Latest / UK Column Radio / UK Column News Podcast 16th August 2024
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- 0:08Speaker 1: Good afternoon. Today is Friday, the sixteenth of August twenty
- 0:12twenty four, just after one o'clock. Welcome to uk column News.
- 0:16I'm your host, Brian Gerrish. Delighted to be joined today
- 0:19by Debbie Evans and with Mark Anderson, who will be
- 0:23speaking by his live link from the United States. Well,
- 0:28we're going to kick straight off with the subject of
- 0:31Ukraine because events there are immensely important. Obviously, everything that's
- 0:36taken place in Ukraine and the war has huge ramifications
- 0:41for not only everybody in Europe, but also US and
- 0:46to some extent worldwide. And of course the Western media
- 0:50getting very very excited by the Ukrainian incursion over the
- 0:53northern border into Kursk territory. Now, the first thing to
- 0:58say to people will come onto the Kiev Post in
- 1:03just a second, But before we get to that, the
- 1:06important thing to say is that the region that the
- 1:10Ukrainians have gone into is largely open space woodlands. It
- 1:17has a very very small and well dispersed Russian population,
- 1:22and so essentially the Ukrainian forces have gone into an
- 1:26area where they're operating largely in small groups and dispersed
- 1:32amongst this very wide open space and forested area. So
- 1:39to some extent, this makes the Russian operation very difficult
- 1:43because although the Ukrainian troops are using mechanized equipment, the
- 1:50region itself suits relatively small groups hiding in these wooded areas. Nevertheless,
- 1:58what we're actually seeing on ground is the Russians are
- 2:02now forming a comprehensive defense and the Ukrainians have been
- 2:06taking particularly heavy losses. But the key point is propaganda
- 2:12from the Ukrainian side just going to bring on the
- 2:15Kiev Post here. This is not to criticize them directly,
- 2:19but to say that even in this article is very
- 2:23difficult to actually pick up what's happening. They say five
- 2:27things worth knowing about Ukraine's curse offensive in Russia. If
- 2:32you look at the article itself, that's Russia reinforces the
- 2:36defensive position, drone swarms Kursk twenty twenty four, and a
- 2:43lot of things that you didn't know about, which is
- 2:46talking about counter terrorism in Chechnya. So there's not a
- 2:50lot of factual information in this thing. If I just
- 2:52bring in the next bit of text here, this is
- 2:57where the propaganda starts. Moscow is and sacking other frontline
- 3:01sectors for troops. This is totally untrue. The Russians have
- 3:06about eight hundred and fifty thousand troops mobilized. They have
- 3:11an abundance of troops and the troops that are being
- 3:13used to quell the incursion into the Curse area. These
- 3:18are troops completely separate from the fighting in the Dombas region.
- 3:24To the contrary, it is Ukraine that is having to
- 3:27pull troops off the front line. And at the moment,
- 3:31what is happening is that the Russian forces are moving
- 3:34forward in many areas. This is simply not being discussed
- 3:38in the West. Let's have a look at the BBC
- 3:41getting very excited because the Ukrainians are stating that they've
- 3:45been using Challenger tanks in the Curse concursion.
- 3:55Speaker 2: Challenger two tanks supplied by the UK to Ukrainian forces
- 3:59have been used in their cross border incursion into Russia,
- 4:02a source as told the BBC. Kiev says it's expanding
- 4:06its military operation in the Krusk region, and within the
- 4:09past hour or so, a top commander has said the
- 4:11country's troops advanced a further one and a half kilometers
- 4:15in the past dead but Russia insists they are pushing
- 4:18back our correspondent Will Vernon has the latest.
- 4:23Speaker 3: In Russia. Evacuations from parts of the border regions continue.
- 4:27Thousands of people have been forced to flee their homes.
- 4:31The Russian military is desperately trying to stop the Ukrainian advance,
- 4:35releasing more pictures allegedly of strikes against Ukrainian forces.
- 4:42Speaker 1: So there's a lot of nuances in that clip. Of course,
- 4:45there's the excitement that the British Challenger tank is apparently
- 4:49being used in the battle. This was one of the
- 4:52wonder weapons that was supposedly going to change the war
- 4:56for Ukraine, alongside American equipment such as the abra Ham's tank,
- 5:01and the latest Western wonder weapon is the F sixteen fighter,
- 5:05which is not going to arrive in sufficient numbers to
- 5:08change much on the battlefield. But he's also talking about
- 5:13alleged Russian attacks. Now, if there's one thing about the
- 5:17information that is coming out of the Russian Ministry Defense
- 5:21and is also coming across many excellent social media analyst sites,
- 5:28is the use of Russian weapons to destroy heavy armor.
- 5:33This is a video a destruction of a British Challenger tank.
