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Patriots Unfiltered 5/4: Scouting the 2023 Draft Class, Mike Vrabel voted to Patriots Hall of Fame · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 4: It's kind of too bad because Fred Fred like Star Wars.
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  Speaker 4: I was hoping we could get him to dress up
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  Speaker 4: like Han Solo.
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  Speaker 5: He usually does something well, he's like Chewbacca every other day,
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  Speaker 5: what like his buddy hair or what incoherent babble that
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  Speaker 5: was what I was.
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  Speaker 4: But you're like the Han Solo who actually understands it.
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  Speaker 4: You can get through it. And they're like, no, I
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  Speaker 4: know what he said.
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  Speaker 4: All right, Well, we'll be here for the next two
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  Speaker 4: hours talking Patriots, getting going a little bit on the draft. Guys,
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  Speaker 4: and Evan's been writing a lot of film reviews. We've
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  Speaker 4: all been talking to their coaches, so we're getting some
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  Speaker 4: more insight onto those players. But I think the big
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  Speaker 4: news of the day to start off with was Mike
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  Speaker 4: Rabel was announced yesterday as the what was it, the
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  Speaker 4: twenty thirty thirty four, four thirty fourth, Yeah, thirty fourth,
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  Speaker 4: that sounds right to me, inductee into the Patriots Hall
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  Speaker 4: of Fame. I did a big rant about it. Well deserved.
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  Speaker 4: He's been you know, on the finalist committee for finalist
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  Speaker 4: list for too long. So nice seven times a charm
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  Speaker 4: for the coach from Tennessee. So we'll see how it
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  Speaker 4: all works out in terms of ceremonies and all that
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  Speaker 4: kind of stuff to get Rabes into the Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 4: But when you look at that, you know, first dynasty,
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  Speaker 4: he was just such a key part of that defense,
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  Speaker 4: such a key part of just the attitude and also
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  Speaker 4: just one of those guys that kind of started this
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  Speaker 4: trend of you know, getting a guy from another team
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  Speaker 4: that And I don't want to mistate it because talking
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  Speaker 4: of Rabel, you know, he had an opportunity to go
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  Speaker 4: back to Pittsburgh. It wasn't like he just fell off
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  Speaker 4: the map there. I think it was just who was
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  Speaker 4: the name of the outside linebacker that just beat him?
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  Speaker 4: Who everybody knows who's awesome. Not before Joey Porter, like
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  Speaker 4: who there was an outside linebacker. I'm blanking on his name,
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  Speaker 4: one of the one of the famous Steelers that came
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  Speaker 4: in with Raby. Maybe maybe, but you know he said,
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  Speaker 4: I think very said he got a little quicker than me,
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  Speaker 4: so it opened up an opportunity to come here to
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  Speaker 4: New England. But I do think he embodies some of that.
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  Speaker 4: You know, hey, we get a guy who maybe he
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  Speaker 4: signing free agency, not a lot of buzz, but he
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  Speaker 4: comes in and ends up, you know, just being a
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  Speaker 4: core championship piece for I think it was seven or
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  Speaker 4: eight years that he was here.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it was a great pick. I think
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  Speaker 5: to me, of the three finalists, he clearly stood above
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  Speaker 5: the other two.
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  Speaker 4: I think all three are deserving.
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  Speaker 5: I wouldn't have to get into that, but I think
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  Speaker 5: Rabel was clearly the choice out of those three, and
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  Speaker 5: I'm glad he finally got in. It will be interesting
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  Speaker 5: you sort of touched on this mic. It'd be interesting
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  Speaker 5: to see how we're able to honor him with the
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  Speaker 5: ceremony since he is an active head coach in the league.
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  Speaker 5: Wouldn't necessarily think it would be the normal like late
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  Speaker 5: July early August timeframe, So we'll see how they get
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  Speaker 5: that done.
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  Speaker 4: It's too bad they couldn't do joint practices here and
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  Speaker 4: just bang them out in the summer, you know, like afternoon.
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  Speaker 4: I think rumors headed to Tennessee. Maybe rumors headed to Packers.
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  Speaker 4: We can talk about that as well. But yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 4: just happy for Vrabel And it just felt of all
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  Speaker 4: the guys to kind of string along, he's like the
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  Speaker 4: worst because he just he has no filter, like he's
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  Speaker 4: just gonna call it like guys.
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  Speaker 3: So that that's sort of what I'm looking forward to is, well,
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  Speaker 3: it took me seven times to get in guys, like
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  Speaker 3: thanks very much. He's a he's a ballbuster, right, so
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  Speaker 3: he's he's totally gonna gonna feed into that. So that
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  Speaker 3: should be good. And I think his speech when he
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  Speaker 3: does go in is going to be fantastic. He's one
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  Speaker 3: of those guys that that commands a room and it
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  Speaker 3: can really head coach you can can speak, but I'm
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  Speaker 3: interested to see what he how much he says, because
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  Speaker 3: he's a head coach for a rival AFC team, and
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  Speaker 3: I would think that a lot of the things that
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  Speaker 3: he did as a as a player, just tactically schematically.
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  Speaker 3: Probably a lot that going on in Tennessee for the
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  Speaker 3: guys that play on the end of the line. So
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  Speaker 3: I'm curious to see how much he opens up about
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  Speaker 3: some of the things that went on in his playing
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  Speaker 3: career from that perspective. But he's going to have a
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  Speaker 3: great a great speech, I'm sure.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. One of the things I in Teddy Bruski's book
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  Speaker 4: was interesting just talking about Rabel, how he really said,
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  Speaker 4: I really didn't like him. I really didn't like Rabel
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  Speaker 4: very much when they first started interacting, and I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I think he can can probably see why I don't.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe you can speak.
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  Speaker 5: Well, they actually had a big falling out and sort
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  Speaker 5: of toward the end.
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  Speaker 4: As well.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, they didn't get along because Mike was exactly the
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  Speaker 5: way I even't described. Mike was a professional ball buster
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  Speaker 5: and Teddy was always really serious. So I think that
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  Speaker 5: they Yeah, I think they clashed a little bit in that,
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  Speaker 5: but then they got close. And then Bruski had his
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  Speaker 5: health scare with you know, the stroke and everything that
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  Speaker 5: went along with it, and Mike is the same all
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  Speaker 5: the time. Mike just kept with the ball busting and
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  Speaker 5: Teddy didn't like it, and then they sort of hashed
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  Speaker 5: it out, and I think they're still pretty close now.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean those some of the stories that
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  Speaker 5: you hear over the years of you know, he used
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  Speaker 5: to make fun of the stroke. Everything was was fair
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  Speaker 5: game to Mike, I mean, and it was like you
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  Speaker 5: you like, yeah, I was spare game too. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: he he did it to Bill Belichick. I you know,
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  Speaker 5: I have a couple of stories that I could tell,
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  Speaker 5: but they're not really suitable for the air. Just he
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  Speaker 5: had one of those personalities either loved him or hated him,
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  Speaker 5: and I loved him, Yeah, absolutely loved him.
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  Speaker 4: Me too. I just enjoyed watching him play. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: the two thousand and five things. I don't know how
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  Speaker 4: much aware of it you were at the time, Evan,
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  Speaker 4: when he you know, moved to the inside. They'd signed
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  Speaker 4: Monty Basil and Chad Brown, and you you go from hey,
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  Speaker 4: we got Teddy Bruski and Ted Johnson Roman Fifer on
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  Speaker 4: the inside, like, you know, this great trio, and then
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  Speaker 4: all of a sudden, it's money Basil and and Chad
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  Speaker 4: Brown trying to go to the inside, and it was
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  Speaker 4: it was a disaster. The two thousand and five. I
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  Speaker 4: think they got smoked by the Chargers here at home,
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  Speaker 4: and that felt like it was, you know, not going
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  Speaker 4: in a great direction. But then Vrabel kind of slid
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  Speaker 4: inside and was able to pick up the slack in there,
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  Speaker 4: so did a lot I think I was. I was
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  Speaker 4: also too just to bring it up. I was surprised
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  Speaker 4: when he got traded. That was I think that was
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  Speaker 4: one of the more weird, weirder endings for a player
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  Speaker 4: of his kind of caliber here when he was just
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  Speaker 4: kind of almos thrown in as I want to say,
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  Speaker 4: an afterthought, but almost just like a bag of pucks,
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  Speaker 4: you know, like a bag of extra bag of ball. Well,
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  Speaker 4: we'll give you Matt Castle, but hey, we'll throw the
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  Speaker 4: Mike Rabel too. I think some of the light that
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  Speaker 4: was shine on that later was you know, Rabel saying
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  Speaker 4: it was an opportunity for me to go to another
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  Speaker 4: organization and learn from other coaches and you know, start
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  Speaker 4: to really kind of build his foundation for coaching. That
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  Speaker 4: that he went to Ohio State and et cetera.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a little bit of a strange trade,
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  Speaker 5: but you know, you wonder if Kansas City wanted a
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  Speaker 5: little something more you know, for the second round pick.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean it was kind of a disappointing
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  Speaker 5: ending to his career. And they all talk about it,
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  Speaker 5: most of them. That's how it ends.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, most of them don't.
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  Speaker 5: Get to write the final chapter exactly the way they
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  Speaker 5: want it, you know.
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  Speaker 4: But it all worked out. Just a call from Bill. Ye,
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  Speaker 4: we traded you. That's that's right, And that's kind of
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  Speaker 4: well I should say too. No, I got three of
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  Speaker 4: the Green teamers here, Celtics. Are we all feeling pretty
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  Speaker 4: good right now? Guys?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that was the appropriate That was the
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  Speaker 5: appropriate response, right, I don't know, you tell me, Paul, Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: you know, play to your capabilities, that's all anybody asks.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Celtics are fine, Celtics. I already have them
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  Speaker 3: in the NBA Finals.
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  Speaker 4: And how are you doing, Evan? About the Bruns. We
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  Speaker 4: didn't bring it up on Tuesday this time, but you know.
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  Speaker 3: It's tough.
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  Speaker 4: You know, what do you know?
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  Speaker 3: What's tough is is that last night I'm watching the
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  Speaker 3: Celtics do their thing and I'm excited, but there's part
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  Speaker 3: of me that's like this is supposed to be with
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  Speaker 3: the brunt on something, right, This is like they were
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  Speaker 3: supposed to do this together. You know, this this is
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  Speaker 3: not this was not supposed to be a a one
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  Speaker 3: car race here right, Like this was supposed to be
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  Speaker 3: two racing together. So it does hurt that that the
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  Speaker 3: Celtics are are the alone show again, just like last year. Honestly. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's been it's been a tough couple of days in
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  Speaker 3: the in the Lizargart and you know what, it's funny,
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  Speaker 3: it's a film study it for me, I've been busy,
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  Speaker 3: so that that definitely helps. But it hit to you
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  Speaker 3: like weirdly, just at weird times, or you're just like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: craft like that happened, sounds like a breakoup.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, you have to keep yourself busy after a breakout. Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: but in some song, I want you to really focus
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  Speaker 7: on yourself the next time.
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  Speaker 4: Like Evin was just like he's walking through the grocery
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  Speaker 4: store and Zombie Nation came on and he was like,
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  Speaker 4: oh god.
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  Speaker 3: I you know, I've always been a big Bruins fan.
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  Speaker 3: I've always watched the majority of their games, but this
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  Speaker 3: regular season was just so electric. It was much must
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  Speaker 3: watch TV every single game. I mean I'd say that
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  Speaker 3: we probably watched eighty of eighty two regular season games
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  Speaker 3: this year. I mean it was every night, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and then we went to a bunch of games too,
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  Speaker 3: So this one hurt. It did it hurt?
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  Speaker 4: We don't need to be labor it and thank you.
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  Speaker 4: I should mention too, Evan, and I think Alex will
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  Speaker 4: head out. We're gonna hear from Mike Kasiki today, another
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  Speaker 4: free agent and the line of free agents. We talked
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  Speaker 4: to Juju on Tuesday, and now they're also going to
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  Speaker 4: do a conference call with Mike Rabel. Uh, you know,
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  Speaker 4: get his reaction, which I think we're we're all looking
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  Speaker 4: forward to. And then I would say, Alex, what have
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  Speaker 4: you been up to, because you've been out and about
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  Speaker 4: with a lot of different social stuff, a lot of
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  Speaker 4: different players that have been hanging around. Yeah, this's going
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  Speaker 4: on to see.
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  Speaker 7: Our team had at an event every single day leading
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  Speaker 7: up to the draft, so I'm just trying to come
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  Speaker 7: down after the last couple of weeks. But yeah, I
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  Speaker 7: actually got to meet a lot of the new guys
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  Speaker 7: last week, the free agents, new signings at this awesome
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  Speaker 7: video game event that was put on for children and
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  Speaker 7: military families. So that was a good way for guys
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  Speaker 7: like Josechi Juju to kind of get acquainted to all
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  Speaker 7: the stuff we have going on here off the field.
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  Speaker 4: For them get ready. And I know and I saw,
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  Speaker 4: I just saw some footage of Christian Gonzalez. He's back
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  Speaker 4: working out. I know we've all been talking to to
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  Speaker 4: various coaches as we get caught up. Is there anything
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  Speaker 4: so far that you guys would like to share that
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  Speaker 4: you've you've.
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  Speaker 5: A better Evan question, and then I haven't really been
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  Speaker 5: able to touch base with any of my guys.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I can, I can, I can, and I know
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  Speaker 4: you did.
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  Speaker 3: You did Gonzalez, Gonzalez tomorrow, Douglas and Tony Maffei yesterday
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  Speaker 3: with with his offensive line coach at U c l A.
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  Speaker 3: I think the biggest one with Gonzalez, I had a
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  Speaker 3: pretty good talk with A Demetrius Martin and we'll we'll
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  Speaker 3: publish it with all the quotes and everything here in
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  Speaker 3: the next couple of days. But just about his demeanor,
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  Speaker 3: you know, his his play temperament. I think there's a
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  Speaker 3: lot of question marks about his physicality and about his competitiveness.
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  Speaker 3: And he's a more he's a subdued guy, He's a
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  Speaker 3: he's a quiet, soft spoken person. He's not Richard Sherman.
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  Speaker 3: He's not a raw, raw in your face. I'm the
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  Speaker 3: greatest thing ever type of corner. And I think the
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  Speaker 3: big thing that that Martin said, unprompted, said to me
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  Speaker 3: was a lot like Stefan Gilmour. And I had already
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  Speaker 3: thought of that when we sat down with him when
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  Speaker 3: he came in that Friday after the draft. But I
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  Speaker 3: didn't want to put that on the kid, to be like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: he's gonna be like Stefan Gilmore, because you know that
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  Speaker 3: that's a lot of expectation. But I think that from
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  Speaker 3: a personality standpoint, he has this quiet confidence about him
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  Speaker 3: that was very similar to Steph. When you were in
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  Speaker 3: a scrum with Steph, you couldn't hear him, I know,
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  Speaker 3: but when if you were in the front, if you
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  Speaker 3: were in the front of the scrum and you actually
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  Speaker 3: listen to the things that he was saying, the dude
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  Speaker 3: was cocky.
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  Speaker 4: He was very cocky.
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  Speaker 5: He was my favorite interview in all the years because of.
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  Speaker 3: That fantastic I love talking ball with him. He was
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  Speaker 3: awesome and he he would just come right out and
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  Speaker 3: say it, you know. I remember after they played the
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  Speaker 3: Eagles in Philly that game that Brady was grumpy afterwards
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  Speaker 3: because the offense didn't play well, but they still won
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  Speaker 3: the game, and in a couple of key situations they
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  Speaker 3: moved Gilmour on to zach Ertz just because that was
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  Speaker 3: the Phillies go to guy on third down. They didn't
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  Speaker 3: really have anybody on the outside at the time, and
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  Speaker 3: he basically just said it was easy. He was like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Gilmore was like, well, it's much easier than
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  Speaker 3: covering a receiver. He's slow, you know, he's slow.
