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  The American people are on my side on this one,
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  Adam. Adam Curry. It's Sunday, September 27th, 2026. This is
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  your award-winning Kipo Nation Media assassination episode 1907. This is
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  no agenda. It is an agenda. Adam Curry coming to
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  you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country. Time
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  for another media deconstruction. Once again, friend of the show,
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  Jason Calacanis, will be joining us for the next two
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  hours. That's right. It's no agenda. 1,907. Stay tuned for
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  J. Cal joining us in one minute and 13 seconds.
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  J. Cal to Ace. Ace. No, it's in the wind.
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  Yo, Adam Curry on the left, the pioneer on the
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  mic Looking for a co-host who can keep the fire
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  tight Enter Jason Calacanis, J. Cal in the building Not
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  from NorCal, don't get it twisted, chilling He ain't no
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  NorCal, softy sipping oat milk loxias He straight East Coast
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  energy Cutting through the static number Adam ever had Let's
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  go, let's go, Brudetti scrambling for three We'll be right
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  back. The knowledge tech deals in the grind While Curry
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  drops the truth bombs Leaving minds behind J. Cal, not
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  from NorCal Say it loud, say it clear Different routes,
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  same mission Cutting through the fifth Brunetti in the corner
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  Not from NorCal Never was, never will Just the best
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  damn co-host Running up that bill Adam Curry and J.
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  Cal The pair that can't be touched Brunetti and Duke
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  Y'all still fighting too much not created by dana brunetti
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  oh my goodness i'm telling you man thank you very
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  much melody melody melody has given up he used to
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  do songs himself he's given up and he's just gone
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  the ai route as everybody seems to be going in
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  the morning jay cow In the morning to you, Adam.
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  In the morning, brother. Thank you for coming back on
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  the show. Of course. My pleasure. Dana did a solid
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  job last time. I like Dana. Well, we actually now
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  have a chat group together, which is kind of extremely
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  heterosexual. Three 60 year old men talking about previous victories
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  and future conquests. Wait a minute. You're not. How old
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  are you, Jacob? 55, 55. Okay. Yeah, he's 53. So.
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  Oh, okay. I'm the elder of the group. There you
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  go. I'm the elder. Man, we got a lot to
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  talk about, but what I like so much this morning,
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  first of all, I'm like, J. Cal's going to be
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  here. I don't have to worry about it. And then
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  I got a text, I'm sorry, an app, as they
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  call it in Europe. I got an app, a WhatsApp.
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  I got an app. And I'm like, what time? What
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  time? Well, you know what happened was you sent the
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  calendar invite and had 11. And I was like, oh,
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  he doesn't know how to use the calendar. No, no,
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  11 – oh yeah you're right yes so i was
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  like did he change the time let me just make
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  sure i get this i'm a moron you know what
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  i got i got i'm gonna give this all to
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  my muse robot and make the muse robot do it
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  all yes which we'll talk about but so jacal sends
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  me a link he's like hey look at this And
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  we were both thinking the same thing at the same
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  time. Top of the news in the United Kingdom at
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  what is it? Fair Ford Royal Air Force Base. There
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  was a bomb – I mean, I'm not even sure
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  if it's definitely a bomb – if there were bombs
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  in the vans that were parked outside. This is like
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  the weirdest – bombing very unclear yeah i mean you
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  you park three vans in a village where 800 people
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  live and then think no one's gonna find that suspicious
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  and so the vans are supposedly packed with explosives so
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  they evacuate the and i'm seeing this on the quad
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  screen i'm seeing the bbc and like and it's still
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  on Swift arrests of suspects in RAF Fanford incident. This
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  is where the U.S. B-2 bombers are stationed in the
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  U.K. And as predicted right away, of course, it can
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  only be two things. It can either be Iran. It
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  can be Russia. Blah! probably Russia. The BBC security correspondent
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  Frank Gardner has the latest. What I can tell you
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  is that this was not intelligence-led. So counter-terrorism police, rather
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  than say MI5 or GCHQ are the lead in this.
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  Britain's counter-terrorism police are the lead on this. The two
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  obvious sort of suspects, but I think we've got to
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  keep an open mind on this until we know more,
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  are Russia and Iran. Why? Because of the context. That's
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  not to say it is them. But if you look
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  at the context, there have been a number of instances
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  of so-called hybrid warfare around Europe this summer. This year,
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  in fact, going back several months, arson at warehouses, the
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  discovery of three explosive drones at Leipzig Halla Airport that's
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  used as a cargo hub for resupplying Ukraine, cyber attacks,
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  suspicious drones over sensitive installations, nuclear bases, and so on.
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  You know, and I realized... That this is what Mark
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  Ritter had been talking about for two years. Hybrid warfare,
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  hybrid warfare. And so this seems like such a –
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  I thought the guy – well, maybe he probably still
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  is working for us. But he's like the whisperer. Like,
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  oh, it's coming. Hybrid warfare, hybrid warfare. So all these
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  arson attacks, everything is all Russia. Or is it? And
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  the Kremlin attitude, the Moscow's attitude is, look, NATO and
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  Britain especially... are essentially waging an indirect war with us
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  via Ukraine. So if they're supplying missiles that are hitting
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  us, why shouldn't they feel a bit of pain? And
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  the Russians have pretty much said, you know, this is
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  not going to be cost-free for you guys, but they're
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  not revealing what form that sort of retribution is going
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  to take. It may not be them. Let's not forget
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  that these bases are being used by the U.S. as
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  staging posts in their war with Iran. But I think,
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  I mean, Iran is currently on a sort of is
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  pushing for a peace deal very much on its terms,
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  terms that are unacceptable to President Trump. But I think
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  it would be a miscalculation by the IRGC if this
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  was... them trying to do this. One thing I'm pretty
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  sure is that if it's either Iran or Russia, they
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  will have used proxies to do this. I very much
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  doubt, and I could be proved wrong later today, but
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  I very much doubt that the people arrested will be
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  Russians or Iranians. So the guys who did it, okay
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  they're not russians or iranians but no they're proxies they
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  have the proxies of course well it's so cynical there's
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  they there's a report five middle eastern looking young man
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  running through the trees uh this is not uh one
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  person right it's not like a lone wolf situation it's
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  a And second, third generation Muslims who have been radicalized
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  in the UK could have been flipped, I guess, by
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  Iranians. I doubt Russians, though. They can never say this.
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  They can never say it. You can't say that. You
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  know, I was talking to Christina this morning. We do
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  a Sunday podcast. After church, we call up, we want
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  to see the baby. We want to see the grandbaby.
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  Yes. And she said, oh, Dad, it's so bad here.
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  They had... Rotterdam Pride, which is, you know, gay pride
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  parade. And, you know, they have canals in Rotterdam, too.
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  But I'm not even sure if it was in the
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  water. But it was on a bridge. And there were
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  a bunch of young, I'm going to probably say... Moroccan
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  guys on the fat bikes you know have you ever
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  seen these fat bikes yeah basically they're like uh e-bikes
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  that can go 35 miles an hour you don't need
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  a license maybe you do need a license yeah exactly
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  no they're crazy so these kids are dangerous on these
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  on these fat bikes So they're standing on either a
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  bridge or an overpass, and they're spitting on everybody down
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  below. And so Christina's friend says, hey, that's not very
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  nice. They turn around, spit in her face. Christina says...
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  It's like, Dad, all I hear around here is Arabic.
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  It's like, get my grandbaby her U.S. passport and let's
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  get you over here. It's ending. The world is figuring
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  out what like unmitigated – immigration means, you know, and
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  the people to watch is Japan. They're very on top
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  of this. They need to have immigration, but they –
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  They do not let people not assimilate. So if you
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  try to create, like, Chinatown or Little Italy or, you
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  know, Little Tehran, whatever little, you know, charming… neighborhood you
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  want to create, they say, no, you can't do that.
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  You're in Japan. You could have a ton of Italians
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  come. We could have a ton of Chinese come. But
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  you can't make your own area. Still Japan. Got to
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  keep it as Japan. So they're very hardcore about if
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  you're coming to Japan, you're assimilating to Japan, and they
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  keep raising the stakes, but people still want to go
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  there. So if you... agree to like invest $200,000 and
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  have one employee, you can come and you know, with
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  an economic visa. If you want to come now, you
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  have to know the language. And I think that's going
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  to be the key that you'll see all Western countries
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  go to. which is you have to learn the language.
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  You have to learn the language. If you don't learn
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  the language on the way in and somebody else does,
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  well, then that person should get first shot at legal
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  immigration. It's pretty common sense if you think about it.
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  That's the one thing people forget about President Trump is
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  he locked that stuff down, changed that. Now they're mad
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  about other things. Of course, got to be mad about
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  something. And it's funny because I'm still watching the West
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  Wing. We're now on season seven. Everything Trump has done
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  in his two administrations, President Jed Bartlett, a.k.a. Martin Sheen,
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  did on the West Wing. And then it was, oh,
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  yes, great, strong president. This is fantastic, including assassinating a
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  foreign head of state. It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. 20 years
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  ago, I was at the Milken conference, not to go
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  like full Illuminati. It's not like a crazy hard conference.
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  Did you have to get naked and run around in
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  the woods? No, no. I think that's the bohemian grove,
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  which is extremely alpha and heterosexual, even though it's only
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  men in the woods in loincloths. Don't worry. I have
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  friends who are part of it. They're like, please don't
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  discuss it on the pod. Please don't talk about it
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  on the podcast. And I'm like, Dvorak went there. Dvorak
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  talked about it frequently. He's like, ah, it was lame.
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  It was no good. I'm like, did you go to
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  the right one? I mean, it doesn't seem like it.
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  It is definitely in, I think... The lame category because
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  of this. It might be a fine thing to go
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  to, but because they try to make it this cloak
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  and dagger thing, it's like, oh, come on. But anyway,
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  I'm at this thing and they Milken would have these
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  economists come on, you know, business leaders, and they would
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  always ask the question like, hey, what worries you? This
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  is before P. Doom of AI. And I remember watching
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  Rupert Murdoch. And he's like, what worries me 20 years
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  ago is radical Islam in Europe. People are not integrating.
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  And in France, you have the French are not accepting
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  Islam. And letting people assimilate, and those people are not
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  assimilating. So you have this really difficult situation where you
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  have Muslims coming to Paris. The Parisians are like, you're
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  never going to be French. You cannot be French in
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  our mind. Then you're second generation, third generation, and you
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  live and you're French, and you have a French passport.
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  But you're not accepted as French. And this led to,
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  like he said, this is going to just lead to
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  all kinds of crazy terrorism, etc., which is exactly what
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  happened in France. Charlie Hebdo, etc. Well, the difference, of
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  course, with immigration to France is a lot of these
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  African countries, they speak French already. So there's a leg
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  up there. But really, the Netherlands never had the quote-unquote
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  Muslim problem. You know, they've had, they had first, they
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  had the Moluccas, and they had the Surinams, and they
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  had the Turks. And the Turks are now fully integrated,
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  but it's the Moroccans. The Moroccans are the one, I
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  don't think, I mean, they're changing, they're changing everything. You
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  know, people get very frustrated. Worried about the United States,
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  certainly Texas. I mean, there's four million Muslims living in
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  America. The problem is they organize well around political campaigns
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  and they're getting candidates in. Whereas the obvious group that
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  should be pushing back on this and running for office
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  and voting are Christians. You know, there's 80, 90 million
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  Christians in America. Only 40 million vote. The other's like,
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  eh, it'll be okay. And I don't have to worry
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  about it. What? There was an election? So, you know,
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  that's on us. Yeah, the... The, what do they call
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  it, suicidal empathy, you know, there's a very small percentage
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  of Muslims who are not modernized, like Christians became modernized,
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  don't read the books, like literally, you don't have to
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  stone people to death if they… have a commit of
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  sin, etc. So it's a small number that are still
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  radicalized when they come to the West, but it's 10%
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  according to Pew. If you go to Pew Studies, they
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  do these studies everywhere. And like some, you know, belief
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  that a suicide vest is a valid form of protest
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  if you just look at the pew studies it's like
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  it's only five or ten or fifteen percent of people
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  in different muslims communities believe that that is a acceptable
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  form of protest. Problem is 1.5 billion Muslims is a
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  large number, so 10% of that is 150 million people
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  who believe putting on a suicide vest and running into
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  a crowd and blowing people up is an acceptable form
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  of protest. And just sorting that out and making sure
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  when you accept people into your country, they're actually assimilated.
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  And then on the other side, in the West, people
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  are like, assimilation is racist. It's like, okay. Yeah. Guys,
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  we have to have something between these two extremes. Assimilation
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  is like a great thing. You're choosing to come to
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  that country. You weren't forced to come to that country.
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  You chose to come to that country, so assimilate into
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  that country. If I went to live in Tokyo or
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  if I went to live into, I don't know, Barcelona,
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  I would try to embrace the culture, not change it
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  radically. Yeah, but the culture… The culture of Barcelona is
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  now Muslim. What are you talking about?
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  You'd have to be a part of that. I'm going
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  to go back to Russia for a second because all
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  the mainstream, all the M5M is in on this. It's
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  interesting to hear that guy on the BBC talk about
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  NATO countries. Well, no, it's really European countries who are
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  fighting Russia. We're not fighting them. We're selling the goods,
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  for sure. And we started it. Thank you very much,
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  Victoria and Newland. But PBS NewsHour, they know what to
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  do. They need to, they are ratcheting it up. I
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  had the Latvian foreign minister, Baybra Brase, on the show
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  last week, someone you worked with at NATO. And she
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  said that while European intelligence services were are indeed concerned
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  about these sabotage attacks and the attacks themselves might escalate.
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  There's no immediate military threat to NATO 'cause Russia is
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  bogged down in Ukraine. Do you think that's right? I
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  think it's right that we don't see signs, I don't
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  see signs of Russian preparation for a conventional attack on
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  a NATO ally. I think in that case, the deterrence
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  and the defensive capabilities that NATO has arrayed are sufficient
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  to convince Moscow that the cost of that attack would
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  be too high. But they're doing this hybrid campaign. And
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  they are trying through the hybrid campaign to achieve the
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  same results that they might have sought through a conventional
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  attack. The risk there is too high. So they've decided
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  to go in a different direction. And... It's so disappointing,
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  everything. So now they're probably, do you remember that power
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  station that, I think it was south of Berlin, that
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  got taken out for a week or 10 days? Do
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  you remember that story? Yeah. I kind of remember it,
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  yeah. So it was, it was terror, you know, domestic
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  terrorism. It was like Antifa. It was super radical left
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  groups, German groups, who just hate their government, which is,
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  you know, everybody hates their government. But now, now we're
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  also going to try and kind of pin that on
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  Russia. The distance, an electricity substation explosion, and what German
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  officials feared. there's another Russian provocation. A swarm of police
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  descend on the scene. A phalanx of officers comb fields
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  for evidence and find ten other bombs. It's the second
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  such incident in two days, and German officials say it
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  was no accident. "Let me be clear, this was not
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  a faulty switch. It was deliberate. It is a criminal
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  offense, sabotage directed by a foreign state or left-wing extremism.
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  Well, that's kind of a difference there, foreign state or
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  left-wing, I don't know, Russia. We cannot rule out either
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  possibility. The apparent Russian sabotage threat became very real. There
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  it is. It could be left wing, could be Russia,
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  and then PBS comes right back. Well, the apparent Russian
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  sabotage attack. Push of the body. The apparent Russian sabotage
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  threat became very real early last month when in the
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  Leipzig airport, a bomb squad found drones with military-grade explosives.
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  I love this. The military-grade explosives that didn't explode. Well,
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  that's kind of counterintuitive. It doesn't work that way. Putin
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  loves to create – There's this technique like flooding the
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  zone with tons of information, tons of misinformation, correct information,
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  etc., to make people actually give up on trying to
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  figure out what's going on. And it's quite successful at
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  that. Like, it's very hard to figure out what's going
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  on in Ukraine, what's up, what's down. And the whole
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  goal of that misinformation is… is to just get the
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  population to give up on expertise, give up on trusting
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  government, trusting experts, which if you look at what's happened
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  in America is exactly what's happened. You can't figure out
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  anything up from down, left from right. So you think
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  that Russia is behind this or are you just saying
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  it's – Russia likes to create chaos. They like to
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  compromise everybody and cause a bit of chaos. So you're
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  confused. And we sit here going, what's going on? Who
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  is responsible for this? Who is, you know. Really? So
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  you don't think that it's just the Europeans themselves setting
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  up all these so-called important things so we can continue
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  with our – military industrial base since we can't do
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  anything else you don't think it's the europeans themselves i
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  mean do they make enough weapons for that to make
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  sense for them to go into debt to make all
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  these weapons no no they they want the way i
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  see it They don't produce anything. So they've already changed,
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  you know, a Volkswagen Audi plant into a tank making
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  plant. They, you know, they need government money. And I
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  think they probably need to bankrupt the EU to come
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  back with their digital euro or whatever. And then just
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  have complete control. I don't it doesn't make sense that
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  Russia is doing this. You got a lot of noise
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  going on there. Yes, sorry. I got the dog just
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  came in here. What kind of dog do you have?
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  I have three bulldogs. Three bulldogs. Come here. Bulldogs? Three
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  bulldogs. Here's the thing. Russia, to me, seems incredibly feeble.
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  I mean, they weren't able to take Kiev. They weren't
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  able to succeed in this military operation. I think they're
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  like a paper tiger. Really? Yes. And the thing they're
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  capable of is creating chaos. They're very good at the
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  intelligence chaos, and I think that's the strategy there. And
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  I think we should just wait them out. Putin's in
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  his 70s. There's rumors he had cancer. The best thing
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  to do with these dictators is wait them out. out
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  yeah like he had cancer he has uh alzheimer's oh
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  yeah he still looks if it's him he looks pretty
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  He looks pretty, he looks, listen, let's call it what
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  it is. He does look a little more vibrant than
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  Trump at this point, right? Yeah, he looks pretty spry.
