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Bonus Episode – The Cocaine Enema Was Real and More Rock ‘N’ Roll Truths and Mythbusting, Plus Ken and Barbie Did WHAT On Christmas? · DISGRACELAND

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  Speaker 1: Hey, discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life,
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  Speaker 1: just to touch to get you through. Yeah, me too.
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  Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Disgraceland, the after Party.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, a little thing we
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  Speaker 1: like to call the after party. This is the show
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  Speaker 1: after the show, the party after the party, the bridge
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  Speaker 1: to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to
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  Speaker 1: the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. On
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  Speaker 1: this bonus episode, we are talking about rock and roll myths,
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  Speaker 1: some incredibly salacious ones and calling bs and hell yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we get into this week's subjects of our full episode.
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  Speaker 1: Elvis Presley and Johnny Ace get into a little jay
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  Speaker 1: Z update, talk Taylor and Beyonce. In the bonus section,
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  Speaker 1: discuss your favorite Christmas songs and rock and roll myths
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  Speaker 1: as we of course dive into your voicemails, text and more,
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  Speaker 1: and as always, a whole lot of rosie. All right,
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  Speaker 1: disc goes, Let's get into it. Mama Cass from the
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  Speaker 1: Mamas and the Papas dying from choking on a ham sandwich.
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  Speaker 1: Michael Hutchins from in Excess, dying from auto asphyxiation, Paul
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  Speaker 1: McCartney killed in a car crash, Robert Johnson selling his
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  Speaker 1: soul to the devil. Jim Morrison is the Zodiac killer,
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  Speaker 1: Rod Stewart having to have his stomach pumped, Stevie Nixon
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  Speaker 1: the cocaine enema, Alice Cooper biting the head off a
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  Speaker 1: chicken on stage, Led Zeppelin in the Mudshark thing. I'll
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  Speaker 1: get into the details on that in a minute. Johnny
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  Speaker 1: Ace dying by his own hand playing Russian Roulette on Christmas.
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  Speaker 1: Elvis is still alive. I saw him yesterday down at
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  Speaker 1: the Pigley Wiggly buying scratch tickets and a donnut. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: we've covered in one way or another most of these
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  Speaker 1: myths Disgraceland. I added a couple new ones to keep
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  Speaker 1: it fresh, and I'm bringing them up this week because
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  Speaker 1: obviously we get into the incredible myth of R and
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  Speaker 1: B singer Johnny Ace, who it is widely believed died
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  Speaker 1: from playing Russian Roulette on Christmas Day in nineteen fifty four.
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  Speaker 1: As I just mentioned, I love this story for many reasons,
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  Speaker 1: mainly because though that I went into the research thinking
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  Speaker 1: that this myth was true. Now not to spoil the
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  Speaker 1: episode for those who haven't heard it yet. But well,
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  Speaker 1: that ain't what happened. What actually happened, though, is way
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  Speaker 1: more interesting, and just like the truth that bus all
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  Speaker 1: of these myths that I've mentioned, the myths that get
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  Speaker 1: us into the door at the kernel of truth within
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  Speaker 1: the myth attracts us to these stories. Did Mama Cass
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  Speaker 1: die from eating a ham sandwich? No? But does she
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  Speaker 1: look like she could have? Well, yeah, she kind of does.
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  Speaker 1: And the reality of that sucks. It's wrapped up in
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  Speaker 1: all kinds of judgment and fat shaming and more. But
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  Speaker 1: the truth is that Cass Elliott was a profoundly unhealthy
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  Speaker 1: woman who took way too many drugs and drank way
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  Speaker 1: too much alcohol in it all caught up to her.
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  Speaker 1: But again, she looks like a ham sandwich could have
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  Speaker 1: done her in, and we ask ourselves why that is.
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  Speaker 1: We then dive into her backstory and voila, we gain
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  Speaker 1: entry into an incredible story, a story we didn't know existed,
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  Speaker 1: A story that goes way beyond the trite sixties drug
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  Speaker 1: and alcohol indulgence and into international drug trafficking, into not
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  Speaker 1: only a myth busting story, but a history busting story
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  Speaker 1: of what actually happened the night Mama Cass's best friend
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  Speaker 1: Sharon Tate was murdered by the Manson family. And for me,
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  Speaker 1: all of that because the myth got me into the door.
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  Speaker 1: How Michael Hutchinson die from sexual auto asphyxiation? But look
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  Speaker 1: at that adonis of a man. Yeah, sure, I get it.
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  Speaker 1: He could no longer be satisfied he'd had every beautiful
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  Speaker 1: woman on the planet. Auto asphyxiation makes sense, But nuh suicide? Why?