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  Speaker 5: I used to do things I used to do, like
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  Speaker 5: matchups for you know, key matchups during the week heading
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  Speaker 5: into games, and I remember talking to him about one
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  Speaker 5: in particular, and I'm not going to say the name,
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  Speaker 5: but you know, I was like, you know, so, you know,
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  Speaker 5: what is what kinds of challenges does he you know?
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  Speaker 4: Present? Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: He said none, yeah, yeah, only it was yeah, none, really,
• 14:24
  Speaker 5: you know, that's how he said. It was like Richard
• 14:26
  Speaker 5: Sherman would be at a podium saying, you know, Michael
• 14:30
  Speaker 5: cap Crabtree, you can't put a.
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: Sorry receiver on you know.
• 14:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Steph was saying the same thing, just coming across
• 14:37
  Speaker 5: an entirely different.
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: I think I know who you're talking about, but we
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: don't have to say the name.
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: Okay, he's not on the team. Now, I don't know
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: this guy. I just do it. Now, why would you
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: automatically go there?
• 14:49
  Speaker 8: I know?
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: But yeah, no, I the guy that I know that
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: he said that about is not on the team.
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: Okay, good, Yeah, because I was thinking back to J. C.
• 14:57
  Speaker 4: Jackson kind of rolling his eyes. Yeah yeah, somebody else.
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but that was the big takeaway from that one,
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: I felt like. And the other thing that he mentioned,
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: which I thought was as soon as he said this,
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh god, this is so patriot like.
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: He he said that he kept Gonzalez's notebooks to show
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: freshmen coming in this is how you take notes during meetings.
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: And he said that Gonzalez's notebooks were organized, color coded,
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: like everything just you know, completely perfect. And he was like,
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: you know that, that's what I want my young guys
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: to emulate. And obviously, with Gonzalez being a first round pick,
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: it's easy to get guys on board when you say, hey,
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: this is what Christian Gonzales did and look at where
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: it got him. And these guys come in and they say, well,
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: I want to be drafted in the first round too,
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: so they go ahead and they mimic it. That was
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: the big thing from him, I think, you know, with
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: with Mafi, we talked a lot about Bill Belichick's relationship
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: with Chip Kelly and how after the Shrine Bowl Coach
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: Belichick called Coach Kelly and they had a long talk
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: about some of the U c l A guys and
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: Mafi's name was one of the big names.
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: That that was Bbo one of the big names too.
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: He didn't mention anybody else.
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: He just said it, and I'll just assume it was.
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: I don't right because in my back of my head,
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: I was thinking DTR, you know, Bobo like the other
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: what did he What did he say about DTR because
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: they obviously didn't draft I don't think he was at
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: the Shrine Bowl, but he was a LA running back
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: and uh and he said that, you know, based off
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: of the conversations he had with Chip, that that you know,
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: Coach Belichick was really really high on on Mafy coming
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: off the Shrine Bowl. So one of those guys that
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: if you had known that back then, he would have
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: been in all of our ur mock drafts, you know,
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: for the next six months. So that was interesting trying
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: to think who was the to Mario Douglas. I got
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: a lot of you know, Marcus Jones, but on offense, right,
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: those types of plays maybe not quite as dynamic as
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: Marcus in the open field. But that's the idea that
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: a lot of people thought of. And one thing that
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: was interesting about him was that the Patriots went into
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: the Shrine Bowl wanting to coach to Mario Douglas, and
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: the Shrinebral director Eric Galco said to me, you know,
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: they said they had to me a list of like
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: ten to fifteen guys. Most of them were guys that
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: were big names that were going to get drafted in
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: the first you know, three or four rounds of the draft,
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: and then randomly they just had to Mario Douglas on
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: the list. And he just said, I had to tip
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: my cap, like that's good scouting, Like this kid is
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: a good player, and you know, so they had him
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: on the radar because of the Malik Willis season the
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: year before, and they wanted to coach him as well.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: So a couple of guys there from the Shrine Bowl
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: that I think the Patriots were all over, even back
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: in January.
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: I've done a couple. I talked to Timpu's coach, who
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: was his defensive coordinator at Sacramento State and then was
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: promoted the head which this last year. But interestingly enough
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: grew up with with Drew Bledsoe. His dad, coroached with
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: Drew Bledsoe and in Walla Wallace, of course, I had
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 18:06
  Speaker 7: There's so many Patriots connections.
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: Well, I know, I wrote a whole little thing about
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: it with Sam Mateo and and Mafi, you know, going
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: to to the school with where Brady went. Of course,
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: Junior Sea, the Junior Se connection, which was another thing
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: that Devon cousin. Devon cousin, Yeah, City Sat was talking
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: about all the Patriots fans up in Quebec. But I
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: stopped listening after he said he was a Canadians fan.
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: Like I don't, I don't care what you have to
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: say that there should be some fun in the in
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: the locker room this year with that, with him being
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: a Canadians fan.
• 18:39
  Speaker 7: To speak French too, he speaks beautiful French.
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: Well, it's a beautiful language. And I've reached out to
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: Deon Sanders because I mean, I think everybody probably saw
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: Isaiah Bolden. The tweet about Isaiah Bolden that Deon Sanders
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: put out, I'm not I'm not hoping to you know,
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: get get him reached out to, you know, Jackson State's
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: new head coach as well, who was with the team
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: last year. But you know, these are the kind of
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: things we do. After the draft, We try to, you know,
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: reach out to these coaches and I mean, you always
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: gets as Paul jokes, you know, you get a very
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: favorable opinion of these guys. Of course, they love their guys,
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: they wanted to do well, but it's it's just interesting
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: to learn about their journey to getting to this.
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's why, like when I talk to them, I'm
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: less interested in what they think of them as players,
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: although obviously I asked those questions, but I'm more interested in,
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: you know, the personality and their interactions with their teammates
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: and the background.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's really I'm the same way. It's
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: just tell me the story of the player, because these guys,
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: there's no way that we're going to know some of
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: the details that these coaches are going to know. And
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: it's cool to hear a lot, you know. Demetrius Martin
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: told me that he tried to recruit Gonzales to Arizona
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: originally and didn't get them. He ended up committing to Colorado,
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: and then it just so happens that Martin ended up
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: getting a job at Colorado a year later and then
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: ended up coaching Gonzales for three years anyway, So it
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: just kind of those connections and how those types of
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: things tend to work out. And then tomorrow I got
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: a Jim Nagy on UH. He's gonna give me a
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: call and we're gonna talk about uh, Jake Andrews and
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: some of the Senior Bowl guys and see what he
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: has to say about the draft in general. As an
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: ex Patriot exec scout, I.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: Interested to see what they say about Mapu because I
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: mean that was something I talked to his coach about.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: He was a late call up and I made some impression.
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: I mean, you should check out Evans piece that he
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: wrote about him today. A lot of focus on his
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: performance there in the practice. I think he only played
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: a half. That we got a little bit of an injury.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: I mean, I know that's a concern about the torn peck.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: He said he should be available by training camp, but
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: otherwise very durable player played. He's the coach said, he's
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: every game, every practice. He was always there and got
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: a little bit of interesting bits to talk to. Eastern
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: Michigan coach Course City sou and Uh and the kicker
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: Chad Ryland both spent time there. I can't keep track
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: all these guys. There's too many, well, twelve is too many.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: Also, the nil situation and all these guys training, like
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: Gonzales was two years at Colorado then or again, and
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: no one's at one school for all four.
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: Of my guys. I think we're at multiple schools.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: I really like what the coach said about Ryland though
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: the quote I share what Paul was. He said he
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: came out of the womb mature, like he's just a
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: mature kid, unflappable in I mean, it's all the things
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: you would hope from a kicker. Yeah, yeah, I mean,
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I just I haven't seen him and
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: I haven't met him, but he looked he looked really
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: young to me. That's why I'm trying to like kind
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: of circle all that back of like he's really mature,
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: but he looks like he's like fourteen.
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: It is one of those things that you'll start now
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: that you're starting to get a little older, Mike, you'll
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: stuck a little bit.
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: Just how much younger they all look. I appreciate that.
• 21:38
  Speaker 7: I already feel because when I started doing this, I'm
• 21:41
  Speaker 7: like the same age as these guys, maybe even younger
• 21:43
  Speaker 7: in some cases.
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: And now I'm just like, wait till you're older than
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: every professional athlete currently playing.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: I don't think you and I can talk quite yet.
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: Your veterans, your veteran age now though, Like if you're
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: playing sports, you're not the You're not the young bucks.
• 21:59
  Speaker 7: I am d or twise his age, Yeah, we're the
• 22:01
  Speaker 7: same age.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: How I think about this a lot with with players
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: like Matthew Judah and I are roughly the same age.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: Matthew Judah, Like, I'm just I'm just like what wait what.
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: Or you see these guys that were born in like
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: two thousands? Yeah, like I was, I was already an adult.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I just look at Judaan and I look
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: at myself and I'm like, where this Like I'm a
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: child in comparison size wise?
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Right?
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: And I just think Brandon Merriweather was the first guy
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: that I watched him, you know, when we had the
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: whole Dog and Pony show on the field when they
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: you know, Robin and Jonathan bring him out and I
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: was looking, I was like, he's a baby, and that
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: was what seven yeah.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: So that's when it kind of like hit to me,
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: like I'm way I mean, obviously I was older than
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: all of them at the start, but I'm way older
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: than all of these guys now. And it's like, I
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: don't think anything more and more pronounced every year.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: I don't think anything's as striking as that introduction, just
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: because I think it's usually a kid who isn't used
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: to that, like being put on the on the stage
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: and you know, and it's funny because the Q and
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: A they don't even like they give him a microphone
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: and no one goes near them. It's almost like the
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: audience it's so strange. Ask some questions like hello, Christian,
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: thank you for coming, Like, well, what do you think.
• 23:15
  Speaker 7: He's on the stage in front of like twenty people?
• 23:18
  Speaker 7: Maybe who are I mean, I've seen him twenty five
• 23:21
  Speaker 7: feet behind him.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: I've seen him coll and Mac and just each one
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: of those guys. It's just like, oh my god, they
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: are babies and this is you know, you just you
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: forget that these kids seem so young, and yet they've
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: got to go into the NFL and deal with like
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: these giant, mean guys. I mean, I think key On
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: White looks ready to deal with it, but someone like
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: Christian Cane.
• 23:41
  Speaker 7: I was doing some stalking on social media also trying
• 23:44
  Speaker 7: to get acquainted with these players for my own pieces.
• 23:47
  Speaker 7: I saw tweet from the official Gardner High School lacrosse
• 23:50
  Speaker 7: account congratulating lacrosse a lum key On White for getting drafted,
• 23:56
  Speaker 7: and I can't find anything else about him playing.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: Lacrosse in high schools.
• 24:02
  Speaker 7: So I spent way too much time this morning looking
• 24:06
  Speaker 7: at North Carolina high schools Tarty trying to find anything
• 24:09
  Speaker 7: I can find about him playing lacrosse, because everything is
• 24:12
  Speaker 7: just football and basketball. But if he played lacrosse, I
• 24:14
  Speaker 7: can't wait for people to drive that narrative into the ground.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: Well it'd be like Jim Brown, right, I mean, they
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: had to change the lacrosse rules because if Jim Brown
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: he just put the ball over his chest and through everybody,
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: it'd probably be something similar.
• 24:24
  Speaker 7: But I saw a story about him too. He was
• 24:26
  Speaker 7: playing basketball once and like popped his ankle out of
• 24:30
  Speaker 7: place and just popped it right back in.
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: Oh.
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a very bad injury for him.
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean two years that kind of right, I mean.
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he that was part of the because Marco Coleman,
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: who some of our listeners, Evan, I bet you did,
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: Mike didn't. He had a long NFL career. He was
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: a defensive line coach at Georgia Tech and he's been
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: there for four years. But unfortunately he had left and
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: came back and he did not coach keon last year,
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: the year that he kind of broke out right, And
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: you know, so when I was talking to and that
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: I was talking to the one of the you know,
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: people in sports information, and we discussed that, it's like, yeah,
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: like the year that Marco was with him, he had
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: that freak. I think he slipped like on a T
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: shirt or something like that and dislocated his ankle and
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: basically cost him the whole season. He played sparingly in
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: about four games that that year, and it wasn't until
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: last year that he sort of re established the level
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: that he left ODU with. So that was a significant
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: injury for him, that that ankle problem. And I think
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: you know, Booty obviously has a significant. He's the only
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: one of the four guys that I'm doing profiles that
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: was at the same school all his whole career. The
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: other three were at multiple schools.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, when I was talking to some people on Monday
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: that the injury for for Kean White did come up,
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: and I was I didn't really know how bad it was,
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: But seems like before the injury, that explosiveness, that first
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: step that I didn't really see on film was more
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: present before the injury. So maybe as we've put some
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: distance between that even more, that that comes back a
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: little bit. But it's just really interesting to hear all
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: their stories, and a lot of these guys, I think,
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: you know, our late breakout players, you know, like a
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: guy like Tomoro Douglas is not even on anybody's radar
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: until the Malik Willis year a couple of years ago.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: Even from high school where he's getting basically fcs and
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: Division two offers, he's not on nobody's radar, despite setting
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: records at his high school and receiving and receiving touchdowns.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: But even then still it's just not it's too late,
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: you know, once he's a senior in high school, all
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: these recruiting classes are already filled out by that point
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: for a lot of these major schools. So he might
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: have gone to a Power five program had he been
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: a junior breakout in high school, but because it didn't
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: happen until fall the senior you know, they've already handed
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: out all of their scholarships and all of their roster
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: spots and things like that. So it's always interesting to
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: hear about the late breakout guys.
• 27:08
  Speaker 7: Especially with COVID too, Like a lot of these guys
• 27:10
  Speaker 7: had to deal with It's.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: Such a factor.
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: It's another thing that like again, except for Booty, the
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: other three guys are like six years six six year
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: college careers for whatever they set out.
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of them transferred because of that. I mean,
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: it's it's still an impact.
• 27:24
  Speaker 7: I mean, and the scouting side too, to scout try
• 27:27
  Speaker 7: and scout players.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: When that's you've still got the massive guys coming in.
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, City sounds like twenty five. I
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: mean he's going to be twenty five, I think next month,
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: So he's a six year guy. Yeah. That and I
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: should say too, that was another interesting piece of my
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: conversation with with coach Creighton there in Eastern Michigan was that.
