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55KRC Monday Show - Ken Kober, Smitherman, Money Monday · Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1: T phones. Yeah, I just asked you this other question.
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Speaker 1: What are they protesting we have in this other tragedy?
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Speaker 1: And okay, this one doesn't look very good. I mean,
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Speaker 1: nobody wants anybody gets shot by law enforcement. Some are
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Speaker 1: blown out of proportion by the left. You know, we
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Speaker 1: go back to Black Lives Matter, and they wanted to
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Speaker 1: defund the entire police department. Defund in other words, get
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Speaker 1: rid of it. Does that mean we stop law enforcement?
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Speaker 1: And moving over to this situation that happened on Saturday,
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Speaker 1: do we just stop enforcing immigration laws? And I guess
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Speaker 1: why would you interject yourself in that operation? What are
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Speaker 1: you fighting about? You buy into, then, Ara, the narrative
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Speaker 1: that they're going after children and women and breaking into
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Speaker 1: people's homes and arresting innocent folks. That is not really
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Speaker 1: what is going on. And maybe the failure is the
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Speaker 1: Trump administration not projecting the reality of what they're doing,
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Speaker 1: or even if they are projecting the reality of what
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Speaker 1: they're doing and telling people, look, we're going after criminals
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Speaker 1: and bad guys that have committed crimes in our country illegally.
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Speaker 1: From the outset, they've already violated immigration laws, and here
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Speaker 1: they came into our country and violated our country's law,
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Speaker 1: our country's criminal laws. I mean, are you really going
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Speaker 1: out in the streets to prevent those individuals from being
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Speaker 1: chucked out of the country. I don't buy it. This
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Speaker 1: is something far more nefarious than that. But they got
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Speaker 1: their martyr in this particular case. I don't know how
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Speaker 1: you're gonna spin this went into a plus the arguments about, yeah,
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Speaker 1: are you allowed to carry a concealed firearm into an
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Speaker 1: area where protests are going on? The answer is yes,
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Speaker 1: if you are, of course lawfully allowed to have a firearm,
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Speaker 1: you comply with whatever state laws apply. Yes, And from
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Speaker 1: a personal standpoint, I am a concealed carrier. I appreciate
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Speaker 1: the ability to defend myself against those individuals out in
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Speaker 1: the world I might want to do me or my
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Speaker 1: family or even you harm comparatively slight of build Am
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Speaker 1: I not trained in crowdmaga or any other martial arts.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's kind of a comforting thing. And if
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Speaker 1: I'm going into a dangerous area, I am more inclined
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Speaker 1: to want to carry the Great Equalizer than I would be, say,
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Speaker 1: if I'm just walking around my neighborhood. So does it
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Speaker 1: make sense that someone's going down into the danger zone
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Speaker 1: might be carrying a firearm for his or her own
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Speaker 1: self defense. Absolutely, under any circumstance, carrying or not, if
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Speaker 1: you think it's appropriate to go and try to interfere
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Speaker 1: with law enforcements efforts to do their job, that in
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Speaker 1: and of itself is an actual offense. I don't recommend
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Speaker 1: anybody breaking the law. Why would you do it? What
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Speaker 1: is the motivation there? And they'll tell me because Ice
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Speaker 1: picked up a five year old. If you look at
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Speaker 1: the facts behind that one, Come on, we can all
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Speaker 1: see the reality. But in a mainstream media world where
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Speaker 1: anything the Trump administration does, under any circumstances automatically deemed
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Speaker 1: evil and nefarious and awful, well, you're not going to
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Speaker 1: get the true picture, are you. So I give the
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Speaker 1: Trump administration I guess a little bit of understanding for
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Speaker 1: the messaging. If they haven't projected messaging, perhaps that's their fault,
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Speaker 1: but I do believe they try. They keep saying out low, listen,
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Speaker 1: we're not going after for people who haven't committed crimes,
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Speaker 1: not going after grandma's. We don't want to pick up kids.
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Speaker 1: The only problem is in picking up the evil and
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Speaker 1: nefarious bad guys, even child rapists. Occasionally there happens to
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Speaker 1: be innocent people or people we otherwise wouldn't be going
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Speaker 1: after in the mix. And then throw into that a
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Speaker 1: bunch of crazy protesters who are protesting what again, Tell
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Speaker 1: me what are they protesting? Why is it in just
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Speaker 1: a crazy blue cities like Minneapolis. It's widely reported that
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Speaker 1: ICE operations in cities and states where they cooperate with
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Speaker 1: ICE law enforcement efforts, there aren't violent protests in the street,
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Speaker 1: there are people standing in the way of ICE doing
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Speaker 1: its job, and there apparently aren't any interactions with these
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Speaker 1: poor people who shouldn't be picked up in the first place.
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Speaker 1: That's what comes from cooperation elected officials who support ICE
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Speaker 1: federal actions federal law enforcement in their neighborhood, which they
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Speaker 1: have every right to do, which should be projected out
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Speaker 1: general public. Listen. ICE is a lowed to be here.
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Speaker 1: We can't stop them. You don't have any problems under
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Speaker 1: those circumstances. But boy, low end behold, you try to
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Speaker 1: crack down on this stuff in a city like Minneapolis,
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Speaker 1: it hits the fan. People come out of the woodwork
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Speaker 1: to protest that, so do we suspend the law. Here's
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Speaker 1: your question. Just start from the proposition that this was
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Speaker 1: not a justifiable shooting. Now you can go ahead and
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Speaker 1: make an argument that it was aoka, But unlike the
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Speaker 1: woman who tried to run over the ice officer with
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Speaker 1: her car, that was the deadly weapon in this particular case.
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Speaker 1: Video footage, you know, multiple replays. Someone threw a flag
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Speaker 1: out there or asked for the recall or the replay,
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Speaker 1: and we viewed it over and over and over again.
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Speaker 1: It appears as though the man whose gun, he did
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Speaker 1: have a gun, wasn't brandishing a firearm at the time.
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Speaker 1: By most accounts, he was holding the ste phone. I
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Speaker 1: have yet seen any video of him brandishing the firearm
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Speaker 1: or waving it around at anybody. It was honest person,
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Speaker 1: for sure, a little disturb by this regular but it
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Speaker 1: was a fully loaded nine millimeters semi automatic firearm with
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Speaker 1: two additional magazines. Who knew that before he was shot.
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Speaker 1: A couple articles about the firearm itself, SIGP three twenty, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: notorious SIGP three twenty, famously known if you drop them,
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Speaker 1: sometimes they go off. There was a recall on that
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Speaker 1: or at least if you sent years in, they would
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Speaker 1: do a fix on that little guy. Do you think
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Speaker 1: the officers actually new as a SIGP? Three twenty? So
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Speaker 1: I read an arcle suggesting that, well, you know, I
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Speaker 1: could have. I would. The first shot was fired after
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Speaker 1: the Ice agent disarmed him, took the firearm away, and
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Speaker 1: the gunshots came out after he disarmed the guy that
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Speaker 1: was laying on the ground surrounded by Ice agents. Do
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Speaker 1: you think the Ice agents, Oh my god, it's to
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Speaker 1: say P. Three twenty, we're better shoot hi, We're all
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Speaker 1: gonna die now. I really don't believe that that would
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Speaker 1: be a little difficult for me to swallow this morning
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Speaker 1: on a Monday. But you do have the right to
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Speaker 1: keep in bare arms. That right applies to regardless of
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Speaker 1: political affiliation. Some of the comments rather interesting along those lines.
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Speaker 1: And I'm a little hard to support Trump. I don't
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Speaker 1: like any shooting. I don't like it, he said. But
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Speaker 1: I don't like it when somebody goes into a protest
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Speaker 1: and he's got a very powerful, fully loaded gun with
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Speaker 1: two magazines loaded up with bullets. Also, it doesn't play
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Speaker 1: good either in what way? In what way is that wrong?
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Speaker 1: Just as a statement on its face, somebody has a
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Speaker 1: very powerful, fully loaded gun. Two loaded magazines with uploaded
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Speaker 1: up with bullets. Also, like, why else would you carry
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Speaker 1: a magazine. A lot of my concealed carry friends out
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Speaker 1: there always carry extra magazines, and they go all over
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Speaker 1: the place. They may show up at a protest, they
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Speaker 1: may show up, oh, I don't know, maybe at church.
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Speaker 1: They may be walking around next to you, walking up
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Speaker 1: and down the street downtown Cincinnati. Not a thing wrong
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Speaker 1: with that. I'm a Second Amendment guy, and I'm not gonna,
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Speaker 1: you know, draw distinctions between what your political affiliation is
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Speaker 1: and whether or not you have a right to keep
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Speaker 1: them bare arms. And again, I'll go back to the
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Speaker 1: whole reality it was a dangerous situation. I wouldn't go there, sure,
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Speaker 1: But going back to who may get some blame on this,
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Speaker 1: how about the elected officials of Minneapolis, from the governor
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Speaker 1: all the way down to the mayor, stirring the pot,
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Speaker 1: telling people to take to the streets, telling people to
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Speaker 1: basically put themselves in a position where they already taxed.
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Speaker 1: Ice agents who are ridiculed throwing having objects thrown at them,
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Speaker 1: yelled at, screamed at, docs, followed around, pasted twenty four
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Speaker 1: to seven because they're doing their job, and I would
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Speaker 1: argue the job is a decent one, it's a noble one,
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Speaker 1: and it's one that's going to help improve the safety
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Speaker 1: of the communities at large because they're trying to get
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Speaker 1: rid of bad people. So in this volaid environment where
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Speaker 1: they're all on edge, you have ginned up this anti
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Speaker 1: ICE protest movement so much so that the ICE agents
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Speaker 1: don't know what the hell to do. They're surrounded by
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Speaker 1: perhaps violent agitators. They're surrounded by people that they know
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Speaker 1: have a Second Amendment right to keep them bare arms
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Speaker 1: and carry them concealed. In the state of Minneapolis, you
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Speaker 1: got a license, you're allowed assuming all things being equal,
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Speaker 1: the ICE agents know that any one of the people
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Speaker 1: that is screaming at them or otherwise trying to interfere
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Speaker 1: with ICE agents doing their job may be armed. That's
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Speaker 1: got to have them wigged out. You're in a neighborhood
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Speaker 1: where the local officials elected and otherwise have refused to
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Speaker 1: the you have have refused you ICE the support of
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Speaker 1: local law enforcement to enforce local law, leaving you the
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Speaker 1: ICE agents to have to conduct basically what should amount
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Speaker 1: to a local law enforcement operation. Arresting people for interfering
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Speaker 1: with the operations of the federal government or just otherwise
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Speaker 1: standing in the middle of the street blocking traffic, et cetera.
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Speaker 1: These are local offenses. Where are the police? You got
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Speaker 1: no support. You are an island in a sea of
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Speaker 1: leftist agitators who don't want you to enforce the law,
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Speaker 1: who don't want you to do your job. I would
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Speaker 1: think that Ratchet's tensions up pretty high. This is exactly
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Speaker 1: what the left wanted. They've got their martyr, and this
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Speaker 1: one again looks like unlike George Floyd, who they had
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Speaker 1: to make you think was innocent and a complete victim
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Speaker 1: of the crime, et cetera, et cetera, this one looks
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Speaker 1: a little more solid. For their side of the ledger,
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Speaker 1: their side of the argument, was it reasonable. Did the
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Speaker 1: officers have reasonable eminent apprehension of grievous bodily harm happening
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Speaker 1: to them when they were roughly five or six ice
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Speaker 1: agents standing around already on top of this guy when
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Speaker 1: the shooting starts. That's what you got to view it through.
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Speaker 1: So let's just say as a point of fact that
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Speaker 1: they were wrong in using deadly force. We've had this
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Speaker 1: happen with like local law enforcement officers, other police officers,
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Speaker 1: you know, of being a little too zealous and screwing
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Speaker 1: up if I mean, just boil it down to embarrassed terms.
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Speaker 1: I don't know any human being who is perfect. Do
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Speaker 1: you throw someone who has got basically a metaphorical crosshair
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Speaker 1: on them? Anyway, just put them in the neighborhood and
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Speaker 1: then give them the responsibility to enforce federal immigration law
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Speaker 1: in that neighborhood where they already feel bad, tensions running high.
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Speaker 1: Might people make mistakes? Yeah? Question, do you stop law
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Speaker 1: enforcement because somebody made a mistake? That's what the left wants?
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Speaker 1: And again why some suggest and a completely unrelated corollary,
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Speaker 1: some suggest us that maybe this is to take attention
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Speaker 1: away from the massive, multi billion dollar fraud, waste, and
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Speaker 1: abuse things that are going on within the Somali community
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Speaker 1: in Minneapolis. The maybe that hang on time you're next.
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Speaker 1: If I have twenty right now, if you have KC
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Speaker 1: see what Tom lay says. Tom too, but we'll call
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Speaker 1: him Tom one since he's first in line this morning. Tom,
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Morning Show. A very happy Monday
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Speaker 1: to year. Try to make it anyway.
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Speaker 3: Good morning, Brian. So I want to get back to
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Speaker 3: the federal ID badge. All these ice agents are having
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Speaker 3: to go into people's homes and going all these traffic
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Speaker 3: stops and everything. If we get a federal ID badge,
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Speaker 3: you cannot do any banking without one. You can't get
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Speaker 3: into an office building without your regular office ID badge
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Speaker 3: for the elevators and stuff. You can't fly on an airplane.
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Speaker 3: Students need one to get into the university building. Voting
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Speaker 3: should be in person unless you're in a military hospital
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Speaker 3: or a nursing home, and you should have to show
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Speaker 3: your federal ID bands to vote.
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Speaker 1: You brought this up before, Tom. Is this the world
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Speaker 1: you want to live in?
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Speaker 4: Now?
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Speaker 1: I'm saying this from a man who stood downstairs in
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Speaker 1: the lobby of this building for a half hour this
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Speaker 1: morning because I didn't drive my regular car, the keys
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Speaker 1: to which have the fob that makes the elevators work.
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Speaker 1: I drove the family car the four wheel drive tell
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Speaker 1: you ride, which means I couldn't get in the building.
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Speaker 1: Now you have a federal ID requirement for literally every
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Speaker 1: movement around every place you go. What happens. If you
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Speaker 1: forgot it, your life has ended. Period. I don't like that.
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Speaker 1: I don't want to live in a world where let
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Speaker 1: me see your papers. That's not me, man. It sounds
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Speaker 1: like Nazi journey. Not to bring up the Nazis again,
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Speaker 1: because everybody uses that as a default criticism. But that's
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Speaker 1: not something I can go for. Man. I appreciate where
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Speaker 1: the sentiment comes from, and I appreciate that it might
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Speaker 1: solve some of the world's problem. But to exist and
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Speaker 1: move about day in and day out, you must have
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Speaker 1: a federally issued identification card.
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Speaker 3: Sorry, man, Look fine, all these illegal people are undocumented citizens.
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Speaker 3: What do they want to use. They want to use
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Speaker 3: the banking system, They want to use our schools, they
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Speaker 3: want to use our hospitals.
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Speaker 1: Our federal law allows for that though. Matter of fact,
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Speaker 1: that's why there's a problem for whatever reason, under our
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Speaker 1: law here in the United States, even if you're come
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Speaker 1: in here illegally, you're entitled to go to the hospital,
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Speaker 1: you're entitled to education, you're entitled to get on public assistance.
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Speaker 1: There in lines where the fix is, and there's all
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Speaker 1: kinds of fraud issues going on. It looked they just
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Speaker 1: cracked down on social security fraud. I mean we had
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Speaker 1: to wait around for a day where they were going
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Speaker 1: to get people who are dead, who have long been
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Speaker 1: dead off the social security roles. Doesn't that sound like
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Speaker 1: something they should have been on top of a long,
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Speaker 1: long time ago.
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Speaker 3: Well, somehow we're going to have to create this. You know,
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Speaker 3: a little bit of pain you get these people, don't.
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Speaker 1: I think it's a lot more pain than you're factoring
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Speaker 1: in there, Tom, I really do. Anyway, it's an idea.
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Speaker 1: You and I can feel free to disagree on whether
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Speaker 1: or not we want to go down that rub. Maybe
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Speaker 1: a color agrees with you. I'd like to hear more
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Speaker 1: development on it, But at this moment in time, I
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Speaker 1: think there are a lot of areas in the world
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Speaker 1: that where we can fix problems without having to go there.
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Speaker 1: I mean, Trump cracked down on the border security. That's
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Speaker 1: worked perfectly. So if you keep people from coming in
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Speaker 1: in the first place, you don't have a problem with
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Speaker 1: them getting on the public welfare state in the second place.
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Speaker 1: That's a fix that's in place. Now, let's go after
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Speaker 1: and ferret out all the fraud ways to be people
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Speaker 1: using illegal security, wrongfully obtained or otherwise fraudulently obtained. Those
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Speaker 1: security numbers are identification, and I don't think a national
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Speaker 1: federal ID would prevent people from fraudulently obtaining one. Although
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Speaker 1: I don't know if the federal government's in charge of it,
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Speaker 1: I know they're going to screw it up. That's a
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Speaker 1: default position. Can go away with soundly and with great comfort.
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Speaker 1: hope you give me a call. Be right back, Clay
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Speaker 1: and Buck. I think we are setting okay. So we
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Speaker 1: heard from Tom to Tom one nowhere to be found.
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Speaker 1: Guess he's taking the day off, using Sherman mcguffey's Level
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Speaker 1: three snow emergency for Hamilton County as an excuse to
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Speaker 1: not go to work. And that's probably where you should be.
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Speaker 1: Not going to work today to the extent you're allowed
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Speaker 1: to miss. Roads are in terrible shape, and if you
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Speaker 1: are going out, it is a prudent thing to do
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Speaker 1: to take some gloves, take a hat, a warm hat,
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Speaker 1: warm clothes, cake, take throw a blanket in the back.
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Speaker 1: You may not make it to work, so be careful
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Speaker 1: The entire Try state is under various levels of snow emergencies.
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Speaker 1: As I mentioned before, coming a shock to no one.
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Speaker 1: Now they say, don't worry about any more snow coming
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Speaker 1: after the major snowstorm record breaker it was. Now it's
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Speaker 1: dangerously low temperatures for the week. Keep an eye on
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Speaker 1: loved ones, most notably, pray to God that the power
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Speaker 1: doesn't go out. Trash service is suspended Rumky and the
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Speaker 1: City of Cincinnati not picking up trash today. They both
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Speaker 1: made the announcement yesterday. Rumpky communications manager Mally Jeger said
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Speaker 1: they will be on a one day delay for the
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Speaker 1: whole week, assuming the road conditions and the weather improved.
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Speaker 1: That means they'll be able to get back on schedule.
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Speaker 1: Of course, if they don't, then they won't. She said.
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Speaker 1: We don't take the decision to suspend services lightly. However,
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Speaker 1: we must pay put the safety of our team members,
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Speaker 1: our customers, and motoring public. First, our plan is to
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Speaker 1: collect Monday customers on Tuesday, and Tuesday on Wednesday and
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Speaker 1: so on, with Friday customers collection on Saturday. There is
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Speaker 1: a link if you want to get a rumky to
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Speaker 1: get specifics on it. They have a link and more
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Speaker 1: information there. But their facilities are going to be closed
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Speaker 1: to the public on Monday. Joe, I know you're planning
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Speaker 1: on making a trip out the Rumky's facilities today, weren't
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Speaker 1: you every Monday? Well you can't. The sanitary landfill, Corean
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Speaker 1: Township's closed today. That's the one you're planning on going to,
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Speaker 1: isn't it. And of course the city since a city
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Speaker 1: manager Moley Layer said, of course the city will not
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Speaker 1: be doing trash or recycling pickup Monday because of course
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Speaker 1: winter storms, same kind of thing as Rumky. Monday's will
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Speaker 1: be picked up tomorrow and so on and so forth
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Speaker 1: until the weekend. Over the thrones we go. See what
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Speaker 1: Mark Scott, Hey, Mark, thanks for calling this morning, and
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Speaker 1: happy Monday to you, sir.
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Speaker 5: Hey Ryan, what's up man?
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Speaker 1: You know what's up? Brother?
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Speaker 6: Well?
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Speaker 5: I was reading about that guy up in Minnesota and
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Speaker 5: they asked for his ID.
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Speaker 4: He had no ID.
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Speaker 5: Or his permit with him, so I could have exasperated
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Speaker 5: the incident a little bit.
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Speaker 1: I'm kind of curious to know at what point in
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Speaker 1: time did they ask him for his ID and for
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Speaker 1: his permit, because I mean, this whole thing went down
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Speaker 1: rather quickly, all of it's on video, and I didn't
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying what you're saying isn't true, but I've
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Speaker 1: read millions of accounts on this, and anybody who listens
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Speaker 1: to the show. Not that I have a high amount
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Speaker 1: of respect for the Wall Street journal man, they say
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Speaker 1: it's toast. They think it's time to pause ICE, even
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Speaker 1: in Minneapolis, and they went through frame by frame analysis
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Speaker 1: of all this, and nothing was reference with regard to
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Speaker 1: the ID or his ever brandishing the gun. If he
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Speaker 1: was brandishing the gun, he pulled it out or something
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Speaker 1: that would certainly invite law enforcement to ask him if
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Speaker 1: he's lawfully allowed to carry one of those. And that
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Speaker 1: makes sense, but I don't know that it happened that way.