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  Speaker 1: Well again, the why is super interesting, And now we've
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  Speaker 1: gotten ourselves into another incredible story. Paul McCartney dead in
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  Speaker 1: a car crash. Nope, didn't happen. But the story of
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  Speaker 1: how that ridiculous myth took root and captivated most of
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  Speaker 1: Western culture. That's interesting. Man, Robert Johnson selling his soul
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  Speaker 1: to the devil. I don't think so. I think Robert
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  Speaker 1: Johnson was the devil. Wait, let's see see see, Now
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  Speaker 1: I get your attention. So let's learn more about this
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  Speaker 1: Robert Johnson guy. And there's a disgrace Land episode for that.
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  Speaker 1: For all these stories, actually, well most Jim Morrison is
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  Speaker 1: the Zodiac killer, all right. I started that one. Rod
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  Speaker 1: Stewart in the stomach pump. Okay, this one there's no
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  Speaker 1: episode for. And we're gonna get into this one in
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  Speaker 1: more detail on the next block, when we get into
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  Speaker 1: your voicemails and texts. Stevie Nicks and the Cocaine Enema,
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  Speaker 1: this one I believe. As outrageous as it is, I
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  Speaker 1: believe it. I don't care if it makes me sound
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  Speaker 1: like a looney go read Stevie's denial of this story.
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  Speaker 1: Thin Ti n for Nicks had her rodies blow Pablo's
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  Speaker 1: powder up her backside because her nasal cavity was so
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  Speaker 1: damaged she can no longer snort the drug that she
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  Speaker 1: was highly addicted to. I mean, honestly, this isn't even
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  Speaker 1: that debaucherous. When you measure it on a scale of
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  Speaker 1: one to Caligula, it barely even approaches Diddy. Stevie Nicks
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  Speaker 1: in the Cocaine Enema. I'm believing this one. Also, great
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  Speaker 1: band name, you can have that one. Stevie Nicks in
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  Speaker 1: the cocaine Etema. Alice Cooper biting the head off of
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  Speaker 1: a chicken on stage. Not true and not original. This
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  Speaker 1: is too close to the story of Ozzy Osbourne butting
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  Speaker 1: the head off the dove, which is true. Can't Alice
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  Speaker 1: Cooper get his own goddamn myth? Did the Alice thing?
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  Speaker 1: Now that I think about it, did the Alice thing
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  Speaker 1: come come about first? I think it did. Should I
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  Speaker 1: do an episode on Alice Cooper? This is one of
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  Speaker 1: the myths where the story behind it isn't that compelling
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  Speaker 1: to me. I don't know. Maybe it is. I guess
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  Speaker 1: I'm interested in how Alice Cooper managed his image, maybe
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  Speaker 1: who he was on stage versus who he was off stage.
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  Speaker 1: I think there's an early Zappa connection there, Todd Rundgren,
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  Speaker 1: then golfing with George Burns and finding Jesus. Not very
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  Speaker 1: rock and roll, but interesting, I guess, and I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: there's some stuff there that's going to make me want
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  Speaker 1: to dive further here. Let me know what you guys
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  Speaker 1: think on Alice Cooper and whether or not I should
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  Speaker 1: do an episode on him. Now led Zeppelin in the
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  Speaker 1: mud Shark. This story is so wild that I only
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  Speaker 1: alluded to it in the Zeppelin episode. I guess I'm
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  Speaker 1: more than alluded to it, but I didn't indulge myself
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  Speaker 1: in the storytelling around this incident, as I've done with
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  Speaker 1: some of these other myths because this one is so
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  Speaker 1: messed up, and fuck it. We're going to talk about
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  Speaker 1: the Rod Steward thing later, so I guess I can
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  Speaker 1: say what this one is. For the uninitiated. The story
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  Speaker 1: of led Zeppelin and the mud Shark. Led Zeplin supposedly
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  Speaker 1: used a mud shark to I don't even know how
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  Speaker 1: to say this, to have sex with a woman, to
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  Speaker 1: penetrate a woman a groupie. I'm realizing that the reason
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  Speaker 1: I didn't go full on with the story of the
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  Speaker 1: episode is because I actually believe that it happened, and
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  Speaker 1: the fact that I think it's real makes it actually
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  Speaker 1: offensive to me. Anyways, the story has been amended by
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  Speaker 1: history to claim that it wasn't a shark, that it
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  Speaker 1: wasn't a mud shark, but it was a much smaller fish.
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  Speaker 1: I think the last thing I read was it was
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  Speaker 1: a snapper or something like that, which again only makes
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  Speaker 1: this more believable to me. This one's fucked. The story's disgusting.
