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Ross & Rizzo WORLD SERIES PREVIEW: Brewers vs. Rays for first EVER championship | MLB Playoffs · Ross and Rizzo Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: For the first time, Rossi, one franchise will be a
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  Speaker 1: World Series champion. Never won in Tampa. They never won
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  Speaker 1: in Milwaukee. So that whole franchise, the fan base, it
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  Speaker 1: should be, from a fan standpoint, an amazing World Series.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of Ross and Rizzo Unfiltered.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Anthony Rizzo with my partner, David Ross. Rossi, we
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  Speaker 1: are here. The fall classic, the World Series, the mecca
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  Speaker 1: of baseball will run through Tampa Bay and Milwaukee. Game
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  Speaker 1: one on Friday up in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. The Brew Crew
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  Speaker 1: versus the Rays, Rossi. We are finally here at the
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  Speaker 1: World Series.
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  Speaker 2: I need your help. I need your help. I'm going to,
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  Speaker 2: I'm heading out today to get up there and do
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  Speaker 2: pre and post for ESPN. Do I take my rings?
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  Speaker 2: You don't take your rings, right? You don't take I've
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  Speaker 2: got a world series watch from Boston with Boston strong
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  Speaker 2: that Hubo made for us. It's really cool. Like, do
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  Speaker 2: I get a little flashy? It's not really my style,
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  Speaker 2: but I take any of the rings to wear or
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  Speaker 2: just wait till like, if we get to a game seven,
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  Speaker 2: then I bring out all the hardware. What are your thoughts?
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  Speaker 2: I need, I need some, I need some, uh, what
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  Speaker 2: do you call it? Stylist advice.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, I don't, I'm not, I don't personally wear the
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  Speaker 1: world series. My only ring world series ring. You have two. So, uh, I,
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  Speaker 1: Boston and Chicago is pretty– that's a flex, Rossi, for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I think maybe game seven. Okay. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I agree. I agree.
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  Speaker 2: Bring out all the hardware, the jewelry for game seven.
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  Speaker 2: Let it get a little flashy. Bring out the suit.
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  Speaker 2: I'll probably wear like a sport coat, some slacks. You know,
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  Speaker 2: when you go to game seven, then it's like pull
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  Speaker 2: out the tux almost. You know, get it all going. So,
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  Speaker 2: all right. All right, I just needed some advice on that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're going to look really nice and snazzy there
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  Speaker 1: on your big ESPN pre and post. I'm excited to
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  Speaker 1: watch you. I like when you get all media savvy there.
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  Speaker 1: Buttoned up tie. Who's working the game with you?
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  Speaker 2: I've got, it would be, everybody would be popping in.
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  Speaker 2: Otto's there, but I don't think he's with us. It's
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  Speaker 2: me and Curt Shin, and Eduardo's doing radio. A bunch
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  Speaker 2: of those guys will be around. Buster, I think, will
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  Speaker 2: all be around, but popping on the desk. But on
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  Speaker 2: the desk is Kevin Agande, me, and old Timmy K.
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  Speaker 2: So Timmy K's got all the history, bro. That guy's the,
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  Speaker 2: he's like literally my favorite. I've got dinner with him
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  Speaker 2: and Eduardo tonight. So excited. Excited to get there. Excited
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  Speaker 2: for this thing to start.
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  Speaker 1: Brewers.
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  Speaker 2: Rays let's give the folks a rundown of how we
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  Speaker 2: got here.
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  Speaker 1: I mean bro two of the best teams the best
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  Speaker 1: teams in the American League and National League Brewers 103
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  Speaker 1: and 59 won the NL Central one seed best record
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  Speaker 1: in all of baseball right they had the first round
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  Speaker 1: by everyone always wants to talk about the layoff between
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  Speaker 1: rounds they come out they beat the Padres three to
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  Speaker 1: one in that division series. They sweep the Dodgers, which
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  Speaker 1: I said in a show before, no one saw that coming.
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  Speaker 1: And they've just played a really clean brand of baseball.
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  Speaker 1: They've had big hit after big hit. They get punched.
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  Speaker 1: They come back. One team scores. They score again. They
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  Speaker 1: score again after. They just keep applying pressure. So Jackson
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  Speaker 1: Cherio has been great. Jake Bowers has been amazing. William Contreras, amazing.
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  Speaker 2: Terang.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Christian Yelich, big hits. The whole team offensively
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  Speaker 1: feels like they're gelling. They have that vibe, it seems like,
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  Speaker 1: in the clubhouse led by Pat Murphy. And their pitching
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  Speaker 1: is dominant. You know, Mizorowski leads it, and their back
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  Speaker 1: end of their bullpen has been basically flawless.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then on the flip side, we've got the
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  Speaker 2: best team in the American League, the third-best record behind
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  Speaker 2: the Brewers and Dodgers during the regular season. going up
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  Speaker 2: to Milwaukee. Milwaukee's got home field advantage, which I think
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  Speaker 2: is going to play big into this. Both teams have
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  Speaker 2: been great at home. The Rays not as great on
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  Speaker 2: the road, but they get started and win their division
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  Speaker 2: and get a bye as well.
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  Speaker 1: A little layoff.
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  Speaker 2: They come in, sweep the Yankees, and then obviously just
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  Speaker 2: the series that just ended between them and the Cleveland
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  Speaker 2: Guardians was back and forth. Very intense, and I felt
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  Speaker 2: like The Rays just got better as the series went
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  Speaker 2: on and went deeper and deeper there. The bats got better.
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  Speaker 2: You saw the guys out of the bullpen and mix
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  Speaker 2: and match and what Kevin Cash is doing. I'm excited
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  Speaker 2: about this matchup. Chandler Simpson, Aranda, Yandy Diaz, Junior Caminero.
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  Speaker 2: We got all the boys, all the stars in two
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  Speaker 2: small markets. These guys have really made names for themselves
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  Speaker 2: in this postseason. And this is the time of year
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  Speaker 2: where you really put your stamp on, you know, your
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  Speaker 2: moment in baseball. And somebody, a few guys, I think,
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  Speaker 2: will have moments throughout this series. And I think it's
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  Speaker 2: going to go long, too. I don't think it's going
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  Speaker 2: to be, you know, you touched on it already, the
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  Speaker 2: layoff for the Brewers. Is that going to be a
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  Speaker 2: factor at this point? You know, they're going to have
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  Speaker 2: to get back to their rhythm and their at-bats. somebody's
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  Speaker 2: going to have a moment. Somebody's going to make a
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  Speaker 2: name for themselves in this postseason. I can't wait to
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  Speaker 2: see who it is.
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  Speaker 1: No doubt. Bro, for the first time, Rossi, one franchise
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  Speaker 1: will be a World Series champion. Never won in Tampa.
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  Speaker 1: They never won in Milwaukee. So that whole franchise, the
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  Speaker 1: fan base, it should be, from a fan standpoint, an
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  Speaker 1: amazing World Series, right? If you're a visiting fan going,
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  Speaker 1: if you're From Milwaukee, you're going to Tampa. You're Tampa
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  Speaker 1: going to Milwaukee. I feel like the fan experience should
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  Speaker 1: be really special. I remember in 16 how special it
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  Speaker 1: was between the Indians fans at the time. They were
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  Speaker 1: the Indians and the Cubs, right? Teams that have not
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  Speaker 1: won in, you know, the Indians didn't win in 50
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  Speaker 1: plus years. We haven't won in 108. So the fan
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  Speaker 1: experience is really cool. So I'm looking forward to that.
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  Speaker 1: That fan experience should be something special because, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you have, You have families that grew up diehard Tampa
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  Speaker 1: Bay Rays fans, right? The franchise has been there for
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  Speaker 1: as long as people have been alive now. And same
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  Speaker 1: with Milwaukee, where a lot of history, you know how
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  Speaker 1: the people of Wisconsin feel about the Packers. You know,
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  Speaker 1: the Bucs won a championship in Milwaukee, and now the
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  Speaker 1: Brewers are there. So really cool that first-time World Series
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  Speaker 1: champion winner. I am worried, Rossi, something that just to
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  Speaker 1: look for in this series is is if the Brewers
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  Speaker 1: go down game one, they haven't really been punched at
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  Speaker 1: all yet. It's been, bro, they've lost one game since
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  Speaker 1: September 21st. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: They're rolling. They're rolling.
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  Speaker 1: If they lose two games in a row and go
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  Speaker 1: down 2-0, that's a fucking, like, that's a haymaker they're
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  Speaker 1: taking early, you know? It's a long seven-game series, but
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  Speaker 1: that's one thing early to look out for is If
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  Speaker 1: they do get punched, they've shown every bit of resiliency
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  Speaker 1: to respond. It's just they haven't been punched.