- 5:38Let's let this video run and you can see what
- 5:42is about to happen. So the first thing we're seeing
- 5:45is the power of the drones in surveillance and spotting armor,
- 5:49but also men operating, and there is no doubt that
- 5:53the Russians have far more drones and better capability. So
- 5:59the Ukraine in this sector are really suffering from the
- 6:03attacks that are coming in from Russian drones. And if
- 6:06we have a look just very shortly in this clip,
- 6:09you will see the effect of one of the Russian
- 6:12drone strikes on this Challenger tank there that has gone
- 6:17into the woods to hide. There are many reports appearing
- 6:20that the Challenger tank is not faring well on the
- 6:23battlefield against modern weapons that the Russians are using and
- 6:27has a propensity to explode and burn. So this is
- 6:33just one of the videos that the BBC is trying
- 6:37to call alleged attacks. The reality is that the Ukrainians
- 6:42are now really beginning to suffer from these attacks and
- 6:46the number of Ukrainian troops being killed is climbing. The Ukrainians,
- 6:54we also need to say, are reinforcing the area, and
- 6:59this many commentators are saying is a disastrous action because
- 7:03essentially they are going to be contained in the initial
- 7:07incursion area, and the Russians aren't then going to destroy
- 7:12these troops and their equipment bit by bit as they
- 7:16are doing on the other areas of the front. The
- 7:20difference are stressed again is that the Ukrainians have pulled
- 7:24highly experienced, some of their best troops off the Dombas
- 7:28fronts in order to make this attack into Russia. What's
- 7:34the objective. It appears to hold territory up until the
- 7:39US elections, when the Ukrainians can use this as a
- 7:44bargaining chip for more money and weapons and to show
- 7:49that the Western masters that they're still capable of an
- 7:51attack on the Russians. So many military people are saying
- 7:55this is a very cynical attack because it's a publicity
- 7:59stunt which is going to cost many lives. Now, I
- 8:02just want to come on to the subject of losses
- 8:04of Western and we will say possibly even UK servicemen
- 8:11and women inside Ukraine. There's been at least four major
- 8:15Russian attacks where the Russians have claimed that they have
- 8:18hit NATO personnel in Ukraine. This is a freedom of
- 8:23information sent to the Ministry of Defense in uk fifteenth
- 8:27of August saying please advise how many British service personnel
- 8:31have died while carrying out duties in Ukraine since May
- 8:36twenty twenty two to the date of this request. Please
- 8:39advise how many British service personnel have been injured while
- 8:42carrying out duties. Now, this is a very important question,
- 8:46of course. The response here from the Ministry of Defense
- 8:50goes on to come up with all the usual statements,
- 8:55so they estimate they will take an additional twenty working
- 8:58days to make a final decision on where the balance
- 9:02of public interest lies. That doesn't mean say they're considering
- 9:06what's best for the public. It means they're considering what
- 9:09is safest for the government. But the response goes on
- 9:13with a normal disclaimer. But I couldn't help but notice
- 9:17that there is no signature, So this is effectively an
- 9:21anonymous response from the Ministry of Defense. We will wait
- 9:25and see whether they declare who has been killed or
- 9:28injured and what the numbers are. Now, I just wanted
- 9:31to bring people's attention on to this. This is something
- 9:34that I've been thinking about over a couple of days.
- 9:37But this is the definition of murder. This is taken
- 9:41from the CPS website. So in a case of murder,
- 9:46you've got to be of sound mine. You've got to
- 9:50kill somebody unlawfully, and that is any reasonable creature that
- 9:54could be a human being. And it is going to
- 9:59take place under the King's peace, so it's not in wartime,
- 10:03and there's got to be an intent to kill. So effectively,
- 10:07this is the basic definition. We can also have a
- 10:11look at this. This is conspiring or soliciting to commit murder.
- 10:17Whosoever shall solicit, encourage, pursue, or endeavor to pursue, or
- 10:22shall propose to any person to murder any other person. Now,
- 10:26what I want to do is just get the audience
- 10:29thinking about this in relation to the conflict in Ukraine.
- 10:34And of course if we put operations in the middle
- 10:37we've effectively got a UK cabinet war against Russia. It's
- 10:42a proxy war being fought via Ukraine. So uk has
- 10:46not been attacked by Russia nor suffered any act of war.
- 10:51UK is not a war with Russia. And the UK
- 10:55has solicited, encouraged, persuaded and endeavored to persuade Ukraine and
- 11:01individuals in Ukraine to murder Russian civilians and military on
- 11:05behalf of the UK government. Russians are not subjects of
- 11:09his Majesty, nor are they within the King's dominions. So
- 11:13what I'm showing here is that we're not at war
- 11:16with Russia and yet we are directly responsible for the
- 11:20killing of people. We being the Cabinet office in this country.
- 11:24Should they be held accountable? And if we just bring
- 11:27this in, we can also now ask a question if
- 11:30British special forces and servicemen are being killed in Ukraine
- 11:34under these circumstances, have they been unlawfully killed at the
- 11:39hand of the UK government. Our leave our audience to
- 11:42consider this, But I'll just bring in reports that Charles
- 11:48Mullett made a couple of days ago, because here we've
- 11:51got the British government scrutinizing people in this country. Tommy
- 11:56Robinson and Nigel Fraj mentioned here being rutinized by the
- 12:01security services amid fears that Britain's Fi right riots are
- 12:05being fueled by the Putin regime. And we've also got
- 12:09the fact that specialist officers have been tasked with pursuing
- 12:13online offenders and so called influencers responsible for spreading hate
- 12:18and inciting violence. This is while the killing goes on
- 12:22in Ukraine at the hand of the UK government. And
- 12:25the Cabinet Office in particular. And Charles Mallett also highlighted
- 12:31here that there was additional parts that we needed to
- 12:35encourage capable of encourage or assistance intends to encourage or
- 12:40assistance commission of a serious crime. These can be directly applied,
- 12:48I believe, to what's happening in Ukraine. So at that
- 12:52point we'll move on. But events in Ukraine clearly targeting
- 12:57the American election. So Mark, bring you into the UK
- 13:01column News today. Tell us about what's been happening around
- 13:05Camilla Harris.
- 13:08Speaker 4: Well, this is tying in Brian. Good day to everyone.
- 13:12This ties into media deception of one species or one
- 13:16context or another. Kamala coronated. This is from the most
- 13:20recent edition, the print edition of American Free Press. Mainstream
- 13:25media goes all in to get Harris elected. And we'll
- 13:30move on from there, and I'll explain in a more
- 13:32wide manner. This is very reminiscent the Time magazine coronating
- 13:39Kamala Harris. Is from the twenty sixth of August twenty
- 13:41twenty four. But remember back on the twenty third of
- 13:44October in two thousand and six, Time magazine also coronated
- 13:49Barack Obama, who was an obscure Illinois state senator before
- 13:56he became a US senator and made his way up
- 14:00the latter in Voila. It was our first black president,
- 14:04even though technically he was mulatto. And the same thing
- 14:07with Kamala racially. I'll briefly comment on that she is
- 14:11at best half black, but probably less than that, and
- 14:15we'll get into that more in another broadcast. But of
- 14:19course the media makes a lot of that and her
- 14:21gender to pump this up. But a little bit of
- 14:24details from this front page afppiece. The first couple paragraphs
- 14:30pretty much explain it, and then the last one. On
- 14:34August twelfth, Time magazine published an artist stylized rendering of
- 14:37Vice President Kamala Harris, drawing her to look up to
- 14:41the heavens. Despite the fact that Harris refused a sit
- 14:44down interview with the iconic magazine, the editors and publishers
- 14:48still made the decision to celebrate and praise the far
- 14:52left politician, And then I could probably add a little more. Ever,
- 14:59since a coup at the Democratic Party replaced the elderly
- 15:03cognitively impaired Joe Biden with Harris, the Vice president has
- 15:07refused to sit down for an interview, instead choosing to
- 15:10travel around the country to deliver the exact same speech
- 15:14straight off of a teleprompter. Harris Center running mate Minnesota
- 15:18Governor Tim Wallas, will talk about him in a few minutes.
