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- 0:01Speaker 1: I was intrigued watching on the plane, the uh the
- 0:05Speaker 1: Will Caine beat down from General Keane. Holy Moley, Mark,
- 0:11Speaker 1: So let me get this straight. You're this big mister
- 0:14Speaker 1: TV star. You're the big You're the big TV guy.
- 0:17Speaker 1: You're Chris Cuomo loves you. You're a You're a regular
- 0:21Speaker 1: on excuse me, on News Nation with Chris Cuomo. Now
- 0:24Speaker 1: you're a regular on Will Kine, which makes all the
- 0:27Speaker 1: sense in the world. Excuse me, I got a I
- 0:30Speaker 1: got a piece of ice in my throat. So Will
- 0:34Speaker 1: Caine is and and you're great on that show. And
- 0:37Speaker 1: I think you're You're gonna be on again Thursday, right.
- 0:39Speaker 2: And Cuomo tomorrow night and Will Caine on Thursday after
- 0:42Speaker 2: see see all right, you're asking.
- 0:43Speaker 1: So so I'm asking because, first of all, we already
- 0:47Speaker 1: know Fredo's reputation. Now Will Caine is on the hot
- 0:50Speaker 1: seat because he got into it with General Jack Kine,
- 0:54Speaker 1: and boy did Caine just kind of box Will's ears said,
- 0:58Speaker 1: don't patronize me, just just ask the question.
- 1:01Speaker 3: And what was weird? Mark?
- 1:03Speaker 1: I saw like a twenty second snippet of it. I
- 1:05Speaker 1: didn't see the whole thing means, but every been on
- 1:07Speaker 1: social media online was bagging on your buddy, your boy,
- 1:11Speaker 1: Will Kine.
- 1:12Speaker 2: So I tried to back up and see what led
- 1:14Speaker 2: to this, because you sent me the little a post
- 1:17Speaker 2: about it, and I went looking for the clip and
- 1:19Speaker 2: it was hard to find, and you found something that
- 1:21Speaker 2: was shot in the room or something like that with
- 1:23Speaker 2: a TV on the wall. Basically, what Will was doing
- 1:28Speaker 2: is just asking questions. There's an interesting drill, and usually
- 1:33Speaker 2: it comes from performative people like Megan, Kelly, Tucker, Carlson
- 1:39Speaker 2: blah blah blah. I don't Will was not doing this,
- 1:43Speaker 2: but I think he was adjacent enough to it that
- 1:45Speaker 2: it was a little bit of a trigger. And it
- 1:47Speaker 2: goes like this, all right, we all know we have
- 1:49Speaker 2: this war operation underway, Operation Epic Fury. You don't have
- 1:53Speaker 2: to be all in for it. You don't have to
- 1:55Speaker 2: guarantee it success, you don't have to be a cheerleader
- 1:57Speaker 2: for it, but you can nitpick it to death. It's like, well,
- 2:01Speaker 2: what exactly is the endgame?
- 2:03Speaker 1: Well?
- 2:03Speaker 3: Uh, you know, what exactly is the motivation? Why? Now?
- 2:07Speaker 2: Has there been a thorough explanation of the American people
- 2:10Speaker 2: as to why?
- 2:10Speaker 3: Now? My dog knows why now?
- 2:13Speaker 2: So I think that that that will was seeking to
- 2:17Speaker 2: surround a question like that in respect for General Jack Keane,
- 2:21Speaker 2: who just a very familiar Fox Military guest guy, and
- 2:24Speaker 2: he sort of up ramped it and said, well, you know,
- 2:26Speaker 2: I have huge respect for you and your service, but
- 2:29Speaker 2: there's going to be a big butt like but why now?
- 2:31Speaker 2: But are these you know, these guys in these troops
- 2:33Speaker 2: dying forever? And he said, don't don't patronize me, just
- 2:37Speaker 2: ask the question. And at that point the rodeo was.
- 2:39Speaker 1: On, Well, you know, I bring it up not only
- 2:41Speaker 1: to tease you, because you seem to be drawn to
- 2:44Speaker 1: these volatile, controversial talk show hosts. So that's great, better
- 2:48Speaker 1: you than me. So so when you're I dare you Thursday,
- 2:51Speaker 1: when you do not I dare you? You say just
- 2:55Speaker 1: just right.