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  Speaker 1: Another music myth, jay z is a good guy. How's
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  Speaker 1: that for a transition? Obviously that I'll be back up. Obviously, though,
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  Speaker 1: we're talking about the music myths because that was the
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  Speaker 1: question of the week, which music myths do you guys love?
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  Speaker 1: And I heard a little bit from you guys on
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  Speaker 1: a lot of these topics, and we're going to get
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  Speaker 1: into the more when your voicemails and your text later on,
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  Speaker 1: but I wanted to just touch on how many of
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  Speaker 1: these we've actually covered in Disgracelane and some that we haven't.
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  Speaker 1: And this isn't really my foray. I'm not really into
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  Speaker 1: the myth side of things. I'm more into the true
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  Speaker 1: crime side of things. But i want to know from
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  Speaker 1: you guys what I'm missing here, and if anything, get
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  Speaker 1: in touch and we could talk about it like we are.
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  Speaker 1: The Alice Cooper thing as being a potential episode. But
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  Speaker 1: back to jay Z okay, the music myth of jay
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  Speaker 1: Z being a good guy. I was fifty to fifty
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  Speaker 1: last week on whether or not I thought that jay
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  Speaker 1: Z was guilty of the rape allegations being levied against them.
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  Speaker 1: Those odds have slipped slightly based on last week's events.
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  Speaker 1: I'm now probably forty five fifty five tilting toward thinking
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  Speaker 1: that jay is actually guilty of what is being alleged
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  Speaker 1: the crimes he is alleged to have committed. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to dive fully into why, because not a lot
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  Speaker 1: of news is broken in the past week on the
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  Speaker 1: jay Z side of this story. If you're a law
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  Speaker 1: and order nerd, I'm sure you feel like plenty has happened,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't think so. I just don't want to
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  Speaker 1: be rehashing lawyers going back and forth in the media.
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  Speaker 1: One thing worth noting, though we did see the alleged
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  Speaker 1: victims speak to NBC, there are inconsistencies in her story,
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  Speaker 1: and we've seen jay Z and his lawyer double and
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  Speaker 1: triple down on the aggressiveness of their denial. They formally
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  Speaker 1: moved to have the case dismissed. Okay. We've seen Tony Buzby,
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  Speaker 1: the larger than the life Texas attorney who's bringing the
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  Speaker 1: case against jay Z, dig in. Okay, Buzzby's not giving
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  Speaker 1: an inch. So unless we're following every legal breadcrumb here,
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  Speaker 1: there's not much to talk about. Jay's tactics have been
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  Speaker 1: able to hold the line with public opinions so far. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: the NFL is still backing him. There seems to be
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  Speaker 1: a wall of support online from fans and friendlies in
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  Speaker 1: the press in the face of these allegations, the bleeding
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  Speaker 1: has been stifled for the moment, at least as it
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  Speaker 1: pertains to public relations. So if things are pretty much
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  Speaker 1: status quo, why do I now think jay Z is
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  Speaker 1: more likely to be guilty of these alleged crimes than
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  Speaker 1: he is likely to be innocent. Why is my opinion
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  Speaker 1: on this changed over the last week. Because here's why.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's less likely that Tony Busby is an
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  Speaker 1: ignorant fool than it is that jay Z was the
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  Speaker 1: Raypee creep that there alleging he was twenty four years ago.
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  Speaker 1: That's just my gun. Okay. For Tony Busby to pursue
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  Speaker 1: this case in the first place and to then double
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  Speaker 1: down after the fierceness of jay Z in his legal
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  Speaker 1: team's response, Tony Busby would have to be operating from
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  Speaker 1: a point of stupendous hubris and idiocy. And I just
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  Speaker 1: don't think the guy is that dumb. He's already worth
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  Speaker 1: fifty million dollars, so he doesn't need money. He has
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  Speaker 1: government contracts with the State of Texas, Okay, he's so
• 10:32
  Speaker 1: he's got work. It's my point. He also has a
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  Speaker 1: reputation to uphold. You shoot at the king and you miss. Eh,
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: you shoot at the king and you miss with an
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  Speaker 1: unloaded gun. It's just too dumb. I could be wrong,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't think that's who Buzzby is. And I
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  Speaker 1: think his claim that he has evidence is more believable
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  Speaker 1: than Jay's claim that he's totally innocent. I could be wrong, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I want to stress that, but given the facts that
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  Speaker 1: are on the table right now, at this moment, that
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  Speaker 1: is where I am at Now. I'm not saying Jay
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  Speaker 1: z is guilty. I'm just saying I'm slightly on one
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  Speaker 1: side of the seesaw then the other. And I should
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  Speaker 1: also say that if new evidence comes to light, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure it will, I reserve the right to change
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  Speaker 1: my mind based on new facts. Okay, But as of
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  Speaker 1: right now, this is just what my gut is telling me.
