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- Slim Pushins: What's up everybody? Welcome to another episode of Garage Beers Whiskey Tequila and Happy Dads. Jim Gardner: Mm-hmm. Slim Pushins: I don't know what Jim's doing. as always, my co host that nobody knows this yet, but this guy is gonna be on the next episode of Love on the Spectrum, Corby Scherb Corby Scherb: Mm. Jim Gardner: Wow. Slim Pushins: And The guy that led the first half of every first h half of the laps in Ardmore last weekend, Jimmy James Gardner. Corby Scherb: James Gardner. Slim Pushins: Too soon? Is it too soon? Corby Scherb: No, it's not too soon yet. Jim Gardner: Yeah, it's a little soon. Thanks. Corby Scherb: No, man. I was probably Slim Pushins: Well, we're doing it. Jim Gardner: Wanna one in there? Corby Scherb: the only one, like we're gonna go ahead and start this. I I know I I had to check on Jim Sunday morning. I said, You okay, buddy? Just text him Jim Gardner: I was fine. Went in there and Corby sherbed it down there in turn one and two and That was all she wrote. Corby Scherb: Just ran out of just ran out of talent, huh? Jim Gardner: Yep, exactly. Slim Pushins: What happened? do we wanna t is this how we wanna open the show or is this are you gonna be okay? Jim Gardner: No, it's not how I wanna open the I mean, yeah, I'm fine. I'm fine. I got home, I was mattered in a hornet's nest. Corby Scherb: Did you do something like I would do, like starved yourself the next day? Jim Gardner: No no, 'cause like my kid was having a tough night and so I ended up having to hold her. Like it it was just back to a normal day. She didn't care that I was bummed. Corby Scherb: So at least like you had something to take your mind off of it. Jim Gardner: Yeah. You know, two thirty in the morning. I'm sitting in a Slim Pushins: Until Corby texted you. Jim Gardner: rocking chair holding her. And then you know, Corby Scherb: Amy, Amy with the jokes. Jim Gardner: watching Slim Pushins: No, he didn't hit a tractor tire. Jim Gardner: It was the opposite. I I barely missed it. Drove out of it. But anyway, I was mattered in a hornet's nest, back there. pissed away, a good opportunity there and The wheels came off. the wheels came off. Corby Scherb: No, okay, so let let's just talk about it, man. Let let's just be racer to racer, man. What's it like leading a feature like Slim Pushins: Lay it all out there. Corby Scherb: that? Like what what goes through your head, Jim, as, you know I I'm I'm not I'm not talking crap at all in any way, but like you haven't won Jim Gardner: No, I know. Corby Scherb: a feature and to to feel as good as what you did, 'cause the car was the car was great, everything was going right. you you took the lead from the first slap and was truly I I watched you like settle into a rhythm. Jim Gardner: yeah, we it was cruise control and Corby Scherb: What's it w Mm-hmm? Jim Gardner: car was awesome. I want to give a shout out to Bates and and Jeb. you know, the last month or month and a half, we've been really good and done a lot of brainstorming and and picking, you know, making decisions that that were calculated and understanding that hey, if we miss, we're gonna miss this way. We had the car rip roaring Saturday night. And just sitting there cruising, you know, running the top there. And Corby Scherb: I gotta turn on a light, hold on. It's getting dark. Keep going. Jim Gardner: And you know, every every time off a turn four I was able to peek left and kind of see that we weren't really being challenged and was feeling really good until the yellow came out. And then you know, under the yellow, start kind of psyching myself out trying to think, you know, when they call over the receiver, it's fifty-one and behind you is the eighty-eight R and the thirty-three. And the thirty-three car is won about fifty races at Ardmore and The only race is the thirty three doesn't win, the eighty eight R is one, you know, and I think Ryder, of anybody in our area, I don't f I think Ryder has probably got the best race craft of anybody. you know, with all his three sixty national tour stuff. So I was little intimidated there. Knew I had to get a good restart and Thought I had a good restart and then the motor kind of stumbled, which I think was user error. I think I was pacing too slow or I didn't do enough to charge up the the stumble valve or something happened and it stumbled real bad. And decided I was gonna slide myself down on one and two, which I did, and and thankfully that protected the lead, but like a dummy. I just went right back up to the top in three and four because I had no plan. Like I had no plan beyond turn one and two. And I just gave the race away. I flat out gave it away. Gary slid Corby Scherb: Yeah. Jim Gardner: me and then Ryder slid both of us and I knew I had given the race away at that moment and I was just pissed off. And it was a hundred percent user error. Then I got to overdrive and tried to really rip the top down there in one and missed it and blew it over the top and Spun it out and probably should have just pulled it right to the trailer and I was pissed off. I was trying to drive back through the pits and there were stock cars like staggered all through the lineup shoot, and I was bobbing and weaving through there. Finally had to yank it out of gear. Dog cussing everybody and everything I could see. Kevin Laplante was there trying to calm me down and ended up driving like a total moron the last twelve laps. Slim Pushins: Cory, are you in the middle of a washing machine? Corby Scherb: This is an ice machine, but Jim Gardner: And luckily Slim Pushins: Sounds like you're on the factory floor. Jim Gardner: luckily I wasn't lucky I didn't get anybody the last half of the race because I was kind of seeing red and driving way over my head and I remember like sliding Casey Merrell real bad and then he drove out from under me and I was like, Holy crap, I'm gonna wad somebody up. We just need to get out of here. So Slim Pushins: Corby will be the first to tell you you cannot drive pissed off. Jim Gardner: Yep, exactly. Like I was just I was I was not in a good frame of mind and it was a hundred Slim Pushins: So so when you went over the burn Jim Gardner: percent user error. Like that was you know, it's easy to think like I'm mad because I spun out from third and now I'm running nineteenth. And I'm telling you, the disappointment of second or nineteenth was gonna be the same. 'Cause I gave that I felt like I gave that race away. just with Slim Pushins: That makes sense. Jim Gardner: not not Corby Scherb: Yeah. Jim Gardner: using my head. so Corby Scherb: 'Cause what's what's the oldest saying that Jim Gardner always tells us, like there's there's a point you can only go so fast with the car that you have right now. Like you you Jim Gardner: Yeah. Like Corby Scherb: you only have this. And if people start driving by you either like change something, do something different, but like that's what you have tonight. And if you got a third Jim Gardner: Yeah. And I just Corby Scherb: place car, you got a third place car. Now I know it sucks, man, like I've been in that position where you just you feel like you're Invincible and then the caution comes out. I I I do. I remember my first ever feature win and I I'm sure Chad's not on right now. And I remember them reading the lineup back to me and the first car behind me was the number twenty and I'm like, We're done. There's no way. And all I could do was just like stick to my guns Jim Gardner: Yeah. Yeah. Slim Pushins: We're done. Corby Scherb: and do the exact same thing. Jim Gardner: I was thinking the same thing in the stands at Kennedale that night too. No, you do Slim Pushins: Well done. Corby Scherb: We're done. We're there's no way. There's no way. Jim Gardner: a good job. So anyway, it was really disappointing. it was really encouraging to, you know, our car was fast, Bates was fast. and you know, we've made good strides, but you just don't get, you know, especially when you're like me, you race six, eight times a year, you just don't get many opportunities to redraw the front row, and I've just felt like I pissed it away. in a in probably the best opportunity I've had to to close one out and I just I didn't get the job done and it was very disappointing for for me, you know, just letting feeling like I was letting everybody down because a lot of people make sacrifices and and and commitments to to try to help me in the deal and it just it just got it unraveled. it unraveled there a Saturday night, but enough about my Swan song. Let's talk about the winners. okay. Slim Pushins: Wait, hold on. I think when you so I didn't know w so I was watching your mother's live because I refused to add a whole nother subscription to watch just a couple of tracks. Jim Gardner: Three races a year. Yeah. Slim Pushins: Yes. So I I was watching your mother's live and I it was hard to tell. It was kind of dusty. but she was sitting on the front stretch grandstands on the end of the track where you went over the berm. And Did you go did you go front wheels first over the did you spin down that berm? Like I knew you didn't Jim Gardner: So I Slim Pushins: flip because it didn't look like that, but based on what you just said, like you st it was running and still in gear? Jim Gardner: Yeah, so I got over the top and I crested the berm and I was going right for that tractor tire and there was nothing I could do about it. Like it was just gonna hit there and I could either yanked it right hard and dukes a hazard it over the the edge, but I just locked it down. Luckily I run a little tiny master cylinder, so when I stand on the brakes, the thing about spins out. And so I was able to stand on the brakes and get it kind of looped around and did a three sixty with it rolling back down the hill. And then I yanked it out of gear and shut it off. Slim Pushins: So did they did somebody push you on the backside of the burn? How did you get how did you Jim Gardner: I got no, Corby Scherb: Wesley Jim Gardner: I got I got down to the pit Corby Scherb: act Wesley came and met him. Jim Gardner: I I got down to the pit lane on my own. 'Cause I yanked it out of gear. Yeah. Corby Scherb: Yeah, me and Wesley were standing and I like, Wesley, go get him. make sure that he doesn't just go back to the trailer because it I mean I know Jim Gardner, he was probably just headed to the trailer at that point. Jim Gardner: I was yeah, I was worried about power rankings. Corby Scherb: Mm-hmm. Jim Gardner: And so no, I was able to yank it out of gear and roll down the hill all the way down in the pit lane, get it back locking in gear, and then just screaming bloody murder at somebody to come push me off. So but yeah, no, I didn't flip over, I didn't even hit anything. I just spun it out, stood on the gas or stood on the brakes, then stood on the gas and kind of drove into a three sixty over the berm. So it only hurt Slim Pushins: Corby's been on that burn before. Jim Gardner: yeah, the only Corby Scherb: No, I was a little farther down. Jim Gardner: It was a little different in that scenario, but yeah, luckily didn't tear anything up, just bruised bruised ego. No. Slim Pushins: Did so did you catch air? Did you catch air over the berm? Corby Scherb: No, it was Jim Gardner: No, I was just up there, up there kind of off camber, couldn't get it, you know, trying to get it back on the racetrack to the last second, and then just bailed and yanked on the brakes and thwung it out. Slim Pushins: Yeah, I saw you fighting it. I I actually now that I'm playing it back in my head, I I thought that you went over the burn backwards, kinda like Braxton did a few weeks ago, but I thought I I knew that I Jim Gardner: I was less comm like, yeah. Slim Pushins: I figured that you didn't hurt the car. I know both your mom and dad headed over there looking for you for Jim Gardner: Yeah. Slim Pushins: like ten minutes, and then I guess found out that you were back on the track. Jim Gardner: Yeah. yeah, I I I wish I'd have just pulled it in. So 'cause it was