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- 0:00Speaker 1: This is Mosher, Lombardy and Kane on demand.
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- 0:18Speaker 1: Marty Natus Across the Blue Line enters the wild zone.
- 0:21Speaker 1: Doesn't take a shot now, it's Muletsky.
- 0:23Speaker 2: Hate guys, Sam hi am.
- 0:29Speaker 3: Now let's throwing from a potter has guys, you're on dry.
- 0:35Speaker 1: Duty, take me by both and turning back and crap
- 0:39Speaker 1: plunging in skyes.
- 0:42Speaker 4: Nathan McKinnon and a London factory and we're up.
- 0:46Speaker 3: All night digging luggy Blank and Berg trying to develop
- 0:49Speaker 3: a two on one.
- 0:50Speaker 2: Blanking Berg yea in the nick of time, it's neck
- 0:57Speaker 2: blangin Burg with his birst, come here.
- 1:00Speaker 3: Out season goal fins underneath Tames, let it go, Pas gone, hands.
- 1:06Speaker 1: It off, the car car sucker, McCart hes gone, pail tail.
- 1:16Speaker 3: Break away pronounsome cantrick cat rivers, shot pads.
- 1:19Speaker 1: Gos, the conrey man can hail. Mccarr does gonna take
- 1:27Speaker 1: the shot now he does?
- 1:28Speaker 5: Pas, guys.
- 1:31Speaker 1: Pal tail looking up. McKennon has an empty net.
- 1:36Speaker 2: You bet jobs.
- 1:41Speaker 1: Nine times.
- 1:44Speaker 5: Nine times, nine times nine times.
- 1:52Speaker 4: Game one nine six win for the Avs as they
- 1:55Speaker 4: take care of Minnesota in a very odd way, especially
- 1:58Speaker 4: given how the first he's went against. La couldn't move
- 2:04Speaker 4: against the Kings. He couldn't do anything against the Kings.
- 2:06Speaker 4: And now you gave up more goals than you did
- 2:09Speaker 4: all the first round and then you score nine.
- 2:12Speaker 3: Tell me if this happened to you guys while watching
- 2:14Speaker 3: the game, because normally, when you're watching playoff hockey, man
- 2:17Speaker 3: edge of your seat, any scoring opportunity, you're like, you know,
- 2:21Speaker 3: it's just crazy.
- 2:22Speaker 1: After so many goals, it numbed you. I was like, oh,
- 2:27Speaker 1: it was.
- 2:28Speaker 4: Almost like I don't think it did, just because you
- 2:31Speaker 4: had to keep scoring. Yeah, but like they were still
- 2:33Speaker 4: all like goals that were absolutely necessary.
- 2:36Speaker 3: The game was so wide open, I almost expected a
- 2:39Speaker 3: goal on every freaking offense.
- 2:41Speaker 1: Every time the puck entered the zone, I expected a goal. Yeah.
- 2:45Speaker 5: It's one of those weird things too.
- 2:46Speaker 4: Most where I'm not look, Reggie didn't play good. I'm
- 2:50Speaker 4: not saying he did, but between him in volst that,
- 2:54Speaker 4: it's almost like, I don't blame either of you. You
- 2:58Speaker 4: guys are putting really bad spots pretty much. Although when
- 3:01Speaker 4: I look at I guess let me be a little
- 3:04Speaker 4: bit critical of both of them. Weggie, I think the
- 3:10Speaker 4: Hartman goal, he's left all by himself. But goalies will
- 3:13Speaker 4: tell you if the puck gets through you, that's a problem. Yeah,
- 3:18Speaker 4: if it beats you, that's one thing. And the vs
- 3:21Speaker 4: beat Volst at.
- 3:23Speaker 2: The entire game. I'll tell you if it gets through you.
- 3:27Speaker 2: He's like, I should have that. I'm gonna stop that
- 3:30Speaker 2: in game two, I promise you.
- 3:31Speaker 5: I'll tell you what else is different Minnesota?
- 3:35Speaker 4: And I know that they they're entirely different from La.
- 3:39Speaker 4: First of all, they're just way more talented. And I
- 3:42Speaker 4: remember the graphic going into this series. I saw it
- 3:44Speaker 4: on I think it was NHL's Twitter account, which trio
- 3:47Speaker 4: would you rather have? And it was McKennon, mccarr and
- 3:49Speaker 4: nhis and then it was Boldie, Caprice Off and Hughes
- 3:53Speaker 4: And look, I'm you'd take the Avs.
- 3:55Speaker 5: But I understand the point, Like they're really good, they're
- 3:57Speaker 5: really talented.
- 3:58Speaker 4: I think they're also I think people bred in this
- 4:00Speaker 4: series are probably going to go, you know that guy's
- 4:03Speaker 4: a pretty damn good place.
- 4:04Speaker 2: Yes, you know that kind of thing.
- 4:05Speaker 4: But they're also like, I give them this credit God,
- 4:09Speaker 4: is Minnesota go to getting traffic in front of legie like.
- 4:12Speaker 2: They really really?
- 4:13Speaker 5: They had mountains of people in front of them. Is
- 4:17Speaker 5: Wegwood had to do this like all night?
- 4:19Speaker 2: Correct, but not only And the Avs did a really
- 4:21Speaker 2: good job of screening too, Don't get me wrong. I
- 4:24Speaker 2: mean a couple of those ballsted he didn't even see them, Yakay.
- 4:29Speaker 2: That being said, Minnesota had like a lot. I think
- 4:33Speaker 2: the Abs could do a better job of that in
- 4:35Speaker 2: game two Vic, and they'll probably have to. It's not
- 4:37Speaker 2: gonna be as wide open, so they're gonna have to
- 4:40Speaker 2: get lucky with it, right, They're gonna have to get
- 4:42Speaker 2: down and get ugly at the top of the crease
- 4:44Speaker 2: and bang away in that blue paint because the goals
- 4:47Speaker 2: are probably gonna be a lot harder to come by
- 4:49Speaker 2: in game two and beyond. But they had everybody going
- 4:52Speaker 2: to the front of the net, did Minnesota? I mean everybody,
- 4:54Speaker 2: and they all bought into it. So yeah, that's why
- 4:57Speaker 2: I'm not gonna sit here in glaze many. I'm just
- 4:59Speaker 2: saying that they they played a pretty hard game.
- 5:03Speaker 3: Well, I think the return of Josh Manson may clean
- 5:07Speaker 3: a lot of that up. You know, running on a bashed,
- 5:11Speaker 3: lean front of the net with you gotta pay the
- 5:14Speaker 3: price for that. Yeah, And I think he brings that
- 5:16Speaker 3: element need.
- 5:17Speaker 2: He absolutely does. I mean, so does Brett Kulak. I'm
- 5:20Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna go ahead and give him some love.
- 5:24Speaker 2: He had one shot on goal last night, He had
- 5:26Speaker 2: no points. He was not a plus, he was not
- 5:27Speaker 2: a minus. He was just what steady, eddie and predictable
- 5:35Speaker 2: and Jared Benner will take that game every single day
- 5:39Speaker 2: of his life.
- 5:39Speaker 4: I still remember the reaction mid season. It was the
- 5:44Speaker 4: Kulak for Sammy g along with a second excuse me,
- 5:47Speaker 4: second rounder trade, and it was criticized and.
- 5:52Speaker 1: I was sitting there.
- 5:53Speaker 4: It was such a weird feeling for me because I
- 5:55Speaker 4: felt like I was on an island so many times
- 5:57Speaker 4: defending Gerard against the warms of people that were yelling
- 6:01Speaker 4: about too tiny, not good enough trade Gerard.
- 6:04Speaker 5: Then he gets traded and the reaction was like, what
- 6:06Speaker 5: are we doing? Why are we making that trade?