- 2:57Speaker 2: Right at the outset and he says, hey, Mark, how
- 2:59Speaker 2: you doing. Don't patronize me. Don't patronize me, how dare you?
- 3:03Speaker 1: And General Keen this is not the first time, you know,
- 3:05Speaker 1: I saw him do this over the weekend. Is something
- 3:08Speaker 1: I mean, he must speak because the other night he
- 3:11Speaker 1: was on the other I was watching Fox News coverage
- 3:14Speaker 1: over the weekend. I forget which female anchor Shannon Breem
- 3:16Speaker 1: or one of them, and he did the same kind
- 3:18Speaker 1: of thing.
- 3:19Speaker 3: He said, just got caught a question.
- 3:20Speaker 1: I'm thinking, General Keen, you got to just pump the
- 3:23Speaker 1: brakes a little. But but but let's talk about this,
- 3:27Speaker 1: because we shouldn't blindly. You know, Joey Jones said this
- 3:32Speaker 1: over the weekend, and I quoted him yesterday too. It's
- 3:34Speaker 1: okay to ask a bunch of questions about why we're
- 3:36Speaker 1: doing this. There's no reason not to. None of us
- 3:40Speaker 1: are going to blindly just just march into the fires.
- 3:43Speaker 1: We've got, now what six servicemen killed so far, so
- 3:46Speaker 1: and as people are ironically pointing out how many Israeli
- 3:51Speaker 1: soldiers are dead, none and that may be a distinction
- 3:55Speaker 1: without a difference. Now, as you probably know Marco Rubio
- 3:59Speaker 1: yesterday that we fired as a we fired first as
- 4:03Speaker 1: a preemptive strike against Tehran. The narrative, as you know
- 4:08Speaker 1: from a lot of people in magaworld, is that we're
- 4:13Speaker 1: doing Israel's bidding. That Israel said this has got to
- 4:16Speaker 1: get done. Trump said, okay, well I better get ahead
- 4:19Speaker 1: of it. So let's join with Israel and we will
- 4:21Speaker 1: take out the Ayatola. And again I'm believe me, I'm
- 4:25Speaker 1: playing devil's advocate because I'm so on board with what
- 4:28Speaker 1: we did. You think I'm going to side with Hanoi,
- 4:30Speaker 1: Jane Fonda, you know, go to choose your side carefully
- 4:35Speaker 1: on this. Ladies and gentlemen. When you start looking at
- 4:38Speaker 1: the people lining up condemning what we did, then you
- 4:42Speaker 1: know where you should be on this. But it's also kind.
- 4:46Speaker 1: Let's be honest, let's get let's talk about the elephant
- 4:48Speaker 1: in the room. This is not this is not America
- 4:51Speaker 1: just does not feel like America. First, of people who
- 4:54Speaker 1: say we don't want to start any other wars, well, I.
- 4:57Speaker 2: Have no quarrel with that. I'm not America. Only I
- 5:00Speaker 2: believe it is America first to eliminate one of the
- 5:03Speaker 2: prime global threats to America. Silly me, I have no
- 5:06Speaker 2: quarrel with that whatsoever. But you have arrived at exactly
- 5:11Speaker 2: the sentence to be diagrammed and the thing to be
- 5:15Speaker 2: unpacked was where did this start? Of course, it started
- 5:19Speaker 2: with the Iranian Revolution of nineteen seventy nine. We can
- 5:22Speaker 2: say that all day, and it's true all day. But
- 5:25Speaker 2: at this chapter in history, this moment in time, it
- 5:29Speaker 2: is the Israelis who I think came to America and said,
- 5:32Speaker 2: I think Natanyahu got with Trump and said we're going
- 5:36Speaker 2: in something about this, We are going in. It was
- 5:40Speaker 2: then the American assessment, Okay, if you guys are going
- 5:43Speaker 2: to do that, what's the first thing you're on will do?
- 5:46Speaker 2: Answer is attack us? So what did we better do
- 5:49Speaker 2: be part of the attack against them first? I think
- 5:52Speaker 2: that makes complete sense, but it also does enable somebody,
- 5:57Speaker 2: if you want to phrase it that way, to say
- 5:59Speaker 2: that the Israel is the lead dog, We're just kind
- 6:01Speaker 2: of riding shotgun. It wasn't really an American decision or
- 6:05Speaker 2: an American operation. Listen, alliances are complicated. What I boil
- 6:10Speaker 2: it down to is are good things happening? Were they
- 6:12Speaker 2: worthy goals? Do they support the interests to the American people? Yes, yes,
- 6:16Speaker 2: and yes.
