Latest / Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation / NFL Week 12 Main Slate | November 24, 2024 | DraftKings & FanDuel DFS Picks, Plays and Process
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- 0:04Speaker 1: All systems going clear for lifting. What's up number one?
- 0:36Speaker 2: Tyler Timberlin here aka Totagg and Tambo back for another
- 0:40Speaker 2: edition of the Sunday Main Show Here on the Ship
- 0:42Speaker 2: at Nation YouTube station.
- 0:44Speaker 1: Got Hoop got title here with me.
- 0:45Speaker 2: As always gonna break down Patrick Mahomes week, I mean wait,
- 0:48Speaker 2: never Mahomes. But we'll get there. But maybe but hoopsty
- 0:51Speaker 2: I'll bring you in first. Man, it's another week to
- 0:53Speaker 2: get back at it.
- 0:54Speaker 1: Ten games.
- 0:54Speaker 2: Is gonna break it all down as usual, go game
- 0:56Speaker 2: by game, first look overview all that and more.
- 0:58Speaker 1: What's going on, man? How you doing it?
- 1:00Speaker 3: Oh?
- 1:00Speaker 4: Yeah, not much obviously, Always excited to hop on talk
- 1:03Speaker 4: some main slate football with you guys, kind of go
- 1:05Speaker 4: through the slate game by game, see what we can
- 1:07Speaker 4: find in terms of this slate. Interesting, I'd say, like
- 1:12Speaker 4: a lot of good plays at running back. I feel
- 1:14Speaker 4: like that's been the case for a while. Not a
- 1:16Speaker 4: ton of value. It seems like that's kind of been
- 1:19Speaker 4: the case as well. Wide receiver is very difficult today.
- 1:23Speaker 4: I think you know, what you do at wide receiver
- 1:24Speaker 4: probably dictates the slate in terms of stacking in that
- 1:27Speaker 4: sort of thing, because not many like just stand out
- 1:31Speaker 4: guys that you absolutely want to play a lot of
- 1:33Speaker 4: tight ends. I think that we can look at high end,
- 1:36Speaker 4: cheap and then quarterback. Again, it always gets spread out
- 1:40Speaker 4: and we'll talk through it. But you know, difficult with
- 1:43Speaker 4: stacking like Anthony Richardson showing up as a good value
- 1:47Speaker 4: basically everywhere. But how do you play Anthony Richardson today?
- 1:50Speaker 4: And we'll talk through that. I think it's very interesting
- 1:53Speaker 4: talking point. Got like the Geno stuff. A lot of
- 1:56Speaker 4: people be on on Gino. They pass a ton. You know,
- 1:59Speaker 4: clear time gets in terms of who you pair him with.
- 2:02Speaker 4: So yeah, dynamics late and we'll break it all down
- 2:06Speaker 4: here for the next hour, hour and a half.
- 2:08Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll bring title. I'll bring it in here in
- 2:10Speaker 1: a second. I want to give a shadow.
- 2:11Speaker 2: He was first in too. We always get first in shadow.
- 2:13Speaker 2: But this is the thing, first in and first up top.
- 2:16Speaker 2: This week in the NBA streets, Sean Sullivan Junior says
- 2:18Speaker 2: Free Money Sunday shouting out title Momentum is growing at
- 2:21Speaker 2: shiping Nation, especially in the NBA streets. Another big night
- 2:24Speaker 2: last week, the late night crew was up with all
- 2:26Speaker 2: kinds of shippers and showdown. We had the top three spots.
- 2:29Speaker 2: I got a ticket to something. Our guy Scarface who's
- 2:32Speaker 2: in the chat, had a big night. But Sean won fifty.
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- 2:46Speaker 1: So shout out to Sean. Appreciate you man, and congrats
- 2:49Speaker 1: again on the huge week and just embracing the grind,
- 2:51Speaker 1: getting behind it and having a big one for yourself. Title.
- 2:53Speaker 2: What's going on, my man? How you doing free money Sunday?
- 2:55Speaker 2: Just like Sean said, oh yeah, free money Sunday.
- 2:58Speaker 3: Always doing good Sunday mornings for some football.
- 3:01Speaker 5: My initial thoughts were pretty much everything Hoop covered. I
- 3:04Speaker 5: think it's a very similar slate to what we saw
- 3:06Speaker 5: last week. Pretty concentrated at running back receivers, a couple
- 3:10Speaker 5: guys the mid five k range, but Valley is really
- 3:13Speaker 5: tough again, and I think stacking quarterbacks is pretty tricky
- 3:17Speaker 5: for a lot of people. There's not just one or
- 3:19Speaker 5: two that stands out to the rest. So I think
- 3:21Speaker 5: ownership's relatively spread out outside of a couple running backs
- 3:25Speaker 5: and a couple of receivers there as well. But yeah,
- 3:27Speaker 5: I'm excited for the slate and then fan duel always
- 3:29Speaker 5: the Sunday night game helped you last week, and it's
- 3:32Speaker 5: another very good one that you cannot ignore as well
- 3:34Speaker 5: for the Rams and the Eagles.
- 3:36Speaker 2: Yeah, I had to go back and update the slate
- 3:37Speaker 2: plan over at Tripper Nation on the site just because
- 3:39Speaker 2: you know, that is a good one this week again.
- 3:41Speaker 2: And it's big ceiling, right especially people gonna be like,
- 3:43Speaker 2: I like Gino, I like jayde and Daniels, but how
- 3:46Speaker 2: can you not like something like aj Brown with no
- 3:48Speaker 2: Devonte Smith. You got Dallas Goddard there, who usually picks
- 3:51Speaker 2: it up when Davonte's out or anything like that, or
- 3:54Speaker 2: anybody's out for that matter. And then you got Jalen Hurts,
- 3:56Speaker 2: who probably has the biggest ceiling on the slate just
- 3:58Speaker 2: the way it goes. You got Barkley Williams, all those
- 4:01Speaker 2: Rams receivers where it's pretty condensed. So that is a
- 4:03Speaker 2: good game over on FanDuel, good call on that one. Whop,
- 4:06Speaker 2: What do you think of for this contest? Do you
- 4:08Speaker 2: have anything with that yet? If not, you can keep
- 4:09Speaker 2: thinking about it and just give your your first thoughts.
- 4:12Speaker 2: If you have anything on the Chiefs and Panthers, that's
- 4:14Speaker 2: gonna be the first one.
- 4:15Speaker 4: Yeah, so I think, I kind of think. I mean,
- 4:17Speaker 4: we're what twelve, this is Week twelve, So we got
- 4:19Speaker 4: a lot of you know a lot of shows under
- 4:21Speaker 4: our belt over here at ship in Nation. You know,
- 4:23Speaker 4: this show, other shows. But let's let's take a trip
- 4:26Speaker 4: down memory lane. It's got to be related to this season,
- 4:29Speaker 4: this NFL season. None of the jokes from last year
- 4:31Speaker 4: are applicable. You can't do the wheelchair thing anymore. That
- 4:34Speaker 4: was last season, not this season. So favorite memory so
- 4:37Speaker 4: far we'll say this show. I mean, if it overlaps
- 4:41Speaker 4: into other shows, that's fine, but favorite memories from from
- 4:44Speaker 4: this this show, this season.
- 4:46Speaker 1: And Katy knows the joke? Yeah, who does crush on FanDuel?
- 4:49Speaker 2: By the way, Vandal's been my bread and butter these
- 4:51Speaker 2: last two seasons for whatever reason. I said last week,
- 4:53Speaker 2: like title mentioned, I said, I'll finally, you know, I
- 4:55Speaker 2: really like the Slate all play over there and almost
- 4:57Speaker 2: had a huge week, but had a big week overall.
- 4:59Speaker 2: I like the contest ideas, So we'll get everybody rolling
- 5:02Speaker 2: on that there was one more comment I saw, but
- 5:05Speaker 2: I guess I'll kick it to you whop. Just the
- 5:06Speaker 2: first game Chiefs at Panthers, and I was teasing it
- 5:09Speaker 2: off the top in the intro and I said a
- 5:11Speaker 2: pre show to you guys, I never play Mahomes, you know,
- 5:14Speaker 2: never Mahomes if there was ever a time. Though, this
- 5:17Speaker 2: is the tricky because there's only ten games on the slate.
- 5:20Speaker 2: It's by far the bet like really just a great
- 5:22Speaker 2: matchup all around. They have a twenty six point team
- 5:25Speaker 2: total and Kareem Hunt for good reason.
- 5:27Speaker 1: If you guys see the.
- 5:28Speaker 2: Stone is probably I think one of the most optimal
- 5:30Speaker 2: we've seen all season with this matchup, this spread, Pacheco
- 5:34Speaker 2: not being able to make it back yet this week.
- 5:36Speaker 1: So what's your thoughts on this game?
- 5:37Speaker 2: And I gave you shit for Mahomes last week because
- 5:40Speaker 2: I give everybody that way, but this week is.
- 5:42Speaker 1: Are you gonna get back in on it? And maybe
- 5:43Speaker 1: this is the time.
- 5:44Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I'm not gonna gonna get back in
- 5:47Speaker 4: on it. I guess when I think about the Chiefs team,
- 5:49Speaker 4: I okay, So one spot where definitely can can come
- 5:52Speaker 4: on and take the l Totally fine with taking the
- 5:55Speaker 4: owls where they're applicable as the Lions. You know, I've
- 5:57Speaker 4: been saying that the Lions are fine winning these ugly
- 6:00Speaker 4: out type games, and that definitely wasn't the case. Last
- 6:04Speaker 4: week fifty two started thinking about it a little bit
- 6:06Speaker 4: more with the Lions, like, is it Ben Johnson. You know,
- 6:10Speaker 4: obviously he's going to be the top head coach pick
- 6:12Speaker 4: basically after this season. Is it him like getting himself
- 6:16Speaker 4: even more potentially on the radar and wanting to put
- 6:18Speaker 4: up these points. I don't know. But with the Chiefs,
- 6:21Speaker 4: I feel very good in that assessment that they are
- 6:23Speaker 4: okay winning the ugly type of games. Winning twenty seven
- 6:27Speaker 4: to seven. They've already proven themselves. They've been they've won
- 6:30Speaker 4: super Bowls, like they have nothing else to really prove
- 6:32Speaker 4: at this point. And that's obviously why Kareem Hunt is
- 6:35Speaker 4: showing up as such a solid play. The prices is cheap.
- 6:38Speaker 4: No Pacheco. There was some talk that Pacheco might be in,
- 6:41Speaker 4: but Hunt's going to be the most popular guy on
- 6:45Speaker 4: the slate. I think it is a pretty pretty fair assessment,
- 6:48Speaker 4: and rightfully so, I get the leverage stuff you can go,
- 6:52Speaker 4: you know, Mahomes to Hopkins, Mahomes, to Kelsey. I've endorsed
- 6:56Speaker 4: it a few times this year, just not going to
- 6:59Speaker 4: be endorsed it today. I will have some Hopkins, I
- 7:03Speaker 4: will have some Kelsey. Obviously, I think Kelsey's really good play.
- 7:06Speaker 4: But Kareem Hunt is obviously the main focus, main focal
- 7:09Speaker 4: point here for the Chiefs. I do want some of
- 7:12Speaker 4: the Chiefs Defense as well. They're expensive. A lot of
- 7:15Speaker 4: people are looking to save that defense, and there are
- 7:18Speaker 4: chief defenses. Chiefs D is the most expensive, I believe
- 7:22Speaker 4: at thirty nine hundred. So like a hunt to hunt
- 7:25Speaker 4: with Chiefs Defense, I think is interesting. Yes, Hunt's going
- 7:28Speaker 4: to get a lot of ownership, but Chiefs Defense won't
- 7:30Speaker 4: because they're super expensive. So good with that. On the
- 7:34Speaker 4: Panthers side, I know, like Adam Thielen's coming back, like
- 7:37Speaker 4: there's just I don't know this. Jonathan Brooks, guy's playing
- 7:41Speaker 4: Hubbard still expected to get decent ownership. It's looking like
- 7:44Speaker 4: we're showing. So we're showing like four. I'm guessing it's
- 7:49Speaker 4: higher than that, to be honest with you, But I'm
- 7:51Speaker 4: not going to be on any Panther stuff. So for me,
- 7:55Speaker 4: it's simple Chiefs Defense, Hunt Kelsey Hopkins about it.
- 8:00Speaker 2: Yeah, I do like the especially the leverage play in
- 8:03Speaker 2: Kelsey even both sites. I mean, on FanDuel you can
- 8:05Speaker 2: get down to the schoonmakers of the world. We'll talk
- 8:07Speaker 2: about all that. And on DraftKings of course you can too.
- 8:09Speaker 2: But just noting it is he could have, like especially
- 8:12Speaker 2: on DraftKings fifty eight hundred, he can have a nine
- 8:15Speaker 2: for one oh nine and one game and that doesn't
- 8:18Speaker 2: mean anything for Mahomes. It would probably hurt Hunt, depending
- 8:21Speaker 2: Hunt could still have a good game. Both of them
- 8:23Speaker 2: could get there and you fill out two slots with
- 8:24Speaker 2: it and still not need Mahomes.
- 8:26Speaker 1: But I do think that's interesting title. How are you
- 8:28Speaker 1: handling this spot for the Chiefs?
- 8:29Speaker 2: And I laughed when Hoop said Panthers because I was
- 8:31Speaker 2: just waiting for him to say absolutely nothing, because there's
- 8:34Speaker 2: just nothing going on on that side.
- 8:35Speaker 1: It's tough to make a choice. What's your thoughts?
- 8:38Speaker 5: Yeah, Panthers one of the easier fades on the slate
- 8:40Speaker 5: the Chiefs. How you got to do it? Click Mahomes
- 8:42Speaker 5: game log and I'm not going back to that. I mean,
- 8:44Speaker 5: the dude never wins the slate. I'm on board with you.
- 8:48Speaker 5: And yeah, I mean ten and half point favorite. It's
- 8:50Speaker 5: like they're up fourteen, They're totally fine running the ball,
- 8:53Speaker 5: and you play Mahomes.
- 8:54Speaker 3: Is it Hopkins, is it Worthy? Is it Kelsey? Next thing?
- 8:57Speaker 5: You know, it might be Watson, Jude Judobah Gray. I
- 9:00Speaker 5: just like Kreem Hunts and Kelsey, and I'm not messing
- 9:03Speaker 5: with d Hop. It's been disappointing after his big showdown game.
- 9:06Speaker 5: Worthy can always get there when you compare his projection
- 9:09Speaker 5: to others in his range, great leverage, I'm both. I
- 9:12Speaker 5: guess de Hop and Worthy Jacobe Meyers Sotton two popular
- 9:15Speaker 5: plays right in that range. The problem is Worthy's floor
- 9:18Speaker 5: is I mean, I guess legit zero one, two, like
- 9:21Speaker 5: really really low, which can absolutely burn you on the
- 9:24Speaker 5: main slate. Yeah, he has the upside, but they just
- 9:27Speaker 5: have so many weapons on that and ten and that
- 9:29Speaker 5: point Favorite, So I think just hunting Kelsey for me
- 9:32Speaker 5: and Kelsey's gonna get a decent amount of ownership.
- 9:35Speaker 3: The price is great when.
- 9:36Speaker 5: We get to like the brock powers of the world
- 9:38Speaker 5: Trade McBride, I do think those are interesting pivots, to
- 9:41Speaker 5: be honest, that I think I like a little more
- 9:42Speaker 5: at lower ownership too.
- 9:43Speaker 3: But yeah, Kelsey Hunt, that's it.
- 9:45Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that.
- 9:46Speaker 2: Call it you too, because later on when you get
- 9:47Speaker 2: to it, especially if Abdullah picks up steam or something.
- 9:49Speaker 2: Now that's the same thing, but on a cheaper play
- 9:52Speaker 2: and then a pivot like a double pivot off of
- 9:54Speaker 2: Hunt off of Abdullah over too, and you can play
- 9:56Speaker 2: Hunt with Bowers or something like that as a way
- 9:59Speaker 2: to get different people are playing Hunt and Abdullah. My
- 10:01Speaker 2: guy Rob says, if it seems like a mahomes day,
- 10:03Speaker 2: it's not a mahomes day. It's probably true, but like
- 10:06Speaker 2: I said, if there was one spot to see it happen,
- 10:08Speaker 2: it would be more for the leverage than him actually
- 10:10Speaker 2: coming through. It's just you know, they are probably going
- 10:12Speaker 2: to put up those points. It's a really easy matchup
- 10:14Speaker 2: for them. But the note isn't just don't whine if
- 10:18Speaker 2: Kareem Hunt gets there, like, don't be surprised. He's literally
- 10:20Speaker 2: the most optimal we've seen I think all season on
- 10:23Speaker 2: the Stone. Maybe there's been maybe it was like Bucky
- 10:25Speaker 2: Irving or Rashad White, whichever guy it was that one week,
- 10:28Speaker 2: and we'll get to them shortly too, But just.
- 10:30Speaker 1: That when you see it that's something. And then somebody said,
- 10:33Speaker 1: we don't show the stone for the last game, the
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- 12:07Speaker 2: I'll bring it back to the regular. We got the
- 12:09Speaker 2: chat up. Let's go to game number two title and
- 12:11Speaker 2: I'm gonna stay with you because to your boy Jay
- 12:14Speaker 2: Jefferson and another guy like my my Mahomes previous stake
- 12:17Speaker 2: there is this guy gonna show up this week when
- 12:19Speaker 2: absolutely nobody really wants them? Like, I see some ownership,
- 12:23Speaker 2: but I don't even know if that's gonna get there
- 12:24Speaker 2: with all the other options and ways that people are going.
- 12:27Speaker 5: Yeah, first of all, I want to mention this because
- 12:29Speaker 5: it's a fair point by Eric, like who's gonna separate
- 12:31Speaker 5: at QB? He if I knew, I'd be a millionaire
- 12:34Speaker 5: more than likely. But B, it's like this twenty quarterbacks
- 12:37Speaker 5: on the slate. I expect someone is gonna get twenty
- 12:40Speaker 5: five plus or something like that, and we haven't been
- 12:42Speaker 5: seen mahomes do that and what feels like years.
- 12:45Speaker 3: So that's the thing there. Who's it gonna be?
- 12:47Speaker 5: I wish I knew, But this game, I'm banking on it.
- 12:50Speaker 5: It's gonna be neither of these quarterbacks. I'm definitely not
- 12:52Speaker 5: playing Cale Williams. It has been tough scenes for him,
- 12:55Speaker 5: and then you play him, it's like what past catcher
- 12:57Speaker 5: is coming along?
- 12:58Speaker 3: Is it Keenan? Is it a doing?
- 13:00Speaker 5: And say, I'm not worrying about that. Side Vikings is interesting.
- 13:04Speaker 3: I don't know. Man.
- 13:05Speaker 5: My inhile thought was Jefferson. It's been so tough. The
- 13:08Speaker 5: main thing is like we talked about last week. I
- 13:10Speaker 5: finally jumped off. It actually worked. Still owes me a
- 13:12Speaker 5: lot of money this year. The running back position is
- 13:15Speaker 5: just so strong in that eight k range with a
- 13:18Speaker 5: chain with McCaffrey, mainly those two. I guess a lot
- 13:22Speaker 5: of those six k running backs are pretty strong too.
- 13:24Speaker 5: But even if you want David Montgomery's of the world
- 13:27Speaker 5: Gibbs of the world, I think there's a lot of
- 13:28Speaker 5: strong plays up there and receivers tough in the fact
- 13:32Speaker 5: you have to play three and a lot of those
- 13:34Speaker 5: guys like that is where the values coming from. The
- 13:36Speaker 5: five k's you can go double tight end. But the
- 13:39Speaker 5: long story short building Jefferson teams is uncomfortable. He's gonna
- 13:43Speaker 5: be low owned plus one ten to score eighty receiving
- 13:46Speaker 5: yard prop. I mean what he needs to score at
- 13:49Speaker 5: least one, probably needs one hundred and twenty on the
- 13:52Speaker 5: through the air. If he's only getting one touchdown, I'm
- 13:55Speaker 5: indifferent to it. I really don't love much of this game.
- 13:57Speaker 5: It's just Jefferson. He does leverage a little bit defense
- 14:00Speaker 5: that's gonna get some ownership. And I will say I'm
- 14:02Speaker 5: going back to TJ. Howckets and Ashley was gross last time.