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  Speaker 2: In a minute. Yeah, and I agree with you. I
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  Speaker 2: think I was looking at kind of the matchups, and
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  Speaker 2: if I was going to predict who wins game one
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  Speaker 2: against the Miz and Rasmussen on the mound going at it,
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  Speaker 2: I want to lean towards Rasmussen. the raise because of
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  Speaker 2: the lack of the layoff Rasmussen can really pitch. The
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  Speaker 2: Miz hasn't had his moment yet in the postseason. I
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  Speaker 2: know he's a horse, but he's looked, you know, for
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  Speaker 2: lack of a better term, I don't think it's a
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  Speaker 2: negative thing I'm trying to say.
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  Speaker 1: He's looked human?
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  Speaker 2: He's looked, yeah, like, he's just looked young, right? Like,
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  Speaker 2: in some of that, you can tell he's amped up,
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  Speaker 2: and harnessing that is one of the things you learn
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  Speaker 2: as you are in the league, get to the postseasons
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  Speaker 2: a lot, and the more you've kind of stepped up. But,
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  Speaker 2: On the other hand, he's had two outings that were fine.
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  Speaker 2: It just wasn't his dominant self. I could really see
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  Speaker 2: him stepping up and dominating game one. But if I
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  Speaker 2: was going to pick, I would pick the Rays because
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  Speaker 2: of the rhythm that they're in and with Rasmussen on
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  Speaker 2: the mound. So that being said, how does Milwaukee bounce back, right?
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  Speaker 2: And if they do get punched in the face, what
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  Speaker 2: does that look like? I think the teams that can
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  Speaker 2: steal a game on the road may have a chance
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  Speaker 2: to really win this because of how well these teams
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  Speaker 2: both play at home. I'm excited about the atmosphere in Milwaukee.
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  Speaker 2: The tailgating is going to start, I think, probably somebody's
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  Speaker 2: going to be cooking breakfast in the parking lot over there.
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  Speaker 2: And there will be a lot of Miller Highlifes being
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  Speaker 2: thrown around, I'm sure, that day for this series. I'm
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  Speaker 2: super looking forward to how Milwaukee comes out because Milwaukee,
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  Speaker 2: Just the eye test that we've seen, they've been the
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  Speaker 2: better team in the postseason. As dominant as they've been,
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  Speaker 2: their at-bats, their willingness to take walks. Just add on. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and it's a full-team effort. I just feel like they've
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  Speaker 2: looked better, but we know how baseball is. That whole
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  Speaker 2: dynamic doesn't matter once you get punched in the face.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you said about Miz, right? And Miz versus Rosserson
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  Speaker 1: in Game 1, which is an elite pitching matchup.
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  Speaker 2: Miz.
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  Speaker 1: has had a swing and whiff rate on his fastball
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  Speaker 1: at 40% during the regular season. In the postseason, small
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  Speaker 1: sample size, right?
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  Speaker 2: Only what?
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  Speaker 1: 8-12 innings? 16% on his fastball. So, the Rays swing
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  Speaker 1: and miss the least in all of baseball. So that
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  Speaker 1: 105 is not going to phase them I feel like
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  Speaker 1: everyone's throwing 100 but I mean look this is going
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  Speaker 1: to be the for sure Cy Young candidate it would
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  Speaker 1: be great for him to go 6 or 7 and
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  Speaker 1: just absolutely dominate the game right for him his stake
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  Speaker 1: for that whole staff for the whole organization but yeah
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  Speaker 1: those are numbers like 60% swing and miss as opposed
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  Speaker 1: to 40 like for me, I'm looking at everything. Like,
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  Speaker 1: is he tipping his fastball? Is he tipping a, is
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  Speaker 1: he tipping a change? Like, is he tipping one pitch? Right.
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  Speaker 1: Like I always look into those, those, cause that's a
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  Speaker 1: huge numbers drop off. Well, and the Rays don't, they're,
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  Speaker 1: they're the best team at putting the ball in play.
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  Speaker 1: They don't, they swing and miss the least of everybody
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  Speaker 1: in major league baseball. So yeah, he's going to have
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  Speaker 1: a tough matchup.
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  Speaker 2: Like you know, I thought Junior Caminero kind of came
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  Speaker 2: on late for the raise offensively, but his at-bats kind
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  Speaker 2: of got emotional here and there at times, and he
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  Speaker 2: started kind of getting locked in a little bit later
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  Speaker 2: in that series, so he's going to need to take
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  Speaker 2: another step forward for me in this series. Yandy keep
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  Speaker 2: doing what he's doing. Aranda's a big factor. I think
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  Speaker 2: both catchers, you know, I love talking about the catchers.
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  Speaker 2: You've got two good ones in Liam Hicks and William Contreras,
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  Speaker 2: and You know, these two guys have been in the
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  Speaker 2: middle of it all, and the challenging aspect, they've both
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  Speaker 2: been pretty good at it from a catching standpoint. They've
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  Speaker 2: gotten big hits. They've gotten homers. I think William had
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  Speaker 2: an easy chance to be the MVP of the last round.
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  Speaker 2: You know, again, both teams are so evenly matched in
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  Speaker 2: so many areas that, you know, it's hard for me
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  Speaker 2: to see this thing not going, you know, I think
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  Speaker 2: it's going to be seven games.
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  Speaker 1: I hope we get a game set. That would be great.
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  Speaker 1: That would be amazing. You know, these teams are, yeah, right.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to come down to the big hits, the
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  Speaker 1: situational hitting, the little things, which these teams are the
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  Speaker 1: best at, right? It's really the product and brand of baseball.
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  Speaker 1: Like I know we've talked about them being smaller markets
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  Speaker 1: and Major League Baseball, obviously for network television, you always
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  Speaker 1: want the bigger markets, but the product of baseball is,
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  Speaker 1: with these two teams is such an old school feel.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: Where it's like they're bunting, they're moving guys over. Fuck,
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a couple hit
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  Speaker 1: and runs in this series, Rossi. We haven't seen that
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  Speaker 1: since you were playing. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: I put a couple of those on when I managed,
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  Speaker 2: and I was like, that feels good when it works out.
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  Speaker 1: That feels good.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody hit and runs, I don't think, anymore. Nobody moves
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  Speaker 2: the baseball. Hey, you know who I'm pumped for is, like,
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  Speaker 2: freaking Johnny Peralta, like, Freddy Fastball. I'm sorry, not Johnny Peralta.
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  Speaker 2: Freddy Peralta. I played against Johnny Peralta in shortstop for Cleveland.
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  Speaker 2: Freddy going back to Milwaukee and that dynamic. He had
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  Speaker 2: such a great career there. Got traded away and now
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  Speaker 2: he's back in the biggest moments. I hope he gets
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  Speaker 2: a standing ovation at announcements when that starts on Friday.
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  Speaker 2: That's going to be really cool to see him back
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  Speaker 2: in that environment pitching against his guys and He's he
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  Speaker 2: faced him once with the Mets this year, and I
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  Speaker 2: don't think it turned out too well. So we'll see
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  Speaker 2: how he bounces back. Obviously he's a different version now
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  Speaker 2: than he was when he was with the Mets, but
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  Speaker 2: I don't, that'll be, that'll be a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 1: That'd be a lot of fun. No doubt, bro. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Jake Bowers played for the Rays, right? Yeah. He's the Brewers.
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  Speaker 1: So there's a lot of, there's a lot of personal
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  Speaker 1: storylines that I'm sure will blossom throughout this world series
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  Speaker 1: and come to light.
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  Speaker 2: Um, Rasmussen was traded for Adamas. Did you know that?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So, yeah. There's some good stuff. There's some good stuff in,
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  Speaker 2: like you said, the underlying. So, hey, like what are,
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  Speaker 2: if you're picking some key factors for a team to win,
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  Speaker 2: like what would those be? What do you think needs
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  Speaker 2: to happen for both these teams because they're so evenly matched?
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  Speaker 1: I think whoever's bullpen doesn't break, right? Like, you can
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  Speaker 1: maybe bend a little bit, but the Brewers have the
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  Speaker 1: best bullpen all season. They have a 1-3. They've been
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  Speaker 1: unhittable in the postseason thus far. They're not overworked. Both
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  Speaker 1: bullpens haven't been too exposed yet, right? So that's the
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  Speaker 1: biggest key. I mean, guys are going to have to
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  Speaker 1: have timely hits, but which guys in the bullpen are
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  Speaker 1: going to really even step up even more and just
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  Speaker 1: dominate these games? Cause you know, the managers are obviously,
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  Speaker 1: they go to them, they grow them early to go
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  Speaker 1: off and they're their safety blankets. And these, these guys
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  Speaker 1: that call me the offensive lineman, they're down there and they're,
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  Speaker 1: they're your, they're the, they're infantry. They're, they're front of
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  Speaker 1: the line. Like they're your guys.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: So that's my biggest one.