- 6:16Speaker 1: And there's also a very powerful argument that this is
- 6:21Speaker 1: really all about China, and this is something for years,
- 6:26Speaker 1: Beijing has spent billions of dollars propping up and building
- 6:30Speaker 1: Iran into this big structural asset. Iran is a China asset.
- 6:36Speaker 1: So this is also a great byproduct of this military maneuver.
- 6:41Speaker 1: By striking Iran directly, the Trump administration is dismantling a
- 6:47Speaker 1: pillar of China's regional architecture.
- 6:51Speaker 2: And they're oil supply and a whole lot of their
- 6:53Speaker 2: oils exactly.
- 6:55Speaker 1: So you know, this is just a fascinating. Look say,
- 7:00Speaker 1: I'm pardon my friends here, but a masturbatory exercise where
- 7:04Speaker 1: you sit around and you say, you kind of navel gaze,
- 7:06Speaker 1: you say, well, you know what does this mean for us?
- 7:08Speaker 1: Are we gonna have boots on the ground. Look, if
- 7:11Speaker 1: it was the right thing to do, it's the right
- 7:13Speaker 1: thing to do. Presidents have promised this over and over again.
- 7:17Speaker 1: Once again, this guy delivers. Now, what does this do
- 7:19Speaker 1: to the midterms? What is this due to today's primary
- 7:22Speaker 1: there in Texas? All right, talk show boy, give me
- 7:25Speaker 1: give me your crystal ball? Apper in your crystal ball?
- 7:27Speaker 1: Is it Jasmine or tallar Rica.
- 7:29Speaker 2: I don't think a lot of people in these Texas races,
- 7:31Speaker 2: even the ones for US Senator thinking a lot. I mean,
- 7:33Speaker 2: it's obvious that Tallarico and Crockett are both hostile to
- 7:36Speaker 2: anything Trump does. I think it's obvious that that that
- 7:39Speaker 2: the Republicans are going to be I.
- 7:40Speaker 1: Didn't mean to connect them. I'm just asking sort of
- 7:42Speaker 1: as a segue New subject do you who do you
- 7:45Speaker 1: like jasmine?
- 7:45Speaker 3: Or or there's a huge surge.
- 7:49Speaker 2: It appears for woke Opie, it appears that James Tallerico
- 7:53Speaker 2: is going to win this thing, unless the polls have
- 7:55Speaker 2: been wrong, unless the vibe has been wrong, unless his
- 7:58Speaker 2: events being a lot bigger and more exciting are just
- 8:00Speaker 2: a mirage. So that's what it kind of looks like
- 8:03Speaker 2: as far as the mid terms. You know the answer
- 8:05Speaker 2: to this, and ask me in August and September and
- 8:08Speaker 2: October if it seems like this has been time well spent,
- 8:12Speaker 2: If it seems like not just that Iran has been
- 8:16Speaker 2: brought to heal and has better leadership, but also that
- 8:18Speaker 2: China and Russia have been damaged in their oil supply
- 8:21Speaker 2: and their silence is deafening. Russia and China tend to
- 8:26Speaker 2: get really upset and energized whenever you look sideways at Iran.
- 8:29Speaker 2: They're just not striking out for their ally at all.
- 8:34Speaker 2: So if it just looks like nothing succeeds like success,
- 8:36Speaker 2: and if this looks like it has been a success,
- 8:39Speaker 2: as summer turns to.
- 8:40Speaker 3: Fall, it'll be a very big boon.
- 8:43Speaker 2: To Republican chances and all the Democrats who stood against it,
- 8:46Speaker 2: are going to look ridiculous. Now the reverse is also true.
- 8:49Speaker 2: So fingers are crossed.
- 8:51Speaker 3: And you know what it does.
- 8:52Speaker 2: It sets up who's rooting for America and who's not.
- 8:55Speaker 2: Obviously we have a political side that you and I
- 8:57Speaker 2: are talking about, but to be on our side is
- 8:59Speaker 2: to root for a America. I like being on that side.
- 9:02Speaker 1: I want to go back to Texas for a moment.