- 14:06Speaker 5: So then if I'm going HOWK, I'm find one offing
- 14:09Speaker 5: Jeffer Hawk. But if I'm going both, I might as
- 14:11Speaker 5: well throw a one or two percent Donald in. So
- 14:14Speaker 5: I don't know, I'm gonna let you guys lean me
- 14:16Speaker 5: one way or the other, kind of like two of
- 14:18Speaker 5: last week, I'm on the fence on this side, no
- 14:20Speaker 5: bears for me.
- 14:21Speaker 2: Yeah, I found the one lineup where it was like
- 14:22Speaker 2: Donald Jefferson Hawk or whatever, and I was like, okay,
- 14:25Speaker 2: into the one of the cues on DK.
- 14:27Speaker 1: But that's like it. I'm not gonna hold them up
- 14:28Speaker 1: and put them out there.
- 14:29Speaker 2: Just was you know, this was sneaky for me, you know,
- 14:32Speaker 2: looking at it on the stone again, you guys don't
- 14:33Speaker 2: have it up there now, but just to give it away,
- 14:34Speaker 2: it was a sneaky game.
- 14:35Speaker 1: I saw that.
- 14:36Speaker 2: And then I don't know who if I want to
- 14:38Speaker 2: get your take because these guys like more odoons A.
- 14:41Speaker 2: They're popping up a little bit and all projections ours included.
- 14:44Speaker 2: But again transferring from both sites and looking on FanDuel especially,
- 14:48Speaker 2: it seems like everybody's putting at least one of them in.
- 14:50Speaker 1: I'm not interested in Caleb Williams. I like the Vikings D.
- 14:52Speaker 2: I like the Hawk call more. If you're picking one
- 14:55Speaker 2: offs here, I know people like Bears D. I'm fine
- 14:57Speaker 2: with that on DraftKings, especially at just twenty five hundred.
- 14:59Speaker 1: But did you see.
- 15:00Speaker 2: Anything that you like with this Dj Moore Roma dun
- 15:03Speaker 2: say any of those guys on the Bear side.
- 15:05Speaker 4: Uh, not a ton? Like I ran my team's you know,
- 15:08Speaker 4: started building yesterday and like some of these guys are
- 15:11Speaker 4: are sneaking in my one to fifty, like at small
- 15:13Speaker 4: percentages like a Dune say Keenan Allen a little bit,
- 15:16Speaker 4: and I'm fine with that, but there's no way I'm
- 15:18Speaker 4: going to go like overweight because they are getting a
- 15:20Speaker 4: little bit of ownership, So I'm fine if they get
- 15:23Speaker 4: into my teams. I'm not actively seeking to get exposure
- 15:26Speaker 4: to any Bears. Actually, my favorite favorite player on the
- 15:29Speaker 4: Bears is the defense. Twenty five hundred punt price tag
- 15:33Speaker 4: can kind of make a lot of a lot of
- 15:34Speaker 4: things work, so I guess Bears defense would be my favorite.
- 15:38Speaker 4: Not opposed to some of these Bears guys getting in
- 15:41Speaker 4: if needed because they are cheap, but I'm not actively
- 15:43Speaker 4: trying to put Bears into my lineups today, so out
- 15:47Speaker 4: on that side, on the Viking side, like, yeah, the
- 15:50Speaker 4: Jefferson thing has been pretty frustrating. I don't know. To me,
- 15:54Speaker 4: it's pretty clear if you've been playing them, I think
- 15:55Speaker 4: you stick with them and play them like I've been
- 15:57Speaker 4: playing them a little bit again in my one to fifty.
- 15:59Speaker 4: If I was handbuilt, he's getting nowhere close to my lineus.
- 16:01Speaker 4: If I'm doing making ten teams and I'm building them,
- 16:05Speaker 4: you know, one by one each one hand build, like
- 16:09Speaker 4: I'm not playing them. But in one point fifty, if
- 16:11Speaker 4: I can just put like you know, five or six
- 16:13Speaker 4: percent in without sacrificing much else in my lineups, like,
- 16:17Speaker 4: I'm fine with that. I've been doing it. I'm just
- 16:19Speaker 4: gonna stick with it. Hasn't really hurt me, i'd say,
- 16:21Speaker 4: because I haven't taken like a massive overweight approach. But
- 16:25Speaker 4: just to get a little bit of him, I think
- 16:27Speaker 4: is fine. Favorite play for sures Hockinson forty two hundred.
- 16:30Speaker 4: I think it's a really good price tag. He's not
- 16:33Speaker 4: going to be overlooked. But there's three clear spends at
- 16:36Speaker 4: tight end. Kelsey Bowers McBride a bunch of cheap options
- 16:40Speaker 4: Hockinson's kind of somewhere in the middle, and like he
- 16:44Speaker 4: has ten to eleven target upside and a lot of
- 16:47Speaker 4: times he can bird those as well. So clearly definitely
- 16:49Speaker 4: my favorite play. The running backs not much interest. Acres
- 16:53Speaker 4: are starting to get more work, you know, Aaron Jones.
- 16:56Speaker 4: The sixty four price tag looks nice, but won't be
- 16:59Speaker 4: going there, know Donald. So just to summarize Jefferson, I'm
- 17:04Speaker 4: going to continue playing. It is tough on FanDuel. I
- 17:06Speaker 4: will say those everyone's priced way up. It is hard
- 17:09Speaker 4: to get Jefferson over there. So maybe not on FanDuel,
- 17:11Speaker 4: but good with him on DK. Hockinson I like, probably
- 17:14Speaker 4: my favorite playing this game the Bears wide receivers. If
- 17:17Speaker 4: they get into my team's cool, it'll be a underway
- 17:20Speaker 4: to approach. I'm fine with that. And then Bear's defense.
- 17:22Speaker 2: Yeah, and even again, obviously, if Jefferson smashes the slate,
- 17:25Speaker 2: it's nice to have him with Donald for sure, but
- 17:27Speaker 2: there is an opportunity or a possibility you could still
- 17:30Speaker 2: get away with it, and I never have a problem.
- 17:31Speaker 2: Like we've seen Jefferson rack up seven for one fourteen
- 17:34Speaker 2: or something in the first half. He's racked up one
- 17:36Speaker 2: hundred yards in the first quarter, Like this guy can
- 17:38Speaker 2: just get there on that alone. So if you land there,
- 17:41Speaker 2: I'm good with it. But I think Hoop nailed it,
- 17:42Speaker 2: like if you're handbuilding very tough click, like how do
- 17:44Speaker 2: you even get.
- 17:45Speaker 1: To that click? In some cases?
- 17:47Speaker 2: Shout out to Rossier just want to answer this quick
- 17:48Speaker 2: because it was a good call out. DeAndre Swift and
- 17:51Speaker 2: Keenan Allen noted overnight that they're going to be good
- 17:53Speaker 2: to roll in this game, and I like how Hoop
- 17:55Speaker 2: also said the part about just sometimes the optimizer will
- 17:58Speaker 2: just give you some of these or something, or if
- 18:00Speaker 2: you get a secondary stack that's like Hawkinson and Keenan
- 18:03Speaker 2: Allen or Romo Dunze, it's not like you begged for it,
- 18:06Speaker 2: but if you got it and everything else sort of
- 18:08Speaker 2: makes sense. I'm more than comfortable landing on something like
- 18:10Speaker 2: that and just seeing if you get a piece of
- 18:12Speaker 2: this game that that's what goes off. It's not that
- 18:14Speaker 2: you need Donald Jefferson or Caleb Williams. It might just
- 18:17Speaker 2: be those pieces in this spot title anything else you
- 18:19Speaker 2: want to add with that one man.
- 18:21Speaker 1: If not, you could take us to the Titans and
- 18:23Speaker 1: the Texans. The double t game.
- 18:25Speaker 5: Yeah no, I'm like if I had I won fifty
- 18:28Speaker 5: of the fan to always a three dollars, Like if
- 18:30Speaker 5: a Doonzay or Keenan I get one offs there, I'm fine.
- 18:33Speaker 5: I just in general, like most people, I assume watching
- 18:35Speaker 5: play ten or less, I wouldn't get to Chicago stuff there.
- 18:38Speaker 5: This next game is definitely an appealing one. Getting some
- 18:41Speaker 5: ownership in DFS Texans and Titans. In a dome Texans
- 18:44Speaker 5: eight point favorites, I'll start Titan sides because it's really easy.
- 18:48Speaker 5: Tony Pollard and Calvin Ridley, it's pretty much their whole offense.
- 18:51Speaker 5: Both are getting a decent bit of ownership, I guess
- 18:54Speaker 5: on both sides, and they're applied for eighteen points seventeen points.
- 18:57Speaker 3: That's interesting.
- 18:59Speaker 5: Again, what you're implied four doesn't necessarily mean like their
- 19:02Speaker 5: pricing with their offense, how much their target shair. There's
- 19:05Speaker 5: no Taji Spears, it's all Pollared work. Not much competition
- 19:09Speaker 5: for Ridley. I will say that Nick Westbrook, Akide Randy
- 19:12Speaker 5: Moss Junior though, keeps getting a job done. I will
- 19:15Speaker 5: keep not playing him. But yeah, you never know. I
- 19:18Speaker 5: think I don't know. I guess I'll let you guys
- 19:21Speaker 5: answer that.
- 19:21Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 19:21Speaker 3: I'm debating a max one Ridley Pollard.
- 19:24Speaker 5: I don't think I'm gonna do it because if I
- 19:26Speaker 5: do go that, they both can get there because they're
- 19:28Speaker 5: both fair price takes. Ridley can go nine for ninety
- 19:31Speaker 5: or whatever Poward can score. So I probably won't make
- 19:34Speaker 5: that rule. But I don't know how much many like
- 19:36Speaker 5: they're both getting ownership. Playing two Titans chalk in one lineup,
- 19:40Speaker 5: I wanted to tell a story and I would almost
- 19:41Speaker 5: for sure have a runback on the other side. Good
- 19:44Speaker 5: thing is two of my favorite plays on the slate
- 19:47Speaker 5: is Joe Mixon and Nico Collins. I don't love playing
- 19:50Speaker 5: them together, but it feels really tough to see one
- 19:52Speaker 5: of them not getting there. I guess you could throw
- 19:54Speaker 5: Tank Dell in there too at lower ownership, but man,
- 19:57Speaker 5: I mean Texans are gonna put up points.
- 20:00Speaker 3: Titans are more of a rushing for a run funnel,
- 20:04Speaker 3: but they're pretty good on both.
- 20:05Speaker 5: Actually, they're good against the run, said against the pass
- 20:08Speaker 5: if you're looking on the stone, and their paces bad.
- 20:10Speaker 5: But the thing is Texas are now healthy. Nico Collins
- 20:14Speaker 5: obviously last week, so tilting first play of the game.
- 20:17Speaker 5: I never will understand Lineman running downfield unless it's an RPO.
- 20:21Speaker 5: He did only play forty seven percent of snaps. I'm
- 20:25Speaker 5: expecting that to be normal this week another week. I
- 20:28Speaker 5: thought last week was going to be closer to normal
- 20:30Speaker 5: because they held him out the week prior. I'm in
- 20:32Speaker 5: on big Nico. He's five hundred less than Jefferson. And
- 20:35Speaker 5: that's also why, like I knew I couldn't jam Jefferson,
- 20:38Speaker 5: I'm going to be splitting that more.
- 20:39Speaker 3: And I do prefer the savings with Nico and.
- 20:42Speaker 5: Then Mixon over spending at running back in quotes, but
- 20:45Speaker 5: the chains of the world, I think the Caffrey's maybe
- 20:47Speaker 5: even a little higher owned would have definitely been higher
- 20:50Speaker 5: owed at Purdy was there. But you're spending way higher
- 20:53Speaker 5: than most are at running back, so you get a
- 20:55Speaker 5: little different build. And yeah, I mean everyone knows how
- 20:57Speaker 5: good Mixon's been this year, so really really individual strong plays.
- 21:01Speaker 5: I don't think I'm going Stroud. I'm not going well Levis,
- 21:04Speaker 5: but I'm gonna have a lot of Nico. I like
- 21:06Speaker 5: mix in Hollard Ridley and then you can of course
- 21:08Speaker 5: throw Tank down there too.
- 21:10Speaker 2: Yeah, I like the breakdown, the Nico thing, like you say,
- 21:12Speaker 2: even on forty seven percent of the snaps.
- 21:13Speaker 1: It was the twenty six yard catch too.
- 21:15Speaker 2: He sort of muffed it into the ground and didn't
- 21:17Speaker 2: quite get it where he could have had that. So
- 21:19Speaker 2: there was that, the seventy seven yard touchdown, all of that,
- 21:22Speaker 2: and then I think, like Nick says here, this kind
- 21:24Speaker 2: of like the sand thing Hoop said earlier, like have
- 21:26Speaker 2: you been.
- 21:26Speaker 1: Playing Westbrook and Keina?
- 21:28Speaker 2: I think you just keep your got free money you're
- 21:30Speaker 2: playing with. Don't go off now, But if you haven't
- 21:31Speaker 2: been playing him, really tough to jump onto somebody like
- 21:34Speaker 2: him and hope that it starts working in your favor
- 21:36Speaker 2: after that.
- 21:37Speaker 1: I like the Pollard call.
- 21:39Speaker 2: I don't know like if I would get both them anyway,
- 21:41Speaker 2: but if you know, or I'm with you, I don't
- 21:42Speaker 2: think I would set the rule title just the Pollard one.
- 21:45Speaker 1: I wonder if he can actually get that ownership.
- 21:47Speaker 2: When we see all these other running backs shake out,
- 21:49Speaker 2: I think it's about right what we have, probably right.
- 21:51Speaker 1: We got them around twelve percent. I could see twelve
- 21:53Speaker 1: to fifteen. I could see lower two.
- 21:55Speaker 2: I could see where people just say, you know what,
- 21:56Speaker 2: I'm not gonna go to that, especially when handbuildings, so
- 21:59Speaker 2: fifty eight hundred could up being a decent price there.
- 22:01Speaker 2: I don't mind the Stroud stuff, it's just it gets expensive.
- 22:04Speaker 2: It's another you know, the good news like you said
- 22:06Speaker 2: inside Fast Track, Nico Tank Schultz, guys like that Metchi,
- 22:10Speaker 2: But again it gets tricky. It's almost like I'm a
- 22:12Speaker 2: home spot or a Jordan Loves spot where you're trying
- 22:14Speaker 2: to figure out where to go.
- 22:16Speaker 1: Hoop, what do you got with this one? Titans Texans? Uh?
- 22:19Speaker 4: Yeah, I pretty much agree with a lot of what
- 22:21Speaker 4: title had to say. The issue I have with the
- 22:23Speaker 4: Titan stuff is basically what he laid out. I mean,
- 22:25Speaker 4: they're projected to score two touchdowns and you're looking at
- 22:28Speaker 4: two guys that are getting pretty substantial ownership, like Tony
- 22:32Speaker 4: Pollard because of the price tag at fifty eight, expected
- 22:34Speaker 4: to get all the work, Like I don't know if
- 22:36Speaker 4: I can get there, like with all these running back plays.
- 22:38Speaker 4: To me, he's got to outscore some big dogs on
- 22:41Speaker 4: the slate in really good spots, and like do I
- 22:44Speaker 4: want Pollard? It's like a nine point underdog over those
- 22:49Speaker 4: other guys and getting ownership too, Like I might just
- 22:53Speaker 4: not play Pollard on FanDuel. I like him a little
- 22:56Speaker 4: bit more just because you know that savings goes a
- 23:00Speaker 4: long way. But on DK at fifty eight hundred, like
- 23:03Speaker 4: he's gotta, you know, be up there with Kareem Hunt,
- 23:06Speaker 4: Brian Robinson Junior, James Connor, you know, relatively close to
- 23:12Speaker 4: even guys like Kenneth Walker. Like I just to me,
- 23:16Speaker 4: I'm fine, Like if Pollard beats me as a nine
- 23:18Speaker 4: point underdog, I think I'm good with that. Ridley some
- 23:22Speaker 4: of him would probably be underweight approach on Ridley stronger
- 23:26Speaker 4: play on FanDuel, I'd say because of the pricing. So
- 23:29Speaker 4: like I'm not thrilled with these Texans guys because they're
- 23:32Speaker 4: gonna get ownership. They're in a pretty bad spot as
- 23:35Speaker 4: far as I'm concerned. Like Texans defense is solid and
- 23:39Speaker 4: it's not like it's like super super cheap price tag.
- 23:41Speaker 4: So not thrilled with that side on the Texan side,
- 23:45Speaker 4: much more excited. I think Mixon is a phenomenal play
- 23:47Speaker 4: and love that he's priced up a little bit on FanDuel.
- 23:50Speaker 4: He's in the nine K.
- 23:51Speaker 3: Range DK at eight K.
- 23:54Speaker 4: A lot of people are gonna want to settle in
- 23:56Speaker 4: the upper fives or six k's. I think he could.
- 23:58Speaker 4: He could get squeezed a little bit, and I love
- 24:00Speaker 4: that because he's looked really really good this season, So
- 24:03Speaker 4: a lot of mix in if he's not going to
- 24:05Speaker 4: do it. I do have some interest though, in the CJ.
- 24:08Speaker 4: Stroud stuff because he's got Nico Collins back. Yes, it's expensive,
- 24:12Speaker 4: but you can make it work. This week got tanked
- 24:14Speaker 4: all really really low owned and then you guys know,
- 24:17Speaker 4: I love playing my boy tight end thirty five hundred dollars,
- 24:21Speaker 4: mister Dalton Schultz makes it, makes it all work, baby.
- 24:25Speaker 4: That's how you make the Stroud stuff work. You with
- 24:27Speaker 4: that thirty five hund oh tight end in there and
- 24:29Speaker 4: you're good to go. You can play whatever the hell
- 24:31Speaker 4: you want with it. So all jokes aside, I am
- 24:34Speaker 4: interested in the Stroud stuff just because outside of Nicocollins,
- 24:39Speaker 4: it's relatively inexpensive, Like Stroud at sixty five, like it's
- 24:43Speaker 4: probably where he should be on FanDuel he's like seventy
- 24:46Speaker 4: six mid seven, so and it's not going to take
- 24:49Speaker 4: a lot of exposure to get overweight on it. So
- 24:51Speaker 4: in on the full text and stuff and then potentially
- 24:55Speaker 4: fading or way under weight on like Pollard and Calvin Riddy.
- 24:58Speaker 4: I don't think I can get to Pollar at fifty
- 25:00Speaker 4: eight hundred on K, so I'll.
- 25:02Speaker 2: Say that, yeah, a couple of saving spots, like you
- 25:04Speaker 2: said on Fandel, It's way better for Pollard over there,
- 25:07Speaker 2: just because the value that you get out of it,
- 25:08Speaker 2: and then Nico Collins goes up to almost nine k
- 25:11Speaker 2: on FanDuel versus seventy six hundred. You know, the Schultz
- 25:14Speaker 2: stuff as jokes aside, like you said, but it does
- 25:16Speaker 2: cut into the ownership and the savings that you get
- 25:18Speaker 2: when you are stacking that side. So if you want
- 25:20Speaker 2: to get to Stroud Collins, great, but the best way
- 25:23Speaker 2: to cut into is one Stroud's not even getting a
- 25:24Speaker 2: lot of ownership at all, and then Schultz is getting
- 25:27Speaker 2: almost none as well. So when you plug that in
- 25:29Speaker 2: a round, Collins kind of shakes it up, and you
- 25:31Speaker 2: could run Ridley or Pollard, but I like Ridley on
- 25:33Speaker 2: the other side in that scenario, and they got to
- 25:35Speaker 2: pass it. The pace is bad for the Titans, but
- 25:37Speaker 2: the way it picks up quick is if these Texans
- 25:40Speaker 2: or they or the Titans gets scoring early and then
- 25:42Speaker 2: we see it breakout from there, so that could be
- 25:44Speaker 2: a thing, but the next game a lot more exciting.
- 25:47Speaker 2: Just to note, two hundred and thirty likes right now
- 25:49Speaker 2: two forty three. Actually it just updated and we're onto
- 25:53Speaker 2: the Lions Colts game. You know someone said it here
- 25:55Speaker 2: earlier though, this is the shout there a guy DJ
- 25:57Speaker 2: and six hundred watching them now over seven hundred watching
- 26:01Speaker 2: only two hundred and forty likes. A lot of donkey
- 26:03Speaker 2: punches to give out. So yeah, hit that like helps
- 26:05Speaker 2: us out a ton and we appreciate it. But who
- 26:07Speaker 2: I'm gonna stay with you because it's your Lions. And
- 26:09Speaker 2: there was a couple of comments in the chat outside
- 26:10Speaker 2: of the ones making fun of the moments from this season, saying,
- 26:13Speaker 2: you know these Lions, people just can't get them right right.
