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- 0:00Speaker 1: And nine Ignition six five four three two one zero,
- 0:12Speaker 1: All engine running.
- 0:23Speaker 2: It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for
- 0:26Speaker 2: Agnition with the AAW fanhob podcast team. This is Kelson.
- 0:31Speaker 2: We've got a lot to talk about tonight. We're gonna
- 0:33Speaker 2: talk about what's going on in the Continental Classic, and
- 0:37Speaker 2: of course we've got to talk about the AAW Women's
- 0:40Speaker 2: World Tag Team Tournament. Who do we think is gonna win?
- 0:43Speaker 2: Babes A Wrath, Timeless Love Bombs, to give some opinions
- 0:47Speaker 2: about the uh, what's going on with the Warner Brothers
- 0:50Speaker 2: Discovery takeover, And of course at the end of the show,
- 0:54Speaker 2: we're gonna do our popea resection, which is always fun.
- 0:58Speaker 2: But we are going to start the show with the
- 1:04Speaker 2: AEW Fat Hub AEW Awards. We've done this, this is
- 1:11Speaker 2: our third year doing it. It's always a lot of fun.
- 1:13Speaker 2: What we're gonna do here is we're gonna take nominations
- 1:16Speaker 2: from the crew here and if you're in Chat or
- 1:19Speaker 2: if you're on Twitter or one of our other social media's,
- 1:23Speaker 2: you can leave your nominations there. Here's the deal. In
- 1:28Speaker 2: each category, you can only nominate one wrestler, one wrestler only.
- 1:34Speaker 2: Do not come up with more than one because it's
- 1:39Speaker 2: just you know, you don't want to name the entire roster.
- 1:44Speaker 2: Let's do one at a time. So let's get started.
- 1:48Speaker 2: We're gonna start with the Men's Wrestler of the Year,
- 1:52Speaker 2: and with this at all the other categories. I do
- 1:57Speaker 2: want to caution everybody on the panel and also anybody
- 2:00Speaker 2: that's going to be voting online or in chat, try
- 2:03Speaker 2: to avoid two things. Try to avoid recency bias. You know,
- 2:10Speaker 2: just because Samoa Joe is the aw Men's World Champion
- 2:15Speaker 2: doesn't mean that he's the Men's Wrestler of the Year.
- 2:18Speaker 2: Somebody else may have been more deserving of it, is
- 2:22Speaker 2: what I'm saying. We're not going by here and now,
- 2:25Speaker 2: we're going by the entire year of twenty twenty five.
- 2:30Speaker 2: That's basically. And also the second thing is keep in
- 2:33Speaker 2: mind that some wrestlers, even though they may be your favorites,
- 2:38Speaker 2: some of them may have not either been wrestling that much,
- 2:43Speaker 2: or they've been because of injuries and whatnot and have
- 2:46Speaker 2: missed most of the year. Is a good example of
- 2:48Speaker 2: that would be I don't know, a good example that
- 2:52Speaker 2: would be MJF. Really I mean, not that he was injured,
- 2:56Speaker 2: but he's been filming, you know, all of these movies
- 2:59Speaker 2: and stuff like that, so you know, keep that into consideration.
- 3:03Speaker 2: All right, So let's get started. We're gonna start with
- 3:08Speaker 2: the a W Men's Wrestler of the Year. Let's hear
- 3:15Speaker 2: your single nominations. Let's go to eb K first.
- 3:22Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna say Kyle Fletcher. He's done a lot,
- 3:26Speaker 3: he's he's got titles and everything, and he's definitely step
- 3:31Speaker 3: up his game.
- 3:33Speaker 2: Okay, let's go to Homsore.
- 3:37Speaker 4: Since I'm sure somebody is gonna pick the big guy,
- 3:41Speaker 4: I'm gonna go a little deeper cut and actually pick
- 3:44Speaker 4: Kazuko Kata. Since the weather's warmed up, he has been
- 3:49Speaker 4: on fire since about April or so. I think this
- 3:52Speaker 4: is kind of the year he's shown that he's a
- 3:54Speaker 4: solid investment for ADEW.
- 3:57Speaker 2: Now I'm interested. After we get through all the h nominations,
- 4:01Speaker 2: I'm gonna come back to you ham Soure and ask
- 4:04Speaker 2: you was the big guy picked. Don't say who the
- 4:06Speaker 2: big guy is but now, but I want to make
- 4:08Speaker 2: sure that the big guy was picked. Barry. Let's go
- 4:12Speaker 2: to you.
- 4:14Speaker 5: Uh, maybe this is the big guy. I'd say it's mos.
- 4:17Speaker 5: I know people ragged on the death writers' storyline, but
- 4:20Speaker 5: he's consistently delivered all year without being injured and big
- 4:24Speaker 5: time matches, getting mid card things going all sorts of
- 4:29Speaker 5: smaller storylines. He's every bit acted like the age of
- 4:32Speaker 5: the company this year.
- 4:36Speaker 2: Okay, Chris, let's go to you.
- 4:39Speaker 6: Okay, Well, I missed a little because someone decided to
- 4:42Speaker 6: call me right as the show was starting, even though
- 4:44Speaker 6: they know I do this every Tuesday. Who has picked already?
- 4:48Speaker 2: So we've had Mox, we've had Okada, and we've had Fletcher.
- 4:54Speaker 6: Okay, well, hang man, obviously hang man. I mean, okay,
- 5:00Speaker 6: say what the pick? This is for men's Wrestler of
- 5:03Speaker 6: the year.
- 5:03Speaker 2: Right, that is correct? Yeah, Women's Wrestler of the Year.
- 5:08Speaker 2: And you'd said hang man, we would have laughed at you. Well,
- 5:12Speaker 2: I wanted to.
- 5:12Speaker 6: Be completely shared. Hey, I don't know how he identifies.
- 5:19Speaker 2: Sudden. Let's go to you on this one.
- 5:21Speaker 7: I got a pause on this one because everybody already
- 5:23Speaker 7: picked Amine.
- 5:25Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I will then put my pick in. As
- 5:32Speaker 2: Kano Skate Takeshta, I gotta go with I gotta go
- 5:35Speaker 2: with with Takeshida, as somebody called him on a podcast
- 5:41Speaker 2: and it cracked me up. Uh So, there you go.
- 5:45Speaker 2: Those are our picks for the men's Wrestlers of the Year.
- 5:52Speaker 2: We don't have Do we have anybody in chat making
- 5:56Speaker 2: any picks yet? No? Okay, so I'm sorry. By the way, Okay,
- 6:04Speaker 2: hom Sore was the big guy picked.
- 6:11Speaker 4: Homsre blog screen went on page. I just assumed somebody
- 6:17Speaker 4: would pick Page.
- 6:20Speaker 2: Don't assume because it come up and bite in the ass.
- 6:24Speaker 4: You're gonna vote on this. He almost had to have
- 6:26Speaker 4: Page at least on the ballot. He was the world
- 6:28Speaker 4: champ for a large russion of the year.
- 6:30Speaker 2: Well, let's go to women's Wrestler of the Year. I'm
- 6:34Speaker 2: gonna go to Sutton first on this one.
- 6:37Speaker 7: I'm gonna go with Chris Statlander.
- 6:39Speaker 2: She's Statlander.
- 6:40Speaker 8: Okay, she had a great year.
- 6:42Speaker 7: She's the champ now, and she deserved to be the
- 6:44Speaker 7: champ because she did a lot of stuff for these
- 6:46Speaker 7: guys this year.
- 6:48Speaker 2: All right, Chris, let's go to you.
- 6:51Speaker 6: I like the stat Lander. I'm gonna go with Tony.
- 6:56Speaker 2: Tony Storm, all right, okay, let's go to you.
- 7:04Speaker 8: It's Mercedes Money. She's done a lot for people.
- 7:07Speaker 3: She's putting people over now finally, and I think it's
- 7:10Speaker 3: well worth putting her on there.
- 7:13Speaker 2: Okay, and let's go to Barry.
- 7:18Speaker 9: Beck left.
- 7:18Speaker 5: She's been a breath of fresh air to the women's division,
- 7:22Speaker 5: brought a lot of juice and a lot of energy,
- 7:24Speaker 5: and it's just been really fun to watch.
- 7:29Speaker 4: And Homsar the first three are definitely we're my main fixs.
- 7:34Speaker 4: But I would say we got to put a teena
- 7:36Speaker 4: on the list. Her match out put's been unbelievable since
- 7:38Speaker 4: the Ginning of the year, continues to be one of
- 7:41Speaker 4: the best talents on either side of the AW roster.
- 7:47Speaker 2: Yep, Okay, well, gee, you guys took every one of
- 7:51Speaker 2: mine out there, so I'm gonna do it. By the way,
- 7:55Speaker 2: this is ae W and r oh, so adding somebody
- 8:00Speaker 2: like Athena is absolutely fine because our oh compliment accomplishments
- 8:09Speaker 2: do count. I should have pointed that out earlier. I'm
- 8:13Speaker 2: gonna say, well, hmmm, I'm gonna say Megan Baine. I
- 8:21Speaker 2: think that since she's come in, she's been a workhorse,
- 8:24Speaker 2: since she's really elevated the division. I think that people
- 8:29Speaker 2: look forward to seeing her. I really do so that's it.
- 8:33Speaker 2: That's my pick. Let's move on again. You know, keep
- 8:38Speaker 2: in mind that there are r oh factions in this
- 8:41Speaker 2: as well. But I'm gonna I'm gonna skip right to
- 8:46Speaker 2: Faction of the Year. I'm gonna lead the tag team
- 8:49Speaker 2: of the Year for a little bit later. Let's go
- 8:52Speaker 2: to the Faction of the Year. What I consider a
- 8:54Speaker 2: faction is any group of three or more, not including
- 9:02Speaker 2: managers and other words with say, somebody like F t R.
- 9:08Speaker 2: Stokely doesn't make him a faction. He's just a manager.
- 9:12Speaker 2: Does that make sense?
- 9:14Speaker 9: Agreed?
- 9:15Speaker 2: You know, I think that they have to wrestle, you know,
- 9:19Speaker 2: have a serious wrestling match to be able to be
- 9:23Speaker 2: considered a faction. Okay, so Faction of the Year, let's
- 9:26Speaker 2: go to Uh, I'm gonna go to Berry first on
- 9:29Speaker 2: this one.
- 9:30Speaker 5: I'm going with Brodido. They kicked off kind of the resurgence.
- 9:35Speaker 2: Let me let me uh, let me stop you there.
- 9:39Speaker 5: Uh we're in fashion. Yeah, yeah, all right, I'm gonna pass.
- 9:45Speaker 5: I'm I don't have a pick.
- 9:48Speaker 2: You got to have raise raise your hand or grunt
- 9:55Speaker 2: or something if you do have one. After he goes, so,
- 9:57Speaker 2: let's I'm gonna go to hamsar oh Man.
- 10:05Speaker 10: That's a tough one. I actually didn't write anything down.
- 10:07Speaker 4: I guess I'm just gonna go ahead and pick Death
- 10:09Speaker 4: Writers because I feel like since about well, I don't
- 10:14Speaker 4: know when the turn after this word match, I feel
- 10:16Speaker 4: like their program has been really great since then, So
- 10:20Speaker 4: I think for most that would give us nine months
- 10:22Speaker 4: or so out.
- 10:23Speaker 10: Of the year that they were really really good. And
- 10:26Speaker 10: I think they've been in that positive So I'm gonna
- 10:27Speaker 10: pick that writers.
- 10:29Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Chris.
- 10:32Speaker 6: I actually would have gone Death Writer. You know, I've
- 10:36Speaker 6: been not a fan of the whole interference thing they do,
- 10:39Speaker 6: but I can't deny the success they so I would
- 10:43Speaker 6: have picked them. Might going with a sort of left
- 10:47Speaker 6: field pick and say Shane Taylor Promotions. I don't keep
- 10:52Speaker 6: up with r awaits as much of my life, but
- 10:54Speaker 6: I know they've been doing some great things down there.