- 6:08Speaker 4: It looks pretty damn good now, like Koulak is such
- 6:12Speaker 4: a steady presence that you needed a guy that's played
- 6:15Speaker 4: in huge games over the last couple of years. Obviously
- 6:17Speaker 4: he's played. He's played over one hundred playoff games. Now,
- 6:21Speaker 4: like I mean, that's a hell of a lot of playoffs.
- 6:23Speaker 1: He does.
- 6:24Speaker 5: He just makes the right play every time.
- 6:26Speaker 1: Who sits when Manson comes back?
- 6:28Speaker 2: Blankenberg? Yeah? So, and what's that second pair gonna be?
- 6:32Speaker 2: Is gonna be Malinsky and Manson? I I don't know.
- 6:36Speaker 2: I mean because Kulak, I mean he can he can
- 6:39Speaker 2: play up there too, right and so and but you
- 6:44Speaker 2: know what a couple of ridings. I just this all
- 6:46Speaker 2: for Jerry Benno to work out. But I'm saying when
- 6:48Speaker 2: you look at Koolik in his game, you have to
- 6:51Speaker 2: respect the professional nature with which he plays the game
- 6:54Speaker 2: of hockey.
- 6:55Speaker 3: This game tomorrow night very responding to be huge. Going
- 6:58Speaker 3: up to nothing on that team is a big deal.
- 7:00Speaker 3: You give them life tomorrow night, and suddenly the confidence
- 7:03Speaker 3: level change.
- 7:05Speaker 5: Say what you want to say? Say what's really on
- 7:07Speaker 5: your mind?
- 7:08Speaker 1: What say? What's really the winner of game two wins
- 7:11Speaker 1: a series?
- 7:12Speaker 2: Thank you? Listen if they if they're not, if they're
- 7:15Speaker 2: gonna be without Eric, Sinek and Brodein and they are
- 7:18Speaker 2: tomorrow night. What I'm saying that situation, if you're the Avalanche,
- 7:22Speaker 2: you must take advantage of it. Have to have to,
- 7:26Speaker 2: have to, have to.
- 7:27Speaker 3: You know, we keep talking about missing players here and there,
- 7:30Speaker 3: and guys are missing, dudes. The teams that scrape and
- 7:33Speaker 3: claw and win championship pedigree teams, man, they don't care
- 7:37Speaker 3: who they're missing. When the Ads were missing Peter Forsburg
- 7:40Speaker 3: for the last two rounds, they won. Yeah they won.
- 7:45Speaker 3: They were an awesome team, but they won. Yeah, you
- 7:47Speaker 3: just win, you may do you win? Well, Ta Tampa
- 7:51Speaker 3: was up without Victor Hedman the entire series and they lost.
- 7:55Speaker 4: But it's it's part of the reason that I think
- 7:59Speaker 4: last night is weird as that was was so encouraging
- 8:01Speaker 4: because again, you're you're coming off a series in which
- 8:04Speaker 4: you've won multiple games in that series two to one.
- 8:07Speaker 5: That's the feel at hand.
- 8:09Speaker 4: And then it's like, all right, caution to the wind
- 8:13Speaker 4: Hawks on net, let's go and you win that way too,
- 8:17Speaker 4: Like they're just built to win kind of whatever style
- 8:19Speaker 4: you want to play, they can do it.
- 8:21Speaker 5: They can they can do that.
- 8:24Speaker 4: And from a depth standpoint, Mos, it wasn't just one guy.
- 8:28Speaker 4: I mean you had eight different goal scorers last night.
- 8:31Speaker 2: Eight, Yeah, thirteen different players with a point on the
- 8:35Speaker 2: ABS thirteen different guys. I thought I was way off
- 8:38Speaker 2: on this. I thought the post game would be, you know,
- 8:44Speaker 2: I'm glad we won, but man, we've really got to
- 8:47Speaker 2: close things up defensively, I thought. Both coaches, yeah, it's
- 8:51Speaker 2: kind of the opposite. I mean, Jared Bednar was John
- 8:55Speaker 2: Hines both and heines in a losing effort. But coach
- 8:59Speaker 2: Bednar comes and says that we did a lot of
- 9:01Speaker 2: really good things. And he's right about that. Their puck
- 9:03Speaker 2: movement Vic Brett, their puck movement up the ice out
- 9:09Speaker 2: of the zone terrific. Now, there were times they got
- 9:13Speaker 2: hemmed into their own end too, They got cycled to
- 9:15Speaker 2: death by Minnesota. But I thought at times the retrievals
- 9:20Speaker 2: and their exits were very very good. And I mean
- 9:25Speaker 2: getting up into the play and.
- 9:27Speaker 4: Starting rushes and forcing the Wild to backpedal and turn
- 9:30Speaker 4: and chase I thought was very good.
- 9:32Speaker 2: I mean, and the coach, And this is why these
- 9:36Speaker 2: guys are these coaches. We'll fix the defensive side, Okay,
- 9:40Speaker 2: we'll fix that. That's some adjustments that we all know
- 9:45Speaker 2: we need to make. I trust my guys the other
- 9:48Speaker 2: side will take care of itself, you know.
- 9:50Speaker 3: The EBB and flow of a hockey game when you're
- 9:53Speaker 3: watching at home and you're seeing the Avs come out
- 9:56Speaker 3: and it looked like they were going to score fifty goals.
- 9:58Speaker 1: It was just unreal. Eifacated them from the start right,
- 10:01Speaker 1: just one after another, and then how.
- 10:03Speaker 3: Quickly it can turn, and then it just turned. Oh
- 10:06Speaker 3: my god, just get the puck out of your zone.
- 10:09Speaker 3: It's really a thing to behold in hockey. That's the
- 10:12Speaker 3: beauty of playoff hockeys, how quickly that can shift.
- 10:15Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just it felt like every goal was just
- 10:19Speaker 4: like we need to respond. So it was when it
- 10:23Speaker 4: was three to two, aves go up four to two,
- 10:26Speaker 4: then it's four to three, then four to four. It
- 10:29Speaker 4: was just like we have to respond to what just happened,
- 10:32Speaker 4: and it usually happened within a couple of minutes. I
- 10:34Speaker 4: was trying to figure this out. The longest stretch without
- 10:36Speaker 4: a goal in the middle of a period. So it's
- 10:39Speaker 4: like Malenski scores a minute later, Drury a minute after that,
- 10:43Speaker 4: licking in, two minutes after that, Minnesota, a minute after that, Minnesota.
- 10:49Speaker 4: Then Blankenberg scores to make it four too. Two minutes later,
- 10:52Speaker 4: it's four to three, then it was six minutes, which
- 10:54Speaker 4: was whole six minutes without a goal, six minutes for
- 10:58Speaker 4: four two minutes or four minutes later, five to four,
- 11:01Speaker 4: two minutes later, five five.
- 11:03Speaker 5: It was just like that the whole night.
- 11:04Speaker 2: When it was seven to five, five forty three into
- 11:08Speaker 2: period three, seven to five AVS, I'm like, okay, just
- 11:13Speaker 2: play smart, and I'm watching that clock kick down, and
- 11:16Speaker 2: I'm watching that clock tick down, and I'm going, okay,
- 11:18Speaker 2: I'm going to be looking for when they pull ballstead,
- 11:23Speaker 2: I get in the hallway, bam, you know, three fifty
- 11:26Speaker 2: nine left. It's now a seven to six game. And
- 11:29Speaker 2: I'm like, no man. And then a minute five after that,
- 11:34Speaker 2: Kale comes in bag god. Yeah, and then that that
- 11:37Speaker 2: that was it. Then you knew then you know.
- 11:39Speaker 1: Who was a little quiet last night for their size? Boldy?
- 11:43Speaker 2: Yeah, it's does that make you nervous?
- 11:44Speaker 1: Yeah, because he hasn't had that game and he's damn good. Yeah,
- 11:48Speaker 1: he was in on one. He I think he hadn't assist.
- 11:50Speaker 2: He hadn't assist, but he wasn't a minus last night.
- 11:52Speaker 2: I mean so for but he wasn't long the goal scoring.