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: You know, he said, if I had two City Souths,
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: they would have played left guard and left tackle, and
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: we just felt we could he would be more effective
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: for us overall with what we run being on the inside.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: So I know that that was some speculation over the
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: last couple of days. I mean, I don't want to
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: put too much into it because I feel like some
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: people see a report that City said could possibly play tackle,
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, they're like, well, that's it, it
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: all makes sense. Now he's going to be there new
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: Like I don't know, but he's a big, powerful dude.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: And the coach kept talking about just his kind of
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: surprising athleticism. For you know, somebody came from Canada, was
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: a defensive lineman. He said, we watched him. They were
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: I think you guys probably know the story. They were
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: on a bus of like forty Canadian kids driving around
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: to different showcases and camps, trying to, you know, show
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: what they can do to college coaches, and the Eastern
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: Michigan guys saw him and right away were like, he
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: can play offensive line. They were actually there to see
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: somebody else and they liked Citi sow Enough, who was
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: at the time a defensive lineman. They liked him enough
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: as his projection that they offered him right there to
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: be on the offensive line. And then, you know, I
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: think he paid like dress for fifty five games, started
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: like fifty three games. So you know, it's a double
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: edged sword. On one hand, You're right, he's old and
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: you know he's probably maxed out. But at the same time,
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: he's got a lot of experience. So hopefully that maybe
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: helps accelerate his development process and you know, maybe he
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: does end up because I don't see it as a
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: monumental task to say if he can tackle that he
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: could be that third swing tackle this year, you know
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: behind Maybe let's say we start off with I don't know,
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: at right tackle, you know the vet and you know
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: Trump Brown, you know Riley Reef and Trent Brown, and
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: then wait for you know, do somebody get hurt, does
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: somebody break down, and then maybe at that point you
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: make a move. But I think an opportunity is there
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: if he could possibly make that switch.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's interesting that you mentioned that he
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: that he played defense, because Mafi was a nose tackle
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: for two years at UCLA before they moved him over
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: and I think one of the interesting things about him
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: was he's like four hundred pounds playing nose tackle, and
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: then his coaches said that this year he really bought
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: in to the program, brought into being you know, a
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: pro pro so to speak, and lost like forty pounds
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: from diet and exercise and all that type of stuff.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: So he was a big, big guy, played nose tackle,
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: was a regular contributor at nose tackle, and then switches
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: over to guard. And he just looks like Mike on Winnoo.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: You know, he's built like Mike on win who moves
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: like Mike on w I knew, so he's someone that
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: definitely projects inside. But sow I he's got the athleticism
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: for it. I mean, his arm length is right on
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: the threshold, like he just checks the box barely. But
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: his athleticism at the combine definitely tests out as an
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: above average tackle athlete. So we'll see. He hasn't played
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: tackle since eighteen or nineteen. First year, I think, yeah,
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: and he his guard tape definitely showed somebody that his
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: skill set is best suited at guard. It's pretty similar
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: to ANUNU right where yeah, he could play tackle, but
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: just the way that he plays in a phone booth
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: just looks better to play him out at guard. I
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: think if you give him more space and ask him
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: to block on an island in pass protection, I don't
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: know if he's necessarily going to hold up out there,
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: but we'll see. I mean, this is what.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: They don't have a lot of young promising depth there.
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I know Andrew Stuer. I don't know
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: if any of these guys are going to does he exists?
• 30:57
  Speaker 9: I've forgotten about last year's d.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: That's something Paul broke me up. I think as having
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: high expectations for low, low output guy like not that
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: I ever had high, but you know, you always just
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: have in the back of your mind like this guy,
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: he didn't do anything.
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: I think it's kind of a simple thing and there's
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: always outliers. But I feel like when you have new
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: guys that come on to the team in general, if
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: they turn out to be something significant, you see it
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: right away.
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: There are definitely examples of guys that are on like
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: IR the first year or practice squad and afterthought, and
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: then they year two. It's a big jump. But like
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: to me, Ronnie Perkins as an example, that's a good one.
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: You know, when he comes in as a rookie and
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: you're not seeing him with regular players. I don't want
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: to use the starters and backups because I know they
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: don't like that. But when you don't see him getting
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: a lot of reps, I don't think that they feel
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: like he is potentially going to be a part of
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: the mix. And conversely, sometimes you see some young guys
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: that are from day one, Wow, he's like rotating in
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: with David Andrews at center, and not just to use
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: a butler.
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: Wasn't he one that just was kind of getting some.
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: Constantly showing up in groups with the front line players,
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: and you're like, they like this kid. You can tell
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: they like them because they're letting him play with guys
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: that are going to be playing. And again it's there's
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: never one hundred percent one or the other. But yeah,
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: Andrew Stuber was injured coming in, so I'm going to
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: give him a little bit of a pass. We'll see,
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: but I'd be surprised if they thought a lot of
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: chasing Hines and Andrew Stuber based on drafting three more
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: quote unquote backup offensive lineman in day three.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: Especially in the in the fourth round. The fourth round
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: is usually a lock to make the roster.
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, most likely not going to get cut.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, unless they're completely in over their heads
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: in training camp. Now, could I see one of those
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: guys getting Foxborough fluide and you stash them an I
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: are for a year one hundred and ten percent. But
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: in terms of protecting them where they can't be poached
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: by other teams, you don't just cut fourth round picks.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: Most of the time as rookies, those guys tend to stick.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: And I think Mafi, even though he's a fifth rounder,
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: I would put him in that category too, just based
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: off of.
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: How much I like his profile better than the other two.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: Well, I like his film better than the other two too.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: I think he can really play, and at the Shrine
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: Bowl he was one of the better linemen there. And
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: I remember talking to some people at the Shrine Bowl
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: and a lot of them were pretty lukewarm on the
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: linement that were there. You know, the guys are probably
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: going to be end of the draft, maybe you know,
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: priority free agents for the most part, but he was
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: somebody that really stood out, especially his play strength and
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: his ability to pull like he's three hundred and thirty pounds.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: But he can pull and he can block on the
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: move a little bit better than you would expect. I
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: think that comes from playing defense maybe and being a
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: little bit lighter on his feet than you would expect.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: So I like him the best out of all of
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: them as well.
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: All right, A five to five pats five hundred. You
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: like to give us a call, send us an email,
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: web radio at Patriots dot com. I don't know Star
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: Wars questions yet. I'm holding out hope for one of them,
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: and we're gonna lose Evan.
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: And Alex nice Jeff setting the table, make thank you.
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: I appreciate that. I'm gonna do a better job reading
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: the emails today because I don't want Audrey up my
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: butt still about my so I'm going to read them slowly.
• 34:11
  Speaker 7: I saw the Patriots unfiltered like without context account tweet
• 34:15
  Speaker 7: that yesterday and I was like, what.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: After I left. I appreciate it. I appreciate it, and
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: you know, hey, we can all take a little constructive
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: criticism and you know, try to be better and all that, right,
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: But let's let's jump to the phones.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: We got Todd in North Carolina.
• 34:28
  Speaker 10: Hate Todd Hey, guys, I said before draft that I
• 34:32
  Speaker 10: was really hoping that they would address the current league
• 34:35
  Speaker 10: model on how everything works. I think they made that
• 34:38
  Speaker 10: an attempt. I think with their draft picks, they didn't
• 34:40
  Speaker 10: get a receiver early. They tried to build up the defense.
• 34:44
  Speaker 10: They did take a couple of interesting receiver prospect blate,
• 34:47
  Speaker 10: but they built up in speed and stuff. And I
• 34:49
  Speaker 10: remember calling in pre draft and talking to you guys
• 34:51
  Speaker 10: and think, you know, this is how I could judge
• 34:54
  Speaker 10: whether you know, Bill still had his hat in the game.
• 34:57
  Speaker 10: And I really think the draft shows that he does that.
• 34:59
  Speaker 10: They made an.
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: Effort, all right.
• 35:03
  Speaker 10: And my other comment is Juju. I really like what
• 35:07
  Speaker 10: he said. I really think that the offense needs to
• 35:10
  Speaker 10: get some Juju.
• 35:12
  Speaker 11: It's very honest.
• 35:13
  Speaker 10: I think they're really kind of a lot of sorts
• 35:15
  Speaker 10: and hopefully, you know, he's a part to bringing him back.
• 35:17
  Speaker 10: And that's all I got.
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: Guy.
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I watched the Juju film. I am I did
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: like him. He came out. I don't know what I expected.
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: Like you just you hear about these guys. They get
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: this is Juju Smith Schuster. I mean, I don't know
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: what he's like off the field, but you just know
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: him as a player, and then you know, you get
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: to see him talking. I mean, I he seemed came
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: off likable, came off soft spoken. I thought he said
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: most of the right things. You know, we'll see how
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: it all translates onto the field.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that, you know. Just I was listening
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: to some some national podcasts and podcast because I like
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: to get I like to get what people's opinions are
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: of the Patriots that aren't here right, that aren't glueden,
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: that aren't as negative as Paul's shows, but also aren't
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: as as inside it like we are. You know, they're
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: so close to right. So I was listening to Robert
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: Mays and those guys in the athletic who I think
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: do a great job, and they were a lot of
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: them were gushing about the talent on the Patriots defense,
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: and I thought that I was just being kind of
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: a homer when I looked at the depth chart and
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: was like, this is kind of a pretty impressive defense.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: But I really feel like on that side of the
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: football now, I think the biggest thing is probably Devin
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: mccordy and how they replace the communication and the and
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: the experience and that element on the back end. But
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: if you just look at talent, their defense on paper
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: is one of the better defenses in the league.
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: If Gonzales pans out to be what we think he's
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: going to be, big if because what do we know,
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: But if he does, then that significantly improves I think
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: the talent level in the secondary.
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not everybody.
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: You just knock everybody down a peg, but they don't
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: have a guy with that profile, right, So if he's
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: really good, I think that's a really valuable piece to
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: have back there.
• 36:53
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would still hold up pass rush depth like
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: a post Jude on injury, Like I don't know if
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: they're if they're set to accommodate that. And I just
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: I could go either way on Kim White, like I see,
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: you know, everything that we've talked about with him, Like
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: there's and and I and I love defensive guys, like
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: I love a guy that, in theory, could you know,
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: be moved all around the defensive line and just be
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: a big, mean, wrecking ball. But I think to like
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: what we've just been saying, I don't see that like
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: like like with Ucha for example, like I knew Uch
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: was a limited guy when we drafted him, he didn't
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: really play early downs there. He was there, what he
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: was here, But when I talked to you know, his coach,
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: but I talked to Don Brown about him, he was like, look,
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: this guy can run the arc like nobody else, and
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: he's going to bring that skill into the NFL immediately
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: and challenge the outside shoulder of offensive tackles. And you know,
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: Kim White, I'm just searching for, like, what is that
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: one thing he does great? Like he seems powerful, but
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: it never seems, you know, in what I've seen of him,
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: to really blow the play up before it develops. It's
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: it's it's almost like the uh. It's almost like the
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: Nelson Aguiler thing where it's like all right, it always
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: happens like way late in the down, and like that's
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: not what we need. We need consistent early down disruption,
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: you know, not like all right, well, Nelson Egler caught
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: all these passes when I heard some breaks and somebody
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: launches it. And I heard someone.
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: Talking about White in exactly that manner earlier this week,
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: and that was my first thuhs, Like, and he gets
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: a lot of pressure, but it's like right as the
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: you know, the passes. So he doesn't have a lot
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: of sacks. I'm like, well then, yeah, like not to
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: what end then? Now, I would say it sounds to
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: me like he might be one of those guys that
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: we see his impact more on on third downs, passing
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: downs when he's on the inside. I think he might
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: be able to be three techniques, you know, a guy
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: that can collapse the pocket from the inside. Maybe not
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: racking up big numbers, but maybe his power is going
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: to be able to take advantage of those interior guys.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I know a lot of people that thought that
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: his best NFL role would be a three technique on
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: the inside rushing over the guard instead of outside. But
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: they I think they see him as a five, like
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: a straight up over the tackle type of guy.
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: I definitely think that.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: And I don't necessarily think that he's going to be
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: flashy or super productive, but I think, you know, with
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: everything that I've gathered about him, that he's gonna just
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: be solid, Like he's just going to be a solid,
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: rotational guy that maybe down the road becomes a starter,
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: but for now, he's going to be able to play
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: in an NFL football game right away, And I guess
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: there's something to be said for that, especially in the
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: second round. I think they've taken some chances in the
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: second round on the upside. You know, guys like a
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: Taekwon Thorton, like a Juwan Williams even that have these
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: physical traits with this upside, but didn't necessarily have the
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: floor of a player like Keon White. So I'm trying
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: to talk myself into it too, because it's not out
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: of all their picks the day three guys. At that
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: point of the draft, you do what you do on
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: Day three, right, you fill your holes and you feel
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: your schematic fits and your culture guys and like whatever.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: But on the top one hundred, I feel like that's
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: more where you can kind of look at and see
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: what they really did. And he's the one guy out
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: of the three in the top one hundred that I'm
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: still I got to see it in training camp and
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: early on in this season for me to be a
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: big time believer. But I do think that he'll be
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: able to play a role on defense in some capacity.
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: He could be ready to replace Dietrich Wise too. You know,
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: I mean he's not getting any younger.
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: He's Alex's age, right, I know, the six year breakout.
• 40:13
  Speaker 7: He just had a baby though, so maybe his dad's strength.
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: Now, Oh that's what I asked. I love teach I
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: lost all my strength when I had Oh you lose
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: that strength when happen? Yes, what is dad strength? Yeah?
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: I I But there's also part of me with White
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: that's just like holding out hope that like he's going
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: to get here and the injury is going to finally
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: be behind him and it's all going to kind of
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: click for him, and I want to feel like I
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: felt with bar Moore in twenty twenty one's camp, where
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: it's like every one on one you saw the guy go,
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: it's it's it's a handful, you know. I just I
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: just want to see him be a handful early on
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: in training camp. It's so hard to judge those guys,
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: you know, especially early on in camp when they're not
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: even in pads yet, and then even when they get
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: in pads, you get a handful of you know, one
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: on ones from across the field that you're trying to
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: trying to figure out. So I'm still holding out home by.
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying on most of these guys. Right like,
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: after selling, I can talk myself into everybody, like I
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: have Marty Maps, I'm trying to do that with Mapu
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: is just Matt mallotap to me in my head already
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: right Like I've already totally sold myself on that one.
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: Haven't put that in my head on Saturday, and I've
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: been trying to get there.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: But but I got to see it on the field
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: in the summer, like with pads On that's obviously. So
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: we're a long way away from that. So we'll see.
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: We're gonna like a couple of weeks with MIDI camp.
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: Like he looks big, you know, like.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: But it's like, you know, Sam Roberts looks big, I know,
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: like Sam Roberts looks like an NFL player walking off
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: the bus, but he he adds occasional flash in camp
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: as a rookie, but we really need to see it
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: from kee round.
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's like the seventh round version of White And
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: I thought too when they selected him. He was one
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: of the guys that I talked to. I mean, he's
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: a D two player I think with you know, but
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: but same kind of thing, like one of those just
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: those big, powerful guys that don't really have an exact
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: position maybe for some NFL teams but you know here
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: they're they're useful because they can move around. Uh all right,
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: let's jump back to the phones and we got let's
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: see always, let's see always doing will and film. Hey, wellam,
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: how are you doing?
• 42:10
  Speaker 12: Man' I'm okay, Uh not as good as yesterday, but
• 42:15
  Speaker 12: I'm okay.
• 42:15
  Speaker 11: All right the day though?
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: All right, that's I'm well.
• 42:19
  Speaker 12: How are everybody doing on the PANEA? Everybody goody good?
• 42:22
  Speaker 12: So okay, all right, I'm a school I'm alex from
• 42:26
  Speaker 12: this one. But this is for the for the fellas, Okay,
• 42:29
  Speaker 12: it so is this is this is all we're going
• 42:34
  Speaker 12: with far as the on the offensive side night. So
• 42:37
  Speaker 12: you're just because basically all they did in terms of
• 42:40
  Speaker 12: the receiving part is you just swapped out players.
• 42:42
  Speaker 13: That's all you did.
• 42:43
  Speaker 12: You didn't really add anything. Well and to a lot
• 42:45
  Speaker 12: of lottery fix the six round picks that you might,
• 42:48
  Speaker 12: I guess you are hoping they tend out. So is
• 42:51
  Speaker 12: that all we're going is that's all that's gonna be
• 42:53
  Speaker 12: added to help mac Jim.
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: Yes, because you didn't get attack ration yep. Yeah, I
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: mean there's was a chance that you could make a trade.
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: But yeah, I would say that what you see is
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: what you get. Offensively, they like their tackles better than
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: everybody else. Whether we agree with that or not, we listen, William.
