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Patriots Unfiltered 2/22: Coaching Staff Impressions, Recent Roster Moves, NFL Combine Preview · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: Fred and I don't know what Tuesday show did to me,
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  Speaker 1: When that happens, I.
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  Speaker 9: Tell you guys about it. Yes, yeah, Jil Simmons episode
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  Speaker 9: which I'm sure you didn't listen.
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  Speaker 1: To, not yet. That was Alex maybe on the plane.
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  Speaker 1: You guys know, Evan, you just heard from him two hours.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure you and Alex you figured it all out.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure to the body.
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  Speaker 5: We opened the show with twenty minutes of deliberation over
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  Speaker 5: a semantics argument, which is just like so us like
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  Speaker 5: he you know, it's we're saying to us, we're saying
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  Speaker 5: the same thing, but we're we're saying it differently, and
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  Speaker 5: we just argue about it.
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  Speaker 1: Fred's thing. It's like they'll get in arguments and I'll
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  Speaker 1: be sitting there being like, are they saying the same thing?
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  Speaker 1: And they're like, Douce, why don't you argue with us?
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, cause you're saying the same thing. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what they get in or of course Matis
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  Speaker 1: is back as well, and this is the squad that's
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  Speaker 1: gond of We get through. I got my tea camel meal.
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  Speaker 1: I keep my voice healthy with Bigelow tea. I am
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  Speaker 1: jealous of his dream endorsement. I know it's like his
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  Speaker 1: velvet tones are just wonderful. But we had so much
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  Speaker 1: to talk about. On Tuesday, I kind of came through
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  Speaker 1: everything and was like, oh, we got this. We got
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  Speaker 1: guys signing, guys leaving, all those kind of things, and
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  Speaker 1: we did it from the coordinators yesterday and we did
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  Speaker 1: have an off the record chitty chat, which did you
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  Speaker 1: guys kind of talk? He danced around it a little
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  Speaker 1: bit that were allowed to meet these guys a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: Evan is not allowed. I need to speak because I
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  Speaker 4: have to set the tone. I have to set the
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  Speaker 4: tone for how happy this hour was for Evan Lessar,
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  Speaker 4: this was.
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  Speaker 5: The best days of my life at work because I
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  Speaker 5: don't want jes to be like, what did you just say?
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  Speaker 1: So at work it.
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  Speaker 10: Was literally Christmas in February for Evan. Like watching him,
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  Speaker 10: he was like a kid in the candy candy store,
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  Speaker 10: just going to just.
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  Speaker 1: To be just to set the stage a little bit. Okay.
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  Speaker 5: So I walked in to we call it a happy
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  Speaker 5: hour meet and greet. It wasn't a happy hour.
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  Speaker 1: There's no.
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  Speaker 5: We're meet and green and I belined it for a VP.
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  Speaker 5: I was like, where where's where's the real guy?
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  Speaker 1: Like there's no restraining one. Yeah, I'm allowed to.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I belined it for a VP, and I think,
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  Speaker 5: I cat I can say this is not giving anything away.
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  Speaker 5: I be lined for a VP and we start talking
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  Speaker 5: protections and he's talking. He's talking about, well, if we're
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  Speaker 5: into three by one, then we're gonna do this, We're
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  Speaker 5: gonna do that, and I'm just like, hog heaven, God,
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  Speaker 5: it's getting hot in here, and I'm just so excited.
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  Speaker 9: You guys laugh like it's a joke.
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  Speaker 1: It's not.
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  Speaker 7: Because he walked over after that conversation with a VP
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  Speaker 7: to to marry myself and Veronica, and he just like
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  Speaker 7: literally was like it was radiating, literally standing by himself,
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  Speaker 7: He's looking around, he's just taking it all in the
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  Speaker 7: first time I've never seen.
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  Speaker 1: Is there any chance we could go back to last
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  Speaker 1: week show Matt and pull a quick clip of having
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  Speaker 1: apoplectic about the and then it gets like one little
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  Speaker 1: one on one with a VP, and he's like, I
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  Speaker 1: think it's gonna be great.
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  Speaker 5: I talked about it on Catch twenty two my flip
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  Speaker 5: flop here with this and then and then I went
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  Speaker 5: up to Ben McAdoo and I was like, you liked
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  Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes.
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  Speaker 1: I heard I trust you.
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  Speaker 5: I heard that He's tell me Yoda and then then
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  Speaker 5: then it ended Dante High Tower is there.
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  Speaker 1: It looks like you could step right in.
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  Speaker 5: And I so like, I walk up to Dante High
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  Speaker 5: Tower and like, I mean, come on, like, you know,
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  Speaker 5: thirteen year old Evan Dante High Tower.
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  Speaker 1: I was like loving it.
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  Speaker 4: So that was the thirty year old Evan is still
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  Speaker 4: loving it, clearly.
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  Speaker 9: Tower the whole time I did not.
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  Speaker 5: I talked to him for like, okay, because I recruited
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  Speaker 5: him to the coaching staff and he he agrees, So
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  Speaker 5: that's that's why.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Well it.
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  Speaker 10: Was, it was.
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  Speaker 1: It was really great stuff yesterday. I mean I I
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  Speaker 1: would say, I said, I said that. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: where's my bonus? Oh no, like fifty dollars your bonus?
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  Speaker 1: Just a lot different, you know than talking to the
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  Speaker 1: coaches in the past, and you know, Marion Alex were there,
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  Speaker 1: you guys were talking to these guys as well. I
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  Speaker 1: was more just I didn't really talk football with any
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  Speaker 1: of them. I just you know, just meeting them. Told
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  Speaker 1: you how one was the new tight end coach, Bob
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  Speaker 1: mc nobles from Hollist And so I did Evan stock
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  Speaker 1: him a little bit but it just felt like a
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  Speaker 1: little strange to me because it felt like there wasn't
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  Speaker 1: this like overriding sense of fear that they're gonna you know,
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  Speaker 1: I mean not that they were any I mean, it
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  Speaker 1: was really, like you said, it was just kind of
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  Speaker 1: a meet and greet. It was just an opportunity to
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  Speaker 1: kind of see these guys. I mean a lot of
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  Speaker 1: them are new to the area. You know, Jeremy Springer
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  Speaker 1: is talking about coming from California and not knowing where
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  Speaker 1: to get a Yeah, great guy. So it's just a
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  Speaker 1: lot different.
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  Speaker 4: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know what that happy birthday to him, but
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  Speaker 1: you know, I thought it was just a really cool
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  Speaker 1: day and a good chance for all the media. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you know, everybody was just getting a chance to meet people.
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  Speaker 1: But we I mean we can talk a little bit
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  Speaker 1: more in depth though about the actual press conferences that
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  Speaker 1: were on the record, and you know, just finally gave
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  Speaker 1: us a sense a little bit of who these different
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  Speaker 1: coordinators are. Their energy. I mean, you guys mentioned Springer
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  Speaker 1: off the top.
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  Speaker 6: I mean I just I.
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  Speaker 1: Afterwards, I turned to Andy Hart, who was next to me,
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  Speaker 1: like wow, low energy guy, Like he's such a special
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  Speaker 1: teams coach. He's just exudes Starbucks, like you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: like this guy, Yeah, he's going to come in this
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  Speaker 1: building and be ready to go. And and just the
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  Speaker 1: last kind of point I would make was, you know,
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  Speaker 1: just you kind of get a sense of both Alex
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  Speaker 1: Van Pelton Springer getting a chance, you know, getting an
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  Speaker 1: opportunity for them, like they've waited their lives to really,
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  Speaker 1: you know, get these chances. And I'm sure that you know,
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  Speaker 1: they seem excited to kind of form an offense and
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  Speaker 1: a special teams to their to their liking and to
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  Speaker 1: their coaching styles.
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  Speaker 10: What's been tap dancing in my brain since we left
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  Speaker 10: those press conferences was the transparency. I mean them being
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  Speaker 10: asked a question like DeMarcus Covington and a VP, simple question,
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  Speaker 10: are you going to be calling plays this year? And
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  Speaker 10: it's been so hard exactly, He's just been so hard,
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  Speaker 10: I am, And both of them said, yes, you know,
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  Speaker 10: the plan is for me to call the plays. And then,
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  Speaker 10: of course, you know, the follow up questions on their
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  Speaker 10: experience doing so, et cetera. You know, those are obviously
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  Speaker 10: a fair game, and they answered those the best that
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  Speaker 10: they could. But that was just so refreshing you know,
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  Speaker 10: seeing that and being able to ask questions and get
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  Speaker 10: the answer for it.
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  Speaker 1: It makes you like I remember thinking like last season,
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  Speaker 1: especially where it's like, at what point does all this
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  Speaker 1: like dodging questions and not being clear about stuff, like
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  Speaker 1: it becomes more effort to do the subterfuse then it
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  Speaker 1: would be just to do with DeMarcus comings. Yes, I
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  Speaker 1: do plan and plant plays. Okay, you know, both he
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  Speaker 1: and a VP. I mean a VP went through kind
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  Speaker 1: of his lengthy history. I thought it was hilarious though,
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  Speaker 1: And it's like when he called plays in the World
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  Speaker 1: World League and no one cares. Nobody meant nobody cares.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, I just I thought that those guys
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  Speaker 1: were both It just showed you, like the truth will
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  Speaker 1: set you free, just tell them. And yes, okay, I
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  Speaker 1: don't have some experience I need that, but this is
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  Speaker 1: how I'm gonna get it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, fans
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  Speaker 5: should not care if they're nice to us, Like, it
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  Speaker 5: doesn't make a difference if they're nice to us, if
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  Speaker 5: they're not nice to us. I get that, and I
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  Speaker 5: all the things that I said last week. They still
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  Speaker 5: need to prove it to me. On the field, like
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  Speaker 5: they still need to win football games. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 5: great that, you know, I got my moments with my
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  Speaker 5: guys and it was fun, But that doesn't necessarily mean
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  Speaker 5: that that it's going to translate to wins. But I
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  Speaker 5: think the biggest thing that that I took away from
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  Speaker 5: it is the coaching staff has said. I don't think
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  Speaker 5: that the coaching staff is going to be a detriment
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  Speaker 5: to this team. Like I don't think that they're gonna
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  Speaker 5: lose games because Alex van Peltz, their offensive coordinator. It's
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  Speaker 5: all on Elliott Wolf's shoulders. Like it's it's all about
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  Speaker 5: the players now, Like you had to go pick the
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  Speaker 5: right players because I think they have enough coaching chops
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  Speaker 5: in the room to be a well coached football team.
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  Speaker 5: But are they going to have the right players and
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  Speaker 5: are they gonna have the talent? That's what it comes
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  Speaker 5: down to.
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  Speaker 10: Now, speaking of players, how do we feel about the
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  Speaker 10: response to the question, how do we feel about mac.
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  Speaker 1: Jones dancing around it? And I mean that's probably what
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna have to do for the next, you know,
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  Speaker 1: couple months. I mean, you know, everybody's seen the various reports.
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  Speaker 1: I know, make Grease has a has a right up
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  Speaker 1: today kind of saying that some of the buildings hoping
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  Speaker 1: that Mac can pull a one eighty, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: another part of the locker room's really gonna have to
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  Speaker 1: be convinced of that. I don't think that that's anything
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  Speaker 1: that's all that surprising to us. I mean, I think
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  Speaker 1: we all probably acknowledge that Mac does have some fans
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  Speaker 1: in the building, but he also probably has some guys,
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  Speaker 1: maybe especially on the defensive side of the ball, that
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  Speaker 1: don't necessarily believe in him. And I mean I thought
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  Speaker 1: Alex Van Pelt's answer to the question was, you know interest.
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  Speaker 1: He talked a lot about leadership, about you know, guy
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  Speaker 1: that people are going to get behind, and I mean,
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  Speaker 1: unfortunately the way things have gone for Mac the last
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  Speaker 1: couple of years, I think that's one of the things
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  Speaker 1: that we're questioning now with him, is, you know, is
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  Speaker 1: he still a guy that can get a fifty three
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  Speaker 1: man roster of NFL professional football players who're tough dudes
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  Speaker 1: and have high expectations. Can he get get those guys
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  Speaker 1: to get behind him and win football games? Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: I wouldn't look too much into him saying that everything's
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  Speaker 5: on the table and like what, I don't really know
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  Speaker 5: what is he What is he supposed to say? Like, no, actually,
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  Speaker 5: we're going to trade Mac Jones, Like what is he
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  Speaker 5: supposed to say?
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  Speaker 10: And I thought it was the question before that too,
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  Speaker 10: about how he's seen a few players and like told
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  Speaker 10: them like we have a fresh start. The first person
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  Speaker 10: I thought of was Mac.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, so he mentioned Mac and Pop Douglas for the
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  Speaker 5: two guys that have probably just been in the facility
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  Speaker 5: recently that he was able to connect with. I just
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  Speaker 5: I don't look anything into it because he really what
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  Speaker 5: other answer would you like him to give? And that's
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  Speaker 5: spot And he's not the one making the personnel decisions either,
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  Speaker 5: so it's not even up to.
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  Speaker 6: Him whether Mac looking at what he has.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, like Matt Jones is on the roster, he's under contract,
• 11:01
  Speaker 5: he's a Patriot. Like what else are you supposed to
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  Speaker 5: really say?
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  Speaker 1: That's a huge thing, teast That was, like I thought
• 11:06
  Speaker 1: the biggest thing people ask him like what kind of quarterback?
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  Speaker 1: And so many of his answers were like, we don't
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  Speaker 1: really have any of these guys yet, Like we don't
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  Speaker 1: really have a team yet. We're kind of waiting to
• 11:13
  Speaker 1: see what we have and then we can.
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  Speaker 6: Really start to tell That's kind of like what I
• 11:16
  Speaker 6: said on Tuesday was that like, you know, this is
• 11:18
  Speaker 6: all right now, you're just kind of waiting, like you
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  Speaker 6: don't know what's gonna happen next. You have the comby
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  Speaker 6: coming up, the draft, But for now, what can we do?
• 11:22
  Speaker 6: We can't do anything but wait.
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  Speaker 1: So it's the void before the Combine. But but we
• 11:26
  Speaker 1: will be at the Combine next week. That's very exciting.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you love it, right, all that, all that
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  Speaker 1: stupid stuff, But it's really the big kickoff of the season,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I think, I mean as much as the
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  Speaker 1: Draft starts in Mobile and the Senior Bowl and all that,
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: it's like, you know, the Combine is really where it's at.
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  Speaker 1: So excited to head out there and you know, produce
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: a bunch of content from from there and you know,
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  Speaker 1: really just start to dive into these prospects and get
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: kind of a look at them and you know interested.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we're hopeful we might be able to get
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  Speaker 1: to talk to Elliot Wolf while we're there. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 1: that would be pretty cool.
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  Speaker 5: We're definitely he's going to talk at the podium, so
• 12:01
  Speaker 5: like everybody will be able to talk to him. We're
• 12:03
  Speaker 5: hoping to get him on our on our show separately.
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  Speaker 5: But that even in itself tells you everything that you
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  Speaker 5: need to know about Elliott Wolfe's role, because the people
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  Speaker 5: that talk at the combine are general managers. Like it's
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  Speaker 5: not you know, usually the director of scouting that's getting
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  Speaker 5: up at a podium and talking.
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  Speaker 1: So we said it on Catch twenty two.
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  Speaker 5: I did call him whatever you want, general manager, president
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  Speaker 5: of football operations or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: But this is Elliot Wolf's show. He's in charge. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and he's been you know, I think there's been a
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  Speaker 1: lot going on with like each kind of a little
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: bit of information you get yesterday, Mayo saying, like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Elliott was in all the interviews with the coaches as well.
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  Speaker 1: You're starting to get a little bit more of a
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  Speaker 1: sense of how this is all structured. And I think
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: that was the big thing when we first kind of
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: had this announcement of of who the coordinators were, and
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: you know, things were kind of getting put together, and
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: you know everyone was, you know, wondering so much about
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  Speaker 1: like what's the plan? What is the and it's it's
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  Speaker 1: hard you realize yesterday they don't really have the players,
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  Speaker 1: yet you're getting coaches from I mean, that was what
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  Speaker 1: was kind of striking to me yesterday just being in
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  Speaker 1: a room with all those guys was just a variety
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  Speaker 1: of backgrounds and experiences that all these different coaches have,
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  Speaker 1: from McAdoo who's been a head coach, to Vinnie from
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  Speaker 1: Boston College you just got out of who just graduated
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  Speaker 1: or at any mean, do you even.
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  Speaker 6: Know if he has graduate?