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  Speaker 2: Adam, Adam Dunn used to call him the kickers. All
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  Speaker 2: the pitchers were kickers on the team going to his
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  Speaker 2: football background. I'm, I'm with you, man. The, the, the
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  Speaker 2: Brewers bullpen, when you're talking about your rebate, Aaron Ashby, McGill.
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  Speaker 2: Aaron Ashby to me is such an important factor. The
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  Speaker 2: guy can give you multiples. His stuff is absolutely electric.
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  Speaker 2: And they've got guys all around him that are great
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  Speaker 2: that can pick up the slack if he has an
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  Speaker 2: off night. And I do think this Brewers team carries
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  Speaker 2: that kind of grit and toughness that it feels like
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  Speaker 2: their manager brings as well. And Murphy, it's crazy because
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  Speaker 2: their bullpen's been so dominant. 12 in a third innings,
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  Speaker 2: no runs allowed for Ashby. Like, he's been dominant. Thanks, Chris.
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  Speaker 2: Chris Tran, shout out with that stat.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. You know what, Rossi? Can the Brewers, they hit
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  Speaker 1: the second fewest home runs throughout the regular season. And Milwaukee,
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  Speaker 1: what is it, family? Whatever, Miller Park, I call it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: American Family Field, I think it is now. American Family Field,
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  Speaker 1: there it is, sorry. To the American families out there
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  Speaker 1: at the field. Write that.
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  Speaker 2: That was good.
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  Speaker 1: They hit the second fewest home runs in the big
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  Speaker 1: leagues throughout the season. And that's a great park to
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  Speaker 1: hit in, Rossi. I mean, that place flies. Sure. So,
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  Speaker 1: and this postseason, it's been totally reversed. They've hit 10
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  Speaker 1: home runs in seven games. William Couturier has three. Couturier
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  Speaker 1: has two. Mitchell has two. Jake Bowers. You know, David
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  Speaker 1: Hamilton has one. So, can they keep that up with
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  Speaker 1: this dominant race pitching staff, right? Obviously, they kind of
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  Speaker 1: relied on the long ball a little bit to an extent.
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  Speaker 1: They obviously don't need to win with the long ball.
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  Speaker 1: They've proven that all year. In the race, these guys
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  Speaker 1: hit home runs. Like, Yandy hits home runs. Junior Caminero
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  Speaker 1: hits home runs. So, dude, it's just up and down
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  Speaker 1: each lineup. As a baseball fan, as a fan of
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  Speaker 1: the game, you're excited. Like, yeah, hands down.
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  Speaker 2: Well, when you're talking about the offenses, you mentioned a
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  Speaker 2: bunch of those names, but it is those guys, you know,
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  Speaker 2: five through five, six, seven, eight in the lineup. Those
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  Speaker 2: guys that have quality at bats get on base, get
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  Speaker 2: the big hit when these other guys are taking their
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: walks or if you're not letting certain guys beat you
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: in the lineup. Um, those are the guys become extremely
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: valuable like that. Like, you know, the eight hole hitter,
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: like me going deep in game seven. It's not about me,
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: but just want to throw it out that there was,
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: I was a big hit, uh, one by one. I'm
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: just saying, um, but just kidding. All it's kidding aside.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: It is the, it is a full team dynamic and the,
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: the lineup that the brewers have. And I'm trouble. We're
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: talking so much about the brewers just cause I, I love, uh,
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: just how they've played this year as a whole, and
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: then the postseason has just carried on. That's why I
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: feel like that factor is, that layoff factor is so important,
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: but I feel like their lineup is just a little
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: bit deeper than the Rays right now, but we'll see.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: We'll see how this thing plays out.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think an X factor for me from both teams,
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: I want to hear your X factors. One for me
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: for the Rays is Yandy Diaz, right? He hits the
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: home run. He calls game in game six of the
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: championship series. He hits a home run on that. He
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: can manipulate the baseball. He's a pure hitter, right? And
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: he's feeling good going into this where you have to
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: worry about Caminero as well. But Yandy, I don't think,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: is going to let the moment get too big, right?
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: A lot of, you know, the Brewers have had a
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: week now to drink the Kool-Aid, to feel good about themselves.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: They go anywhere in Milwaukee. They go to dinner. It's
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: a small town up there. Oh my God, World Series,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: this and that. So that experience now, playing in the
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: playoffs for a few years. Like let's see these young
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: guys when they get in that big situation, if they
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: try to hit the five run Homer, or are they
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: just trying to move the time? I know Yanni Diaz
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: for the race. We'll just keep moving the line. Right.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: That's a great point.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: He's a big X factor for me. And then I
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: think you rebate for the brewers. Like he is, he
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: is Pat Murphy's guy. He's his go-to guy. He he's
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: got a lot of rest now. So they're that bullpen's
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: fully recharged and reloaded. So he's going to be a
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: huge X factor for them.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Man. I love that.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: I love that.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Those picks a Kevin cash said as Yandy Diaz goes,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: so does our offense. So, um, I think my X
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: factor is probably, you know, I talked about the two
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: catchers who I think are really important. Uh, I think
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Chandler Simpson is a, is a guy that doesn't get
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: the kind of attention because he plays a different game. Um,
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: You know, and he just causes havoc. He makes other
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: guys better when he's on the bases, when he's putting
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: the ball in play, button hitting– hidden run or not
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: hitting runs as much but like you know the chaos
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: that he creates uh on the bases and just slapping
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: the ball and beating them out and then your pitcher
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: has to be quick to the plate um that guy
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: can cause havoc and make some other some pitcher try
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: to be quick and hang one to somebody who's going
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: to hit a homer so Um, I think Chandler Simpson is,
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: is a big key to this along with Liam Hicks,
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: as I talked about. And then, you know, as you
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: said with the Rays, I think Wilson Contreras, the offense
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: goes through him. Um, and, and Bryce Terang, those two
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: guys for me are a real key factors at the top.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: I know the bullpens are going to be important. Uh,
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: I think if I was going to pick somebody, Aaron Ashby,
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: it is going to be a key factor, but, uh,
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: I just love when Wilson Contreras is locked in. It's
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: like the guy just has a knack for the moment
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: and getting big hits. And him and Bryce Turing. I
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: don't think Bryce Turing has shown what he can do yet.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: And watching him play a lot. I think he's a
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: freaking superstar. And I'd love to see him go off.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: You know, there's so many guys that we can name
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: that are key factors. But I think those are the
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: ones that come to mind. Yeah. I love that.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: I do for... The sake of him and how good
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: of a player he has been throughout his entire career.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: I hope Christian Jelic comes up in a big spot
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: and delivers. He deserves it. He is the face of
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: that franchise. He's been there, what, I think this is
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: his ninth season.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Just overall, great dude. Easy to root for. Ross, we
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: didn't talk about this much, but Pat Murphy and Kevin Cash.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Just amazing. two frontline dudes right i remember when i
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: was with the yankees when we were rolling one year
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: and i saw cash uh down there at the trop
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: because you always have to walk by their clubhouse and
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: i just talked to him for a second hey cash
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: what's up man hey riz how you doing he's a
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: man you guys are fucking playing really good baseball right
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: now like it's fun to watch like just that that
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: the fact that we just went in there probably beat
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: them two out of three and like Just a human-to-human, like, bro,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: you guys are really good right now. It's fun to watch.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: I cherish that conversation with him because you don't really
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: get that from opposing managers. You know what I mean?
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Just good dudes. And same with Pat Murphy, man. Just
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: good dudes. And it's so easy to go against your manager.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: It's so easy to bash the manager and always the decisions.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: It's so easy for that, right? It's Monday morning quarterbacks.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: But these guys are just so good at what they're
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: doing and leading these guys. It's fun to watch.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're true leader men. And I think, you know,
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: if you're talking about advantages for the managerial experience, it's
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: just like everything else. They're so evenly matched, both these teams.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: I think it's the same with the managers. Like, Pat
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: Murphy's done everything that you could do in baseball, pretty much,
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: except for win a World Series. And I think, you know,
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: watching him, how he interacts and how those guys– back
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: him has been, like you've said, something that stood out
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: to me, just the edge that they carry. And I
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: think that's a direct reflection of how he manages. And
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: then Cash is such a baseball guy. I've known him
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: a really long time, played against him here in college.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: He went to school here at FSU in Tallahassee, played
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: with him in Boston. Like he is a baseball rat
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: and he's been in these moments. He's going to know
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: how to handle them. And those guys seem to rally
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: around you know, when Yandy hit that homer at the end,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: I saw him go up to Cash and say something
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: probably about, I told you this thing was over, and
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: he smiled. So, you know, I think he's got a
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: great relationship, but he also has a standard that he
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: has set there that these guys have fallen into, and
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: he's done a lot of winning in a really small
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: market with not superstars, and he's been on the stage.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: So very evenly matched from the coaching standpoint, too. And
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: the managers and the players, that's why I just think
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: we're in for a really good series of a back-and-forth
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: series is because it's hard to say this team's so
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: much better than the others.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, this is as even as it gets, right?
