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Ep 921 | Is Leftist Mainstream Media RESPONSIBLE for Attempt on Trump’s Life? | Guest: Spencer Coursen · Predictable with Stu Burguiere

• 0:01
  Stu does America.
• 0:06
  Welcome to the program,
• 0:07
  Matt.
• 0:07
  We have a ton to catch up on today,
• 0:09
  and we're definitely not gonna get to everything.
• 0:11
  I'm promising you that right up front.
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  We will not do all the big news stories of the day.
• 0:15
  The reverse of what most people will tell you,
• 0:17
  but I'm being honest,
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  there's no way we're getting to all of it.
• 0:20
  A couple of big things
• 0:21
  that did happen today that we're probably not gonna have that much time to touch on.
• 0:25
  But
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  the classified documents case
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  on Donald Trump that was in court in Florida was tossed today.
• 0:32
  Basically the appointment of Jack Smith ruled to be unconstitutional by the judge.
• 0:36
  We will see where that goes.
• 0:37
  Surely challenges will abound.
• 0:40
  As you see here,
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  but that one's gone for the moment,
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  which basically means there's nothing left.
• 0:45
  There's really nothing left here when it comes to these charges.
• 0:48
  Nothing certainly that's going to happen
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  before the election.
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  So this whole thing about Trump and the legal situation being a big
• 0:55
  force in the election outcome
• 0:57
  is pretty much dead,
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  pretty much dead.
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  Also,
• 1:00
  Trump is to announce his vice president choices today.
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  Now I will say.
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  Um,
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  I,
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  when you,
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  I don't know when you're listening to this,
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  so he may have already picked that person.
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  If,
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  when this does happen,
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  we're going to try to go live on YouTube,
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  go to youtube.com/studiosAmerica.
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  If you follow the page and click the bell for notifications,
• 1:17
  you'll get pop-ups when we're doing these lives.
• 1:19
  We've done about 5 or 6 of them.
• 1:21
  In the last week,
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  big things,
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  the press conference,
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  Biden's press conference,
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  obviously the shooting
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  with Trump.
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  We went live a couple of times,
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  you know,
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  big interviews,
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  big press conferences,
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  big speeches,
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  big poll results being released,
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  whatever we got,
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  we're going to be going live on YouTube.
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  So
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  just join us there
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  and you'll get all of that stuff.
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  Let me go through some of the stuff today.
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  Look,
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  you've already heard the Trump assassination
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  attempt.
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  You know what it is.
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  You know what happened.
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  I'm not going to go too deep into just recounting the everyday
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  back and forth on this
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  because we've already covered it on some of the
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  lives and you've probably already seen the coverage.
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  You've certainly seen the video.
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  It's one of the most amazing things
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  really any of us will ever experience.
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  So
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  understand this for your kids,
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  for your grandkids.
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  Try to keep the perspective,
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  maybe write some of it down,
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  maybe jot yourself a few emails,
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  just get you give the perspective of what you're
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  thinking through these moments because these are historic times,
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  there's no doubt about that.
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  Trump is rewriting his speech at the RNC in the wake of the assassination
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  attempt,
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  and you know it's hard to know exactly what he's thinking here.
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  We don't know
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  where he is going to go
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  with this difference,
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  but we got a little bit of a taste potentially from his Truth Social,
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  where he just wrote unite America.
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  Unite America,
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  that's a simple message,
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  and
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  what this is politically,
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  and again we can go into all the more important things,
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  we've already done a lot of that,
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  you've probably already thought through a lot of that,
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  so we're trying to get to the secondary stuff here,
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  which is
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  politically.
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  The mindset of Donald Trump
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  is changing
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  if he goes this direction.
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  He is no longer thinking about a 51 to 49 type victory.
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  He's now thinking,
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  wait a minute,
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  do I get,
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  do I win by 10?
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  Do I win by 12?
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  Can I get 350 electoral votes?
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  This is where his mind is in this moment,
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  and I think
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  if he can nail this tone.
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  And not
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  take the goodwill he will receive obviously
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  for being a victim of something like this
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  and turn it into,
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  if he doesn't
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  ruin it,
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  which is possible,
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  it's hard to do,
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  especially over several months,
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  it's going to be hard to hold that together for any candidate,
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  but you know,
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  Trump is Trump and he likes to sometimes.
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  Remind people
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  that they don't like him,
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  some people don't,
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  which was kind of on display this weekend.
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  Some people really don't like him,
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  and you know,
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  but I think he's going to have a burst of goodwill here,
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  and it will be fascinating to see what happens in the polls as a result of it.
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  Again,
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  this is a secondary issue.
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  The number one issue is of course Donald Trump's health and of course
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  the people at the rally that were affected by this.
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  A father in a terribly tragic story killed.
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  Awful.
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  There's other people who are in critical condition.
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  I mean the whole thing is a mess.
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  That's #1.
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  Number 2 is what happens to our country.
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  We are in really dangerous territory,
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  but we did cover some of this on radio and on YouTube Live,
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  so we'll all just keep to what's going on right now.
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  There was last night,
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  of course,
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  a Biden address.
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  Biden addresses Trump rally shooting in the Oval Office.
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  Address Politics may never may never be a literal battlefield.
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  I mean he butchered that line
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  pretty badly when he went through it.
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  Let me give you a couple of the clips from this speech
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  last night.
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  This is him talking about the motive of the shooter.
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  Earlier today,
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  I spoke about an ongoing investigation.
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  We do not know the motive of the shooter yet.
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  No,
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  we don't know his opinions or affiliations.
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  We don't know whether he had help or support
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  or if he communicated with anyone else.
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  Law enforcement professionals as I speak are investigating those questions
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  tonight.
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  I want to speak to what we do know.
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  Riveting,
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  riveting speech from Joe Biden,
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  uh,
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  as you might imagine.
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  Now my understanding is the intent uh motive was to kill Donald Trump.
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  Not sure if that one holds up,
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  but that's my belief.
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  We don't know everything about this guy.
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  He seems to be kind of a quirky 20 year old with not a big online history.
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  We'll see where all that shakes out.
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  We don't need to speculate on it because we'll know eventually,
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  I think.
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  This one was
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  because the tone was terrible.
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  Joe Biden is awful doing these speeches.
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  He,
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  he is,
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  you know,
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  borderline incoherent,
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  um,
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  certainly no energy,
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  really weird physical
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  performance,
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  really stilted and odd.
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  That's what you expect out of Joe Biden.
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  There was an opportunity for him to potentially say,
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  hey,
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  you know,
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  my side's obviously got some problems with this stuff too.
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  Like he could have tried to do this thing where he reaches across the aisle.
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  And one way he attempted to kind of signal he was doing that
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  was to say,
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  hey,
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  it doesn't matter
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  whether it's
• 5:45
  you know the the assassination of Donald Trump or this on the
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  right or this on the left or this on the right.
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  He kind of set it up that way,
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  like he was going to give you a laundry list of some examples from either side to show,
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  hey,
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  both sides are guilty of this,
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  we need to turn the temperature down.
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  Instead,
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  what he did was only
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  remember
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  things that happened to people on the left.
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  It was an incredible,
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  dishonest,
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  disingenuous,
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  disgusting moment from a president
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  in this spot.
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  I can't overstate how just horrible this moment was.