- 10:56Speaker 6: They have the three to ohs or six Man's tied. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 11:04Speaker 6: I'm gonna go, say Tyler Promo.
- 11:07Speaker 2: Okay, let's go to MKH.
- 11:10Speaker 8: The Triangle of Madness is what it's called. Yes, yeah,
- 11:15Speaker 8: I think.
- 11:15Speaker 3: They've really gelled together. I really hope more success comes
- 11:19Speaker 3: to their way, but they've they've done an excellent job,
- 11:23Speaker 3: all right.
- 11:24Speaker 2: And Suddon Conglomeration, the the conglomeration, Okay.
- 11:29Speaker 7: You're just they're just some. That's some of the funniest
- 11:32Speaker 7: stuff going on the show right now when they're there.
- 11:34Speaker 9: So I kind of liked them. Okay, I gotta tell
- 11:38Speaker 9: some Go ahead, Barry.
- 11:40Speaker 5: I am actually shocked nobody said this the don Callus.
- 11:43Speaker 2: Family, Thank you so much.
- 11:47Speaker 10: Take your like, like.
- 11:52Speaker 2: I had another one behind that, but but just nobody calls.
- 11:58Speaker 5: Family because of legal stuff and an injury. Like it's absurd.
- 12:04Speaker 5: So all right, go ahead, gil Sidira.
- 12:06Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna go to Hurt Syndicate. I could pick
- 12:09Speaker 2: them confidently because MVP does wrestle, uh, but I think
- 12:13Speaker 2: the Hurt Syndicate, you know, we should belong in this.
- 12:17Speaker 2: Let's then move on, Barry. Okay, we'll go to the
- 12:21Speaker 2: Tag Team of a Year and I'll let you go first.
- 12:25Speaker 5: As I was saying, Broddo, they brought a breath of
- 12:28Speaker 5: fresh air into the Tag division and it was a
- 12:31Speaker 5: win that was really fun and not really expected by
- 12:34Speaker 5: most people.
- 12:35Speaker 9: They had a.
- 12:36Speaker 5: Really, really fun run and I was I'm really glad
- 12:39Speaker 5: I got to watch that this year. It just it
- 12:41Speaker 5: was really fun.
- 12:42Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's go to something since his mic
- 12:45Speaker 2: is open.
- 12:46Speaker 7: I'm gonna go with the Yes Speed.
- 12:51Speaker 6: I like what they do.
- 12:53Speaker 7: I think they're going to be the future of the
- 12:54Speaker 7: Tag team division and I like them a lot.
- 13:00Speaker 2: All right, Okay, let's go to you.
- 13:04Speaker 3: It surprises me to say this, but I really think
- 13:06Speaker 3: it needs to go to the gum Bucks. They they
- 13:09Speaker 3: that I'm not sure if they're heel or face honestly anymore.
- 13:13Speaker 8: They really deserve it because they've been able.
- 13:15Speaker 3: To make them if people laughing then and they they've
- 13:19Speaker 3: really won me over this year.
- 13:21Speaker 2: Fair enough, Uh, let's go to Homsar.
- 13:25Speaker 9: Yeah.
- 13:26Speaker 4: I was gonna pick the gum Books too, but I'm
- 13:27Speaker 4: gonna go with FTR. I feel like and stokely shored
- 13:30Speaker 4: up their weakest point, which was listening to Dicks on
- 13:34Speaker 4: the mic too much. He brings a lot of variety,
- 13:37Speaker 4: and I think they're working. The ring speaks for itself,
- 13:40Speaker 4: and I think they're gonna go on a really good
- 13:42Speaker 4: run here with the Tag Belt the end of the year.
- 13:45Speaker 2: All right, Well, Chris is you're gonna go up first
- 13:48Speaker 2: on the next one. I'm gonna let you go last
- 13:49Speaker 2: on this one.
- 13:50Speaker 6: Well so.
- 13:55Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and.
- 13:58Speaker 6: I have the whole thing I was gonna be like
- 14:00Speaker 6: today is the greatest thing of my life. Yeah, I'm
- 14:06Speaker 6: gonna have to pass because honestly, everyone picked the teams
- 14:10Speaker 6: I would have picked, Like, there's no other teams that
- 14:16Speaker 6: really stick out to me besides the ones that have
- 14:19Speaker 6: already been mentioned.
- 14:22Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I'm just gonna just just to throw
- 14:27Speaker 2: it to the win. I'm gonna say, uh, timeless love Bombs.
- 14:33Speaker 2: Even though they really haven't been a team that long,
- 14:35Speaker 2: I think that they've made an impact. They've been, you know,
- 14:42Speaker 2: greater than the ring. They're in the finals of the
- 14:44Speaker 2: Women's World Tag Team Tournament, and they're Their interviews and
- 14:50Speaker 2: backstage shenanigans have been really good. So you know, here's
- 14:57Speaker 2: the up year signal to everybody from the tipland slub bombs.
- 15:02Speaker 2: All right, Chris, most improved wrestler of the year. You've
- 15:06Speaker 2: been waiting with baited breath, Thank you for your patience.
- 15:09Speaker 2: Hit us with your shocking surprise pick.
- 15:13Speaker 6: Jungle Jack Perry. I know he hasn't really, I mean,
- 15:17Speaker 6: he's been out for most of the year, but the
- 15:24Speaker 6: the change not back to his old gimmick, but going
- 15:28Speaker 6: back to that and blending it with you know what,
- 15:31Speaker 6: he had his escape goat. I think it's just completely
- 15:35Speaker 6: revitalized his character. And I am really and as much
- 15:40Speaker 6: as it sucks that Darby is out of the Continental Classic,
- 15:43Speaker 6: I'm really excited to see what Jack Perry will do
- 15:47Speaker 6: in there. And I think he has a I think
- 15:52Speaker 6: he has a big twenty twenty six in store. Oh yeah,
- 15:57Speaker 6: Jack Parry.
- 15:59Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna go to ab k.
- 16:02Speaker 7: Uh.
- 16:03Speaker 3: I'm gonna say Megan Bang. I really think first she
- 16:07Speaker 3: was a little unsteady when she came in, but she's
- 16:09Speaker 3: really hit it good. She's she's good good in that
- 16:13Speaker 3: tag campionship. So I really think it's her.
- 16:18Speaker 2: All right, and let's go to something then. Harley Cameron.
- 16:22Speaker 7: She's improved a ton this year and I really think
- 16:26Speaker 7: that she's gonna be someone to watch in the next
- 16:29Speaker 7: few years.
- 16:31Speaker 2: Our winner of the award last year was Harley Cameron,
- 16:34Speaker 2: and so she's being nominated to before to have improved
- 16:39Speaker 2: even beyond that. Interesting. I'm gonna go to Homoswarp.
- 16:43Speaker 10: Oh, I uh, he's good.
- 16:44Speaker 4: Picks. I like the Perry pick. I'd just been talking
- 16:47Speaker 4: about how sharp his work has looked since he's come back.
- 16:50Speaker 4: It's really he looks almost like a different guy. But
- 16:54Speaker 4: I am gonna pick a little bit of a controversial pick,
- 16:57Speaker 4: and probably a lot of people's picked last year, which
- 16:59Speaker 4: is kind of Fletcher. Kyle Fletcher's a guy that I've
- 17:03Speaker 4: always kind of liked, well, I've respected as a wrestler,
- 17:07Speaker 4: and I liked his improvement, but I've never really liked
- 17:09Speaker 4: too much go go a lot of like young will
- 17:11Speaker 4: Osprey in there. But this year he has really kind
- 17:15Speaker 4: of learned to sell and slow down matches, and I've
- 17:17Speaker 4: just been insanely impressed. Like I'm totally with the people
- 17:21Speaker 4: who last year were saying that Kyle Fletcher is a
- 17:23Speaker 4: future world champ. I think he's he's really become a
- 17:26Speaker 4: top guy in a class guy in this company.
- 17:28Speaker 2: Now, all right, and let's go to Barry Queen Aminada.
- 17:34Speaker 5: Sometimes there's a performer that just kind of sits it
- 17:37Speaker 5: up a little category and for one reason or another, you.
- 17:40Speaker 9: Can just watch him put it all together.
- 17:42Speaker 5: There's been a couple picks that kind of meet that
- 17:44Speaker 5: that some folks have already said. And I really think
- 17:47Speaker 5: when she comes out there. She feels like a big
- 17:49Speaker 5: name now and I'm looking forward to her when she's
- 17:52Speaker 5: coming back from injury, getting right back in the thick
- 17:54Speaker 5: of things and hopefully got on for our first title.
- 18:00Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go with brody King and that's it's
- 18:04Speaker 2: kind of a controversial pick, but he's always been good.
- 18:09Speaker 2: I don't want to say that he wasn't believe me,
- 18:12Speaker 2: but his partnership with Brodido has brought out another side
- 18:17Speaker 2: to him and I just think that it has improved him,
- 18:23Speaker 2: not only in the ring, which he's doing did things
- 18:26Speaker 2: in the ring now that he has not done in
- 18:27Speaker 2: the past where has not done that often, but also
- 18:31Speaker 2: as far as just character. Even though he was in
- 18:34Speaker 2: the House of Black, which was all character driven, brody
- 18:38Speaker 2: King just seems like an improved version of himself.
- 18:43Speaker 9: He got over organically. I mean it was gorgeous to
- 18:45Speaker 9: watch he own.
- 18:48Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.
- 18:51Speaker 1: Uh.
- 18:53Speaker 2: Now, next, I want to go to, frankly, two of
- 18:56Speaker 2: my favorite categories, and we're gonna start with Babyface of
- 18:59Speaker 2: the Year Year and Barry. I'm gonna go to you first.
- 19:03Speaker 9: Oh, this is a good one. I wasn't prepared for this.
- 19:06Speaker 9: I was focusing on Heel of the Year, baby Face
- 19:09Speaker 9: of the Year.
- 19:10Speaker 5: You know, I'm gonna go with one of the folks
- 19:12Speaker 5: that said most improved wrestler of the year, one of
- 19:14Speaker 5: the one of the quick picks.
- 19:15Speaker 9: I'm gonna go with Harley Cameron on this.
- 19:17Speaker 5: She has quickly established herself this year as the fan
- 19:21Speaker 5: favorite incapable of ever not being over. It doesn't matter
- 19:25Speaker 5: if she loses and she comes out and she's she
- 19:28Speaker 5: has that will Osprey good guy feeling, you know, I mean,
- 19:31Speaker 5: clearly not the same with the ring, but she's just
- 19:34Speaker 5: she just is great when she's out there. You just
- 19:36Speaker 5: you just want to low her and eat her up.
- 19:39Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna go to m K.
- 19:42Speaker 3: So I'm gonna say, Kyle O'Reilly, he's really done good.
- 19:48Speaker 3: He made a believer out of me. I think really
- 19:50Speaker 3: him getting away from Adam Cole and being his own
- 19:52Speaker 3: person and being and Para gone has really helped him
- 19:56Speaker 3: a bunch. And he doesn't need anybody else. He's funny organically,
- 20:00Speaker 3: and he's a good wrestler.
- 20:02Speaker 2: Okay, uh, Homsar, what do you say?
- 20:05Speaker 10: Yeah, I think there's some great picks.
- 20:07Speaker 4: I I'm gonna pick maybe the guy who I think
- 20:11Speaker 4: is kind of getting the big react right now, which
- 20:13Speaker 4: is Kevin Knight, guy that has come from being kind
- 20:17Speaker 4: of a big player in New Japan but putting in
- 20:21Speaker 4: some really great work in the junior's division to really
- 20:24Speaker 4: I think me and c is kind of one of
- 20:26Speaker 4: the the big young stars of the company, and he's
- 20:30Speaker 4: incredibly over at the live crowd.
- 20:34Speaker 2: All right, and uh, let's go to Sutton.
- 20:38Speaker 7: I really don't have a pick here. You guys have
- 20:40Speaker 7: said the ones I was thinking, So I got a pass.
- 20:43Speaker 2: All right, what about you, Chris?
- 20:46Speaker 6: Uh? I have two that I really liked that I
- 20:50Speaker 6: think are good Night.