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: I don't even know what the Vegas odds are, but
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: they've got to be pretty even.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what the polymarket picks are. I'll tell
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: you here. Brewers are 60% to the yes. 100% gets
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: you back 162%. And the Rays are 40% to the yes.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: $ 100 gets you back $ 237. The fact that it's so
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: evenly matched.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Well, that's for game one. That's the game one pick.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: That's for game one, yeah. Game one. Game one pick
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: for me, D. Ross, in third person, is I'm going
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: with the Rays. 40% just seems super low with the
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Rays being 40% to the yes and kind of underdogs.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: I think, like I said, that The factor for me
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: is that layoff. If that layoff is real, I think
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Drew Rasmussen carves them up and they get some big
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: hits and they roll because that offense looked a lot
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: better the more they played.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think the Rays are going
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: to go in there and steal game one. They've only
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: had a couple days off as to where the Brewers
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: have had a week off. I know the Brewers players
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: have stayed locked in. I know their camaraderie is real,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: but you know, world series game one is different, bro.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: It's different nerves. Like when you're standing on that line,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: you know, when the national anthem and whoever's singing it,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: like you're in the world series, right? So there's a
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: lot of emotions. This is what you, every single player
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: has dreamed about their entire life is playing in the
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: world series, right? This is your kid childhood dream. So
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: those emotions start running through you deep. And I wouldn't
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: be surprised if, if, the Brewers come out a little flat, right?
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Like maybe one time around the lineup just to kind
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: of get their groove. And if the Rays jump on
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: them early, I think the Rays steal game one.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: I saw a video yesterday where Sanchez, a backup catcher,
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: went deep in their little sim game and ran and
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: trotted around the bases. So maybe they are locked in.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, they're probably. And that play's going to
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: be loud, you know?
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: It's going to be loud.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: There's not going to be any rain delays.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Weather is not an issue, which is crazy.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: There's something about the warm summer air and a cold
• 26:11
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• 26:13
  Speaker 2: sound a lot like the roar of the waves.
• 26:16
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• 26:18
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• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Whether it's a weeknight game under the lights or a
• 26:22
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• 26:25
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• 26:28
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• 26:32
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• 27:00
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• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Bro, let's get to some news around MLB, right? We're
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: talking about our predictions. How... Can the Milwaukee Brewers win
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: the World Series if they're not honoring these timeless tickets
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: that they sold? How about that? So, for people who
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: aren't familiar, the Brewers in 2014 sold 1,000 timeless tickets
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: for $ 1, 000 each. In 2014, the team wasn't very good.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: And the ticket could be redeemed for the best ticket
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: available at future games. No limitations. So imagine getting this
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: timeless ticket. You're a diehard, right? Well, I'm going to
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: get this timeless ticket. I got to go to 20
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: games a year. They go to the World Series? Are
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: you kidding me? And now they're saying the Brewers have apologized.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: The ticket they gave will not count as their timeless
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: ticket redemption for the World Series. What the fuck?
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: I saw. How do you do that? I saw this
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: a couple of days. I think I'm going to blank.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Is it PFT, the barstool guy? Yeah, and Big Cat. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Or one of those guys. I'm blanking on his name
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: right now. They offer them standing room only. That's brutal, bro.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: And he was like, oh, boy, the Brewers look so good.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: They look like the best team in the World Series.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: But the juju may be off.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Are you kidding me?
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: The juju. Bro, you can't. Come on. And these are
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: the people that paid $ 1, 000 12, 13 years ago. Right?
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: When the team's crap.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: How do you not honor? these, Rossi?
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: First off, ticket prices on the secondary platform, shout out SeatGeek,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: are inflated because these are tickets people already purchased and
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: are winning. If you purchase tickets, like if you're a
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: seasoned ticket holder and you purchase these tickets, good seats,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: you know, in the club level are costing you $ 1, 000
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: a game, $ 1, 500 a game if you get the package.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: So you're telling me the Brewers aren't going to honor
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: this to these diehard fans that bought these tickets? They
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: have made so much money going to the postseason. They're
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: about to host two more World Series games. The owners
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: have made so much money here. How do you not
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: honor this? It's just a beautiful sentiment, too. The Brewers
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: should be, in my opinion... rallying around these timeless tickets.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: They should put them all together and, like, roll out
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: the red carpet for these ticket holders.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: I saw where somebody had said that as well.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: They should be holding the flag game one, you know? Like,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: you know how they get the season ticket holders that
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: are holding the big American flag? Like, it should be
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: the time. You should make them feel so special and loved. And, like,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: I thought this was honestly fake news when I was
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: reading it. Like, there's no way the Brewers aren't honoring this, right?
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Am I crazy?
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: No, no.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: I think they're starting to walk it back, the last
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: thing I read. They have to.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: It's okay to walk it back.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: They have to. They do need to make it special.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: It's so funny, man. Greed gets in the way sometimes
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: for all of us, I guess. But this is such
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: a swing and miss, no pun intended, when you're talking
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: about putting these guys in the nosebleeds or standing room only.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: And they can redeem it for a different game.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: For every game.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Like, come on, bro. We signed up for. Yeah, that's right.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: That wasn't, that's what, that's not what we talked about.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: You know, it's like, that's like you going down to
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: buy a car and it's like, you get down there.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: It's like, wait a minute. What is it? Even the
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: car I wanted. This is, this is brutal. I didn't
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: even ask for this model.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Like probably terrible analogy, but yeah, man, I hope, I
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: hope they get it right. I know that place is
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: going to be rocking, but, It definitely is a swing
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: and miss from the Brewers people.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, still time, though. Still time.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: We've got time.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: To make amends, right?
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Get them out there. Get the people. They should be
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: the ones sitting right behind home plate. You know they're
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: going to wreak havoc. A thousand bucks back in the day.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: That's like those people that get those lifetime benefits. They
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: pay an airline and fly forever for the rest of
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: their life for free. That's what they got. What a
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: good purchase that was.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Maybe you're not front row, but at least second deck.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Good seats. Maybe not the
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: left field foul pole and left fielder. Give them decent seats.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like fans are what drive
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: the game. And you did this promotion in 14. And
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: who knows if the people are there who were part
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: of that promotion anymore. But the promotion happened. The tickets
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: were sold. You have to honor your fan base. Yeah.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: And they got a cool little gold ticket. They got
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: a cool little gold ticket on a plaque. I saw
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: it was like they put it in a nice box,
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: the whole thing. Yeah. And now, thanks for the gift.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: I want the ticket somewhere decent where I can see. Yeah.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: I want to sit on Bernie's slide. When you are
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: factoring that in, when you are factoring that in, that does,
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: the juju is real. So that's. For sure.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: These are the diehards of all diehards.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Now the Brewers are backs against the wall against something
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: that is out of their control, right? Controllables, like we
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: can't control that, but it's definitely a little, you know,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: like the curse back in the day.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: Well, we got some more news. Your name came up
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: in a press conference. Your New York Yankees kind of
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: gave a State of the Union yesterday with Booney being back,
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Cashman signs a new deal, Hal Steinbrenner kind of addressing
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: just what his thoughts are on the season and what
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Brian Cashman has done and did last year and was
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: pretty happy with that. A little bit of a shot,
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: you know, a little shots fired. catching strays from the
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: offense and saying they didn't produce. But what was that like?
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: You know, the fact that they brought up guys like
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: you that have been there talking about a rod CC,
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: different guys, maybe not mentioned personally, but having comments about
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: mixing some things up because, you know, from an outsider's perspective,
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: like it, They did have a good season. It was
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: a good team. They just didn't finish. And the Rays,
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: you know, the Rays beat them in their division and
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: played well. But, you know, kind of some stuff you
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: had talked about came up. What did that feel like?
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: How that hit you? And what are your thoughts on
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: that press conference?