- 26:15Speaker 1: You go on them, it's a running game and it
- 26:17Speaker 1: spreads out.
- 26:18Speaker 2: You don't need everything you get you go off of them,
- 26:20Speaker 2: and then that you need everyone. And Dan Campbell stomps
- 26:22Speaker 2: on it, like you said earlier, So what are we
- 26:24Speaker 2: doing here this week with Lions at the Colt?
- 26:25Speaker 1: Looks like a good one.
- 26:26Speaker 4: Yeah, last week was, I mean I played them a
- 26:28Speaker 4: little bit, but not you know, not not enough and
- 26:32Speaker 4: I guess, you know, my my approach moving forward, I'm
- 26:35Speaker 4: gonna obviously, like I said, I took the l a
- 26:36Speaker 4: little bit on them wanting to win ugly games. Maybe
- 26:39Speaker 4: it's Ben Johnson wanting to, you know, put up these
- 26:42Speaker 4: big points to put himself even more on the radar
- 26:44Speaker 4: for the head coaching stuff. But I don't know, like
- 26:47Speaker 4: they're projected to score thirty, like when a team's projected
- 26:50Speaker 4: to score thirty actual points, like, it's probably foolish to
- 26:55Speaker 4: not like take an overweight stance on them. And it's
- 27:00Speaker 4: to last week where nobody's really getting much ownership on
- 27:04Speaker 4: this team. Aman Ras Saint Brown on DK We'll come
- 27:08Speaker 4: in with a decent chunk, but everyone else is probably
- 27:11Speaker 4: ten or below. Gibbs is probably around ten, Montgomery is
- 27:14Speaker 4: under that, Jamison Williams is under that. Laporta forty three
- 27:18Speaker 4: hundred probably under that, and Golf is under that. So
- 27:22Speaker 4: I think you just play them and it doesn't like
- 27:25Speaker 4: require a ton of ownership to have an overweight stance
- 27:28Speaker 4: on them. They're projected to score thirty points in a dome.
- 27:32Speaker 4: You know, I've said all season and I'll continue to
- 27:35Speaker 4: take the same l that I that I just I
- 27:37Speaker 4: keep just giving myself this l but I was wrong,
- 27:40Speaker 4: Like they are not a like they would win another
- 27:43Speaker 4: game if they can could, but they'll still push the
- 27:46Speaker 4: pace if it's available for him, which we saw last
- 27:48Speaker 4: week we saw in Dallas. I thought it was just
- 27:50Speaker 4: a one off Dallas situation where they wanted to give
- 27:52Speaker 4: Dallas the big fuck you. Clearly not the case because
- 27:55Speaker 4: they gave it to freaking the dead Jacksonville Jaguars last week.
- 27:59Speaker 4: So then actual points, Like, I think you just play him.
- 28:03Speaker 4: The interesting side though, is like Anthony Richardson, he's gonna
- 28:06Speaker 4: be popular, you know, big time upside regardless of game script.
- 28:12Speaker 4: Can play him naked if you want, but he does
- 28:15Speaker 4: have viable passing options. You can go to Pittman, you
- 28:18Speaker 4: can go to Downs if you do play him naked,
- 28:21Speaker 4: Like I think this is a good way to get
- 28:23Speaker 4: exposure to the Lions. Like, play him and then like
- 28:26Speaker 4: one or two Lions guys on the other side, right,
- 28:29Speaker 4: I think that's the way to maybe optimally play Anthony
- 28:33Speaker 4: Richardson today. So in these Richardson teams, pair him with
- 28:36Speaker 4: like a Monro Saint Brown and maybe like Laporta and
- 28:39Speaker 4: if this game does shoot out he finds it on
- 28:42Speaker 4: the ground twice. A Manra Laporta have big games, like,
- 28:46Speaker 4: there's a lot of ways this game could get there
- 28:49Speaker 4: from a fantasy perspective, like you can even compare him
- 28:52Speaker 4: with Pittman and downs and then play Lions on the
- 28:54Speaker 4: other side. So it's to me a very interesting I'd
- 28:58Speaker 4: say dynamic game for DFS purposes a lot of different
- 29:02Speaker 4: ways to go. But I will be on the Lions
- 29:05Speaker 4: stuff heavier this week. You know, made the mistake last week.
- 29:07Speaker 4: It doesn't take much to get way overweight on this situation.
- 29:11Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta call one thing out before title pops up.
- 29:13Speaker 2: Shout out to our guy Shaloob always crushing it, says
- 29:15Speaker 2: always GoF is a thing and you'll be happy to
- 29:18Speaker 2: know Shaloub's the birthday boy. He always loves talking about
- 29:20Speaker 2: the birthdays. Tim Patrick the speaking of a memory from
- 29:23Speaker 2: earlier this season, the radio special that who brought to
- 29:26Speaker 2: us from local local radio and Michigan It was his
- 29:30Speaker 2: birthday yesterday we seen the day before birthday narrative. Kittle
- 29:33Speaker 2: had a huge game the day after. Lots of that,
- 29:35Speaker 2: so maybe it is another Lion's day.
- 29:38Speaker 4: You're saying away golf because he typically they I didn't
- 29:42Speaker 4: see that.
- 29:43Speaker 1: That's true.
- 29:45Speaker 2: Well you now it should be always GoF for you
- 29:47Speaker 2: Shalob narrative and there you got to switch it up.
- 29:50Speaker 1: Man, sometimes you got to switch it up.
- 29:51Speaker 2: But before I go to title I do, I will say,
- 29:53Speaker 2: I really like that call that you just had hoop
- 29:56Speaker 2: with Richardson. I do like the passing options that I'm
- 29:59Speaker 2: stacking them up. So today I like Down's pittman a
- 30:01Speaker 2: Dona Mitchell, I try and make these things work.
- 30:03Speaker 1: That's fine.
- 30:04Speaker 2: But the call out you had so you go with
- 30:07Speaker 2: like a manra who does not need golf. He's like
- 30:09Speaker 2: the Jefferson we talked about earlier. He can catch you
- 30:12Speaker 2: nine balls one hundred and five in a touchdown, and
- 30:15Speaker 2: Richard Richardson could still smash golf, and then Laporta. You
- 30:18Speaker 2: gotta fill up the onesie position anyway, So why not
- 30:21Speaker 2: just do it that way and have Laporter do his job,
- 30:23Speaker 2: Jamison Williams do his job, and then Richardson just has
- 30:26Speaker 2: to beat golf. But by the way, you also get
- 30:27Speaker 2: a thousand dollars to spend elsewhere.
- 30:29Speaker 1: That's pretty good deal. So like that call out as well?
- 30:32Speaker 4: Go ahead, No, I'm just pointed this side. I know
- 30:35Speaker 4: you always interest in those out there, a.
- 30:39Speaker 1: Lot of phony.
- 30:40Speaker 2: Tony's in the industry, man out in dfs everything too.
- 30:42Speaker 2: So I think in general got to be on the
- 30:44Speaker 2: defense here today too. Lion's expensive, and we talked about
- 30:47Speaker 2: the ones earlier, right, the Chiefs, the Minnesota Vikings, all those,
- 30:52Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like Lions are right there
- 30:54Speaker 2: as well. And if you're not on Richardson, it's almost
- 30:56Speaker 2: like the Chicago one where if you land if you're
- 30:59Speaker 2: not on Minnesota, land on Chicago, they're twenty five hundred bucks.
- 31:02Speaker 2: I'm fine with it. It's not like you're protecting anything.
- 31:04Speaker 2: You're not on the Vikings. Maybe they show up at home.
- 31:07Speaker 2: Who knows, same thing goes here. If you just land
- 31:09Speaker 2: on Detroit you don't have Detroit pieces, maybe hope they
- 31:13Speaker 2: get a touchdown towards that thirty point total and thirty
- 31:15Speaker 2: seven hundred bucks.
- 31:16Speaker 1: So I think that's interesting as well.
- 31:19Speaker 5: This game's tough man four Colts O line banged up azelone.
- 31:23Speaker 5: We talked a little on the Friday Show. Detroit's defense
- 31:26Speaker 5: is banged up a bit. The problem is with the Lions,
- 31:28Speaker 5: is is a Montgomery Is it Gibbs is a j moo.
- 31:31Speaker 5: Is it Amenra? Is a Laporta? Is it an o Lineman?
- 31:35Speaker 5: If they all get one, is it enough at their
- 31:37Speaker 5: price sakes? Because they're getting up a little bit. Man,
- 31:40Speaker 5: it's tough. It's really tough. I do like the My
- 31:42Speaker 5: favorite approach is Richardson with one of downs Pittman, and
- 31:45Speaker 5: it's clearly downs is my favorite.
- 31:47Speaker 3: He's just really good at football. Pittman's Ben Gross.
- 31:50Speaker 5: It looks like Richardson's favorite target is downs, so it's
- 31:53Speaker 5: my favorite going Richardson downs and picking one. On the
- 31:56Speaker 5: other side, I think my favorite approach, or if I
- 32:00Speaker 5: that way, would probably be Montgomery. And that's because if
- 32:03Speaker 5: Lions actually go off, it's probably two of them coming
- 32:06Speaker 5: with how this game slows down a bit, feels like
- 32:08Speaker 5: it's Montgomery, or they do get ahead a little bit,
- 32:11Speaker 5: like who said, we've seen it multiple times where we
- 32:14Speaker 5: think that and then Amana still has a touchdown when
- 32:16Speaker 5: they're up thirty five or whatever. Man, this makes it
- 32:20Speaker 5: so tough, like even going golf and picking Laporta, Amenran
- 32:23Speaker 5: and then it's Gibbs in Montgomery and stuff.
- 32:25Speaker 3: So the ownership's low. You play a lot of teams.
- 32:29Speaker 5: It's a lot easier to get their shout out DJN
- 32:31Speaker 5: last week, I thought it was really sharp. If you're
- 32:33Speaker 5: in the big Guy Chad, he talked about it. He
- 32:35Speaker 5: played sixty teams, he only played three quarterbacks. He played
- 32:38Speaker 5: like three tight ends. And the reason he did that
- 32:40Speaker 5: he talked about. He had Drake May, there was Poor
- 32:42Speaker 5: and there's Pot Douglas, there was Henry Jamis, Judy na
- 32:45Speaker 5: joke who lies whatever. So many combos. Instead of making
- 32:48Speaker 5: one or two teams with that, he made multiple and
- 32:51Speaker 5: then he got more with combinations. I think that's something
- 32:54Speaker 5: you could do with the Lions. Do a twenty entry
- 32:56Speaker 5: max if you want a twenty dollars twenty dollars with
- 32:58Speaker 5: the Lions, instead of doing one twenty dollars single entry
- 33:01Speaker 5: to twenty one dollar twenty entry mats, jam the Lions
- 33:05Speaker 5: and just get every different combination. So I think that's
- 33:09Speaker 5: how I'd approach it, because it's really hard for me
- 33:11Speaker 5: to get to a single entry handbuild building these Lions.
- 33:14Speaker 5: I would prefer the chalkier, a rich side, then try
- 33:17Speaker 5: and get the run back there. I wanted the interesting
- 33:20Speaker 5: Someone mentioned Jonathan Taylor. If you look at the stone
- 33:23Speaker 5: he looks good. You're talking leverage. You get leverage off
- 33:26Speaker 5: of the Anthony Richardson stuff. Who's gonna be probably the
- 33:29Speaker 5: highest owned quarterback if Taylor gets there. That means Richardson's
- 33:32Speaker 5: probably not getting the goal line rushing touchdowns is JT.
- 33:35Speaker 5: So direct leverage there and then you can go amra
- 33:38Speaker 5: other side whatever you want. So I'm gonna play a
- 33:41Speaker 5: rich I'm gonna play downs. I'm gonna one off the
- 33:43Speaker 5: Lion stuff. I don't know how much stacking I'm gonna
- 33:46Speaker 5: get to the Lions stuff. And it is interesting. Three
- 33:49Speaker 5: guys favorite to score on the Lions. Gibbs minus one,
- 33:51Speaker 5: seventy five. I believe it was Montgomery is let me
- 33:55Speaker 5: get it for sure. I know Amen Rau was minus one.
- 33:57Speaker 4: Well you find that, I'll add on to a point
- 33:59Speaker 4: you up, because it's very important. Like if you are handbuilding,
- 34:02Speaker 4: it is tough. I mean you start, you go in
- 34:05Speaker 4: there and you're like, okay, who do I want? Gibbs
- 34:08Speaker 4: or Montgomery, A Monras, Saint Brown's expensive, Jamison Williams tough
- 34:12Speaker 4: to kind of squeeze in. So if you are handbuilding,
- 34:15Speaker 4: it is difficult, and I would you know, I definitely
- 34:17Speaker 4: struggle if I was handbuilding teams to get exposure to Detroit.
- 34:21Speaker 4: If you're an optimizer, much easier, if you're building one
- 34:23Speaker 4: hundred and fifty teams, much easier. I'm doing one hundred
- 34:25Speaker 4: and fifty today, so it's going to be much easier
- 34:27Speaker 4: for me to get these teams. But for me, if
- 34:30Speaker 4: I was handbuilding, my preferred route is definitely kind of
- 34:34Speaker 4: opposite of what you said, because I'm getting both sides
- 34:36Speaker 4: of the game play Anthony Richardson hope he gets it
- 34:38Speaker 4: on the ground twice, and you can get exposure to Detroit.
- 34:41Speaker 4: Guy picked one of the running backs, take aim Monross,
- 34:44Speaker 4: Saint Brown, take the Porta. I think it's that's the
- 34:48Speaker 4: way I would go about it if handbuilding.
- 34:50Speaker 5: Yeah, last time to touch on props minus one ninety
- 34:53Speaker 5: Montgomery minus one seventy five Gibbs, minus.
- 34:56Speaker 4: One thirty nuts, two of them, two of them right
- 34:58Speaker 4: around minus two hundred. Running back from the same team
- 35:01Speaker 4: right around minus two hundred is insane.
- 35:04Speaker 2: Yeah, and it doesn't always go through that way, but
- 35:06Speaker 2: obviously they have an idea. And when you're gonna have
- 35:07Speaker 2: a thirty point team total, that could definitely be a thing.
- 35:10Speaker 2: We've seen that I also might wonder too, just flip
- 35:12Speaker 2: flopping on it because obviously it helped me win some
- 35:14Speaker 2: money last week. But remember on the Mayo Show last
- 35:16Speaker 2: week when he was talking about how they might just
- 35:18Speaker 2: let Goff go off because of what had happened the
- 35:21Speaker 2: game before with all the interceptions. Maybe who Dan Campbell
- 35:24Speaker 2: does switch it back this week and say, you know what,
- 35:27Speaker 2: this matchup's easy.
- 35:28Speaker 1: Let's get after them.
- 35:29Speaker 2: We can crush him on the ground all game long
- 35:31Speaker 2: and just hammer it out. So even like your Richardson
- 35:33Speaker 2: call Richardson, something like a Montgomery or a Gibbs with
- 35:37Speaker 2: the porta and even leaving the amanrail to give you
- 35:40Speaker 2: more money up the middle. You know, there's a ton
- 35:42Speaker 2: of ways, like title said, that you can go with
- 35:44Speaker 2: this one, but it's one that I think you.
- 35:45Speaker 1: Want a piece of it.
- 35:46Speaker 2: Like the people talked in the chat about the Lions,
- 35:48Speaker 2: Fomo is real. It is, but it's because this team
- 35:51Speaker 2: puts up this team total in the first half. Like
- 35:53Speaker 2: that's what's happening. So you want to try and figure
- 35:56Speaker 2: it out. It's worth spending the time on. And just
- 35:58Speaker 2: one last point that you brought up, because that's the
- 36:00Speaker 2: key to ship deviser and having an optimizer under your
- 36:02Speaker 2: belt is even if you're only handbuilding and playing one lineup,
- 36:06Speaker 2: that's the key. You can go into shipdemizer, put in golf,
- 36:10Speaker 2: lock him in with some pass catchers, whatever you want
- 36:12Speaker 2: to see. If you're playing the golf side where it's
- 36:13Speaker 2: tough to handbuild, see twenty lineups and then say, okay,
- 36:16Speaker 2: if I'm picking one, I like this one. It has
- 36:18Speaker 2: other pieces. I like look off the stone, look off
- 36:21Speaker 2: those things. Make it make sense, and then use that
- 36:23Speaker 2: because it is extremely tricky, like you said, building a
- 36:26Speaker 2: handbuild with how expensive some of these Lions guys are
- 36:29Speaker 2: and then making it feel comfortable elsewhere.
- 36:31Speaker 1: So great, call it on that.
- 36:32Speaker 4: Anything else, Uh No, I mean I think it's a
- 36:36Speaker 4: very interesting game. I mean I'm not in on the
- 36:39Speaker 4: Jonathan Taylor stuff all that much, but I mean, you
- 36:41Speaker 4: notice we went through talked about this game and barely
- 36:44Speaker 4: mentioned his name, So like that is the ultimate leverage
- 36:48Speaker 4: in this game if you want exposure and you want
- 36:51Speaker 4: something like completely off the board, because again, this is
- 36:53Speaker 4: a play where I don't care what ownership sites are showing,
- 36:57Speaker 4: including ours, because it's going to be lower. It's going
- 36:59Speaker 4: to be lower than what anyone's showing and can guarantee
- 37:01Speaker 4: you that feels.
- 37:02Speaker 5: So similar to the Bills Colts couple weeks back when
- 37:05Speaker 5: James Cook and JT we talked about we're like onwing
- 37:07Speaker 5: some leverage and everyone else is going to others at
- 37:10Speaker 5: running back, but running back's really strong?
- 37:12Speaker 4: Did it?
- 37:12Speaker 1: Yeah? That's the only hard part, right.
- 37:14Speaker 2: Is if is it gonna be a Lions letdown? Because
- 37:17Speaker 2: kind of think that's how you need at least something
- 37:19Speaker 2: to work out where he gets there, and then could
- 37:21Speaker 2: it be the old like I would definitely wager, and
- 37:23Speaker 2: what are the odds on that title?
- 37:24Speaker 1: You might still have it up.
- 37:25Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor scores a touchdown today, they have a totally
- 37:27Speaker 2: five Yeah, okay, so I think that's a good bet.
- 37:30Speaker 1: I think he scores a touchdown. I don't know if
- 37:32Speaker 1: he scores a.
- 37:33Speaker 2: Couple of one yarders and then is that still needed
- 37:36Speaker 2: at seventy one hundred when we got some of these
- 37:38Speaker 2: other guys that can beat him even in raw points
- 37:40Speaker 2: for less money. But like you said, absolute leverage on
- 37:42Speaker 2: the slate, tough matchup. But if they if they find
- 37:45Speaker 2: a way to pull it off, they still have a
- 37:46Speaker 2: decent team. Total at home, so it's definitely a possibility.
- 37:49Speaker 1: Title. I'll go to you next one. Man, let's go.
- 37:51Speaker 2: It's a division game, Patriots at the Dolphins, and I
- 37:55Speaker 2: don't know a chan. I guess has been getting the
- 37:57Speaker 2: steam all week. I'm seeing some late stuff with Tyreek
- 37:59Speaker 2: steaming a little bit. But what are we doing here
- 38:01Speaker 2: with this Patriots Dolphins game?
- 38:03Speaker 1: What do you got on?
- 38:03Speaker 5: This? One one of my favorite sneaky games on the slate.
- 38:07Speaker 3: Man, the Stone kind of has it pretty similar.
- 38:09Speaker 5: I love the Dolphins stuff for a lot of the
- 38:11Speaker 5: same reasons as last week. Obviously, a chain's getting a
- 38:14Speaker 5: lot of ownership if you're on the stone. This Patriots
- 38:17Speaker 5: defense is not good. Dolphin's at home, and anytime it's
- 38:21Speaker 5: a chain. With Tua all the pass catching upside, he
- 38:24Speaker 5: got it on the ground last week as well. Just
- 38:26Speaker 5: so many ways to rack up a lot of points
- 38:28Speaker 5: really quickly. If you don't want to go a chain,
- 38:30Speaker 5: how do you get leverage?