- 20:55Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 20:57Speaker 6: I was between him and Willow.
- 20:59Speaker 2: But I'm gonna go Astree, Okay, okay something. You don't
- 21:09Speaker 2: have a pick then, right? Yeah? No pick baby Face
- 21:15Speaker 2: of the Year. This is tough because I tend with me.
- 21:22Speaker 2: I like the baby faces who were tweeterers basically, you know,
- 21:26Speaker 2: like on the edge, like I always loved mal Kai
- 21:29Speaker 2: Black for that reason, I'm gonna go Swerve Strickland, even
- 21:37Speaker 2: though he's a good guy that does bad things and
- 21:41Speaker 2: I love that about Swerve. Let's go to Heal of
- 21:47Speaker 2: the Year something. Since you didn't have a pick this
- 21:49Speaker 2: last time, I'm gonna go to you.
- 21:52Speaker 6: Don't callous.
- 21:54Speaker 7: There's not a bigger heal on aw than Don't Callous.
- 21:58Speaker 9: That's great kick.
- 22:00Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm so glad you did that. I agree. Well,
- 22:04Speaker 2: let's let's go to Let's go to Chris.
- 22:09Speaker 6: I would argue there might be one bigger heal than
- 22:11Speaker 6: John Kallas.
- 22:13Speaker 2: Moxley, John Moxley. And by the way, Net has arrived,
- 22:18Speaker 2: and Net, what we are talking about. We are nominating
- 22:21Speaker 2: one person each mm hmm, and we're on Heel of
- 22:27Speaker 2: the Year, so I'll give you a few seconds to
- 22:29Speaker 2: think about it. And then we've already nominated John Moxley,
- 22:33Speaker 2: and we've already nominated Don Kallis uh and and now
- 22:39Speaker 2: I can't remember who are who picked uh? Sutton and
- 22:43Speaker 2: who else? Okay, all right, so let's go to Barry.
- 22:49Speaker 2: Since he was concentrating on heal the year when we
- 22:51Speaker 2: were doing I'm.
- 22:53Speaker 9: Surprised nobody got my guy, So I'm going with.
- 22:58Speaker 6: It.
- 22:58Speaker 9: Has been just so much.
- 23:02Speaker 5: Fun to watch him this year establish such a great
- 23:06Speaker 5: character that he is so comfortable in. He's working with
- 23:09Speaker 5: the gates of agony and the demand. It's just he
- 23:13Speaker 5: is the perfect mid card to upper mid card, top
- 23:16Speaker 5: heel that can play at the at the main event
- 23:20Speaker 5: scene whenever they need him to plug and play like
- 23:22Speaker 5: he is just in a great position.
- 23:24Speaker 2: Now I can't argue with you there. Who else is left? Mkay?
- 23:35Speaker 9: Oh crap, I just lost it.
- 23:37Speaker 8: Mercedes Monette.
- 23:41Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, she's the one person everybody wants to
- 23:44Speaker 3: lose those titles. She does a great job at being
- 23:49Speaker 3: a you know, she's kind of one dimensional, I will
- 23:51Speaker 3: say that, but she does a great job at playing
- 23:53Speaker 3: the hill and she's put over a lot of people.
- 23:56Speaker 3: She put over stat and she just got done putting
- 23:58Speaker 3: over Red Veil, but which I didn't see coming.
- 24:01Speaker 2: Okay, uh hopswar, let's go to you.
- 24:04Speaker 4: Yeah, man, that's a that's a tough one. He got
- 24:09Speaker 4: mine right there at the end. I'm gonna pick I
- 24:16Speaker 4: think I'm gonna actually pick Pack because I think going
- 24:19Speaker 4: forward out of the Death Riders, he's kind of the
- 24:22Speaker 4: guy I feel like who has a lot of momentum.
- 24:25Speaker 4: He's insanely jack. Now I'm the only really questioned mark
- 24:29Speaker 4: is his injury with him, So you know, I think
- 24:33Speaker 4: he's gonna go ham next year. But I also think
- 24:36Speaker 4: his work from this year has been exceptional minus a
- 24:39Speaker 4: little bit of miss time as his usual.
- 24:42Speaker 2: Right, Well, that here is your opportunity to shine.
- 24:46Speaker 11: All right, everyone, my pick for Heel of the Year.
- 24:53Speaker 11: It's two people, but they go together.
- 24:55Speaker 2: It's ft No, no, no, don't okay, yeah, we can
- 24:58Speaker 2: do Yeah, it's a TV have two people.
- 25:01Speaker 11: No, they go together. I'd have to give it to FTR.
- 25:07Speaker 12: And that is because I.
- 25:09Speaker 11: Don't think anyone wanted to see them win the tag
- 25:13Speaker 11: titles again. And they are universal harassers of everyone. They
- 25:20Speaker 11: don't have a nice thing to say to anybody. They
- 25:24Speaker 11: bother the people in the crowd, the fans, they're just
- 25:28Speaker 11: they're the worst.
- 25:29Speaker 9: For me.
- 25:30Speaker 12: That's my pick.
- 25:32Speaker 2: Okay, well my pick, and I am not only shocked,
- 25:35Speaker 2: I'm disappointed at each and every one of you for
- 25:38Speaker 2: not picking this person because they don't even have to
- 25:41Speaker 2: do anything and they get hated. And that's Wheeler you to.
- 25:45Speaker 2: How could you guys leave Wheeler?
- 25:47Speaker 9: You to out of the good people.
- 25:57Speaker 6: Don't hate him because you hate him because he's a little.
- 26:03Speaker 9: He figured that out, man figured it out. He figured
- 26:10Speaker 9: it out.
- 26:10Speaker 2: You could say what you want about his wrestling ability
- 26:13Speaker 2: or whatnot. And you're right, Berry, he figured it out.
- 26:17Speaker 2: He doesn't even have to say it or do anything.
- 26:19Speaker 2: He just walks like if you so, it's so underrated.
- 26:28Speaker 10: People don't get it like he's like so much.
- 26:30Speaker 5: He's like, yes, everything you hate about him, he figured
- 26:33Speaker 5: it out.
- 26:34Speaker 9: He figured it.
- 26:35Speaker 2: Out, you know what. And I will say this about
- 26:37Speaker 2: Wheeler Yuta if he was one of the people that
- 26:40Speaker 2: would go to like w W E or t NA
- 26:44Speaker 2: or wherever people be like, oh man, I'm gonna miss
- 26:47Speaker 2: call you know, saying fu you to to everybody. But
- 26:50Speaker 2: let's move on. Uh, this is a fun category. It's
- 26:53Speaker 2: our last category, character work of the Year, and I'm
- 26:57Speaker 2: gonna go to NET first. This one.
- 27:02Speaker 12: Okay, character work of the year.
- 27:06Speaker 9: Let's see.
- 27:08Speaker 11: I would probably have to give it to Tony Storm.
- 27:11Speaker 11: She's just been phenomenal. But if we yeah, if we
- 27:17Speaker 11: have to pick one, I would have to say Tony Storm.
- 27:20Speaker 2: Okay, let's go to MK.
- 27:26Speaker 3: I'm gonna say Megan Baine. She's become a beast. Like
- 27:30Speaker 3: I love watching her entrance. I wish they want to
- 27:32Speaker 3: make it better where where like it used to be
- 27:34Speaker 3: when she was on Dark with people coming down. But
- 27:38Speaker 3: she's she's really good at what she does. She sells
- 27:41Speaker 3: being a beast, and she does it really well.
- 27:45Speaker 2: All Right, I'm sore. Let's go to you got on
- 27:54Speaker 2: you give.
- 27:55Speaker 10: Me a second on this one. I just headed in
- 27:57Speaker 10: my head and I lost it.
- 27:58Speaker 2: Okay, Well then let's go to Bear.
- 28:01Speaker 5: All right, I kind of get gave a preview of
- 28:03Speaker 5: this one. But I'm going with Wheeler Yuda. Like I
- 28:05Speaker 5: was saying, this year, he just he really figured it
- 28:10Speaker 5: out on how to be just a great heel with
- 28:14Speaker 5: doing as little as possible to get heat. He just
- 28:17Speaker 5: he makes you hate him and all of the right ways.
- 28:20Speaker 5: That just tells you he knew what. He just figured
- 28:24Speaker 5: it out. He knows what to do in the ring,
- 28:27Speaker 5: how to take pins the right way if he's if
- 28:30Speaker 5: he's getting pinned, how to just get the cheap heat
- 28:33Speaker 5: and the little sniffling eye. He's just so good. I
- 28:35Speaker 5: just all of his heel work this year, it just
- 28:38Speaker 5: was so good.
- 28:39Speaker 9: It was just so good.
- 28:41Speaker 2: All right, Let's go to Chris.
- 28:43Speaker 6: Uh Tony Storm would have been my top pick, and
- 28:46Speaker 6: I gotta get very like what he said about you
- 28:49Speaker 6: to its spot on. You know he's but yeah, he's
- 28:53Speaker 6: on that. So I'm gonna go with Oh Tata.
- 29:03Speaker 2: Yeah, bitch, that's a good choice. That's a great choice.
- 29:07Speaker 4: Uh The I pushed the wrong button is the line
- 29:10Speaker 4: of the year, so funny.
- 29:14Speaker 2: Sorry, sorry, let's all do let's do all yeah, let's
- 29:22Speaker 2: all together. Now, let's do our racist Japanese.
- 29:28Speaker 10: That's funny. He's making that such a good gag.
- 29:32Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go to you.
- 29:35Speaker 7: I'm gonna go with Ricochet because, uh, Ricochet has quickly
- 29:40Speaker 7: made himself one of the most hated people. Not quite
- 29:43Speaker 7: on the level of Uta or Don Kallas, but he's
- 29:47Speaker 7: up there and his obnoxiousness and everything, he has got
- 29:53Speaker 7: that worked out almost perfect.
- 29:59Speaker 2: I guess hang, I'm sorry, go ahead, Yeah, all.
- 30:02Speaker 4: Right, I'm gonna vote. I'm gonna vote the Ace Adam
- 30:05Speaker 4: Page on this one. Man, I feel like we have
- 30:09Speaker 4: lacked like a Babyface Run where somebody actually kept the
- 30:14Speaker 4: advantage over the Heel team. I know he lost in
- 30:16Speaker 4: the end, Man, he really did a good job kind
- 30:19Speaker 4: of fighting off the odds and overcoming and kind of
- 30:22Speaker 4: turning Babyface Run into not looking like a schmuck constantly,
- 30:27Speaker 4: which is such a breath fresh air just for the
- 30:29Speaker 4: main events scene in general.
- 30:33Speaker 2: Well, my pick, I didn't miss anybody, did I I
- 30:39Speaker 2: didn't think. I did proud of myself that I went
- 30:42Speaker 2: through this whole thing and didn't leave anybody out. My
- 30:45Speaker 2: pick is really easy for me. The entrance music alone
- 30:50Speaker 2: does it for me, not to mention just the the
- 30:55Speaker 2: heat that he gets and of course his wrestler introduction,
- 31:00Speaker 2: it's don Kallis is the character work of the year
- 31:03Speaker 2: for me. Guys, that was a lot of fun. See
- 31:10Speaker 2: what we're gonna do is, uh, we're going to pick.