- 11:55Speaker 2: The ABS did one power play goal officially, he wasn't
- 11:59Speaker 2: a mind.
- 12:00Speaker 3: Last night, I just enjoyed watching a game where the
- 12:05Speaker 3: game was controlled by two slippery defensemen who are offensive
- 12:10Speaker 3: minded defencemen. We got ours, they got theirs. It's fun
- 12:13Speaker 3: to watch, is't it.
- 12:14Speaker 2: So when you watch Quinn Hughes slip and slide, stop, turn, stop, turn,
- 12:21Speaker 2: chape whatever he does right, and just think to yourself, well,
- 12:25Speaker 2: we've had one of those for quite some time, and
- 12:29Speaker 2: you probably didn't watch a lot of Vancouver probably, and
- 12:31Speaker 2: he's already won an horse, so he's he's a stud.
- 12:33Speaker 2: Everybody knows that. But we've had one of those for
- 12:38Speaker 2: quite some time too.
- 12:39Speaker 3: You take it for granted until you miss him. When
- 12:41Speaker 3: he was out for that first period, you're like, let's go.
- 12:44Speaker 4: Well, it's one of those rare times most you're looking
- 12:46Speaker 4: at a defenseman you're like, oh, you guys also have
- 12:48Speaker 4: somebody that can do some cool things.
- 12:49Speaker 2: M hm, yeah, Like I don't know those are really
- 12:53Speaker 2: these aren't just cool things, Brett, These are elite, no,
- 12:56Speaker 2: I super duper cool things.
- 12:58Speaker 1: I know you're not supposed to speculate on it injury,
- 13:00Speaker 1: but what do you think it is? Was it a
- 13:02Speaker 1: knee at growing?
- 13:02Speaker 4: I mean he had that right leg way up on
- 13:04Speaker 4: the glass. He was rubbing stuff like it looked like
- 13:07Speaker 4: numbing frame on his hip.
- 13:09Speaker 2: Something like that. Yeah, Vic, during the course of a game,
- 13:12Speaker 2: here's how I start to judge things.
- 13:14Speaker 1: Huh.
- 13:16Speaker 4: Okay, he by the way, when he got blown up,
- 13:18Speaker 4: he got up and made the play, retrieved the pluck,
- 13:21Speaker 4: and sent the outlet out. Then he went down the
- 13:23Speaker 4: tunnel the trainers go. But when the trainers come back
- 13:27Speaker 4: and he doesn't come back, that's why I.
- 13:31Speaker 2: Mom. That means he's with the docks.
- 13:33Speaker 3: Okay.
- 13:33Speaker 2: When the trainers come back to the bench and he's
- 13:36Speaker 2: not with him, You're like, oh god, they left him.
- 13:38Speaker 2: It just makes you nervous.
- 13:40Speaker 1: Where did you watch the game? Where were you?
- 13:41Speaker 2: Section two sixteen?
- 13:42Speaker 1: Oh so you're in the stands? Yeah? Were there a
- 13:45Speaker 1: lot of wild fans or.
- 13:46Speaker 2: Now there they were plenty of loud when they scored.
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- 14:01Speaker 4: Back after this, all right, just a couple things really quick.
- 14:03Speaker 4: I want to ask you about the Nuggets in a
- 14:05Speaker 4: second as well. But the Rockies got swept by the
- 14:09Speaker 4: Braves over the weekend. You guys know the Braves are
- 14:11Speaker 4: twenty five and ten.
- 14:12Speaker 2: Yeah, the Braves are playing good ball. You realize the
- 14:14Speaker 2: Rockies gave up twenty eight runs in the three game series.
- 14:17Speaker 5: Yeah, not great, do you think.
- 14:18Speaker 1: Do you realize Mickey Moniac is just bombs away right now?
- 14:22Speaker 5: That was his foot yesterday. He is fourth multi home
- 14:26Speaker 5: run game of the year.
- 14:27Speaker 1: Lead the Major leagues, best in the Majors. Dude's just
- 14:30Speaker 1: bombing is.
- 14:32Speaker 4: I'll say it again, this is the porpoising of this
- 14:35Speaker 4: season that it's going to be for the Rocks because
- 14:37Speaker 4: they aren't very good yet, but they're better than what
- 14:39Speaker 4: they were last year for sure, but they're going to
- 14:41Speaker 4: have the slides like this. The good news is you
- 14:44Speaker 4: now have the Mets in town. That's a team you
- 14:46Speaker 4: just swept about a week and a half ago, so
- 14:48Speaker 4: hopefully you can do that again. Now, going back to this,
- 14:54Speaker 4: the news over the weekend, as far as the Nuggets
- 14:57Speaker 4: are concerned, David Adaman will return as head coach. According
- 15:01Speaker 4: to Bennett Urrando and Chums. The other big part of
- 15:06Speaker 4: news is that everybody is seemingly on the table outside
- 15:11Speaker 4: of Nikola Jokic, which I think should be the case. Now,
- 15:13Speaker 4: let's start first with the Adaman side of this. I
- 15:17Speaker 4: would totally have understood if they moved on from Adaman.
- 15:20Speaker 4: I think I get it the argument as to why
- 15:23Speaker 4: he should stay another year, and I'm just making the
- 15:27Speaker 4: argument because I do think you have to factor this in.
- 15:31Speaker 4: To come in as a year one head coach with
- 15:33Speaker 4: the expectation of it's either win a championship or you.
- 15:35Speaker 5: Failed is tough to start with. That's tough start, big time.
- 15:39Speaker 4: Second of all, the amount of injuries you dealt with
- 15:42Speaker 4: over the course of the year that I feel like
- 15:43Speaker 4: didn't allow them to build chemistry and trust within each
- 15:47Speaker 4: other is a big factor. Losing Aaron Gordon in the
- 15:50Speaker 4: middle of the postseason, who is the X factor to
- 15:53Speaker 4: this team, is another one.
- 15:56Speaker 1: And also.
- 15:59Speaker 4: Minnesota was a tough first round matchup. They were like
- 16:02Speaker 4: all of these different things I think can be boiled together,
- 16:05Speaker 4: and a lot of people's reaction is I don't care.
- 16:08Speaker 4: I didn't want him back, and that's fine. I think
- 16:11Speaker 4: I understand it, but I don't think you can totally
- 16:14Speaker 4: discount all of those things that went into a really
- 16:17Speaker 4: weird year one for him in which, by the way,
- 16:19Speaker 4: he still won fifty four games.
- 16:21Speaker 3: I think the Nuggets need a massive shakeup, and by
- 16:25Speaker 3: virtue of how they responded in that first round series,
- 16:29Speaker 3: they are deserving of a shakeup.
- 16:32Speaker 1: They earned a shakeup.
- 16:33Speaker 3: And for anyone who may disagree with that and say, well,
- 16:36Speaker 3: you know, show more patients, give me a reason to
- 16:39Speaker 3: show more patience.
- 16:40Speaker 5: We've been patient.
- 16:42Speaker 3: Give me a reason to run it back exactly. And
- 16:45Speaker 3: I don't know how much shake up there is. I
- 16:47Speaker 3: don't know what your definition of shakeup is. But give
- 16:51Speaker 3: me a reason to take And you can't fiscally run
- 16:55Speaker 3: it back because they're going to be changes automatically. But
- 16:58Speaker 3: give me a justifiable reason to run this outfit back
- 17:02Speaker 3: for another year.
- 17:02Speaker 4: I don't have it, But can I give you a hypothetical? Sure,
- 17:07Speaker 4: and I know this can't happen, but let's just live
- 17:10Speaker 4: and make believe world for a second. If I could
- 17:12Speaker 4: guarantee you that everybody on the roster would return the
- 17:16Speaker 4: exact same team, but Aaron Gordon is fully healthy, he will.
- 17:20Speaker 5: Not be hurt.
- 17:21Speaker 1: You're guaranteeing health.