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Speaker 5: Mark, Yeah, I know it's just what I read. But
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Speaker 5: I've been concealed carry for fifteen years and I never
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Speaker 5: leaven hung without my idea and permit.
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Speaker 1: So well, of course, like.
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Speaker 5: I said, I just don't know if that heighten them
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Speaker 5: guys once they've seen the gun or whatever.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it remains to me seen Mark, But as of
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Speaker 1: right now, it doesn't look that way. Now you can
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Speaker 1: rely because everybody wants a certain outcome. Of course, the
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Speaker 1: left wants this to be just basically a cold act
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Speaker 1: of hardcore murder. That's what they want people to conclude.
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Speaker 1: Some folks on the right pro immigration enforcement folks, I
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Speaker 1: mean individuals like me, would rather have it differently and
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Speaker 1: not have this thing unfolded the way it had. You
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Speaker 1: would like to say, no, no, no, there it is
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Speaker 1: right there. That's the moment in time which justified the
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Speaker 1: reasonable use of deadly force. I can't find it. I
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Speaker 1: wish it was very crystal clear that way. But right
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Speaker 1: now you and I are arguing about something we can
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Speaker 1: watch with our own eyes, not arguing but acknowledging that
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Speaker 1: there still seems some mystery swirling about it. But insofar
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Speaker 1: as where you read things or what you read, you know,
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Speaker 1: I can write an article right now, post it up
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Speaker 1: on the internet saying ah, this was clearly a case
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Speaker 1: of justifiable use of deadly force and make up something.
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Speaker 1: And now they had a priory interaction with them. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: but it would be on it would be false, It'll
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Speaker 1: be whole cloth made up. There are people on the
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Speaker 1: internet who will do that. And I'm never real thrilled
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Speaker 1: with some of the statements from the White House administration either,
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Speaker 1: most notably along the lines of this whole concept of
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Speaker 1: them pointing to the how bad it was for him
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Speaker 1: to even being concealed carry. You, Mark, are obviously a
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Speaker 1: lawful concealed carry. You take your your your concealed carry
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Speaker 1: license with you, you take your identification with you. You
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Speaker 1: know the law. You know you're allowed to carry too,
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Speaker 1: and there's nothing wrong with it. White House is kind
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Speaker 1: of suggesting it was wrong to be a concealed carry,
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Speaker 1: which is tough to reconcile. I'm considering, you know, you
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Speaker 1: consider the administration being Republican would be a pro Second Amendment,
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Speaker 1: you know, at least conceptually supporter with some of these
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Speaker 1: statements that are come out of the White House suggest otherwise,
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Speaker 1: so dangerous road We're going down here without question. Five
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Speaker 1: By forty one fifty one KARSITI Talk station, trying to
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Speaker 1: make it a happy Monday. Well, it seems to be
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Speaker 1: coming unglued. I recognize that, but there's always something positive
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Speaker 1: to look at in your world. I'll just hang my
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Speaker 1: hat on the fact that I made it to work
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Speaker 1: today okay, without any issues. Although the roads are not
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Speaker 1: not great, so try to stay off if possible. Eric
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Speaker 1: confirmed what my position was. The gun was not visible
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Speaker 1: until the scuffle started. To the permit partner's moot, it's
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Speaker 1: much in the same way you kind of scratch your
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Speaker 1: head of the Trump administration spin on it. Stephen Miller
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Speaker 1: came out and called this Alex, the late Alex pretty guy,
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Speaker 1: a domestic terrorist. Why or how means that lend the
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Speaker 1: Trump administration credibility? It was a nurse with no criminal record,
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Speaker 1: but they didn't find that out until later. Best of
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Speaker 1: my knowledge, is nothing in his background other than maybe
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Speaker 1: being a leftist kind of guy, he's not a domestic terrorist.
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Speaker 1: And here's a puzzler for me. Another one, going back
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Speaker 1: to the whole thing, Homeland Security Secretary of Christy nom
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Speaker 1: suggesting that because he was carrying a gun, he, in
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Speaker 1: her words, arrived at the scene to inflict maximum damage
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Speaker 1: on individuals and to kill law enforcement. Really, I may
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Speaker 1: disagree all day long with what this guy was trying
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Speaker 1: to accomplish, but under no circumstances do I walk away
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Speaker 1: from this thinking that he arrived there to start opening
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Speaker 1: fire on law enforcement. Nothing to justify that statement at all,
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Speaker 1: which really, I mean, when you're struggling to maintain some credibility,
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Speaker 1: you're on the rimming side of this whole immigration argument.
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Speaker 1: It's what put Donald Trump in the White House. Now
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Speaker 1: it's in jeopardy of completely fallen off the map and
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Speaker 1: giving Democrats of victory in November because of this. And yeah,
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Speaker 1: I do believe that the elected officials in Minneapolis are
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Speaker 1: directly responsible for this. They're the ones that are ragging
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Speaker 1: it on. Barack Obama is still doing it. We'll get
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Speaker 1: to that a little bit. I was scratching my head
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Speaker 1: of Brock Obama on this one. Anyway, it is time
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Speaker 1: for the stack and stupid. I had to get that
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Speaker 1: out anyway. Packet a ketchup in this case and the
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Speaker 1: charge felony battery which may result in five years of
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Speaker 1: state prison thanks to prior conviction and one man behind
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Speaker 1: bars on an enhanced criminal count for allegedly striking a
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Speaker 1: mail victim with a packet of ketchup. Twenty eight year
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Speaker 1: old Austin Simmons committed the battery inside of a Florida
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Speaker 1: bus terminal. Victim cop say checking on Simmons, who appeared
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Speaker 1: to be passed out, identified as a transient, and the
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Speaker 1: arrest ab it David Simmons woke up, irate you, walked
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Speaker 1: toward Carlos Mara and threw an open ketchup packet at
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Speaker 1: the victim. According to police, Maura suffered two spots of
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Speaker 1: ketchup on his jacket. Those words are actually in the
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Speaker 1: police report. Cops found the packet on the ground, open,
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Speaker 1: the ketchup pouring out, and packet ulto point three ounces
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Speaker 1: not collected as evidence. I love these articles from the
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Speaker 1: Smoking Gun. Simmons denied striking more with the economy in
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Speaker 1: but reportedly admitted giving the victim a ketchup packet. A
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Speaker 1: minor incident normally be handled as a misdemeanor or just
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Speaker 1: overlooked completely. Simmons charge with a third degree felony due
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Speaker 1: to a prior twenty nineteen battery conviction. Arrest records do
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Speaker 1: not indicate where the earlier case was fouled, or whether
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Speaker 1: Simmons was convicted of a misdemeanor or felony. And yet,
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Speaker 1: in addition to the battery rap, Simmons charged with possession
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Speaker 1: of controlled substance after search turned up a small amount
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Speaker 1: of a chucky substance police identified as cocaine. He was
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Speaker 1: locked up a little of a five thousand dollars bond
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Speaker 1: on both the battery and drug counts. Just, Joe, do
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Speaker 1: you think there will be protesters in the street on
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Speaker 1: that one? You're surprised he wasn't shot fair enough, Jack,
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Speaker 1: Welcome to the morning show. Thank you for calling me
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Speaker 1: this morning.
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Speaker 4: Welcome, good morning. How are you.
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Speaker 1: I'm doing as well as I can possibly be today?
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Speaker 1: Baffled in, baffled and perplexed.
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Speaker 8: But yes, well, I just wanted to let anyone listening know,
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Speaker 8: don't go out unless you really have to. I'm delivering medication,
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Speaker 8: so I'm on like an emergency call. I got to
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Speaker 8: go all the way to Milford and then I got
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Speaker 8: to take this blood work from the nursing home all
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Speaker 8: the way back to North ben Road to the hospital.
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Speaker 8: And that's the only reason.
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Speaker 3: Why I'm out here.
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Speaker 8: But I drive a four wheel drive to Liota, and
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Speaker 8: if you are in a car, you are going to
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Speaker 8: get stuck because like Route fifty right now, I'm coming
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Speaker 8: in towards Cincinnati, it's one little lane.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's.
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Speaker 8: Not even a full Lane's just tire tracks and all
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Speaker 8: of the debris from the snowplows that are on the
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Speaker 8: side streets. You're not coming off of a side street.
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Speaker 8: You're not pulling into a gas station. There's literally no
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Speaker 8: reason for anyone to be out unless they truly, truly have.
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Speaker 1: To sounder words never spoken, Jack and a morning on
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Speaker 1: a morning where we are perplexed. I want to thank
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Speaker 1: you for what you are doing for those people who
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Speaker 1: are struggling to survive and keeping people alive Beyond folks
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Speaker 1: like you, I'm with you all day long. Jack, try
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Speaker 1: to stay off the roads.
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Speaker 8: Well, thank you. I do want to add one more thing. Yeah,
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Speaker 8: it was rumored that Grandy's helping people get up to
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Speaker 8: hill and Price Hill. But don't believe that I have
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Speaker 8: not seen Granny pushing any cars anywhere. So if you
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Speaker 8: come out and this, you're on your own.
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Speaker 1: You're on your own. Jack, Thank you man. You're putting
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Speaker 1: Uh and you know, just a double down on a
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Speaker 1: point that Jack made. You're you're probably not going to
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Speaker 1: be able to pull into the gas station. I heard
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Speaker 1: Tom Brenneman complaining about that earlier. He comes off of
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Speaker 1: the main road and then there's just a wall of snow,
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Speaker 1: which is the entire parking lot where the gas station is.
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Speaker 1: So most of the places you think be plowed probably
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Speaker 1: have not been plowed. Those plowing services were taxed to
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Speaker 1: I mean even the private ones working twenty four to seven.
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Speaker 1: So the likelihood of your destination being fully plowed and
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Speaker 1: ready to go probably slim. Stay off the roads if possible.
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Speaker 1: Florida teenager behind bars this after hitting her mom with
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Speaker 1: a pork chop. We moved from a pack how are
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Speaker 1: you doing? Pack ketchup to a pork job. They're calling
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Speaker 1: a domestic battery, accorded to police, Eighteen year old Farah
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Speaker 1: Kernan arrested for battery following a disturbance at the Jensen
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Speaker 1: Beach home she shares with the forty six year old victim.
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Speaker 1: Her mom now walked up in the Martin County jail
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Speaker 1: on a twenty five hundred dollars bond, A corded probably
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Speaker 1: will cause ALFI David. Kernan's mom told police that she
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Speaker 1: had been involved in a verbal dispute with her daughter
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Speaker 1: and who she said had been drinking alcohol earlier in
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Speaker 1: the day. During that argument, the woman alleged Canin smacked
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Speaker 1: her in the face and threw a pork chop at her.
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Speaker 1: At least on the scene served food residue on the
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Speaker 1: victim's left shoulder, which was consistent with her statement. I
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Speaker 1: think they did a DNA analysis to determine it was
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Speaker 1: in fact a pork chop. Joe, is there a specific
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Speaker 1: DNA evidence for a montgomery In pork chop? I know
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Speaker 1: you wouldn't throw them, you would eat them. That makes
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Speaker 1: sense anyway, I've been questioned by police. Carnin appeared to
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Speaker 1: be confused and became emotionally upset, began screaming and crying,
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Speaker 1: and continued to act uncooperatively. Friend of the victim president
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Speaker 1: the residence recorded the video of Kernan's striking her mom.
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Speaker 1: I guess, taking out of the question about whether or
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Speaker 1: not it actually happened. Karenin arrested last year for trespassing
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Speaker 1: on the Jensen Best Beach Causeway, a day after being
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Speaker 1: issued trespassed warning for a physical altercation with another female
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Speaker 1: as part of a deferred prosecution agreement. She was ordered
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Speaker 1: to perform fifty hours of community service. There's the answer
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Speaker 1: more to talk about, and I welcome here just to
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Speaker 1: discuss this Minneapolis thing. I'm looking forward to other people's
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Speaker 1: thoughts and observations, and will pivot over to Barack Obama
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Speaker 1: telling basically people to double down. And again I keep
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Speaker 1: asking myself there's something more nefarious going on here, and
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Speaker 1: I will again point to the global population. Generally, you
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Speaker 1: can get enough thousands of people to show up for
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Speaker 1: literally anything, and that may stand to reason here too. Yes,
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Speaker 1: there's a whole bunch of angry, violent leftists out there, coordinated.
34:29
Speaker 1: They are a well oiled machine of activism. What are
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Speaker 1: they fighting for? Why would you want to interject yourself
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Speaker 1: in this? Why would you want to put yourself in
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Speaker 1: a position where you're you are putting yourself in a
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Speaker 1: position where the law enforcement agents, this particular case, ICE
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Speaker 1: agents who you hate and you think are terrible, and
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Speaker 1: you think that are untrained and incompetent. Why would you
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Speaker 1: go into a situation where one of these untrained, incompetent,
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Speaker 1: in your mind, unlawful individuals armed they are enforcing federal
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Speaker 1: la exposing yourself to a situation. Maybe along the lines
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Speaker 1: of what happened on Saturday. You're giving him an opportunity
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Speaker 1: to be incompetent in your life. Maybe the price for
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Speaker 1: their incompetence is that smart. Is it worth it? And
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Speaker 1: if it's worth it, break down the cost benefit analysis
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Speaker 1: for me? What do you want to achieve through these protests?
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Speaker 1: you stay the hell off the roads. You get a
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Speaker 1: free pass Level three snow emergency for Hamilton County. Generally speaking,
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Speaker 1: I personally witness the roads coming in. If you have
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Speaker 1: to be on the roads, you're gonna wish he didn't.
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Speaker 1: Thanks to all those folks out there, first responders, people
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Speaker 1: working in the medical profession people like Jack who called
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Speaker 1: in earlier, who are busy delivering medicine to those in need. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: those are the people that need to be out there.
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Speaker 1: So if he can keep the roads clear by you
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Speaker 1: not being on them, that is doing society a huge favor.
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Speaker 1: So this too shall pass. According to Joe Strecker, he
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Speaker 1: looked at the map, the City of Cincinnati's map, and
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Speaker 1: if you live in the West End, Corey Bouman, are
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Speaker 1: you out there? Apparently they've completely ignored the entire West End,
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Speaker 1: the whole area around TQL Stadium. So how coming is
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Speaker 1: the West End always gets a short end of the
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Speaker 1: stick there? Joe Strekker five one, three, seven, four, nine
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Speaker 1: AT and T phones. Yeah, and as I struggle to
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Speaker 1: deal with this reality go on to many it appears
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Speaker 1: that they got the martyr they were looking for, and
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Speaker 1: they were really hoping for this. Those love he left
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Speaker 1: us in the streets. They want someone to be the
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Speaker 1: George Floyd that they never really got out of George Floyd.
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Speaker 1: So we're not pivoting, we're not talking about law enforcement
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Speaker 1: generally speaking. And how is it that we were supposed
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Speaker 1: to demonize entire law enforcement officers. Everyone who wore the
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Speaker 1: uniform and the badge of a police officer during these
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Speaker 1: Antifa protests and BOLM protests, they were all evil police
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Speaker 1: officers generally speaking. Defund the police, let's just get rid
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Speaker 1: of them. What is the result of that? Eradication of
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Speaker 1: law enforcement worked out real well for California? Right? I mean,
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Speaker 1: they decriminalize stealing stuff. What happens, right, crime gets rampant,
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Speaker 1: They defund the police, feer police on the streets, fewer
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Speaker 1: support for law enforcement. Guess what, the cities go to
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Speaker 1: hell in a handbasket, lots of laws being broken in
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Speaker 1: the aftermath of that. Is that what we want? That's
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Speaker 1: why I'm struggling so mightily about these efforts to disrupt
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Speaker 1: ice from doing their job. Then you get the message
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Speaker 1: or trying to arrest bad guys what possible? But motive
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Speaker 1: or benefit does it give you to go and try
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Speaker 1: to stop them from doing what they're doing. It only
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Speaker 1: makes the situation that much works, and it only makes
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Speaker 1: it more likely that something like this is gonna happen. Ah,
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Speaker 1: Now they can scream victory. Do you want to eradicate
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Speaker 1: ice because of Again, let's just say, and I know
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Speaker 1: there's still arguments swirling around that Alex pretty was not
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Speaker 1: was improperly shot. There should not have been the use
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Speaker 1: of deadly force under the circumstances. Is your reaction to that, Oh, look, look,
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Speaker 1: we've got a bad egg among the ice. We need
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Speaker 1: to get rid of all of ice. There will be
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Speaker 1: no more immigration to customs enforcement period and of story.
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Speaker 1: Is that what society in America really wants? I just
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Speaker 1: can't swallow that. Let's pivot of to Barack Obama. Hmm,
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Speaker 1: this is a mixed bag of insanity what he had
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Speaker 1: to say. Every American should support and draw inspiration from
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Speaker 1: the wave of peaceful protests in Minneapolis. Huh. Well, I
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Speaker 1: suppose it's a subjective definition of peaceful, isn't it. Are
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Speaker 1: some of the protesters peaceful?
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Speaker 8: Yes?
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Speaker 1: Are some of them violent disruptive? Are some of them
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Speaker 1: breaking laws in their protests?
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Speaker 9: Yes?
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Speaker 1: So you can debate about that, but we should be
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Speaker 1: inspired by people going to the streets to try to
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Speaker 1: prevent the elimination of criminal elements in our neighborhoods. He said,
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Speaker 1: the killing of Alex Pratty is a heartbreaking tragedy. Okay,
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Speaker 1: I'll acknowledge that it should be a wake up call
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Speaker 1: to every American, regardless of party, that many of our
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Speaker 1: core values as a nation are increasingly under assault. Huh,
40:15
Speaker 1: what does removing individuals who are not lawfully in our country,
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Speaker 1: who are demonstrably violent or have demonstrably or proven themselves
40:25
Speaker 1: rather to be criminal. Cities and states where criminal convicted
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Speaker 1: in jail serving their time, illegal immigrants are being let
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Speaker 1: out on the street rather than being handed over to
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Speaker 1: ice to have them removed from society. Is that why
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Speaker 1: you're taking it to the streets. You want these criminal
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Speaker 1: illegal aliens roaming around after having served their jail time.
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Speaker 1: There is a lawful justification for removing them from our country.
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Speaker 1: They committed a crime while they were here illegally. Is
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Speaker 1: that a core value amongst yourselves? He said. Federal law
41:03
Speaker 1: and sport enforcement and immigration agents have a tough job. Well,
41:05
Speaker 1: at least he acknowledge that, But of course there's a butt.
41:09
Speaker 1: Americans expect them to carry out their duties in a lawful,
41:12
Speaker 1: accountable way and to work. This is the great part. Yeah,
41:15
Speaker 1: we do expect them to carry out their duties. We
41:17
Speaker 1: do expect them to carry them out in a lawful,
41:19
Speaker 1: accountable way. And we like to think that local law
41:21
Speaker 1: enforcement will be busy dealing with the enforcement of local
41:25
Speaker 1: laws while ICE goes about the business of enforcing federal laws.
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Speaker 1: Not happening in Minnesota, where the mayor and the governor
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Speaker 1: and everybody else in the entire Minnesota elected official administration
41:36
Speaker 1: has come out actively against ICE and supporting protesters taken
41:39
Speaker 1: into the streets and interrupt their jobs. But Americans is
41:45
Speaker 1: going to carry their duties in alawful accountable way. And
41:46
Speaker 1: to work with rather than against this is it? And
41:49
Speaker 1: Brock said to work with rather than against state and
41:55
Speaker 1: local officials to ensure public safety. That sounds me like
41:58
Speaker 1: he's telling Tim Walltz, you should be working with ICE
42:03
Speaker 1: to ensure public safety, because eliminating criminal, illegal aliens from
42:07
Speaker 1: our city streets is about public safety. Myriad of other
42:13
Speaker 1: things too, like budgeting schools, education, housing, the fact that
42:18
Speaker 1: just so many illegal immigrants are using the teat of
42:21
Speaker 1: welfare system to support their very existence. That's on your dime,
42:26
Speaker 1: stating the obvious. For weeks now, you said, people across
42:35
Speaker 1: this country have been rightly outraged by the spectacle of
42:39
Speaker 1: massed ICE recruits and other federal agians acting with impunity
42:43
Speaker 1: and engaging in tactics that seem designed to intimidate, harass, provoked,
42:48
Speaker 1: and endanger the residents of major American cities. Well, isn't
42:54
Speaker 1: that what the mob is doing? I mean, there's two
43:00
Speaker 1: sides of this, coin, man. These are unprecedented tactics and
43:07
Speaker 1: have now resulted in the fatal shooting of two citizens.
43:11
Speaker 1: Unprecedented tactics. Yeah, the coordinated effort to get people off
43:14
Speaker 1: of their butts out into the street to protest ICE
43:17
Speaker 1: doing their job and interfere with them. I mean, Samie,
43:21
Speaker 1: what about Alex Pretty? He did get involved and lay
43:24
Speaker 1: hands on ICE agents. Bra continues, And yet, rather than
43:31
Speaker 1: trying to impose some semblance of discipline accountability over the
43:34
Speaker 1: agents they've deployed, the president of the current administration, officials
43:38
Speaker 1: seem eager to escalate the situation while offering public explanations
43:41
Speaker 1: for the shooting of mister Pretty and Renee Good that
43:45
Speaker 1: aren't informed by any serious investigation and appear to be
43:49
Speaker 1: directly contradicted by the video evidence. Now give him his
43:52
Speaker 1: due when it comes to Alex Pretty. But renee Good
43:57
Speaker 1: did floor the vehicle at the other ICE officer, you know,
44:03
Speaker 1: there will be an investigation into that, and at some
44:05
Speaker 1: point in time there will be some form of you know,
44:08
Speaker 1: finding and that one hasn't you know, been concluded yet.
