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What's Happening at the Courthouse: Issues over protection orders · "What's happening at the Courthouse?" with Rameez Khan

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  Speaker 1: For some prison is where it ends for all court
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  Speaker 1: is where it begins this ain't no tv show this
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  Speaker 1: is the real world.
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  Speaker 2: And this is what's happening at the courthouse on kfm
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  Speaker 2: mornings with ramiz.
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  Speaker 3: Okay so out on the steps of the belleville courthouse
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  Speaker 3: yesterday ramiz asking everybody one simple question.
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  Speaker 4: What are you doing at the courthouse.
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  Speaker 1: Today I'm with my husband for a case.
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  Speaker 4: So, basically, you said to me there was a fight
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  Speaker 4: that broke out.
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  Speaker 5: The lady that.
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  Speaker 1: Loves her round the corner, she hit my cousin from
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  Speaker 1: the back and my brother.
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  Speaker 4: She hit them?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Why?
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  Speaker 1: She said it's her son's territory, it's her road, no
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  Speaker 1: one can do them nothing.
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  Speaker 3: Whoa.
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  Speaker 1: And then someone came to come call me, my mother.
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  Speaker 1: So my mother asked, why is he fighting? So she said, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's her, why would she do it?
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  Speaker 5: I said, you too, but.
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  Speaker 6: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I smacked my mother. So my mother just
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  Speaker 1: smacked her back. And then her daughter also wanted to
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  Speaker 1: eat my mother.
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  Speaker 5: So I ate the daughter. Then two months afterwards, we.
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  Speaker 1: Just hear the police came up and come pick us up.
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  Speaker 1: So they made a case against us.
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  Speaker 4: And your husband? He was also put in him.
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  Speaker 1: My brother, my cousin, my mother, and my uncle.
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  Speaker 4: So everyone was involved, obviously, in the case.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, but it was just us fighting.
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  Speaker 4: But this lady, did she make the case against all
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  Speaker 4: of you?
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  Speaker 5: All of us.
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  Speaker 4: But how is that possible if she was the one
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  Speaker 4: who started the fight?
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  Speaker 1: Because we didn't make a case at all.
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  Speaker 7: Ah.
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  Speaker 4: So it looks like she's innocent. Your husband is in
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  Speaker 4: custody still?
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  Speaker 5: No, he's out.
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  Speaker 4: And everyone else? Also out.
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  Speaker 5: Out on bail.
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  Speaker 4: Obviously then the case is going to continue.
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  Speaker 1: But she's not saying that because she's saying we did
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  Speaker 1: threaten them and we were the people that started the fight.
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  Speaker 5: And all that.
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  Speaker 4: All because your brother was riding on a bicycle?
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  Speaker 7: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 1: So she said, my cousin, they threatened her son or
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  Speaker 1: something like that.
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  Speaker 2: What?
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  Speaker 5: But we saw everything.
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  Speaker 4: No, man, this is like ridiculous. This woman, does she
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  Speaker 4: want you guys to move out of the area?
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  Speaker 1: It's like she has a vendetta. She's jealous because she's
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  Speaker 1: out here. Because we work for the things we want.
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  Speaker 1: Her son is a gangster, whatever, selling drugs.
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  Speaker 5: There, whatever.
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  Speaker 4: What does she do? Does she not work?
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  Speaker 1: No, she doesn't work.
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  Speaker 5: No one works there by them.
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  Speaker 3: Oh.
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  Speaker 4: How do they survive?
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  Speaker 1: The drugs money.
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  Speaker 4: That's poisonous money.
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  Speaker 1: That is how they live.
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  Speaker 4: And how do you live?
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  Speaker 6: I work.
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  Speaker 1: My husband is a road truck driver.
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  Speaker 4: So you guys are innocent, hardworking people.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and this case has been going on now for
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  Speaker 1: four years.
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  Speaker 3: What?
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  Speaker 4: So this happened in COVID?
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  Speaker 1: 22 September.
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  Speaker 2: Crazy.
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  Speaker 1: We tried to talk to the... Lawyer and all.
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  Speaker 5: Mediator. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: First he wanted 1,000 rand. Afterwards it was 2,000 rand.
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  Speaker 1: And then she came back from lunch. She said she
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  Speaker 1: wanted 10,000 rand. I told him no.
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  Speaker 4: For what?
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  Speaker 1: This is going to put her on the case.
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  Speaker 4: So she wants a bribe, basically. You look tired, though.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I am.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you very much for your time, ma'am. I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 4: I hope that the case goes away soon. I hope so.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Bye-bye.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: What are you doing at the courthouse today?
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  Speaker 7: I came to assist a friend of mine diagnosed with
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  Speaker 7: severe dementia, frontotemporal dementia, whilst he was sick. Somebody who
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  Speaker 7: he has known for 20, 25 years got a protection
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  Speaker 7: order against him because he was sitting in front of
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  Speaker 7: their house, watching their house, waiting for the husband, who
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  Speaker 7: unfortunately has deceased.