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: I'll be the first one to tell you. I got
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: some humble pie on Tuesday from Paul over there about
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: being knowing knowing more than Bill Belichick. Oh yeah, so
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: I'll tell you they might know more than us about
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: the tackles, all right, So we got to give them
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: a chance to play the tackles.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: I hear you on the receivers, I really do. But
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: I think the one interesting thing that you know, when
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: I had some conversations the other day that someone said
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: to me is that, you know, Bill Walsh was a
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: big believer that that number one receiver, he was the
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: final piece to the puzzle. Right, It wasn't. You didn't
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: just throw the number one receiver, you know, the Jerry
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: Rice to his you know, for Bill Walsh's you know mind,
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: you don't just throw that guy in when you're still
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: rebuilding the rest of the roster. You know, when the
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: Bills were ready to take that next step, that's when
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: they made that Stefan Digg's tray. When the Eagles are
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: ready to take that next step. That's when they made
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: the aj Brown trade. And as much as I want
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: the Patriots to make that trade too, I do wonder
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: if they felt like they were still a year away
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: from that guy really doing the service that we all
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: want him to do, of moving that needle from you know, uh,
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: one one direction to another. So I totally hear you
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: on the receivers. I think we're all in the same
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: boat on that. But maybe maybe that move comes next offseason.
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: Is as much as we want to see it right away.
• 44:26
  Speaker 12: Okay, So let me let me ask you this, Evan,
• 44:28
  Speaker 12: But I have I have another take after this one day. Okay,
• 44:31
  Speaker 12: So all right, So Tom Tom Brady's been going since
• 44:35
  Speaker 12: what twenty nineteen? Correct, So we already hit in twenty
• 44:39
  Speaker 12: twenty three. Now, so how long does it take to
• 44:41
  Speaker 12: build because already build messed up one season already for unfortunately,
• 44:46
  Speaker 12: you know what I'm saying. So, how long does it
• 44:47
  Speaker 12: take to build a team to get them to be
• 44:50
  Speaker 12: back in a competitive mode or championship mode or whatever?
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, depends on yes, how long do you need?
• 44:58
  Speaker 12: You know what I mean? You know what I'm saying.
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: Well, I think that the answer for that is different
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: you know, like does it work and does the quarterback work?
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: And I mean I've seen teams turning around in one year.
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: I've seen teams spin their wheels for a decade, right,
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: Like I mean, let's hope that the Patriots aren't in
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: that situation.
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yep, what I mean.
• 45:14
  Speaker 12: But go ahead, Okay, so you're saying, you're saying you
• 45:18
  Speaker 12: see other teams do there?
• 45:20
  Speaker 13: Okay?
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: So well, like like the Jets for example, you know
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: the last time they made the playoffs was what.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: Twenty Mark Sanchez?
• 45:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah right, I mean, so you know, then you look
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: at some other teams that you know that they were good,
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: you know, like Kansas City, you know they were good.
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: They were playoff team with Alex Smith, they sort of
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: recalibrated and immediately jumped to another level with Patrick Mahomes, Like,
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: there's no blueprint. Answer, Well, it takes three years to
• 45:49
  Speaker 5: rebuild properly. No, Like it depends on how you hit
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: on your picks and your players. And I'm sorry to
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: break it down to just one thing, but you're quarterback. Yeah,
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: like that matters.
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: Well, I would, and I would break it down a
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: different way though, I would. I would say, how long
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: does the ownership and fan base have patience for you
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: know that. And and just real quick before I let
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: you make your point, William, I just I went back
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: and I just looked at all the three other AFC
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: East teams over the last twenty years, and you know
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: what was it like for them? What was the average
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: that that they were willing to go with a coach
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: quarterback kind of combination, And usually it was three or
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: four years, Like if you made the playoffs or had
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: a pretty good season, you might get that fourth year,
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: but usually it's three years at least as far as those.
• 46:32
  Speaker 5: Are the problem for that, you can't really compare the
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: Patriots situation to anybody else because no one else has
• 46:38
  Speaker 5: a coach that's been doing it for twenty three years,
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: not twenty five. R Like he's telling you, yeah, it's
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: tough to fire and fire Bill.
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: Bellot and won six titles, so he's that that counts
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: for something. But I think that's get more time, right,
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: But but what is it? And I think I about
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: some questions here on the email too of you know,
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: what is what is reasonable? You know, I don't think
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: anybody was ready to fire Bill and twenty I mean,
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: certainly some people were, you know, but but it's just
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: what as soon as he left where he's out, I
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: left you off.
• 47:08
  Speaker 12: At this point, he said, I don't care what you're doing.
• 47:11
  Speaker 14: Man.
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I hear you.
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: I hear you.
• 47:13
  Speaker 5: That's a that's a fair way of looking at it.
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, thanks will I appreciate it.
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: I wont to know why he was so happy yesterday?
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: What was so good that happened yesterday? I was like,
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: not as good as yesterday? He said, yeah, I don't know.
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: It wasn't even a show day. I hope good could
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: have been. I got some emails to somebody, some strains
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: from me. Again. Well no, I well maybe I should
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: read this one right now, just real quick, because Andy
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: wrote in about Willem and you know, well it's a
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: little listener on listener debate here. I like so Andy,
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: and Cleveland wrote in, uh, hopefully Willim tuned back in.
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: He said, what in the world is going on with Willim?
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: And he calls him Willem and Philim Willhem and film's
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: audio guy sounds like he's calling from inside of a
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: water tower on speaker.
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: If he's down, William is down. He's always That's why
• 47:56
  Speaker 5: he sounds like that.
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: Well, he said, I appreciate the can be regular callers
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: and contribute to the show, but can we take up
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: a collection to get him some decent headphones with a mic? So, uh,
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: headphones with a mic? He's calling it?
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you want us to get him?
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: At a little blue yetti micy marine corps, get on that.
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: I want all of our regular calls a.
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: Microphone. Send him one of those those briefcases that you
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: give me when I go on the on the road.
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: Or it's way too big.
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta check this. Yeah, it's very it's heavy,
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: and I'm weak.
• 48:28
  Speaker 5: I know, Evan, and hours have to go if not,
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: you know, so make sure you guys, I don't want
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: to hold I mean, we're riding with the PP and
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: the Duce, but I think we can have better nicknames
• 48:39
  Speaker 5: than that. A PP of the all of the focusroops
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: love it, Evan. I mean, you know it's no Catch twenty.
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: Two, which coming up at two o'clock stay tuned.
• 48:50
  Speaker 5: Yes, absolutely, So why don't we reset, take a little
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: bit of a break and let them.
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: So, I'm gonna grab the I'm just gonna grab one
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: call here before we break, because Dominic's been holding on
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: for a moment and I just want to grab them. Hey, Dominique,
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: what's going on?
• 49:04
  Speaker 12: Hey, what's up? Hopefully what Mike is good?
• 49:06
  Speaker 9: Yeah?
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: Perfect? Yeah?
• 49:07
  Speaker 15: You go.
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: In college?
• 49:10
  Speaker 12: Yeah, well come on.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: But yeah.
• 49:13
  Speaker 12: So I just thoughts on everything with the drafting going on,
• 49:17
  Speaker 12: and more of a discussion for y'all is I'm looking
• 49:19
  Speaker 12: back at the twenty twenty three draft and I'm thinking,
• 49:22
  Speaker 12: you know, I know, there's been a lot of talk
• 49:24
  Speaker 12: about folks wanting, you know, wide receiver on that end,
• 49:26
  Speaker 12: but thinking about even with Christian Gonzalez, there was a
• 49:29
  Speaker 12: whole worry about Johnson Jones if he leaves, who the
• 49:31
  Speaker 12: heck is going to be a number one corner where
• 49:33
  Speaker 12: we tell that position? That was my worry, even the
• 49:35
  Speaker 12: same with Devin mccordy. So with the first three takes,
• 49:38
  Speaker 12: I've been very happy with that, addressing with a lot
• 49:39
  Speaker 12: of needs or potential needs that will have in the
• 49:41
  Speaker 12: next couple of years or so, and even going back
• 49:43
  Speaker 12: to the wide receiver thing, it's kind of like, you know,
• 49:46
  Speaker 12: I know folks are mad and upset, but I look
• 49:48
  Speaker 12: at it like this. We had that weird year with Brady.
• 49:50
  Speaker 12: After Brady, with cam Okay, didn't do so well. We
• 49:54
  Speaker 12: had a rookie Mack Jones, went to the playoffs, and
• 49:56
  Speaker 12: we had a good offensive coordinator, right phone year want
• 49:59
  Speaker 12: to do a whole whatever with the offensive shifting between
• 50:01
  Speaker 12: you know, Patricia Judge would have me bad. I kind
• 50:05
  Speaker 12: of want to see before we dive and see like
• 50:07
  Speaker 12: the concerns of austense, even though they are legit concerns
• 50:09
  Speaker 12: in the offense, the ability with Bill O'Brien. You have
• 50:12
  Speaker 12: another player in Jujusvin Sister that I think is talented
• 50:16
  Speaker 12: and can produce at a decent level given a chance.
• 50:18
  Speaker 12: Schemes well and we sell type one third and who
• 50:20
  Speaker 12: we don't really know what he can't do, but he's
• 50:23
  Speaker 12: still I believe, in my opinion, has a high seiling.
• 50:25
  Speaker 12: So with that being said, I'm okay with the fact
• 50:27
  Speaker 12: that we haven't gone like so high per receiver, especially
• 50:30
  Speaker 12: for getting someone like Kyshambodie, who if he pans out,
• 50:33
  Speaker 12: could be excellent, or you know, the Mario Douglas who
• 50:36
  Speaker 12: you know that coaching staff knows better than you know
• 50:38
  Speaker 12: probably interview us to in terms of his speed, his
• 50:40
  Speaker 12: athletic profile and whatnot. So I'm wonder if you're feeling
• 50:43
  Speaker 12: the same way, Like, I'm more concerned about the ability.
• 50:45
  Speaker 12: I want to see what Mack can do with what
• 50:47
  Speaker 12: he has if you believe another receiver is the thing
• 50:50
  Speaker 12: that makes him jump to that at leite, you know,
• 50:52
  Speaker 12: top fifteen whatever ten quarterback level, sir. But that's the
• 50:56
  Speaker 12: least how I'm feeling. That's kind of what I want
• 50:57
  Speaker 12: to gauge first, and that's going through training cramp, the
• 51:00
  Speaker 12: early parts of the season and so on and so forth.
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think.
• 51:03
  Speaker 7: You make a pretty good point because I think if
• 51:04
  Speaker 7: you look at us this time last year, we're looking
• 51:07
  Speaker 7: at this receiving core. On paper, it looks a lot
• 51:10
  Speaker 7: the same as this year. You don't have Nelson Aguilar,
• 51:12
  Speaker 7: But like our narratives last year is we're way more
• 51:14
  Speaker 7: worried about the defense on this show.
• 51:16
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 51:16
  Speaker 7: I was, And this was before all the coordinator drama.
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: Paul Paul's always read.
• 51:24
  Speaker 5: Specific position, so I was I always have fair enough.
• 51:28
  Speaker 7: But it was just a totally different conversation we were
• 51:31
  Speaker 7: having before training camp and then the coordinator stuff played out.
• 51:34
  Speaker 7: It was so dysfunctional and it's like, oh my god,
• 51:37
  Speaker 7: how could we even have had these opinions?
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right, I'm more worried about honestly at this point,
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: Like I hear all the look I'm not the one
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: to say I don't believe in receivers all of a sudden, right,
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: Like I hear all that, But I'm more worried about
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: the tackles, to be honest with you, because me too,
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: I look at mac Jones, and I know even last
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: year when it was as dysfunctional and horrible as it
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: was on offense, from clean pockets, he graded out extremely well,
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: like high passer ratings, high PFF grades. If you're into that,
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: it's always with him, it's always under pressure. Like he's
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: not a mobile guy, he's not an elusive guy, and
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: he doesn't throw the ball well while under pressure. So
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: if you can keep him clean, he can make all
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: the throws and he can run your offense and do
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: all those types of things. But if you can't, and
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: I think they're banking on a lot of coaching like
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: Adrian Klem and the just sophistication of the entire system
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: up front being cleaner because the talent I'm not necessarily
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: sure is significantly better on the line, right.
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, My biggest fear, the reason I agree with the
• 52:40
  Speaker 5: tackle is.
• 52:41
  Speaker 16: Yeah.
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: Do I think they could use an upgrade of talent
• 52:44
  Speaker 5: in the pass catches, I absolutely do, But I think
• 52:47
  Speaker 5: in this particular draft class it wasn't really conducive to
• 52:51
  Speaker 5: devoting a lot of resources to it. Now, I think
• 52:55
  Speaker 5: they could have gone earlier. And you guys talked about
• 52:57
  Speaker 5: this a lot on Saturday. There were guys that were
• 53:00
  Speaker 5: worth developing Charlie Jones's and you know, Josh Downs's of
• 53:04
  Speaker 5: the world that they passed on. Okay, fine, I don't
• 53:07
  Speaker 5: think any of those guys was going to step in,
• 53:09
  Speaker 5: you know, in twenty twenty three if the number or significant.
• 53:12
  Speaker 5: You know, addition, I think what they have as pass
• 53:15
  Speaker 5: catchers is good enough. And I'm kind of echoing Dominique's
• 53:20
  Speaker 5: feel like, Okay, so let's see how it looks with
• 53:25
  Speaker 5: a real offensive coordinator, and Evan brings up a good point,
• 53:28
  Speaker 5: a real offensive line coach.
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, to see if you can well that that was going.
• 53:32
  Speaker 5: To look more like you did as a rookie before
• 53:34
  Speaker 5: you guys go.
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: That was just the one point I was going to
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: bring out because I remember you talking about talking to
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: the offensive lineman and them saying that they didn't have
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: the ability to make the same calls, and they did so.
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: I just I wonder if maybe some part of that
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: struggle with Mac was baked into just not having the
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: answers all the time that he needed to have. Maybe
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: they're and.
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: That's his strength as a player, is to be able
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: to get to the line of scrimmage, survey what the
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: defense is showing you pre snap, and get everybody pointed
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: in the right direction, make some checks, make some changes
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: to the protection like those are the things that That's
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: what drew them to him to an extent, was between
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: the ears, what he was capable of doing at the
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: line of scrimmage as a field general, and last year
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: they just kind of stripped all of that away from him.
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: So if they can get back to playing to his strengths,
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: not only as a passer, but also just the cerebralness
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: of his ability to read the field, I think that
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: they're going to be better upfront. But I do worry
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: still about the one on one match. At the end
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: of the day, it's still my guy against your guy
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: to an extent in football always so at the end
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: of the day, is Riley Reef can hold up at
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: right tackle When they got Von Miller coming off one
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: side and Greg Russo coming off the other side against
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: Buffalo or whatever the matchup is. Are they going to
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: be able to hold up against Bradley Chubb and Jalen
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: Phillips when they play Miami. I don't know. Those are
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: the big concerns that I have.
• 54:51
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  Speaker 24: Hey you guys, hope you're doing well?
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  Speaker 4: Thank you.
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  Speaker 24: So the one thing, uh I'll find an issue with
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  Speaker 24: is that people are complaining about not drafting a wide
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  Speaker 24: receiver early in the draft.
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  Speaker 15: Uh.
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  Speaker 24: I think personally there was no superstar wide receiver jumping
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  Speaker 24: out at us. Second of all, I don't find you know,
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  Speaker 24: this team needs another rookie that's just going to learn
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  Speaker 24: the offense. Yeah, and I mean, if anything, this offense
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  Speaker 24: needs a veteran proved wide receiver. Obviously like a Copkins
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  Speaker 24: and probably Judy are not able to be tradable, but
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  Speaker 24: that's the kind of receiver that team needs. Not enough,
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  Speaker 24: you know, Josh Booty are booties. I forget us first name.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sorry the great.
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  Speaker 24: Honestly, I just don't see needing a draft pick early
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  Speaker 24: in the draft for wide receiver.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, thanks for the call, and I mean it's
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  Speaker 4: you know, it's something we kind of talked about when
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 4: we got into Day two, which was just was there
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: that guy? I mean, if they gotten Flowers, it's all
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 4: about that. Like to me, if name on the claim.