44:11
Speaker 1: Renee Goods question mark Still Alex pretty doesn't look as
44:17
Speaker 1: good for ICE. I feel sorry for the officer who
44:21
Speaker 1: was stupid enough to unload on that guy. There were
44:23
Speaker 1: four or five other ICE agents that had him on
44:25
Speaker 1: the ground. One of the ICE agents had taken the
44:27
Speaker 1: guy's firearm away from him, and you can't use hindsight
44:30
Speaker 1: to justify whether or not he appropriately had a firearm
44:33
Speaker 1: lawful concealed carry he was. I don't know if he
44:37
Speaker 1: had an idea on him. I don't think that matters,
44:39
Speaker 1: because under the circumstances, the ICE agents had no idea
44:42
Speaker 1: that he was even armed up until the moment of
44:45
Speaker 1: time they were on top of him, and that's when
44:46
Speaker 1: they found the gun on him. At least that's the
44:49
Speaker 1: way it seems in all the video, and that's most
44:52
Speaker 1: of the conclusions they're being drawn. You can't call him
44:57
Speaker 1: a domestic terrorist. There's nothing in his back have to
45:00
Speaker 1: support that. Barack Obama, this has to stop. I would
45:12
Speaker 1: hope that after this most recent tragedy administration officials will
45:15
Speaker 1: reconsider their approach and start finding ways to work constructively
45:23
Speaker 1: with Governor Walls and Mayor Fry, as well as a
45:26
Speaker 1: state and local police to avert more cast and achieve
45:28
Speaker 1: legitimate law enforcement goals. Well, I would argue that because
45:33
Speaker 1: it's a federal law being enforced, that is a legitimate
45:36
Speaker 1: law enforcement goal, most notably if you're going after the
45:38
Speaker 1: worst of the worst, And insofar as working constructively, who
45:41
Speaker 1: has been a bigger impediment to working constructively with ICE
45:44
Speaker 1: than Governor Walts and Mayor Fry in the first place.
45:48
Speaker 1: They're the ones that are egging people on to do
45:50
Speaker 1: what exactly the exactly what got Alex Preddie killed. Hank,
45:57
Speaker 1: I see her on the line. I am out of time,
45:58
Speaker 1: but I would be more than happy to take your
46:00
Speaker 1: call when we get back, because I'm really curious to
46:02
Speaker 1: know what people think about this and what are they
46:04
Speaker 1: protesting about.
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Speaker 10: Fifty five KRZ Deep Talk Station.
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Speaker 1: At six twenty fifty five krc Detalk Station. Yes, it
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Speaker 1: is weird. Saw someone post on Facebook, Isn't it strange?
46:16
Speaker 1: ICE is operating in dozens of states, but it's only
46:19
Speaker 1: violent in the one where Nick Shirley uncovered a billion
46:22
Speaker 1: dollar fraud ring with links to Governor Tim Waltz. Yeah,
46:24
Speaker 1: there may be something there there, but you may be
46:27
Speaker 1: distracted by this. It is certainly a dominant topic or conversation, Hank,
46:30
Speaker 1: hold on, but that fraud thing ain't going away. They
46:35
Speaker 1: can wish and hope and pray all day long that
46:37
Speaker 1: the federal government is not going to crack down on
46:39
Speaker 1: the fraud wasted abuse that has only been revealed on
46:42
Speaker 1: its surface so far. It might extend out to multiple
46:45
Speaker 1: other states. We as taxpayers, regardless of politics, should be
46:50
Speaker 1: collectively outraged that it could happen in the first place. Hank,
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Speaker 1: thanks for calling this morning. Welcome to the Morning Show.
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Speaker 11: Thanks Brian, gives you a night. So this whole thing
47:01
Speaker 11: boils down from near as I can tell, to just
47:03
Speaker 11: relevance the people that are protesting there, I guess you
47:08
Speaker 11: could say envious of their grandparents that we're forefronts and
47:14
Speaker 11: the civil rights issues and then later the Vietnam War
47:19
Speaker 11: peace riots, and in Obama's case, I think a lot
47:23
Speaker 11: of it has to do which is keeping the propaganda
47:25
Speaker 11: going to defeat Republicans. I think a lot of this
47:29
Speaker 11: is just politics and it's being used, it's not really
47:33
Speaker 11: genuine obviously, with a lot of the protesters being paid.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you all day long about that.
47:42
Speaker 1: I mean, some of them, it's just something to rage against,
47:45
Speaker 1: you know, rage against the machine. I'm angry and I
47:47
Speaker 1: need something to be angry about, and the status quo
47:50
Speaker 1: is pissing me off. So fine, there's always going to
47:52
Speaker 1: be that element. But what do they hope to accomplish
47:55
Speaker 1: by these paid protests? What do they hope to accomplish
47:57
Speaker 1: by it? Or do they want to disrupt that it?
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Speaker 11: Like I said, it's a matter of irrelevance. It's it's
48:03
Speaker 11: it's their emotional need to feel like they're standing up
48:09
Speaker 11: in their grandparents' footsteps. Excuse me, but.
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Speaker 1: There's not that significant number of people out there that
48:15
Speaker 1: believe that. I keep going back to our our United
48:18
Speaker 1: States population, relative to the number of people on the streets,
48:21
Speaker 1: what percentage of Americans out there feel the way that
48:24
Speaker 1: type of person feels. Do you think there's that many
48:27
Speaker 1: people out there just want to protest for the sake
48:29
Speaker 1: of protest, or they do they have a goal they
48:31
Speaker 1: want to accomplish, or they just you know, bored. But
48:34
Speaker 1: how does the general Americans.
48:36
Speaker 11: That's actually but I think that's actually a lot of it.
48:40
Speaker 11: I think a lot of this too. Is this what
48:42
Speaker 11: they call astro turf protesters? Yeah, these are a lot
48:45
Speaker 11: of these people are there getting paid to do this.
48:48
Speaker 1: I understand they weren't.
48:48
Speaker 11: Protesting this, it would be something else.
48:51
Speaker 1: I feel. Okay, okay, okay, okay, I agree with all.
48:53
Speaker 1: I'm not disputing your statement. What I'm what I'm saying
48:57
Speaker 1: is does that telegraph and does that result in vults
49:00
Speaker 1: votes for Democrats across the broader American voting public. That's
49:05
Speaker 1: the thing I struggle with. I keep reading article after article.
49:08
Speaker 1: Democrats more likely to take over the House because of
49:10
Speaker 1: this stuff, because of these angry people.
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Speaker 11: Anti people vote on their emotions a lot. That's the
49:19
Speaker 11: reason we have a lot of the problems we have
49:21
Speaker 11: in this country right now is because people are voting
49:25
Speaker 11: based on an emotional rather than an intellectual situation. They
49:31
Speaker 11: want to feel good about what they're voting for in
49:34
Speaker 11: spite of the fact that what they're voting for may
49:36
Speaker 11: actually be destroying the country.
49:39
Speaker 1: That's because they haven't paid close enough attention to the
49:42
Speaker 1: facts behind the emotion. That's a sad state of affairs.
49:47
Speaker 11: I think a lot of it in that case has
49:49
Speaker 11: to do with as I've said earlier, is in another
49:53
Speaker 11: call is mental illness. I think basically they're so narcissistic
49:58
Speaker 11: that they just plain old don't believe that. They think
50:01
Speaker 11: their emotions matter more than facts. You can throw facts
50:05
Speaker 11: at them all day long and they they'll just call
50:08
Speaker 11: you a racist or a bigot or whatever is appropriate
50:12
Speaker 11: for that particular argument. But the fact of the matter is,
50:16
Speaker 11: I think mostly it's just a matter of mentally ill
50:20
Speaker 11: people that need attention. They want to act like they're
50:24
Speaker 11: doing something that's a great favor to society or human race.
50:31
Speaker 11: It takes the place of religion in a lot of cases,
50:34
Speaker 11: this is their religion. It's basically fighting against Republicans.
50:39
Speaker 1: Certainly fighting against Donald Trump, that's for sure. But again
50:44
Speaker 1: I would see I see through all this crap. It
50:48
Speaker 1: is it's emotion, it's not fact base. Do they really
50:51
Speaker 1: really really want to get rid of all the ice ages,
50:53
Speaker 1: all the lawenforce And that's the default position you have
50:55
Speaker 1: to go to if you follow their emotion, which doesn't
50:58
Speaker 1: make any damn sense to me, because we're all far
51:00
Speaker 1: more vulnerable and in a far worse state. If we
51:03
Speaker 1: don't enforce laws in this country, the whole thing collapses
51:05
Speaker 1: on itself. And ultimately, I think that's what the goal
51:09
Speaker 1: is for the leftists. Least are the ones that the
51:10
Speaker 1: ones that are stirring the pot. They want this great experiment,
51:13
Speaker 1: now two hundred and fifty years in the making, to fail.
51:17
Speaker 1: It has done so well in spite of what the
51:20
Speaker 1: leftists want and their socialists utopia, that it fails when
51:24
Speaker 1: you're looking at life, economics, business freedoms, liberties through a
51:29
Speaker 1: factual lens as opposed to an emotional lens. Communists, Socialists, Marxists,
51:35
Speaker 1: they're all about emotion. And when you look at it
51:37
Speaker 1: and you apply their economic theories and you put them
51:41
Speaker 1: to the actual test by employing them in running any
51:44
Speaker 1: given country, they collapse on themselves to the benefit of
51:50
Speaker 1: no One's at New Hampshire. Gary's on the phone, Hang on,
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Speaker 1: buddy and get your call. Next five one, three, seven, four,
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Speaker 1: nine fifty five hundred ET detalk station by Thomas right here,
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Speaker 1: wishing Eady a happy Monday, and startingly recommended you stay
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Speaker 1: off the roads. Gentleman by the name of Jack, who
52:05
Speaker 1: was out delivering much needed medical supplies to folks that
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Speaker 1: are stuck in their homes. Strongly encourage everyone to stay off.
52:13
Speaker 1: It's terrible out there, he said. He called back. He
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Speaker 1: told Joe as soon as he crossed the bridge into Kentucky,
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Speaker 1: all the roads were cleaned. I'm not saying he folks
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Speaker 1: completely authority as to all the roads in northern Kentucky.
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Speaker 1: But I think Joe suggested maybe that was Was that
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Speaker 1: a reflection of incompetence on this side of the river.
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Speaker 1: Joe's that is that the conclusion he drew there. It
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Speaker 1: is on the nose New Hampshire, Gary, thanks for calling
52:36
Speaker 1: this morning, and a happy Monday to usurpe. You're dealing
52:39
Speaker 1: okay with the weather up there.
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Speaker 4: We survived white deep.
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Speaker 6: I'm on the highway going to work now. It's just
52:46
Speaker 6: something you gotta do. Yeah, well, you're more used the
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Speaker 6: roads clear up here.
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Speaker 1: Well, you're better at it in New Hampshire than we
52:53
Speaker 1: are here. I would imagine.
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Speaker 6: I followed eight snowflowers, one behind you.
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Speaker 4: There was a It was a beautiful thing. We know
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Speaker 4: how to do it.
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Speaker 1: That's how you get the job done. What's on your
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Speaker 1: mind today?
53:07
Speaker 9: There?
53:08
Speaker 4: Get the job done. I talk to somebody who is
53:12
Speaker 4: near and dear to my heart, destiny pastors.
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Speaker 6: And it's such a strong thing that's going on in
53:20
Speaker 6: the country with the ice and illegal it has caused
53:25
Speaker 6: a rift between us somewhat, and it breaks my heart.
53:30
Speaker 4: All right.
53:31
Speaker 6: I can tell you, based on everybody I work at
53:34
Speaker 6: at work, that half this country believes everything. They don't
53:40
Speaker 6: believe that the illegal immigrants are breaking time. They don't
53:45
Speaker 6: even believe that there's fraud, massive fraud going on.
53:49
Speaker 4: They don't believe that they're state protesters.
53:52
Speaker 6: They don't believe and they do believe that this is
53:55
Speaker 6: all a riff going on, that with the Republics or
54:01
Speaker 6: the Trump administration was the actual words.
54:04
Speaker 4: This is a rip because they're.
54:06
Speaker 6: Taking advantage so that nobody looks at the Epstein files.
54:12
Speaker 6: That's well, you can laugh at it, but that's their belief.
54:17
Speaker 6: That really frightens me is these people are now talking
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Speaker 6: civil war revolutions and all this not. It doesn't matter
54:27
Speaker 6: what I want, It matters what they think.
54:31
Speaker 4: If you think there's.
54:32
Speaker 6: A bear on the other side of the door and
54:35
Speaker 6: you open the door and you die of a heart attack,
54:37
Speaker 6: that bear doesn't matter if it's real or not. It
54:41
Speaker 6: really matters that you're dead right, and this is how
54:45
Speaker 6: war begins. You know, the first casualty of.
54:50
Speaker 4: All wars is the truth, right.
54:53
Speaker 6: And I see a lot of I see this country
54:58
Speaker 6: ripping itself apart.
54:59
Speaker 4: Because of it.
55:00
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I think that.
55:02
Speaker 4: To a lot of people, that's what they want.
55:05
Speaker 1: That's exactly right. I am thoroughly convinced that what they
55:07
Speaker 1: want me. They even said that earlier in the program.
55:10
Speaker 1: There's no doubt in my mind.
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Speaker 6: I would say, and I would go further and saying,
55:15
Speaker 6: not only is it what they want, but it works
55:18
Speaker 6: all the propaganda.
55:19
Speaker 12: Between the schools, a media.
55:23
Speaker 4: Your news, it works. It is working. We're losing.
55:28
Speaker 6: We're losing because they came out with an ice. They
55:32
Speaker 6: want to really do away with ice. They do, and
55:34
Speaker 6: then that's not all they want to do. They really
55:37
Speaker 6: want to start a revolution. Like Tim Walls, who I
55:41
Speaker 6: believe is a Chinese plant because he spent most of
55:44
Speaker 6: his life and when I say Chinese plant, he had
55:48
Speaker 6: girl Chinese girlfriends from high executive you know, council and China.
55:54
Speaker 6: He spent a lot of time over in China. He's
55:58
Speaker 6: got a lot of dealings with China. And you know,
56:02
Speaker 6: I see stuff like this, and of course they're gonna
56:04
Speaker 6: whip it up and some alleagues and all this. It
56:08
Speaker 6: is to divide and conquer. And they're doing a pretty
56:11
Speaker 6: good job.
56:12
Speaker 1: Oh there is no question they aren't doing a great job.
56:15
Speaker 1: And it is really sad. That's why I laughed out loud.
56:17
Speaker 1: I mean, I've seen a lot of people put you know,
56:19
Speaker 1: try to draw arrows and connect with something else completely
56:23
Speaker 1: unrelated to the ice protests, with the ice protest, like, oh,
56:26
Speaker 1: this is really why they're out in the street, or
56:28
Speaker 1: that's why they're really out in the street. I'm sorry
56:30
Speaker 1: for laughing. So a lot about Epstein files. That's obviously
56:33
Speaker 1: a source of disagreement between me and the Trump administration.
56:36
Speaker 1: You know, if if they're at the root of all evil,
56:39
Speaker 1: then I even want to see them more than I
56:41
Speaker 1: did previously. So my apologies for laughing at that. But yeah,
56:46
Speaker 1: I think hear that all right. But why would they
56:53
Speaker 1: you know, It's like Margaret Thatcher used to say, you know,
56:55
Speaker 1: the bad thing about socialism. Socialism is you end up
56:58
Speaker 1: running out of other people's money. Don't these crazies see
57:04
Speaker 1: the next step? Do they ever divorce themselves from the
57:08
Speaker 1: religion long enough to appreciate. Well, wait a second. If
57:12
Speaker 1: I get my goal, which is the elimination of whatever
57:16
Speaker 1: is then in their minds the United States of America,
57:18
Speaker 1: the elimination of the Constitution, the eradication of our freedom's
57:21
Speaker 1: rights and liberties, taking away of all of our rights
57:23
Speaker 1: to keeping bare arms, go on and on and on
57:25
Speaker 1: and on, and we start redistributing the wealth of those
57:28
Speaker 1: who make money in this country. That you defeat the
57:32
Speaker 1: actual goal of one of you have to make money,
57:34
Speaker 1: it's to be able to benefit yourself, and then all
57:38
Speaker 1: the welfare collapses, all the social programs have to go
57:41
Speaker 1: away because nobody's producing anymore. See history as a guide.
57:49
Speaker 1: But I guess they're that dumb. A lot of people
57:53
Speaker 1: in the world have gone down that path to their
57:54
Speaker 1: own peril then as well. It's a great example of
57:58
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Speaker 1: Here's the statement from a friend that I dearly love
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Speaker 1: good Man served his country in the uniform. He's got
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Speaker 1: several years on me, but he's a little more liberal
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Speaker 1: than I am. Well, he said, yeah, this is no
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Speaker 1: longer this is no longer recognizable as a country. I
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Speaker 1: wore the unitform four fifty plus years ago. Thank Heavens
58:42
Speaker 1: for brave citizens risking their lives to get videos so
58:44
Speaker 1: we can all see with our own eyes. Well, and
58:48
Speaker 1: if that's the motivation of people to be in the
58:50
Speaker 1: streets to videotape what ICE is doing, of course you
58:54
Speaker 1: have the First Amendment right free assembly, free exercise, free speech.
58:57
Speaker 1: Public recordings are not private. You can go out and
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Speaker 1: about and record publicly. People do it every damn day.
59:03
Speaker 1: We know that all the time because literally everything is
59:05
Speaker 1: on video. So I don't even a problem with people
59:07
Speaker 1: doing that. I think we all want white a law enforcement,
59:11
Speaker 1: whether it's ICE or local law enforcement, to follow the
59:14
Speaker 1: law and not use deadly force if it's not necessary
59:18
Speaker 1: or reasonable. Fine, if it takes a public element, public
59:22
Speaker 1: watchdog with video cameras to stand around make sure that's
59:25
Speaker 1: being done all day, you're allowed. Just don't interfere with
59:28
Speaker 1: them doing their job. That's what it hits the fan.
59:34
Speaker 1: But this more importantly goes to my point all along.
59:36
Speaker 1: And thank god if it gets passed, because now the
59:38
Speaker 1: Democrats are talking about shutting down the federal government because
59:41
Speaker 1: they want to defund ICE completely. Oh were they looking
59:45
Speaker 1: for an excuse to stop the government When they were
59:47
Speaker 1: on it looked like a greased path to get the
59:49
Speaker 1: government funded fully. But part of the funding included millions
59:54
Speaker 1: of dollars for ICE agents to have body cameras. And
1:00:00
Speaker 1: wouldn't that go a long way to solve some of
1:00:02
Speaker 1: the issues swirling about the conduct of ICE officers. I
1:00:05
Speaker 1: know it wouldn't fully satisfy the left. Oh my god,
1:00:08
Speaker 1: they're not going to turn their cameras on or they're
1:00:10
Speaker 1: going to alter evidence or whatever. Yeah, but since a
1:00:14
Speaker 1: police department wears video camera, that's not a problem for them.
1:00:17
Speaker 1: In fact, pointed out many times to say it again,
1:00:21
Speaker 1: it's benefited the members of law enforcement more than harm
1:00:23
Speaker 1: them in any way, shape or form. They know they
1:00:27
Speaker 1: are being watched because they're the ones that are the watchers.
1:00:29
Speaker 1: They're video cameraing everything they're doing while they're engaged in
1:00:33
Speaker 1: their work. I call that a good thing. It protects
1:00:37
Speaker 1: members of the public from rogue, crazy police officers, maybe
1:00:41
Speaker 1: racist ones, not all of them are. We know that
1:00:46
Speaker 1: provide's a foundation for evidence should something happen, and honestly,
1:00:51
Speaker 1: if they were ubiquitous, it would alleviate the need for
1:00:54
Speaker 1: people to stand around on their own free time video
1:00:56
Speaker 1: cameraing ICE or police doing their job. But this is
1:01:04
Speaker 1: beyond video cameras and filming what ICE is doing. This
1:01:09
Speaker 1: is getting in roadways, this is blocking their vehicles, this
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Speaker 1: is calling the police, dosing them or swatting them. It's
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Speaker 1: harassing them. It's going to hotels and telling the hotels
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Speaker 1: that they better damn well kick the ICE agents out
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Speaker 1: or they're going to have a riot on their hands. See,
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Speaker 1: that's beyond the pale. I think that, quite honestly, by
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Speaker 1: threatening people is beyond the protections offered by the First
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Speaker 1: Amendment to a large degree six forty five fifty five KRC.
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Speaker 1: The talk it's fifty here, fifty five KRCD talk station.