- 15:21Have yet to publish anything that lays out where they
- 15:24will stand on the most important issues of the day,
- 15:26including immigration, the economy, and war. But the media still
- 15:32keeps spawning over them. And I'll jump to this on
- 15:35next part. Toward the end that article mentions this lady.
- 15:41You can go on the article mentions this lady. Sarah
- 15:46Fisher of Axios and as AFP indicated, and then I
- 15:51went to the Axios publication online to confirm this. The
- 15:54Harris campaign has been editing news headlines and descriptions with
- 15:59the Google Search ads that make it appear as that
- 16:03The Guardian, Reuter's, CBS News, and other major publishers publishers
- 16:08are on Camala's side. So there's some direct manipulation going
- 16:13on here. It's not just bias. And we'll continue from there.
- 16:18This is a little more detailed from Axios. The Harris
- 16:21campaign has been editing news headlines and descriptions within Google
- 16:24Search ads, as I noted, that make it appear as
- 16:27if The Guardian, Reuter, CBS, and other major publishers are
- 16:31on her side. Axios has found why it matters. It's
- 16:34a common practice in the commercial advertising world that doesn't
- 16:37violate Google's policies. But the ads mimic real news results
- 16:42from search closely enough that they have news outlets caught
- 16:45off guard. According to Google's Ad Transparency Center, the Trump
- 16:50campaign isn't running these types of ads, but this technique
- 16:54has been used by campaigns before. The ads say that
- 16:57they are sponsored, but it's not immediately clear that the
- 17:00text that accompanies real news links is written by the
- 17:03campaigns and not by the media publication itself, so this
- 17:10is a rather unusual thing. These are some actual screenshots
- 17:15that Axios did of the merger between advertising and news
- 17:20that we're talking about, where the Harris campaign apparently is
- 17:23manipulating the headlines. VP Harris's economic vision lower costs and
- 17:28higher wages, Tim Watz's military service. He's the of course,
- 17:33the governor of Minnesota, and the VP pick twenty four
- 17:36years in the National Guard. The next slide is a
- 17:39couple more examples of these. One has to do with
- 17:43inflation is down under the Biden Harris administration. The US
- 17:46is winning the inflation fight. So again the question is,
- 17:52did the Biden Harris excuse me, the Harris Waltz campaign
- 17:58actually alter those headlines are the main headlines, and apparently
- 18:03to some fairly significant extent, they have done so. Since
- 18:09August third, nearly a dozen news companies have been used
- 18:13in these types of ads from the Harris campaign. Nearly
- 18:15a dozen news companies. Examples include the Independent UK, National
- 18:20Public Radio, Associated Press, The Guardian, USA Today, Public Television PBS,
- 18:25and the US CNN, CBS News and Time magazine and others.
- 18:29Even in North Dakota radio station, these ads include links
- 18:33to real articles from the news outlets, but the headlines
- 18:36and supporting texts have been altered to read as though
- 18:39the articles support the Harris campaign's objectives. And that's probably
- 18:44a sufficient read on that, Brian. But it definitely suggests
- 18:49that the media is going all out, even beyond what
- 18:54they did for Obama, which was very significant in order
- 18:57to get the Harris Waltz ticket absolute top billing. Here. Now,
- 19:04this item here, Brian, is from the Minnesota Governor's office itself.
- 19:09We can talk just a little bit in a couple
- 19:11of minutes that I have left here about Governor Tim Watson, Minnesota,
- 19:16her VP partner, and back in twenty twenty two. Now
- 19:22take note of that the pandemic as we knew it
- 19:25was just about two years old, so there was some
- 19:28knowledge that the shots the injections posed some danger to
- 19:35the public. It wasn't like this was January or March
- 19:38twenty twenty. This was January of twenty two. Governor Waltz
- 19:42launches Kids Deserve a Shot Vaccine incentive program for Minnesotans
- 19:47five to eleven years old. Two hundred dollars visa gift
- 19:51cards to all Minnesota families who get their kids five
- 19:54to eleven years old fully vaccinated in January and February
- 19:58of twenty twenty two, and it notes here Today Governor
- 20:03Waltz announced the launch of the new phase of the
- 20:06Kids Deserve a Shot Vaccine is Sentate program. The next
- 20:10phase to encourage Minnesota families to get their kids five
- 20:14to eleven years old fully vaccinated against COVID nineteen. The Walls,
- 20:18Flanning and administrations committed to providing these resources to keep
- 20:21gets healthy. While Minnesota is one of the leaders in
- 20:24the nation in vaccinating children five year eleven years old.
- 20:28This is still the lowest rate of vaccination among eligible
- 20:31groups in the state. And go on from there. There's
- 20:38one other item I believe that stems from this press release.
- 20:43As omicron surges across our nation, we're continuing to use
- 20:47every resource we have to keep our families safe and healthy.
- 20:50Governor Wall said, there's a lot of highly transmissible virus
- 20:54circulating in our communities. By getting our children five year
- 20:58eleven years old vaccinated gives them critical protection against severe
- 21:01illness and hospitalization. You'll get two hundred dollars cash in
- 21:05your pocket for getting this easy vaccination. There was also
- 21:10an additional incentive that was involved in this. There's no
- 21:13better way to keep your family safe than by getting
- 21:16everyone who's eligible vaccinated. The Lieutenant governor was quoted as saying,
- 21:20we want to help Minnesota start the year off by
- 21:22getting these vaccinations done. And it goes on to say
- 21:29toward the end there that Minnesota's five to eleven must
- 21:32receive their first and second dose between January first and
- 21:36February twenty eighth of that year twenty twenty two in
- 21:40order to be eligible, and so a lot of critics
- 21:43of Governor Waltz Kamala, Harris's running partner Brian, have accused
- 21:48him of outright bribery back then to push the vaccination regime.
- 21:53And Governor Paul Lenti, the former governor of Minnesota up
- 21:57until twenty eleven, he said that Walls is the most
- 22:00liberal socialist governor in all of the United States, radically
- 22:05socialist in fact. So that's sort of an overview of
- 22:09the candidacy and the media going out of its way
- 22:13at the exclusion of all else to push the candidacy
- 22:15of Harris and Walls.