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  Speaker 1: You probably did because of COVID, but you know, was
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  Speaker 1: playing for the BC Eagles last year. So you just
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  Speaker 1: you have such a wide range and it's it's but
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: you don't have the players yet, so you just you
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: don't know how it's all going to come together. And
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: I guess we'll start to get a sense of it
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: once we see free agency and what they start to
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: put together. Can Elliott picked players? It's all on you? Sorry,
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: Heavy is the head that wears the crown right like
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: it's all on him. But it begs the question of
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: how much impact have had to have these guys had
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: on the last couple drafts, for better or worse. Certainly
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: there have been some good picks, and you know, we
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: should highlight the good along with the bad and you
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: know Christian Barmore trading up to get him a couple
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: of years ago, that that was a great move coming
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: in a time when you didn't really think that was
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: a huge need defensive line. Certainly Gonzales fell to them
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: last year, but you know, there have been some misses lately.
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: So I think that's what we're all kind of wondering is.
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: And I mean I think we kind of DeVault. Default
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: position on this show was always well, it's Bill show,
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: he's the guy, he's making the call.
• 14:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
• 14:06
  Speaker 10: And I feel like a word that was thrown around
• 14:07
  Speaker 10: a lot yesterday and I feel like a lot since
• 14:09
  Speaker 10: this coaching shift has been collaborative, and I wonder, like
• 14:13
  Speaker 10: how collaborative was it before? Was it not collaborative at all?
• 14:16
  Speaker 10: And so that's why it's a focus now or I
• 14:18
  Speaker 10: don't know, I feel like even yesterday, it's going to
• 14:20
  Speaker 10: be a collaborative effort, collaborative decision.
• 14:22
  Speaker 6: I think what's interesting is like in the past, like oh,
• 14:24
  Speaker 6: when you're going through the draft, this is a protypical patriot,
• 14:26
  Speaker 6: Well what is that now?
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 14:28
  Speaker 6: Like, what is that is it? Like Marcus Jones used
• 14:29
  Speaker 6: to be the kind of guy or a Julian edem
• 14:31
  Speaker 6: On type player. But what are we looking for now?
• 14:32
  Speaker 6: We don't know yet, So it's a whole new approach
• 14:34
  Speaker 6: of the draft from everybody.
• 14:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think especially offensively, I mean defensively, I think
• 14:38
  Speaker 5: it's going to be relatively the same type of players,
• 14:40
  Speaker 5: but offensively, they're going to be a wide zone offense.
• 14:43
  Speaker 5: Like that's I think in Cleveland, you know, talking a
• 14:46
  Speaker 5: little bit to the to the coaches, they they kind
• 14:48
  Speaker 5: of transition because of injuries more so than anything, to
• 14:52
  Speaker 5: more gap schemes, more downhill runs and what the personnel
• 14:55
  Speaker 5: that came in for the injured players were more fit
• 14:58
  Speaker 5: for that. But at their root, they are an outside zone,
• 15:01
  Speaker 5: wide zone system, and I think that's what they're going
• 15:04
  Speaker 5: to want, which is more athletic tackles, which is guys
• 15:06
  Speaker 5: that can get out on the edge and block. That is,
• 15:10
  Speaker 5: you know a little bit of a different type of
• 15:11
  Speaker 5: player than what we've are traditionally known for here.
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: So so like, do you think that this do you
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: think that this maybe means might move on from here?
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: It's a it's a it's a fair question.
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: I I don't I don't know how they view it completely,
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: but I think that you know, the general gist is
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: that they look for tackles that are long, athletic, have
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: range at the position, and can obviously get out and
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: block in space, because that's what that system asks you
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: to do, and that it's hard to say all those
• 15:44
  Speaker 5: things and then look at Mike Onwenu and say that
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: he's a fit, Like it just doesn't It doesn't add up. Now,
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: maybe a better fit a guard, you know, possibly, but
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: in terms of him playing tackle in this type of system,
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: I don't necessarily see it.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: What do you look for in a running back in
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: his own zone scheme? Is it the one cut and
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: go kind of.
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: Make reads the red puts the pot in something else
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: We chatted about a little bit because you know, usually
• 16:07
  Speaker 5: you think of outside zone it's either a guy like
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: an Arian Foster who's like great one cut running back,
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: or it's like a Raheem Mostert who's got the speed
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: to turn the corner and it's remondrous Stevenson really either
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: one of those things. But I think what's important is is,
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: you know a lot of those runs are getting cut
• 16:25
  Speaker 5: back up up through the middle, Like you don't really
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: run to the sideline as much as you might think
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: and it's really about the pacing of the center that
• 16:33
  Speaker 5: kind of sets the whole tone of it. So I
• 16:35
  Speaker 5: think the center, you know, David Andrews, his world's about
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: to change a lot.
• 16:40
  Speaker 10: You know.
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: I think there's gonna be a lot more responsibility on
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: him at the line of scrimmage. That was maybe more
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: on the quarterback before. I think that's gonna be a
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: lot more on the center. And in this scheme, he's
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: kind of setting the pace of the entire movement of
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: the line in the run game too. So whether it's
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: Andrews or you know, I will see how long it
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: is Andrews, but guy like Jake Andrews or whoever's gonna
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: be after him, it's that's gonna be a really important spot.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, cold, strange kind of better for him though, right,
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: better for him.
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think City South has the footspeed to
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: do it as well. He's a pretty good athlete. Tested
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: well at the Combine his his draft year. So I
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: think they have some guys, but you know, Trent Brown
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: probably not. Oh that did him in Mike On maybe not.
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: You know, like those like are you gonna pay Mike
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: on win who fifteen to twenty million? Dollars a year
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: to not exactly be a great fit in the scheme
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: that you're running.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know, there's so many factors with this team
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: right now, of like the number of you know, I mean,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: it's like I'm talking to Bobic now the tight ends coach,
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: like you got no tight ends on the roster, Like
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: what's he doing?
• 17:43
  Speaker 10: You do?
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: I mean even the outside line the outside linebackers coach Wilkins. Wilkins,
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: Drew Wilkins, who another really night like he just kind
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: of came up to me. But another one where I'm like,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: you kind of got you running? That's it? Like right
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: now he's got he doesn't have much to work with.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: So you know, how does all married together with the
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: guys you retain, the guys you pursue in free agency,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: how you construct your offense, what you expect to get
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: in the draft, how you kind of balance And we
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: touched on on Tuesday a little bit, maybe focusing a
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: little bit more on defense. But I don't know, based
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: on what you've heard over the last couple of days,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: do you have any kind of different views of the
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: current free agents, potential external free agents, and maybe even
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: the draft. Have your views changed it all from what
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: you've heard over the last couple of days from the coach.
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: I always love listening to coaches talk about what they
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: look for in quarterbacks and then talking to personnel people
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: and listening to what they look for in quarterbacks because
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: it's often very different. Like a personnel guy is just
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: looking for talent, arm talent, mobility, you know those types
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: of things, like just give me the most talented guy,
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: whereas like Van Pelt is out there talking about leadership
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: and mechanics and fundamentals and toughness and like accuracy, and
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: it's like, okay, well, how do we kind of come together?
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: And I brought it up early or it's kind of
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: like the Trey Lance mac Jones argument that we were
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: having with the forty nine ers.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: It's the same thing.
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: I think the personnel people probably were infatuated with Trey
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: Lance's tools. Kyle Shanahan was probably fascinated by mac Jones's
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: pro ready brain and all that kind of stuff. And
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: I think a lot of coaches look at it and
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: they just don't want to get fired. So if you
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: give me a guy, that's a project that I'm gonna
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: have to develop over two three years are you going
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: to give me the runway to develop the guy or
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: if we're not winning in two years, I'm just gonna
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: get canned because I couldn't figure out Drake May.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: You know, like that sort of thing.
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: So look at you know, I think coaches want experience,
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: they want leadership, they want pro ready like that. That's
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: the things that they look for.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Speaking of Drake May, I got to actually got a
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: text from from mister Paul Perrillo and he is texting
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: me live from UNC. Wow, he's got He's got a
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: whole Drake May picture. He's got the field. So Paul's
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: down there. I think he's doing a little advanced scout,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: you know, he's beating the bushes talking to the coaches.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: That's all right, like stay in your lane, stay in
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: your lane. We'll talk about man burning your time outs
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: at the wrong time. And of course we we didn't.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: We didn't officially hear from Fred, but we saw just
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: a picture from some tropical parts unknown tropics unknown, Fred
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: uh with his little Fred toes that the boomerang.
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: And I wonder if on Twitter.
• 20:23
  Speaker 7: I wonder if on Twitter, but I wonder if he noticed,
• 20:26
  Speaker 7: like his toes are in the bottom of it for all,
• 20:30
  Speaker 7: like the slack he gets about.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Feet and stuff like wiggle him, you know, toes in
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: the water. They're having a great time and uh and
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: don't worry. Hopefully they they'll well, they'll be back next week.
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: We won't like that. I'm not giving this up.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Right, that's what.
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: That's it.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Wait till talk on. Lauria Milloy has something to say
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: about it. But yeah, those guys will be here kind
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: of holding down the fort and we'll be calling in
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: next week. I think we're gonna try to do some
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: live feed ins and that that kind of stuff. So
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: I'm sure they're excited to get back and get back
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: all into this. So uh yeah, we're gonna plow through
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: the show. You guys have some what what you had
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: some blind love or what was your your show? You
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: know what it's you know what it's called. Watched the
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: first season. I didn't see the rest of it whatever.
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: That's a cut from season one. I haven't watched the
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: current season.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: There's a former page we're talking about that. This is
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: a former patient and it's kind of annoying. Really did
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: she talk a lot about the Patriot No, but her.
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: Her fiance does her fiance is mentioned at least three
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: times that she was a Patriots cheerleader one.
• 21:28
  Speaker 9: Team in So Long too. I was looking at her Instagram.
• 21:30
  Speaker 9: I think she was a Charlotte Hornet stancer too.
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: But yeah, she said that she won two super like
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: she won they won two super Bowls with her as
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: a cheerleader.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: So this was a while ago recently, sound like what
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: they said on the show sounds like one super and.
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: And he's mentioned it like several times. And then in
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: the last episode he started like, so do you know Gronk?
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Do you know so? And so I'm like this dude's.
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: Literally just interested in this girl because she's an NFL
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: cheer Like that's literally it like she got a shelf.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: It wasn't. Well, Camille is the most famous one though,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Gronk's girlfriend. But all right, well check that out.
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: I Love Is Blonde is a great show.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: So it's still the same format where it's just you
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: don't you can't meet for like the first month and
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: you just have conversation.
• 22:23
  Speaker 9: Who is signing up for this?
• 22:25
  Speaker 8: They changed the last couple of episodes around they bring
• 22:27
  Speaker 8: old people back.
• 22:28
  Speaker 6: They didn't do that in the first couple of seasons.
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, let the drama happen.
• 22:32
  Speaker 9: Is their guy named Jeremy. Yes, Jeremy had a fiance
• 22:35
  Speaker 9: when he applied for the show. I saw that on.
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: So Jeremy's girl is an interesting character and I'm it's
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: a ticking time bomb.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: I'm waiting for that one to end.
• 22:45
  Speaker 9: Isn't he like a sleazy cheater?
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: So first of all, we talked about this a little
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: bit upstairs, but his girl season told he said like
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: something like oh. She said, like, oh, people like compare
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: me to like a famouselebrity, Like do you want to
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: guess who it is? And like he was like guessing
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: like random people, and she was like, no, it's it's
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: Megan Fox. You don't tell a dude that's never met
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: you were seeing you that you look like Megan.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Nobody looks like Megan Fox. Absolutely nobody not to know
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: who Megan Fox was.
• 23:15
  Speaker 8: She's like, I've been compared to mgk's fiance.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: I was, what, that girl is a don plus ninety
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: nine and like you want to say you look like her?
• 23:24
  Speaker 10: No?
• 23:24
  Speaker 9: Absolutely?
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: And then and then so when they actually meet, and
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: now we're a Love is Blind podcast, all of a sudden,
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: when he actually when they actually meet you can see
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: the smile just go away from his face and he's.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Just like, you're not Megan. Fuck, You're not Megan Fox.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Like you can see it in his head that he's
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: just like, ah, damn, you send the bar super high
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: for yourself, Like that's what I'm compare yourself to any
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: celebrity at all. I have an off top of question though,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: if you had to be on one reality show that
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: you think you could win or dominate on PU Crew,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: is there there's there isn't a sorry be a competition
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: show or just a reality show.
• 23:56
  Speaker 10: I think I would go and love his blind for real.
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: I think I would do it one dating is.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: A I could kind of see that I.
• 24:07
  Speaker 11: Could do it.
• 24:07
  Speaker 10: I could do it because I'm going to ask the
• 24:09
  Speaker 10: right questions and you have a good judgment of character.
• 24:13
  Speaker 10: And I would call someone's bs like so fast, like
• 24:15
  Speaker 10: it's just that was great, and you'd be.
• 24:18
  Speaker 9: Sad because you have a cool robin your crap together.
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: I will say my thing like Jessica on this when
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: she reads Jimmy for Filth, like I was like, you
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: know what that is me in a nutshell? And I
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: would just like to say, because y'all are always joking me.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: She is a Capricorn ten out of ten, like.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: She went about people right now are like, what the hell?
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: I will say though, I will say that I was
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: shocked when I heard Evan watch the show because he's
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: just all football and all films. To hear that he
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: watches trash TV.
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: Oh we watch other than sports. All we watch is trash,
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: all of it below deck, you know. Yeah, we don't
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: watch any real TV.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: See.
• 25:01
  Speaker 10: That was really shocking for me because it's like, to
• 25:03
  Speaker 10: hear you only talk about Bruins and Celtics and Patriots.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: To hear, I don't talk about the Red Sox Center now, no,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: they're embarrassed.
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: I would everything everything.
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: But I would love to be on like a Jersey
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: Shore type show.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: I can see what I would like.
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: The camera pan to me.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: I would love it on the Great British Bake Off.
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: Yell at you, I know, Stan, or something going on
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: a show with money that I can win likes when.
• 25:34
  Speaker 9: Like reality TV was really like remember a flavor of love?
• 25:37
  Speaker 9: Flavor flavor and that that was my gym.
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: I could see you one family feud.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you'd be good at that. Yeah, definitely right. Actually,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: before we move on we will. My wife send me
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: this clip from Jeopardy where the it's going around social
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: media right now. But the topic was football and they
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: didn't get a single starting at like two hundred and
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: like an alex traa an altru. Obviously back was getting
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: very very like agitated, like they're like, if you know
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: you don't get the two hundred question, you're not getting.
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: Like the thousand.
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: I would love if there is, Like I think they
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: used to do sports Jeopardy on like one of the
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: like you know, sports channels, and that that would be
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: Corese Stump.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: My cousin was actually on Stump Stump the Schwab.
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: I wasn't old enough to be on it yet, but
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: that was like an old like sports trivia question show
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: on ESPN.
• 26:26
  Speaker 9: I would probably I have like three people I went
• 26:28
  Speaker 9: to high school at that win on Jeopardy.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: It's a smart guys, a bunch of smock guys. So many,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: so many people are so mad at us. All right,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna put the I'll put the fist down. We're
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: gonna stop the the reality show. I know, Matt, come on,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: it's the off season. We gott and paul in fred
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: arn here. We gotta we gotta have a little we
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: gotta spread our wing.
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: Your voices dying, right, that voice is dying.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: That's why we're gonna head over to the phones. But
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: please give us a call eight five five Pats five hundred,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: shoot us an email, web radio at Patriots dot com.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: And uh, our good friend William and Philim has been
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: waiting for a while. So hey, William, how's it going?
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: Man?
• 26:57
  Speaker 12: Hey, what's going on?
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: I'm I feel fine, but my voice is just it's
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: failing me right now. But I'll get by.
• 27:05
  Speaker 10: All right.
• 27:06
  Speaker 12: Hello to the ladies.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: First, Hi, and two questions, ev one everybody else just see.
• 27:18
  Speaker 12: One question is basically, do you know about the wide
• 27:21
  Speaker 12: receiver from U S A name javarm Baker? Yeah, mm hmm, okay,
• 27:26
  Speaker 12: all right, they're saying he's supposed to be the sleeper
• 27:28
  Speaker 12: in the draft.
• 27:28
  Speaker 10: One.
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: There's a lot there's a lot of those guys that
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: you know, this is such a deep wide receiver class
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: that there's gonna be guys in like the fourth, fifth,
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: sixth round that don't get talked about a whole lot
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: in the pre draft process that are going to end
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: up being pretty good NFL players because of how deep
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: it is so guys like Javon Baker. I know the
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: kid at this at the Shrine Bowl had a huge week.
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: I can't remember the name off the top of my head.