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: I loved it. I mean, look, they didn't win the
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: World Series, right? And as a Yankee fan, the expectation
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: is we're going to win the World Series every single year.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: That's the motto as a Yankees fan. It's, bro, I
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: was watching the interview and it's, people always ask is,
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: is the New York media harder than Chicago? Right. Do
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: you go and watch those interviews? The questions that were
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: being asked were questions. I'm like, I cannot believe they
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: asked that question type stuff. Like these reporters are bulldogs
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: and they're doing their job and it's nothing but respect for,
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: for the porters. But they asked some brutally honest upfront questions,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: which you want to hear. It's just, they ask you, damn, like,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: And I thought Booney did an amazing job at taking
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: all the questions, taking all the heat. He's asked about
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: his legacy, if he doesn't win, and the success he's had,
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: but losing to winning teams. And it's like, look, we
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: haven't won. And until we do, we're going to work
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: tirelessly to do that. And playing there and being a
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: player there, they... they use their resources, right? How said,
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: like we put all of our resources into trying to
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: figure this out. Cashman said the same thing, you know,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: and open-minded trying to get better. And that is a
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: hundred percent true playing there. Right. So as a fan watching, like,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: what do you want them to say?
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: I know all the Yankees fans are angry. They haven't
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: won in some time now. And you know, coming with
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: New York, it's like, unless there's a crucifixion, no one
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: will be happy, which isn't fair. But they said, you know,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: they're going to look into stuff. They're going to try
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: to change it. It's kind of similar to stuff they've
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: said in the past, but again, it's, it's for them
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: to stand up there and answer the questions the way
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: they did and be professional, like kudos. I mean, that's
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: who they are. They're, they're, they're a standup organization and
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: I know they're putting everything in to get better. It's just,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Now the little things of winning, right? Winning is hard.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Cashman said it. Like, let's not lose sight of how
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: hard winning is. And if you're a Yankees fan, this
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: league is as competitive as ever. Buying a championship doesn't
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: exist anymore. You can't just buy championships anymore. Not that.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: That's what I was going to say.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: You know, the teams still have to go out and win, right?
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: The Dodgers still had to go win. And they won
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: by inches last year, right? So... it's so hard to
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: win and Booney has done a good, really good job.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: Have the utmost respect for him. And I even gained
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: more respect for him. Not that that means anything, but
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: the way he answered all those questions yesterday, bro, is
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: he's such a pro.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah. He, he, he's one of the best managers in
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: the game for me. I know he hadn't won a
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: world series, but the way, I mean, that market is different.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: That putting on those pinstripes, as you know, I don't
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: know is different. You know, I, I go back to like,
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: my days in Boston and it's similar there. Like it's a,
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: it's a hard media to ask. I will, after a
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: game one time I was catching and somebody gave up
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: a walk, walk off or a, a go ahead home
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: or late Tampa who was chasing us in 08. And
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: I had a reporter come in and asking me about
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: what the scouting report was, how we were trying to
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: pitch him, what we were trying to do, what happened,
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: like they were going in depth. And it was the
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: first time in my career was early in my career.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: First time in my career where, like, whoa, it's a
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: little different here. These guys are going to ask you
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: real baseball questions, and I'm with you. I watched some
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: of that and watched how Booney kept his patience on
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: some of those really hard questions. It's easy to get
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: frustrated and be accountable over and over again. Look, he
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: loves it there, and he thinks he's got a lot
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: of people in the right place, as he said, and
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: the thing that I love was the honesty of like, yeah,
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: I haven't won the whole thing, and not just for
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: this organization, these fans, but for myself. That's why I
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: came here. That's why you manage. Why I wanted to manage,
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: it's not because you love managing every single day and
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: that grind, although that is part of it, but the
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: goal is to get a group of men together to
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: do something historic, which we've done, which he's done as
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: a player, and to be a manager and take a
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: group of men to the World Series and win it
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: would be the ultimate high to be a part of that.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: I think in our lives, when you get out of baseball,
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: you're chasing that Like those moments that were just so
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: historic and how to be a part of something special.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: And he knows that and said it to the media,
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: to the public. And I thought that was my favorite
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: thing that he talked about because it's not just everybody
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: else's expectations. It's his own. And so I think Brian
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: Cashman's a hall. of fame GM been doing a long
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: time has seen and done it all. And I do
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: like the future moving forward. I know they say that
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: every year, like you said, but yeah, the offense, you know,
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: without judge is not maybe a world series caliber offense, but,
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: when you take Aaron judge out of there, look at
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: like some of the guys that we're seeing produced right
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: now on these two teams that are way more well-rounded than,
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: than the Yankees. You know, they play a little different
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: style of baseball, obviously. Um, but I, I, I loved it.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: I loved all the comments. I love that your name
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: came up in there and like your opinion matters. Um,
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: I was like, Whoa, we're doing our job. Good job.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: Worldwide world prestige worldwide.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: No, but yeah, but the, uh, Yeah, the Yankees, their
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: offense did stall, you know, and that's what fans here,
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: you have to acknowledge the fans here in New York,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: are like, it's the same thing over and over. I
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: know I said the same thing. Like, they keep, it's insanity, right?
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: It's what I said. Because you watch and the offense
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: stalls throughout the year. It's like, in June, they call
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: it the June swoon here. The team starts off hot,
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: gets into a rut. So that's, you know, as a fan,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: it's like, bro, I'm a Dolphins fan. The Dolphins are...
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: This year they fucking are terrible. But in years past,
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: they went 8-8 every year. Every year, 8-8. And now
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: there's 17 games, and they're either going to go 8-9
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: or 9-8.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: And it's frustrating. You know what you said that I
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: also want to make a point? It's like you can't
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: buy championships anymore. And we talk about the Dodgers, but
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: they've developed within their system, Will Smith, these guys that
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: have come up. I know they've went and gotten some guys,
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: but they've also traded for some of those guys. And
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: that that has to do with like developing guys in
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: the minor leagues. And the information puts everybody a lot
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: closer just strictly on what players are trying to get
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: and how they play baseball. And so I I thought
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: back in the day, the big market teams like New
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: York that won so many championships in a row. We're
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: able to go out and buy the best players and
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: make up for player development. You can't really do that anymore.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: You need player development. Player development is the number one thing. Development, development, development.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: And guys in today's game, this isn't just the Yankees,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: this is every organization, get zoomed through the minor leagues now.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: There used to be, I remember with the Red Sox,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: it was.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: You needed a certain number of at-bats in each minor
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: league spot. Even if you got off to a great
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: couple months, they wanted you to get at least 200-300 at-bats.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: Look at Ben Rice. Look at Ben Rice. Ben Rice,
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: obviously a good player, but this year had a breakout season.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: You bring young guys up, let them find their role
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: and where they fit into the team, and then all
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: of a sudden they earn an everyday chance, and They
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: go off. I mean, there's stories like that around the league.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: Not everybody comes up. I think George Lombard Jr. is
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: going to have some ups and downs for a little bit.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: I think he's a great player. I think he's going
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: to be the shortstop there for a really long time.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: I think he's got perfect demeanor for that market, but
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: also he's not going to be Derek Jeter next year.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: He's going to take his lumps. No one will be, right?
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: He's going to take his lumps next year. Spencer Jones
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: next year. If he's on the team, right, playing every day, like,
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: needs to play every day, needs to take his lumps.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: So it's a fine line, though, when you have these
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: massive expectations because there's no time for development in the
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: big leagues when you're trying to win a World Series, Rossi.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: So when you're on a team that doesn't have these
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: crazy expectations, you can go through the two for 28s
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: multiple times a year and go through the growing pains.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: But it's a good problem to be in.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: We need to change the subject, but I don't know
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: that that's, and fair is probably a bad word, but
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: if you want to be a good organization and be
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: able to go out and get the Shohei Otani's and
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: some of these guys that cost, you know, a gazillion dollars,
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: then you need to develop within and you need to
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: have a little bit of patience with the young guys
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: to be able to have them take some lumps and
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: have a bad season. And I thought they were probably
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: even more patient with Anthony Volpe. And now he'll be
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: back probably playing second next year. And, you know, has
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: been through some adversity and come back and hopefully comes
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: out of that. But I think you need to, I
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: need to think you need to, to the fans also
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: need to recognize, like if we want to be good
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: for a really long time, we've got to develop within
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: and we're gonna have to take some patience and hopefully
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: guys like Aaron judge and Cody Bellinger and, and got
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: John Carlos Stanton carry the load for a little bit
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: when these guys struggle a little bit. I know we
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: need to move on.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: Let's get to the braves. Hold on, Rusty, the brave. Sorry.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: The Braves did as an example with Michael Harris. You know,
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: they were patient with him, and now look what he
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: did this year. Last thing with Booney, I love what
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: he said. Like, they went through a lot of adversity
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: this year. Losing Aaron Judge is, you know, you're losing
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: player number one. And that clubhouse, as much noise as
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: playing for the Yankees, it's just every game is a
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: one-game playoff. It was like that in Boston, like you said,
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: and Lester always said. Like, those guys, he's like, these
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: guys came together. There's no finger-pointing. So... As easy as
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: it is for us to sit back and be frustrated
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: as fans, it's a good problem to have winning 93 games.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: It's just.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: No doubt.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: The Yankees can expect everything. Speaking of player development, Rossi,
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go off script here. The A's hire
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: new president of baseball operations, Taylor Smith, 31 years old, running,
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: came from Boston. I believe he started with the Rays.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: Good for him. Good for him and his family. He
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: has a family of 31. I listened to a little
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: bit of that press conference just saying how he needs
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: to be better. Every team is player development, analytics, and
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: then performance. He's like, we want to be better than that.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: I think it's exciting for the A's, especially them moving
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: to Vegas in a couple years. I feel like everything's
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: building to make that team a really good team. So
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: congratulations to Taylor Smith, player development, where we're talking about Rousey.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: And then let's get to Phillies, Rossi. You know, Dave
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: Dombrowski saying Trey Turner needs to be better at shortstop. Like,
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: coming out straight up and saying, you need to be better.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: If you played like you played in 2025, he's going
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: to be our shortstop. If you played like you did
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: in 2026, he's not going to be our shortstop. And
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: it's like, all right. Last year was Bryce. This year
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: is Trey.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Dave's not going to pull any punches. I've
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: been around him a little bit, and he's such a
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: straight shooter. The thing that, the only confusing part to
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: me on this, like, do you not think Trey Turner
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: worked on his defense last offseason and tried to, you know,
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: he was great two years ago, terrible this year. Well,
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: I just mean, he had a terrible year at shortstop.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: You know how many offseasons I worked on my defense?