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  Watch this because I think people on the left will be like,
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  oh yeah,
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  I see what he's saying there,
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  but look at the examples he comes up with.
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  We cannot,
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  we must not
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  go down this road in America.
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  We've traveled before throughout our history.
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  Violence has never been the answer,
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  whether it's with members of Congress of both parties being targeted and shot
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  or a violent mob attacking the Capitol on January 6th January 6th,
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  or a brutal attack on the spouse of former Speaker
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  of the House Nancy Pelosi,
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  Nancy Pelosi,
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  or information
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  and intimidation
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  on election officials.
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  Oh,
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  Donald Trump is evil.
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  Plot
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  against the sitting governor.
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  OK,
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  attempted assassination on Donald Trump.
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  Got it.
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  There's no place in this.
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  There's the list.
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  So it's January 6th.
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  You can turn it off.
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  January 6th,
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  the Michigan thing,
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  which kind of fell apart if you remember Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping,
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  the intimidation of election officials.
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  That's an actual criticism of Donald Trump.
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  The man was just shot in the side of the head.
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  And he's saying he's the problem.
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  Uh,
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  did he ask for it?
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  Did it,
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  was his skirt too short?
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  Absolutely incredible.
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  Couldn't come up with,
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  I don't know,
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  Brett Kavanaugh almost being assassinated.
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  Couldn't come up with that one.
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  Couldn't come up with
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  a Bernie Sanders campaign volunteer almost murdering 10%
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  of all elected Republicans in Washington DC.
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  Couldn't think of that one,
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  right.
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  just out of sight,
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  out of mind,
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  but you came up with the Michigan kidnapping case.
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  Good job,
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  Joe.
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  Just despicable.
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  It wound up being
• 7:46
  basically just an election speech.
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  I mean he went into like how we're going to argue,
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  we're going to choose what we're going to choose for the future.
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  There is absolutely no reason for this
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  to be in the Oval Office.
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  He went on to say,
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  well,
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  we're not going to,
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  we can't do this with violence.
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  We have to
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  address these things at the battle box,
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  which I think is like
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  we have to.
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  I don't know if it's battle bots.
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  Like we have to make sure the election is decided by two robots,
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  each representing the candidates.
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  I don't know what the battle box is.
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  They actually went to the extent with the actual transcript
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  because he of course was supposed to say ballot box.
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  He said battle box twice,
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  so they had to correct it in the actual
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  transcript and rather than saying what he actually said,
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  which was battle,
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  B A T T L E,
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  they actually corrected the official transcript
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  to a made up word.
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  Battle,
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  B A T T O L.
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  That's not a word.
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  They,
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  they actually corrected him
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  from a real word
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  and made it look like he actually was saying a fake word because
• 8:46
  they didn't want to admit what a gaffe it was when he was
• 8:49
  preaching for peace and uses the word battle.
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  Unbelievable.
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  And then of course we had the whole
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  everyone must be treated with dignity and respect.
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  Oh,
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  you mean like Adolf Hitler?
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  Is that,
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  is that the kind of respect you've been looking for,
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  because that's what you've been saying about your opponent this entire time,
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  that he's basically literally Hitler.
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  So that's the sort of dignity and respect we should expect out of you.
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  Just an absolute disgrace from behind.
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  From,
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  oh my,
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  from the freaking Oval Office,
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  from behind the resolute desk,
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  we get this,
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  what an embarrassment this guy is.
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  I mean,
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  the seconds can't pass
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  quickly enough until he's out of office.
• 9:26
  I can't wait.
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  I personally can't wait.
• 9:28
  Um,
• 9:29
  some other stuff that's going on.
• 9:31
  The conspiracy theories got so bad
• 9:34
  that even Taylor Lorenz got mad at them.
• 9:37
  That's how bad we are.
• 9:38
  Blue a non-conspiracy theories flood social media after a Trump rally shooting,
• 9:43
  really crazy ones,
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  basically arguing about the idea that it was staged.
• 9:46
  Completely absurd,
• 9:47
  of course.
• 9:48
  Joe Scarborough,
• 9:49
  uh,
• 9:49
  Morning Joe,
• 9:50
  pulled from the air today because of the Trump shooting,
• 9:53
  reported by CNN that they were worried that they or their
• 9:56
  guests were going to say something horrible in the coverage,
• 9:58
  which is fascinating because that's this is
• 10:01
  Joe Biden's.
• 10:02
  Favorite show,
• 10:03
  his most trusted show,
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  where he goes when he needs trusted perspective.
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  So basically the show
• 10:09
  that
• 10:10
  our president goes to for trusted perspective can't
• 10:13
  even be trusted by his own network.
• 10:16
  That's a good sign.
• 10:17
  That's a good sign for our future.
• 10:19
  Trump rally shooting upends Democratic to Biden crisis.
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  This is a fascinating secondary
• 10:24
  part of the story because
• 10:25
  obviously we've spent the last couple of weeks after the
• 10:28
  debate talking about how Biden might have to step down,
• 10:30
  he's trying to fight for his life,
• 10:32
  and there's two ways to look at this.
• 10:35
  Where I'm sitting right now is this is probably very good for Biden in a weird way,
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  right?
• 10:40
  Um,
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  it's weird to talk about this incident and
• 10:42
  talk about whether it's good for a politician,
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  but I mean we're doing the political side of this intentionally,
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  uh,
• 10:47
  you know.
• 10:49
  It's going to help him run out the clock.
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  That's,
• 10:51
  I think,
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  the thought here.
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  He,
• 10:52
  he,
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  they're not going to be able to deal with this for a while.
• 10:55
  There was rumors that multiple dozens of Democrats were going
• 10:57
  to come out and ask for him to step down.
• 10:59
  It's really hard to do that when he's in the middle of a crisis like this.
• 11:02
  This probably lets him run
• 11:03
  the clock out.
• 11:04
  The other side of this,
• 11:05
  and I'll just throw it out there,
• 11:06
  I don't know that this is going to happen,
• 11:07
  but if the polls really,
• 11:09
  really pop for Donald Trump here.
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  And we start seeing polls like 1012,
• 11:14
  14 points,
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  something crazy.
• 11:16
  If that starts happening,
• 11:17
  they may go ahead replacing him anyway.
• 11:20
  They may,
• 11:20
  they may just pull the rug out from under him if they can anyway.
• 11:23
  Again,
• 11:23
  this is something he's gonna have to agree with.
• 11:24
  We'll see if that happens.
• 11:26
  Jen Psaki says Republicans
• 11:28
  must change their tone at the convention to restore civility
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  because
• 11:33
  their candidate almost got murdered
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  on stage.
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  So I don't,
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  I don't know exactly what,
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  what,
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  how much more civil they can be.
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  To
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  discourage
• 11:42
  people shooting at the candidates.
• 11:44
  So I don't know.
• 11:45
  Again,
• 11:46
  was his,
• 11:47
  was his skirt a bit too short?
• 11:50
  He shouldn't have been walking in that alley now,
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  should he?
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  Absolutely incredible,
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  uh,
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  coming from the left.
• 11:56
  Look.
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  The rhetoric of the left
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  calling him
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  Hitler and a dictator and a threat to democracy and all the things they've done
• 12:05
  is really,
• 12:05
  really bad,
• 12:06
  of course,
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  and obviously
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  it's true.
• 12:09
  The person responsible for a murder
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  or an attempted murder is the person
• 12:13
  who attempted the murder.