- 38:32Speaker 3: Tua? Tyreek and John new Smith?
- 38:34Speaker 5: John new Smith is a complete beast eighty percent of
- 38:36Speaker 5: snaps last week by far. As high as I'm gonna
- 38:39Speaker 5: keep rolling him at a pretty actually solid tight end position,
- 38:42Speaker 5: We're going to talk on the other side quick Hunter.
- 38:44Speaker 5: Henry's one of the more popular tight ends other side
- 38:47Speaker 5: of that game. Like John New a lot. I like
- 38:49Speaker 5: Tyreek a lot. I mean he has all the upside
- 38:52Speaker 5: in the world. And that price take at seventy two hundred.
- 38:54Speaker 5: I love Jefferson, that's a big boy, savings nine hundred.
- 38:57Speaker 5: I like Nico too. Tyreek feels very very strong at
- 39:00Speaker 5: that price though, I'll throw Tua in there. Again, this
- 39:04Speaker 5: is slate. I don't love quarterbacks. If you go, you
- 39:06Speaker 5: can go a chain with Tua, can also go Toua, Tyreek,
- 39:09Speaker 5: John Hu. You can even play all three if you
- 39:11Speaker 5: really want. I don't think it's the craziest thing. Applied
- 39:14Speaker 5: for almost twenty seven points. Pretty high in pace as well,
- 39:18Speaker 5: so the Lottle stuff.
- 39:20Speaker 3: If you're going.
- 39:21Speaker 5: Toua, you of course can. He's very very low owned,
- 39:23Speaker 5: but man, it has been tough for him. And I
- 39:25Speaker 5: do think Johno's emergence in the offense has her wattle
- 39:28Speaker 5: a bit too. Whoop, and I talked about a little Friday,
- 39:31Speaker 5: So I love the Dolphins stuff and if I like that,
- 39:33Speaker 5: I want to like some of the other stuff. And
- 39:35Speaker 5: I do your Rimandre Colt last week didn't necessarily work out,
- 39:39Speaker 5: but the touches and the workload absolutely did.
- 39:42Speaker 3: At no ownership he has.
- 39:44Speaker 5: He's at twenty four touches twenty one to fifteen to
- 39:46Speaker 5: twenty three the past four games. Slightly slight dog to
- 39:50Speaker 5: score a touchdown this week, but he's in a running back.
- 39:53Speaker 3: He's not expensive at five to nine.
- 39:55Speaker 5: And who's around him Pollard, who I think is higher
- 39:57Speaker 5: on Kareem Hunts a billion times higher on Brian Robinson's
- 40:01Speaker 5: higher own James Connor for a little bit higher owned.
- 40:04Speaker 5: He has to get really really squeezed in that range,
- 40:06Speaker 5: can catch passes, get eighty percent of the snaps. I'm
- 40:10Speaker 5: gonna play some ramon j Stevenson. I like this Pat's
- 40:13Speaker 5: offense with Drake May. They actually moved the football. The
- 40:16Speaker 5: problem is there's a plethrough of receivers that they wrote
- 40:19Speaker 5: rotate in. They played Boots all the time. The dude
- 40:22Speaker 5: is booty, but he's always out there. So I'm going
- 40:24Speaker 5: to play some after that. Though Top Douglas rotates, Polk
- 40:27Speaker 5: rotates all that. That's why Hunter Henry's by far the
- 40:31Speaker 5: best because he doesn't rotate much, even though they do
- 40:33Speaker 5: run two tight end sets. Austin Hooper's most definitely involved.
- 40:38Speaker 5: I think I am going to play some Drake may
- 40:40Speaker 5: at fifty five hundred though. If I think Dolphins score,
- 40:42Speaker 5: I don't like many quarterbacks on the slates, and you
- 40:45Speaker 5: have really cheap stacks that you can go with it.
- 40:47Speaker 5: I'm going back to Boots a because he was on
- 40:49Speaker 5: the field almost one hundred percent of snaps. I thought
- 40:52Speaker 5: Bob Douglas was the most talented, and shout out to
- 40:55Speaker 5: you last week. He he're and saying Kendrick Bourne call.
- 40:58Speaker 5: He's only thirty six hundred two. So yeah, I mean
- 41:00Speaker 5: I've thought plenty, probably way more than people expected about
- 41:03Speaker 5: Dolphins Patriots. It's one of my favorite games on the slate,
- 41:06Speaker 5: and I'm gonna be playing a lot of it.
- 41:08Speaker 1: I like these games, man.
- 41:09Speaker 2: This is another one where again you expected did in
- 41:11Speaker 2: the first matchup of this go a little bit crazy
- 41:13Speaker 2: to it. Everyone was like, you know, of course, Patriots Dolphins,
- 41:16Speaker 2: as we all expect that.
- 41:17Speaker 1: I can't remember.
- 41:17Speaker 2: I thought it was earlier this season and it actually
- 41:20Speaker 2: had some scoring to it. But yeah, if they want
- 41:22Speaker 2: to keep the Dolphins off the field, they should keep
- 41:25Speaker 2: jamming it with Romandre twenty times and getting them four
- 41:27Speaker 2: targets and all that on FanDuel sixty four hundred DraftKings
- 41:30Speaker 2: fifty nine.
- 41:31Speaker 1: He's at least somewhat interesting to me, you know.
- 41:33Speaker 2: I like the may stuff, not as much as last
- 41:34Speaker 2: week maybe, But and the other thing is the Boutet ownership,
- 41:38Speaker 2: as you say, is looks like it's gonna be a
- 41:41Speaker 2: little bit more than I expected.
- 41:42Speaker 1: I thought people would move off it after it didn't work.
- 41:44Speaker 2: Out last week, but I kind of interested in going
- 41:46Speaker 2: back to him when others aren't as high on him.
- 41:48Speaker 2: And this game could end up having a bit of
- 41:50Speaker 2: back and forth and it can get sped up pretty quickly.
- 41:53Speaker 2: It's too a chan tyreek. John New's helped, you know,
- 41:56Speaker 2: other guys on the other side. You talked about a
- 41:58Speaker 2: Douglas Henry. This this one to pick up the pace.
- 42:01Speaker 2: Quick question before I go to you Hoop, just this
- 42:03Speaker 2: one here for title, and then I'll kick it to
- 42:04Speaker 2: you Hoop to start it.
- 42:05Speaker 1: If you had to pick.
- 42:06Speaker 2: Obviously you're allowed to play both, but if you were
- 42:08Speaker 2: separating them and going with one, which one do you
- 42:10Speaker 2: like better?
- 42:10Speaker 1: Title?
- 42:11Speaker 5: I like a chain because I do think he'll be
- 42:13Speaker 5: less owned and like the Chiefs can get there in
- 42:16Speaker 5: a billion different ways and eye test wise too. I
- 42:19Speaker 5: mean a chain's way better obviously the price take, but
- 42:21Speaker 5: I like the chain more and I do expect hunt
- 42:23Speaker 5: to be the highest zone.
- 42:24Speaker 2: Hon the slate hoop, you got a thought on this
- 42:26Speaker 2: one before you take us into your thoughts on this.
- 42:28Speaker 4: Game will be opposite. For me, I would rather fade
- 42:32Speaker 4: a chain because I'm playing the Dolphins passing game and
- 42:35Speaker 4: I know, like him, failing could create some leverage. So
- 42:38Speaker 4: for me it is it's gonna be. I'd rather fade
- 42:41Speaker 4: a chain, and I'm not playing the Chiefs passing game.
- 42:44Speaker 4: So that's my logic there. But if you're playing the
- 42:46Speaker 4: ownership game, it's opposite. Like you guys talked about.
- 42:49Speaker 1: So good good segue and need to talk about your
- 42:51Speaker 1: Dolphins here?
- 42:51Speaker 4: Yeah, go ahead, Yeah, back on him again? Who's on him?
- 42:53Speaker 4: Last week? I don't love quarterback like a title kind
- 42:56Speaker 4: of talked about to fifty eight hundred. You have, I mean,
- 42:59Speaker 4: very direct guys to pair them with Tyreek John U. Smith.
- 43:04Speaker 4: You compare him with the chain. He catches a lot
- 43:06Speaker 4: of passes. If you're fading a chain, it's a great
- 43:07Speaker 4: team to get exposure to and I'm in on the
- 43:10Speaker 4: Wattle stuff. I mean, it's a it hasn't been good,
- 43:12Speaker 4: don't get me wrong, but it is a bottom barrel
- 43:14Speaker 4: price tag now. I mean, he's as cheap as he's
- 43:16Speaker 4: ever been. Like, why can't it be Wattle. It hasn't
- 43:19Speaker 4: been at all this season, don't get me wrong. And
- 43:21Speaker 4: we're at like what we twelve? They did have injury
- 43:24Speaker 4: stuff with the quarterback and whatnot. But I'm gonna include
- 43:27Speaker 4: him in my playerpool. It doesn't take much. It's one
- 43:29Speaker 4: of those plays. If you're handbuilding, you probably don't get there.
- 43:32Speaker 4: But if you're playing a bunch of lineups like I
- 43:35Speaker 4: want some of him, if you're playing a bunch of Tua,
- 43:37Speaker 4: I think playing Wattle is something you should be looking
- 43:40Speaker 4: to do. But a lot of clear ways to build
- 43:43Speaker 4: with Tua. I mean again, you compare them with the
- 43:45Speaker 4: running back, you compare them with Hill, Wattle, John Hu,
- 43:48Speaker 4: multiple of those guys. It's not super expensive. Really, it's
- 43:52Speaker 4: the cheapest has probably ever been to play Tua stacks
- 43:55Speaker 4: with Tyreek being seventy two hundred dollars. So love that side.
- 44:01Speaker 4: Patriots side, not as interested as you guys, Like I'm
- 44:04Speaker 4: gonna play some of these guys. But I mean, Hunter
- 44:07Speaker 4: Henry just showing up as like the most popular tight
- 44:10Speaker 4: end scares me a little bit. Again, I'm gonna play
- 44:12Speaker 4: him on bull sites, but it's a little worrisome these
- 44:17Speaker 4: wide receivers kind of gonna mix them in. I mean,
- 44:19Speaker 4: I'm gonna have a decent bit of Booty who's been
- 44:22Speaker 4: absolute booty when he's on the field, but he's on
- 44:24Speaker 4: the field of lot, he's been Booty Cheeks when he's
- 44:27Speaker 4: on the field, you know, like one of those NBA
- 44:30Speaker 4: players that plays like thirty five minutes a game and
- 44:33Speaker 4: does like nothing, just you know, doing like wind sprints
- 44:36Speaker 4: up and down the court. That's kind of where we're
- 44:38Speaker 4: at with Booty Cheeks. But again, we don't have a
- 44:40Speaker 4: ton of value, so we can't be picky. I'll be
- 44:43Speaker 4: playing him. Uh Okay, great, I don't give a fuck
- 44:46Speaker 4: how you pronounce this guy's game name. To be honest
- 44:48Speaker 4: with you, I've probably a million.
- 44:50Speaker 3: Yeah, I've decided a chain a million times and it
- 44:52Speaker 3: is a chan but.
- 44:53Speaker 4: I yea same as Brandon Ayuk, which I do have
- 44:58Speaker 4: down now. I fucked that up for the last.
- 44:59Speaker 1: Like two That's a good memory. Actually, I know, we're
- 45:02Speaker 1: looking at some of the memories, but title real quick
- 45:04Speaker 1: on pronunciations.
- 45:05Speaker 2: The the YouTube chat was going off for this past
- 45:08Speaker 2: weekend's MMA card.
- 45:10Speaker 3: Oh it was insane.
- 45:13Speaker 2: Yeah, actually memory too from the what Golf Back in
- 45:17Speaker 2: the day we were doing those shows, the golf shows
- 45:19Speaker 2: and it was for what was it like live?
- 45:22Speaker 4: It was a live Yeah, we did the shows for
- 45:24Speaker 4: the living events right out.
- 45:25Speaker 2: Of the gate and who am I or something, and
- 45:28Speaker 2: like we were trying to look it up on YouTube
- 45:30Speaker 2: where like the AI person comes on and says it
- 45:32Speaker 2: with like the seven syllable breakout. But yeah, the MMA
- 45:35Speaker 2: card title, there was a lot of comments on YouTube
- 45:37Speaker 2: about that one.
- 45:38Speaker 1: Pretty good something.
- 45:41Speaker 4: Something Tom was a Chinese flip it too, like the
- 45:45Speaker 4: last yeah right, so it's like makes it even worse
- 45:48Speaker 4: even if you know how to pronounce it, you don't
- 45:49Speaker 4: know which one comes first.
- 45:51Speaker 5: Yeah, we got to move on from that week that
- 45:53Speaker 5: tournaments were not good last week, that's for sure.
- 45:56Speaker 1: John who Revenge Game was another one that got brought
- 45:59Speaker 1: up here May has been playing really good. Shout out
- 46:01Speaker 1: to Myron. I mean this has actually been a thing.
- 46:03Speaker 1: He's getting the points and that's why I said, if
- 46:05Speaker 1: you think it works out. It's just it's harder to
- 46:07Speaker 1: figure out.
- 46:08Speaker 2: And I should clarify to Hoop's point there too, while
- 46:11Speaker 2: I do like may I have to a hire in
- 46:14Speaker 2: the slate plan and I have two in more places
- 46:16Speaker 2: because it's what you said. I mean, if I'm not
- 46:17Speaker 2: playing my homes and trying to make all that stuff work,
- 46:20Speaker 2: even on a good week to do it, you know,
- 46:21Speaker 2: I'm playing two on Tyreek and trying to make that
- 46:23Speaker 2: work instead, and you can mix in. I know our
- 46:25Speaker 2: guy's scarface was interested in Waddle as well, especially on
- 46:29Speaker 2: FanDuel fifty nine hundred. It's also one of those plays
- 46:32Speaker 2: where if he gets there, people are gonna whine about it.
- 46:34Speaker 2: And it's like, if everyone's playing a Chan, or if
- 46:36Speaker 2: everyone who's not playing a Chan is going to a Tyreek,
- 46:39Speaker 2: how is Waddle not a good play it?
- 46:41Speaker 1: It doesn't mean it's gonna work out.
- 46:42Speaker 2: Good play going into the slate versus what the result
- 46:45Speaker 2: is have nothing.
- 46:46Speaker 1: They're not correlated.
- 46:46Speaker 2: It's just we're saying how somebody could be in a
- 46:49Speaker 2: good spot like Bourne was last week. Boute was value
- 46:52Speaker 2: for no reason. It was just because there was no
- 46:54Speaker 2: value on the slate. No one really liked the play.
- 46:57Speaker 2: And when you saw Taekwon Thornton get let go and
- 46:59Speaker 2: you so kJ Osborne scratched, you knew Bourne was gonna
- 47:02Speaker 2: step up for our you know right there for the
- 47:04Speaker 2: same price at zero ownership versus the other guy with
- 47:07Speaker 2: all the ownership. So gotta think Waddle could be in
- 47:10Speaker 2: that type of spot this week as well. Any anything
- 47:12Speaker 2: else to add for me either to be on this one.
- 47:13Speaker 4: Yeah, just the last piece for me, it would be,
- 47:16Speaker 4: you know, way more interested in the Patriots stuff over
- 47:19Speaker 4: on FanDuel, like the Savings does like a hell of
- 47:22Speaker 4: a lot more. Where they're pricing is tighter over there.
- 47:24Speaker 4: Drake May's under seven k. He's kind of, you know,
- 47:27Speaker 4: much cheaper than the like on DK, he's priced right
- 47:31Speaker 4: with some guys that I like a lot more. On
- 47:33Speaker 4: FanDuel he's under seven k, which provides nice value for
- 47:37Speaker 4: Mindre Stevenson in the six K range, and then Hunter
- 47:41Speaker 4: Henry at fifty two is kind of even cheaper. And
- 47:44Speaker 4: there it's similar ownership between the two sites, So if
- 47:47Speaker 4: you're playing both, like for me personally, like I probably
- 47:49Speaker 4: don't get a bunch of it on in terms of
- 47:52Speaker 4: the full stacks on DK, but on FanDuel, I'll probably
- 47:54Speaker 4: have I'll probably have quite a bit.
- 47:56Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that breakout. I'll stick with you.
- 47:58Speaker 2: Actually, hoop, here we go to the lights, are twenty
- 48:01Speaker 2: seven lights away, guys from bringing it up, and we
- 48:03Speaker 2: are starting the.
- 48:05Speaker 1: What is there here? One? Two three afternoon games.
- 48:08Speaker 2: We still got two left in the morning, so a
- 48:09Speaker 2: lot of games left actual only halfway, so that's awesome.
- 48:12Speaker 1: Keep it rolling with the likes.
- 48:13Speaker 2: Make sure you're subscribed to the channel almost to nine K,
- 48:16Speaker 2: where we are giving away the five hundred and forty
- 48:18Speaker 2: nine dollars six month all access with Shipdemizer membership to
- 48:22Speaker 2: some lucky winners. So hoop, I'll stay with you. It's
- 48:25Speaker 2: the Buccaneers at the Giants. The two pieces of news
- 48:28Speaker 2: overnight one neighbors gonna give it a go, so sounds.
- 48:31Speaker 1: Good for him.
- 48:32Speaker 2: And then there was original news out earlier yesterday on
- 48:35Speaker 2: Evans that he's going to play, but they may try
- 48:37Speaker 2: and limit him. And then overnight Rappaport and some other
- 48:40Speaker 2: guys came out with and said no limitations, no restrictions,
- 48:43Speaker 2: He's gonna be good to go at just seven K.
- 48:46Speaker 2: He's got a long rest off that hamstring injury. But
- 48:48Speaker 2: it is tricky playing some of these guys off these
- 48:50Speaker 2: hamstring injuries. What's your thoughts on this Bucks Giants game?
- 48:53Speaker 4: Oh, they clearly don't give a shit about hamstring injuries
- 48:56Speaker 4: because the guy could barely walk and they rolled his
- 48:57Speaker 4: ass out there and got him injured like with a
- 49:00Speaker 4: the first half. I guess if you played him, good
- 49:01Speaker 4: thing for you. You kind of touched down right out of
- 49:03Speaker 4: the gate. Yeah, exactly, So I'm I guess with that,
- 49:06Speaker 4: all that being said, I am going to play some Evans.
- 49:08Speaker 4: I mean, they have no one else to really pass
- 49:10Speaker 4: the ball to. Obviously Kate Oughton it's been good, but
- 49:13Speaker 4: Evans should be very low owned. I'm gonna have some
- 49:16Speaker 4: of him. I'll have some of Kate Otton as well.
- 49:18Speaker 4: On the buck side. This game, I just don't love
- 49:22Speaker 4: like on the Giants. Like these are these situations where
- 49:25Speaker 4: these quarterbacks, if you're using an optimizer, these four K
- 49:28Speaker 4: quarterbacks are gonna look very nice. They're gonna show up,
- 49:30Speaker 4: They're gonna get I don't know what, what's what ownership
- 49:33Speaker 4: are we showing? Do you still have that up to five.
- 49:36Speaker 1: Tommy DeVito there?
- 49:38Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought maybe a little higher. But whatever, I'm
- 49:40Speaker 4: not I'm just not doing it. I'm not playing. I'm
- 49:42Speaker 4: not gonna play neighbors. I'm not gonna play really anything.
- 49:47Speaker 4: Tyrone Tracy on Fanduels in that six k range. I
- 49:50Speaker 4: think he's playable there, but I don't know. This is
- 49:52Speaker 4: a quick game for me, you know, mostly a little Evans,
- 49:55Speaker 4: a little Otten and that's probably it real quick.
- 49:58Speaker 1: Who just on the other side, do you have an
- 50:00Speaker 1: opinion on the Bucky Irving verse for Shad White? Like
- 50:02Speaker 1: Draft they're both the Hunter.
- 50:03Speaker 2: There are a hundred bucks apart exact same way on
- 50:05Speaker 2: both Sites' one hundred dollars more for White on DraftKings,
- 50:09Speaker 2: it's one hundred dollars more for White on FanDuel.
- 50:12Speaker 1: Any thoughts between those two.
- 50:14Speaker 4: God, just tough because there's just so many good running
- 50:16Speaker 4: backs today, like just so many good running back plays.