- 17:23Speaker 4: I guarantee you that Aaron Gordon will not miss a
- 17:25Speaker 4: single game next year, including the playoffs.
- 17:28Speaker 5: What do you think then?
- 17:29Speaker 2: It's pretty tempting, but you can't.
- 17:31Speaker 1: I still think.
- 17:32Speaker 3: I still think there's some areas where they have to
- 17:34Speaker 3: change the way they play. And I think the game
- 17:36Speaker 3: and we're watching it in the NBA right now in
- 17:38Speaker 3: these playoffs. Defensive minded teams who cover full court, who
- 17:42Speaker 3: are chaotic, who are doing things on the defensive end.
- 17:45Speaker 3: You see what's happening, guys. Three point teams like Boston
- 17:48Speaker 3: is a three point shooting team. They done it, They're done,
- 17:52Speaker 3: they're out.
- 17:52Speaker 1: Well, yeah you can You're done.
- 17:53Speaker 5: You can die that way really quick.
- 17:55Speaker 1: Yeah they're done. You can take that out. And I
- 17:59Speaker 1: think the Nuggets just have to get better on that end.
- 18:03Speaker 2: It can't be coached.
- 18:04Speaker 1: It has to be done vic, it has to be
- 18:06Speaker 1: done organically.
- 18:07Speaker 2: I'm sure you've been asked a lot since last week
- 18:12Speaker 2: about what can the Nuggets do. I've been asked a lot,
- 18:15Speaker 2: and I say, I'm not going to try to overthink
- 18:17Speaker 2: this thing. Something in the room is weird. I don't
- 18:20Speaker 2: know what it is. Something is off or it's not.
- 18:23Speaker 2: Are they hungry enough? Do they want it again? Once
- 18:26Speaker 2: you got that ring and got some coin in your pocket.
- 18:28Speaker 2: I don't know, but to me, the easiest move to
- 18:33Speaker 2: make the guy that even at fifty million bucks a year,
- 18:36Speaker 2: people will want is Jamal Murray. Guys, do you have
- 18:40Speaker 2: the stomach? Do you have the stomach to trade Jamal?
- 18:42Speaker 3: Right now, I'm telling you where they stand. Of course,
- 18:45Speaker 3: the stomach must be had. You've got to be able
- 18:48Speaker 3: to have everybody on the block.
- 18:50Speaker 1: If you really want to improve. Here's the unfortunate situation
- 18:54Speaker 1: for the Nuggets.
- 18:56Speaker 3: If you bring everybody back that's already under contract, you're
- 19:01Speaker 3: already up against it. Your favorite apron, You're you're already there.
- 19:06Speaker 3: So even if you don't do anything, you don't lift
- 19:09Speaker 3: the finger, you already there. We haven't even talked about
- 19:12Speaker 3: Peyton Watson and the possibility. I don't have no idea
- 19:14Speaker 3: what they plan on doing Peyton Watson. I don't know
- 19:17Speaker 3: if down the stretch, I don't know how valuable it is.
- 19:21Speaker 3: At this point, his number is going to go up.
- 19:25Speaker 3: They're increasing the salaries.
- 19:27Speaker 5: Hang on a second. To me, the number one priority
- 19:31Speaker 5: is keeping Peyton wattson.
- 19:32Speaker 4: This offseason, you wanted to get younger and more athletic
- 19:36Speaker 4: you have one on the roster if you're if you
- 19:39Speaker 4: let Peyton Watson walk, you're looking for another Peyton Watson
- 19:42Speaker 4: to put on this.
- 19:43Speaker 2: Yeah, but Brett, you can't. You can't get him in
- 19:46Speaker 2: at the price tag it's going to cost.
- 19:49Speaker 5: Without getting rid of somebody. So we're rid of somebody.
- 19:51Speaker 4: Well, my my fear too, is that one of these
- 19:53Speaker 4: teams is going to overpay. Somebody's going to like, I
- 19:58Speaker 4: can't believe you.
- 19:59Speaker 3: Hang yeah, Brett, brt No, I'll hang on with you
- 20:03Speaker 3: because I'm going to tell you something that's going to
- 20:04Speaker 3: make you change your mind on that. What's that there
- 20:07Speaker 3: are three teams that are already very interested. What if
- 20:09Speaker 3: they go beyond thirty million?
- 20:13Speaker 5: Okay?
- 20:14Speaker 1: Okay?
- 20:14Speaker 2: What bidding water four? What forty per?
- 20:16Speaker 1: Okay?
- 20:17Speaker 4: What? What? Here's the thing I was actually thinking about this, like,
- 20:21Speaker 4: what is the proper way to surround Jokic? And you
- 20:25Speaker 4: said this last week they need to be more athletic.
- 20:28Speaker 4: They looked old, they did, but they need athletic defenders
- 20:31Speaker 4: more than anything else.
- 20:32Speaker 5: Like it's gonna be weird to say, given how the
- 20:36Speaker 5: last two weeks have gone.
- 20:38Speaker 4: Jaden McDaniels would be perfect, Like and I think that
- 20:41Speaker 4: Peyton Watson could be Jaden McDaniels with more offense. Actually,
- 20:44Speaker 4: and if that's the case, like the whole thing is
- 20:47Speaker 4: you got to get younger.
- 20:50Speaker 1: He's right there.
- 20:51Speaker 3: Okay, he's right there. I would assume News also a
- 20:54Speaker 3: free agent. What if he's cheaper than Peyton Watson. Okay,
- 20:58Speaker 3: I'm just telling you, right, that's the kind of player
- 21:01Speaker 3: you want, right, But I'm just and I'm not saying
- 21:04Speaker 3: he's going to be I'm just saying that numbers factor in.
- 21:07Speaker 3: You're sort of sloughing it off like the final number
- 21:09Speaker 3: is not gonna matter. It matters heavily for a team
- 21:11Speaker 3: that's up against it.
- 21:12Speaker 5: Here's what I'm heavily.
- 21:14Speaker 4: I think you could make the argument, and it's weird
- 21:17Speaker 4: to say based off basically a month to a month
- 21:20Speaker 4: and a half of play from Peyton Montson. That's what
- 21:22Speaker 4: he's getting paid on is a month of basketball. But
- 21:25Speaker 4: it was a great month. I think that he is
- 21:28Speaker 4: at worst your third most important person on this roster, Brett.
- 21:33Speaker 1: I don't disagree with his talent level and his value
- 21:35Speaker 1: and what he means to this team.
- 21:36Speaker 2: I love the kid.
- 21:38Speaker 3: You can get priced out, is all I'm telling you
- 21:40Speaker 3: very easily. If there's another team out there that has
- 21:43Speaker 3: room under the cap. Did you hear the Brooklyn rumors?
- 21:45Speaker 1: Did you hear him?
- 21:46Speaker 3: An MPJ go Becken for Yeah, they've got money, more
- 21:50Speaker 3: money than you have.
- 21:51Speaker 4: Right, But this is the whole point of everybody being
- 21:53Speaker 4: on the market. This is what I'm getting at.
- 21:56Speaker 5: This is where trades just happen.
- 21:58Speaker 3: Just because everybody's on the market doesn't make them tradable.
- 22:01Speaker 3: It doesn't make it advices true.
- 22:03Speaker 2: Christian Brown right now is untradable.
- 22:05Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
- 22:06Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but he is.
- 22:07Speaker 4: Aaron Gordon's injury history makes him untradable at thirty three
- 22:11Speaker 4: per there's two people no and no offense because I
- 22:14Speaker 4: love those guys, But right now, if you're talking about
- 22:17Speaker 4: just business, their contracts were untradeable. If you could trade
- 22:21Speaker 4: Christian Brown, do it, but I agree with you you can't.
- 22:23Speaker 4: If you could trade ag I do it, but I
- 22:26Speaker 4: agree with you you probably can't. That leaves two guys
- 22:28Speaker 4: of substance, right it's Jamal and Cam Johnson a tradable and.