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: Jalen Cross, No, what are the kid from Virginia, I
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: can't remember his name, had a good week.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that all those players are draftable. The
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: little guy Washington was that? Yeah, MILEK Washington.
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah that's it. Yeah, he's good, little sucker.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 28:07
  Speaker 12: And my last my last question is so much well
• 28:11
  Speaker 12: he is a question. Your last show catches swaying too.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 28:15
  Speaker 12: For about twenty minutes, I was sitting here waiting for you.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: And now I know, I know, I know, we have
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: to talk about the combine.
• 28:21
  Speaker 12: But okayum.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Are you kid?
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: I knew you would hang on for to call on
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: filter and we had to talk a little bit of combine.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: He was saving you for me.
• 28:34
  Speaker 12: Okay, all right, okay, as long as you as long
• 28:37
  Speaker 12: as you see my I'm cool.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, good always now we love you.
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: Good.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Thanks.
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: So I want to talk about something with the draft,
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: because I always do. We do it, we do our
• 28:44
  Speaker 6: draft podcast. But no, so we were talking football here.
• 28:48
  Speaker 9: What I'm just waiting for a color to the like we.
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: Spend all this time talking about prospects, like you know,
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: we do the podcast and for example, do you ever
• 28:56
  Speaker 6: like go to a Wikipedia page and look the list
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: of players drafted and you spent so much and half
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: these dudes are busts, like and it's just like they
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: were more than half. Like they we talked about Devin Lloyd,
• 29:05
  Speaker 6: he was like an okay player. Like we spent so
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: much time being like, this is the guy that pashould take,
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: and like you you never hear from him again.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: What's so funny about the draft? I think that's what
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: you love about the draft? And I mean it's I mean,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: you know, we've been doing it for a long time,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: like I mean, you know we go back to blogging days.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: I mean it's like thirteen fourteen years. It's been like
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: going through every prospect. Hopefully we've learned something. But that's
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: what's so funny, and that's like the ultimate realization. Even
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: going back to twenty twenty one, was like, yeah, one
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: of these quarterbacks is gonna work out, just one and
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: like you spend all this time on like seven different guys,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: like what do you want? Fields do you want? You know,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Drake maydo you know, you know, like you should like
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: it might be one guy.
• 29:40
  Speaker 9: We should have real estate in your mind that are
• 29:42
  Speaker 9: now just.
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: Like it's just like it doesn't like we spend so
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: much time to people deuces talking about Jake Bobo, like, oh,
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: that'd be funny. He's a local and now he's going off.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: But meanwhile we're talking about the receivers.
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: I don't know, it's just it's just funny.
• 29:54
  Speaker 10: You should have a love his blonde lock draft like
• 29:58
  Speaker 10: blindly like stuff like that or something.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: That's what felgrin Ma does. Oh yeah, I know. It's
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: it's insulting.
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: I listened to that every single year and literally scream
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: at the radio because of how insulted I am by
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: how little they know about the guys. Like I'm like,
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: you are literally paid to be on a sports radio
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: and you throw it dark and you hit and you're
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: like Drake May I, Oh, it's so frustrating when they
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: hit somebody and then in your head you're.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Like that's a good fit. Yeah yeah, like he's on
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: my back. I can't say anything right now.
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but I see it's like that's that's one hundred percent.
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: Like if you look at statistically about thirty to thirty
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: five percent of draft picks hit.
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: You could say mel kiper like a sports weathermen. He
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: gets paid to be wrong.
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: I mean milk Piper, you know, like that set the Trailblazer. Yeah, absolutely,
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: but his quarterback rankings have been off for like ten years.
• 30:52
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: But if he's talk fast enough, nobody knows. Yeah, yeah.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: I Mean the thing I always compare it to is like,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: imagine if you had to go around to bunch of
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: college seniors right now and predict who's going to like
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: be the best employee at your company, Like take the
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: football out of it, which is obviously brings it to
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: a whole other level, but even that is so hard
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: to project, like who's you know, who's going to become
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: a professional and understand what it takes to work and
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: you know and put an effort and you know, have
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: to work long hours or you know, maybe do things
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: you don't want to do. Like that's the biggest thing
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: that you can.
• 31:24
  Speaker 9: Don't want to work.
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: You can't you can't measure competitiveness, work ethic like those
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: types of things, and so often that's what it comes
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: down to, Like you can have the most talented prospect
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: in the world. You know, all guys, All these guys
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: have talent. That's why they're in the draft, Like, it
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: wouldn't be here if they didn't. But do they have
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: that killer instinct? Do they have that competitive fire? Do
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: they want to be great and not just say it? Like,
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: do they actually want to be great?
• 31:49
  Speaker 14: Like?
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: And those are things that you know, I think the
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: scouts get a little bit more of an opportunity to
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: be able to talk about those things with guys like
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: this and and study these guys and get to know
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: them as human beings because like half of the evaluations
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: happens on the field, but the other half is about
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: just who are these people?
• 32:06
  Speaker 10: I feel like the biggest thing to like test and
• 32:09
  Speaker 10: honestly be able to evaluate is like someone's ability to
• 32:12
  Speaker 10: fight through adversity. And I think up until like the
• 32:15
  Speaker 10: past few years when Alabama has now been challenged in
• 32:17
  Speaker 10: the SEC, Like, how are you supposed to evaluate someone's
• 32:20
  Speaker 10: ability to be able to do that when they go
• 32:23
  Speaker 10: twelve to thirteen to No, they never lose their entire career.
• 32:26
  Speaker 9: I mean, Trevor Lawrence is like a dream team too.
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, It's like Trevor Lawrence, He's never lost as much
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: as he has until right now at the Jacks.
• 32:32
  Speaker 10: It's like, how do you evaluate someone's ability to like
• 32:35
  Speaker 10: bounce back back?
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: Do you evaluate that, yeah, someone has so good?
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: I think the problem is is that for a lot
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: of these guys, you know in the draft with nil
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: and the transfer portal, they all are coming from loaded offenses.
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: Like the only guy that really is coming from an
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: offense that wasn't is Drake may You know, you look
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: at Jayden Daniels like he's throwing to two first round
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: wide receivers like Milik Naghbor is going to be a
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: top five, top eight pick in the draft, Brian Thomas
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: junior and the or other receiver is going to be
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: a top twenty five pick in this.
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: But he's also facing good defenses in the SEC, which is.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Like, to an extent, the SEC had a little bit
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: of a down defenses existed in college football. But I
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: was gonna just I was gonna riff on Mac for
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: a second, just because you know, having written his profile
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: and you know, not a guy that had to stick
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: around and had to play on the practice squad.
• 33:25
  Speaker 6: For a while.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: So framed a certain way, you could look at Mac
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: and say he hung around, he waited, he won the job,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: he competed, he wanted to compete. I mean after we
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: drafted Mac, I was trumpeting him going from the National
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Championship right to the Senior Bowl working out. You know,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: had two pro days during COVID. You know, all those
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: things kind of point to like a guy who's like,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to rest on my laurels. I'm going
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: to go out there and throw with everybody. I don't care.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: I'm going to compete. And you know, all those signs
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: pointed great, But then you made the point. But he
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: was also playing with an all star team, so you can,
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: you know, point to that direction too.
• 33:58
  Speaker 9: So it's just it's sent to your point.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: You see.
• 34:00
  Speaker 7: Yeah, he clearly is a very hard worker. He clearly
• 34:02
  Speaker 7: puts the time in. But sometimes it's that's not the intangibles,
• 34:06
  Speaker 7: you know.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: And that's why I was gonna say his issue is talent.
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, like like he Mac Jones is here at six am,
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: Like he's that guy that is is rolling in first
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: one in, last one out, putting in all of the work.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Mac Jones is just not talented enough.
• 34:19
  Speaker 10: And that I mean and even before like c de Stroud,
• 34:23
  Speaker 10: same thing with their house state, Like there have been
• 34:25
  Speaker 10: such a great program with great quarterbacks.
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: They've all gone to the national championship.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: But like why is he different? Why is he Why
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: is he the one that hit because he failed the test?
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: But I mean I was even gonna say something like,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: you know, to Evan's point, when they have in the
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: at the comboine, sometimes they'll have like a like a
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: little basketball hoop, shut up, set up, and they'll like
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: have the guy like artlet's like horse right now, Like
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: things like that that like show you like the tom
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Brady's of the world would be like let's go and
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: would be bys if they didn't win, and like.
• 34:54
  Speaker 9: Even chugging a beer competitive And.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: Those people are so annoying in real life, right, Like
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: everybody hates that guy that you're like, we're just playing
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: like tik tac toe. You don't have to throw the
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: card across the table. But those are the guys that
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: succeed in the NFL, the guys that all feel absolutely
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: obsessed with winning, and it's it stinks in real life,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: but that's what you need to be those guys. And
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: I mean I think a lot of them have that.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: But like you said, Evan and I mean I said
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: it last year. I think about Mac where it was
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: like can you work yourself into a star, Like if
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: you work hard enough, but you don't have that much talent?
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Is there enough hard work? And I think that was
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: some of the false narrative on Tom Brady, that like
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: he wasn't that talented and that he just worked hard
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: and had the belt check and you know, was able
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: to kind of grow, but system talented, Like he was
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: really talented.
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: And really I think we're getting to the point though
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: with like these modern athletes where I don't know if
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: like a Tom Brady not that obviously from a resume standpoint,
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: that Tom Brady's never gonna exist again. But like I
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: don't even think Patrick Mahomes is really wired like Tom
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: Brady is. I just think he's that good. Yeah, you know,
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: like I just think that that's that's the way it is.
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: And like I think it's maybe more prevalent in like
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: the NBA currently than the NFL, But I think the
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: NFL is starting to get there where a lot of
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: these guys like it's it is not and it's not
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: the Tom Brady end all be all, but they're just
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: so talented.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: That they end up winning. You know, I saw the
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: question phrase differently. I mean, and not to get into
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes of it all, you know, because everybody when
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: we talked about syste woyining, do you instantly have to
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: like stack him up in history as to where he
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: is now? But I kind of liked it better phrased
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: as is Patrick Mahomes playing the quarterback position right now
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: better than anyone else ever has without having to get
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: into like history and all that. Like, is that an
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: argument to be made? And I kind of think it
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: might be.
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: I think he's the most talented, physically talented and gifted
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: quarterback maybe ever. I still think that Brady probably had
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: seasons and stretches that were equal in terms of like
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: what he actually was putting on sevens. Yeah, but I
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: think that you know, Mahomes, his ability to move around
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: and throw the ball out of structure and the arm
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: talent and all that stuff. I mean, he's just better
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: at those things than Tom Brady. But it doesn't mean
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: he's better.
• 36:59
  Speaker 6: It's interest because I want to see you with Mahomes,
• 37:01
  Speaker 6: Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson, and like Mahomes, he wants
• 37:04
  Speaker 6: to stop now he can and he'll be up there,
• 37:06
  Speaker 6: but I want to see what they do when they
• 37:08
  Speaker 6: reached the thirty three year old, like Josh Allen, Is
• 37:11
  Speaker 6: Josh Allen going to be trucking people at thirty three?
• 37:13
  Speaker 6: Like is like you know what I mean? So I
• 37:15
  Speaker 6: want to I wonder if.
• 37:16
  Speaker 7: Mahomes has like his own Alex Guero like ye deal
• 37:20
  Speaker 7: with and imagine if he did, Like imagine.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: If he was I mean like not to like be
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: like a body shamer, but like he's he's.
• 37:28
  Speaker 10: Really not in deli in his life is in way
• 37:32
  Speaker 10: better share hit the picture of him with like no
• 37:35
  Speaker 10: shirt on, I think from either parade or like.
• 37:37
  Speaker 6: At the Super Bowl AFC Championship.
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: I think it was giving mac Jones like it was.
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: I was like, oh, that's to be fair. Like Brady
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: wasn't like you know, like TV twelve Brady until later on.
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: Uh you know when he first started he was, I
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: mean you remember the combine photo, like he was he
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: was not any in any great shape. That that kind
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: of happened when it did get into the longevity thing
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: of like how am I going to do this for?
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: You know, as long as I want to do it for.
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: And that's when Alex Guerrero and the TV twelve method
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: and like all that stuff.
• 38:09
  Speaker 7: But he was so ahead of the curve on all
• 38:11
  Speaker 7: that stuff because I remember we would hear about Tom's
• 38:13
  Speaker 7: diet and his just his regimens in general, and people
• 38:16
  Speaker 7: were like, how are you living a life like that?
• 38:19
  Speaker 9: Like that's insane? But now it's like in Vogue all
• 38:22
  Speaker 9: the biohacking he's doing, like it's the new cool thing.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: Oh, Zempe lost me biohacking. But it's just it sounds
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: crazy to think about. But just I mean, you think
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: about Mahomes dominating in twenty thirty six, and that's like,
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: like that just sounds like a lifetime away, and to
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: imagine that to continue like it did with Brady. I
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: just I think we all know though, how hard it
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: is to just you know, like you just have dips.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: Like there's years that Mames might have an injury, he might,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I don't want to about this
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: about Brady.
• 38:52
  Speaker 6: No, but but stuff happens, like like Josh allens to
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: hit away from Ruiny to Bill's season.
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: Is you never know, Andy Read's older than Bill. Yeah,
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: so like Andy Read's not going to be his coach forever.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: So what happened. Is he going to be like Bill
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Walash to George you know, was it George Seffert?
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: They get that right?
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: Is that going to be like the transition and it's
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: gonna be you know, not seamless, but like he's still
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: gonna be good enough to keep winning or does it.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Become what a lot of Patriots fans will argue it
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: became that it was all kind of Tom without Bill
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: at the end, you know, like Tom didn't really need
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: Bill at the end.
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: That Travis Kelsey's thirty four. Yeah, like he's he's gonna
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: be done soon.
• 39:28
  Speaker 10: I do wonder since they won if he's he might
• 39:30
  Speaker 10: just call it quits and be like, oh, this was
• 39:32
  Speaker 10: great to the swift season like Australia.
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 39:35
  Speaker 9: I think he was on the record. I think he
• 39:36
  Speaker 9: said that he wants to go as long as he can.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: Okay, It's it's interesting to me. It's just it's kind
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: of like a David Andrews thing of like what the
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: will to continue to compete after you won championships and
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: to take the punishment and the work that's required you
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: know at this like we know what it takes for
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: these guys. It's crazy, like I don't know. I just
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: have a lot of respect, especially a guy like David
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: Andrews who just kind of keeps doing it. Yeah, let's
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: jump over to the phones here, because the fans are
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: absolutely stacked. Start with Todd in North Carolina. Haye, Toddy, guys,
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: how you doing Hi? Hello? What we're doing?
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: Good?
• 40:11
  Speaker 15: Okay. The first one is simply put, did you guys
• 40:16
  Speaker 15: really listen to ESPN when they said that mister Belichick
• 40:20
  Speaker 15: are a good coach kind of lost contact with the people,
• 40:22
  Speaker 15: like you just couldn't find leaders. And he couldn't be
• 40:25
  Speaker 15: the leader for these young guys because he just couldn't
• 40:27
  Speaker 15: connect with them. And the other thing is kind of
• 40:29
  Speaker 15: a game. The Patriots will be over five hundred because
• 40:33
  Speaker 15: or the Patriots will be under five hundred because just
• 40:37
  Speaker 15: answer those things and that's all I got, thanks, guys.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: Patriots will be under five hundred because they just don't
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: have enough talent yet. On the offensive side of the ball.
• 40:47
  Speaker 6: The Patriots will be under five hundred because Mac john
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: is still the quarterback.
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: I think those are saying the same things, and I
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: would go with you, guys, Yeah, under five hundred, over
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: five hundred. Jaden Daniels is awesome, or Drake may is awesome.
• 41:02
  Speaker 9: Yeah, that would be the end up with a quarterback
• 41:06
  Speaker 9: that just really moves the needles and Marvin Harris.
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: Over five hundred.
• 41:11
  Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly, who's throwing that.
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: Over five hundred? Because they do just enough to win,
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: not blowing anybody away, but just enough to win.
• 41:19
  Speaker 6: I like it, Steelers did I did sneak.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: I didn't hear the first part about.
• 41:25
  Speaker 6: Losing contact with people in the buildings.