- 31:13Speaker 2: We're going to commensurate and we're going to pick out
- 31:16Speaker 2: of all these picks, We're going to pick four in
- 31:19Speaker 2: each category, and then we will put them up for
- 31:21Speaker 2: a poll next week on the socials for the aw
- 31:25Speaker 2: fan Hub and the community will be able to vote
- 31:29Speaker 2: until probably like December twenty ninth or something like that,
- 31:33Speaker 2: when we will reveal the aw fat Hubs prestigious by
- 31:38Speaker 2: the way, the prestigious aw Fat Hub Awards. So be
- 31:44Speaker 2: on the lookout in the next few days for the
- 31:48Speaker 2: polls to be up. We'll put them up on Reddit,
- 31:50Speaker 2: we'll put them up on you know to vote for
- 31:53Speaker 2: a Blue Sky and Twitter and of course our discord
- 31:57Speaker 2: and if you look at if you're watching this, you
- 31:59Speaker 2: can see on the screen, the discord, the discord, oh
- 32:05Speaker 2: my god, the invite link book. God, we kind of
- 32:08Speaker 2: figure it out, Woo woo, and then we'll get these
- 32:12Speaker 2: things done. Okay, we're going to move on. We're not
- 32:15Speaker 2: going to really talk about the matches that are upcoming,
- 32:20Speaker 2: but we are going to talk about what's been going
- 32:22Speaker 2: on with the Continental Classic. I just wanted to ask,
- 32:26Speaker 2: you know, is there anything that you see that has
- 32:28Speaker 2: stood out? And by the way, again for people that
- 32:32Speaker 2: are watching this and not on Spotify and listening to
- 32:36Speaker 2: it there or you know, on the podcast things the
- 32:41Speaker 2: graphic does say Saturday, December thirteenth and four point thirty
- 32:44Speaker 2: Eastern time. Please make a note that that collision is
- 32:48Speaker 2: on Saturday, coast to coast, but it does have a
- 32:54Speaker 2: much earlier start time. I think it's because the mumpt
- 33:00Speaker 2: reunion show is Saturday night, if I'm not mistaken. But anyway,
- 33:04Speaker 2: what do we think about the Continental Classic thus far?
- 33:07Speaker 2: Is it meeting your expectations for the Muppets? Okay, yeah,
- 33:36Speaker 2: So anyway, what do we think about the Continental Classic?
- 33:38Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, we've had what a couple of
- 33:42Speaker 2: wrestlers have done three matches, most have done two. There's
- 33:45Speaker 2: a couple that have only done one, Jack Berry replacing
- 33:49Speaker 2: Darby Allen. It's only you know, Darby only had one.
- 33:54Speaker 2: Jack Berry has not wrestled yet. So but what are
- 33:57Speaker 2: we what are our overall thoughts so far after the
- 33:59Speaker 2: first two full weeks of the Continental Classic.
- 34:04Speaker 9: I think you.
- 34:05Speaker 6: Enjoyed it so far. There's been some great masses, some
- 34:10Speaker 6: definite surprises, you know, good story stuff even you know,
- 34:16Speaker 6: outside of it being the Continental Classic. I'm really looking
- 34:21Speaker 6: forward to seeing some of the matches that maybe on
- 34:26Speaker 6: paper are a little strained, because sometimes those end up
- 34:32Speaker 6: being the most fun matches of all. Like master a
- 34:37Speaker 6: Dorado versus Tequeska. That should be interesting.
- 34:43Speaker 2: Oh that's going to be a war that's going to
- 34:45Speaker 2: be more than interesting.
- 34:47Speaker 10: Not to me.
- 34:48Speaker 6: Yeah, but you know, there are two guys who, you know,
- 34:51Speaker 6: stylistically are very different, and I think we saw with
- 34:57Speaker 6: you know, Dorato versus Claudio that it worked out really well.
- 35:02Speaker 6: So I definitely interested to see what Jack Perry does.
- 35:06Speaker 6: You know, I said it stuck to Darby Allen's out,
- 35:09Speaker 6: but I'm excited to say with Jack Perry will too
- 35:13Speaker 6: that he's now that he's got his hings.
- 35:17Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they've done a better job overall just
- 35:19Speaker 4: keeping the story going this year. I think one of
- 35:22Speaker 4: the kind of original sins of Death Writers last year.
- 35:25Speaker 4: And I've said this before, I'm sure on this podcast,
- 35:28Speaker 4: was the whole turn happened at you know, the title
- 35:33Speaker 4: switch happened at full gear, and then the Death Writers
- 35:35Speaker 4: was basically put on the back burner until January. I
- 35:38Speaker 4: don't know that it's even mentioned much with I'm sure
- 35:41Speaker 4: they talked about it when the Claudio had matches, but
- 35:43Speaker 4: it's really like it's it's maintained a lot better pace
- 35:46Speaker 4: this year in terms of the overall show, and you know,
- 35:50Speaker 4: I still think they've got the chance to put those
- 35:52Speaker 4: big matches on.
- 35:53Speaker 9: And I think for the.
- 35:54Speaker 4: Most part, I didn't like I didn't like the Derby
- 35:56Speaker 4: pick in the first place.
- 35:57Speaker 10: I wanted Perry there.
- 35:58Speaker 4: So I'm not gonna you know, I'm not going to
- 36:02Speaker 4: say that, like you know, im pre makes you hate
- 36:04Speaker 4: to see guys get hurt. But I do think like
- 36:07Speaker 4: I like the picks that they brought in. I kind
- 36:10Speaker 4: of wrote down like, even though I love both the guys,
- 36:14Speaker 4: I did not want to see Brodi King, I did
- 36:15Speaker 4: not want to see Mark Brisco again in the tournament,
- 36:17Speaker 4: So I think it's gonna a good job mix in
- 36:20Speaker 4: some some names like Moxley that I kind of expected
- 36:23Speaker 4: to see with some some fresh faces. I think Dorada's
- 36:26Speaker 4: inclusion is good too. I would have liked sitting ATCHI
- 36:29Speaker 4: s maybe in the other group, but I'm not going
- 36:31Speaker 4: to complain about having Dorott. He's amazing.
- 36:35Speaker 5: The something else I've they've now solidified. First off, I
- 36:40Speaker 5: love Continental Classic season. I just want to get that
- 36:42Speaker 5: up front. These are have been the last three years
- 36:45Speaker 5: usually some of the strongest TV that AW does from
- 36:50Speaker 5: a flow perspective, because the matches all make sense and
- 36:53Speaker 5: why they're going on, and then they can just pepper
- 36:55Speaker 5: it in with one or two matches to further other storylines.
- 36:59Speaker 5: It's just some of the TV. But one of the
- 37:01Speaker 5: things that I think they've clearly established with this season
- 37:05Speaker 5: that is very important is that there are going to
- 37:08Speaker 5: be upsets, and this year they did those upsets very early,
- 37:12Speaker 5: and I think that was really smart because previously they
- 37:15Speaker 5: would hold those upsets in the end and when everyone's like, oh, well,
- 37:18Speaker 5: somebody's got to get their one win or whatever. But
- 37:21Speaker 5: with the ones they've done so far, I think the
- 37:24Speaker 5: fans believe anybody can win in these matches, and then
- 37:26Speaker 5: they start to expect the upsets, and that's when they
- 37:29Speaker 5: really get them, when aw finally gets the fans on
- 37:33Speaker 5: that hook, and maybe it'll be next year where they
- 37:35Speaker 5: know it can happen and they expect it. When's the
- 37:38Speaker 5: first one going to go down? That's when this is
- 37:40Speaker 5: really going to peak as an annual thing. But all
- 37:43Speaker 5: in all, I've really enjoyed it this year for sure.
- 37:45Speaker 8: Yeah, I agree with that.
- 37:46Speaker 3: I really am particularly happy with the fact that they
- 37:50Speaker 3: chose not to book current champions in there so that
- 37:54Speaker 3: they can do their own thing as well. But the
- 37:55Speaker 3: last year Daniel Garcia kind of got swept under the
- 37:58Speaker 3: rub when he was T and T champion. But they're
- 38:00Speaker 3: doing good and I was really really surprised that Dorado
- 38:03Speaker 3: beat Claudio. I was really happy they gave.
- 38:05Speaker 8: Him a chance to showing.
- 38:08Speaker 9: I was legit shocked, legit shocked.
- 38:12Speaker 2: Anybody else with a opinion about this year's Continental Classic.
- 38:20Speaker 5: So I want to bring up about that Claudio Durada match.
- 38:26Speaker 5: I think ex Caliber tipped the hand on the finish.
- 38:29Speaker 5: When the match started, he said, Claudio is a history
- 38:32Speaker 5: of struggling against smaller opponents, and I thought that was
- 38:35Speaker 5: a weird thing to bring up until after the finish
- 38:38Speaker 5: and I'm like ex Caliber told us who is going
- 38:41Speaker 5: to win there?
- 38:41Speaker 9: Man? Well, something.
- 38:45Speaker 6: Had trouble against Luca Doors, which is at touched. You
- 38:50Speaker 6: know Claudio traditionally, even in WWE, he had trouble against
- 38:57Speaker 6: Luca Door's Lucas style wrestlers.
- 38:59Speaker 9: You know.
- 39:00Speaker 6: So I think it was a little bit of telegraphing there,
- 39:04Speaker 6: but I mean it is it is historically accurate to
- 39:10Speaker 6: Claudio's career, so I mean it's something you got it mentioned.
- 39:15Speaker 2: So the CBL World Heavyweight Champion has trouble with luchadors.
- 39:21Speaker 10: I think a barrel with arms attached.
- 39:32Speaker 2: Did you have an opinion?
- 39:35Speaker 11: I just like the Continental Classic all around. This is
- 39:38Speaker 11: one of my favorite times in wrestling. I like who
- 39:42Speaker 11: they have in there. Uh, and I think it's just
- 39:46Speaker 11: gonna be good all around. I was surprised with the
- 39:52Speaker 11: Claudio match as well, but I'm glad that it played
- 39:55Speaker 11: out that way.
- 39:58Speaker 9: What else?
- 39:58Speaker 11: I hate the Darby's in, but I think jungle Jack
- 40:03Speaker 11: needs a moment to shine and maybe this is his
- 40:06Speaker 11: takeoff moment to really no longer be an escapegoat and
- 40:11Speaker 11: being a good guy.
- 40:13Speaker 12: So we'll see.
- 40:15Speaker 4: Well, I have a hard time kind of when I
- 40:17Speaker 4: think of like Perry's best mansions, it's always with his peers,
- 40:20Speaker 4: It's always with m JF. This is like, this is
- 40:23Speaker 4: the time where I think he's get a chance to
- 40:24Speaker 4: show some diversity and really like hopefully kind of cement
- 40:28Speaker 4: himself as a as leveled up a little bit.
- 40:31Speaker 10: I think he needs it.
- 40:33Speaker 2: You know what. I kind of have to be the
- 40:36Speaker 2: voice of dissension here. And I don't want to make
- 40:42Speaker 2: it sound like I hate the hate the Continental Classic,
- 40:46Speaker 2: but I don't because I don't. The first Continental Classic
- 40:51Speaker 2: put a huge bad taste in my mouth that after
- 40:56Speaker 2: that fiasco, I was like, let's not ever do this again. Okay,
- 41:03Speaker 2: that's just my honest opinion. Now, last year's Continental Classic,
- 41:08Speaker 2: it was good. I enjoyed it. This year's Continental Classic,
- 41:12Speaker 2: I can honestly say I have very very little interest
- 41:16Speaker 2: in it. I do not know why, but I can't
- 41:21Speaker 2: follow the matches. I just can't, especially like the later
- 41:28Speaker 2: matches in the shows. I watched the first couple matches
- 41:31Speaker 2: and then the last match because they generally had three
- 41:35Speaker 2: on each show. I don't think I've seen the main
- 41:38Speaker 2: event matches. I haven't seen any of them because I've
- 41:42Speaker 2: just lost interest. I think some of that has to
- 41:47Speaker 2: do with I don't know. I'm just not invested in
- 41:52Speaker 2: who wins this. It doesn't mean anything to me. And
- 41:56Speaker 2: I think a lot of that has to do with
- 41:59Speaker 2: there's three belts. There's an International, Continental, and Unified Belt,
- 42:05Speaker 2: and to this day, I still don't know the distinction
- 42:07Speaker 2: between them. And I had to be honest with you,
- 42:09Speaker 2: I don't care if those three belts were to go away,
- 42:12Speaker 2: and what bothered me at all. That's just the way
- 42:15Speaker 2: I feel about it. I mean, they and there's so
- 42:18Speaker 2: many people to do to this day. I just saw
- 42:20Speaker 2: a post about it this week. You know, what is
- 42:24Speaker 2: the difference between these belts? They they're not explaining them.