- 22:32Speaker 3: Cam Johnson came through in that game and he scored
- 22:35Speaker 3: twenty seven points and looked really good.
- 22:37Speaker 4: I'm fine on that, Okay, I don't disagree with you.
- 22:40Speaker 4: There was a lot of no Cam Johnson stuff that's happening.
- 22:43Speaker 2: I get it.
- 22:44Speaker 1: I get it.
- 22:44Speaker 3: There's a lot of contracts on this team that just
- 22:46Speaker 3: aren't playing. You got you know Zeke Naji, who's who's
- 22:49Speaker 3: making more than iod Sumnu, who just doesn't play well.
- 22:53Speaker 3: I mean, you don't think they've tried to trade him.
- 22:56Speaker 3: You don't think that's crazy. I'm just saying there's players
- 23:00Speaker 3: that they've tried to trade that they can't trade.
- 23:02Speaker 4: Just because I give you two names of guys who
- 23:04Speaker 4: definitely could be traded.
- 23:05Speaker 3: Great, what are you gonna get? I don't know when
- 23:08Speaker 3: people know, you see, and that's where I'm the bigger priority.
- 23:11Speaker 4: Though You're you're looking at what you get in return
- 23:12Speaker 4: for them, Vic, I'm telling you, this is my opening
- 23:15Speaker 4: to keep Peyton wantson on the roster.
- 23:17Speaker 5: And that's what I'm saying.
- 23:17Speaker 3: I just want to brace you, and I want to
- 23:20Speaker 3: brace everybody for I think what's going to happen. And
- 23:23Speaker 3: this is just me speculating the Nuggets might be a
- 23:26Speaker 3: scrappier team next year, a fun team. I don't think
- 23:29Speaker 3: they're gonna be as talented. I don't think you're gonna
- 23:32Speaker 3: have some I think sometimes you have to take that
- 23:34Speaker 3: quick step back. You have to to take it forward.
- 23:38Speaker 3: And I don't know how you go forward. Last year
- 23:41Speaker 3: they move forward. Last year they added to the roster.
- 23:43Speaker 3: We looked at it and said, wow, look at this,
- 23:46Speaker 3: look at this.
- 23:47Speaker 1: I don't know how you do it.
- 23:48Speaker 3: You're gonna have a lot of unknowns on the roster
- 23:51Speaker 3: next season, a lot, and we'll see how it comes together.
- 23:55Speaker 3: But if you if you go where you want to go,
- 23:57Speaker 3: those unknowns are gonna have to play quickly and learn
- 23:59Speaker 3: how to play. That's what a great point Vic just
- 24:02Speaker 3: made for the first time today. If you have unknowns,
- 24:06Speaker 3: Brett unknown or multiple unknowns, are gonna have to pop.
- 24:12Speaker 3: See and we're used to it. They're gonna have to
- 24:14Speaker 3: pop or you're going nowhere. See, Nuggets, fans, we have
- 24:17Speaker 3: been spoiled. We're used to a team of nons. We
- 24:19Speaker 3: know what they are, we've seen it, they've proven it.
- 24:22Speaker 3: Guess what next year, if you want to tear this apart,
- 24:26Speaker 3: what you're gonna have to the unknown is gonna come
- 24:29Speaker 3: into play.
- 24:29Speaker 1: And that's not necessarily a bad thing. In my book,
- 24:32Speaker 1: it's not because.
- 24:33Speaker 3: From the unknowns emerge players that you never like, Wow,
- 24:38Speaker 3: that guy's good correct or or or this didn't work.
- 24:41Speaker 2: Yeah, we need to go to a different direction. But
- 24:43Speaker 2: but you gotta sort of rebuild this.
- 24:45Speaker 1: Yeah, this clock is ticking from the nomes this much.
- 24:49Speaker 1: I do know it ain't working.
- 24:51Speaker 2: Correct Retzky, I know you know this, But I never
- 24:55Speaker 2: underestimate another GM's ability to overpay a twenty three year
- 25:02Speaker 2: old who looks awesome after one month. You know what
- 25:06Speaker 2: I mean, because you're betting on the come with this guy.
- 25:08Speaker 2: And if I was going to do that as an
- 25:11Speaker 2: NBA gm'm on Peyton Watson. I probably would because I
- 25:15Speaker 2: think he's gonna be a long term, very good player
- 25:19Speaker 2: at both ends of the floor.
- 25:20Speaker 4: You're having a different conversation than I'm having, though, I'm
- 25:23Speaker 4: telling you I know that might be the case, and
- 25:27Speaker 4: you find a way to keep him.
- 25:29Speaker 2: Okay, that's what That's what I'm saying.
- 25:31Speaker 1: I want to list for you.
- 25:32Speaker 2: He could fly the coop if he wanted to.
- 25:34Speaker 1: I want to. I want what I mean?
- 25:37Speaker 2: I mean, you can you can match, I guess, but
- 25:42Speaker 2: does he want to?
- 25:43Speaker 5: What was restricted?
- 25:44Speaker 2: I understand? So you can match but if you don't,
- 25:46Speaker 2: then he's gone gone.
- 25:48Speaker 5: Like, here's all of the things we've been talking about
- 25:52Speaker 5: about what they need. It sounds like you're describing Peyton
- 25:56Speaker 5: Watson athletic.
- 25:59Speaker 1: It's more than a player, though, Dude.
- 26:00Speaker 3: It's you're looking, You're you're you're pinpointing one player and
- 26:04Speaker 3: making it sound like one player makes all the difference.
- 26:06Speaker 3: It's it's a it's spread across the team. It's a dynamic.
- 26:10Speaker 3: It's the way they play.
- 26:11Speaker 4: I know, I know that, But I'm not saying that
- 26:14Speaker 4: Peyton Watson fixes everything. I'm saying that Peyton Watson needs
- 26:17Speaker 4: to be on the roster.
- 26:18Speaker 1: I have six items in front of me. I just
- 26:21Speaker 1: wrote down six, six things that the Denver Nuggets.
- 26:27Speaker 3: Six obstacles that they are facing going into this offseason.
- 26:31Speaker 1: A lot of teams face one or two. These are six.
- 26:34Speaker 2: You say you don't write things down typically, or sometimes
- 26:37Speaker 2: you do. The word is what was heines writing down
- 26:40Speaker 2: on this little little pad. Yeah, wouldn't even know what
- 26:43Speaker 2: to guess. That's the answer from Wild Insider drop in.
- 26:47Speaker 1: Here's what I wrote down on my little note. That's
- 26:49Speaker 1: what that's what that was. That was a dove tape.
- 26:51Speaker 1: Here Here are the.
- 26:52Speaker 3: Sixth six obstacles the Denver Nuggets face in this offseason.
- 26:55Speaker 3: Number one the repeater tax. If they get above the
- 27:00Speaker 3: attacks again this season, they will go into the repeater
- 27:04Speaker 3: and it's a big deal and they're not going to
- 27:06Speaker 3: do it. Number two relative age of the team, slow,
- 27:13Speaker 3: slow footed. They've got to get quicker and younger. Number
- 27:17Speaker 3: three injuries. Can you trust players? Can you make sure
- 27:24Speaker 3: that players are going to be available in the most
- 27:27Speaker 3: important games? Number four immovable contracts. They've got a few
- 27:33Speaker 3: of those, correct. Number five.
- 27:37Speaker 1: A dearth of draft picks.
- 27:39Speaker 2: They gave all of them. Enoughing, You got no assets
- 27:42Speaker 2: with which to work. Number six better be chemistry.
- 27:46Speaker 3: Two of your future first round picks belong to OKC.
- 27:50Speaker 3: Number six on the list of obstacles, you got two
- 27:53Speaker 3: teams in your conference that are getting younger, better, faster.
- 27:57Speaker 1: Okay, scene san Antonio, what.
- 27:58Speaker 2: About fixing the room?
- 28:00Speaker 1: Okay, you got six obstacles.