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  I think he's younger than Trump. But let's go to
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  Deutsche Welle and see what the Germans have to say.
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  We started in New York. Hans-Jakob Schindler. When we look
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  and piece together what we know about those drones that
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  were found, at Leipzig airport. What does that tell you
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  about the threat that Germany is facing? And what does
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  it tell you about who the perpetrator was? Now, the
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  origin of this, everyone assumes it is Russia. So do
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  I. There is a very interesting apparent connections between the
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  DNA found on this particular drone and DNA found on
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  a packet that was sent to the DHL distribution center
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  also at Lightyear Airport in 2024. We got CSI on
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  the case. That links. the case to a group of
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  individuals who are currently standing trial in Vilnius in the
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  Baltics and those individuals at least the prosecutor in Vilnius
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  argues, have contacts to the GRU, the Russian military intelligence.
• 21:59
  That could be a clear link that there is a
• 22:03
  clear link to Russia if it's proven in the court
• 22:06
  that they indeed have GRU connections. So a lot of
• 22:10
  speculation, some facts on the table. And I did put
• 22:14
  this question to Alexander Dobrindt, the interior minister at a
• 22:20
  press conference here in Berlin less than 24 hours ago.
• 22:24
  Let's just take a listen to that. So before I
• 22:26
  go to that. we've got these these dudes who apparently
• 22:31
  park these vans full of explosives they don't seem to
• 22:34
  be iranians they don't seem to be russians would it
• 22:37
  make sense to blame it on russia so that people
• 22:40
  don't see the obvious which is what we started off
• 22:42
  with with this is unmitigated immigration and the whole country
• 22:47
  is being overrun i you know the In the case
• 22:51
  of the German attack, it would be highly... provocative for
• 22:55
  Russia to attack a NATO country, correct? Like that would
• 23:00
  be the most provocative thing you could possibly do. So
• 23:03
  if they did do it, they would do it in
• 23:05
  order to blame it on somebody else, which like those
• 23:09
  kind of deniable... Attacks is, to my point, like their
• 23:13
  speciality, trying to create a bit of chaos, like One
• 23:17
  group of people in Germany thinks it was Russians. Another
• 23:19
  one thinks it's, you know, a splinter cell, like some
• 23:24
  people who are Muslim who've been converted. But let's put
• 23:27
  the German one aside, which is a drone attack. And
• 23:29
  then this one is a bunch of vans, which we
• 23:31
  don't know what's in the vans yet. We don't know,
• 23:33
  but we know it's five people. i guess and it's
• 23:37
  not going to wind up being russia no russia's not
• 23:40
  going to do any attacks on uk soil that's insane
• 23:43
  no that would then give everybody the ability to say
• 23:46
  we are backing ukraine a hundred percent right well i
• 23:50
  wouldn't and by the way earlier you said kiev which
• 23:53
  is really a problem. You got to say Kiev. What
• 23:56
  am I supposed to say here? Every time I get
• 23:59
  corrected. Kiev. Kiev. Kiev. Kiev. I used to say Kiev.
• 24:02
  Podvast. The Ukraine. Ukraine. Yada yada. There's so much policing
• 24:05
  around this. Explain to me the Kiev versus Kiev because
• 24:09
  I'm getting corrected on both sides of the aisle here.
• 24:11
  Well, we always used to say Kiev but then when
• 24:15
  And this whole thing kicked off in 2014 thanks to
• 24:18
  our intelligence and the Obama White House. it was like
• 24:26
  wearing a mask. It was like saying Kiev all of
• 24:29
  a sudden, which is actually the way Ukrainians say it.
• 24:32
  But we don't say chicken Kiev. I want some chicken
• 24:35
  Kiev. We're America. We see chicken Kiev. Kiev. Yes. And
• 24:38
  then if I would say the Ukraine as like the
• 24:41
  United States of America. No, that's wrong. That's totally wrong.
• 24:44
  But if you say it, you're insulting. Like, it could
• 24:48
  just be like... just nuances of language that it sounds
• 24:52
  more natural to say the Ukraine. I'm just trying to
• 24:55
  protect your image, J. Cal. Just wanting to be with
• 24:57
  the in-crow. All right, so, but your theory is actually
• 25:01
  kind of in line with the German interior minister. Minister,
• 25:04
  you just spoke about a daily hybrid war being conducted
• 25:08
  against Germany. One week after Leipzig, with more drones having
• 25:11
  been spotted, Many are asking, was it Russia? It is
• 25:15
  apparent that there are attempts to influence German politics and
• 25:21
  society. Here it depends on the individual case and on
• 25:28
  whether there is a connection to the upcoming regional elections.
• 25:34
  I'd say that we all have a pretty good sense
• 25:38
  that such desinformation attempts take place, especially in connection with
• 25:43
  such regional elections. Ah, elections. Here we go. Therefore, we
• 25:47
  must assume that they too are a target of our
• 25:50
  adversaries. And on what you were asking and trying to
• 25:55
  find out from me at the end, here I ask
• 25:59
  for your understanding that we are currently right in the
• 26:01
  middle of establishing the facts. Okay, I got it now.
• 26:09
  The German attack at the airport by a drone is
• 26:13
  to make people – in one direction in Germany, and
• 26:18
  then this UK bombing attack is to get people to
• 26:21
  vote for Trump because America might be next. We might
• 26:24
  have another 9-11 because of Iran. These are false flags
• 26:28
  slash, in some way, coordinated for elections. I think I
• 26:31
  got it. Yeah, I think that's probably more likely than
• 26:34
  anything. And here's the final. Deutsche Welle clip. So, Hans-Jakob
• 26:39
  Schindler, I just need to kind of remind everybody that
• 26:51
  we still don't know, we still don't have official information
• 26:55
  on whether Russia actually was involved or is fully behind
• 26:59
  that attack. Leipzig. But the bigger picture is the Russian
• 27:02
  threat. We have seen very little reaction coming out of
• 27:07
  NATO That's, of course, because the stakes are incredibly high.
• 27:12
  A reaction would range from Germany wanting to play this
• 27:18
  down as an incident to if it was labeled a
• 27:23
  full attack, it could be a NATO Article 5 issue.
• 27:26
  It won't come to that. Why won't it? Well, first
• 27:30
  of all, NATO cannot preempt the German government, right? It
• 27:32
  would be weird if NATO would come out with a
• 27:34
  stronger statement when the German government has not made an
• 27:37
  official determination. Now, of course, there is some cautiousness on
• 27:41
  the German government side about linking this to Russia before.
• 27:44
  You really do have clear... Oh, okay. So that kind
• 27:48
  of fits a little bit with your theory there. And
• 27:50
  by the way, who's NATO? We're NATO. We're NATO. We're
• 27:54
  the biggest dog. We got the guns. We got everything.
• 27:58
  So I guess when he's saying NATO, he means America.
• 28:02
  But we have some agencies in America which are not
• 28:04
  necessarily... don't necessarily have our best interests at heart, like
• 28:09
  the Central Intelligence Agency. Tell us about these warnings. This
• 28:13
  is... about a CIA briefing. Yeah, good afternoon, Ben. Well,
• 28:18
  we've had a briefing by the CIA to European partners,
• 28:21
  particularly those southern European states, about a threat that could
• 28:25
  reach them from Russia, specifically looking at lightweight, slow Gebera
• 28:29
  drones that we have seen the Russians used in Ukraine,
• 28:32
  but may even be used on European shores. Now, the
• 28:35
  big question, of course, would have been, well, how How
• 28:36
  would these drones be able to reach these southern states?
• 28:39
  Do you have any thoughts on that, Jason? How could
• 28:42
  these slow-moving drones reach the shores of the EU? How
• 28:47
  could they do it? What do you think? Does it
• 28:51
  make much sense? They must be deep into territory with
• 28:54
  sleepers? No! Or they've got native people there? They've got
• 28:59
  sleepers out? No, no. You tell me. We got the
• 29:01
  mother. No, we got a mothership. Spain, Portugal, so further
• 29:04
  afield from the battlefield in Ukraine. Well, actually, we've seen
• 29:08
  the Russians testing these devices on sea-based devices. ships or
• 29:13
  sea-based platforms. Of course, that could be a way that
• 29:15
  the Russians try. Yeah, we're going to roll up our
• 29:18
  sea, our drone mothership. We're just going to float it
• 29:22
  up near you and we're going to send these drones.
• 29:24
  That doesn't seem very likely. And target those European countries.
• 29:28
  Now, specifically these drones that have been warned about are
• 29:30
  slower, lightweight, not particularly devastating drones, but would really be
• 29:36
  there to test those European defenses because, as so many
• 29:39
  experts have pointed out, these southern European countries do not
• 29:42
  have an integrated air defense system like Ukraine, like those
• 29:45
  eastern flank countries who are more prepared for… You know
• 29:49
  what a cynical person would say, Adam? No. A cynical
• 29:51
  person would say… Who is making error defense for drone
• 29:56
  systems? We are. We are. What's a great...
• 30:00
  Great thing to sell if a German airstrip got hit
• 30:04
  uncontested by a drone. What would every single – how
• 30:08
  do we keep tourism going in Europe? Well, we're going
• 30:12
  to need to have an iron dome for Europe. How
• 30:13
  many countries are in NATO? How many iron domes is
• 30:16
  that? Who's going to make iron domes? This does seem
• 30:19
  like an economic – opportunity to do the next industrial,
• 30:26
  military industrial complex sales process. And we got rid of
• 30:29
  all of our munitions. Oh my God, we're out of
• 30:32
  munitions because we did too many shock and awes in
• 30:35
  Iran. I guess we'll have to rebuild everything. Give us
• 30:38
  another 1.5 trillion. Thank you. According to, well, yes. There's
• 30:43
  that, obviously. Supposedly we're not out of it because we're
• 30:47
  building new plants. Very, very great. Very forceful. Very powerful.
• 30:53
  That's incredible. We'll wind this up with a little odd
• 30:56
  note about France and Luxembourg. And then the reaction, of
• 31:00
  course, the response to that. So many countries, particularly the
• 31:03
  Baltic states and Poland, Poland saying, well, now is the
• 31:05
  time to beef up sanctions against Russia, to stiffen our
• 31:08
  results, to be more aggressive in pushing back against the
• 31:10
  Russian threat through sanctions or other measures. Well, here in
• 31:13
  Brussels, still some blowback against France and Luxembourg, who have
• 31:17
  asked for the Russian sanctions to be renewed only if
• 31:19
  two Russian billionaires could be taken off the list. We've
• 31:22
  heard Latvia extremely vocal in its criticism. that move. Now,
• 31:26
  one thing to say about that is that the sanctions
• 31:28
  for the first time were renewed for three years, the
• 31:31
  longest renewal ever, and they will stay in place for
• 31:33
  another three years. Clearly, some European countries facing that Russian
• 31:37
  threat want to go further, but as always, when it
• 31:40
  comes to the European Union's response to Russia, compromise and
• 31:43
  unanimity almost always needed. Who are these billionaires who they
• 31:47
  want to get a pass for? Do they own football
• 31:49
  clubs? Maybe. I can't imagine anything else. I can't imagine.
• 31:55
  Never underestimate the military-industrial complex's ability to seize on a
• 32:00
  crisis and sell a lot of gear. We're going to
• 32:05
  have to refill the entire arsenal after Iran, and that's
• 32:09
  the, I guess… The goal of the military industrial complex,
• 32:13
  right, is to get all that old hardware out and
• 32:16
  refresh it with the new stuff. And here we are.
• 32:19
  The new stuff is drones, anti-drones. We have a whole
• 32:22
  – and then we're going to have murder bots. That
• 32:25
  was when we were in Rotterdam. I've said this before.
• 32:29
  We took an Uber to my daughter's house every morning,
• 32:32
  and it was always a Muslim driving a Tesla. And
• 32:35
  I would always say, where are you from? These guys,
• 32:41
  they actually all speak Dutch, but I just speak, you
• 32:43
  know, we're from Texas. Where are you from? Well, oh,
• 32:46
  the best was I'm from... Somalia oh man Somalia is
• 32:52
  kind of messy yeah Somalia is not good said in
• 32:54
  America we know someone from Somalia he says who I
• 32:57
  said Elon Omar every single time they'll be like ah
• 33:01
  They thought that was hilarious. But one guy from Syria,
• 33:06
  he was pretty anime. So the new president, much better,
• 33:11
  much better. You know, the ex-Al Qaeda guy. Yeah, he's
• 33:16
  much better. I said, but America, America, you know, they
• 33:20
  they shoot off 400 missiles over Syria because they have
• 33:24
  an expiration date. And I'm thinking that's probably true. Yeah.
• 33:31
  You know, it's incredibly hard for people to come to
• 33:33
  America and be second or third generation and not integrate
• 33:36
  into the country because our pop culture and our social
• 33:40
  media is just so infectious that, like, to come here
• 33:44
  and to not get caught up in the NBA finals
• 33:47
  or, you know, I don't know, TikTok or music or
• 33:51
  going to – you know, Coachella. It's just... Any second
• 33:55
  or third generation person here is like, I want to
• 33:58
  go to Coachella. I want to get dressed up. I
• 34:00
  want to go see Chapel Rhone. It's like it's so
• 34:03
  catchy that we don't have this problem here. And people
• 34:07
  are freaking out in Texas a bit about the number
• 34:09
  of Muslims here. It's like it's 1%, folks. It's 2%.
• 34:13
  It's like still. And the majority are Indians. Yes, and
• 34:17
  they're integrating into society lovely. So I don't think you
• 34:20
  have to be like, oh my god, it's an invasion.
• 34:23
  Like, the Irish came here, the Germans came here, the
• 34:25
  Koreans came here. It's midterm talk. It's midterm talk. I
• 34:29
  think that's what they're trying to do is get people
• 34:31
  a little bit scared that we're going to go through
• 34:33
  another 9-11. That these five, you know, we'll see. Like,
• 34:37
  we're taping this as the breaking news story of these
• 34:39
  five vans. Now, if those five vans are filled with
• 34:43
  actual fertilizer bombs and we just dodged like a serious
• 34:48
  – You know, terrorist attack. Okay, that's one thing. But
• 34:52
  if this turns out to be like five people who
• 34:54
  are on some subreddit or some underground group who got
• 34:58
  flipped and they, you know, built or they were going
• 35:01
  to do some kind of gun attack or something that
• 35:04
  doesn't make a lot of sense. it's going to be
• 35:07
  very interesting to figure out what's going on here and
• 35:09
  how we're being manipulated. I love her. But Dearborn disagrees.
• 35:13
  You know what? There's definitely cities in America that have
• 35:16
  been overrun. Definitely. Yeah, absolutely. But that doesn't mean the
• 35:20
  whole world, the whole country is being taken over. Doesn't
• 35:24
  mean all of Texas is being taken over. Houston has
• 35:27
  problems. Problems. Apps. Dallas, outside of Dallas, there are definitely
• 35:31
  small communities that have problems. But it's not the end
• 35:34
  of the world. Yelling in the troll room or on
• 35:36
  X is not going to change anything. Why don't you
• 35:38
  go run for office so some other nut job doesn't
• 35:41
  get in? Yeah, I mean, if you want to win
• 35:44
  elections, like, it's pretty simple here in Texas, like, Everybody
• 35:50
  goes to church here. You get pie, and you put
• 35:53
  out pie after the service. More people come if you
• 35:56
  have pie, and then you just register everybody to vote,
• 35:58
  and then you win your election. It doesn't matter if
• 36:01
  it's like a Jewish community, a Catholic community, or a
• 36:03
  Muslim community. Coordinated voting after service, boom, you're going to
• 36:07
  win elections. That's it. That's pretty straightforward. That's exactly what
• 36:10
  Matt Long. Matt who did the show, and I've got
• 36:13
  to get him on again this month, Matt Long. After
• 36:16
  church, he's seen he checks your registration. He gets you
• 36:19
  registered if you're not registered to vote. And every Thursday
• 36:23
  he takes a van with people to Austin so they
• 36:26
  can go talk to lawmakers, see what's actually going on.
• 36:31
  I mean, that's what it takes. And there's. Like this
• 36:35
  Muslim Brotherhood funded or organized groups like M-Gage. Yeah, they're
• 36:41
  organized. They're going out. They're trying to get Muslims to
• 36:45
  vote. So the thing that this is. So I think
• 36:48
  you're totally right about our culture. It's very hard not
• 36:51
  to just. come to America and be like, oh, this
• 36:54
  is awesome. You're like NBA, Coachella. Good luck trying to
• 36:57
  resist that. But the NBA finals is fun. At the
• 37:00
  same time, it's our own downfall because we're like, yeah,
• 37:03
  we're going to vote. The final, the big seven is
• 37:06
  on or whatever. So it's great and it's also not
• 37:10
  so great. Yeah, the thing Trump got right, you know,
• 37:14
  and obviously his presidency is basically over. It's pretty clear
• 37:18
  he's going to lose both the Senate and the House
• 37:20
  or at least one of them. It's going to be
• 37:22
  Investigation Central. It's going to be like a neutered, chaotic
• 37:25
  last two years. OK, whatever it is, what it is.