- 42:29Speaker 2: I'm sorry, and I'm not and I don't care enough
- 42:32Speaker 2: to find out.
- 42:33Speaker 7: I think I think the problem is that people think
- 42:35Speaker 7: there's a difference between them being the Belts as a
- 42:39Speaker 7: trio as opposed to what they were bringing. The only
- 42:43Speaker 7: belt that is difference the Unified Belt. The other two
- 42:45Speaker 7: are still considered to be the same as they were before.
- 42:48Speaker 7: They're just included in the trio.
- 42:52Speaker 6: That's the problem that I'm sorry, Yeah, that is a
- 42:56Speaker 6: big problem. You need to get rid of those other two.
- 42:59Speaker 6: How can you have and also, yeah, is on the
- 43:07Speaker 6: line in this tournament.
- 43:09Speaker 12: They should have stayed unified.
- 43:10Speaker 4: So I think that's I think that's the story mcguffin.
- 43:14Speaker 4: I do not think that they're actually going to split
- 43:16Speaker 4: those belts up. I think it's just yet another excuse.
- 43:18Speaker 4: And this is maybe the thing I don't like that.
- 43:20Speaker 4: It feels like this whole thing is just a long
- 43:23Speaker 4: excuse to do takesh verse.
- 43:27Speaker 7: Yeah, that's that's my problem with the the You said, Kelsey,
- 43:31Speaker 7: the first bet, the first continent of plastic. We knew
- 43:33Speaker 7: what was going to happen from the beginning. We knew
- 43:36Speaker 7: Eddie was going to win it. There was no denying
- 43:38Speaker 7: what was going to happen. Last year, you could say
- 43:41Speaker 7: there was a little bit of controversy and what might happen,
- 43:46Speaker 7: but you were pretty sure it was going to come
- 43:47Speaker 7: down to who it was going to come down to.
- 43:49Speaker 7: This year, it's takesha and and is not losing the match.
- 43:53Speaker 7: I said that, We've talked about it.
- 43:54Speaker 2: The first week.
- 43:55Speaker 7: He's not losing the match. You're not going to have
- 43:57Speaker 7: the i w GP champion lose a match, not at all,
- 44:01Speaker 7: and if he does, it'll be a tie, right, and
- 44:05Speaker 7: you know it doesn't make it. The only thing he
- 44:07Speaker 7: could make this more interesting is if Maxley loses to
- 44:12Speaker 7: every member of his little squad there in the tournament somehow,
- 44:20Speaker 7: but him and Pack are in the opposite side, so
- 44:22Speaker 7: that means they would have to finish one too, so
- 44:26Speaker 7: that they could be against each other in the in
- 44:28Speaker 7: the semifinals. But then you'd have to have Pack or
- 44:32Speaker 7: Takeshta and Okada in the other semifinal. So I mean
- 44:38Speaker 7: to me, if you're gonna make this a tournament that
- 44:41Speaker 7: you want to legitimize and make the perfect tournament, you
- 44:44Speaker 7: can't have champions of any any champion in the match,
- 44:49Speaker 7: except for maybe the defending continental champions.
- 44:52Speaker 10: Yeah.
- 44:52Speaker 4: New Japan did, but New Japan also had twenty people
- 44:54Speaker 4: in the tournaments.
- 44:57Speaker 9: Yeah you're different.
- 44:59Speaker 2: One of the things that you know, I don't like
- 45:02Speaker 2: comparing New Japan to Western wrestling, But there was something
- 45:11Speaker 2: that was posted in the Greatness of Wrestling subreddit that
- 45:17Speaker 2: I honestly agree with. Keep in mind, you have the
- 45:24Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about this. Next to Women's tournament going on,
- 45:27Speaker 2: you have the Continental Classic going on, and somebody in
- 45:32Speaker 2: the Greatness of Wrestling subreddit pointed out looking at the
- 45:36Speaker 2: match cards, it was like, this is isn't this the
- 45:40Speaker 2: same exact match card as it was last week? And
- 45:44Speaker 2: to be honest with you, there is a lot of
- 45:47Speaker 2: satanists to it. And I'm sorry. I I like the matches,
- 45:57Speaker 2: the ones that I've watched. I do need to go
- 45:59Speaker 2: back and watch some of them, but as far as
- 46:02Speaker 2: the Continental Classic goes win or lose with the three
- 46:06Speaker 2: belts and everything, it's too confusing And I honestly I
- 46:10Speaker 2: don't really care who wins this. I really don't.
- 46:14Speaker 9: Sometimes something's just not your jam, and that's okay, Yeah,
- 46:17Speaker 9: I mean.
- 46:18Speaker 2: It's not like I'm just I'm not hating on it.
- 46:21Speaker 2: I'm not hating on it. I hated the first Continental
- 46:25Speaker 2: Classic that was that was stupid. That was very specifically though, Yeah,
- 46:31Speaker 2: but that was.
- 46:32Speaker 4: It was like, more more so than Kingston doing now
- 46:36Speaker 4: Nelson doesn't like they uh, I just don't feel like
- 46:38Speaker 4: they structured the match as well.
- 46:39Speaker 2: For being.
- 46:42Speaker 9: It was really like it.
- 46:43Speaker 2: Really didn't have anything to do with Eddie. Eddie Kingston
- 46:46Speaker 2: per se. It was the fact that they literally told
- 46:49Speaker 2: everybody who was going to win the damn thing before
- 46:52Speaker 2: it even started. I mean only which was Eddie Kingston,
- 46:57Speaker 2: but it could have been it could have been it
- 46:59Speaker 2: could have been John Moxley that they told was gonna win.
- 47:02Speaker 2: It would still made it just as stupid. I mean,
- 47:05Speaker 2: it was a stupid There really was a dumb thing.
- 47:09Speaker 2: I mean, you watch the matches for the matches, but
- 47:13Speaker 2: you knew Eddie Kingston was gonna win it. So what
- 47:15Speaker 2: was the point? You know that, Like I said, it's
- 47:19Speaker 2: really not a slight against Eddie Kingston to the fact
- 47:22Speaker 2: that if it had been John Moxley that they told
- 47:24Speaker 2: you was gonna win it, or Claudio Cassagoli or anybody
- 47:29Speaker 2: you know, it's it's the fact is is that they
- 47:32Speaker 2: told you who was gonna win it before it even started,
- 47:37Speaker 2: you know. So that's that. Uh, let's move on because
- 47:42Speaker 2: we do have the finals of and this is happening
- 47:45Speaker 2: at Winter's Coming Dynamite from Atlanta. The Timeless Love Bombs
- 47:52Speaker 2: are facing the Babes of Rat in the finals of
- 47:55Speaker 2: the Women's World Tag Team Championship Tournament. What do you
- 48:03Speaker 2: guys think who are the winners.
- 48:09Speaker 4: I think Daves are at the beginning, So I guess
- 48:11Speaker 4: I gotta say now, I don't.
- 48:12Speaker 3: Really want bes Rash to win, but I think it's
- 48:15Speaker 3: going to be Tony and.
- 48:17Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it will.
- 48:23Speaker 2: Anybody else.
- 48:24Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't know.
- 48:25Speaker 5: This is this is a coin flip for me, man, Like,
- 48:28Speaker 5: I don't know. I can see a case for both
- 48:30Speaker 5: of them. I think the Timeless Love Bombs are the
- 48:35Speaker 5: name brand that I think because they're the name brand,
- 48:38Speaker 5: they don't actually need the belts, but I could.
- 48:42Speaker 9: I don't know. This is the coin flip for me, man.
- 48:45Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, I mean I mentioned this earlier. Harley Cameron
- 48:50Speaker 2: last year in the aw Fan Hubb Awards was the
- 48:54Speaker 2: most improved wrestler last year, and she was, and she
- 48:58Speaker 2: was nominated this year for most Improved. That's saying something.
- 49:02Speaker 2: She's never won a belt. I mean, Mina shir Cow
- 49:06Speaker 2: had the interim ring him on her TV Championship, but
- 49:10Speaker 2: out of all fort these women, literally, Harley Cameron has
- 49:15Speaker 2: never won a belt. And for that reason and that
- 49:19Speaker 2: reason alone, I think that I gotta go with the
- 49:26Speaker 2: Babes of Wrath on this one. And I agree with
- 49:28Speaker 2: whomever said that the time. Most love bombs, they don't
- 49:33Speaker 2: really need a belt. However, I wouldn't be upset if
- 49:36Speaker 2: they want it, because I would really like to see
- 49:37Speaker 2: Mina shirkkw belt, you know, with a with a real belt.
- 49:42Speaker 2: By the way, I don't know you guys looking at
- 49:45Speaker 2: the graphic that I did for this, do you get it?
- 49:48Speaker 2: It's a wrathful woman holding a bomb that shaped like
- 49:52Speaker 2: a heart.
- 49:54Speaker 9: I was what you were putting down.
- 49:56Speaker 2: That graphic took me like words to do because I mean,
- 50:02Speaker 2: it's just a clip art that woman. Obviously I did vot,
- 50:05Speaker 2: I did do anything. I just she was holding like
- 50:08Speaker 2: a crystal or something like that, and I just changed
- 50:11Speaker 2: it to the to a love bomb graphic. But anyway,
- 50:16Speaker 2: I'm proud of myself for that one.
- 50:20Speaker 6: For me, this is one of those whoever wins, I'll
- 50:26Speaker 6: be happy. I'm always going for Mina because I love her.
- 50:36Speaker 2: You know, Mina, Mina's Mina is the bane of my existence.
- 50:42Speaker 2: She really is. The reason I say that is because
- 50:46Speaker 2: I love her too. And but Reddit has some very
- 50:51Speaker 2: weird rules about you know, not what what is what
- 50:56Speaker 2: is not not safe for work? You can't take a
- 50:59Speaker 2: picture of mina nose and post it and they had
- 51:01Speaker 2: Reddit weall flag it is not safe for work. She
- 51:04Speaker 2: is the most difficult person to post a picture of
- 51:08Speaker 2: in the history of Reddit. I guarantee.
- 51:09Speaker 6: If she is, it's not her fault. Sexy as health.
- 51:15Speaker 2: I mean I literally posted a picture from her chin
- 51:18Speaker 2: up to the top of her head. There was no
- 51:19Speaker 2: other on it, and they marked it. Nothing else of it,
- 51:22Speaker 2: and they marked it and sff you know what.
- 51:24Speaker 9: I mean, editors, I would agree.
- 51:27Speaker 2: You know, it's just I don't know, it's just something weird.
- 51:31Speaker 2: And you know, Reddit is just one of those things
- 51:34Speaker 2: where I've said it before and I'll say it again.
- 51:37Speaker 2: When you look at wrestlers, professional wrestlers pictures, who wears
- 51:40Speaker 2: less clothes? The men are the women? The men do?
- 51:44Speaker 6: Yeah?
- 51:45Speaker 2: By far, I mean look at a picture of Adam
- 51:47Speaker 2: Cole and look at a picture of Mita Shri Kala
- 51:50Speaker 2: who wears in their wrestling gear. Who's wearing less Adam Cole?
- 51:53Speaker 2: By far, Well, you can post ten thousand pictures of
- 51:57Speaker 2: Adam Cole, not one of them will be marked not
- 52:00Speaker 2: safe for working. For a picture. You post a picture
- 52:03Speaker 2: of Ministre cows faced and it's like, Nope, too sexy.
- 52:09Speaker 10: Wait, wait minute, where did that killed?
- 52:14Speaker 2: I was I was, I was trying I was trying
- 52:17Speaker 2: down to go.
- 52:18Speaker 13: I couldn't cut off from until I calmed down Like
- 52:20Speaker 13: that was just jumped out.
- 52:21Speaker 9: And stand a man.
- 52:24Speaker 2: Yeah look look welcome. Well yeah, okay, Wait a second,
- 52:30Speaker 2: Let's let's get down to the bottom of this net.
- 52:34Speaker 2: You have some splayed to do.
- 52:37Speaker 11: No one wants to see ten thousand pictures of Adam.