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Speaker 1: FOP president Ken Kober returns to the program after the
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Speaker 1: top of the hour news talk about the rules of
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Speaker 1: engagement and what should be the rules of engagement for
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Speaker 1: protesters given what went on in minute Minneapolis. Ongoing interference
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Speaker 1: with ICE agents. Again, standing by and watching them is
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Speaker 1: different than interfering with them, And of course the minute
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Speaker 1: you start interfering, that's when bad things happen. Logical and
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Speaker 1: reasonable people might consider the well, maybe I don't want
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Speaker 1: to interfere with ICE might be a bad thing, because
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Speaker 1: you know, those ICE agents are all untrained and they
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Speaker 1: don't know what the hell they're doing. So that would
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Speaker 1: mean I am intentionally getting into a situation involving an
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Speaker 1: unstable ICE agent, and I might get killed because they're
1:02:28
Speaker 1: all out to murder us. So why would you do that? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: I know. So, as we watch the ever growing division
1:02:41
Speaker 1: in this country, one thing that I think we all
1:02:43
Speaker 1: need to be thoughtful and happy of that we have
1:02:47
Speaker 1: a at least a reasonable supply of energy. And I
1:02:50
Speaker 1: got it. I was happy to move and pivot away
1:02:52
Speaker 1: from this for this Minneapolis thing, just for a moment
1:02:54
Speaker 1: and think again. The editorial board of The Wall Street
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Speaker 1: Journal for acknowledging this. This weekend's our Glasses put much
1:03:00
Speaker 1: of the United States grid through a stress test and
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Speaker 1: served as another alert about the growing risks to electric
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Speaker 1: power reliability. Americans can be grateful the Biden crowd didn't
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Speaker 1: succeed in forcing all coal plants to shut down. North
1:03:14
Speaker 1: American Energy Electric Reliability Corp. Worn in November that extreme
1:03:17
Speaker 1: winter conditions extending over a wide area could result in
1:03:20
Speaker 1: electricity supply shortfalls, and that's what happened. Ridge temperature supercharged
1:03:25
Speaker 1: and manned areas where Americans use electricity for heating, especially
1:03:28
Speaker 1: in Texas, in the Northeast and Midwest, where more people
1:03:31
Speaker 1: get heat from natural gas. Less fuel was available from
1:03:35
Speaker 1: power plants at weather cost plant outages and you have
1:03:38
Speaker 1: all the ingredients for a grid emergency. Grid operators, the utilities,
1:03:41
Speaker 1: and the Trumpet Energy Department had to pull out all
1:03:44
Speaker 1: stops to keep the lights and heat on for tens
1:03:46
Speaker 1: of millions of Americans. Utilities in the Midwest on Saturday
1:03:50
Speaker 1: directed customers and lower thermostats unplugged non essential appliance has
1:03:54
Speaker 1: reduced temperature settings to on electric water heaters. Hope you
1:03:57
Speaker 1: enjoy lukewarm showers and curling up in a heavy coat
1:04:00
Speaker 1: with a book. Energy Department also waved emissions rules. This
1:04:03
Speaker 1: is critical. Check this out. Waved emission rules so fossil
1:04:07
Speaker 1: fuel plants could run at maximum capacity early Sunday morning
1:04:11
Speaker 1: call accounted for some forty percent of power in the
1:04:14
Speaker 1: Midwest MISO Grid, twenty four percent in the eastern US
1:04:17
Speaker 1: PJAM Intercontinent Interconnection, and eighteen percent in Texas, with most
1:04:22
Speaker 1: of the rest coming from natural gas and nuclear. Didn't
1:04:25
Speaker 1: see windmills in there, did you. New York's back blockade
1:04:29
Speaker 1: on gas pipelines has constrained the fuel supply for power
1:04:32
Speaker 1: plants across New England. Power plants in the region had
1:04:35
Speaker 1: to resort to burning oil, which accounted for forty percent
1:04:37
Speaker 1: of electricity at times of peak demand. Get this, The
1:04:41
Speaker 1: region generated more power from burning wood and trash than
1:04:44
Speaker 1: from wind power. Little dose reality setting in there. Climate
1:04:50
Speaker 1: Crown claims that solar, wind and batteries can replace fossil fuels,
1:04:53
Speaker 1: with those sources contributed little power in most places over
1:04:56
Speaker 1: the weekend. Wind and solar are not reliable during inclement weather.
1:04:59
Speaker 1: Batteries can discharge power only for a few hours at
1:05:02
Speaker 1: a time, which doesn't much help during a storm that
1:05:05
Speaker 1: stretches for a day or two or four. Deep freeze
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Speaker 1: energy scare underscores why the Energy Department issued emergency orders
1:05:11
Speaker 1: in recent months to stop the political closure of coal
1:05:14
Speaker 1: plants in the Midwest. The grid needs all the coal
1:05:17
Speaker 1: power it can get when temperatures plunge of skyrocket. Environmental
1:05:20
Speaker 1: groups of challenge of departments orders. Is the goal to
1:05:23
Speaker 1: reduce carbon emissions by making Americans freeze? And why is
1:05:26
Speaker 1: there a goal of reducing plant food from our environment?
1:05:29
Speaker 1: H Yeah, reality sets in. It's like the reality of
1:05:34
Speaker 1: lawlessness and the breakdown of the very moral fabric in
1:05:38
Speaker 1: cities when you pull the plug on even enforcing laws. Rebecca,
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Speaker 1: welcome to the Morning Show. Thanks for calling. Happy Monday
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Speaker 1: to you.
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Speaker 14: Oh, happy Monday to you. Brian.
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Speaker 1: It's on your mind, Rebecca.
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Speaker 14: Oh about the you know right to video, which yeah,
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Speaker 14: we do. Yeah, but from just from a photography standpoint
1:05:57
Speaker 14: of it, you know, we are not going to to
1:06:00
Speaker 14: be standing six inches away from our kid when we're
1:06:02
Speaker 14: video and then blowing out the birthday candles. They're not
1:06:04
Speaker 14: going to be standing six inches away from our kid
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Speaker 14: when they're riding their bicycle down the street. For the
1:06:08
Speaker 14: first time we're going to be back, We're going to
1:06:10
Speaker 14: be at a distance so we can get the whole scene.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 14: So these people saying that they're there to just video,
1:06:15
Speaker 14: they're not videoing it when they're six inches away from
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Speaker 14: the ICE agents. Clearly there to disrupt, clearly so using
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Speaker 14: the whole they're there to video stuff when they are
1:06:24
Speaker 14: in the middle of what the action is is is
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Speaker 14: an untruth.
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Speaker 1: Oh no, No, I was not painting with that broad
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Speaker 1: of a brush. I was merely reacting to the comment
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Speaker 1: of my friends.
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Speaker 14: But some people need to hear that.
1:06:34
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, And I'm glad see Rebecca. That's why I
1:06:36
Speaker 1: love my listening audience, because maybe someone out there was
1:06:39
Speaker 1: operating into the delusion that I was. I was suggesting
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Speaker 1: it's okay to be six inches away from an ICE
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Speaker 1: office through a video camera. No, that would be interference,
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Speaker 1: and that's what we're trying to avoid. Yes, Rebecca, you
1:06:51
Speaker 1: are right. Have a wonderful day, and stay warm and
1:06:54
Speaker 1: stay safe and try to stay off the roads along
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Speaker 1: with everybody else. Six eighty fives Stick around FLP President
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Speaker 1: Ken Kober on the give You Rule. Seven six fifty
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Speaker 1: five KRCD talk station trying to make it to have
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Speaker 1: you money and stand the hell off the roads. That's
1:07:09
Speaker 1: what Hammond County Sheriff said, Hamilton County snow level three
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Speaker 1: snow emergency. All roads are closed in on emergency personnel.
1:07:15
Speaker 1: No one should be driving a list it's a personal emergency.
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Speaker 1: On that note, welcome back to the fifty five KRC
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Speaker 1: Morning Show. Not necessarily to talk about the road conditions.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back FOP President Ken Kobe A representing the Cincinni
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Speaker 1: Police Department. Always are great to have you on the program.
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Speaker 12: Ken Heay, Good morning, Brian, Thanks for having me.
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Speaker 1: It's pleasure and of course to talk about the rules
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Speaker 1: of engagement given what happened in Minneapolis over the weekend.
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Speaker 1: But before we get to that, can I talk about
1:07:39
Speaker 1: the roads just real quick here? First off, there is
1:07:42
Speaker 1: a stage three emergency. I understand that. What does it
1:07:44
Speaker 1: mean to my listening audience. Does this mean they're not
1:07:48
Speaker 1: legally allowed to drive unless it's a personal emergency. I mean,
1:07:51
Speaker 1: I guess I'm wondering what the true effect is. I
1:07:54
Speaker 1: know no one should be out on the roads because
1:07:56
Speaker 1: they suck, But beyond that, legally speaking, what does.
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Speaker 12: It Yeah, I think you're gonna it's gonna be hard
1:08:03
Speaker 12: pressed to be able to enforce this now, I will say,
1:08:08
Speaker 12: and that does make sense. I mean I talked to
1:08:10
Speaker 12: cops that are working third shift. They're like this, and
1:08:12
Speaker 12: the roads are impassable. They are so I think the
1:08:15
Speaker 12: whole point of that is, listen, if you absolutely don't
1:08:17
Speaker 12: need to be on the road, don't be on the road.
1:08:19
Speaker 12: You know, hopefully just saying look, this is what could
1:08:22
Speaker 12: happen would be enough, because you know, if the police
1:08:25
Speaker 12: stop somebody driving sideways down we'll say Reddick Road or
1:08:28
Speaker 12: you name it whatever, Central Parkway, and they go, oh, yeah,
1:08:31
Speaker 12: I was just going to see if there was a
1:08:33
Speaker 12: liquor store open, they might have a problem, you think.
1:08:37
Speaker 12: You know, look, I'm trying to get to the hospital,
1:08:38
Speaker 12: or look, I have to be at work because my
1:08:41
Speaker 12: business isn't closed. They're they're going to certainly allow you
1:08:44
Speaker 12: to get there. But if you don't need to be
1:08:46
Speaker 12: on the roads, don't be on the roads because they
1:08:48
Speaker 12: are terrible.
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Speaker 1: Right now, well, I think you already answered my question
1:08:51
Speaker 1: kind of about law enforcement. I was thinking of you
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Speaker 1: and and dealing with, you know, terrible road conditions in
1:08:57
Speaker 1: the past. What does it mean for the law enforcement officers.
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Speaker 1: You guys are driving around a rear wheel drive Sedan's
1:09:02
Speaker 1: for the most part. Do you change vehicles to deal
1:09:05
Speaker 1: with issues? Now, obviously we have to anticipate a much
1:09:07
Speaker 1: slower reaction time, to the extent we call nine to
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Speaker 1: one one.
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Speaker 12: Well, I mean, it can put chains on the tires.
1:09:14
Speaker 12: The problem is those chains only work if there's snow there.
1:09:17
Speaker 12: If once roads are starting to be covered. You know,
1:09:20
Speaker 12: they don't work very well on roads that don't have
1:09:22
Speaker 12: snow on them. So it does make it difficult. And
1:09:25
Speaker 12: that's the whole purpose is. You know, the police need
1:09:27
Speaker 12: to be available for emergencies, not for somebody because they
1:09:30
Speaker 12: slid off the side of the road because our car
1:09:32
Speaker 12: got stuck, because you know, they decided they wanted a
1:09:34
Speaker 12: big make at two o'clock in the morning. So that's
1:09:36
Speaker 12: where they're trying to emphasize that. Look, the roads are
1:09:39
Speaker 12: really bad. Unless you need to be out there for
1:09:43
Speaker 12: something that's that dire, please just stay home.
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Speaker 1: That is sound advice. So heat it. Ken Kober says it,
1:09:50
Speaker 1: Sheriff says it. I'm saying it because I've been on
1:09:53
Speaker 1: the roads this morning. It's just not good out there.
1:09:55
Speaker 1: All right, let's pivot over to Minneapolis. I think this
1:09:58
Speaker 1: is the martyr they have been looking for. And my
1:10:00
Speaker 1: take on it anyway, I didn't really personally judging it
1:10:03
Speaker 1: from the legal standard of reasonable and eminent apprehension of
1:10:08
Speaker 1: grievous bodily harm or death. If you have that and
1:10:10
Speaker 1: that feeling is reasonable, you're allowed to use deadly force
1:10:13
Speaker 1: under most circumstances. I is that the standard that law
1:10:19
Speaker 1: enforcement looks at as well when using deadly force?
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Speaker 3: Well?
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Speaker 12: Sure, I mean you have Graham versus Connor. You know,
1:10:25
Speaker 12: it's a nineteen eighty nine Supreme Court decision of what
1:10:30
Speaker 12: you suff force, how yousuf force can be applied, and
1:10:34
Speaker 12: it's what's reasonable to the officer at the time, not
1:10:39
Speaker 12: to be watching still videos or you still frames slowing
1:10:43
Speaker 12: down videos. Find you can't have twenty twenty hindsight. It
1:10:47
Speaker 12: has to be in that moment. What did that officer
1:10:49
Speaker 12: know at the time? Was it reasonable? That's what is
1:10:53
Speaker 12: applied to cases like this. Now. I will say with this,
1:10:56
Speaker 12: with this one in Minneapolis, whether the officer did the
1:11:00
Speaker 12: right thing or not, I think it's still yet to
1:11:01
Speaker 12: be seen. But you have politicians on both sides of
1:11:05
Speaker 12: the aisles coming out going some of them going as
1:11:07
Speaker 12: a murderer, some of them going listen to, this guy
1:11:09
Speaker 12: just did what he's supposed to do and without having
1:11:12
Speaker 12: all the evidence. That is extremely, extremely inappropriate. But people
1:11:17
Speaker 12: have already made up their minds. Now we have people
1:11:20
Speaker 12: that are making AI videos, AI still images, and that's
1:11:25
Speaker 12: that's the problem. Is what you know, what on the
1:11:28
Speaker 12: internet is actually true and what's not, and it's will
1:11:31
Speaker 12: whatever fits my motive is what I'm gonna do. And
1:11:34
Speaker 12: that's that's the real problem. It's become a very polarizing
1:11:37
Speaker 12: thing here in the United States.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, most notably because most people are not inclined to
1:11:42
Speaker 1: do the heavy research it takes to get to the truth.
1:11:45
Speaker 1: They are duped by the artificial intelligence created image. They
1:11:49
Speaker 1: are duped by whatever side of the political ledg or
1:11:52
Speaker 1: website is trying to, you know, to push people to
1:11:55
Speaker 1: a certain direction. Whether the ice agent was completely appropriate,
1:11:58
Speaker 1: his actions were coletly and lawful, or he was an
1:12:01
Speaker 1: evil murderer who gunned down an innocent individual. If you
1:12:05
Speaker 1: just surround yourself with one narrative and you buy into
1:12:07
Speaker 1: it because of politic if it's your political perspective, then
1:12:10
Speaker 1: I think we're all lost as a society, and it
1:12:12
Speaker 1: transcends what happened in Minneapolis over the weekend. But I'm
1:12:15
Speaker 1: with you completely. We need all the evidence first, But
1:12:18
Speaker 1: judging from the fact that you've got it, I mean,
1:12:20
Speaker 1: I think it's pretty demonstrably true. There were three, four,
1:12:23
Speaker 1: five ice agents. They had this guy tackled to the ground.
1:12:27
Speaker 1: You know what, It doesn't seem likely that will be
1:12:31
Speaker 1: a circumstance that would give rise to this Oh my god,
1:12:33
Speaker 1: my life is in peril. That's the thing I think
1:12:37
Speaker 1: most people are struggling with them trying to reach a conclusion,
1:12:39
Speaker 1: an accurate conclusion on this one.
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Speaker 12: Ken Well, sure, And like I said, you watch these
1:12:43
Speaker 12: videos that blurry, their grainy who knows without knowing what did?
1:12:47
Speaker 12: What did these officers say? You know, you know it's
1:12:51
Speaker 12: off he's in the video. Like I said, I don't think.
1:12:54
Speaker 12: I don't know that you can necessarily draw a conclusion
1:12:55
Speaker 12: of there's one that supposedly they see them taking a
1:12:58
Speaker 12: weapon from this guy. Who knows was this guy then
1:13:02
Speaker 12: reaching for someone else's gun. And like I said, I'm
1:13:04
Speaker 12: not saying this is true. I'm just giving a scenario
1:13:07
Speaker 12: where this could be justified, but maybe it's not. I mean,
1:13:10
Speaker 12: it could be as simple as somebody had a gun out,
1:13:13
Speaker 12: you know, they had an accidental discharge, and then all
1:13:16
Speaker 12: of a sudden, there's sympathetic fire because people are thinking that,
1:13:19
Speaker 12: oh that's good. At this cops life in dangers, they
1:13:21
Speaker 12: start firing rounds. I'm not saying any of this is true,
1:13:23
Speaker 12: but these are scenarios that could either show that they
1:13:27
Speaker 12: were justified, it could show they're not justified. But what
1:13:29
Speaker 12: they need to have and what a public should be
1:13:32
Speaker 12: looking for is let's come out and see what this
1:13:35
Speaker 12: entire investigation shows. Maybe these six officers, I don't know,
1:13:39
Speaker 12: maybe they said listen and it was an act. I
1:13:41
Speaker 12: didn't mean to fire this round, or yeah, I absolutely
1:13:43
Speaker 12: did because he was grabbing the third officer's gun. I
1:13:47
Speaker 12: saw it, and I knew if he got a hold
1:13:49
Speaker 12: of this gun, he could shot some of these officers.
1:13:51
Speaker 7: Who knows.
1:13:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's certainly a valuable or a viable option
1:13:56
Speaker 1: there ken we don't know yet.
1:13:59
Speaker 12: No, And for politicians to be outgoing this guy is
1:14:02
Speaker 12: a murderer, and then you have the other side going
1:14:05
Speaker 12: he's just doing he supposed to do. This is his job,
1:14:08
Speaker 12: he has right to protect himself, you know, until they
1:14:11
Speaker 12: have all of the facts. It's just it's ridiculous that
1:14:16
Speaker 12: it's come to this. But we also have let's think
1:14:18
Speaker 12: about this, and this is how this is how our
1:14:19
Speaker 12: brains work. You know, think of as a child growing
1:14:22
Speaker 12: up and you got a younger or older sibling and
1:14:25
Speaker 12: you guys get in a fight. One is going to
1:14:27
Speaker 12: go run into mom and dad and go, this is
1:14:29
Speaker 12: what happened. This is what happened. And of course mom
1:14:31
Speaker 12: and dad immediately go, that's what had does happened, right,
1:14:34
Speaker 12: because that was the first story I heard. So now
1:14:36
Speaker 12: you have both sides chasing the media to get out
1:14:41
Speaker 12: their narrative first because that's what some people are likely
1:14:44
Speaker 12: going to believe. Yeah, and this is this is the
1:14:47
Speaker 12: problem with what we have going on with society. Instead
1:14:50
Speaker 12: of waiting for facts to come out, we're just going
1:14:54
Speaker 12: to put out what our narrative is that supports supports whatever.
1:14:57
Speaker 12: You know, my agenda is, that's what we want to
1:15:00
Speaker 12: get out. Instead of waiting, let's get all of the
1:15:01
Speaker 12: facts out and then people pass judgment. And that's just
1:15:04
Speaker 12: not what we're seeing.
1:15:06
Speaker 1: Well, in the elephant in the room for me all morning,
1:15:08
Speaker 1: and it has been for a long time. Is really
1:15:10
Speaker 1: getting behind and finding out what the agenda is. What
1:15:15
Speaker 1: do they hope to accomplish by not enforcing immigration laws,
1:15:18
Speaker 1: particularly involving the elimination of the hardest core criminals from
1:15:23
Speaker 1: our country. I mean, I don't understand why anyone wouldn't
1:15:26
Speaker 1: embrace that. I mean, there may be some decent, wonderful
1:15:28
Speaker 1: illegal immigrants here and final they've been living their lives
1:15:30
Speaker 1: for the last ten years. They should be on the
1:15:32
Speaker 1: less that. You can make that argument all day long,
1:15:33
Speaker 1: but I mean, the focus of the Trump initiative has
1:15:36
Speaker 1: been to get really evil, bad people out of neighborhoods,
1:15:39
Speaker 1: and that everyone would show up to impede that operation.
1:15:45
Speaker 1: That element doesn't make sense to me, and that's why
1:15:48
Speaker 1: I'm really looking for this true you know, you know,
1:15:54
Speaker 1: the why behind the motive to come out. You know
1:15:57
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, No.
1:15:59
Speaker 12: Without a doubt. This is what's really has me kind
1:16:02
Speaker 12: of scratching my head is you know, you you're against
1:16:06
Speaker 12: these laws, like you said, these these agendas, instead of
1:16:10
Speaker 12: you know, going into your your US senator, your US
1:16:14
Speaker 12: representatives and going listen, I don't like this law. You
1:16:16
Speaker 12: got need to change this from Capitol Hill. Now instead,
1:16:19
Speaker 12: what are they doing. They're going out and they're you know,
1:16:21
Speaker 12: they're blowing whistles. They're trying to interfere with ice, which
1:16:25
Speaker 12: these folks are here legally doing a job. And I've
1:16:29
Speaker 12: actually studied human performance for Science Institute is a fantastic
1:16:35
Speaker 12: institute that you can actually get certified in being an
1:16:38
Speaker 12: analyst of you know, looking at human performance by you know,
1:16:44
Speaker 12: for lack of better terms, humans and what happens when
1:16:46
Speaker 12: they're under stress. You know, decision making we know goes
1:16:50
Speaker 12: down when they're under stress. So a bunch of people
1:16:54
Speaker 12: yelling and screaming, blowing whistles, you were making these situations worse.