- 50:19Speaker 4: I am personally not getting there. If I was choosing one, though,
- 50:22Speaker 4: it would be I don't know, put the names in
- 50:26Speaker 4: a hat and pull one out and play that. Dude,
- 50:30Speaker 4: I don't know. It's like I got I have nothing.
- 50:31Speaker 4: I don't even want to put something out there cause
- 50:33Speaker 4: I honestly have no idea.
- 50:35Speaker 1: Yeah, go collect with a couple of the double comments
- 50:37Speaker 1: here you know, the setup for Evans and then also
- 50:39Speaker 1: mentioned the sterling shepherd. Who else here shout out to
- 50:42Speaker 1: our guy Jake. He says this, I got a thought
- 50:44Speaker 1: on this.
- 50:44Speaker 2: In a second, we'll go there, Tracy on FanDuel who
- 50:46Speaker 2: you talked about.
- 50:47Speaker 1: Maybe a little better new location. By the way, haven't
- 50:49Speaker 1: heard of somebody watching us in their hunting blind. That's interesting.
- 50:53Speaker 1: Shout out to Adam. Got to give credit to that.
- 50:55Speaker 1: That's a nice little set up there. And then one
- 50:57Speaker 1: also they got.
- 50:58Speaker 4: The air pods in the headphones, so you don't scare
- 51:01Speaker 4: the deer away.
- 51:02Speaker 1: Right, That's right, I'm hoping.
- 51:03Speaker 3: So.
- 51:04Speaker 4: Uh.
- 51:04Speaker 1: The other thing too big driggs one of mine right here,
- 51:07Speaker 1: hoop the hoops face and he found out the ownership.
- 51:09Speaker 1: Remember golf? What was that Austin Eck wrote or something,
- 51:13Speaker 1: And you said.
- 51:14Speaker 4: Well, that started the showy thing that I still haven't done.
- 51:17Speaker 4: That was it? That was that was That was the
- 51:18Speaker 4: shoey bat, which it's got now. I think that kind
- 51:21Speaker 4: of bullshit because I swear like that increased his ownership.
- 51:27Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, it was.
- 51:28Speaker 2: It was a different time of the season, but that
- 51:30Speaker 2: was hilarious to face the reaction in the chair of
- 51:32Speaker 2: just going back that that was another.
- 51:34Speaker 4: That was a good one. That's one of the winners
- 51:36Speaker 4: because that was a classic right there. And I you know,
- 51:39Speaker 4: I have to pay this up, Like I know, I've
- 51:40Speaker 4: been dragging my feet on this. I would thanks What
- 51:43Speaker 4: is it Thanksgiving weekend? Right, I'm gonna have Thanksgiving show
- 51:49Speaker 4: before the Lions.
- 51:51Speaker 1: Game or that.
- 51:52Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe maybe I'll go I'm gonna do that. Okay,
- 51:56Speaker 4: maybe maybe it's Thanksgiving that I'll go in the driveway
- 51:59Speaker 4: and take one down like as we go live. I'm
- 52:01Speaker 4: not committed, not fully committing to that. Wait, wait, we're
- 52:04Speaker 4: doing it on one day? Yeah? Yeah, I'll think.
- 52:07Speaker 2: I'm recording on the day of before the Lions game.
- 52:10Speaker 2: Have somebody record you. We'll throw it in the discord
- 52:12Speaker 2: over at ship a Nation, and then if you're comfortable
- 52:14Speaker 2: and good with it, we put it out to the
- 52:16Speaker 2: public for everybody to see, just showing that you paid up.
- 52:18Speaker 1: Someone said earlier, and this is true. Great on paying bets.
- 52:21Speaker 2: I'm not sure if they know you personally, great on
- 52:23Speaker 2: paying bets, bad on paying up for punishing.
- 52:26Speaker 4: That is a guarantee that that's a very true statement.
- 52:29Speaker 4: If I lose a bet to you, you're getting paid a
- 52:31Speaker 4: s a p. I know I bet with Title before
- 52:33Speaker 4: he knows, you get paid right away.
- 52:36Speaker 3: And now go grab a drink, grab a shoe, let's
- 52:40Speaker 3: get it out right now. Who myself sits.
- 52:42Speaker 2: Down and just burn your whole esophagus up to right quick.
- 52:45Speaker 2: You don't give that one, But yeah.
- 52:48Speaker 1: I think there was some interesting takes here in the
- 52:50Speaker 1: chat just for this one.
- 52:51Speaker 2: But the de Vito thing, I'm gonna pick it to
- 52:52Speaker 2: you title and you can talk about both these sides,
- 52:55Speaker 2: but I guess that.
- 52:55Speaker 1: Would be someone interesting. The one thing I like with
- 52:57Speaker 1: the veto today Isteo Johnson. It's it's sixty nine hundred
- 53:01Speaker 1: dollars to play it.
- 53:02Speaker 4: Finally, on My Boy Week twelve, I gotten so much
- 53:05Speaker 4: shit for playing Theo Johnson and I am playing them
- 53:07Speaker 4: this week. I didn't mention I have a little bit
- 53:09Speaker 4: of them. I'm glad you said that.
- 53:10Speaker 1: Yeah, why not though?
- 53:11Speaker 2: Sixty nine hundred bucks for a quarterback, last I check,
- 53:14Speaker 2: you have to play a quarterback on DraftKings and a
- 53:16Speaker 2: tight end same thing.
- 53:17Speaker 1: Last I check, you have to play one that fills
- 53:19Speaker 1: it out.
- 53:20Speaker 2: You could play Evans to make it run back the
- 53:23Speaker 2: other side as a way to make this thing explosive
- 53:25Speaker 2: both ways. De Vito had some twenty point games. If
- 53:28Speaker 2: you just never know what the slate's gonna require, right,
- 53:30Speaker 2: there's ten games. It's tricky, you have to wait and see.
- 53:32Speaker 2: But you can build a dream team with de Vito
- 53:35Speaker 2: Theo Johnson. You don't have to play Evans. I just
- 53:37Speaker 2: threw him out there as an example, but if you
- 53:38Speaker 2: want to, that could sort of start it off, and
- 53:40Speaker 2: then you could fit whatever you want. If they do anything,
- 53:43Speaker 2: if they connect for a touchdown, man, it could be
- 53:45Speaker 2: all over.
- 53:46Speaker 1: So title your thoughts on this game.
- 53:47Speaker 2: Maybe I'm getting a little too hype for something that's probably
- 53:49Speaker 2: not gonna happen, but eighteen point team total at all?
- 53:53Speaker 5: Yeah, my puke stack is Drake May, so I can't
- 53:56Speaker 5: have more than more than one puke stack. I'm not
- 53:58Speaker 5: going to these giants nave as A one off would
- 54:00Speaker 5: be if anything, and that would just be Devido trying
- 54:03Speaker 5: to look at his number one option in Pepperham, which
- 54:05Speaker 5: I think could be in the cards.
- 54:06Speaker 3: A fair take.
- 54:07Speaker 5: Other side for the Bucks, I don't love it much either.
- 54:10Speaker 5: One off Mike Evans, I'm good with that. A lot
- 54:12Speaker 5: of narrative people talking about he's chasing the one K,
- 54:15Speaker 5: gonna come back with vengeance.
- 54:16Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 54:17Speaker 5: Sure, He's just a good receiver with really no other competition.
- 54:21Speaker 5: As far as the Rashad White Bucky Irving, I'm definitely
- 54:24Speaker 5: Bucky Irving and that's kind of just tailing the props,
- 54:26Speaker 5: but also looking at them being five point favorites, and
- 54:29Speaker 5: it feels like they're a lot more willing to use
- 54:32Speaker 5: Bucky when they're ahead, and then Rashad White more in
- 54:35Speaker 5: the passing and their trailing again, they both will most
- 54:38Speaker 5: definitely get in rushing prop, though Irving's almost twenty hours higher,
- 54:42Speaker 5: touchdown prop a little better.
- 54:43Speaker 3: He's plus one hundred. Now do we need him?
- 54:46Speaker 5: Definitely don't need him, but he's fifty three hundred, and
- 54:50Speaker 5: no one's really gonna go I don't think that low
- 54:52Speaker 5: at running back, and if they do, because Kareem Hunt
- 54:55Speaker 5: and Brian Robinson are a little more, if they do
- 54:58Speaker 5: go down there, I think it's going to be a
- 55:00Speaker 5: duel at four to three, So I don't.
- 55:02Speaker 3: Think anyone's going to go in that five k range.
- 55:05Speaker 5: I point favorites twenty three and play total good offense
- 55:08Speaker 5: and you look at the stone right here, perfect time
- 55:10Speaker 5: to pull it up. A pass defense for the Giants,
- 55:13Speaker 5: d rush defense. I'm going to play some Bucky Irving today,
- 55:16Speaker 5: Bucky Mike Evans neighbors one off. Nothing else in this one.
- 55:20Speaker 5: And I do want to ask someone came up, he said,
- 55:24Speaker 5: dude said he was in the up in Michigan. I
- 55:25Speaker 5: want to see where in the up. I've been up
- 55:27Speaker 5: there a couple of times, Hot and Hancock here, So
- 55:29Speaker 5: whoever wanted to let me know.
- 55:31Speaker 3: Where in the up they are?
- 55:33Speaker 4: The wedding that lives up there?
- 55:34Speaker 3: Yeah, Josh, yeah, yeah, yeah, good dude, So I want
- 55:38Speaker 3: to know were in the up you're at?
- 55:39Speaker 5: No, and then hop in the sauna and get ready
- 55:41Speaker 5: for the pre sweat to the actual sweat.
- 55:43Speaker 4: Don't stay as long as the dude that passed out
- 55:45Speaker 4: of Yeah, don't do that, staying there for twenty minutes.
- 55:48Speaker 4: One Jordan I pulled this up. I said, this is
- 55:52Speaker 4: what makes you do even more crazy shit is when
- 55:54Speaker 4: you're married.
- 55:56Speaker 1: The opposite they said, don't do it. We need your boys.
- 55:59Speaker 1: Just a yeah, shotgun, a beer makes it a whole
- 56:01Speaker 1: lot easier. That's pretty standard stuff.
- 56:03Speaker 4: The funny thing is like our little family I guess
- 56:06Speaker 4: family joke type thing is this is a quick story
- 56:08Speaker 4: and people will like this one, so it'll go fast.
- 56:10Speaker 4: But uh, I don't know when when this was bought.
- 56:13Speaker 4: I think it was my wife bought it, maybe for
- 56:15Speaker 4: her sister's bachelor att party. But it was a beer
- 56:18Speaker 4: bong with a huge fucking penis on the end. Seeing
- 56:22Speaker 4: that just a big dong, so like it's.
- 56:24Speaker 2: Like like a huge funnel that leads oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 56:28Speaker 2: so it's a beer bomb.
- 56:29Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a beer bomb, but just a massive
- 56:33Speaker 4: I'm not even joking. Like this thing was probably it
- 56:35Speaker 4: is probably like twelve inches and it's like double you
- 56:38Speaker 4: need two hands to get your double hand to get
- 56:41Speaker 4: beer dong.
- 56:42Speaker 3: Beer dog.
- 56:43Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I mean. That's why I think it
- 56:44Speaker 4: called it beer do whatever.
- 56:47Speaker 3: You can go grab that instead of the shoe.
- 56:49Speaker 4: That is that acceptable over the shoe.
- 56:51Speaker 3: Yeah, you can do that. That's a lot.
- 56:53Speaker 4: Yeah, the don bong is approved over the shoe bong.
- 56:58Speaker 1: If you want to ever be on un blast by
- 57:00Speaker 1: all means, people.
- 57:01Speaker 3: Hey, don't say that.
- 57:02Speaker 4: Let him go a lot that would that would be
- 57:04Speaker 4: difficult to get on the social media. Can you imagine
- 57:07Speaker 4: like down the road and yeah, the kids circling back
- 57:10Speaker 4: and seeing something like that. That would have to be
- 57:12Speaker 4: like a discord only type payment. But yeah, I have
- 57:18Speaker 4: access to the dong bong if if you want to
- 57:19Speaker 4: go that route.
- 57:20Speaker 1: Nicks had a good one too. This is the way
- 57:22Speaker 1: people get out of these punishments. I don't know who
- 57:24Speaker 1: you were ever this roll this way, but you know,
- 57:26Speaker 1: you pay your way out. And as mad as the
- 57:28Speaker 1: people are like yeah, but it's not fair, he didn't
- 57:29Speaker 1: do the punishment. They're like, but wait, you want to
- 57:31Speaker 1: pay for my thing? All right, Fine, I'm good with that,
- 57:33Speaker 1: and they just move on. But he said he just
- 57:35Speaker 1: gets out of it that way.
- 57:37Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't mind that route. I mean, like pay
- 57:40Speaker 4: pay money, dong bong shoey I mean yeah, I mean shoe.
- 57:46Speaker 4: It would be the last option for me. I'd rather
- 57:48Speaker 4: repay or do the dong bong to be honest.
- 57:52Speaker 3: Yeah, I got it, I responded to him. Awesome, love
- 57:55Speaker 3: love that.
- 57:56Speaker 2: Yeah, media man the screen or you don't want to
- 57:59Speaker 2: do that. I want my boys step up and do
- 58:01Speaker 2: that on discord. That'll be grapped up. I thought about
- 58:04Speaker 2: it at first, but no, just do it damn shoe
- 58:07Speaker 2: you and move on.
- 58:08Speaker 1: So the chat loves the thung bong. Man.
- 58:11Speaker 4: That's either way, whether or not I do it or not.
- 58:16Speaker 4: I gotta dig this. I don't know if it's if
- 58:18Speaker 4: it's here at my sister in law's house. I gotta
- 58:21Speaker 4: find that thing. Guys, we'll get it. I mean, it
- 58:22Speaker 4: is like a massive penis too. It's not just like
- 58:24Speaker 4: a little I mean probably twelve inches and you gotta
- 58:27Speaker 4: put you gotta have two hands around this.
- 58:30Speaker 2: Buddy said, didn't cisco and make a song about that,
- 58:32Speaker 2: the thong song with the dong bong.
- 58:34Speaker 1: This guy over here getting it done. We ain't doing
- 58:36Speaker 1: that one No, not not shipping nation, not Hoopster. We
- 58:38Speaker 1: can't do that. So all right, let's do these afternoon games.
- 58:42Speaker 1: What do we got here?
- 58:43Speaker 2: We got three one more morning game and then three
- 58:45Speaker 2: afternoon games. So making good time, making good time. But
- 58:48Speaker 2: we got cowboys at the commanders and hoop I'll stay
- 58:51Speaker 2: with you. Jaden Daniels, Brian Robinson Junior obviously picking up
- 58:55Speaker 2: some steam. Some guys there in mclaura and Noah Brown,
- 58:58Speaker 2: zach Ertz, who kind of reminds me the hunter. Henry
- 59:00Speaker 2: never gets it done but we always still try and
- 59:02Speaker 2: make him work because the price point. And then we
- 59:04Speaker 2: got schoonmaker, Lamb Dowdle some other guys on the other side.
- 59:08Speaker 1: What's your thoughts on this game?
- 59:09Speaker 4: It's kind of too good on the Yeah, Washington's obviously
- 59:15Speaker 4: in a good spot. Projected to score twenty eight points,
- 59:17Speaker 4: like four full touchdowns. There's not many spend up quarterbacks today.
- 59:22Speaker 4: Jaden Daniels kind of in a league of his own,
- 59:24Speaker 4: but he's kind of difficult, just like Anthony Richardson, like
- 59:27Speaker 4: how do you want to play him? Do you want
- 59:29Speaker 4: to pair him with a wide receiver? Do you want
- 59:31Speaker 4: to pair him with Ertz? It's tough to stack him,
- 59:35Speaker 4: but you know, I'm gonna have some stacks, you know,
- 59:37Speaker 4: him to McLaurin, him to know le Bron, and I'm
- 59:40Speaker 4: fine playing him naked or with like a Dallas guy
- 59:44Speaker 4: like we talked about with the Anthony richards stuff. But
- 59:46Speaker 4: I really like Brian Robinson Junior. The price tag fifty
- 59:49Speaker 4: six hundred, Like we've multiple touchdown upside. If it's not
- 59:53Speaker 4: Jayden Daniels, it could easily be him. The price is
- 59:57Speaker 4: very nice. So in on Brian Robinson, in on the
- 1:00:01Speaker 4: Washington Stacks. McLaurin know Noah Brown will get some ownership
- 1:00:05Speaker 4: because we don't have a ton of value at forty two.
- 1:00:07Speaker 4: Zach Ertz moderate ownership in on that side. On the
- 1:00:10Speaker 4: Dallas side, Rico on FanDuel, he's in that six k range,
- 1:00:15Speaker 4: pretty pretty cheap. Ceedee Lamb fine with a little bit
- 1:00:19Speaker 4: of him. I mean, obviously it's got to be volume based.
- 1:00:23Speaker 4: A little bit different situation with Cooper rushing there over
- 1:00:28Speaker 4: Dak and then Schoonmaker twenty five hundred. I mean they
- 1:00:31Speaker 4: use and I will say, like this could be stupid,
- 1:00:34Speaker 4: but I'm keeping the span Ford guy in there as well,
- 1:00:37Speaker 4: Like he was on the field a freaking ton, so
- 1:00:39Speaker 4: he'll be in my player pool as well. But Schoonmaker
- 1:00:43Speaker 4: at twenty five hundred just makes a lot of things work.
- 1:00:45Speaker 4: On the late Schoonmaker got ten freaking targets. Now, is
- 1:00:48Speaker 4: he going to get ten today? Probably not, But at
- 1:00:50Speaker 4: twenty five hundred he doesn't need ten and they're likely
- 1:00:52Speaker 4: playing from behind. Span Ford was out there a bunch,
- 1:00:55Speaker 4: he got five targets as well, So playing both these
- 1:00:59Speaker 4: guys obviously more Scoonmaker over span Ford, But overall, I
- 1:01:04Speaker 4: think it's a pretty good game. I mean, we have
- 1:01:06Speaker 4: a lot of a lot of players, a lot of
- 1:01:08Speaker 4: different ways to go. So kind of where I'm at.
- 1:01:12Speaker 2: This chat is still throwing me off. Technie comes right
- 1:01:15Speaker 2: away every from this year like that is amazing to
- 1:01:20Speaker 2: say that. And then somebody else said, please go to this.
- 1:01:23Speaker 2: Somebody said they're going to spot the rocket ship logo
- 1:01:25Speaker 2: for the dog ball.
- 1:01:26Speaker 4: No no, no, no, no, no no.
- 1:01:28Speaker 1: Logo with that. We can't be doing that either.
- 1:01:30Speaker 2: So we gave the chat ideas title I'll kick it
- 1:01:33Speaker 2: to you on this one. The you know, the chat's
- 1:01:35Speaker 2: mentioning this, I don't think it's the same to me
- 1:01:38Speaker 2: as like, I guess we can talk about it. But
- 1:01:40Speaker 2: when we had Judy over Tillman, it was a point
- 1:01:44Speaker 2: five projection. It was almost the same, yet the ownership
- 1:01:47Speaker 2: was huge disparity. We've had similar situations like this. We're seeing,
- 1:01:51Speaker 2: you know, fourteen to nine here on Robinson Junior, and
- 1:01:54Speaker 2: obviously if they're up huge with this type of lead,
- 1:01:56Speaker 2: you just expect them not to need Eckler. But is
- 1:01:59Speaker 2: there any scenari here where you can see a flip flop?
- 1:02:01Speaker 2: Because it is ten to one on ownership and I
- 1:02:04Speaker 2: don't fully disagree with.
- 1:02:05Speaker 1: I think that could be the case here today that
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: you're seeing twenty to two percent.
- 1:02:10Speaker 5: You can do it, It's not for me like I
- 1:02:12Speaker 5: wish it was in the afternoon slate and then you
- 1:02:14Speaker 5: could do it in a three game afternoon. My favorite
- 1:02:16Speaker 5: approach if you want to leverage Brian Robinson is going
- 1:02:19Speaker 5: Jade and Daniels in the passing game.
- 1:02:21Speaker 3: I'm not convinced he's gonna be thirteen percent.
- 1:02:23Speaker 5: I think a lot of people want to save Ish
- 1:02:25Speaker 5: at quarterback, so I could see that like seven eight.
- 1:02:28Speaker 3: But look at all the pass catchers under ten percent.