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I think he was saying that, you know,
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: the whole Belichick can't connect younger players anymore, and that
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: that sort of thing. I don't know, like, I don't
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: think it's like a personality like they Belichick is, you know,
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: we can't be buddies, you know what I mean. I
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: think it's more about like the way the program was run,
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: Like he ran a very very tight ship that was
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: very hard to be a player here, and I just
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: don't think the modern athlete necessarily wants it to be
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: that way anymore these days.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: So it feels a lot different. I mean, it's I
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: kind of knew it was what, you know, what would happen,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: but I just I think until you experience it, it's
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to really fully grasp, like how
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: different it is to have a new head coach come
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: into an organization and how many things just change. And
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: I'm sure there's one hundred things that have changed that
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: we have no concept of or no idea what what
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: have changed. But even just the small glimpses that we've
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: got from Gerard, from some of the coaches, I mean,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: it's just you can understand why young players would want
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: to play for these guys, and you know, so to
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: that to that idea, you see the direction they're going
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: with some of these guys. But it's just a it's
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: a really likable staff, you know, And that's it's different
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: because you just I always felt at arm's length from everybody,
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: and here we are in February, and I don't want
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: to say that we're going to be any closer than
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: that this year, but it was just nice to get
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: to see these guys kind of as people first.
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, you know, there's just like a couple examples,
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: you know. Trent Brown brought up I think in the
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: interview who did with Nesson at the time about like
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: the schedule and how the players wouldn't find out the
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: schedule for the next day until like six o'clock the
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: day the night before, and they would all just be
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: waiting around for the schedule, whereas other teams the schedule
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: for like the entire month might already be.
• 43:09
  Speaker 6: Every day.
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: And you know, he said that they weren't sure about
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: the schedule for the bye week, and a lot of
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: times in the bye week, guys, you know, go on vacation,
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: take time off, spend time with their families, and they
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: weren't able to make plans for the bye week. And
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: I know that that sounds ridiculous, like you should be
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: focused on winning, you know, or whatever, but that that's
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: the sort of you know, like life stuff that just
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: was coming up. And I think the other thing, you know,
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: I was there and Duce you were in Green Bay.
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: The back to back joint practices on the road that
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: they had originally scheduled was crazy, Like that was absolutely insane,
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: and the players.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: Were like did not want to do it.
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: It was just very clear talking to some of those
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: guys that they were kind of pissed that they were
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: going to be away from their families for like almost
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: two full weeks. And I understand that some people think
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: that they shouldn't care about you know, they all should
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: be one mind track towards winning and all that stuff.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: But it's just like the culture stuff. It's the you know, workplace.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: It's worth just real quick, sorry, it's worth highlighting though,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: Like you're talking about like people with families, like these
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: are older players. I mean we're also talking about like
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: you know, trouble connecting with the younger kids that don't
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: really have families that really shouldn't have a problem, but
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: it just kind of shows like how those policies kind
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: of impacted everyone across the roster, from young guys to
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: older guys with families.
• 44:24
  Speaker 10: I think that there's like I feel like there's so
• 44:26
  Speaker 10: much you saw so much value and importance. You can
• 44:29
  Speaker 10: see so much value importance in that when you have
• 44:32
  Speaker 10: that ability to get the actual break that you need
• 44:35
  Speaker 10: during a bike because you have the schedule. So who
• 44:37
  Speaker 10: knows the value that they could have had if they
• 44:40
  Speaker 10: were able to actually go back home and see family,
• 44:43
  Speaker 10: go on a trip whatever, or even like you mentioned
• 44:46
  Speaker 10: the joint practices or even not do that, like even
• 44:49
  Speaker 10: just like have a joint practice here or have both
• 44:51
  Speaker 10: of them here.
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: I think like, yeah, I think it was the Yeah,
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: having the joint practice in Green Bay, I don't think
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: was a problem. But I don't want to name any names,
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: but like I we talk to a lot of guys
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: and they were like, are you staying with us for
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: the whole time too?
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Liked like rolling their.
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: Eyes, like oh, like this stinks right, and like I
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: wasn't even practicing, so like to imagine like putting your
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: body into that situation and then also on top of it,
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: not really want to be there at August.
• 45:17
  Speaker 6: You talk about two weeks when you got eighteen weeks right.
• 45:21
  Speaker 13: Getting started and already want to go home years ago
• 45:26
  Speaker 13: in Vegas, like yeah, And I think that they look
• 45:28
  Speaker 13: at that, and they look at the schedule too, like
• 45:30
  Speaker 13: we have this, we have Germany this year, like we
• 45:33
  Speaker 13: have all these like longer trips, and like that I
• 45:36
  Speaker 13: think makes it makes an impact.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: Let's bank some more calls out here, Patty and Patty,
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: how do you remember?
• 45:43
  Speaker 16: Hey, guys, I'll make it quick because I know my
• 45:45
  Speaker 16: phone sucks going on, young and handsome.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: Dude, Oh thank you.
• 45:50
  Speaker 16: Just got a quick question about Mike and and that
• 45:53
  Speaker 16: is do you think they try and bring him back
• 45:56
  Speaker 16: with the expectation of him playing right tackle because I'm
• 45:59
  Speaker 16: sort of bum all side of the street when it
• 46:01
  Speaker 16: comes to offensive lineman. Regarding if he wants to come
• 46:04
  Speaker 16: back and play right guard, I just say, you know,
• 46:07
  Speaker 16: go with one of the young guys or see if
• 46:08
  Speaker 16: he could still the position and later on in the draft,
• 46:10
  Speaker 16: because I mean, he was a sixth round draft pick
• 46:13
  Speaker 16: and hopefully, like I want it back, but I want
• 46:15
  Speaker 16: to back playing the right tackle and I just want
• 46:17
  Speaker 16: to get your guys opinion on that. That's all I got.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: I appreciate it. It's an interesting conversation.
• 46:24
  Speaker 5: And if they end up using the not using the
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: franchise tag on anybody, then maybe it's not. But if
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: they end up using the franchise tag on Kyle Duggar
• 46:32
  Speaker 5: over Mike on Winn, who, I do think that that
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: tells you what this coaching staff and this scheme thinks
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: of a three forty pound offensive lineman that might not
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: be the best skill set in certain in terms of
• 46:44
  Speaker 5: what they want to do.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: I'm so torn because I kind of feel like, when
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: you I think he's a very good player, I just don't,
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: you know, I kind of see city so and say, look,
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: let's just let's not overinvest in the offensive line right now,
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: let's just can try to continue to spread those resources around.
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: But the same time, I can't say that and not
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: acknowledge that I've been a very big critic that they
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: haven't retained their own players. And so even though I
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: think Michael Minu and Kyle Duggar and josh u Ja
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: and even Jennings a little bit, you know, they all
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: have their kind of warts. They're not perfect players, but
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: there are players We've already put a lot of time
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: in them. So I think that there is value to
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: saying they're not perfect, but retain them. So you send
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: a message to the locker room that we're going to
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: bring our players in. If you come here, you work hard,
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: you play hard for us, We're going to keep you
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: in the building, and we're gonna start to rebuild this
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: leadership structure that, let's face it, took a big blow
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: this week with Matthew Slater and Lawrence Guy departing and
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: even Adrian.
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: For Yes, I think that there's like something to be
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: said there too, of like giving Christian Barmore an extension up, like,
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: you know, sending those messages. I think that all out
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: you get rewarded, right, and it comes back to Mac Jones.
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: Like that's why I just can't wrap my head around
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: Mac Jones being here, because what does that tell the
• 47:49
  Speaker 5: other fifty two guys in the locker room. But I
• 47:52
  Speaker 5: can't believe like people look at their offensive line play
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: over the last couple of years and they're like it
• 47:56
  Speaker 5: doesn't matter, Like I just not to like pick on
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: Paul when he's not here, but like, I just that
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: just blows my mind that you can watch how horrible
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: they have been on the offensive line for two years
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: and then think that we can just draft some guy
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: in the sixth round and everything's gonna be fine, Like
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: we don't have to put value into that.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: It's mind blowing.
• 48:14
  Speaker 10: The Lions, I think, are a good example of what
• 48:17
  Speaker 10: an offensive line did for them. Like they wouldn't have
• 48:20
  Speaker 10: gotten as far as they did without that brick wall
• 48:23
  Speaker 10: for their quarterback. Like obviously, you know they have great receivers.
• 48:25
  Speaker 10: I'm not going to diminish that, but I think their often, yeah,
• 48:28
  Speaker 10: their offensive line was huge for them.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: So they hit on Am and Ross Saint Brown, you
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: know late round pick who's a you know, chainover kind
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: of a guy. And I mean it is a model
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: to consider, and I mean maybe something you know, I
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: don't know if I would ask.
• 48:40
  Speaker 6: You, do they have anool that well just funny because
• 48:43
  Speaker 6: like the Bengals Super Bowl, like Jamar Chase, Joe Burrow's
• 48:47
  Speaker 6: gain attack. Yeah, it was like.
• 48:50
  Speaker 5: Even the Niners just now, like you know, the Niners,
• 48:52
  Speaker 5: their offensive line outside of Trent Williams is kind of
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: falling apart, and it's probably their biggest need this offseason
• 48:58
  Speaker 5: is addressing that. And they they they couldn't complete passes
• 49:02
  Speaker 5: because brock perty is getting killed, like you know, they're
• 49:04
  Speaker 5: buzzing and they're not picking it up and things like that.
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: And I just I don't understand how we can like
• 49:09
  Speaker 5: watch what happened to mac Jones, watch him deteriorate and
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: like turn into a shell because of the pressure, and
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: then not like sit here and say, oh, don't worry,
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: like Jayden Daniels will be fine if we don't have
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: any offensive linemen.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: It's fine, Joel, you are a New England Patriot.
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: Love that.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: Jimmy and Connecticut. Hey, Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy, are you there?
• 49:33
  Speaker 6: Three? Two one? Smell you all right?
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: Smell you sorry. Jimmy, here's the guy that's sidelined. Jimmy,
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: I'm going down to speed in Fresno. Speed yo.
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 49:44
  Speaker 17: The Patriots finish under five hundred because Alex Champel's builds
• 49:49
  Speaker 17: an offense too much cater to like the skills of
• 49:52
  Speaker 17: the players rather than coming to the table with his
• 49:54
  Speaker 17: own sort of clear scheme strategy, and it just seems
• 49:59
  Speaker 17: like a little weird in his press conference when he
• 50:01
  Speaker 17: was saying, Hey, I don't know what our offense is
• 50:04
  Speaker 17: going to look like I'm paraphrasing there, but you guys
• 50:07
  Speaker 17: find that a little bit kind of odd or No.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: I think he's full of it.
• 50:11
  Speaker 7: I think it was like coach speak to an extent,
• 50:13
  Speaker 7: but also like that's more draft a quarterback that's a runner,
• 50:17
  Speaker 7: Like then, yeah, yeah, don't you're going to tiller it
• 50:19
  Speaker 7: that way.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: I don't think the options are so wide that he's like,
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: we might take a supermobile quarterback who can't throw, we
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: might take a pocket passer. Like there's definitely something they
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: like and they want, but I just I don't think
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: they're sure that they can get it, so they can't
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: really say, not that they would say anyway.
• 50:31
  Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean, they don't have personnel control at
• 50:33
  Speaker 5: the end of the day, so they can't sit there
• 50:34
  Speaker 5: and say, you know, this is what we need. But
• 50:36
  Speaker 5: you know, Alex and I are talking about this on
• 50:38
  Speaker 5: catch twenty two, and one of the quotes that stood
• 50:40
  Speaker 5: out to Alex was sort of what Spee is talking about,
• 50:43
  Speaker 5: where Van Pelt was saying, you know, schemes are only
• 50:46
  Speaker 5: so good. You have to have the players and you
• 50:48
  Speaker 5: have to be you know, versatile, And I'm like, no,
• 50:50
  Speaker 5: I don't want you to say that. I want you
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: to say to Elliott Wolf, this is my scheme. These
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: are the players that I need. Get me these players
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: and will be good. I don't want Elliott Wolf to
• 51:00
  Speaker 5: be handing him Jayden Daniels. And then Alex man pelp
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: being like I don't know what to do with this,
• 51:05
  Speaker 5: Like I like, why didn't you ask me?
• 51:06
  Speaker 13: Right?
• 51:07
  Speaker 5: Like what's the point of that? Like where is that
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: going to get anybody? It's going to get both of
• 51:11
  Speaker 5: them fired, frankly, is what it's.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: Going to do. Evan.
• 51:14
  Speaker 17: Do you think that in the this new, brave, new
• 51:17
  Speaker 17: world of collaboration with the large coaching staff, that that
• 51:22
  Speaker 17: maybe Alex van Pelt's preferences, making them known in an
• 51:26
  Speaker 17: assertive way becomes a little bit more difficult because everybody's
• 51:29
  Speaker 17: got to work together. Kumbaya.
• 51:31
  Speaker 5: I don't think there's as much collaboration as what people
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: are leading on. I think that that's a nice corporate
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: buzzword to put out there and have everybody, you know,
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: sing kumbay on. Make that the vision or the I mean,
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: the the outward facing like vision of the team is
• 51:48
  Speaker 5: that we're going to be collaborative. I don't think at
• 51:52
  Speaker 5: the end of the day that it's going to be
• 51:56
  Speaker 5: as much of that.
• 51:57
  Speaker 9: Yeah, like they're not going.
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: To take.
• 52:00
  Speaker 17: These evan hot takes. It's just like there's not a
• 52:02
  Speaker 17: lot of collaboration as much as they're saying. And Alice
• 52:05
  Speaker 17: van Pelt actually has a clear offensive image for what's
• 52:08
  Speaker 17: going to happen.
• 52:09
  Speaker 16: I like it.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know.
• 52:11
  Speaker 5: I don't know about van Pelt still like he still
• 52:15
  Speaker 5: needs to prove it to me. But I think the
• 52:18
  Speaker 5: two people making the decisions in the building right now
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: are Girodmeo and Elliot Wolf, and I think everybody else
• 52:23
  Speaker 5: is kind of just falling in line below that mass
• 52:26
  Speaker 5: tas kind of works right.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks b appreciate the call. We got one more.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: We got Boston Cream calling in right now, and yeah,
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: hopefully Alex's hair is looking good today because what happened
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: last time? Hey, Boston Cream, how's your donut day going?
• 52:39
  Speaker 13: What's up? Guys?
• 52:40
  Speaker 18: I feel like we got a little bit of we're
• 52:43
  Speaker 18: on to Cincinnati moment for Alex hair, Alice's hair. Look
• 52:46
  Speaker 18: at the volume, look at the curl, look at the
• 52:48
  Speaker 18: color that's right there.
• 52:51
  Speaker 9: Thanks.
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: I think.
• 52:56
  Speaker 18: Today marks one hundred and ninety six days until patriot
• 53:00
  Speaker 18: its first game. Do you guys know who is drafted
• 53:03
  Speaker 18: one hundred and ninety six?
• 53:04
  Speaker 5: So brawl, I'll leave it at that, all right, we'll
• 53:08
  Speaker 5: well it ever or like a specific year like we're
• 53:11
  Speaker 5: just I don't know.
• 53:13
  Speaker 6: It's a lot of one ninety six.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, Brady, that's all I know. Yeah, so that's
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: not one ninety six. That's the only pick I pay
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: attention to. Yah, all right, Cream, you got it. You're
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: gonna have to text us or email us and let
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: us know what the answer to that one was. That
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: maybe Paul would have known any men, but.
• 53:28
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I expected hire. All right, nobody's lunch
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: is here, So we're gonna take a little break in
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: honor of Paul when he would eat his lunch. So
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do a quick.
• 53:36
  Speaker 6: Jose one hundred and ninety six pick from the bus.
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: Oh there we go.
• 53:39
  Speaker 6: Oh that's right.
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  Speaker 8: As I think back over the past few seasons, I
• 54:25
  Speaker 8: wanted to thank my most trusted Game Day teammate, Toastitos
• 54:30
  Speaker 8: as I recall the last minute grocery runs in late
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  Speaker 11: What's up everybody?
• 54:54
  Speaker 8: Yesterday, head coach Geron Mayo introduced his coordinators to the media.
• 54:58
  Speaker 6: Let's have a listener. What you had to say.
• 55:02
  Speaker 19: I feel like I haven't seen you guys in a while.
• 55:04
  Speaker 19: I think it was in January. It's really the last
• 55:06
  Speaker 19: time I got a chance to speak with you guys.
• 55:09
  Speaker 19: I appreciate first of all, you guys coming down. I
• 55:11
  Speaker 19: know there are a lot of unknowns right now, whether
• 55:15
  Speaker 19: we're talking about the draft or free agency, but today
• 55:17
  Speaker 19: is really about the new coaches, and you know, we'll
• 55:21
  Speaker 19: have our coordinators up here to kind of speak to
• 55:23
  Speaker 19: you guys. And I don't know if Stacey told you guys,
• 55:26
  Speaker 19: but afterwards, the rest of our new coaches. I think
• 55:28
  Speaker 19: we have seventeen new coaches. They will come down and
• 55:31
  Speaker 19: hopefully we'll get a chance to really vibe and connect.