1:16:58
Speaker 12: I'm not saying you don't have the right to protest,
1:17:00
Speaker 12: because you do have the right to protest, But the
1:17:03
Speaker 12: problem is you're making this worse, you know, by putting
1:17:08
Speaker 12: more stress on these agents that are trying to do
1:17:10
Speaker 12: this job just because you simply don't like the law.
1:17:14
Speaker 12: And that is I mean, it's not surprising that these
1:17:18
Speaker 12: things are happening. You know, whether they end up being
1:17:20
Speaker 12: right or they end up being wrong, that'll come out
1:17:22
Speaker 12: in time. But it just doesn't make any sense do
1:17:26
Speaker 12: things the right way. Never in the United States. If
1:17:28
Speaker 12: we're in a time where we go, I don't like
1:17:30
Speaker 12: this law, so I'm going to resist law enforcement, You're
1:17:33
Speaker 12: going to lose. It's just the bottom line, whether it
1:17:36
Speaker 12: ends up losing by going to jail or unfortunately this
1:17:39
Speaker 12: guy losing his life because he ends up getting in
1:17:43
Speaker 12: a situation that's just a tragic one. But people somehow
1:17:46
Speaker 12: have been so involvement. Well, if we don't like the law,
1:17:49
Speaker 12: we're just going to resist law enforcement and seek that
1:17:51
Speaker 12: that's okay, and it's just not.
1:17:53
Speaker 1: And then going back to your earlier point, that creates
1:17:56
Speaker 1: a very tense situation in the mind of the law
1:17:59
Speaker 1: enforcement off when they're surrounded by these angry mobs constantly,
1:18:03
Speaker 1: it's much more likely that's going to result in the
1:18:05
Speaker 1: tragic scenario, which of course happened over the weekend. Ken Coober,
1:18:09
Speaker 1: God bless you man, You and every one of the
1:18:10
Speaker 1: Cincinne police officers and all law enforcement officers. I wish
1:18:13
Speaker 1: you the best out there. Be careful on the roads them,
1:18:16
Speaker 1: give the officers a break, folks. Just stay off the
1:18:18
Speaker 1: roads of the extent possible. And Ken, I don't envy
1:18:24
Speaker 1: one days like today. But then again, I don't envy
1:18:26
Speaker 1: law enforcement generally speaking, but we sure do appreciate you
1:18:28
Speaker 1: and here on the fifty five k Sday Morning Show
1:18:31
Speaker 1: have your back.
1:18:31
Speaker 12: Brother, Well, we appreciate your support. As for your listeners
1:18:35
Speaker 12: as well. Thank you.
1:18:36
Speaker 1: Have a great week, my friends. Stay safe and stay warm.
1:18:38
Speaker 1: Seven to seventeen. Christopher smith Amen, with a Smither event
1:18:41
Speaker 1: up next, Fast and pro Roofing. You may have an
1:18:43
Speaker 1: ice dam Yeah, that pesky twelve fifteen inches of snow
1:18:46
Speaker 1: can cause problems for roofs station on a Monday. That
1:18:49
Speaker 1: means one thing for sure. Christopher Smithman, former Vice Mayor
1:18:52
Speaker 1: of the City of Cincinnati for the Christopher Smitheman Smither Event.
1:18:56
Speaker 1: Welcome back, my friend. It's always great having you on
1:18:59
Speaker 1: the show.
1:19:00
Speaker 13: Oh thanks for having me on, Brian. I tell you
1:19:03
Speaker 13: this weather is something that's very rare for Cincinnati and
1:19:08
Speaker 13: our region, and I've been listening to your show. I'm
1:19:13
Speaker 13: just reiterating what you were saying earlier. People should stay
1:19:16
Speaker 13: off the roads, be very very careful. You know, a
1:19:19
Speaker 13: level three is real. You just heard the FOP president,
1:19:23
Speaker 13: you know, say an officer could stop you. So what
1:19:26
Speaker 13: they're really just basically saying is make way for firefighters,
1:19:29
Speaker 13: police officers, you know the trucks that are that are
1:19:33
Speaker 13: removing the snow. So you're keeping it safe for everybody.
1:19:36
Speaker 13: And the biggest risk on top of what we have
1:19:39
Speaker 13: now is this the cold weather and so there's arctic
1:19:42
Speaker 13: air that's coming in. We all have to respect even
1:19:45
Speaker 13: going out to your car just trying to clear it off. Well,
1:19:48
Speaker 13: you start saying fifteen and seventeen and twenty degrees below
1:19:51
Speaker 13: zero going in tonight, that is very, very significant for
1:19:54
Speaker 13: our region.
1:19:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, make sure you keep your eye on loved ones,
1:19:57
Speaker 1: most notably seniors who might be living alone if the
1:20:00
Speaker 1: power goes out. You know, that's a serious problem right there.
1:20:03
Speaker 1: So we all need to stand at mind our p's
1:20:06
Speaker 1: and cues, and you know, I guess the best way
1:20:08
Speaker 1: to get out of the way of law enforcement and
1:20:09
Speaker 1: emergency vehicles and snowplous is just don't be on the
1:20:12
Speaker 1: roads in the first place. Hey, speaking of roads, did
1:20:15
Speaker 1: you get your street plowed? Christopher? Because if you look
1:20:17
Speaker 1: at the city map, it doesn't look like the west
1:20:19
Speaker 1: end got any love. But I just asked Corey Bowman
1:20:21
Speaker 1: by a way of text, if he's his area got plows.
1:20:24
Speaker 1: Waiting to hear back from moments, just wondering if the
1:20:26
Speaker 1: former vice mayor street got plowed.
1:20:30
Speaker 13: No, we're still worth our side. Streets are are still
1:20:34
Speaker 13: not plowed. And you know, all all I can say
1:20:38
Speaker 13: to the city is, you know, when I served with
1:20:40
Speaker 13: John Cranleigh, one of the things that he did a
1:20:43
Speaker 13: good job in these these emergencies is communicate, communicate and communicate.
1:20:49
Speaker 13: I always I always find it interesting that our mayor
1:20:52
Speaker 13: and members of council kind of just disappear. Yeah, so
1:20:55
Speaker 13: they don't make themselves available, they don't come on your show,
1:20:57
Speaker 13: they don't you don't see them on the news. You know,
1:21:00
Speaker 13: they don't see you don't see them riding in the
1:21:01
Speaker 13: middle of the night with the snow trucks. Really just
1:21:04
Speaker 13: you know, really pumping up those men and women and
1:21:07
Speaker 13: let's thank them for all the work they've been working
1:21:09
Speaker 13: around the clock. Try definitely file with mini streets as
1:21:12
Speaker 13: they can. But the leadership kind of like goes home.
1:21:15
Speaker 13: They're sitting in their warm houses and they're really not
1:21:18
Speaker 13: out there on the front lines with the city workers
1:21:20
Speaker 13: trying to get it done. And I think, you know,
1:21:22
Speaker 13: this is again, I haven't seen the mayor anywhere who
1:21:25
Speaker 13: you can find them with the search warrant. And that's
1:21:28
Speaker 13: the problem with this leadership.
1:21:30
Speaker 1: Well, you know, that's an excellent point, Christopher, because you
1:21:33
Speaker 1: know the road crews are probably working there, you know,
1:21:36
Speaker 1: you know, you know, working hard, and they're doing as
1:21:38
Speaker 1: much as they can with the resources they have. There
1:21:40
Speaker 1: are so many roads they have to clear. It's impossible
1:21:42
Speaker 1: to stay up on it. This is it's a record snowfalls,
1:21:45
Speaker 1: the most snow we've got at one time in twenty years.
1:21:48
Speaker 1: So at minimum America go out and say listen, we're
1:21:51
Speaker 1: on top of it. We'll get to you eventually. But
1:21:53
Speaker 1: you have to understand the volume of snow is not
1:21:55
Speaker 1: something you can just wave a wand and make it disappear.
1:21:58
Speaker 1: So if your road hasn't been addressed yet, it's because
1:22:02
Speaker 1: we're working on the main thoroughfares trying to clear things
1:22:04
Speaker 1: up for the vast majority of folks and will ultimately
1:22:07
Speaker 1: get to it. And I presume that's what's going on.
1:22:09
Speaker 1: But yeah, the silence is deafening, and that is it's
1:22:12
Speaker 1: kind of a modus operandi when it comes to the
1:22:15
Speaker 1: AFT have provol administration.
1:22:18
Speaker 13: Yeah, but then what you do what you see them
1:22:20
Speaker 13: holding press conferences on are resolutions about, you know, essentially
1:22:26
Speaker 13: we don't like ice or we don't want ice in
1:22:28
Speaker 13: our community, you know, over the last two weeks. So
1:22:32
Speaker 13: when they do talk, they seem to be off message,
1:22:35
Speaker 13: are very distracted by what they should be focusing on.
1:22:39
Speaker 13: That's what's frustrating for me. I mean, I'm sure they're
1:22:42
Speaker 13: going to hold a press conference at some point, but
1:22:44
Speaker 13: it won't be about the snow removal, the side streets
1:22:48
Speaker 13: or any of that. It'll be nonsense, and I think
1:22:52
Speaker 13: it pivots me into just my heart goes out always
1:22:55
Speaker 13: when you have loss of life. Brian Thomas, like I said,
1:22:59
Speaker 13: I have quite a few questions about the shooting that
1:23:02
Speaker 13: happened well in Minneapolis, but we'll get I know, we'll
1:23:05
Speaker 13: talk about it. But that's what I'm going to tee
1:23:07
Speaker 13: up as we come back after the break.
1:23:10
Speaker 1: Well done, Christophers, segue to the break. I couldn't have
1:23:13
Speaker 1: done it better, absolutely seven twenty six. Right now more
1:23:15
Speaker 1: with Christopher Smithman and the smith Event. Happy Monday to you.
1:23:18
Speaker 1: Talking to Christopher smith Aman we call the smither Event. Christopher,
1:23:21
Speaker 1: you're getting ready to segue over to the tragedy in
1:23:24
Speaker 1: Minneapolis over the weekend. I just find it really weird.
1:23:28
Speaker 1: The protesters are running rampant in the street. They don't
1:23:31
Speaker 1: want ICE doing their job, or they're looking out for
1:23:33
Speaker 1: whatever that splitting up families, whatever the argument is. You know,
1:23:36
Speaker 1: Obama deported more people than any other president he was.
1:23:40
Speaker 1: He gave Tom Homan, the guy who's still in the
1:23:43
Speaker 1: same role, a Presidential Rank award, I mean for Distinguished
1:23:47
Speaker 1: service awarded in twenty fifteen during the Obama administration, the
1:23:50
Speaker 1: highest honor for federal career executives that is given. He
1:23:54
Speaker 1: was in charge of ICE enforcement and removal, which was
1:23:57
Speaker 1: quite successful under Obama, brought Obama back then called the
1:24:00
Speaker 1: deporter in Chief by immigration groups Christopher. He also uh
1:24:06
Speaker 1: had the same strategy deport criminals. That was basically his
1:24:10
Speaker 1: standard objective. We are going after the hardest of hardcore criminals.
1:24:14
Speaker 1: It's the same policy that Trump is using. Not a
1:24:16
Speaker 1: peep from anybody during the Obama administration. Hmmm, that's interesting.
1:24:22
Speaker 13: And people died, meaning there were situations that ICE agents
1:24:27
Speaker 13: had during his administration. All of those things are absolutely facts.
1:24:33
Speaker 13: You know, I want to just rewind because I do
1:24:36
Speaker 13: think that this is a close call. Uh, but oh yeah,
1:24:40
Speaker 13: it's the totality. It's the totality of the facts to
1:24:43
Speaker 13: the public. It's not the one moment where he was
1:24:48
Speaker 13: disarmed and he was shot. It's the totality of this thing.
1:24:53
Speaker 13: And so when I look at the incident and I go, Okay,
1:24:56
Speaker 13: there's a protest happening. I'm a concealed carry meaning I
1:25:00
Speaker 13: carry a weapon most of the time, right legally. When
1:25:04
Speaker 13: an officer pulls me over, which has happened, my hands
1:25:08
Speaker 13: are either outside that window or they're in the ten
1:25:11
Speaker 13: two position. And when that officer walks up to my car,
1:25:15
Speaker 13: even though on my license plates, I already know he
1:25:17
Speaker 13: knows I could possibly have a weapon. I tell him
1:25:21
Speaker 13: I have a weapon in my vehicle. It's in my
1:25:23
Speaker 13: console or it's in my glove compartment. I'm gonna wait
1:25:26
Speaker 13: for your instructions to tell me what I do next.
1:25:30
Speaker 13: I want that officer relaxed and comfortable as I get
1:25:34
Speaker 13: out my wallet and my registration, and that officer doesn't
1:25:38
Speaker 13: believe I'm reaching for anything. It's about following instructions and
1:25:42
Speaker 13: complying with the law. The problem here is you've got
1:25:46
Speaker 13: a guy who goes to a protest with a gun legally,
1:25:51
Speaker 13: but then he begins to engage the officers whatever that is.
1:25:55
Speaker 13: He's in his mind, there's a woman being pushed. You've
1:25:58
Speaker 13: got a weapon. Maybe this is not your day to
1:26:01
Speaker 13: intervene in this situation. Maybe it's never, but never with
1:26:05
Speaker 13: a weapon, never with a semi automatic weapon. So let's
1:26:10
Speaker 13: acknowledge that this man was making some very poor decisions
1:26:16
Speaker 13: out there as he was engaging federal officers who were
1:26:21
Speaker 13: rightfully there doing what they should be doing as far
1:26:25
Speaker 13: as not they're not breaking the law. And now you
1:26:27
Speaker 13: have somebody engaging with a weapon. And I just want
1:26:31
Speaker 13: to say that everything that happened after that, right, those
1:26:35
Speaker 13: decisions ended up with the unfortunate death of this guy.
1:26:40
Speaker 13: And so my heart goes out to his family. I
1:26:43
Speaker 13: believe as I look at the video and if people
1:26:45
Speaker 13: are going to have more information than Christopher Smitherman will have, right,
1:26:49
Speaker 13: it's a close call. But you're gonna have to get
1:26:52
Speaker 13: in the minds of the officers, meaning did they know
1:26:55
Speaker 13: that he was disarmed? Meaning an officer this is like
1:26:58
Speaker 13: un you know, like when the gun was taken, did
1:27:01
Speaker 13: they did the other officers there at the time though
1:27:04
Speaker 13: that he no longer has a weapon or.
1:27:06
Speaker 1: Even the initial question is is And I'm not sure
1:27:09
Speaker 1: we even have the answer on this one, Christopher. Did
1:27:12
Speaker 1: they even know he was armed in the first place,
1:27:15
Speaker 1: because a lot of people saying, a lot of videos
1:27:17
Speaker 1: suggests the only thing he had in his hand at
1:27:19
Speaker 1: any time was the cell phone, and that no time
1:27:22
Speaker 1: did he ever brandish the firearm or pull it out.
1:27:24
Speaker 1: And then it was only during the sort of the
1:27:27
Speaker 1: ice pile on top of him that the gun was
1:27:29
Speaker 1: even discovered to be on his person. So you know,
1:27:32
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with someone going to a
1:27:34
Speaker 1: protest and being armed. If they're lawfully entitled to carry
1:27:37
Speaker 1: a firearm, how that may be the best place to
1:27:38
Speaker 1: have it, because it's more likely you're going to face
1:27:40
Speaker 1: violence or maybe eminent apprehension of death. So okay, the
1:27:45
Speaker 1: more dangerous the situation you're going in, the more likely
1:27:47
Speaker 1: it is you might want to carry one. Never would
1:27:49
Speaker 1: you pull it out unless you were a face with
1:27:52
Speaker 1: those type of circumstances. But the mere fact of the
1:27:55
Speaker 1: existence of a firearm on his person, I don't think
1:27:57
Speaker 1: is this positive of what happened here? Well, lots of
1:28:00
Speaker 1: questions still floating out on that one.
1:28:03
Speaker 13: I think this again, I think this is a very
1:28:05
Speaker 13: different situation. It's a cross car. I feel very differently
1:28:09
Speaker 13: about this than I did about actually the car situation
1:28:13
Speaker 13: where the citizen was trying to run down the ice officer.
1:28:16
Speaker 13: But at the end of the day, right politically, what
1:28:20
Speaker 13: I see are Democrats who are interested in power. This
1:28:26
Speaker 13: is all contrived, meaning they're out protesting because we're going
1:28:32
Speaker 13: into a mid term election. They want power, and the
1:28:37
Speaker 13: governor there is jetting this up for the entire country.
1:28:40
Speaker 13: Oh yeah, he's tried to influence the other states across
1:28:44
Speaker 13: this gate great country and make everybody mad because he
1:28:47
Speaker 13: wants everybody protesting across the United States of America because
1:28:52
Speaker 13: they are interested in what power mid term elections. They
1:28:57
Speaker 13: are the ones that have the chaos. They're acting as
1:29:01
Speaker 13: if this chaos is coming from the White House, right,
1:29:05
Speaker 13: because you started your show talking about President Barack Obama.
1:29:09
Speaker 13: He actually deported more people than any president. He gave
1:29:14
Speaker 13: Tom Holman this great award in the White House. You're
1:29:18
Speaker 13: highlighting that because you're saying, look, hey, there were when
1:29:22
Speaker 13: when President Barack Obama was doing this, when people died
1:29:25
Speaker 13: when he was doing it. You didn't see the uproar
1:29:28
Speaker 13: that you're seeing now. Now there's some people that will say, well,
1:29:31
Speaker 13: he did it differently, the way he approached it differently.
1:29:36
Speaker 13: There are people out there that will say that. But
1:29:38
Speaker 13: at the end of the day, here's what I'm trying
1:29:40
Speaker 13: to say to you. What we're seeing breaking into hotels,
1:29:46
Speaker 13: you know, getting trying to block ice officers with their vehicles,
1:29:50
Speaker 13: blocking traffic and all of that, getting in front of
1:29:53
Speaker 13: vehicles that are that are moving on highways or on streets.
1:29:57
Speaker 13: You are raising the temperature. Sure every time one of
1:30:01
Speaker 13: these ice officers are out there trying to do their
1:30:03
Speaker 13: job and we're asking them to make these split second decisions.
1:30:07
Speaker 13: The last point I'll make is this is all rooted
1:30:10
Speaker 13: in defund the police, reimagine the police. This is the
1:30:14
Speaker 13: Democratic Party that doesn't use those words anymore. But at
1:30:18
Speaker 13: the end that they knew it, they know it was stupid.
1:30:20
Speaker 13: But at the end of the day, this is the
1:30:22
Speaker 13: result of all of that. They have planted these seeds
1:30:27
Speaker 13: to hate the police. They do not like police officers,
1:30:31
Speaker 13: They do not like law enforcement officers. And this is
1:30:34
Speaker 13: a profession in my lifetime that was very well respected
1:30:38
Speaker 13: over the last hundred years. The reality of it now
1:30:41
Speaker 13: is this Democratic Party, which is a party that I
1:30:43
Speaker 13: don't even know. I don't even know what this party
1:30:46
Speaker 13: is anymore. Are they socialists? Are they communists? What in
1:30:50
Speaker 13: the world is going on with the Democratic Party when
1:30:52
Speaker 13: they are out protesting Bryant Thomas people being removed for rape,
1:30:57
Speaker 13: for murder, for robbery, for or DUIs where they're killing
1:31:02
Speaker 13: their families. I meaning, there are some really bad people
1:31:06
Speaker 13: that are being removed by Ice right now. I don't
1:31:09
Speaker 13: understand what the Democratic Party is protesting here and why
1:31:15
Speaker 13: this is not a unifying moment between Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians
1:31:20
Speaker 13: and independence that we want criminals who are in our
1:31:23
Speaker 13: country illegally out well.
1:31:26
Speaker 1: That used to be the stated objective of the Obama administration. Again,
1:31:30
Speaker 1: times have change. Maybe Evil Orange Man, and you're point
1:31:33
Speaker 1: about the midterm is exactly the reason this is going on.
1:31:36
Speaker 1: ELSA might want to protect all the fraud and the
1:31:38
Speaker 1: money that flows from the fraud that they engage in,
1:31:40
Speaker 1: which is pretty rampant. One more walk station money money
1:31:42
Speaker 1: with Brian James after the top of the air news
1:31:44
Speaker 1: but if you topics go over with him. In the meantime,
1:31:46
Speaker 1: Christopher Smithman on the phone doing the Smitherman Christopher, what
1:31:49
Speaker 1: else is on your mind?
1:31:51
Speaker 8: Sir?
1:31:52
Speaker 13: You know what is so scary is I watch these governors,
1:31:55
Speaker 13: no matter which one of them, and I think about
1:31:59
Speaker 13: the google natorial race in Ohio, and it really underscores
1:32:05
Speaker 13: to me what I know Ohio must do, which is
1:32:09
Speaker 13: elect favek Ramaswami as the next governor for the state
1:32:15
Speaker 13: of Ohio. You know what what I'm watching is the
1:32:19
Speaker 13: importance of that office. What the governor is saying right now.
1:32:26
Speaker 13: Will they support ice, will they support basic law and order?
1:32:31
Speaker 13: Will they support school systems? You know, it has been
1:32:35
Speaker 13: amazing in a tragedy what I've been looking at coming
1:32:38
Speaker 13: out of Virginia obviously, you know, Minnesota, all these other
1:32:43
Speaker 13: places man where these governors are in place and they
1:32:48
Speaker 13: are not cooperating with law enforcement. But they're also ceeding
1:32:53
Speaker 13: a generation of people that feel that they cannot trust
1:32:57
Speaker 13: or do not like police officers. And I think that
1:32:59
Speaker 13: is in incredibly dangerous for the United States of America.