• 12:14
  That's obvious.
• 12:16
  I work in a business where I say stuff all the time.
• 12:18
  And we know how the left tries to blame
• 12:21
  us for everything bad that happens.
• 12:23
  Well,
• 12:23
  he listened to Glenn Becker,
• 12:24
  he listened to Stubergere,
• 12:25
  he listened to
• 12:27
  Steve Dace or whoever,
• 12:28
  and they say,
• 12:29
  oh well,
• 12:29
  that's the reason why he did this.
• 12:31
  Look,
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  it's not our responsibility as
• 12:33
  broadcasters or even politicians' responsibilities
• 12:36
  to
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  to
• 12:37
  to control every lunatic that might listen to them.
• 12:40
  But I will say it's not a good idea
• 12:42
  to be calling your opponent Hitler all the time,
• 12:44
  and it's obviously something they don't believe,
• 12:46
  because
• 12:47
  if they believed it,
• 12:48
  they wouldn't be wishing him well,
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  right?
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  You don't wish Hitler well.
• 12:52
  That's not what you do,
• 12:52
  but you do create a situation where
• 12:54
  a lot of people will say,
• 12:56
  well,
• 12:56
  you know,
• 12:56
  it kind of makes sense,
• 12:57
  right?
• 12:58
  We saw this reaction from the left,
• 12:59
  a lot of people kind of cheered this on that someone took a shot at Donald Trump.
• 13:03
  And in some ways you look at the rhetoric of the left,
• 13:05
  I mean,
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  it's basic ethics class in every college,
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  right?
• 13:09
  Would you go back and kill baby Hitler,
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  right?
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  It's like a fantasy,
• 13:13
  right?
• 13:13
  A time machine brings you back to kill baby Hitler,
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  it would be so,
• 13:16
  it would do so much good.
• 13:17
  Well,
• 13:17
  they're telling you that Hitler's right here right now,
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  and he's not even a baby.
• 13:20
  He's not even adorable anymore,
• 13:21
  he's an adult.
• 13:23
  So why wouldn't you do it?
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  That is the underlying argument of every one of their points.
• 13:28
  And you know what,
• 13:28
  someone's gonna take it seriously eventually.
• 13:30
  They're not criminally responsible for that.
• 13:33
  They are protected by a very,
• 13:35
  very
• 13:36
  strong First Amendment in their speech,
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  but it's still the wrong thing to do.
• 13:39
  There's no doubt about that.
• 13:42
  Let's see what else do we have time for here.
• 13:45
  Uh
• 13:46
  Yeah,
• 13:46
  I mean,
• 13:47
  it's funny because,
• 13:48
  uh,
• 13:48
  going back to the Hitler point real quick.
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  When you
• 13:51
  assassinate Hitler,
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  Tom Cruise makes movies about your life.
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  That's how
• 13:57
  that is what
• 13:58
  the messaging is from the Democratic Party.
• 14:01
  They're telling you this man is Hitler.
• 14:02
  Of course some crazy person is going to do something.
• 14:05
  We don't know if it was this one or many of
• 14:07
  the other threats that Donald Trump has received over the years.
• 14:09
  Thank God
• 14:11
  this one wasn't
• 14:12
  the one that did the most damage.
• 14:15
  By the way,
• 14:16
  even while this was going on,
• 14:17
  the New York Times still had pieces up right under their live coverage of this event
• 14:21
  that
• 14:22
  you know
• 14:22
  that the
• 14:24
  Republicans were influenced by Nazis.
• 14:26
  Even as the event was going on,
• 14:28
  it was still up on their site.
• 14:31
  So how is this something that Trump can work with
• 14:33
  electorally?
• 14:35
  The tone is going to be important here,
• 14:37
  and so far he has absolutely nailed the tone.
• 14:40
  These statements that he's made
• 14:41
  that are strong and brave and resilient,
• 14:45
  but also not.
• 14:47
  He doesn't need to be in your face in these moments,
• 14:49
  just like he didn't need to be in your face when you know
• 14:52
  Biden's debate performance was out there as the news cycle.
• 14:56
  He's
• 14:57
  he's learning
• 14:58
  how to kind of sit back
• 15:00
  and let you know,
• 15:01
  give Biden
• 15:03
  political
• 15:04
  rope.
• 15:05
  That is a massive,
• 15:06
  massive difference in the way that Trump is handling this two previous campaigns.
• 15:11
  How long will it be until Trump
• 15:13
  is Hitler again?
• 15:14
  What,
• 15:14
  what is the,
• 15:15
  what is,
• 15:15
  because I mean their entire campaign is built on calling Trump Hitler,
• 15:19
  saying he's violent.
• 15:20
  And abortion.
• 15:22
  Well,
• 15:22
  how do you do the other two?
• 15:23
  They're gonna be hearing a lot about abortion,
• 15:25
  because how do you do the other two?
• 15:27
  How do you do the other flanks of this?
• 15:28
  You can't say
• 15:29
  the Republicans are the violent party after they
• 15:31
  almost got their candidate almost got assassinated.
• 15:34
  And you know,
• 15:35
  you can't really talk about January 6th or anything else after all this has gone on.
• 15:39
  What do you do?
• 15:40
  Abortion,
• 15:40
  abortion,
• 15:41
  abortion,
• 15:41
  I suppose.
• 15:42
  Let me end with this because I'm running out of time.
• 15:46
  One thing we should all not lose perspective of
• 15:48
  is how freaking crazy it was that the bullet actually hit his ear.
• 15:53
  His ear.
• 15:55
  His ear that's attached to his head,
• 15:56
  that's one inch away from absolutely him having no chance of surviving this.
• 16:02
  If you went into a Hollywood pitch meeting and you're like,
• 16:04
  I've got a great idea for a movie,
• 16:06
  it's gonna be about an attempted assassination of a presidential candidate,
• 16:09
  and the guy fires and it hits his ear and there's lots of blood and everyone goes,
• 16:12
  oh my gosh,
• 16:13
  and,
• 16:13
  and there's a big scene and,
• 16:15
  and
• 16:15
  you would get laughed out of the pitch room.
• 16:18
  The chances of this happening are completely impossible.
• 16:21
  I mean,
• 16:21
  a shot and a miss would have been crazy enough,
• 16:23
  but a shot that hits him in the
• 16:25
  ear and he's walking off stage moments later is impossibly insane.
• 16:30
  Only God
• 16:31
  could have possibly protected him and made this happen.
• 16:34
  It is a miracle,
• 16:35
  and I mean that legitimately.
• 16:37
  God only knows not only what would happen,
• 16:38
  of course,
• 16:38
  to his family and politics,
• 16:40
  but what would have happened to our country
• 16:42
  if one inch,
• 16:44
  a little bit more wind,
• 16:45
  whatever the difference was,
• 16:47
  if that would have occurred.
• 16:48
  And finally,
• 16:49
  the reaction.
• 16:50
  Him
• 16:51
  having the presence of mind
• 16:53
  to stand up in that moment
• 16:54
  and pump his fist and say fight
• 16:57
  is
• 16:57
  not only iconic,
• 16:58
  the photos are iconic,
• 17:00
  but it is one of the most badass things you will ever see
• 17:04
  from
• 17:04
  any politician at any level in any situation.
• 17:08
  It might be the most badass thing I've ever seen in the history of politics.