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: I just mean his routine was probably the same from
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: one season to another because he was great last year.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: This season, terrible. Sometimes you get in fielding slumps. Yeah,
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: and maybe it's something mental. I've watched him and it
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: didn't look clean. What I would say, though, is like, okay,
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: you've got to come into spring training and prove that
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: you're better at shortstop. So if he's not, here's my question,
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: if he's not better at shortstop, Then what? Now we're
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: having him learn an outfield position, maybe center field.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: I think he came up, though, as an outfielder a
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: little bit, didn't he?
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: He's a freak athlete. I don't know that. I don't
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: know that. I think with DC, he did play some
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: outfield before moving short. But also, now are you going
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: to criticize him when he's not a great outfielder? Because
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: he should be working on that the entire season. You
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: should make a decision now. rather than wait till spring training.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: And now you're scrambling if we have a spring training,
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: but now then you're scrambling to figure out, okay, now
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: I'm playing outfield every day and I didn't work on
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: this off season one bit. I don't know. Maybe they
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: had some behind the door, some closed door discussions about,
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: you know, trying to like, Hey, also take some balls
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: in the outfield if this doesn't work out maybe. But
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: all that, that's the only thing I don't like is
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: like the uncertainty of like, okay, I'm putting pressure on
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: myself to have a great spring training and And if
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: I don't, now I've got to go learn a new position,
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: and that's going to affect the whole team, not just himself. But,
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: you know, it's not easy switching positions, as everybody thinks.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: What Dave said, too, is it's not like he's wrong, right? No,
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: he's not wrong. He didn't have a good defensive season
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: at shortstop, right? 21 errors. He had his lowest OPS
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: of his career. So, like... look, guys have bad seasons, right?
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: Trey Turner's track record says, and the person he is,
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: is going to stay, like, probably has a little fire
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: lit under his ass, right? Probably a little chip on
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: his shoulder. So, but it's like the Phillies, right? It
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: seems like every year they're in that same position of, like,
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: we're a dominant team, we're a dominant team. They don't
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: quite win the division. They get in. Red October. They lose.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: Heartbreak lose. So, like, I guess being up in New York,
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: I get a little bit of that Philly radio. Those
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: dudes in Philly, they don't.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: Hold back, man. They do not hold back.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: They do not.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: Bro, Trey Turner is going into his fifth year of
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: an 11-year deal.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah that that's uh but again like you invest in
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: the person you like the player he was right the
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: player you think he's going to be the person is
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: he's not going to give up like you're not getting
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: someone who's just like i'm done you know so they
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: they hired donnie baseball which good for him and the
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: family like Mattingly getting another shot at managing. They fire
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: Kevin Long. Yeah, that's a head-scratcher for me. I always,
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: I saw Kevin Long this year early in Philly when
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: they were struggling, right? Like, this was right before they
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: let go of Rob Thompson. And that was my first
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: time in Philly doing an NBC game. And Schwarber's like, hey,
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: come down to the cage when you're done interviewing. Like,
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: come hang for a second. So I walk through and
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: I'm talking to him and Kevin Long, and I go
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: to Schwerber, I go, hey, Schwerber, do you think you
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: guys are ever going to win another game?
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: And he starts dying. He's like, no, we're fucked. We
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: might go 0-100 for the rest of the season. Like,
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: typical Schwerber, like, no panic, right? And I was talking
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: to Kevin Long, and I was like, bro, I always
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: admired you from afar. I wish I could have got
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: to work with you. Like, he has such a good
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: reputation in the game, and I know firsthand how much
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: he's affected Kyle Schwerber, right? Like, him and Schwerber were
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: together in In D.C., now he's in Philly together. Like,
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: Schroeder loves him. So, surprisingly, they let him go. Just
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: such a good, respected hitting coach in the game. But, again, like,
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: it's like sometimes you need to shake things up. You
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: know what I mean?
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. They have been there five years, you know. And,
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: like you said, he's got a great reputation throughout the
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: league for all those guys. It does feel like a
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: little bit the Phillies– I think they're leaning on their
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: starting pitching, which is going to be great. And a
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: lot of guys on long-term deals that are aging a
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: little bit, it feels like a little bit that storyline
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: that everybody's kind of banging the drum with the Yankees,
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: like running it back.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: Well, this is where player development comes in.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: What's that?
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: This is where player development comes in, where you have
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: these older guys. Now, if you get a couple young
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: guys that come up and hit, like, in our studs,
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Maybe a starter. I know
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: they have Painter, Andrew Painter, who will be– better next.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: Year for sure.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: It's a year of growth. But if you have a young,
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: like if Crawford, right? Call Crawford's son. If he takes
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: another step next year, you need some of these guys
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: to develop to partner with these superstars, which is why
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: player development is such a big deal, right? So I
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: know they have a prospect, Aiden Miller, supposed to come up.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: But again, it's the Phillies. It's a good place to
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: be in. You're competing every single year. But again, yeah.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: Winning the World Series is the ultimate goal.
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: That is, that is.
• 52:07
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  Speaker 2: We've been in the Vibe Room. We've been in the
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: Vibe Room. That's a spot. That's a spot. And with
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• 53:02
  Speaker 2: it's going to be. It's always good. He always ends
• 53:04
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• 53:07
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  Speaker 2: Let's get to a free agent market with Tarek Skubal
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: at the top. Now, I have one team in mind
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: that I've already mentioned that I think where he's going.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: I've already locked him in in Chicago. And we can
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: talk to you about Chicago in a little bit. But
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: he's one of the best starting free agents on the market.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: And what do you think? Where is he going? What
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: do you think, Riz? He's going to get paid.
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: He's going to get paid. He's going to get paid
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: by a big market. And I think... I think it's
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: going to happen fast. It's going to happen before December 1st.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: I think that with all the CBA stuff coming up,
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: there's going to be a couple guys that get off
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: the board quick. Scoogle's one of them, right? And whatever happens,
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: there's a salary cap, there's a floor. If teams get
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: grandfathered in contracts, I think Scoogle probably will go before
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: the lockout happens. Yeah. I mean, obviously, the Cubs are
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: an obvious fit. I think the Red Sox could be
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: a fit. Pairing him with Crochet. That would be nasty.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: The Dodgers are obviously going to be in the mix.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: Padres could be in the mix. Giants could be in
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: the mix. These bigger markets.
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: San Francisco may have some money to spend. They need
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: some pitching. They've got to catch San Francisco, in my opinion,
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, the Dodgers aren't going anywhere. The Diamondbacks are
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: really good. Like, that division is one of the toughest
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: in the National League. And I think, like, they've got
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: to make some moves. The Mets have a ton of money, right?
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: The Phillies can sign them? The Mets can sign them.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: I don't think the Phillies would need them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah,
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: we'll see. Talking about Dave Dombrowski. Yeah, yeah. But I
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: do think he'll go.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: Early.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: I really do.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: To the Cubs. I'm just telling you.
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: Well, the Cubs, what do they need in 2017? Obviously,
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: starting pitching, right? I would love for them to sign
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: back Clay Holmes. I'm a huge fan of Clay Holmes.