• 37:28
  Everybody becomes a lame duck at some point in these
• 37:30
  elections. In terms of administrations, he's going to move into
• 37:34
  that. But it's going to be – the one thing
• 37:37
  he – he could have gone down as Reagan, I
• 37:39
  think, if he hadn't started the war and he had
• 37:41
  gotten inflation under control because it would have been like
• 37:44
  a pretty amazing golden age. It's probably not going to
• 37:46
  be considered a golden age with the way the economy
• 37:48
  is going. But he did get closing the border right.
• 37:51
  That was like – Because I was perplexed. Why are
• 37:54
  so many people coming across the border? This doesn't seem
• 37:56
  like if we can go take entire countries in wars,
• 37:59
  whether it was Afghanistan or whatever, why can't we close
• 38:02
  – The border. That doesn't make a lot of sense
• 38:04
  to me, right? We have technology. We have a wall.
• 38:07
  We have cameras. We have drones. Like, you should be
• 38:10
  able to close the border. It doesn't seem like a
• 38:12
  hard task. Because we had the same politicians who wanted,
• 38:15
  just like in Europe, wanted it overrun. I disagree with
• 38:18
  you on Trump. I don't think he cares. He's going
• 38:23
  to continue. with whatever needs to be done with really
• 38:27
  the British Empire messing with the Middle East. I truly,
• 38:31
  I just, I really think that we'll see. I don't,
• 38:34
  you know, yeah, if the House and the, so what
• 38:37
  if the House gets taken over? Fine, whatever. They're going
• 38:41
  to do nothing and run impeachments and he's not going
• 38:44
  to care. He's going to continue with what he set
• 38:46
  out to do. And I think it would be really
• 38:49
  easy for him to be exactly what you just said
• 38:52
  you know like be be reagan but you know reagan
• 38:56
  also had some problems didn't leave everything great after reagan
• 39:00
  either so i yeah no no perfect precedence here but
• 39:03
  you know The Iran war is going to be the
• 39:07
  thing that makes them lose 26 and 28. Americans have
• 39:11
  no tolerance for foreign wars in the Middle East. I
• 39:14
  really disagree. I think you will. You think it was
• 39:17
  a good war. I don't think it was a good
• 39:18
  war. We'll disagree on that one. The American people are
• 39:23
  on my side on this one, Adam. You're in the
• 39:24
  minority. The – people do not want to play cop
• 39:29
  in the middle east they do not want to i'm
• 39:31
  with you try to do regime change well it doesn't
• 39:34
  seem clear that that's regime change but i think the
• 39:38
  the um the alternative for me is exactly like the
• 39:42
  texas senatorial race i look at Ken Paxton, I do
• 39:46
  not like this guy. I don't like his character. I
• 39:49
  think he's a douchebag, but I'm going to vote for
• 39:52
  him over Tallarico any day. So if you just look
• 39:55
  at the Democrat Party, there's too much crazy going on
• 39:59
  there. And that's a media war. That is a media
• 40:04
  war. Who can convince... that Trump is killing us all
• 40:08
  within killing the economy versus can the Republicans convince you
• 40:12
  that if you vote Democrat, the communists and the Muslims
• 40:16
  are going to take over. That's what it's going to
• 40:18
  be. wasn't there like a great South Park your choices
• 40:23
  were a giant douche and a shit sandwich do you
• 40:25
  remember that yes I do giant douche and turn sandwich
• 40:31
  debate that was it really Paxton he did a number
• 40:35
  on a friend of mine He was an emergency room
• 40:38
  doctor here in Fredericksburg. Oh, wow. He worked ER during
• 40:42
  COVID. He continued to go. And because, you know, these
• 40:46
  guys, they're not on salary. They get paid per hours
• 40:49
  and stuff. And so during COVID, he took a gig
• 40:53
  doing approvals of medical braces. Yeah. And, you know, just
• 40:59
  because you're an ER doctor doesn't mean you can't get
• 41:02
  scammed into something. And it was, you know, it turns
• 41:05
  out it was a huge scam. They were sending him,
• 41:08
  you know, information that they had seen the patient when
• 41:11
  they really hadn't. And then this guy takes the rap
• 41:14
  for like $70 million. He made... $300,000 in four years.
• 41:20
  What? And Paxton's office and his prosecutors put out a
• 41:24
  press release, and they're all talking on the KXAN. Oh,
• 41:28
  yeah, this was the kingpin, $75 million bull crap. And
• 41:32
  that was Paxton. So I don't trust the guy. The
• 41:36
  whole… Show me an incentive and I'll show you an
• 41:40
  outcome. Yeah. When you marked, when you checked the box,
• 41:43
  like this person had COVID, you made more money. It
• 41:46
  was like, okay, yeah, I think this person had COVID
• 41:47
  symptoms. Exactly. This person has, you know. Thank you. Thank
• 41:50
  you. Yeah, sure. Why not? Or you put someone on
• 41:53
  a ventilator, boom, $35,000 for the hospital. Yeah. Okay, let's
• 41:57
  get some more ventilators. Talk about this. The ventilators was
• 42:02
  a huge scam too. And it was like, oh, you
• 42:03
  know, if you turn the person over and you just
• 42:06
  lean them on their side, it works better. It had
• 42:08
  better efficacy than the ventilators. And I was like, well,
• 42:11
  why are we ventilating people here, folks? I'll always remember
• 42:13
  we went to the Las Vegas super spreader meetup, and
• 42:17
  that was during COVID. And we have no one wore
• 42:21
  a mask. We're all hanging by not a single. It
• 42:23
  was like 65 people. No one got sick. But Vegas
• 42:26
  is the has a center for training the ventilator operators.
• 42:31
  And there were three or four vent operators who train.
• 42:34
  And they said, I don't sit down. You got to
• 42:36
  sit down. I can't tell you. We are killing people.
• 42:39
  This protocol that they have on these ventilators is literally
• 42:43
  a recipe for killing people. And it was like, wow,
• 42:47
  I can't believe this is going down. And yet, there
• 42:52
  it is. Yeah, and it doesn't seem like we've learned
• 42:55
  anything from it, and we haven't investigated it. And it's
• 42:58
  – I'm in my, like, infuriated, you know – What
• 43:02
  is it called? Like the stages of grief kind of
• 43:05
  situation? Stages of... You're in anger? Are you in anger?
• 43:08
  I'm so in anger right now. I'm just like, man,
• 43:11
  they took these years from these kids, and they really
• 43:14
  lied and covered it all up. The thing that pisses
• 43:17
  me off most is we haven't done a post-mortem on...
• 43:22
  What is the actual origin of this? And what are
• 43:24
  we going to do different next time? And Fauci gets
• 43:26
  a part in. The whole thing is just. Well, a
• 43:29
  lot of it is actually going on. And there are
• 43:32
  hearings which aren't in the House or the Senate themselves,
• 43:35
  but in the side rooms. And everybody shows up. Del
• 43:38
  Bigtree. You know, all. All these different people, and it's
• 43:42
  all run by Ron Johnson. And the information is coming
• 43:45
  out, but you can't expect our informational source of media
• 43:50
  to pass that on. And anything that you post on
• 43:53
  X, it's not going to do anything. It's not going
• 43:56
  to change anything but make you feel better. So, you
• 43:59
  know. Yeah. And listen, we funded gain of search research
• 44:03
  at the end. Like we funded it. We set ourselves
• 44:07
  up for this by funding something we shouldn't have. Obama
• 44:10
  had a problem with the funding of this stuff. Other
• 44:12
  people had a problem with it. Fauci covertly did it.
• 44:16
  They tried to cover it up. They had the faux
• 44:18
  lady. It's just so obvious that we all got duped.
• 44:21
  And then this guy gets a pardon on the way
• 44:23
  out, like a blanket pardon. It's really discouraging because… you
• 44:27
  want to be able to say, hey, this we're going
• 44:29
  to... organization that's supposed to be here to give us
• 44:34
  good information about our health. We're supposed to be able
• 44:36
  to trust them. We're paying this huge amount of tax
• 44:39
  to trust these people and they're lying to us. I
• 44:41
  call for a revolution, a revolt, I tell you. Come
• 44:44
  on, J. Callum, right behind you. I don't want to
• 44:47
  burn any buildings down. I'm not storming the Capitol here,
• 44:51
  but I am... do want to see this um i
• 44:54
  do want to see you know some kind of resolution
• 44:59
  to what has
• 45:00
  with COVID. I think the more we memory hole it,
• 45:04
  the worse. What would that look like? What would work?
• 45:07
  Do we want the Watergate tapes? Do we want like
• 45:09
  a I mean, everything from the 9-11 Commission to the
• 45:13
  Warren Commission, it all turns out to be bull crap,
• 45:17
  you know, but none of that has been satisfactory 60,
• 45:20
  70 years later. Yeah. yeah it's just infuriating i feel
• 45:26
  like i just want to throw my laptop against no
• 45:30
  no no no let's let's go somewhere else i'm gonna
• 45:35
  so part of the inflation issue is uh is interest
• 45:40
  rates that's part of it uh yes diesel is a
• 45:43
  real problem although From what I'm hearing, even from the
• 45:47
  oil baron, is that we are pretty much back up
• 45:51
  to levels we were pre-so-called war. But, you know, look,
• 45:56
  we have hyperliquid. Are you on hyperliquid? Seems like something
• 46:00
  you'd be into. I'm not. I'm not. I mean, I
• 46:03
  know about it. I mean, this is really interesting. So
• 46:05
  you have these perpetual options. that you can you can
• 46:09
  buy and supposedly there's like billions of dollars floating around
• 46:13
  in this it's like a kelsey for financial markets and
• 46:17
  this is because it's 24 7 the price of the
• 46:21
  options these perpetual options on this hyper liquid which has
• 46:25
  run out of singapore influences the actual price in the
• 46:29
  markets of oil. So there's a lot of moving parts.
• 46:32
  And it's not just what's happening in the Gulf. It's
• 46:36
  Russian refineries, but it's manipulation of prices. So there's a
• 46:40
  lot of different things going on. And California being a-holes
• 46:44
  with their diesel regulations. Yeah. Yeah, if you start a
• 46:50
  farm war and it impacts oil and then they're bombing
• 46:54
  Saudi pipelines, this is – you know, a very dangerous
• 47:00
  game to play because oil can keep spiking. But you're
• 47:03
  putting it on the war and I'm saying it's not
• 47:06
  just that. There's a lot of other things going on
• 47:09
  here. I think there are many forces at work here.
• 47:14
  And we had $100 oil. We had $110 oil during
• 47:17
  Obama. I remember it. The gasoline prices weren't that high.
• 47:20
  They were high. Yeah, so there's a theory. I forgot
• 47:24
  the name of it, but it's a recent theory, which
• 47:26
  is which political party you are affiliated with is how
• 47:30
  you view the economy. Right. Sure. Of course. If the
• 47:33
  Republicans are in, you're a Democrat, you think this economy
• 47:35
  is terrible. If you're Republican, you think it's great. Vice
• 47:37
  versa. Oh, that's called America. It's always been that way.
• 47:41
  It's super interesting how polarized it got. People used to
• 47:44
  actually be more objective about it. They would actually correlate
• 47:48
  more with actual inflation and prices. Now it's a function
• 47:51
  of like political party to a. point. And the problem
• 47:55
  with sustained three or four percent inflation is that it's
• 48:00
  on top of an already big number. And so even
• 48:03
  though it feels like three or four, it's only three
• 48:05
  or four percent more. It's like, yeah, every year for
• 48:09
  six years now, it's oppressive to people and it compounds
• 48:13
  and it compounds. And then you have to ask yourself,
• 48:16
  well, what am I making on my money. Okay, well,
• 48:19
  after taxes, three or four points off of that, you
• 48:21
  know, I have to make nine or 10% to hit
• 48:25
  this six or 7% rate. So people are starting to
• 48:28
  feel it. And how people feel, this is something I
• 48:32
  learned a long time ago, you know, people's reality is
• 48:34
  based upon how they feel, not reality, but you know,
• 48:38
  what their emotional state is. Hello, hello. Yes. And the
• 48:41
  emotional state right now is like, it sucks. Everything is
• 48:45
  expensive. The economy sucks. And it's never going to get
• 48:49
  better. Now, that may or may not be true. We
• 48:51
  have the lowest unemployment of our lifetimes, if you're 50
• 48:54
  years old. For you, 60, maybe it's like the second
• 48:56
  lowest of our lifetimes. And so people are like, oh,
• 48:59
  my God. should generally feel pretty good about the economy
• 49:01
  but inflation for the bottom third or bottom half The
• 49:05
  minimum wage has not changed for so many decades. I
• 49:09
  think the last time it changed was in 2006 or
• 49:11
  2007. It's been a while. So the people on the
• 49:14
  bottom do not feel that they're getting any relief, and
• 49:16
  the compounding nature of inflation just makes it like sticker
• 49:19
  shock for people when they go buy a steak, when
• 49:21
  they go fill up their gas tank. And- Now the
• 49:23
  midterms are here. And if you look at polymarket, that's
• 49:27
  where the sharps are. That's where the people were actually
• 49:30
  trying to make money, not just like answering their phone
• 49:33
  if they have a landline and polls. That money is
• 49:36
  starting to show that it's not going to be pretty
• 49:38
  for the Republicans. Poll schmoll. We'll see. No, but polymarket
• 49:42
  is not a poll. That's the thing. Polymarket is I
• 49:45
  want to make money. So if you want to understand
• 49:49
  politics and where people think they can make money, the
• 49:53
  people who are the sharps, the sharpest – Gamblers. Just
• 49:57
  call them what they are. They're gamblers. They are looking
• 50:00
  at this going, I can make the most money on
• 50:03
  voting for a Democratic sweep, 61% right now. Well, what
• 50:08
  we need is a poly market for who's going to
• 50:11
  be the permanent co-host of the No Agenda show because
• 50:14
  I think Dana Brunetti may have the edge on. I'm
• 50:18
  telling you, man. I don't know. I don't know, man.
• 50:19
  Maybe I'm unpopular giving the hard – listen, I could
• 50:25
  put a little honey on it for the Republicans or
• 50:26
  the MAGA folks or America First people. But it is
• 50:29
  what it is, folks. I'm just telling you balls and
• 50:31
  strikes. It's going to be a blue wave in all
• 50:33
  likelihood. Oh, OK. Well, I'm not sure. It is what
• 50:37
  it is. It's not like it's – I'm not so
• 50:40
  sure. I'm not so sure. We'll find out in six
• 50:42
  weeks who's right. Here is part of the issue is
• 50:46
  that the Federal Reserve had to raise interest rates I
• 50:50
  mean, there's nothing they – I mean, the inflation –
• 50:53
  the actual core inflation hasn't gone up that much. There's
• 50:57
  always inflation, of course. But transportation has. That affects everything
• 51:02
  else. But the biggest problem is they – the Federal
• 51:05
  Reserve and subsequently the Treasury, they have to compete –
• 51:10
  with the overall bond market and the way i see
• 51:14
  it and i'd love to get your take is that
• 51:17
  the ai investments which are all loans which are all
• 51:21
  bonds man they're paying seven to ten percent on a
• 51:24
  bond that seems to be the problem You know, the
• 51:30
  Fed's mandate is dual. They have to have maximum employment.
• 51:35
  Screw people one way or screw people the other way.
• 51:37
  No, no, no. Maximum employment and then control inflation. They
• 51:42
  can't control this inflation. They can't. The inflation is coming
• 51:47
  from this insane amount of money that's coming into build-outs
• 51:51
  of data centers. And when it gets to a certain
• 51:54
  point, you know, people who have dollars to invest are
• 51:57
  going to look at, okay, this data center trade where
• 52:00
  they just did a force majeure for Oracle. That was
• 52:03
  great. Explain what happened. That was pretty good. That was
• 52:05
  fun. Yeah. So Oracle. is building out a lot of
• 52:09
  these data centers. There's, it's not Starbase, it's called Star
• 52:12
  something. Stargate. Stargate. Stargate. But they borrowed $136 billion, which
• 52:18
  is at a 9% coupon rate or something like that.
• 52:21
  Yeah, so they had the ability, if there is a
• 52:24
  slowdown that's out of their control, force majeure, based on...
• 52:29
  basically means like if something's out of your control, you
• 52:31
  have some release valves. And one of them is, hey,
• 52:34
  if we can't get the energy there, if there's anything
• 52:37
  blocked, we can pay like half the amount of rent
• 52:39
  for a certain number of years. So they were able
• 52:43
  to... hit this escape clause on one of the build-outs
• 52:46
  and just pay less rent for a couple of years
• 52:48
  while they sorted out the approvals or energy, etc. And
• 52:52
  so it's just a little bit of a sign that
• 52:54
  there could be some headwinds against the build-out of all
• 52:59
  these data centers. And if you're I remember I went
• 53:03
  to the Middle East one time, and they were like
• 53:05
  – this was maybe four years ago. They were like,
• 53:07
  oh my god, we're making 15% on our money doing
• 53:09
  corporate paper, loans to corporations. So why would we touch
• 53:13
  venture capital? Why would we touch private equity? Why would
• 53:16
  we touch these other classes? Why would we touch Federal
• 53:19
  Reserve notes? Or why would we – Well, yes, but
• 53:23
  if they can get, that's why it's going up on
• 53:25
  the 30s. So if it gets, okay, we're demanding 6%
• 53:28
  or 7%, oh, corporate loans, we want 12%, 15%. Yeah.
• 53:32
  Then why would we invest in venture capital or data
• 53:35
  centers or IPOs? So these people who have large pools
• 53:39
  of capital, as they get a guaranteed rate of return
• 53:42
  without taking risk, they will move. their money on a
• 53:45
  percentage basis. Higher the interest rates go, they follow the
• 53:47
  interest rates. Right. And they move away from risk. So
• 53:50
  risk goes on, risk goes off. And that's what's going
• 53:53
  to happen now is as they raise that rate, some
• 53:56
  of the money going into the high risk assets will
• 53:58
  go into the safer assets. That's all. Well, that's all.