- 52:49Speaker 2: Next week on a W fatob Our special feature ten
- 52:53Speaker 2: thousand pictures of Adam Gold. You know I've got to
- 52:59Speaker 2: do it now. I'm gonna go.
- 53:00Speaker 9: Frame by frame, snap snaps.
- 53:06Speaker 2: Oh god, everybody anywhere.
- 53:11Speaker 9: That's the award you give every category. It's all.
- 53:19Speaker 14: Yes, yes, yeah, everybody that's listening to this, I'm giving something.
- 53:29Speaker 14: A W A W fat Hub at gmail dot com
- 53:33Speaker 14: said us your zip files of j pgs of Adam
- 53:38Speaker 14: Cole Man.
- 53:40Speaker 10: It canna make canters out of it?
- 53:44Speaker 2: Yeah, we can make calendars out of it.
- 53:47Speaker 9: It's like, what do you all love Adam Cole.
- 53:53Speaker 2: You know people, It's like it's like we're all dead
- 53:56Speaker 2: and there's still Adam cole calendars still going on.
- 54:00Speaker 6: Still sculating.
- 54:05Speaker 7: Arsenal comes in classes in the next one thousands of years.
- 54:08Speaker 7: So now finds that the collection of.
- 54:17Speaker 2: Doing a wind fanhob time capsuled like five hundred years
- 54:22Speaker 2: from now. They dig it up and they're like, what
- 54:24Speaker 2: the f is this man?
- 54:28Speaker 10: This must have been there, God.
- 54:37Speaker 2: Is this guy?
- 54:38Speaker 9: What's going on?
- 54:41Speaker 2: Adam cold disrespect the man. The man is probably likely
- 54:47Speaker 2: never going to wrestle another matchic.
- 54:50Speaker 5: I love, I've loved him forever, but I don't know
- 54:56Speaker 5: what was going on in that period for the tanner
- 54:58Speaker 5: he was using. He knows that area and everybody knows
- 55:01Speaker 5: what I'm talking about, Like, I don't know what happened
- 55:03Speaker 5: there that was he was.
- 55:06Speaker 2: He was trying out for the remake of Yellow Bastard
- 55:09Speaker 2: for the CID City remake.
- 55:12Speaker 5: Which is a shame because like that dude just got
- 55:14Speaker 5: an incredible shape before he got hurt.
- 55:18Speaker 9: I mean, like you.
- 55:19Speaker 2: Could tell that he was not doing well because he
- 55:22Speaker 2: lost a lot of weight towards he had there before all.
- 55:25Speaker 5: Yeah, but yeah, he was an incredible shape. So I
- 55:29Speaker 5: just I missed that guy a lot.
- 55:30Speaker 6: I really like the most athletic.
- 55:36Speaker 15: I was like, you know what you know, I mean
- 55:44Speaker 15: better round. You know, he could have maybe.
- 55:48Speaker 2: Been nominated for Character work of the year. I mean,
- 55:51Speaker 2: Jaundice is character worker, right, I guess commitment to the.
- 55:55Speaker 11: Gimmick man commitment to the gimmick.
- 56:01Speaker 4: I don't think we're probably talking about this yet. I
- 56:03Speaker 4: think we all hope Adam Cole will be back, but
- 56:05Speaker 4: he would nerd my feelings. As good as he is
- 56:07Speaker 4: on the mic if if he came back to wanting
- 56:10Speaker 4: to do some manager stuff or something, he would really
- 56:13Speaker 4: be pretty excellent.
- 56:14Speaker 5: Hey, yeah, I enjoy him on commentary too, Like, like
- 56:20Speaker 5: he is somebody that if if he can travel, I
- 56:24Speaker 5: think Tony should figure out a way to get him
- 56:26Speaker 5: on TV like he's he's he's great, Like everybody loves
- 56:30Speaker 5: Adam Cole. You know, if he if he can travel
- 56:33Speaker 5: ever again, just get him on TV doing something.
- 56:36Speaker 9: Man.
- 56:37Speaker 2: You know, I was actually I was actually thinking about
- 56:40Speaker 2: this earlier today. But you know, when MGF comes back
- 56:43Speaker 2: and they do the whole Dynamite Diamond Ring match again
- 56:47Speaker 2: or whatever they're doing, would it be cool if the
- 56:50Speaker 2: Devil helped him win the Diamond Diamond Ring again, not
- 56:58Speaker 2: in the match, but maybe just hit somebody with a
- 57:00Speaker 2: chair or something like that, and it turns out that
- 57:03Speaker 2: it was Adam Cole you know, I really would I
- 57:07Speaker 2: really would like to see I mean, how many of
- 57:11Speaker 2: you have read this book? Is all? How many of
- 57:16Speaker 2: you have read this book? Is all? Ead? I haven't
- 57:23Speaker 2: you know what? That's a real short book.
- 57:27Speaker 6: Thank you you just gave me the answer.
- 57:30Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I think it's going to be in my
- 57:32Speaker 9: stocking as well, which I.
- 57:34Speaker 2: Did read it. And spoiler alert, there is a little
- 57:37Speaker 2: bit about Adam Cole and MJF and how you know,
- 57:41Speaker 2: their dynamic and their friendship was so good. But you
- 57:45Speaker 2: know what, they didn't talk about the breakup. They just
- 57:47Speaker 2: talked about the dynamic and the friendship that they had.
- 57:50Speaker 2: I think they dropped the ball really bad. But let's
- 57:53Speaker 2: move on because, as you know, we are now picking
- 57:56Speaker 2: Adam Cole to win the Women's World Tag Team Championship.
- 58:04Speaker 9: Jesuslson killing the guy when he's down.
- 58:10Speaker 5: I don't know, that's stabbing him and Kelson just like
- 58:13Speaker 5: kicked him, well yeah, like a dead guy.
- 58:18Speaker 2: Get here. We are sorry for net derailing this entire
- 58:27Speaker 2: conversation about the women's you know, and if you are
- 58:31Speaker 2: disgusted with that, as I am, it's net at aw
- 58:36Speaker 2: fan hub dot com.
- 58:42Speaker 9: O god.
- 58:45Speaker 6: I had with the conversation. So I'm not.
- 58:47Speaker 2: Mad, yes, so you know, yeah, but I'm just saying
- 58:53Speaker 2: for anybody. But it's the i w C NET. You're
- 58:56Speaker 2: gonna get hate bial something wrong exactly.
- 59:08Speaker 7: Come back as Adam's sister.
- 59:12Speaker 6: But we don't talk about that. Okay, we don't talk
- 59:15Speaker 6: about that.
- 59:19Speaker 2: Well, here's something else we probably shouldn't talk about, but
- 59:22Speaker 2: we are going to talk about it. Of course, we
- 59:25Speaker 2: know that Netflix made that purchase. They said they purchased it,
- 59:29Speaker 2: which is so weird that they would say that we
- 59:31Speaker 2: purchased it. Uh, purchase w Warner Brothers. I noticed I
- 59:38Speaker 2: didn't say Warder Brothers, Discovery. But now Paramount is coming
- 59:42Speaker 2: back with a hostile takeover bit of their own. Netflix
- 59:46Speaker 2: is only just the people that don't understand what's going on. Uh,
- 59:51Speaker 2: I've been oversimplified here. Netflix wants to buy Warner Brothers
- 59:58Speaker 2: the stud but they want nothing to do with the TV.
- 1:00:03Speaker 2: The TV part which includes CNN, TBS, t N T
- 1:00:08Speaker 2: True TV that's gonna be part of Water Brothers Global
- 1:00:14Speaker 2: or Discovery Global. Okay, Paramount wants to buy the whole shebang.
- 1:00:19Speaker 2: They want the studios, they want the TV everything, and
- 1:00:24Speaker 2: that's what's different. The concerns with There are concerns with Netflix.
- 1:00:30Speaker 2: There are concerns with Paramount. I'm gonna put you guys
- 1:00:34Speaker 2: on the spot, and kay, since your mic is going
- 1:00:38Speaker 2: absolutely batch it crazy right now, I will go to
- 1:00:42Speaker 2: you first, and what are your what are your thoughts here?
- 1:00:45Speaker 2: Who'll put you on the spot? Who would you rather see?
- 1:00:49Speaker 2: Get Warner Brothers or Warner Brothers, Discovery Netflix.
- 1:00:58Speaker 3: I try to stay away from Netflix much as possible.
- 1:01:00Speaker 3: There if you thinks I like on there, but Paramount
- 1:01:04Speaker 3: has some cooler stuff that I'm interested in, So if
- 1:01:07Speaker 3: they do switch over, it'd be Paramount.
- 1:01:12Speaker 2: Okay, Uh, let me go to Barry.
- 1:01:18Speaker 5: This is such a complicated topic. I think this lose regardless,
- 1:01:24Speaker 5: AW is fine for their contract, but long term, this
- 1:01:27Speaker 5: is this isn't good in general.
- 1:01:29Speaker 9: There's gonna be.
- 1:01:30Speaker 5: Less it's gonna be less bitters for the next round
- 1:01:34Speaker 5: of TV. If Paramount gets everything, Netflix isn't going to
- 1:01:39Speaker 5: pick a w UP because they already have WWE. If
- 1:01:42Speaker 5: Netflix wins, they're not going to keep AW. You know,
- 1:01:46Speaker 5: I don't think Paramount is probably going to keep them.
- 1:01:48Speaker 9: I don't know. I think it's just it's just bad.
- 1:01:50Speaker 9: I don't know.
- 1:01:53Speaker 2: I've seen a lot of people say that if Netflix
- 1:01:55Speaker 2: gets this deal, it's going to kill the movie theater
- 1:01:59Speaker 2: into stree, which I had never thought of, but I
- 1:02:02Speaker 2: can see kind of see the point.
- 1:02:04Speaker 9: Yeah, I'll contribute to it. It's not good in general.
- 1:02:08Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, you know they were going to when
- 1:02:13Speaker 6: when it kind of got next, basically said they wanted
- 1:02:16Speaker 6: to shorten the theatrical released window and get the movies
- 1:02:23Speaker 6: to streaming and you know, digital release faster. But now
- 1:02:28Speaker 6: they've seemed to go back on that because people were like, Okay,
- 1:02:32Speaker 6: they're gonna kill movie theaters if they do this. But
- 1:02:35Speaker 6: you know what, when's the last time any of you
- 1:02:38Speaker 6: guys went to a movie theater?
- 1:02:40Speaker 10: Just random May I went.
- 1:02:44Speaker 2: I went to see Centers in May at the movie theater. Okay, now,
- 1:02:48Speaker 2: before that it has that bad COVID.
- 1:02:51Speaker 6: Before three weeks ago, I wou saw Rental Family. But
- 1:02:57Speaker 6: before that, I mean I hadn't into a theater in months,
- 1:03:04Speaker 6: Like is movies are? Would it really be such a
- 1:03:09Speaker 6: bad thing at movie theaters, you know, became less popular,
- 1:03:16Speaker 6: Like I mean, you pay twenty dollars to go see
- 1:03:21Speaker 6: a movie. You pay thirty dollars for a bucket of
- 1:03:24Speaker 6: popcorn and a drink. You know, look Covide three new movies.
- 1:03:32Speaker 8: I love to kill blocks, so.
- 1:03:36Speaker 12: But yeah, that's like kill blocks.
- 1:03:39Speaker 5: I I have some education in this area, initially studied
- 1:03:44Speaker 5: going into it. I have several friends in the entertainment industry,
- 1:03:48Speaker 5: all of which are really questioning their long term career aspects.
- 1:03:51Speaker 5: In general that the problem with movie theaters is that
- 1:03:58Speaker 5: home theaters are too good now.
- 1:04:00Speaker 9: And I don't mean that in a bad way.
- 1:04:02Speaker 5: The spectacle of going to movies has been diminished because
- 1:04:05Speaker 5: everybody at home can put together a cinema ready product
- 1:04:10Speaker 5: and have access to pretty.
- 1:04:11Speaker 9: Much any movie they want on demand forever.