1:33:04
Speaker 13: The importance of the governor's race in Ohio is critical
1:33:08
Speaker 13: and part of this campaign of protesting, like the way
1:33:12
Speaker 13: they burst into a church, you know, and which was
1:33:16
Speaker 13: so dark on ridiculous. People are praying on worshiping and
1:33:19
Speaker 13: you're there protesting in their church or what we see
1:33:23
Speaker 13: last night with them busting into hotels setting things on fire.
1:33:29
Speaker 13: If we do not elect a governor in the state
1:33:32
Speaker 13: of Ohio who will make sure that all of us
1:33:36
Speaker 13: are safe in these important inflection points, will have chaos
1:33:39
Speaker 13: in the state of Ohio. And part of this goal
1:33:43
Speaker 13: is to make those who have conservative values those who
1:33:48
Speaker 13: are independent, to make us feel like we're out of sort,
1:33:54
Speaker 13: to kind of suppress us from voting many mentally, mentally,
1:33:58
Speaker 13: just like we came out of the local election. We
1:34:01
Speaker 13: have to make sure that we meet the craziness that
1:34:06
Speaker 13: we are seeing right now in our country. We have
1:34:09
Speaker 13: to keep the energy, meaning we're not out there protesting
1:34:12
Speaker 13: setting things on fire, but when it comes to the
1:34:15
Speaker 13: election day, we must meet them at the gate. All
1:34:19
Speaker 13: of us must be registering the people around us, our
1:34:21
Speaker 13: eighteen year old who are turning eighteen. For example, my
1:34:24
Speaker 13: daughter turns eighteen years old too. I want to make
1:34:28
Speaker 13: sure she's registered to vote. I'm not going to allow
1:34:31
Speaker 13: her to vote where she goes to college. She's coming
1:34:35
Speaker 13: back home to vote, and she's going to vote our
1:34:38
Speaker 13: values of this family. So we have to make sure
1:34:41
Speaker 13: we're taking charge, Brian Thomas, and we are getting ready
1:34:45
Speaker 13: for what I would say is a critical election in November,
1:34:49
Speaker 13: the midterm election where we are electing the next governor
1:34:52
Speaker 13: for the state of Ohio. And number two, we are
1:34:55
Speaker 13: making sure that we are electing the judges in our
1:34:59
Speaker 13: city and in our counting brother who right now continue
1:35:02
Speaker 13: to let criminals out in the street. So we've got
1:35:05
Speaker 13: to make sure that we are ready. And I'm just
1:35:08
Speaker 13: worried that these kinds of protests are beating conservative people down,
1:35:13
Speaker 13: and I think that's very dangerous.
1:35:15
Speaker 1: You know, and that you're concerned that it's very dangerous
1:35:17
Speaker 1: as a concern of mine as well, because you know,
1:35:20
Speaker 1: I obviously, the mainstream media is what it is, and
1:35:22
Speaker 1: they're going to spin it how they want to spin it.
1:35:24
Speaker 1: You know, we know how they spin it. But more
1:35:26
Speaker 1: and more articles, more and more polls, more and more
1:35:29
Speaker 1: surveys suggest that, you know, the Democrats are going to
1:35:31
Speaker 1: like traditionally take over the midterm elections, which is, you know, historically,
1:35:36
Speaker 1: you know, kind of something you can hang your hat on,
1:35:38
Speaker 1: but doesn't necessarily have to be true. But that this,
1:35:42
Speaker 1: this singular issue would result in people turning their backs
1:35:48
Speaker 1: on Republicans across the board on all issues we've done
1:35:52
Speaker 1: such eight or well Republicans have done such a fantastic
1:35:55
Speaker 1: job like ferreting out fraud, waste and abuse, a completely
1:35:58
Speaker 1: bipartisan issue that should even be something to talk about
1:36:01
Speaker 1: other than to applaud the efforts of the faradoft fraudwats
1:36:04
Speaker 1: and abuse. That's something. The whole idea of guys competing
1:36:07
Speaker 1: against women in sports that seems to be a rock
1:36:09
Speaker 1: solid eighty twenty if not more kind of on the
1:36:12
Speaker 1: Republican side of the Ledger issue. Nobody on the Republican sides,
1:36:15
Speaker 1: you know, suggesting that that's right. Just go issue after issue,
1:36:19
Speaker 1: reducing the regulatory burden, lowering energy prices, these are all
1:36:22
Speaker 1: things that Trump's on the winning side. That one bad action.
1:36:26
Speaker 1: If you just to concede that this was a bad
1:36:29
Speaker 1: that he shouldn't have been killed, this protester, that there
1:36:31
Speaker 1: was no justification for the use of deadly force, does
1:36:35
Speaker 1: that convince people who are otherwise clear headed on all
1:36:38
Speaker 1: of the important issues that matter every single day, that
1:36:42
Speaker 1: that would have an effect and impact them. I just
1:36:44
Speaker 1: don't want to believe I live in that world, Christopher Smithman.
1:36:48
Speaker 13: I mean, just think about the removal of Maduro from Venezuela,
1:36:54
Speaker 13: and we had people protesting that that should not have
1:36:59
Speaker 13: had happened, even as Venezuelan people were saying this was
1:37:05
Speaker 13: excellent for them, as a matter of fact, very broadly
1:37:09
Speaker 13: across the Latino community, whether people who are from Mexico
1:37:13
Speaker 13: or Columbia, or whether they're Cuban, whether they're from the
1:37:18
Speaker 13: Dominican Republic, you saw a unified message from Latin Americans
1:37:25
Speaker 13: and people who are Latin across the world saying this
1:37:29
Speaker 13: was the right decision that the White House made. But
1:37:33
Speaker 13: the Democrats were on the streets protesting that, saying they
1:37:37
Speaker 13: support Madua, who really wasn't the president of Venezuela. That's
1:37:43
Speaker 13: what I'm saying, these major disconnects where you hear people saying,
1:37:46
Speaker 13: why are you out there supporting criminals? I mean, we're
1:37:51
Speaker 13: the person that in the house that I'm removing right
1:37:54
Speaker 13: is a rapist. They're a convicted rapist. Why are you
1:37:58
Speaker 13: in the street saying you are mad blowing whistles as
1:38:02
Speaker 13: Ice is carrying out a convicted rapist. And so I'm
1:38:07
Speaker 13: just saying the Democratic Party again, I'm gonna continue to
1:38:10
Speaker 13: say this. So many Democrats continue to say, listen, the
1:38:14
Speaker 13: Democratic Party didn't leave me right. I didn't leave the
1:38:19
Speaker 13: Democratic Party. The Democratic Party.
1:38:21
Speaker 1: Left me right.
1:38:23
Speaker 13: They can't even recognize the Democratic Party at this point,
1:38:27
Speaker 13: meaning I'm the same way. I'm not a Democrat, but
1:38:31
Speaker 13: I'm looking at going man. There was a time where
1:38:33
Speaker 13: blue dog Democrats you can kind of recognize the party,
1:38:37
Speaker 13: but I can't even recognize the party here because they're
1:38:41
Speaker 13: doing so many crazy things. And I'm just saying the
1:38:44
Speaker 13: election Brian Thomas is so important, and I want your
1:38:48
Speaker 13: listening audience to know, let's get ready to vote. We're
1:38:51
Speaker 13: not people that protests were not about violence, you know,
1:38:54
Speaker 13: we're not about destroying property. But it doesn't mean that
1:38:58
Speaker 13: we don't have to have the same energy when it
1:39:01
Speaker 13: comes to November and match this anarchicicy that we're seeing
1:39:05
Speaker 13: across the United States of America.
1:39:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's Christopher Smithman's words. Look what happened in New
1:39:10
Speaker 1: York City. They elected a blank and communist for mayor.
1:39:14
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't think these lefties haven't made great
1:39:16
Speaker 1: inroads and have have got this strong, very very far
1:39:20
Speaker 1: left base. That's the Democratic Party that's left you basically,
1:39:24
Speaker 1: but they're making substantial inroads across this country and I
1:39:27
Speaker 1: find that to be an awfully frightening thing.
1:39:30
Speaker 13: Christopher Smithman, I do, and Brian Thomas, you know what's
1:39:34
Speaker 13: also interesting, and I very rarely get down into this
1:39:38
Speaker 13: identity politics. But it's just an observation. I don't see
1:39:41
Speaker 13: a lot of black and brown people at these protests. No,
1:39:45
Speaker 13: they seem to be very much white women, white males,
1:39:50
Speaker 13: young white males, middle aged white women. I just went elderly.
1:39:56
Speaker 13: But when I look out and I see the people protesting,
1:39:59
Speaker 13: no matter where they are, I don't see the black
1:40:02
Speaker 13: and brown people that they say that they're there to protect.
1:40:06
Speaker 13: You know why, because Latinos want the same thing, say
1:40:12
Speaker 13: communities they don't want to be living next to a
1:40:15
Speaker 13: gang member are racist. So it's amazing that they're out
1:40:20
Speaker 13: there saying keep them in the community, and the brown
1:40:22
Speaker 13: and black people are saying, I want them out.
1:40:25
Speaker 1: Various stude observation, as is always the case, every Monday
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1:40:29
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1:40:43
Speaker 1: the award winning record of Tom Homan, who the left hates,
1:40:48
Speaker 1: now who the left love, while he was in the
1:40:50
Speaker 1: same capacity throwing people out of our country. During the
1:40:54
Speaker 1: Obama administration, twenty thirteen, three hundred and twenty five thousand
1:40:58
Speaker 1: criminal aliens were convicted of agnated fellty, a felony or
1:41:03
Speaker 1: multiple felonies. Twenty fourteen, three hundred and sixteen thousand individuals
1:41:07
Speaker 1: from the US deported, and all of them, you know, criminals.
1:41:11
Speaker 1: This was the focus of the Obama administration. He removed
1:41:14
Speaker 1: more illegal immigrants from this country than any other president under.
1:41:17
Speaker 1: Oh look Tom Homan, who he gave an award to
1:41:21
Speaker 1: for doing his job. What happened? Do you remember the
1:41:26
Speaker 1: protest from back in twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen during the
1:41:28
Speaker 1: Obama administration. Oh my god, there's evil Ice agents. Now
1:41:32
Speaker 1: Barack Obama was doing a victory lap talking about how
1:41:34
Speaker 1: many people who threw out of our country. That was
1:41:36
Speaker 1: what the Democrats did back then. Clinton too. The only
1:41:42
Speaker 1: thing has changed with Republican and Democrat presidents prior to
1:41:47
Speaker 1: current our current occupant of the White House. It's the
1:41:51
Speaker 1: current occupant of the White House happens to be Evil
1:41:53
Speaker 1: Orange Man. Ergo, if Evil Orange Man wants it, then
1:41:55
Speaker 1: we got to go after it and raise three forms
1:41:57
Speaker 1: of holy hell and put our lives in jeopardy by
1:41:59
Speaker 1: interfer with ICE agents who are doing exactly what they
1:42:01
Speaker 1: were doing during the Obama administration, which everyone seemed to
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Speaker 1: At six to fifty five KRC, the talk station, stay home,
1:42:53
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1:42:56
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1:42:58
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Speaker 1: off if at all possible. Someone who's on the phone,
1:43:03
Speaker 1: and I guess the markets are open even though we
1:43:05
Speaker 1: got Snowmageddon going on. Welcome back from all Worth Financial
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Speaker 1: Brian James for another edition of Money Monday. It's always
1:43:10
Speaker 1: great having you on my program, Brian.
1:43:12
Speaker 9: Welcome, It's always great being here. Appreciate it. Yeah, the
1:43:14
Speaker 9: market's open. Doesn't usually close for snow.
1:43:17
Speaker 1: Has it ever closed for weather?
1:43:19
Speaker 9: Not that I can recall. Maybe I'm trying to think
1:43:22
Speaker 9: of a hurricane Sandy shut it down. I can't remember
1:43:26
Speaker 9: nine to eleven, that was a big thing. I do
1:43:27
Speaker 9: remember kind of wondering that week what was going on,
1:43:29
Speaker 9: But I don't I don't recall any weather closures in
1:43:31
Speaker 9: my twenty nine years doing this.
1:43:32
Speaker 1: Fair enough and off to the race's guard. What it
1:43:35
Speaker 1: really impacts? I mean, I'm looking at the market this morning,
1:43:38
Speaker 1: So the whole shooting in Minneapolis apparently no impact on
1:43:43
Speaker 1: Wall Street. Futures are about flat and just a little
1:43:47
Speaker 1: tiny down for the S and P five hundred like
1:43:49
Speaker 1: point zero seven, he says. I'm staring at it now
1:43:52
Speaker 1: right now, dal up point zero one, so zero impact.
1:43:56
Speaker 1: What does it take to really impact the market these days?
1:43:58
Speaker 1: I mean, the whole idea of Trump takes over Greenland
1:44:00
Speaker 1: didn't seem to really do anything. He announced one hundred
1:44:03
Speaker 1: percent tariffs on Canada the other day. I mean that
1:44:06
Speaker 1: hasn't registered apparently, and Davos and his energy policy and
1:44:10
Speaker 1: his standing in defiance to the world leaders, that apparently
1:44:13
Speaker 1: had no ripple effect. Like some I'm wondering what it
1:44:17
Speaker 1: takes to actually impact to market.
1:44:19
Speaker 9: Brian Generally, I would I would point out the tariffs
1:44:22
Speaker 9: because no, the Canadian tariff threat over, because that's not
1:44:26
Speaker 9: real yet. Right over the weekend, that didn't have an impact. However,
1:44:28
Speaker 9: a week and a half ago or so, we did
1:44:30
Speaker 9: have a tariff threat and that did take the markets
1:44:33
Speaker 9: down for a day, right we put it right back,
1:44:36
Speaker 9: and then you go back to April when this round
1:44:39
Speaker 9: of tariffing really really kicked in and the market went
1:44:41
Speaker 9: down almost twenty percent. So the tariffs do so I
1:44:44
Speaker 9: would say it is a it's when the news results
1:44:47
Speaker 9: in a calculable impact to profits. There's an awful lot
1:44:50
Speaker 9: going on out there that I hate to boil it
1:44:53
Speaker 9: down to just are we making money or not. There's
1:44:55
Speaker 9: so much going on out there and we're just not
1:44:56
Speaker 9: in a great spot on a lot of levels. At
1:44:58
Speaker 9: the moment. But to to answer the question specifically, if
1:45:01
Speaker 9: you can't calculate the impact on dollars flowing in and out,
1:45:05
Speaker 9: then it's probably not going to have an immediate impact
1:45:07
Speaker 9: on the markets overall.
1:45:08
Speaker 1: All Right, Well, currently penning before the Supreme Court, and
1:45:11
Speaker 1: it doesn't look like we're going to get a respond
1:45:12
Speaker 1: or an answer very quickly. It's given that they're I
1:45:15
Speaker 1: guess they're on a four week recess or something thereabouts.
1:45:18
Speaker 1: Right now, the Supreme Court's going to rule on Trump's
1:45:21
Speaker 1: terriff actions, and most observers of things Supreme Court are
1:45:25
Speaker 1: suggesting that they may very well override his unilateral actions
1:45:30
Speaker 1: on tariffs. I guess it would be complicated unwinding what's
1:45:34
Speaker 1: been done so far, because say what you want about tariffs,
1:45:38
Speaker 1: he was able to negotiate some pretty decent agreements with
1:45:40
Speaker 1: some foreign nations because of the tariffs. Will all of
1:45:44
Speaker 1: that be undone? Will the promised investments from so many
1:45:48
Speaker 1: countries and the trillions of dollars that apparently have been committed,
1:45:52
Speaker 1: will that be Will the plug be pulled on that?
1:45:54
Speaker 1: And that seems to me that would have a profound
1:45:57
Speaker 1: impact on the market.
1:45:58
Speaker 9: Well, yeah, because again to my earlier point that would
1:46:01
Speaker 9: involve I mean, if we're gonna unwind these tariffs, well,
1:46:03
Speaker 9: guess what the people who paid them have to have
1:46:06
Speaker 9: to go back now now, I'm what I'm really curious
1:46:08
Speaker 9: about is how are we going to unwind this without
1:46:10
Speaker 9: If we have to do this right, we're not nowhere
1:46:12
Speaker 9: neble to do with the way you kick this off.
1:46:15
Speaker 9: The Supreme Court punted. It's probably gonna be February before
1:46:17
Speaker 9: they talk about it again. So it's not sew any
1:46:20
Speaker 9: panic right now. But at the end of the day,
1:46:22
Speaker 9: if it does need to be unwound, well then I
1:46:25
Speaker 9: supposedly we would be writing checks back to the countries
1:46:27
Speaker 9: that paid these tariffs, and I cannot imagine there's not
1:46:30
Speaker 9: going to be a big hue and cry from consumers
1:46:32
Speaker 9: here in the United States saying, hey, prices went up
1:46:34
Speaker 9: immediately after these tariffs went in place on a lot
1:46:37
Speaker 9: of different things, so these countries didn't pay it, We're
1:46:39
Speaker 9: going to be writing them checks for absolutely no reason,
1:46:41
Speaker 9: which would literally be the opposite of the intent of
1:46:44
Speaker 9: the tariffs.
1:46:45
Speaker 1: Well, I guess you know that raises another question which
1:46:47
Speaker 1: I haven't really been quite able to figure out. Brian James,
1:46:50
Speaker 1: maybe you can answer it. Where did all this tariff
1:46:53
Speaker 1: money go? It clearly had not gone to pay down
1:46:55
Speaker 1: the national debt, which is still rising as we speak.
1:46:59
Speaker 9: I can't remember the last administration that really cared about
1:47:02
Speaker 9: the national debt and barely even mentioned it, you know,
1:47:05
Speaker 9: in the campaign periods too. So it goes into the
1:47:08
Speaker 9: general fund. That this is something I've looked up before
1:47:11
Speaker 9: the decision, is that it goes into the general Fund,
1:47:13
Speaker 9: which is sort of means that it kind of supports
1:47:15
Speaker 9: everything we do, but it also sort of means that
1:47:17
Speaker 9: it's not assigned to anything. To your point, and we've
1:47:20
Speaker 9: done an awful lot of things to spend money that
1:47:22
Speaker 9: really has nothing to do with, you know, with propping
1:47:25
Speaker 9: up the American economy or paying down the debt or
1:47:28
Speaker 9: anything like that. There's a lot of money being spent
1:47:30
Speaker 9: on things that really aren't related to the intent of
1:47:35
Speaker 9: the tariff the way it was kind of laid out.
1:47:37
Speaker 9: So the Supreme Court is debating whether the president has
1:47:41
Speaker 9: the power to do this in the first place. There
1:47:42
Speaker 9: are decisions in the past. There's one from eighteen ninety
1:47:45
Speaker 9: two that holds that Congress, not the president alone, is
1:47:48
Speaker 9: the only one that could delegate tariff authority. So that's
1:47:50
Speaker 9: what the Supreme Court is looking at. Presidents could administer
1:47:54
Speaker 9: tariffs under laws like the McKinley Tariff, and that was
1:47:56
Speaker 9: there's also a Smoot Holly Area, right, this is I
1:48:00
Speaker 9: have to remind everybody that they did see Ferris Bueller's
1:48:02
Speaker 9: Day Off once and that's all we know about the
1:48:04
Speaker 9: Smooth Holly Area era. But in those tariffs did worse
1:48:08
Speaker 9: than the Great Depression, and so rules were put in
1:48:10
Speaker 9: place that says that would say that you can't do
1:48:13
Speaker 9: this this easily. Well, that's exactly what we've done over
1:48:15
Speaker 9: the past twelve months. That's what the Supreme Court is debating.
1:48:18
Speaker 9: I have a feeling the history, the history and the
1:48:22
Speaker 9: precedents are fairly clear to the Supreme Court, who relies
1:48:24
Speaker 9: a lot on two hundred fifty years worth of presidence.
1:48:26
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, but they're probably worried about the impact of
1:48:29
Speaker 9: undoing it if they're going to try to follow those presidents.
1:48:31
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, that's I think that's at the heart of
1:48:34
Speaker 1: the heart of the matter. And can you address, if
1:48:39
Speaker 1: possible on the fly what's the story? And thank you
1:48:42
Speaker 1: Maureen for reminding me of this is a great time
1:48:44
Speaker 1: to ask money. Monday's Brian James. What's the story with
1:48:46
Speaker 1: gold and silver? I mean we're looking at north of
1:48:48
Speaker 1: five thousand dollars gold and north of basic one hundred
1:48:53
Speaker 1: and ten dollars an ounce silver. We haven't seen prices
1:48:55
Speaker 1: like this ever.
1:48:56
Speaker 9: That's true, well, those types of assets, those speculative types
1:49:00
Speaker 9: of commodities, right, because a commodity is just something that
1:49:04
Speaker 9: is worth what the crowd says it is. That doesn't
1:49:06
Speaker 9: mean it's a good or bad investment. But there's nothing
1:49:08
Speaker 9: else driving it. It's just the crowd, the auction crowd,
1:49:11
Speaker 9: wanting to buy more and wanting to sell one. That's
1:49:13
Speaker 9: the only thing drives these prices. But you can't you
1:49:15
Speaker 9: can't look at gold and say, well, there's there's industrial
1:49:18
Speaker 9: demand for it all of a sudden, they're putting it
1:49:20
Speaker 9: in cell phones or anything like that, or silver or
1:49:21
Speaker 9: anything like that. It's just the flight of money to
1:49:24
Speaker 9: save spaces, and whenever there is there is concern about
1:49:29
Speaker 9: all these types of things, that's where you'll see it happen.