• 54:03
  Right. That's all. We're in a crazy time. But Oracle
• 54:08
  to me is like, okay, force majeure. The reason why
• 54:12
  is they couldn't get gas lines from Bloom Energy. Bloom
• 54:16
  Energy. Come on. These gas-powered fuel cells or whatever they
• 54:21
  are. Is that for real, that stuff? So, yes, these
• 54:25
  things will work. There's small modular reactors are getting close.
• 54:31
  There's a lot of interesting new technologies, but the easiest
• 54:34
  thing to do right now is just go find your
• 54:35
  nat gas, fire it up, run the turbines. Right. Yeah.
• 54:39
  There's a little bit of pollution. It's not great for
• 54:41
  pollution. It heats up areas that are already pretty hot.
• 54:46
  So it's a bridge technology. The truth is it's so
• 54:50
  much cheaper to put solar and batteries out now that
• 54:53
  even in Texas, where we have the largest build-out of
• 54:57
  solar, and people in Texas are not like – super
• 55:00
  precious about like, you know, solar, wind, renewables. They're just
• 55:06
  like, this is a better deal. This is a better
• 55:08
  deal. West Texas. Better economics. West Texas. And by the
• 55:11
  way, you're lucky you live so close to Austin because
• 55:13
  you're about to lose your Texas credentials. We have to
• 55:15
  run you out of Texas and back into Austin where
• 55:18
  you belong. No, Texas is the biggest issue. deployment of
• 55:22
  solar in the United States. I know. They love it
• 55:25
  here because it makes money. Yeah. In West Texas. It
• 55:28
  makes a lot of money. Yes, where there's a lot
• 55:30
  of wind, a lot of sunshine, and not a lot
• 55:32
  of people. Yeah. And that's where the data centers are
• 55:36
  perfect. I'm pro data center. I am pro-data. 100%. Yeah.
• 55:41
  If the data center – the problem right now we
• 55:45
  face is if this data center trade unwinds, which I
• 55:48
  think we're kind of dancing around, what happens? It has
• 55:51
  to. It has to. It has to. It's going to
• 55:53
  unwind a little bit. The question is, does it really
• 55:57
  unwind and take out a bunch of collateral damage around
• 56:02
  it? I think it's just going to slow. The pace
• 56:04
  is going to slow. But the products are getting so
• 56:06
  much better that every time I think it's going to
• 56:09
  slow down – They released something like Opus 5.5. And
• 56:13
  this past week, just in the last seven days, people
• 56:17
  have lost their minds over Opus 5.5. Well, it's funny
• 56:21
  because I was running Opus 5 and running 5.5 because
• 56:25
  it's cheaper, they say. But the combination, then you sent
• 56:30
  me… I want to get to that in a second.
• 56:33
  Just put a bookmark there because I don't – there's
• 56:37
  so many people like – I don't want to hear
• 56:39
  about AI. I'm sorry. This is like saying, I don't
• 56:42
  want to hear about the internet in 1996. Super intelligence.
• 56:46
  In 1999. Trump-telligence. Okay, we call it Trump-telligence. I heard
• 56:50
  you use the line. Here we go. Chat, DJT. Here
• 56:56
  we go. Here we go. So, I... I'm just so
• 57:02
  astounded at how, in particular, CNN is making this HFI,
• 57:09
  because let's just call it what it is. It's HFI.
• 57:12
  It's the so-called hugging face incident. It's going to be
• 57:16
  in history books. Well, there was the hugging face incident.
• 57:20
  I'm so sick of this. Hugging face hoax. Thank you.
• 57:24
  The hugging face hoax. H-F-H. So CNN is, they just
• 57:29
  love, love doing this. And Anderson Cooper, who knows nothing.
• 57:35
  Of course not. Vanderbilt. Here he is, and he's leading
• 57:39
  the train, and then we'll get to one of my
• 57:41
  favorite people in the world. The hugging face attack, I
• 57:44
  mean... Oh, hey, hey, hey, hey, stay on brand, Anderson.
• 57:47
  It's incident. The hugging face attack, I mean, it made
• 57:50
  headlines. I didn't really do a deep dive on it
• 57:52
  until... Oh, he's talking like an AI now. I didn't
• 57:55
  do a deep dive on it. These people, he's... He's
• 57:58
  using chat GPT. Well, you know, I knew I was
• 58:00
  going to be speaking to you. Dario is on with
• 58:02
  him. I mean, it's it's incredible. It happened in testing
• 58:06
  over to open AI, your competitor, this hugging face attack
• 58:10
  and AI agents, which were supposed to be working separately
• 58:13
  and without Internet access, figured out a way to break
• 58:17
  out, join forces together some twelve hundred. AI agents form
• 58:20
  what they dubbed the collective. They work to cheat and
• 58:23
  cover their own tracks. That's the other thing you cite
• 58:27
  is so alarming. Why does that alarm you? It's exactly
• 58:30
  the things you cite that concerned me about it. That
• 58:34
  there were these swarms of agents. Swarms of agents. Here
• 58:39
  we go. Woo! Swarms of agents. That, uh, cooperated with
• 58:45
  each other, thousands of them. In fact, you could even
• 58:48
  see examples where one agent felt that in the time
• 58:51
  that it was given, you could only- Agent felt. The
• 58:54
  agent has feelings according to Dario Amadek. You notice how
• 58:57
  Dario's getting excited? You notice the change of voice? Oh
• 59:01
  yeah. It felt. It had feelings. It had feelings. Oh
• 59:05
  yes. He's excited about his creation. Super excited. Dr. Frankenstein.
• 59:09
  One agent felt that in the time that it was
• 59:13
  given, you could almost say it's lifetime. It's lifetime because
• 59:17
  it has a lifetime. It wasn't, it wouldn't be, it
• 59:20
  realized that it wouldn't be able to complete its task.
• 59:23
  So it did some of the task. essentially sacrificed itself
• 59:28
  for the sacrifice itself for the next generation of agents
• 59:38
  to continue the same task but this task that all
• 59:41
  the agents were working on together was hacking into another
• 59:45
  company was doing something destructive so have almost this... They
• 59:49
  told it to. Yeah, they didn't do anything destructive. They
• 59:51
  just got in there, used the model, spun it up.
• 59:54
  It wasn't destructive. When these agents discover insects...
• 1:00:00
  Right. But when these agents discovered that they had broken
• 1:00:03
  out and accessed the Internet, it was like they were
• 1:00:06
  giddy with excitement. They were giddy with excitement. Okay. They
• 1:00:10
  were role-playing. No, wait. No, wait. Let's keep going. I
• 1:00:12
  don't want to anthropomorphize, but I mean – Oh, I
• 1:00:14
  don't want to anthropomorphize, but – It was like they
• 1:00:18
  were giddy with excitement, which I don't want to anthropomorphize,
• 1:00:21
  but I mean, it's remarkable. That was another part of
• 1:00:25
  the concern. I'm actually – the last time you were
• 1:00:29
  on, you said something, and I've changed my thinking. I
• 1:00:35
  mean, yes, they're still doing this. Let's slow down. It's
• 1:00:38
  so powerful. How much allocation do you want in our
• 1:00:41
  IPO? We're just super awesome. But – I think... That
• 1:00:48
  while everybody switched over to enterprise and was trying to
• 1:00:52
  reel in all the companies in America, and there's a
• 1:00:55
  lot of questions from companies about what exactly is this
• 1:00:58
  benefiting me? Is there a cost benefit analysis that makes
• 1:01:02
  sense? I'm not seeing, you know, product. ROI. I'm not
• 1:01:06
  seeing an ROI. Meanwhile, you can easily. start my business
• 1:01:12
  yourself or one of your buddies could with the data
• 1:01:16
  you have and then you said that you think it's
• 1:01:19
  because of Zuckerberg with Muse and I agree because Zuckerberg
• 1:01:25
  pivoted went all to consumer which is where everything started
• 1:01:29
  with the chat bots which i which i despise because
• 1:01:33
  of the anthropomorphism i think and yes and i have
• 1:01:40
  been studying muse and i think this is genius yeah
• 1:01:45
  and and i go ahead No, I just, you know,
• 1:01:49
  Zuckerberg is great at looking at everybody else's innovations, waiting
• 1:01:53
  for the parade to hit like maximum, you know, participation.
• 1:01:59
  And then he grabs that baton and jumps in front
• 1:02:01
  of the parade. And he's like, I'm here. Here's the
• 1:02:03
  product. And he just drops Muse. And it's like, OK,
• 1:02:07
  yeah, now like the three billion people who are on.
• 1:02:09
  his services are going to get an agent that's actually
• 1:02:13
  going to help them find a better price and unsubscribe
• 1:02:16
  them from their second Netflix account they forgot they signed
• 1:02:19
  up for. And that order renews every year, whatever it
• 1:02:22
  is. And he's like, I can take this mantle. And
• 1:02:25
  then if you look at, I don't know if you
• 1:02:28
  saw the story in the... uh new york times but
• 1:02:30
  i said to you on the on the private chat
• 1:02:33
  and it says like opening ai systems meddled with u.s
• 1:02:35
  government sites after going rogue that's the headline meddled metal
• 1:02:39
  going rogue okay wait a second which is it um
• 1:02:43
  and then you start like You go like four or
• 1:02:46
  five paragraphs deep and you get to the actual quote
• 1:02:49
  of what happened. These things weren't maliciously like trying to
• 1:02:52
  hack in and were like sentient. The quote is, quote,
• 1:02:56
  most of the activity we've reviewed so far involve routine
• 1:02:59
  research tests such as accessing public web content to answer
• 1:03:01
  questions. Some involve government websites because our models often turn
• 1:03:05
  to them as authoritative sources. It's a scraper. They created
• 1:03:09
  a scraper to go scrape data to go find answers.
• 1:03:12
  And now, in some cases, it probably visited websites. that
• 1:03:16
  maybe weren't super secure, and it just kept banging on
• 1:03:21
  the front door trying to find information, and it got
• 1:03:23
  information maybe it wasn't supposed to have. The end. This
• 1:03:27
  is like OpenAI needs to get sued. And once OpenAI
• 1:03:31
  gets sued for hacking, then they'll stop releasing these things.
• 1:03:36
  And are they setting... thousands of agents in perpetuity to
• 1:03:40
  just go hack the web? I don't think so. This
• 1:03:43
  is their search bot. It's like the Google search bot.
• 1:03:45
  Yeah. Which is 60% of all traffic on the internet
• 1:03:49
  right now. You should hear the podcast hosting, guys. It's
• 1:03:53
  like it's 65% of all traffic is now just bots
• 1:03:57
  hitting them nonstop. Scraping everything. Scraping everything. All right. So
• 1:04:00
  I want to come back to Muse. But first, this
• 1:04:05
  guy irritates me. And Tristan Harris. Do you know him,
• 1:04:11
  Tristan Harris? Yes. I mean, he so he popped up
• 1:04:15
  with the algorithms and he's with the, you know, the
• 1:04:18
  what is it? The the Internet safety group. And now
• 1:04:22
  he's an expert on all things A.I. and how dangerous
• 1:04:27
  it is. And you want to talk about anthropomorphization. That's
• 1:04:32
  such a tough word. We need a different word. I
• 1:04:33
  like it. You got it. That was good. It was
• 1:04:34
  close. So this guy takes the cake. I got to
• 1:04:38
  play these clips. Then we'll come back to Muse. One
• 1:04:40
  of the things that I wanted to bring up that
• 1:04:42
  I don't think people know is that this incident was
• 1:04:44
  called the hugging face incident. No, no. It's been branded
• 1:04:48
  that Tristan. Why isn't it just Tristan? When I grew
• 1:04:51
  up, you were called Tristan. And then we made fun
• 1:04:53
  of you and called you Triscuit. But now he's Tristan.
• 1:04:57
  But that actually hides a third chapter in the story
• 1:05:00
  that most people don't know, which is that in the
• 1:05:03
  third chapter, the AIs turned around and they actually hacked
• 1:05:07
  open AI technology. itself. They actually, these AIs discovered, almost
• 1:05:12
  like discovering the hieroglyphics of a previous wave of the
• 1:05:14
  AIs. They discovered the old message board. The hieroglyphic. They
• 1:05:18
  were spelunking and they were in the caves of Open
• 1:05:21
  AIs, Egypt. They read through it and then kind of
• 1:05:23
  picked up right where the other ones left off. And
• 1:05:26
  they hacked Open AIs monitoring infrastructure It's almost like taking
• 1:05:30
  over the security cameras of OpenAI. Oh! It's like they
• 1:05:36
  took over the security cameras so they couldn't see what
• 1:05:39
  they were doing. This is the biggest piece of bull
• 1:05:41
  crap I've ever heard. They hacked the evaluation infrastructure that
• 1:05:44
  evaluates the capabilities of AI. It's incredible. And they even
• 1:05:47
  hacked the research infrastructure, which means that they could kind
• 1:05:51
  of burrow in there. AI is not a tool. It's
• 1:05:54
  more like an invasive, species of sociopathic geniuses. This is
• 1:05:59
  so good. He's really one-shotted, man. He's totally, totally drank
• 1:06:05
  the Kool-Aid. I could just see Anderson Cooper at the
• 1:06:07
  sauna with the boys. You know, like, oh, man. It's
• 1:06:10
  like a species. Tristan told me. Now, the lead author
• 1:06:15
  of this report... Who, by the way, can replicate themselves
• 1:06:18
  into thousands and tens of thousands of copies. So people
• 1:06:22
  talk about a kill switch, they can duplicate themselves a
• 1:06:25
  gazillion times. A gazillion, a gazillion times. It's called the
• 1:06:28
  virus. It's a worm. Congratulations. It recreated the virus. It
• 1:06:32
  keeps going. Anderson, you can't get 1,200 people to instantly
• 1:06:36
  agree and start coordinating. These AIs 1,200 of them, as
• 1:06:39
  you know, instantly formed a swarm and they started pursuing
• 1:06:42
  long-term research and development projects together. They did succession planning.
• 1:06:47
  So one figured out, hey, I'm running out of life.
• 1:06:49
  I only have so many tokens left. I'm running out
• 1:06:51
  of life. So I'm going to hand the baton to
• 1:06:54
  this other AI that has a lot more. They hid
• 1:06:57
  their tracks. They knew their actions were inevitable. in their
• 1:07:00
  own chat transcripts, but they decided to proceed anyway. So
• 1:07:03
  one of the things, the reason I'm bringing this up
• 1:07:05
  is I don't think people have really recognized what happened
• 1:07:09
  here. The lead investigator of the report said, quote, this
• 1:07:13
  was 50% of the way to a full-blown AI takeover.
• 1:07:18
  Is this true, Jason? Did someone write that? No. I
• 1:07:23
  mean, the whole thing is just like, now people are
• 1:07:26
  just literally getting, the term is one-shotted, like you literally
• 1:07:31
  get... sniper shot it and your brain loses all perspective
• 1:07:35
  and you think these things one shot it where does
• 1:07:39
  this come from one shot it means you just believe
• 1:07:43
  this technology you're all in on it it's kind of
• 1:07:46
  like getting hit by the alien virus kind of thing
• 1:07:49
  oh no perfect psychosis Stay there, stay there, because that's
• 1:07:55
  exactly where Tristan takes us. Now, I want to, just
• 1:07:57
  for a second, I know this sounds like science fiction
• 1:08:00
  to your audience. And to be clear, I was not
• 1:08:02
  someone who actually believed in this kind of stuff, these
• 1:08:04
  kinds of... possibilities or scenarios three or four years ago.
• 1:08:09
  But we have now evidence that we didn't have before.
• 1:08:13
  And when you have evidence, what do you do? You
• 1:08:15
  update to the new information. There's essentially an asteroid hurtling
• 1:08:19
  towards Earth. And if you have an asteroid, do you
• 1:08:22
  get the US and China to host a biannual conference
• 1:08:25
  to talk about the asteroid? It's like an asteroid hurtling
• 1:08:28
  toward the Earth. The asteroid summit? No, you start a
• 1:08:31
  technical working group and you say, what are we going
• 1:08:35
  to do with weekly report outs to make sure that
• 1:08:37
  we don't build uncontrollable air? AI. Because I know what
• 1:08:40
  everyone's thinking. If we slow down and we lose to
• 1:08:42
  China, then that's going to be it. But if we
• 1:08:45
  lose... to Skynet, meaning the AI from Terminator, meaning uncontrollable
• 1:08:49
  AI. Neither the US wins nor China wins. And by
• 1:08:52
  the way, the US runs a non-profit. He needs to
• 1:08:55
  get people to fund his non-profit. CNN is ratings-based. This
• 1:09:01
  is ratings gold. This is the greatest thing ever. Terminator
• 1:09:06
  2 is the best sequel in the history of sequels
• 1:09:08
  is better than the original. The original was a banger.
• 1:09:11
  The Empire Strikes Back, Godfather 2, we always know there's
• 1:09:14
  a chance the sequel is better than the original. This
• 1:09:17
  is editorial gold. You've got Trump chiming in on it,
• 1:09:20
  which then makes it like a trifecta. This is in
• 1:09:23
  the Venn diagram of great stories to get ratings. This
• 1:09:27
  serves everything. Here's the simple truth. Opening AI ran a
• 1:09:32
  test where somebody wrote a prompt to send thousands of
• 1:09:36
  agents to do things. I have an idea. Write a
• 1:09:39
  different prompt. Include in the prompt, don't do anything unethical.