embarrassing. Yeah, I sorry, Kevin. I owe you an apology and I owe you a thank you 'cause he was about the only one I who understood what was going on back there in stock cart hell and he came back. I think he might even push me off or or something because it was clogged up back there and I was I was a really upset at myself. but I was taking it out on anything that was moving. So anyway, but a good win. Slim Pushins: Well, Kevin's Kevin's used to Kevin's used to having a driver that's grumpy and and you know Jim Gardner: Not on Saturday nights at Southern Oklahoma Speedway. That place is his his own personal playground most of these times. I I was looking back at my race pass today and I think he's won like five or six races there in the last three years. They only run three a year, you know. Corby Scherb: Yeah. Jim Gardner: he's been he he's just awesome there. And that's why when they're on the receiver calling out the lineup, you're like, Well, shit. This is gonna be a problem, you know? And you know It just didn't work out for me, but we'll love to fight another day and go for another one. But Ryder LePlant gets the big win. again, Saturday. They were perfect all night. the only imperfection I saw out of that 88R camp was Kevin backed into a jersey barrier with the trailer leaving. Don't think I didn't see that shit, Kevin. Slim Pushins: I really really. Jim Gardner: Yeah, just used as a little bumper, a little love tap. Boom. You know, they had their typical pit spot right behind the concession stand and kind of just backed it up and I kind of saw it because I think I was walking around pacing, you know, grumbling to myself, having a beer. And I tried to flag him down, but Slim Pushins: I'm pretty sure that's exactly how it went. Jim Gardner: but he he had it he he couldn't see me in his mirrors and I could see it coming and he just gave it a little tap and didn't knock it over or anything. But Corby Scherb: Just let him know that he was there. Jim Gardner: but it would have definitely failed a C DL license exam. So Slim Pushins: Wow. We're just we're just going we're just going all out, calling people out today, aren't we? Jim Gardner: Yeah. Anyway. I think I was the only person to see it. We could have kept it private, but that's what the podcast is for. Anyway. but yeah. So Slim Pushins: so Rider One, do you have the do you have that side by side? No, go Corby Scherb: Joe Witch Jr. ran second. Jim Gardner: Yeah, so Slim Pushins: ahead, Corby. Jim Gardner: no go go ahead, Court. Yeah. Corby Scherb: You got you got it well, I thought we were gonna talk about, you know, the the last slap went in by point zero one five. You know. Y'all didn't see that? Yeah I know that you were super upset in that moment and sadly, Jim Gardner: no, I was three quarters of a lap down 'cause I was so awful in the rubber I just went back up to the top where it was two seconds slower. Just 'cause I knew nobody else would be there. Corby Scherb: Braxton Braxton got tangled up in in a crash and so we were trying to piece the car back together and so I climbed up on top of his trailer to watch Ryder there at the end and and he came up with a line about three laps before the end and realized that he could it th the track took rubber and he realized that he could just exit turn two a little higher and it was like Joe Woods was kinda kinda guarding the bottom just to make sure no one got up the inside of him. And Ryder just sat there and just, you know, waited his time and gave it a shot on the last line. What do you got to lose in that moment? And like you said, I mean Ri Ryder has more racecraft than any kid his age should truly have. And yeah. yeah. Jim Gardner: He has done this sin in three years since we've known him with with not getting held up, getting through traffic well, not make a mistake. Like he's he is the best around here. As far as racecraft goes, he might be the best of anybody we race with. Corby Scherb: I mean he's good. He's he's he he's slowed down a whole lot and just focused on the the small things that he could do better and he's really good, man. When the track gets technical like that and took rubber around the bottom and realized that you could open up your entry that much, it's it's tough to beat a guy in second who's as smart as a guy like Rider the Plan. Jim Gardner: Yep. Yeah. Ryder's like I said, Ryder's racecraft is second to none right now. So well yeah, I didn't eat Corby Scherb: The kid. I know he loves that nickname. The kid. Jim Gardner: I didn't even know that it was point zero one five. Slim Pushins: It's it is what it is now. Everybody knows it. Corby Scherb: Yeah man, it was super close, man. I I about fell off the trailer watching it. Jim Gardner: Yeah, I had no idea. I was back there in La La Land, b basically just dog cussing myself to to death. So trying not to run over people who didn't deserve to be run over. So Corby Scherb: Yeah. Slim Pushins: That's that's exactly why none of us called you on the way home. Jim Gardner: Yes, thank you. Well, luckily I rode Corby Scherb: We just let Jim Gardner: home with Bates and his dad. So Tom Tiger Tom Bates was devastated for me. He was like, Man, I was I wanted Justin to win, but then you started pulling away and I was really wanting you to win. I thought he was gonna shed a tear, but no, he just Slim Pushins: I mean let's be real. Jim Gardner: fired up another marble red. Slim Pushins: Let's be yeah, let's be real. Two beer Tom has seen a lot of disappointment in his day. Jim Gardner: Yeah, no, but Justin was really good. I said I want to make sure I give him credit because you know the last six weeks or so we've really got these cars figured out and it and it I need to work on his stuff and and and he's been really good and precise and understand where his car's got weaknesses and where it's got strengths and and maximized it. So he was really good on Saturday as well. Made a a mistake, I guess, midway and lost a bunch of spots, but ended up finishing either sixth or seventh. We don't really know, based on the result. Slim Pushins: Well, we know. My race pass doesn't know. Jim Gardner: Yeah. So let me pull that up. You guys got anything else about the race at Ardmore? It was awesome. Again, I love Ardmore. Corby Scherb: Racetrack was good. Jim Gardner: the racetrack was it took rubber late, but it typically does there. And it was 110 Corby Scherb: It does. Jim Gardner: degrees and it hasn't rained in a month. So you'll have that. it was super racy. Slim Pushins: we talked Corby and I talked to Corby and I talked to Kevin Rutherford earlier and I didn't because because I was watching your mother's live and because her baby boy did what he did, the the live was choppy and so it wasn't like the full race. But Rutherford told Corby and I this Corby I'm assuming assuming already knew, but I guess the track went red for like thirty seconds and then fired everybody back up. Corby Scherb: They did good. Braxton and Gary Owens got Jim Gardner: Yeah. Yeah. Corby Scherb: got hung together and they they just threw the red to make everyone stop so that you don't have that moment of, Did I put enough fuel in? No. and they they Jim Gardner: It Corby Scherb: did good. Jim Gardner: yeah, it was it was f it they probably didn't ha they should have either done it three laps of caution before or not done it because by the time I got stopped and I Corby Scherb: Mm-hmm. Jim Gardner: was running last, the cars were unhooked and they were pushing but people back off again. So anyway, you'll have that. I mean what's that's not really a big deal. So and I and they hit hard. I don't know what happened with Gary. It looked like Gary got turned around and Braxton said that everybody just kind of parted and And he didn't even see Gary there and and piled in. Corby Scherb: Joe Woods Junior threw an absolute bomb on on Gary Jim Gardner: okay. Slim Pushins: Let's give Corby Scherb: there. And I don't know if Gary got on the brakes or if he just turned left too hard and ended up spinning it out and then did the right thing, just stomp on the brakes and stop where he was at and the Jim Gardner: Yeah. Corby Scherb: waters parted and Braxton was doing really good, man. I I think that he's really started trying to like listen and like understand, like, if we got a fifth place car tonight, that's what we got. He he was he was going really good, man, and he was just sitting there waiting for him. Like I said, I kinda planned on the racetrack taken rubber and so his car was really gonna be good after that. And sadly, he Jim Gardner: Didn't get there. Corby Scherb: put put it on the hook again. So Jim Gardner: Yeah, didn't get Slim Pushins: But on the bright side Jim Gardner: there. Slim Pushins: on the bright side everybody got walking tacos. I'm really sorry that I missed walking tacos. Jim Gardner: Yeah, well so you know, we pitted, we were trying to pit next to you guys, and and I guess Rhett doesn't like me or whatever. 'cause I was like, hey, I was flagging Rhett down, like, hey, Corby Scherb: Yeah, Red was tearing for you. Slim Pushins: There's if we just went through the pits Jim Gardner: pit here. And they pitted there, and then I went to go draw in. I came back and they were down in the next section. I was like, all right. And but Slim Pushins: Silent silent bomb doesn't like a lot of people. Jim Gardner: but really Corby Scherb: Solidbob doesn't have anything to say to anyone. Jim Gardner: Yeah, but really Slim Pushins: Mm-hmm. Jim Gardner: it kinda worked out 'cause Justin and I were kinda on our own. and you know, just us and our dads and and working on the cars, there's a lot going on. And it helped me not kind of walk around and pace and and ask for too many opinions. and we just kinda r kept it real simple and you know, we were thrashing the whole time and I know the whole time my mom's wondering when are people gonna come get walking tacos and you know, because she had She was expecting everybody there, you know. And so Stasas came by and and and mom accosted them and and jammed walking tacos down their throats. So glad you enjoyed it, Patrick. Yeah, Slim Pushins: Corby got a walking taco. Corby Scherb: For sure. Jim Gardner: Corby got one later. I left because I I rode with Justin back to Fort Worth. and my parents took my trailer home. So I did not see I did not hang around for you guys too much. But Slim Pushins: I doubt that, Wes. Jim Gardner: so yeah, that's that's Slim Pushins: I know Kins. I should have been there. I missed Rider's win. I I had Jim Gardner: That was Slim Pushins: I had something come up at the last minute. I was I was already in the mindset that I was about to head out of the house and head up to Corby's to pick Corby up. And something came up so it was last Jim Gardner: Yeah. Slim Pushins: minute. Jim Gardner: Yeah. But yeah, so about the only downside from Ardmore, we'll let Corby's ice dump. Slim Pushins: Super Trucker said he didn't get he didn't get invited. Jim Gardner: Well, he was down there celebrating the win. Corby Scherb: Big dog in it. Jim Gardner: yeah, I Slim Pushins: Yeah. Jim Gardner: was Slim Pushins: Cash and checks and stuff. Jim Gardner: Yeah, right. so but kind of the only weird thing about Ardmore and I had to text Wes Cranville about it, was the final results or Kerbo, you said somebody message you about this, right? Slim Pushins: Landon Thompson messaged me. I don't I mean I love the fact that, you know, he reaches out to me thinking that I've got some pool or know that some know s people that have some pool, but I damn sure don't. but it did bring to light the difference in the live timing versus the my race pass results. A a a big Jim Gardner: Yeah and Slim Pushins: difference for a lot of people. Jim Gardner: well only a big difference for Lance Christie and everybody else kind of falls in line, I think, right? Slim Pushins: Chance where Jim Gardner: Yeah. Yeah. 