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  Speaker 1: It's slightly more likely to me that Jay's guilty as alleged.
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  Speaker 1: We get more details, we get more importantly, we get
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  Speaker 1: more interesting details on this case, and I guess broadly
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  Speaker 1: on the Sean Combs case. I will have them for
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  Speaker 1: you here in the after party. Before we get to
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  Speaker 1: the rest of today's after party, though, I just want
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  Speaker 1: to mention our rewind episode is going to pop up
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  Speaker 1: on your feed the day after you hear this bonus episode,
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: and that rewind episode is another Christmas themed story, this
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: one on the incredible country singer Merle Haggard. So check
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: that out, okay for all your honky tonk Christmas vibes.
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  Speaker 1: And even if you don't know who Merle is, you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna want to hear this story. Merle is one of
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  Speaker 1: the best to ever do it all right? Okay? Following Merle,
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  Speaker 1: next week's episode another story that takes place around Christmas.
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  Speaker 1: It's on Larger than Life Life of the Party Chris Farley.
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  Speaker 1: So when you're listening to this episode, you're no doubt
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  Speaker 1: going to be thinking of SNL and the SNL cast
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  Speaker 1: that you love growing up. Let me know six one seven,
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  Speaker 1: nine oh six six sixty three eight. Which SNL performer
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  Speaker 1: is your fave and from which era? Which SNL performer
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  Speaker 1: from which cast made you and your friends laugh the hardest?
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  Speaker 1: Hit me up at Grace laind pod on the Socials
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  Speaker 1: six one seven nine oh six six sixty three eight.
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  Speaker 1: Voicemail and text. I will be back in a flash
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  Speaker 1: with your voicemails and text. All right, We're gonna get
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  Speaker 1: to your texting voicemails in a second, but I want
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  Speaker 1: to talk to you guys real quick about something. As
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  Speaker 1: I just mentioned before the break, hit me up with
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  Speaker 1: your answers question of the Week on SNL. But I'm
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  Speaker 1: also looking for something else from you guys this week.
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  Speaker 1: I want to know what's your story? Okay. I want
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  Speaker 1: to hear from you guys on any story related to
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  Speaker 1: rock and roll that you want to tell. It can
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  Speaker 1: be a story that happened to you at a concert
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  Speaker 1: or a show, or just listening to music. It can
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  Speaker 1: be a story about an artist that you heard about
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  Speaker 1: that I don't know about, okay, but he screwed that.
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  Speaker 1: Don't worry about the story being unique or something that
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  Speaker 1: I or others have heard. It can be any story
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  Speaker 1: of rock and roll animalism that you love. It can
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  Speaker 1: be a story, like I said, you've already heard in
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  Speaker 1: Disgraceland that you keep going back to, that you shared
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  Speaker 1: with others, a story that you and your friends can't
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  Speaker 1: stop thinking about that you talk about often. All Right,
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  Speaker 1: I'm serious about this idea of preserving the true spirit
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  Speaker 1: of rock and roll that we talked about in a
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  Speaker 1: few of these previous bonus episodes to do. So you guys,
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  Speaker 1: you got to help me out. Disco's got to help
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  Speaker 1: all right, Send your rock and roll, animal story, any story,
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  Speaker 1: send it into me. I'm gonna start cataloging them. I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna start talking about them more here in the after
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  Speaker 1: party with you guys directly. I'm gonna start featuring you
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  Speaker 1: and your stories every week in videos on social. So
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  Speaker 1: give me a little bit about yourself as well. Who
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  Speaker 1: you are, what your name is, where you're from, how
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  Speaker 1: long you've been listening to Disgraceland, and anyone you want
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  Speaker 1: me to shout out when when I feature you and
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  Speaker 1: your story. Okay, the guys down at the job site,
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  Speaker 1: the girls in your office on your shift with you,
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  Speaker 1: your cat, your dog, your brother, your sister, whoever. I'll
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  Speaker 1: pick one story. I'll pick one story and feature it
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  Speaker 1: in a video on social and I get to use
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  Speaker 1: my Carl Castle voice. This week's story of the week
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  Speaker 1: comes from deb in the two to one too, And
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  Speaker 1: then I'm gonna read your story in a bit about you,
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  Speaker 1: maybe putting some visuals to the video, and then we'll,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we'll talk about some of the other stories
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  Speaker 1: here in the after party as well, like this whole
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  Speaker 1: process is gonna be us sort of maintaining, preserving the
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  Speaker 1: true spirit of rock and roll. I don't know exactly
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  Speaker 1: what this is going to turn into, but it's it's
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  Speaker 1: it's all about us together, preserving these stories beyond the podcast,
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  Speaker 1: and at a minimum, this project will give us the
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  Speaker 1: opportunity to start talking more about these wild tales here
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  Speaker 1: in the after party and on social every week when
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  Speaker 1: I pick one of you and feature your story. So
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  Speaker 1: the Kinks they had the Village Green Preservation Society. This
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  Speaker 1: is something like the Disgraceland rock and Roll Preservation Society,
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  Speaker 1: the Disco rock and Roll Preservation Society, something like that.