- 22:17Speaker 1: So back to you, Okay, thanks very much, Mark, Well,
- 22:21what's happening there in the States with psychological manipulation of
- 22:25the public, because this is what it's about. That's also
- 22:28taking place in UK, and we're going to see that
- 22:31in a coming to light in a number of the
- 22:34subsequent sections that we've got in today's news. So Debbie,
- 22:38welcome you to the News today, and you're going to
- 22:41take us into the subject of organ harvesting.
- 22:48Speaker 5: I am good afternoon, everybody, and thank you. And yet
- 22:52this is a massive subject and I have been asked
- 22:54by a number of people, please could I cover organ
- 22:57donation and transplantation. But I'm fear that it raises more
- 23:01questions than we're probably going to answer, and I'm hoping
- 23:04at least today we can start the conversation. So let's
- 23:08go back to remember between nineteen eighty eight and nineteen
- 23:13ninety five. Many of you will remember Older Hay Forgotten
- 23:18for twenty five years. The article is entitled obviously it's
- 23:22a lot older than that. Now, how the thousand infant
- 23:25bodies were found after Older Hay where organs were removed
- 23:28after post mortems and were left in laboratory storerooms and
- 23:34as a result the Royal Liverpool Children's Inquiry Report, massive report.
- 23:39If you haven't read it, it's quite harrowing. But as
- 23:41a result of Older Hay we have another regulator. I
- 23:45found another regulator which is another whole new segment of
- 23:48its own, but it's called the Human Tissue Authority and
- 23:51it was set up as a result of Older Hay
- 23:54as the regulator. But what does it actually do? What
- 23:57do they regulate? So in the next slide you'll see
- 24:00that it's a number of things. They cover a number
- 24:03of acts, the Human Tissue Act, the Human Tissue Quality
- 24:06and Safety for Human application regulations. It covers all sorts,
- 24:10but you're looking at anatomy, which is teaching AIDS for
- 24:13medical students, bone marrow, stem cell donation, organ donation, organs
- 24:18after death, post mortem, public display and research. Like I say,
- 24:23it's a whole new subject of its own. But I
- 24:26want to focus on organ donation today because currently on
- 24:30the waiting list there are seven thousand waiting for organs.
- 24:33So a little video to introduce you. Will you do
- 24:38it today? Have a look at this.
- 24:43Speaker 6: I did it waiting for the bus.
- 24:46Speaker 7: We did it together.
- 24:50Speaker 8: I saw them.
- 24:53Speaker 5: We did it together as a team.
- 24:59Speaker 6: Two minutes now could save up to nine lives. Confirm
- 25:03your decision to be an organ donor. It's the best
- 25:07thing you'll do today. Visit Organ Donation NHS dot.
- 25:11Speaker 5: UK and trust me, we're going to go and visit
- 25:17them in a minute. But I just want to show
- 25:19that the column on the Column website we've done an
- 25:22awful lot of work on organ donation. This is just
- 25:25a few examples. So if you go to the search
- 25:28bar on the UK Column website and put in organ donation,
- 25:31organ transplantation, lots more will come up. But this morning,
- 25:36this afternoon, I just want to focus on William at
- 25:40the story of William. William is eleven weeks old and
- 25:44he is in need of a heart. He's our youngest
- 25:47patient who is relying on another family to agree to
- 25:51donate their child's heart, because you have to remember that
- 25:55little people need little organs. Currently, there are about two
- 25:58hundred and fifty children waiting on the organ donation list
- 26:03and apparently thirty eight of those are neading hearts. So
- 26:06here's another little video waiting to live.
- 26:12Speaker 9: There's not much I can do.
- 26:18Speaker 8: I lon to live like you d.
- 26:33Speaker 10: Paigely for.
- 26:39Speaker 6: We give it to me.
- 26:42Speaker 10: No, if I see all the sun, I give.
- 26:52Speaker 11: It to me.
- 26:59Speaker 5: So you see, the pressure is on for parents to
- 27:01donate organs, and the Behavioral Insights team have been very
- 27:05busy working with the DVLA, the NHS Blood and Transplant Service,
- 27:10the Department of Health and Government Digital Services to design
- 27:14a different messaging to encourage us all to donate. And
- 27:18these little tiny changes have actually led to ninety six
- 27:22thousand extra extra people need it or wanting to or
- 27:27saying that they're opting in to donate. So how have
- 27:29they been doing this Well, They've been using randomized controlled
- 27:33trials in conjunction with you can see they're the Cabinet Office,
- 27:37Department of Health, Government Digital Services and DVLA. And another
- 27:42shot you'll see of the test that they're using, which
- 27:44is called test Learn and Adapt, which is applying behavioral
- 27:49insights to organ donation. I think there's another slide next
- 27:53one for test learn and adapt.
- 27:55Speaker 12: Is it that?
- 27:56Speaker 5: There? It is and you can see the people involved
- 27:59in that. And I've just highlight to Dr David Helpan
- 28:01because doesn't his name always crop up everywhere? But what
- 28:04does this actually mean? You know, Brian and all of
- 28:07the team, we've talked about nudge, the nudge technique, but
- 28:10what sludge Because sludge is the opposite of nudge and
- 28:14it makes a process much more difficult. It's to create
- 28:18friction deliberately. So for example, if you sign up to
- 28:22a thirty day free trial, you give your card details
- 28:25and they tell you that after thirty days, if you
- 28:27don't want it anymore, it's up to you to cancel
- 28:30the service. And similarly Nation, so if we look in
- 28:36Max and Kira's bill which was passed from twenty to twenty,
- 28:40we can see that we've gone from an opt in
- 28:43scheme to an opt out. So what do they ask
- 28:46you to do? They ask you to register your decision online.
- 28:50Now I have to say to everyone I registered opting
- 28:53out years ago, and I even got a letter. However,
- 28:57that doesn't apply anymore, and it would seem that anybody
- 29:00that has a letter, you have been probably opted back in.
- 29:04So if we go back to the red and green
- 29:07slide there with how to opt in and how to
- 29:10opt out, So register your decision, please opt out online.