- 1:02:30Speaker 5: Daniels's plus one thirty five to score in his rushing
- 1:02:33Speaker 5: prop is thirty seven and a half yards with juice
- 1:02:35Speaker 5: on the over. How does Brian Robinson not get there
- 1:02:38Speaker 5: or Austin equally not get there. Jaden Daniels can do it,
- 1:02:40Speaker 5: and he has clear guys the pair Terry McLaurin, Noah Brown,
- 1:02:44Speaker 5: Zach Ertz. I'm good going Daniels, Noah Brown ERTs, Daniel's
- 1:02:48Speaker 5: just Noah Brown whatever it is. Obviously Terry's the most expensive,
- 1:02:52Speaker 5: but Daniel's expensive, No Brown, ERT's cheap. That doesn't break
- 1:02:56Speaker 5: your bank with the staff. You can run it back
- 1:02:58Speaker 5: with Ceedee Lamb my favorite run back. It's definitely just
- 1:03:00Speaker 5: him or scoon Maker. The Rico call on FanDuel was
- 1:03:04Speaker 5: a good one on DraftKings. It's similar to Bucky Irving
- 1:03:07Speaker 5: we just talked about right in that Kareem Hunt range
- 1:03:09Speaker 5: is leverage. I prefer Bucky because of the game script.
- 1:03:12Speaker 5: I don't love playing a running back as ten and
- 1:03:14Speaker 5: a half point dogs, but again better on FanDuel.
- 1:03:17Speaker 3: Ceedee Lamb still got peppered last week.
- 1:03:20Speaker 5: If they're trailing by ten all game or the spreads
- 1:03:22Speaker 5: like that should get it again. Scoonmaker when Ferd went
- 1:03:25Speaker 5: down ten targets was a beast. I liked individual pieces there.
- 1:03:30Speaker 5: I like Brian Robinson stuff on Commanders, but how I
- 1:03:32Speaker 5: would leverage it instead of Eckler as Daniel's passing game
- 1:03:35Speaker 5: and I'll be looking at him with mclaur and Noah
- 1:03:38Speaker 5: brown Ertz Max two.
- 1:03:40Speaker 3: I'd be fine with just one too because of his
- 1:03:42Speaker 3: rushing upside.
- 1:03:43Speaker 2: Yeah, like a lot of the ways you brokee that
- 1:03:45Speaker 2: one down, I'll go to hoop just in a second,
- 1:03:47Speaker 2: but just this one. You know, Schoonmaker, our guy Shaaloub
- 1:03:49Speaker 2: and I know that Chad immediately says, especially members over
- 1:03:51Speaker 2: at ship a nation that have.
- 1:03:52Speaker 1: The stone full time.
- 1:03:54Speaker 2: This is what Davis Allen looked like last week, just
- 1:03:58Speaker 2: heavily optimal at that price, not really getting the ownership
- 1:04:01Speaker 2: you thought, like we knew he'd get some because he's
- 1:04:03Speaker 2: obviously a punt play, but had the leverage.
- 1:04:05Speaker 1: It just didn't work out. But there's ways you can
- 1:04:07Speaker 1: make it work here.
- 1:04:07Speaker 2: And even if Daniels gets steamed up higher than thirteen
- 1:04:10Speaker 2: and a half McLaurin brown Er, it's these guys just aren't.
- 1:04:14Speaker 1: Coming with him. They're not people are playing Robinson. I
- 1:04:17Speaker 1: like this setup here more than trying to work out
- 1:04:20Speaker 1: the Mahome stuff I talked about earlier. I would just
- 1:04:23Speaker 1: do what you just said title, even if you want
- 1:04:24Speaker 1: to go just Noah Brown, run it back with Schoonmaker
- 1:04:27Speaker 1: and then real quick before I go to you hoop.
- 1:04:28Speaker 1: This is another one.
- 1:04:29Speaker 2: I don't have interest in Cooper Rush, but I do
- 1:04:32Speaker 2: think the fact that they threw it as many times
- 1:04:33Speaker 2: that I expect the same thing to be here does
- 1:04:35Speaker 2: make a case for a guy like Ceedee Lamb, even
- 1:04:38Speaker 2: by himself at seventy three hundred dollars, because that's you know,
- 1:04:41Speaker 2: it just could be ten catches for one hundred and
- 1:04:43Speaker 2: one yards and maybe he gets in the box and
- 1:04:45Speaker 2: you score a touchdown. But that's how I'm thinking about it.
- 1:04:47Speaker 4: What about you same? Yeah, I mean not playing Cooper Rush,
- 1:04:50Speaker 4: but the fact that they threw it fifty times is amazing.
- 1:04:52Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's what you want, and that's why
- 1:04:54Speaker 4: this game is very appealing. And that's why I'm going
- 1:04:56Speaker 4: to be higher on these Dallas pieces Dallas Pasca than
- 1:05:01Speaker 4: most than the field, because like, they have nothing to
- 1:05:04Speaker 4: play for, right if they're playing from behind, they're just
- 1:05:06Speaker 4: going to drop back and throw it. And that's that's
- 1:05:08Speaker 4: good for not only the Dallas side, but also very
- 1:05:11Speaker 4: good for the Washington side as well. So it just
- 1:05:14Speaker 4: makes the overall game more appealing and makes the pass
- 1:05:17Speaker 4: catchers for Dallas more appealing.
- 1:05:19Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that call. Did you have a take
- 1:05:21Speaker 1: on this one too?
- 1:05:21Speaker 2: That the chat was talking about the Robinson over on
- 1:05:25Speaker 2: FANDUL We've been talking with FanDuel all day talk about
- 1:05:27Speaker 2: an increase fifty six hundred on DraftKings obviously pretty optimal
- 1:05:31Speaker 2: for that reason, even with ownership, it's fine, but seventy
- 1:05:34Speaker 2: nine hundred on Fandal. We talked like three or four
- 1:05:37Speaker 2: guys in the six k range that you could get
- 1:05:38Speaker 2: it done.
- 1:05:39Speaker 4: Yeah, so like everybody, there's like three six k guys
- 1:05:42Speaker 4: that look under priced, but everybody else at the running
- 1:05:45Speaker 4: back position is like priced up to a pretty substantial point.
- 1:05:48Speaker 4: So I will force them in a little bit. If
- 1:05:51Speaker 4: you run an optimizer like you're not going to get
- 1:05:52Speaker 4: any I will force him in because I think he's
- 1:05:54Speaker 4: going to be very low owned and has multiple touchdown upside.
- 1:05:57Speaker 4: I mean they could score I mean Dallas defense is
- 1:05:59Speaker 4: terrib like they could score as many points as they
- 1:06:01Speaker 4: wanted today. So I will force him in at the
- 1:06:03Speaker 4: seventy nine because he's going to be very low owned
- 1:06:06Speaker 4: over there.
- 1:06:07Speaker 1: I should know too.
- 1:06:07Speaker 2: The reason his name is Cooper Rush is because he
- 1:06:09Speaker 2: can't pass. He might throw fifty of them, but it's
- 1:06:11Speaker 2: been bad if you watched it, like, it's not great
- 1:06:13Speaker 2: throwing from him. So just keep that in mind as
- 1:06:16Speaker 2: well the chat trying to make him work, I'd be
- 1:06:18Speaker 2: looking for secondary stacks, and I do want to call
- 1:06:20Speaker 2: out one. I don't try and run back an EO
- 1:06:23Speaker 2: hot takes or good calls last week with Bourne, but
- 1:06:25Speaker 2: I will play a little Turpin this week.
- 1:06:27Speaker 1: I like him at thirty three hundred. If you're not
- 1:06:29Speaker 1: on Lamb and you're not on.
- 1:06:30Speaker 2: Scoon Maker and you want to get a value play
- 1:06:32Speaker 2: in there, he can. He doesn't need to do much
- 1:06:34Speaker 2: at thirty three hundred. I have some interest in like
- 1:06:36Speaker 2: him with Brian Robinson as a way to cut completely
- 1:06:40Speaker 2: into his ownership.
- 1:06:41Speaker 1: So he's won.
- 1:06:41Speaker 2: I got another one in this next game title. Anything
- 1:06:44Speaker 2: else you want to talk about there? If not, you
- 1:06:45Speaker 2: could take us into this Broncos Raiders game to start
- 1:06:48Speaker 2: off the afternoon trio.
- 1:06:50Speaker 3: Yeah, nothing else in that game.
- 1:06:51Speaker 5: This game is pretty interesting in the fact of it
- 1:06:54Speaker 5: as two of the more popular receivers on the slates
- 1:06:57Speaker 5: and Courtland Sutton as we are showing twenty three percent
- 1:06:59Speaker 5: to Kobe Meyers twenty percent, and you look at the names, like, Wow, Jacoby,
- 1:07:03Speaker 5: Courtland Something is the two highest. Obviously that has a
- 1:07:06Speaker 5: lot to do with their prices. They're both wide receiver ones.
- 1:07:09Speaker 5: Bo Nicks has actually been balling. Something's been good. Meyer's
- 1:07:13Speaker 5: a little disappointing. I'm gonna play both of them, but like,
- 1:07:17Speaker 5: how excited am I?
- 1:07:18Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 1:07:18Speaker 5: I think there are clear pivots on both sides. Jacoby Meers,
- 1:07:21Speaker 5: brock Bauers, I mean, the dude's one of the best
- 1:07:24Speaker 5: tight ends, if not the best tight end in football already,
- 1:07:27Speaker 5: and Gardner Minchew loves them. I'm gonna keep playing brock Bauers.
- 1:07:31Speaker 5: Just watching the game last week, if you watch almost
- 1:07:33Speaker 5: all year, just Pep Pepper, Pepper good after the catch.
- 1:07:37Speaker 5: Love me some brock Bowers a mirror Abdula. Not often
- 1:07:40Speaker 5: you get a forty three hundred dollars starting running back.
- 1:07:43Speaker 5: The props are fine, he's plus one thirty five to
- 1:07:45Speaker 5: score rushing receiving prop fifty six and a half. The
- 1:07:48Speaker 5: problem is you're gonna you have to get running back
- 1:07:51Speaker 5: right like eleven from Abdullah today. I don't think will
- 1:07:54Speaker 5: be enough. Yeah, I don't love Abdullah much the more
- 1:07:58Speaker 5: I think about it. There's too many great names. I
- 1:08:00Speaker 5: think they're gonna score twenty five plus. A duel has
- 1:08:02Speaker 5: to do his job. This Raiders' offense is bad, probably trailing.
- 1:08:06Speaker 5: He's fine fine on fan duel as well, but I
- 1:08:09Speaker 5: don't think I'm gonna get too much there. I want
- 1:08:11Speaker 5: upside at running back. I'm not playing the trade talkers,
- 1:08:14Speaker 5: the turners of the world so I'm not playing Minshew,
- 1:08:17Speaker 5: so it's just one off Myers, Bowers, Abdullah Powers by
- 1:08:20Speaker 5: far my favorite to go Broncos side. I mean, man
- 1:08:23Speaker 5: bo Nicks. He's absolutely balling, there's no doubt about that.
- 1:08:26Speaker 5: And ownership isn't really coming. I think if the problem is,
- 1:08:31Speaker 5: if I talked about it last week, I forget who
- 1:08:33Speaker 5: is with But of all the Bonnicks ownership, what like
- 1:08:36Speaker 5: ninety nine percent are gonna go right to Parrot with
- 1:08:38Speaker 5: Courtland Sutton? Now if he's only five percent, I don't
- 1:08:40Speaker 5: really care about that too much. There is ways to
- 1:08:42Speaker 5: get difference. Can you double stack it? This de von
- 1:08:46Speaker 5: Valet guy, he's pretty good. He had a solid game
- 1:08:48Speaker 5: last week. I won't dare to mention the guy below
- 1:08:51Speaker 5: Sambo for night.
- 1:08:52Speaker 2: Tire happens, But that was twenty You said that because
- 1:08:54Speaker 2: if it was ninety nine percent Sutton with him last week,
- 1:08:57Speaker 2: somebody found the one percent to get me with little Jordan.
- 1:09:00Speaker 2: I like to call in the middle there that you
- 1:09:02Speaker 2: just talked about at thirty nine hundred keep rolling, But yeah,
- 1:09:04Speaker 2: I think there's some interest there.
- 1:09:06Speaker 3: Yeah, he was the second in teams in snaps last week.
- 1:09:09Speaker 5: He ran sixty eight percent little jord Humphrey only forty four,
- 1:09:12Speaker 5: Troy Franklin forty four, so after something, it is those
- 1:09:15Speaker 5: three relatively rotating.
- 1:09:17Speaker 3: In so they're all viable.
- 1:09:18Speaker 5: But Ballet looks like the guy that is Boone Nicks's
- 1:09:22Speaker 5: favorite and is out there the most. So yeah, if
- 1:09:24Speaker 5: I'm going bone Nicks, I do like that little double
- 1:09:25Speaker 5: stack there, and I'm not messing with these tight ends
- 1:09:28Speaker 5: really down there. Well, who scored like this Aitkins guy
- 1:09:31Speaker 5: or Atkins or something, some full back third string tight
- 1:09:34Speaker 5: end last week. If I'm not mistaken, yeah, Nate Atkins. Like, no,
- 1:09:37Speaker 5: I'm not messing the tight end room. It's mainly one us,
- 1:09:40Speaker 5: but I think I'll do some Nicks Sutton Ballet stuff.
- 1:09:43Speaker 1: Yeah, last game two, this came up quite a bit
- 1:09:46Speaker 1: the Washington d I know you were already passed this game,
- 1:09:48Speaker 1: but literally came up a bunch and then Keith Vape
- 1:09:51Speaker 1: really wanted to hammer it home here highest scoring defense
- 1:09:54Speaker 1: on own book and it says, so, yeah, I got
- 1:09:56Speaker 1: no problem with that too. If you go there another
- 1:09:57Speaker 1: way to get different, maybe with your Brian Robinson junior stuff.
- 1:10:01Speaker 1: Definitely like that. I agree with my guy Aaron Rasmus
- 1:10:04Speaker 1: this week he's back, You're You're definitely in the right chat.
- 1:10:06Speaker 1: But if we get to five hundred likes, maybe Ryan
- 1:10:09Speaker 1: will go through the Sunday Night Game. But we do
- 1:10:10Speaker 1: have a whole show that covers the Sunday Night Game
- 1:10:13Speaker 1: as well that comes out well before you see it happen,
- 1:10:16Speaker 1: so you can go to that as well. But hoop
- 1:10:18Speaker 1: anything else with this one.
- 1:10:19Speaker 2: I guess the one thing I will say before you
- 1:10:20Speaker 2: go into it is do we believe this?
- 1:10:23Speaker 1: Jacoby? This is so when you won the Millie.
- 1:10:25Speaker 2: It was with Josh Jacobs on The Raiders on a
- 1:10:28Speaker 2: week when everyone said he was gonna be this owned.
- 1:10:30Speaker 1: They said, oh, it's gonna be Josh Yay. You can't
- 1:10:32Speaker 1: play him at that ownership. He's a horrible play.
- 1:10:34Speaker 2: Came in at like six percent or seven percent, you'll
- 1:10:36Speaker 2: know the real number. And anyway, absolutely crushed for you
- 1:10:40Speaker 2: to ship the Millie. I feel like, you know, Jacoby
- 1:10:42Speaker 2: Myers is getting talked up and mentioned, but I don't
- 1:10:44Speaker 2: feel like people are actually clicking the button twenty one
- 1:10:47Speaker 2: percent of the time.
- 1:10:47Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know if he gets the twenty one,
- 1:10:49Speaker 4: but it will be something just because this is the
- 1:10:51Speaker 4: range everyone's coming to like, it's like very clear that
- 1:10:55Speaker 4: there's not a ton of value at this position, so
- 1:10:57Speaker 4: people feel good clicking that. I don't necessarily think it
- 1:11:00Speaker 4: to fifty one or twenty one, but it'll be something
- 1:11:03Speaker 4: just because of the range, because the ranges is popular.
- 1:11:07Speaker 4: I thought like bow Knicks would be way more popular
- 1:11:10Speaker 4: after last week and kind of surprised that the ownership
- 1:11:13Speaker 4: isn't really following based on the position. There's not a
- 1:11:17Speaker 4: ton of super appealing plays at the position. I thought
- 1:11:20Speaker 4: for sure he would be a popular play this week.
- 1:11:23Speaker 4: The fact that he's not has me pretty excited. So
- 1:11:25Speaker 4: I'm gonna be on bo Nicks and yeah, I mean
- 1:11:27Speaker 4: it is tough because when you pair him, it's likely
- 1:11:30Speaker 4: Sutton like he's been. Their connection has been great. But
- 1:11:34Speaker 4: like title said, if Bo next is really coming in
- 1:11:36Speaker 4: at just like five percent or potentially lower, like I
- 1:11:39Speaker 4: don't care if everyone's pairing him with Sutton, it's still
- 1:11:41Speaker 4: a relatively low owned combination. Velly or v What is
- 1:11:46Speaker 4: a Velly? I don't want to get the frenshie Fred
- 1:11:53Speaker 4: Jaccent to it or something.
- 1:11:54Speaker 1: But yeah, chat today too, so be careful appreciations.
- 1:11:58Speaker 4: Yeah, uh, and on and on him. I mean playing
- 1:12:00Speaker 4: a lot getting targets thirty nine and we don't have
- 1:12:02Speaker 4: a lot of cheap wide receivers. And then the guy
- 1:12:05Speaker 4: below like he has he has snuck into a couple
- 1:12:08Speaker 4: of lineups, and I don't know if I'm gonna I
- 1:12:11Speaker 4: think I might just roll with it. So that enough
- 1:12:13Speaker 4: said there on the Raiders side, Yeah, it is rare
- 1:12:17Speaker 4: to get a starting running back at forty three. Again,
- 1:12:19Speaker 4: agree with titles point, he's got to do something. Though
- 1:12:21Speaker 4: I have forty three. You know what's the lowest he
- 1:12:24Speaker 4: could score and be on optimal? Like, I guess it depends.
- 1:12:29Speaker 4: It's hard to pinpoint. But like if he somehow gets
- 1:12:33Speaker 4: like fifteen, like I think that could be fun because
- 1:12:36Speaker 4: you're gonna have different sort of builds with him. You're
- 1:12:38Speaker 4: going to whole tier below, I mean, fifteen hundred dollars
- 1:12:41Speaker 4: cheaper than the next like popular type play. So I
- 1:12:46Speaker 4: have him, But again, what are we showing for the ownership? Yeah? Six,
- 1:12:50Speaker 4: So it's like low. It's not like it might creep
- 1:12:52Speaker 4: up a little bit. To be honest with you, I
- 1:12:53Speaker 4: wouldn't be surprised if him his came up a little bit.
- 1:12:56Speaker 4: But at forty three, you're getting a different sort of build,
- 1:12:58Speaker 4: so interested the Jacoby Meyer stuff. It's like, am I
- 1:13:02Speaker 4: excited to play Jacoby Myers? Like, No, not really. It's
- 1:13:05Speaker 4: just like Biden necessity though this week because of the
- 1:13:09Speaker 4: pricing and where he's at, so I'll have some of
- 1:13:11Speaker 4: him and then mister Bauers, I mean, dude's a stud,
- 1:13:14Speaker 4: I mean absolute stud, and then you get the bonus
- 1:13:16Speaker 4: dance at the end. I like to dance at the
- 1:13:18Speaker 4: end as well, so it's another reason to kind of
- 1:13:20Speaker 4: play him. So in on the Bower stuff, it is
- 1:13:22Speaker 4: tougher to get to him though. On FanDuel, I mean
- 1:13:24Speaker 4: he's priced up to seventy five hundred and you start
- 1:13:27Speaker 4: building teams over there, it is it is not easy
- 1:13:30Speaker 4: to pay that price tag seventy five hundred for for
- 1:13:32Speaker 4: a tight end. So I'm definitely gonna make sure to
- 1:13:35Speaker 4: get him in there though. I mean, the guy is
- 1:13:36Speaker 4: super super legit. They're at home, so I don't know,
- 1:13:40Speaker 4: it's a good game. I guess the one thing that
- 1:13:41Speaker 4: definitely stands out to me is bow Neck, and I
- 1:13:44Speaker 4: thought the ownership would be higher. The fact that it
- 1:13:46Speaker 4: is not higher has me pretty excited to play him.
- 1:13:48Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody asks too, and I think it's it's fine.