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  Speaker 1: So hit me with your stories, any story, any rock
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  Speaker 1: and roll animal story you got six one seven, nine
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  Speaker 1: oh six, six sixty three eight voicemail texts at Disgrace
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  Speaker 1: LAMDPOD on the socials. Okay, let's hear from Jessica in
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  Speaker 1: the three one four.
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  Speaker 3: Hi, Jake, it's Jessica, your friendly neighborhood missaus therapist. I
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  Speaker 3: really want you to debunk the rod storre at stomach pumpsing.
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  Speaker 3: My uncle has brought it up multiple times. I don't
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  Speaker 3: know why he even thinks about it, but I keep
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  Speaker 3: telling him that's not physically possible. So I just would
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  Speaker 3: really like some real factual and information on that.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Jessica. I don't know who your uncle is,
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  Speaker 1: but he's he does have a weird You're you're hinting
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  Speaker 1: at a weird fascination here with this story. And it's
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  Speaker 1: a weird fucking story. It's a bit too ridiculous. I
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  Speaker 1: never believed it, the Rod Stewart having his stomach pumped.
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  Speaker 1: Uh So this morning, on the heels of your voicemail,
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  Speaker 1: I looked it up and I learned how this story
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  Speaker 1: came to be. And I remember hearing the story as
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  Speaker 1: some of you did when I was a kid, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: in like elementary school. Uh the story is, the myth
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  Speaker 1: is that Rod Stewart took on nine sailors. Rod's a
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  Speaker 1: giving lad, I guess, because this was Fallatio and like
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  Speaker 1: I said, Rod Rod, Yeah, Rod was doing the deed
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  Speaker 1: there and anyway, afterward, as the ridiculous story goes, Rod
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  Speaker 1: had swallowed so much that he had to have it
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  Speaker 1: all pumped out. Okay, dumb, dumb, fucking story clearly never happened.
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  Speaker 1: But this morning I asked, how could this become a myth.
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  Speaker 1: I looked it up and it's pretty interesting. Okay, So
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  Speaker 1: I believe this is the early eighties when this takes place.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Could have been the late seventies, but I believe it's
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: the early eighties. And apparently Rod Stewart had pissed off
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: one of his publicists or his main publicists, a disgruntled
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: ex publicist. I found the guy's name, but I'm not
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: using it here now. Look, I'm not trying to be
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: insensitive here at all. I'm just telling you the story,
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: all right, So do not judge me for this. Apparently
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: Rod Stuart was staying at some hotel with his family,
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: friend's crew whomever on the road I guess, and he
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: had a son with him and was apparently trying to
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: maintain some non rock and roll lifestyle, some sort of
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: family atmosphere. And Rod caught his publicist at the hotel
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: in bed with another man, and that pissed Rod off,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: so Rod fired the publicist. Now that's the story I
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: read this morning. Do I believe that story to be true.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: I don't believe it to be one hundred percent accurate,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: but I do think it's a kernel of the story's origin.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Should be noted that I read in this scene. I
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: don't want to shit on this publication because they're very
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: active and out there in the world, and I think
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: they do more good than bad. But I did read
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: another story from this outlet this morning that said that
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Martin Scorsese grew up in Queen's which he did not.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: But hey, everybody gets facts wrong every now and then.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Myself included that said the details of the story, I'm
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: not one hundred percent behind them. However, the general origin
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: of it is very interesting to me, and I think
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: it could have happened. Rod comes back to his hotel.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: He finds his publicist in bed with another man. Rod
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: is pissed off about this for some reason. I don't
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: know what it is, beyond the obvious sort of I
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: guess prudeness and homophobia. I don't know. I don't know
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: what was going on. I don want to accuse Rod
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: of that. I was pissed, fired the publicist, and then
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: the publicist, feeling vengeful, went to his contacts in the
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: press and made this rumor up about Rod and spread
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: it to get revenge, which is insane. So Jessica, lay
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: that all on your uncle and let me know what
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: he says. Seriously, I want to know what your uncle says.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: I don't think I don't think he's going to give
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: up this story. It feels like he's too attached to it.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: But let me know, all right, lots of incoming for
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: you guys on your favorite Christmas songs. And we talked
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: about that last week. We'll give a little more air
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: to it this week. So let's check out this voicemail
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: from Liam in the two oh six.