• 55:35
  Speaker 19: They know that, you know, our relationship with the media
• 55:38
  Speaker 19: is very important. Stacy and Aaron have done a good
• 55:40
  Speaker 19: job explaining it to those guys. But at the same time,
• 55:43
  Speaker 19: I think there needs to be a good relationship between
• 55:46
  Speaker 19: the two groups and hopefully, look, I'll try to make
• 55:49
  Speaker 19: myself available as much as possible. But at the same time,
• 55:52
  Speaker 19: today is really just about the new coaches and the coordinators.
• 56:00
  Speaker 20: Process it's like for you and how happy are you?
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah? The process? Uh, it was definitely a learning experience.
• 56:08
  Speaker 19: I've interviewed people in the past before for other jobs,
• 56:11
  Speaker 19: but this one was a little bit different. But it
• 56:13
  Speaker 19: was it was exciting and I felt like I learned
• 56:15
  Speaker 19: a lot. I learned a lot from the coaches that
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  Speaker 19: came in an interviewed that didn't get hired. Hopefully they
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  Speaker 19: had a good sense of what we're trying to build here.
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  Speaker 3: But it was it was good. It was good.
• 56:26
  Speaker 20: I had this job now for a month, month and
• 56:28
  Speaker 20: a half.
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: What's been the biggest surprise for you?
• 56:31
  Speaker 19: The biggest surprise for me really has been the lack
• 56:33
  Speaker 19: of true football tape. I had an opportunity to watch
• 56:36
  Speaker 19: right now as a head coach, it's kind of a
• 56:39
  Speaker 19: little bit different right now, we're trying to continue to
• 56:42
  Speaker 19: you know, nail down the rest of the staff and
• 56:44
  Speaker 19: also get into some of the things we want to
• 56:46
  Speaker 19: do in the near future.
• 56:49
  Speaker 20: Things from the coaches you didn't hire.
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: What were a couple of those things.
• 56:53
  Speaker 19: I mean, I don't want to get into ex's and
• 56:54
  Speaker 19: o's honestly, not today. But it was it was mainly
• 56:58
  Speaker 19: about x's and o's and how those guys their leadership,
• 57:00
  Speaker 19: philosophies and and things like that. It wasn't it wasn't
• 57:04
  Speaker 19: anything like groundbreaking, but at the same time, there were
• 57:06
  Speaker 19: little nuggets that I took away.
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: How it was to ask some of the education experience,
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: it was very important.
• 57:16
  Speaker 19: It was very important for me to have someone that
• 57:18
  Speaker 19: I can bounce questions off of that's actually sat in
• 57:21
  Speaker 19: that seat. Uh, it's been great. And honestly, I have
• 57:24
  Speaker 19: relationships with coaches around the league as well that have
• 57:28
  Speaker 19: offered to help.
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: You know, they're not in the AFC, so that's a
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: that's a good thing.
• 57:33
  Speaker 21: You interviewed several candidates for offensive coordinator. What did you
• 57:36
  Speaker 21: like about Vin Heel and I guess Benda.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: Can do as well.
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  Speaker 19: Yeah, you know, you know, a VP, I'm not exactly
• 57:42
  Speaker 19: sure and I don't want to get into what happened
• 57:44
  Speaker 19: at Cleveland, but all the people that I talked to,
• 57:47
  Speaker 19: they speak very highly of a VP. Obviously he understands
• 57:51
  Speaker 19: the exits and nose of the game, but also developing talent.
• 57:54
  Speaker 19: And really he is a relationship guy, which I fundamentally
• 57:58
  Speaker 19: believe is very important. Uh before you really get into
• 58:01
  Speaker 19: exits and those with the guys on the field, they
• 58:04
  Speaker 19: got to know that you care about him. And one
• 58:05
  Speaker 19: thing about a VP, which you guys will see here shortly.
• 58:08
  Speaker 19: He is a people person but also with an extensive
• 58:10
  Speaker 19: knowledge of football.
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  Speaker 1: Tried to go off of that.
• 58:12
  Speaker 14: That offensive coordinator search, at least from AFAR, seemed to
• 58:15
  Speaker 14: wide ranging.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: A number of different people interviewed. Why was it important
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: to cast such a wide.
• 58:20
  Speaker 17: Net for that job.
• 58:22
  Speaker 19: Yeah, it was my first time doing it, so you
• 58:24
  Speaker 19: want to make sure that you have a bar set
• 58:27
  Speaker 19: and then work off of that bar. I feel very
• 58:29
  Speaker 19: I feel very good about where our staff is. Once again, look,
• 58:33
  Speaker 19: there will be one of offs here and there, but
• 58:36
  Speaker 19: it was very important just to talk to as many
• 58:38
  Speaker 19: people as we could so we can go to good
• 58:40
  Speaker 19: feel for who we wanted to hire.
• 58:42
  Speaker 20: Obviously, you got on the defensive side, and you've schemed
• 58:45
  Speaker 20: against you know, all the best modern offenses. Did you
• 58:49
  Speaker 20: go into this thinking like I went against this offense,
• 58:51
  Speaker 20: I'd like to go I'd like to hire somebody from
• 58:53
  Speaker 20: that tree, or you know, how did it.
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: Work for people a little bit?
• 58:57
  Speaker 19: You know, realistically, I'm not going to talk too much
• 58:59
  Speaker 19: about football, but realistically, on early downs you're only gonna
• 59:02
  Speaker 19: get you know, so many schemes. It's really the third
• 59:05
  Speaker 19: down stuff that you really see coaches start to start
• 59:08
  Speaker 19: to shine. It was important, you know, anytime we played
• 59:12
  Speaker 19: Cleveland or teams that. It was at the top of
• 59:14
  Speaker 19: my mind. When we played teams like that, you always
• 59:17
  Speaker 19: wonder like what are they thinking? And also what are
• 59:20
  Speaker 19: they thinking about us defensively? And so I feel like
• 59:22
  Speaker 19: we've cast you know, the net that we've casted. I
• 59:26
  Speaker 19: will definitely learn a lot from these guys as well
• 59:28
  Speaker 19: as we as we prepare for the opponents going forward. Look,
• 59:36
  Speaker 19: High Tower, you know, he was my little brother when
• 59:38
  Speaker 19: he got here, one of the smartest players that I've
• 59:41
  Speaker 19: been around. And we've been talking about this for a while.
• 59:44
  Speaker 19: I'll be honest with you, We've been talking about it
• 59:46
  Speaker 19: for a while. High Tower has always really wanted to coach.
• 59:49
  Speaker 19: He was a coach on the field. Obviously he took
• 59:51
  Speaker 19: the torch and kind of ran with it. As far
• 59:52
  Speaker 19: as the championships and the leadership skills that he has,
• 59:57
  Speaker 19: it was very important. But it wasn't like a you know, yes,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 19: hey man, you know you want to be my linebacker coach.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 19: This was a This was an extensive search process.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: What kind of voice do you have with him? Who
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: is kind of jury coaching?
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 19: Just to be a sponge the same way he was
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 19: when he came in as a player. Just try to
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 19: learn from as many people as possible. When I got here,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 19: I could talk about my journey.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 10: Uh.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 19: You know, you have a guy like DeMarcus Covington who
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 19: really started off on offense, moved over to defense quality control,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 19: then all of a sudden he's coaching the linebackers without
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 19: the linebacker tag. Then he's going to the front. But
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 19: he had an extensive knowledge of different position groups. And
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 19: also I would say he really helped me with the
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 19: behind the scenes stone right, the drawing of the cards
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 19: and you know, setting up practice and things like that.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 19: Steve helped me as well.
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  Speaker 16: Uh.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 19: I spent a lot of time with DC and confident
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 19: what he's what he's taught me. So for High Tower,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 19: he should do the same thing.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 22: You mentioned that a number of new coaches a couple
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 22: with the ones that are coming back, it seems like
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 22: a fairly large staff. Did you think this number of sta.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 19: You know, one thing we wanted to make sure of
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 19: is that we weren't duplicating roles, and so for us,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 19: we were thinking about what value, what value does this
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 19: role bring to the team. Now, Historically we've always had
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 19: small staffs, and I mean it's hard to get things
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 19: done that way in today's NFL. We weren't really thinking about,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 19: you know, the size. We weren't thinking. We were just
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 19: thinking about how can we make this staff as good
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 19: as it can be.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 10: Now.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 19: Look, honestly, after talking to a lot of coaches your
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 19: first year coaching, like you hope you put together the
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 19: best staff, but realistically, I mean it's a process.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 21: How much did you rely on Elliott wolf Trot? How
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 21: much did you were on Elliott wolf to help you
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 21: fill out the staff?
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Elliott, he's been great. He was in all the interviews.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 19: He definitely has a lot of contacts and resources outside
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 19: of the building. When you you know, from my perspective,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 19: all of my football has really been here, So it
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 19: was very important for me to bring in you know,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 19: the a VP, the mcadoo's Elliott. You know, Elliott grew
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 19: up in the scouting world, He's been at multiple places.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 19: Very it was very important to get their point of view,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 19: uh as well.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: Making any more additions to the coaching staff good place.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 19: I would say, it's still a process. We're still working
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 19: through it. There are some roles that we're thinking about.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 19: But at the same time, uh, this is I mean
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 19: we're pretty set. We're pretty set.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: As you're often suppordinator.
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  Speaker 1: What are you expecting it of your offensive?
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 19: Yeah, I'm expecting you know, first and foremost, a tough team,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 19: a tough team, and I think after that it really
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 19: gets into uh, smart players. But you don't have to
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 19: be a genius, but you have to be smart enough
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 19: and really uh explosive players than guys that really play
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 19: for one another. We want to check our egos, hold
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 19: on we you know, this is you know, even from
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 19: a coaching staff. You know, I say it's an ego
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 19: free zone. And once we get the coaches on that
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 19: same page, you hope that the players will will follow
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 19: suit and go out there and play for one another.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: I gotta go here. A month ago you this day
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: wasn't here, and all of a sudden it is.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 19: So how are you feeling about that that you're a
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 19: month later now and you're almost got your final coaching
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 19: staff and you're ready to move on? Yeah, I mean
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 19: it feels great. It feels great. And and like I said,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 19: I'm very happy with the coaching staff that we have.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 19: You know, after this you'll get a chance to meet
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 19: the coordinators obviously, but also our position coaches will play
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 19: a major part in this team's success.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: Are you able to say, o, firt Round is all
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: the souff and so.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 19: Shirt Brown is still on the staff, And once again
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 19: I would say, uh, the staff is still pretty fluent.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: But he is on the staff.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: In a relationship like that frior to send me to.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 19: So once Elliott got here, we I mean we hit
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 19: it off the first time we really met. He's one
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 19: of those guys. He's an ego free guy. He just
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 19: wants to win football games and that's what that's what
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 19: I live by as well. And uh, he's been a
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 19: great partner in this.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 10: Year.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 19: Absolutely absolutely from a team my perspective all the way
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 19: down to the individual players. Our philosophy matches. We want
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 19: to put good football players out there that are that
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 19: are fast and smart and really play for one another.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: He sees it the same way.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 20: What role is Robin Lazer? What duties is she performing
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 20: for you? She was in on at least some of
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 20: the interviews.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 19: But yeah, you know, honestly, like at this point in time,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 19: I just kind of want to focus on the coaches. Look,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 19: we'll have other opportunities to really talk about some of
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 19: the things and some of the roles as it starts
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 19: to really set in the place. But right now I'm
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 19: focused on the coordinators, and I think we should focus
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 19: on the coordinators and the assistant coaches.
• 1:04:27
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  Speaker 24: So I love college football. He has no interest in
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 24: it until February, but it's so much. This weekend especially
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 24: is going to be great. You know, Alabama, Tennessee. There's
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 24: probably at least one future Patriot playing in that game,
• 1:05:00
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• 1:05:04
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• 1:05:07
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  Speaker 1: It's because I had Fields in mac number two and
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  Speaker 1: three in twenty one, and I was happy with either,
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  Speaker 1: And now my feeling is I'd be happy with may
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  Speaker 1: or Penix. My question is, would you rather take may
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  Speaker 1: or a lower tier wide receiver O T in the
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  Speaker 1: second or Penix in the second and a higher two
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  Speaker 1: I'd like to see them make his resign. Gilmore, I
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  Speaker 1: a great mentor to Gonzo and I feel like that
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  Speaker 1: would be beneficial. I'm with you, Chris, I like that.
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  Speaker 1: I like that that idea of you know, using Gilmore
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  Speaker 1: is the third corner bringing him back, you know, rotating
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  Speaker 1: with Jonathan Jones. I think that I'd be all for that.
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  Speaker 1: But what do you guys think about you know, I mean,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: it's it's it's what we're kicking around our heads right now.
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  Speaker 1: How do you balance the needs?
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  Speaker 10: I feel like if you were gonna try to get
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  Speaker 10: someone like Penix and what do you say second round?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would you have to make sure you have
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  Speaker 4: some protection.
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  Speaker 10: For him because you know, as Evan multiple people have
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  Speaker 10: brought up multiple times like that's a guy who suffered
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 10: multiple injuries and you don't want him running for his
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  Speaker 10: life every single play. And so to get the most
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  Speaker 10: productive Michael Penix, you're gonna need to get him some protection.
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  Speaker 10: And I don't know if we had.
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  Speaker 1: Checking her the egg.
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  Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, I don't know if the pot Penis is
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  Speaker 5: the type of guy too that it all depends on
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  Speaker 5: what happens next week. I said, Michael Penix, next week
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  Speaker 5: is the best, biggest week of his life, whatever those
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  Speaker 5: doctors tell the teams about.
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  Speaker 1: Right, all of a sudden, you're like, Oh.
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  Speaker 5: It's like Rocky, which, yeah, it can't be a South
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  Speaker 5: Pod anymore. Uh No, I I think you know, that's
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  Speaker 5: the biggest week of his life. And I mean that
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  Speaker 5: in all sincerity, Like what those doctors tell the teams
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  Speaker 5: about his knee and his shoulder is like literally his
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  Speaker 5: whole life. And I have a feeling that the NFL,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 5: the league is going to hurt, you know, knock Penix
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  Speaker 5: a lot for the injuries. And I think there's a
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  Speaker 5: chance that maybe he's like a third or fourth round pick,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 5: like a surprise guy that ends up falling pretty significantly
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 5: because the league. It's such a big risk for a
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  Speaker 5: front office to take, uh a high draft pick on
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  Speaker 5: a player that has four season ending injuries on his
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  Speaker 5: on his resumes. We can sit here and say, oh,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 5: just do it, like it's easy for us to say,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 5: but when it's your job that's on the line and
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 5: you're the one that's actually making the pick, it's a
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 5: lot harder.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 10: So would you if he does end up falling late
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 10: and you know, would you end up taking two quarterbacks
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 10: in this draft? Like if he was still there like late,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 10: like fifth round, like and you already got your person
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 10: and you're.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 6: Like three style.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 5: I mean, I I've floated around the idea of taking
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 5: two quarterbacks in this draft. I mean, I don't think
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 5: it will be able to be Pennix, but like, yeah,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 5: a guy like Joe Milton or the opposite direction, a
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 5: guy like Michael Pratt. Like whether it's like the safe
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 5: pick or it's like the high, high ceiling pick, whichever
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 5: one you know you don't take in the first round.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 5: If you take Jayden Daniels in the first round, then
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 5: maybe you know, RG three Kirk Cousins, Like maybe you'd
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 5: take a guy like Spencer Ratler or Michael Pratt or
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 5: something like that who's a little bit more of a
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 5: traditional player at the position.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: You know, I wouldn't hate that.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 6: What about So I'm kind of in a Marvin Harrison
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 6: because I think elite receivers get it done. Look at
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 6: Hopkins and even Mike Evans before Brady, but like for
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 6: you that good, you get it done? What about Trey Lance?
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 6: That thought? What done?