- 29:15It doesn't seem to count any other way, and it
- 29:18is quite a simple procedure. In any event, there is
- 29:21a phone number that you can phone, and the phone
- 29:23numbers here, oh, three hundred one two three two three
- 29:27two three. So then I went to look at transplant
- 29:30units in the UK, and there are quite a lot
- 29:33of transplant units and I wanted to see how many
- 29:35transplants were going on in each unit. And on the
- 29:39next slide you'll see that in the year April, between
- 29:43April twenty three and May twenty four four, six hundred
- 29:48and fifty seven transplants have taken place, with four hundred
- 29:52and sixty two of those in Birmingham. But what is
- 29:55the UK's vision, Because clearly the UK have a vision
- 29:59and here it is organ Donation and Transplantation twenty thirty
- 30:04Meeting the Need, which is a ten year vision and
- 30:06this covers all nations. When I went to look at
- 30:10the forward, it indicated that deceased organ donation had risen
- 30:15by fifty six percent. And you'll see there that I've
- 30:18just arrowed Matt Hancock's name, which I'm sure will give
- 30:21you much confidence. But anyway, going further on into the document,
- 30:25the ambition is that the UK becomes a world leading
- 30:29service working with international colleagues to increase donors and transplants. Now,
- 30:35working with international colleagues, does that mean or donations are
- 30:39given in this country will stay in this country or
- 30:42are they being shipped out? I'm not quite sure on that.
- 30:45But if one of your loved ones does donate organs,
- 30:50they'll be given after their death the Saint John's Award
- 30:53and you will be given the award to increase visibility,
- 30:57and it's a gift from the government to say thank
- 31:00you very much. But if you're a living donor, so
- 31:03you've maybe wanting to give a kidney, or maybe one
- 31:07of your relatives needs a kidney, you're going to get
- 31:09awarded a living donation pin so, and they're going to
- 31:14be looking too at transplant as the early option. So
- 31:18this is explore it at an early stage. So you
- 31:21can see where we're going with this. And the word sustainable.
- 31:25It doesn't take long to see the word sustainable for
- 31:27sustainable goals and here we go a sustainable responsive UK service.
- 31:32We're going to maximize transplant opportunities in the UK and
- 31:36just repeat that maximized, and right at the top it
- 31:39says living donation will become an expected part of care,
- 31:44expected part of care. We're clinically appropriate for all in society.
- 31:50So I'm quite concerned about the worded you on that.
- 31:53But what is organ donation? So I went to look
- 31:56at the organ donation site and they say that most
- 31:59organs come from those who have died. But my question
- 32:02to that is have they and how important is this
- 32:06decision right now to all of us? So I just
- 32:09want to highlight what the website say, and they say
- 32:12you really do need to make a decision, and I
- 32:13would suggest everybody does make an informed decision. And they
- 32:18say you must register your decision, So if you want
- 32:20to opt out, you must register it and please inform
- 32:24your family. But I also want to make it clear
- 32:27on the next slide as well, if you decide not
- 32:30to opt out, it will be presumed that you are
- 32:35opted in, so it will be presumed organ donation law
- 32:41varies across all nations literally, so I've just got there's
- 32:46a phone number here if anybody wants to more information
- 32:50on the law and the opt out there's another phone
- 32:52number three hundred and three three two ninety four. But
- 32:56what is deemed consent? On the next slide it talks
- 32:59about consent and if you have not opted out, you
- 33:03will have deemed to have given consent authorizations and your
- 33:08consent will be presumed to be an organ donor. And
- 33:12there's a little tiny short video here on the law
- 33:15surrounding organ donation.
- 33:20Speaker 7: At the end of a rainbow you'll find a part
- 33:25of gold.
- 33:27Speaker 11: The law around organ donation in England has changed to
- 33:30a opt out system to allow more people to save
- 33:33more lives. But you still have a choice whatever you decide.
- 33:38She's important to tell your family and friends to give
- 33:41them the certainty to support your decision at a difficult time.
- 33:44Visit organ Donation dot NHS dot uk to find out more.
- 33:51Speaker 5: So, as I say, there's a lot to this subject,
- 33:53but I just want to highlight a couple of other stories.
- 33:56So the BBC around this story organ harvesting, trafficed his
- 34:00kidney and now forced into hiding. This is Daniel who
- 34:03was sent from Nigeria and who ended up at the
- 34:05Royal Free Hospital, my own training hospital for a life
- 34:08changing opportunity, only to find out that he'd been sent
- 34:11over to give a kidney so trafficking that this was
- 34:14the first prosecution back in twenty twenty three, so this
- 34:18is fact. Also, Trenton McKinley is thirteen and he suffered
- 34:23brain injuries after a tragic freak utility accident. But as
- 34:29soon as his parents had signed the forms for him
- 34:33to give his organs, he woke up. So I just
- 34:35wanted to highlight those couple of details. Because Professor Patrick
- 34:40Pulacino has said you cannot diagnose death, so I went
- 34:43to look at the code of practice for the procedure
- 34:45for diagnosis and confirmation of brainstem function. This is a
- 34:49massive document and probably for another news we'll go into
- 34:53it in more detail, but basically you need two doctors
- 34:56with more than five years experience. One has to be
- 34:58a consultant they need to work together. Some of the
- 35:01tests that they do are on the following slide and
- 35:04you can see the coma pathway as well. I think, yes,
- 35:08that's the one. If you just click on there's the
- 35:10coma pathway. As I say, it's a massive subject, but
- 35:15I want to highlight this trial that is going on
- 35:19because the body is kept in a very good condition
- 35:22prior to donation, so it's treated like a surgical procedure.
- 35:27People that are giving organs such as heart lungs, are
- 35:31left in intensive care and they're looked after very well.
- 35:34This is Professor John Dark from Newcastle. He's cardiothoracic surgeon
- 35:40and he's started the world's largest ever randomized control trial
- 35:45into organ donation in dead patients. So these are patients
- 35:48that have already been proclaimed dead and he has now
- 35:52decided that he wants to start a clinical trial to
- 35:55give these patients prior to their organs being harvested, a
- 36:00statin called simvastin. This has been funded one point three
- 36:05million pounds. They're trying to enroll twoy six hundred in
- 36:09inverted commas dead patients. Because what does it mean to
- 36:12be dead? Is my big question and there's a little
- 36:16video here, very very short video of what happens after you.
- 36:19Speaker 7: Die if you're registered to be an organ or tissue donor.