- 1:13:50Speaker 2: I mean, like, who've just talked about pairing him up
- 1:13:52Speaker 2: Title did too, but he is that he's one of
- 1:13:54Speaker 2: those dudes he runs what getting forty on the ground
- 1:13:56Speaker 2: some games, things like that. It's he can rush touchdowns
- 1:13:59Speaker 2: in he can and throw it to anybody who knows.
- 1:14:01Speaker 2: Someone said Reynolds is back as well, like this guy
- 1:14:03Speaker 2: does toss it all around. So I would have no
- 1:14:05Speaker 2: problem with that. If you like the lineup and it works,
- 1:14:07Speaker 2: just know what you're getting into, and then you're making
- 1:14:09Speaker 2: a decision of you know, four hundred bucks more to
- 1:14:12Speaker 2: get to a Jordan Love naked. If you're playing naked quarterbacks,
- 1:14:15Speaker 2: it's only seven hundred more to get to Jade and Daniels.
- 1:14:17Speaker 2: So I would make some decisions based around that with
- 1:14:20Speaker 2: how you're looking at it. But I think that's pretty interesting.
- 1:14:23Speaker 2: Trey Tucker same initials as me, and not why I'm interested,
- 1:14:26Speaker 2: but just another guy I'll mentioned at four K sort
- 1:14:27Speaker 2: of squeezed in between. The reason I like him is
- 1:14:30Speaker 2: because I'm with these guys really and that I don't
- 1:14:32Speaker 2: love Abdullah. I think I'm rather playing de Vedo at
- 1:14:35Speaker 2: quarterback to hope if I'm really hoping for fifteen points
- 1:14:37Speaker 2: out of a four K guy.
- 1:14:38Speaker 1: I feel like that.
- 1:14:39Speaker 2: Or let me just leverage it in the exact same
- 1:14:41Speaker 2: spot on the same team at wide receiver, take a
- 1:14:44Speaker 2: shot on Trey Tucker hopefully gets some of those catches
- 1:14:46Speaker 2: through the middle, and then maybe he gets one in
- 1:14:48Speaker 2: the box or something at four K. So Bowers, who
- 1:14:51Speaker 2: you mentioned, all good Broncos d if you land in
- 1:14:54Speaker 2: thirty two hundred is one of the mid tier options
- 1:14:56Speaker 2: that I liked.
- 1:14:57Speaker 1: And then not too much else for me here in
- 1:14:58Speaker 1: this game, so we can move on, all right, title
- 1:15:01Speaker 1: go to you on this one.
- 1:15:02Speaker 2: The Packers at home Jordan Love and co I always
- 1:15:06Speaker 2: tough to figure out. And then the forty nine ers
- 1:15:07Speaker 2: with Brandon Allen, What are we doing in this one
- 1:15:10Speaker 2: niner side?
- 1:15:12Speaker 5: I think just McCaffrey For me, I'd be fine with
- 1:15:14Speaker 5: a little Juwan. He was just a monster, But when
- 1:15:17Speaker 5: Brendan Allen's throwing you the football, it definitely takes a
- 1:15:20Speaker 5: lot of appeel outs For the secondary stuff. I'm definitely
- 1:15:23Speaker 5: good still playing McCaffrey, though backup quarterback, you think you'd
- 1:15:26Speaker 5: even rely morean McCaffrey for dumpoffs obviously, Shanahan gonna want
- 1:15:31Speaker 5: to get McCaffrey the ball. I think McCaffrey is a
- 1:15:33Speaker 5: very strong play. If it was pretty behind, I think
- 1:15:36Speaker 5: McCaffrey would be like twenty six percent owned on this
- 1:15:38Speaker 5: late as the chalk Packers stuff. Yeah, I mean it's
- 1:15:42Speaker 5: a close game. They're applied for twenty five points. Weather's fine.
- 1:15:45Speaker 5: I definitely like Jacobs. I like Jayden Reid. I like
- 1:15:47Speaker 5: Romeo Dobbs, the Dobbs price take two chiep. He leads
- 1:15:51Speaker 5: the receivers in the snapcount. Jayden reads their most explosive.
- 1:15:55Speaker 5: I will say, though, Christian Watson is also coming into
- 1:15:58Speaker 5: his own big play guy. I don't love Jordan Love
- 1:16:02Speaker 5: on DraftKings. It's expensive and you have to get it right.
- 1:16:04Speaker 5: I think he's a lot more interesting on FanDuel, whereas
- 1:16:07Speaker 5: you where Josh Jacobs. Actually we do have Jacobs as
- 1:16:10Speaker 5: same twelve and eleven. I think Jacobs will be a
- 1:16:12Speaker 5: little higher on FanDuel, where Hoop said a lot of
- 1:16:14Speaker 5: the running backs are priced up. Touchdowns mean a little more.
- 1:16:17Speaker 5: He's popping a bit over there. I think you just
- 1:16:19Speaker 5: get more leverage on FanDuel. And again, if our ownerships
- 1:16:22Speaker 5: stay true, that's not the case. I'm looking at stuff though.
- 1:16:25Speaker 5: I think it will be and Love will be. He's
- 1:16:28Speaker 5: really all on there. Jaden Read's price tag is up there.
- 1:16:31Speaker 5: Dobbs looks really cheap on FanDuel, and I think I
- 1:16:34Speaker 5: didn like Watson Overread at that price tag on fandel two.
- 1:16:37Speaker 5: Regardless though, pick two of them. You can play them
- 1:16:39Speaker 5: with love. You get leverage off of the Jacobs stuff.
- 1:16:42Speaker 5: But I mean in the back you by far the
- 1:16:43Speaker 5: best plays Jacobs McCaffrey and I don't really think it's close,
- 1:16:47Speaker 5: and they're both really really strong plays with a lot
- 1:16:49Speaker 5: of upside in this game.
- 1:16:50Speaker 1: Favor to score, yeah, I will say. Before I kick
- 1:16:53Speaker 1: it to hoop. Here just a couple of notes. One
- 1:16:55Speaker 1: is the last game of the slate.
- 1:16:56Speaker 2: When we get there, the Cardinals Seahawks going to be
- 1:16:59Speaker 2: extremely popp you know, just lots of plays that have
- 1:17:01Speaker 2: picked up steam and so late swap opportunity. You're getting
- 1:17:05Speaker 2: the stone. We appreciate the likes, Thank you guys for
- 1:17:07Speaker 2: the support. If you look at it though, this is
- 1:17:09Speaker 2: the only target game that we have on the slate,
- 1:17:12Speaker 2: and what makes it pretty interesting is I can pull
- 1:17:14Speaker 2: my old pull the trigger on my favorite thing to do.
- 1:17:17Speaker 2: I can play love read Dobbs, especially on FanDuel, and
- 1:17:21Speaker 2: just run it back with Jennings. Jennings has basically been
- 1:17:23Speaker 2: ayuk with no ayuk so and when he's been in there,
- 1:17:26Speaker 2: I know, the first big game and everyone's like, oh,
- 1:17:28Speaker 2: you can't do that again. These guys don't need to
- 1:17:30Speaker 2: do that again. When they have outlier games that big.
- 1:17:33Speaker 2: They can have half of that or you know, three
- 1:17:35Speaker 2: quarters the outcome of that and still be in pretty
- 1:17:37Speaker 2: good shape and make good for you at fifty six
- 1:17:39Speaker 2: hundred on DraftKings, sixty seven hundred on FanDuel. I like
- 1:17:43Speaker 2: it a little more on FanDuel, but on DraftKings the
- 1:17:46Speaker 2: benefit is you do get the Jayden Reid discount and
- 1:17:49Speaker 2: everything else that comes with it for the setup on FanDuel,
- 1:17:53Speaker 2: like Hoop always talks about, seventy three hundred is actually
- 1:17:55Speaker 2: not expensive for a quarterback, even though it seems expensive
- 1:17:58Speaker 2: when you go over to DraftKings. Nobody more than seven
- 1:18:01Speaker 2: k with Jaden Daniels today. So kick it to you,
- 1:18:03Speaker 2: Hoop on this one. The Packers at home versus forty
- 1:18:05Speaker 2: nine Ers, what's your thoughts?
- 1:18:07Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean on the forty nine ers side. For me,
- 1:18:09Speaker 4: it's just gonna be McCaffrey, and I'm not I don't know,
- 1:18:13Speaker 4: like I get the dumpoffs and all that. I'm not
- 1:18:15Speaker 4: super excited to play him, to be honest with you,
- 1:18:17Speaker 4: I'm just playing them more as I guess maybe like
- 1:18:19Speaker 4: a blocker. I don't know, when you get a backup
- 1:18:22Speaker 4: quarterback in like a lot can go wrong and it
- 1:18:25Speaker 4: can get ugly. So I am playing McCaffrey, I'll be honest,
- 1:18:27Speaker 4: I'm not like super super excited to play them. Agree
- 1:18:31Speaker 4: with you, guy the top on the Packer stuff, I
- 1:18:33Speaker 4: have not played the Packers, I don't think at all
- 1:18:35Speaker 4: this season. For the most part, it's worked out. But
- 1:18:38Speaker 4: Jordan loves seventy three hundred. I'm FanDuel with I don't know,
- 1:18:41Speaker 4: like three very solid wide receiver options. I'm very interested
- 1:18:45Speaker 4: a lot of different ways to go, and the ownership
- 1:18:49Speaker 4: is remaining in shock. Like Jordan loves six percent on FanDuel,
- 1:18:54Speaker 4: Jayden Reid six, Watson four, Dobbs four, like very interesting
- 1:19:00Speaker 4: in the Packer stuff over on FanDuel, and then I
- 1:19:02Speaker 4: think Josh Jacobs is a really good play as well
- 1:19:05Speaker 4: on both sites. But like title kind of laid out
- 1:19:07Speaker 4: to seventy six on FanDuel or a lot of these
- 1:19:10Speaker 4: running backs are priced up is a solid value and
- 1:19:14Speaker 4: twelve percent I think that's a good number two. So
- 1:19:17Speaker 4: I'll have a lot of packers over on FanDuel, not
- 1:19:20Speaker 4: really playing it on DK. McCaffrey for sure, and yeah,
- 1:19:26Speaker 4: it's about it.
- 1:19:27Speaker 1: Yeah, I just had to make sure I FanDuel. I
- 1:19:29Speaker 1: just reserved an extra one for this Jordan Love lineup.
- 1:19:31Speaker 1: I really got a feeling for that. One guy that
- 1:19:33Speaker 1: was popping was Dobbs a little bit. I know, Watson's
- 1:19:36Speaker 1: there and a little bit more and all that, but
- 1:19:38Speaker 1: I liked read already, and when titles sort of laid
- 1:19:40Speaker 1: it out like that and reminded me, I was like, man,
- 1:19:42Speaker 1: I kind of really like this setup, and then I'll
- 1:19:44Speaker 1: see what I can get in around it. So I
- 1:19:46Speaker 1: think that's interesting.
- 1:19:48Speaker 2: This is definitely the case, like Hoop kind of said,
- 1:19:50Speaker 2: it's almost like a blocker.
- 1:19:51Speaker 1: You just throw it in there. You could see a
- 1:19:52Speaker 1: spot where dump off City the one note.
- 1:19:55Speaker 2: I know for sure because I had him in one
- 1:19:56Speaker 2: of my main lineups last week McCaffrey and just following
- 1:19:59Speaker 2: it all after noon, that had to be like the
- 1:20:01Speaker 2: worst outcome and runout and day for him, and he
- 1:20:04Speaker 2: still was getting all that work and target. Now a
- 1:20:06Speaker 2: different quarterback, I get it, but man, that was a
- 1:20:08Speaker 2: pretty bad one. And like title said earlier, if we
- 1:20:11Speaker 2: had Purty back there, I think it's a whole different
- 1:20:13Speaker 2: slate at hand. But main point was I like this
- 1:20:16Speaker 2: spot a little bit, love this spot for late swap.
- 1:20:19Speaker 2: So if you're on this next game, which makes sense
- 1:20:21Speaker 2: to go to, now, let's talk about a title Cardinals
- 1:20:24Speaker 2: at the Seahawks, But that Packers forty nine Ers game
- 1:20:27Speaker 2: is a game if you're dead from the morning, you
- 1:20:28Speaker 2: could certainly move some of this stuff over.
- 1:20:31Speaker 1: And I think both sides of.
- 1:20:32Speaker 2: This are getting a little steam. Be interesting to see
- 1:20:34Speaker 2: after lock how the ownership shakes out. But the Geno
- 1:20:37Speaker 2: and Kyler stuff both pretty interesting in this game. Little
- 1:20:39Speaker 2: bit of weather talk too.
- 1:20:40Speaker 3: I think title yeah Roth has it as yellow.
- 1:20:43Speaker 5: When I saw yellow, I didn't want to like change
- 1:20:46Speaker 5: really anything, So.
- 1:20:48Speaker 3: Yeah, weather's fine in my opinion.
- 1:20:50Speaker 4: I want to say, it looks like some sort of
- 1:20:53Speaker 4: rain throughout, but nothing heavy.
- 1:20:57Speaker 5: I mean another day ending in Wine, Washington, correct year.
- 1:21:00Speaker 5: But I mean, first of all, McCaffrey's probably Mabe to
- 1:21:03Speaker 5: make you feel a little better hoop one hundred twelve
- 1:21:05Speaker 5: and a half yard rushing and receiving prop minus one
- 1:21:08Speaker 5: twenty on the over I think McCaffrey's a strong yeah.
- 1:21:11Speaker 4: I mean, I'm definitely playing on them. It's just I
- 1:21:13Speaker 4: don't know any like there's concern with overall offensive efficiency
- 1:21:19Speaker 4: with the backup in there.
- 1:21:21Speaker 5: For sure, Shanahan's scheme and him, he makes me feel
- 1:21:24Speaker 5: a little better when they back ups, but one hundred
- 1:21:26Speaker 5: percent there. Yeah, it's definitely above down going allen over
- 1:21:30Speaker 5: perty last game of the slate, though, it's getting ownership,
- 1:21:33Speaker 5: as you showed, both running backs getting some I mean
- 1:21:37Speaker 5: we've talked about James Connor and Kenneth Walker all year.
- 1:21:39Speaker 5: I think have been two of the better running back plays.
- 1:21:41Speaker 5: James Connor is a workhorse and catch some passes. Kenneth
- 1:21:45Speaker 5: Walker is a workhorse on the ground. Three touchdown upside always,
- 1:21:49Speaker 5: Kyler Murray has rushing upside. Marvin Harrison's price tag maybe
- 1:21:53Speaker 5: as cheap as well. Verse at six to one. Trey
- 1:21:56Speaker 5: McBride also right in that Kelsey range. I think double
- 1:21:58Speaker 5: tight ends pretty strong today. Three running backs good double
- 1:22:01Speaker 5: tight end. Those are my preferred ways to use the
- 1:22:04Speaker 5: flex and that's cause, like trade, McBride's a little less
- 1:22:07Speaker 5: than something. He's arguably wide receiver one on this team.
- 1:22:10Speaker 5: Brock Bowers, like we talked about Kelsey, just feels like
- 1:22:13Speaker 5: a lot of these tight ends are underpriced.
- 1:22:15Speaker 3: Give me all the trade.
- 1:22:16Speaker 5: McBride, James Connor, Marvin Harrison would be three now. In
- 1:22:20Speaker 5: terms of Kyler Murray, I don't know. I have some interests.
- 1:22:25Speaker 5: I don't love it on the road though, tough place
- 1:22:27Speaker 5: to play. Like you said, if there's a little weather concern.
- 1:22:29Speaker 5: You look at the stone right here. Seahawks a little
- 1:22:31Speaker 5: worse against the Rush than the past. So I do
- 1:22:33Speaker 5: prefer Connor, But if I do go Kyler, I'm fine
- 1:22:36Speaker 5: with just going him. Harrison, him McBride, him McBride would
- 1:22:40Speaker 5: would be my preferred. Excuse me, and not sure how
- 1:22:43Speaker 5: much I love going Kyler, Harrison and McBride. It's a
- 1:22:46Speaker 5: little expensive and you need a lot of good outcomes
- 1:22:49Speaker 5: to come.
- 1:22:50Speaker 3: I do like Seahawks side a lot. I think they
- 1:22:52Speaker 3: put up points.
- 1:22:52Speaker 5: It's either Kenneth Walker or it's Gino with dk jsn Lockett.
- 1:22:58Speaker 5: Barner's a little interesting. His role has definitely grown fant
- 1:23:01Speaker 5: will be back, though, so I don't think I really
- 1:23:03Speaker 5: want want it this week. JSN, DK, though, I think,
- 1:23:06Speaker 5: are two of the stronger plays on the slate right
- 1:23:09Speaker 5: there below seven K. They throw the ball. One of
- 1:23:11Speaker 5: the most pass happy teams. Not necessarily leverage off of
- 1:23:15Speaker 5: Connor or Walker because they're getting some too, but all
- 1:23:18Speaker 5: of them are very, very affordable. I think I'll have
- 1:23:21Speaker 5: a good of a Seahawk and a good amount of
- 1:23:23Speaker 5: my lineups this week, whether it is Walker on the
- 1:23:25Speaker 5: ground plane from ahead or DKJSN from behind.
- 1:23:28Speaker 1: Yeah, there used to be a thing sleepless in Seattle.
- 1:23:30Speaker 2: If we get scoreless in Seattle, I think we're in
- 1:23:32Speaker 2: big trouble because it's the rain will be there and whatnot.
- 1:23:34Speaker 2: But I think that's fine, and if it deters some
- 1:23:36Speaker 2: ownership away, great.
- 1:23:38Speaker 1: I guess who The big thing here is?
- 1:23:39Speaker 2: The JSN versus Metcalf conversation always because some people think
- 1:23:44Speaker 2: it's expensive for JSN at sixty three hundred. Others think
- 1:23:47Speaker 2: it's a slam dunk, and I tend to agree with
- 1:23:49Speaker 2: that side because he's been on fire, he's been used,
- 1:23:51Speaker 2: it's not been lockett. I know his price is up
- 1:23:53Speaker 2: there now, but for what he's been getting in the
- 1:23:55Speaker 2: target share and all that, and yes, DK was out
- 1:23:58Speaker 2: for one of those, and you'll last just take the
- 1:23:59Speaker 2: last games sample sizes nothing. I just don't think it's
- 1:24:02Speaker 2: that unfair. I think it's pretty good right in the middle,
- 1:24:05Speaker 2: and there's ways that you can play it still and
- 1:24:06Speaker 2: get different.
- 1:24:07Speaker 1: What's your take.
- 1:24:09Speaker 4: Good with either?
- 1:24:10Speaker 1: Like?
- 1:24:10Speaker 4: I like both a lot. I like DK, I like
- 1:24:12Speaker 4: js N three hundred dollars separation, like I want a
- 1:24:16Speaker 4: lot of both guys and a lot of this game.
- 1:24:19Speaker 4: The running backs, you know, are are simple. I think
- 1:24:22Speaker 4: you know, both under seven k, both solid plays. I
- 1:24:24Speaker 4: want a lot of both. You know, the GENO side
- 1:24:28Speaker 4: is going to get some more ownership GINO two DK,
- 1:24:30Speaker 4: GINO to j s N. You know those combinations will
- 1:24:34Speaker 4: get a decent chuck ownership. I like it. I want
- 1:24:37Speaker 4: to do some of it, you know, Tyler Lockett, I
- 1:24:40Speaker 4: think is fine. I mean the cheapest priced obviously it's
- 1:24:42Speaker 4: just been DK and JSN, but you know, bottom barrel
- 1:24:45Speaker 4: price tag game that I really like. Uh, I'll be
- 1:24:49Speaker 4: in on some of him as well. And then I
- 1:24:50Speaker 4: think fant is technically still questionable. They said he's got
- 1:24:54Speaker 4: to do stuff pregames, So it's somewhat of a complicated situation. Yeah,
- 1:24:59Speaker 4: I guess, don't you know, late swap potentially if you
- 1:25:02Speaker 4: want to be on a Seattle tight end. But I
- 1:25:05Speaker 4: don't think either are super strong options. But the Cardinal
- 1:25:08Speaker 4: side to me, stands out as even more appealing because
- 1:25:11Speaker 4: I know this is a game I want to be on.
- 1:25:12Speaker 4: I know most of the ownership is gonna come on
- 1:25:14Speaker 4: the Seattle side. Very interesting. The Kyler Murray stuff, Kyler
- 1:25:20Speaker 4: Murray to trade McBride. I think of those top tight
- 1:25:23Speaker 4: ends Kelsey Bowers. I think McBride comes in third to
- 1:25:27Speaker 4: those guys, and he's been great, So I like that combination.