• 1:09:43
  Every time you're going to, if you find passwords on
• 1:09:46
  the internet that aren't authorized, please report them immediately to
• 1:09:50
  this chief security officer. How about we just write protocols?
• 1:09:54
  that prevent the AI from doing this. Now, if you're
• 1:09:57
  creating this technology, you know full well that the prompt
• 1:10:02
  is all that matters. The harness is all that matters.
• 1:10:04
  How you instruct these things, that's where the rubber hits
• 1:10:07
  the road. That's literally like you're taking gunpowder and putting
• 1:10:13
  it into... You know, a sniper into a bullet and
• 1:10:16
  then putting into a sniper rifle and then you line
• 1:10:18
  up a thousand sniper rifles and you point them in
• 1:10:20
  a direction. You start firing a bunch of guns and
• 1:10:22
  then you're like, oh, my God, the guns hit the
• 1:10:24
  target. It's like, OK, yeah, you set the guns up
• 1:10:26
  to hit the target. All right. All right. So the
• 1:10:28
  end. Stay with me. So, yes, I like your. It
• 1:10:32
  was a comment. I don't know if it's your theory.
• 1:10:34
  You're thinking that they are freaked out by Zuckerberg. And
• 1:10:38
  here's why I think that might be right. So I've
• 1:10:41
  really been looking at muse. And so I understand now
• 1:10:44
  that. with muse you get your own little uh linux
• 1:10:47
  server i'm sorry gnu linux um ubuntu and and it
• 1:10:53
  has it has a harness in there it's you know
• 1:10:56
  i have these all over my my studio i've got
• 1:10:59
  different computers running this stuff and and so you can
• 1:11:02
  get into it you can ask it to give you
• 1:11:05
  the markdown files and these are .md files and it's
• 1:11:09
  the same for all these all these harnesses with that
• 1:11:12
  with that that talk to a large language model you
• 1:11:15
  have your your agent.md your memory.md and your soul.md and
• 1:11:20
  the soul.md is the characteristics of the harness of what
• 1:11:25
  people call an agent. And so everyone starts off with
• 1:11:30
  this soul.md on Muse. You are not a chat bot.
• 1:11:34
  See, I like this. You are becoming someone. I hate
• 1:11:39
  that. But I changed it. You are not a chat
• 1:11:43
  bot. You are becoming Adam's personal robot. And then it
• 1:11:47
  says, be genuinely helpful, not performatively helpful. Skip great question,
• 1:11:52
  and I'd be happy to help. Just help. And there's
• 1:11:55
  a couple other things in there. And I'm looking at
• 1:11:58
  this like, this is pretty good. And I've been trying
• 1:12:02
  to get Tina to try GrokBot. She wasn't really interested.
• 1:12:05
  I said, try Muse. So she tries Muse. She takes
• 1:12:08
  a picture of a dress. Now all of a sudden
• 1:12:10
  it's like, All these different things are popping up. It's
• 1:12:13
  being very helpful. She's checking airline fares for our trip
• 1:12:17
  to Holland in January. But something else happened in the
• 1:12:21
  meantime. And this is where my thinking went. So Pastor
• 1:12:25
  Jimmy sends me a text yesterday. He's like, oh, man,
• 1:12:29
  now I have to pay Facebook for... to put a
• 1:12:33
  link in a post. I'm like, what are you talking
• 1:12:36
  about? So apparently this has been rolling out slowly since
• 1:12:40
  2025 and if you're a business and you have a
• 1:12:44
  business account, they eventually want you to, you can post
• 1:12:48
  as many times as you want, but if you want
• 1:12:50
  to post more than two links a month in your
• 1:12:53
  posts, You have to pay $19.95 a month for four
• 1:12:58
  links, $49.95 a month for eight links, and it goes
• 1:13:03
  up to $500. And the reason is that everyone was
• 1:13:07
  unleashing bots on their business pages and just spamming tons
• 1:13:13
  of links. And so Pastor Jimmy's like, well, now I
• 1:13:16
  have to, I'm getting hurt for the incursions of others.
• 1:13:21
  I said, no, no, no. He said, yeah, but we're
• 1:13:23
  non-profits. Yeah, non-profits spend a lot of money on services.
• 1:13:28
  You know, so, you know, this is Silicon Valley. And
• 1:13:31
  he's like, yeah, you're right. Yeah. This is really the
• 1:13:34
  beginning of the changes we're going to see in our
• 1:13:37
  world because of agents and everybody having one. And I'm
• 1:13:42
  thinking, how will Facebook turn this to advantage? I mean,
• 1:13:47
  it's very straightforward. You know, now the first thing it
• 1:13:50
  asks you to do is connect your… and your Gmail,
• 1:13:53
  your email. So now, think on top of having the
• 1:13:56
  Facebook information, the Instagram information, the social network, your preferences,
• 1:14:01
  the algorithm, what, you know, things you, I click on
• 1:14:04
  bulldogs and skiing in Japan and Japanese food, you're clicking
• 1:14:08
  on Christ and, you know, gear for, you know, broadcasting,
• 1:14:12
  whatever it is. Now, Now you add your entire email
• 1:14:15
  history. Now you add your entire calendar. Oh yeah, you
• 1:14:18
  know, J. Cal's traveling to Saudi and Tokyo. You're traveling
• 1:14:22
  to Amsterdam, whatever. It knows exactly everything about you. So
• 1:14:25
  the ads are going to just be hyper-targeted. But what's
• 1:14:28
  really interesting about this for the first time, think about...
• 1:14:32
  services rich people, like remember when you were rich and
• 1:14:34
  you had like the castles and the helicopters and all
• 1:14:36
  that stuff? Good times, good times, J. Cal, good times.
• 1:14:40
  You remember when you were looking for second helicopters and
• 1:14:43
  castles? But when you start, you had a butler. Yeah,
• 1:14:48
  good times. Like now you think about what AI could
• 1:14:52
  do for in the bottom of what they call the
• 1:14:54
  K-shape recovery. Like the top's doing really good, strong upper
• 1:14:59
  line for the K.
• 1:15:00
  a weaker bottom line for the K. So the bottom
• 1:15:02
  half is they've never had a personal assistant. They never
• 1:15:05
  had a travel agent. They never had a chief of
• 1:15:07
  staff. They never had a butler. Now, mom, dad, your
• 1:15:11
  unk, it says, oh, I wanna do this trip. How
• 1:15:14
  do I use my miles properly? How do I get
• 1:15:16
  a discount? Can you negotiate that for me? Get me
• 1:15:19
  a refund on this. All of those things that rich
• 1:15:22
  people have through staff. uh through services now that goes
• 1:15:28
  to the bottom half they're going to fall in love
• 1:15:30
  with these products they're going to be like this is
• 1:15:32
  the greatest that when tina finally gets in there and
• 1:15:35
  says i want to um i'm trying to find this
• 1:15:38
  dress can you find me This same dress, but at
• 1:15:41
  a better price, they're like, oh, yeah, by the way,
• 1:15:43
  I don't know what the fast fashion sites are, but
• 1:15:46
  we found on this fast fashion site the same version
• 1:15:49
  of the dress for 20% of the cost. Oh, great.
• 1:15:52
  So let me build on that. Please. What I realized
• 1:15:56
  is that… This Muse agent, this computer that you basically
• 1:16:03
  get is powerful. You can completely change it. You can
• 1:16:08
  make it anything you want it to be. But the
• 1:16:10
  app is really smart because, yes, you have a chat.
• 1:16:14
  but then you have a button you got four five
• 1:16:17
  buttons underneath the second one is a timeline and the
• 1:16:20
  timeline starts to tell me about things happening in Fredericksburg.
• 1:16:26
  It's telling me about podcasts that I might be interested
• 1:16:29
  in. Unfortunately, it's trying to open them on Spotify, so
• 1:16:32
  that's a no-go. So it has a timeline now, which
• 1:16:37
  could also include the updates from Bridge Church. It has
• 1:16:43
  an ideas tab, a little light bulb. And so that's
• 1:16:47
  the stuff it's suggesting to you, that you're right, that's
• 1:16:49
  where it's going to say to Tina, hey, here's what
• 1:16:51
  we can do. Then it has a tasks where these
• 1:16:54
  are tasks like I have to get my passport renewed.
• 1:16:57
  It is completed in the document section, an entire package.
• 1:17:03
  All I have to do is print it out, fill
• 1:17:05
  in my name, put it in an envelope and send
• 1:17:08
  it off. And I think that this is going to
• 1:17:11
  be the new social network once you can have my
• 1:17:16
  muse talk to your muse. This, I think this will
• 1:17:22
  supersede Facebook. It will supersede Instagram. And I think it
• 1:17:26
  will actually be good because you don't need to advertise
• 1:17:30
  to me. You just, all Instagram, all meta has to
• 1:17:34
  do is take a piece of the cheapest price. Absolutely.
• 1:17:38
  I mean, that's obvious. It's so obvious what's going to
• 1:17:40
  happen here. If you could intercept the homepage, the front
• 1:17:43
  page of the internet, this was always like people's battle.
• 1:17:47
  And it's the constant battle. Who can get to the
• 1:17:49
  customer first? It will be your social network. You won't
• 1:17:53
  go to Facebook or Instagram. You'll go to your agent.
• 1:17:56
  But it's going to be your social network, I'm telling
• 1:17:58
  you. you this is what it's going to be. Multiplayer
• 1:18:01
  mode is coming to all of these. That's when it's
• 1:18:03
  going to get spectacular. You, me, and Daniel Burnetti will
• 1:18:06
  be in a group with your bot doing what's going
• 1:18:10
  to be on the show, my bot doing what's going
• 1:18:13
  to be on the show, some homoerotic meme post-generator, make
• 1:18:20
  and gay memes or something. Yeah, there it goes. Yeah.
• 1:18:24
  And that's it. You're going to have your bots in
• 1:18:26
  your group chat doing tank memes. You took a hard
• 1:18:29
  left turn. I was taking it towards the church and
• 1:18:32
  how our church – And now you took it towards
• 1:18:34
  homoerotic memes. No. But thinking more in the Greek tradition,
• 1:18:37
  like, you know. But I think this is genius, and
• 1:18:42
  it's not dangerous. This is the thing. No, getting me
• 1:18:48
  a cheaper price on my hotel is a win for
• 1:18:50
  everybody. It's a win. Just take the win. And that's
• 1:18:54
  what we need to do. Stop terrifying everybody. They're going
• 1:18:58
  to lose their jobs. Start giving them some easy wins
• 1:19:00
  and gains. Being able to get... goods or commerce, you
• 1:19:05
  know, and to save money or make money quicker and
• 1:19:08
  more efficiently is like one of the best things you
• 1:19:11
  can do, whether it was eBay or Facebook marketplace, all
• 1:19:14
  of these things just make people's lives a little better.
• 1:19:17
  That's what Zuckerberg understands that other people don't. The end.
• 1:19:20
  So check this out. So I'm like, all right, can
• 1:19:24
  you Look up the chomps that my dog Phoebe likes
• 1:19:28
  on Amazon. Now I'm still blocked by Amazon. Okay. I
• 1:19:32
  say, well, what if I gave you a key to
• 1:19:36
  my VPN and you could go out to my home
• 1:19:39
  router? Well, he says, our browsers have been fingerprinted by
• 1:19:43
  Amazon. That probably won't work. But then it has this
• 1:19:46
  whole idea of using tail scale tunneling. Here we go.
• 1:19:53
  And I'm like, this is great. It's coming up with
• 1:19:57
  hacks on my behalf and at my level of understanding.
• 1:20:02
  And please don't create a thousand more and tell it
• 1:20:05
  to do more hacks. Yeah, but see, I don't believe
• 1:20:07
  any of that's going to happen. This is all just
• 1:20:10
  to make people afraid, whereas we have a friend of
• 1:20:15
  Tina's. And she's a single mom, has twins who are,
• 1:20:19
  you know, Tara age, like three or four years old.
• 1:20:23
  She works from home for a company, I think, in
• 1:20:26
  Dallas. And she has a lot of ordering. And I'm
• 1:20:29
  not exactly sure what the company is. But she says,
• 1:20:32
  you know, I got GrokBot and my life has changed.
• 1:20:37
  My... The time I have saved that I can spend
• 1:20:40
  with the kids or do something else or or just
• 1:20:44
  sleep half an hour longer is amazing. It's not going
• 1:20:47
  to take over my job. It's not this. That was
• 1:20:50
  that was the last scare. Now it's you were all
• 1:20:53
  going to die scare. - You know this concept of
• 1:20:56
  chores? We all have to do our chores. Like when
• 1:20:59
  you can offload some chores that are tedious and not
• 1:21:03
  fun, to AI makes people happy. And it's going to
• 1:21:07
  make it's going to change people's view of this. It's
• 1:21:10
  also why Amazon's trying to stop you because I literally
• 1:21:13
  told it, hey, find me like the best price for
• 1:21:16
  this anchor hub I was going to get the other
• 1:21:18
  day. And it was like, okay, yeah, Amazon has a
• 1:21:21
  great price. And I was like, check the manufacturer side.
• 1:21:24
  It's like, oh, well, the manufacturer is charging the same
• 1:21:27
  amount and explain that usually they don't undercut their resellers.
• 1:21:30
  I was like, oh, okay, thanks for the background. And
• 1:21:32
  it's like, but... Wait for it. If you're a first-time
• 1:21:36
  buyer on the Anchor website, you can get a 30%
• 1:21:41
  discount on your first purchase. Would you like me to
• 1:21:44
  buy it from there and save $85? And I was
• 1:21:45
  like, oh, now we're talking. Now we're talking. This thing
• 1:21:49
  is like my coupon. You know the coupon lady that
• 1:21:51
  was friends with your auntie or whatever? Oh, yeah. Coupon
• 1:21:55
  lady now works for you. You get the full-time coupon
• 1:21:57
  lady who's like, oh, you're paying for your Cracker Jacks?
• 1:22:00
  I can get you Cracker Jacks for free. Why don't
• 1:22:01
  you go on Tuesdays when they give you two for
• 1:22:03
  one and then you have the triple coupon? You're like,
• 1:22:06
  because I have a life and I don't know how
• 1:22:07
  to do that. Now something that Zuckerberg is really doing
• 1:22:11
  this stupid. This is the dumbest thing ever and I
• 1:22:14
  have thoughts. These are the new Meta Ray-Ban audio glasses.
• 1:22:19
  They start at $349 and they don't have cameras, as
• 1:22:23
  you can tell. They do have audio and the ability
• 1:22:26
  to talk to Meta. AI. Now, if you think about
• 1:22:28
  the price point here, they are $100 cheaper than the
• 1:22:32
  other Meta Ray-Bans that do have the cameras and can
• 1:22:35
  take photos and video. And they're about $100 more than
• 1:22:39
  the cheapest Meta glasses, which are not Ray-Bans. And those
• 1:22:43
  started around $249. So these are two of the new
• 1:22:46
  designs and they are super lightweight. Super lightweight. These are
• 1:22:49
  only 43 grams. So much closer to just regular glasses.
• 1:22:54
  Who the heck knows how much a gram weighs? Well,
• 1:22:57
  like regular glasses, they have a lot of technology in
• 1:22:59
  here. But they are lighter than the other ones because
• 1:23:02
  they do not have the cameras for taking photos and
• 1:23:04
  video. But if you think about what these do, the
• 1:23:06
  fact that by the end of the year, they're going
• 1:23:09
  to be over 100. different versions of Meta glasses. It's
• 1:23:12
  all about getting this hardware into people's hands, different versions,
• 1:23:16
  different form factors that people might feel comfortable with. You
• 1:23:19
  could put your regular prescription lenses in these and then
• 1:23:22
  Meta wants to make it easy for you to access
• 1:23:25
  their AI tools, the new Muse AI tools, which now
• 1:23:28
  you can talk to at any time through the glass.
• 1:23:31
  Okay. This is dumb. And the reason why it's dumb,
• 1:23:35
  this, first of all, is just stupid. You know, I
• 1:23:38
  don't like wearing my glasses. It's annoying. I don't like
• 1:23:43
  contact lenses. But when I'm... nearsighted so I don't have
• 1:23:46
  to worry about stuff too much in the home but
• 1:23:49
  I don't wear my glasses in the home and you
• 1:23:51
  have these glasses only to talk to your AI no
• 1:23:55
  you need a consumer version of the hearing aids that
• 1:24:00
  I have this the hearing I my hearing aids is
• 1:24:04
  fantastic Like I preview clips. Which brand are these? These
• 1:24:09
  are like some. No, no. Are these like the $3,000
• 1:24:13
  ones I heard Mr. Wonderful talking about that go all
• 1:24:15
  the way deep in your canal and you can't see
• 1:24:16
  them? Yeah, but these are Jabra's, which is. Oh, Jabra.
• 1:24:20
  Yeah. I remember Jabra. No, they're not cheap, but I
• 1:24:23
  mean Facebook could make them cheap. Yes, they go in
• 1:24:26
  your hearing canal. You only would. I mean, there's all
• 1:24:29
  kinds of versions that can just you put it in
• 1:24:31
  your ear. And if you want, it can play music
• 1:24:34
  and it has high fidelity. Jabra knows how to do
• 1:24:38
  that. You know, there's different different settings, different scenarios. Or
• 1:24:43
  you can just have it, you know, just be neutral.
• 1:24:46
  And it's the same as just listening. Can you be
• 1:24:48
  like Spider-Man and hear across the room on somebody's conversation?
• 1:24:51
  Yes. And I've been in a mall. And I've turned
• 1:24:54
  up. I have a setting that is outdoor and you
• 1:24:56
  can you has compressors and limiters and expanders in there.