- 9:04Speaker 1: Then the Washington Post does a big piece this morning,
- 9:06Speaker 1: do people not care about scandals anymore? And they talk
- 9:10Speaker 1: about Ken Paxton, who's been impeached and placed under federal
- 9:13Speaker 1: investigation and alleged, like I guess he had an affair
- 9:16Speaker 1: with his own staffers. And over you know, in Texas's
- 9:20Speaker 1: twenty third you got Tony Gonzalez. He's alleged and I'm
- 9:25Speaker 1: telling you what. You read this and your eyes start
- 9:27Speaker 1: to bleed. Despite facing allegations of having an affair with
- 9:31Speaker 1: a staffer who later died after setting herself on fire. Uh,
- 9:37Speaker 1: that's like something right out of a Gothic novel. There.
- 9:41Speaker 1: Gonzalez is married with six kids. House ethics rule. But
- 9:45Speaker 1: the take off, the takeaway for the Washington Post is
- 9:49Speaker 1: not only are they both still running. They're very much
- 9:52Speaker 1: in play. I mean, I know you're right the AID
- 9:57Speaker 1: and Paxton leads in most polls. The do people care?
- 10:02Speaker 2: Yeah, they care, but but it's not going to be
- 10:05Speaker 2: a bigger deal than getting the guy who you want.
- 10:07Speaker 2: If people voted vote for Paxston over Coin, and it's
- 10:10Speaker 2: not because they're one thousand percent okay with the path
- 10:12Speaker 2: at Ken has walked for the last twenty five years,
- 10:15Speaker 2: it just means they think he'd vote better as a senator.
- 10:17Speaker 3: And it's not like we invented this.
- 10:18Speaker 2: Yesterday, Hello Bill Clinton, who remained And boy Clinton's in
- 10:21Speaker 2: the news again you catch him in front of the panel.
- 10:23Speaker 2: But I mean Bill Clinton remains a storied, glowing reputation
- 10:27Speaker 2: Democrat despite the stuff he did in the actual White House.
- 10:30Speaker 2: So spare me the lectures from Democrats about some wilful,
- 10:34Speaker 2: wilful blindness.
- 10:35Speaker 1: How about how about Hillary's testimony They got released too,
- 10:38Speaker 1: and she she mixed it up with Nancy Mace. Hillary
- 10:41Speaker 1: was just like a screeching banshee. This is not a
- 10:45Speaker 1: pleasant lady. I mean, everybody, and I posted rather sardonically
- 10:49Speaker 1: yesterday on X cranky Hillary is the best Hillary. I mean,
- 10:53Speaker 1: she is she's got I'm not going to answer, just
- 10:57Speaker 1: scrap it. And you know, and she won't answer the question,
- 11:00Speaker 1: what was Gallaine Maxwell doing at your daughter's wedding?
- 11:02Speaker 3: Well she did.
- 11:03Speaker 2: She said that Gallaine Maxwell was a plus one for
- 11:05Speaker 2: somebody else was invited.
- 11:07Speaker 1: No, no, Jeffrey Dahmer, he was at the plus one
- 11:11Speaker 1: he was, Yeah, yeah he was. But look, here's what's
- 11:15Speaker 1: fascinating now. We let you know you and I love
- 11:17Speaker 1: the phrase, I love my chance, we like our chances. Look,
- 11:21Speaker 1: the truth is a Harris X poll came out yesterday.
- 11:24Speaker 1: Republicans are surging after Trump's State of the Union. Now.
- 11:28Speaker 1: I don't know what the Iran thing does to this,
- 11:31Speaker 1: but the Harvard Harris pole shows that Republicans are in
- 11:34Speaker 1: a much better position heading into the midterms. Right now,
- 11:37Speaker 1: on the generic ballot, they've got it literally at a
- 11:40Speaker 1: dead heat. Republicans fifty percent, Democrats fifty percent. And my
- 11:44Speaker 1: rule of polling, a tie always goes to the Republican exactly.
- 11:48Speaker 2: If it shows this, then always presume that Republicans are
- 11:52Speaker 2: being underpolled and underestimated. Give us another five I'll take it.
- 11:57Speaker 2: I'll take it. I like our chances.
