
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 3: on real quick, if Anthony Davis stays healthy, he's not
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: He's already injured.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 5: I know, I know.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 3: If he stayed healthy and it's the season is not over,
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 3: it's best for Dallas to win in two years. I
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 3: thought that Luca was a future. I think Lebron's leaving.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 3: I think Luca was the future, and Lebron's like, I'm
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: not playing with him or I'm going somewhere else where
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 3: does he go? That's interesting. I thought the Jimmy Butler
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 3: trade to Little Golden State was interesting only because that
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 3: Durant was like, I'm not fucking going back there, and
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 3: I love that, and I'm not a big Kevin Durant fan,
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 3: but he was.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 5: He was.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 3: I love that he said that I'm not doing it,
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 3: so all right, I love y'all see it. We'll see
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: you next week.