- 1:04:15Speaker 5: I don't think movie theaters going away as a good thing,
- 1:04:18Speaker 5: because I enjoy movies. There are some films that are
- 1:04:20Speaker 5: still going to be directed for a long time with
- 1:04:23Speaker 5: people who have a vision that this needs to be
- 1:04:25Speaker 5: seen in the giant screen. The scope is designed to
- 1:04:27Speaker 5: be seen at that scale. It doesn't have the same
- 1:04:30Speaker 5: impact on a home screen, even if it's seventy five inches.
- 1:04:33Speaker 5: I understand directors saying that I have people I know
- 1:04:36Speaker 5: that do that for a living, But to your point,
- 1:04:40Speaker 5: this is just indicative of broader problems with the entertainment
- 1:04:43Speaker 5: industry in general. Yeah, I mean a bigger topic than
- 1:04:47Speaker 5: we can cover in this show. But like, well, there's
- 1:04:49Speaker 5: a reason movie theaters aren't as popular because we can
- 1:04:52Speaker 5: get almost as good at home.
- 1:04:53Speaker 9: Go ahead.
- 1:04:54Speaker 6: Yeah, I love movies too. I am a huge movie
- 1:04:57Speaker 6: I know. I have my like watching movies, probably more
- 1:05:01Speaker 6: than I stood. You know, there's movies I can quote
- 1:05:05Speaker 6: line by line and re December. I have my Christmas
- 1:05:09Speaker 6: movie list. I just and yet you know there are
- 1:05:13Speaker 6: some that you've got to go see them in the theater,
- 1:05:17Speaker 6: but it's becoming few and fewer, and the prices just
- 1:05:22Speaker 6: keep getting higher and higher. You know, I have a
- 1:05:26Speaker 6: decent TV. I've got a really comfortable chair. If I
- 1:05:30Speaker 6: want to go to the bathroom, I can hit pause,
- 1:05:33Speaker 6: you know, without what without being like, oh man, when
- 1:05:37Speaker 6: should I go? Can I go right now?
- 1:05:39Speaker 8: You know?
- 1:05:40Speaker 6: I can. I can make to myself a full meal
- 1:05:43Speaker 6: or order a pizza for less than it cost to
- 1:05:45Speaker 6: get a bucket of popcorn and a dream. It's it. Yeah,
- 1:05:51Speaker 6: it's one of those where like movie theaters need to
- 1:05:54Speaker 6: adapt or they're going to die, and it's their own fault.
- 1:06:01Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I kind of have the same kind
- 1:06:03Speaker 2: of thoughts as Barry does. For me when I go
- 1:06:08Speaker 2: to a movie. I'm not going to go to a
- 1:06:10Speaker 2: movie theater to watch something that has the same effect
- 1:06:14Speaker 2: on a big screen as it would on the small screen.
- 1:06:17Speaker 2: I've got a really nice setup at home with you know,
- 1:06:20Speaker 2: a big screen TV and some round sound and all
- 1:06:23Speaker 2: and whatnot. I'm not gonna go to a movie theater
- 1:06:27Speaker 2: and watch I don't know, Shakespeare in Love Part two.
- 1:06:32Speaker 2: There's not a lot of spectacle to that, you know
- 1:06:36Speaker 2: what I mean. I would go to a movie theater
- 1:06:38Speaker 2: to see something like Godzilla I'm a dude, you know,
- 1:06:42Speaker 2: or something you know, along the lines of a science
- 1:06:44Speaker 2: big science fiction movie. But I'm not gonna go to
- 1:06:48Speaker 2: a movie see theater to see Doubton Abbey stuff, you know.
- 1:06:53Speaker 2: But that's I think that's the problem. And I think
- 1:06:56Speaker 2: COVID kind of got us used to watching do or
- 1:06:59Speaker 2: release at home. I really do believe that. Well.
- 1:07:05Speaker 7: I think that if Netflix gets the package, be honest,
- 1:07:11Speaker 7: I would love to see Tony Kong get the rest
- 1:07:13Speaker 7: of it, take the TV, get the TV deal, put
- 1:07:17Speaker 7: it in his own hands. He's got the money that way,
- 1:07:20Speaker 7: he doesn't have to worry about it anymore.
- 1:07:22Speaker 2: And they can.
- 1:07:23Speaker 7: They can do He can do whatever he wants to
- 1:07:27Speaker 7: do with anything.
- 1:07:28Speaker 9: Do you understand the amount of money involved? Like Tony
- 1:07:31Speaker 9: can't just buy this, like.
- 1:07:35Speaker 13: I mean they can leverage, ye, the non Tony Khan's
- 1:07:39Speaker 13: got to like two and a half billion of his
- 1:07:41Speaker 13: own money and Chad CON's got twelve billion, Like not
- 1:07:44Speaker 13: only in couldn't their own money they own They own
- 1:07:47Speaker 13: an NFL franchise which is half the market cap of
- 1:07:50Speaker 13: WWE by itself, And that's not even counting their their
- 1:07:54Speaker 13: interests in the Premier League.
- 1:07:56Speaker 10: That's paper money, that's liquid matter off, it's pay for money.
- 1:08:01Speaker 10: All people do is borrow. Now, this is all it is.
- 1:08:03Speaker 4: Like this is the whole like bubble in the market
- 1:08:06Speaker 4: thing about the stuff.
- 1:08:10Speaker 5: See the cons buying a dying TV industry like cable's dying.
- 1:08:14Speaker 6: Like Netflix's offer was something like I don't know the
- 1:08:19Speaker 6: exact numbers, but I'm just gonna say, you know, I'm
- 1:08:23Speaker 6: ballparking here. Netflix Is offer for the movie stuff was
- 1:08:29Speaker 6: sixty billion. I think it was ridiculously by paramount for
- 1:08:35Speaker 6: ed for the movie and TV is offering eighty. That
- 1:08:42Speaker 6: means the TV is valued at a third of what
- 1:08:46Speaker 6: the movie is at twenty billion. The college do not
- 1:08:51Speaker 6: have twenty billion dollars. They need.
- 1:08:57Speaker 10: Show up and have to write a check.
- 1:09:00Speaker 2: Keeping keep in mind that Paramount sky Dance also doesn't
- 1:09:04Speaker 2: have that money they have they are doing it as
- 1:09:06Speaker 2: a investment group.
- 1:09:12Speaker 16: Like a W is so irrelevant in this mix because
- 1:09:17Speaker 16: Larry Ellison and getting control of CNN and all these
- 1:09:21Speaker 16: other things would be like, we need to tell.
- 1:09:26Speaker 10: This are it's just a disaster.
- 1:09:28Speaker 2: Let's I do want to say. I do want to
- 1:09:32Speaker 2: say one more thing to whoever said that Tony Kahn
- 1:09:36Speaker 2: should buy Discovery Global. I would pay group money to
- 1:09:42Speaker 2: see CNA and run by Tony Khan. I mean the
- 1:09:45Speaker 2: anchors would all have to sit there and scream at
- 1:09:47Speaker 2: the top of their lungs without blinking.
- 1:09:53Speaker 9: You get some in there.
- 1:09:56Speaker 5: Anderson Cooper has a Lucan match in the middle of
- 1:09:59Speaker 5: the show, all right, yeah versus Scara Doata.
- 1:10:03Speaker 2: Yep, I'll tell you what.
- 1:10:04Speaker 6: I would Finally, if that happens.
- 1:10:09Speaker 11: Serious commentators on to wrestle, you know, you're your wife,
- 1:10:16Speaker 11: people and everything just.
- 1:10:21Speaker 9: Calling a Luta match. Come man, breaking news.
- 1:10:25Speaker 2: Everything is breaking news. That's what my pet Pee would
- 1:10:29Speaker 2: see it at breaking news. We're repeating the same thing
- 1:10:32Speaker 2: we said five minutes ago when it broke. Oh my god. Anyway,
- 1:10:37Speaker 2: let's go on. It's breaking, still still breaking after four days.
- 1:10:42Speaker 2: Let's go to our Pope per resection, where we talk
- 1:10:44Speaker 2: about anything that has to do we're professional wrestling, not
- 1:10:47Speaker 2: including Warner Brothers, Discovery, Discovery Global, Netflix or Paramount Sky Dance.
- 1:10:53Speaker 2: Breaking anybody else, breaking breaking news, Winter is coming, Yes,
- 1:10:58Speaker 2: very very well said. Anybody, do you have somebody just
- 1:11:03Speaker 2: oh my gosh, there's just so much going on in
- 1:11:08Speaker 2: the background. Breaking news anyway, anyway, Uh, anybody have a
- 1:11:17Speaker 2: pot pourri?
- 1:11:18Speaker 8: I do real quick.
- 1:11:21Speaker 3: I want to take congrag lations to John Cena on
- 1:11:23Speaker 3: his on his last match. I'm really proud of Tony
- 1:11:26Speaker 3: Kahan from moving, uh closing down because.
- 1:11:34Speaker 8: So that people could see it. And he's he he.
- 1:11:37Speaker 3: Is one of the best in wrestling, like him or not,
- 1:11:40Speaker 3: like it's wrestling or not, he's one of the greatest.
- 1:11:43Speaker 3: And I'm really glad he's in ending his career on
- 1:11:46Speaker 3: a high note.
- 1:11:48Speaker 10: Well said, hardly shocking. Good for w w E card too.
- 1:11:53Speaker 10: In those four matches, shocking breaking news.
- 1:12:00Speaker 4: Uh, one of the I thought one of the curious
- 1:12:04Speaker 4: little bits I saw on TV this week was, uh,
- 1:12:09Speaker 4: my World and high.
- 1:12:10Speaker 10: End and matching gear. If they end up getting hired.
- 1:12:14Speaker 4: Out of this, it's gonna be one of the funniest
- 1:12:16Speaker 4: things to ever happen in the history of this company.
- 1:12:19Speaker 9: I saw a box stage, I was dying.
- 1:12:22Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, there they are again, and they have
- 1:12:24Speaker 5: the same gear on.
- 1:12:26Speaker 4: Yeah, and like Sophia Chavon, who's at Restler, I think
- 1:12:30Speaker 4: Canada somewhere was in that too, but uh, the specifically
- 1:12:35Speaker 4: they have been Like I've been on the sign high
- 1:12:38Speaker 4: both these girls for a long time. Like I thought
- 1:12:41Speaker 4: My World was a really good prospect, Like back Covid,
- 1:12:43Speaker 4: she was really really impressive kind of person. I feel
- 1:12:46Speaker 4: like they should be invested in, but also high end,
- 1:12:48Speaker 4: like I feel like one of the sort of There's
- 1:12:51Speaker 4: been a couple kind of missteps with the women's division,
- 1:12:53Speaker 4: but one of them was not just bringing back everybody
- 1:12:56Speaker 4: from Ringham Honor. When they bought it, they had a
- 1:12:59Speaker 4: great women's Rosstrea was one of the main strengths of
- 1:13:01Speaker 4: the company, and most of those people have ended up
- 1:13:04Speaker 4: in aw since then, and Heien was one of those
- 1:13:07Speaker 4: people and it's just it's kind of crazy it's taking
- 1:13:09Speaker 4: this song, but I would think.
- 1:13:11Speaker 10: They're they're great pickups. Like if that does happen.
- 1:13:14Speaker 2: You have to be honest with you. Is when we
- 1:13:16Speaker 2: were doing the nominations for tag teams, how Will said
- 1:13:20Speaker 2: high in my world as sets and giggles. But uh,
- 1:13:24Speaker 2: but they could get there. They really could anybody else
- 1:13:32Speaker 2: with the pot pourri.
- 1:13:34Speaker 6: Well, since it's all wrestling not eight w New Japan
- 1:13:39Speaker 6: Pro Wrestling World Tag League, the first semi final match
- 1:13:44Speaker 6: will be taking place in about well, the show will
- 1:13:51Speaker 6: start in about six and a half hours. The semi
- 1:13:53Speaker 6: final match will be in about eight and a half hours.