• 17:13
  It is
• 17:13
  incredible.
• 17:14
  It was an incredible
• 17:16
  moment.
• 17:16
  It's one that he should not have had to suffer through,
• 17:19
  but man.
• 17:21
  After it,
• 17:21
  it is incredibly impressive.
• 17:23
  I want to talk about the security aspects of what went on,
• 17:25
  the failures with the security.
• 17:27
  We're going to bring in Spencer Corson.
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  I'm joined now by Spencer Curson.
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  He's a threat management expert and founder of the Courson Security Group,
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  author of The Safety Trap,
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  a great book,
• 18:51
  a Security Expert's Secrets for Staying Safe in a Dangerous World,
• 18:55
  which is available now wherever you get your books.
• 18:57
  Spencer,
• 18:57
  thanks so much for coming on the program,
• 18:58
  ma'am.
• 19:00
  Stu,
• 19:00
  always a pleasure,
• 19:01
  my friend.
• 19:01
  How are you?
• 19:02
  Really,
• 19:02
  really well.
• 19:03
  Crazy times unfortunately though.
• 19:04
  Let me start with this.
• 19:05
  This is a headline from The Wall Street Journal.
• 19:07
  Trump shooting his Secret Service,
• 19:09
  Secret Service's most stunning failure
• 19:12
  in decades.
• 19:13
  True or false?
• 19:15
  True.
• 19:15
  100% true.
• 19:17
  I remember going through my own protective academy and one of
• 19:20
  the first things I remember hearing an instructor tell me was,
• 19:23
  anytime your protective team is forced to pivot from,
• 19:26
  from prevention to reaction,
• 19:28
  you failed.
• 19:30
  The,
• 19:30
  the buck stops with the Secret Service here and the fact that they haven't been
• 19:35
  answering any questions is
• 19:37
  not really instilling a lot of confidence in their future capability.
• 19:40
  It really is stunning and,
• 19:41
  and you know it's stunning when like an idiot like me sees stuff and it's like,
• 19:45
  hey,
• 19:46
  wait a minute,
• 19:46
  what about that?
• 19:48
  Let me start with this because
• 19:50
  you know as I look at it,
• 19:51
  I don't understand all this stuff.
• 19:52
  You've been protecting really important people all around
• 19:55
  the globe for a really long time,
• 19:57
  also lowlifes like Glenn Beck.
• 19:59
  But when you're talking about a situation
• 20:01
  like this where a presidential candidate who's obviously
• 20:05
  getting threatened all the time
• 20:06
  is in the middle of an open field
• 20:09
  with an elevated position 130 yards away or whatever it was.
• 20:14
  To me,
• 20:14
  it just seems number one,
• 20:16
  completely insane that there wasn't an officer or somebody on
• 20:18
  that roof preventing anyone else from getting up there.
• 20:21
  I mean,
• 20:21
  am I overthinking this?
• 20:23
  No,
• 20:24
  you're not overthinking this at all.
• 20:25
  I mean,
• 20:26
  150 yards away,
• 20:27
  200 yards away,
• 20:28
  300 yards away,
• 20:29
  500 yards away,
• 20:30
  that's still within the threat envelope.
• 20:33
  Uh,
• 20:34
  any,
• 20:34
  anyone who's ever gone through any kind of like protective academy,
• 20:37
  whether that's Secret Service,
• 20:38
  DSS,
• 20:39
  US Marshals,
• 20:39
  what have you.
• 20:41
  Day one,
• 20:42
  year one,
• 20:42
  hour one is threat mitigation,
• 20:45
  right?
• 20:45
  Line of sight.
• 20:47
  And the fact that this shooter was only a,
• 20:49
  was only a uh a football field away
• 20:53
  from uh from a presidential candidate
• 20:55
  is absurd.
• 20:57
  And they can say all day long that they were,
• 20:59
  this was outside the perimeter and that this was local police's responsibility.
• 21:03
  The buck stops with the Secret Service.
• 21:05
  The buck stops with the Secret Service,
• 21:07
  so that that canopy should have been flagged.
• 21:09
  It should have been marked.
• 21:10
  It should have been deterred.
• 21:11
  It should have been.
• 21:12
  Completely on everyone's radar,
• 21:14
  and the fact that someone was able to
• 21:16
  drive in,
• 21:18
  carry a long run across the field,
• 21:20
  mount a roof,
• 21:20
  and then set up into a sniper perch is just unforgivable.
• 21:24
  It's incomprehensible that that happened
• 21:27
  and you know it's one of the reasons
• 21:29
  why there's so many crazy conspiracy theories going
• 21:31
  around immediately is because people jump to conclusions
• 21:33
  because they can't understand how this could happen.
• 21:35
  They picture the secret.
• 21:36
  Service as being the best in the world,
• 21:40
  how do you explain that to someone who's looking at this and saying,
• 21:42
  wait a minute,
• 21:42
  these guys are supposed to be top of the line
• 21:45
  and the best security anybody can get,
• 21:48
  and yet this obvious thing that I think the layman could understand,
• 21:51
  there's people just standing around saying,
• 21:53
  hey,
• 21:53
  there's somebody on the roof with a gun
• 21:55
  a minute and a half before the shooting happens,
• 21:57
  and somehow it still goes on.
• 21:59
  I mean how do we explain this?
• 22:02
  Yeah,
• 22:02
  the,
• 22:02
  so
• 22:03
  what my sources are telling me and what the
• 22:05
  agents who I have personal relationships with are,
• 22:08
  are,
• 22:08
  are,
• 22:08
  are saying to me
• 22:10
  is that this is not the fault of the agents on the ground.
• 22:13
  This is the fault of many echelons higher.
• 22:16
  That the Secret Service agents on the ground are
• 22:18
  overtasked,
• 22:19
  are,
• 22:20
  are overworked,
• 22:21
  they're not getting the assets they need
• 22:23
  when,
• 22:24
  you know,
• 22:24
  listen,
• 22:24
  we have the cap,
• 22:25
  the Secret Service has the capability
• 22:27
  to
• 22:28
  To protect anyone anywhere with almost like a 100 degree amount of certainty.
• 22:34
  What it then comes down to is how much resources and money are we going to invest
• 22:38
  into each one of these.
• 22:42
  Uh,
• 22:43
  events,
• 22:44
  right?
• 22:45
  Um,
• 22:45
  so I think what you saw was,
• 22:46
  uh,
• 22:47
  a lot of local and state police support,
• 22:49
  uh,
• 22:50
  being given to this event because so many
• 22:52
  Secret Service agents are in Milwaukee right now
• 22:54
  or are also in Chicago.
• 22:56
  It was very concerning to me to learn that the site survey was only done a day before
• 23:01
  when these are typically done weeks before,
• 23:04
  which means that the secret,
• 23:05
  the Secret Service agents,
• 23:06
  the detailed lead for that site
• 23:08
  was probably doing his walkthrough during the load-in.
• 23:12
  Which gives him no time to course correct or hey,
• 23:15
  this isn't good,
• 23:16
  or hey,
• 23:16
  what do we have here or what assets do I have available.
• 23:19
  And the fact that it was local police,
• 23:23
  uh,
• 23:23
  responsible for that outside,
• 23:26
  um,
• 23:27
  or for that,
• 23:27
  that,
• 23:28
  that,
• 23:28
  uh,
• 23:29
  farmhouse that was outside the perimeter,
• 23:31
  great,
• 23:32
  but then you also need to inspect what you expect.