'Cause the Slim Pushins: did Chance Cody's in eighth? And I don't even see him in the top twelve in one am I missing his name? Chance Jim Gardner: wow. Slim Pushins: Cody. Yeah, Caden Cole Jim Gardner: Yeah. Slim Pushins: was two spots. Chet Carney was two spots. I don't know. I I don't know enough about how Matt Race Pass works. Corby Scherb: Yeah, I I Jim Gardner: Something Corby Scherb: w well yeah, th Jim Gardner: happened but Corby Scherb: they they had problems with the timing loop all night from what I understand and th there's some people who care about national points and some people who don't. I I'm sure there's a lot of people there that that don't, but Jim Gardner: I'm it didn't matter whether I got paid for thirteenth, fourteenth, fifteenth, or nineteenth. I didn't care. I just signed my name and took my pity money and left. So Slim Pushins: I sent a screenshot to Rutherford and Rutherford said I got paid for the place that I finished. I don't care what my race pass says. Jim Gardner: Yeah, fair enough. Corby Scherb: it's just it's it's points in my opinion. we we've done that you've y'all've done that with a couple of drivers with our team and it matters to some people. Some people it doesn't matter, Jim Gardner: Yeah, I d I I don't think twenty five bucks for a position either way really Corby Scherb: For sure. Jim Gardner: it really matters. It was just kinda weird. but yeah, it affected the power rankings. 'cause I calculated off the final results because I don't have the kind of time that people think I do to go analyze every lap and pass. But So anyway, I'll adjust them back. I don't know what I'm gonna do. We might just leave it, but I can Corby Scherb: Did it help or hurt? Jim Gardner: I can adjust them back. What? for me? Corby Scherb: The eight eight R. Did it help or hurt? Jim Gardner: It probably didn't matter because he was number one in both. So Corby Scherb: Okay. Jim Gardner: anyway. yeah, we can we'll talk more about power rankings later, I'm sure. you know, we're gonna have a couple down weeks. You know, there's no racing this week. I I guess people are running Lawton. But we're gonna have some weeks without racing that I will just bust open the sheets and let you guys bust my chops over power rankings analytics. I'm Slim Pushins: That's a touchy subject right now. Jim Gardner: I am here for all the smoke. if you have your questions and think that I haven't thought of the contingencies you think I haven't thought of. So that's for damn certain, Landon. anyway, but Yeah. So that was a little weird on the on how it was scored and and stuff like that, but Slim Pushins: LT's LT's girlfriend's not gonna stick around for a guy that doesn't finish in the top five of the power rankings. It means a lot. Jim Gardner: That's all he's worried about. Yeah. So anyway, that was just a little caveat from from Ardmore that the the results were all kind of wacky for everybody except me, 'cause I just I was thankful my stuff wasn't tore up. So anyway, anybody got Corby Scherb: I think I don't know, Jim. I I don't know. I talked to you Sunday. I I think you would have felt a little bit better about yourself if you was upside down in that moment rather than just doing that. But today you're Jim Gardner: I I just it was Corby Scherb: happy that you didn't tear anything up. Jim Gardner: Yeah. I I was it was embarrassing it was embarrassing to make a a a mistake, a drive like calculation issue, you know, having a no plan. I remember getting a back search going, crap, shall I go higher or low? And Corby Scherb: I was yelling at you on the back road away, chop him off, chop him off. Jim Gardner: Go low. Yeah. Everybody was. And then I was just like, let's go back up to the top where there's no more grip. and then it just got worse and worse. And I I'm like I said, I was embarrassed about that, and then I was embarrassed about spinning out and I was embarrassed just how I handled myself trying to get back on the racetrack and and running the last couple of laps and anyway, just gotta learn how to lose I guess, and try to get back in that position again. But That was Ardmore. I love Ardmore. I wish they had more races. It's pretty close to home for me. Track's awesome. Like you get to stretch your legs a little bit, take a bunch of different lines. You can be creative. It's real driver's track. It gets real slick. Sometimes it's, you know, go pound the top. I love it. Slim Pushins: Jordan Roop wants to he wants to play by play on the heat race. Corby Scherb: We can talk we're gonna talk we're gonna talk about starts. Jim Gardner: Yeah. well Slim Pushins: Such a troll. Corby's an asshole. Jim Gardner: So Corby Scherb: Yeah. Jim Gardner: we were in so we took two cars. Me and Bates went and raced the same night for the first time all year. And inevitably, when you take multiple cars, what happens, Corby? They all end up in the same Corby Scherb: We're all of the same heat race. Slim Pushins: Everybody's in the same heat. Jim Gardner: heat race. We'll go to races with the Sherbs with four cars, and we'd have three of them in one heat race and one in another. And so I'm lined up behind Jordan and Bates in heat four, and heat four it was slick. It was slick with a a a top. It you know, it was pretty one lane on the top, and you had to get there. And Jordan and Bates started having a a kind of a little dick measuring Slim Pushins: Ha ha ha. Jim Gardner: contest on the on the initial start and started banging wheels and hopping over each other and playing a bunch of games and then take off and they c they call it back, obviously, and thank God because Jordan got crossed up and then I checked up and the The two cars behind me blew by me. And so luckily they re-racked it. Slim Pushins: Your mother was untoo happy. Jim Gardner: Then then we they we re-racked it. And the guys on the race were like, You two get figure it out up front, or I'll find two guys that will. And I was like, Hell yeah. Get them the hell out of here. Let's go. I can me and whoever else, you know, me and and Charlie Harmon or whoever was in our heat, we can figure it out. And sure enough, we go back into turn three again and they hop each other's wheels. Corby Scherb: Yeah. Jim Gardner: Even worse. Bates has got his whole left side. Corby Scherb: Yeah. Jim Gardner: I'm looking at Bates' oil pan and I'm thinking, You dumbasses. They're taking the top three to redraw. Let's just get out of here clean and go. And and so you know, we've got it sorted out, and and Jordan kind of got in the middle in no man's land, and I rolled the bottom and was able to get by him, and and you know, Bates's car was better Yeah. Corby Scherb: Absolute Corby Sherb move right there, buddy. I mean, just to you went down there at an idol and just put it right by them. Jim Gardner: Yeah, and and so then we got out of there clean. I got back to the you know tech. I had a flat right front tire. I ran over something, you know, probably a piece of debris from those two maroons banging into each other. And so I'm at the scales. I got a flat right front, push back, and Bates comes over and he's like, What the hell was Jordan doing? I said, What the hell are you doing? Give him some space. He's like, I gave him space. I was He's He's trying not to be in the sl like give us let's get out of here clean. They're taking the top three. There's only five of us in this heat race. What are we doing? But Bates, you know, Bates has got a good race car and he knows if he gets a good launch, he's probably gone. And, you know, he's he's like me, he knows when he's got a good opportunity and wanted to make sure he took it. And so, but I guess they got it sorted out and figured out. But I went down to talk to Jordan after the race. I was like, Hey, by the way, I I went ahead and gave it to Justin for you. I know what the hell that was all about. you know, sitting there banging up cars on on on the initial start. So Slim Pushins: Well your ice machine's dropping bowling balls. Corby Scherb: Gotta keep the drinks cold, bud. Jim Gardner: Ha ha ha. Anyway, so Corby Scherb: I I I I'm usually in the workout room in there and I got a new seat for iRacing and so I don't have the desk in there. So I was gonna sit on the couch but th the table's too low, so I was like perfect I can just sit in the kitchen and now look the ice machine just went off and like everything goes back to normal. Like I mean, because there's some noise on my house, I don't have the TV on, I can't even see the TV. Yeah. Slim Pushins: The kid the kid talking smack. Jim Gardner: I th I thought we were gonna bend up four four cars in a five car heat race Corby Scherb: Yeah. Jim Gardner: before we even took the green. Boys, boys take a chill pill. Slim Pushins: I think the kid would take a lot of pride in dumping he'd take a lot of pride in dumping Corby in a in a dash. He'd tell that story to his grandkids. Corby Scherb: Man, you know what you know what, man, I remember there was one time in my life that I was I've always been super nice to Ryder on the racetrack 'cause he's always been super nice to me and like we've always given each other probably too much room in situations. And there was a night at at Abilene that he drove off the top of the racetrack and he came back down he came back on the racetrack and it was a night that what's his name? Ethan Ethan Barrow ended up winning in a coyote candle car. And the same, like I know Ryder would have done the exact same thing. I could have easily slid him going into turn one that lap and I just I I I don't have it in me to ever mess with the kid. I d I don't know. He he might take me out. He might do it just to prove a point now. Jim Gardner: Nobody's running each other over just to prove a point. Slim Pushins: To assert his dominance. Corby Scherb: For sure, 'cause he's the the kid of Roger Laplante. Slim Pushins: Announce his presence with authority. Corby Scherb: He probably would. He probably would take me out. But yeah, hardware was good, Slim Pushins: man Jim Gardner: anyway, I had a hell of a Corby Scherb: it was fun. Slim Pushins: it sounds so quiet in my ears now that that Ice machine's full. Corby Scherb: Chad Wilson does it again. He gets some redemption there at RPM and he did it did it pretty dominantly. So good for him. Cheers to Chad. He's he's like Slim Pushins: I haven't watched a replay. Corby Scherb: he's like fifty three years old or something like that and still out here winning races. Jim Gardner: Onk. Corby Scherb: Old Uncle Chad there. Jim Gardner: Got it done. And that was the only picture I could find. I was hoping to find a picture of Corey and Brant and Dana and the whole crew, but that was the only picture I could find. Slim Pushins: He sent Corby and I a picture. Jim Gardner: Good win for Slim Pushins: So I don't know if anybody knows this, but Wilson's got a tr a tradition. Cor Wilson's Jim Gardner: Why don't we forward it along? Golly. Corby Scherb: No, can't do that. Slim Pushins: got a tradition of w going straight to the power wash on the way home from every track. And he sent Corby and I a picture of his breather that had kind of jiggled loose. Corby Scherb: Stack his stack. Slim Pushins: We're gonna call it a breather. Corby Scherb: It's the breathers on top. You put stacks down. Slim Pushins: The whole thing is a breather. One of his stats had split up. Corby Scherb: I I agree with Ryder here. I think I think Jim Gardner: No it's not. Corby Scherb: we were in it was if Jim Gardner: Fault Corby Scherb: it wasn't the Z, it was definitely the X feature. And yeah, we had a battle royal and he knocked me out. He kept moving. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Next week we're gonna do a full sprint car glossary game show for curbo. Ask a Slim Pushins: No, that's coming in the off season. Jim Gardner: ask him what what parts these are called. I yeah like when Kerbo. It's so Corby Scherb: Who me or Kerbo? Jim Gardner: a couple weeks ago couple weeks ago Ricketts spun out at at Kennedale and we were talking about it. I forget w why we it come up or we're we were talking about whatever and Ricketts commented on the on the live podcast, you know, stepped on my tally whacker. And my wife, who I love dearly, is not from this world. She didn't know what a sprint car was three and a half years ago. She knew that NASCAR existed and that people sometimes drive around circles, but did had no idea that they were like other people, right? And so she is kind of going through and she goes, What part of the car is a tally whacker? Corby Scherb: Mm-hmm. Jim Gardner: And I was like Yeah, I Corby Scherb: Yeah, you all want to. Jim Gardner: was like, it's down there by the Johnson rod. And she goes, What what Corby Scherb: Yeah. Jim Gardner: part? And then she realized I was messing with her and you know and then took exception to it. And anyway, so we definitely need to have a Yeah, I mean she's picked Slim Pushins: That led to some possible off season off season ideas. Jim Gardner: up on some terms, you know, like she knows what stagger is or or that stagger is a thing. I don't know if she could tell you what it is, but You know, that was funny. So when when I finally calmed down on Saturday, you know, she she had text me c watching from my mom's Facebook Live and I was like, stepped on my tally whacker and that was kind of the the thing that got me going. So anyway, a little aside there on sprint car terminology. Corby Scherb: Dylan's saying it man, I I don't know. I don't know the full Jim Gardner: Where Corby Scherb: dialogue of his of his in injury, yeah, man. I th I Dylan Dylan Jim Gardner: I saw Corby Scherb: got Dylan got hurt, man. He he Slim Pushins: He he dislocated his knee. Corby Scherb: yeah, loading up the car, man, and it happened and from from my understanding I don't I don't know, but apparently they were trying to they were in the process of loading it up and I think the car ran him over while him and his dad were trying to push it in the trailer, so Man, that's it's terrible and we forget how easy it is or like we talk about open wheel racing all the time, but like people forget we don't have starters and stuff and we st usually gotta hand push in there. And it is, it's super scary to like lean in and steer the wheel and man, I hate that for you, Dylan. dude I got I got a lot of Jim Gardner: Yeah. Corby Scherb: practice with the knees. let me know if you need any help with anything. Jim's done it a couple of times too. Slim Pushins: Corby Corby can give you a lot of advice. Jim Gardner: I'm two for two. Corby Scherb: Yeah, I got I got a double double knee surgery, so man, we're praying for you and hope everything comes out okay. w we'll blame your dad for this anyways. He's gonna be mad at Slim Pushins: Yeah. Corby Scherb: us. I I'm sure we did something wrong no matter what. So we'll blame Kevin. Jim Gardner: Yeah, well I was I Slim Pushins: We'll get the we'll get the two the Wednesday morning text from Kevin setting us setting us straight on some things. Corby Scherb: yeah. yeah. Jim Gardner: I was well I was I was watching the replay of RPM again on Kerbo's account and noticed Slim Pushins: Awesome. Jim Gardner: that that Dylan wasn't there and he wasn't in the results when I did the power rankings and I was kind of curious about it. You know, I mean maybe he got fired from his own car, it or or whatever. So I hate that it's actually an injury. hope you're hope you're gonna get better there, Dylan. Corby destroyed his knee tightening a center lug on a midget. excuse excuse me. We were shaking down the midgets for Chili Corby Scherb: No, I was loosening it. I was loosening it. Remember cause the the caliper was hanging off. Yeah. Loosening it. Jim Gardner: Bowl at Kennedale and it Corby was is gonna change stagger and then next thing I know he's laying down and out and can't move his leg and is going in for surgery in two days. And I was like, How old did you do that? Like, Slim Pushins: I think it'd be a big issue, Stasa. Jim Gardner: Follow Slim. Corby Scherb: man, I'm pretty sure that I scarred Justin Melton to this day in that moment. The Meltons were pitted right next to us and I went to break the left ear loose and it wasn't a gear. I just stepped I truly just like took a step forward and I stepped wrong and I heard the same pop that I've heard before and my knee just froze and Lucas and Logan were in the trailer and I was yelling at them to come and get me because like I was stuck. There was nothing I could do at this point. Finally they come out there and I look over and like Justin Melton's just staring at me. He doesn't know what the hell's happening and they took put took me up to the side of the trailer. I pulled my fire suit down and instantly it was swollen. I was like, There's no way. There's no way I just did this again. Slim Pushins: Again, key word. Corby Scherb: Again, again, I did it did it for the second time. Slim Pushins: All right, Dylan said I was sitting on the kick rail, my dad was pushing me and got my foot hung under the left rear tire, dislocated my knee and broke my femur, waiting to hear back from a specialist. Jim Gardner: God damn. Well this could all been avoided if you would just call it a Slim Pushins: Dude, that's nuts. Jim Gardner: nerf bar, first of all. Nerf bar. And Slim Pushins: I knew that was coming. Dylan te I was texting back and forth with Dylan a couple of days ago asking if he was good to go and I got the story and he called it a kick kick rail and I immediately thought about Jim. Jim Gardner: Kick rail. Corby Scherb: Yeah, man, it's just like it's like Dylan's saying right there. Slim Pushins: City w I was walking next to it. Corby Scherb: you just you just forget how easy it is to get legs trapped and then you have cabling on trailers. It's so tight to get in there anyways and not everyone can like stand behind the left rear and still reach the steering wheel. it's just yeah, man, I got Dylan I hate that for you, buddy. praying for ya. Hope it all works out and Jim Gardner: Yeah, that sucks. That sucks. Corby Scherb: Yep. Let me know if you need a good knee doctor around here. I got I got some Jim Gardner: Yeah, that Slim Pushins: Lot of Jim Gardner: sucks. Slim Pushins: I stay away from those rear wheels, man. If I go down it's it's a big deal. Jim Gardner: I tell I I've had to I've had to Corby Scherb: Then what about tyrants? As Tyrants took you down one night. Slim Pushins: Tyrant shook me down at Boyd one night. Took me down slow motion. I was Corby Scherb: He Slim Pushins: walking. Did I tell that story on the podcast? Jim Gardner: I don't think so. Corby Scherb: Heather Scherb to this day cannot tell the story without laughing. Slim Pushins: Folllows me around. Heather Scherb, if she's around, follows me around with a camera waiting for me to fall again. She said it was the funniest thing. I was walking down the ramp out of the trailer and the long end of the wheel wrench was sticking was was it was flat on the ground and it was it was pointed straight toward the ramp of the trailer and when I got to the bottom of the trailer my left foot, like the toe of my left foot went straight in to the open end and I had one chance to regain my to regain my balance. And it was like s I mean I knew I was going down and it was like slow motion. I I look I looked Corby Scherb: No, what you what'd you say? You said it in the mo I'm going down. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Slim Pushins: at I looked over at Heather and I was like, we're going down. Jim Gardner: And then she g she claims like you somehow tuck and rolled where there was no crash. It was just silent roll down the back of the aluminum trailer. There there no sound was made. Slim Pushins: Listen, at some point you have to you have to use the momentum. It's like a stand up sliding baseball. You have to use the momentum to catch your your feet again. Yeah. Jim Gardner: man. Slim Pushins: Then I fell at Wake then I fell at Waco one night too. Corby Scherb: See man and that's See man and that's why like you keep you keep saying it all, like me and Kerba we're brothers, man. We're in this together, man. Slim Pushins: We're not brothers. Corby Scherb: We're yes we are. We're fat brothers. We're in this together, buddy. Yes we are. Yes we are. Slim Pushins: We're not fat brothers, Corby. No. Fat brothers no, fat brothers don't use terminology that you use. Like I'm go like I'm going to work out and shit. Corby Scherb: Like what? Jim Gardner: And ma macros Corby Scherb: What do yo what what do fat people say? Jim Gardner: And I've had Slim Pushins: We don't talk about working out. We talk about food. Corby Scherb: Yeah. Jim Gardner: And not like macros and and needing so many grams of protein and hitting the food pyramid correctly. Anyway. Slim Pushins: Landed Land Corby Scherb: We try, man. Tuesday Tuesday nights are super tough, man. It's it's late. I'm tired Jim Gardner: Yeah. Corby Scherb: already. I gotta stand up and make dinner after this. Slim Pushins: Landon asked for the story of Mike George loading that side by side in Waco one night. Corby Scherb: I think that's a great one. That's a great one. There and then there's there's just another one that I will always talk about and and and then Slim Pushins: That's what we talk about, James. Corn dogs. Corby Scherb: we'll we'll we'll talk about something after the fact. But go ahead, tell tell that story. Slim Pushins: W the race was over and we had we were just standing around like we do telling lies and bullshit and Mike goes to load this side by side and I g mo most all of you have seen it side by side. It sits like f four or six people. So it's long. He's got this flatbed trailer's probably, I don't know, sixteen foot long. Maybe maybe twelve foot long. He goes to load this thing and he gets high centered on He he didn't go straight in, he gets high centered on the on the right side. Like smack like the right rail. And he he gets high centered on that thing and he's throwing it into reverse and throwing it into forward and it's not going anywhere. I mean the Corby Scherb: And let's be honest, 'cause is hold on, before you finish this story, like like Chad Wilson has very little patience inside of these moments, okay? Very little. And I love my Uncle Slim Pushins: Zero patience. Zero patience. Corby Scherb: Chad, I do. And I love Uncle George too, but keep going. Slim Pushins: He the the absolute chaos that ensued for the next 20 minutes. Like he's telling Mike, he's telling Mike, put it in four-wheel drive and put it in reverse. And he's like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Okay. So he Jim Gardner: Ha ha ha Slim Pushins: he hops back in this thing, climbs up in it, because now, now the center, you know, it's not like a like a foot off the ground. Now it's like two and a half feet off the ground. So he ladders himself up into this thing. Chad tells him, Put in four-wheel drive, throw it in reverse, and just gas the hell out of it. Well, he throws it in forward and just gasses the hell out of it and just jams it up more. So they finally got it all sorted out. I mean, it was chaos. Felicia, Felicia was yelling, Chad was yelling at Felicia, she was yelling at him that he didn't have any patience. I told him, I was like, listen, Jim Gardner: Hmm. Slim Pushins: if this is what Wilson Christmas is like, I'm I'm I'm headed. I'm gonna be there Christmas morning every single time. Corby Scherb: I'm showing up to Chad's house this year for Christmas and I'm gonna move every single towel, every single soap dispenser. I'm moving every same so like this the true story like Slim Pushins: He would implode. Corby Scherb: dude like Russell Shoulders is so O C D about things and like Russell is such an amazing person and I remember Brooklyn being so young and he she we would go over there and Russell had these old jukeboxes, right? Like all glass, beautiful, beautiful. And like you walk into Russell Shoulders' house and it's just it's nothing Crazy on the outside. He doesn't he's got kind of a basic standard shop where he builds these engines, but like you walk inside and it's perfect. Everything. And Brooklyn walks in there just like dragging her hands down every piece of glass that she can find, taking a chip bag, pouring it out, you know. I want to go to Chad's house and give him back the same thing, the same guy that's gonna be in the front yard cutting his grass with scissors. I just Jim Gardner: Yeah. Corby Scherb: wanna show up just to mess with Chad all day long. Slim Pushins: Yeah, that Waco was Waco was an interesting one that night. We were all laughing. Mike was mad. Jim Gardner: man. Good good people. Slim Pushins: It's it's awesome. What else we got? We got Jim Gardner: So here, let's talk about the results there. you know, Wilson gets the Slim Pushins: yeah. Jim Gardner: win after running second the last time. He he gets the win. Cody Price, eighth to second. was he hard charger? I believe so. Corby Scherb: Probably. Jim Gardner: Michael Day was fast again. I'm glad to see that their motor issues were not really motor issues, they were gauge issues. he runs third, Carson Bolden was fourth, and Tyler Harris came up from Houston to run fifth, and Jacob was sixth, so Slim Pushins: All the Harrises their dad was racing too, I think, wasn't he? Corby Scherb: Yeah, Mark. Mm-hmm. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Corby Scherb: Mm-hmm. Jim Gardner: so good show. Nathan Moore Yeah, Corby Scherb: Great people, great people from down south. Jim Gardner: Ma Nathan Moore was having another good run and then I think got turned around decently like in the mid mid pack. but yeah. Corby Scherb: You talking about the non wing guy that won his heat race? With a wing on? Yeah. Yeah. Jim Gardner: Yeah. did he? I you know what I forgot to get? Slim Pushins: Dylan said Dylan said like the ramp at Chili Bowl when I was telling the story about me falling. That ramp at Chili Bowl is that's a disaster. Yeah. Corby Scherb: It's a bit dicey. It's a bit dicey. Slim Pushins: I've about planted. Look didn't Logan fall? Didn't Corby Scherb: yeah. Slim Pushins: Logan fall up the ramp? Corby Scherb: Yeah yeah. yeah. yeah. Jim Gardner: you could follow up it. If they watered it, it's it's it's a hazard. Corby Scherb: The the ramp of the chili Slim Pushins: I think they Corby Scherb: bowl, I won't lie to anyone, is probably the scariest thing you'll ever do as a driver. I mean, you gotta be humming by the time that you're gonna make it over the top. Slim Pushins: Well try carrying two hundred extra pounds down up and down that thing. Corby Scherb: But we're brothers. We're brothers Jim Gardner: Yeah. Corby Scherb: to this, buddy. We are, Slim Pushins: Corby, stop saying that. Corby Scherb: man. Slim Pushins: Until until you snap a lawn chair, you're not allowed to say that. Jim Gardner: Is us Corby Scherb: It's getting deep. Jim Gardner: God Corby Scherb: It's getting deep. Jim Gardner: Goodness gracious Corby Scherb: So are we are we good with results? 'Cause I I had I need to like out something. Jim Gardner: boy. Yeah, go for it. What do you got? Corby Scherb: Yeah. So I was a bit harsh on like Charlie Harmon and the situation that happened a couple weeks ago at Kennedale and I wanna say this openly on a public platform so that people remember this. Chad Wilson wins again. And Ryder won. there is let's let's do this politically correct because these kids are they show up In an older man's sport, when they come from karting or micros or wherever they came from, and they were winners. That's what that they were trained to do. Their parents believe in them, so they go out and they build a sprint car, and we're talking about your Carson Bolden, your Charlie Harmon, your Landa Thompson, your Ryder LePlant, your Braxton, you you're talking about all these kids, and they are held to a standard that is so hard to obtain because if they do anything wrong. ever. Automatically they're shunned. They're a no driving idiot. They don't know what they're doing. Why they ever get in a sprint car, they're not ready for it, blah blah blah. And it's hard, man, because you got people like and and I'll just go it's even some of the older school people, you got people like Chad Wilson who's still winning races. You got people like Jeb Sesams, John Ricketts, you got someone like George White who can get to a car tomorrow and go out there and win. You Slim Pushins: Marcus. Corby Scherb: Marcus Thomas Th there's so many people who have done this for so long and these kids show up and they expect to win. And it's s so tough to finally get that. I mean, look at how long it took Ryder to win. And I remember like talking to Ryder in moments and like he was bummed and frustrated. Carson Bolden the same, you know, Landon Thompson, Charlie Harmon, Braxton, it's so tough to climb into a three five when There's only sometimes Landon Thompson, like I've preached this to you, man, there's sometimes you can only go so fast in a three five. And that's what it is. And there is people who hold these kids to standards that's sometimes not obtainable. But it's the respect factor of your Kevin Rutherford, your Claude S Claude S is kid, he won a race this year. That dude can show up and win any time he wants. Your DJ and Colby are not newbies. These dudes can win in on any weekend, man. And then you have someone in and like I'm sorry, Jim, but like you got someone like Jim who shows up and was wicked fast, man. You got people like Justin Bates, Chase Brewers, I I know like I said, like your Keith Martins, your Raven Colts. Russell Schulders is a hundred and nine years old and would show up at Doubles Bowl and still be fast. It's just I I think that I I'm I Saying this to say I wasn't knocking Charlie for doing what he did to Jeb, but it's hard when you give Jeb that option and then you wanna be upset with Jeb because he took that option. So that that's it. That's all I was gonna say. I just wanna like preach back to the kids because I'm a huge supporter of all the kids that show up and race. I think everyone Slim Pushins: I love it. Corby Scherb: at the racetrack I think everyone at the racetrack knows that I I am that That guy, that driver that's always tried to communicate with them and and talk to them and talk them up. Same like Landon said that Jim's talked to him. I've talked to Landon plenty of times. I actually told Landon what you was gonna do on the first lap, Jim, standing on the top of turn one and two. You know. It didn't work. It didn't work, but yeah, Jim Gardner: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Corby Scherb: I I I wanna see the kids, you know, w we're we're old news, man. You know? I I mean who knows? Who Slim Pushins: Women Corby Scherb: knows if I ever get into a car and and I'm ever fast again? Who knows? But I I just wanted to Slim Pushins: Landon Thompson Landon Thompson is is one of those people and he and I've talked about it more than once and I and I know that y'all talked to him too. He he came out he came out when he was young and he was really fast. His car was faster than his ability in a sprint car. And he now knows i he told me, you know, the other day, he's like I I I've matured, I've got a lot of laps, and he said, you know, I know now what it is that y'all were that y'all were talking about. To slow down to Jim Gardner: Yeah, that Slim Pushins: go faster. Jim Gardner: that's all we can ask for and and and and it's just a little perspective and I think that's well said, Corby. I mean there's you know you know, I've been doing this for for twenty years and Corby Scherb: I I'm sorry if I miss you, you know, your chance Codies, your ev you there there's there's tons and tons of people out there that are young and like trying to venture into this and we forget that i Gary Owens has been racing a sprint car for a long time. Chad Chad Wilson has been racing sprint cars for a very long time. It it's very, very tough to live to their standards. Jim Gardner: I mean, we had Yeah, we had Ricketts on here. Ricketts was running Caltown when he was 18 years old. You know, it's he's on year twenty, you know, and and Corby Scherb: Yeah. Yeah. Jim Gardner: and it's it's the the learning curve is steep and and you understand that the the young guys, the rookies, the new guys are gonna make mistakes and stuff like that, as long as they don't keep making the same mistake over and over again. Corby Scherb: Right. Jim Gardner: We all understand, like we've all been there. So no, I think that's that's well said. I don't think I don't think anything last week was kinda out of bounds from from from what we said, but that's probably good to clarify. So yeah, no, I agree with you. Corby Scherb: I just wanna make sure that everyone knows I super I'm a big supporter of all the young kids that are showing up, you know. Yeah, for sure, man, and and Jim Gardner: The future of the sport, man. We need We need Corby Scherb: someone like like Ryder. Ryder's learned a lot from racing three fives around here with the older guys and the older generation to learn respect and when to do things and when not to do things. Carson Bolden has had, you know, super, you know, tough learning curve in some moments, been really fast. it's just We we need these kids to continue to show up and I I just I was saying all this to make sure that y'all know I support y'all. I I would never knock you guys and I agree that y'all are held to a standard that's that's super tough to ever meet that standard. Slim Pushins: I think it's I think it's a w a weird way of of it's like an organic way of paying your dues. And it's not that Corby Scherb: Right. Slim Pushins: anybody's being hazed, it's that the the learning curve and the knowledge is so different, you know, coming from you know, you you can be so good in carts and so good in micros. There's the learning curve is so different. You're everything is different. The the weights and the weight distribution and the w the the different aspects of the track do so much different in in within each class. And I'll go a step further. Between three five, three sixty and four ten, it's it's light years difference. I've talked to a lot of guys. I've I've had a lot of conversations Corby Scherb: Absolutely. Mm-hmm. Slim Pushins: with Ryder about being in three sixties and it's it's it's it's completely different. You drive the car different. You set the car up differently. but yeah, I mean it's it's a it's a it's a roundabout way of of paying your dues. You've you've got to learn from from I'll we'll call the old timers. Corby, you're an old timer. you you've got to learn from from those things. I told Jim, I was talking to Jim. I was texting back and forth to Jim earlier about Ardmore and I told I told him, I was like, Listen, like those things have to happen not only so that you'll appreciate the good times, but if those things don't happen, you don't know that you don't know Jim didn't know going into three and four that he was about to make the the wrong decision. But I guarantee you knowing Jimmy doesn't do it again Jim Gardner: Yeah. Yep. I don't. Corby Scherb: I did it. I I I won't lie, I I went to throw a slider on Chipper Wood on the first lap at Kennedy and I think I took out the entire Estes clan before. Just spun spun it out, just dorked it. I Jim Gardner: Yeah. Corby Scherb: agree with what Kevin LePlant says there. you gotta give the respect before you ever try to receive the respect and it's it's not an easy thing to do. Jim. Jim, we were talking good about you and you just jump on and say something like that. it's just I I I think that that that's it. That's Slim Pushins: Fifty cents apiece. Corby Scherb: that's all that I'm saying was it it's super tough to try to earn respect of some of the older guys. and all you kids that keep showing up, man, like keep doing it. I promise you, it's not just me that wants to see you guys achieve. even Uncle Chad, he does. He wants to see these kids like Kate Passing him on the last slap, like he was super bummed, but at the same time he's he's happy for it, so Jim Gardner: Yeah. Corby Scherb: so that's it. Slim Pushins: Wilson doesn't give an inch. Brewer doesn't give an inch. Jeb, Corby Scherb: no. no. Slim Pushins: Jeb, he won't talk shit. He doesn't give many inches either. He's gonna take what you give him. Corby Scherb: For sure. Jim Gardner: Yep. Yep. Jet Slim Pushins: And that's like again, that's part of the learning curve. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Jeb Jeb doesn't show up to run second. So and that's what makes it fun Corby Scherb: For sure, man. And and Jim Gardner: fun to go work on his stuff. And same with Corby and and you know, and and we've all been doing this a long time and and yeah, when when guys get in good cars and are fast, we expect them to to know everything that's going on, but you know, they're they're good everybody's gonna make mistakes and that's that's one thing. And and Having some accountability, and understanding that you're not right all the time is is a big thing. So Slim Pushins: Kevin Kevin Rutherford was an accomplished modified driver and got into sprint cars and he'll be the first to tell you, I'm humbled every single night that he goes out. You know, he Jim Gardner: yeah. Slim Pushins: he learns a lesson every time. Corby Scherb: It's tough. It there's there's plenty of nights. Ardmore was kind of a racers racetrack, that you could kind of make up your own line, but there's a lot of knights at Kennedale and RPM and we'll go we'll go down the list, you know, Grayson, Abilene that you can only go so fast. And the only way to make passes is to be semi overly aggressive and Slim Pushins: Jason Tyre's on. This is this is bad. Jason Tyres said Corby Scherb: Man, you know you know, like Jas Jason, he can he can keep on running his mouth. Man, I looked up Jim Gardner: Yeah, so Corby Scherb: to Jason so much in my racing career. he wa he was that cool older guy. It's Jason was really good. go ahead. Jim Gardner: He's still a cool order guy. Slim Pushins: Hold on, let me read what he let me read what he said. Let me read what he said. Tell your kiddos to go ask an old racer for advice now and then. It's amazing what kids will accept as a racer for advice when it's not coming from mom and dad. So many times I talk to young racers. where'd he go? Did you not point post Jim Gardner: It doesn't post the whole thing and the parents thank me because they told their kids the same thing, but since I'm it's mom or dad, they wouldn't take the advice. Which is true of a lot of things. Corby Scherb: You know Kev Slim Pushins: That's true. We've all been there. Corby Scherb: Kevin Laplante is on here right now and I will say this and this is this is one hundred percent true Rider whenever he drove the chili bowl in one of our cars, Kevin turned around to me because I was standing right there with him and he told me to lean in and tighten Ryder's lap belt because Kevin wasn't allowed to tighten tighten it anymore. And because it came from me, then it's no big deal. You Jim Gardner: Yeah. Corby Scherb: know, I I just think I I don't know if Ryder ever looked up to me, he actually looks down at me. But I I think that that is the biggest thing is just coming from someone different than a parent. The same I mean man, dude, my dad was wicked fast on a motorcycle. Wicked fast. And he could say the exact thing that I needed to hear, but if it came from Willie McCoy or Jason Tyre, I understood it. If it came from my dad, who cares? You're an idiot. You don't know what you're talking about. Jim Gardner: Yeah, there there's a little bit of separation sometimes. I think that's true in a lot of different different things. I've been really lucky. I've got a great dad who's incredibly supportive of me, doesn't know diddly squat about racing, and that's fine. he's the first per he texts me every morning asking what he can do to help me with the race car or or around the house or whatever. And I'm very appreciative. But I also have been very lucky to have people who aren't my dad be big influences in my life. Slim Pushins: You're welcome. Jim Gardner: That could be I'm thinking you know, guys who were bosses, guys who are mentors. You know, I I had Slim Pushins: I was sorry, I should I thought you were talking about me. Jim Gardner: I had, you know, a couple of mechanics who took me under their wing when I was running sprint cars in in Indiana. and you know, I I've been very lucky to have those types of people. Corby, your dad was a big influence for me for for a long time down here. And sometimes you just need to have kind of a mentor figure. tell you what you need to know and and and not always be your parents because your parents, you know, you know, they they they can just be dad, you know, especially in different scenarios like racing. So, you know, take take the advice that comes your way. Corby Scherb: Yeah. Yeah, Jason Tyre was just a guy who jumped in the pro ranks before us and I I was able to talk to him a lot about every everything that I needed to expect whenever I stepped up to the pro stuff and and I wanted to always try to give back to the kids what I always receive from people like Jason Tyre and Mike Hell and Willie McCoy and no one on this podcast has any idea other than Jason Tyre who I'm talking about or Chris Carr or Kenny Tolbert. Jim Gardner: We're checked we're checked out. Slim Pushins: None. Corby Scherb: But I I just want these kids to know to I just want Jim Gardner: No I don't think any of those guys are yeah, go ahead, I'm sorry. I was gonna joke. Corby Scherb: I want these kids to be able to I mean I'm old and washed up, I probably was more of a never was to be able to talk to people like us and and I know like I say I I talk crap about Uncle Chad because he's like an uncle to me and walk up to Chad and ask him what he's doing to his race car. He's not gonna lie to you, I promise you. No. Walk Slim Pushins: He's the chat won't bullshit, it'll tell you exactly what he's doing. Corby Scherb: up to Kevin Raimi and ask him and Kevin Raimi will give you a tape measure. That's that's the same like the these guys, Kevin and Chad and Jeb and John and Russell's shoulders was such a big impact on us, and it was Jimmy Gardner calling his cousin back home in Indiana and then we would run it by Russell to see if this was the right move to try to make. Th there's so much knowledge that you can gain like sit down and talk with Kevin or Chad. Sit down and talk with those guys. And just understand where they come from. They've they've they've done it the hard way. They've had the same bumps and bruises, the same as Marcus, Chad, John, all these guys, but all the Estes. Claude, sit down and talk with Claude. Like I said, I I think I got a little crap saying like saying like Claude Claude Slim Pushins: He won't finish he won't finish one story. Corby Scherb: got upset that I was saying he's a bit old school and like that's the thing, like Claude can show up and win with the most base setup that he's ran for thirty years because that's what Claude likes. You know? Jim Gardner: What happened to him Saturday? He I thought he did he break in hot laps? He was Corby Scherb: He just man, he just l I don't know. I don't know what happened. I don't wanna I I something was up with the car. Jim Gardner: Yeah. I didn't get down there to talk to him after 'cause I had my I had fifty one problems down in my pit, so but yeah. Corby Scherb: Yeah, it's just like Kevin LePlant just said right there, you know, it's man, it's you gotta you gotta give the respect before you're gonna ever receive the respect, and the easiest way to do that is just talk to I like I said, I promise you, these guys will talk to you, just go interact with them. You know, I remember the first time that I talked to Carson Bolden standing in turn three, he was standing right next to Ben's and I was messing with Ben's about setup that night at Ardmar. It was actually the night that I got ballparked, but It it's just there's there's nothing different about any racer that shows up. We expect these kids to show up and race us with the same respect that we race them with. It's just it's okay, man. Like we're all gonna make mistakes. I make mistakes. Jimmy Jimmy, did you make a mistake this weekend? Jim Gardner: Little itty bitty one. Corby Scherb: You know, and it it's okay. It's gonna happen. Slim Pushins: Couple. Corby Scherb: It's gonna happen. You know, Joe Woods Junior made probably I don't know if he thinks so a little bit of a a mental mistake whenever he spun out Gary. I've I've watched Gary Owens, I got respect for Gary Owens, he'll pick it fast. I've seen him make mistakes, it it's going to happen. Own up to them. Slim Pushins: Hey, anybody young walk young walk up to me, I'll give you all the set of advice that y'all Jim Gardner: Yeah. Slim Pushins: want. Corby Scherb: On pushing? Jim Gardner: Yeah. Slim Pushins: Why y'all laughing? Jim Gardner: Ain't that the truth? Loose lips sh sink ships, Kerbo. Don't be telling away our secrets. Slim Pushins: I'll tell you all my setup secrets. I don't I'll t I pr I want to see you sick I wanna see you succeed and I'll I'll set I'll give you all the setup advice. Whatever you want. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Slim Pushins: Let's talk about Knoxville. The little race up there in the Midwest nobody's ever heard of. Jim Gardner: Yeah. How how about that Kyle Larson guy? I think he's gonna Corby Scherb: There you Brady. Motor Slim Pushins: Brady said Corby Scherb: i motor is used for Claude. Slim Pushins: motor issues for the Claude Father. Jim Gardner: copy. Hopefully they get that sorted out. got nationals in three weeks, but yeah, Knoxville, Corby Scherb: I saw DJ sitting out this weekend, cheers to you, DJ, you know, doing all doing all that buddy. Slim Pushins: Happy birthday, DJ. Corby Scherb: Yeah, happy birthday, buddy. Jim Gardner: Yeah. yeah, I think that Kyle Larson guy is gonna make it in this racing thing. he's Slim Pushins: He's got a real future. Jim Gardner: he's pretty good. I think we're all pretty lucky to to get to be in this sport while he's while he's dominating this sport. I know a lot of people are getting to be like seeing him. Slim Pushins: Jim won't let me load the four wheeler in back of the truck anymore. Jim Gardner: Nope. I will just take over that. so Larson, you know, luckily Luckily for him, Friday and Saturday in Knoxville was a disaster with the rain and he was able to get there and kick their asses. And Slim Pushins: Hey, can I just say this real quick? And this isn't gonna mean anything to not one person but Jim, but I'm gonna say it anyway. My horse, Jim and I are in a fantasy NASCAR league that he ropes me into every year. And he sent me the text, hey, who do you want this weekend? And the way this works is once somebody that picks before you chooses, that driver's off the table. So it come down comes down to me. I'm like the ninth or tenth pick. Naturally. Kyle Larson's available. I take Larson and he's like, what a jackass. Like he's gonna he's gonna leave and he's going to Knox. He's going to Knoxville. And I was like, you know what? I don't give a shit. I'm still gonna take him. Jim Gardner: He doesn't even want to be there. I just I lied to him. Slim Pushins: I'm still taking him. And my horse came in sixth, Jim Gardner: Yeah. I had to pick I had to pick Austin. Slim Pushins: thank you very much. Jim Gardner: Yeah, I had to pick Austin Cindrick because I'm second in point, so I get to pick twenty fifth every week. And my guy ran my guy ran third. Yeah. So Slim Pushins: Well didn't he didn't he finish like fifth? Jim Gardner: anyway, but Larson comes back and and dominates Knoxville. the big Slim Pushins: What an incredible race, man. Corby Scherb: Be before we get into that, let let's just like touch base on like sponsors, man, and and takes people like the Hendricks group that he's driving for to have things in place. You know, like I I still have sponsors to this day that I am so grateful for, people like Casey Burton and Russell Shoulders. Th these people have stood behind me when they knew that Kyle didn't want to be there, he wanted to fly back to Knoxville, so they made arrangements to make sure that he gave his best effort inside of that moment. You know, it it takes people like that to stand behind you, your Jim Gardner's, Jim Gardner: Text people give Corby Scherb: Wesley McNortons, your Chad Jenkins Kerbo. It it takes people Slim Pushins: It's not Jenkins. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Corby Scherb: like that to stand behind you to believe in yourself too. Jim Gardner: Yeah. So I you know, I I I Slim Pushins: His his flight from his flight from Richmond was the most tracked flight in all of Corby Scherb: I bet. Slim Pushins: the United St and I'll be I'm I'll be honest, I was one of the I was one of the ones tracking him inbound. I'm kind of Jim Gardner: Sounds about right. Slim Pushins: a I'm kind of an a an airplane nerd like that. I've Jim Gardner: Yeah. Slim Pushins: got that app. I followed him all the way into what is it? Pell Pelli, Perry, Pella? Pela. Jim Gardner: Pela. Pelo. Yeah. But yeah, the the crew guys and all the support system to to let the stars shine often go unnoticed. But luckily we had some some crew drama at Knoxville. This w this was Slim Pushins: Check this out. Corby Scherb: Man, I hate this for this guy, but what a champ. What an absolute champ. Jim Gardner: Bro like Corby Scherb: Just taking Slim Pushins: Hmm. Corby Scherb: it and then this dude just writing on there just just not he didn't even look twice. And then actually I don't know if you Jim Gardner: I mean Corby Scherb: have the the the vocals right there, but he was telling Ryan that he was so sorry and he messed up and that's what it takes man. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Corby Scherb: It it takes heart like that. Slim Pushins: Dude, look at hold on. Look at this. I'm gonna replay it one more time. Watch this dude's watch this dude's left foot. He almost he almost Dylan Raimi's this thing under yes. Corby Scherb: Ended up like Dylan Raimi? Yeah. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Slim Pushins: Under the four wheeler. Dude, that's dedication right there. Corby, you're not Jim Gardner: God and then Corby Scherb: For sure. Slim Pushins: you're not getting that from me. Jim Gardner: They they posted this. This is an in car they had. Slim Pushins: That's the one if you if you have the audio of that that's i th that dude's apologizing profusely, Jim Gardner: Yeah. Corby Scherb: Yeah. Slim Pushins: man. I'm sorry, we screwed up. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Corby Scherb: And it's just like what Jim Gardner: They Corby Scherb: DJ's saying, like he was there to help his his brother and make sure that his car was ripping and man it takes it takes brotherly love, it takes people that aren't your natural brothers, even if me and brother are fat brothers together. You know, I look at Slim Pushins: Quit Corby Scherb: Jimmy as a brother, Wesley McNorton, me and that dude have been through the absolute trenches together. it takes people like that to make sure that you're gonna accomplish your goals. Just like this dude just absolutely taking a facer. Slim Pushins: Dude, what a listen. Corby Scherb: With a bottle full of methanol. Slim Pushins: Listen, like I I know we're kinda laughing about it, but what an incredibly coordinated effort. Like this dude's riding Corby Scherb: For sure. Slim Pushins: on the back bumper. You got another dude riding on Jimmy's kick rail. Corby Scherb: I can send a picture right now of Wesley McNorton and his brother Randy and Matthew Yates absolutely slating on my car and what's Kerbo doing? Jim Gardner: Holding the bolts. Slim Pushins: Why I why do Corby Scherb: Go! Slim Pushins: I get drugged into everything? Corby Scherb: But I it's just, you know, it takes people Slim Pushins: There's a reason, Corby, there's a reason that I'm the director of artificial lighting, okay? I did my job well. Jim Gardner: Man. Corby Scherb: Yeah man. I've watched Wesley almost pass out a hundred times at the racetrack for me. I've watched Jimmy throw up on my front bumper before races. Jim Gardner: Ha ha Corby Scherb: it's not just the sponsors like your Casey Burton's and your Russell Shoulders and your Rick Garrett's and your Carl Clements. It takes people that will truly just give you Jim Gardner: I give a shit. Corby Scherb: the best and and and it's sometimes Slim Pushins: I fell on my face for you. Corby Scherb: And hold on, I'm gonna get to you. And it's sometimes it's just the words that you need to hear, like Kerbo was really good at telling me, like, let the race come to you. Sometimes you just need that focus, you know. When Kyle Larson pulls into Knoxville and he sees everyone waiting for him, the amount of reassurance that he feels, you know, Slim Pushins: Pressure. Corby Scherb: whenever I pull up to the trailer and Wesley and Jimmy are standing there. the amount that I know there nothing can go wrong with the car, it's up to me at that point, is such a relieving feeling. And Jim Gardner: Yeah. Corby Scherb: I know Kerbo's probably gonna leave me in a chute, so I'll probably have to call one of the Esseces to come and score me back onto the heat race. But it Jim Gardner: Yeah. Well that Slim Pushins: Hey, for the record, we wanna race as me f as me crew chief and I'm I'm just gonna drop the Jim Gardner: that Slim Pushins: mic there. Jim Gardner: that I think that is what I was most disappointed with myself in on Saturday was the feeling of letdown of all the people who are behind the scenes for me too. Corby Scherb: Man, I was trying to figure out who was gonna get Braxton and I was gonna I was gonna show up on the front straightaway, man. I I I wanted that hug so bad. Jim Gardner: Yeah, like it was yeah, like it's just the feeling because there's so much that effort that goes into it and there's so much give Corby Scherb: yeah. Jim Gardner: it give a shit factor by the crew guys. that that's I think what really hit me in the moment was I I messed this up for a lot of people, you know. J Justin Tom. Yeah, I know, thank you. Corby Scherb: I mean I even blocked your car for you, buddy. I blocked your car that night. Jim Gardner: Yep. So I have one more video from Knoxville just about crew. This is the Tarleton crew from the prelim Thursday. When Corby Scherb: yeah. Jim Gardner: when Sheldon passes them at the line and they lose by I think it was point zero zero zero six or something ridiculous. And and the world of outlaws posted this because they thought that was going to be the winning crew, and they get knocked out of the line. You just kind of see the the air defeat out of them. And and I'm telling you what, man, the crew gave it's it takes us it you might as well be strapped to the tail tank. Corby Scherb: you're riding in the car with them, you know. Slim Pushins: Every lap Corby Scherb: Yeah. Slim Pushins: every Jim Gardner: and Slim Pushins: every infield tractor tire that Corby hit, I hit with him. Jim Gardner: Why's my left arm hurt? Because it was pinned in. Yeah. Corby Scherb: No. Slim Pushins: Tru trust me. That night that he flipped at Boyd, I guarantee you I was on the track before all cars were stopped. And it was a Jim Gardner: Yeah. Slim Pushins: it wasn't a decision that I made. It was very instinctive. Jim Gardner: Yeah. So Corby Scherb: Man, it just it it takes it takes people like that in the and the Larson stuff is you know, I I am happy I I've seen some great motorcycle racers, as kids growing up and it it's cool to live in the same era as Ky Larson because I don't know if anyone will ever touch the records that that guy's gonna, you put up. He he's j he's an absolute freak. I don't even know if he's truly human at this point. he just climbs in a car and Slim Pushins: Corby would send in text messages to every every group text that I'm in with Corby. I got the same message. This dude's not even human. Corby Scherb: He's a freak, man. He's a freak. He he does things. You know, he has I I know Jimmy Gardner was was great at saying this. You took a fifth place car and make it made it a winning car. And Kyle Larson just has that ability. He he really is good at changing who he is that night as a racer to be so much better. It's cool to watch, man. It it's really cool Jim Gardner: Yep. It Corby Scherb: to be a part of that era. Jim Gardner: you don't have to like but you gotta accept greatness. Yeah. Slim Pushins: It's like watching the Yankees. Like there's you gotta have some respect there. Corby Scherb: You know, it's it's the Donnie Shots, it's the Kyle it's the Sammy Swindells, it's the Steve Kenzers, you know, don't take Jim Gardner: Yeah. Corby Scherb: anything away from Mark Kinser, you it's those guys that the Danny Lasowski's the the Jack Hart and Shields, those guys just have something inside of that era that no one can touch and this dude can run a NASCAR Jim Gardner: W Wolf Gang. Corby Scherb: race, just absolutely dehydrate himself, Jim Gardner: Yeah. Corby Scherb: climb in a plane, probably took, you know, a quick nap, wakes up and then shows up and wins Knoxville. Jim Gardner: Had had some honey packs. Corby Scherb: for sure honey packs. Braxton believes in now. man, Jim Gardner: Yeah. Yeah. So Slim Pushins: The Corby the Corby honey packs. Corby Scherb: I got Ryder, Carson, I got all these guys on I guess I I need to work on Harmon and and Thompson to make sure they're staying hydrated enough. Jim Gardner: Hmm. Slim Pushins: I mean if Harmon's gonna be bolted across infields, he d he he needs honey back. Corby Scherb: No, y he needs a couple of honey packs. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Yeah. Corby Scherb: I'll score him one. Harmon, I got you the next race. Jim Gardner: All right. Slim Pushins: There we go. Jim Gardner: the infamous power rankings update. if you want true comedy, probably just observe the the Monday morning group text between the three of us when Kerbo's just Corby Scherb: Yeah! Jim Gardner: poking the bear all during my morning commute with questions about the algorithm that he thinks that I haven't thought of. a little change up Slim Pushins: Give him Jim Gardner: front. Like a s Lance Christie, I gave him credit for a fourth. It looks like he probably ran ninth, so that might change. I'll just update it next week. next week. he's up there. Cody Price is in there after his big run. Chad moved up a couple spots. you know, the top five are pretty well isolated, but that's the latest in power rankings. Corby Scherb: Same is is Kobe Stubberfield is is Kobe Stubbbafield an old veteran right now, or is he like like a sophomore? Jim Gardner: He Slim Pushins: No, I think he's a veteran. Jim Gardner: Yeah, he's twenty I Corby Scherb: Dude's been around forever. Jim Gardner: I looked him up. He's like twenty-three years old. He's been beating us our ass for eight years. Corby Scherb: I know, I know, I know, I know. Slim Pushins: Hey, do we need to do we need to make an executive decision on the power rankings to put an asterisk next to Dylan Raimi's name? Jim Gardner: No, he's just gonna not run races and yeah, Slim Pushins: Just fade away into obscurity. Jim Gardner: and his participation metric will f I can't Corby Scherb: End up like me. Slim Pushins: Well. Jim Gardner: I I can I can if you're in the race, I get your starting position and your finishing position and who you raced against. That's the only data I get. And so I'm bummed Dylan can't race or you know for why he can't race, but so so be it. Try again next year. to Yeah, yeah. Corby Scherb: I guess I guess we're gonna have to Kevin in the seat more. I know you're listening, Kevin. I know I know you're just sitting over there being quiet and you're gonna run your Jim Gardner: Maybe Dylan got Corby Scherb: mouth. Slim Pushins: in the in the background. I'm telling you, we're gonna Jim Gardner: Maybe Slim Pushins: get a Wednesday morning text. Corby Scherb: I know. Jim Gardner: Maybe maybe next Saturday, Slim Pushins: Let me tell you boys something. Jim Gardner: maybe next Saturday if I go run RPM I can hear Dylan in my ear and Kevin's out there on the racetrack. Slim Pushins: Ooh, maybe I can make that. Maybe he'll let me Corby Scherb: Dyl Dylan might not Slim Pushins: Maybe he'll let me on the raceiver. Jim Gardner: Yeah, there Corby Scherb: Yeah. Jim Gardner: you go. Slim Pushins: He won't let