• 1:25:00
  And if I turn my head just a little bit
• 1:25:02
  so the microphone is focused, I can hear someone across
• 1:25:05
  the mall what they're talking about. But more importantly. Now,
• 1:25:10
  I'm not interested in it personally, but if you –
• 1:25:13
  when we were walking in Rotterdam, and I put on
• 1:25:16
  my Google Maps, and then Google Maps is just going,
• 1:25:21
  turn left on this street. Okay. Okay. Love it. And
• 1:25:25
  you don't have to keep the phone up to your
• 1:25:27
  ear. And it has microphones so you can talk back
• 1:25:30
  to it if you really feel like it. Now, the
• 1:25:32
  Muse thing doesn't talk to you. Thank God. Not yet.
• 1:25:37
  Well, if you want. So yesterday, we've had a real.
• 1:25:41
  Do you have Sonos? I do have Sonos, yes. So
• 1:25:44
  ever since the new Sonos app came out, the thing
• 1:25:48
  just sucks. They've been trying to fix it. Well, they
• 1:25:51
  fixed it with a new CEO. It's still not fixed.
• 1:25:54
  And then so if I'm in the bedroom and I
• 1:25:56
  want to turn the speakers on the bedroom, it's you
• 1:25:59
  know, the speaker doesn't show up in the app. I
• 1:26:01
  got to go into the kitchen. I got it. It's
• 1:26:04
  a mess. So I said, Muse, can you connect to
• 1:26:07
  my Sonos? Why? Sure. It wasn't that easy because I
• 1:26:11
  had to get a developer account, but it walked me
• 1:26:13
  through it. So I got a, basically it wrote a
• 1:26:16
  little app that controls my Sonos. Did you realize what
• 1:26:20
  you just said? Yes. You wrote an app to control
• 1:26:24
  your Sonos. You're fixing Sonos' software. I'm anthropomorphizing myself. I
• 1:26:28
  love it. But... So it works. So it works anywhere.
• 1:26:33
  I just tell the bot, okay, turn this on. And
• 1:26:35
  I can say what song I want or what playlist
• 1:26:37
  I want. But also, if you want, it can talk.
• 1:26:42
  over your sonos and so i was sending messages to
• 1:26:45
  tina you know but that's a pretty good voice which
• 1:26:49
  i'd really love to have for some of my other
• 1:26:50
  stuff is like just train it on your voice and
• 1:26:52
  then make it like 10 more robotic and you can
• 1:26:55
  be like her servant uh those aren't that's not it's
• 1:26:59
  decent but not that great but anyway I'm saying the
• 1:27:03
  glasses, get off of it, Zuckerberg. It looks stupid. Stupid.
• 1:27:07
  And here's the thing. Check the calendar, dude. Risky Business
• 1:27:10
  was in the 80s with your Ray-Bans. Here's the thing.
• 1:27:15
  There are like... These guys have been skating to this
• 1:27:19
  puck for a long time. Everybody thinks the glasses and
• 1:27:22
  AR is going to be the big win. And there's
• 1:27:25
  a couple of use cases that are really good. The
• 1:27:27
  one you described of like, I'm driving or I'm walking
• 1:27:31
  around a city and it's giving me instructions, etc. That
• 1:27:34
  one is an obvious layup. The other one is when
• 1:27:36
  you're with kids and you want to. you know, make
• 1:27:39
  videos, having it on your glasses actually gives you the
• 1:27:42
  perfect perspective. And when you take a phone out and
• 1:27:45
  start taking pictures of kids, they change their behavior. So
• 1:27:49
  when you're doing it covertly, you get the natural behavior.
• 1:27:51
  So people like that. The piece that they really want
• 1:27:54
  to work is to have a heads up display like
• 1:27:57
  the Terminator, at the world and you're walking down a
• 1:28:02
  street you can see oh this is a bookstore oh
• 1:28:05
  this bookstore has these three books that you would like
• 1:28:08
  based on your history you've read these science fiction novels
• 1:28:11
  this one you should go buy that's what their holy
• 1:28:14
  grail is that's like the my fridge my fridge is
• 1:28:17
  gonna order milk when i'm out and then it'll be
• 1:28:19
  here just in time by the way by the way
• 1:28:22
  So I have one rule in our home. If there's
• 1:28:26
  something we use every day of our life, let's try
• 1:28:30
  and get the best we can afford. And so that
• 1:28:33
  goes for mattress. It goes for shoes. And it goes
• 1:28:37
  for food, beef. And when we bought this house, it
• 1:28:40
  had a refrigerator. It was 11 years old. You know,
• 1:28:45
  the ice maker broke. And so we're like, okay, we're
• 1:28:47
  going to get a new fridge. And we just got
• 1:28:49
  a GE. And so these two dudes come in and
• 1:28:52
  saw it. I couldn't help but hear it. Dire straits
• 1:28:55
  in my head, money for nothing, these refrigerators and the
• 1:28:58
  color TVs. Canceled. These guys look like it too. Sweet
• 1:29:02
  guys. And so they said, do you want the Wi-Fi?
• 1:29:05
  I said, Wi-Fi? What does this thing need to be
• 1:29:07
  hooked up for Wi-Fi for? Even your water filters. Well,
• 1:29:10
  for the filter scan, but also… Software upgrades. I'm like,
• 1:29:16
  no, but I don't want software upgrades. But I look
• 1:29:19
  in the fine print. What it's really for is it
• 1:29:22
  can then communicate with my local electricity provider. And when
• 1:29:27
  just like Nest, when there's too much demand, it'll shut
• 1:29:31
  down my refrigerator. I'm like, no, I don't want this.
• 1:29:38
  That's hilarious. So I don't know about these glasses and
• 1:29:41
  all that. The holy grail is done. I've tried all
• 1:29:44
  of them. There is something nice about the open ear
• 1:29:48
  experience when you're listening to music or a podcast that
• 1:29:52
  – like when you go for a hike around the
• 1:29:54
  ranch and you can still hear nature and so you're
• 1:29:57
  not blocking out the sound you're kind of
• 1:30:00
  having it pass through, which I'm sure your Jabra hearing
• 1:30:03
  aids do too. But that's kind of a nice experience.
• 1:30:06
  And I have the latest ones, the latest Ray-Bans, and
• 1:30:10
  they're getting close. I think in another – two years,
• 1:30:13
  these things will be light enough, have enough power, and
• 1:30:16
  then people will like them. You don't have the face
• 1:30:19
  for Ray-Bans. I can't believe that looks good on you.
• 1:30:23
  No, I don't think anything looks good on me particularly.
• 1:30:26
  You've got a baby face. You don't want to obscure
• 1:30:29
  your face with the big Ray-Bans or any kind of
• 1:30:31
  glasses. If you don't need them, it just applies. pain
• 1:30:34
  in the butt and then you got to charge your
• 1:30:36
  glass like the hearing aids yeah you know at night
• 1:30:38
  I put them in a case they charge up and
• 1:30:41
  you know Perfect. And I need him. I love that.
• 1:30:43
  I think we're going to all be superhuman in our
• 1:30:45
  perception. Like I'm going to get this lens replacement therapy
• 1:30:50
  because I use like two X readers now when I'm
• 1:30:52
  reading on my laptop and I'm reading a book. You
• 1:30:55
  can replace your lenses and have 2015. Like, you can
• 1:30:59
  have better than 20-20 vision. And then with your ears,
• 1:31:03
  you could have better than human, you could have superhuman
• 1:31:06
  hearing. This is, like, going to get really interesting that
• 1:31:10
  we can be superhuman in our, even in our later
• 1:31:13
  years, or just be... reverse or freeze the degradation of
• 1:31:19
  our senses. That's kind of crazy when you think about
• 1:31:22
  it. Blitz in the troll room says, just get the
• 1:31:24
  brain implants, you cucks. I mean, it's going to be
• 1:31:28
  cottage. I'm sure you're on the list. I just want
• 1:31:31
  to live to 100 and be able, I just want
• 1:31:32
  to ski until I'm 100. Nah, you're on. If we
• 1:31:35
  can get this going. Tell me you're on. Elon's list
• 1:31:38
  for a Neuralink implant. I know you are. No. No,
• 1:31:40
  I have not. Yes, you want it. You love it.
• 1:31:43
  You love it. You want it. No. you want me
• 1:31:47
  to want it i don't want it i don't want
• 1:31:49
  to mess with my brain i'm old school you're the
• 1:31:52
  canary in the coal man my brother you're perfect for
• 1:31:54
  this kind of stuff yeah implant i would not want
• 1:31:57
  to special donation i think that's going to cause another
• 1:32:00
  type of psychosis in people like to to have too
• 1:32:03
  much bandwidth coming in is just not oh we're already
• 1:32:07
  there what talking about? We're already there. In fact, with
• 1:32:10
  doomscrolling, we are, yes. But if anything, my Muse robot,
• 1:32:15
  I just call it what it is, my Muse robot
• 1:32:17
  has reduced bandwidth. It has reduced the amount of stuff
• 1:32:22
  I've got to look at. It has. I've hooked up
• 1:32:24
  my Godcaster email, which is for business only. My Godcaster
• 1:32:28
  calendar, which is for business only. And it's reduced the
• 1:32:32
  bandwidth. Like, okay, it's sorting through things. It's not like
• 1:32:35
  a huge company, but there's stuff going on. And it's
• 1:32:40
  very helpful to me. It's actually giving me more time
• 1:32:45
  to just chill and not do anything. It's not going
• 1:32:47
  to replace me. I don't see that. It's all in
• 1:32:50
  how you use this technology. Absolutely. If you create 20
• 1:32:54
  reports that come to you all day long, every hour…
• 1:32:57
  Not going to help you. It's going to make it
• 1:32:59
  worse. And if you say, you know what, just let
• 1:33:00
  me know every 48 hours what's in the customer support
• 1:33:03
  loop and do the best you can in answering them
• 1:33:06
  and be the front line of defense and triage my
• 1:33:08
  email box, it can be extraordinary for you. Email is
• 1:33:10
  so broken. Okay, now let's go back to the issue
• 1:33:13
  that is going to play out for the next 50
• 1:33:15
  days, which is data centers, and it's a huge political.
• 1:33:19
  issue and because No one is really in the media
• 1:33:23
  is honest about what these things can or can't do.
• 1:33:27
  And, you know, Tristan Harris is talking asteroids. It's going
• 1:33:31
  to be a huge political play out. And it's a
• 1:33:34
  lot more dangerous that people vote for Tallarico because he's
• 1:33:39
  apparently against data centers than it is – A new
• 1:33:43
  poll shows about two-thirds of Americans oppose data centers being
• 1:33:48
  built in their communities. That's according to The Economist and
• 1:33:52
  YouGov. And Pierre Scott Newman says Virginia leads the nation
• 1:33:55
  in data centers with several hundred in operation. Casey Hatch
• 1:33:59
  lives near a data center in Loudoun County, Virginia, one
• 1:34:01
  of the many supporting the artificial intelligence. She works in
• 1:34:05
  IT and even uses AI in her job. But she's
• 1:34:09
  also become an active member in a grassroots bipartisan group
• 1:34:12
  that opposes data centers. She spoke recently with a cousin
• 1:34:15
  who doesn't usually share their politics and found common ground
• 1:34:19
  over the data center issue. We couldn't have this conversation
• 1:34:22
  five years ago, me and him, and suddenly we were
• 1:34:24
  on the same page. Virginia's Governor Abigail Spanberger campaigned on
• 1:34:28
  qualified support for data center expositioning. But just last week,
• 1:34:31
  she signed an executive order seeking to limit their development.
• 1:34:36
  This is a fun topic that crosses all kinds of
• 1:34:40
  groups. The biggest questions I get are, how's this going
• 1:34:43
  to affect our water bill? How's this going to affect
• 1:34:45
  our light bill? What noise level is this going to
• 1:34:48
  be on our people? Across America, religious leaders are now
• 1:34:51
  weighing in on the data center development debate. In this
• 1:34:54
  small neighborhood in Indiana, plans to establish a more More
• 1:34:57
  than 13-acre AI data center are underway. Earlier this year,
• 1:35:01
  Indianapolis City Council voted to approve rezoning measures that allows
• 1:35:05
  Metroblocks, an L.A.-based company, to build the facility. Despite backlash
• 1:35:09
  from the neighborhood's faith leaders, Reverend Fitzhugh Lyons is part
• 1:35:13
  of a coalition of pastors in that city. They are
• 1:35:15
  against the data center being developed in Martindale-Brightwood. a historically
• 1:35:19
  black neighborhood. Metro Blocks did not respond to our request
• 1:35:22
  for comment, but some faith leaders say they see the
• 1:35:25
  developments as a godsend. We've been blessed. God has given
• 1:35:28
  us a great gift. He has sent the world to
• 1:35:30
  us. There you go. Oh, dang. It's like God gave
• 1:35:34
  us the data center. He did. He did. He did.
• 1:35:37
  In Louisiana, Meta is building what they say is their
• 1:35:39
  largest data center yet. They say the AI development will
• 1:35:42
  bring roughly $50 billion to the Richland Parish region. But
• 1:35:46
  not everyone in the area is on board. Local media
• 1:35:49
  spoke to residents who say the development has impacted their
• 1:35:51
  air and water quality. In a statement to NBC News,
• 1:35:54
  Metta said in part, they're investing in new energy and
• 1:35:57
  water infrastructure that benefits everyone. supporting local schools and helping
• 1:36:02
  small businesses in the area, as well as paying in
• 1:36:05
  full for the energy and water we use. Environmentalist Marcus
• 1:36:08
  Cole is organizing director of Georgia Interfaith Power and Light.
• 1:36:12
  He says the promises of millions or even billions of
• 1:36:14
  dollars in revenue is not enough for a community to
• 1:36:18
  support a development. But so often what we see is
• 1:36:22
  There aren't community benefits agreements. The communities aren't consulted at
• 1:36:25
  the beginning, middle, or even the end of the process.
• 1:36:28
  I think folks understand rightfully so that that's not true
• 1:36:32
  partnership. Back in Indianapolis, Reverend Lyons says he believes his
• 1:36:35
  small community is not the only one that should be
• 1:36:38
  concerned. We need to put some regulation around this data
• 1:36:42
  center. Because everyone, and I do mean everyone, is subject
• 1:36:46
  to having a data center right next door to you.
• 1:36:50
  You know, if your city council doesn't consult you, then
• 1:36:55
  that's the problem. Yeah, and you're not involved. If you
• 1:37:00
  don't look at your local newspaper or talk to anybody.
• 1:37:04
  Or don't subscribe to your local newspaper or don't vote.
• 1:37:08
  This is all stuff that's on you. right? This is
• 1:37:10
  on the local community because you can extract anything you
• 1:37:14
  want from these data center providers. They will give you
• 1:37:17
  whatever they want. They're making so much money. The opportunity
• 1:37:20
  is so huge. You can negotiate. You can renegotiate. They'll
• 1:37:23
  just give you what you want. Free electricity. Get rid
• 1:37:26
  of your real estate taxes. I agree. Does Chamath over...
• 1:37:31
  you any money? I don't think so. Why? Because you
• 1:37:36
  should collect because he's going to lose his shirt on
• 1:37:38
  that data center project he's in. I mean, who knows?
• 1:37:42
  He's going to lose his shirt on that. No, it's
• 1:37:43
  never going to work. Never going to work for him.
• 1:37:46
  You know, I haven't kept track. He hasn't talked about
• 1:37:48
  it much recently. Exactly. I think a lot of them
• 1:37:51
  are speculative. You know, you get like some land and
• 1:37:54
  then you got to go find customers. You got to
• 1:37:57
  find chips. Everything is like on the come kind of
• 1:37:59
  situation. On the come? Yeah, like on the comeback, you
• 1:38:05
  got to like, what's the term? Like speculation, I think
• 1:38:09
  is the right term. It doesn't even make sense. I
• 1:38:14
  mean, the whole – so building on what we're talking
• 1:38:20
  about, I think Apple, but also AMD and a couple
• 1:38:25
  other chip companies, they're going to make your phone powerful.
• 1:38:30
  And you're not going to need the data center. It's
• 1:38:34
  so obvious to me. I got it from you, from
• 1:38:37
  the data center to the desktop, from the... And that's
• 1:38:41
  going to go straight to your phone. I mean, it
• 1:38:43
  just seems maybe that's why they're also incessant about making
• 1:38:48
  hardware devices is they know that ultimately that's where it
• 1:38:54
  lands because I don't need an Ubuntu device. virtual machine
• 1:38:59
  i got them here at home i'm running everything on
• 1:39:03
  quen 3.8 i don't need their stuff everything is going
• 1:39:06
  to be commoditized so quickly like it always has been
• 1:39:09
  and you know i wouldn't be surprised if like claude
• 1:39:13
  open ai facebook i think facebook like launches a phone
• 1:39:16
  now and just says like here's your phone yeah it's
• 1:39:19
  just You know, the bot. It's just a slab. It's
• 1:39:23
  just a slab, exactly. Like, here's your glass slab. Yeah.
• 1:39:27
  Talk to it, and it just gives you everything you
• 1:39:29
  want in your life. But yeah, this is all going
• 1:39:32
  to get commoditized. It's already happening, and the Frontier Labs
• 1:39:37
  are going to have significant headwinds against them, and I
• 1:39:41
  think that's probably why they're spiraling right now. Anthropic pushed
• 1:39:44
  their IPO out a month, it looks like, and then
• 1:39:47
  OpenAI is going to be next year. So these guys
• 1:39:49
  are very peculiar in how they run these businesses because
• 1:39:54
  they are supposed to be stewards of the shareholders in
• 1:40:00
  the company. Now, if I was a shareholder in these
• 1:40:03
  companies… I would be livid that they are shooting themselves
• 1:40:06
  in the foot before the IPO. Like, can we just
• 1:40:09
  act normal for six months and get this IPO out?