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  Speaker 5: If it was a regular draft class, I think this
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 5: wide receiver class had a bunch of secondary guys at
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 5: the top of it. Now, I think there were a
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 5: lot of good receivers. I don't think there were any
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 5: great ones. And if there was, the way it's been
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 5: like in recent years, I would have been much more
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 5: open to using wide receiver at fourteen. Now, I just
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  Speaker 5: I don't think.
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  Speaker 4: I don't. I don't think Smith.
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  Speaker 5: And Jigba or Zay Flowers was worthy of that. Some
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 5: people do, and that's fine because they haven't played it
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  Speaker 5: down yet. We'll see who ends up being right. But
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 5: I don't kill them for that.
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  Speaker 4: No, And Tise, you love you love Gonzalez as much
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  Speaker 4: as everybody, and it's like, I mean, I look at
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 4: it the same way. It's just the opposite side of
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  Speaker 4: the ball. Like you say, they're missing that number one
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 4: threat on the offense. Well, I'd say they're missing that
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 4: number one cover guy on the defense. And that's what
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 4: you had the opportunity to get now. And to our
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 4: our our previous caller who said, it's you know, that
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 4: last piece that you put in, I mean, I don't
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  Speaker 4: know about that. I'm hoping one of these two guys emerged,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 4: like one of these two six rounders comes out and
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 4: you know, maybe just chips in with it. It doesn't
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 4: have to be a lot. It could be like Jacoby Myers,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 4: but it's hard to it's hard to wish because you
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 4: love Gonzalez right.
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  Speaker 9: Or due for a late round guy to blow up.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 9: I don't think that's happened here for a while. But
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  Speaker 9: I mean last year, I mean you just I think,
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  Speaker 9: Hi tis twenty twenty, but you had to pick last year,
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  Speaker 9: you could have got one of those guys. I don't
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 9: think any of the receivers this year were that much better.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 4: No, I mean justin Jefferson go like twenty you know
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 4: and whatever it was twenty nineteen, twenty twenty. So I mean,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 4: you know that's the drafts.
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  Speaker 9: You're talking about Paul where it's well, just.
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  Speaker 4: In Sarah Wilson, there's five of them that you're like,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 4: I'd be pretty happy with any of them.
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  Speaker 5: I would have taken one of those guys at fourteen
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 5: if they were available, you know, from last year now,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 5: I just don't think it was the same caliber of class.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 4: I think that's the draft reality to punching you in
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 4: the face is like, I mean, every single person except
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 4: for Paul Credit where credit is due had Josh Downs
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  Speaker 4: is the number one guy on the second tier. So
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: once those receivers went in the first round.
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  Speaker 5: And I didn't hate him or anything, I just wasn't
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 5: as high on it.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 4: But you weren't, so you weren't looking at him as like.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah you did, like Marvin, I think I remember that
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  Speaker 5: from the broadcast.
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  Speaker 4: So there were those guys, you know, kicking around. But
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 4: you know, at the same time, when I think, when
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: you break it down, what intrigued me about Downs was
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 4: what would kind of intrigue me if Booty or Douglas
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 4: were to hit you know, that's the kind of player
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 4: I wanted, So doing it with a six round pick
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 4: and there's not really the pressure. I like how they
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 4: balanced those two.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 9: What's interesting to me is that the guys who went
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 9: late in the first round, Quentin Johnson Addison, that might
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 9: be scary because you got Justin Jefferson and then you
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 9: got Mike Williams and Keenan Allen in la like that
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 9: gives them some veterans tomm under and that's just going
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 9: to free them up so they might have big seasons.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 4: It's it's nice to have that lucky.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 9: Yeah. I just don't think you got that here.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 4: No, no you don't.
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  Speaker 5: And I do think that's a good point because you
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 5: you attached a little like context and nuance to it.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 5: You know, I think a lot of people immediately look
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 5: and I'm not telling you that it's an easy thing
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 5: to do or that it's correct, but a lot of
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 5: people look and they say, well, Justin Jefferson, you could
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 5: have had Justin Jefferson, and if you've done maybe, if
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 5: you've moved up, you could have gotten Jefferson that, yeah,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 5: they could have. And I think he's a great player.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 5: I think you'd be great anywhere, but maybe he wouldn't
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 5: be great here, you know. And you know that's one
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 5: that's one I don't agree with obviously, because I think
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 5: Justin Jefferson is one of at worst one of the
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 5: three best receivers in football. I think guys like that
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 5: are great any anywhere they go. Yeah, but sometimes you know,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 5: so Quentin Johnston, maybe he works because of what you said, tease.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 5: Maybe with with Herbert Layton downs you like to talk about,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 5: with Agalore and two other receivers that are pretty good,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 5: it's not going to be asked to go in there
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 5: and catch ninety balls. He could have a really good
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 5: rookie year and catch like forty, right, you know, but
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 5: maybe with the Patriots he wouldn't be afforded that same
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 5: kind of luxury.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 4: And to that point, I wonder what's going to be available,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 4: you know, if one of those six round guys do
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 4: get a chance, you know, because I do think that
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 4: their their skill sets are a little bit unique. And
• 1:08:32
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• 1:08:35
  Speaker 4: the field as a contested catch kind of guy like,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 4: you know, maybe that helps open up opportunities for some
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 4: of these guys underneath. You know, we have to see
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: I just again, it's there's so many like what if
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 4: Bill O'Brien works out, what if Taekwon Thornton makes a leap.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 4: What if Riley Reef has you know, can squeeze another
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 4: solid year, you know, out of whatever how many years
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 4: he's been playing. You know, it's all those what ifs
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 4: we're playing and generally the more they're going to thread
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 4: the needle.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 5: Generally, if you have the worst, the record will be wrong,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 5: you know, like a lot of people talk about that
• 1:09:05
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  Speaker 5: five in a row?
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  Speaker 11: I'm gonna get to it. We'll get to it.
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  Speaker 13: Paul.
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  Speaker 11: I loved that fight with you and Fred Tuesday.
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  Speaker 4: And I agree with.
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  Speaker 3: Cold Strange.
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• 1:09:46
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  Speaker 11: And I think he's gonna be one reckless regular season
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  Speaker 11: throughout two you know. But I also agree with you
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  Speaker 11: with debt.
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  Speaker 15: But uh, the other.
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  Speaker 11: Caller you had a chance to get and what you
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  Speaker 11: call last year, but he didn't get it, so you
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  Speaker 11: had one, you know, Oh they got from Olga.
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  Speaker 4: State And I'm not gonna lie.
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  Speaker 5: I worry a little bit about that with the tight
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  Speaker 5: ends this year because it seems to me, the better
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 5: a class is in terms of talent, the more at
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 5: the Patriots are to sit that draft out and wait
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 5: for the next one.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 4: They've been doing it with wide receivers for like five years,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 4: like a year off.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 11: Yeah, but they picking wrong one for the last five years. Yeah,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 11: that's the problem. He's picking the wrong one and Clifton
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 11: Johnson's gonna be a monster. You're wait and see. But
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 11: one more things about the defense Verythale, I thue you
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 11: about White. I don't really like him that much, but
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 11: you like.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 25: Him but I don't.
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  Speaker 4: Oh okay.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 5: I was like, you're agreement with me when things that
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  Speaker 5: I don't necessarily agree with, Because my argument with Cole
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 5: Strange wasn't that he's a bust. It's that it's harder
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 5: to tell of an offensive lineman is a bust because
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  Speaker 5: if they play, everybody automatically thinks it's fine. Whereas the
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 5: other positions where you can get statistics, you can readily see.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah you can regulusly, right, but I think you should
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  Speaker 11: have got somes Key on white, you know. And but
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 11: that defense, the secondary, I like what he picked in
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 11: the last two round or the last six round, six rounds,
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 11: the last two I just hope they can contribute besides
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 11: special team.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I wouldn't count on that.
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  Speaker 11: You have fet on't count on it.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, you don't take guys that down,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 5: you know, in the two hundreds that you're expecting to contribute.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 5: Like I mean again, i'd never say never, like there's
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 5: always outliers.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 4: But you know, guys are special teamers in college and right,
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 4: I mean they can run.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 11: But Speed plays for Michigan State. He started on the
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 11: left side.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 5: Speed played his first four years at Georgia and really
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 5: couldn't get on the field, okay, and then he went
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 5: to Michigan State for his last year. Right, I'm not
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 5: that's the one that I'm thinking of. Right, he went
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 5: to Michigan State is last year and he was okay,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah he's okay.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, I saw some fifty was okay, But I think
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  Speaker 11: it was a.
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  Speaker 5: Big difference big ten passing games and SEC passing games.
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  Speaker 11: Yea, it might be.
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  Speaker 10: Well.
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  Speaker 11: Y'all have a good one.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks, appreciate you all your calls. Thank you quick email
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 4: that just popped up. That made me laugh. Sam from
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: Maryland waging and love the show and the draft coverage.
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  Speaker 4: I compiled a few of the best quotes of the draft.
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  Speaker 4: Oh boy, yeah, these were good. Mike, this is one
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  Speaker 4: of mine. Something about kids in suits just bothers me.
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  Speaker 4: It's true. Then then Matisa was like, it's to make
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  Speaker 4: a wish kid out.
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  Speaker 9: Damn it.
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  Speaker 4: Fred, Wait, who did they take? Who was picked? What
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 4: player is going? As you know, classic Fred playing the hits.
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  Speaker 5: You can fill in the blame for any situation in
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  Speaker 5: the first round.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Paul, they're going to trade their third round pick
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  Speaker 4: for Force for seven fourths and have all of the
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  Speaker 4: fourth round. Fred. We don't want to bore people, Paul
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  Speaker 4: too late. Those are a few few highlights from our
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  Speaker 4: from our draft. Paul, why don't you tell that? Why
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 4: don't you tell the audience how how the draft show performed?
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  Speaker 5: We got you'd be able to talk about this a
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 5: little bit too. We got some numbers from our illustrious
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 5: Chris Ferrara, and there they compile the NFL compile some
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 5: numbers off of Draft weekend video. So there are different things.
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  Speaker 5: But the most watched draft show was the Cowboys. Not
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  Speaker 5: surprisingly they own they owned the NFL, and we were
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 5: second behind Dallas. Now, the gap between Dallas and the
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 5: Patriots is about one hundred and fifty thousand, so it
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  Speaker 5: was significant. They had over two hundred thousand like that.
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  Speaker 4: Was well, and we also heard that they might have
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 4: been Now yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Now we're also calling into question, which I like our
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 5: social media team, the whole mail came to our defense.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 5: Evidently Dallas was on for five hours videos and we're
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 5: told that we can only be on for an hour.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 4: Well, they got to get their guy and everyone wants
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 4: to see it.
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  Speaker 5: So if we were on for five hours, that maybe
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 5: we continue to you know, rack up the clicks in
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 5: the beginning of videos and whatnot. But so we want
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 5: to thank The bottom line is Mike gives us an
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 5: opportunity to thank you guys for making sure that we
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 5: finished so high in that ranking, because that means a
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 5: lot to us. It's because there was so many people
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 5: that were interested in not only the Patriots Draft, but
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 5: what we had to say about it, So thank you
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 5: to everybody. See, I don't always criticize no, no.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 4: Especially while Look there's a difference between like the general
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 4: you know, Patriots fan that is just as like you know,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 4: just refuses to believe that they haven't won the Super
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 4: Bowl every year for the last twenty years. And then
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 4: you know our fans who listen to us, you know,
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 4: we get both sides of things, and we have fun
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 4: with it. So we we of course appreciate everybody. That's
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 4: that's what it's all about. Sticking with the emails here,
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 4: and I hope I'm doing a good job on these,
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 4: because a great Josh. I'm gonna wait for Audrey to
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 4: thank you, though, but I'll wait for her. Towagh In Mike,
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 4: I found out after Tuesday show you were born in Rochester,
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 4: New Yorky. It's true. I'm surprised because I've never heard
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 4: anyone admit to being born there. I was learning how
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 4: long you stayed there and what your favorite attraction, So
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 4: I explained it. I mean, I was my parents were
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 4: there for a few years while my dad was working
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 4: at Wilson's Sporting Goods. Wilson yeah, support supplying a lot
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  Speaker 4: of turned into a Audrey uh sort of, of course, of
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  Speaker 4: course he did. But then I moved here, uh to
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 4: wonderful Holliston, Massachusetts. I think I was about one year old,
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 4: so I grew up around here. So I have no
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 4: memory of Rochester or anything like that. But it's just
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 4: it's one of those random things that I have nothing
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  Speaker 4: to do with that, but that is where when like,
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 4: where's your place at birth? That's what I gotta put down.
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  Speaker 9: So but you're you're a mass whole at heart.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, Mike, at least you have stories to tell.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 5: I mean, you could be like me and born in Boston,
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 5: you grew up in Everett, went to college in Boston,
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 5: working in Boston.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 9: High school with with Meredith Gray high school.
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  Speaker 4: Oh I did. Yeah, I should say no, but but
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 4: we should take was that.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 5: I know she fancies herself Pompeo. Now we went to
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 5: high school together. She was a year behind.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 4: I mean, if if if I'm allowing Star Wars questions today,
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 4: which we've gotten none I've yet, and Matisa is way
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 4: in on Grey's Anatomy right now, so our Grays, our
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 4: Grays fans out there, if you if you've got some
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 4: marriage questions.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 5: It's amazing to me that, of all people, tease.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 4: Is so I don't get any he keeps complaints against
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 4: I can't stop, I can't plan't stop, won't stop it
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  Speaker 4: died down.
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  Speaker 9: What's the draft game?
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 10: Throw?
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 9: Because I like my late round picks over the heart surgeries.
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  Speaker 4: So nice. Nice, that's good. Mark from Tennessee love the show.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 4: Really feel the Patriots should have drafted offensive tackle in
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 4: the draft. I'm worried about the longevity of the tackles
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 4: we have on the roster. Also, I'm concerned about max armstrength.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 4: He's not able to put the ball down field with
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 4: much power. He puts a huge arc on the throws
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 4: down the field, giving defenders more time to get in
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 4: position to make the play on the ball.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 9: It's called the touch pass.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he throws a good deep ball in
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 5: that regard, but I would agree with the criticism of it.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 5: It does take a while to get there, and I
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 5: think that we've seen examples of plays that were there
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 5: to be made that maybe the timing wasn't quite on.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 4: But he's got to be on with the offense, and
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 4: I think that's what exposed him a little bit last
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 4: year was just that the offense wasn't coordinated in a
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 4: way that he could go through progressions and take advantage
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 4: of what he does well. And I you know, I think,
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 4: if he can't know this is the throw, I've got
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 4: to make it at this exact moment to get it
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 4: there at the right time. And you know, it's kind
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 4: of like what we saw with Cam Newton when he
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 4: was late to see something and he tried to put
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 4: more juice in it, and it just you can't catch
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 4: up once you missed the window. So I'm hoping it's
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 4: not as much of an issue. But I think, as
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 4: Paul will tell you when we're watching games up in
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 4: the press box and Mac lobs won and well, part
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 4: of that is get there.