• 23:34
  What is the communication plan?
• 23:36
  Is,
• 23:36
  does,
• 23:36
  does that outside local police department have the ability.
• 23:40
  To communicate directly
• 23:42
  with the Secret Service team,
• 23:43
  or do they have to go through multiple levels of,
• 23:46
  of communication before a decision can be finally made.
• 23:50
  And then,
• 23:50
  most upsetting,
• 23:51
  as CNN was reporting this morning,
• 23:53
  apparently the officers did,
• 23:55
  were alerted to that gunman on the roof,
• 23:57
  saw him,
• 23:58
  the gunman turned and aimed at that officer.
• 24:01
  And instead of the officer engaging that suspect,
• 24:04
  ducked and covered and protected himself instead.
• 24:06
  Yes,
• 24:06
  that's an interesting one.
• 24:07
  I mean,
• 24:07
  I'm not sure what to make of that yet just because,
• 24:10
  you know,
• 24:11
  I've heard different reports.
• 24:12
  One report I heard that he kind of just ducked.
• 24:14
  Another one I heard is he,
• 24:16
  when he saw the gun,
• 24:17
  he fell off the ladder,
• 24:18
  which might be a little bit,
• 24:19
  and it was only a few seconds I guess until the shots went out.
• 24:23
  It feels though like
• 24:25
  there's some effort to just blame the local police officers,
• 24:28
  and look,
• 24:29
  they might be at fault here.
• 24:30
  Um,
• 24:31
  it's certainly possible,
• 24:32
  but you're tasking them with an awful lot,
• 24:34
  and,
• 24:35
  you know,
• 24:35
  I,
• 24:35
  I just,
• 24:36
  I don't know.
• 24:37
  I,
• 24:37
  I feel like there,
• 24:37
  there might be a little bit of a blame game going on.
• 24:39
  Is that,
• 24:40
  do you think that's possible?
• 24:40
  There's 100% a blame game,
• 24:42
  and the bottom line is that the buck stops with the Secret Service.
• 24:44
  You can say,
• 24:45
  hey,
• 24:45
  I have attached an asset here,
• 24:48
  but if you are not,
• 24:49
  um,
• 24:51
  giving them back briefs,
• 24:52
  giving them task conditions and standards,
• 24:54
  letting them know exactly what it is that
• 24:56
  they're supposed to be doing when they're there,
• 24:58
  then it's no different than having like.
• 25:01
  Those guys at the yellow jackets at,
• 25:03
  at,
• 25:03
  at stadiums that are watching the game versus watching the crowd,
• 25:06
  right,
• 25:06
  right,
• 25:07
  um,
• 25:08
  which never makes any sense to me.
• 25:10
  Um,
• 25:12
  thinking of,
• 25:13
  I saw the,
• 25:13
  the,
• 25:14
  the Biden speech last night,
• 25:15
  and what,
• 25:16
  like I knew I wasn't going to like it.
• 25:17
  I'm not a,
• 25:17
  I'm not a Biden fan,
• 25:19
  um,
• 25:19
  but
• 25:20
  What I would have liked to have at least seen was something concrete.
• 25:23
  Hey,
• 25:24
  we're doubling protection.
• 25:25
  We're doubling the resources for all Trump events.
• 25:28
  We're going to start protecting RFK Jr.
• 25:31
  for example,
• 25:31
  with Secret Service protection.
• 25:34
  We got none of that.
• 25:35
  I mean,
• 25:35
  what are the concrete steps that could actually happen
• 25:38
  that would protect Trump and all these other candidates?
• 25:41
  To adhere to the actual standard that is already in place.
• 25:45
  One of the problems that we're running into is that they just don't have the,
• 25:49
  the assets available to them
• 25:51
  to do what they need to do in order to ensure the certainty for everyone involved.
• 25:56
  So what starts happening is we start chipping away,
• 25:58
  OK,
• 25:58
  you're not gonna have a 1 week advance,
• 25:59
  you're gonna have 1 day.
• 26:00
  You're not gonna have 100 agents,
• 26:02
  you're gonna have 10.
• 26:03
  You're not gonna have 5,
• 26:04
  you're not gonna have a counterassault team.
• 26:05
  We're gonna give you a,
• 26:06
  a local,
• 26:07
  uh,
• 26:07
  SWAT team to back up your play.
• 26:09
  And so what you start doing is the Secret Service is this really great vintage wine.
• 26:15
  But then you start adding water to it with all this,
• 26:17
  uh,
• 26:18
  delineation and all this,
• 26:19
  this,
• 26:19
  the spreading out of assets
• 26:21
  that they don't really have the capability to do.
• 26:24
  I bet if you,
• 26:25
  if you
• 26:25
  like went down and like audited,
• 26:27
  each agent was on that,
• 26:29
  on that detail that day and asked them the last time they got like a full 12 hours off,
• 26:33
  it would be a long time for almost all of them.
• 26:35
  Hm,
• 26:36
  fascinating.
• 26:36
  And,
• 26:37
  and can you give me
• 26:38
  I mean,
• 26:38
  a lot has been made about these videos as you see Trump kind of going from the podium
• 26:42
  over to the vehicle for him to exit,
• 26:45
  you know,
• 26:45
  there's some people who kind of seem like they don't know where they're going,
• 26:48
  they're not holstering their weapons properly.
• 26:50
  Like what do you make of that?
• 26:51
  Is that real?
• 26:53
  Yeah,
• 26:53
  that,
• 26:54
  that's a real concern.
• 26:55
  I thought the Secret Service agents on the ground that day did a
• 26:57
  very good job of covering the president once the threat was realized.
• 27:02
  What I had a real,
• 27:03
  a real concern with
• 27:05
  was
• 27:06
  the discombobulation and the miscommunication.
• 27:08
  You,
• 27:08
  you hear agents saying on you,
• 27:11
  OK,
• 27:11
  up and let's go.
• 27:12
  There,
• 27:12
  there's something in the protective world that's known as ambush relief syndrome,
• 27:16
  which is
• 27:17
  when you
• 27:18
  Let's say you're,
• 27:19
  you're,
• 27:19
  you're clearing a room and you take down one guy,
• 27:21
  and you kind of let your guard down because you think you neutralize the threat.
• 27:25
  You kind of leave your,
• 27:26
  you leave yourself vulnerable for follow-on
• 27:29
  attacks.
• 27:29
  And so the fact that they were kind of like very whimsical in,
• 27:32
  in,
• 27:32
  in uh letting President Trump kind of stand up and get his shoes and then give,
• 27:37
  you know,
• 27:37
  the fight sign,
• 27:38
  and then they kind of like walk him down to the car.
• 27:40
  And then they put them
• 27:41
  in the car on the passenger side instead of using the,
• 27:44
  the vehicle itself as cover.
• 27:46
  Like why wasn't that SUV like backed right up to the stage to add another element of,
• 27:51
  of protection?
• 27:51
  And I think this is one of those things where
• 27:54
  it's really easy to train in ideal situations and under ideal scenarios.
• 27:59
  It's something else entirely to do it under duress.
• 28:02
  And if you are not trained and capable to act under duress,
• 28:07
  as you are
• 28:08
  when you're not under duress,
• 28:09
  then.