1:49:31
Speaker 9: And so yes, gold has just surged past five thousand bucks,
1:49:34
Speaker 9: got to about fifty one hundred dollars, and that's been
1:49:36
Speaker 9: going on for a while now. Silver is above one
1:49:39
Speaker 9: hundred dollars an ounce. That's also a record. And the
1:49:42
Speaker 9: thing is, though, there is a limited amount of people
1:49:44
Speaker 9: who are willing to adjust their portfolios to this extreme,
1:49:48
Speaker 9: and there's a limited amount of time that they're going
1:49:50
Speaker 9: to be willing to do it. So it's like a
1:49:52
Speaker 9: flock of birds. You can't look at earnings reports. You
1:49:54
Speaker 9: can't look at you know, gold's you know, forecast of
1:49:58
Speaker 9: what they think is coming, you know next quarter, there
1:50:00
Speaker 9: is none. It's worth nothing more than what people say
1:50:02
Speaker 9: it is. And the herd is going to stampede the
1:50:04
Speaker 9: other direction at some point. So you know, there's nothing
1:50:06
Speaker 9: wrong with owning these types of things, but be reasonable
1:50:09
Speaker 9: about it. Don't throw everything at it just because the
1:50:11
Speaker 9: headlines are scary. There is ample evidence over the past
1:50:15
Speaker 9: several decades of the time that is not a good
1:50:18
Speaker 9: idea to buy gold, and that's when it makes a
1:50:19
Speaker 9: new high.
1:50:20
Speaker 1: Well, and apparently you anticipated my next question. I was
1:50:23
Speaker 1: going to ask you, are there any historic parallels with
1:50:26
Speaker 1: the current spike we're seeing. I realize we've never seen
1:50:29
Speaker 1: five thousand dollars plus goal, but have we ever seen
1:50:32
Speaker 1: a jump and a spike like this over a period
1:50:35
Speaker 1: of time, only to fall back to what you and
1:50:37
Speaker 1: I might consider normal or you know, back to normal.
1:50:41
Speaker 9: Yeah, so there. Gold is usually consistently known as a
1:50:45
Speaker 9: store of value whenever there's confidence in governments, you know, currencies,
1:50:48
Speaker 9: those kinds of things, and it tends to perform best
1:50:50
Speaker 9: when we've got high inflation, geopolitical conflict, financial system stress,
1:50:55
Speaker 9: you know, loss of trust, and monetary fiscal policy, those
1:50:57
Speaker 9: kinds of things. Well, guess what, that's what we have, right, yeah,
1:51:01
Speaker 9: precisely what's going on. So some histories of this. So
1:51:04
Speaker 9: in nineteen seventies we had inflation and policy chaos. This
1:51:08
Speaker 9: was remember that the US abandoned the gold standard in
1:51:11
Speaker 9: nineteen seventy one, So talk about question that drove inflation
1:51:14
Speaker 9: and gold went from thirty five bucks an ounce to
1:51:17
Speaker 9: over eight hundred by nineteen eighty and in the eighties
1:51:20
Speaker 9: of the nineties it was weak. We had falling inflation.
1:51:22
Speaker 9: This was the birth of the stock market as we
1:51:24
Speaker 9: know it today. Right, this was the first couple decades
1:51:27
Speaker 9: where really nothing bad happened. Nineteen eighty seven no longer
1:51:29
Speaker 9: counts Black Monday or whatever we called it. Then that's
1:51:32
Speaker 9: just you can't even find that in a chart anymore.
1:51:34
Speaker 9: But that was a period where gold really got weak
1:51:36
Speaker 9: because investors looked toward other things. So if you believe
1:51:39
Speaker 9: in what this administration is doing, if you believe in
1:51:42
Speaker 9: these business deals that are being put in place, and
1:51:44
Speaker 9: in the notion that a good business supporting administration is
1:51:49
Speaker 9: good for the stock market, then don't fall asleep on
1:51:52
Speaker 9: those types of investments just because in the shorter term
1:51:55
Speaker 9: gold is getting a lot of attention.
1:51:57
Speaker 1: We will continue with Brian James on this money find
1:52:00
Speaker 1: out about interest rates. The Fed gonna pause the lowering
1:52:03
Speaker 1: of interest rates, They're gonna raise them, They're gonna remain static.
1:52:07
Speaker 1: Is Donald Trump gonna get his way? More with Brian
1:52:09
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Speaker 1: fee based upon your account and its value. That encouraged
1:52:30
Speaker 1: them to increase the value of that which is a
1:52:31
Speaker 1: fiduciary obligation if financial planner should have to you, right,
1:52:35
Speaker 1: Brian James.
1:52:36
Speaker 9: Yeah, pretty much. I think that's a pretty close assessment
1:52:40
Speaker 9: of what it is. Really, what it means is I
1:52:41
Speaker 9: got to understand what you need and so I can
1:52:44
Speaker 9: justify what I do with your portfolio.
1:52:46
Speaker 1: Well, it's worked out well for the Thomas family over
1:52:48
Speaker 1: the years, So I strongly encourage someone to do the
1:52:50
Speaker 1: exact same thing because I don't want to have to
1:52:52
Speaker 1: pay attention to it and interest rate we do. Yeah,
1:52:55
Speaker 1: I know it's your job. I mean I don't have
1:52:57
Speaker 1: to deal with it interest rates obviously. You know, Donald
1:53:00
Speaker 1: Trump in a war with the Fed. He wants the
1:53:02
Speaker 1: interest rates low. This reminds me of the Carter administration
1:53:05
Speaker 1: when we had stagflation and he bickered back and forth
1:53:08
Speaker 1: with the pet Fed chairman. He was on his knees.
1:53:11
Speaker 1: Carter was begging him to lower the interest rates, which
1:53:13
Speaker 1: were in the double digits back then, to no effect
1:53:17
Speaker 1: because of the you know, the inflation realities and the
1:53:20
Speaker 1: employment reality. Stagflation, I guess required high interest rates to
1:53:24
Speaker 1: keep things in check. But fast forward to now, Donald
1:53:27
Speaker 1: Trump's looking at thirty three point five to three point
1:53:29
Speaker 1: seventy five interest rate currently, But once I'm even lower,
1:53:33
Speaker 1: what's the FED going to actually do. They don't have
1:53:35
Speaker 1: any obligation to listen to any president what he or
1:53:37
Speaker 1: she desires, right they.
1:53:39
Speaker 9: Don't, except for you know, part of me feels like
1:53:41
Speaker 9: Brian that there's this sort of weird lame duck period
1:53:44
Speaker 9: we've got with this FED chair because he may hang
1:53:47
Speaker 9: around for the rest of his term. He may not,
1:53:49
Speaker 9: depending on whatever the Trump administration can accomplish. They would
1:53:53
Speaker 9: very much like him gone, even though Trump is the
1:53:55
Speaker 9: one who kept him in during that whole transition. So
1:54:00
Speaker 9: I feel like there's gonna be there's not a whole
1:54:02
Speaker 9: lot of news coming out of this one that the
1:54:04
Speaker 9: general consensus is that there's nothing coming out of this
1:54:06
Speaker 9: upcoming meeting, simply because there's there's more descent among the
1:54:11
Speaker 9: Fed Committee than anything else right now. There's there was
1:54:15
Speaker 9: in the last meeting there were two members who wanted
1:54:17
Speaker 9: no change, one was looking for a half percent reduction,
1:54:21
Speaker 9: but anyway, a lot of the sense against another quarter
1:54:24
Speaker 9: point cut. So I think the markets are going to
1:54:25
Speaker 9: be paying much more attention to whether Chair Powell is
1:54:28
Speaker 9: able to unite the committee as opposed to actual ray changes.
1:54:32
Speaker 9: There's not really much change anticipated.
1:54:34
Speaker 4: For this one.
1:54:35
Speaker 1: Well, doesn't that just sort of stay out loud that
1:54:38
Speaker 1: this whole thing is alchemy. If you got all these brilliant,
1:54:42
Speaker 1: you know, fed chairs sitting in different parts of the
1:54:44
Speaker 1: country and all coming up with different conclusions on whether
1:54:47
Speaker 1: we think keep things status qull raise them or lower them.
1:54:49
Speaker 1: They're all looking at the same data. How do you
1:54:51
Speaker 1: come up with a different conclusion on that unless there's
1:54:53
Speaker 1: different you know, sort of economic methodologies to look at it.
1:54:57
Speaker 1: Do we have a bunch of Keensians out there mixed
1:54:59
Speaker 1: with a bunch vo I don't know, Chicago Malthusians, Australian
1:55:06
Speaker 1: economy schools or you know, Chicago School of Economics, Milton
1:55:09
Speaker 1: Friedman stuff. I mean, what what is the reality of that?
1:55:12
Speaker 9: We just lost a third of our listeners, I think.
1:55:14
Speaker 9: But I'm sorry now now, of course, there are there
1:55:18
Speaker 9: are different ways of thinking about this, and that's why
1:55:20
Speaker 9: we have a chair. That's why, you know, that's why
1:55:23
Speaker 9: there isn't a you know, a group think type decision.
1:55:25
Speaker 9: It's the chair who makes the ultimate decision, you know,
1:55:27
Speaker 9: And so that's the person who is sitting in that seat,
1:55:30
Speaker 9: and that's the person Trump doesn't agree with. His His
1:55:33
Speaker 9: background is a little bit different. Trump is a no
1:55:36
Speaker 9: holds barred, all profits at all cost type of a leader,
1:55:39
Speaker 9: and that's every decision that he makes. So he wants
1:55:41
Speaker 9: the rates down yesterday. He wanted them down during the campaign,
1:55:45
Speaker 9: you know, two years ago. So you know, I think
1:55:47
Speaker 9: that part is pretty clear, and that's that's why there
1:55:50
Speaker 9: is the battle against between the White House and the
1:55:53
Speaker 9: Fed Chair simply because he's not acting the way that
1:55:57
Speaker 9: we feel would the way the administration feels would be
1:55:59
Speaker 9: the most friendly toward business and the quickest manner possible.
1:56:02
Speaker 9: You mentioned you mentioned the Carter administration, and this is
1:56:06
Speaker 9: a little bit similar to the Nixon administration too. Part
1:56:09
Speaker 9: of the reason that we had stagflation was Nixon badgering
1:56:13
Speaker 9: the FED Chair at the time to lower interest rates
1:56:15
Speaker 9: because there was an election coming up and he wanted
1:56:17
Speaker 9: to goose the economy, and so that happened. By the
1:56:20
Speaker 9: time the impacts of that were felt, that was the
1:56:22
Speaker 9: roots of stagflation. Then Nixon was out of office and
1:56:27
Speaker 9: we had a period of that long period where we
1:56:30
Speaker 9: had inflation but no economic growth, no really identifiable economic
1:56:34
Speaker 9: grow because it usually at least comes along with accelerated activity,
1:56:38
Speaker 9: which trickles through the economy. Prices are getting higher, but
1:56:40
Speaker 9: people are making more money, and no it's not keeping up,
1:56:42
Speaker 9: but there's still there's still growth there. That is not
1:56:45
Speaker 9: what happened in the seventies. We got the inflation with
1:56:47
Speaker 9: none of the good stuff out of it either.
1:56:49
Speaker 1: Good point, well, and you met another good point you
1:56:51
Speaker 1: made there in brief in passioning about the interest rates.
1:56:54
Speaker 1: It lowers businesses borrowing costs because they too borrow money.
1:56:59
Speaker 1: Now that's something that isn't I would argue, at least
1:57:03
Speaker 1: across the board generally speaking, a problem with supplying demand.
1:57:07
Speaker 1: Most of my audience, I imagine, once the interest rate's
1:57:09
Speaker 1: lower because they've got young people that would like to
1:57:11
Speaker 1: buy a house, or they would like to buy a
1:57:12
Speaker 1: house themselves, or they bought one with a higher interestrate
1:57:14
Speaker 1: and want to refinance down to something else. You can
1:57:17
Speaker 1: refinance what you got. But this is not A lower
1:57:20
Speaker 1: interest rate is not going to change the housing problem,
1:57:23
Speaker 1: is it. It's just going to make It seems to
1:57:24
Speaker 1: me it'll only increase demand on a housing supply that
1:57:28
Speaker 1: is limited already.
1:57:29
Speaker 9: Exactly, there's a lot of people out there who could
1:57:31
Speaker 9: These are conversations I have in my office. Yeah, who
1:57:33
Speaker 9: want to buy, need to buy, but are just you know,
1:57:36
Speaker 9: but they can hold off. So they're waiting for lower
1:57:38
Speaker 9: interest rates on those mortgages. And so, yeah, there is
1:57:40
Speaker 9: a there's pent up demand out there that's going to
1:57:43
Speaker 9: prop up a housing priceis and that will go directly
1:57:45
Speaker 9: in the face of some of the things that the
1:57:47
Speaker 9: President has thrown out there that he would like to fix. Remember,
1:57:49
Speaker 9: we wasn't that long ago we talked about fifty year
1:57:51
Speaker 9: mortgages and maybe bonuses for first time home buyers, those
1:57:54
Speaker 9: kinds of things. None of that reacts to the idea
1:57:57
Speaker 9: that houses are way more expensive now for people at
1:58:00
Speaker 9: that stage of life than they were over the past decade.
1:58:03
Speaker 9: And then maybe there's not much you can do about that.
1:58:05
Speaker 9: But all that's gonna do is goose demand and push
1:58:07
Speaker 9: prices up.
1:58:08
Speaker 1: Yes, now, sort of a boiled down question. I don't
1:58:11
Speaker 1: know whether you can answer it real quickly or not,
1:58:13
Speaker 1: but got to ask it as a financial planner when
1:58:16
Speaker 1: you're having these conversations with individuals, is it still a
1:58:19
Speaker 1: good idea to buy house?
1:58:22
Speaker 9: I think once you know, for darn certain that you're
1:58:25
Speaker 9: where you're gonna be, you're ready to put roots down,
1:58:27
Speaker 9: you know your your your jobs are secure, you know
1:58:29
Speaker 9: those kinds of things. Then I think it makes sense
1:58:31
Speaker 9: because if you're gonna, if you're gonna subscribe to the
1:58:34
Speaker 9: idea that all they need to do is rent and
1:58:35
Speaker 9: so it'll be somebody else's problem and it's too expensive anyway, Well,
1:58:38
Speaker 9: now you are completely beholden to whatever the rental landscape is, uh,
1:58:43
Speaker 9: and you'd you'll be paying as much or more over
1:58:46
Speaker 9: the decades with those annual increases than you would if
1:58:49
Speaker 9: you had to deal with mowing your lawn and fixing
1:58:51
Speaker 9: your own home, you know, hot water, heater and all
1:58:53
Speaker 9: that shovel the driveway show them, Yeah, exactly, you know.
1:58:56
Speaker 9: Then I got another one, another round of that coming
1:58:58
Speaker 9: up today. So if over the longer term, if you
1:59:00
Speaker 9: feel like, yes, I know where I want to be,
1:59:02
Speaker 9: this is the neighborhood, this is the you know, these
1:59:04
Speaker 9: are where our jobs are, then I think buying a
1:59:06
Speaker 9: home is a good idea. Buying a home for the
1:59:08
Speaker 9: decades old notion that it's the best investment you'll ever know, No,
1:59:11
Speaker 9: it's the worst investment you'll ever own. But you gotta
1:59:13
Speaker 9: have one.
1:59:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta have a place to live. And it's
1:59:16
Speaker 1: nice at the end of the day, whenever that day
1:59:18
Speaker 1: is at least you got some equity to show for it.
1:59:20
Speaker 1: You may have been break even all along. You bought
1:59:23
Speaker 1: the house, you put all kinds of money and effort
1:59:25
Speaker 1: into it, you sell it. Maybe it's a wash, but
1:59:28
Speaker 1: at least a wash is better than just a hole
1:59:30
Speaker 1: you dug with yourself for rent over those years.
1:59:32
Speaker 9: Couldn't agree more? Don't You don't necessarily that starter home
1:59:35
Speaker 9: concept I think has changed a little bit. It's all
1:59:37
Speaker 9: right if you're going to get into your late twenties
1:59:39
Speaker 9: even early thirties before you figure out exactly the spot,
1:59:42
Speaker 9: that is not a bad thing.
1:59:43
Speaker 1: All right. One more with Brian James. Got a question
1:59:45
Speaker 1: for him, what is this deal with the ten percent
1:59:48
Speaker 1: cap on credit cards? And also speaking of housing, Trump
1:59:51
Speaker 1: endeavoring to prevent commercial acquisition of housing, private housing for
1:59:55
Speaker 1: the purpose of rentals, and that seems to only sort
1:59:58
Speaker 1: of exacerbate what we were just talking about. But that's
2:00:00
Speaker 1: what we have Brian James for One more with Brian James,
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Speaker 1: Stick around Freedom Ay twenty nine fifty five KRCD talk
2:00:07
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2:00:11
Speaker 1: Brian James, this one's got me a little bit torn.
2:00:14
Speaker 13: I am.
2:00:16
Speaker 1: I regularly describe myself as a little l libertary, in
2:00:19
Speaker 1: other words, not a capital little party libertarian. Just I
2:00:21
Speaker 1: believe in free markets. I don't believe in government intervention
2:00:23
Speaker 1: with markets or the way we run our businesses. I
2:00:26
Speaker 1: think businesses can decide on their own. So it struck
2:00:29
Speaker 1: me as rather odd because I always kind of thought
2:00:31
Speaker 1: Trump might have been that kind of guy, but then
2:00:33
Speaker 1: he would come out and embrace something that sounds like
2:00:36
Speaker 1: it was a Democrat platform position, which is capping the
2:00:40
Speaker 1: credit card company's interest rate charge. Now, I think we
2:00:44
Speaker 1: can all agree thirty percent sounds userous, that's outrageous. But
2:00:49
Speaker 1: is there a reason that the interest rate might be
2:00:52
Speaker 1: twenty or thirty percent? And I think the answer is
2:00:55
Speaker 1: probably yeah, because the credit card companies have to eat
2:00:58
Speaker 1: fraud wasted abuse. I mean, our individual liability is capped
2:01:02
Speaker 1: at fifty bucks. If someone steals our card, uses our
2:01:05
Speaker 1: number or whatever, we let the credit card company know.
2:01:08
Speaker 1: They go and try to unring that bell, but we
2:01:10
Speaker 1: don't have to pay more out of pocket. Than fifty bucks.
2:01:12
Speaker 1: Somebody's got to eat it. That's the credit card company, right,
2:01:14
Speaker 1: is that one of the reasons.
2:01:16
Speaker 9: Yeah, And I would say that fifty bucks is rarely
2:01:18
Speaker 9: even applied to most of the time, they just eat it. Yeah,
2:01:21
Speaker 9: so yeah, there's a reason for that. I mean, I
2:01:24
Speaker 9: don't know. I think a little differently about this. I
2:01:27
Speaker 9: feel like over the decades, the pendulum swings back and
2:01:29
Speaker 9: forth because if businesses are allowed to operate unbridled and
2:01:33
Speaker 9: completely unregulated, well they're going to look under absolutely every
2:01:35
Speaker 9: stone for profit and they will get to a point.
2:01:39
Speaker 13: You know.
2:01:39
Speaker 9: That's why that's currently the current structure, is why your
2:01:42
Speaker 9: mailbox is full of credit card applications every single day,
2:01:45
Speaker 9: every other day from the exact same company, because they're
2:01:48
Speaker 9: simply looking for people to take out more debt and
2:01:50
Speaker 9: they're just hoping that you go one day, one minute
2:01:52
Speaker 9: beyond that zero percent balance transfer period, because that's when
2:01:56
Speaker 9: you start to pay that twenty seven to twenty eight
2:01:58
Speaker 9: percent all the way back to day one. So you know,
2:02:00
Speaker 9: the rest of us who are on top of things
2:02:03
Speaker 9: are benefiting from the fact that credit card companies are
2:02:05
Speaker 9: making money off of people who just aren't as on
2:02:08
Speaker 9: top and are letting those things get out of control.
2:02:10
Speaker 9: So on one go, I go both ways with it.
2:02:12
Speaker 9: I mean, it's wonderful to have these rewards, and it's
2:02:14
Speaker 9: great to play the credit card game, and I do
2:02:16
Speaker 9: it myself. I don't pay any interest. But at the
2:02:18
Speaker 9: same time, I know that I'm not the one that
2:02:20
Speaker 9: they're making a ton of money off of. It's the
2:02:22
Speaker 9: people who forget and the people who just rely on
2:02:24
Speaker 9: that to pay their bills. And that's societally, that is
2:02:27
Speaker 9: not a great thing. That's not going to lead us
2:02:29
Speaker 9: to a great conclusion. But at the same time, it's
2:02:31
Speaker 9: all about supplying demand. If the demand is, yes, sure,
2:02:34
Speaker 9: I want to have a bunch of debt and I'm
2:02:35
Speaker 9: willing to blindly pay thirty percent, then so be it.