- 1:13:58Speaker 6: You know, I don't want to spoil it for anyone
- 1:14:01Speaker 6: who hasn't been watching, but you know, I feel like
- 1:14:04Speaker 6: if you haven't been watching, you're probably not gonna care
- 1:14:07Speaker 6: about spoilers. Tonight, fischemon Uh the top team from a
- 1:14:14Speaker 6: block faces Rio he Oli how we struggle with his name,
- 1:14:21Speaker 6: Rio Ola Oiwa and Zach Saber Junior. And then on
- 1:14:27Speaker 6: the twelfth, it is a battle of well three war
- 1:14:33Speaker 6: dogs and one unaffiliated as the Knockout Brothers take on
- 1:14:38Speaker 6: Dave Kid and Yo Tasuki, who will be challenging. Kenoski
- 1:14:43Speaker 6: Takeshta for the i w TP Heavyweight title at Wrestle Kingdom,
- 1:14:49Speaker 6: So maybe kind of already spoiled that match about who's winning,
- 1:14:55Speaker 6: you know, but yeah, and then the finals are on Sunday. Yeah,
- 1:15:06Speaker 6: so World Tag League if you haven't been watching, but
- 1:15:09Speaker 6: you want to see the semifinals and the final match.
- 1:15:14Speaker 6: December tenth, December twelfth, December fourteenth.
- 1:15:21Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know that there's a guy in New
- 1:15:24Speaker 4: Japan since Jay White that has made me immediately just
- 1:15:28Speaker 4: fall in love with him so hard. As you know, Ie,
- 1:15:30Speaker 4: that guy is phenomenal. He is somebody. I just love
- 1:15:35Speaker 4: that somebody is like really leaning into that ironhead thing,
- 1:15:38Speaker 4: which is kind of missing with that generation retiring. Somebody
- 1:15:41Speaker 4: referred to him as juggler Fujiita. I was like, oh god,
- 1:15:45Speaker 4: that's fantastic. That's exactly what he is. Like, He's he's
- 1:15:49Speaker 4: like a Gouberd like version of the of that generation
- 1:15:53Speaker 4: guys Like I just really really like him, and him
- 1:15:55Speaker 4: and Oscar have just been really funny so much.
- 1:15:58Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:15:58Speaker 17: I mean I was a fan of to them when
- 1:16:00Speaker 17: they were young lions, and unfortunately most of their excursion
- 1:16:05Speaker 17: was in the UK, so I wasn't able to really
- 1:16:08Speaker 17: keep up with them.
- 1:16:09Speaker 6: I saw a handful of matches and they really they
- 1:16:13Speaker 6: really grew during their excursion and since they've come back
- 1:16:18Speaker 6: they have been on a tear and yeah, you know,
- 1:16:22Speaker 6: you know, Ice is one of those really interesting characters,
- 1:16:26Speaker 6: like he's like it's basically a bad, crazy drug dealer
- 1:16:35Speaker 6: and his German bodyguard. But a crazy drug dealer is
- 1:16:40Speaker 6: also a freaking beast and just a crazy fighter. And
- 1:16:45Speaker 6: you know, I love the bum books that knee he does. Yeah,
- 1:16:50Speaker 6: they're they're a fantastic team. I wouldn't be surprised if
- 1:16:54Speaker 6: they win the whole thing, as they've had a really good,
- 1:17:00Speaker 6: good World Tag League. I think they finished four and three,
- 1:17:06Speaker 6: So you know, should they come out as should they
- 1:17:10Speaker 6: win World Tag late, they have challengers are ready and
- 1:17:15Speaker 6: you know, if they don't win World Tag League, but
- 1:17:18Speaker 6: do keep the titles at Russell Kingdom. They've got they've
- 1:17:22Speaker 6: got three challengers ready to go, including Monster Sauce, Land
- 1:17:29Speaker 6: Starcher and Alex Sing.
- 1:17:34Speaker 2: Well, I'm familiar with them good. I was just gonna
- 1:17:39Speaker 2: say that I'm familiar with you Guce, but he's no
- 1:17:41Speaker 2: Adam called go ahead Barry.
- 1:17:44Speaker 5: So it is, well, it is Continental Classic season. There's
- 1:17:47Speaker 5: also the tail end of Survivors series war Game season,
- 1:17:52Speaker 5: and so I, inspired by all of the war game
- 1:17:55Speaker 5: style matches, recently did a little fun poking around YouTube
- 1:18:00Speaker 5: from some of the wargame matches from the past, and
- 1:18:04Speaker 5: Wrestle War ninety two I landed on and I really
- 1:18:07Speaker 5: wanted to tell folks I put this in the Classics
- 1:18:09Speaker 5: Wrestling Discord channel. It's I think it's about twenty five minutes.
- 1:18:14Speaker 5: Entrances were real short, so the match itself was probably
- 1:18:17Speaker 5: twenty two or twenty three minutes, and I thought it
- 1:18:20Speaker 5: was just a really really great example of how you
- 1:18:23Speaker 5: can do a wargames match with a ton of heat.
- 1:18:25Speaker 5: The crowd in Jacksonville was electric for everybody who went
- 1:18:27Speaker 5: in there. Each of the faces and the heels did
- 1:18:31Speaker 5: exactly what they need to do to keep the heat
- 1:18:33Speaker 5: and the buzz going. It just had super super heat
- 1:18:36Speaker 5: and it was a great way to show how you
- 1:18:37Speaker 5: can do a wargamesmatch that doesn't need to be forty
- 1:18:40Speaker 5: five minutes long. Like once it went into the match beyond,
- 1:18:42Speaker 5: you had a cup two three four minutes left, and
- 1:18:45Speaker 5: it was the culmination of something that had been set
- 1:18:47Speaker 5: up before it once to the match beyond that led
- 1:18:50Speaker 5: to somebody submitting, and I just thought it's a great
- 1:18:53Speaker 5: It's a great, great war game. So it's also a
- 1:18:55Speaker 5: really interesting match because it's right before a lot of
- 1:18:58Speaker 5: talent starts to move between WCWA and WWS. When you
- 1:19:02Speaker 5: had some folks leave to go over there, then they
- 1:19:05Speaker 5: would later turn into big stars like Steve Aouston and
- 1:19:07Speaker 5: a couple other players that would have some interesting storylines
- 1:19:10Speaker 5: as well. So if you haven't checked it out, Russell
- 1:19:12Speaker 5: Ward ninety two the War Games match, it's a it's
- 1:19:15Speaker 5: a quick quick watch on YouTube, about twenty five minutes.
- 1:19:18Speaker 2: I will definitely check that out because I have heard
- 1:19:21Speaker 2: what war games happened. I did. People were talking about
- 1:19:24Speaker 2: previously no past war games, and some of them were
- 1:19:29Speaker 2: very beloved. This last one not so much. Does anybody
- 1:19:34Speaker 2: else have a potpri song called leeds.
- 1:19:37Speaker 9: Buckets in that mash Man?
- 1:19:40Speaker 11: I have a question maybe you all can help me with. Okay,
- 1:19:45Speaker 11: So this past weekend, GCW was in Seattle. I didn't
- 1:19:52Speaker 11: go to the show, but I watched it, and then
- 1:19:56Speaker 11: I watched them the next night in LA.
- 1:19:59Speaker 12: They're the highest in the Room.
- 1:20:01Speaker 11: I think that show was called So while I was
- 1:20:04Speaker 11: watching those, Joey Janella was in both shows.
- 1:20:09Speaker 9: He had matches.
- 1:20:11Speaker 11: It made me wonder why, out of people that Tony
- 1:20:16Speaker 11: Khan has had disagreements with and he's forgiven, like Leo
- 1:20:22Speaker 11: Rush for example, when he's back on AW, back on
- 1:20:26Speaker 11: the show Everything's Fun, what happened between Tony Khan and
- 1:20:30Speaker 11: Joey Janella that they haven't kissed and made up yet?
- 1:20:36Speaker 12: Does anyone know?
- 1:20:39Speaker 8: I don't know his girlfriend's here, so I don't know.
- 1:20:41Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, even before maybe Joey, but maybe Joey Jenella
- 1:20:48Speaker 18: just simply enjoys.
- 1:20:52Speaker 3: Yeah, I've I've heard him say nothing good things about
- 1:20:56Speaker 3: Tony and he enjoyed his time here. But I think
- 1:20:58Speaker 3: he's he's kind of done with AW, doesn't want to
- 1:21:01Speaker 3: be chained down, and likes likes gc W.
- 1:21:06Speaker 6: Yeah, I was just wondering they had a disagreement or anything.
- 1:21:10Speaker 6: I think it's more he likes working in the indies,
- 1:21:13Speaker 6: and I think he looks for maybe a few indie
- 1:21:21Speaker 6: companies or is at least part of the you know,
- 1:21:26Speaker 6: maybe like booking committee for some or like I think
- 1:21:31Speaker 6: he has a hand in a few indie promotions, so
- 1:21:34Speaker 6: it's probably like he, Yeah, he chose to stick with
- 1:21:40Speaker 6: those and work with them instead of being you know,
- 1:21:45Speaker 6: a W and maybe having to miss some of those
- 1:21:49Speaker 6: shows because they want him to do a random match
- 1:21:53Speaker 6: in a W like you know, it's kind of like
- 1:21:56Speaker 6: one of those. He probably felt like he was never
- 1:22:00Speaker 6: going to be a top guy there. He was always
- 1:22:03Speaker 6: going to be a mid card, you know, they use
- 1:22:08Speaker 6: them kind of jobber to the stars role, so he'd
- 1:22:13Speaker 6: rather work with those indecent doing that stuff. Yeah, I
- 1:22:17Speaker 6: don't think there was any kind of animosity between him
- 1:22:20Speaker 6: and Tony Tong.
- 1:22:23Speaker 11: I thought there was because there was that controversy that
- 1:22:29Speaker 11: Joey Janella had. He hurt Sonny Kiss really bad. I
- 1:22:34Speaker 11: think he hurt Eddie Kingston and a lot of people
- 1:22:39Speaker 11: were saying they didn't want to work with him. So
- 1:22:42Speaker 11: I always got the impression that there was something that
- 1:22:44Speaker 11: went on backstage that maybe we weren't all privileged to
- 1:22:50Speaker 11: and he kind of just disappeared.
- 1:22:55Speaker 5: If I recall, And I could be wrong here, but
- 1:23:01Speaker 5: I believe he said in some interviews like he understands
- 1:23:04Speaker 5: why AW let him go, And there wasn't like animosity
- 1:23:08Speaker 5: like he owned up to what had caused that. I
- 1:23:11Speaker 5: don't remember the specifics of backstage heat and AW, but
- 1:23:15Speaker 5: and I could be wrong here. I thought it was
- 1:23:17Speaker 5: something he did at an indie show, or something that
- 1:23:20Speaker 5: happened around an indie show. He was working while doing
- 1:23:23Speaker 5: something with AW that was inappropriate. I don't remember what,
- 1:23:27Speaker 5: And again I could be completely wrong on that and misremembering,
- 1:23:30Speaker 5: but I'm pretty sure he had said an interview like
- 1:23:32Speaker 5: he understood why they had to part ways and owned
- 1:23:35Speaker 5: up whatever it caused that. So I think it's just
- 1:23:38Speaker 5: the case, like others said, it's just better if they
- 1:23:41Speaker 5: just keep working on their own, you know.
- 1:23:42Speaker 11: Yeah, I've just been wondering. I like Joey Janella and
- 1:23:45Speaker 11: I miss him on TV, so I've been wondering what
- 1:23:49Speaker 11: it was that was keeping him out of AEW.
- 1:23:53Speaker 12: So, okay, thanks guys.
- 1:24:06Speaker 2: All right then, well that's going to be the show
- 1:24:09Speaker 2: for tonight. Thank you for listening, Thank you for coming. Guys.
- 1:24:12Speaker 2: We will be back next week on Tuesday at eight
- 1:24:16Speaker 2: forty five Eastern with another episode of AEW fan hubbs
- 1:24:22Speaker 2: Ignition podcast for the podcast team, This is Kelson. Good night, everybody,
- 1:24:29Speaker 2: Good night, guys, good night Lenny kings down