me in heavy equipment. Jim Gardner: speaking of next week, so Kennedale canceled this weekend, but they added purse money to their final show. It's fifteen hundred to win now. but nineteenth. Slim Pushins: September n what is that? Yeah, up there? Nine nineteen, there it is. Jim Gardner: Yep. So there is a race in Lawton this weekend. I've started adding Lawton just 'cause it's getting kind of thin. and then those are pretty much all the races left in August and in all of September. We got a couple of one off shows later in the year. But that's about all we got. So everybody keep getting out to the racetrack and and getting getting your runs in. Slim Pushins: Are we Chim, are we gonna talk about new swag? Did you wanna talk about some swag? Jim Gardner: we can I don't have any images. I'm starting to put I forgot. Slim Pushins: You told me you were bringing images. It's the only reason I brought it up. Jim Gardner: Yeah, I I don't have I've started put some stuff up, the Boldens have put up. Yep. The Boldens have put up Slim Pushins: So go to stomp and steer dot com. we've we've added some swag. Jim Gardner: Yeah, the Boldens have posted, you know, we got kind of their hats and we just got some dumb slogans and numbers that graphics that I've kept up with. Let's try to make it livelier and more interesting. I'd much rather wear a Uncle Chad Wilson shirt than a regular Haynes White T. So I like supporting my buddies. And so if you want to go out and buy buy a hat or a shirt, supports the pod, supports those guys. Go do it. Slim Pushins: Speaking of speaking of supporting the pod, I know we we capture I don't know if it's a limited amount of people on Facebook, but I was told I was advised earlier we're eleven subscribers shy on the YouTube channel from being able to also go live at the same time on YouTube. Jim Gardner: Yep. So Slim Pushins: so if if you if you think about it, we are not those click and subscribe, please. Corby Scherb: You mean to call some some motorcycle guys to maybe get them? No? Okay. Okay. Jim Gardner: Per please do. Yeah. Slim Pushins: yeah, we're not we're not click and subscribe type of people, but Corby Scherb: Randy King's a huge supporter of it. I raced I raced with Hutter King. He he texted me he told me to smile this Slim Pushins: Well shoot him a message. Tell tell to subscribe on YouTube. Jim Gardner: There's two Corby Scherb: he told me to smile tonight. Randy did. Jim Gardner: Yeah. All right. Slim Pushins: Yeah. So yeah, we Jim Gardner: but yeah. Slim Pushins: b that that'd be cool to be able to to to broadcast live on Facebook and YouTube 'cause for whatever reason some people aren't on Jim Gardner: I get that out more. Yeah. Slim Pushins: Facebook. We also have the TikTok page that Jim hates that he's never seen that exactly. Jim Gardner: I for I forget it ex it exists. So you know it is what it is. But yeah, Corby Scherb: Thanks, Kans. Jim Gardner: yeah, we're not Slim Pushins: Yeah, Kin's Jim Gardner: we're not smash that like button, people. we're just kinda doing this for for for to talk about our sport, but Corby Scherb: You will make Kerbo's life so much better if we got to show up on YouTube. Jim Gardner: Hammer that like button. Yeah. so yeah. But keep telling your friends about it. it's it's been cool. Slim Pushins: We just do the podcast but to hear Corby complain about doing the podcast. It's kind of a pastime of ours. Corby Scherb: I can't wait for the winter when we get to take some s like weeks off. Can't wait. Slim Pushins: I do think I I think we've talked about I think we've kinda narrowed it down to Yeah. I think we've narrowed down the during the off season we're gonna try to do a podcast every other week. just because we hardly have anything to talk about now, so Corby Scherb: The Jimmy's got a lot to talk about when it comes to setup. I know Wesley would probably chime in to yeah, yeah. I got hammer toes, so feet pictures isn't an option. Slim Pushins: That's what we're gonna do, pushing the cushion only fans during the off season. Jib's got a Jib's got a set of toes on him. Jim Gardner: Yeah. James Corby Scherb: yeah he does. Jim Gardner: James has some pushing the cushion swag. we appreciate that, Corby Scherb: Mm-hmm. Slim Pushins: Yeah, he does. Jim Gardner: James. Thank you. yeah, when nationals coming up and the pros. Yeah. Slim Pushins: All right. The Bardville the V Bardville Bomber just subscribed on on YouTube. So now we only need ten more. We appreciate it, Bomber. Corby Scherb: Okay. Jim Gardner: Perf perfect. yeah. Slim Pushins: I called him earlier this this morning, he didn't answer. So I'm expecting to call back probably I don't know, three or four days. I don't even know what Corby Scherb: it minimum. About like trying to get a hold of Jib. Just just be patient. Jim Gardner: Ha ha ha. Yeah. Slim Pushins: I don't even know why I called you, Bates, so if you call me back Corby Scherb: You know, Jeb, Jeb, now that we're on the subject right now and I'm gonna I'm gonna piss Jimmy off, but like, has anyone ever drove from like central Texas to to Lubbock? And it really makes you question the whole flatter thing. I don't think they Slim Pushins: Corby's Corby Scherb: can get any flatter Slim Pushins: Corby's texting me all day to go there's no way the earth is round. Jim, have you ever made that track you're ever been out to Lubin? Jim Gardner: I have. I have. I've driven all the way to Clovis. Corby Scherb: Have you ever just like looked around and and and wondered what's happening? Jim Gardner: Wh w is this what my pathetic life has come to? Yes. driving out to Clovis? Yeah. Corby Scherb: Ha ha ha Jim Gardner: Actually I thought that I think I thought that whenever Kennedale reposted the picture of me and my mom for corndogs last week, as a promo and I was like, this is this is what my pathetic life has come to, being the Yeah, I'm sure we're my Slim Pushins: All of my accomplishments, college football, race car, lot of lot of crew chief wins under your belt. Jim Gardner: Sh I yeah, all every time I made those college student loan payments, I thought this is gonna pay off someday. and I'm the corndog guy. Slim Pushins: I'm gonna be rich. Kennedale reposts the corn dog review of you and your mother. Corby Scherb: James saying drive from Eagle to Houston's at night, it's about like the drive from Abilene back home. It it's brutal. Jim Gardner: I'm sure. Corby Scherb: Brutal. Jim Gardner: But yeah, the the earth is still round. yeah, for a hundred percent. All right, we gotta wra wrap Corby Scherb: Are we sure? Okay. Here we go, Jeb. Come on, Jeb, come on. We're ready for it, buddy. Slim Pushins: What do we get what Jim Gardner: this up before Jeb finishes typing. Slim Pushins: No, Jeff's go ahead and make your statement, Jim. Corby Scherb: Jebby, I'm so ready. I'm so ready for round two with you. Slim Pushins: Jim's gonna be sick that day. It's just gonna be me, Corby, and Jeff. Corby Scherb: You know, we're gonna talk we're gonna talk about the Colosseum in Rome and you know, we're gonna we're gonna talk about all that stuff, Jeb. Slim Pushins: Whether or not Titan da Titanic really sank, or whether or not it was its sister ship. Jim Gardner: Can we at least just talk about Corby Scherb: We just don't know. Jim Gardner: buying a buying a racehorse first and then I'll check out. Corby Scherb: What happened to the Bermuda Triangle? Slim Pushins: yeah, during the off season I think we're gonna do racehorse talk too, aren't we, Jim? Jim Gardner: Yep, that's right. That's right. We're gonna be in the breeding. We're gonna be talking about horse breeding and trying to find us a stallion. Yeah. Slim Pushins: We're gonna we're gonna buy a percentage into a racehorse. Let everybody know how our racehorse we're gonna name it fertilizer. Jim Gardner: all right. Slim Pushins: Jeb's wondering. Jeff says he's gonna need a a whiteboard. You can have it. Bates look at Bates. Nobody's nobody's surprised by that. Bates wants in on the race courses. Jim Gardner: Everybody, I don't know if anybody's going to I don't know if anybody's going to Lawton or not. Corby Scherb: Yeah. yeah yes. yeah yes. Jim Gardner: Bates will probably outbid us. We'll be like, I think we're gonna pay this much. And he's gonna be like, and he'll raise it up on us. I don't know if anybody's going to Lawton. If you are Slim Pushins: So yeah, off season racehorse talk for pushing the cushion. Jim Gardner: yeah, if you are going to Lawton, good luck. I'm gonna be taking it easy up here in Denison. Probably go out on the lake. Give my wife a Saturday Slim Pushins: Must be nice. Corby Scherb: Surfboat? okay. Jim Gardner: night. No, not a surfboat. The exact opposite of a surfboat. So Yeah, well, you are in luck, sir. Well we are gonna get the low down. Slim Pushins: We've had some we've had some meetings with our local Taco Casa racehorse broker. So Jim Gardner: We're gonna be in. yeah, I was working on yeah, Slim Pushins: Maybe we can get Roy on board. Jim Gardner: I was working on Justin's car getting it serviced and stuff, walked inside and he had Saratoga on or something on the TV. He's got he's got number nine in the fourth. Slim Pushins: Are you are you allowed to bet on your own racehorse or is like Pete Rose betting on baseball? Jim Gardner: Ooh. I see we're gonna have to read the FAQs on the website, I guess. T Slim Pushins: James, I I don't think any of us are gonna make Eagle this year. Jim Gardner: yeah, TBD, but the the odds Slim Pushins: That means Corby Scherb: I'll be in the recliner. Jim Gardner: the odds are low, they aren't zero. Let's put it that Corby Scherb: My racehorse dot com. Jim Gardner: way. So Jeb, don't be giving it away. We don't want people to outbid us. Slim Pushins: Jesus, Jeb. We don't want all these degenerates that listen to the podcast to go raising raising prices on racehorses. I mean, let's be Jim Gardner: our s our stallions. Slim Pushins: honest. Whatever racehorse that we have the ability to invest in isn't gonna be like a descendant of like a a you know triple crown winner. Jim Gardner: Yeah, secretariat. Slim Pushins: Thanks, James. Representing while while he's in in Eagle. Jim Gardner: I can't I can't wait Corby Scherb: Yeah, talking Jim Gardner: you know next Corby Scherb: about representing, I mean like look look at his shirt right there. 'Cause it's the North Pole Nightmare, Bill Baylog. Greatest nickname. Jim Gardner: Neck next year, next year, you know, we're gonna Slim Pushins: Let's see the shirt. Jim Gardner: have the weekly power rankings. We'll have update you know, race updates and race horse updates. We'll let you know where you can bet on our long shot, the Slim Pushins: Yeah. In the ninth fur long, Jim Gardner: the slow jerk. Slim Pushins: our horse fell and broke a leg. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Anyway. All right. Everybody have a good, Slim Pushins: Okay. Jim Gardner: safe weekend. I we'll figure out something to talk about next week. Yeah, well the first thirty minutes Slim Pushins: An hour and a half. We went an hour and a half tonight. Corby apologizing to everybody in the field. Jim Gardner: walking it back. Slim Pushins: All right, everybody. Thanks a lot, as Jim Gardner: no, I was getting Slim Pushins: always. I don't know why y'all waste your time listening to the three of us, but we truly appreciate it. Makes it a lot more fun. That's why we do these lives to be able to to see comments and and bring back or bring up things that y'all want, you know, like Jim's heat race that y'all wanna talk about. Corby Scherb: Or me you know, giving credit to people, you know. Slim Pushins: Yeah, Corby apologizing. Corby Scherb: You know. The Estes family, I I I sadly don't drop DJ and Colby's name enough. so Slim Pushins: Happy birthday again, DJ, now that we know you well you were on. I don't know if you're still on, but hope it was a good one. Hair blown in the wind. Like a r like a stallion. Corby Scherb: Nicest family of the racetrack, nicest family. Slim Pushins: All right everybody, we appreciate it. Y'all have a good one.