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this is Liam, callin from Seattle. You're asking about
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: a favorite Christmas song. So that little story. In nineteen
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: ninety six, I was backpacking through Cambodia and that was
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: early on. Paul Pott was still alive and place was
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: a total mess, totally anarchy.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Loved it.
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: Prior to leaving, I put together a little set of
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: Christmas tunes on a tape for my walkman. And so
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: back in the day, huh and one of the songs
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: you know I had, I would play over and over
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: as those going through the end Cool Lott Temples and Cambodia.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: And now it's become a staple for the holidays when
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: we get family together, and that is rocking out to
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: run DMC Christmas in Hollis.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Liam, I love this. I love that you're backpacking through
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Polepot's Cambodia in the nineteen nineties and listening to run DMC.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: This might be the most badass voicemail we've ever received.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Love it, Liam, Christmas time in Hollis. Can't fuck with
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: it all right? Six one seven nine was six six
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: six three eight Get at me, guys voicemail and text.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Let's check out this text from the three to oh two. Okay,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: text reads, Here's what I don't understand about Tom DeLong.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Why Tom DeLong of all people? I mean, I do
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: know why, But surely there's got to be someone more relevant,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: more socially impactful in the two thousands who believes as
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: strongly as Tom does. Now that this person from the
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: three to zero two who's writing in is referencing the
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Little Disgraceland documentary we released on our Patreon last week
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: as a drop that goes into the story of Tom
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: DeLong and his UFO disclosure. And my answer to that
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: would be the United States government has used many unwitting
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: but also unlikely individuals from culture to disclose information. So
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, Maybe it's just as simple
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: as the CIA just doesn't have a handle. I mean,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: who are they going to go through? You know, three
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: months ago you would have said jay Z would have
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: been a good choice, right, So, I mean Tom DeLong
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: has a lot of experience in this field. The guy's
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: co written a ton of books on this, and he
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: has a huge bullhorn and a huge audience. And I
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: think it's as simple is that. I really do. And
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: I want to know what's going on in New Jersey,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: all right. Three H two also writes in a thousand
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: mob guys in New Jersey and not one of them
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: is shot a drone down? Yeah, what is up? What
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: is up? Every day? I have a different opinion on this.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: I'm like, it's UFO, It's it's UAPs. Then I'm like
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: it's China. Then I'm like it's government they're looking for
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: they're trying to sense out radiation. There's a dirty bomb,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: that's I'm not saying that. Don't get worried, but you know,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: my havelet my paranoia get the best of me. People
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: from New Jersey who are listening to this, please call me,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: write to me, text me, hit me at disgrace lampod
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: on social some of you already have, but no one
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: so far who has had eyes on these six one
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: seven nine oh six six six three eight. I want
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: to know what the hell is going on? Please, We're
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: not getting any information, and I've kind of like, I'm
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: not trying to be into this story, but I can't
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: stop thinking about it, So hit me up. All right,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: back to real quick here three to oh two and
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: the Tom DeLong doc. If you guys haven't seen this,
• 23:04
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• 23:09
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• 23:12
  Speaker 1: paid Patreon members. All right, you can be able to
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: check it out there, all right? Five seven oh five
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: seven oh right, saying hey Jake, this is Logan from
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: the five seven oh. I just finished the latest bonus episode.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: I want to let you know I could not hear
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: the trucks in the background. I hope this helps rock
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: and rolla five seven oh. It does help. There's no
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: trucks today, but there is some bang and they're putting
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: a roof on the on the house across the street.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: I did find out today that a semi famous felon
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: has moved into the house on my street, like four
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: houses down. I'm not gonna say who it is because
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: he's rehabilitated himself and we're all for that. But uh,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: I'm a little starstruck by this. Fascinating anyways, they're putting
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: a roof on the house across the street. I think,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: I'm I think I'm talking my way around the bang