- 1:25:31Speaker 4: And it's just a gut feeling. There's no like, you know,
- 1:25:34Speaker 4: reasoning behind this. I just think it's a Marvin Harrison
- 1:25:37Speaker 4: Junior kind of day. He's priced low on DK sixty
- 1:25:40Speaker 4: one hundred, there's a lot of other guys around there,
- 1:25:43Speaker 4: ownership is low. It's a game I want to be on.
- 1:25:46Speaker 4: It's the most upside with the lowest ownership in this
- 1:25:49Speaker 4: game that you can potentially find. So, again, more of
- 1:25:52Speaker 4: a gut feeling type of thing, but I think it's
- 1:25:54Speaker 4: gonna be a Marvin Harrison Junior sort of today. You
- 1:25:56Speaker 4: can throw in some Michael Wilson as well, but overall
- 1:26:00Speaker 4: it's a really really appealing game, a lot of different
- 1:26:02Speaker 4: ways to go. Yes, I'm gonna be in on the
- 1:26:04Speaker 4: Seattle stuff, but I think it's the Cardinal side that
- 1:26:07Speaker 4: is the winner today.
- 1:26:09Speaker 2: Yeah, and just to note it, like some people don't
- 1:26:10Speaker 2: follow this fully and I'll just go through it on
- 1:26:12Speaker 2: here quick, but like I love the Harrison Junior call.
- 1:26:15Speaker 2: He's in the same game, just under the JSN price tag.
- 1:26:18Speaker 2: And again it's a late swap thing. It's also how
- 1:26:20Speaker 2: you're setting it up. But when you look here, yes,
- 1:26:23Speaker 2: JSN shows more optimal his projection thirteen point seven ceiling
- 1:26:27Speaker 2: twenty one point seven Harrison Junior one, what is he
- 1:26:30Speaker 2: gonna be? Probably one third by the time JSN steams
- 1:26:33Speaker 2: up at least half the ownership.
- 1:26:34Speaker 1: If not more.
- 1:26:35Speaker 2: Twelve point two not that far off, nineteen point three
- 1:26:38Speaker 2: not that far off. And then people wonder, well, then
- 1:26:40Speaker 2: how does this work? Well, it's because look at Gino
- 1:26:42Speaker 2: and look at like all this comes together as one
- 1:26:45Speaker 2: to make it more likely JSN is gonna end up
- 1:26:47Speaker 2: on there, because obviously Geno's price tag is less than
- 1:26:50Speaker 2: Kyler's and so on and so forth. The full stack
- 1:26:52Speaker 2: versus that can be more optimal. So I got no
- 1:26:55Speaker 2: problem with running the Gino metcalf with using instead of
- 1:26:59Speaker 2: double stacking with JSN, just run it back with Harrison Junior,
- 1:27:02Speaker 2: or like Hoop said, just flip the build. And one
- 1:27:04Speaker 2: thing you know is whether Gino or Kyler Murray gets
- 1:27:08Speaker 2: steamed up. If Gino gets steamed up, so do these
- 1:27:11Speaker 2: guys with him? If Kyler gets steamed up. I actually
- 1:27:14Speaker 2: don't think you see Harrison or Trey McBride go that
- 1:27:17Speaker 2: much heavier than where they're currently at. They'll just they'll
- 1:27:19Speaker 2: be in his lineups. But I don't think the overall
- 1:27:21Speaker 2: stack will be nearly as popular as the Seahawks side.
- 1:27:24Speaker 2: So title anything else you want to add there?
- 1:27:27Speaker 5: Man, No, it's it's a game I like for sure,
- 1:27:31Speaker 5: but it's tough to get right. Like if it's Kenneth
- 1:27:34Speaker 5: Walker getting all of it on the ground, it's not
- 1:27:36Speaker 5: gonna be Gino and those guys, And that's thirty percent ownership.
- 1:27:40Speaker 5: Plus you're looking at Connor side not as bad or
- 1:27:43Speaker 5: not as polarized, I don't think, But I like the game.
- 1:27:46Speaker 5: There's no doubt what stands out of all this as
- 1:27:48Speaker 5: we went through initially from the top side, it's pretty
- 1:27:51Speaker 5: hard to find stacks you love. And I still do
- 1:27:53Speaker 5: think that's the case. And that Dolphins Pats game is
- 1:27:56Speaker 5: the sneaky game and we had to target that in
- 1:27:58Speaker 5: the stone. Don't scroll up, give the people freebies. But yeah,
- 1:28:02Speaker 5: that's uh, that's kind of what stands out too, but
- 1:28:05Speaker 5: nothing more in that game that.
- 1:28:06Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that final thought for you because any
- 1:28:08Speaker 2: week we've spent a lot of time on a game
- 1:28:10Speaker 2: like that, it's typically the week that ends up going
- 1:28:12Speaker 2: that's the game that ends up being the one, and
- 1:28:13Speaker 2: it's like, that's why we spent the time on. It
- 1:28:15Speaker 2: all makes sense now. So there was a few spots
- 1:28:17Speaker 2: like that, but that was certainly one. How you doing
- 1:28:20Speaker 2: the giveaways hoop? Before I have, I got one more
- 1:28:22Speaker 2: question for you. What's the plan on the giveaways? You
- 1:28:24Speaker 2: you looking back and title picks?
- 1:28:26Speaker 4: Yeah, the one, Yeah, the one dude that had the
- 1:28:29Speaker 4: comment about what resulted in the shoeye the golf ownership,
- 1:28:32Speaker 4: because that was pretty shocking.
- 1:28:34Speaker 1: N Drake.
- 1:28:35Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we gotta find something early on. I'll go
- 1:28:39Speaker 4: back and see if you can find something in there.
- 1:28:42Speaker 1: Okay, I was just I guess then I'll stay with title.
- 1:28:44Speaker 1: Usually Hoop does the FanDuel stuff.
- 1:28:46Speaker 2: But I was gonna give a little freebe just a
- 1:28:48Speaker 2: quick conversation maybe title around that night game for Ryan s.
- 1:28:51Speaker 1: He asked if we could cover it.
- 1:28:52Speaker 2: We got to about four to seventy, so we'll be, uh,
- 1:28:54Speaker 2: we'll be there for the people today and talk about
- 1:28:56Speaker 2: I won't pull it up on the stone, but just
- 1:28:58Speaker 2: talk about Eagles at the Rams.
- 1:29:00Speaker 1: He just quick takeaways, kind of condensed right on both sides.
- 1:29:03Speaker 3: It is condensed on both sides.
- 1:29:04Speaker 5: It's pretty expensive on both sides, like very expensive. Jalen
- 1:29:08Speaker 5: Hurts is nine to three the highest price quarterback, Say
- 1:29:11Speaker 5: Quon's all the way up to ten K. Then I'll
- 1:29:13Speaker 5: keep their ownership relatively in check. But who won't be
- 1:29:17Speaker 5: in check is aj Brown. We talked about eighty six hundred,
- 1:29:21Speaker 5: No Devonte Smith and then Pooka has been an absolute beast.
- 1:29:25Speaker 5: I think he gets some ownership. Kyron maybe a little
- 1:29:28Speaker 5: at eight three. That's kind of like who I'm focused
- 1:29:31Speaker 5: on though they're getting ownership. But I like Pookah as
- 1:29:33Speaker 5: a one off. He's my favorite play on the Slate,
- 1:29:35Speaker 5: you get our favorite play in this game six hundred
- 1:29:38Speaker 5: savings ites wise, he looks so back at home in
- 1:29:41Speaker 5: a dome. He's a little lower owned than AJ Brown too,
- 1:29:44Speaker 5: in that same price range, So just go to the other.
- 1:29:47Speaker 3: Side, Kyroen. Yeah, I don't love it.
- 1:29:50Speaker 5: I mean, he's a fine price tag eighty three hundred,
- 1:29:52Speaker 5: but hoop and I dove in a little bit on
- 1:29:54Speaker 5: the Friday Show. His touchdown has definitely came back with
- 1:29:58Speaker 5: Cooper Cup Pooka healthy. There's just more competition there. Pokah
- 1:30:03Speaker 5: is my favorite play by far. I think AJ Brown's fine,
- 1:30:06Speaker 5: Saquon so expensive, and Hurts is so expensive.
- 1:30:09Speaker 3: I don't think I get there much.
- 1:30:11Speaker 2: Yeah, boy Ham, I know he likes the Kien Williams
- 1:30:13Speaker 2: play just because it's really tough. We already talked about
- 1:30:15Speaker 2: so many running back values. He just can't really get
- 1:30:18Speaker 2: a lot of ownership in this spot. And I think
- 1:30:20Speaker 2: most people would go to Na Koup if you can
- 1:30:22Speaker 2: get the money to get up the cup. It's just
- 1:30:23Speaker 2: it's expensive ninety two hundred over there. I will say
- 1:30:27Speaker 2: that my favorite play in this game, or I guess
- 1:30:30Speaker 2: way to handle it not my favorite play, my favorite
- 1:30:32Speaker 2: way to handle it is to add Jalen Hurts into
- 1:30:35Speaker 2: the AJ Brown style. I think a lot of the
- 1:30:36Speaker 2: early line the lineups that kick off early will definitely
- 1:30:39Speaker 2: still have AJ Brown. He's gonna be popular for good reason.
- 1:30:42Speaker 2: He's only eighty I say, only eighty five hundred. Look
- 1:30:44Speaker 2: at some of those names in the spot he's in.
- 1:30:46Speaker 2: But because Jaden Daniels is right there with the Jalen
- 1:30:48Speaker 2: Hurts price tag, and because there's all those cheaper price
- 1:30:51Speaker 2: tags and stacks that we talked about, that makes sense.
- 1:30:54Speaker 2: I actually don't think Jalen Hurts will be nearly.
- 1:30:56Speaker 1: As much as he should be owned.
- 1:30:57Speaker 2: And if we do have the eruption from AJB round
- 1:31:00Speaker 2: that actually is required and it's a big touch two
- 1:31:02Speaker 2: touchdown game or something with all the yardage they have
- 1:31:04Speaker 2: yardage bonus now all of that and more, I think
- 1:31:07Speaker 2: you're gonna need Jalen Hurts, who has a big ceiling,
- 1:31:09Speaker 2: and also Sakwon Barkley ten k. So let's just hope
- 1:31:12Speaker 2: it is that Jalen Hurts rushes two in throws two
- 1:31:15Speaker 2: to AJ Brown. You don't need to run it back
- 1:31:18Speaker 2: and try and pick between these expensive options. But that's
- 1:31:20Speaker 2: a good call out there whop, what do you got.
- 1:31:22Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gotta be. There's a lot of comments earlier
- 1:31:25Speaker 4: about the MVS stuff, so it's gotta be one of
- 1:31:27Speaker 4: the The MVS thing was funny, us shitting on him,
- 1:31:30Speaker 4: me actually going off, and then him just like jamming
- 1:31:33Speaker 4: it in our face like right away on that slate.
- 1:31:35Speaker 4: So there's a couple early on, just trying to find
- 1:31:38Speaker 4: one that that stood out.
- 1:31:41Speaker 2: But Sean Sullivan did say he's the person giving it away.
- 1:31:44Speaker 2: So we can shout out to Sean if you see
- 1:31:45Speaker 2: one that cos like somebody you know that's been here
- 1:31:47Speaker 2: because they're on the grind. They're putting in the time.
- 1:31:50Speaker 2: That's what he's all about, right, He put the work in.
- 1:31:52Speaker 2: He made sure even threw a downswing that he grinded
- 1:31:54Speaker 2: through it played his way and then made it happen.
- 1:31:56Speaker 1: So yeah, Nick puts the work in there, you.
- 1:31:59Speaker 4: Go, that's going. I agree. So this is this last
- 1:32:02Speaker 4: I didn't hear much of what you guys said about
- 1:32:03Speaker 4: the Eagles and ramscheme, but very appealing obviously from a
- 1:32:08Speaker 4: fantasy perspective. The Jalen Hurts stuff is tough to get to.
- 1:32:11Speaker 4: I think you had just mentioned that I was kind
- 1:32:13Speaker 4: of I was with not fully listening going through that
- 1:32:15Speaker 4: the dog bond, that might that might hold the top
- 1:32:18Speaker 4: spot if we do this again at that giveaway, and
- 1:32:20Speaker 4: that's gonna hold it, that's gonna be the show. Yeah,
- 1:32:26Speaker 4: But Hurts is tough to get to on FanDuel because
- 1:32:29Speaker 4: of the price. And I think you just mentioned that again.
- 1:32:31Speaker 4: I was on and I wasn't fully paid attention, but
- 1:32:33Speaker 4: it is kind of tough to get there. So I
- 1:32:34Speaker 4: want to force some of him in. What do you
- 1:32:36Speaker 4: guys have to say about Cooper Cup because ninety two
- 1:32:38Speaker 4: hundred for Cooper Cupp and it seems like it's just
- 1:32:40Speaker 4: it's pooka time now.
- 1:32:42Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what title said exactly that basically, and it
- 1:32:45Speaker 2: was the point was it was like Nikua makes the
- 1:32:47Speaker 2: most sense. He's one hundred dollars more than aj Brown,
- 1:32:50Speaker 2: probably had a little lower ownership. You obviously can put
- 1:32:52Speaker 2: that whole stack together. I said, Ham likes Kyron Williams
- 1:32:56Speaker 2: for three hundred bucks left and at a different position,
- 1:32:58Speaker 2: just to hope for the best. Obviously tough matchup, but
- 1:33:01Speaker 2: he could get checked downs, he could get a bunch
- 1:33:02Speaker 2: of action. It's Karen Williams. If he sort of has
- 1:33:05Speaker 2: a bounce back spot. And then I was saying the
- 1:33:07Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts stuff only because the early anybody playing the
- 1:33:11Speaker 2: FANDUL slate is gonna be willing to have aj Brown.
- 1:33:13Speaker 2: It's just how many people are gonna leave in Jalen
- 1:33:15Speaker 2: Hurts and wait around for the whole day to round
- 1:33:17Speaker 2: their day out with that. But if he truly does
- 1:33:20Speaker 2: have the game that's needed, a big time eruption game,
- 1:33:22Speaker 2: then it's probably gonna be Hurts with Brown that you need.
- 1:33:25Speaker 2: And that's big ceiling, especially if he has a couple
- 1:33:27Speaker 2: of tush pushes or something.
- 1:33:28Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, it's strong points. But the prices are
- 1:33:31Speaker 4: big on that on that game, I mean, big boy
- 1:33:32Speaker 4: price tag. I don't mind Stafford either. I don't know
- 1:33:34Speaker 4: if you guys had any take on that, but seventy
- 1:33:36Speaker 4: two hundred, like he has all his weapons. I mean,
- 1:33:38Speaker 4: he looked good last week. I don't mind him either
- 1:33:40Speaker 4: on FANDUL.
- 1:33:41Speaker 2: Pretty interesting way to do it, actually, I never thought
- 1:33:43Speaker 2: of that one. But if you do want to run that,
- 1:33:44Speaker 2: just man, it's so expensive, what do you know him with?
- 1:33:47Speaker 2: I guess you could get away with just him.
- 1:33:49Speaker 4: He's only seventy two. I think I'm FanDuel, So it's
- 1:33:51Speaker 4: like a cheap.
- 1:33:54Speaker 3: Instead.
- 1:33:54Speaker 2: If you nailed it, your quarterback price is a great call.
- 1:33:56Speaker 2: He's only seventy two hundred weapons dense. It's just once
- 1:34:00Speaker 2: you almost have to, I think, stop it, like pick
- 1:34:02Speaker 2: Nikua or pick Cup.
- 1:34:04Speaker 4: Oh why it can't be a double. I mean, if
- 1:34:06Speaker 4: you double any two, it's over at that. I mean
- 1:34:08Speaker 4: you're you're done. You're playing all cheap dudes, which.
- 1:34:11Speaker 2: I think is a good point because the people automatically
- 1:34:13Speaker 2: assume with a stand up quarterback like Stafford, you have
- 1:34:16Speaker 2: to double.
- 1:34:16Speaker 1: But on this slate, let the slate tell you what's
- 1:34:19Speaker 1: going on.
- 1:34:19Speaker 2: There's lots of value plays that could still get there
- 1:34:21Speaker 2: over trying to pick between DeMarcus Robinson or somebody else
- 1:34:25Speaker 2: with him, or trying to find another one off random
- 1:34:28Speaker 2: elsewhere just to force the double stack. So I don't
- 1:34:30Speaker 2: mind going a different way to play aj Brown would
- 1:34:33Speaker 2: be Stafford, Nikua and Brown, and then fill it out
- 1:34:36Speaker 2: with some of those six K running backs that we
- 1:34:38Speaker 2: talked about. There was like four or five of them.
- 1:34:40Speaker 2: There's guys in the seven K range. Lots of different
- 1:34:42Speaker 2: stuff that you can.
- 1:34:43Speaker 1: Do there with that.
- 1:34:44Speaker 2: So yeah, I think that was good Lsu Nick and
- 1:34:46Speaker 2: Big Driggs where the winners reach out to info at
- 1:34:49Speaker 2: ship at nation dot com if you're worse.
- 1:34:52Speaker 3: Not Lsu Nick. It was Morrison, Big Drigs, wasn't it?
- 1:34:54Speaker 1: Or l Nick Nick Mars is Lsu Nick?
- 1:34:57Speaker 3: Sorry, Oh that's him, that's ls Nick. And then I
- 1:35:00Speaker 3: said that now it all makes more sense.
- 1:35:02Speaker 2: Shut lit break though, I will say, you know, all
- 1:35:04Speaker 2: the bad beats and stuff, it's part of the game.
- 1:35:06Speaker 1: Nobody cares work harder. He did have a.
- 1:35:08Speaker 2: College stack corrected last night, dropped him in half from
- 1:35:12Speaker 2: five k down to twenty five hundred.
- 1:35:14Speaker 1: That hurts.
- 1:35:14Speaker 2: But and he also had the big showdown one that
- 1:35:17Speaker 2: I'm not going to bring up. But yeah, it's pretty
- 1:35:19Speaker 2: pretty wild runouts. But Lions Dongbong coming to a town
- 1:35:22Speaker 2: near you, shout out to Joanne.
- 1:35:24Speaker 4: If I ever do it, I'll have to paint the
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- 1:35:38Speaker 1: just thought were rounding out the show, But the Dodgers
- 1:35:40Speaker 1: colors just won the World Series. It could be a Dodgers,
- 1:35:45Speaker 1: and it could be a Lions. I got this one too,
- 1:35:47Speaker 1: Title check that.
- 1:35:48Speaker 3: Puppy out look, that's an old throwback. That's a nice one.
- 1:35:51Speaker 1: So I think, you know, it could be the year
- 1:35:54Speaker 1: of the Lions.
- 1:35:54Speaker 2: Maybe maybe Title is gonna get owned and me too
- 1:35:56Speaker 2: on this Ravens thing. But I saw today the Ravens
- 1:36:00Speaker 2: be interested in picking up Daniel Jones. Imagine Lamar goes down,
- 1:36:04Speaker 2: Daniel Jones comes in and it's Flacco two point zero
- 1:36:06Speaker 2: and we take it all the way to the top.
- 1:36:08Speaker 1: That'd be something Title.
- 1:36:09Speaker 2: Any final thoughts from you, anything else you want to
- 1:36:11Speaker 2: add before we get out of here.
- 1:36:12Speaker 5: No, I'm really happy that I said something. Morris is
- 1:36:16Speaker 5: lsu Nick, and that's a good piece too, and.
- 1:36:18Speaker 1: Two together name Morse eighty four.
- 1:36:20Speaker 3: That's my thought. So now I'm now I'm so torn.
- 1:36:23Speaker 1: I thought, I see they go by Morse eighty four
- 1:36:26Speaker 1: though that was.
- 1:36:27Speaker 3: Nick Mars and then Mars.
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- 1:36:35Speaker 5: I saw multiple other screenscheck Djen had a good day
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- 1:36:40Speaker 5: but no again, it feels very similar to last week's slate,
- 1:36:45Speaker 5: and the fact that running back's really strong value isn't great.
- 1:36:48Speaker 5: I think two tight ends viable quarterbacks. It's not like
- 1:36:52Speaker 5: one or two that are just like slammed dunk like Richardson,
- 1:36:55Speaker 5: I think is the most popular. Stacking him isn't necessarily
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