- 28:02Speaker 3: That at what I'm telling you, this is gonna take
- 28:05Speaker 3: a ridiculous amount of work to get through this list.
- 28:10Speaker 1: This is gonna take This is like, I don't know
- 28:15Speaker 1: if you can fix this in one offseason.
- 28:18Speaker 2: Well maybe you can't, but you cannot waste the rest
- 28:21Speaker 2: of the year.
- 28:22Speaker 1: It's gonna take it's gonna take some time to figure
- 28:24Speaker 1: that if we're.
- 28:26Speaker 2: VIC and I eventually one day are sleeping in our caskets. Yeah.
- 28:31Speaker 1: Now, some of you might say they.
- 28:32Speaker 2: Only pulled one one championship out of the Jokichira. I'll
- 28:37Speaker 2: be just the same with the AVS. If we're sitting
- 28:39Speaker 2: there and they've pulled one out, you're.
- 28:42Speaker 5: Gonna be like, man, you'll be rolling over in your dumption.
- 28:45Speaker 1: I don't see I don't look at I don't look
- 28:46Speaker 1: at it that way.
- 28:47Speaker 3: And frankly, I hate it when people say, oh, they
- 28:49Speaker 3: didn't take make the most out of Nicola, and they're trying.
- 28:53Speaker 1: I don't.
- 28:53Speaker 3: I don't care about player legacies. I care about teams.
- 28:56Speaker 3: That's I don't care about player legacy.
- 28:58Speaker 2: You're right, Vic, but you have the best player of
- 28:59Speaker 2: the I gotta take advantage of it.
- 29:01Speaker 3: I totally agree with you on that. What I'm telling
- 29:03Speaker 3: you is for those of you who believe just run
- 29:06Speaker 3: it back, they can't run it back. I'm telling you
- 29:10Speaker 3: that's that option is not even on the table. They
- 29:13Speaker 3: cannot run it back. Financially, it cannot happen so change
- 29:17Speaker 3: is already gonna happen. And as long as you're changing,
- 29:20Speaker 3: just do it now. Just take a big bite out
- 29:22Speaker 3: of change. Don't do a little change.
- 29:24Speaker 2: Go at it.
- 29:25Speaker 3: They can't run it back. They're not keeping Valanchounas for
- 29:28Speaker 3: another season. They're not No Tim.
- 29:32Speaker 1: Hardaway priced himself out here. He's not playing on a
- 29:35Speaker 1: veteran minimum. That was a six Man of the Year candidate.
- 29:38Speaker 1: Are you crazy? That's not happening. There are players that
- 29:42Speaker 1: are gone. So if you're making changes, go all in.
- 29:48Speaker 1: Let's make changes.
- 29:49Speaker 2: Blast thing on that, Vic. Why does the NBA CBA
- 29:52Speaker 2: have all these silly terms like repeater tax and poison
- 29:56Speaker 2: pills and apron aprons and all this crap and bird rights?
- 30:00Speaker 2: What are all these stupid little nikky.
- 30:02Speaker 1: Bits we've talked about that It doesn't matter, you know,
- 30:05Speaker 1: it is what it is.
- 30:06Speaker 3: I'm just saying, given where they stand now, changes are
- 30:10Speaker 3: gonna happen, whether you like it or not. Wilson says,
- 30:13Speaker 3: that's such a crock of peach pits. Vic, What what's
- 30:15Speaker 3: a crock? What's a crock of peach pits? That I'm
- 30:17Speaker 3: speaking the truth. I like peach pitch, but what what
- 30:21Speaker 3: what am I What am I saying?
- 30:22Speaker 1: That's not true? Here? Tell me where I'm wrong?
- 30:25Speaker 2: No, you're you're right. It's just about how to how
- 30:27Speaker 2: do you go about doing it?
- 30:32Speaker 5: It's tough for sure.
- 30:33Speaker 2: Peach pit.
- 30:35Speaker 5: Uh three oh three five, four oh nine two five.
- 30:38Speaker 4: The Avs are ahead one nothing in the second round,
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- 31:00Speaker 4: Dude Sports Radio your home for local playoff coverage.
- 31:02Speaker 2: You know what what I really liked though, it's May
- 31:05Speaker 2: fourth m hmm.
- 31:07Speaker 1: I like what Leah don't say it?
- 31:10Speaker 2: Yeah, wearing like some sort of bathing suit looking thing chained.
- 31:15Speaker 5: Up a monster?
- 31:18Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 31:22Speaker 1: Three?
- 31:24Speaker 2: Can we hear it? What you forgot? He even said
- 31:26Speaker 2: it one more?
- 31:28Speaker 3: You know it's more suitable for you, Princess Leiah. And
- 31:30Speaker 3: like Star Wars eight which he came back older.
- 31:32Speaker 2: That's for those of you who missed excess.
- 31:35Speaker 5: Hang on, we'll do it in a bit. We'll do
- 31:38Speaker 5: it in a bit to close out the show.
- 31:40Speaker 1: Next, the dumbest thing just happened. You guys just missed it.
- 31:44Speaker 1: That was the greatest commercial break ever.
- 31:46Speaker 2: Just the dumb Actually, that was just that was just
- 31:48Speaker 2: an episode of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, is what
- 31:51Speaker 2: that was.
- 31:51Speaker 1: Okay, we've learned two things out of powder today. Two things.
- 31:54Speaker 3: That is gonna it's gonna change the way I think
- 31:57Speaker 3: about you, look at you everything. You didn't know who
- 31:59Speaker 3: the venerable legendary dick button.
- 32:02Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 32:03Speaker 1: That's just ridiculous that that alone.
- 32:06Speaker 2: And then we're just you do now though, don't you.
- 32:09Speaker 1: We're talking about Anne Hathaway, and he is beautiful. Gosh,
- 32:13Speaker 1: we all agree on that.
- 32:14Speaker 3: But what did we came out of his mouth after
- 32:17Speaker 3: we mentioned Anne Hathaway, she's like fifty five.
- 32:20Speaker 5: He said that she's fifty five. It was a giant mistake.
- 32:24Speaker 4: It was a giant mistake because you're right, fifty five
- 32:26Speaker 4: is pretty much death, and she does not look like death.
- 32:29Speaker 5: I know, fifty five year olds, they.
- 32:30Speaker 4: Look terrible, They look so old and miserable, and I
- 32:34Speaker 4: mean on the doorstep. If I were fifty five, I'd
- 32:38Speaker 4: probably I get my affairs in order, I would, you know,
- 32:41Speaker 4: well need cask.
- 32:43Speaker 1: Neither of us are fifty five. That's the funny thing.
- 32:49Speaker 2: You know what?
- 32:51Speaker 4: But if I was, if I had a time machine,
- 32:56Speaker 4: it was actually a compliment. I said, she looks great.
- 32:58Speaker 4: If I had a time machine, how was your dad? Yeah,
- 33:02Speaker 4: I go back in time before you were. I mean,
- 33:04Speaker 4: i'd say, Laurie, we can't we can't ever meet. Why
- 33:09Speaker 4: we'll have one date?
- 33:10Speaker 5: Because I bring such joy into your life every day?
- 33:13Speaker 5: What would you do without me?
- 33:16Speaker 1: I mean, how do you not understand?
- 33:17Speaker 2: Ages?
- 33:19Speaker 1: No, you're right.
- 33:19Speaker 4: It was a very dumb thing, because if I saw
- 33:22Speaker 4: you tube with Anne Hathaway, something would be incredibly wrong.
- 33:27Speaker 2: Yeah, doesn't do it for me.
- 33:29Speaker 1: What what did you just say?
- 33:31Speaker 4: What? What?
- 33:32Speaker 1: Excuse me?
- 33:34Speaker 2: Excuse sorry?
- 33:39Speaker 1: You're kidding me? Right? This is just your bit?
- 33:41Speaker 2: Yeah, this is just a bit.
- 33:43Speaker 5: This is a bit that you're doing.