- 36:24After death, here's how the process works. When the time
- 36:27for donation comes, the donor is moved from the critical
- 36:31care unit to the operating theater. So it would be
- 36:33very similar to somebody undergoing an operation in terms of
- 36:37the way that we approach it, the professionalism in the
- 36:39operating room. We have anesthesia, we have the donor, surgical teams.
- 36:43At the end of the process, the machines that have
- 36:46kept the heart and the lungs going or stopped so
- 36:48that we can then remove the organ. So all the
- 36:50incisions are closed with great care, the same way that
- 36:53we would for someone having an elective operations that that
- 36:56they're cosmetically that things look fine, then they go to
- 36:59the morgue and then are released to the families within
- 37:02a relatively timely fashion, because people obviously have preparations for
- 37:05funerals and for bereaved families, it's a real silver lining
- 37:09in the context an Otherwise it'd be quite difficult that
- 37:11the last act of their loved one was to save
- 37:14the life of several other people. So I would anybody
- 37:17number one who's willing to be an organ donor should
- 37:20sign up to be an organ doner.
- 37:23Speaker 5: They don't take organs from dead people. But also the
- 37:28WEF are looking at using pickharts. It's medical first, they've
- 37:33all failed so far. It's called zeno transplantation. And there's
- 37:38the next slide. Just to tie this segment up is
- 37:40the ethics and welfare of animals with regards to zeno transplantation.
- 37:45And if all else fails, I guess three D printing,
- 37:49we might be relying on three D printing. But my
- 37:53concerns are really, is this going to put more pressure
- 37:56on families. The more the public give, the more they
- 37:58seem to want. Will we be encouraging euthanasia or assisted
- 38:03dying to take place in an operating theater? Much to talk.
- 38:06Speaker 1: About, Debby, Thank you very much for that. A lot
- 38:10to talk about. We'll talk about some of it in
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- 40:09on to the subject of New Zealand. A little while
- 40:14ago we had a lady that came to visit us
- 40:17from New Zealand. We had a fascinating discussion about what
- 40:20happened in New Zealand over the whole of the lockdown period.
- 40:27But it's raised all sorts of interesting topics. Let's just
- 40:32first have a look at this little clip with NHS England.
- 40:36Listen for the use of the applied psychology. But also
- 40:40right at the end, New Zealand gets a little mentioned.
- 40:45Speaker 12: When I look at the vaccine delivery. You sent a
- 40:49million letters to quite a wide population, but there were
- 40:53in fact only a total of three hundred and sixty
- 40:56one thousand MMR vaccines delivered, which suggests that it may
- 41:00not be a very successful program. And that's not necessarily
- 41:05the fault of the program. It's just that actually it
- 41:08may be the people are quite resistant, sadly to getting
- 41:13vaccination against again another nasty set of infections which have
- 41:17where the vaccine has transformed a lot of lives of
- 41:20people who would otherwise congenital rebel it for example virtually
- 41:24gone measles, a killer mumps or kaitus.
- 41:29Speaker 8: So they're going to be two more coming at you.
- 41:32You can at that would be a batch of five.
- 41:35Steve so Tunusian then.
- 41:37Speaker 12: Robert very quick.
- 41:39Speaker 13: I thought it was a great paper, General Associate, great paper.
- 41:44I actually was going to speak about lessons learned from
- 41:48communications in the past, and that's been covered. I want
- 41:50to shift the same kind of thread to education in
- 41:55the community, right, I mean, even with all of the
- 41:58stuff that's done, we often meet people with serious concerns
- 42:01about vaccination, and comms is one end of it, but
- 42:04it's sort of education with the community and how are
- 42:06you thinking about it, partnerships in that space, et cetera,
- 42:09et cetera.
- 42:09Speaker 9: Thank you, and then last you Robert, Yeah, so I
- 42:13thinks terrific program. And obviously we've learnt a huge amount
- 42:17through the COVID experience and vaccine hesitancy and all that.
- 42:20Two questions. One is so others have asked about sort
- 42:26of confidence and nervousness. I'm more interested in the complacency,
- 42:29which I think there probably is a lot of, particularly
- 42:32around COVID. So what's the messaging to address complacency? I mean,
- 42:39you don't want to scare people. On the other hand,
- 42:41you want to make people aware of the risk. Is
- 42:42that media or how you're doing that? The second question
- 42:45is just what's your ambition in terms of vaccination rates
- 42:50in the over sixty fives for example. I mean you
- 42:52have a target in mind.
- 42:54Speaker 8: So then you've got five comments or questions and you
- 42:57can probably answer some of them as about rapragmatically, but one
- 43:02specific Steve might know either of the Steve, do we
- 43:05know what currently the flu is going through Asia's Asian
- 43:10So have we got any information about what might be
- 43:12coming away that I don't Actually I.
- 43:15Speaker 9: Haven't looked at that recently, Helen, you are going to
- 43:19New Zealand.
- 43:21Speaker 5: It was all about the COVID in New Zealand. No,
- 43:23I haven't heard this.
- 43:24Speaker 8: Yes too early, thank you, sir, Steve.
- 43:32Speaker 1: So what's coming our way? It's all about the COVID
- 43:35in New Zealand. Debbie, I'll just bring you on for
- 43:38a very brief comment on that before I make some
- 43:41other comments about what is coming from New Zealand.
- 43:45Speaker 5: Well, yes, New Zealand's a very interesting place, and our
- 43:49interview with dr Ursula Edgington actually brave New New Zealand
- 43:53where she was saying that it's a small population in
- 43:56New Zealand, things are often tested out first on that
- 43:59popular first, so if it doesn't work then it's no
- 44:02big deal. It hasn't cost a lot of money. Those
- 44:04were her words, not mine. And also what happens in
- 44:07the Southern Hemisphere because it's their winter now will always
- 44:10follow or all pretty much always follow in the Northern Hemisphere.
- 44:14So it's very much a case of keep your eyes
- 44:16on New Zealand, small population, island nation and everybody is
- 44:22always looking at the data. And let's not forget your
- 44:24cinder ad hearn and the lock up policies and the
- 44:28COVID policies was so hard and so stringent back in
- 44:32twenty twenty.