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: Me too.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: I would love for Michael King, I've obviously said this
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: a few times, opt out of that deal in San Diego,
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: come pitch in Chicago. But, yeah, I think starting pitching
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: will be on the forefront for them. If they don't
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: sign Scruble, I can see them signing a few two
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: or three guys. But you have guys, Kate Horton's coming back,
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: Justin Steele's coming back, which you can't fully rely on Steele.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: You have to be really careful with Steele coming back,
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: missing a few years. And then Ian Hatt, like what
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: are you doing in left field? And Seah, right? So
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: they have some pieces of this puzzle. It's going to
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: be an off season for them where they're sure they're
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: going to monitor the markets, the trade markets, see what
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: guys are doing. Hopefully they go and make that big splash.
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: I was looking last night. Tyler Malley had did so
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: well with the Braves. If they don't sign him back,
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: he's a free agent. They may piece mill it together
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: or go for the superstar and try to rely on
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: some of the guys they got. I'm with you on
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: the Clay Holmes. They've got to get some bullpen help too.
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know what that looks like, but there's got
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: to be some guys that get on the back end
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: of that and you know, back into that bullpen and
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: get some real dominant guys to help that. Because the
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: offense is going to be great. They're going to lose.
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: You know, I don't know what they're going to do.
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: Carson Kelly's a free agent. Happer, Seah, they've got some
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: holes to fill around there.
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: Carson Kelly would be a great fit in New York.
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: To compliment him and Austin Wells, that lefty righty.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: I like that.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: Great fit. I mean, he'd be a great fit anywhere
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: for any, to compliment any starting catcher and split time.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: Well, I definitely think, you know, I wouldn't be shocked
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: if they traded for some of these, you know, maybe
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: somebody else's catcher and trying to get another veteran to
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: pair with Amaya. I think they still want to get
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: Amaya pretty good looks, but the offense was great last year.
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: One of the best offenses in baseball. And so I
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: think the way they would look at it is like
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: we can, we can Rob Peter to pay Paul type
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: thing and, you know, go all in, get some young
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: guys to play Matt Shaw and, Uh, Ramirez, that's just
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: my take on that. I don't know about, apparently there's
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: a Japanese outfielder, third baseman. That's pretty good. Uh, that
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: might be on, on the list. Um, yeah, but it
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: all comes down to pitching just exact same things they
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: needed at the trade deadline. Uh, they need to, they
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: need to kind of bolster those up. I think Kate
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: Horton would be back in the second half. Justin Steele, hopefully, hopefully.
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: to start the season. And I love the Clay Holmes.
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: I think he's got an option they could pick up.
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: So that'd be, that'd be big.
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: Well, Rossi, let's get to our daily Tim bus ball
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: bag questions of the day. where me and Rossi take
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: all your questions from your comments on YouTube to our socials,
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: or you can email us at rossinrizajuma.com. We usually do
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: three questions. We're going to do four, Rossi, because I
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: am starting the first question off. This is a question
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: from me, user ariz4844, to my question. I'm from New
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: York and Florida. I live in New York. I'm in Florida. Anyways, Rossi,
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: my question is for you. As a manager, You've managed
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: the Chicago Cubs. You've dealt with front offices. You've dealt
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: with ownership. My question is, this is my messed up
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: thinking as a fan, are the Cubs and Yankees extra
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: motivated now seeing their division rivals in the World Series
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: when they're supposed to be the top of the... Because
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: in my opinion, it's like, As a Cubs fan, I'm like,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: all right, good, the Brewers are in it. Now hopefully
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: it lights a fire, even bigger fire, right, for our
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: organization to go out and be that dominant one again.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: That's a good question. I think, you know, the Brewers
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: have kind of held serve on winning the division for
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: a while now and been the Achilles heel. You know,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: bringing over Craig Council and you would think that you're
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: bringing over whatever secret that you feel like is going
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: on is secret, I say, and it may just be,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: you know, whatever. It's just good player development and good
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: people around there and getting buy-in.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: Well, you always say good players make good managers.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: Good players, exactly. So, you know, you would think you
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: bring over the guy that's leading the ship for the
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: people that you can't beat and seem to get over
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: that hump. And then he kind of calls out the
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: front office to start after his first season. He's like, look,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: we're 10 wins behind. the brewers like 10, you know,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: that's a big gap that we have to fill now
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: in the last two years, they've closed that gap a
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: little bit as far as like getting in the post season, um,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: but still getting knocked out by the brewers, uh, two
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: years ago. And then the Padres and not doing the
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: home field advantage, it went in home field advantage. I
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: thought we both talked about that was a big factor
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: in the Padres were the hottest team, uh, in the
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: second half in baseball. So, um, I looked at their
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: season as a successful season and they just, you know,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: the post season is such a wild card of like
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: who's hot and who gets big hits and who pitches best.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: But I definitely think it sticks in their crawl. And
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: if I'm Tom Ricketts, it's definitely bothering me. Like how
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: am I spending this much money and they're spending that
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: much money.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: And that would bother me. Same with the Yankees, right?
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: Like I think in my experience going to, being in
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: the American league East and with the Boston, the Boston,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: New York stuff used to be a big, like back
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: and forth and, and they're, they're vying for the biggest
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: free agents and, uh, he's going to spend some of
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: the most money in baseball. And now it's about, you know,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: everybody's gotten, or especially the Red Sox got very analytical
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: and going out and getting the guy that fits best
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: for them and the pieces. And the Rays seem to
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: be right there at the top, again, being at the
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: bottom of the payrolls. And so I would definitely say like,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: I'm sure Hal Steinbrenner, Like, what do we got to
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: do to get to that level? I don't mind spending
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: the money. They've got the money. I think that's just
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: part of the market. But like, what do we got
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: to do better to and looking into that, which I
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: think a lot of front offices do. Yeah.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: Well, great question from.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: A great question. Great question from you. We longtime with
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: Sir Anthony Rizzo.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: Appreciate that.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: Fan of the program.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: All right. Dwayne Pearson. Hey, Rizzo and Rossi. I'm a
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: Cubs fan living in Wisconsin. We all know the rivalry
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: gets heated between the fan bases and games naturally have
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: more intensity when your division rival is battling for the
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: same title. But does that carry over into the interactions
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: between players as well? Was there extra trash talk or
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: actual bad blood with Milwaukee or was it mostly friendly competition?
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: Both, honestly. There's guys that you play against that just
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: rub you the wrong way. And the more you play
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: against them, the more they rub you the wrong way.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: And the more you don't like them and that style
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: of play. And there was guys on those Brewers teams when,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: when I was playing that I definitely did not like.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: And especially when they were getting better and starting to
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: actually be a real threat. That's when you don't like
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: them even more. But I mean, when, whenever we went
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: up to Milwaukee, it's, you know, it's, this isn't a
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: bash on Brewers fans. It's just, it's more of a, how,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: dedicated Cubs fans are and how massive the Cubs fan
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: outreach is like it's 50 50 there if not 60
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: 40 Cubs fans you know what I mean so those
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: those rivalries like those fan interactions are insane at those
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: games those games are a lot more energy in the
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: ballpark you feel as a player and you feed off
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: of that so it all comes into it right like
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: most of these rivalries right now are fantastic which is amazing.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: We love as players seeing the fans so into it,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: like interacting. It's just good for the game. But as
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: far as the player standpoint, yeah, I mean, there's guys
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: you don't like for sure, but most of those guys
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: I didn't like playing against. Every time I played with
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: them on our same team, it was like, God damn it.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: I hate to say this, but I really like you.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: I like this guy. That's usually how it goes. Our
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: competitive juices just make you not like some of the
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: best players or the, the guys that, you know, kind
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: of are more flamboyant when they hit a home run
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: and stuff against you. It just, it just pisses you off.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: But I thought the only real interactions that guy heated,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: it felt like they hit Wilson Contreras every other game,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: you know, like pitching him in and that just got
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: old quick. And then you're starting to be like, okay, well,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: We've got to hit your guy. In division, there's a
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: little bit more. We're out of division and not playing
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: guys as much. It's a little easier to let a
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: hit-by-pitch go by, but when you continue to play the
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: same group and they continue to hit the same player
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: and how they pitch him, then it just starts something.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: It's always a little bit of Wilson's emotional guy as well.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: That's when it gets really heated. Now it's a little
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: bit less, but A while back, you played in your
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: division a ton. You played more games. Three at home,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: three on the road. When you're competing against somebody more
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: and it's tight, you hate them more, for sure.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: Now that the divisions don't play each other as much,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: I don't think you see as much of that hatred
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: that builds over year in and year out of playing
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: these same teams over and over and over again. For me,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: the Reds, Every first pitch, they'd brush me off the plate. And, like,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: that was their game plan. Move his feet, make him uncomfortable.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: They'd hit me. Sometimes they wouldn't. The Pirates, their whole
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: fucking pitching philosophy was, you have to pitch in, you
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: have to pitch in. Who cares if you hit him?