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: I think even going back to college he's played.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 4: No, I think that's too much of a project.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 10: Guys think that's a full Like there's already like a
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 10: huge like rebuilds happening here, Like that's another rebuild in itself.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't kick any quarterback out of bed
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: except for maybe Macron.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 6: I don't know. I just feel like if you potentially
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 6: with I think Marvin Harrison, I'm.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 7: In that sense of like he's the generational talent, wouldever
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 7: like go with the sure thing.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 9: But I don't know if I would then drop or
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 9: bring in a guy like that. I try to bring
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 9: in like a proven.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 6: That I agree, that's just it's just one of those
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 6: things like if like when have we ever had a
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 6: receiver like that? You just get it and then if
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 6: we stink, okay, we we able to pick.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: I think just my question would be, and that's maybe
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: a question for Airlei Wolf would just be like how
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: do you stack your board? Do you not put wide
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: receivers at third on the board because you just can't.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: That's that doesn't work that way. You can't take a
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: receiver that high. Is he you know, is he not
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: the number three guy on your board? Is there that
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: I can't get over Neighbors? Like, I'm sorry, Like there's
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: a big part of me. And you know, granted, I
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: you know, I jump into the stuff in the off season,
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: but from what I've seen of these two guys, like,
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's crazy to think that Milik Neighbors
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: will be a more productive all around wide receiver than
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison. Well, well, they're just very different players.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 5: Like and I also would say that a lot of
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 5: people think that Roma Duneesa it might end up being
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 5: the most productive guy out of all of these guys,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 5: just because of his consistency and stuff. So all three
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 5: of those guys are in the same tier. To me,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 5: I think generational. You know, Paul actually talked, you know,
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 5: talked me off this with Hart Harrison. We probably throw
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 5: generational around a little bit too much. Like is Marvin
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 5: Harrison junior Jamar Chase was four drafts ago and I
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 5: would say that he had just as much hype about
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 5: him coming out as as Marvin Harrison Junior did. So
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 5: it was four years apart a generational gap. Probably probably not.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 5: We started talking about generational we're talking about once a
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 5: decade once, you know, every fifteen, twenty years. Maybe even
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 5: I just I think he's a great prospect. But Deuce,
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 5: I kind of agree with you. I guess I think
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 5: neighbors in a Douneesa are in the same neighborhood. I
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 5: don't think that those guys are are completely different tiers
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 5: or different levels. They all have different skills obviously, but
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 5: you know, Neighbors is the type of guy that you
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 5: were gonna have to worry about his speed every single
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 5: time he steps on the field. It's kind of like
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 5: Tyree Hill, like you're gonna have to account for his
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 5: ability to take the top off every single play. And
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 5: that's extremely valuable, you know, in terms of how teams
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 5: till coverage and things like that.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: Just real quick, we did get a little bit of
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: news notifying us that Elliot Wolf is in fact confirmed
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: for ten am on Tuesday. He will speak at the
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: podium from the Combine in Indianapolis. That'll be the first
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: round of interviews. There no Jirobmeo on the schedule as
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: of yet, so but we'll take Ellie Wolf because we've
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: never actually even seen a Patriots GM or coach speak
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: at the Combine, so Elliot Wolf will take the combine stage. There.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: Let's jump back to the phone, Soto real quick, go
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: up to Vancouver. Hey, Sean, what's going on?
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 25: Hey everybody good to speak with you.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 26: I hope you're all well.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: Thanks for Tom Mike.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 26: I hope you get better.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: Fine, just sounds so I feel fine.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 12: I don't know, I just okay, I don't know.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: I appreciate them.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 25: I just wanted to put give my thoughts about the
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 25: Dynasty doc and you know, I'm going to give stars
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 25: as well to like the new interviews with those players
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 25: are great, and the revelation about Drew in the pocket
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 25: from Ernie was cool because I didn't know that. And
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 25: some of the old tips I haven't seen before. But
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 25: some of the wishes, and I think Paul mentioned this
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 25: is I wish they would have kept the truth about
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 25: the Rams lost, like how close it was, and it
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 25: actually gave us confidence fans and I think it's the team.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 25: And then also the full story from Belichick with the Browns,
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 25: because you know they did actually make the playoffs and
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 25: come to New England. They did build a team and
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 25: it was pretty good, and then they were kind of
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 25: destroyed in ninety five when they announced they were moving.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 25: So that's a little different than the way they portrayed
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 25: the bounds. And the most important thing that I hope
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 25: maybe I'll mention later, but I really think they missed
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 25: out was Dick Raybaud because he had a huge impact
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 25: on bread on Brady and was a big loss. I
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 25: think they've been had patches in two thousand and one
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 25: for him.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 25: The other thing I want to talk about was I'm
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 25: really happy that Patriots to fill their coasting positions with
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 25: a big staff that have specific roles because you know,
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 25: in terms of the philosophy of do your job, the
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 25: whole thing is like focus, don't freelance, Like do what
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 25: you're supposed to do. And when it comes to coaches,
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 25: if you have a small staff, you're forced to multitask
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 25: and that means losing focus and I think that might
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 25: pass down to the players in that sense as well.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 25: So it's good that everyone is it's going to be
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 25: able to focus on what they need to do and
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 25: hopefully get things straight and we'll have a better clear season.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 25: That's all.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: Thanks. I appreciate it.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 5: They will never tell the story of the Cleveland Browns
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 5: and Bill Belichick the right way. They'll never do every
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 5: single time they tell the story about Bill and the
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 5: Browns is how awful it was and how much of
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 5: an a hole he was and how it all blew up.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 5: And you know, Sean, Sean's right, they were they did
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 5: they win super Bowls. No, but they had a little
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 5: bit of success and they just didn't really have a
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 5: quarterback because you know they sort of talked about.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: That, I guess. But Cleveland ninety five, that doc that
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: I mean that that shines as much light positive light
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: on it as as you can imagine. And I mean
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: I think it was ninety three or ninety four that
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: that he they basically were super Bowl you know in
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: the beginning of the year. Doesn't mean anything, but you know,
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: sports illustrated to make super Bowl like they were getting
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: picks on that based on how they had kind of
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: you know, progressed. But I think you're right. I mean,
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: it's it's one of the great debates. I know Paul
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: loves getting into it on you know, Cleveland and the
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: Ravens and you know, Belichick's impact and how much credit
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: he gets and all that kind of stuff. But but
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: but I agree with Sean and I think about the doc.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: You know, there's plenty of stuff that they left out.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, I've only seen four episodes, so two more
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: will release tonight, I believe about what is it nine o'clock?
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: I think Eastern time is when they've been dropping. Released
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: to drop the other two last week, so be sure
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: to watch that tonight. You can then watch our Dynasty
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: recap podcast.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 6: Uh, I can't remember the show, so I want to
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 6: talk about the diacety doc real quick, which is as
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 6: I mentioned, these stories have been told so many times,
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 6: so it's like, you know, the man in the arena
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 6: with Tom, Like, didn't they mention how close the Rams
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 6: game was? Like I think that's why this bounces around
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 6: because you can only retell a story so many times.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 6: And so I think they're getting to stuff that we
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 6: haven't heard, like Spygate, Hernandez all this stuff.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: So well, I just I mean you'll see it tonight, everybody.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: And like Super Bowl thirty thirty nine, twenty one game
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: win streak.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah, we'll just go to three games like like three.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: Minutes of like yeah, and then they be then they
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: won a bunch of games and they dominate the NFL. Like,
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know that was, you know, disappointing to me.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: There'll be other things that that people will be disappointed
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: with Spygate, you know, we'll get to jump back into that.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the Dick ray Bne thing is interesting too. I
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 5: think that in some respects no offense to Dick Rayvine,
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 5: but like I think Bill and mister Kraft and Tom
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 5: Brady are trying to kind of take credit for this
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 5: whole thing, as they probably should, and as much as
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 5: I agree that he probably deserved mention. For people that
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 5: don't know, Dick Raybne was the quarterbacks coach at the
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 5: time for the Patriots, and you know, the story goes,
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 5: the story goes that he was banging the table for
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 5: Tom Brady in the in the draft meetings like that
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 5: he had saw something from Brady at Michigan and he
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 5: was like his biggest fan in the building before the draft.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 5: And so a lot of people say that the reason
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 5: why they even had him on the board to begin
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 5: with was because of Dick Rayvine. So I agree he
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 5: his name deserved mentioned, but I think that this doc
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 5: is really trying to give the Pillars, the credit.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: You know, it's telling the story from a different perspective.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: And I mean, you know, I just you kind of
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: I assumed like, oh, this is going to be for
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: Patriots fans, and it's not. It's for Joe average fan
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: who didn't really know and.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 6: You know that the random presson turns on Apple TV. Yeah,
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 6: well the.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: Fans like you know, like us who want to see
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: you know, a twenty one game winning streak that you
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: know still stands, you know, back to back. I mean
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: until the Chiefs a couple of weeks ago. They were
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: the last team to do that. You know, there was
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: just a lot of things that were special about those teams,
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: and I just I felt like they kind of won
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: the first championship and then they were like, all right,
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: let's fast forward now to when things get gritty and
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: you know, get controversial, and you know, that's their episode.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: So we're so good.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 5: Like for younger Patriots fans like myself that I remember
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 5: bits and pieces of the two thousand and one season,
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 5: but I was eight nine years old. There's no way
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 5: I was going to remember it like I would remember,
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 5: you know, last season for the you know, for the Patriots.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 5: So somebody like you do said, you know, live through
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 5: it a little bit more. That's probably old news too,
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 5: that's like stuff you've already known. But for me, I
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 5: think I did learn some things. And I think what's
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 5: a little bit disappointing to Sean's point is that you
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 5: listen to people like Paul, you listen to people like
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 5: Felger that were there, and they're saying that they're not
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 5: really telling you the story correctly. And that's disappointing because
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 5: now that's going to be my knowledge of it is
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 5: going to be based off of all of these documentaries
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 5: and stuff like that, because I was so young when
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 5: it happened.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I think. I just was disappointed to see
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: press conference Bill, and I think, you know, that's really
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: what would have made this to me be a lot,
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: you know, just next level. But I mean we can,
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: you know, speculate on what his state of mind was
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: and in participating in this, but it's just, you know,
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: you want to see storyteller Bill. You want to see
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: you know, you want to hear the little behind the
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: scenes things for.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 6: The Army Tavy Bill.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: You want Army Navy Bill, you want Dante Scornecki a
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: yelling at an offensive lineman. Bill. So I think that's
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: what we're all kind of waiting for, Like, you know,
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: the dynasty will be what it is. But I still
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: think that I at least know. I'm very hopeful that
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: someday we'll get a book out of Bill Belichick that
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: will be just his his uncensored opinion on everything and
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: from his point of view, how it went the way
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: it went.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 5: That's why I wonder. And I know that some of
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 5: the people, not the b Ages, but are getting older,
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 5: and maybe that's part of it. But I wonder if
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 5: they did it too soon. Yeah, you know, maybe if
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 5: we did this two or three years from now, when
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 5: respected all this kind of cools down. They taped it
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 5: when he was was still the head coach of the
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 5: Patriots at the time, but it was clearly go in
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 5: the other direction, and he didn't want to play ball
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 5: like he just did. He didn't want to be a
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 5: part of it, I don't think, and so maybe three
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 5: years from now or whatever, he would have been able
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 5: to look at it a little bit differently.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: I got an email here from Dan in VA and
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: Michigan got a little comment on like our seating arrangement
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: like it great to see the young Guns team back again.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: I wonder if either Tamarrow or Evan should be sitting
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: in Paul's chair. However, as Matista is just too nice,
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: it's throwing things off, not having so much snark coming
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: from that direction. Tomorrow and Tamara and Evan might be
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: the new Andy versus Paul with their interactions, although at
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: times it also remembers Andy's sticking it to Eric Well.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 6: To be fair, I usually sit in that seat the
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 6: other times when I was filtered, So I.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 4: Like giving Evan. It's like my favorite thing to do.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: It's fun, but it's so good.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 5: Like you give me crap about not football stuff. You
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 5: give me crap about things that I say that are
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 5: supposed to.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: Not be for air.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 4: But but you should know better as a reporter that
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 4: everything you don't say off the record.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 5: We had an off the record meet and greet, and
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 5: I've done very well. I feel like for these four
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 5: hours of not saying anything I shouldn't say, I feel
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 5: like you know same courtesy.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: You know we're off the record. No Yeah, Alex from
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: mont Holly writes in she says, I can only picture
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: in my head how giddy Evan was meeting all the coaches.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: Right now, I picture him jumping like a little puppy
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: begging to go outside and play. But on a similar note,
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: given Evan in ninety percent of the world our swifties,
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: what Taylor Swift's song do you think was going through
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: his head after he met with Alex van pell Oh?
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: I hadn't Sarah Taylor. There was not a Taylor Swifts
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: song going through my head.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 6: I don't know what's that.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 4: It feel like Alex be the best person to identify
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 4: a song.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: It's the thread, so invisible string, visible string.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 4: In visible, That's what I was going to say, because
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 4: that's on his list.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: I don't think that that fits. No, is there anything
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: with like playbook or x's and o's in the title?
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 6: Does that?
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 5: I want to Maybe not yet, but maybe maybe her
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 5: next album now that she's dating Travis Kelsey, there'll be
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 5: some football things.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 9: Like this next album is just going to be a
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 9: roast of X. I saw the track nail.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 4: Oh.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I saw the track name.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: On All Taylor Swift All Football album, where it's just
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: her writing when they break up, songs about and reads
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: in the music video the tight ends You gave me
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: the wrong end, you know, like you can she breaks
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: up with Kelsey. There'll be some There'll be some good
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: art there. I can feel it.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 5: Yesterday was was my was it highlight of my life?
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 5: I'm not gonna you know, And I think the bically
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 5: just the start. The biggest thing is just I just
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 5: want to talk football with these guys. And it's not
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 5: to go and report it and like break news or
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 5: something like that.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: I just want, you know.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 5: I asked them questions so that they can teach me football.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 5: Like that's literally it.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 15: You know.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 5: Obviously these guys are encyclopedias when it comes to this stuff.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: So it's you know, what do you look for in this?
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: What do you look for in that? What are your
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: stances on these things? Like those things are are I
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: find fascinating?
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 10: I do? Uh?
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: Anthony Wrights and says love is Blind is horrible? And
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: did Alex scare you? Reality TV used to be real breaking,
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: used to Herduce. If I could really do any reality show,
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: it'd be have to be Survivor. It'd be the most
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: fun and I have an actual chance to win, the
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: real question is how long would you make it on alone?
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: Great question? I love alone? You guys, were watching Alone.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 14: No.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 7: But for the record, I didn't say when reality TV
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 7: was real, I know it's never real, said when it
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 7: was good, like.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, well season one Jersey.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 9: Back when reality TV was reality TV, it was like fun.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: And I don't know alone is legit. I mean alone
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: is like they just take twelve people. You go up
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: into like Alaska, you go to separate camps and you
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: just see how long you can stay on your own. Yeah,
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: only have clothes because it's usually subarctic tempers.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 6: I want to do white out going with the bouncing.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: That feels unfair. There's no way to win it. I
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: feel like they're just setting you up to get I
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: just went on, Oh yeah, that was like training, like
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: a military training kind of show.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, the CBS showed was intense.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: I do Survivor though, I mean I love Survivor. I
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: think I do okay on Survivor, you know because the
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: people who stink at it like have no filter and
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: like they just say you're gonna get kicked off. Stop
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: going around giving everybody crap.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 5: My friend growing up, his mom when I was on Survivor,
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 5: and she like went really far and is now a
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 5: Survivor celebrity. Oh, one of those pitch does like podcasts
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 5: and stuff like that about the show.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: How many easy do you know any delays who's like
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: obsessed with Survivor and they've seen like every season and
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: like they know every single contestant. I've watched seasons. But
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: like there are certain people that just love that show
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: and they're like, you remember from this guy from the
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: Calling from season seven, Like one of.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 9: My best friends and her mom used to watch it
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 9: all the time.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: They loved it.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 4: I loved it.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: I watched the first to the Doer. It was good.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: Uh oh, all right, So Edmond writes in and says, hey, y'all.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: First off, Evan's hair looks excellent. Alex's hair also fantastic barbershop.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: Oh there he goes he just got. Is there any
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: word or plans to maybe change up the uniforms a
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: bit now or even change them all together with this
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: whole new revamp of the team. I really don't love
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: these current ones and just want maybe a few more
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: than just a couple of combinations for game day preach
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: is one more year?
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 5: I think it's it's in the works. I think because
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 5: they have a I think it's one more year. I
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 5: don't know, there's a.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 9: Times conversations are probably in the works with Nike, but it's.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 6: Just yeah, it varies on teams because the Rams, remember
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 6: they had the mish mash jerseys. Then we played them
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 6: in the Super Bowl and for some reason they were
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 6: allowed to wear the throwback. So I don't know. I
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 6: think if you really want to make it happen, it
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 6: can just happen.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: So the Jets are changing, there's already like they just
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: like two years ago.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 6: And because this is this is this is awful.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: I just think it's it's sad that the dynasty uniforms
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: are gone. Like just there's how many teams that won
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: multiple Super Bowls have different uniforms now than they did
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: when they want to.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 6: The thing is, I get why they did it, but
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 6: it's just bring it.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: Back and the pants.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, truly Tom Tom left like it was it was
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 6: felt like it was it was time. But I think
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 6: maybe in hindsight, this is time.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: There's a little haphazard. I say this.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 5: I know I'm supposed to be a company man, but
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 5: the blueberries are blueberries are absolutely brutal.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 6: But did you see did you think about did you
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 6: think that when it was color rush. Did you think
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 6: they were awful when it was color? And I agree?