- 44:34Speaker 1: Indeed they were, and I suggest they're going to be
- 44:37worse in the future. Big thank you to the UK
- 44:39column viewer that sent an email saying to me, have
- 44:42a look at this document here. It is the New
- 44:45Zealand Pandemic Plan and it's a framework for action, two
- 44:50hundred and nineteen pages of amazingly detailed information, but it
- 44:55sets out the all of government measures to be taken
- 45:00to prepare for and respond to a pandemic. It updates
- 45:03the New Zealand Influenza Pandemic Plan A Framework for Action
- 45:08twenty seventeen. My goodness, this document is just incredible because
- 45:14it describes the utter closed down in control of society.
- 45:20Here are the contents which people can freeze and have
- 45:23a look at what's on screen. But this covers every
- 45:27single area of society, and it also includes every single
- 45:32government agency being used for surveillance, for lockdown, for the
- 45:38grouping up of people for vaccinations. It's truly incredible and
- 45:44the only way I could really get to the document
- 45:46if we just pop this one on screen. I won't
- 45:48let it run for long. But I thought the only
- 45:50way I can really show the scale of it is
- 45:52to take a little video of it. And here we
- 45:55see page after page after page scrolling down. This is
- 46:00all plans as how people are going to be informed, corralled, manipulated, injected,
- 46:08locked up. It is about the complete removal of people's
- 46:13rights and particularly people who dare to challenge what the
- 46:18government says is the necessary action for the pandemic. So
- 46:25I think I'm going to leave that one there, but
- 46:27it's a truly astonishing document. Will make sure that the
- 46:32we will make sure that the link for it is
- 46:35in the show notes. Now where does that take us?
- 46:39I think that brings you back in Debbi on the
- 46:43subject of pox.
- 46:47Speaker 5: M pos. I'm going to feel a bit like Brenda
- 46:50another one, but let's cost our mind back actually just
- 46:54quickly before I show you a few slides, because in
- 46:56July twenty twenty two, Ted Dross at the Double also
- 47:02called this again an international a public health emergency of
- 47:07international concern, and that one finished in twenty twenty three.
- 47:10That's when they were giving smallpox injections. So monkey pox
- 47:14flu like symptoms, fever, headache, and then you end up
- 47:19with some lesions and some blisters and you should avoid
- 47:23all physical contact, is what they say. But many people
- 47:27think monkey pox empos monkeys. Actually the origin of the
- 47:32reservoir is thought to be bats or rats, although it
- 47:34can infect monkeys. So just to clarify that, so if
- 47:38anybody else is looking at empox with suspicion. I can
- 47:42understand why, so I just want to remind you back
- 47:46to Maderna. I think we've got a slide of Maderna,
- 47:51which cemented a ten year partnership with the UK for vaccines.
- 47:55And this is relevant because Professor Jonathan van Tam you'll remember,
- 48:00is working for them now. So just remember that with Maderna,
- 48:03because on the ninth of August this year, Tedros invited
- 48:07empox vaccine manufacturers to submit dossier's for emergency evaluation so
- 48:13to get an emergency use listing. They wanted the manufacturers
- 48:18to apply as soon as possible, and the next slide
- 48:21will show you the invitation that the manufacturers were given,
- 48:25with details of how to submit to apply. And then
- 48:27literally one week after that, all of a sudden, Tedross
- 48:32out the who has announced that it's now empox is
- 48:37a public health emergency of international concern. And when I
- 48:42went on looked to look further into the article, it
- 48:45says that they've had one hundred lab confirmed cases of
- 48:48clade one B. Now we know that yesterday they announced
- 48:52that Sweden had found a case, but hearing the word
- 48:55clade just jogged my memory a little bit, so I
- 48:58went back to two thousand and eight, and I remembered
- 49:01this operation or this exercise clade X, which was a
- 49:05tabletop pandemic exercise, which was illustrating high level decisions and
- 49:10policies that the United States and the rest of the
- 49:13world would need to pursue to prevent another pandemic. They
- 49:17did it alongside Dark Winter and Atlantic Storm. How appropriate.
- 49:22But that's probably again for another new segment. So back
- 49:25to monkey pox. You'll be reassured to know that a
- 49:28new monkey pox vaccine has been tested in the UK,
- 49:31of all places, considering this comes from the Democratic Republic
- 49:35of Congo. So they you see the new monkeypox vaccine
- 49:39being tested, and when you went to look into it,
- 49:41you could see that it was a trial called Empower
- 49:45where they were looking for healthy volunteers. So I went
- 49:48to look at m Power and found out that Empower
- 49:52is of course Maderna. This is all to do with
- 49:54the Maderna UK strategic partnership, which is why the United
- 49:59Kingdom has been picked for this. So when I went
- 50:02to look at the trial itself, it's a randomized control group.
- 50:07You can see all the details there. It's a thirteen
- 50:10to fourteen month study of course this is going to
- 50:12be mRNA because Maderna are an mRNA company. Nine visits,
- 50:17three phone calls, three hundred and fifty participants, all coming
- 50:20from the UK. And of course we know that monkey
- 50:25pox or mpox is being targeted towards the gay community
- 50:30because they say that it can be picked up with
- 50:32bodily fluids sexually transmitted. And I just want to remind
- 50:38people that mRNA, the mRNA injection appears to wake up
- 50:42latent infections and latent disease. And today we see a
- 50:47rising gonorrhea and we also see antimicrobial resistance with that
- 50:52as well. So a lot going on with regards to
- 50:55sexually transmitted disease. And I have to say that a
- 50:59global health emergency would sure disrupt any elections that might
- 51:03be coming up, wouldn't it.
- 51:06Speaker 1: Absolutely. Do you want to make a little comment on
- 51:09your blog? We've got to a bit limage here.
- 51:12Speaker 5: Yes, Well, actually have a look at the blog. Is
- 51:14if you want to supplement your income, many people are
- 51:17actually signing up to clinical trials to supplement their incomes.
- 51:21And now we're going to be teaching children at a
- 51:24very early age, at the age of five, how to
- 51:26spot spot conspiracy theories, and there's a load more in
- 51:30there this week too.
- 51:31Speaker 1: Thank you very much for that comprehensive run through. So
- 51:35on one hand, the governments in UK, the US and
- 51:39governments in Europe are progressing the slaughter in the Middle
- 51:42East and in Ukraine as just two examples, but they
- 51:46say to their own public, to their own publics, you
- 51:49should trust us. Mark, Let's bring you back. Because of course,
- 51:53lots of manipulation going on around democracy in the States,
- 51:57and you've got a little segment here on the manipulation
- 52:01of elections.