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  Speaker 5: Part of that is the depth perception that we deal
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 5: no seriously because I mean that I thought that on
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 5: a lot of different throws that I've seen over the years,
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 5: not just Mac, but you know, like I think back
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 5: to the playoff game in Buffalo. I mean, I know
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 5: a lot of people just you know, everybody just we'll
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 5: take a lot of touchdowns on like seven drives.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they did, they did.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 5: They also had a chance to score when they had
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 5: the ball and didn't like the first I don't know
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 5: five times they had it, and the first drive of
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 5: that game was actually probably the best driver of the
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 5: whole night. And they moved the ball down into scoring
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 5: territory and they dialed up a play that was there
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 5: and the receiver was open, and the deep ball that
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 5: mac threw took a little too long to get there
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 5: and was thrown in the wrong side. It was a
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 5: little short and it got picked off, remember, unfortunately by
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 5: one of the safeties, because they're the same to me, Jordan,
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 5: it was one of them. And evidently it was the
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 5: greatest play in the history of safety play because that's
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 5: everybody has completely absolved the quarterback of any responsibility for
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 5: that play.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 4: Well, Evan puts some on Agla for not going up
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 4: for that, I think.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 5: For not doing much to break it up, but the
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 5: fact that it wasn't a touchdown is one hundred percent
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 5: on the quarterback.
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  Speaker 9: I think the biggest issue is that you watch Macla.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 9: I think Max fine, like, could be worse, could be better.
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  Speaker 4: But sure, that's exactly how I feel about.
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  Speaker 9: It's fine, he gets the job done, but then you
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 9: get to like, you know, the Monday night game, the
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 9: Sunday night game, and you're watching mahomes Josh Allen, and
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 9: like that's a different level arm strength and there's just
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 9: so much more speed on the ball.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 5: So and I knew, I knew Evan was leaving when
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 5: when him and Alex had to go in and do
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 5: the interviews. But like, you know, and that was part
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 5: of what I would I would clap back with. And
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 5: you know, his numbers were actually pretty good, good when
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 5: when he was protected. I'd just like to like to
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 5: see the quarterback whose numbers are bad when protected. I
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  Speaker 5: don't think there are any, you know, I think that
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 5: most guys, if they're given the time and they're in
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 5: the NFL, they gotta find ways to complete passes. I
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 5: think the ones that separate themselves are the ones that
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 5: can do it quickly and the ones that can do
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 5: it off platform.
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  Speaker 4: I think two. The interesting thing for me that I
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 4: always hate, I hate bringing up Brady with these kind
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 4: of things, but just when a game is going one way,
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 4: and you know, I just I think the big thing
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 4: with the Mac offense of the last couple of years
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 4: is just they struggle to flip the switch in a
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 4: game and if it starts off bad, it kind of
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 4: stays bad, you know. I mean, I think last year
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 4: with Minnesota, you got maybe a little bit of them,
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 4: like it wasn't great, but then they kind of picked
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 4: it up and started playing well. I just feel a
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 4: lot with this team. You get what you get when
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 4: with them, like what you see out of the shoot
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 4: against the bat they come out there looking feeling good
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 4: against the bad team. And I agree with that, you know.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 5: I think, especially when they start bad, it doesn't generally
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 5: turn around. Now that Minnesota game was the opposite. They
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 5: started good and then finished bad. They couldn't do anything
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 5: in the fourth quarter. But for the most part, I
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 5: would agree with you. I've seen them have, you know,
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 5: not much success in the first quarter of games, and
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 5: it doesn't generally just magically turn around. And hopefully with
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 5: the coaching change, we won't see as much of that,
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 5: see a little bit more consistency with production.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 4: Well, SPI is weighing in here via email Happy fourth.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 4: I appreciate that, he said, Hey, matis amazing episode when
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 4: Joe met her mom, right, I don't know what that means.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 4: Speed speed speed right in a deep right there, he said. Anyway,
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 4: if MLB wears a Maglio jersey during the pitch, it
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 4: will be the height of hypocrisy. And I hope you
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 4: call her out because oh that's a good point. Not
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 4: a jersey, But I would allow the exception because don't
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 4: you have to wear like to do that?
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 5: Wouldn't that sort of be something they give you.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 4: She can't go out like all glammed up like meg
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 4: moa rant like in her.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 5: Wwe Oh they can't do that. I can't throw it that.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 5: You make a wrong move and all of a sudden
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 5: it's Janet Jackson.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: He got to just keep smelling it now.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 4: I miss Megan. I was excited for though. That's that's
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 4: that's Cody, Cody and Indiana ways in. Hey, guys, I
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 4: have an over under for Paul. What are the chances
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 4: of getting a Pats from the Past featuring none other
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 4: than Tom Brady over under? Twenty five percent? Just want
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 4: to that series is awesome and you guys do a
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 4: great job of it.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 5: I'll take the under, but that doesn't mean what we
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 5: won't try.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like he you know what, that might be a
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 4: life taping.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 5: Well, here's the thing is my guess is in the
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 5: coming years, we're going to have Tom Brady here on
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 5: I would say multiple occasions to honor him, and I
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 5: would never say never if we can get him, just
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 5: you know, he's Who's who's honored Tom Brady? Who's honor?
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 4: Got it it? Your family's on it all right? Every
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 4: now and then it's some nonsense.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 5: You have to apologize, you up, you have to apologize
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 5: to me for that because I didn't get it immediately.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 4: That's on me. That's honor, bro. That wasn't on you.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 4: Mand was on mere would have right now.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 5: But who's honor?
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 4: I was.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 5: I was playing the role of a straight man in
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 5: that one. Excuse me, Tom, but he's gonna be here.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 5: And I would say, there's always when you have the
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 5: guy already here, there's always a chance. Now, I would
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 5: say less than twenty five percent, because I'm not sure
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 5: that's something that's on his radar. Like to sit down
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 5: for a half hour forty five minutes with Matt Smith.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, I'm sure it would be good.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 4: I don't know how how really good it would be, Like,
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 4: I mean, he seems kind of guarded. Maybe it could
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 4: be good, But I'm gonna say, now, why not get
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 4: very if you could get Rabel, you know, at some.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 5: Point absolutely try to get him. And we have a
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 5: couple in the works that we're trying to get. I'm
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 5: not going to say the names in case they don't
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 5: end up coming to fruition, but there should be a
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 5: couple at least one in the near future, like within
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 5: the next couple of weeks.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 4: Like Mike Cloud, maybe getting those deep this is good.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 4: I got Actually I had a question for you, maybe
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 4: I can do it on the air to tease. So
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 4: gonna try to do a two thousand and three podcasts
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 4: like I did for two thousand and one, and I was,
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 4: you know, trying to build the roster of people to interview,
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 4: and Mike Cloud just popped up as a name to
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 4: me of like, who would be kind of an interesting
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 4: perspective of a guy who just kind of was here
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 4: for one year. It didn't really you know, was somehow
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 4: involved in it. But I see game. I don't know
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 4: if that's any Tennessee. Yeah, I mean he had a
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 4: couple like I think he had like five or six
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 4: touchdowns during the year. I don't know if there are
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 4: players you think from two thousand and three you'd really
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 4: like to hear from from that two thousand and three
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 4: oh four, that that that was what I was kind
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 4: of looking. I mean, Copin is an interesting one because
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 4: he was a rookie, you know, kind of coming in
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 4: but teeing that up a little bit.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 16: Uh.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 4: And if you guys have ideas, please please send them
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 4: my way. I got to read this one though. Chris
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 4: from New Hampshire weighing in about our favorite restaurant teas
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 4: are your Josey Mikes guy? How big are you? You're
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 4: not as big as you got me onto it. Now
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 4: you have the King of Jersey Mike's re entering the
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 4: student cut that meat. Y'all have convinced me to give
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 4: Jersey Mikes a second chance went years ago, and oh boy,
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 4: it was awful. I've just finished eating the super Sub
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 4: Mike's way. Good for you taken on a super sub
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 4: and will admit I'm rather pleased. I'm planning on trying
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 4: the big Kahuna next. Does anyone have a must try recommendation? Oh?
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 5: Is the super sub specific sub?
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 4: I think you're right. Originally just took that as I
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 4: was thinking of everyone. I don't know what I'm not,
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 4: but I think super side all the meats. Why are
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 4: we asking questions, what a wondering what is the Super
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 4: Football film? And it is.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: I believe it's the one that has like the seven
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: different types of meats or whatever it is that they
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 3: have on the on the on the menu, right, you know,
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 3: I cam and beat roast, beef and turkey, and I
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 3: believe that one I think is like it's a warm
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 3: I think it's a chicken or cheese, steak, syriaki. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 3: it's something. It's it's a it's a grilled sub. It's
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 3: not a it's not a cold.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 9: Take a steak and cheese, hot peppers. Keep a simple the.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 5: Chipotle steak and cheese. That's really really good.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 9: If I'm going that direct, I'm not a cold sandwich. Guys.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 5: Well, I generally go with the thirteen. But that's just
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 5: you know, straight straight Italian.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 4: All Right, I finally got a Star Wars question, and
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 4: I'm Paul, You're just gonna have to humor us here
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 4: for a second, and I'm gonna I'm like, I'm a
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 4: same player. I can play along. I love Matt Morela
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 4: to weigh in on this too, so Matt, listen up,
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 4: hey gang. Earlier this week I went to see Return
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 4: of the Jedi in the theaters for the fortieth anniversary
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 4: of episode six. I'll ask a Star Wars question. Thank you, Eric,
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 4: what's your favorite Star Wars movie? And why there?
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 9: You go?
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 4: Pretty easy? Maybe a basic candor, but mine is episode five.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 4: Just love seeing Vader vers Luke. May the fourth be
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 4: with you and go Pats Evan.
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  Speaker 3: I have an opinion about how they labeled the episodes. Perfect, Okay,
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 3: it's one through three and everything else, Like, did I
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 3: understand the diehard Star Wars fans or such? I shouldn't
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 3: say that I don't know what the diami and everything else. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: there's no there's.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 4: Because that's Morell's tape. There's no.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 3: There's no like four five six is not four five six,
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 3: four five six is one two three? All right, But
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 3: the pre quills and the New ones don't don't count. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: that's that's my my.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 5: You think that's strongly against them. They don't even count.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 3: Yes, I they're good, Marilla.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 4: You're about to get choked out by a former marine.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: There's there, there's former marines.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 3: There are. There are good qualities about the prequels and
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 3: the New Ones, but the original trilogy is the original
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 3: trilogy right like there there's no there's no touch in
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 3: the originals. That's that's all I'm saying. That's that's coming
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 3: from somebody that is too young to have seen them,
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 3: like when they originally came out, too, And I'm telling
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 3: you that.
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  Speaker 9: What was that?
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 5: Like I told you I saw Star Wars when it
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 5: originally came out in in the.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 9: I'm an Empire starkes back Guy Empires. The thing is like,
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 9: like I was so young because my grandparents had the VHS,
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 9: so that's like what I watched growing up. But I
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 9: remember seeing the special edition Attack of the Clones in
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 9: theaters and I loved it. But now when I look
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 9: back on.
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  Speaker 4: Matt anything to say, he's just he's bright red, he looks.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: Fantom Menace is my favorite Star Wars. No, it's not,
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: absolutely is It's awesome.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 3: The dialogue is your favorite Star Wars movie?
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: Double just really like rand Force uses.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 9: Epic, I love. I loved Force Awakens until the others
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 9: came out. Now I don't like anymore.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 4: So I'm gonna I'm gonna handle those movies. Because c G.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: I was new and agree.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 3: I was a product Marine on this. Phantom Menace was
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 3: the first Star Wars that my generation got to see
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 3: in theaters and and do that whole thing with so
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 3: that I, as a kid, I probably watched Phantom Menace
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 3: a hundred times because what did I know about the
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 3: the you know, the quality of the movie, his lightsabers,
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 3: his gun fights, there's you know, the flying around and
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 3: things like how what more could you as a as
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 3: an eight year old kid? What more could you possibly want?
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 9: The best best movie poster ever is probably that way.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 4: There were there was so much hype. I'm Empire. I
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 4: had a record of Empire that I used to just
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 4: listen to, so that whole movie is burning in my brain.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 4: I also just shout out Rogue one and the whole
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 4: Mando thing, like I just think that that stuff has
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 4: been amazing and or that was great.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: Too, and the Duel of the Fates the best soundtrack.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 4: So I got to take on this. I knew this
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 4: was gonna come up with your son. I knew this
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 4: was gonna come up. I knew this was gonna come up.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 4: And and I think the reason you can't take that
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 4: away from Matt is because and and for you guys
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 4: is that you saw it as kids. So that was
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 4: like so at the time, you weren't like judging a
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 4: movie from that, so it's was a favorite. There's plenty
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 4: of movies I watched as a kid that were are
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 4: terrible now, but I would just say like I was
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 4: like a college senior when Phantom Menace came out, and
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 4: I'm big Star Wars NERD was so excited. I bought
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 4: like the soundtrack. I'm listening to Duel of the Fates.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, this is gonna be so awesome. And
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 4: then you know, it's just like right as I'm graduating
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 4: from college. We we actually had like one of the
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 4: final nights at Holy Cross. Everybody dressed up, so we went,
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 4: Me and all my buddies all as all the Star Wars.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 4: We put a keg on rollerblades with duct tape and
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 4: rolled the keg in is R two D two. That's
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 4: how like excited we all were. And then I went
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 4: and I saw it and I was like, what.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 3: It was just amazing, Like talking to two people, you know,
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 3: my age and with marine and stuff like our our
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 3: view of Phantom Menace is so much different than people
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 3: that were a little bit older than us when it
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 3: came out, and that I think is is really interesting.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 3: I love Empire. The first like hour of Return of
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 3: the Jedi, though, is is fantastic in my mind. I
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 3: think that was the first real introduction to like you know,
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 3: oh sorry I was I was too young for that, micuh,
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 3: but the first that like Luke is like a full
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 3: on Jedi at that point, right, so he's you know,
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 3: when he takes down the job of the hut. That
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 3: that right there was like my iconic scene as a kid,
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 3: just remembering him, you know, do the flip and the
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 3: lightsaber and just go on as.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, we better get off of this before
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 4: we lose.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 5: That was fantastic, not at all, I will say this.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 5: You know, the Phantom Menace when it came out, it
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 5: was a little bit before I started here, And uh, Fred,
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 5: who is I think Matt, You're probably the only one
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 5: that would blow Fred away in terms of your just
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 5: fandom for Star Wars. He declared her the day off
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 5: for the entire department. He had the intern at the
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 5: time go stand it because this was before like you know,
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 5: all the the onset of all the online and phones
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 5: and all that stuff. So he had an intern go
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 5: and stand in line and get tickets for everybody, and
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 5: it was required that they all went, and they all went.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 5: You know, Brian Morey was still here. I'm guessing Mike
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 5: Reese was still here. You know, some of the people
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 5: behind the scenes in production and design, they all went
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 5: to Phantom Menace because Fred declared it a requirement.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 17: Had we not been on year for the draft, we
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 17: all would have been all at Patriot Place watching Return
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 17: of the Jedi.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 3: I would have gone, we all.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 2: You would have been there too. I would drag you.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, you wouldn't have been. Yeah, I
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 4: gotta I gotta agree with Christopher Colfax, hero who writes
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 4: and he says, my personal favorite is Revenge of the Sith,
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 4: which I for me is the only you know that's okay?