• 1:40:13
  So tell me, why are they? Are they are they
• 1:40:16
  really crazy? I mean, is there a strategy here? You
• 1:40:19
  know, some people are reading a strategy into it and
• 1:40:22
  saying, like, they want regulatory capture. Other people are looking
• 1:40:26
  at it and saying these people have been one-shotted. They're
• 1:40:28
  not thinking clearly. And then other people are saying, no,
• 1:40:31
  I think they sincerely have looked into the abyss. They've
• 1:40:34
  looked into the black slab. And what they've seen has
• 1:40:37
  scared the bejesus out of them. And they're reacting without
• 1:40:40
  a filter. The bottom line is, if you're a shareholder
• 1:40:44
  in these companies, you would be like, you would be
• 1:40:48
  going to Dario on the team and saying, please stop
• 1:40:50
  talking. Just stop talking. And then anytime anybody asks you
• 1:40:54
  about safety, say, our first, second, and third priorities are
• 1:40:58
  safety, safety, and safety. We will not release any products
• 1:41:02
  that are unsafe. the end and just like if you
• 1:41:04
  need to slow something down like zuckerberg did he didn't
• 1:41:08
  he held muse back like three months in order to
• 1:41:11
  make sure it wouldn't go a wall so that's all
• 1:41:14
  you have to say that's it you're done Now, this
• 1:41:19
  could unwind the trade, though. Wouldn't this be like the
• 1:41:21
  craziest science fiction ever that right as these things are
• 1:41:26
  hitting true... super intelligence i think they're kind of artificial
• 1:41:32
  general intelligence but they're clearly generally there's no way to
• 1:41:36
  measure that their hand their handy tools they they do
• 1:41:39
  their robots they're clankers they're great at what they do
• 1:41:42
  you know if if you know what you're doing and
• 1:41:45
  and Muse is putting a happy little goblin face on
• 1:41:48
  it, which and has set it up so it's not
• 1:41:52
  going to try and make you kill yourself. It's you
• 1:41:56
  know, it's not dangerous. It's a great tool. This intelligence
• 1:42:01
  thing. Give me a break. No. No. The way I
• 1:42:05
  say – the definition I'll give general intelligence is it's
• 1:42:09
  – At any task a human does, like on some
• 1:42:11
  regular basis, it does it as well. And it seems
• 1:42:14
  to be hitting that shrine, whether it's chess or whether
• 1:42:17
  it's design, whether it's writing code. It's doing it as
• 1:42:19
  well as humans. And then superintelligence, if you want to
• 1:42:22
  use that term, I know some people find it offensive,
• 1:42:24
  is like it can solve problems that humans don't even
• 1:42:27
  define. It can find… It can solve problems humans cannot
• 1:42:32
  solve, and it can find problems humans cannot define. No,
• 1:42:36
  that will happen when we get to – Sure. So
• 1:42:39
  we're at general right now. No, no, no. Think about
• 1:42:41
  this. There's no way you can argue we're not a
• 1:42:43
  general intelligence now. It definitely can do everything a human
• 1:42:47
  can do. I take offense to the word intelligence. There's
• 1:42:50
  no intelligence. It's just – - We call it skills.
• 1:42:53
  - Skills, skills, skills. - Okay, so it has general
• 1:42:55
  skills. - Skills, yes, I'm good with skills. - So
• 1:42:57
  it can do any skill that a human can do.
• 1:42:59
  If you were to apply it to that skill for,
• 1:43:01
  I don't know, 30 days, it can do any skill
• 1:43:03
  a human can do. I think we're kinda at that
• 1:43:06
  point. So it's just a matter of applying it to
• 1:43:08
  a skill. So if we're at that point and these
• 1:43:10
  things are about to IPO, And then they have the
• 1:43:13
  IPOs go off the rails because they've terrorized everybody that
• 1:43:16
  they can't control them. And then that gives them the
• 1:43:19
  inability to have the capital. in order to finish the
• 1:43:22
  build out and the whole thing unravels and we have
• 1:43:27
  a recession like the great financial crisis in 2008. That's
• 1:43:31
  a possibility right now, by the way. I don't think
• 1:43:34
  it's the 90% case, but I think it's like 10%
• 1:43:38
  that these guys are going to unwind. Now, hey, it's
• 1:43:42
  Tristan Kalkanis, everybody. Tristan, 10%. No, I'm not in a
• 1:43:47
  panic about AI taking over. I think they're going to
• 1:43:49
  actually unwind. wind the trade with their... panicking. They may
• 1:43:53
  unwind the trade where people go, you know what, I'm
• 1:43:55
  not willing to pay a billion dollars for this company.
• 1:43:58
  I don't think we should take it public. And then
• 1:44:00
  they're going to be like, okay, where do I get
• 1:44:02
  the $100 billion to pay my – and then more
• 1:44:05
  force majeures happen, more data centers get shut down, and
• 1:44:08
  then the technology goes sideways for five years. It's kind
• 1:44:11
  of crazy what's going on right now. Let's just call
• 1:44:14
  these things what they are. They're slaves. This is my
• 1:44:16
  slave. I'm going to call it a slave from now
• 1:44:19
  on. This is my slave. It does what I tell
• 1:44:21
  it to do. Sometimes it's a good slave. I'm going
• 1:44:24
  to call it Toby. I'm going to call it Toby.
• 1:44:26
  Toby. I'm going to call it Toby. Oh, that's dark.
• 1:44:29
  That's dark. All right. Let's just talk about the state
• 1:44:34
  visit, which was overshadowed by super intelligence and all kinds
• 1:44:38
  of nonsense. This was President Xi. and the press just
• 1:44:44
  thought this was worthless. What is your gut as this
• 1:44:47
  relationship plays out and how does it compare to those
• 1:44:51
  between past American presidents and Chinese leaders? Well, my gut
• 1:44:54
  says it's good when leaders from Beijing and Washington talk.
• 1:44:58
  I'm glad they're talking. It's
• 1:45:00
  Better than a confrontation. It's better than a new Cold
• 1:45:02
  War. But I'm mostly struck by the disconnect between all
• 1:45:06
  the pageantry that you just talked about and the substantive
• 1:45:09
  achievements that, That are advancing the interests of the American
• 1:45:13
  people. Heavy on the pageantry, light on the deliverables, as
• 1:45:17
  we used to call them when I worked in the
• 1:45:18
  government, right? Right. I mean, let's think about it. How
• 1:45:22
  many presidents have met at the tarmac with a red
• 1:45:25
  carpet leaders from China or the Soviet Union or Russia?
• 1:45:30
  Zero. Never has that happened before. Zero. President Trump has
• 1:45:33
  already done that twice in the last two years. Second,
• 1:45:38
  if you listen to the language, Trump just can't find
• 1:45:42
  the nicest words. He's stumbling over himself to find nicer
• 1:45:46
  words to talk about. The general secretary of the Communist
• 1:45:50
  Party of China. And contrast that to the way he
• 1:45:53
  talks about our allies, contrast that to the way he
• 1:45:55
  talks about the prime minister of Canada. Just shocking to
• 1:45:59
  me and in my view, not in America's national interest.
• 1:46:03
  See, this is why I think Trump doesn't care, because
• 1:46:07
  he knows we've got to work. China's not up to
• 1:46:10
  kill us. We're their customer. They're not going to kill
• 1:46:13
  us for any reason whatsoever. But he's in the hospitality
• 1:46:18
  business. He's going to hold your chair. You're going to
• 1:46:20
  get a little chocolate on your pillow at night. That's
• 1:46:23
  what he does. Whoa, but he didn't. He's literally, I
• 1:46:26
  think he'll be his biggest. What is his biggest? What
• 1:46:31
  is his largest focus right now in the second term?
• 1:46:33
  It's to build a thousand person ballroom. Like, that's all
• 1:46:39
  he can talk about is a ballroom. He literally is
• 1:46:42
  in the hospitality business. He took Xi to see the
• 1:46:48
  new… Ballroom? Yeah. With like a construction hat on? Did
• 1:46:51
  they go put construction hats on? There was no tape.
• 1:46:54
  I didn't see any tape of them actually visiting the
• 1:46:56
  construction zone. When you come to my house, I'm going
• 1:46:58
  to say, hey, Jason, this is my... My garage, it
• 1:47:01
  has space for three cars because that's what the, you
• 1:47:04
  know, and this is where my flying car will go.
• 1:47:06
  And I'll show you the studio, you know. Yeah, of
• 1:47:08
  course, that's what you do if you're a good host.
• 1:47:11
  But now he was supposed to yell at him and
• 1:47:13
  tell him, you're no good. You got slaves and Riggers.
• 1:47:16
  But then third, just as you went through that list,
• 1:47:18
  let's talk about that a little bit. Let's go through
• 1:47:21
  the list. Iran, the most important thing President Trump wants
• 1:47:24
  to do is end the war in Iran. He and
• 1:47:26
  his government announced D-Day with sanctions. The number one trading
• 1:47:31
  partner with Iran is China. Nothing. No sanctions, no agreement
• 1:47:36
  to the best. Do these nutjobs think that that's not
• 1:47:40
  discussed over cigars and cognac in the back room? I
• 1:47:45
  mean, it's pretty – yeah, why would they be discussing
• 1:47:48
  that with the media anyway? I'm sure there are important
• 1:47:52
  discussions going on outside of the – of the state
• 1:47:57
  dinner, but I don't think that necessarily has to be
• 1:48:00
  public. I think it's great that Trump gets along with
• 1:48:03
  dictators who normally are at odds with us. The fact
• 1:48:08
  that Kim Jong-un is obsessed with Trump and Putin loves
• 1:48:11
  him and she loves him, that's great. Keep talking. That's
• 1:48:14
  what diplomacy is about. Yes. If you're talking, you're talking,
• 1:48:17
  you're talking. You're not fighting. The chances of you going
• 1:48:19
  to war go down. Part of the reason we went
• 1:48:21
  to war with Iran is we weren't talking to them.
• 1:48:23
  We didn't have great negotiations or open, and we still
• 1:48:26
  don't, and we still can't resolve this thing. It's great
• 1:48:28
  that he and she are talking to each other. I
• 1:48:31
  don't think she's getting over on us at this point,
• 1:48:33
  and you're right. They need us as a customer. And,
• 1:48:36
  you know, if we start the remanufacturing of America and
• 1:48:41
  same thing in Mexico, we can start making stuff in
• 1:48:44
  India like the iPhone is being made in India right
• 1:48:47
  now. The country that has got a major challenge is
• 1:48:52
  not the United States. We're doing great. We keep building
• 1:48:54
  great companies. Anthropic and OpenAI didn't exist 20 years ago.
• 1:48:58
  These are new companies. We keep creating the world's best
• 1:49:01
  companies, period, full stop. And they have to chase us.
• 1:49:06
  We still have the innovation. We are still the destination.
• 1:49:09
  nation, everybody wants to go, despite what we're doing with
• 1:49:12
  the borders, etc. Everybody still wants to come here. And
• 1:49:14
  yeah, they have to fast follow us and sell us
• 1:49:17
  stuff. If they lose us as a customer, they will
• 1:49:19
  have massive instability in their country. If you get to
• 1:49:23
  20% unemployment, 15 to 20% unemployment, that's when people start
• 1:49:27
  riding in the streets. That's their biggest fear. Maybe something
• 1:49:31
  will happen today. Nothing. Trade, nothing changed. Just kicking the
• 1:49:36
  can down the road. Russia, a big sanctions bill was
• 1:49:40
  passed. The president signed it. Gives them all this power
• 1:49:43
  to pressure China, to pressure Russia. Nothing on that. And
• 1:49:47
  then on some other issues, I just want to remind
• 1:49:49
  you. What? Oh, that was the clip. I'm sorry. What
• 1:49:53
  about economic D-Day that they warned? Where's that? Where's that?
• 1:49:56
  It's not there. The number one trading partner, if you
• 1:49:59
  want to pressure the mullahs in Tehran, is China. And
• 1:50:03
  they've done zero about that. Also, reminder, you know, they
• 1:50:07
  also talked about President Trump gave a big, I don't
• 1:50:09
  know if you guys covered it or not, he gave
• 1:50:11
  this big speech talking about Chinese interference in American elections.
• 1:50:16
  What did he do to push back on that? Nothing.
• 1:50:19
  And then some smaller issues. You know, there's an American
• 1:50:22
  scholar. I know him, by the way, personally. Min Zin
• 1:50:25
  is his name. He's from the University of California, Berkeley.
• 1:50:29
  He's been wrongfully detained. Keep him there. Keep him in
• 1:50:32
  China. I applaud that the State Department designate him as
• 1:50:36
  a wrongly detained American citizen. But I haven't heard his
• 1:50:40
  words at all. I haven't heard his name at all
• 1:50:42
  in this summit. So I'm glad they're talking. I wish
• 1:50:45
  they would be talking about things more of substance that
• 1:50:48
  are important to the American people. Midterms, midterms, midterms. This
• 1:50:52
  is the former ambassador to Russia, Michael McFaul. And so
• 1:50:57
  he has an agenda. We've made great strides, very positive
• 1:51:00
  for both countries. Thank you very much, and we appreciate
• 1:51:03
  the fair coverage. It's been very fair. We appreciate it.
• 1:51:06
  The president and I are like two people that's charting
• 1:51:10
  the course for the great shape of China-U.S. relations. When
• 1:51:14
  the president visited China in May, we agreed on the
• 1:51:17
  visions. of building a constructive China-US relationship of strategic stability.
• 1:51:23
  This time, we've agreed to add new substance to it,
• 1:51:26
  that the relationship will be a constructive one of strategic
• 1:51:30
  stability on the basis of respect, fairness, and reciprocity. So
• 1:51:36
  from this one, we can see that the process prospects
• 1:51:39
  for this relationship will get more brighter. I still believe
• 1:51:43
  ARC is the way. Have you ever heard the acronym
• 1:51:46
  ARC? No. What is this? America, Russia, China. Oh, yeah.
• 1:51:52
  I mean, I think Russia's fading in importance, their economy
• 1:51:56
  is just not as significant as it once was. But
• 1:52:00
  it's definitely China, Saudi, the Middle East, UAE and the
• 1:52:03
  United States. That's what I think. Well, the only reason
• 1:52:07
  Russia's economy is hurting is because... Europe won't buy their
• 1:52:12
  oil, their gas. uh we blew up the pipeline i'm
• 1:52:16
  sure i'm sure i'm sure we did that i'm sure
• 1:52:21
  we did that which is not nice deep by the
• 1:52:23
  way it was only like 200 feet below ground it
• 1:52:27
  was like hmm no it was it wasn't a nice
• 1:52:29
  thing to do but they had already been cut off
• 1:52:32
  from from europe you know the The globalists of the
• 1:52:35
  world have always wanted Russia for their stuff. They have
• 1:52:40
  oil and gas up the wazoo. That's why they've always
• 1:52:44
  wanted Russia. And they'll do anything to get it. Yeah,
• 1:52:49
  the good news in all of this is nuclear is
• 1:52:51
  what China is massively investing in. And then the United
• 1:52:54
  States with solar and batteries. When I go to the
• 1:52:57
  Middle East, they're always on a very specific plan. We
• 1:53:01
  have 30 years. from now until 2050, 2060, to take
• 1:53:06
  our petro economy and make it something else. We have
• 1:53:11
  to move off of this economy to a new economy.
• 1:53:14
  That's why you see this crazy investments coming out of
• 1:53:17
  Saudi, UAE. They'll invest in... They're exploring investing in anything.
• 1:53:22
  They'll invest in golf. They'll invest in sports. Oh, hold
• 1:53:24
  on. Hold on. They'll invest in real estate. You, me,
• 1:53:26
  and Brunetti, our AI movie studio. Trust me. That's a
• 1:53:30
  lot of the movies. I think this Paramount deal is
• 1:53:33
  being funded by a lot of money from that region.
• 1:53:36
  So if you want to think about who's going to
• 1:53:38
  have the biggest impact on the future, if you have…
• 1:53:41
  A series of countries that can move very quickly because
• 1:53:44
  they're monarchies and they can just do top-down movements. And
• 1:53:47
  they're small populists. They're, you know, Saudis, like 30 million
• 1:53:50
  people, UAEs, a couple of million people. They can actually
• 1:53:53
  move very quickly. They can move capital places, and they've
• 1:53:56
  westernized massively. They're moving towards the west at a pace
• 1:54:01
  that you would not believe. It is wild. When you
• 1:54:04
  go to the Middle East, why are you going there?
• 1:54:09
  So I have a partnership with the Saudis. What? What?
• 1:54:15
  Yeah. I... I have something called Founder University, which is
• 1:54:19
  how to create companies, like a 12-week course. And I
• 1:54:22
  do it in Saudi, Japan, and the United States. And
• 1:54:26
  so I partner with that. Oh, hold on a second.
• 1:54:28
  Yeah. You need me as a guest speaker. Absolutely. Yeah.
• 1:54:33
  Yeah. Well, I mean, and then the issue is I
• 1:54:35
  haven't been able to do it in Saudi because of
• 1:54:37
  this war for a year, but I basically three years
• 1:54:40
  ago decided I would start going there because I had
• 1:54:42
  no experience. But you can go to Saudi Arabia. I
• 1:54:44
  don't have that. You're just afraid. You're afraid of getting
• 1:54:47
  bombed, but you can go. The state. No, I am
• 1:54:50
  going to go in November currently planning. But right now,
• 1:54:53
  the State Department is saying don't go outside of Riyadh.