2:02:38
Speaker 9: That's kind of the situation that we're currently in. As
2:02:41
Speaker 9: to why Trump is pushing this now, my best guess
2:02:44
Speaker 9: is it's a way to get the attention of a
2:02:45
Speaker 9: lot of people who who would have painted him a
2:02:48
Speaker 9: certain way. You're right, this is you know, maybe he's
2:02:51
Speaker 9: dipping into a crowd that he hasn't been able to
2:02:52
Speaker 9: reach before.
2:02:53
Speaker 1: Populist. Well, the other thing, the other component of this
2:02:57
Speaker 1: is if you cap the interest rate that the credit
2:03:00
Speaker 1: card companies can charge, the likelihood that those least likely
2:03:03
Speaker 1: to obtain credit will no longer be able to obtain
2:03:06
Speaker 1: credit increases dramatically. So to the extent he's trying to help,
2:03:10
Speaker 1: you know, folks that might need credit, he's not doing
2:03:12
Speaker 1: them any service if that actually, if this actually comes
2:03:14
Speaker 1: to fruition, right.
2:03:15
Speaker 9: Right, But that's not the headline. He's after the headline. No, No, well,
2:03:19
Speaker 9: come on, Brian, I know that we're not worried about
2:03:22
Speaker 9: what happens six months a year later. That's that's unimportant
2:03:25
Speaker 9: at the time. And besides, then he can change the
2:03:26
Speaker 9: rules and then make the headline again. So but no,
2:03:29
Speaker 9: you're exactly right if we're going to make it, if
2:03:30
Speaker 9: we're going to restrict the ability for these let mean,
2:03:33
Speaker 9: let's face it, Brian, we are the United States of
2:03:34
Speaker 9: profit margin. That's it, that's all we care about. So
2:03:37
Speaker 9: if we're going to restrict the ability for credit card
2:03:38
Speaker 9: companies to make profit, they're going to restrict the expenses
2:03:41
Speaker 9: they have to lay out. That means goodbye rewards programs,
2:03:43
Speaker 9: goodbye to a lot of things that a lot of
2:03:45
Speaker 9: people benefit from. And those were already on the chopping
2:03:47
Speaker 9: block anyway for a lot of reasons.
2:03:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough, And it seems to be the more
2:03:50
Speaker 1: opportunities for credit from different sources. That's competition among the
2:03:55
Speaker 1: credit companies, which would necessarily suggest that they can make
2:03:58
Speaker 1: the choice to lower the ins in order to get
2:04:00
Speaker 1: more people on their card as opposed to somebody else's.
2:04:03
Speaker 9: Oh sure, but there's no demand for that because you know,
2:04:06
Speaker 9: if you're somebody who really you know, if you're really
2:04:09
Speaker 9: really paying attention, then you're not going to care that
2:04:11
Speaker 9: this one's only going to charge me up to twenty percent.
2:04:13
Speaker 9: You're not gonna touch that one either. You're gonna find
2:04:15
Speaker 9: a different way too, if you're willing to do the research.
2:04:17
Speaker 9: These things are not hard to avoid, but they're banking
2:04:20
Speaker 9: on the fact that no pun intended that that people
2:04:23
Speaker 9: are paid don't pay attention, and unfortunately, in a lot
2:04:25
Speaker 9: of cases, that's exactly what happens.
2:04:27
Speaker 1: All right, Well, I got to use this as an
2:04:29
Speaker 1: opportunity to complain about how your credit score is calculated.
2:04:32
Speaker 1: You know, I at one point had a perfect credit
2:04:36
Speaker 1: credit score, and I'm not bragging about this, I'm just
2:04:38
Speaker 1: using it as illustration and event my frustrations. The only
2:04:41
Speaker 1: reason it isn't is because I don't have enough credit
2:04:45
Speaker 1: cards open. That pisses me off, Brian James. I don't
2:04:48
Speaker 1: need more credit. I got enough with what I have.
2:04:50
Speaker 1: And yet if I'm looking at a credit score go
2:04:52
Speaker 1: out and get more credit. That's screwed up, man.
2:04:55
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is.
2:04:56
Speaker 9: It is, and it focuses on the wrong things.
2:04:59
Speaker 4: Right.
2:04:59
Speaker 9: So you here's what's important with this. It's your payment history.
2:05:03
Speaker 9: This is for the fight O model. This is the
2:05:05
Speaker 9: most widely used one. There's a lot of different models
2:05:07
Speaker 9: out there. Your payment history. Don't scri up your payments.
2:05:09
Speaker 9: That's about thirty five percent of it. About thirty percent,
2:05:12
Speaker 9: so close to a third. And this is what you're
2:05:14
Speaker 9: talking about, Brian Thomas, is the amounts owed versus your
2:05:17
Speaker 9: credit utilization. So what you might notice is that and
2:05:20
Speaker 9: I saw this. We bought a so early in COVID.
2:05:23
Speaker 9: We were going to take the family trip, our Griswold
2:05:26
Speaker 9: family European vacation. COVID killed it. That turned into a
2:05:29
Speaker 9: hot tub. Opened a credit card with Watson's because they
2:05:32
Speaker 9: had a zero percent deal going on. My credit score
2:05:34
Speaker 9: went through the roof because I had more that my
2:05:37
Speaker 9: ceiling went up. I took out actual debt, I took
2:05:39
Speaker 9: the draw on it, we paid the nothing percent, and
2:05:42
Speaker 9: my credit score went up because of it. So yeah,
2:05:44
Speaker 9: that what you're talking about about a third of your
2:05:46
Speaker 9: score is related to how much of your credit you use,
2:05:49
Speaker 9: Meaning you have to have credit, but then don't use
2:05:51
Speaker 9: too much of it, so you can have the same
2:05:53
Speaker 9: amount of debt. But if you if you increase that
2:05:55
Speaker 9: limit by opening another card, your credit score, believe it
2:05:58
Speaker 9: or not, it's probably gonna go up.
2:05:59
Speaker 1: Well, they understand that I pay my bills on time,
2:06:03
Speaker 1: I never carry a balance forward, so I've got the
2:06:05
Speaker 1: same amount of credit, and I will say I think
2:06:07
Speaker 1: it's adequate. Yeah, yeah, even paid off. I mean what what?
2:06:12
Speaker 1: Why am I a bad guy for that? I just
2:06:15
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. This just screams injustice. So what you should do?
2:06:19
Speaker 9: Go out and open another credit card. It'll bounce the
2:06:20
Speaker 9: other way. Play the game.
2:06:21
Speaker 1: I'm not playing the game, Ryan James. I'm not playing
2:06:24
Speaker 1: that game. Besides, I've taken your advice and device of
2:06:27
Speaker 1: so many other people who are prudent in matters financial
2:06:30
Speaker 1: and frozen my credit limits or my credit with TransUnion
2:06:35
Speaker 1: and Experience and all that so no one can open
2:06:37
Speaker 1: credit in my name.
2:06:38
Speaker 9: Yeah, including you.
2:06:39
Speaker 1: That's right, including me.
2:06:40
Speaker 4: Yeah.
2:06:40
Speaker 9: These aren't bad things. Those are good things. Here's the
2:06:42
Speaker 9: biggest thing I would say, go through. Clean up the
2:06:45
Speaker 9: old credit cards from the stores you never use or
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Speaker 9: and those you can close. Don't even if you don't
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Speaker 9: use it anymore, though, don't.
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Speaker 12: Don't.
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Speaker 9: Don't close your your oldest credit line. Put something on it,
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Speaker 9: put the ten dollars streaming account on it, and let
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Speaker 9: it pay itself automatically. That is a big chunk of
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Speaker 9: your gore.
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Speaker 4: Two.
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Speaker 9: But also, you know, just make sure you've got enough
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Speaker 9: credit access ability out there, and then that'll keep your
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Speaker 9: scoring a good place.
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Speaker 1: Fair enough, and very briefly, since we're out of time,
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Speaker 1: I just got to ask you. This Donald Trump decree
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Speaker 1: or populist gesture again seems inconsistent with free markets. But
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Speaker 1: telling like the black Rocks of the world that they
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Speaker 1: can't hoover up houses and tournamental rental units. That isn't
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Speaker 1: going to solve the housing problem by stopping that from happening,
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Speaker 1: is it?
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Speaker 9: Well, I mean, I think what he's trying to do
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Speaker 9: is reduce to man. And again this could also just
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Speaker 9: be headline generating. He's not pushing it that hard. He
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Speaker 9: made a few comments about it, and there was an
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Speaker 9: executive order out there, but I haven't heard that any
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Speaker 9: of these major financing companies are going under because of it.
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Speaker 9: There was restricting activities to it to enable large institutional
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Speaker 9: investors from purchasing single family homes framed as prioritizing families,
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Speaker 9: but not Wall Street. So we'll see if this really
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Speaker 9: truly has an impact. But I have a feeling right
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Speaker 9: now it's just window dressing.
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Speaker 1: Brian James, thank you all with Financial, your employer for
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Speaker 1: lounning out every Monday. I appreciate the segment, the opportunity
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Speaker 1: to speak with you about matters money. We'll do it
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Speaker 1: again next Monday, and good luck shovel that driveway hopefully
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Speaker 1: you don't have to do it again for a while.
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Speaker 1: And stay warm, Brian James.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm gonna head out and get that final three
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Speaker 9: inches off the driveway. Stay warm as well.
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Speaker 1: Smitheman event from this morning planting the seeds of hate,
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Speaker 1: which of course relates to the Minneapolis shooting over the weekend.
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Speaker 1: Doesn't look good for ICE on that one. But you know,
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Speaker 1: all this springs from this faux outrage. I mean, the
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Speaker 1: more I contemplate this, especially given the fairly recent history
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Speaker 1: in our country, the more I realize this is just
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Speaker 1: all a bunch of nonsense designed to undermine the United States.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I got a friend of mine who is
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Speaker 1: in SIOP military SIOP, and he has analyzed this in
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Speaker 1: depth many many times, and he's got some great observation.
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Speaker 1: This isn't spontaneous outrage. It's command and control. They've got
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Speaker 1: all these you know, elements in place signal groups that
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Speaker 1: have one thousand member caps per zone with dedicated people
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Speaker 1: like mobile chasers. They're assigned activity plate checkers, logging vehicle
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Speaker 1: data into shared data databases, dispatch nodes, vectoring assets, daily
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Speaker 1: chat rotations. It's a well oiled machine and then automatic
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Speaker 1: with rules and instructions on when to delete communications among
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Speaker 1: the groups so the Feds can't gather evidence in the
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Speaker 1: aftermath to the extent they find criminal activity involving this.
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Speaker 1: It's one of his agent kind of guys that one
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Speaker 1: of the most sobering part is domestic. It's funded, trained
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Speaker 1: by some body, he directed by people who live in
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Speaker 1: the same country they're trying to paralyze law enforcement in
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Speaker 1: When your own citizens build and operate this level of
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Speaker 1: parallel intelligence and rapid response network against federal officers, complete
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Speaker 1: with dosing, vehicle pursuits, and harassment that's already turned lethal,
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Speaker 1: you're no longer dealing with civil disobedience. You're facing a
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Speaker 1: distributed resistance that's learned the lessons of successful insurgencies. Stay
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Speaker 1: below the kinetic threshold most of the time. Force overreaction
2:10:27
Speaker 1: when possible. Maintain popular support through narrative, especially in a
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Speaker 1: narrative that is supported by the mainstream media that are
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Speaker 1: a bunch of leftists and never present a single center
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Speaker 1: of gravity. Keep people back on their heels, which maybe
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Speaker 1: leads to my point, what in the hell is some
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Speaker 1: people protesting ice? Let us turn back the most recent
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Speaker 1: history pages. Here, we'll go back to August twenty nineth,
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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. Donald Trump not yet been elected. He's on
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Speaker 1: the campaign trail. Barack Obama's still in office. What was
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Speaker 1: he doing. He was announcing his strategy. He was trying
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Speaker 1: to get voters. Tonald Trump was in. One of the
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Speaker 1: things he wanted to talk about was immigration, and back
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Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, he said, on day one, I'm going
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Speaker 1: to begin swiftly removing criminal, illegal immigrants from this country. Huh.
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Speaker 1: At that point in time, on the twenty ninth and August,
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Speaker 1: he did not give any specifics about the immigration policy,
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Speaker 1: but it unfolded and it's exactly like what he's doing now.
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Speaker 1: Plans to remove the undocumented immigrants who have committed crimes,
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Speaker 1: which lo and behold. The reporting by ABC News is
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Speaker 1: where I'm reading this. So to the stent you think
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Speaker 1: this is something I pulled off of some right wing
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Speaker 1: conservative sites, you got it wrong. It's ABC. Trump's plan
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Speaker 1: to remove the undocumented immigrants who have committed crimes is
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Speaker 1: similar to what President Obama declared in twenty fourteen. Hey,
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Speaker 1: let's look at the numbers. President Obama has often been
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Speaker 1: referred to by immigration groups as the deporter in chief.
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Speaker 1: That's immigration groups who want immigrations, the immigrants to come
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Speaker 1: into our country. They weren't real happy with Barack Obama
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Speaker 1: those groups. Between twenty nine and twenty fifteen, Obama removed
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Speaker 1: more than two point five million people through immigration orders.
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Speaker 1: That number does not include those who self deported or
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Speaker 1: turned away and or returned to their home country at
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Speaker 1: the border by US Customs and Border Protection. It also
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Speaker 1: doesn't include the calendar year numbers before the November election.
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Speaker 1: You know, remember Trump wasn't sworn in until January twentieth
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Speaker 1: of twenty seventeen, so Obama had one more full year
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Speaker 1: of deportations. And I've read numbers as high as four
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Speaker 1: million out of the Obama administration, accordinill government data. The
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Speaker 1: again ABC reporting of government data says the Obama administration
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Speaker 1: deported more people than any other president's administration in history.
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Speaker 1: And listen to this. In fact, the Obama administration has
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Speaker 1: deported more than the sum of all the presidents of
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Speaker 1: the twentieth century. They say, Hey, George W. Bush only
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Speaker 1: deported two million during his time in office, So bully
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Speaker 1: for Barack Obama making good on his campaign pledge making
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Speaker 1: good on his promise in twenty fourteen to kick the
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Speaker 1: hell out of our country the criminal illegal immigrants. And
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Speaker 1: he made good on that. So wherever the protesters and
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Speaker 1: you know, I mentioned that figured to Christopher Smithing or
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Speaker 1: in the morning and he recalled it. Yeah, people got
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Speaker 1: killed the same thing like that guy on Saturday. Huh
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Speaker 1: where were they then? Something terrible as afoot in this country,
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Speaker 1: my friends, I hope we all get wise to it.
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Speaker 1: if you got a comment, maybe you want to say
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Speaker 1: something about immigration or something like that. Five one three,
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Speaker 1: to stay off them at all possible. Again, that level
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Speaker 1: three most snow emergency means you're not allowed, I guess,
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Speaker 1: lawfully to even be out there unless you're on an
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Speaker 1: emergency or not. But they're gonna have to pull you
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Speaker 1: over to find that out, and it's unlikely they will that.
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Speaker 1: According to Ken Cober, FOP president, who was on the
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Speaker 1: show earlier this morning, it was also please please begging
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Speaker 1: you to stay off the roads if possible. Yeah, you know,
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Speaker 1: I continue with Obama. I read his comments about the
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Speaker 1: shooting over the weekend, yesterd or just this morning, and
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Speaker 1: it's just it's so batcrap insane, particularly given the background
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Speaker 1: it just gave you, which is Obama deported everybody and
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Speaker 1: there were no violent protests in the streets. Eric suggests
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Speaker 1: we're in the middle of the beginning of a total insurrection.
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Speaker 1: I hope not. He said every American should support and
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Speaker 1: draw inspiration from the wave of peaceful protests in Minneapolis.
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Speaker 1: Yet one more politician of note kind of saying the
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Speaker 1: protests are the right thing to do, or it's suggesting
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Speaker 1: perhaps interference, because those who have been watching the protests
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Speaker 1: on the street recognize that there is a hell of
2:15:26
Speaker 1: a lot of interference with ICE. It's not protest, they're interfering.
2:15:33
Speaker 1: I support the right to protest like everybody else. I
2:15:35
Speaker 1: appreciate the First Amendment. Hey, free assembly, free speech owners
2:15:38
Speaker 1: that free exercises is first. But yeah, and I got
2:15:43
Speaker 1: no problem with you filming somebody. Matter of fact, I've
2:15:46
Speaker 1: been saying I'm glad the budget if it ever gets passed,
2:15:48
Speaker 1: which right now it doesn't look like it's going to
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Speaker 1: get passed because oh, evil Ice, and now they're gonna
2:15:52
Speaker 1: end up shutting shutting down the federal government in the
2:15:55
Speaker 1: name of defunding ICE. I guess the defund the police
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Speaker 1: is just mutated into defunding ICE. Well, it's something to protest,
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Speaker 1: isn't it? Because evil Orange man is in office, said
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Speaker 1: the killing of Alex Pretty is heartbreaking tragedy. It should
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Speaker 1: also be a wake up call to every American, regardless
2:16:15
Speaker 1: of party, that many of our core values as a
2:16:19
Speaker 1: nation are increasingly under assault. Well, when he was president,
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Speaker 1: it was a core value to kick the hell out
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Speaker 1: of our country criminal illegal immigrants gassed him back in
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Speaker 1: twenty fifteen twenty sixteen. When he was doing it, do
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Speaker 1: you think he would embrace the idea that that's a
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Speaker 1: core value. Of course, protecting the American public from evil
2:16:37
Speaker 1: illegal immigrants who are demonstrably dangerous is a great thing.
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Speaker 1: It's good for America. I'm trying to protect the American citizens.
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Speaker 1: Fast forward to twenty twenty six, he said federal law
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Speaker 1: enforcement and immigration agents have a tough job, but Americans
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Speaker 1: expect them to carry out their duties in a lawful,
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Speaker 1: accountable way. True. I don't think anybody is suggesting anything
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Speaker 1: to the contrary, and to work with, rather than against,
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Speaker 1: state and local officials to ensure public safety. Who's that
2:17:07
Speaker 1: comment directed at the people interfere with ICE? All I
2:17:12
Speaker 1: know is the governor, the mayor in Minneapolis and the
2:17:14
Speaker 1: governor of Minnesota have been directing people, instructing people to
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Speaker 1: get the hell out in the streets and protest, and
2:17:19
Speaker 1: actually egging them on to engage in violence. That's state
2:17:25
Speaker 1: and local officials who aren't officials who are not cooperating
2:17:28
Speaker 1: with their federal counterparts. Barack Obama doesn't speak to that anyway.
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Speaker 1: For weeks now, people across this country have been rightly
2:17:41
Speaker 1: outraged by the spectacle of masked ICE recruits and other
2:17:44
Speaker 1: federal agents acting with impunity and engaging in tactics that
2:17:47
Speaker 1: seem designed to intimidate, harass, provoke, and endanger the residents
2:17:51
Speaker 1: of major American cities. Yeah, and all the protesters on
2:17:54
Speaker 1: the streets engaging literally in tactics that they are designed
2:17:57
Speaker 1: to intimidate, harass, and provoke the ice agent, putting them
2:18:00
Speaker 1: in a perilous position having to go out and do
2:18:02
Speaker 1: their job enforcing federal law and going after the evilist
2:18:06
Speaker 1: of evil once an agenda point for Obama, while surrounded
2:18:10
Speaker 1: by people screaming them, egging them on, throwing things at them,
2:18:14
Speaker 1: blowing whistles in their face, standing in front of their vehicles. Yeah,
2:18:17
Speaker 1: that creates a tense environment, and it might cause one
2:18:19
Speaker 1: of them to do something stupid, like maybe recklessly use
2:18:24
Speaker 1: deadly force. Let's see what Jones got this morning. Joe,
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Speaker 1: thank you for Joan, thank you for calling it. Welcome
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Speaker 1: to the Morning Show.
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Speaker 7: Hi Brian and your other mother.
2:18:32
Speaker 1: Oh hey Joan, how are you mom? Mom, don't get
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Speaker 1: jealous out there, I jokingly refer to Jones. She goes
2:18:38
Speaker 1: to listener lunch all the time, and she reminds me
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Speaker 1: a lot of you, Mom. But she's not my real mom.
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Speaker 1: She's my secondary mom. Go ahead, Joan, I'm a yeah,
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Speaker 1: there you go.
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Speaker 7: But anyway, I was just going to comment on that
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Speaker 7: credit score through Oh yeah, go ahead. I've got to
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Speaker 7: notice that my credit drop and I thought, what the heck?
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Speaker 6: You know?
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Speaker 11: So I go in this.
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Speaker 7: Asperien or whatever however it's called, because my credit's frozen.
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Speaker 7: I have it frozen. So I go in and it
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Speaker 7: went down three points to eight oh five because I
2:19:15
Speaker 7: don't use my caal's credit card. Enough, well, I use
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Speaker 7: my call's credit card. If I want to go shopping
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Speaker 7: for something.
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Speaker 1: That coals I know, probably not.
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Speaker 7: I'm glad it was explained this morning as to why
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Speaker 7: my credits of course dropped so much.
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Speaker 12: You know, that's unbelievable.
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Speaker 1: I think we can all collectively agree, regardless of political
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Speaker 1: affiliation or stripe, the credit score sucks and the criteria
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Speaker 1: that make it up are well. Barber Streiss said, I'll
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Speaker 1: put it loosely like that. Love you, Joan, Thank you
2:19:47
Speaker 1: very much forgiving me a call this morning. Folks will
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Speaker 1: be have a