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  Speaker 5: But because he's got.
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  Speaker 7: Dementia, he doesn't really know that the husband's not there anymore.
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  Speaker 7: This person has got a new boyfriend. And I know
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  Speaker 7: that we did go and try and see her to
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  Speaker 7: ask her to to draw back the protection order, but
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  Speaker 7: they are fighting it tooth and nail not to get
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  Speaker 7: this protection order away. So my friend is on bail.
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  Speaker 7: We are coming to court to extend the bail so
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  Speaker 7: that he can go to Falkenberg Hospital for a day's
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  Speaker 7: observation so that Falkenberg can verify the private reports and the.
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  Speaker 5: Coral Bremer reports immediately.
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  Speaker 7: Is true because the court cannot just accept the private reports.
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  Speaker 7: And there's a 103-day waiting period for him to get
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  Speaker 7: a bed at Falkenberg.
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  Speaker 4: That's the backlog of patients.
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  Speaker 7: Yes. They will then confirm that the medical status is
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  Speaker 7: as it is and then all these things will be withdrawn.
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  Speaker 4: But now how many times has he decided to sit
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  Speaker 4: there and wait for his friend?
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  Speaker 7: Oh, he would probably sit there two, three times a week,
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  Speaker 7: I think. Sometimes he would go knock on their door.
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  Speaker 7: and then the answer and then the dog would bark
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  Speaker 7: at at him and then he would say rude things
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  Speaker 7: to the dog and.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah obviously he's trying to defend himself yes yes and
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  Speaker 4: he's sick and now she says that he's like stalking
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  Speaker 4: her stalking her which is not true obviously.
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  Speaker 7: Not true because he's got nothing to do with her
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  Speaker 7: he doesn't care about them he just wants to.
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  Speaker 4: See his friend yeah Is she not sympathetic or empathetic?
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  Speaker 7: Not at all. Our attorneys have also asked to please withdraw,
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  Speaker 7: and they will have nothing to do with withdrawing it.
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  Speaker 4: This is such a sad story, though.
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  Speaker 7: Very, very sad. He's got no idea even why he
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  Speaker 7: is here.
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  Speaker 4: He was obviously locked up, and that must have been
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  Speaker 4: completely traumatizing for him.
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  Speaker 7: When they arrested him, he was tipped over. And that
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  Speaker 7: actually speeded up his dementia. Because I saw him a
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  Speaker 7: couple of times a week because he used to rent
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  Speaker 7: a property from me.
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  Speaker 4: So you're not even like a family member of him?
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  Speaker 5: I'm not a family member.
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  Speaker 4: Just a concerned friend?
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  Speaker 5: Concerned friend and yeah. He doesn't even live in the
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  Speaker 5: area anymore.
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  Speaker 7: He's in a 24-7 care facility.
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  Speaker 4: So he hasn't even been back there to that house?
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  Speaker 5: They just want him to be locked away.
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  Speaker 4: But he's now no longer going there. So what's the problem?
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  Speaker 5: Exactly. It's very sad.
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  Speaker 4: But thank you very much for your time. And thank
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  Speaker 4: you for sharing the story.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you.
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  Speaker 4: Bye-bye. Interesting.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Sure. So not divorces today.
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  Speaker 7: No, no, no.
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  Speaker 3: Not mommy's boys being defended by moms today.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we left them for last week.
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  Speaker 3: Totally different in Balboa. Good job, Ramiz.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you very much.
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  Speaker 3: That's what's happening at the courthouse. It's Jojo. Get out.
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  Speaker 3: It's KFM Mornings. We got your comments here from this
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  Speaker 5: No, not there.
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  Speaker 7: Those people, that number one girl at the office, for
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  Speaker 7: the other hand, no, she's scandalous.
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  Speaker 4: Yo, you can't be so scandalous.
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  Speaker 5: Her car is so scandalous.
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  Speaker 6: On the first case, she's such a piece of shit.
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  Speaker 6: And when you're done, she goes to the police station.
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  Speaker 6: Or she wants to make money out of you. And
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  Speaker 6: look what the girl is telling you there. The mother
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  Speaker 6: knows the son is selling drugs and no one is
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  Speaker 6: working at the home.
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  Speaker 5: So, she's also with her son. So, moorla.
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  Speaker 6: I'm sorry for that guy with the dementia because having
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  Speaker 6: a protection order against him, he won't even know about it.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sorry. I definitely feel sympathetic, but....
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  Speaker 2: Being on the other side of it and having someone
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  Speaker 2: at your house two, three times a week, that uneasy
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  Speaker 2: feeling of never knowing who's ringing your doorbell or if
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  Speaker 2: you get home, the person's going to be sitting opposite
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  Speaker 2: your house. You don't know how they're going to react.
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  Speaker 5: The behavior is unpredictable. I would proceed.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry to say it, but that is the right
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  Speaker 2: thing to do because if anything does happen after that,
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  Speaker 2: you at least have a leg to stand on legally
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  Speaker 2: that you did try to protect yourself.