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 4: That one's pretty good. Lightsaber battle choreography is incredible in
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 4: the prequels, particularly number three. However, more importantly, Lord of
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 4: the Rings is better.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 3: You you get out of here right, absolutely, not, oh
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 3: my goodness, but Revenge of the Sith. My cousin he's eighteen,
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 3: and he's really into Star Wars more than new stuff
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 3: obviously than than the old stuff. But that's the one
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 3: movie that my aunt is like, I'll watch that one
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 3: with him like that one's actually like pretty pretty good,
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 3: but he u he loves you know, Kylo Wren and
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 3: like all the new villains and he's a villains.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 4: I just want to go up to a nd No,
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 4: it's terrible.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 3: Stop there. So yeah, he went to not terrible. He
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 3: went to Star Wars in Disney and he made a
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 3: lightsaber at the lightsaber thing and he made a red
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 3: lightsaber and I couldn't go because during the season and
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 3: he comes home with it and I'm like checking it out.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 3: I'm like, this thing is so super cool and I'm
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 3: and I and I was like, oh, of course it's red,
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 3: like because he's Darth Vader and Kylo are his two favorites.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 3: And uh my, my parents and my aunt are like wait,
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 3: like it's like the villains. It's red because he likes
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 3: evil people. Like this is not good. And I was like,
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 3: let the kid live. I like whatever he wants.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 4: I've been to the Disneyland make your Own Lightsaber factory
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 4: and it's like super cool. I was like I was
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 4: near now when I was six years old again, because
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 4: I grew up with like a flashlight. You know, you're
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 4: making the noise. You never really actually have now they
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 4: have like these real ones that that look real all right.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 3: The Disney wants are Lightsaber the one he has.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 5: You guys, when someone writes in and gives me a
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 5: quiz on past Patriots numbers, you guys, don't storm off
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 5: on a set.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 4: No, I just I just in awe of you of
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 4: your knowledge. But we will just jump back to the
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 4: funds real quick, because Christian's been hanging on. Hey, Christian,
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 4: how a chrish jhan.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 9: Oh lost him?
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 4: No, nothing's still there, man, he probably he probably zoned
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 4: out about the Star Wars up. Let's keep it going though, Patty, Patty.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 10: Hey, what's going on?
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 25: Guys?
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 4: Star Wars? Get us off it?
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 25: All right, I'll throw a Star Wars opinion out, but
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 25: I wanted to throw it at an opinion I had.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 25: Uh the other night. Might have been the marijuana that
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 25: was making me think of think about this. But you
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 25: know how we always say, like, you know, look at
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 25: what Bill does. Don't don't listen to what he says.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 25: And I think, just from my perspective, I think the
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 25: whole Mac thing got blown out of proportion just because
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 25: I think if it was really that bad, if it
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 25: was really that toxic. I mean, we've seen him bench
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 25: Malcolm Butler in the biggest game of the frigging year.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 25: He knew he had a quarterback that could play sitting
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 25: behind Max. But I think if that was really that
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 25: bad as bad as like it got blow enough to
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 25: be that he would have just started Bailey for like
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 25: three or four of the last games.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 5: But I'll say, what if it wasn't his choice.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 25: Well, maybe he might be right, Paul.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 4: But oh, I don't. I'm not.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 5: I'm just given another side of it. I'm not necessarily
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 5: giving you what my view of that is. But it
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 5: may not have been his choice.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 25: But we've also heard Roberts say that, like he lets.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 4: He loves him the football thing.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 5: But he also has said many times that he loves
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 5: Mac and Bill hasn't.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 25: Before the before I get to my start wars quick
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 25: one at you who was known as the Undertaker?
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 4: Was that? I missed the question?
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 25: What former Patriot player was known as the Undertaker?
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 5: Oh, Vincent Brown, Yes, sir, So I like Phantom Menace.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 25: I was twenty two when it came out. I thought
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 25: it was actually not that bad of a movie. I mean,
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 25: I think, all.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 5: Right, I think it's just one of the greatest calls
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 5: that we've ever had. I mean, he touched on on
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 5: current day, Current Day Patriots with Mac and Bill, Old
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 5: School with Vincent Brown, and now he brings it back
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 5: on topic with Star Wars.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think this is a great Jordan's furnishure.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 4: You get it for free.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 5: Well done, Well done, Patty.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 25: But you know, jar Jar was annoying, and I think
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 25: too many people talking about things getting overblown. I mean,
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 25: if you take Jarjar out of the movie, it's a
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 25: really good movie. And as far as like the News
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 25: sequel series, I thought The Force Awakens was definitely the
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 25: best of the bunch. I think they really missed the
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 25: boat on the last Jedi. You know, that's that's just
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 25: my opinion of And of course this may sound ridiculous,
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 25: like I think Godfather Too is a better movie, but
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 25: Godfather wons my favorite of the series in the same
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 25: sense like the original Star Wars is my favorite movie
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 25: of all time. But I will admit that Empire is
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 25: a better movie. If that makes any sort of sense.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's a fair point.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 4: I think so, yeah, it totally makes sense. Thanks, Patty.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 4: I just don't think you can qualify the first one
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 4: as like being part of the judgment of what's the
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 4: best one, because there wouldn't be any of this without
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 4: that one. It just kind of stands above that.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 5: You know, what if I told you that, what if
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 5: I told you the only one I've put.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 4: At thirty for thirty first, that'd be all right, Paul,
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 4: you got things to do. Although DJ Rhymes chimes in,
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 4: Rogue one is the best Star Wars movie, and I'm
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 4: old enough to say that Keon White is going to
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 4: be a monster, and you guys are the best podcast
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 4: in existence. Thanks for picking me up twice to thrice.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 4: Another great emails a week, another great.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 3: Well that they have very different opinions on the first
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 3: two things, he said, So I'm surprised that.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 4: Evan's so great. Lee Lee chimes in and said, I
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 4: really liked Evan until he said he was eight when
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 4: The Phantom Menace came out. Get off my lawn, Lazare Yeah,
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 4: I say it all the time.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 3: Get I think I might have been even younger. I
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 3: want to say, Phantom Menace is ninety eighty nine.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 4: Seven.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 3: It was just before I started work seven.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 2: That's ten.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Robert Robert in San Diego via Connecticut just chimed
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 4: in and said, the best Star Wars movie is clearly Spaceball.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 4: You've seen space Schwartz. Schwartz is as big as mine.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 3: Rogue one is fantastic, But like, let's not it's not
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 3: the greatest Star Wars movie of all of all. No,
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 3: let's let's relax with that. It's a great it's it's
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 3: the best of the New ones by far.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely dark, and you're like, at a certain point
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 4: in movie, you're like, are they gonna die? Like crazy?
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 4: Really going where?
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 9: I think it's just crazy? They cut out, like what
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 9: an hour of it? Matt, you hear about that?
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a disaster. There were a lot of
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 4: like you know, shots from like them running across it,
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 4: like get shot at It never actually happened. I recut,
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 4: but hey, it all worked out right.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 3: And then the end scene with with Vader and the
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 3: whole thing. I just the movie boilers for fantastic. Like
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 3: Paul hasn't even seen the two and three. He's not
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 3: going to go on to Road one.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 4: I like he saw the original Star Wars the Empires.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 4: He probably had some friends that were excited to go
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 4: see it. He's like, man, good. No, I liked it,
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 4: like I'm drinking, I got girls.
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 5: No, I went with my my grandmother actually took my
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 5: brother and I to see it, and.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 4: We we all like we liked it.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I just I guess maybe I was a little
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 5: older when Empire came out and I was kind of
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 5: not really as interested.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 4: I don't. I'm just it doesn't.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 5: I wish that I had a passion for it, like
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 5: you guys do really for anything. No, I mean, I
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 5: just it's just not my thing, Like Matt, Matt makes
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 5: fun of me all the time. It's the same with
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 5: all the like the comic book, like the superhero movies,
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 5: and you know, I like, what is it twenty is
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 5: it twenty three of them? How many of the like
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 5: the marvel in thirties?
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 4: Like too much time for that.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 5: I've probably seen five of them, you know, maybe and
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 5: I've never seen one that I came out. Oh my god,
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 5: I can't believe I just watching. No, they're entertaining, like
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 5: I enjoy them, it's just not.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 2: I was number twenty three on my shirt.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 4: It's just not my thing. That's That's a lot. And
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 4: and and Reno emails in and says, on this day,
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  Speaker 4: May the fourth belive you. I've got to say, I've
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 4: never seen a single Star Wars movie, and I'm twenty eight,
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 4: so it's not like I'm young. Ca Marie, Matt and
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 4: Deuce and everybody else. Explain why one day I should
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 4: watch them. I'm not gonna say you should watch all them.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 4: Just watch the original Star Wars.
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  Speaker 16: Do it.
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  Speaker 2: You don't appreciate it, I don't watch you watch it
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 2: go somewhere else.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 3: I love that.
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  Speaker 9: I'm saying, if you had the three years of the
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 9: pandemic and you didn't watch it, just don't.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it might not be your thing, but
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 4: I think I don't think anybody's gonna be mad to
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 4: sit through a new Hope and feel like I've burned,
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 4: you know, hours a month. It's an easy watch.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 3: The best thing I can, I guess I can say
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 3: about it is is like I don't know. I was
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 3: obviously very a nerd, as you could probably tell as
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 3: a kid, and that was like living out they lived
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 3: out in the movie. What like you're you would live
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 3: out if you were in space and like you were,
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 3: you know, in that world, right like you could you
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 3: could put yourself in their shoes and be like dang,
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 3: it would be like super cool to like fire around
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 3: the Millennium falcon and like, you know, do all this
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 3: crazy stuff. And that was like what got me into
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 3: it one hundred percent was you know, I had all
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 3: the lightsabers, and you know, you had you did all
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 3: this stuff as a kid, and you just like put
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 3: yourself in that world and you immerse yourself in and
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 3: you're like, oh, yeah, this is I used to.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 4: Take my take my han solo guy and I put
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 4: him in a cup of water and I'd freeze him
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 4: and then I'd wait, you know, like actually seven hours later,
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 4: I'd be like, Okay, he's frozen, and they'd be like right,
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 4: melt hm out.
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  Speaker 5: Now.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not a lot of banker, but kind of
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 4: like lobster.
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 3: I wanted I was more of a luke guy. I'm
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 3: not gonna lie.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 5: What year did Empire Strikes Back come out?
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 4: Eighty eighty? Yes, yeah, I think it was eighty and
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 4: eighty three or.
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 5: Four, because it was seventy I think it was seventy seven, right.
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 4: For the original seven eighty, So like I'm just thinking
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 4: I was nine woint and then twelve.
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 5: Like to me, there's a little bit of a difference there.
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 5: Maybe I just wasn't as interested in going to see
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 5: at that time, you know, because.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 4: You know, well you were probably like into girls and
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 4: boosting cars correctly, well, boosting cars, not so much.
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 3: Completely infetchated was playing with the save you were, Skywalker?
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 4: I bet you were playing with something all right, he's back,
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 4: Christian from la Hey, Christian, thanks for calling back in.
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  Speaker 15: Hey guys, Yeah, made the Fourth be with you.
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  Speaker 13: I remember how important Star Wars was to me because
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 13: in this galaxy far far away, a long long time ago,
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 13: which was the past I was. I was flabbergasted by
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 13: the fact that everyone had British accent. I'm like, how
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 13: the hell was the British empire that far back?
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 4: Eventually you just ruined Star Wars for us.
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 20: Thanks.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 13: Eventually I saw the one and only person of African
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 13: descent like me in the movies, you know, Billy d
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 13: Williams as and let me tell you, I went as
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 13: Lando cal Risian for the next five years. The Fourth,
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 13: guys that I just switched that this year for us,
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 13: for a team I over under is I believe that
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 13: the addition of ju jusus guys, and maybe I'll to
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 13: fly it pan out. I think I can win. I'll
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 13: let you guys take it from there. But I made
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 13: it fun with your guys always.
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 4: Thank you appreciate it, just to share. I use a
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 4: Lando quote a lot that it just comes out of me.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 4: What do we here? Yeah, that's mine.
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 3: I actually really liked uh. I know, Solo is something
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 3: that is a very touchy subject. I think for a
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 3: lot of Star Wars people about it actually being good
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 3: or not. But I love the scenes of like young
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 3: Lando and like getting to understand how they became friends,
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 3: and because he just kind of comes out of nowhere
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 3: in the originals and it's just like, oh, I just
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 3: have this buddy named Lando who can help us. So
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 3: it's just cool to get those types of backstories.
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 2: It was a good movie. You got screwed on its
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 2: release date.
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 3: I agree. I thought Solo was pretty solid as well.
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 5: I saw it in anybody Who's angry about this?
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 3: We went to Jordan's Furniture and Natick and saw it
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 3: in the Imax, me and my cousin. I really enjoyed it. Actually,
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 3: it did.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 5: So how many of the movies morel You're probably not
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 5: a good gauge on this, but how many of the
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 5: Star Wars movies. Did you guys actually physically go to
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 5: a theater to see.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 9: Like everything from Phantom Menesot, Yeah.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 4: I've seen. I've seen all nine of all New two.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 4: I think I've seen all.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 5: Of them because I was thinking, maybe, you know, as
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 5: an excuse for myself, which obviously is not an excuse
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 5: at all, because you guys just blew it up. Then
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 5: you always like you had no other alternative. Well, you
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 5: weren't getting a DVD, you weren't plugging it in your VCR,
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 5: you weren't waiting for it to come out on Netflix,
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 5: like you had to go to the theater to see it.
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well it's been three three you guys all did that.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 4: Well it's been three. Well it's three separate things for
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 4: me because as a kid, I went with my parents
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 4: going to the theater, and I guess they took me
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 4: down Press Strike strikes back a bunch, they said. Then
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 4: I was like in my twenties, like graduating college in
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 4: my twenties, and it was like, you know, we're kind
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 4: of like just everybody was so excited. But then these
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 4: last ones, it's been cool because I have kids and
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 4: you get to like experience it with them and share
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 4: the passion you have for it. I mean, I'm far
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 4: more connected with my kids about Star Wars than the Patriots, Like.
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 5: Well, that's why I feel with my cousin, any of
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 5: the Batman's or Spider Man, any of those that I've seen,
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 5: it's all been taking my kids Batman versus Superman like,
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 5: like I said, every one of them I've gone to see,
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 5: I've never left and said, I can't believe I just
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 5: wasted my money on that.
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 4: That's just how it worked.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 9: What was the one that came out again, I forget
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 9: the name of the Attack of the Clones, Revenge of
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 9: the Revenge of Sith. I saw that at the well
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 9: Fleet drive in. It was a double feature and that
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 9: was first. I was so excited. And then The Longest
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 9: Yard of Adam Sandler was on after and I like
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 9: that way more.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 4: The original Longest Yard. I think if they remade Revenge
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 4: of the sit they could they could really knock it
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 4: out of the park if they really really wanted to
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 4: take it to the next level. Speed speech chiming in
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 4: about and or Yes, and or was was very good.
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 4: It was like an adult Star Wars show, not not
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 4: all the fan service kind of stuff, but but just
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 4: probably good TV show. Alright, I'm trying to find some
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 4: football stuff here.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 5: It's okay, do you have any now you're embracing the
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 5: off season, Yeah, there you go.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 3: If it's about Star Wars.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 4: J Just so you know, a lot of.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 5: The shows are about Star Wars.
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 4: What uh what? What was up with the gaziki?
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 3: Though we talked about Star Wars for the whole time.
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 3: He did mention that he's he's just gonna let it
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 3: come natural, right, He's not He's not. Multiple people he did. Yeah,
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 3: he did say that he's not ruling it out. That
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 3: you know, he's not saying like, oh it's dead. You know,
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to do it. He said he's not
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 3: ruling it out. Somebody did ask him if he compared
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 3: his to Mac Jones as yet and and there was
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 3: that kind of back and forth. But I think that
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 3: the two things that that stood out about him were,
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 3: you know, he's he just looks like an athlete, which
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 3: we knew because he's a great athlete, and he tested
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 3: out of the out of the moon at the Combine
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 3: when he came out of Penn State. But look, just
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 3: looks the part, right, just come in the room, tall,
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 3: athletic build, just exactly what you would expect. And I
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 3: thought it was interesting what he was saying about the
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 3: connections that he has to Bill O'Brien into this offense.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 3: You know, chat O'Shea and some of the Patriot coaches
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 3: that were down there with Brian Flores in Miami, and
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 3: that Bill Brian recruited him to Penn State, didn't actually
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 3: coach him at Penn State because he went to the
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 3: Texans before that, but recruited him out to Penn State.