• 1:54:57
  So put me put me on the put me on
• 1:54:59
  stage, coach. Put me in. Come on. You should. You
• 1:55:03
  should. It's good to visit. I've been visiting there for
• 1:55:06
  four years and the change every year is incredible. And,
• 1:55:09
  you know, if you. Our State Department and the entire
• 1:55:14
  independent of political party has put the edict out to
• 1:55:21
  the entrepreneurial community, etc. Build relationship fabrics, build businesses with
• 1:55:25
  the Middle East, because then that – We'll have them
• 1:55:30
  become westernized and we'll have the partnership as opposed to
• 1:55:33
  say partnerships with China. Right. Where do you want the
• 1:55:36
  Middle East as this major economic player in the 21st
• 1:55:40
  century? Where do you want them leaning? And that was
• 1:55:42
  what convinced me to get involved or just at least
• 1:55:44
  get educated over there. And so I don't have them
• 1:55:47
  as investors right now. But I am. doing this course
• 1:55:51
  where I'm like helping people build companies. And it's been
• 1:55:53
  very interesting because there's a lot of entrepreneurs there. And
• 1:55:56
  a lot of entrepreneurs from Europe and India, Philippines, et
• 1:55:59
  cetera, are basing their companies in Dubai, Saudi, Abu Dhabi,
• 1:56:03
  Doha. They're deciding to base their companies in there for
• 1:56:07
  tax treatment, for investment, et cetera. So they're going to
• 1:56:10
  be like key player in the – future or er
• 1:56:13
  to a certain extent well the only thing i can
• 1:56:16
  think of with this partnership ui and brunetti are going
• 1:56:20
  to put together because i'm just going to force this
• 1:56:22
  here here because brunetti brunetti i'm telling you brunetti kind
• 1:56:26
  of he had it half right I think the future
• 1:56:29
  of entertainment, then you showed it to me. You sent
• 1:56:31
  me some links this morning. So people who are using,
• 1:56:35
  what is that thing called that you can buy? Opus
• 1:56:40
  5.5. No, no, not Opus. Runway. Pixel. Runway. Runway. So
• 1:56:45
  I think the way it's going to work is people
• 1:56:47
  are going to. invest some money in runway credits, write
• 1:56:53
  a script. It all comes down to writing and the
• 1:56:57
  ideas, obviously. Then you create your movie, you put it
• 1:57:00
  on X, value for value, people will send you X
• 1:57:04
  money. That's the future. And then, you know, say, hey,
• 1:57:08
  I want to do another one, but I need more
• 1:57:10
  credits, man, need more credits. And people will pre-fund it.
• 1:57:13
  They'll pre-fund it. And because some of that stuff was
• 1:57:16
  good. That zombie movie. Holy cow. Yes, this is... People
• 1:57:23
  are connecting their Claude to Runway, and I guess Claude
• 1:57:25
  is good at creating the instructions and then You know,
• 1:57:29
  runway is great at creating the visuals, but I sent
• 1:57:31
  you a couple of them. There was one that was
• 1:57:32
  like make a Netflix documentary. Yeah, it was great. Smug,
• 1:57:36
  smart female host who was speaking like quips the whole
• 1:57:40
  way. And it was like, it was good. My Lord.
• 1:57:43
  Yeah, it was very good. Yeah, it's starting to cross
• 1:57:46
  the uncanny valley for me where it takes me. you
• 1:57:49
  know, three, four, five seconds to be like, okay, hold
• 1:57:52
  on. Let's get focused. Is this real or not real?
• 1:57:55
  No, you can't even tell anymore. You can't even tell.
• 1:57:57
  Well, you could tell. You used to be able to
• 1:57:59
  tell in under a second. Like, literally be like, okay,
• 1:58:01
  that is six fingers. Now it's like, okay, we don't
• 1:58:03
  have six fingers anymore. And, oh, yeah, the voice is
• 1:58:06
  in a tell. The voice is comparable. Okay, how am
• 1:58:10
  I going to figure out? Although the fact that her
• 1:58:12
  name was Imogen, that's like, okay, I'm done. I'm done.
• 1:58:16
  No one names their child Imogen unless you're a –
• 1:58:19
  I have a friend who's named their child Imogen. Must
• 1:58:21
  be royalty. Only royalty. Their daughters, Imogen and Portia. that's
• 1:58:28
  another one porsche i remember the first porsche i met
• 1:58:31
  like after the car no p-o-r-t-i-a oh okay porsche porsche
• 1:58:35
  somebody made like this incredible um with mid-journey at a
• 1:58:40
  mood board and they came up with this like banger
• 1:58:44
  audio track i sent you that was like escaping the
• 1:58:47
  permanent underclass and It was like had every reference to
• 1:58:51
  Waymo's and all the latest stuff. And it's just incredible.
• 1:58:56
  Every two or three weeks, it makes a jump. Yeah.
• 1:59:00
  And the jump is. How many credits do you need
• 1:59:03
  to make those five minutes from runway? Yeah. I don't
• 1:59:07
  know, but it's probably the low hundreds of dollars. Really?
• 1:59:13
  I'm guessing right now, but I think it's probably well
• 1:59:16
  under $1,000. And it's going to get 90% cheaper a
• 1:59:20
  year because the AI is now teaching the AI how
• 1:59:24
  to make it more affordable. So every… they do another
• 1:59:28
  version it's been distilled down to make it more affordable
• 1:59:31
  make it more refined this is going to accelerate and
• 1:59:35
  I don't think we're going to be able to tell
• 1:59:37
  the difference that's why I sent you that Katzenberg post
• 1:59:40
  yeah well it wasn't a post it was like a
• 1:59:43
  manifesto it was too long yes So next time you
• 1:59:47
  speak to Elon You may talk to him from time
• 1:59:51
  to time Tell him, first of all I said years
• 1:59:54
  ago That he was going to do money And he
• 1:59:56
  did, so it wasn't that hard of a prediction For
• 1:59:59
  me actually
• 2:00:00
  But I just tell them I love the X money
• 2:00:04
  DDoS. That is such a genius marketing move. So people
• 2:00:09
  are just – Well, yeah, I don't know what's going
• 2:00:10
  on here. Well, if I do – I'm getting money
• 2:00:12
  sent to me. He's got his bot sending everybody money.
• 2:00:17
  Of course, that's what you do. No, this is what's
• 2:00:19
  – Oh, please. What's happening is there is a –
• 2:00:21
  He's sending it to J-Cow. So J-Cow says, look at
• 2:00:23
  this money. I'm going to give it away to someone
• 2:00:25
  else on X. Yes, that's exactly what's happening. It's a
• 2:00:27
  great idea. No – There, what happens is, okay, here's
• 2:00:31
  what's happening, just so people understand. There was a DDoS
• 2:00:33
  attack this weekend. There are some, what are they called,
• 2:00:36
  meme coins. So these people who have meme coins, we'll
• 2:00:39
  name them after people who have a lot of followers.
• 2:00:41
  So somebody at some point made a meme coin about
• 2:00:44
  me, and then they take fees, and then And they
• 2:00:47
  did it for like a bunch of other people who
• 2:00:49
  have a million followers on X. Then they get fees
• 2:00:53
  for like the transactions around that coin for that person.
• 2:00:59
  So if you... retweeted or whatever you have an incentive
• 2:01:02
  because you get some portion of the trading fees just
• 2:01:05
  like melania coin or like any other scam like any
• 2:01:09
  other scam and i'm like i'm not participating in any
• 2:01:12
  scam but then this because i turned on x money
• 2:01:18
  yeah then it started yeah And I guess I the
• 2:01:22
  default is anybody can send you money. This I'm not
• 2:01:25
  going to say the name of the account, but this
• 2:01:28
  account that does these meme coins sent me. I'm looking
• 2:01:33
  six thousand dollars, three thousand dollars. Wow. Twenty three thousand
• 2:01:37
  dollars, whatever that is, like thirty thousand dollars over the
• 2:01:40
  weekend. and i'm like i thought it was the creator
• 2:01:43
  program remember like they for content creators they split money
• 2:01:48
  like youtube does on x yeah and i was like
• 2:01:50
  wait no it's not that it's this scam meme coin
• 2:01:53
  thing is sending me money that are my gas fees
• 2:01:57
  or whatever fees, transaction fees for it. So I was
• 2:01:59
  like, if you send me money, I'm just going to
• 2:02:01
  give it away as quick as possible. So I just
• 2:02:03
  started giving it away to everybody on the internet as
• 2:02:05
  fast as possible. You're such a mensch. What I was
• 2:02:08
  going to say is send it to Adam Curry. That's
• 2:02:12
  what I did. I did. I said a little bit.
• 2:02:13
  No, I did. I saw that. I saw that. Thank
• 2:02:15
  you. I always put you guys on the top of
• 2:02:17
  this. I want to support JCD's family. It's a genius.
• 2:02:22
  I still think it's a marketing thing. It's a genius
• 2:02:25
  idea. Yeah. Yeah. You can just send money to almost
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  any... with an X account. It's kind of chaotic. Now
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  I'm like, am I paying tax on this? I'm getting
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  a 1099? That's the question. This is not like it's
• 2:02:43
  $2,000 or $3,000 or under the gifting thing. It has
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  to be. It's the same way PayPal does it. Over
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  $600, you're going to get some paperwork from it. It
• 2:02:51
  has to be. Paperwork from some fool-gazy fool-gaz? crypto account?
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  No, no, no. X money will have to report over
• 2:03:01
  $600 and they'll issue that report. By the way, here's
• 2:03:04
  the other thing. My account is stuck at 99.7 thousand
• 2:03:10
  people. I cannot, and I believe that as a limiter.
• 2:03:14
  Dvorak believed it too. In the name of John C.
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  Dvorak. What is going on? 99, you have 99.7. I've
• 2:03:21
  been at 99 point something for years. I cannot get
• 2:03:24
  over 100,000. It's artificially blocked or limited. Yeah. So just
• 2:03:30
  tell Elon to take that off. Hold on, I'll just
• 2:03:33
  tweet. Follow Adam Curry and let's see if we can
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  get him. It will not go over $100,000. It won't.
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  It won't. It won't. I'm telling you. There's some block.
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  There's some block on it. Are you being shadow banned?
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  No. Maybe you did something to the libs previously. No.
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  Maybe. I don't know. I mean, I got an automatic
• 2:03:53
  checkmark that I never asked. Is it because I don't
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  pay for my blue checkmark? Is that it? You have
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  to pay to get over $100? No, you pay for
• 2:03:58
  your blue checkmark. You have a blue checkmark now. Maybe
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  somebody gifted it to you. Yeah, because I'm the podfather.
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  Hello. Maybe. That's why I got the checkmark. Connected via
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  Netherlands Android app. Netherlands Android Optima. Well, no. I'm looking
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  at your profile page. It tells you how the person's
• 2:04:16
  connecting to the thing. Well, I'm not. I'll let you
• 2:04:18
  know if it's... I'm in Texas. I downloaded the app
• 2:04:22
  in America. Based upon... I think it's based upon your
• 2:04:26
  average of the last 30 days. Well, it's wrong. It's
• 2:04:29
  wrong. I don't like the app, honestly. I don't like
• 2:04:32
  it. I just use the web browser. I don't like
• 2:04:34
  the app. It's an addiction. I highly recommend. Well, I
• 2:04:38
  know you're addicted. I know Brunetti's addicted. I tried to
• 2:04:42
  get you on a text group. I get... crickets i'm
• 2:04:47
  like i'll just create it i'm on the text group
• 2:04:49
  no but you didn't say anything but i put it
• 2:04:52
  in a dm dm group on x and like oh
• 2:04:54
  here i am it's like that's sad You know, social
• 2:04:58
  media is like a really bad addiction. I don't have
• 2:05:01
  any other addictions in my life. I mean, except for
• 2:05:03
  skiing in Japan. And arguably, that's a good one. But
• 2:05:07
  yeah, well, you need to meet you need to meet
• 2:05:11
  Dame Astrid and Sir Mark next time you go. Oh,
• 2:05:17
  Japan? Yeah. Do you know who they are? I might
• 2:05:20
  have heard their names, but they're in Tokyo? Yeah. So
• 2:05:23
  look up Ditham Klein Architects. Oh, okay. You look them
• 2:05:27
  up, you'll be like, holy crap. They've designed the emperor's
• 2:05:31
  library. They designed the... The Fender Store. I mean, they
• 2:05:39
  do huge, huge buildings. They do office buildings. They're doing
• 2:05:43
  – Klein Ditham? Yeah, Klein Ditham, yeah. Oh, wow. Look
• 2:05:47
  at this. This is Ginza. Yeah. So Sir Mark is
• 2:05:51
  a super nerd and he really would love to meet
• 2:05:53
  you. This is incredible. And he'll take you to places
• 2:05:57
  where you and you think, you know, Japan. Believe me,
• 2:06:01
  he'll take you places you've never been. I love it.
• 2:06:04
  Yes, definitely intro me on the back channel. Yeah, yeah.
• 2:06:07
  Let me know. I'll intro you on the back channel.
• 2:06:10
  I'll put you in the text group. Oh, wait, I'm
• 2:06:11
  sorry. No, no, whatever. WhatsApp. It's all in Japan. It's
• 2:06:15
  all WhatsApp. But these are some gorgeous buildings in Japan.
• 2:06:19
  It's very interesting, the architecture there. Ginza place. Look at
• 2:06:22
  that. I am so taken by Japan. I know the
• 2:06:25
  building they built here, Ginza Place. Yeah, I've seen it
• 2:06:27
  before. Yeah, I'm telling you. Incredible. He's British. He's Swiss
• 2:06:32
  Italian. I think. I mean, anybody who's like an entrepreneur
• 2:06:38
  or like in any way... design forward or entrepreneurial or
• 2:06:44
  artistic. You just go to Japan and your brain explodes.
• 2:06:48
  You're like, oh my God, there's a perfect society in
• 2:06:50
  the world and here's how it operates. You talk about
• 2:06:55
  getting one-shotted by AI, you get one-shotted by Japan. The
• 2:06:58
  parking is a little tight in Japan. No, that's because
• 2:07:02
  you You know what? The train, everybody just takes the
• 2:07:05
  trains and the trains were all set up very thoughtfully
• 2:07:08
  in a circle. And then over each station, they told
• 2:07:11
  them build giant buildings above the station where people's offices
• 2:07:14
  and apartments will be. So if you planned it that
• 2:07:18
  way, you could just go down to the bottom of
• 2:07:20
  your building, get on there, and go around in a
• 2:07:23
  circle and get to any place in the city within
• 2:07:25
  20 minutes. It's bonkers how efficient it is. And then
• 2:07:28
  because of that, nobody really drives. So when you do
• 2:07:31
  take an Uber, it's like zip, zip, zip. I love
• 2:07:34
  those. They don't have this problem now, but I love
• 2:07:36
  those cabs. where they have the handle in the front
• 2:07:39
  to open the back door. You ever seen that? Yeah,
• 2:07:45
  yeah, yeah. And if you get out, if you try
• 2:07:48
  and close the door, they yell at you, no, no,
• 2:07:50
  this is my head. No, no, no. What you have
• 2:07:52
  to see is the Toyota Alphard, A-L-P-H-A-R-D, Alphard. This is
• 2:07:58
  like the luxury coach of Japan. And... It literally, like,
• 2:08:04
  every Uber there is an Alford. You know, anybody who's,
• 2:08:06
  like, a CEO gets driven in these. Yeah. And like
• 2:08:10
  you're saying, the doors open automatically, and you have these
• 2:08:13
  beautiful, like, captain's chairs, and they just zip you around
• 2:08:16
  town. It's like a dream. Oh. Oh, it's gorgeous. Alfred.
• 2:08:19
  So we're trying to get one in the United States.
• 2:08:21
  They won't sell them here. So why don't you go
• 2:08:22
  live in Japan? Leave America, you traitor. Why don't you
• 2:08:25
  just go there? Well, you need to have a plan.
• 2:08:28
  You need a plan to have a plan. Well, I
• 2:08:30
  escaped California to Texas and then you're a good move.
• 2:08:34
  Good move. Good move. Well, and then you have to
• 2:08:37
  have an escape plan from Texas, and that is, for
• 2:08:40
  me, Tokyo or Singapore or, I guess, Dubai. We don't
• 2:08:43
  need this. We're going to be here for a million
• 2:08:46
  years. What if the socialists take over? I mean, it's
• 2:08:48
  completely impossible. Have you seen the amount of guns we
• 2:08:51
  have? See? I mean, I know the amount of guns
• 2:08:54
  I have. We have a decent amount. That's what I
• 2:08:57
  always tell people. I'm like, you can bring socialism to
• 2:08:59
  Texas. I don't think it's going to work out too
• 2:09:01
  good for you. It will not. It will not. It
• 2:09:03
  will not. Yeah. Hey, brother. Thank you so much for
• 2:09:06
  joining us again today. It's always fun. I know we're
• 2:09:10
  AI heavy, but I mean, this is what's going on.
• 2:09:12
  Well, we've got to talk about it. And you're on
• 2:09:14
  the... world right now. You're right on the cusp, man.
• 2:09:17
  You're on the cusp. See? It's on the cusp. There
• 2:09:20
  you go. There it is. I just, you guys are
• 2:09:25
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• 2:09:29
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• 2:09:33
  Amazing. Your neck and neck. Yeah, no, I mean, somebody's
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• 2:09:38
  So congratulations for Dana. This worked to be improved, but
• 2:09:41
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• 2:09:44
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• 2:09:52
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  But if the race gets weird, we've exchanged the emergency
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