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: They hit me fucking 40 times. You know what I mean?
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: I hated a Pirate.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think you're spot on with that. The only
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: thing I would say is, like, to the fans' questions, like,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: I was trying to think in my head. Like, who
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: did I hate in Milwaukee? You know, like, who's that guy?
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  Speaker 2: And I couldn't come up with somebody, you know, right
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: off the top of my head. Like, you don't hate
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: Prince Fielder. Like, you didn't hate Brian Braun. Like, you know, like,
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  Speaker 2: it didn't. There's guys over there. It's hard to pinpoint it.
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  Speaker 1: It's just, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean? Like, there's no one
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  Speaker 2: player that I'm like, this guy bothers me.
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  Speaker 1: But.
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  Speaker 2: Um, you definitely hate losing. And, and when you're in
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: those competitions and the, the heat of the battling and,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: you know, a pitcher hits your guy more than once, or,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: you know, they're huffing and puffing out there in the mound. It, it,
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  Speaker 2: it gets the blood boiling really quick.
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  Speaker 1: Good question. Dwayne. Next email is from Chris Northrop. This
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: one's for you, Patna. Rossi, what makes a great manager
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  Speaker 1: and what makes these two world series managers winners?
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: Well, we know the great, the great managers come with
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: great players. Um, The best managers I've been around, I
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: won't talk about myself, only got four years to do it.
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  Speaker 2: So these guys that are in the dugouts now, I
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: have a ton of experience. They've been in multiple moments.
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  Speaker 2: They know how to lead men. They care about the players.
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  Speaker 2: I think the guys that, the managers that treat players
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  Speaker 2: as equals, you know, I equate it a lot to
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: being a dad, right? Like you love your son. You
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: have to kind of guide your son, but you want
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: to interact with your son. road trip for your son
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  Speaker 2: you want to go watch them compete and cheer for
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  Speaker 2: them and hope they do well and when they get
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  Speaker 2: out of line sometimes you just got to have a
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  Speaker 2: conversation with them and I think it's just about growing
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: more than disciplining you know like I watched Aaron Boone
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: again have to answer questions about jazz and the lollipop
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  Speaker 2: you know the lollipop happened but it didn't happen again
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  Speaker 2: we had a conversation and all the meat it is
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: like here's a learning lesson man like Let's try to
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  Speaker 2: stay professional and not have a lollipop in your mouth
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  Speaker 2: during a game. I think that's just common sense. I
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: don't know that Jazz put a lollipop in his mouth,
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  Speaker 2: headed out to the field, and like, oh, this is
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: going to grab some attention. Let me see how many
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  Speaker 2: people I can piss off.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 2: So, like, again, it's just about– Terry Pendleton, a player
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: when I was in Atlanta, somebody hit a home run.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: I don't remember who it was. And kind of, you know,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: a pimp job, we used to call it, whatever you say,
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  Speaker 2: like showboated, watched it for a long time, whatever. And
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: Terry Pendleton, MVP for the Braves, was our hitting coach,
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  Speaker 2: met that guy at the top step and said, we
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: don't do that shit here. And it's like, it's just
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: a standard. Like, I'm not mad at you. We just
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: don't do that here. We're not trying to wake up
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: a sleeping giant. I think that was part of, you know,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: Cashy's message when he told the guy to run the
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: other night. It's just like, let's not wake up anybody
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: that we're fixing to put to bed. And I think managing,
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: it's just about caring about the guys and continue to
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: try to use your experiences, use your knowledge, use your information,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: try to set people up to be successful. And again,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: grow like everybody has to get better constantly. It's not nobody.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: If you're if you're sitting still, you're moving backwards because
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: everybody's trying to get better. But I think these two
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: managers to finish off that point are two of the
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: best baseball men that I've been around and they care about.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: Pat Murphy has such a unique experience coaching in college,
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: being a head coach, Arizona State for a really long
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: time and then getting to come in and be the
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: bench coach in Milwaukee, knowing those guys, investing in them.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: And I know Cashie does the same thing. So there's
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: no surprise these two guys are in this position that
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: the players have put them in.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks, Manager Rossi.
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  Speaker 2: You got it.
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  Speaker 1: I like you way better as my friend, not my manager.
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  Speaker 2: All right. Next email from Chris Blair. This question is
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  Speaker 2: for David Ross. That's me. If you can put back
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: on your manager cap when you– When would you tell
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: a veteran player who has been a star in this
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: league to change something drastic to their play on the field?
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: How long of a leash do they have, and how
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: does that conversation go? Ooh, I'm getting all the heavy
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: hitter ones. Obviously, the vets that have done it for
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  Speaker 2: a long time, they get a long leash. But they
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: don't like struggling, whether it's defensively, offensively, making mistakes on
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: the base path. You try to, I try to, you know,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: stuff like normal mistakes that you feel like you learn from,
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  Speaker 2: even from a veteran player, you just try to address
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: it immediately. If it's something that you, that, you know,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: they didn't know the outs or something, you got to
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: kind of like get on it. Like I took one
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: of the, one of the worst things I've ever done
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: is like taking Kyle Schwab out for not hustling and
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: hobby for not knowing the outs. Like there was a
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: better way to handle that. And I learned that early
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: on in my career and how to get that message across.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: So veteran players that you know are giving it every day.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: You got to have a little bit of like, it's
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: hard to play every day and they're going to make,
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: they're going to make some mental mistakes at times and
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: some things are going to happen. But when they're struggling,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: I think they know it. The hitting coach knows it.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: They're working on it. You know, like I think players
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: feel like, or fans, excuse me, feel like players are
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: just kind of doing the same thing over and over again.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: They don't see the work that's going in from two
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: o'clock all the way up until game time, trying to
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: fix something in their swing or try to find the
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: right approach. So, there's tons of patient with that. I
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: think the main thing is a manager conversations and, and
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: watching emotions can help you give a guy a day
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: off two days off with an off day around it.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: Little things like that. I'm just like, Hey man, I'll
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: give you a breather. Let you get a reset. You
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: can work on everything in the cage without having the pressure.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to pinch hit you. You know, everybody's like, why,
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: why was Rizzo on the bench and you didn't pinch
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: hit him? It's like, cause he stinks.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: You were trading me.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: Hey, we, we could, yeah, we could get in that conversation, but,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: I think for me, it's just about having those conversations
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: with those guys. The veterans get all the leeway possible,
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: and I think the best thing to do is give
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: them a day off. Everybody would say it's a benching
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: and make a big deal of it, but if you
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: communicate to the player and let them know where your
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: head's at and when they'll be back in there, that's
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: the easiest thing to do.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like always, and I'll never manage, but
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: if you can meet the player with where they're at
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  Speaker 1: and understand where they're at, right? Like veterans expect a
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: lot out of themselves, right? Especially guys who have done
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: it year in and year out. So if you can
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: meet them where they're at, like they're, maybe they're underperforming,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: maybe they're in a rut and just have that humanly
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: conversation with them. They've been there, they've done it all right.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: Like Manny Machado was a great example this year, right?
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: Like he was struggling so hard early in the year.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: And you look up at the end of the year,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: he has 30 plus pumps, right? His average was down,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: but like, he grinded his way through the season. Right.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: And like, he's one of those guys that could easily,
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: who knows the dialogue between him and Stammen, right. They
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: played together. So it could be maybe easier or harder
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: to have those conversations with. Sure. Yes. Like Trey Turner, right.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: Like we talked about him earlier, like he had a
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: bad season at shortstop. It is what it is. Like
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: now he's going to go and, and try to be better.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: Like he's a good person.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, bro, you had to release Arrieta.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: You know, you caught his no hitter.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And the worst as a manager. So
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: it's the worst. The conversation was so hard for the manager.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: And I don't envy stuff that you guys go through
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: on a daily basis because. Yeah. It's no one's happy
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: all the time on your team. No one is perfect.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: Booney said it in his press conference. No, you don't
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: have you'd never have the perfect clubhouse. It's impossible.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I agree with that. Great question.
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  Speaker 1: Good one today, Rossi.
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  Speaker 2: What a good show. We got a long one today.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: That was nice. World Series Friday in Milwaukee. David Ross
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: pregame and postgame. Then we're grinding afterwards to bring you
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: guys all of our reactions and thoughts from the World
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: Series to celebrate our game of baseball. The Fall Classic
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: is here. Rizzo and Ross will be with you unfiltered
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: throughout the World Series. Thanks for tuning in. Peace.