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 6: So they used to be good, but it can't be
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 6: your everyday.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 5: The only thing that saves it are the gray pants,
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 5: Like if you're gonna wear blue with the gray pants.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 5: But that's more like it's basically the Dynasty look.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 6: It's just an updated the white jerseys. It looks like
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 6: we're a team that didn't get an NFL brand license
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 6: in a movie and we were just giving like a
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 6: template and this is the jersey. Right, So it's time.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 6: I'm with the car. We need we need something. I say,
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 6: bring back the Royal blues.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: But that's no. But there's got to be a happy
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: medium somewhere in there. I don't know.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 6: It's go to Nike and be like, do your thing.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: Well, they did that last time, and they stunk it.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 6: I don't think somebody didn't say it.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: I gotta say though, I even remember most of you
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: guys weren't even born at this time, but in two thousand,
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: when the when the they came up with these, I
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: was instantly were born. These are awesome, you know, like
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: they instantly resonated with me. There were a number of
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: different ways. Yeah, Like, it's not.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 5: They're not overly complex jerseys, the Brady era jerseys. They're
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 5: just a classic football jersey.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I wouldn't you feel different though, if
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: they came out like it's just all of a sudden,
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: this team comes out in those uniforms. Who's playing quarterback?
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 9: We have now just don't seem that legit, like you
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 9: team playing in the most like.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 5: You didn't get the licensing deal in the movie and
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 5: you had to wear these jerseys because of that.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: This one just starts off my beef with Evan. I'm
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: not sure even where it's gonna go. I'm still jumping
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: and read this one, but it's from It's from Barton
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: Poland the discussion around the third pick wouldn't be there
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: if we lost one of the two games we won
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: at the end of the season. And of course I
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: know the players won't intentionally tank, and I don't fault
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: them for winning, but I absolutely hate the fact that
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: a lot of the media, including Evan, told us to
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: enjoy those victories and what now. I hope that you've
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: enjoyed that win for the for that built the winning
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: culture for a team that will be completely different next year.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: Now we're stuck with a question if we are coping,
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: if we want to take the QB that has left
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: at number three, or is he just a consolation pliers?
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: Move on with your life. This was like a this
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: was a like four month ago argument. He's still that
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: Broncos game. Okay, I'm sorry. I'm just sad that I
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: I didn't even have a good Tamara's birthday.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 6: I know it's strength the schedule. How are the commanders
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 6: ahead of most It makes no sense, Like it just
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 6: doesn't they beat us.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 9: International?
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 5: I would just I would just say that I put
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 5: Drake May and Jayden and Daniels in the same tier.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 5: So at the end of the day, you're going to
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 5: get one of those two guys, most likely if you're
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 5: going to take a quarterback. So it's not really going
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 5: to make a difference in the odds of one being
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 5: better than the other are probably a coin flip anyway,
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 5: So who knows. I you know, you you could go
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 5: through the drafts and everybody ranked them one way and
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 5: then it turned out.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: A different way.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 6: Comander's got it wrong with Forbes. They can do it again.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean last year, Bryce Young, C. J. Stroud
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 5: do you think the Panthers wish that they took C. J.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: Stroud? Probably?
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 6: I think that's just a disaster there. Yeah, I think
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 6: they wish they share that too. Did Frank Raik say that.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: Old man Jason's been holding for a while. Let's pop
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: back over here to the phones with Jason and Chi.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: But hey, Jason, I do man.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 16: Going on?
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 26: I'm it's just a hard mornings are hard, second shift
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 26: or so.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: But I got.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 26: By Todd.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 6: Right collar and coller.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: Do you care to respond?
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 26: I'm weird, you know, I know who Todd is. I
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 26: been listening and calling in since two thousand and seven,
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 26: so I don't know where he's been this full time.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 26: But hey, listen, I'm just here to defend the world
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 26: from poor analogies. Quarterback is my race car driver. Quarterback
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 26: isn't the only one moving the team again, eleven people
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 26: on the field. Break it down a little bit. It's
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 26: nine point one one whatever percent of total success.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 17: You need to have.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: That's that's not how friend.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 5: You're telling me that the guard has as much say
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 5: of how the team's success in the quarterback.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 26: I know that you can't play down on eleven and
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 26: be successful.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 5: Well, yeah, if you literally don't have somebody on going
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 5: to play that they're gonna play. They're gonna play with
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 5: ten guys on the field, Like that's the argument. They're
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 5: they're gonna put eleven guys.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 26: Out the successful play out of all of the positions
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 26: in order to be successful.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 6: All of them, I'm.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 26: Ashworth and the plays out of them, then you should
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 26: upgrade the quarterback.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 16: If you're.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 26: Changes are going to upgrade another position where you're more
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 26: likely to get more winning plays out of that other position,
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 26: then that's what.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 10: You have to do.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 26: I mean, I agree that we should be focused on
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 26: a quarterback because they don't really have one, but I
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 26: I have seen over and over and over again, and
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 26: I was kind of hoping Paul would be around to
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 26: yell at me because he doesn't feel the play is
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 26: the former quarterback just sort of defending himself. But if
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 26: you want to stick up for Paul, that's fine. I
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 26: just think we overvalue the quarterback in general, as though
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 26: that's the that's the only thing that makes an offense.
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: Go and it's obviously not the field.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 26: They're just being completely ignored.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: It's not obviously not the only appreciate it.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 5: Say that every single position is equal to the impact
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 5: of winning and losing is crazy.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 4: I mean, it just.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 5: That's the only pushback is just that if you think that,
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 5: you know, the guard and the running back and all
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 5: these positions have as much of a say and who
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 5: the outcome of the game as the quarterback. It's not
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 5: dividing one hundred percent by eleven. It's just not like
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 5: that's just the reality.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 10: And I feel like in looking especially at like the
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 10: Super Bowl, and to everyone's point, it's like brock Purty,
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 10: he played well, like he didn't do anything to make
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 10: his team lose, but he also didn't do anything outstanding
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 10: to make his team win. And that's when, like a
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 10: really great quarterback in that situation where their defense was
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 10: playing lights out, if they would have had if they
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 10: would have had the Mahomes on their side, they probably
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 10: could have.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 4: Won the game.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, how many times Tom Brady end of a
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl? I mean, what you know, he was the
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: reason you won. I mean sometimes the defense was the
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: reason you want sometimes, but decent defense was more the
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: reason you lost. They gave up those last drives and
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: you know a lot of the times Tom bowed out.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: But I just think if you the goal is to
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: win Super Bowls. You need that guy at the end
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: of the game who can make those plays.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 5: And yeah, I mean, if this doesn't find a quarterback
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 5: that can win them football games, they're all going to
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 5: be out of a job in two years. Like that's
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 5: just the reality of life in the NFL for any buddy.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: So Jack writes in free agency splash signing subject line,
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: I hope. So with how much uncertainty there seems to
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: be for the future and players we have here, big
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: big free agency signing where we actually spend money on
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: talent seems like it would make us fans feel some
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: sort of excitement and like things are going to change
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: for the better around here. Do you guys think we'll
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: make a move like that or are we going to
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: go be going the route of being sold on the
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: Green jill Let Lighthouse experience instead of talent to players
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: that was unnecessary, That was a Red Sox shot. I think, yeah, well,
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: either way, I hope.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 10: So.
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, we talked about it on Tuesday that there's
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: a real chance to make a splash on defense, and
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: I know that they need it on offense and that
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: could happen too, But I think given how the market
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: is then you know, they could they could kind of
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: get an edge guy, or you know, they could get
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: an impact defensive player without having to really upset the
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: apple cart.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 10: You know.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: But I think we're on the same page with like
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: trying to get bar More locked up, and you know,
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: mcdougar gets locked up, and then all right, we're starting
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: to build a core here for this team to you know,
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: really to build around and on. And that's frankly what
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: they haven't had.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 10: You know.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, there's no excuse not to spending free agency. I mean,
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 5: they have the cap space. You gotta spend a minimum,
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 5: you gotta spend money. I just I hope you don't
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 5: have to spend money just to spend money though. And
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 5: I think that's where we're coming from with the defensive signings.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 5: If the best players on the board are all defensive players,
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 5: then don't go pay overpay a receiver just because he's
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 5: a receiver. You know, go where the talent goes and
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 5: sign those types of players. I think, you know, there's
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 5: a million fits on the defensive.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: Side of the ball.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 5: I think there's a lot less guys that are intriguing
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 5: on the offensive side of the ball, and that stinks
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 5: to an extent because the offense is the area that
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 5: they need the most. But I don't just go chase
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 5: saying talent. You know, good big positions. You know, you
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 5: got to chase the talent.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: This email is a little bit feeds into that from
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: the other Jack in Abba. If I'm not mistaken, The
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: Pats have two running backs under contract for next year.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: That's correct, Remondes she'vens coming off an injury and Jamichael Hasty.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: Who would you liked them to add in the private Harris? Uh,
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: that's okay, Sorry, I didn't think so.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 6: I mean he should be.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: He's probably one of those like RFAs or something, you know,
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: they have to like tender. Maybe I don't know. He's
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: been up and down from the practice squad. That usually
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: kind of complicates things any of the big name guys.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: I like Josh Jacobs because he's only twenty six, but
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: realistically that probably isn't a position worth worthy of high
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: end talent. I mean, is this could this be the
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: year to make a case to sign a veteran running back?
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: And I know we're all kind of like, I mean,
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: at least Paul and I are, you know, just you
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: draft him you use them for four years and you
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: flop them over and you draft someone new at the
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: running back position. But I mean, you know, not a
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: lot of like high end talent in the draft class
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: at least I was looking at those guys today. But
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: they are a lot of like good, tough, you know
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: running backs that seem like they come in and be
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: part of a platoon. But I mean there's like I
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: just want to keep Zeke. It's like some superstars on
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: the list, you know that are like, I mean, Josh
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: Jacobs is twenty six.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 6: I'd love to keep Zeke. That's what Evan said the
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 6: other day, Like some of these guys are just gonna
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 6: be around because and then they're just gonna have to
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 6: have a reality check, which is what Hapsquon and Josh
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 6: Shakims this year. So there's a chance you could maybe.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I kind of well, I don't know if I
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 10: would call, like a call Sequon upgrade upgrade for Zeke
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 10: just because of his injury issues, Like how much is
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 10: he actually going to be available? The name is great,
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 10: and I think first got into the league. Saquon is great,
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 10: But is Sequon still able to do that every single
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 10: game this year?
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 4: Well?
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 9: That was the question on Zeke too. When he came here.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 9: It was like, he came it's great to build himself
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 9: back up and then get paid.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 6: So just at his point, does he want to get
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 6: paid or winter ring so well?
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: I mean I wonder too, how if he would have
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: been more effective down the stretch if you had had
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: a viable platoon for him and not all kind of
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: on him. You know, it's it doesn't seem like those
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: days are still around for him.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 5: But that for what it's worth, the advance met are
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 5: not friendly to Zeke last year. I mean, he's one
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 5: of the probably the least efficient running backs in terms
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 5: of like breaking tackles and things like that. I just
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 5: look at this running back free agent class and I
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 5: wonder if the position is going to get so undervalued
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 5: by the league that all of a sudden you can
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 5: get Derrick Henry for six million months. So it's like, well,
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 5: why what don't you at that point? I mean, I
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 5: would worst your towards Let's get a lightning to Remandra's thunder,
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 5: so like a Tony Pollard or Austin Eckler, But like
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 5: you know, whoever it ends up being. I also just
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 5: think that you can only have take so many needs
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 5: to the draft, can't. You can't wait for the draft
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 5: for everything. So if you can fill some of these
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 5: holes in free agency, and I look at running back
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 5: and tight end as two positions that you might be
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 5: able to get some quality players in.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: This free agent class.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 5: At we when we do our mock drafts, the fact
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 5: that you have to take a tight end in a
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 5: running back at some point, it's kind of a It
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 5: kind of bogs you down a little bit. You're like,
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 5: oh crap, Like I guess I'll take this fifth round
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 5: tight end right exactly. It's like I have to throw
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 5: in a tight end at random time in this draft
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 5: right now, or you know, drafted Jatavian Sanders in the
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 5: second round, and it's like, is that really the best
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 5: thing for the team. So I wouldn't be totally opposed
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 5: to signing a running back. Obviously, I'm not paying any
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 5: running back significant money guaranteed.
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: But the market, you said, if the market kind of
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: you know your supply and demand and nobody wore we'll
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: just draft you can get one of those big names
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: that we just mentioned on a discount, I think I
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: would probably do it a little love for Tamara here
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: from Alex and Raleigh. She just wanted to shout out
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: Tamara for her emotional support cup representing those of us
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: who have water attached to the It's excessive. How much
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: you girls drink water?
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 4: I'm drink Excuse me.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: It's the same way.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 6: Liver is.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: She's just she goes to the bathroom like ten times
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: a day.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 6: How do you exist?
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 9: Do you know how important being hydrated is?
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: Don't, don't, don't.
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 10: It's good for your health, it's good for your skin,
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 10: it's good for your hair. Like, come on, come on,
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 10: you have to get it together.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 9: This is a lot your liver to function properly.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: When you can you just real quick spout out your
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: Starbucks order?
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 4: Usually no, no, no, he can't because it's not duncan.
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: Excuse me, sorry Duncan, But I was trying to make
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: fun of you.
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 4: No no, no, no, but you need to drink more water.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: Water, So I will say, can I make up for it?
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: I had a I had a cold brew it dunk
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: in this morning with the sweet cream foam, and it
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: was wonderful.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 6: I had that this morning, too well done.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: Gives you the kick that you need. And it's not
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: like that Starbucks crapt it's way too much.
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 9: We can't let them know.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: I've already gotten in trouble. How many pumps are in it?
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 5: I had a girl drink during a Catch twenty two.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 5: I had like my Starbucks cumpanyer, and I've already heard
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 5: from Kenny about how you know we're Duncan right, Okay.
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: You're lucky, we're PEPSI too.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 4: There.
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, James Skipper's got a Patriots question, Dan Skipper
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: what uh?
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 3: All right?
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: Love the show, guys, but Catch twenty two might be
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: beating you guys now, only because I could listen to
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: Evan curse at Barth all day. It's incredible.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 4: Listening to Evan and Barth like banter, It's incredible.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: It's magic. When Evan started working here and it was
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: like we got to figure out a way to just
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: keep these two together. I mean, like, honestly, you just
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: probably go back to like twenty twelve maybe, where it's
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: like we got Mike AsSalt from Pat's Propaganda here joining Evan,
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: and you.
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 5: Know, like we used to do that, been doing it
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 5: for so long that we just know how to push
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 5: each other's buttons and we know what's going to get
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 5: like a rise out of each other.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 9: Where you can scream at each other and then five
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 9: minutes later be like one of.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 5: These Oh yeah, Like we argued about Shanahan per usual
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 5: after the super Bowl and like it got pretty I
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 5: was like I might have said a few swears, like
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 5: got a pretty heated, and after the show we're like, yeah,
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 5: we're good, Yeah, we're good.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah. We don't even like say like we're good.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 6: It just is like, is not breaking up that friendship?
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: That's good foods. That's what's kind of funny too, Like
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: Paul's mentioned it before that you know, they have like
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: certain shows that not that it's ever really gotten all
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: that like intense, certainly between me and him, like Fred
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: and Paul. Sometimes they get into a little sometimes Fred
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: and Paul I get worried, but I do walk out
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: that red door right there, and then it's just like,
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: oh that was a good show. Yeah, good times, fun times,
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: you know, like you guys are crazy. But now they're
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: they're you know and again like it's like, what are
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: you arguing about? I can't Like if I could find
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: an angle to get in on this, I would try.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: But they're just they're experts. That's what they do.
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 8: Uh.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: Good question from Joe here. I think it's a good one.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: We understand that there are different avenues for the Patriots
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: to take regarding the number three pick, but thirty four
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: is not talked about enough. With the receiver tackle being
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: so deep in this draft, could you see them trading
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: up to the mid to late first round. If so,
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: what would Hakaj look like?
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 5: I love that question, yeah, because this is something I've
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 5: been thinking about too. Obviously, you can't do what the
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 5: Houston Texans did because you don't have a high enough
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 5: pick to go, you know, that high up. But a
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 5: mini version of what the Texans did, I would absolutely
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 5: be all four, you know, trade up from thirty four.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 5: I'll let's say twenty to twenty five range, and maybe
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 5: you do get that last premium receiver, that last premium tackle.
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 5: At the end of the day, the picks are only
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 5: as good as the players they turn into. So if
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 5: you're gonna sit there and you're gonna watch the parade
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 5: go by at receiver at tackle because you're too far
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 5: out of the of the show, then.