- 33:45Speaker 2: Okay, I you tell your Hathaways and your Kendricks and
- 33:47Speaker 2: you can just go buzz off.
- 33:49Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you right now again, let's just let's
- 33:51Speaker 4: just walk through the steps here, no company Christmas party
- 33:55Speaker 4: or or the what's the galla of the gallow they
- 33:57Speaker 4: do every year?
- 33:57Speaker 2: Right?
- 33:58Speaker 1: I walk in the gallant anymore?
- 34:00Speaker 5: Well, I'm just saying like something like that, No, we
- 34:02Speaker 5: do we don't, we don't.
- 34:05Speaker 1: I walk in.
- 34:06Speaker 5: You guys have never met my girlfriend, and I got
- 34:08Speaker 5: Anne Hathaway on my arm. We leave.
- 34:14Speaker 4: Mosure's reaction is like, you see the nothing that Brett
- 34:18Speaker 4: was with Like that, that would be your reaction if
- 34:21Speaker 4: I was with Anne Hathaway.
- 34:22Speaker 1: Is being stupid. You're being stupid, foolish.
- 34:28Speaker 2: Good for you, dude, Hi five bam?
- 34:31Speaker 1: What else?
- 34:32Speaker 5: It's insane?
- 34:35Speaker 1: Why are you so?
- 34:36Speaker 2: I'm not I'm just chill.
- 34:39Speaker 5: Does nothing.
- 34:40Speaker 1: If you're with Hendrik lun.
- 34:46Speaker 4: No, no, it would be your Daisy Keats whatever, Phoebe
- 34:52Speaker 4: Kates or whatever.
- 34:54Speaker 1: Whatever.
- 34:58Speaker 2: Hey, uh, honestly, can we get a choke out please?
- 35:04Speaker 2: For those who missed that show, Okay, the show, stay
- 35:08Speaker 2: to the end of the show because well, we gotta
- 35:10Speaker 2: do you know, we've gotta we've gotta do fact checker.
- 35:13Speaker 2: But I'm guessing a lot of people are gonna wait
- 35:15Speaker 2: around for Vic and his Leay obsession.
- 35:18Speaker 5: I really wish there was a Daisy Keats out there.
- 35:21Speaker 5: I looked for it. I couldn't find anybody.
- 35:30Speaker 1: I'm the only saying one here all entertainment.
- 35:34Speaker 2: I think it's sad there's a daisy song by John Keats.
- 35:39Speaker 3: It's sad because I got one guy who thinks and
- 35:42Speaker 3: Hathaway's a senior citizen.
- 35:45Speaker 1: I got another guy, beautiful who thinks she's not attractive.
- 35:49Speaker 2: I didn't guy.
- 35:53Speaker 4: All right, mosta, you've done a good job. I'll give
- 35:56Speaker 4: you sixty seconds to talk about your stupid horses.
- 35:58Speaker 1: Go ahead.
- 36:00Speaker 5: Oh I was chill, right, I didn't watch a Kentucky
- 36:04Speaker 5: I'm gonna give you half.
- 36:07Speaker 3: Can I say something for sure? I forgot the Kentucky
- 36:09Speaker 3: Derby was on Wow baron.
- 36:11Speaker 2: I went to a Derby party.
- 36:12Speaker 1: I had no idea until I saw it on Twitter.
- 36:16Speaker 2: Went over to Parky Garage. Dude, it was packed. You
- 36:18Speaker 2: should have you should have gone.
- 36:19Speaker 4: I don't watch horses, bring the little ones with the
- 36:21Speaker 4: little outfit on and stuff. I know anyway, uh having
- 36:26Speaker 4: golden tempo. Come from dead last? And do you know
- 36:30Speaker 4: hard it is to come from not only dead last?
- 36:32Speaker 4: This this horse is a kicker, by the way, He's
- 36:34Speaker 4: got a good kick.
- 36:35Speaker 2: But to swing all the way to the outside and
- 36:38Speaker 2: try to close ground that way very very difficult.
- 36:41Speaker 1: I've done it.
- 36:44Speaker 2: Up lookout Mount Night. To swing too wide on this
- 36:47Speaker 2: late this big bone lady and her kid.
- 36:49Speaker 5: Can I say one thing? Sure, I only I don't
- 36:52Speaker 5: pay attention to this at all. Nothing.
- 36:54Speaker 4: I did watch the race. I did watch it, but
- 36:58Speaker 4: I don't care. I like to pick the horse by
- 37:02Speaker 4: the look. I do think horses are beautiful. They're also
- 37:06Speaker 4: too strong and shouldn't exist. That's another subject horse horse.
- 37:09Speaker 2: But my horse got scratched. The puma.
- 37:11Speaker 4: Puma got scratched. Man, what's the I the horse? I
- 37:15Speaker 4: picked the one that I wanted to raise. It was
- 37:17Speaker 4: a beautiful black horse, like a white nose, white blaze. No,
- 37:22Speaker 4: I think it was great white or something.
- 37:23Speaker 5: Oh yeah yeah, And he like fell over before the
- 37:27Speaker 5: race started, didn't even.
- 37:28Speaker 2: Race, right, He dumped his jockey and didn't race. Yeah,
- 37:31Speaker 2: I know that horse was pretty. I like that one
- 37:34Speaker 2: beautiful horse dumped his jockey, didn't race.
- 37:36Speaker 5: You know what, Good for you, horse, I'm not here
- 37:38Speaker 5: for your entertainment. I'm a horse.
- 37:40Speaker 3: Did you guys see the ratings for the Kentucky Derby?
- 37:42Speaker 3: And again I I don't take pride in this. I
- 37:45Speaker 3: was playing golf, so I forgot the Derby was on.
- 37:48Speaker 3: But the ratings were out of this world. Really, best
- 37:53Speaker 3: numbers since nineteen seventy five.
- 37:56Speaker 1: You're kidding. Here's something interesting.
- 37:58Speaker 2: Eighth best, best than seventy five.
- 38:01Speaker 1: On real numbers. That nineteen point six million viewers.
- 38:05Speaker 2: I enjoy, I mean I I it was fun.
- 38:09Speaker 4: You want to hear something crazy about this as like
- 38:12Speaker 4: the world evolves humans we have evolved. There are Victor
- 38:16Speaker 4: woman Yamas in the NBA now and it's freakish.
- 38:19Speaker 1: Right.
- 38:22Speaker 4: Did you know horse times, like the times that they
- 38:24Speaker 4: finished the race have been the same for about sixty years. Horses,
- 38:30Speaker 4: horses haven't gotten faster.
- 38:31Speaker 2: The Secretariat ran one fifty nine something. You know that. Okay,
- 38:35Speaker 2: there's plenty of horma of burier.
- 38:36Speaker 5: Okay, but horses have hit like.
- 38:38Speaker 2: Dude, just read too, Yeah, do me lakes that is
- 38:41Speaker 2: on the on the track, that's about eleven twelve lengths.
- 38:44Speaker 5: Bro I got some, okay, but do you not? Are
- 38:46Speaker 5: you not hearing my point here?
- 38:48Speaker 1: Listen to him.
- 38:49Speaker 4: People get faster, Things get faster, things evolve, they get better,
- 38:52Speaker 4: training gets better.
- 38:54Speaker 5: Horses the exact same for sixty years.
- 38:56Speaker 1: Specialization. Well there's no horses aren't playing other sports?
- 39:00Speaker 5: Well then why the hell are is it such a
- 39:02Speaker 5: cottage industry to be feeders?
- 39:05Speaker 1: Because I want to be the feeder? Why is that
- 39:08Speaker 1: such a cottage industry?
- 39:09Speaker 2: If things don't get better?
- 39:10Speaker 1: I got I got something.
- 39:11Speaker 3: Think of the greatest sports family ever. Like, who would
- 39:15Speaker 3: you consider the greatest sports fan?
- 39:19Speaker 1: Who would you consider the greatest sports family ever? A
- 39:22Speaker 1: family of sportsmen? Who would they be? Man?
