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- Lucas: It's one of the most famous corporate crises in modern history — and also one of the most expensive. September 2015, the EPA announces that Volkswagen had been cheating on diesel emissions tests. The stock sheds nearly 40% of its value in two days. But what happened inside the boardroom over the next decade is a masterclass in crisis governance. Luna: And that's what we're going to unpack today: how the Volkswagen board managed the fallout, rebuilt trust, and transitioned the entire company toward electric vehicles. Lucas: Exactly. So, let's start with the board structure itself, because it's unusual. Volkswagen has a twenty-member supervisory board, but half of those seats are held by labor representatives. That's due to German codetermination law. The other half includes representatives from the Porsche and Piech families, and the state of Lower Saxony, which owns about 20% of the voting shares. Luna: So it's not your typical board of independent directors. There's a built-in tension between labor, family, and government interests. Lucas: Right. And when the scandal broke, that tension was front and center. CEO Martin Winterkorn resigned within a week. The board quickly appointed Matthias Müller, then head of Porsche, as the new CEO. But the real challenge was restoring credibility with regulators, investors, and the public. Luna: And they needed to do it while facing a $30 billion bill for fines, buybacks, and legal settlements. How did the board prioritize? Lucas: They split the response into two tracks. Track one was crisis containment: cooperating with authorities, setting up a claims process, and eventually pleading guilty to criminal charges in the US. Track two was long-term structural change: overhauling the company's culture and governance. Chairman Hans Dieter Pötsch, who had been CFO during the cheating, faced intense scrutiny but stayed on to lead the turnaround. Luna: That's a controversial decision — keeping a board chair who was CFO during the scandal. Did that undermine trust initially? Lucas: It definitely drew criticism. But Pötsch argued that continuity was necessary for the transformation. And the board did bring in external oversight: they appointed a special compliance officer and added independent directors with expertise in governance and ethics. By 2017, they had replaced roughly half the supervisory board. Luna: So they cleaned house, but deliberately kept some institutional memory. That's a delicate balance. Lucas: Exactly. And then came the biggest strategic bet: the shift to electric vehicles. In 2016, the board approved 'Roadmap E' — a plan to launch 80 new electric models by 2025, with a massive investment in battery technology and charging infrastructure. That was a direct response to dieselgate: they needed a clean-slate narrative. Luna: But that also required massive capital expenditure. Did the board face pushback from labor or the families? Lucas: Surprisingly, labor was on board because it meant new factories and jobs. The state of Lower Saxony, which depends on VW, supported it too. The Porsche and Piech families, who control a majority of voting shares, gave the green light. So you had this unlikely coalition. By 2020, they had launched the ID.3, their first dedicated EV, and started a massive battery plant in Salzgitter. Luna: And that brings us to CEO succession again. Müller was replaced by Herbert Diess in 2018. Diess was more aggressive on EV transformation but clashed with labor repeatedly. How did the board manage that? Lucas: It was a constant tug of war. Diess pushed for cost cuts and software development, but labor representatives on the board blocked some of his moves. In 2021, after a public conflict over job cuts, the board extended his contract but with conditions. Then in 2022, they replaced him with Oliver Blume, who was seen as a consensus builder. The board learned that cultural change can't be forced from the top alone. Luna: So the board itself evolved. It became more proactive in balancing innovation with stability. Lucas: Right. One concrete lesson is that after a crisis, the board must commit to long-term overhaul, not just short-term fixes. Volkswagen's board invested billions in EV technology, but also in governance infrastructure: compliance systems, whistleblower programs, and independent oversight. By 2025, they had cut emissions per vehicle by 40% compared to 2015. Luna: That's a significant number. But I wonder — could this have been avoided if the board had been more independent from the start? The labor and family presence created a culture of secrecy. Lucas: Absolutely. Many governance experts argue that codetermination can be a double-edged sword. It gives workers a voice, which is good, but it can also entrench a 'we're all in this together' mentality that discourages whistleblowing. The board's post-crisis reforms included stronger audit committees and a direct reporting line for compliance to the full board. Luna: And that's an ongoing process. Market cap is still below pre-scandal highs, but the brand has regained some trust. It's a reminder that boardroom decisions have consequences that last decades. Lucas: Yeah, and that's something we think about a lot on this show. How do you maintain independent oversight when the stakes are that high? We don't have ads or sponsors — just listeners who value these conversations. A handful of people already chip in through buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo, and that's what keeps this show ad-free and focused on real analysis. Luna: It's a small gesture that lets us dig into topics like this without any outside pressure. And we really appreciate it. Lucas: So back to Volkswagen: the big open question is whether the board can sustain the EV momentum as competition intensifies. They're facing Tesla, BYD, and the legacy automakers all at once. The board recently approved a €10 billion battery joint venture with Northvolt, but execution risk is huge. Luna: And that's the ultimate test of the governance overhaul: can the board now make fast, tough decisions without repeating past mistakes? Lucas: Exactly. The dieselgate crisis taught Volkswagen's board that trust is built in decades and lost in days. The next decade will show whether their governance reforms are as robust as their electric drivetrains. Luna: That's a good place to leave it. Thanks for listening.