• 28:10
  What you see is what we got.
• 28:12
  That's a great breakdown of all this.
• 28:14
  Spencer Corson,
• 28:14
  you've been doing this for years,
• 28:15
  threat management expert,
• 28:16
  founder of the Corson Security Group,
• 28:18
  and author of
• 28:19
  The Safety Trap,
• 28:20
  how you can
• 28:21
  apply a lot of the stuff that Spencer was talking about
• 28:24
  to your actual everyday life.
• 28:26
  It's a great book.
• 28:27
  You should definitely get it.
• 28:28
  Spencer,
• 28:28
  thanks so much for coming on the show,
• 28:29
  man.
• 28:29
  I appreciate it.
• 28:30
  My pleasure.
• 28:31
  Thank you.
• 28:39
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• 28:43
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• 28:45
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• 28:46
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• 28:47
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• 28:48
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• 28:50
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• 28:52
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• 28:53
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• 28:53
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  At the end of the radio show today,
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  we got a call from a guy named Jesse,
• 29:36
  and he was at the rally
• 29:38
  where the incident happened with Donald Trump
• 29:40
  this weekend,
• 29:41
  and we had like 1 minute left in the show.
• 29:43
  And so I,
• 29:44
  I told him,
• 29:45
  hold on for a second,
• 29:45
  I need to talk to you
• 29:46
  off the air,
• 29:47
  and I wanted to bring that conversation
• 29:49
  to you.
• 29:49
  We went through kind of everything,
• 29:50
  his initial reactions,
• 29:51
  what he saw in the moment.
• 29:55
  Conversation.
• 29:58
  I wanna go to Jesse,
• 30:00
  who was at the rally
• 30:01
  for President Trump in Butler,
• 30:03
  Pennsylvania.
• 30:04
  Jesse,
• 30:05
  uh,
• 30:06
  give me a,
• 30:06
  give me a picture of what the day was like as you actually
• 30:11
  Major way to a rally that seemingly was going to
• 30:14
  be a normal day and and turned very tragic.
• 30:18
  Yeah,
• 30:18
  absolutely.
• 30:19
  Um,
• 30:20
  you know,
• 30:21
  it's funny,
• 30:21
  I,
• 30:21
  I,
• 30:21
  I immediately thought back to like September 11th.
• 30:24
  I've heard a lot of people say,
• 30:25
  oh,
• 30:25
  it was such a beautiful day.
• 30:27
  And that's exactly what it was here.
• 30:28
  I mean,
• 30:29
  it was,
• 30:29
  it was hot.
• 30:30
  It was,
• 30:30
  uh,
• 30:31
  92 degrees and,
• 30:32
  and,
• 30:33
  uh,
• 30:33
  but my goodness,
• 30:34
  the sun was shining.
• 30:34
  It was,
• 30:35
  it was beautiful.
• 30:36
  And that was my first thought,
• 30:37
  man,
• 30:37
  it,
• 30:38
  it is so nice out.
• 30:39
  And,
• 30:40
  uh,
• 30:40
  it took me about 2.5 hours to get through security.
• 30:44
  Um,
• 30:44
  you know,
• 30:45
  it was,
• 30:45
  it was just like walking through a metal detector,
• 30:47
  emptying your pockets.
• 30:49
  Um,
• 30:50
  but they did,
• 30:50
  nobody checked IDs,
• 30:51
  nobody checked for tickets,
• 30:53
  you know,
• 30:53
  like you had to confirm tickets online,
• 30:56
  but,
• 30:56
  uh,
• 30:57
  and it said,
• 30:57
  you know,
• 30:57
  I'll have this at the door whenever you get in,
• 30:59
  but nobody checked them.
• 31:00
  And
• 31:01
  once you got through security,
• 31:02
  like,
• 31:03
  After that it was just very,
• 31:05
  very unorganized.
• 31:06
  Like you could just wander about and,
• 31:08
  and,
• 31:08
  but again it,
• 31:09
  it was just
• 31:10
  farm show grounds,
• 31:11
  you know,
• 31:11
  it's like being at the fair basically
• 31:13
  and you've been to,
• 31:14
  uh,
• 31:14
  have you been to Trump rallies before?
• 31:15
  Was this similar to other situ you know,
• 31:18
  rallies?
• 31:19
  This one was different because there was a visible difference
• 31:23
  of less.
• 31:25
  Uh,
• 31:27
  Secret Service,
• 31:27
  I guess you could say.
• 31:28
  Like I,
• 31:28
  I've been to 3 of them in the past,
• 31:31
  and
• 31:31
  I mean,
• 31:32
  you have 40,000 people there
• 31:34
  and
• 31:34
  from what I could see,
• 31:36
  you only had 2 snipers on the roof.
• 31:38
  And,
• 31:38
  um,
• 31:39
  I was,
• 31:40
  I got to,
• 31:41
  uh,
• 31:41
  sit in the bleachers.
• 31:42
  I was about 10 to 15 ft
• 31:45
  to Trump's rear right in the bleachers.
• 31:48
  And,
• 31:48
  uh,
• 31:49
  when he came out,
• 31:50
  you know,
• 31:50
  I,
• 31:50
  uh,
• 31:50
  it was,
• 31:51
  it was amazing.
• 31:52
  It was,
• 31:52
  it was beautiful.
• 31:53
  And then,
• 31:53
  uh,
• 31:54
  You know,
• 31:55
  once I personally,
• 31:56
  I only heard 3 shots initially and then I heard multiple shots after that,
• 32:01
  which I would assume would be,
• 32:02
  you know,
• 32:03
  Secret Service,
• 32:03
  uh,
• 32:03
  sniper's engagement and,
• 32:06
  um,
• 32:07
  uh,
• 32:07
  the Secret Service tackled him so hard that,
• 32:10
  uh,
• 32:10
  Trump's shoes fell off.
• 32:12
  And,
• 32:12
  um,
• 32:13
  They held him down there for,
• 32:15
  for quite a while and then I heard,
• 32:17
  uh,
• 32:17
  a couple of the guys that were on top of him say,
• 32:19
  they kept repeating,
• 32:20
  Hawkeye is here,
• 32:21
  Hawkeye is here.
• 32:21
  Are we good to go?
• 32:23
  And,
• 32:23
  um,
• 32:24
  so then they stood him up
• 32:26
  and I couldn't see his face because his face was towards the crowd,
• 32:29
  but I could see his hand
• 32:30
  and it had blood on it.
• 32:31
  And I,
• 32:31
  I,
• 32:32
  I,
• 32:32
  I was,
• 32:33
  uh,
• 32:33
  I thought,
• 32:33
  dear God,
• 32:34
  please don't,
• 32:35
  please don't let anything bad happen.
• 32:37
  And,
• 32:37
  um,
• 32:38
  But,
• 32:39
  uh,
• 32:39
  once they got him up,
• 32:40
  then I saw him
• 32:41
  stop and put his fist up.
• 32:42
  I could see his fist go up
• 32:44
  and,
• 32:44
  uh,
• 32:45
  then everybody started chanting USA and cheering and everything.
• 32:48
  And,
• 32:49
  um,
• 32:49
  there were,
• 32:50
  I was in the center set of bleachers behind the
• 32:52
  podium and then there was a set of bleachers to,
• 32:54
  to the left and a set of bleachers to the right.