- 39:25Speaker 2: Get pretty good?
- 39:26Speaker 3: Let me give you no, let's stop, let me give
- 39:28Speaker 3: you the greatest sports family. Secretariat exactly right. Nineteen of
- 39:33Speaker 3: the twenty horses in that Kentucky derby. You just watched
- 39:38Speaker 3: our descendants of Secretariat. That dude produced.
- 39:46Speaker 2: That dude never never do triple crown champion, but but
- 39:50Speaker 2: he's produced some you know you and the big Red
- 39:52Speaker 2: Dyed the am I am, I am I losing Secretary
- 39:58Speaker 2: was a big.
- 40:01Speaker 5: Did you just I know you have nicknames for everybody motion,
- 40:04Speaker 5: but did you just nickname a nickname?
- 40:07Speaker 4: No?
- 40:07Speaker 1: That was his name.
- 40:08Speaker 2: Secretary's nickname was Big Red.
- 40:11Speaker 5: His nickname is Secretariat.
- 40:13Speaker 2: That's his name name. Like your name is Brett Kane
- 40:16Speaker 2: and I call you dill bag same thing, Big Red.
- 40:20Speaker 2: He died in eighty nine. Bro, I wish i'd seen
- 40:22Speaker 2: that horse in person.
- 40:24Speaker 5: Oh yeah, what who was it, victa that he used
- 40:26Speaker 5: to what a weird thing to be obsessed with?
- 40:29Speaker 2: Or the calium at farms. Him and the other guy,
- 40:31Speaker 2: the other horse after they were putting out to stud
- 40:35Speaker 2: they would they would meet each other at the fence
- 40:37Speaker 2: because they were in separate fields, and they would race
- 40:40Speaker 2: each other up and down the fence.
- 40:44Speaker 4: Your obsession over that horse is it's such a He's
- 40:47Speaker 4: one of the greatest animals in the history of the world.
- 40:49Speaker 2: Man, you find me a blue whale that can do that?
- 40:53Speaker 3: Well, I do find your your point interesting that the
- 40:57Speaker 3: times for these horse races have not changed, and yet
- 41:00Speaker 3: humans everything's changing. Yeah, four minute mile was broken and
- 41:04Speaker 3: getting the marathon. We're getting faster, bigger. Maybe these horses
- 41:08Speaker 3: are just lazy.
- 41:09Speaker 4: Well somebody said there's not exactly a lot of genetic
- 41:12Speaker 4: diversity within the horses.
- 41:13Speaker 5: I'm like, okay, fine, but don't things evolve.
- 41:16Speaker 1: Maybe they're just lay You're like, nah, I'm good today.
- 41:19Speaker 5: Wouldn't you find like a wouldn't maybe better?
- 41:22Speaker 2: Maybe they're all vaping.
- 41:27Speaker 5: What turns into Azalea of the smoking.
- 41:30Speaker 2: Put away the vepe, put away the vapes.
- 41:31Speaker 1: Hey, listen, we've improved our forty time year over year.
- 41:35Speaker 1: You haven't done anything that actually.
- 41:38Speaker 5: Pisses me off. Now I think about it.
- 41:41Speaker 2: Hey, Nelly, before we're out of here, please just entertain me.
- 41:43Speaker 2: Please the fact checker in.
- 41:47Speaker 1: The other here, y go.
- 41:55Speaker 3: A young princess SLEI when shoes weren't in that get
- 42:01Speaker 3: up and she was choking that big monster from behind.
- 42:11Speaker 3: And she was choking that big monster from behind. That
- 42:22Speaker 3: never gets old for me that you have to have
- 42:25Speaker 3: a statute of limitations. You just can't ultime.
- 42:28Speaker 5: It sounds like that's what Secretariat did for twenty years
- 42:30Speaker 5: after he got done racing.
- 42:32Speaker 2: Oh man, all they said it was rever Ridge, So
- 42:35Speaker 2: Secretary would race rever Ridge up and down.
- 42:37Speaker 1: I don't risk.
- 42:41Speaker 4: You.
- 42:41Speaker 1: Don't you cool?
- 42:42Speaker 5: You're you're hang on, hang on? I won't you listen
- 42:44Speaker 5: to me?
- 42:45Speaker 2: And Secretary is weird.
- 42:47Speaker 4: No, the time that you have spent in this calendar
- 42:51Speaker 4: year twenty twenty six of talking or mentioning Secretary is done.
- 42:55Speaker 4: There is no more until we hit twenty twenty seven.
- 42:58Speaker 4: So you you have to go now, a good seven
- 43:01Speaker 4: months of not saying secretary again.
- 43:04Speaker 2: How about if I just shut my hole for a while.
- 43:06Speaker 1: Even if you.
- 43:07Speaker 5: Say secretary, I think that's pushing it to how.
- 43:09Speaker 2: About when we get to the Belmont, we play Here's
- 43:12Speaker 2: run in the Belmont from seventy three, and I won't
- 43:15Speaker 2: ask for I'll tell you what. I won't ask for
- 43:17Speaker 2: anything else.
- 43:19Speaker 4: No, it's done, finished, not a single If I hear
- 43:25Speaker 4: sec come out of your mouth, I don't care if
- 43:26Speaker 4: you say.
- 43:27Speaker 5: Second, I'm cutting you off.
- 43:29Speaker 2: Did you say I want to have.
- 43:32Speaker 5: Secretariat?
- 43:33Speaker 4: You know.
- 43:36Speaker 3: I can't wait for tomorrow night. Obviously, then we have
- 43:39Speaker 3: to wait four days. But I'm not used to having
- 43:43Speaker 3: this void in early May. Yeah, shut up in a
- 43:46Speaker 3: fact checker, it's weird.
- 43:51Speaker 2: Nelly monitors the mistakes in today's fact checker fact check.
- 44:01Speaker 4: This.
- 44:02Speaker 6: Speaking of Vic's massive void earlier today, Brett did not
- 44:08Speaker 6: know about the existence of one Richard Button, and Vic
- 44:13Speaker 6: and Moje decided to handle it by saying this the.
- 44:15Speaker 2: Legend are you busting on? You're kidding me as a
- 44:21Speaker 2: as a youth, I didn't seek out Dick, but.
- 44:25Speaker 1: Dick comes to you.
- 44:30Speaker 5: I had no idea. I'm so sorry, but again when
- 44:33Speaker 5: I said, your old man knows.
- 44:34Speaker 2: Thank God for Troy.
- 44:35Speaker 4: When I saw the picture of Dick Button and it
- 44:40Speaker 4: was it looked like it was two years past color televisions.
- 44:43Speaker 2: And you guys are yelling at me for not knowing
- 44:45Speaker 2: that sad. Really it speaks.
- 44:48Speaker 3: It speaks to your generation unwillingness to look in the past,
- 44:52Speaker 3: unwillingness to open a history book.
- 44:53Speaker 2: Do you know, Yeah, Dick Button one of my favorite
- 44:57Speaker 2: figure skaters of all time.
- 44:59Speaker 1: Boom, great analysts, a great figure analyst.
- 45:04Speaker 2: And he's your age, he's Cane's age.
- 45:07Speaker 1: No, No, your guys are about the same age.
- 45:09Speaker 2: Oh, he's a little older.
- 45:10Speaker 5: He's a little older than me.
- 45:12Speaker 1: Really, Coach looks younger than Kanes. Get me a little
- 45:14Speaker 1: worn out.
- 45:14Speaker 2: I think Coach is fifty five years old. No, I'm
- 45:17Speaker 2: actually fifty three.
- 45:19Speaker 4: iTunes Spotify, Muslimbardy and Canes where you can find the
- 45:21Speaker 4: podcast Atom and Morning Sprint.
- 45:23Speaker 3: Next, a young princess Slaiyah when she was wearing that
- 45:28Speaker 3: get up and she was choking that big monster from behind,