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 3: So he said he kind of just picked up right
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 3: where they left off back in twenty thirteen on those
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 3: recruiting visits and things like that. So I'm cautiously optimistic that,
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 3: you know, I think we all know that to beat
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 3: out Johnny Smith's production is not really going to take
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 3: a whole lot out of Micah Siki, But I think
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 3: that he's one of those guys that seems like he's
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 3: buying in immediately to the program. The last thing that
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 3: he did say that's probably gonna it's the most impression
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 3: tweets so far from the press conference on my feet,
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 3: and that is that he was roommates with Mac Jones
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 3: for a little while. When he first got to New
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 3: England back in March, she was living in Mac and
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 3: Sophie's basement. So that was the big one. I think
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 3: was as well as some bodying since yeah, he said that,
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 3: you know, the Mexic got a pretty good setup over there.
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 3: We're not gonna say where, We're gonna say over there.
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 4: Pretty good son. Yeah, yeah, now you got a tight
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 4: end living with us.
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 4: I had to go into myself, why is she like,
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know. That's that's my character
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 4: and I'm sticking to it that she's just like it
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 4: is so bizarre. Sorry to go back to Star Wars percent,
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 4: but Speed chimes in and speak, credit to you for
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 4: all the great emails. But he says Jedi is my
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 4: favorite of them all. But adding the CGI to the
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 4: episodes was the national tragedy. They ruined the band in
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 4: Jabba's Palace and the ewok Yupnubs song. I agree one
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 4: hundred percent. Like I just the changes that they went
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 4: back and made it just like takes me.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 3: Well, let me let me ask you guys this uch.
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 5: You guys are missing the visual of the utter disgust
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 5: that Morrell has with every passing email, so price because
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 5: I'll tell.
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 3: You, kid, Evin really wonders this a lot about this.
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 3: What was the difference between jar Jar and the Ewoks,
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 3: because like they're both kind of these like annoying, like
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 3: Disney esque things that like we really don't need.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 5: I don't know it just now, Morel's gonna say, well,
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 5: if you don't know, I'm not.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 9: Gonna you can see the steam coming out of No.
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like I think that I think Jargar
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 3: is worse.
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 2: Don't you writing that they turned the lightsaber blue instead
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 2: of white?
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 3: Really really it's clearly worse. But I'm just saying, like, what.
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 4: Line. That's a great line, Morel, we're on video map
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 4: that supports your.
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 3: I he should be sitting here.
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 5: I mean he's actually you should be sitting Then you
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 5: guys could have your.
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 4: Star Wars fil monsters.
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 5: Little.
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 3: I think Charger gets an unfair shake.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean someone I just lost the email here,
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 4: like Fred, they're not magically deleting. But but somebody mentioned
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 4: that at one point the plan was to have jar
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 4: j RB. It was always the ultimate bad guy with
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 4: villain right.
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 9: It was always jar was.
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 17: Gonna be the ultimate sithe and then they, uh, he
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 17: was racist and.
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 5: Said, so you said that on the show. It was
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 5: he was so hated that they.
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 2: When we're eating the draft the other day, Yeah, yeah,
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 4: I see. There's nothing about him that looks intimidating, like
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 4: you're never like you can't.
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 9: That's a bit of bad call.
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 4: Uh let's jump back to the phone here real quick
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 4: as we come down the home stretch with Jake and Georgia. Hey, Jake,
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 4: thanks for calling in.
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 15: Hey guys, star Wars fan. Unfortunately, I grew up not
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 15: actually watching any of it, but during COVID i was
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 15: Spike TV, I was like, Okay, you know what, I'm
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 15: just gonna watch the entire original trilogy all at once.
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 15: Ended up loving it, and The Force Awakens was coming out,
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 15: and that's that took my fandom to.
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 12: A whole new level.
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 15: I would say that I really despised Star Wars fans.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 2: No one's like I'm heavy at you.
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 14: There's no consensus on like what's good out there for
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 14: Star Wars except and or Rogue one and the original trilogy.
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 14: Everyone can debate in between. But I would say, uh,
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 14: the Force.
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 15: Awakens and like the new Star Wars added some great
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 15: stuff that I really loved, the combat of the mythology
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 15: of like the did I and the prequels ended up
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 15: like adding some nuanced to Star Wars because the original
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 15: with Star Wars, in my opinion, it's okay, but I
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 15: would say we should be talking about Doom, Dune, Dune.
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 4: What are we talking about in the original Star Wars? Okay,
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 4: had all exact decision that one is ready.
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 3: If I was running it, I would have been doing
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 3: the same.
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 4: Thing is a little weird. I mean, I watched the
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 4: David Lynch version of Dune growing up and thinking like,
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 4: maybe you're getting a Star Wars sci fi kind of thing.
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 4: And everybody's like talking about spice and sandworms and that.
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 9: The South Park Spice.
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 4: Version not not not not my cup of tea. But
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 4: but thank you. I mean, we certainly got and a
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 4: lot of people chiming in about about the Star Wars
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 4: and I mean, it's a it's fine, you got so
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 4: much to discuss, but I agree, like there's just so
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 4: many hot takes and if you like it, you like
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 4: it all right, I might as well. I'm not wrapping
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 4: up yet, but I gotta I gotta read this one.
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 4: Trent writes in about soap on a slot, Freddy, we
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 4: might have a product that combines your soap with a
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 4: slot with the ever popular loofa. Picture it if you
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 4: will a loofah with a slot to put a soap in.
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 4: No more wasting soap slivers, stick them in the slot.
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 4: Sick of sick of always adding soap to your loofa
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 4: problem solved with the loof of pocket. So it's will
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  Speaker 4: never run out, million dollars, million dollar idea. You say
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 4: it's all yours in exchange for a PU shirt. So
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 4: there have been a lot of emails about PU shirts,
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 4: and Matt, I think we have to figure out a
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 4: way to distribute those. But I would say I think
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 4: we'd all agree that we'll try to get at training camp.
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 4: If you're able to make it out to training camp,
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 4: I think we'll.
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 5: Be Uh, that's where we got to give you the cannon.
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  Speaker 9: Ready, I'm gonna get the T shirt.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, the tie has been efforting a T shirt
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  Speaker 4: can which are surprisingly.
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• 1:52:05
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna says that's right on the dot.
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 4: But you want to come out, you want Paul to
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 4: shoot you in the face with a T shirt gun. Well,
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  Speaker 4: we'll make it happen. Whatever, whatever you need. We just
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  Speaker 4: signed one today too. We signed a tcher to sign them.
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  Speaker 4: Just be careful how many times you watch it, because
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  Speaker 4: was that? Nothing? What? All right? This one just came up,
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  Speaker 4: but I'm gonna mention it. The five O first Legion.
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  Speaker 4: You guys have heard about that. That's like a a
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 4: whole band of twenty thousand stormtroopers that go and do
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 4: things that might be kind of fun. Get here the
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 4: Patriots game? Perhaps back to football though? Were you just
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  Speaker 4: talking to English?
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  Speaker 9: What was that?
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  Speaker 4: I have no idea what you don't know? I feel
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 4: like Audrey right now is grinding her gears like I'm
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 4: grinding her gears with my performance here down the strength
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 4: at the time in your head. I apologize. Question regarding
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 4: Kendrick from Alex Alex P. I was wondering with Kendrick
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 4: Bourne as a clean slate for last year. And if
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 4: you think Billy Oh gets the best out of him,
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 4: or is he just another guy who could be first
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 4: to go when the opportunity arises. I think he's an
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 4: interesting guy. What do you guys think? It's just how
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 4: he's going to fit in here.
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  Speaker 3: I think that there's two sides to Kendrick Bourne. There's
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 3: the one side of where a lot of this fan
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 3: base thinks that he's Jerry Rice, and that side I
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 3: can't get on board with. But I do think that
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 3: there's a world where Kendrick Bourne emerges as that third
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 3: guy that he was supposed to be last year and
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 3: was towards the end of twenty twenty one. But I
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 3: still think that he's a good number three receiver in
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 3: a good offense. That is a complimentary piece more than
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 3: somebody that you're going to funnel things through. But I'm
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 3: not rolling out Kendrick Bourne getting back to where he was.
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 5: I know that there is nope.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 3: I agree that's where I'm at.
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  Speaker 5: The only thing I would say on the negative side
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 5: with Kendrick Bourne would be if like the two kids
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 5: that they took in the sixth round, Let's we talked
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 5: about a lot of ifs. You know, if this, if
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 5: that you the more, if you have the you know,
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 5: probably the work. But let let's just say those two
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 5: guys are home runs and they both work out. I
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 5: think Kendrick Bourne is a candidate to go in that
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 5: in that scenario, but I can absolutely see him getting
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 5: back to the way he was two years ago and
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 5: less like he was as an.
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 4: Afterthought contract year. Yeah.
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I just think that I think that his
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 5: ceiling is in anywhere near his high is a lot
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 5: of people that follow the Patriots like every game that
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 5: they lost last year is because Kendrick Bourne wasn't actively
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 5: involved in the game plan.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that, Like I have the big Kendrick
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 3: Bourn highlight that I always go back to is the
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 3: touchdown against the Titans where it looked like he was
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 3: probably should have got tackled like six times, but like
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 3: somehow just made it down the sideline. And I think
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 3: that people look at that are like, oh, here's your
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 3: yards after catch. Guy, It's like no, I just I
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 3: just think that that play was kind of flukey.
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah. No, But I will.
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 5: Say that he you know, he can play, like he
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 5: has shown the ability to play in the NFL. I
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 5: just think that people think that, like Evan said, he's
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 5: like showing the ability to be Deebo.
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 4: Samuel in the NFL, and he's not like he's just.
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 3: Kind of that Bengals game last year when they finally
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 3: did let him play and he made those acrobatic catches
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 3: down the field. He can definitely be in a good offense, right,
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 3: a weapon in a good offense. I just don't know
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 3: what ring on the totem pole is he going to be? Right,
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 3: I don't think he's going to be a number one.
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 3: Maybe he's a number two if he really hits the potential,
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 3: but they still don't really necessarily have somebody above him.
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 4: It's like a bigger question for me. I'd love to
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 4: he never could ask Bill O'Brien this question, But you know,
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 4: just what is the process as an offensive coordinator when
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 4: you come into a new system and you say, all right,
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 4: here's the pieces that you have. We've got some draft picks,
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 4: we've got some free agency capital. You know, what do
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 4: you think we need to do with that to complement
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 4: what we have? You know, because I'm sure you arrive
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 4: places and you're like, I don't like this guy. I
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 4: can't use him in my offense, or oh this guy
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 4: can really do more my offense because of reasons xyz.
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 4: You know though, those are the things that what intrigues
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 4: him about the pieces that are in place, and you
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 4: know how much of an impact did he have on GASICKI,
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 4: you know, on Juju like those kind of moves. Was
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 4: that targeted because of Bill O'Brien? Was that just kind
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 4: of a general move of all right, well this is
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 4: you know, these are apple storage is we're going to
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 4: get you know, a little bit of an upgrade on Jacoby,
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 4: or this is a receiving tight end that you know,
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 4: we think can do more than you know, maybe that
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 4: kind of thing. But I just am interested how he
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 4: kind of views this and what he's planning on doing.
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 3: It's also just way wonky like because you don't know
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 3: how long he's going to be here for. I mean,
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 3: you think it might be a couple of years. But
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 3: I think to the point with mac Josh McDaniels is
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 3: his offensive coordinator his rookie season. Then McDaniels leaves and
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 3: goes to the Raiders, and here we are, right, so
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 3: do you go out and sign guys with Bill O'Brien's
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 3: system in mind, and then recognizing that if it goes
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 3: well here for Bill O'Brien, it's probably gonna get a
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 3: head job. Maybe not in the NFL, maybe back in college.
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 3: But at some point in the next two years, I
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 3: would think that somebody's gonna probably look at, oh, well,
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 3: he rebilitated mac Jones, and look at the Patriots offense
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 3: with that, you know, before him and then after him.
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 3: There's a clear difference, and now all of a sudden,
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 3: he's a head coach again.
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 4: Somewhere Yeah, Bill and Vista says, the Big Cahuna is
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 4: a hot chicken and cheese and peppers with jalapenos. Come on, Evan,
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 4: you need to study more.
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 3: I knew it was some sort of hot sandwich and
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 3: said chicken.
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, this is This is a good one from
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 4: David subject Paul Snark lives on. I've noticed that when
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 4: I'm reading a football take online or in real life,
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 4: I can immediately come up with a snarky Paul answer.
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 4: For example, I like him but not at fourteen, and
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 4: I immediately think, so you don't like him. I just
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 4: want to say, thanks for that, Paul. It's true to that.
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 4: Have you does that consistently happen throughout your life? You
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 4: get into people's heads and you.
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 5: Oh, I don't I hope not. I don't know, but
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 5: I don't know the answer to that.
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 4: Lots of Star Wars stuff, lots of PU T shirt
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 4: questions and uh oh and Sam, I'm from Kentucky ways
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 4: and he never got his T shirt.
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 17: Matt Millell, I'm getting through everybody's tea shirts that I
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 17: haven't sent out yet. If you haven't got a T shirt,
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 17: sent me in your address.
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 5: So just to let people know a little bit that, like,
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 5: there was someone in the organization who's recently left, and
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 5: she was heavily involved in the process of distributing uh stuff,
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 5: So we didn't really realize that. I think Mad is
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 5: now double. I'm playing ketchup, playing ketchup.
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 4: She just wasn't there. She's not there anymore, like ketchup.
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 4: All right, we're coming down the stretch here. But this
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 4: was funny. Our junior high school com petering out a
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 4: little bit here, like dang it, dang it, I didn't
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 4: want to. Our junior high school principal, in honor of
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 4: Star Wars rented a movie called Ice Pirates, full of
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 4: sexual innuendo and never forgotten space Hrpie. I just was
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 4: thinking of all the stupid spinoffs that they did, like
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 4: I remember, like Buckeroot Bonds, I like, you know, in
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 4: the eighties, like these movies it's like you're seeing now
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 4: with Marvel, you know, like everything like something's a hit
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 4: and then everybody's got to try to make like a
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 4: b kind of spinoff version, like all those Netflix movies
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 4: that are like the Rocking, like everyone has the rock
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 4: in them somehow everything and you could tell they shot
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 4: it in two different locations with a green screen. But
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 4: there's like these big actors and.
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 3: It's like that, you know, everything on Netflix. If something
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 3: goes viral on Netflix, this is, you know, great new
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 3: TV show and they're right there, there's like six different
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 3: versions of it. Or Netflix is getting the true crime
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 3: like category. Netflix just has ten true crime things every
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 3: week that's new, and it's like I like that one
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 3: true crime thing. But like, let's not get crazy murder shows.
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 4: Murder shows, they're all over the place.
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 5: I mean, there's so many movies that are like remakes
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 5: of old TV shows and it just feels like it's
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 5: nothing new. Feels like you and your ilk Mic, we've
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 5: got lacking the creativity.
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 4: Come on, Mike, no, I know that's and that's part
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 4: of the reason that was, you know, just annoying because
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 4: it's like, oh, this is an established, you know, identity,
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 4: this is an established property, like we can remake this
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 4: instead of you know, you have people trying to come
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 4: up with creative, clever, new ideas like you know, I
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 4: mean that's something like Game of Thrones, where it's like
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 4: this is established, you know what, you know what it is.
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 4: You've got to built in audience. But you know, if
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 4: somebody came in and tried to pitch you that fantasy show,
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 4: you'd be like that, you know much.
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 9: He was doubted and now he's a chosen one and
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 9: he's gonna do well, that's ever show. He's the chosen one.
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 4: Starting the rock all right, that's gonna do it for
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 4: us here on Thursday, Patriots on Filter. We'll continue next week.
• 2:00:16
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• 2:00:19
  Speaker 4: some OTA's probably will get a glimpse at some of
• 2:00:21
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• 2:00:23
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• 2:00:25
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