• 32:57
  And on the far ends of both of those,
• 33:00
  uh,
• 33:00
  bleachers,
• 33:01
  those are where the other victims were that,
• 33:03
  that got hit with gunfire.
• 33:05
  And,
• 33:05
  um,
• 33:06
  the right set of bleachers like the police and,
• 33:09
  and Secret Service,
• 33:10
  they evacuated those people immediately.
• 33:12
  And then the left side bleachers,
• 33:14
  um,
• 33:15
  it took a little bit longer,
• 33:17
  like maybe,
• 33:17
  maybe within 2 or 3 minutes,
• 33:19
  they evacuated them,
• 33:20
  but us in the back set of bleachers,
• 33:22
  they held us there for about 10 or 15 minutes.
• 33:24
  And then they said,
• 33:25
  you know,
• 33:25
  at this point,
• 33:26
  they don't know if there's multiple shooters or not.
• 33:28
  And so
• 33:29
  they said,
• 33:30
  um,
• 33:30
  you know,
• 33:31
  go ahead and evacuate,
• 33:32
  but stay low,
• 33:33
  stay low.
• 33:33
  So like we,
• 33:34
  we had to like bend over as we were leaving.
• 33:36
  And,
• 33:37
  um,
• 33:37
  there were two hydraulic lifts.
• 33:39
  They look like forklifts,
• 33:40
  but they,
• 33:41
  they lift up and go about like 20 ft in the air
• 33:44
  on either side.
• 33:45
  There was one on the left,
• 33:46
  one on the right,
• 33:46
  and they had these giant speakers,
• 33:48
  uh,
• 33:48
  suspended on them.
• 33:50
  And the hydraulic lift on the left side,
• 33:52
  uh,
• 33:54
  I'm supposing it got hit by gunfire because it dropped immediately.
• 33:58
  And,
• 33:58
  uh,
• 33:59
  thank goodness it dropped straight down because if it would have tilted over,
• 34:02
  it,
• 34:02
  it would have crushed those people in that set of bleachers there.
• 34:05
  But when,
• 34:05
  as we were leaving,
• 34:06
  there was hydraulic fluid all over the ground.
• 34:08
  Oh my God.
• 34:09
  And so walk me through this moment when these,
• 34:12
  when the shots actually,
• 34:14
  uh,
• 34:14
  you hear them.
• 34:15
  I mean,
• 34:16
  is,
• 34:16
  were you scared for your own safety?
• 34:18
  Were you just thinking about the president?
• 34:21
  What were you,
• 34:22
  what was going through your mind in that moment?
• 34:25
  At that exact moment that I,
• 34:27
  all I could think because like,
• 34:28
  Trump dropped down directly in front of us and I thought,
• 34:31
  dear God,
• 34:31
  I hope he didn't get hit.
• 34:32
  And,
• 34:33
  and,
• 34:34
  It wasn't until
• 34:36
  Secret Service started screaming.
• 34:38
  There were,
• 34:38
  there were Secret Service and then there was also state police and they,
• 34:41
  they were yelling,
• 34:42
  Everybody get down,
• 34:43
  everybody get down.
• 34:44
  And,
• 34:44
  um,
• 34:45
  within seconds,
• 34:46
  my son,
• 34:47
  uh,
• 34:48
  and my wife started calling me and
• 34:50
  I you know,
• 34:50
  I,
• 34:51
  the,
• 34:51
  uh,
• 34:52
  the president's been hit,
• 34:53
  you know,
• 34:53
  I,
• 34:53
  I,
• 34:53
  I can't talk.
• 34:54
  They,
• 34:54
  they have us all laying on the ground and,
• 34:56
  and,
• 34:56
  uh,
• 34:57
  but I mean,
• 34:57
  it,
• 34:59
  looking back on it,
• 35:00
  it happened so fast.
• 35:01
  It was so surreal that,
• 35:02
  I mean,
• 35:04
  You just didn't have time to think,
• 35:05
  you know what I mean?
• 35:06
  Yeah,
• 35:07
  uh,
• 35:07
  Jesse,
• 35:07
  give me your sense of the lay of the land.
• 35:09
  I mean,
• 35:10
  when you,
• 35:10
  knowing obviously now what happened,
• 35:12
  how crazy is it to you that there wasn't Secret Service presence
• 35:16
  or police presence on the building where the shooter actually wound up?
• 35:20
  Oh my goodness,
• 35:21
  that,
• 35:22
  that's totally insane.
• 35:24
  Uh,
• 35:24
  that,
• 35:24
  it doesn't make sense to me at all.
• 35:26
  Like whenever you went through security,
• 35:28
  at first when they announced he was coming,
• 35:30
  I thought that they were gonna have him.
• 35:31
  There's a small landing strip for like small little C Cessna planes
• 35:35
  at the,
• 35:36
  at the far end of the farm showgrounds.
• 35:38
  I thought that they were gonna have him down there because it's all open,
• 35:41
  you know,
• 35:42
  and,
• 35:42
  and,
• 35:42
  um,
• 35:44
  But they had him at the opposite end.
• 35:46
  And I thought that was kind of strange because there's like a little bit of
• 35:49
  dip that goes down into a valley kind of thing and there's a small pond
• 35:53
  and,
• 35:53
  uh,
• 35:54
  the grandstand where they have like tractor pools and stuff like that.
• 35:57
  And then they have those barns over to the side.
• 36:00
  Um,
• 36:01
  there's,
• 36:01
  there are 3 barns behind where the president was.
• 36:04
  And then there was a set of
• 36:06
  tents that were in between the barns and,
• 36:09
  and
• 36:10
  like the stage area where,
• 36:12
  where we were at.
• 36:13
  Um,
• 36:13
  And then
• 36:14
  to the immediate right of that is,
• 36:17
  is the AGR building and that,
• 36:19
  that's where the,
• 36:20
  uh,
• 36:20
  the shooter was at.
• 36:21
  But I mean,
• 36:22
  there's a fence that is there.
• 36:24
  And granted,
• 36:25
  like I,
• 36:25
  I've heard on the news and things like that,
• 36:27
  that,
• 36:27
  oh,
• 36:27
  well,
• 36:28
  he didn't have to go through security.
• 36:29
  He wasn't in the perimeter,
• 36:30
  but
• 36:31
  my goodness,
• 36:32
  you could throw a football
• 36:33
  to where that building was,
• 36:35
  you know,
• 36:35
  like it,
• 36:36
  it
• 36:36
  just doesn't make any sense to me.
• 36:39
  That is just,
• 36:39
  I mean just visually,
• 36:41
  they keep showing these over the head,
• 36:42
  you know,
• 36:42
  overhead maps and everything,
• 36:44
  and it looks completely absurd from,
• 36:46
  from,
• 36:46
  from that perspective.
• 36:47
  I can't imagine what it looked like,
• 36:50
  uh,
• 36:50
  you know,
• 36:50
  being there in person.
• 36:51
  I mean it just doesn't seem like it was even
• 36:54
  that difficult a shot for someone with any basic training.
• 36:58
  No,
• 36:58
  I mean,
• 36:59
  if,
• 36:59
  if you had any,
• 37:00
  you could have got like a $35 optic and,
• 37:02
  and still been able to make the shot.
• 37:04
  I mean,
• 37:04
  it's,
• 37:05
  it,
• 37:05
  it's ridiculous that they didn't have somebody there.