- 52:04Speaker 4: Yes, Brian, A quick comment about Kamala Harris from earlier,
- 52:08all the media going all in for her despite the
- 52:12fact that she was the first to drop out in
- 52:14the twenty sixteen Democratic presidential library primary. Excuse me, the
- 52:19first to drop out in the Democratic presidential primary of
- 52:23twenty sixteen, and the polling showing her hitting incredibly high
- 52:28poll numbers is extremely bogus, ordering on fake. And soon
- 52:32I'll have some news on UK column about the pollsters
- 52:36themselves and their backgrounds. But going into voter GA voters
- 52:40organized for trusted election results in Georgia Garland. Favrito, who
- 52:44I've interviewed on the UK column before and we can
- 52:48put that interview link in show notes. He came out
- 52:51about twenty one days ago, about three weeks ago, and
- 52:54addressed the State Election Board of the State of Georgia.
- 52:59And there's Garland as he is giving the presentation. And
- 53:03this was an extremely pivotal presentation that he gave, and
- 53:08it shows how the news media is completely contradicting the
- 53:12actual sum and substance of that meeting. This quote from
- 53:15Garland spells out what he had to say to the
- 53:20state Election Board at the beginning of his presentation. This
- 53:23is Garland himself, the co founder of voter GA. I
- 53:26want to talk to you about the most important case
- 53:29in election board history. This is more allegations than all
- 53:34the other complaint complaints combined, since I have been attending
- 53:38election board meetings for twenty years. For twenty years, he emphasized,
- 53:43and viewers may recall on the interview that I did,
- 53:47he really exposes Georgia to be ground zero in proving
- 53:52that the twenty twenty elections were in fact stolen. Anyway,
- 53:57these are the main two points the election Board three
- 54:01weeks ago acted on as a direct consequence. Brian of
- 54:05Garland's presentation. I wrote these myself due to Garland's sixteen
- 54:10minute presentation. About twenty one days ago, the Georgia Election
- 54:13Board voted for memory card retention and reconciliation for a
- 54:19two year minimum, applying yes, it does, applying to the
- 54:23twenty twenty four presidential election and all the other down
- 54:26ballot races that will appear on the ballot. This adheres
- 54:30to both state and threaderal law and pertains to in
- 54:33person voting. Also on the second point, also due to Garland,
- 54:38the board voted in favor of a procedure to detect
- 54:41QR code errors that reject ballots and exist within the
- 54:46dominion computerized vote casting at vote counting system. These are
- 54:50really huge items. A memory card basically electronically think of
- 54:55a ballot box full of pieces of paper. A memory
- 54:58card is a digital version of that. So there's much
- 55:03more than meets the eye there. This is very significant. Meanwhile, however,
- 55:07the media is painting a completely different picture of that
- 55:11Georgia State Election Board meeting. The media is trying to
- 55:15say that the state Election Board ran at a bunch
- 55:18of new powers to about one hundred and fifty nine counties.
- 55:22I believe there is in the state of Georgia, and
- 55:25these new powers will empower each county, the officials in
- 55:29each county to endlessly second guess the election results and
- 55:34to upend and create chaos throughout the whole process. This
- 55:37is an NBC news item here, Georgia gives local officials
- 55:41new powers to investigate election results. And again they're trying
- 55:46to say that this is going to just throw the
- 55:48whole system into chaos. But here's what Garland said on
- 55:51that same slide in response to that news item. This
- 55:55is all a facade blaming Republicans. If Kamala Harris doesn't
- 55:59do well, then GOP or Republican meddling can be blamed.
- 56:03There is nothing new. Georgia law already has given counties
- 56:08plenty of leeway. So the media is exaggerating, if not
- 56:13outright fabricating, what that board meeting was about, and avoiding altogether,
- 56:19avoiding altogether what Garland had to say in his sixteen
- 56:22minute presentation and what the board did in response to
- 56:26what Garland, Favrito said. So this is just another news clip.
- 56:32I need not really go into it. Georgia gave local
- 56:35officials significant new powers over the certification of election results
- 56:39a move that could delay or derail future post elections
- 56:44certification processes came out of that same August seventh NBC
- 56:49news report. So it's completely skewing what happened at that
- 56:53meeting and misrepresenting the main thrust of what the board decided.
- 56:58Brian as in the Kamala Harri situation and now in
- 57:02this one, the media is completely using misdirection and sometimes
- 57:06outright fabrication on these very pivotal issues because Georgia is
- 57:11ground zero. Grad Raefensberger, the Secretary of State of the
- 57:15State of Georgia, is like the proverbial guy with the
- 57:18finger in the dike and the waters want to come through.
- 57:23So therefore Georgia is where this whole thing could blow
- 57:26wide open. And as goes Georgia, so goes the rest
- 57:30of the pivotal states from the twenty twenty election where
- 57:35all of this would come out. And how the Secretary
- 57:37of State has managed to control this so far to
- 57:41this degree is really amazing. But Georgia stands at the
- 57:45brink if Garland is fully successful of completely coming apart
- 57:50and having to completely admit the myriad, the myriad evidence
- 57:57of election tampering and theft in that state, and again
- 58:01that would implicate the other states as well, the pivotal
- 58:04states from that election, So this is a very pivotal issue.
- 58:07Will keep a very close eye in the state of
- 58:09Georgia to see if the Secretary of stake and keep
- 58:12the tide waters away. It'll be an amazing if you can.
- 58:15But we'll see what happens. So back to you, Graham.
- 58:18Speaker 1: Mark, thank you very much for that, and let's remember
- 58:21that the tide waters that you describe are really the truth.
- 58:24It's the truth that's going to come through that hole
- 58:27in the dam, and it's the truth that can do
- 58:29so much for us with so many problems that we face,
- 58:33not only within the Western societies but across the world.
- 58:37So we'll end the UK Column News there. I'd just
- 58:41like to say that as part of our special dedication
- 58:44for our viewers and listeners, Mike has come in from
- 58:47his holiday today in order to help run the studio.
- 58:50Stephanie unfortunately unwell, but we keep the show running for you,
- 58:55our UK column viewers, and what a wonderful group of
- 58:59people you are. Thank you very much for joining us today.
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