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: and I can't wait for the studio to be done.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: I can't wait get a little more time, though I
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: appreciate the uh. The text five to seven zero four
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: one six, Jason writes in this is in regards to
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: the Christmas song. I want to do a couple more
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: of these Christmas songs. Christmas in Prison by John Brian is,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: in my mind, the greatest Christmas song ever written. It's
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: along the lines of I'll be home for Christmas, but
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: it's realer and it puts you right there in the
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: cell with the singer and his pining heart. How can
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: you be? It was Christmas in prison and the food
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: was real good. We had turkey and pistols carved out
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: of wood. And I dream of her always, even when
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: I don't dream. Her names on my tongue, and her
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: blood's in my stream. Rock a rolla Merry Christmas. How
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: awesome is that? Jason? Thank you for that text. Beautiful.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: I need to check that John Prine song out. I
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: keep saying that I keep forgetting, but h I appreciate
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: you reminding me six one seven nine oh six six
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: six three eight. Any of you guys want to remind
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: me of your Christmas songs? Your favorite Christmas songs. We
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: can keep this topic open for the next week here
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: until we get through the holiday season at Disgraceland pod
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: on the socials as well. Got this one from a
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: fellow named John Gorman, who wrote wrote to me last
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: year at this time, and I missed it, okay, and
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: then he wrote to me again and I saw the
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: rest of his message. I think that's how this worked.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: My dog's barking in the background now and with John writes,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: I just got back to the States from Shane McGowan's funeral,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: and if you haven't already done one, you got to
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: do one on him. The stories his wife told that
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: the funeral were insane. I knew he was one mad bastard,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: but had no idea how mad. And I responded, of course,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: I was like, were you friends with Shane? How did
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: you end up at his funeral and John Roden I
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: asked him if you heard the episode too, and John Rodan,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: I did, great episode, big fan, and I met him
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: at a music bar through friends a friends band called
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: Black forty seven. I've heard of Black seven before in
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Manhattan years ago. Patty Riley's got drunk a few nights
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: before his funeral, grabbed my passport and went and was
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: welcomed like family, oddly enough, and helped send him off.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: John Gorman, you sound like my kind of guy.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: That is incredible. Incredible. John like the sham McGown episode
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: as well. So if you guys haven't heard the sham
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: McGown episode of Just Graceland, I encourage you to go
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: check that out. Speaking of the Irish, this from Matt
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Oh Brannan spelled oh br Na, I n with some
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: accents over the O in the A accents that I
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: should know because of my Irish heritage, but I do not,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: And Matt writes in, ah, you're a Brennan too, I
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: was born Brennan, but use the Irish version, of which
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: there are two Brennan and Brannan, wonder which is yours.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Interesting content. He goes on to say. If you're from
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: the South, it's brownan meaning tear. If from North, it's brand,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: which means crow. Now I knew about the crow interpretation
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: of Brennan, I did not know about the tear interpretation
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: of Brennan. And I don't want to be regretful of
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: the crow tramp stamp tattoo that I have, but I
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: might need to start considering a tear drop tattoo on
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: my face. I don't know, just just thinking, Okay, what
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: else do we got here? We'll do one from X.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: This one comes from Scott Whole Supple. Whule Supple, I
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: should know who this guy is. Verified, writes in Disgrace
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Slam Pod. Thank you for the amazing podcast. You crushed
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: every episode, Anthony Bourdain. One was an emotional rollercoaster. You
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: made the ten hour drive from Nashville to State College,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: PA a breeze. Scott, You're the man. Thank you for
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: taking me along on your trip. I appreciate it. At
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Thesgrace slam Pod, Guys, you want to hit me up
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: anywhere Facebook, Instagram, or on X You can hit me
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: up with your answer to the question of the week,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: which is which SNL performer is your fave and from
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: what era? And and I encourage you to hit me
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: up with your story. Okay, what story do you want
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: us to preserve? What story of rock and roll animalism
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: most resonates with you that you can't stop thinking about?