• 37:09
  Uh,
• 37:10
  last one for you here,
• 37:11
  Jesse,
• 37:12
  you have the moment where the shots ring out,
• 37:14
  you watch and you fear for the president,
• 37:16
  you're getting these panicked calls from your family.
• 37:18
  I mean,
• 37:18
  this is the craziest moment,
• 37:21
  but
• 37:21
  as,
• 37:22
  what is your feeling as you see Trump rise up
• 37:26
  and start pumping his fists and yelling fight,
• 37:30
  does,
• 37:30
  I mean,
• 37:31
  does it change from fear to elation immediately?
• 37:34
  What is,
• 37:34
  what is that moment like for you?
• 37:37
  There was a moment where I was like,
• 37:40
  OK,
• 37:41
  we still at this point,
• 37:42
  we don't know how many people there are.
• 37:44
  We don't know how many shooters there are or anything like that.
• 37:46
  So like,
• 37:47
  yeah,
• 37:47
  he raises his fist and you want to celebrate,
• 37:49
  you want to be happy,
• 37:50
  but at the same time,
• 37:51
  you're like,
• 37:51
  I need to keep Duck down.
• 37:53
  And
• 37:54
  there is no doubt,
• 37:55
  no doubt in my mind
• 37:57
  that the good Lord was watching over him because like,
• 38:00
  if he would have turned his head just slightly,
• 38:02
  it,
• 38:02
  it,
• 38:02
  it would have been a different story.
• 38:04
  And I,
• 38:04
  and I praise the Lord that,
• 38:06
  that,
• 38:06
  that it didn't happen.
• 38:08
  Jesse,
• 38:08
  I'm so glad you're OK,
• 38:10
  and the president's OK,
• 38:11
  and most people,
• 38:12
  at least in the audience are OK with
• 38:15
  unfortunately,
• 38:16
  tragic exceptions to that,
• 38:18
  but Jesse,
• 38:18
  thanks so much for giving us
• 38:19
  a a a a window into what it must have been like in,
• 38:22
  in a truly historic event.
• 38:24
  Has it set into you that you were,
• 38:26
  you were there and something that people are gonna remember forever?
• 38:29
  The,
• 38:30
  that evening whenever I got home,
• 38:32
  I'm like,
• 38:33
  no,
• 38:33
  like I,
• 38:33
  I,
• 38:35
  this can't happen in our little town.
• 38:36
  I mean,
• 38:37
  Butler,
• 38:37
  Butler City has 13,000 people in it.
• 38:39
  Butler County only has 120,000 people in it.
• 38:42
  And
• 38:43
  we,
• 38:43
  uh,
• 38:44
  uh,
• 38:44
  this is 100% Trump country.
• 38:46
  I mean,
• 38:47
  every building,
• 38:48
  every business has Trump signs all,
• 38:50
  uh,
• 38:50
  you know,
• 38:50
  we love them.
• 38:51
  And,
• 38:52
  and,
• 38:52
  um,
• 38:54
  We just haven't got to the point that,
• 38:56
  uh,
• 38:56
  I still haven't just realized it yet,
• 38:58
  I guess.
• 38:59
  Well,
• 38:59
  even your dog seems to love him,
• 39:00
  so that's a,
• 39:01
  that's a good sign.
• 39:02
  Jesse,
• 39:03
  thanks so much,
• 39:03
  man.
• 39:03
  I appreciate it.
• 39:05
  Thank you.
• 39:13
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• 39:16
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• 39:19
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• 39:19
  those doing the taking are the same people who are sworn
• 39:22
  to defend your freedom in some cases,
• 39:24
  and they think they can violate your right to protect your own family.
• 39:27
  They think they can force their delusions onto your children,
• 39:31
  and they think they can control the media and hide the truth,
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  but
• 39:34
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• 40:39
  we're in the middle of our taping and we do get breaking news from the president,
• 40:42
  uh,
• 40:42
  former President Donald J.
• 40:44
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• 40:46
  after considering the tremendous talents of many others.
• 40:49
  I've decided that the person best suited to assume
• 40:51
  the position of Vice President of the United States is
• 40:53
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• 40:56
  of Ohio.
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• 40:57
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• 41:00
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  president of the Yale Law Veterans Association,
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• 41:13
  uh,
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  as we,
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  as we know,
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  uh,
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  went on to go,
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  uh,
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  talk about.
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  He will help make the uh make America great again,
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  so congratulations to JD Vance and his wife.
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  His wife is going to be a,
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  a positive for this campaign as well.
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  She's very,
• 41:28
  very likable.
• 41:29
  Um,
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  so this is really interesting.
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  He does mention in there at the in the first clip
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  talking about the states,
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  uh,
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  and do I have the list in front of me here.
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  He mentions specifically,
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  and this is something that I've talked to you before.
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  It didn't seem like there was a direct tie to electoral,
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  you know,
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  gains from JD Vance,
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  like,
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  oh,
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  Ohio,
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  he's going to win Ohio anyway.
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  But look at what he mentions there.
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  He says Pennsylvania,
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  Michigan,
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  Wisconsin,
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  Ohio,
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  Minnesota,
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  and far beyond.
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  Those states are states that are many of them border Ohio,
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  of course,
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  in that same region,
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  but also the region that his book specifically talked
• 42:04
  about and talked about the problems of that region.
• 42:07
  I do think there's electoral benefit with him talking to
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  that Rust Belt area.
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  And also Donald Trump needs to win one of
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  those states if he wants to become president.
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  So
• 42:17
  that part of it is interesting.
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  The second part of it is he's very good on television,
• 42:21
  very good arguing.
• 42:22
  He is a bulldog.
• 42:23
  He can go get you,
• 42:24
  but he's also very,
• 42:25
  very smart.
• 42:26
  He's not just wild with his claims,
• 42:27
  even though I know the left would disagree with that analysis.
• 42:30
  And in addition,
• 42:31
  he's 39 years old,
• 42:33
  and I think it's an interesting pick.
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  It's also the pick I've talked to you many times that if I were Donald Trump,
• 42:38
  it is the pick that I would have made.
• 42:40
  It is the best legacy pick as far as an
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  alignment of policy with one of these VP contenders,
• 42:46
  and it sets him up for Trumpism to not be a two-term thing.
• 42:51
  It could be something that goes on and on and on.
• 42:53
  Some of you might not like that.
• 42:55
  There are certain aspects of it I definitely don't like.
• 42:57
  There's some of the aspects I do like,
• 42:59
  but JD Vance is a pretty good VP candidate,
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  and I think with everything that's gone on,
• 43:04
  it enabled Donald Trump to be a little more bold with this pick.
• 43:07
  That's the way he went.
• 43:08
  JD Vance will be the VP.
• 43:10
  I will have more breakdown of this on YouTube.com/studiosamerican.
• 43:13
  I'm going to go live here after my taping
• 43:15
  and lay this out in more detail,
• 43:16
  but go check it out there.
• 43:18
  Back in a second.
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  On YouTube,
• 43:24
  on podcast with the State of the Race podcast,
• 43:27
  you'll get more VP analysis,
• 43:28
  YouTube.com/S StudiosAmerica and on Blaze News Tonight
• 43:32
  this evening.
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  I will be talking about it as well.
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  Don't miss it.
• 43:35
  More tomorrow.