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: Go up and get it. Makes me appreciate Matt Light
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: because he was that's you know, that's why they took
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: Seymour in the first round, and they took matt Light
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: at the top of the second. And you know, just
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: looking at some of the tackles, which you know we
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: mentioned before you've seen mock drafts, there's nine tackles in
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: the first round, but even as you get down into
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: like eight nine, like they're not sure fire day one
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: starters in that group. So you know, for matt Light,
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: as you know, in different class, different year, different everything,
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: but still to be able to get a starter with
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: that pick, it feels like that would make sense. If
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: you don't think you got a starter day one at
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: that spot, maybe you do bump up a little bit
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: and just try to hit some of the the bigger.
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 5: Needs bigger we do the mock drafts, like I tackle,
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 5: you know, the top of the second round guys, or
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 5: like Jordan Morgan from Arizona who's got shorter arms is
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 5: and it doesn't have like that ideal tackle build. Patrick
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 5: Paul from Houston, who's a freak, you know, big athlete,
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 5: but is really really raw and probably isn't like a
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 5: day one starter. Like these are the guys that we're
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 5: talking about. Fatanu from Washington who's also another like guard
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 5: build really that's gonna could play tackle. So maybe it
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 5: is or Mims from Georgia, who basically has only started
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 5: like eight games his entire collegiate career. Is does really
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 5: really raw player.
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 6: You see the video him in high school.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 5: By the way, Oh no, he's he's a freak, don't
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 5: get me wrong. But he started I think it's seven
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 5: or eight games at Georgia over the last two years,
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 5: and then he was hurt for a good portion of
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 5: the year last year. So you're basically just going off trades,
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 5: like you're this guy is big and got good feet
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 5: and all that kind of stuff.
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: But you're basically just going off trades.
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 5: So you're trading up ten picks so that maybe you
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 5: do land it, you know, somebody that's a little bit
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 5: more of a sure thing.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: I think makes a lot of sense. It's so crazy,
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: like I failing to think of a specific example, but
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you can think of one. Like just going
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: to the combine and especially with like offensive linemen, and
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: you see some of these guys walk in whereas like
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: you are just an absolute giant human being and then
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: it's like they're a total bust. You know, like the
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: guy's six seven three pounds and bust bust. No, he's
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: like out of the again. It's just it's it's crazy.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: How not even when you have monumental size or you know,
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: any of these traits like it does it never guarantees anything,
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: especially as that size.
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 9: It's like, how do you carry that on your frame?
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: RK Now gonna go be like a regular person in
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: the world is like six seven.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 4: Three ring next to a guy like you remember Devandre
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 4: Sweat from Singer Bowl.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's I mean I don't have to stand
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: next to him.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 5: He's like he didn't want to weigh He didn't measure
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 5: in at the Senior Bowl because he weighs. He doesn't
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 5: want teams to know how much he weighs.
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: Like three forty. I think it's gonna be.
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 5: I think at the Senior Bowl he probably would have
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 5: been like three sixty five.
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 4: Well we'll find out the combin Oh yeah, it's hard
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 4: for their.
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 9: Bodies sold to like look at a guy like like
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 9: not to take it to the NBA.
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 7: But like Zion Williamson, I covered him when he was
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 7: in high school at Hoopault and like when he would
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 7: come down from a dunk.
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 9: The whole gym would just like shake and you're like,
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 9: how do you move like that? But it only lasts
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 9: for so long.
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 6: To go to the food capital of the South all
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 6: the time. But we got to drink water, the water
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 6: drinking water.
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 5: You see it with Trent Brown, Like how many high
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 5: quality reps can you put into a game at that size?
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 5: Like there's gonna be reps where you're gonna have to
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 5: take take a playoff like there just is. And I
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 5: think in Cleveland, Dewan Jones, who we all really liked.
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 5: That's I think what the Cleveland staff was starting to
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 5: figure out about him is that he it's not that
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 5: he's lazy, he just it's a lot.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: It's a lot of right. So yeah, a nice email
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: here from from our friend Claire, who I'm sure should
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: be I haven't heard from Claire yet, but I think
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: she should be very excited that I that the tight
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: Ends coaches went to my high school. So you know,
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: I got a personal relationship. It's getting a lot of
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: plays just for your Claire. Oh Will I told everybody
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: I want to be super annoying about I got to
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: get out of here. Yeah, but you know, but I
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: mean it was. I mean, he was the star of
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: the team. Like so imagine yourself as like an eight
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: year old You're going to the high school, you know,
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: going to the high school football team. And this was
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: back in the day when you know, everybody went to
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: the game, especially Thanksgiving when it was Holliston West with
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 1: a whole you know, and he was the man. His
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: dad was coaching at BC. But you know, it was
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: it was crazy time because his dad was coaching at
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: BC the same time that that Doug Flutie was happening.
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: So Doug Flutie won. You know, there were like spoof
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 1: songs on the radio like two d Flutie and you
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: know and and and his son Bob, and Holliston was
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: taking them to the Super Bowl. So it's just such
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: a time that's ingrained in my mind. I really don't
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: know if I'd love football as much if not for
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: like those days, going to those games, games, and you know,
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: just loving the atmosphere of football and all of that
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: goes into it.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 6: So it's Letterman jacket.
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I wasn't that crazy. But but no great
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 1: guy and you know know some Holy Cross guys that
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 1: went to bec and stuff. So it was cool, but anyway,
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: I digress, Claire writes in just a quick off season
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: kind of email. Tomorrow, I celebrate my third anniversary of
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: a Claire perspective, Bodkayer. I recorded my eighty eighth show today,
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: and part of the reason I'm here is you, guys.
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: I won't bore you with a huge thank you, no
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: smushing message, but simple appreciation to you for all this,
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: all this for the show and all the support for
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: my show. Deuce was guest on my episode one. A
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: massive thank you to Pu and Patination. Without you, I
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be who I am today. So congrats to Claire.
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: And I think like when she started and I gave
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: her like our blogger advice, which is like just keep going,
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: like you just have to keep going. You can't do
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 1: four episodes and be like where's my deal? Like yeah,
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: eighty eight areas. She's still grinding. And even when I
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, Evan, you guys had a pot?
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 6: What did you did?
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: You guys? Just start you and Alex just a podcast.
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: We have so many random names.
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  Speaker 3: I did.
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  Speaker 1: I did a past propaganda and friends with Eric friends
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  Speaker 1: who was an old writer from Buyer Globe. He was
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: a good guy, got out of it. But it's funny
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  Speaker 1: because I look back at some of those on blog
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  Speaker 1: Talk Radio, which was like a website that came out
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: that you know, you basically just produce a blog from
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: your computer. And it's crazy because we, I mean, Greg Badar,
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: you know, got all the guests that we were beating
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: the bushes for doing the same thing that Claire was doing.
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  Speaker 1: So anybody that starts this stuff, that's just what I
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  Speaker 1: tell him. You gotta stick with it, you gotta. I
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: mean I I think I wrote my first blog about
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots in December of two thousand and seven, and
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: I got a job here in twenty nineteen, so twelve
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: years I just wrote about the Patriots on my own
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: podcast and on my own no one telling me to
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: do it. I loved it, love of the game. It
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: takes a while.
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  Speaker 5: My very first podcast was in my college dorm room
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 5: with my college roommates and wasn't Barth at the time somehow,
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 5: but you know, that was it. And I got a
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 5: great piece of advice from from somebody, actually, I think
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 5: it might have been John Wallack of all people, and
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 5: he said, you know who is your favorite Patriots?
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 10: Right?
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 5: And I said, Mike Grease, and he said, just act
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 5: like Mike Grease, like you're not Mike Greece, but just
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 5: like fake it till you make it. Like you know
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 5: what he what he does, you know, watch what he does,
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 5: read what he does, and just don't steal it. But
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 5: like just the work ethic and you know all that
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 5: kind of stuff and just you know, follow his lead.
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 5: And when I got on the beat, that's literally exactly
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 5: what I did.
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: So I'm amazed by Mike Greese's it's not competitive stamina,
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 1: it's like professional stamina to continue to cover the team
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: and the way that he does so thoroughly through the
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 1: ups and downs, through you know, I mean, it's you
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: can feel the vibe around the team in the last
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 1: few years when they weren't as good and it wasn't
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: just this like oh my god, like you know, we
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: got Tom Brady and Julian Edelman and like the fact,
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: you know, parade of stars that there were to write
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: about and anything you could kind of talk about was interesting.
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 1: And I just that's what's been amazing to watch Mike
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 1: over these years, and uh, you know, is just continue
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 1: to do what he does even though the team isn't
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: that great. He continues to be that that guy that
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 1: everybody knows that he is, and I mean just you know,
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 1: so pointed with his questions and you know, smart about it,
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 1: always respect full of Bill. I think we all kind
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: of feel bad when Bill would kind of like, you know,
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 1: it's like my grease, Bill, come on, it's he's delicately
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 1: trying to ask you this stuff and I don't know,
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: you know, blowing off Mike. But but true professional and
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: great advice. But still I would say, plenty of room
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: to cover the team your way, you know, and that's
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: what's yeah of yourself.
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 5: The way that he like the it was more just
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 5: you know, the professionalism that he went about it. I
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 5: think that stood out to me because him and I
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 5: probably covered the team pretty differently, honestly, but it just
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 5: his professionalism, his work ethic, and he's at everything, you know,
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 5: and everything. I feel like that's a big part of
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 5: it too. When you first are starting out, you have
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 5: to you have to be on the scene for every
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 5: little like there's no training camp practice that's too big,
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 5: you know.
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: So and was a writer here first was you know,
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 1: it was crazy to me Fred. Imagine if Fred the
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 1: early starmaker that that Fred was.
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 3: Matt.
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  Speaker 1: There was an an email here Bet. Big mistake last Thursday.
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 1: Big mistake by Matt. One of the trivia questions who
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 1: was scored? Who scored the first touchdown in Super Bowl
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: forty nine? Matt said it was Gronk. In fact, it
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: was bringing problem with the trivia questions.
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 6: Hold on, hold on, It wasn't first touchdown, it was
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 6: first who caught the first pass of Super forty nine?
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 1: Oh all right, well, just Ron Burgundy.
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  Speaker 6: I read what's in front of me.
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 1: I'm Matt Morrel, Ricky and Connecticut just chimes in. There's
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  Speaker 1: no such thing as blowing the swings. It's a tender.
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 9: Wow, thank you, thank you, sir.
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 1: Oh No, Chris Cassidy got a bad tender the other day, Harret.
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah, there's a difference. But we don't have
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 1: time to do this. No, but once you get a
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: bad tender, I mean we as everybody had a bad
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: chicken McNugget. I don't want not the McDonald's guy, but
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: everybody's had a bad chicken McNugget.
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 4: Right back in the day before it was all white meat. Yes,
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 4: do you remember that?
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 6: I used to think that.
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 1: Remember there's like one that's kind of shaped like a fish.
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: And remember, I mean, I'm sure bring the.
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 4: Chicken. The Chicken selects were fire.
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: The rectangles fire. The rectangles were.
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 9: The no one scared me, the ones that are stuck together.
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 4: There was nothing better than Chicken select. Chicken Selects were ten.
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 1: Out of ten McDonald's fries to hold up.
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 9: Sure, still great, They're not as good as they used
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 9: to be. Do you have the McDonald's and Germany fries,
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 9: those chili cheesebergs.
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: Well, not all of us could go to McDonald's in Germany.
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 1: What did they have there? I'm just kidding. You've told
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 1: me everything. Five guys, everything you could ever want. That
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: guys saved my life in Germany.
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 6: Like I was just in such a bad place.
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: I was so jet lagged, and like you didn't want
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: the breakfast and I wanted like just an ice drink like.
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 9: Sara.
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 6: We didn't get to go.
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 9: I went twice.
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 6: Evan and I were looking for some brats and the
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 6: lady was like, there's this old German lady who like
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 6: makes homemade brought worse and we couldn't find her.
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 9: The problems is a lot of those places are cash only, and.
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 6: You always leave something to go back for.
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: There you go, there you go. I'm it will be that.
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 6: Maybe.
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 9: Sorry, sorry, Brazil, we're going to get We're going to
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 9: have just.
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: Skater quick one from Tyler D and n y C.
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 6: Why is it called special teams?
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 10: Is that?
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 4: Is that a real question?
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: I like philosophical questions.
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 10: I don't know that that type of question could get
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 10: a twenty minute response from Bill.
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 4: A special team?
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: Right, Well, it's specialists, special list for specialists or special teams.
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 1: Well that's a twenty minute answer from Bill. Why are
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: we special? What's so special about it? I don't get it.
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 6: It takes special skills to play on specialty?
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 4: Can you just google this?
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: That's the kind of and that's the answer.
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 6: It's from the It's from West Virginia News. Okay, right uh.
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 1: Kendall just says a big fan of the show. I'm here.
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: You guys will be at the combine. I will also
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: be there as part of the scouting course I take,
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: and I hope to get up with you guys and
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 1: get a picture. Kendall, We would all be happy to
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 1: take a picture with you, and and Evan will probably
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 1: ask you questions about your scouting.
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 27: Course early for you I was gonna say I've taken
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 27: I've taken some courses in my day, so I.
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 4: Was gonna say a scouting course. That sounds like just
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 4: like you, Evan, I won't say that.
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: Never mind, you're gonna go to the UH should go
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: to the coaches thing in early March, the clinic.
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 5: I have wanted to go to that now, especially the coordinators.
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 5: I think we're talking at it the Pictriots coordinators, so
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 5: that'd be cool. Yeah, I've done some of those scouting courses.
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 5: They're they're good if you like are just start really
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 5: just starting to to try to learn the game.
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, good stuff. I don't know you guys. I tried
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: to get through all these emails, and I think I
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 1: got through most of them. Some some real draft minutia,
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: which you know, as everybody's got their opinions on Drake
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 1: may and and Jade and Daniels and all that. But
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna take the last part of this one
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: from Jonah. How many tackles does Hi Tower having training camp?
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 1: How many times will Mayo have to tell him not
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 1: to try and suit up during the season?
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 9: He looked like, yes, and I were talking about this.
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 9: The Crisp Patriots, you can tell you.
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 5: And he said that he had just come from a workout,
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 5: like he was like sweat still like dripping down his face,
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 5: and I was like, dude, you know that you're not playing.
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 1: It was like it was the same old high tower
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 1: that I always remember would like peek through the door
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: at the end of the locker room and see the
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 1: media was in there and be like nope.
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 5: It's so funny because I when I talked to him
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 5: for the Mayo thing, I was like, you're like really
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 5: good at this, Like you're good at and Jamie Collins
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 5: was really good for that as well. And those two
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 5: guys used to dodge us like like no other. And
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 5: I was like, but you're good at it. You're really
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 5: good at telling stories and stuff. I don't know why
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 5: you guys hated talking to us so much.
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 1: It's cool having him back. I mean, it's just again
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 1: it just goes to just the broad array of coaches
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: that they've come in. I mean, it's just it's it's
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 1: a lot to take in. I mean, I feel like
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: as a content team, there's probably a lot of stories
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: that we could probably you know, find amongst these guys.
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 1: But you know, one last thing I'll say is as
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: we get ready to wrap up here was I thought
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 1: it was interesting Drew yesterday, saying, like I'm a first
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 1: year head coach, like not everybody gets the staff right
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: on the first try, and we're just going to kind
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 1: of go with it. Like I kind of liked how
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 1: we at least acknowledge, like, you know, there was a
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: lot of moving pieces this offseason, and I mean he
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: hired something around twenty new guys that are all coming
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 1: in with various backgrounds, and it's you know, going to
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 1: be his job to pull all these guys together and
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 1: you know, try to find a central you know, string
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: to bring what's our team going to be, what's our philosophy.
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 1: But just my last thought was, you know, coming out
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 1: of those meetings, it's like, if I was a player,
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 1: I'd want to play for these guys. You know, they
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 1: seem like they know how to you know, push some
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 1: the right buttons. But we'll see, Like at the end
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 1: of the day, for as prickly as Bill was, you
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 1: want to win, and that's what That's what the bottom
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 1: line is going to be for everybody.
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 9: That's the thing.
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 7: It's like it's like with a parent, you don't necessarily
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 7: want your parents to be your best friend, but also
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 7: you don't.
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 9: Want them to be too strict. Like there's that fine balance, right, dude.
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 1: That really hit home for dude. I'm not going to
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 1: get into it right now.
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  Speaker 9: We don't need to delve into the childhood Trump and
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  Speaker 9: we do a kid's show.
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  Speaker 1: No, I have pet peeve that people are like, I,
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