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Let me know. Call me six one seven nine, six
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: six sixty three eight at Disgray lampod on the socials.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: I'll be back in a flash with some reviews and
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: some emails. All right, we are back. I'm highly caffeinated.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to slow it down. I hope I'm not
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: going too fast here. I have never talked to you
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: guys about my coffee maker. It's an espresso machine. Actually
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: it's not a super expensive one, but it is a
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: kick ass one. I love this thing, honestly, Like I
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: have guitars that I like less than my espresso machine.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: And I'm drinking like a half calf right. I do
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: a little you know, decaffeinated grind and some and a
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: regular grind. And I am cruising right now. So I
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: hope I'm slowing it down though, So you know the
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: drill right, Independent podcasts right don't have billions of dollars
• 29:13
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• 29:15
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• 29:20
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• 29:57
  Speaker 1: give this one all of them? Ashley talking about the
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: recent John Lennon episode, Part two, the one when we
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: get into the assassination of John Lennon. Thank you, Ashley,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: get in touch, hit me up and we'll get some
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• 30:13
  Speaker 1: da that's the username rights. In twenty twenty I joined
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: the podcast craze, devouring mainly true crime shows and trending topics.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Someone passionate about music history and Elvis. I stumbled upon
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Jake's podcast and was immediately drawn in the Disgrace Land
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  Speaker 1: and double Elvis intrigued me and I'm glad I had
• 30:31
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• 30:41
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• 30:49
  Speaker 1: and again disgracelanpod at gmail dot com. Just like this
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: email from Shelley Freeberg. And wow, do we have a
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: good one here. Okay listen subject Diddy episode message. I
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: swear to god, I didn't read this email until right now. Okay,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: the whole thing I said earlier about jay Z, I
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: said that before I read this. You just have to
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: trust me. On this email says hey, just listen to
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: your ditty update. You are fifty to fifty regarding his guilt. Actually, no,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: I'm not fifty to fifty regarding Ditty's guilt. This is
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: me talking now, Shelley, not Shelley. I said I was
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: fifty to fifty regarding jay Z's guilt. Okay, but that
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: doesn't seem to That doesn't matter to Shelley either, I
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: don't think, because she goes on to say, way to
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: straddle the middle of the road regarding a monster pedophile. Okay,
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: So now I'm not sure if she's talking about jay
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Z or Diddy. Okay, let's assume she's talking about jay Z.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: I've loved Disgraceland for years. Just subscribed and listen to
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: your Diddy episode where you have no opinion about Ditty
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: or jay Z. Now, let's just patently false. And if
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: you've listened to Disgraceland for years, how did you just subscribe? Okay,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: I do have it. I clearly have an opinion about
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: jay Z. And I said I was fifty to fifty,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: And look, if you're fifty to fifty, I didn't say
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: I'm fifty to fifty, like, I don't know, could be
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: this way, it could be that way. I said it's
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: fifty to fifty, that he could have done it or
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: did not do it, and that says something because if
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: you actually believe in the integrity of somebody, you're not
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: gonna give him a fifty percent chance of raping somebody.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: There's a huge difference. Okay, if you asked me, and
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: I said this clearly last week, If you asked me
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: two years ago, do I think jay Z could have
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: raped a child? I would have said absolutely, one hundred percent. No,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: my trust in his integrity has degraded by fifty percent
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: more now by fifty five percent. Not that that's gonna satisfy
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Shelley here, Okay, let me keep on going here. Are
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: you afraid of having opinion? I'm clearly not afraid of
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: having an opinion. If you have listened to this podcast
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: for years, you know I am not afraid of having
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: an opinion, even wildly unpopular opinions. Okay, Then she goes
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: on to say, do you hate women? I'm not even
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: gonna answer that because it is so fucking stupid. Support
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: the music industry's disgusting system. Apparently, how fucking disappointing. I
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: never pegged you for a coward. Is this reads so
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: crazy right that I actually think it's not from a
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: real person. I think it's from an army of trolls,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: slash email whatever, not a bot, but just people who
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: are just sort of been unleashed to go out into
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: the world and just try to, I don't know, like
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: get public opinion going in one way or another. This
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: episode that basically whitewashed their crimes. How the fuck did
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: that episode whitewash any crimes? I feel dumb, guys even
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: given this this this criticism air here, But I don't know.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: She goes on to say, Oh, I don't know, maybe
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: be there innocent. Well, yeah, they might be fucking innocent. Okay,
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: they might be. You don't know. We have not seen,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: especially jay Z, we haven't seen any evidence at all,
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: Okay none. We have an accuser who has what we've
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: seen this year, out of this week inconsistencies in her story.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Does that mean she's lying? I don't think so. Maybe
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: perhaps we don't know. We're gonna find out. We're gonna
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: find out, And I'll just say, as it pertains to
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Sean Combs, we do have we do have actual evidence.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: We have evidence that he is a monster. Okay, we
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: have evidence that he beat the tar out of his girlfriend,
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: but we don't have evidence that he's yet that he's
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: a pedophile as you're suggesting. We don't have evidence that
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  Speaker 1: of evidence yet that we have seen that supports the
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  Speaker 1: I want your story, call me, text me, at me
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  Speaker 1: And well that's a disgrace, all right. In honor of
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  Speaker 1: this week's subject, Johnny Yace me reading to you the
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  Speaker 1: Last week one weeks on Chart eight. Number two, Let
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