- 11:58Speaker 1: That was my well, you know, I remember in another
- 12:00Speaker 1: life I was a college baseball umpire, and there was
- 12:03Speaker 1: always a one of the questions was, when there's a
- 12:07Speaker 1: bang bang play and there's a tie, you know, when
- 12:10Speaker 1: the runners goes to their run bag tie. Well, yeah,
- 12:13Speaker 1: that's not really, that's not true textbook wise, but we
- 12:16Speaker 1: tended to We tended to favor the runner when his
- 12:18Speaker 1: when when it was a tie.
- 12:20Speaker 2: So I don't know, Okay, why why was thirty seconds?
- 12:23Speaker 2: Why why was that?
- 12:24Speaker 1: Well, because if it was a tie, there was There
- 12:27Speaker 1: is no tie in baseball the way the rule book
- 12:29Speaker 1: explains it. But it looked for my judgment, and it
- 12:32Speaker 1: was you you got trained like a play at first
- 12:35Speaker 1: there's a bang bang play at first the foot hits
- 12:36Speaker 1: the bag right at the same time that the ball
- 12:39Speaker 1: hits the glove. Well, you're trained. You watch the bag
- 12:42Speaker 1: and then you listen for the pop of the ball
- 12:44Speaker 1: hitting the glove, and that's how you get that's how
- 12:47Speaker 1: you get a play right at first base and listen.
- 12:49Speaker 1: A whole bunch of things can go wrong with that
- 12:51Speaker 1: formula because you can't always great crowd, you don't always
- 12:55Speaker 1: hear the you don't always hear the ball hitting the glove.
- 12:57Speaker 3: Did you work every position? Did you work home? Yeah?
- 13:00Speaker 1: Sure, you know you rotate plate plate, third, second, First, it's.
- 13:04Speaker 2: Hard enough to do the bang bang play at first?
- 13:07Speaker 2: Base balls and strikes impossible. Do you do you think
- 13:10Speaker 2: do you favor robo umps for balls and strikes?
- 13:13Speaker 3: Now?
- 13:13Speaker 1: You know, I had a lot of conversations. I had
- 13:16Speaker 1: a great conversation with my friend who is a major
- 13:18Speaker 1: league umpire field in culb with he ret since retired.
- 13:21Speaker 3: His attitude was get the play right.
- 13:22Speaker 1: You know, they want to get it right, and that's
- 13:25Speaker 1: that's what matters at the end. But I think they're
- 13:26Speaker 1: going a little bit overboard because some of these replays
- 13:29Speaker 1: that go on for ten minutes and they go to
- 13:31Speaker 1: New York and they let's gold to the videotape.
- 13:33Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 13:34Speaker 1: I'm glad I but that was a lot of fun.
- 13:35Speaker 1: That was a chapter of my life that I loved.
- 13:37Speaker 1: There's a fraternity of officials, you know, to this day,
- 13:40Speaker 1: when I go to a baseball game or but I
- 13:42Speaker 1: don't watch the game, I watched the officials because I
- 13:45Speaker 1: always love that. In another world, another life, I might
- 13:48Speaker 1: have gone to the Harry Wendelstadt School of umpires, and.
- 13:51Speaker 3: Where you are to chase? Were you ever chased from
- 13:52Speaker 3: a stadium by violent fans?
- 13:54Speaker 1: I had to get taken out at an ambulance. They
- 13:57Speaker 1: had to take it. They had to pull the ambulance
- 13:58Speaker 1: up to the back door to sneak us out in Montgomery,
- 14:01Speaker 1: Alabama because they.
- 14:02Speaker 3: Had killed us. What had you done? I called?
- 14:05Speaker 1: I had a very and I got to play right,
- 14:07Speaker 1: Thank goodness. It was Montgomery, Alabama, the local home team.
- 14:11Speaker 1: It was the NCAA Division two College World Series, and
- 14:14Speaker 1: I had a bang bang play. I wrung some guy
- 14:17Speaker 1: out and went against the home team. They lost the game.
- 14:20Speaker 1: They were rioting, practically, they were they they were storming
- 14:25Speaker 1: the castle, and so they had to bring an ambulance
- 14:27Speaker 1: out and bring all the four umpires out. We hid
- 14:29Speaker 1: in an ambulance to sneak us out the ramp so
- 14:32Speaker 1: that they couldn't tear us from limb to limb. Oh,
- 14:34Speaker 1: those are the days, my friend,